From ke4al at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 02:11:56 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 02:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Summer Rover Announcement References: <1722380252.927788.1527819116529.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1722380252.927788.1527819116529@mail.yahoo.com> As part of my plans to activate 43 grids this Summer, I will be operating from EN37 26-31 July, holiday style. Plan is to introduce father-in-law, George KE0GQX, to satellites and roving.? Besides EN37, we will make a run up to EN38, and then a two day excursion to activate EN47, EN48, EN57, and EN58. I will post a schedule on AMSAT-BB as we get closer. In addition, daily updates will be posted to my Twitter account (viewable online for those without a twitter account at https://twitter.com/KE4ALabama).? All QSOs will be uploaded to LOTW upon my return, with my call sign KE4AL (no /P, /R, /5, etc.).? LOTW uploads already include the grid I worked from, so there's not need for any additional suffix.? For those who prefer a QSL card, my mailing address is good on QRZ.com.? No postage required, but please include a self-addressed envelope to ensure I do not mess up your address. (For those keeping count, this is only 6 of the 43 Summer Grids.? Announcement of other trips will be coming out shortly.) 73. Robert | KE4AL From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Fri Jun 1 13:15:22 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 21:15:22 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon Message-ID: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> Hello all, I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) received some decent signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 MHz). I had some good passes for Yubileiny RS-30 in the last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. So, questions: 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon active 435.215 or 435.315? 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 recently. On the web I can't find any recent observations. Thank you. Hans BX2ABT From aardvark at saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com Fri Jun 1 13:42:17 2018 From: aardvark at saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com (Hugh Brown) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 06:42:17 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon In-Reply-To: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <20180601134217.GA25272@zombie.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) received some decent > signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 MHz). I had some good passes for Yubileiny > RS-30 in the last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. So, > questions: > > 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? > > 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon active 435.215 or > 435.315? > > 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. > > I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 recently. On the web I > can't find any recent observations. Thank you. Hi Hans -- one place to look is the SatNOGS project (https://satnogs.org). If you haven't come across it before, it's an open-source network of satellite ground stations. There are stations around the world, and a large database of the observations they've taken. Just to run through how I tracked down observations for RS-30: - I went to https://db.satnogs.org and searched for "RS-30" and got to this page: https://db.satnogs.org/satellite/32953/ - I clicked the link to "SatNOGS Network Observati}ons": https://db.satnogs.org/satellite/32953/ - That shows a lot of failed observations (in red), so I clicked on the red "X" button underneath "Status" to filter them out. (I mention this because it seems a little counter-intuitive to me.) - That left this list of observations marked "Good": https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=1&good=1&bad=0&unvetted=1&failed=1&norad=32953&observer=&station= - For each of those, you can visit the individual observation page and see the waterfall, and listen to the original recordings. There's one from March and one from April. Now, about those observations...looking at the waterfall, I don't see any sign of CW in them. Observations are marked good or bad by the person who scheduled them, and occasionally mistakes are made. However, you may want to listen to the audio -- I have had observations where CW was faintly audible, even if it didn't show up in the waterfall. As for whether it's alive -- doesn't look good so far :-( but I'll let folks who know more give a more definitive answer. Hope that helps! 73, Hugh -- Hugh Brown - VA7UNX http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com From godetj at wanadoo.fr Fri Jun 1 14:10:10 2018 From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:10:10 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon In-Reply-To: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Hi, Hans, The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was on november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and the CW beacon was on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215 MHz was used by the digital telemetry downlink (with the russian Doka-B ground stations). But anyway, I listen from time to time to the frequencies of the missing birds, just in case... My russian favorite was Mozhyets-4 RS-22. :-) and my favorite chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, HO-68)my favorite, which is still possible to hear from time to time when solar panels are under the sun (like AO-7). Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW telemetry on 70 cm. On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) received some decent > signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 MHz). I had some good passes for > Yubileiny RS-30 in the last couple of days, but I didn't observe > anything. So, questions: > > 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? > > 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon active 435.215 > or 435.315? > > 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. > > I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 recently. On the web > I can't find any recent observations. Thank you. > > > Hans > > BX2ABT > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 14:28:49 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a no-brainer:? if I hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself being transponded, then clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate.? However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for reporting the uplink as active? The past two days, I've received continuous streams of non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two passes, but despite manually sending my beacons many times on each pass, I don't get digipeated (at least no iGate seems to be picking up the traffic) and I don't receive any APRS packets from anyone else. ? My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in the same configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm working FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past.?I'm just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having a grand ol' time on the BBS.? I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as anything but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more passes later today.? 73, Ryan AI6DO From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Fri Jun 1 14:39:00 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 22:39:00 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon In-Reply-To: References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <9adc0cd2-016c-f911-7e8a-f2991c1826e3@msa.hinet.net> Hello Hugh and Jean-Pierre, Thanks for pointing out SatNOGS to me. I'm new to sats and didn't realize that SatNOGS had this capability. I'll check it out. So it seems RS-30 is dead. I checked the SatNOGS recordings, but I couldn't detect any CW. A pity, 'cause back in 2009 it was one of the first sat signals I received on my HT with a simple antenna. I asked this question before on this list, but what other sats do have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? Any suggestions are welcome. Cheers. Hans BX2ABT On 06/01/2018 10:10 PM, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: > ? Hi, Hans, > > ? The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was on > november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and the CW > beacon was on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215 MHz was used by > the digital telemetry downlink (with the russian Doka-B ground > stations). But anyway, I listen from time to time to the frequencies > of the missing birds, just in case... My russian favorite was > Mozhyets-4 RS-22.? :-) and my favorite chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, > HO-68)my favorite, which is still possible to hear from time to time > when solar panels are under the sun (like AO-7). > > ? Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW telemetry on > 70 cm. > > > > On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) received some >> decent signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 MHz). I had some good passes >> for Yubileiny RS-30 in the last couple of days, but I didn't observe >> anything. So, questions: >> >> 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? >> >> 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon active >> 435.215 or 435.315? >> >> 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. >> >> I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 recently. On the >> web I can't find any recent observations. Thank you. >> >> >> Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 15:10:25 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:10:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ryan, the PBBS on FS-3 is working great. You?re right, it?s hard to see if it?s working on APRS?though working full duplex you should copy yourself right? I checked my log files and confirm that the digipeater is ON. Also, I looked at the last couple KISS log files and can?t see your call. Double check things is my suggestion. ?? I suggest you report as uplink and downlink active, unless you are positive that uplinks aren?t working; recently they have been from my QTH. 73, Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:47 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite > Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a no-brainer: if I > hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself being transponded, then > clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate. > > However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for reporting the > uplink as active? The past two days, I've received continuous streams of > non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two passes, but despite manually > sending my beacons many times on each pass, I don't get digipeated (at > least no iGate seems to be picking up the traffic) and I don't receive any > APRS packets from anyone else. > My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent > tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in the same > configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm working > FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past. I'm > just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having a grand ol' > time on the BBS. > > I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? > I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as anything > but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more passes later today. > > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From royldean at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 15:13:31 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:13:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 Message-ID: Ryan, When I cannot get digipeated on FS-3, and see no evidence of APRS digipeats from other ground stations, I also put "downlink only". So at least you are not alone. --Roy K3RLD > I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? > I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as anything > but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more passes later today. From scott23192 at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 15:25:36 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:25:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon In-Reply-To: <9adc0cd2-016c-f911-7e8a-f2991c1826e3@msa.hinet.net> References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> <9adc0cd2-016c-f911-7e8a-f2991c1826e3@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: >>> what other sats do have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? One way to answer that would be to look at the following page and search for "CW". Then, check to see if the status shows "ACTIVE". http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535 73! -Scott, K4KDR ========================================== On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > Hello Hugh and Jean-Pierre, > > Thanks for pointing out SatNOGS to me. I'm new to sats and didn't realize > that SatNOGS had this capability. I'll check it out. > > So it seems RS-30 is dead. I checked the SatNOGS recordings, but I > couldn't detect any CW. A pity, 'cause back in 2009 it was one of the first > sat signals I received on my HT with a simple antenna. > > I asked this question before on this list, but what other sats do have > reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? Any suggestions are > welcome. Cheers. > > Hans > > BX2ABT > > > > On 06/01/2018 10:10 PM, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: > >> Hi, Hans, >> >> The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was on >> november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and the CW beacon was >> on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215 MHz was used by the digital >> telemetry downlink (with the russian Doka-B ground stations). But anyway, I >> listen from time to time to the frequencies of the missing birds, just in >> case... My russian favorite was Mozhyets-4 RS-22. :-) and my favorite >> chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, HO-68)my favorite, which is still possible to >> hear from time to time when solar panels are under the sun (like AO-7). >> >> Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW telemetry on 70 >> cm. >> >> >> >> On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) received some decent >>> signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 MHz). I had some good passes for >>> Yubileiny RS-30 in the last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. >>> So, questions: >>> >>> 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? >>> >>> 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon active 435.215 >>> or 435.315? >>> >>> 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. >>> >>> I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 recently. On the web >>> I can't find any recent observations. Thank you. >>> >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> BX2ABT >> >> From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jun 1 15:49:06 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 15:49:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ryan! I'm with you on how to report on the AMSAT status page. If I don't see my packets being digipeated when using my TH-D72 or TM-D710, I mark my reports as "Downlink Only". If I see my packets being digipeated, or I see other stations using the digipeater, I'll go with "Uplink and Downlink Active". As for the pass times, they gradually move earlier in the day. I have what should be some decent passes this afternoon, and I hope to work one or two of them from the Prescott Hamfest in north-central Arizona later with my TH-D72 & Elk - same setup I used last week, when I worked you via FalconSat-3. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite > Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a no-brainer: if I > hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself being transponded, then > clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate. > > However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for reporting the > uplink as active? The past two days, I've received continuous streams of > non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two passes, but despite manually > sending my beacons many times on each pass, I don't get digipeated (at > least no iGate seems to be picking up the traffic) and I don't receive any > APRS packets from anyone else. > My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent > tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in the same > configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm working > FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past. I'm > just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having a grand ol' > time on the BBS. > > I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? > I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as anything > but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more passes later today. > > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Fri Jun 1 15:51:13 2018 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:51:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for May 2018 Message-ID: <9B04FF1E3D7344A2B0DCE139245541EF@Ron8300PC> Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period May 1, 2018 through Jun 1, 2018. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL 01 May 2018 01 Jun 2018 KO4MA 1598 1627 KD8CAO 1240 1253 N8HM 1025 1054 N8RO 1040 1051 K4FEG 877 901 K6FW 703 743 N9IP 589 609 N6UK 551 568 K5ND 502 526 WD9EWK 430 441 KE4AL 317 379 NS3L 300 325 VE7CEW 292 304 AA9LC New 299 AA8CH 218 256 G0ABI 124 200 N3GS 130 198 AA4FL 164 181 KE8FZT 100 175 XE1SEW New 130 WU2M New 105 KB2YSI New 101 PU8MRS New 100 If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at @.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for May 1, 2018 and June May 1, 2018. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! EDITORIAL: Excuse the bandwidth. I took a little detour from chasing grids to try FT8 on 6 meters. What amazed me was the quickness of QSLs on LoTW, often finding the QSL awaiting when I uploaded my QSO. Why are the FT8-ers so fast compared with my experience on satellites. My guess is that FT8 QSOs are done with computer software with logging capability. But that can't be the entire reason. Most of our wonderful rovers are extremely fast getting their audio recording logs uploaded to LoTW. So motivation has to be part of the solution. Satellites can be worked without computer assistance, but Doppler control, pass prediction and logging make the activity more enjoyable for me. Some of the rovers should publish their procedure for logging to LoTW. Most logging programs will upload to LoTW. Even the TQSL program for LoTW handles hand-input parameters. And LoTW is the easiest way to apply for ARRL Awards. Perhaps my disappointment after working a needed grid and not getting an LoTW QSL can be relieved. 73, Ron W5RKN From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 15:52:36 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 15:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Mark.? I do not receive any visible notification of receiving my own packets on the TH-D72A despite operating full duplex. My understanding is that Patrick WD9EWK has previously reported this is a limitation of the TH-D72A that is not shared by the TH-D74A. I only go by the real-time readout on the home screen, the stored list of decoded APRS packets ("LIST"), and the stored list ("MSG") of received APRS messages.?I have not inspected log files that might be stored on the radio.? I sent my beacon several times during each of the 0030Z and 1420Z passes on Thu 5/31, at 5W through an Arrow on the first pass and an Elk on the second. ?I verified the APRS settings before and after each pass.??I was digipeated on three separate passes on Mon 5/28, and had QSOs over the weekend, with those same settings on the same radio with the same antennas and cables.? I'm hesitant to report the uplink as active unless the undecoded packets I receive are evidence that the uplink is active. On every pass I receive undecoded packets from PFS3-1 and PFS3-11, and occasionally PFS3-12. Does one or more of those SSIDs indicate that an operator had successfully uplinked to the satellite on that pass? I read the status packets description document and nothing stood out to me as being indicative of an uplink.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 8:10:38 AM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Hi Ryan, the PBBS on FS-3 is working great.? You?re right, it?s hard to see if it?s working on APRS?though working full duplex you should copy yourself right? ?? I checked my log files and confirm that the digipeater is ON.? Also, I looked at the last couple KISS log files and can?t see your call. Double check things is my suggestion. ?? I suggest you report as uplink and downlink active, unless you are positive that uplinks aren?t working; recently they have been from my QTH.? 73,Mark N8MH From mhz4464 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 16:17:12 2018 From: mhz4464 at yahoo.com (Fer) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: <64bb9938.cbb7.163b5ee3e0b.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com> <64bb9938.cbb7.163b5ee3e0b.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: <2100930606.1124760.1527869832909@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Wei many tanks for your mail and instruction.Now the live cd is running on my notebook, here just some anomaly. In proxy window I add my call anc coordinates, saved, succesfully updated orbit information and start the proxy but serve is not connected as well port 3 and 4 Front end dslwp rx rtl works but only BJ1SN? B0 and B1, no way to see BJ1SM A0 A1 as per screenshot? in the guide. Double clicking DEMOD_ON I have four windows instead eight. Please advice Thank you again and all the best for your interesting missionThanks Dimitri for your help Vy 73 de Fer IW1DTU On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 11:21:25 AM GMT, ??? wrote: Hi Fer, Thank you very much for your support! A user manual for the live cd can be found here: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/DSLWP_Live_CD_User_Manual_20180520.pdf Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions. 73! Wei? -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite TechnologyHarbin Institute of Technologymobile: +86-189-4501-5242e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-05-31 18:48:41, "Fer" wrote: Hello?WEI Mingchuan, congratulations for? your mission and many thanks for DSLW-B info. Can any gnuradio Guru write a short guide on how to set parameters on gnuradio Live CD?Please, not interested in how to download the .iso file but wich parameters set and in which way in gnuradio window when the Live Cd is up and running. Thanks in advance?73 de Fer IW1DTU On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 8:33:34 AM GMT, ??? wrote: Hi OMs, We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to 31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs should be used. Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, that's why UHF is not always on. Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt Updated version of Live CD: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing ? Best Regards and 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ? From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jun 1 16:27:07 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Russian Cubesats to deploy during Spacewalk References: <872947450.13537066.1527870427330.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <872947450.13537066.1527870427330@mail.yahoo.com> Russian CubeSats SiriusSat-1 (RS13S) and SiriusSat-2 (RS14S) to be deployed during a spacewalk in August https://amsat-uk.org/2018/06/01/russian-siriussat-cubesats-to-be-deployed-during-spacewalk/ A report from Friedrichshafen Ham Radio 2018 event indicates there is no launch date for Es'hail 2, but satellite and testing is complete https://www.facebook.com/amsatuk/posts/1796030043773370 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 17:06:52 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 17:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <504935680.1106394.1527872812273@mail.yahoo.com> I thought it was only me... I tried yesterday and was unable to get digipeated. Rob KA2CZU On Friday, June 1, 2018, 10:29:38 AM EDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a no-brainer:? if I hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself being transponded, then clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate.? However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for reporting the uplink as active? The past two days, I've received continuous streams of non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two passes, but despite manually sending my beacons many times on each pass, I don't get digipeated (at least no iGate seems to be picking up the traffic) and I don't receive any APRS packets from anyone else. ? My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in the same configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm working FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past.?I'm just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having a grand ol' time on the BBS.? I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as anything but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more passes later today.? 73, Ryan AI6DO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 17:28:23 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 17:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1751588969.7756913.1527874103243@mail.yahoo.com> >I sent my beacon several times during each of the 0030Z and 1420Z passes on Thu 5/31 ... Sorry, meant to write 2120Z (1420 PDT), not 1420Z.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 8:55:19 AM PDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: Hi, Mark.? I do not receive any visible notification of receiving my own packets on the TH-D72A despite operating full duplex. My understanding is that Patrick WD9EWK has previously reported this is a limitation of the TH-D72A that is not shared by the TH-D74A. I only go by the real-time readout on the home screen, the stored list of decoded APRS packets ("LIST"), and the stored list ("MSG") of received APRS messages.?I have not inspected log files that might be stored on the radio.? I sent my beacon several times during each of the 0030Z and 1420Z passes on Thu 5/31, at 5W through an Arrow on the first pass and an Elk on the second. ?I verified the APRS settings before and after each pass.??I was digipeated on three separate passes on Mon 5/28, and had QSOs over the weekend, with those same settings on the same radio with the same antennas and cables.? I'm hesitant to report the uplink as active unless the undecoded packets I receive are evidence that the uplink is active. On every pass I receive undecoded packets from PFS3-1 and PFS3-11, and occasionally PFS3-12. Does one or more of those SSIDs indicate that an operator had successfully uplinked to the satellite on that pass? I read the status packets description document and nothing stood out to me as being indicative of an uplink.? 73, Ryan AI6DO ? ? On Friday, June 1, 2018, 8:10:38 AM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote:? Hi Ryan, the PBBS on FS-3 is working great.? You?re right, it?s hard to see if it?s working on APRS?though working full duplex you should copy yourself right? ?? I checked my log files and confirm that the digipeater is ON.? Also, I looked at the last couple KISS log files and can?t see your call. Double check things is my suggestion. ?? I suggest you report as uplink and downlink active, unless you are positive that uplinks aren?t working; recently they have been from my QTH.? 73,Mark N8MH ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dibor at iname.com Fri Jun 1 17:54:39 2018 From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:54:39 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: <2100930606.1124760.1527869832909@mail.yahoo.com> References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com> <64bb9938.cbb7.163b5ee3e0b.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <2100930606.1124760.1527869832909@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Fer and All. Fer, U do not need A0 and A1 decoders anymore, them were for dslwp-a. I have also port 3 and 4 is not connected, I dont know why, maybe Wei can explain. Best Wishes. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Fer" To: "???" ; "dibor at iname.com" ; "AMSAT BB" Sent: 01.06.2018 19:17:12 Subject: Re: Re:Re: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 >Hi Wei > >many tanks for your mail and instruction. >Now the live cd is running on my notebook, here just some anomaly. > >In proxy window I add my call anc coordinates, saved, succesfully >updated orbit information and start the proxy but serve is not >connected as well port 3 and 4 > >Front end dslwp rx rtl works but only BJ1SN B0 and B1, no way to see >BJ1SM A0 A1 as per screenshot in the guide. > >Double clicking DEMOD_ON I have four windows instead eight. > >Please advice > >Thank you again and all the best for your interesting mission >Thanks Dimitri for your help > >Vy 73 de Fer IW1DTU > > >On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 11:21:25 AM GMT, ??? wrote: > > >Hi Fer, > >Thank you very much for your support! > >A user manual for the live cd can be found here: >https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/DSLWP_Live_CD_User_Manual_20180520.pdf > >Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions. > >73! > >Wei > > > > >-- >WEI Mingchuan > >Research Center of Satellite Technology >Harbin Institute of Technology >mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > >At 2018-05-31 18:48:41, "Fer" wrote: >>Hello WEI Mingchuan, >> >>congratulations for your mission and many thanks for DSLW-B info. >> >>Can any gnuradio Guru write a short guide on how to set parameters on >>gnuradio Live CD? >>Please, not interested in how to download the .iso file but wich >>parameters set and in which way in gnuradio window when the Live Cd is >>up and running. >> >>Thanks in advance >>73 de Fer IW1DTU >>On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 8:33:34 AM GMT, ??? wrote: >> >> >>Hi OMs, >> >> >>We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to >>31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. >> >> >>We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G >>on 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher >>priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding >>demod grcs should be used. >> >> >>Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. >> >> >>The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, >>that's why UHF is not always on. >> >> >> >>Tracking file updates can be found on: >>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or >>http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt >> >> >>Updated version of Live CD: >>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing >> >> >>Best Regards and 73! >> >> >>Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>WEI Mingchuan >> >> >>Research Center of Satellite Technology >>Harbin Institute of Technology >>mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >>e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>of AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 18:56:48 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:56:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > I do not receive any visible notification of receiving my own packets on > the TH-D72A despite operating full duplex. My understanding is that Patrick > WD9EWK has previously reported this is a limitation of the TH-D72A that is > not shared by the TH-D74A. > At the risk of introducing confusion based on my inexperience using FS-3, I will say that I do know when using the D72 with the ISS digipeater or with any standard simplex digipeater, when your packet is repeated you do get realtime visual and audio indication it was repeated. The radio makes a unique audio alert when it receives its own packets repeated back and the screen flashes "MY POSITION" above "via RS0ISS" or whatever the callsign of the digipeater is. This can be seen in my video below. The limitation I am familiar with is that your repeated/received packets do not then show up in the LIST, which can be confusing, as it was for me as seen in the below. video. I believe the D74 does allow you to view your repeated/received packets in its LIST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSzJ-PtH2M&feature=youtu.be&t=36 73, John Brier KG4AKV From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jun 1 19:29:23 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 19:29:23 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, Normally, working FalconSat-3 should be the same as any other orbiting digipeater, where you would see a "My Message" or "My Position" notification on your HT's screen when you are digipeated. FalconSat-3 sends down so much data, that it is possible your HT misses the digipeated packet, or it received it with a series of other packets so fast you miss the on-screen notification. That's why I find myself checking the listing of stations heard and message listings during a FalconSat-3 pass, in case I missed something. Working FalconSat-3's digipeater with a single D74 is basically a no-go, since its TNC can only work with one VFO. It can't be set to receive from one VFO and transmit from the other, something the D72, D7, and the Kenwood APRS mobiles can do. Even though I might not see many of the "My Message" or "My Position" notifications on the screen, I do fine working FalconSat-3 with my D72, and hope to try it later today and tomorrow afternoon. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK - Prescott, Arizona http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 6:56 PM, John Brier wrote: > > At the risk of introducing confusion based on my inexperience using FS-3, I > will say that I do know when using the D72 with the ISS digipeater or with > any standard simplex digipeater, when your packet is repeated you do get > realtime visual and audio indication it was repeated. The radio makes a > unique audio alert when it receives its own packets repeated back and the > screen flashes "MY POSITION" above "via RS0ISS" or whatever the callsign of > the digipeater is. This can be seen in my video below. The limitation I am > familiar with is that your repeated/received packets do not then show up in > the LIST, which can be confusing, as it was for me as seen in the below. > video. I believe the D74 does allow you to view your repeated/received > packets in its LIST. > From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 19:45:04 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 15:45:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi All, I guess this Is a difference between the general user and me as a command station :-) if I see a report that it?s downlink only, it triggers a bit of anxiety regarding the operation of the satellite. If I were to listen to AO-92, but was unable to hear myself when transmitting, should I report downlink only? Different, but similar. I guess my point is this, not hearing anything doesn?t mean it?s not working. A report of Downlink only to me, anyhow, implies something is wrong with the satellite. See the subtlety? Here?s another nuance, figure the status report is a satellite status report, not a users experience report. In the end, it doesn?t really matter :-) I?m glad to see the reports are being made for our satellites. It?s helpful, sometimes even when it?s not very precise. Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:17 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Hi Ryan! > > I'm with you on how to report on the AMSAT status page. If I > don't see my packets being digipeated when using my TH-D72 > or TM-D710, I mark my reports as "Downlink Only". If I see > my packets being digipeated, or I see other stations using > the digipeater, I'll go with "Uplink and Downlink Active". > > As for the pass times, they gradually move earlier in the > day. I have what should be some decent passes this > afternoon, and I hope to work one or two of them from the > Prescott Hamfest in north-central Arizona later with my > TH-D72 & Elk - same setup I used last week, when I worked > you via FalconSat-3. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite > > Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a no-brainer: if I > > hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself being transponded, > then > > clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate. > > > > However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for reporting the > > uplink as active? The past two days, I've received continuous streams of > > non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two passes, but despite manually > > sending my beacons many times on each pass, I don't get digipeated (at > > least no iGate seems to be picking up the traffic) and I don't receive > any > > APRS packets from anyone else. > > My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent > > tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in the > same > > configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm > working > > FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past. I'm > > just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having a grand > ol' > > time on the BBS. > > > > I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? > > I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as anything > > but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more passes later > today. > > > > > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 19:47:05 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 19:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1981044274.7803515.1527882425368@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, John.? I don't recall ever receiving that indication that I've received one of my own packets repeated by FS-3, even when I've been iGated or completed a QSO. However, I'm usually being bombarded by so many non-APRS packets in the downlink on nearly a continuous basis for almost the entire pass that I wouldn't be surprised if the D72's user interface or decoding processing just isn't able to keep up in real time.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 11:56:50 AM PDT, John Brier wrote: At the risk of introducing confusion based on my inexperience using FS-3, I will say that I do know when using the D72 with the ISS digipeater or with any standard simplex digipeater, when your packet is repeated you do get realtime visual and audio indication it was repeated. The radio makes a unique audio alert when it receives its own packets repeated back and the screen flashes "MY POSITION" above "via RS0ISS" or whatever the callsign of the digipeater is. This can be seen in my video below. The limitation I am familiar with is that your repeated/received packets do not then show up in the LIST, which can be confusing, as it was for me as seen in the below. video. I believe the D74 does allow you to view your repeated/received packets in its LIST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSzJ-PtH2M&feature=youtu.be&t=36 73, John Brier KG4AKV From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 20:14:45 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <1981044274.7803515.1527882425368@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <1981044274.7803515.1527882425368@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <438932048.1198022.1527884085495@mail.yahoo.com> one "should" see decoded Msgs in the "MSG" list on the D72A, however. Correct? Rob KA2CZU On Friday, June 1, 2018, 3:48:07 PM EDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: Hi, John.? I don't recall ever receiving that indication that I've received one of my own packets repeated by FS-3, even when I've been iGated or completed a QSO. However, I'm usually being bombarded by so many non-APRS packets in the downlink on nearly a continuous basis for almost the entire pass that I wouldn't be surprised if the D72's user interface or decoding processing just isn't able to keep up in real time.? 73, Ryan AI6DO ? ? On Friday, June 1, 2018, 11:56:50 AM PDT, John Brier wrote:? At the risk of introducing confusion based on my inexperience using FS-3, I will say that I do know when using the D72 with the ISS digipeater or with any standard simplex digipeater, when your packet is repeated you do get realtime visual and audio indication it was repeated. The radio makes a unique audio alert when it receives its own packets repeated back and the screen flashes "MY POSITION" above "via RS0ISS" or whatever the callsign of the digipeater is. This can be seen in my video below. The limitation I am familiar with is that your repeated/received packets do not then show up in the LIST, which can be confusing, as it was for me as seen in the below. video. I believe the D74 does allow you to view your repeated/received packets in its LIST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSzJ-PtH2M&feature=youtu.be&t=36 73, John Brier KG4AKV ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jun 1 20:28:41 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:28:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <438932048.1198022.1527884085495@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <1981044274.7803515.1527882425368@mail.yahoo.com> <438932048.1198022.1527884085495@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used to know the answer. But too old to remember. It might be that, even though the radio is full duplex, the TNC might be half duplex? And since the satellite turns around the packet INSTANTLY to the downlink, that the TNC is not ready to receive packets quick enough? This can be proved not true if anyone has ever seen their own downlink packet. BUT Wait, all it takes is anything else queued up on a busy downlink to cause the data to be queued up a bit and then you will see your own packet because every thing is waiting a few milliseconds. So Seeing or not-seeing your own packets may or may not prove anything about this theory. Back under my rock. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 4:15 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 one "should" see decoded Msgs in the "MSG" list on the D72A, however. Correct? Rob KA2CZU On Friday, June 1, 2018, 3:48:07 PM EDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: Hi, John. I don't recall ever receiving that indication that I've received one of my own packets repeated by FS-3, even when I've been iGated or completed a QSO. However, I'm usually being bombarded by so many non-APRS packets in the downlink on nearly a continuous basis for almost the entire pass that I wouldn't be surprised if the D72's user interface or decoding processing just isn't able to keep up in real time. 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 11:56:50 AM PDT, John Brier wrote: At the risk of introducing confusion based on my inexperience using FS-3, I will say that I do know when using the D72 with the ISS digipeater or with any standard simplex digipeater, when your packet is repeated you do get realtime visual and audio indication it was repeated. The radio makes a unique audio alert when it receives its own packets repeated back and the screen flashes "MY POSITION" above "via RS0ISS" or whatever the callsign of the digipeater is. This can be seen in my video below. The limitation I am familiar with is that your repeated/received packets do not then show up in the LIST, which can be confusing, as it was for me as seen in the below. video. I believe the D74 does allow you to view your repeated/received packets in its LIST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSzJ-PtH2M&feature=youtu.be&t=36 73, John Brier KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From devin at thecabal.org Fri Jun 1 20:17:24 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:17:24 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mark, Serious question from a newbie: Case 1: I hear no traffic from the bird, and nothing I send digipeats. How should we report it? Case 2: I hear other traffic from the bird, but nothing I send digipeats. How should we report it? In case 1, are we supposed to assume that since we can hear traffic from other users, the uplink and downlink are both active? In case 2, how do we distinguish between "something is wrong with the bird" and "something is wrong with how I'm trying to send?" -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email:?devin at thecabal.org web:?Devin on Earth cell:?+1 425.239.2575 -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Mark L. Hammond Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 12:45 PM To: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Cc: AMSAT Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 Hi All, I guess this Is a difference between the general user and me as a command station :-) if I see a report that it?s downlink only, it triggers a bit of anxiety regarding the operation of the satellite. If I were to listen to AO-92, but was unable to hear myself when transmitting, should I report downlink only? Different, but similar. I guess my point is this, not hearing anything doesn?t mean it?s not working. A report of Downlink only to me, anyhow, implies something is wrong with the satellite. See the subtlety? Here?s another nuance, figure the status report is a satellite status report, not a users experience report. In the end, it doesn?t really matter :-) I?m glad to see the reports are being made for our satellites. It?s helpful, sometimes even when it?s not very precise. Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:17 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Hi Ryan! > > I'm with you on how to report on the AMSAT status page. If I don't see > my packets being digipeated when using my TH-D72 or TM-D710, I mark my > reports as "Downlink Only". If I see my packets being digipeated, or I > see other stations using the digipeater, I'll go with "Uplink and > Downlink Active". > > As for the pass times, they gradually move earlier in the day. I have > what should be some decent passes this afternoon, and I hope to work > one or two of them from the Prescott Hamfest in north-central Arizona > later with my > TH-D72 & Elk - same setup I used last week, when I worked you via > FalconSat-3. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR > > Satellite Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a > > no-brainer: if I hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself > > being transponded, > then > > clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate. > > > > However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for > > reporting the uplink as active? The past two days, I've received > > continuous streams of non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two > > passes, but despite manually sending my beacons many times on each > > pass, I don't get digipeated (at least no iGate seems to be picking > > up the traffic) and I don't receive > any > > APRS packets from anyone else. > > My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent > > tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in > > the > same > > configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm > working > > FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past. > > I'm just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having > > a grand > ol' > > time on the BBS. > > > > I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that appropriate? > > I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as > > anything but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more > > passes later > today. > > > > > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 20:56:08 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <438932048.1198022.1527884085495@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <1981044274.7803515.1527882425368@mail.yahoo.com> <438932048.1198022.1527884085495@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <449893950.7840443.1527886568832@mail.yahoo.com> No, I see the messages that I sent. I don't think I'm seeing messages that I sent and then received back and decoded. The radio knows (and stores) what I sent even if it never receives it back. And I can't see the beacons that I sent.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 1:16:14 PM PDT, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB wrote: one "should" see decoded Msgs in the "MSG" list on the D72A, however. Correct? Rob KA2CZU ? ? On Friday, June 1, 2018, 3:48:07 PM EDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote:? ? Hi, John.? I don't recall ever receiving that indication that I've received one of my own packets repeated by FS-3, even when I've been iGated or completed a QSO. However, I'm usually being bombarded by so many non-APRS packets in the downlink on nearly a continuous basis for almost the entire pass that I wouldn't be surprised if the D72's user interface or decoding processing just isn't able to keep up in real time.? 73, Ryan AI6DO From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 21:04:56 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 21:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> The pass I just got on had a much more sedate downlink, with a roughly-estimated average of about one PFS3-1 or PFS3-11 undecoded packet about every 4 seconds or so over the course of the pass. Despite seeing a bunch of beacon and message traffic by WD9EWK and KB6LTY and completing a QSO with WD9EWK, I was able to get that My Message indication for the first time in quite a while, and see my beacons and messages get sent with no more than a second or two delay.? A huge change from the past couple of days, with no change in my configuration.? I can certainly report FS-3 was Blue for this pass. Thanks for the QSO, Patrick! It seemed like you got a steady stream of traffic on AO-91 just before, enough that I couldn't get through myself, which is my typical experience on the FM birds during daylight hours.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 12:31:01 PM PDT, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: John, Normally, working FalconSat-3 should be the same as any other orbiting digipeater, where you would see a "My Message" or "My Position" notification on your HT's screen when you are digipeated. FalconSat-3 sends down so much data, that it is possible your HT misses the digipeated packet, or it received it with a series of other packets so fast you miss the on-screen notification. That's why I find myself checking the listing of stations heard and message listings during a FalconSat-3 pass, in case I missed something. From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jun 1 21:12:55 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 21:12:55 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ryan, Thanks for the FalconSat-3 QSO a few minutes ago! I never saw the notifications for my packets being digipeated, but saw your messages, your position, and received the ACK from a message I sent you. I also exchanged messages with KB6LTY, although I never saw her position packets. With our activity through the digipeater, that was definitely "Uplink and Downlink Active". :-) 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > The pass I just got on had a much more sedate downlink, with a > roughly-estimated average of about one PFS3-1 or PFS3-11 undecoded packet > about every 4 seconds or so over the course of the pass. Despite seeing a > bunch of beacon and message traffic by WD9EWK and KB6LTY and completing a > QSO with WD9EWK, I was able to get that My Message indication for the first > time in quite a while, and see my beacons and messages get sent with no > more than a second or two delay. A huge change from the past couple of > days, with no change in my configuration. > > I can certainly report FS-3 was Blue for this pass. Thanks for the QSO, > Patrick! It seemed like you got a steady stream of traffic on AO-91 just > before, enough that I couldn't get through myself, which is my typical > experience on the FM birds during daylight hours. > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > On Friday, June 1, 2018, 12:31:01 PM PDT, Patrick STODDARD > (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > > John, > > Normally, working FalconSat-3 should be the same as any > other orbiting digipeater, where you would see a "My > Message" or "My Position" notification on your HT's screen > when you are digipeated. FalconSat-3 sends down so much > data, that it is possible your HT misses the digipeated > packet, or it received it with a series of other packets > so fast you miss the on-screen notification. That's why > I find myself checking the listing of stations heard and > message listings during a FalconSat-3 pass, in case I > missed something. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 21:15:09 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 17:15:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Devin, guess my advice is to use good judgment and logic :) I?m no expert on how we should report. Just making the point about the possible ambiguity in some reporting. Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 4:17 PM Devin L. Ganger wrote: > Mark, > > Serious question from a newbie: > > Case 1: I hear no traffic from the bird, and nothing I send digipeats. How > should we report it? > Case 2: I hear other traffic from the bird, but nothing I send digipeats. > How should we report it? > > In case 1, are we supposed to assume that since we can hear traffic from > other users, the uplink and downlink are both active? > > In case 2, how do we distinguish between "something is wrong with the > bird" and "something is wrong with how I'm trying to send?" > > -- > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) > email: devin at thecabal.org > web: Devin on Earth > cell: +1 425.239.2575 > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Mark L. Hammond > Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 12:45 PM > To: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net > Cc: AMSAT > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of > FS-3 > > Hi All, > > I guess this Is a difference between the general user and me as a command > station :-) if I see a report that it?s downlink only, it triggers a bit of > anxiety regarding the operation of the satellite. > > If I were to listen to AO-92, but was unable to hear myself when > transmitting, should I report downlink only? Different, but similar. > > I guess my point is this, not hearing anything doesn?t mean it?s not > working. A report of Downlink only to me, anyhow, implies something is > wrong with the satellite. See the subtlety? > > Here?s another nuance, figure the status report is a satellite status > report, not a users experience report. > > In the end, it doesn?t really matter :-) I?m glad to see the reports are > being made for our satellites. It?s helpful, sometimes even when it?s not > very precise. > > > Mark N8MH > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:17 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > > > Hi Ryan! > > > > I'm with you on how to report on the AMSAT status page. If I don't see > > my packets being digipeated when using my TH-D72 or TM-D710, I mark my > > reports as "Downlink Only". If I see my packets being digipeated, or I > > see other stations using the digipeater, I'll go with "Uplink and > > Downlink Active". > > > > As for the pass times, they gradually move earlier in the day. I have > > what should be some decent passes this afternoon, and I hope to work > > one or two of them from the Prescott Hamfest in north-central Arizona > > later with my > > TH-D72 & Elk - same setup I used last week, when I worked you via > > FalconSat-3. > > > > 73! > > > > > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > > > I've been reporting my observations on the AMSAT Live OSCAR > > > Satellite Status page. For the FM and linear satellites, it's a > > > no-brainer: if I hear live traffic on the bird, or if I hear myself > > > being transponded, > > then > > > clearly "Uplink and Downlink Active" is appropriate. > > > > > > However, for the packet satellites, what's the criteria for > > > reporting the uplink as active? The past two days, I've received > > > continuous streams of non-APRS packets from FalconSat-3 on two > > > passes, but despite manually sending my beacons many times on each > > > pass, I don't get digipeated (at least no iGate seems to be picking > > > up the traffic) and I don't receive > > any > > > APRS packets from anyone else. > > > My TH-D72A is properly configured per Patrick WD9EWK's excellent > > > tutorial, and I've made QSOs earlier in the week with the radio in > > > the > > same > > > configuration it's in now. The only difference seems to be that I'm > > working > > > FS-3 much earlier in the day, on a weekday, than I have in the past. > > > I'm just using a TH-D72A, so for all I know, a dozen ops are having > > > a grand > > ol' > > > time on the BBS. > > > > > > I've been reporting these passes as "Downlink Only." Is that > appropriate? > > > I seem to be the only one this week who reported FalconSat-3 as > > > anything but open for business. I'm planning to try one or more > > > passes later > > today. > > > > > > > > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 22:06:02 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 18:06:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great. Yes less PBBS means better Digi. I am convinced the attitude of FS-3 varies, and it matters. Elevation alone sometimes isn?t enough! Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:38 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: > The pass I just got on had a much more sedate downlink, with a > roughly-estimated average of about one PFS3-1 or PFS3-11 undecoded packet > about every 4 seconds or so over the course of the pass. Despite seeing a > bunch of beacon and message traffic by WD9EWK and KB6LTY and completing a > QSO with WD9EWK, I was able to get that My Message indication for the first > time in quite a while, and see my beacons and messages get sent with no > more than a second or two delay. A huge change from the past couple of > days, with no change in my configuration. > > I can certainly report FS-3 was Blue for this pass. Thanks for the QSO, > Patrick! It seemed like you got a steady stream of traffic on AO-91 just > before, enough that I couldn't get through myself, which is my typical > experience on the FM birds during daylight hours. > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > On Friday, June 1, 2018, 12:31:01 PM PDT, Patrick STODDARD > (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > > John, > > Normally, working FalconSat-3 should be the same as any > other orbiting digipeater, where you would see a "My > Message" or "My Position" notification on your HT's screen > when you are digipeated. FalconSat-3 sends down so much > data, that it is possible your HT misses the digipeated > packet, or it received it with a series of other packets > so fast you miss the on-screen notification. That's why > I find myself checking the listing of stations heard and > message listings during a FalconSat-3 pass, in case I > missed something. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jun 1 23:08:03 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 23:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> I'd agree that the attitude of the satellite affects link margin, given the geometry of the antennas in the satellite drawings I've seen.? This FS-3 pass I just tried must have had a lot more PBBS traffic, not quite as much as Wed or Thu, but much more than two hours ago, maybe one packet every 2 seconds or so. I wasn't iGated, despite sending my beacon several times manually. If the downlink is this full of PBBS packets, is that clear evidence that the uplink is active, since only a successful uplink to the PBBS would trigger the flood of packets?? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 3:06:13 PM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Great. Yes less PBBS means better Digi. ??I am convinced the attitude of FS-3 varies, and it matters. ? Elevation alone sometimes isn?t enough!? Mark N8MH? From k.alexander at rogers.com Fri Jun 1 23:54:44 2018 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 23:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] QSLs References: <1094515367.7890409.1527897284834.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1094515367.7890409.1527897284834@mail.yahoo.com> I have a small stack of QSL cards from people looking for verifications for grids I have roved to.? This is to let you know you're going to be waiting for a while.? I have a million things to do as I prepare to move the first week of July.? A lot of tasks are being pushed to the back burner. The computer I use create my QSLs on and print from is already taken apart and packed.? My printer is too large and heavy to move.? I have to try and sell it or scrap it.? Then I have to save up and buy a new printer when I get established in Thailand...not to mention convincing my new wife of the necessity!? It'll be several months before I'm back in the QSL card business. Anyone wishing to avoid these delays should consider signing up for Logbook of the World.? All the information for every satellite QSO I have ever made is already there.? It's free to sign up and takes, what...half an hour?? Upload the data for your QSOs with me and they will be verified in minutes. if you absolutely have to have paper QSLs then you'll be waiting while. If you're some kind of ARRL-hater and won't sign up for LoTW on principle then hooray for you.? Make yourself comfortable while you wait. Finally, I'll be activating many grids on my Grand Finale Rove coming up in a few weeks.? If you want a paper QSL from me then just e-mail me with the particulars and I'll send you one when I can.? This goes for QSLs for past contacts; please don't send me any more QSL cards.? I'm moving to Thailand with whatever I can fit in three suitcases (or less).? QSL cards, even my old SWL cards going back to 1966 will not be making the trip. Thanks and 73, KenVE3HLS From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 00:10:32 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:10:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sounds like good logic, Ryan! Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:28 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I'd agree that the attitude of the satellite affects link margin, given > the geometry of the antennas in the satellite drawings I've seen. > > This FS-3 pass I just tried must have had a lot more PBBS traffic, not > quite as much as Wed or Thu, but much more than two hours ago, maybe one > packet every 2 seconds or so. I wasn't iGated, despite sending my beacon > several times manually. If the downlink is this full of PBBS packets, is > that clear evidence that the uplink is active, since only a successful > uplink to the PBBS would trigger the flood of packets? > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > > On Friday, June 1, 2018, 3:06:13 PM PDT, Mark L. Hammond < > marklhammond at gmail.com> wrote: > > Great. Yes less PBBS means better Digi. I am convinced the attitude of > FS-3 varies, and it matters. Elevation alone sometimes isn?t enough! > Mark N8MH > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From ai6do at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 01:17:15 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 01:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2070269545.7892948.1527902235364@mail.yahoo.com> So, to be clear, you're saying that the flood of PFS3-1, -11, -12 packets is only initiated by a PBBS user's uplink, and is not autonomously initiated by the satellite based on time, location, insolation, or some other stimulus that is not communicated to the satellite via the 145.840 MHz uplink, correct? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 5:10:44 PM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Sounds like good logic, Ryan! Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:28 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: ?I'd agree that the attitude of the satellite affects link margin, given the geometry of the antennas in the satellite drawings I've seen.? This FS-3 pass I just tried must have had a lot more PBBS traffic, not quite as much as Wed or Thu, but much more than two hours ago, maybe one packet every 2 seconds or so. I wasn't iGated, despite sending my beacon several times manually. If the downlink is this full of PBBS packets, is that clear evidence that the uplink is active, since only a successful uplink to the PBBS would trigger the flood of packets?? 73, Ryan AI6DO From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 02:02:05 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 22:02:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <2070269545.7892948.1527902235364@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> <2070269545.7892948.1527902235364@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ryan, Extra! Extra! Read all about it ;) https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FalconSAT-3-Status-Packets.pdf The "flood" is from a ground station requesting a directory update and/or a file download. Specifics in the above PDF will spell it all out. Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > So, to be clear, you're saying that the flood of PFS3-1, -11, -12 packets > is only initiated by a PBBS user's uplink, and is not autonomously > initiated by the satellite based on time, location, insolation, or some > other stimulus that is not communicated to the satellite via the 145.840 > MHz uplink, correct? > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > On Friday, June 1, 2018, 5:10:44 PM PDT, Mark L. Hammond < > marklhammond at gmail.com> wrote: > > Sounds like good logic, Ryan! > Mark N8MH > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:28 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > I'd agree that the attitude of the satellite affects link margin, given > the geometry of the antennas in the satellite drawings I've seen. > > This FS-3 pass I just tried must have had a lot more PBBS traffic, not > quite as much as Wed or Thu, but much more than two hours ago, maybe one > packet every 2 seconds or so. I wasn't iGated, despite sending my beacon > several times manually. If the downlink is this full of PBBS packets, is > that clear evidence that the uplink is active, since only a successful > uplink to the PBBS would trigger the flood of packets? > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Sat Jun 2 03:15:36 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT)) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:15:36 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon --> bit of a rant In-Reply-To: References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> <9adc0cd2-016c-f911-7e8a-f2991c1826e3@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <01d64b28-021e-c40c-3379-c70781f6a98b@msa.hinet.net> Hi Scott, Yet another website with amateur satellite info. As a sat beginner you quickly find out that the amateur satellite world is a very disorganized place. I know it is an illusion that the perfect information source exists, but as messy as it is now.......... The same goes for software. Let's start with names: some use the AMSAT designators (OA-91), others use common names (Fox-1B), yet others use the NORAD number or the NSSDC ID. So you have to juggle with naming conventions between different websites and software/apps. Then websites: you would think that the AMSAT website has at least the minimum amount of information on past and present amateur satellites. First: what AMSAT website? There is AMSAT in the US, AMSAT-UK, AMSAT-EA, AMSAT-ON...... As the US is usually leading the way, let's go to the AMSAT-NA site. I am interested in Athenoxat-1 and skCube. Quick search.......nothing. Ok, to their status page which says: "This web page was created to give a single global reference point for all users in the Amateur Satellite Service to show the most up-to-date status of all satellites as actually reported in real time by users around the world." If so, why are there only a handful of birds listed? This will confuse the heck out of sat newbies. So you send me to the DK3WN site, which seems rather complete and up-to-date. (BTW, it usually scares me when one person creates such an extensive and well organized website on which many people rely. What if the good OM goes SK? The same goes for software, btw). Look up the status of Yublileiny RS-30? Active! If you dig a bit deeper you will find the last report from November 2012, so it is obvious that the bird is dead (or sleeping very deeply). But it is listed as active, which I believe and subsequently I might waste a lot of time tracking a bird that is not there. You are right, Scott, you gave me one way to answer my question and I thank you for that. The "bit of a rant" above is not directed at you, at all, but I hope it will help make the world a bit better, especially for sat newbies who read this: if you're confused and a bit frustrated........YOU ARE NOT ALONE. 73 de Hans BX2ABT On 06/01/2018 11:25 PM, Scott wrote: > >>> what other sats do have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in > morse code)? > > One way to answer that would be to look at the following page and > search for "CW".? Then, check to see if the status shows "ACTIVE". > > http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535 > > 73! > > -Scott,? K4KDR > > > ========================================== > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) > > wrote: > > Hello Hugh and Jean-Pierre, > > Thanks for pointing out SatNOGS to me. I'm new to sats and didn't > realize that SatNOGS had this capability. I'll check it out. > > So it seems RS-30 is dead. I checked the SatNOGS recordings, but I > couldn't detect any CW. A pity, 'cause back in 2009 it was one of > the first sat signals I received on my HT with a simple antenna. > > I asked this question before on this list, but what other sats do > have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? Any > suggestions are welcome. Cheers. > > Hans > > BX2ABT > > > > On 06/01/2018 10:10 PM, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: > > ? Hi, Hans, > > ? The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was > on november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and > the CW beacon was on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215 > MHz was used by the digital telemetry downlink (with the > russian Doka-B ground stations). But anyway, I listen from > time to time to the frequencies of the missing birds, just in > case... My russian favorite was Mozhyets-4 RS-22.? :-) and my > favorite chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, HO-68)my favorite, which is > still possible to hear from time to time when solar panels are > under the sun (like AO-7). > > ? Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW > telemetry on 70 cm. > > > > On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) > received some decent signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 > MHz). I had some good passes for Yubileiny RS-30 in the > last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. So, > questions: > > 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? > > 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon > active 435.215 or 435.315? > > 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. > > I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 > recently. On the web I can't find any recent observations. > Thank you. > > > Hans > > BX2ABT > From pconver at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 04:22:10 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 01:22:10 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon --> bit of a rant In-Reply-To: <01d64b28-021e-c40c-3379-c70781f6a98b@msa.hinet.net> References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> <9adc0cd2-016c-f911-7e8a-f2991c1826e3@msa.hinet.net> <01d64b28-021e-c40c-3379-c70781f6a98b@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott, A way to track RS-30 is http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm?satx=rs-30 I've copied RS-30 CW Beacon, sometimes is active, try when sun is over this bird. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Yet another website with amateur satellite info. As a sat beginner you > quickly find out that the amateur satellite world is a very disorganized > place. I know it is an illusion that the perfect information source exists, > but as messy as it is now.......... The same goes for software. > > Let's start with names: some use the AMSAT designators (OA-91), others use > common names (Fox-1B), yet others use the NORAD number or the NSSDC ID. So > you have to juggle with naming conventions between different websites and > software/apps. > > Then websites: you would think that the AMSAT website has at least the > minimum amount of information on past and present amateur satellites. > First: what AMSAT website? There is AMSAT in the US, AMSAT-UK, AMSAT-EA, > AMSAT-ON...... As the US is usually leading the way, let's go to the > AMSAT-NA site. I am interested in Athenoxat-1 and skCube. Quick > search.......nothing. Ok, to their status page which says: "This web page > was created to give a single global reference point for all users in the > Amateur Satellite Service to show the most up-to-date status of all > satellites as actually reported in real time by users around the world." If > so, why are there only a handful of birds listed? This will confuse the > heck out of sat newbies. > > So you send me to the DK3WN site, which seems rather complete and > up-to-date. (BTW, it usually scares me when one person creates such an > extensive and well organized website on which many people rely. What if the > good OM goes SK? The same goes for software, btw). Look up the status of > Yublileiny RS-30? Active! If you dig a bit deeper you will find the last > report from November 2012, so it is obvious that the bird is dead (or > sleeping very deeply). But it is listed as active, which I believe and > subsequently I might waste a lot of time tracking a bird that is not there. > > You are right, Scott, you gave me one way to answer my question and I > thank you for that. The "bit of a rant" above is not directed at you, at > all, but I hope it will help make the world a bit better, especially for > sat newbies who read this: if you're confused and a bit > frustrated........YOU ARE NOT ALONE. > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT > > > On 06/01/2018 11:25 PM, Scott wrote: > >> >>> what other sats do have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in >> morse code)? >> >> One way to answer that would be to look at the following page and search >> for "CW". Then, check to see if the status shows "ACTIVE". >> >> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535 >> >> 73! >> >> -Scott, K4KDR >> >> >> ========================================== >> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) > > wrote: >> >> Hello Hugh and Jean-Pierre, >> >> Thanks for pointing out SatNOGS to me. I'm new to sats and didn't >> realize that SatNOGS had this capability. I'll check it out. >> >> So it seems RS-30 is dead. I checked the SatNOGS recordings, but I >> couldn't detect any CW. A pity, 'cause back in 2009 it was one of >> the first sat signals I received on my HT with a simple antenna. >> >> I asked this question before on this list, but what other sats do >> have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? Any >> suggestions are welcome. Cheers. >> >> Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> >> >> On 06/01/2018 10:10 PM, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: >> >> Hi, Hans, >> >> The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was >> on november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and >> the CW beacon was on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215 >> MHz was used by the digital telemetry downlink (with the >> russian Doka-B ground stations). But anyway, I listen from >> time to time to the frequencies of the missing birds, just in >> case... My russian favorite was Mozhyets-4 RS-22. :-) and my >> favorite chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, HO-68)my favorite, which is >> still possible to hear from time to time when solar panels are >> under the sun (like AO-7). >> >> Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW >> telemetry on 70 cm. >> >> >> >> On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) >> received some decent signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 >> MHz). I had some good passes for Yubileiny RS-30 in the >> last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. So, >> questions: >> >> 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? >> >> 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon >> active 435.215 or 435.315? >> >> 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. >> >> I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 >> recently. On the web I can't find any recent observations. >> Thank you. >> >> >> Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mail at mike-rupprecht.de Sat Jun 2 07:38:18 2018 From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 09:38:18 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon --> bit of a rant In-Reply-To: <01d64b28-021e-c40c-3379-c70781f6a98b@msa.hinet.net> References: <67033006-7607-ea2c-4831-28a6e711c65c@msa.hinet.net> <9adc0cd2-016c-f911-7e8a-f2991c1826e3@msa.hinet.net> <01d64b28-021e-c40c-3379-c70781f6a98b@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <000901d3fa44$ad8374f0$088a5ed0$@de> Hi Hans, the status ACTIVE does not necessarily mean that the CW beacon is activated worldwide. However, in Germany I can read the data transfer on request of the command station in Russia. Regarding the effort - yes - it is a big time effort. But nevertheless there are always satellites - and this includes unfortunately all RS-xx (Radio Sputniks), which neither undergo an IARU frequency coordination or are willing to publish their telemetry information. I can give you an entire list... In the end that makes it uninteresting and no one listen to this satellites anymore - maybe that's the reason for the old date of the last status. 73 Mike DK3WN -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Hans (BX2ABT) Gesendet: 02 June 2018 05:16 An: Scott Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon --> bit of a rant Hi Scott, Yet another website with amateur satellite info. As a sat beginner you quickly find out that the amateur satellite world is a very disorganized place. I know it is an illusion that the perfect information source exists, but as messy as it is now.......... The same goes for software. Let's start with names: some use the AMSAT designators (OA-91), others use common names (Fox-1B), yet others use the NORAD number or the NSSDC ID. So you have to juggle with naming conventions between different websites and software/apps. Then websites: you would think that the AMSAT website has at least the minimum amount of information on past and present amateur satellites. First: what AMSAT website? There is AMSAT in the US, AMSAT-UK, AMSAT-EA, AMSAT-ON...... As the US is usually leading the way, let's go to the AMSAT-NA site. I am interested in Athenoxat-1 and skCube. Quick search.......nothing. Ok, to their status page which says: "This web page was created to give a single global reference point for all users in the Amateur Satellite Service to show the most up-to-date status of all satellites as actually reported in real time by users around the world." If so, why are there only a handful of birds listed? This will confuse the heck out of sat newbies. So you send me to the DK3WN site, which seems rather complete and up-to-date. (BTW, it usually scares me when one person creates such an extensive and well organized website on which many people rely. What if the good OM goes SK? The same goes for software, btw). Look up the status of Yublileiny RS-30? Active! If you dig a bit deeper you will find the last report from November 2012, so it is obvious that the bird is dead (or sleeping very deeply). But it is listed as active, which I believe and subsequently I might waste a lot of time tracking a bird that is not there. You are right, Scott, you gave me one way to answer my question and I thank you for that. The "bit of a rant" above is not directed at you, at all, but I hope it will help make the world a bit better, especially for sat newbies who read this: if you're confused and a bit frustrated........YOU ARE NOT ALONE. 73 de Hans BX2ABT On 06/01/2018 11:25 PM, Scott wrote: > >>> what other sats do have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in > morse code)? > > One way to answer that would be to look at the following page and > search for "CW". Then, check to see if the status shows "ACTIVE". > > http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535 > > 73! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ========================================== > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) > > wrote: > > Hello Hugh and Jean-Pierre, > > Thanks for pointing out SatNOGS to me. I'm new to sats and didn't > realize that SatNOGS had this capability. I'll check it out. > > So it seems RS-30 is dead. I checked the SatNOGS recordings, but I > couldn't detect any CW. A pity, 'cause back in 2009 it was one of > the first sat signals I received on my HT with a simple antenna. > > I asked this question before on this list, but what other sats do > have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? Any > suggestions are welcome. Cheers. > > Hans > > BX2ABT > > > > On 06/01/2018 10:10 PM, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: > > Hi, Hans, > > The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was > on november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and > the CW beacon was on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215 > MHz was used by the digital telemetry downlink (with the > russian Doka-B ground stations). But anyway, I listen from > time to time to the frequencies of the missing birds, just in > case... My russian favorite was Mozhyets-4 RS-22. :-) and my > favorite chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, HO-68)my favorite, which is > still possible to hear from time to time when solar panels are > under the sun (like AO-7). > > Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW > telemetry on 70 cm. > > > > On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally) > received some decent signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485 > MHz). I had some good passes for Yubileiny RS-30 in the > last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. So, > questions: > > 1) is RS-30 dead or still alive? > > 2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon > active 435.215 or 435.315? > > 3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW. > > I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30 > recently. On the web I can't find any recent observations. > Thank you. > > > Hans > > BX2ABT > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at milnet.uk.net Fri Jun 1 17:22:05 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 18:22:05 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73/FUNcube-1 Operations Message-ID: <97D468206D2F4F0F8DFCC44867A35E0E@jimPC2> Hi All, The transponder has just been switched to continuous transponder operation. Will revert to continuous auto switching mode on Sun pm or Mon am UTC. morning. Have fun 73 Jim G3WGM and the FUNCube team From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 12:00:18 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2059507888.1351362.1527940818945@mail.yahoo.com> PFS3-1 is the path for APRS digipeating, correct? I assume all the other passes displayed are from the BBS. Is there a list of what I would expect to see? 73, Rob KA2CZU On Friday, June 1, 2018, 5:06:51 PM EDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: The pass I just got on had a much more sedate downlink, with a roughly-estimated average of about one PFS3-1 or PFS3-11 undecoded packet about every 4 seconds or so over the course of the pass. Despite seeing a bunch of beacon and message traffic by WD9EWK and KB6LTY and completing a QSO with WD9EWK, I was able to get that My Message indication for the first time in quite a while, and see my beacons and messages get sent with no more than a second or two delay.? A huge change from the past couple of days, with no change in my configuration.? I can certainly report FS-3 was Blue for this pass. Thanks for the QSO, Patrick! It seemed like you got a steady stream of traffic on AO-91 just before, enough that I couldn't get through myself, which is my typical experience on the FM birds during daylight hours.? 73, Ryan AI6DO ? ? On Friday, June 1, 2018, 12:31:01 PM PDT, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:? John, Normally, working FalconSat-3 should be the same as any other orbiting digipeater, where you would see a "My Message" or "My Position" notification on your HT's screen when you are digipeated. FalconSat-3 sends down so much data, that it is possible your HT misses the digipeated packet, or it received it with a series of other packets so fast you miss the on-screen notification. That's why I find myself checking the listing of stations heard and message listings during a FalconSat-3 pass, in case I missed something. ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From py4zbz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 12:02:00 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of ATX beacon decoder References: <2023184560.1357311.1527940920341.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2023184560.1357311.1527940920341@mail.yahoo.com> New version of ATX beacon decoder here: <> Results of the ATHENOXAT-1 IMAGE PUZZLES: ROUND 4 here: <> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From ai6do at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 14:42:51 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 14:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> <2070269545.7892948.1527902235364@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1147030468.8041675.1527950571832@mail.yahoo.com> I've read this document before and it doesn't really answer my question; that's beyond the scope of the document's intent. However, I trust your operational experience that the flood of (primarily) PFS3-11 packets is the manifestation of specific PBBS operations that can only be initiated by user command sent via the uplink.? Thanks and 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 7:02:07 PM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Hi Ryan, Extra! Extra!? Read all about it ;)?? https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FalconSAT-3-Status-Packets.pdf The "flood" is from a ground station requesting a directory update and/or a file download.? Specifics in the above PDF will spell it all out. Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: ?So, to be clear, you're saying that the flood of PFS3-1, -11, -12 packets is only initiated by a PBBS user's uplink, and is not autonomously initiated by the satellite based on time, location, insolation, or some other stimulus that is not communicated to the satellite via the 145.840 MHz uplink, correct? 73, Ryan AI6DO From ai6do at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 14:47:08 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <2059507888.1351362.1527940818945@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <2059507888.1351362.1527940818945@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1628265666.8014253.1527950828521@mail.yahoo.com> This document describes the format of the packets:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FalconSAT-3-Status-Packets.pdf PFS3-1 is the PATH you use for digipeating, but that call is not only used for the digipeating function.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Saturday, June 2, 2018, 5:00:24 AM PDT, Robert Switzer wrote: PFS3-1 is the path for APRS digipeating, correct? I assume all the other passes displayed are from the BBS. Is there a list of what I would expect to see? 73, Rob KA2CZU From cencinoit at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 12:33:25 2018 From: cencinoit at gmail.com (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 14:33:25 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp and NO -5 Message-ID: Hello, i know it has been already discussed but due to a mail problems i've lost the email. Please apologize if i make a request already done. Today i have tried to request the directory to the Falconsat-3 satellite but i geta s response: NO -5 IK8OZV Maybe i am missing something in the setups. Will there bw anyone so kind to pint me to the right way and Correct my mistakes? Thanks in advance. 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************* ****** GSM +39 328 7110193 ****** ***** SMS +39 328 7110193 ***** ********************************* From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jun 2 15:19:05 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 15:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail - Friedrichshafen Ham Radio 2018 References: <622060603.13926907.1527952745618.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <622060603.13926907.1527952745618@mail.yahoo.com> Earlier today David Bowman @g0mrf Tweeted: Peter DB2OS. Es'hail 2"The satellite is ready to be shipped to the launch site" 73 Trevor M5AKA From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 15:19:29 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 11:19:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: <1147030468.8041675.1527950571832@mail.yahoo.com> References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> <2070269545.7892948.1527902235364@mail.yahoo.com> <1147030468.8041675.1527950571832@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually, I think the answer is in there to match my remarks: "PFS3-11 > QST-1 : This is a packet containing information from the file system, either directory updates or a part of a file. The words between the < > are inserted to avoid filling up the screen with potentially unprintable characters and strings of text in a message. So, it's these packets that you see in response to a directory or file request. They are the "flood" initiated by ground stations...the other status type PFS3-11 packets are much less frequent (we can command the bird to change their frequency, within limits). Yes, in this case it's safe trust my operational experience ;) Been doing these birds since AO-16/DO-17/WO-18/LO-19. The basic PBBS is the same, for all these years. Grateful the Wisp client still runs on Win10! Mark N8MH At 02:42 PM 6/2/2018 +0000, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I've read this document before and it doesn't really answer my question; that's beyond the scope of the document's intent. However, I trust your operational experience that the flood of (primarily) PFS3-11 packets is the manifestation of specific PBBS operations that can only be initiated by user command sent via the uplink.? Thanks and 73, Ryan AI6DO On Friday, June 1, 2018, 7:02:07 PM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Hi Ryan, Extra! Extra!? Read all about it ;)? ? https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FalconSAT-3-Status-Packets.pdf The "flood" is from a ground station requesting a directory update and/or a file download.? Specifics in the above PDF will spell it all out. Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: ? So, to be clear, you're saying that the flood of PFS3-1, -11, -12 packets is only initiated by a PBBS user's uplink, and is not autonomously initiated by the satellite based on time, location, insolation, or some other stimulus that is not communicated to the satellite via the 145.840 MHz uplink, correct? 73, Ryan AI6DO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From occamrazr at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 15:31:31 2018 From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:31:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] My two cents on this BBS vs. " A forum" Message-ID: <38E62D65-A5EF-4D7E-BA9C-453F08B85CD2@yahoo.com> I am an old ham but new to satellite operations and I?m building a ground station for a local middle school. I fully support AMSAT and this BBS. I have been on this BBS for a few months now looking for information that I could use. I?ve gotten good responses to my specific questions, but as a resource for newbies, I find it lacking. This BBS seems to me more of a ?chat line? than a store house of knowledge. I would like to suggest that AMSAT create a forum that keeps up to date info on specific subjects such as active satellites, specific satellites (and their quirks), basic info for newbies, product reviews, volunteer Elmers, homebrew projects, buy/sell/trade, etc. In this way, the accumulated knowledge is stored and searchable and not tossed into the recycle bin. I would also like to suggest that AMSAT survey its members to get some real data on their thoughts rather than just having an open ended discussion. Thanks for listening. Butch K8KO From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 15:44:13 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 19:44:13 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail - Friedrichshafen Ham Radio 2018 In-Reply-To: <622060603.13926907.1527952745618@mail.yahoo.com> References: <622060603.13926907.1527952745618.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <622060603.13926907.1527952745618@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06C4A5BE-C46A-4B3D-8DA0-6F4C4399F362@gmail.com> Trevor, Thanks for the info. I am fully ready for it this side, both Tx & Rx setup already tested and antennas already pointed, just waiting for it. Seems that finally we may have the first GEO. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:19 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Earlier today David Bowman @g0mrf Tweeted: Peter DB2OS. Es'hail 2"The satellite is ready to be shipped to the launch site" > > 73 Trevor M5AKA > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ai6do at yahoo.com Sat Jun 2 16:00:21 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 16:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Standard for AMSAT status board observations of FS-3 In-Reply-To: References: <835752619.7653933.1527863329538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <835752619.7653933.1527863329538@mail.yahoo.com> <311986443.1056565.1527868356189@mail.yahoo.com> <611757454.7837848.1527887096656@mail.yahoo.com> <1032300116.7885824.1527894484014@mail.yahoo.com> <2070269545.7892948.1527902235364@mail.yahoo.com> <1147030468.8041675.1527950571832@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <150465360.8047748.1527955221981@mail.yahoo.com> Mark, The document does not define the complete set of conditions under which a given packet type could be transmitted. To be fair, that was not the document's intent.?The combination of the document and your operational experience together tells the story adequately for my purposes (as an amateur operator, not as a professional systems engineer for high-reliability space systems), but the document does not do so by itself.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Saturday, June 2, 2018, 8:19:31 AM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Actually, I think the answer is in there to match myremarks: "PFS3-11 > QST-1 : This is a packet containing information from the file system, either directory updates or a part of a file. The words between the < > are inserted to avoid filling up thescreen with potentially unprintable? characters and strings of textin a message. So, it's these packets that you see in response to a directory or filerequest.? They are the "flood" initiated by groundstations...the other status type PFS3-11 packets are much less frequent(we can command the bird to change their frequency, within limits).? Yes, in this case it's safe trust my operational experience ;)? Beendoing these birds since AO-16/DO-17/WO-18/LO-19.? The basic PBBS isthe same, for all these years.? Grateful the Wisp client still runson Win10! Mark N8MH From wmc_jx at 163.com Sat Jun 2 16:42:17 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 00:42:17 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 Message-ID: <71213686.6b00.163c160d173.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The test for DSLWP-B UHF is now scheduled from 2 Jun 22:00 UTC to 2 Jun 23:50 UTC, and from 3 Jun 02:30 UTC to 3 Jun 03:30 UTC. We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs should be used. We upload some updates for gr-dslwp: https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt Updated version of Live CD: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing Best Regards and 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jun 2 16:51:30 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 16:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail - Friedrichshafen Ham Radio 2018 In-Reply-To: <06C4A5BE-C46A-4B3D-8DA0-6F4C4399F362@gmail.com> References: <622060603.13926907.1527952745618.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <622060603.13926907.1527952745618@mail.yahoo.com> <06C4A5BE-C46A-4B3D-8DA0-6F4C4399F362@gmail.com> Message-ID: <638386412.13951879.1527958290582@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, I'm looking forward to it, however, although the satellite may be ready there's still been no word on a possible launch. 73 Trevor M5AKA On Saturday, 2 June 2018, 16:44:18 GMT+1, Jean Marc Momple wrote: Trevor, Thanks for the info. I am fully ready for it this side, both Tx & Rx setup already tested and antennas already pointed, just waiting for it. Seems that finally we may have the first GEO. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:19 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Earlier today David Bowman @g0mrf Tweeted: Peter DB2OS. Es'hail 2"The satellite is ready to be shipped to the launch site" > > 73 Trevor M5AKA > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From 4z5cp at bezeqint.net Sat Jun 2 17:26:42 2018 From: 4z5cp at bezeqint.net (Dimitry Borzenko) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 17:26:42 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: Hello Wei and group. Have checked new LiveCD- makes problem, FrontEnd DSLWP RXRTL loads 4 i7 CPUs 90%, so demodulator doesn't works terminal show message about too many packet drops..... de 4z5cp ------ Original Message ------ From: "???" To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: 31.05.2018 11:32:18 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 >Hi OMs, > > >We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to >31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. > > >We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on >435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher >priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding >demod grcs should be used. > > >Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. > > >The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, >that's why UHF is not always on. > > > >Tracking file updates can be found on: >https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or >http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > > >Updated version of Live CD: >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing > > >Best Regards and 73! > > >Wei BG2BHC > > > > > > > >-- > >WEI Mingchuan > > >Research Center of Satellite Technology >Harbin Institute of Technology >mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp Sat Jun 2 20:39:55 2018 From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 05:39:55 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp and NO -5 Message-ID: Please refer, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisp_no5.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp Sat Jun 2 22:17:13 2018 From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 07:17:13 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp and NO -5 Message-ID: Please refer, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisp_no5.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 23:53:45 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 18:53:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Beginner Resources Message-ID: Butch, satellite operation can be daunting. There is a TON of information out there however. Let me suggest a couple of resources: Start here --> https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/ Also, look into getting this book --> https://www.amsat.org/product/2018-edition-of-getting-started-with-amateur-satellites/ You didn't say what aspect of Sat operation you are interested in, or the scope of the middle school ground station, but there is plenty of good starter info above. As to the quality of information on this EMAIL reflector, it is what it is. This is NOT a threaded BBS, it is an email service. As to the storehouse of info, you can peruse the amsat-bb archives which I find quite helpful. There is quite a lot of info on Social Media as well. My suggestion is to review the link above, and ask your questions here and your social media of choice in order to further your knowledge. 73 Brad WF7T Nashville, TN EM66 --- Message: 11 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:31:31 -0400 From: Butch To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] My two cents on this BBS vs. " A forum" Message-ID: <38E62D65-A5EF-4D7E-BA9C-453F08B85CD2 at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I am an old ham but new to satellite operations and I?m building a ground station for a local middle school. I fully support AMSAT and this BBS. I have been on this BBS for a few months now looking for information that I could use. I?ve gotten good responses to my specific questions, but as a resource for newbies, I find it lacking. This BBS seems to me more of a ?chat line? than a store house of knowledge. I would like to suggest that AMSAT create a forum that keeps up to date info on specific subjects such as active satellites, specific satellites (and their quirks), basic info for newbies, product reviews, volunteer Elmers, homebrew projects, buy/sell/trade, etc. In this way, the accumulated knowledge is stored and searchable and not tossed into the recycle bin. I would also like to suggest that AMSAT survey its members to get some real data on their thoughts rather than just having an open ended discussion. Thanks for listening. Butch K8KO From scruzan1 at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 01:28:36 2018 From: scruzan1 at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 19:28:36 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic Message-ID: I recently saw a question about this, but missed the answer. Being a newbie to sats also, I was wondering about that too. I assume it?s true bearings, because if it were magnetic, that would entail everyone to calculate the declination from there locale. So is it true? Thanks! Rick KE6LL From rwheindl at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 02:51:32 2018 From: rwheindl at gmail.com (Roger Heindl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 21:51:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Easy Rotor Controller (ERC-M), SATPC32, and Yaesu G5400B Antenna Rotor Message-ID: The Milwaukee Radio Amateur Club is sponsoring and assembling an ARISS contact station. We've purchased an ERC-M USB from Vibroplex and installed SATPC32 on a Windows 7 laptop. Our initial tests with the included software for the ERC work and we can control the rotor when we specify COM4. However when we launch SATPC32, the Rotor options for Yaesu only list LPT ports. Could anyone provide guidance for a way to specify USB COM4 for the ERC in the SATPC32 software? Reading the archives, it seems like others have been successful with this configuration. Could someone provide us with additional information on your setup for SATPC32? Or should we possibly consider an alternate software such as GPredict (though GPredict only had network settings for rotor control, I didn't see any COM port fields in GPredict either). I'm a bit confused how others set this up. Thanks for any assistance, Roger AC9BT From jim at k6ccc.org Sun Jun 3 03:59:55 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 20:59:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2652255e-6a64-5689-2cb4-05fd97df46cd@k6ccc.org> On 6/2/2018 18:28, Rick wrote: > I recently saw a question about this, but missed the answer. Being a newbie > to sats also, I was wondering about that too. I assume it?s true bearings, > because if it were magnetic, that would entail everyone to calculate the > declination from there locale. So is it true? Correct. True. -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From dave4e at yahoo.com Sun Jun 3 07:43:16 2018 From: dave4e at yahoo.com (Dave Ryan) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 07:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Easy Rotor Controller (ERC-M), SATPC32, and Yaesu G5400B Antenna Rotor References: <562091349.8182384.1528011796322.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <562091349.8182384.1528011796322@mail.yahoo.com> Hi?You set the com port in the SDX server.? Set up is described in manual? www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm Dave M0GIW? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From jcwerth1 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 3 12:33:31 2018 From: jcwerth1 at yahoo.com (Joe Werth) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 07:33:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Easy Rotor Controller (ERC-M), SATPC32, and Yaesu G5400B Antenna Rotor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5465ECF1-91F6-4B6E-907C-7464D5B7666E@yahoo.com> Roger, You might look at PSTRotator software. It supports ERC and the COM ports...and is inexpensive software. Joe. KE9AJ Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 2, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Roger Heindl wrote: > > The Milwaukee Radio Amateur Club is sponsoring and assembling an ARISS > contact station. We've purchased an ERC-M USB from Vibroplex and installed > SATPC32 on a Windows 7 laptop. > > Our initial tests with the included software for the ERC work and we can > control the rotor when we specify COM4. However when we launch SATPC32, the > Rotor options for Yaesu only list LPT ports. Could anyone provide guidance > for a way to specify USB COM4 for the ERC in the SATPC32 software? > > Reading the archives, it seems like others have been successful with this > configuration. Could someone provide us with additional information on your > setup for SATPC32? Or should we possibly consider an alternate software > such as GPredict (though GPredict only had network settings for rotor > control, I didn't see any COM port fields in GPredict either). I'm a bit > confused how others set this up. > > Thanks for any assistance, > Roger > AC9BT > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Sun Jun 3 03:15:05 2018 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 23:15:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <163c3a42481-c93-34994@webjas-vac065.srv.aolmail.net> Yes, you want "Map North" and not "Magnetic North". The USGS lists magnetic deviation needed to correct your compass readings. In Southern California I had to make a 12.5* correction. Here in Northern Colorado it's only 8.5*. Jim Jerzycke kq6ea at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Rick To: amsat-bb Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2018 3:09 am Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic I recently saw a question about this, but missed the answer. Being a newbieto sats also, I was wondering about that too. I assume it?s true bearings,because if it were magnetic, that would entail everyone to calculate thedeclination from there locale. So is it true?Thanks!RickKE6LL_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Sun Jun 3 14:59:27 2018 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 09:59:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: <163c3a42481-c93-34994@webjas-vac065.srv.aolmail.net> References: <163c3a42481-c93-34994@webjas-vac065.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Imagine if you were in Alaska, true north and magnetic north are 20 degrees off Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/2/2018 10:15 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote: > Yes, you want "Map North" and not "Magnetic North". > > > > The USGS lists magnetic deviation needed to correct your compass readings. In Southern California I had to make a 12.5* correction. Here in Northern Colorado it's only 8.5*. > > > > > > Jim Jerzycke > kq6ea at verizon.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick > To: amsat-bb > Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2018 3:09 am > Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic > > I recently saw a question about this, but missed the answer. Being a newbieto sats also, I was wondering about that too. I assume it?s true bearings,because if it were magnetic, that would entail everyone to calculate thedeclination from there locale. So is it true?Thanks!RickKE6LL_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnki4ro at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 16:10:39 2018 From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:10:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic Message-ID: I don't think its all that critical based on what I see here: http://www.dx-antennas.com/Yagi3.htm 73 John KI4RO From cencinoit at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 16:31:01 2018 From: cencinoit at gmail.com (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 17:31:01 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp & Settings Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to set the Wisp on Windows 10 but having problems to get the settings permanent. If I go into Tracking and select the satellites I want to have under eyes, When I close the GSC and shut down the PC on the next Start-up of the PC and the Wisp program, I get the lower part of the GSC program Empty. I have to go again in the tracking tab and select again the satellites but At the next shut down and restart I am again at the beginning point. What to do to get them permanent? Thanks 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************* ****** GSM +39 328 7110193 ****** ***** SMS +39 328 7110193 ***** ********************************* From kg5jup at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 17:17:02 2018 From: kg5jup at gmail.com (Chris Bradley (AA0CB)) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:17:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-154 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-154 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Help Requested to Monitor for Signals From Chinese Lunar Sats * Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution * Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers * Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018 * China Microsatellite Symposium 2018 * ARLP022 Propagation de K7RA * ARRL VUCC Satellite Awards and Endorsements * Upcoming Binaryspace HAB Launch * Satellite Shorts SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-154.01 ANS-154 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 154.01 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE JUNE 03, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-154.01 Help Requested to Monitor for Signals From Chinese Lunar Sats After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter problems. Quoting Wei BG2BHC: "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A on 435.425 and 436.425 now? We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment. We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not. If operating, 435.425 MHz should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately. 436.425 MHz should be 250 bps GMSK. Both transmit once in 5 minutes. LONGJIANG 1 - NORAD CAT ID 43471 LONGJIANG 2 - NORAD CAT ID 43472 [Nico, PA0DLO, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has announced that three cubesat carrying Amateur Radio payloads were deployed from the ISS on May 11 at around 1030 UTC. See AMSAT News Service bulletin ANS-133 for details. The following cubesats have been added to this week's AMSAT-NA TLE distribution and are designated by Space-Track as follows: 1KUNS-PF (Kenya)- NORAD CAT ID 43466 (a 3U cubesat with a 1200 bps or 9600 bps telemetry beacon at 437.300 MHz) UBAKUSAT (Turkey)- NORAD CAT ID 43467 (a 3U cubesat with a CW beacon at 437.225 MHz, a telemetry beacon at 435.325 MHZ, and a linear transponder with a 435.200 - 435.250 MHz downlink / 145.940 - 145.990 MHz uplink) Irazu (Costa Rica) - NORAD CAT ID 43468 (a 1U cubesat with a 9600 bps telemetry beacon at 436.500 MHz) Nico Janssen (PA0DLO) reminds us that it is still too early to tell if the above CAT ID's are correct for each object. There may be changes. [ANS thanks Ray, WA5QGD, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC) and publication in the Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for publication. Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2018 and should be submitted to Maty Weinberg, ARRL 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 or via the Internet to maty at arrl.org The ARRL and TAPR DCC is an international forum for radio amateurs to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques. This year, the DCC is in Albuquerque, New Mexico, September 14- 16. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, but are not limited to: ? Software Defined Radio (SDR) ? Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO) ? Digital satellite communications ? Global position system ? Precise Timing ? Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) ? Short messaging (a mode of APRS) ? Digital Signal Processing (DSP) ? HF digital modes ? Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks ? Spread spectrum ? IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for A mateur Radio ? Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio ? Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking ? Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in Amateur Radio ? Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols ? Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art Go to https://tinyurl.com/y7wgm6vh to view the guidelines for paper submissions [ANS thanks the TAPR PSR for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018 You are invited to participate in the 2018 NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality {AAQ) Workshop. This event will take place at Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio on Friday, September 7 from 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM. The event targets academics (faculty, researchers, students) involved with space related activities such as cube sat, small sat, high altitude balloon, rocket and more. It is also designed for those wishing to be involved with NASA space related projects. The event will feature speakers and a poster session. Travel stipends from NASA are available to attendees on a limited basis and will favor those giving a presentation or poster. There is no registration charge for attending the event but registration in advance is required. Please register at the link below by July 31. http://spider2.eng.auburn.edu/AAQ/registration.html The NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality is an open access virtual academy of educational modules, lessons learned, standards, case studies and more related to quality assurance for space related projects, especially those from academic based teams. The website is: http://aaq.auburn.edu Links to the agenda and materials from previous NASA AAQ Workshops can be found at the link below: http://aaq.eng.auburn.edu/events [ANS thanks Alice Smith and Jeff Smith for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- China Microsatellite Symposium 2018 The China Microsatellite Symposium(CMS2018), (www.microsatsymp.com) will be held at Northwestern Polytechnical University, Xi'an China on 18th - 20th November 2018. The symposium includes keynote presentations and several sessions which will focus on the design experience, scientific missions, launch opportunities and all new technologies about microsatellites. In addition, another import session, International CubeSat and Mission Contest will be held on 20th November 2018, after which a free launch opportunity of 3U CubeSat or 1U payload capacity will be awarded to the winner of the first prize. Participants can get information and submit the works through the official website of our contest: www.cubesatcontest.org. The submission deadlines for the abstract of CMS2018 and work of CubeSat contest are both August 31, 2018. You could submit abstract and get information on the website www.microsatsymp.com Along with the symposium, there will also be a related exhibition, during which you can find the updated progress of CubeSat, launchers and other related technology. For exhibitors, you could also get information about booth on the website. The event is supported by China National Space Administration, International Astronautical Federation, Chinese Society of Astronautics and Chinese Institute of Command and Control. If you have any questions, please contact service at microsatsymp.com. [ANS thanks Ray Nugent for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARLP022 Propagation de K7RA ZCZC AP22 QST de W1AW Propagation Forecast Bulletin 22 ARLP022 >From Tad Cook, K7RA Seattle, WA June 1, 2018 To all radio amateurs SB PROP ARL ARLP022 ARLP022 Propagation de K7RA On May 30 at 0005 UTC the Australian Space Forecast Centre issued a warning: "On 1 June geomagnetic activity is expected to increase to Active and Minor Storm levels due to arrival of the co-rotating interaction region and high-speed solar wind streams associated with the recurrent trans-equatorial coronal hole." On May 31 http://www.spaceweather.com issued this Solar Wind Alert: "NOAA forecasters estimate a 60% chance of minor G1-class geomagnetic storms on June 1st, increasing to 65% on June 2nd, when a stream of high-speed solar wind is expected to reach Earth. The last time this gaseous stream lashed our planet's magnetic field, almost a month ago, it sparked bright ribbons of purple light (a.k.a. 'STEVE') seen from multiple US states. Visit today's edition of http://www.spaceweather.com for more information." The Sun remained active over the past reporting week. Average daily solar flux rose from 70.1 to 74.9, and average daily sunspot number rose from 7.7 to 26.3. During the previous week in which the average daily sunspot number was 7.7, the first four days had no sunspots. New sunspot regions appeared on May 21, 23 and 24. Predicted solar flux is 77 on June 1-3, 76, 74 and 72 on June 4-6, 70 on June 7-8, 71 on June 9, 72 on June 10-14, 70 on June 15-17, 72 on June 18-23, 73 on June 24, 72 on June 25-30, 70 on July 1-6, 72 on July 7-11, 70 on July 12-14 and 72 on July 15. Predicted planetary A index is 25 on June 1-2, 15, 12 and 8 on June 3-5, 5 on June 6-12, 8 on June 13, 5 on June 14-18, 8 on June 19, 5 on June 20-23, 8 on June 24-25, 5 on June 26-27, then 15, 28, 15, 12, 10 and 8 on June 28 through July 3, then 5 on July 4-9, 8 on July 10, and 5 on July 11-15. 2018 ARRL Field Day is June 23-24. Assuming the predicted numbers above, conditions should be good for Field Day. We want to see low geomagnetic activity, and planetary A index at 5 and 8 on Saturday and Sunday are good indicators. During this period of low solar activity solar flux at 72 and 73 is also good. Ted Leaf, K6HI of Kona, Hawaii reports that he is still in operation through the local volcanic activity, and asks, "Are there beacons for the lower frequencies, especially now with the lower solar flux?" I found this Wikipedia resource for HF beacons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_propagation_beacon Of course, there are lower frequency HF resources on http://www.wsprnet.org, but this is a bit different than showing what you can tune in and hear without using a special weak signal mode. Any readers have suggestions for lower frequency HF beacons? Note that Ted has a comment on page 56 of the June 2018 QST regarding preamps and attenuator effects on receiver noise. >From last week: https://bit.ly/2LG8MAp F.K. Janda, OK1HH brings us this geomagnetic activity forecast for the period June 1-26, 2018. "Geomagnetic field will be: Quiet on June 11-12, 16-17, 20-23 Quiet to unsettled on June 10, 18, 24-25 Quiet to active on June 8-9 Unsettled to active on June 3-4, 7, 13-15, 19 Active to disturbed on June 1-2, (5-7, 26) "Solar wind will intensify on June 1-3, (4-8, 13-15), 16-17, (18-19, 22-24) "Remark: - Parenthesis means lower probability of activity enhancement. - Forecasts remain less reliable." >From Dr. Tamitha Skov, the Space Weather Woman: "What's Old is New Again "Dear Tad, "I am still smiling at the huge response I got to a post I put up on Twitter this week. A newbie to our Space Weather community dared to talk about amateur radio as if it were an outdated hobby-- whoops, bad idea. I gently educated him. In doing so, I roused many radio amateurs and emergency communicators, who added their own comments and talked about their own personal experiences in the field. It was very gratifying. What I hadn't expected, however, was the strong interest in the concept that amateur radio will be critical to establishing over-the-horizon radio communications on planets like Mars in the near future. "This idea brings me back to how we managed to communicate over long distances many decades before we had satellites, internet or cellular networks. In terms of wireless communications on Earth, we were very much in the same place back in the early 1900s that we find ourselves in now when we think about colonizing Mars. Yet few people realize that despite all our advanced technology, we can't bring a cell phone to Mars. We will need to fall back on our 'old ways' of doing things when it comes to communicating on other planets. Isn't it funny how 'old' things become 'new' again? "Speaking of, this week brings us a new chance for a decent solar storm. Strangely though, the source of this storm is an old coronal hole that gave us a moderate level solar storm about a month ago. This old hole has survived its backside passage on the Sun and has now returned, with the new promise of bringing aurora views down to mid-latitudes again. Isn't it funny, what was old has become new again, in more ways than one! "Cheers, Tamitha" Dr. Skov's latest video report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwvKyY26lB0 If you would like to make a comment or have a tip for our readers, email the author at, k7ra at arrl.net . For more information concerning radio propagation, see the ARRL Technical Information Service web page at, http://arrl.org/propagation-of-rf-signals. For an explanation of numbers used in this bulletin, see http://arrl.org/the-sun-the-earth-the-ionosphere. An archive of past propagation bulletins is at http://arrl.org/w1aw-bulletins-archive-propagation. More good information and tutorials on propagation are at http://k9la.us/. Monthly propagation charts between four USA regions and twelve overseas locations are at http://arrl.org/propagation. Instructions for starting or ending email distribution of ARRL bulletins are at http://arrl.org/bulletins. Sunspot numbers for May 24 through 30, 2018 were 39, 32, 26, 27, 20, 22, and 18, with a mean of 26.3. 10.7 cm flux was 73.7, 75.7, 72.9, 74.6, 76.9, 74.9, and 75.3, with a mean of 74.9. Estimated planetary A indices were 4, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, and 4, with a mean of 3.9. Estimated mid-latitude A indices were 5, 4, 5, 5, 4, 5, and 5, with a mean of 4.7. [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARRL VUCC Satellite Awards and Endorsements Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period May 1, 2018 through Jun 1, 2018. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL 01 May 2018 01 Jun 2018 KO4MA 1598 1627 KD8CAO 1240 1253 N8HM 1025 1054 N8RO 1040 1051 K4FEG 877 901 K6FW 703 743 N9IP 589 609 N6UK 551 568 K5ND 502 526 WD9EWK 430 441 KE4AL 317 379 NS3L 300 325 VE7CEW 292 304 AA9LC New 299 AA8CH 218 256 G0ABI 124 200 N3GS 130 198 AA4FL 164 181 KE8FZT 100 175 XE1SEW New 130 WU2M New 105 KB2YSI New 101 PU8MRS New 100 If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at @.com and I'll revise the announcement. [ANS thanks Ron, W5RKN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Binaryspace HAB Launch Binaryspace is doing another High-Altitude Balloon Launch from about 07:00 CAT on 9 June from the Leeukop Farm Airfield in Deneysville in the Free State. Everybody is invited to join us for the day to launch and chase the balloon. We are estimating a 3-hour mission from launch to recovery. The Sasolburg Amateur Radio Club (ZS4SRK) will join us with the tracking and recovery of the payload. Flexible Use of Airspace has been approved and depending on weather or technical difficulties, the launch and/or the payload contents can change at any time. We have some new equipment to test on Mission - Binary 03. A SSTV Camera Transmitter (400 - 500 mW) will take a photo and transmit it every 5 minutes. The call sign is ZR6MUG and will transmit on 144.500 FM, Martin 1 Mode and you will need MMSSTV to decode. A Telemetry Transmitter (400 - 500 mW) will transmit telemetry data every 30 seconds under the call sign ZR6TG on 144.600 FM and you can use FLdigi to decode. And an APRS Transmitter (300 mW) will transmit position and altitude every minute on 144.800 MHz under the call ZR6TG-11. We will also have a Go-pro camera and a Science Lab (Raspberry pi based with lots of sensors) in the payload. The payload is estimated to be around 900 g and we are using a 1 000 g white balloon. There are several prizes and awards available. The first person to recover the payload will get a prize and footage of the payload coming down will receive a prize. Special awards will be given to everyone who captures the SSTV images and RTTY telemetry. Please e- mail the decoded information, time of transmission (bonus if you can provide a recorded sound clip), your location and the equipment used totvdbon at gmail.com. [ANS thanks SARL weekly news in English 2018-6-2 for the above information] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts (Venice, LA, USA) Wyatt Dirks, AC0RA, and Clayton Coleman, W5PFG's plan to activate maidenhead gridsquare EL58hx was rescheduled due to unsafe weather conditions. The new dates for the expedition are June 7-9, 2018. Please send your Hamvention photos that you would like to share with others in our amateur radio community to journal at amsat.org. (thanks to Joe, KB6IGK for the request) --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Chris Bradley, AA0CB aa0cb at amsat dot org From w4upd at cfl.rr.com Sun Jun 3 17:21:20 2018 From: w4upd at cfl.rr.com (w4upd) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:21:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp & Settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B142390.1050906@cfl.rr.com> I have the same problem. It is registry related since there is multiple locations in the Windows 10 registry it tries to store the data. I find that If I enter just one satellite (I usually use AO-07), then exit and restart GSC, all of the satellites are back (until maybe the next reboot). If there is a software update to Windows 10 it almost always needs to be done again as I did above. I don't think WISP32 is supported any longer so not sure this problem will get fixed. Reid, W4UPD On 6/3/2018 12:31 PM, Vincenzo Mone wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to set the Wisp on Windows 10 but having problems > > to get the settings permanent. > > If I go into Tracking and select the satellites I want to have under eyes, > > When I close the GSC and shut down the PC on the next > > Start-up of the PC and the Wisp program, I get the lower part of the GSC > program > > Empty. I have to go again in the tracking tab and select again the > satellites but > > At the next shut down and restart I am again at the beginning point. > > What to do to get them permanent? > > Thanks > > > > 73 de Enzo IK8OZV > EasyLog 5 BetaTester > EasyLog PDA BetaTester > WinBollet BetaTester > D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania > Skype: ik8ozv8520 > > > > > ********************************* > > ****** GSM +39 328 7110193 ****** > > ***** SMS +39 328 7110193 ***** > > ********************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From marklhammond at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 17:25:16 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 13:25:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp & Settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Enzo, I am only guessing but do have Gsc.exe running as administrator? I used ?right click? and made all .exe files in the Wisp directory to run as administrator always. Please do that first and try again. 73, Mark N8MH. On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 12:49 PM Vincenzo Mone wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to set the Wisp on Windows 10 but having problems > > to get the settings permanent. > > If I go into Tracking and select the satellites I want to have under eyes, > > When I close the GSC and shut down the PC on the next > > Start-up of the PC and the Wisp program, I get the lower part of the GSC > program > > Empty. I have to go again in the tracking tab and select again the > satellites but > > At the next shut down and restart I am again at the beginning point. > > What to do to get them permanent? > > Thanks > > > > 73 de Enzo IK8OZV > EasyLog 5 BetaTester > EasyLog PDA BetaTester > WinBollet BetaTester > D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania > Skype: ik8ozv8520 > > > > > ********************************* > > ****** GSM +39 328 7110193 ****** > > ***** SMS +39 328 7110193 ***** > > ********************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From w4upd at cfl.rr.com Sun Jun 3 17:56:16 2018 From: w4upd at cfl.rr.com (w4upd) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:56:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp & Settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B142BC0.6030709@cfl.rr.com> Makes no difference. That was the first thing I tried. Then I started investigating the multiple locations that some of the WISP data was located in the registry. I found that I also had to add my station info back in and then I would get the satellite tracking data in the lower part. Just got use to having to make the previously mentioned inserts and then everything worked again. Reid, W4UPD On 6/3/2018 1:25 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote: > Hello Enzo, I am only guessing but do have Gsc.exe running as > administrator? I used ?right click? and made all .exe files in the Wisp > directory to run as administrator always. Please do that first and try > again. > > 73, > Mark N8MH. > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 12:49 PM Vincenzo Mone wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to set the Wisp on Windows 10 but having problems >> >> to get the settings permanent. >> >> If I go into Tracking and select the satellites I want to have under eyes, >> >> When I close the GSC and shut down the PC on the next >> >> Start-up of the PC and the Wisp program, I get the lower part of the GSC >> program >> >> Empty. I have to go again in the tracking tab and select again the >> satellites but >> >> At the next shut down and restart I am again at the beginning point. >> >> What to do to get them permanent? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV >> EasyLog 5 BetaTester >> EasyLog PDA BetaTester >> WinBollet BetaTester >> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania >> Skype: ik8ozv8520 >> >> >> >> >> ********************************* >> >> ****** GSM +39 328 7110193 ****** >> >> ***** SMS +39 328 7110193 ***** >> >> ********************************* >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 18:41:37 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:41:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FB8B13B-3C54-48A0-902F-04CCC459DABD@gmail.com> You bring up an important point regarding beam width. The link provided shows a 3 element with 100? width so you need to be within 50? of either side of center to be inside the front lobe. Now consider a V/UHF beam that can have 3-5x as many elements. Say for instance you?re at 30? beam width or 15? to either side of center. If the station is off by 12.5? they are almost completely outside the lobe. With my 5x9 Arrow I notice just how much more accurate I need to be when pointing over the 3x7 Arrow II if I want maximum gain. That said, just how important it is to be true north versus magnetic north is going to depend on your beam width. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jun 3, 2018, at 12:10, John KI4RO wrote: > > I don't think its all that critical based on what I see here: > > http://www.dx-antennas.com/Yagi3.htm > > > 73 > John KI4RO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at k6ccc.org Sun Jun 3 19:01:42 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1528052502.732817379@apps.rackspace.com> Your example is a 3 element CB beam. That is a FAR cry from even the smallest yagis that are routinely used for VHF & UHF satellite operating. Personally, I run 22 elements on 2M and 40 elements on 430. Back on AO-40 on 2.4 GHz, I was running a 2 x 3 foot dish. I can guarantee you that with high performance antennas, the difference between magnetic and true heading would make a large difference. The VHF and UHF antennas (photo taken before the dish was added): http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/SatAnt1.html And one after the dish was added: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/S-band1.html And yes, before someone points it out, it's been years since I was active. Several reasons for that. One of these days, I will be back... 73 Jim Walls K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org -----Original Message----- From: "John KI4RO" Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 09:10 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic I don't think its all that critical based on what I see here: http://www.dx-antennas.com/Yagi3.htm 73 John KI4RO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 19:05:54 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 15:05:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: References: <7FB8B13B-3C54-48A0-902F-04CCC459DABD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8685A777-C031-4FB2-B437-D0D64DDCCEE6@gmail.com> Generally this question is asked WRT calibrating a rotor to north. In these cases the antennas on the rotors will be higher gain with a more narrow beam width. One must know all the variables like beam width and deviation at the QTH to say whether it is important or not. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jun 3, 2018, at 14:48, John KI4RO wrote: > > That's my point...for the average guy using a standard ARROW it isn't that big a deal....just get it pointed N or S and away you go. hi hi > > > 73 > John KI4RO > > >> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >> You bring up an important point regarding beam width. The link provided shows a 3 element with 100? width so you need to be within 50? of either side of center to be inside the front lobe. >> >> Now consider a V/UHF beam that can have 3-5x as many elements. Say for instance you?re at 30? beam width or 15? to either side of center. If the station is off by 12.5? they are almost completely outside the lobe. >> >> With my 5x9 Arrow I notice just how much more accurate I need to be when pointing over the 3x7 Arrow II if I want maximum gain. >> >> That said, just how important it is to be true north versus magnetic north is going to depend on your beam width. >> >> 73, >> Mike Diehl >> W8LID >> >> > On Jun 3, 2018, at 12:10, John KI4RO wrote: >> > >> > I don't think its all that critical based on what I see here: >> > >> > http://www.dx-antennas.com/Yagi3.htm >> > >> > >> > 73 >> > John KI4RO >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k8bl at ameritech.net Sun Jun 3 19:13:09 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 19:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] True bearings vs. magnetic In-Reply-To: <8685A777-C031-4FB2-B437-D0D64DDCCEE6@gmail.com> References: <7FB8B13B-3C54-48A0-902F-04CCC459DABD@gmail.com> <8685A777-C031-4FB2-B437-D0D64DDCCEE6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <958123332.1661431.1528053189963@mail.yahoo.com> For Rovers only: When you're using a short handheld antenna and you're waving it around 45 degrees in azimuth and elevation and polarity every couple minutes trying to find the best signal from the satellite, "Sorta North" is plenty good enough. HI-HI !! 73 & Have Fun, Bob K8BL From tasmac at w5pfg.us Sun Jun 3 22:22:58 2018 From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 17:22:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nominations for AMSAT Board of Directors Election 2018 Message-ID: It's time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election. Three directors' terms expire this year: Tom Clark, K3IO, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and Bruce Paige, KK5DO. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one-year terms. A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304 Kensington, MD 20895-2526. In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by electronic means. These include e-mail, fax, or electronic image of a petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to martha at amsat.org or faxed to (301)822-4371. No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June 15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days following the close of nominations on June 15th. ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS. From kawfey at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 22:29:32 2018 From: kawfey at gmail.com (Sterling Coffey) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 00:29:32 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] My two cents on this BBS vs. " A forum" In-Reply-To: <38E62D65-A5EF-4D7E-BA9C-453F08B85CD2@yahoo.com> References: <38E62D65-A5EF-4D7E-BA9C-453F08B85CD2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: It sounds like you're asking more for a wiki rather than a forum. A wiki would be nice. This is what it could look like: http://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=Satellite. Anyone can create an account and edit it. This AMSAT-BB is essencially a forum, except it's done via email rather than on a website (like QRZ for example). To your point, a forum is much better indexed and searchable than an email reflector like this (and so is a Wiki). There's always the archives too. To search the archives, it's best if you type site: www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/ after the search term like this. -N0SSC On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 5:32 PM Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I am an old ham but new to satellite operations and I?m building a ground > station for a local middle school. > > I fully support AMSAT and this BBS. I have been on this BBS for a few > months now looking for information that I could use. I?ve gotten good > responses to my specific questions, but as a resource for newbies, I find > it lacking. This BBS seems to me more of a ?chat line? than a store house > of knowledge. > > I would like to suggest that AMSAT create a forum that keeps up to date > info on specific subjects such as active satellites, specific satellites > (and their quirks), basic info for newbies, product reviews, volunteer > Elmers, homebrew projects, buy/sell/trade, etc. In this way, the > accumulated knowledge is stored and searchable and not tossed into the > recycle bin. > > I would also like to suggest that AMSAT survey its members to get some > real data on their thoughts rather than just having an open ended > discussion. > > Thanks for listening. > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wmc_jx at 163.com Mon Jun 4 12:09:31 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:09:31 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan Message-ID: <577cc32f.e2ee.163cab3cf8e.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, On 2 Jun and 3 Jun we had 2 successfully tests on the UHF downlink of DSLWP-B after lunar orbit insertion. BY2HIT and PI9CAM team successfully decoded 39 GMSK packets from the satellite. SP5ULN and M0IEB also detected signals from the satellite with much smaller antenna, but the decode was not fully successful. Two weeks ago, when the satellites were launched on 20 May, UHF signals from both satellites was received by PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ and N6RFM. The subsequent tests are planned from 4 Jun 22:00 UTC to 5 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 5 Jun 08:00 UTC to 5 Jun 10:00 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt Updated version (20180531) of Live CD: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing VY TN & 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From jim at milnet.uk.net Mon Jun 4 12:17:10 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 13:17:10 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73/FUNcube-1 Operations Message-ID: Hi All, The spacecraft is now operating in autonomous mode. ie: full power tlm when in the sun and with the transponder on when in eclipse. We couldn't switch on Sunday evening as planned due to operator availability. It is planned to switch the transponder to continuous operation on Friday as usual. Have fun 73 Jim G3WGM and the FUNCube team From tasmac at w5pfg.us Mon Jun 4 13:42:32 2018 From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 08:42:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EL58hx Grid Expedition - THIS WEEK (7-9 June) Message-ID: <24df8392-64bc-8a1f-32bc-0d2975a33882@w5pfg.us> The activation of maidenhead grid square EL58hx by W5PFG & AC0RA is three days away. Even if you are not a grid or awards chaser, we would love to work you during this expedition via satellite. There are no permanent residents of this grid square, as most of it is open water in the Gulf of Mexico. What little land in EL58 is sandbar at mouth of the Mississippi River and accessible only by boat. See here: http://qthlocator.free.fr/index.php?locator=el58hx During the entire expedition, we will be land-based in the grid, meaning this activation will count as Louisiana, Plaquemines Parish (County), USA. It counts as Islands on the Air IOTA NA-168, Burwood Island. If you participate in the 2018 ARRL International Grid Chase, this might be your only opportunity to work EL58. Operating activity is estimated to begin around 23:00 UTC on 7-June. There are some variability in our arrival time and it will take us some time to prepare the site for operation. We will likely conclude operations around 15:00 UTC on 9-June. The list below are satellites we plan to utilize: FM: SO-50, AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 SSB: AO-7, FO-29, AO-73, XW-2A, XW-2B, XW-2C, XW-2F, CAS-4B Skeds are available for DX and stations greater than 6000 kms distance from EL58hx. Sked via direct email only to w5pfg at arrl dot net. Even if you worked the previous EL58 trip (K5L/mm), we'd love to work you again. This expedition we will use callsign W5PFG on satellites and AC0RA on 6m. We are hoping to work and confirm as many grid squares as possible, so if you want to work us from a nearby grid line to your home QTH, it is appreciated! AC0RA is responsible for the 6m side of our activation. You may hear either of us on 20m and 40m. Anyone who works us is encouraged to spot us. I may activate other grids in route to EL58, especially Wednesday, 6-June. I'll try to announce those via Twitter @w5pfg but it may be on short notice. 73, Clayton W5PFG From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 16:39:28 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:39:28 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan In-Reply-To: <577cc32f.e2ee.163cab3cf8e.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <577cc32f.e2ee.163cab3cf8e.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: <3FC4CC60-B3FA-42C4-A76F-100A2B351761@gmail.com> Good Evening, Congratulations to all OM?s mentioned in Wei's e-mail and to her and the team in China who made this possible. Quite a challenge & success really, I am still struggling with Unbuntu and other stuff this side and hopefully all will work out well, in such case will inform through the BB. Will try JT4G tonight, rig on automatic mode due to late (actually early hours this side) hours. Grand Bravo! 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 4, 2018, at 4:09 PM, ??? wrote: > > Hi OMs, > > > On 2 Jun and 3 Jun we had 2 successfully tests on the UHF downlink of DSLWP-B after lunar orbit insertion. BY2HIT and PI9CAM team successfully decoded 39 GMSK packets from the satellite. SP5ULN and M0IEB also detected signals from the satellite with much smaller antenna, but the decode was not fully successful. > > > Two weeks ago, when the satellites were launched on 20 May, UHF signals from both satellites was received by PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ and N6RFM. > > > The subsequent tests are planned from 4 Jun 22:00 UTC to 5 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 5 Jun 08:00 UTC to 5 Jun 10:00 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. > > > Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > > > Updated version (20180531) of Live CD: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing > > > VY TN & 73! > > > Wei BG2BHC > > > > > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nickhart at usa.net Mon Jun 4 18:02:56 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 11:02:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan Message-ID: <980wFDsB50688Set.1528135376@web13.cms.usa.net> Very exciting! ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 05:10:38 AM PDT From: ??? To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan Hi OMs, On 2 Jun and 3 Jun we had 2 successfully tests on the UHF downlink of DSLWP-B after lunar orbit insertion. BY2HIT and PI9CAM team successfully decoded 39 GMSK packets from the satellite. SP5ULN and M0IEB also detected signals from the satellite with much smaller antenna, but the decode was not fully successful. Two weeks ago, when the satellites were launched on 20 May, UHF signals from both satellites was received by PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ and N6RFM. The subsequent tests are planned from 4 Jun 22:00 UTC to 5 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 5 Jun 08:00 UTC to 5 Jun 10:00 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt Updated version (20180531) of Live CD: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing VY TN & 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 18:32:46 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 22:32:46 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan In-Reply-To: <980wFDsB50688Set.1528135376@web13.cms.usa.net> References: <980wFDsB50688Set.1528135376@web13.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <76D330CB-D55B-439B-90F1-4520C8503B33@gmail.com> Dear All, Succeeded to get the Unbubtu soft and all GNU app for DSWLP working today, thanks to all the for post/advices particularly to Wei, Dimitry & Mike which help a lot, thats the beauty of the BB (sharing info and knowledge). Still not ready for the GMSK but will take Scott advice seriously and put the rig and computers to listen to FT4G tonight, automatic mode as pass is in the middle of night this side. Hopefully will see something on the screen tomorrow morning. 73 Jean Marc (#B8DU) > On Jun 4, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > > Very exciting! > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 05:10:38 AM PDT > From: ??? > To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: [amsat-bb] First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and > Subsequent Test Plan > > Hi OMs, > > > On 2 Jun and 3 Jun we had 2 successfully tests on the UHF downlink of DSLWP-B > after lunar orbit insertion. BY2HIT and PI9CAM team successfully decoded 39 > GMSK packets from the satellite. SP5ULN and M0IEB also detected signals from > the satellite with much smaller antenna, but the decode was not fully > successful. > > > Two weeks ago, when the satellites were launched on 20 May, UHF signals from > both satellites was received by PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ and N6RFM. > > > The subsequent tests are planned from 4 Jun 22:00 UTC to 5 Jun 00:00 UTC, and > from 5 Jun 08:00 UTC to 5 Jun 10:00 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both > 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. > > > Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or > http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > > > Updated version (20180531) of Live CD: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing > > > > VY TN & 73! > > > Wei BG2BHC > > > > > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Mon Jun 4 23:11:31 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 19:11:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-04 23:00 UTC Message-ID: <163cd11e2b4-c8f-4aa6@webjas-vab227.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-04 23:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Exp. 54 back on earth! (***) Congratulations to all! (***) Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Anton Shkaplerov ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-04 23:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1231. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1180. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 54 back on earth (***) Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Anton Shkaplerov ? Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From airrj1 at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 00:48:26 2018 From: airrj1 at gmail.com (Robert Bragg) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 18:48:26 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] WY7AA Rover Activation Trip June 6-25 Message-ID: I am heading out for a summer road trip later this week with the old El Camino to attend the Hot Rod Power Tour. I will be traveling a strange winding route from WY to Indianapolis, then to the south from KY, TN, AL, GA, SC, NC, and back to TN. Followed by a side trip to Buffalo, NY before returning to Wyoming. The primary goal of the trip is the Power Tour, but I will be bringing the Arrow and the D72 along with me. I hope to activate as many grids as I can along the way. I will mostly be working AO-91 and AO-92. I won't be in the rarest grids ever, but I plan to be on back roads as much as possible and hopefully away from the cites when possible. I hope to get some good contacts and grids for you all. And I just want to give a big shout out to Sean KX9X, Patrick WD9EWK, and Doug N6UA for all the help getting me started. See you all on the birds. R.J. WY7AA P.S. I won't have much internet access, so I will try to put my plans on Twitter when I can, but it will be spotty. From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 05:20:53 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_Marc_Mompl=C3=A9?=) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 09:20:53 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: Dimitry, I get the same message about packet drop or RuntimeError: Connection refused, have you been able to solve this? Also the JT4 Flowchart does not seems to work. Reading the GNU Radio Tutorials to try to understand... 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) On 2 June 2018 at 21:26, Dimitry Borzenko <4z5cp at bezeqint.net> wrote: > Hello Wei and group. > Have checked new LiveCD- makes problem, FrontEnd DSLWP RXRTL loads 4 i7 > CPUs 90%, so demodulator doesn't works terminal show message about too many > packet drops..... > > de 4z5cp > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "???" > To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Sent: 31.05.2018 11:32:18 > Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 > > Hi OMs, >> >> >> We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to 31 >> May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. >> >> >> We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on >> 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher priority), >> and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs >> should be used. >> >> >> Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. >> >> >> The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, >> that's why UHF is not always on. >> >> >> >> Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslw >> p_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt >> >> >> Updated version of Live CD: >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3 >> c626L/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> Best Regards and 73! >> >> >> Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Tue Jun 5 11:48:04 2018 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:48:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] help yaesu g-5500 Message-ID: <008401d3fcc3$10a77ab0$31f67010$@bellsouth.net> Hello Amsat-ers My elevation rotator fails to move when using the manual controls intermittently. If I jog the control in the opposite direction momentarily the rotator works normally for the next few munities. The rotator fails to move in both the up or down direction. Help? Nick k5qxj From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 21:17:31 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:17:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: In my case, packet drops are caused by running out of system resources (CPU, memory). To allow me to run the essential parts of the decoders, I have disabled all unnecessary waterfalls, constellation GUI, etc. I also close any other apps running on my computer, including background apps like Dropbox. As for "Connection refused", if I am not mistaken that is when a decoder is started without the proxy application running. (You can certainly disable "KISS Encode PDU" & "Socket PDU" blocks if you would like to test those flowgraphs without a proxy connection!) If you would like help with the JT4 aspect, please provide more detail. FYI, for me it put too much burden on system resources. So, I have disabled those blocks that make audio-OUT available for use by WSJTx. Instead, I use a different SDR / different computer to listen for JT4G. 73! -Scott, K4KDR ============================== On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Jean Marc Mompl? wrote: > Dimitry, > > I get the same message about packet drop or RuntimeError: Connection > refused, have you been able to solve this? > > Also the JT4 Flowchart does not seems to work. > > Reading the GNU Radio Tutorials to try to understand... > > 73 > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > On 2 June 2018 at 21:26, Dimitry Borzenko <4z5cp at bezeqint.net> wrote: > > > Hello Wei and group. > > Have checked new LiveCD- makes problem, FrontEnd DSLWP RXRTL loads 4 i7 > > CPUs 90%, so demodulator doesn't works terminal show message about too > many > > packet drops..... > > > > de 4z5cp > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "???" > > To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > > Sent: 31.05.2018 11:32:18 > > Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 > > > > Hi OMs, > >> > >> > >> We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to > 31 > >> May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. > >> > >> > >> We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on > >> 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher > priority), > >> and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs > >> should be used. > >> > >> > >> Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. > >> > >> > >> The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, > >> that's why UHF is not always on. > >> > >> > >> > >> Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslw > >> p_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > >> > >> > >> Updated version of Live CD: > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3 > >> c626L/view?usp=sharing > >> > >> > >> Best Regards and 73! > >> > >> > >> Wei BG2BHC > >> > >> -- > >> > >> WEI Mingchuan > >> > >> > >> Research Center of Satellite Technology > >> Harbin Institute of Technology > >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Jun 5 21:30:20 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:30:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? Message-ID: <4dd4913f-85c8-a4c9-dc89-9e43a8bd114a@pobox.com> Hello all, I've been using (the most amazing) http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ WebSDR to listen to passes on the other side of the globe. I noticed that Fox-1A was announcing "Safe Mode" with what sounds like 9600 bps telemetry. Is this normal? I didn't catch the voice announcement, but I do have a WAV file of the telemetry. --- Zach N0ZGO From tomrava at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 21:35:55 2018 From: tomrava at gmail.com (Tommaso Ravaglioli) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 15:35:55 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] WY7AA Rover Activation Trip June 6-25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I read this morning about your trip and I promptly forgot about it. But as I am riding along route 66, I met some nice car with power ride signs, and all came to my mind. I have only a TH-F7 with me, which I choose over the TH-D7 as it has ssb hf reception (and is way smaller). I will try to follow your schedule. What is your twitter account? And by the way, which prefix letter should I add to my Italian callsign? As far as I can understand, being currently in NM my callsign should be IZ2QYZ/K5 73 de IZ2QYZ Il lun 4 giu 2018, 18:52 Robert Bragg ha scritto: > I am heading out for a summer road trip later this week with the old El > Camino to attend the Hot Rod Power Tour. I will be traveling a strange > winding route from WY to Indianapolis, then to the south from KY, TN, AL, > GA, SC, NC, and back to TN. Followed by a side trip to Buffalo, NY before > returning to Wyoming. > > The primary goal of the trip is the Power Tour, but I will be bringing the > Arrow and the D72 along with me. I hope to activate as many grids as I can > along the way. I will mostly be working AO-91 and AO-92. I won't be in > the rarest grids ever, but I plan to be on back roads as much as possible > and hopefully away from the cites when possible. > > I hope to get some good contacts and grids for you all. And I just want to > give a big shout out to Sean KX9X, Patrick WD9EWK, and Doug N6UA for all > the help getting me started. > > See you all on the birds. > > R.J. WY7AA > > P.S. I won't have much internet access, so I will try to put my plans on > Twitter when I can, but it will be spotty. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Tue Jun 5 21:49:59 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:49:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? In-Reply-To: <4dd4913f-85c8-a4c9-dc89-9e43a8bd114a@pobox.com> References: <4dd4913f-85c8-a4c9-dc89-9e43a8bd114a@pobox.com> Message-ID: <02a401d3fd17$26d206d0$74761470$@mindspring.com> It has been dropping into Safe Mode at the end of eclipses for a little while now. It's a planned feature to protect the batteries from excessive discharge. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:30 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? Hello all, I've been using (the most amazing) http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ WebSDR to listen to passes on the other side of the globe. I noticed that Fox-1A was announcing "Safe Mode" with what sounds like 9600 bps telemetry. Is this normal? I didn't catch the voice announcement, but I do have a WAV file of the telemetry. --- Zach N0ZGO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wandtosborne at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 02:20:19 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:20:19 +1200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun KG-UV8D Message-ID: <65842029CE68469BB6E86DD07303CDC7@OsbornesPC> Hi Folks, Is anyone using one of these on the FM Sats? If so how well does it perform? It appears to pretty much the same as the KG-UV9D but without the extra wideband receiver ranges. It seems to be able to do full duplex. 73, Terry Osborne ZL2BAC From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 02:28:49 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:28:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun KG-UV8D In-Reply-To: <65842029CE68469BB6E86DD07303CDC7@OsbornesPC> References: <65842029CE68469BB6E86DD07303CDC7@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: See Patrick WD9EWK's posts here: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/wouxun-kg-uv8d-full-duplex-on-ao-85-yes.502441/ https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/wouxun-kg-uv8d-for-so-50-sure-but-not-full-duplex-by-itself.437813/ He reviews a lot of the Chinese radios and posts his results on the QRZ.com forums. I think the consensus is they work okay without desense in V/u on the Fox birds but not in U/v with SO-50. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne < wandtosborne at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Is anyone using one of these on the FM Sats? > If so how well does it perform? > It appears to pretty much the same as the KG-UV9D but without the extra > wideband receiver ranges. > > It seems to be able to do full duplex. > > 73, > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jun 6 02:45:02 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 02:45:02 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun KG-UV8D In-Reply-To: <65842029CE68469BB6E86DD07303CDC7@OsbornesPC> References: <65842029CE68469BB6E86DD07303CDC7@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: Hi Terry! The KG-UV8D can work the AMSAT Fox-1 satellites with 70cm uplinks full-duplex, but not do full-duplex on SO-50 with its 2m uplink. Even though the KG-UV9D has a receiver with much more coverage than the KG-UV8D, I found that the KG-UV9D (this also includes the KG-UV9D Plus) has a better and cleaner receiver for FM satellite downlinks than any variant of the KG-UV8D. I have not tried any of the new dual-band Chinese-made FM/DMR HTs, but for the rest of the crop of dual-band HTs from China I think the KG-UV9D (any variant) is probably still the best performer for FM satellite work. John KG4AKV already mentioned a couple of links where I wrote about the KG-UV8D on AO-85. I also wrote about it on this mailing list in late 2015 around the time AO-85's launch. My comments about these Wouxun HTs, along with two other Chinese-made HTs, appeared on this list. A summary, which has links to the messages covering each radio I tried, can be found at: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-December/056269.html After seeing that the KG-UV9D performed better than the KG-UV8D, I sold the KG-UV8D. I still have the KG-UV9D, and periodically use it for FM satellite work. Should you go with either Wouxun HT, be aware that the radios always have a small current draw - even when powered off. If you don't use the radio all the time, it would be advisable to either remove the battery from the back of the radio, or put a piece of paper between the battery pack and the contacts on the back of the radio. This will ensure the pack remains charged and ready to go, instead of possibly ending up with a dead battery pack at the same time you want to work a satellite pass, or use a repeater. Good luck, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Wendy and Terry Osborne < wandtosborne at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Is anyone using one of these on the FM Sats? > If so how well does it perform? > It appears to pretty much the same as the KG-UV9D but without the extra > wideband receiver ranges. > > It seems to be able to do full duplex. > > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Wed Jun 6 03:23:55 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:23:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" Message-ID: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to try and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per se. I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. Mention is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 manuals, I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and how that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS contacts, but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. Wisdom please, 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jun 6 03:39:11 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 03:39:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Tom, When you are in the screen to send a message to a call sign, you press the F key to bring up the list of "phrases" (stored messages). Then you scroll up or down using either the round button or VFO knob to highlight the message you want, then press the right side of the round button. This puts the phrase into the message text line. If you have not stored any of these messages, either using the keypad or the Kenwood software, the F key won't bring anything up while you are trying to compose a message. The printed manual in the TH-D72A box doesn't address these messages. You have to either use the larger manual on the CD, or you can download the larger manual from Kenwood: http://manual.kenwood.com/files/4ff15b9c0988f.pdf I found the phrases covered on page 65 of this 75-page PDF. If printed out, it would be on page 22 of the APRS section of the manual. I apologize if you were hoping for a complete step-by- step instruction in my FalconSat-3 article that was in a recent AMSAT Journal. Had I done that, the article would have been much longer, and parts of it would read like a Kenwood manual. I hope that this message, taken with the TH-D72's manuals and what you have already read, helps you get set up to exchange messages via FalconSat-3 soon. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 AM, wrote: > I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to try > and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat > Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per se. > I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. Mention > is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 > manuals, > I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and how > that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several > phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get > entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for > sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS > contacts, > but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. > > Wisdom please, > > 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > EM12ms > > ? > From ai6do at yahoo.com Wed Jun 6 03:40:55 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 03:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1602384721.829697.1528256455778@mail.yahoo.com> Are you able to get to the point where you have a blank message open and ready to accept input? If so, you hit F then the number of the message (1 through 8) to paste in the contents of that Phrase at the current location of the cursor. You store the phrases in the APRS menu item 3P0 ("Phrases") 73, Ryan AI6DO On Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 8:25:12 PM PDT, tjschuessler at verizon.net wrote: I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing.? I have been wanting to try and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a.? I read Pat Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per se. I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject.? Mention is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 manuals, I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and how that gets into the string that is sent.? I see the ability to set several phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for sending).? I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS contacts, but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. Wisdom please, 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From Saguaroastro at cox.net Wed Jun 6 03:50:17 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:50:17 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" Message-ID: <75p8e50mcnxybmmlc2j5xjtv.1528257017855@email.android.com> Tom, With a message open and your cursor in the text field, press F(funtion key) that will pull up your list of user phrases that you have previously saved. Press the number of the phrase you wish to insert and it will paste it into the message text. Add anything else you want to the message (within character limits) and send. Easy least. Personally I have these phrases stored, which are enough to cover a packet QSO: 1: CQ De K7TEJ DM34 2: K7TEJ DM33 R QSL? 3: K7TEJ 73! I actually have the same set saved with different grids I operate from and a set with a field day exchange. Hope this helps Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 5, 2018, at 20:23, tjschuessler at verizon.net wrote: I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to try and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per se. I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. Mention is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 manuals, I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and how that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS contacts, but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. Wisdom please, 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tjschuessler at verizon.net Wed Jun 6 04:00:02 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 23:00:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A31D81E-D079-4168-B918-D149EC79F693@verizon.net> Thank you Patrick and also to Rick for your responses. I am looking forward to giving this a try and have a successful cure sellable before field day. A lot of different concepts and procedures to absorb. 73 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2018, at 22:39, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > > Tom, > > When you are in the screen to send a message to a > call sign, you press the F key to bring up the list > of "phrases" (stored messages). Then you scroll up > or down using either the round button or VFO knob > to highlight the message you want, then press the > right side of the round button. This puts the phrase > into the message text line. If you have not stored > any of these messages, either using the keypad or > the Kenwood software, the F key won't bring anything > up while you are trying to compose a message. > > The printed manual in the TH-D72A box doesn't address > these messages. You have to either use the larger manual > on the CD, or you can download the larger manual from > Kenwood: > > http://manual.kenwood.com/files/4ff15b9c0988f.pdf > > I found the phrases covered on page 65 of this 75-page > PDF. If printed out, it would be on page 22 of the APRS > section of the manual. > > I apologize if you were hoping for a complete step-by- > step instruction in my FalconSat-3 article that was in > a recent AMSAT Journal. Had I done that, the article > would have been much longer, and parts of it would read > like a Kenwood manual. I hope that this message, taken > with the TH-D72's manuals and what you have already > read, helps you get set up to exchange messages via > FalconSat-3 soon. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 AM, wrote: >> I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to try >> and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat >> Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per se. >> I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. Mention >> is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 manuals, >> I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and how >> that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several >> phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get >> entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for >> sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS contacts, >> but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. >> >> Wisdom please, >> >> 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. >> >> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP >> EM12ms >> >> ? From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 04:12:20 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 08:12:20 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: <6E36D27C-6D01-439A-AF66-EC252E7D11C3@gmail.com> Scott, All corrected this side with the help of Wei & Dimitry (thanks to them), just stupid things like proxy not running, wrong file path in Program Tracking CC etc? About the JT4: I don?t see it on the GNU drop down it spite it is in the Examples directory. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 6, 2018, at 1:17 AM, Scott wrote: > > In my case, packet drops are caused by running out of system resources > (CPU, memory). > > To allow me to run the essential parts of the decoders, I have disabled all > unnecessary waterfalls, constellation GUI, etc. I also close any other > apps running on my computer, including background apps like Dropbox. > > As for "Connection refused", if I am not mistaken that is when a decoder is > started without the proxy application running. (You can certainly disable > "KISS Encode PDU" & "Socket PDU" blocks if you would like to test those > flowgraphs without a proxy connection!) > > If you would like help with the JT4 aspect, please provide more detail. > FYI, for me it put too much burden on system resources. So, I have > disabled those blocks that make audio-OUT available for use by WSJTx. > > Instead, I use a different SDR / different computer to listen for JT4G. > > 73! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ============================== > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Jean Marc Mompl? > wrote: > >> Dimitry, >> >> I get the same message about packet drop or RuntimeError: Connection >> refused, have you been able to solve this? >> >> Also the JT4 Flowchart does not seems to work. >> >> Reading the GNU Radio Tutorials to try to understand... >> >> 73 >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> >> On 2 June 2018 at 21:26, Dimitry Borzenko <4z5cp at bezeqint.net> wrote: >> >>> Hello Wei and group. >>> Have checked new LiveCD- makes problem, FrontEnd DSLWP RXRTL loads 4 i7 >>> CPUs 90%, so demodulator doesn't works terminal show message about too >> many >>> packet drops..... >>> >>> de 4z5cp >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "???" >>> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" >>> Sent: 31.05.2018 11:32:18 >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 >>> >>> Hi OMs, >>>> >>>> >>>> We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to >> 31 >>>> May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. >>>> >>>> >>>> We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on >>>> 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher >> priority), >>>> and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs >>>> should be used. >>>> >>>> >>>> Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. >>>> >>>> >>>> The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, >>>> that's why UHF is not always on. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslw >>>> p_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt >>>> >>>> >>>> Updated version of Live CD: >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3 >>>> c626L/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards and 73! >>>> >>>> >>>> Wei BG2BHC >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> WEI Mingchuan >>>> >>>> >>>> Research Center of Satellite Technology >>>> Harbin Institute of Technology >>>> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >>>> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jun 6 04:19:49 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 04:19:49 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: <4A31D81E-D079-4168-B918-D149EC79F693@verizon.net> References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> <4A31D81E-D079-4168-B918-D149EC79F693@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi Tom! FalconSat-3 takes a little more to set up on a D72, but it is currently our only orbiting digipeater on 24/7. NO-84 is occasionally on, and maybe we can hope for its batteries to be charged enough so a command station can turn the digipeater on for Field Day weekend. If you have some experience with exchanging messages through a digipeater, packet may actually be the easiest way to get a satellite QSO and the 100-point bonus under the ARRL rules. For Field Day, I will put both my Field Day exchange (normally 1B AZ) and my grid in the messages. I have worked stations on Field Day weekend who are only interested in grids, and I am usually not in my home grid DM43 for Field Day. Once you get your radio set up, go ahead and try it on some passes before Field Day - the sooner, the better. :-) There have been some stations on from California like AI6DO and KB6LTY regularly, and KB6IGK is occasionally on from Texas. I was on over the last weekend, from a hamfest on Friday and at home Sunday. We can help get you going with some QSOs in advance of Field Day. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:00 AM, Tom Schuessler wrote: > Thank you Patrick and also to Rick for your responses. I am looking > forward to giving this a try and have a successful cure sellable before > field day. A lot of different concepts and procedures to absorb. > > 73 > > From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 05:09:45 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:09:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: <6E36D27C-6D01-439A-AF66-EC252E7D11C3@gmail.com> References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <6E36D27C-6D01-439A-AF66-EC252E7D11C3@gmail.com> Message-ID: The latest version of demod_dslwp_gmsk_b0_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc from https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp includes blocks in the upper-right corner that may be disabled by default. If enabled, the "Band Pass Filter", "Complex to Real", & "Audio Sink" blocks will make demodulated audio available to your system. (If using the Live CD version, I don't know if these blocks are available -- I can only speak to the software running on a dedicated system) >From there, much like a Virtual Audio Cable in Windows, you would use Pulse Audio (pavucontrol) to route that audio OUT to the WSJTx application running on your system. As I mentioned before, my system is not nearly powerful enough to handle all that processing in addition to what is required to run the DSLWP front-end and decoder flowgraphs in GNU Radio. But if your system IS powerful enough, that is one way to provide WSJTx with the "B0" audio from 435.400 in hopes that it might decode some JT4G! Please note that Pulse Audio and WSJTx are not necessarily installed by default on any given linux system. So, they would have to be installed to be available to you. -Scott, K4KDR =========================== On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Jean Marc Momple < jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote: > Scott, > > All corrected this side with the help of Wei & Dimitry (thanks to them), > just stupid things like proxy not running, wrong file path in Program > Tracking CC etc? > > About the JT4: I don?t see it on the GNU drop down it spite it is in the > Examples directory. > > 73 > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > On Jun 6, 2018, at 1:17 AM, Scott wrote: > > > > In my case, packet drops are caused by running out of system resources > > (CPU, memory). > > > > To allow me to run the essential parts of the decoders, I have disabled > all > > unnecessary waterfalls, constellation GUI, etc. I also close any other > > apps running on my computer, including background apps like Dropbox. > > > > As for "Connection refused", if I am not mistaken that is when a decoder > is > > started without the proxy application running. (You can certainly > disable > > "KISS Encode PDU" & "Socket PDU" blocks if you would like to test those > > flowgraphs without a proxy connection!) > > > > If you would like help with the JT4 aspect, please provide more detail. > > FYI, for me it put too much burden on system resources. So, I have > > disabled those blocks that make audio-OUT available for use by WSJTx. > > > > Instead, I use a different SDR / different computer to listen for JT4G. > > > > 73! > > > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Jean Marc Mompl? < > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com > >> wrote: > > > >> Dimitry, > >> > >> I get the same message about packet drop or RuntimeError: Connection > >> refused, have you been able to solve this? > >> > >> Also the JT4 Flowchart does not seems to work. > >> > >> Reading the GNU Radio Tutorials to try to understand... > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> > >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> > >> On 2 June 2018 at 21:26, Dimitry Borzenko <4z5cp at bezeqint.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Wei and group. > >>> Have checked new LiveCD- makes problem, FrontEnd DSLWP RXRTL loads 4 i7 > >>> CPUs 90%, so demodulator doesn't works terminal show message about too > >> many > >>> packet drops..... > >>> > >>> de 4z5cp > >>> > >>> ------ Original Message ------ > >>> From: "???" > >>> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > >>> Sent: 31.05.2018 11:32:18 > >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 > >>> > >>> Hi OMs, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to > >> 31 > >>>> May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G > on > >>>> 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher > >> priority), > >>>> and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs > >>>> should be used. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, > >>>> that's why UHF is not always on. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslw > >>>> p_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Updated version of Live CD: > >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3 > >>>> c626L/view?usp=sharing > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Best Regards and 73! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Wei BG2BHC > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> WEI Mingchuan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Research Center of Satellite Technology > >>>> Harbin Institute of Technology > >>>> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > >>>> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From wa4sca at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 07:39:41 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 02:39:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control References: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com> <5B0ECBF1.3000403@t-online.de> Message-ID: <000101d3fd69$88ed41c0$9ac7c540$@gmail.com> Quick progress report. After deleting KB4103718 and resetting the rotor position change to 3 degrees, I have not seen a stall in a week. I will open that out a degree at a time, and see what if anything happens. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- ; <'APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG' ; 'AMSAT- Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far nothing <<> determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in < recent updates. <<> <<> 73, <<> <<> Alan <<> WA4SCA <<> <<> <<> <-----Original Message----- <<> <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> <_______________________________________________ <<> AMSAT- <<> <<> _______________________________________________ <<> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 10:40:53 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_Marc_Mompl=C3=A9?=) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:40:53 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 In-Reply-To: References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <6E36D27C-6D01-439A-AF66-EC252E7D11C3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Scott, Many thanks for the hint I will try this evening as at work presently. FYI: I am using a dedicated test-PC for the Live CD presently (as very new to Ubuntu/GNU and already break it a few times in the past week, learning the hard way Hi!), therefore if I can output the audio to my station PC it will be perfect for testing. Will use the test-PC for the Live CD, SDR and Doppler correction and the shack PC for FT4G decoding and rotor control. I already have WJST-X, PCSAT32/SuM for antenna control, GPS clock & other decoders running it simultaneously without issue. Will feedback on the BB. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) On 6 June 2018 at 09:09, Scott wrote: > The latest version of demod_dslwp_gmsk_b0_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc from > https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp includes blocks in the upper-right > corner that may be disabled by default. If enabled, the "Band Pass > Filter", "Complex to Real", & "Audio Sink" blocks will make demodulated > audio available to your system. > > (If using the Live CD version, I don't know if these blocks are available > -- I can only speak to the software running on a dedicated system) > > From there, much like a Virtual Audio Cable in Windows, you would use Pulse > Audio (pavucontrol) to route that audio OUT to the WSJTx application > running on your system. > > As I mentioned before, my system is not nearly powerful enough to handle > all that processing in addition to what is required to run the DSLWP > front-end and decoder flowgraphs in GNU Radio. But if your system IS > powerful enough, that is one way to provide WSJTx with the "B0" audio from > 435.400 in hopes that it might decode some JT4G! > > Please note that Pulse Audio and WSJTx are not necessarily installed by > default on any given linux system. So, they would have to be installed to > be available to you. > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > =========================== > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Jean Marc Momple < > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Scott, > > > > All corrected this side with the help of Wei & Dimitry (thanks to them), > > just stupid things like proxy not running, wrong file path in Program > > Tracking CC etc? > > > > About the JT4: I don?t see it on the GNU drop down it spite it is in the > > Examples directory. > > > > 73 > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > > > On Jun 6, 2018, at 1:17 AM, Scott wrote: > > > > > > In my case, packet drops are caused by running out of system resources > > > (CPU, memory). > > > > > > To allow me to run the essential parts of the decoders, I have disabled > > all > > > unnecessary waterfalls, constellation GUI, etc. I also close any > other > > > apps running on my computer, including background apps like Dropbox. > > > > > > As for "Connection refused", if I am not mistaken that is when a > decoder > > is > > > started without the proxy application running. (You can certainly > > disable > > > "KISS Encode PDU" & "Socket PDU" blocks if you would like to test those > > > flowgraphs without a proxy connection!) > > > > > > If you would like help with the JT4 aspect, please provide more detail. > > > FYI, for me it put too much burden on system resources. So, I have > > > disabled those blocks that make audio-OUT available for use by WSJTx. > > > > > > Instead, I use a different SDR / different computer to listen for JT4G. > > > > > > 73! > > > > > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Jean Marc Mompl? < > > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> Dimitry, > > >> > > >> I get the same message about packet drop or RuntimeError: Connection > > >> refused, have you been able to solve this? > > >> > > >> Also the JT4 Flowchart does not seems to work. > > >> > > >> Reading the GNU Radio Tutorials to try to understand... > > >> > > >> 73 > > >> > > >> > > >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > >> > > >> On 2 June 2018 at 21:26, Dimitry Borzenko <4z5cp at bezeqint.net> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello Wei and group. > > >>> Have checked new LiveCD- makes problem, FrontEnd DSLWP RXRTL loads 4 > i7 > > >>> CPUs 90%, so demodulator doesn't works terminal show message about > too > > >> many > > >>> packet drops..... > > >>> > > >>> de 4z5cp > > >>> > > >>> ------ Original Message ------ > > >>> From: "???" > > >>> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > > >>> Sent: 31.05.2018 11:32:18 > > >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3 > > >>> > > >>> Hi OMs, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC > to > > >> 31 > > >>>> May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G > > on > > >>>> 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher > > >> priority), > > >>>> and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod > grcs > > >>>> should be used. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than > expected, > > >>>> that's why UHF is not always on. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Tracking file updates can be found on: > https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslw > > >>>> p_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b. > txt > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Updated version of Live CD: > > >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3 > > >>>> c626L/view?usp=sharing > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Best Regards and 73! > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Wei BG2BHC > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> > > >>>> WEI Mingchuan > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Research Center of Satellite Technology > > >>>> Harbin Institute of Technology > > >>>> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > > >>>> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 13:44:37 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:44:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: As an FYI /additional resource: https://andrewbnortham.com/ke8fzt/falconsat/ I do not know how it rates with the others, but figured I'd share. 73, Don KB2YSI On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 23:25 wrote: > I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to try > and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat > Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per se. > I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. Mention > is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 > manuals, > I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and how > that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several > phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get > entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for > sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS > contacts, > but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. > > Wisdom please, > > 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > EM12ms > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Wed Jun 6 14:08:57 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 10:08:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? In-Reply-To: <02a401d3fd17$26d206d0$74761470$@mindspring.com> References: <4dd4913f-85c8-a4c9-dc89-9e43a8bd114a@pobox.com> <02a401d3fd17$26d206d0$74761470$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <000001d3fd9f$e977db50$bc6791f0$@mindspring.com> As a follow-up, if the satellite has an IHU reset while in auto safe mode, it reboots to safe mode. This apparently happened last night or yesterday. I commanded it back to Transponder mode this morning. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:50 PM To: 'Zach Metzinger' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? It has been dropping into Safe Mode at the end of eclipses for a little while now. It's a planned feature to protect the batteries from excessive discharge. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:30 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? Hello all, I've been using (the most amazing) http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ WebSDR to listen to passes on the other side of the globe. I noticed that Fox-1A was announcing "Safe Mode" with what sounds like 9600 bps telemetry. Is this normal? I didn't catch the voice announcement, but I do have a WAV file of the telemetry. --- Zach N0ZGO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 14:13:30 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 10:13:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: If it helps, you can see me using user phrases with the ISS digipeater in this video: https://youtu.be/nhv7oz_El80?t=249 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > As an FYI /additional resource: > https://andrewbnortham.com/ke8fzt/falconsat/ > > I do not know how it rates with the others, but figured I'd share. > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 23:25 wrote: > > > I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to > try > > and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat > > Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per > se. > > I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. > Mention > > is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 > > manuals, > > I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and > how > > that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several > > phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get > > entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for > > sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS > > contacts, > > but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. > > > > Wisdom please, > > > > 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. > > > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > > EM12ms > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zleffke at vt.edu Wed Jun 6 14:17:33 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 10:17:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? In-Reply-To: <000001d3fd9f$e977db50$bc6791f0$@mindspring.com> References: <4dd4913f-85c8-a4c9-dc89-9e43a8bd114a@pobox.com> <02a401d3fd17$26d206d0$74761470$@mindspring.com> <000001d3fd9f$e977db50$bc6791f0$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <17996f15-407a-ce9a-25b4-5cfded42ef09@vt.edu> Out of curiosity, is there a state diagram anywhere that is publicly available for any or all of the Fox Series, showing the various potential modes and the causes for state transition?? I'm mainly interested in using it (or them if there are variants available) as an introductory teaching/training tool for students getting into cubesat development and writing code for flight computers.? I've got my own made up versions of what I might guess an overall state diagram might look like and the various causes of state transition for a cubesat (IHU reset, ground command, bus/battery voltage dropping below thresholds, etc.), but it would be much better if I could show a real world example. Thanks in advance! Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 6/6/2018 10:08 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > As a follow-up, if the satellite has an IHU reset while in auto safe mode, > it reboots to safe mode. This apparently happened last night or yesterday. I > commanded it back to Transponder mode this morning. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:50 PM > To: 'Zach Metzinger' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? > > It has been dropping into Safe Mode at the end of eclipses for a little > while now. It's a planned feature to protect the batteries from excessive > discharge. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:30 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? > > > Hello all, > > I've been using (the most amazing) http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ WebSDR to listen to > passes on the other side of the globe. > > I noticed that Fox-1A was announcing "Safe Mode" with what sounds like > 9600 bps telemetry. Is this normal? > > I didn't catch the voice announcement, but I do have a WAV file of the > telemetry. > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jun 6 16:36:26 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:36:26 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] D72 to Falconsat-3 "User Phrases" In-Reply-To: References: <007001d3fd45$cd7da290$6878e7b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi Don! The web page Andrew KE8FZT is a great resource for setting up a D72 for FalconSat-3's digipeater. I referenced his site in my AMSAT Journal article, as he had the same settings I used when I got started with this satellite - and he already had screenshots from the radio. Why reinvent the proverbial wheel? :-) The easiest way to set up a D72 for FalconSat-3's digipeater is probably with the Kenwood MCP-4A software and COM port driver on a Windows PC. Then you aren't having to go through the menus on a small screen, and you don't have to enter messages and text like you would enter an SMS message on a flip-phone (multiple presses of a key to get a particular character). All of this *can* be done with the D72's front panel, but there is a better way through the software. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > As an FYI /additional resource: > https://andrewbnortham.com/ke8fzt/falconsat/ > > I do not know how it rates with the others, but figured I'd share. > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 23:25 wrote: > > > I am confused, which is not an uncommon thing. I have been wanting to > try > > and figure out how to work Falxonsat-3 via my Kenwood D72a. I read Pat > > Stoddard's AMSAT Journal article but he does not do a step by step per > se. > > I also read KB6IGK and WD9EWKs other article on the same subject. > Mention > > is made on setting "User phrases". Looking at several different D72 > > manuals, > > I cannot for the life of me, see how one selects the phrase to use and > how > > that gets into the string that is sent. I see the ability to set several > > phrases from inside RT systems D72 menu program (Not sure how those get > > entered in manual radio programming), nor do I see any instructions for > > sending). I watched a YouTube video of a guy making Falconst APRS > > contacts, > > but no explanation on how he got the phrases out. > > > > Wisdom please, > > > > 73 and thanks for the patient mentoring. > > > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > > EM12ms > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From martha at amsat.org Wed Jun 6 16:54:49 2018 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:54:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] No Phone Serve Message-ID: The AMSAT office has had no phone service today. COMCAST says they expect it to be up by 3:00PM. -- 73- Martha From robert.ehresman at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 19:13:49 2018 From: robert.ehresman at gmail.com (Robert Ehresman) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:13:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP: First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan Message-ID: Folks: It has been reported that some few hams have received DSLWP signals and some fewer have decoded GMSK packets following Lunar Orbit insertion. . It might be useful for the rest of us to hear what the successful configurations are (receiver, antenna, preamp, etc). I believe having a sense of what the minimum successful system gain and Noise Figure required would help the rest of us get something working. 73; Bob KV4PC From wa7dxz at aol.com Wed Jun 6 19:23:14 2018 From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:23:14 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections Message-ID: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector? for the vhf side.Im ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 19:53:54 2018 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:53:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections In-Reply-To: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: I strongly suggest buying all high-quality VHF and UHF cables with N-type-M connectors pre-installed. It is much easier to buy a PL-259-M to N-Type-F and attached it to the radio. Good Luck, 73-Paul-W2HRO On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB wrote: > As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 20:10:22 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:10:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections In-Reply-To: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: I would get cables made up with the appropriate connectors and avoid adapters. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S9 On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB wrote: > As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is > that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im > ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter > (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w3ab at yahoo.com Wed Jun 6 20:11:39 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:11:39 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections In-Reply-To: References: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <76c813f7-b776-42d4-9fe0-76b5a7233e0a@yahoo.com> In my little world where every little bit of loss is considered, and adapters get lost or fail, I'd go with the connectors you need installed as a prime on the cables. They are easy to install and should you experience a failure, you'd know how to repair/replace. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 6, 2018, 12:55, at 12:55, Paul Andrews wrote: >I strongly suggest buying all high-quality VHF and UHF cables with >N-type-M connectors pre-installed. > >It is much easier to buy a PL-259-M to N-Type-F and attached it to the >radio. > >Good Luck, > >73-Paul-W2HRO > > > >On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB > wrote: >> As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, >is that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf >side.Im ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an >adapter (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Jun 6 21:03:13 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:03:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT NO84 back up Message-ID: DK3WN, Mike informs me that he has commanded PSAT digipeater back on. It has been in safe mode for almost a month and so, maybe it is time to bring it back on line and hope that it stays up through Field Day. Our Naval Academy ground station has been moved to a basement building for 18 months while renovations are in progress, so we are off line and dependent on our excellent volunteer station DK3WN for the honors... Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) FalconSat-3 takes a little more to set up on a D72, but it is currently our only orbiting digipeater on 24/7. NO-84 is occasionally on, and maybe we can hope for its batteries to be charged enough so a command station can turn the digipeater on for Field Day weekend.... From k8bl at ameritech.net Wed Jun 6 22:00:47 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 22:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections In-Reply-To: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <459768635.1444475.1528322447383@mail.yahoo.com> Bob, As others have replied, avoiding adapters is the best advice. This is especially true in outside weather and wherever the connection is subject to movement or vibration. Personally, I've used a few in the shack on permanently mounted equipment for decades without a problem as an expedient or cheapness/laziness. GL/73, Bob K8BL ________________________________ From: wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:23 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From peter at magicbug.co.uk Wed Jun 6 21:56:30 2018 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 22:56:30 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections In-Reply-To: References: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: Agree with Dave on this one, if you can't make the cables buy them with the correct connectors. You might only be talking 0.0*dB in losses but it also removes a point of failure. Peter, 2M0SQL On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 21:11, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > I would get cables made up with the appropriate connectors and avoid > adapters. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > > Sent from my Galaxy S9 > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is > > that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im > > ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter > > (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w3ab at yahoo.com Wed Jun 6 23:31:26 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 16:31:26 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections In-Reply-To: References: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: Exactly Peter. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 6, 2018, 16:29, at 16:29, "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" wrote: >Agree with Dave on this one, if you can't make the cables buy them with >the >correct connectors. > >You might only be talking 0.0*dB in losses but it also removes a point >of >failure. > >Peter, 2M0SQL > >On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 21:11, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > >> I would get cables made up with the appropriate connectors and avoid >> adapters. >> >> Dave-KB1PVH >> >> >> Sent from my Galaxy S9 >> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >> > As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, >is >> > that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf >side.Im >> > ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an >adapter >> > (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> > expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >views of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: >http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hugois at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 23:41:09 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:41:09 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 Message-ID: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: Sat. Xmit Tone SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Thu Jun 7 00:25:49 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:25:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. Got another radio so you can work full duplex? 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: Sat. Xmit Tone SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From burns at fisher.cc Thu Jun 7 01:51:39 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:51:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? In-Reply-To: <17996f15-407a-ce9a-25b4-5cfded42ef09@vt.edu> References: <4dd4913f-85c8-a4c9-dc89-9e43a8bd114a@pobox.com> <02a401d3fd17$26d206d0$74761470$@mindspring.com> <000001d3fd9f$e977db50$bc6791f0$@mindspring.com> <17996f15-407a-ce9a-25b4-5cfded42ef09@vt.edu> Message-ID: BTW, the situation is a bit more complicated than just resetting while in auto-safe mode. I tried that with the AO-85 software and could not reproduce that behavior. I also think that I've seen it NOT happen on AO-85. There has to be some timing window that I have not found. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: > Out of curiosity, is there a state diagram anywhere that is publicly > available for any or all of the Fox Series, showing the various potential > modes and the causes for state transition? I'm mainly interested in using > it (or them if there are variants available) as an introductory > teaching/training tool for students getting into cubesat development and > writing code for flight computers. I've got my own made up versions of > what I might guess an overall state diagram might look like and the various > causes of state transition for a cubesat (IHU reset, ground command, > bus/battery voltage dropping below thresholds, etc.), but it would be much > better if I could show a real world example. > > > Thanks in advance! > > Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > > On 6/6/2018 10:08 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > >> As a follow-up, if the satellite has an IHU reset while in auto safe mode, >> it reboots to safe mode. This apparently happened last night or >> yesterday. I >> commanded it back to Transponder mode this morning. >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Andrew >> Glasbrenner >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:50 PM >> To: 'Zach Metzinger' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 >> 21:25? >> >> It has been dropping into Safe Mode at the end of eclipses for a little >> while now. It's a planned feature to protect the batteries from excessive >> discharge. >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:30 PM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25? >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I've been using (the most amazing) http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ WebSDR to >> listen to >> passes on the other side of the globe. >> >> I noticed that Fox-1A was announcing "Safe Mode" with what sounds like >> 9600 bps telemetry. Is this normal? >> >> I didn't catch the voice announcement, but I do have a WAV file of the >> telemetry. >> >> --- Zach >> N0ZGO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >> all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >> all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kd7lee at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 04:07:55 2018 From: kd7lee at gmail.com (Daniel Wight) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:07:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. 73, Daniel, KD7LEE On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM > sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear > while transmitting. > > Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, > Jr. > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > > I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all > the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my > Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. > However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful > with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked > my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: > Sat. Xmit Tone > SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for > doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, > 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > > Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing > something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 04:23:31 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:23:31 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: This is incorrect. This would be true for V/u but is reverse for U/v as Doppler is making the apparent received frequency at the satellite higher as the satellite is flying towards the ground based transmitter. 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:14 PM Daniel Wight wrote: > Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & > work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start > at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite > 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during > approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the > satellite passes. > > 73, > > Daniel, KD7LEE > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner > wrote: > > > You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM > > sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't > hear > > while transmitting. > > > > Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, > > Jr. > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > > > > I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear > all > > the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on > my > > Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. > > However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful > > with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked > > my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as > follows: > > Sat. Xmit Tone > > SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > > AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > > AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > > AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > > These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for > > doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, > > 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > > > > Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing > > something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > > > > ? > > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n6rfm1 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 04:36:07 2018 From: n6rfm1 at gmail.com (N6RFM1 gmail) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 00:36:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] : DSLWP: First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Message-ID: <010301d3fe19$0ecd2800$2c677800$@gmail.com> Hi Bob, As you have read in earlier posts, several of us (and the list grows slowly I think) have been able to both receive and decode signals. My understanding is that early in the launch PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ, K4KDR and myself received signals. By some quirk of fate, I was able to report the first properly decoded packet back to the team?s server. The setup here ? 11 elements on 70cm (custom ?Alaskan Arrows? with solid elements), SSB E. SP-7000 on UHF preamp, 28 meters of ? inch hardline, bias-T, Airspy rtl-sdr dongle. Not a superstation by any stretch. At this point the DSLWP-B is in a lunar orbit. While DSLWP-A has been reported on S-band, we don?t know its status or location. See http://destevez.net/2018/06/dslwp-bs-journey-to-the-moon-part-iii/ for much more detail. This blog reflects a tremendous effort by many experts including EA4GPZ, BG2BHC and Scott Tilley, among others. (Early this year Scott discovered that the ?long dead? IMAGE satellite was in fact alive.) The DSLWP team has now conducted several tests after the lunar injection. Cees Bassa and Jan PA3FXB have had some amazing results with the Dwingeloo radio telescope in the Netherlands, during a lunar test window a few days ago. Alas, we can only dream of such an antenna, and place to put it! Perhaps more relevant to your question - a very big round of applause for Piotr SP5ULN who was successful with a decode from the lunar orbit. Piotyr?s setup is a Cushcraft 719B 19 el Yagi, SSB Electronics LNA (SP-7000), 30m of RF-10 coax, bias tee and simple RTL-SDR. So, we remain hopeful Others may have also been successful, but the DSLWP telemetry server seems to be down and I can?t tell if there were any other recent contributors. Perhaps Wei BG2BHC will give us another update and we can find out what the setup was. BTW, there is another test and hopefully some of the friends in Japan will be successful too. One more point, as far as I am aware only GMSK has been transmitted. But, there is also a JT4G transmitter on ?B. Hopefully, JT4G will be easier to receive. I for one hope that will be the case. 73, Bob N6RFM From hugois at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 04:50:20 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:50:20 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: > > Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. > > 73, > > Daniel, KD7LEE > >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >> >> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >> Sat. Xmit Tone >> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >> ? >> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g.shirville at btinternet.com Thu Jun 7 07:41:30 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:41:30 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Oscar News #220 - Your input will be very welcome Message-ID: <4b363f88-e639-91dd-1b28-cce6dbce4707@btinternet.com> Hi All, The editors of the quarterly OSCAR NEWS magazine are now starting their hard work to put together the next edition. This will be published? around the end of this month. Your news, views and articles for Oscar News are always very welcome. These really are the most exciting times to be involved win the amateur satellite world with so many unique new projects underway. The magazine continues to provide interesting details about these various space missions and the groundstations needed to communicate with them. We are able to accept your input in almost any of the usual formats but please keep the images separate or put them at the end of the document. Please contact us at ON-editor at amsat.org? with your information or if you have any questions. thanks and 73 Graham - G3VZV From wmc_jx at 163.com Thu Jun 7 10:52:14 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 18:52:14 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan 7 Jun & 8 Jun Message-ID: <28f45c6.bb6b.163d9e020b1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The subsequent tests for DSLWP UHF are planned from 7 Jun 22:00 UTC to 8 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 8 Jun 05:45 UTC to 8 Jun 06:45 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt Updated version (20180530) of Live CD: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing VY TN & 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From maccody at att.net Thu Jun 7 13:10:21 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:10:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT at Ham-Com, June 8-10, 2018 Message-ID: <79a9b5b2-1c93-f49f-3f3a-8cb4ad6c388f@att.net> All, AMSAT will have a booth at the 2018 Ham-Com in Plano, Texas, June 8 - 10. The AMSAT booth will be at two tables on the Main Hallway, north of the Snack Bar and across from the ARRL booth.? There will be two presentations: one of Friday, June 8, at 2:00 PM and one on Saturday at 11:00 AM. I will be providing demos on the FM birds using my call sign AE5PH.? Below is a tentative schedule of the satellite passes I'll be working. I will not be available Sunday morning, due to other commitments. ?????? DATE? ? Satellite? AOS (UTC) ???? 08 Jun 18 ? AO-91??? 18:05:08 ?? ? 08 Jun 18 ? AO-91 ?? 19:41:14 ?? ? 08 Jun 18 ? SO-50 ?? 21:03:04 ?? ? 09 Jun 18?? AO-85 ?? 13:31:08 ? ?? 09 Jun 18 ? AO-85 ?? 15:11:48 ? ?? 09 Jun 18 ? AO-92 ?? 16:40:54 ? ?? 09 Jun 18 ? AO-91 ?? 18:26:32 ? ?? 09 Jun 18 ? AO-91 ?? 20:03:55 ? ?? 09 Jun 18 ? SO-50 ?? 21:27:15 ? ?? 10 Jun 18 ? AO-91 ?? 18:48:13 (Subject to demand) I hope to hear you on the satellites this weekend and if you hear me, I'd appreciate a QSO from you. 73, Mac Cody / AE5PH From kd7lee at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 06:08:01 2018 From: kd7lee at gmail.com (Daniel Wight) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 23:08:01 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... 73, Daniel, KD7LEE On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting > 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions > to do it how I am doing it: > https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ > > I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink > which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the > L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L > band. > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: > > Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & > work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start > at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite > 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during > approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the > satellite passes. > > 73, > > Daniel, KD7LEE > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner > wrote: > >> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM >> sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear >> while transmitting. >> >> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, >> Jr. >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear >> all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed >> on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log >> antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been >> successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I >> triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are >> set as follows: >> Sat. Xmit Tone >> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for >> doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, >> 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing >> something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >> ? >> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >> all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From k5oe at aol.com Thu Jun 7 06:27:24 2018 From: k5oe at aol.com (k5oe at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 07:27:24 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <03ad01d3fe28$99882620$cc987260$@aol.com> Daniel, et al, There might be a bit of confusion about the references used in various posts: note below where one talks about transmit frequency and another talks about receive frequency. The behavior of any satellite's radio signals is always the same, regardless of which band is uplinked and which band is downlinked. To (hopefully) clarify this topic, please note: - Receive frequency is higher at AOS (satellite is approaching you) and drifts lower towards LOS (going away from you) - Transmit frequency must be tuned lower at AOS and is adjusted/tuned higher towards LOS (to match satellite's receiver) The receive tuning is fairly apparent as you can hear the satellite, but the amount of transmit "adjustment" isn't, especially if you don't have a full duplex radio (as Drew suggests, may be a good investment in stress reduction). The various tables published for the satellites list suggested frequencies, and these are handy if you are adept at changing memories quickly. If you want to (or have to) do it manually, you could use this as a guide: UHF +/- 10 kHz and VHF +/- 3 kHz for a full/high pass of near 90 degrees elevation (at a TCA of only 45 degrees, use half of those shift frequencies... start in the middle of your memory set). Many suggest leaving the VHF uplink at a center frequency: that is convenient but my experience is your signal is not nearly as likely to be successful in a crowded pass (the satellite receiver picks the biggest dog in the pack to repeat). If you are chasing grids, try very low passes (less than 20 degrees at TCA), use a high gain directional antenna or stand directly in front of your car as a useful reflector (truck beds especially good for this), and just tune the center of the band for both T & R. 73, Jerry, K5OE/G -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 5:50 AM To: Daniel Wight Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: > > Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. > > 73, > > Daniel, KD7LEE > >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >> >> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >> Sat. Xmit Tone >> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >> ? >> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 7 07:28:45 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 07:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1272641698.30302.1528356525793@mail.yahoo.com> Drew KO4MA, is absolutely right, operating full duplex is the best way to work these satellites. Having said that, I was stumped once when I heard the AO-92 downlink "full quieting" for the entire pass but could not get into the uplink. Strangely enough, I heard only 2 stations calling and no one responding. It was pretty frustrating, making me doubt everything I had learned so far.? Then one day, I found out (right here on this BBS) that the satellite switches to L/V mode, then it all made sense. Now I always check the current status page at AMSAT.ORG especially when operating AO-92.? I also learned about why it difficult to get into AO-85 with a HT.? Keep reading, you'll learn a lot here from the gurus... trust me :)?? Good luck on the next pass...? 73!Umeshk6vug ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:25:49 -0400 From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" To: "'Hugo Dominguez, Jr.'" ,??? Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 Message-ID: <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8" You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. Got another radio so you can work full duplex? 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: Sat.? ? ? ? Xmit? ? ? Tone SO-50? 145.850? 67.0 Hz AO-85? 435.170? 67.0 Hz AO-91? 435.250? 67.0 HZ AO-92? 435.350? 67.0 Hz These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. ------------------------------ From john280z at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 12:19:13 2018 From: john280z at gmail.com (John Mitchell) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:19:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP: First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan Message-ID: Bob Kv4PC said: "...It might be useful for the rest of us to hear what the successful configurations are (receiver, antenna, preamp, etc)...." (Bob read my mind) I just saw a Twitter feed from supertrack that he is using "4x23 yagi and 0.5/35 dB LNA". https://twitter.com/supertrack_it/status/1004615612386172928 johnm KK4VUR From robert.ehresman at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 13:12:37 2018 From: robert.ehresman at gmail.com (Robert Ehresman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:12:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] : DSLWP: First Amateur Radio Transmissions from In-Reply-To: <010301d3fe19$0ecd2800$2c677800$@gmail.com> References: <010301d3fe19$0ecd2800$2c677800$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bob: Thanks very much for the detailed reply! I'm sure I'm not the only appreciative reader either. So from your description it sounds like a station with approximately 1/4 the antenna elements typically considered necessary for closing an EME echo path on CW might be the lower margin of success. I have had 22 elements in the air on 70cm before but not now unfortunately, and not on an "EL" rotor before. I have some work to do. I'm not familiar with the Airspy's dynamic range off hand, but the RTLSDR's is not great. Seems like SDRs with a few more sampling bits would provide a leg up like the Lime. Anyway, it certainly helps to know where to start. Thanks again! 73; Bob KV4PC On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 11:36 PM N6RFM1 gmail wrote: > Hi Bob, > > > > As you have read in earlier posts, several of us (and the list grows > slowly I think) have been able to both receive and decode signals. My > understanding is that early in the launch PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ, K4KDR and > myself received signals. By some quirk of fate, I was able to report the > first properly decoded packet back to the team?s server. > > > > The setup here ? 11 elements on 70cm (custom ?Alaskan Arrows? with solid > elements), SSB E. SP-7000 on UHF preamp, 28 meters of ? inch hardline, > bias-T, > > Airspy rtl-sdr dongle. Not a superstation by any stretch. > > > > At this point the DSLWP-B is in a lunar orbit. While DSLWP-A has been > reported on S-band, we don?t know its status or location. > > > > See http://destevez.net/2018/06/dslwp-bs-journey-to-the-moon-part-iii/ > for much more detail. This blog reflects a tremendous effort by many > experts including EA4GPZ, BG2BHC and Scott Tilley, among others. (Early > this year Scott discovered that the ?long dead? IMAGE satellite was in fact > alive.) > > > > The DSLWP team has now conducted several tests after the lunar injection. > Cees Bassa and Jan PA3FXB have had some amazing results with the Dwingeloo > radio telescope in the Netherlands, during a lunar test window a few days > ago. Alas, we can only dream of such an antenna, and place to put it! > > > > Perhaps more relevant to your question - a very big round of applause for > Piotr SP5ULN who was successful with a decode from the lunar orbit. > Piotyr?s setup is a Cushcraft 719B 19 el Yagi, SSB Electronics LNA > (SP-7000), 30m of RF-10 coax, bias tee and simple RTL-SDR. So, we remain > hopeful? Others may have also been successful, but the DSLWP telemetry > server seems to be down and I can?t tell if there were any other recent > contributors. Perhaps Wei BG2BHC will give us another update and we can > find out what the setup was. > > > > BTW, there is another test and hopefully some of the friends in Japan will > be successful too. > > > > One more point, as far as I am aware only GMSK has been transmitted. But, > there is also a JT4G transmitter on ?B. Hopefully, JT4G will be easier to > receive. I for one hope that will be the case. > > > > 73, > > > > Bob > > N6RFM > > > From kb2ysi at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 14:02:04 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:02:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1272641698.30302.1528356525793@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1272641698.30302.1528356525793@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Full duplex without desensitization rules, I never knew how much until I put a MFJ-916B into my setup. I have a few pictures and a diagram on my hamqth.com/KB2YSI page if anyone is interested. 73, Don KB2YSI On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 09:28 k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > > Drew KO4MA, is absolutely right, operating full duplex is the best way to > work these satellites. > > Having said that, I was stumped once when I heard the AO-92 downlink "full > quieting" for the entire pass but could not get into the uplink. Strangely > enough, I heard only 2 stations calling and no one responding. > > It was pretty frustrating, making me doubt everything I had learned so > far. Then one day, I found out (right here on this BBS) that the satellite > switches to L/V mode, then it all made sense. Now I always check the > current status page at AMSAT.ORG especially when operating AO-92. > > I also learned about why it difficult to get into AO-85 with a HT. Keep > reading, you'll learn a lot here from the gurus... trust me :) > Good luck on the next pass... > > 73!Umeshk6vug > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:25:49 -0400 > From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" > To: "'Hugo Dominguez, Jr.'" , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > Message-ID: <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM > sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear > while transmitting. > > Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, > Jr. > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > > I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all > the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my > Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. > However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful > with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked > my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: > Sat. Xmit Tone > SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for > doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, > 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > > Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing > something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > ------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tasmac at w5pfg.us Thu Jun 7 14:41:35 2018 From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 09:41:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EL58 trip starts today Message-ID: <20180607094135.Horde.44dQAVWlYK1OKEHgHgdWopg@www.w5pfg.us> AC0RA and I are in Louisiana and are hoping to be on the air from EL58 after 2300 UTC today, possibly sooner. We should operate until about 2000 UTC Saturday. 73 Clayton W5PFG 73 Clayton W5PFG From n0jy at amsat.org Thu Jun 7 14:47:53 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:47:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1272641698.30302.1528356525793@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1272641698.30302.1528356525793@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <259d0c5a-d5cb-e9f8-92f8-30b0cca24d76@amsat.org> I talk about AO-85's hearing problem along with some images, in my YouTube video "The Good and The Bad With AO-91" https://youtu.be/no4pHx02lSI That specific part of the discussion starts about a minute and a half into the video, if you just can't wait to see it.??? :-) Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 6/7/2018 02:28, k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > I also learned about why it difficult to get into AO-85 with a HT.? Keep reading, you'll learn a lot here from the gurus... trust me :)?? > Good luck on the next pass...? From ke4al at yahoo.com Thu Jun 7 14:50:13 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 14:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] East Coast Roving Announcement 10-12 June References: <568400658.199019.1528383013986.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <568400658.199019.1528383013986@mail.yahoo.com> Heading out from EM71 to FM16 Sunday, 10 June, activating grids EM73/EM74, EM84/EM94, EM95/FM05, and FM06 along the way,? These will be single FM pass activations. Monday, 11 June, I will activate FM17, FM27, and FM26.? I will be on multiple passes from each location, with a focus on FM birds and FO-29. Tuesday, 12 June, I will start off on the FM15/FM25 grid line, and then head back home through FM03/FM04, EM93/EM94, and EM83 with a single pass at each point. All QSOs will be uploaded to LOTW, upon my return.? If you need a paper card, my QSL information is good on QRZ. Full schedule available at:??https://twitter.com/KE4ALabama/status/1004730959105789952 You can follow me on my roving trip at?http://aprs.fi/KE4AL-9 I will post updates on Twitter.? My account is open to the public and can be viewed at?https://twitter.com/KE4ALabama Thanks and 73,Robert | KE4AL From w4upd at cfl.rr.com Thu Jun 7 14:57:55 2018 From: w4upd at cfl.rr.com (w4upd) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:57:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] @018 Symposium Message-ID: <5B1947F3.30005@cfl.rr.com> Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but there still is no indication of when and where the next symposium is going to be. Like some of us that are retired, we need to be able to plan especially for the expenses. Anyone have an idea or hint on the aforementioned activity? Reid, W4UPD From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jun 7 14:59:25 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:59:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] @018 Symposium In-Reply-To: <5B1947F3.30005@cfl.rr.com> References: <5B1947F3.30005@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: November 2nd-4th in Huntsville, Alabama. https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:57 AM, w4upd wrote: > Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but there still is no indication of when and > where the next symposium is going to be. Like some of us that are retired, > we need to be able to plan especially for the expenses. Anyone have an idea > or hint on the aforementioned activity? > > Reid, W4UPD > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 15:03:10 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:03:10 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan 7 Jun & 8 Jun In-Reply-To: <28f45c6.bb6b.163d9e020b1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <28f45c6.bb6b.163d9e020b1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: <8A2159C2-E194-48B2-B712-0798AB117403@gmail.com> Wei, Thanks for the info. Will FT4 also be activated? 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:52 PM, ??? wrote: > > Hi OMs, > > > The subsequent tests for DSLWP UHF are planned from 7 Jun 22:00 UTC to 8 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 8 Jun 05:45 UTC to 8 Jun 06:45 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. > > > Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > > > Updated version (20180530) of Live CD: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing > > > VY TN & 73! > > > Wei BG2BHC > > > > > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jun 7 15:47:26 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 11:47:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] May/June 2018 Apogee View Posted Message-ID: The May/June 2018 edition of Apogee View, an update on AMSAT's activities from AMSAT President Joe Spier, K6WAO, has been posted to the AMSAT website. https://www.amsat.org/apogeeview/ 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From wmc_jx at 163.com Thu Jun 7 15:53:13 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 23:53:13 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan 7 Jun & 8 Jun In-Reply-To: <8A2159C2-E194-48B2-B712-0798AB117403@gmail.com> References: <28f45c6.bb6b.163d9e020b1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <8A2159C2-E194-48B2-B712-0798AB117403@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jean, no JT4G this time. Regards, Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-07 23:03:10, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: >Wei, > >Thanks for the info. > >Will FT4 also be activated? > >73 > > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:52 PM, ??? wrote: >> >> Hi OMs, >> >> >> The subsequent tests for DSLWP UHF are planned from 7 Jun 22:00 UTC to 8 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 8 Jun 05:45 UTC to 8 Jun 06:45 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. >> >> >> Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt >> >> >> Updated version (20180530) of Live CD: >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> VY TN & 73! >> >> >> Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tucker at mcguireland.com Thu Jun 7 15:57:43 2018 From: tucker at mcguireland.com (Tucker McGuire) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 11:57:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] @018 Symposium In-Reply-To: <5B1947F3.30005@cfl.rr.com> References: <5B1947F3.30005@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=amsat+2018+symposium On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 10:58 AM w4upd wrote: > Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but there still is no indication of when > and where the next symposium is going to be. Like some of us that are > retired, we need to be able to plan especially for the expenses. Anyone > have an idea or hint on the aforementioned activity? > > Reid, W4UPD > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 16:03:46 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 20:03:46 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan 7 Jun & 8 Jun In-Reply-To: References: <28f45c6.bb6b.163d9e020b1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <8A2159C2-E194-48B2-B712-0798AB117403@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wei, Thanks, understood. Trying to set up for tomorrow window, still struggling with a few software issues my side (operator incompetence, Hi!). As will be at work during the window will leave the station on automatic mode and hopefully it receive something. All the best to you and your team for the tests. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 7, 2018, at 7:53 PM, ??? wrote: > > Hi Jean, no JT4G this time. Regards, Wei > > > > > -- > WEI Mingchuan > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com ; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > > At 2018-06-07 23:03:10, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: > >Wei, > > > >Thanks for the info. > > > >Will FT4 also be activated? > > > >73 > > > > > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:52 PM, ??? wrote: > >> > >> Hi OMs, > >> > >> > >> The subsequent tests for DSLWP UHF are planned from 7 Jun 22:00 UTC to 8 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 8 Jun 05:45 UTC to 8 Jun 06:45 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. > >> > >> > >> Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt > >> > >> > >> Updated version (20180530) of Live CD: > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing > >> > >> > >> VY TN & 73! > >> > >> > >> Wei BG2BHC > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> WEI Mingchuan > >> > >> > >> Research Center of Satellite Technology > >> Harbin Institute of Technology > >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From hugois at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 17:04:23 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:04:23 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: > > As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... > > 73, > > Daniel, KD7LEE > >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >> >> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. >> >> ? >> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >>> >>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Daniel, KD7LEE >>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >>>> >>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >>>> >>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >>>> >>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >>>> >>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 17:30:35 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 21:30:35 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> Message-ID: <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> Hugo, Just to share experience. 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few more W for clear QSO. AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. Hope this help. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > > Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >> >> 73, >> >> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >>> >>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. >>> >>> ? >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >>>> >>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >>>>> >>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >>>>> >>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >>>>> >>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n0jy at amsat.org Thu Jun 7 17:44:51 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8044c4d3-0e11-cc60-2867-d48914acfd8a@amsat.org> On 6/7/2018 12:04, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? I talk about AO-85's hearing problem along with some images, in my YouTube video "The Good and The Bad With AO-91" https://youtu.be/no4pHx02lSI Jerry Buxton, N?JY From hugois at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 17:41:30 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:41:30 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera tripod to free my hand ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > > Hugo, > > Just to share experience. > > 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. > > SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few more W for clear QSO. > > AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. > > > Hope this help. > > > 73 > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> >> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? >> >> ? >> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >>> >>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Daniel, KD7LEE >>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >>>> >>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>> >>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> >>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >>>>>> >>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >>>>>> >>>>>> ? >>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 7 17:44:04 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <625418571.1857931.1528393444610@mail.yahoo.com> Hugo, you wrote, "perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up", but this should not be generalized because the Doppler correction is opposite for the Receiver and the Transmitter.? (1) At the Receiver - - when the transmitter (bird) is coming towards you, its frequency appears higher than its real frequency - when the transmitter (bird) is going away from you, its frequency appears lower than its real frequency (2) So, ideally, the Transmitter, has to compensate the opposite way, to be received at the correct frequency.? (3) But since the satellite does not use Doppler corrections, the ground station has to provide the correction for both RX as well as TX.? If you like, you can read the amazing article "The One True Rule For Doppler Correction", published by AMSAT in 1994.? The key words are "AT THE SATELLITE".? Also, just watch the frequencies shown by any satellite tracking program like SatPC32 or HRD Sat Tracker, and you'll see what is really going on.? Happy bird hunting...! 73!? Umesh, K6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:50:20 -0700 From: "Hugo Dominguez, Jr." To: Daniel Wight Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 Message-ID: <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8 Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 7 17:48:03 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <1272641698.30302.1528356525793@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1055875960.1884780.1528393683999@mail.yahoo.com> I completely agree, but now I'm looking into replacing it with a HF+VHF+UHF Triplexer explicitly for the SDR Receiver.? 73!Umesh, K6VUG On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 7:02:17 AM PDT, Don KB2YSI wrote: Full duplex without desensitization rules, I never knew how much until I put a MFJ-916B into my setup.? I have a few pictures and a diagram on my hamqth.com/KB2YSI page if anyone is interested.? 73, Don KB2YSI On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 09:28 k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: ? Drew KO4MA, is absolutely right, operating full duplex is the best way to work these satellites. Having said that, I was stumped once when I heard the AO-92 downlink "full quieting" for the entire pass but could not get into the uplink. Strangely enough, I heard only 2 stations calling and no one responding. It was pretty frustrating, making me doubt everything I had learned so far.? Then one day, I found out (right here on this BBS) that the satellite switches to L/V mode, then it all made sense. Now I always check the current status page at AMSAT.ORG especially when operating AO-92.? I also learned about why it difficult to get into AO-85 with a HT.? Keep reading, you'll learn a lot here from the gurus... trust me :)?? Good luck on the next pass...? 73!Umeshk6vug ? ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:25:49 -0400 From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" To: "'Hugo Dominguez, Jr.'" ,??? Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 Message-ID: <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8" You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. Got another radio so you can work full duplex? 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: Sat.? ? ? ? Xmit? ? ? Tone SO-50? 145.850? 67.0 Hz AO-85? 435.170? 67.0 Hz AO-91? 435.250? 67.0 HZ AO-92? 435.350? 67.0 Hz These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 18:00:41 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 22:00:41 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Hugo, Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf power) I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s which trigger Francois venture on the birds. 73 Jean Marc > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera tripod to free my hand > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >> >> Hugo, >> >> Just to share experience. >> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. >> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few more W for clear QSO. >> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. >> >> >> Hope this help. >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >>> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? >>> >>> ? >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >>>> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >>>>> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> From redski at bellsouth.net Thu Jun 7 18:24:00 2018 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M WILLOUGHBY) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 13:24:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan 7 Jun & 8 Jun Message-ID: <2FA3437C-06AE-4395-B011-350C319C48EA@bellsouth.net> I have put together a how-to guide for decoding DSLWP GMSK telemetry. It is available here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxyZWR3aWxsb3VnaGJ5fGd4OjRjN2Q2MmQzYjI3ZjM0OGI 73, Red KC4LE From kb2ysi at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 18:57:43 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 14:57:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at hamqth.com/KB2YSI SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer as a filter) setup. I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but it has been incredibly fun time! 73, Don KB2YSI On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple wrote: > Hugo, > > Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with > only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf > power) > > I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s > which trigger Francois venture on the birds. > > 73 > > Jean Marc > > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > wrote: > > > > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used the > 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and the > antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening for > myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera tripod > to free my hand > > > > ? > > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple > wrote: > >> > >> Hugo, > >> > >> Just to share experience. > >> > >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and AO92, > crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow type > of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with > South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. > >> > >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the > repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few > more W for clear QSO. > >> > >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between > 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. > >> > >> > >> Hope this help. > >> > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > wrote: > >>> > >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. > They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and > that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, > AO-85 and SO-50? > >>> > >>> ? > >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >>> > >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: > >>>> > >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on > SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in > error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some > more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been > using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the > mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... > >>>> > >>>> 73, > >>>> > >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > wrote: > >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by > starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has > instructions to do it how I am doing it: > https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ > >>>>> > >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for > uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup > for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was > on the L band. > >>>>> > >>>>> ? > >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start > high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would > start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the > satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher > frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and > lower after the satellite passes. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 73, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < > glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM > sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear > while transmitting. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo > Dominguez, Jr. > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to > hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have > programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic > log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been > successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I > triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are > set as follows: > >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone > >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I > adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, > 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I > missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ? > >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>>>>>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>>>>>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:04:56 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:04:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Mode L plans for Field Day? Message-ID: <37d07c38-8b5b-e70d-c287-15446db5c126@gmail.com> Hi folks, Have plans been made for AO-92 during the Field Day window? I'm wondering if it will be in Mode L or not... Thanks, Greg KO6TH From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:30:54 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 15:30:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: It was suggested that you need "a few more watts" to use SO-50. That is definitely not the case. I have worked it many times with only 500 mW, even on busy passes, getting in full-quieting. I have also gotten into it with an acceptable signal with only 50 mW on empty relatively high elevation passes. It does has a relatively weak downlink though (250 mW). Regarding AO-85, it is a little deaf and it's true it's because of an antenna issue. I have some info about it and a "twist trick" fix documented here: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/ao-85-twist-trick-and-other-hints/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no > table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only > tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. > > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for > the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in > the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement > in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at > hamqth.com/KB2YSI > > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. AO-85 > is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing I do > seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are crazy > easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer as a > filter) setup. > > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk > offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but > it has been incredibly fun time! > > > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple > wrote: > > > Hugo, > > > > Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with > > only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf > > power) > > > > I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s > > which trigger Francois venture on the birds. > > > > 73 > > > > Jean Marc > > > > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used > the > > 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and the > > antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening for > > myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera tripod > > to free my hand > > > > > > ? > > > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple < > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hugo, > > >> > > >> Just to share experience. > > >> > > >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and > AO92, > > crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow > type > > of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with > > South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. > > >> > > >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the > > repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a > few > > more W for clear QSO. > > >> > > >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between > > 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. > > >> > > >> > > >> Hope this help. > > >> > > >> > > >> 73 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by > handhelds. > > They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and > > that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for > AO-92, > > AO-85 and SO-50? > > >>> > > >>> ? > > >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >>> > > >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on > > SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds > in > > error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do > some > > more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been > > using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the > > mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... > > >>>> > > >>>> 73, > > >>>> > > >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > wrote: > > >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by > > starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has > > instructions to do it how I am doing it: > > https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for > > uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup > > for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was > > on the L band. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ? > > >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start > > high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I > would > > start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the > > satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher > > frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and > > lower after the satellite passes. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 73, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < > > glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the > FM > > sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't > hear > > while transmitting. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo > > Dominguez, Jr. > > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > > >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to > > hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have > > programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band > periodic > > log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been > > successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I > > triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are > > set as follows: > > >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone > > >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > > >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > > >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > > >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > > >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I > > adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, > > 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I > > missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ? > > >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > >>>>>>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jbelstner at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 22:22:59 2018 From: jbelstner at gmail.com (John Belstner) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 15:22:59 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have been been quite successful on SO-50, AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92 with 5W from my TH-D72A (full duplex) and Arrow antenna; even at low elevations. I think you will find that poor operating behavior from others on the bird is the primary reason for not being able to get through on any given pass. John - W9EN From aj9n at aol.com Fri Jun 8 00:32:30 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 20:32:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-07 23:30 UTC Message-ID: <163dccf1bed-c90-18174@webjas-vae239.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-07 23:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-07 23:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1231. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1180. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From kk5do at arrl.net Fri Jun 8 00:50:35 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:50:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra Extra New Items in AMSAT Store Message-ID: <497828b3-a648-ee31-ebec-0ee2382aba3a@arrl.net> Extra, Extra, you can read all about it. The AMSAT Store has three new items. New for 2018 is the AMSAT Hat. Now available in sizes Small (which fits small/medium sized heads) and Large (which fits large/xlarge size heads). We also have the new for 2018 T-Shirts in multiple sizes and the 2018 Golf Shirt in multiple sizes. I have only loaded a small amount of each as Martha has not unpacked all the boxes. As soon as we get an accurate count for each size, I will update as necessary. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From n4ufo at yahoo.com Fri Jun 8 00:42:17 2018 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 00:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler adjustment - easy to remember References: <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927@mail.yahoo.com> Regarding all the explanations on 'how to' adjust doppler... The 2m usually doesn't move enough to need much adjusting, maybe a small bit near LOS. Usually it's just the UHF that needs adjustment, whether it's the uplink or the downlink... So, it's simple if you remember this phrase I came up with: Adjust UHF UP when it's the UPLINK and DOWN when it's the DOWNLINK because TWO meters is TOO much to bother with. Hope that helps. 73, Kevin N4UFO From pconver at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 02:31:35 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 23:31:35 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler adjustment - easy to remember In-Reply-To: <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi You can easy see/check real dopplers updated using http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=AO-92 Or the satellite you are tracking. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On 6/7/18, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Regarding all the explanations on 'how to' adjust doppler... The 2m usually > doesn't move enough to need much adjusting, maybe a small bit near LOS. > Usually it's just the UHF that needs adjustment, whether it's the uplink or > the downlink... So, it's simple if you remember this phrase I came up with: > > > Adjust UHF UP when it's the UPLINK and DOWN when it's the DOWNLINK because > TWO meters is TOO much to bother with. > > Hope that helps. 73, Kevin N4UFO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kk5do at arrl.net Fri Jun 8 02:35:57 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 21:35:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler adjustment - easy to remember In-Reply-To: <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1178669374.2087692.1528418537927@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <80e1d5dc-ec41-9cbd-20cf-b847036da230@arrl.net> What about always correct Doppler on the highest frequency? That is the one affected most by Doppler. 73...bruce On 6/7/2018 7:42 PM, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Regarding all the explanations on 'how to' adjust doppler... The 2m usually doesn't move enough to need much adjusting, maybe a small bit near LOS. Usually it's just the UHF that needs adjustment, whether it's the uplink or the downlink... So, it's simple if you remember this phrase I came up with: > > Adjust UHF UP when it's the UPLINK and DOWN when it's the DOWNLINK because TWO meters is TOO much to bother with. > > Hope that helps. 73, Kevin N4UFO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From Saguaroastro at cox.net Fri Jun 8 02:47:03 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:47:03 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler adjustment - easy to remember Message-ID: Nice mnemonic there. Gonna have to remember that. Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 7, 2018, at 17:42, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB wrote: Regarding all the explanations on 'how to' adjust doppler... The 2m usually doesn't move enough to need much adjusting, maybe a small bit near LOS. Usually it's just the UHF that needs adjustment, whether it's the uplink or the downlink... So, it's simple if you remember this phrase I came up with: Adjust UHF UP when it's the UPLINK and DOWN when it's the DOWNLINK because TWO meters is TOO much to bother with. Hope that helps. 73, Kevin N4UFO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 02:49:29 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 22:49:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] @018 Symposium In-Reply-To: References: <5B1947F3.30005@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <0D6BBF70-B181-4F0F-AA0B-DC60E5DEA389@gmail.com> Reported in ANS 126 http://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/2018/001026.html EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Tucker McGuire wrote: > > https://lmgtfy.com/?q=amsat+2018+symposium > > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 10:58 AM w4upd wrote: >> >> Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but there still is no indication of when >> and where the next symposium is going to be. Like some of us that are >> retired, we need to be able to plan especially for the expenses. Anyone >> have an idea or hint on the aforementioned activity? >> >> Reid, W4UPD >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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The DCI-435-10C is used in European-Asian ITU Regions 1 and 3, and is also used in North America for weak signal, packet and other specialized communications. Connector Type: "N" silver-Teflon - gold https://www.ebay.com/itm/292595820721 Thanks and 73. Alan WA6DNR From davidajaffe at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 06:24:13 2018 From: davidajaffe at gmail.com (David Jaffe) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 23:24:13 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom W32A transmit below 440 for satellite work? Message-ID: Hi, New to the list. I have an Icom W32A HT (one of the 5-digit serial number ones, ca. 1998) and an Arrow antenna. I used them around 10 years ago for AO-27 and, after reading the recent QST article, thought I'd try some of the newer satellites. Much to my surprise, I can't seem to get the W32A to transmit below 440 MHz., so I can't use it on AO-85, AO-91, etc. I looked at the specs and, sure enough, it says that it transmits only about 440 MHz. Yet, a google search seems to indicate that this was a popular satellite radio. Is there some trick to getting it to transmit below 440? Or is it necessary to perform a hardware mod to get it to do so? If so, is there someone who has done the mod (successfully) who can provide documentation on what he did that worked? Thanks K6DAJ From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jun 8 06:40:54 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:40:54 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom W32A transmit below 440 for satellite work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David! Welcome to the list! You need to remove a diode and then do a full reset to open up the 70cm transmit below 440 MHz. I modded mine by using tweezers to twist it off the board. The mod is available in many places online including the mods.dk site. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Thursday, June 7, 2018, David Jaffe wrote: > Hi, > > New to the list. > > I have an Icom W32A HT (one of the 5-digit serial number ones, ca. 1998) > and an Arrow antenna. I used them around 10 years ago for AO-27 and, after > reading the recent QST article, thought I'd try some of the newer > satellites. > > Much to my surprise, I can't seem to get the W32A to transmit below 440 > MHz., so I can't use it on AO-85, AO-91, etc. I looked at the specs and, > sure enough, it says that it transmits only about 440 MHz. Yet, a google > search seems to indicate that this was a popular satellite radio. > > Is there some trick to getting it to transmit below 440? > > Or is it necessary to perform a hardware mod to get it to do so? If so, is > there someone who has done the mod (successfully) who can provide > documentation on what he did that worked? > > > Thanks > > K6DAJ > > From joevk5ei at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 10:19:55 2018 From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 19:49:55 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 TLE's Message-ID: Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements amateur txt ?? Joe From Saguaroastro at cox.net Fri Jun 8 11:40:17 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 04:40:17 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 TLE's Message-ID: Yes, it was launched with a classified DoD payload. The elements are provided to Satellites Owner (AMSAT) who then distributes them via the massacre element set. Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 8, 2018, at 03:19, Joe Pereira wrote: Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements amateur txt ?? Joe _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 11:52:04 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 07:52:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 TLE's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have added this to the FAQ on this wiki: http://sats.wikidot.com/i-cannot-find-ao-85-tles-in-gpredict-satpc32-amsatdroid-or-c The answer: Resolution Select the AMSAT source rather than CelesTrak. https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt Explanation Due to AO-85's launch as a secondary payload on a classified mission, CelesTrak doesn't have the keps in their database. - Paul N8HM AMSAT pulls the keps from the Space-Track database. I believe the policy for secondary payloads on classified missions allows only the satellite owners or their designated representatives to do so. We can then redistribute them ourselves. Of course, this policy does not make much sense. Russia and China know exactly where all of our classified satellites are. The only consequence is that we're inconvenienced. My favorite OS tracking app pulls solely from Celestrak, so I have to use another app for NO-84 and AO-85. - Paul N8HM 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 06:21 Joe Pereira wrote: > > Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements > amateur txt ?? > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From joevk5ei at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 12:14:46 2018 From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 21:44:46 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 TLE's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok thanks, I now remember this was mentioned before and at times it does get annoying when trying to search for specific satellites particularly for amateur radio use. Now using nasa.all. http://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasa.all But I still need to keep changing URL sources to follow other birds and at times also using space-track to get the most updated tle's. All good - Thanks again. Joe On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 9:22 PM, John Brier wrote: > I have added this to the FAQ on this wiki: > http://sats.wikidot.com/i-cannot-find-ao-85-tles-in- > gpredict-satpc32-amsatdroid-or-c > > The answer: > > Resolution > > Select the AMSAT source rather than CelesTrak. > https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt > > Explanation > > Due to AO-85's launch as a secondary payload on a classified mission, > CelesTrak doesn't have the keps in their database. - Paul N8HM > AMSAT pulls the keps from the Space-Track database. I believe the > policy for secondary payloads on classified missions allows only the > satellite owners or their designated representatives to do so. We can > then redistribute them ourselves. Of course, this policy does not make > much sense. Russia and China know exactly where all of our classified > satellites are. The only consequence is that we're inconvenienced. My > favorite OS tracking app pulls solely from Celestrak, so I have to use > another app for NO-84 and AO-85. - Paul N8HM > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 06:21 Joe Pereira wrote: > > > > Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements > > amateur txt ?? > > > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4ufo at yahoo.com Fri Jun 8 12:02:30 2018 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 12:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom W32A transmit below 440 for satellite work? References: <1081138040.2307052.1528459350548.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1081138040.2307052.1528459350548@mail.yahoo.com> "Or is it necessary to perform a hardware mod to get it to do so? If so, is there someone who has done the mod (successfully) who can provide documentation on what he did that worked?" There is a surface mount diode (D523) that needs to be removed to allow TX below 440 Mhz. Not the best documentation, but I followed this to modify mine:? http://www.qsl.net/kf4tuz/icomhacks.html By the way, if you perform the RX modification on that page (just pushing some buttons, no soldering or even screwdrivers involved) and you are able to access the 800 Mhz band, then you have one of the units that should work full duplex on SO-50 well. If not, then you will likely find it's only semi duplex on SO-50, but fine on the U/v birds. 73 & GL, Kevin N4UFO From hugois at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 12:37:09 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 05:37:09 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to filter the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try to lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the times i?m by myself. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57, Don KB2YSI wrote: > > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. > > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at hamqth.com/KB2YSI > > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer as a filter) setup. > > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but it has been incredibly fun time! > > > > 73, Don KB2YSI > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple wrote: >> Hugo, >> >> Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf power) >> >> I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s which trigger Francois venture on the birds. >> >> 73 >> >> Jean Marc >> >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> > >> > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera tripod to free my hand >> > >> > ? >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> > >> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >> >> >> >> Hugo, >> >> >> >> Just to share experience. >> >> >> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. >> >> >> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few more W for clear QSO. >> >> >> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hope this help. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? >> >>> >> >>> ? >> >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>> >> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >> >>>> >> >>>> 73, >> >>>> >> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has instructions to do it how I am doing it: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was on the L band. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ? >> >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and lower after the satellite passes. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 73, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear while transmitting. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows: >> >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >> >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2ysi at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 13:10:56 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:10:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and then the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use. I found it easier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup. 73, Don KB2YSI On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a > way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two > handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to filter > the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try to > lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to > receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the > times i?m by myself. > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57, Don KB2YSI wrote: > > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no > table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only > tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. > > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for > the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in > the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement > in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at > hamqth.com/KB2YSI > > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. > AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing > I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are > crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer > as a filter) setup. > > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk > offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but > it has been incredibly fun time! > > > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple > wrote: > >> Hugo, >> >> Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with >> only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf >> power) >> >> I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s >> which trigger Francois venture on the birds. >> >> 73 >> >> Jean Marc >> >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> wrote: >> > >> > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used >> the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and >> the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening >> for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera >> tripod to free my hand >> > >> > ? >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> > >> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hugo, >> >> >> >> Just to share experience. >> >> >> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and >> AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew >> Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made >> QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. >> >> >> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the >> repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few >> more W for clear QSO. >> >> >> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between >> 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hope this help. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by >> handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive >> antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts >> sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? >> >>> >> >>> ? >> >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>> >> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on >> SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in >> error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some >> more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been >> using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the >> mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >> >>>> >> >>>> 73, >> >>>> >> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> wrote: >> >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by >> starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has >> instructions to do it how I am doing it: >> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for >> uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup >> for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was >> on the L band. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ? >> >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start >> high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would >> start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the >> satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher >> frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and >> lower after the satellite passes. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 73, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < >> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the >> FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't >> hear while transmitting. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo >> Dominguez, Jr. >> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to >> hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have >> programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic >> log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been >> successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I >> triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are >> set as follows: >> >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >> >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I >> adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, >> 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I >> missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >> >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 13:34:52 2018 From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 08:34:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer). The model number is MFJ-916B. There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), comparing different models. 73 Rolf NR0T EN34it On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and > then the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use. I found it > easier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup. > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a > > way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two > > handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to filter > > the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try to > > lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to > > receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the > > times i?m by myself. > > > > ? > > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57, Don KB2YSI wrote: > > > > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no > > table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only > > tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. > > > > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for > > the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood > in > > the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major > improvement > > in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at > > hamqth.com/KB2YSI > > > > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. > > AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others > nothing > > I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 > are > > crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer > > as a filter) setup. > > > > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to > talk > > offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, > but > > it has been incredibly fun time! > > > > > > > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple > > wrote: > > > >> Hugo, > >> > >> Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with > >> only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf > >> power) > >> > >> I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s > >> which trigger Francois venture on the birds. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> Jean Marc > >> > >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used > >> the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios > and > >> the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening > >> for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera > >> tripod to free my hand > >> > > >> > ? > >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> > > >> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple < > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hugo, > >> >> > >> >> Just to share experience. > >> >> > >> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and > >> AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew > >> Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made > >> QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. > >> >> > >> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the > >> repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a > few > >> more W for clear QSO. > >> >> > >> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need > between > >> 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hope this help. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 73 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by > >> handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive > >> antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts > >> sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? > >> >>> > >> >>> ? > >> >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> >>> > >> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on > >> SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) > birds in > >> error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do > some > >> more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've > been > >> using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the > >> mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 73, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> wrote: > >> >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by > >> starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has > >> instructions to do it how I am doing it: > >> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for > >> uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup > >> for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it > was > >> on the L band. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> ? > >> >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start > >> high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I > would > >> start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the > >> satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher > >> frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and > >> lower after the satellite passes. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> 73, > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < > >> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the > >> FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't > >> hear while transmitting. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo > >> Dominguez, Jr. > >> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > >> >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > >> >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able > to > >> hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have > >> programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band > periodic > >> log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only > been > >> successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I > >> triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they > are > >> set as follows: > >> >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone > >> >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > >> >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > >> >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > >> >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > >> >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I > >> adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 > 435.160, > >> 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am > I > >> missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> ? > >> >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. > >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the > >> official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite > >> program! > >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: > >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jun 8 14:33:20 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 10:33:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS balloon down in WV/MD/VA Message-ID: The KC8UCH-11 Balloon is down in an area equidistant from Cumberland, MD, Haggerstown, MD and Winchester VA. And a few miles west of Martinsburg. It was launched in Canada and flew overnight. This was a long distance balloon, I doubt the launch crew will come down here looking for it. So, a great DF hunt opportunity. My guess at the landing coordinates are 39N 32.0' and 78W 11.5' And here is my plot of my prediction: http://aprs.org/balloon.png It was coming down going SE and headed right for a ridge line with the land elevation rising. So I think the prediction should be pretty good (except for whatever the wind was doing right on the ground as it was going up and over that ridge?) Bob, WB4APR From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jun 8 14:41:17 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:41:17 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: Rolf, I don't know about the magazines, but I saw a review online comparing the MFJ-916B to a Diamond MX-72: http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ The MFJ unit outperformed the Diamond unit. I have been using the MFJ units for years. They are made in Taiwan, and are priced at about half the price of the equivalent Diamond or Comet units. They are rugged, and work well. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Friday, June 8, 2018, Rolf Krogstad wrote: > MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer). The model number is MFJ-916B. > There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. > > There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), > comparing different models. > > 73 > Rolf NR0T > From aa5uk at yahoo.com Fri Jun 8 15:48:37 2018 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1486991397.2444641.1528472917655@mail.yahoo.com> Another good article on the topic is:? A Survey of 2 Meter/70 Centimeter Diplexers? >>? http://www.dci.ca/pdf/qst-dec-2004.pdf 73, Adrian AA5UK On Friday, June 8, 2018, 9:42:43 AM CDT, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: Rolf, I don't know about the magazines, but I saw a review online comparing the MFJ-916B to a Diamond MX-72: http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ The MFJ unit outperformed the Diamond unit. I have been using the MFJ units for years. They are made in Taiwan, and are priced at about half the price of the equivalent Diamond or Comet units. They are rugged, and work well. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Friday, June 8, 2018, Rolf Krogstad wrote: > MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer).? The model number is MFJ-916B. > There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. > > There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), > comparing different models. > > 73 > Rolf? NR0T > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Jun 8 16:19:20 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 17:19:20 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 - FUNcube-1 mode change Message-ID: <3c140cdb-de12-16be-728e-a03fe62baad6@btinternet.com> Hi All, As usual, for the weekend, AO73 is now in continuous amateur mode with the transponder on. Have FUN with the bird 73 Graham G3VZV From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jun 8 18:12:05 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:12:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release no. 18-08 Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE no. 18-08 June 08, 2018 David Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections June 08, 2018 - The ARISS-US Team (Amateur Radio on the International Space Station) is pleased to announce schools or organizations submitting proposals have been selected to advance to the next stage of planning to host amateur radio contacts from January to June 2019. The contacts will be with International Space Station (ISS) crew members using the ARISS equipment on the ISS. A review team of teachers from the ARISS-US Education Committee selected proposals after the recent proposal window closed. The groups will go forward to Phase 2, developing an amateur radio equipment plan to host a scheduled ARISS contact. ARISS's primary goal is to engage people in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) activities, and involve them in pursuits related to space exploration, amateur radio, communications, and associated areas of study and career options. Cord Davidson, KD5J, at Central Magnet Middle School in Batesville, AR, exclaimed after a recent ARISS contact, "ARISS shows how amateur radio is the most unique hobby there is, and from the educator's perspective, what a great way to encourage STEM topics!" ARISS anticipates that NASA will be able to provide scheduling opportunities for these US host organizations. The candidates must now complete an equipment plan that demonstrates their ability to execute the ham radio contact. Once their equipment plan is approved by the ARISS technical team, the final selected schools / organizations will be scheduled as their availability and flexibility match up with the scheduling opportunities. The schools and organizations are: Faith Christian Academy Orlando FL Hidden Oaks Middle School Prior Lake MN Huntington High School Huntington TX Moriah Central School Port Henry NY NIH-National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences Children's Inn Bethesda MD Park Co. Public Library with Boys & Girls Club of the High Rockies Fairplay CO Pembroke Junior Senior High School Corfu NY ABOUT ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) in the United States, and other international space agencies and international amateur radio organizations around the world. The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers from radio clubs and coordination from the ARISS team, the ISS crew members speak directly with large group audiences in a variety of public forums such as school assemblies, science centers and museums, scout camporees, jamborees and space camps, where students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and amateur radio. Find more information at www.ariss.org, and also www.amsat.organd www.arrl.org. ### Contact: David Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org (321) 662-9486 www.amsat.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jun 8 23:00:56 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 19:00:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS balloon down in WV-back up now! Message-ID: <4257711d750799b77fe45a5be0117b27@mail.gmail.com> Well, my prediction was off, but guess what!?? It took off again when the sun came up and warmed the balloon. That is amazing. SO it took off from around Martinsburg WV and was over Baltimore at around 3 PM this afternoon above 39,000 feet and headed Southeast at about 60 MPH. Problem is that it has a terrestrial GPS that shuts down above a certain altitude to keep legal, and so it wont be transmitting again until it descends this evening. But at that speed, my guess it was over the ocean 2 hours later. Maybe it will survive till Europe? If it can take off rom water like it did from land this morning. See the track on APRS.FI https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FKC8UCH-11&timerange=3600&tail=3600 call is KC8UCH-11 Bob WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 10:33 AM To: TAPR APRS Mailing List Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; bruninga at usna.edu Subject: APRS balloon down in WV/MD/VA The KC8UCH-11 Balloon is down in an area equidistant from Cumberland, MD, Haggerstown, MD and Winchester VA. And a few miles west of Martinsburg. It was launched in Canada and flew overnight. This was a long distance balloon, I doubt the launch crew will come down here looking for it. So, a great DF hunt opportunity. My guess at the landing coordinates are 39N 32.0' and 78W 11.5' And here is my plot of my prediction: http://aprs.org/balloon.png It was coming down going SE and headed right for a ridge line with the land elevation rising. So I think the prediction should be pretty good (except for whatever the wind was doing right on the ground as it was going up and over that ridge?) Bob, WB4APR From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 07:04:05 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:04:05 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: <91D0E5E4-80B0-4CB5-B0D6-F6D045831876@gmail.com> Hugo, As regards SO-50: The advices of John (KG2YSI) are much more relevant than mine as he is an expert in portable satellite work and have made many successful demonstrations of same, more experience than me with portable work anyway as being a time to time portable OP. I was never successful to work SO-50 portable (Baofengs, 2W & Arrow), however perfect on it at main QTH station with 5W (transceiver minimum), 30M of RG213 into a 15 ele X-yagi. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:30 PM, John Brier > wrote: > > It was suggested that you need "a few more watts" to use SO-50. That is definitely not the case. I have worked it many times with only 500 mW, even on busy passes, getting in full-quieting. I have also gotten into it with an acceptable signal with only 50 mW on empty relatively high elevation passes. It does has a relatively weak downlink though (250 mW). > > Regarding AO-85, it is a little deaf and it's true it's because of an antenna issue. I have some info about it and a "twist trick" fix documented here: > > https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/ao-85-twist-trick-and-other-hints/ > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Don KB2YSI > wrote: > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no > table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only > tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. > > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for > the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in > the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement > in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at > hamqth.com/KB2YSI > > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. AO-85 > is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing I do > seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are crazy > easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer as a > filter) setup. > > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk > offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but > it has been incredibly fun time! > > > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple > > wrote: > > > Hugo, > > > > Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with > > only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf > > power) > > > > I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s > > which trigger Francois venture on the birds. > > > > 73 > > > > Jean Marc > > > > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used the > > 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and the > > antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening for > > myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera tripod > > to free my hand > > > > > > ? > > > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hugo, > > >> > > >> Just to share experience. > > >> > > >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and AO92, > > crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew Arrow type > > of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made QSO?s with > > South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. > > >> > > >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the > > repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few > > more W for clear QSO. > > >> > > >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between > > 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. > > >> > > >> > > >> Hope this help. > > >> > > >> > > >> 73 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by handhelds. > > They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive antenna and > > that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts sufficient for AO-92, > > AO-85 and SO-50? > > >>> > > >>> ? > > >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >>> > > >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on > > SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in > > error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some > > more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been > > using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the > > mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... > > >>>> > > >>>> 73, > > >>>> > > >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > > wrote: > > >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by > > starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has > > instructions to do it how I am doing it: > > https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for > > uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup > > for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was > > on the L band. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ? > > >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start > > high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would > > start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the > > satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher > > frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and > > lower after the satellite passes. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 73, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < > > glasbrenner at mindspring.com > wrote: > > >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM > > sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear > > while transmitting. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB > On Behalf Of Hugo > > Dominguez, Jr. > > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM > > >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to > > hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have > > programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic > > log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been > > successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I > > triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are > > set as follows: > > >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone > > >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz > > >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz > > >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ > > >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz > > >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I > > adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, > > 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I > > missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ? > > >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > >>>>>>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wmc_jx at 163.com Sat Jun 9 09:11:49 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 17:11:49 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan Message-ID: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! And the following tests for UHF are planned: 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC VY TN & 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From inservice2him at hotmail.com Fri Jun 8 22:21:44 2018 From: inservice2him at hotmail.com (Kirk P) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 22:21:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SATPC tracking help needed Message-ID: Greetings all. Trying without success to get my IC-9100 to track with SATPC. Elmer needed if you've got it going. Running SatPC32 V.12.8d (2018) Thank you in advance Kirk, N0KK Sent from Outlook From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 15:56:48 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:56:48 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: Wei, Thanks for the update. I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: > > Hi OMs, > > > Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! > > > And the following tests for UHF are planned: > > > 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, > 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, > 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, > 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC > > > VY TN & 73! > > > Wei BG2BHC > > > > > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wmc_jx at 163.com Sat Jun 9 16:33:29 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 00:33:29 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: Hi Jean, Which recording and flowchart did you use? for 2MHz recording, you should use frontend_dslwp_replay.grc in gr_dslwp/examples. replay_dslwp_gmsk_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc in dslwp_dev is used for 40kHz recording. Best Regards, Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-09 23:56:48, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: >Wei, > >Thanks for the update. > >I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. > >Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? > >Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? > >73 > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: >> >> Hi OMs, >> >> >> Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! >> >> >> And the following tests for UHF are planned: >> >> >> 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, >> 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, >> 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, >> 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC >> >> >> VY TN & 73! >> >> >> Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wmc_jx at 163.com Sat Jun 9 16:40:29 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 00:40:29 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: <46fcabc6.6ad1.163e56bacd3.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, Sorry I made a mistake, the last session should be 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 11 Jun 16:00 UTC. Best Regards, Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-09 17:11:49, "???" wrote: Hi OMs, Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! And the following tests for UHF are planned: 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC VY TN & 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From kb2m at arrl.net Sat Jun 9 17:11:13 2018 From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:11:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 Message-ID: <009701d40014$df434260$9dc9c720$@net> I'm having an issue with the USB drivers for my IC-9100 WIN10 1803 setup that I'm setting up for FD. Odd thing is I have it working on other WIN10 PC's running 1803. Is anyone having the same issue? I'm trying to setup an HP Spectre PRO x360 G1 i7 laptop. I've tried all the fixes online and none seem to work. 73 Jeff kb2m From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 17:14:19 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 21:14:19 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> Wei, Thanks for prompt answer. OK, got it working fine, but not not sure if uploading to you. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:33 PM, ??? wrote: > > Hi Jean, > > Which recording and flowchart did you use? > > for 2MHz recording, you should use frontend_dslwp_replay.grc in gr_dslwp/examples. > > replay_dslwp_gmsk_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc in dslwp_dev is used for 40kHz recording. > > Best Regards, > > Wei > > > > > > -- > WEI Mingchuan > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com ; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > > At 2018-06-09 23:56:48, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: > >Wei, > > > >Thanks for the update. > > > >I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. > > > >Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? > > > >Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? > > > >73 > > > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: > >> > >> Hi OMs, > >> > >> > >> Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! > >> > >> > >> And the following tests for UHF are planned: > >> > >> > >> 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, > >> 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, > >> 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, > >> 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC > >> > >> > >> VY TN & 73! > >> > >> > >> Wei BG2BHC > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> WEI Mingchuan > >> > >> > >> Research Center of Satellite Technology > >> Harbin Institute of Technology > >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 18:00:10 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 14:00:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nevada Space and Science Center demo + JSC on AO-91 at 1826 UTC in ~30 min Message-ID: I just corresponded with Johnson Space Center ARC W5RRR on Twitter. They are going to try and contact Nevada Space and Science Center. The center will be using callsign K7RC. It's only 5 degrees for them but they will be demoing to boy scouts and other guests. JSC will also be on the air as a part of NASA On The Air: https://nasaontheair.wordpress.com/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV From wmc_jx at 163.com Sat Jun 9 18:18:43 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:18:43 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1e09011a.1e4.163e5c59dd2.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> HI Jean, Can you see any message on proxy says something like websocket success? 73! Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-10 01:14:19, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: Wei, Thanks for prompt answer. OK, got it working fine, but not not sure if uploading to you. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:33 PM, ??? wrote: Hi Jean, Which recording and flowchart did you use? for 2MHz recording, you should use frontend_dslwp_replay.grc in gr_dslwp/examples. replay_dslwp_gmsk_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc in dslwp_dev is used for 40kHz recording. Best Regards, Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-09 23:56:48, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: >Wei, > >Thanks for the update. > >I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. > >Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? > >Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? > >73 > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: >> >> Hi OMs, >> >> >> Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! >> >> >> And the following tests for UHF are planned: >> >> >> 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, >> 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, >> 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, >> 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC >> >> >> VY TN & 73! >> >> >> Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From awatts44 at comcast.net Sat Jun 9 18:32:51 2018 From: awatts44 at comcast.net (Alfred Watts) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:32:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SATPC tracking help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016d01d40020$4a179540$de46bfc0$@comcast.net> Kirk I use SAT32PC Ver. 12.8c on a laptop running Windows 10 and an IC-9100. I assume your IC-9100 is connected to the PC via a USB cable. Some things I would check: Is the device driver for the IC-9100 Installed? Does the IC-9100 talk to other software such as HRD? In SAT32PC go to Setup>Radio Setup Is the Icom button in the Radio 1 panel checked? Click on Model in the drop-down box. The windows below should say IC-9100 Click on Baudrate in the drop-down box. The windows below should say 9600 Click on Addresses in the drop-down box. The windows below should say $7C $7C. (This are the default addresses in the IC-9100. They can be changed in the IC-9100 but they must match the addresses set in SAT32PC.) In the Com Port Window my setup shows Com Port 6 but this will vary depending on other USB devices. It can also change when change USB devices. You might try different Com Port numbers. The Cat Delay box should show 70. The Satellite Mode box should be checked. The RTS, DTR and KCT boxes should be unchecked. At the bottom right corner of the SAT32PC main window does it show Doppl. Corr: Up/Dwn ? Then of course the in the upper left of the SAT32PC window there should be C+ showing when you click on it. If there is some other setting that you would like to compare e-mail me directly. Hope this helps. 73 Al - AF5VH -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Kirk P Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 5:22 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SATPC tracking help needed Greetings all. Trying without success to get my IC-9100 to track with SATPC. Elmer needed if you've got it going. Running SatPC32 V.12.8d (2018) Thank you in advance Kirk, N0KK Sent from Outlook _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From scott23192 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 21:44:15 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 17:44:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: Until we hear from Wei (considering the differences in local time of day), a quick question, please. What flowgraph were you running to try to replay a sample file? Also, were you using a .RAW, or a .RAW_PACKAGE file? Others might be able to help with those particulars. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR ========================== On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Jean Marc Momple < jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote: > Wei, > > Thanks for the update. > > I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw > file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract > sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to > get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully > it. > > Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned > in your mail as cannot find it? > > Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? > > 73 > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: > > > > Hi OMs, > > > > > > Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for > successful downlink report. Hope it may help! > > > > > > And the following tests for UHF are planned: > > > > > > 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, > > 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, > > 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, > > 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC > > > > > > VY TN & 73! > > > > > > Wei BG2BHC > > > > -- > > > > WEI Mingchuan > > > > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > > Harbin Institute of Technology > > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From holst.hauke at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 21:05:03 2018 From: holst.hauke at gmail.com (Hauke Holst) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2018 23:05:03 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Open-Source Space Workshop 2018 Message-ID: <773fc2d6f41b1c493669d0cd64dd687856f13d02.camel@gmail.com> Hi all, a friend of mine together with the Libre Space Foundation (https://libre.space/) is organizing the "Open-Source Space Workshop 2018". The workshop will take place at 1st of October 2018 in Bremen Germany, in the context of the International Astronautical Congress (https://www.iac2018.org/). The organizers asked me to distribute the announcement letter to the AMSAT-Community ( Letter as PDF for Download: https://c.gmx.net/@334355653436899718/72yTDMXXQ1ylDThBgo96cA). The organizers are looking for participants, possible panelists and sponsors. Please don't hesitate to distribute the letter to anybody who might be interested in this kind of workshop. Regards & 73s Hauke Holst, DH4CK From kb2m at arrl.net Sat Jun 9 23:47:46 2018 From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:47:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 In-Reply-To: <009701d40014$df434260$9dc9c720$@net> References: <009701d40014$df434260$9dc9c720$@net> Message-ID: <007001d4004c$451278e0$cf376aa0$@net> Ok. I will add to this. I had no problem connecting the following USB devices with no driver upgrades needed to my new laptop. FT-817 with a USB 62c, or a 11 year old K3 with new USB add on connectivity. Plug and play. I even went back to WIN10 ver 1709 and STILL can't get the 9100 USB to work. >From the Icom website... We have an update from our previous posting regarding the compatibility between the latest version of Windows 10 and Icom Drivers used on the IC-R8600, IC-7300 and IC-7610. Icom Inc. has confirmed there is an issue and are in the process of developing an update which they will add to their global website download page. In the meantime, we have been given four solutions to fix the issue temporarily: . Download USB driver 10.1.2 (updated on 14. May 2018) from Silicon Labs web site. . Download USB driver 6.7.5 (updated on 13. Oct. 2017) from Silicon Labs web site. This driver is commonly used in OS Windows 7, 8., and Windows 10. . Use the latest version of our USB Driver from the Icom Inc.global web site (Version is 1.20 for IC-7100/ IC-7200/ IC-7300/ IC-7410/ IC-7600/ IC-7610/ IC-7850/ IC-7851/ IC-9100). As marked driver's information is 6.7.0. . Use PC Windows 10 version 1709. As soon as we have anymore information, we will post on our website. Well in my case none of this works. I'm fortunate that I have a backup laptop that will work for FD. It makes you wonder though, why does Icom always have all these stupid connectivity issues. I was thinking of selling my Flex VU5K, and IC-9100 and getting an IC-9700 but now I'm rethinking that... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of jeff griffin Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 1:11 PM To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 I'm having an issue with the USB drivers for my IC-9100 WIN10 1803 setup that I'm setting up for FD. Odd thing is I have it working on other WIN10 PC's running 1803. Is anyone having the same issue? I'm trying to setup an HP Spectre PRO x360 G1 i7 laptop. I've tried all the fixes online and none seem to work. 73 Jeff kb2m _______________________________________________ From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 01:07:18 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 21:07:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-161 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-161 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. ******************************************************************** * * * Deadline For AMSAT Board of Directors Nominations is June 15 * * See More Information Below * * * ******************************************************************** In this edition: * AMSAT-NA Facebook Group moves to New Group Page * Deadline For AMSAT Board of Directors Nominations is June 15 * New Items in AMSAT Store * First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan * US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections * Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-161.01 ANS-161 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 161.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. June 10, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-161.01 AMSAT Facebook Group Moves to New Facebook Group Page The AMSAT-NA group that has existed for over a decade, no longer serves as the official Facebook group of AMSAT. Please join us at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/752128438309103/ Shortly, the AMSAT logo and name will be removed from this group's pages in accordance with Facebook's Intellectual Property Policy. AMSAT officers and board members no longer hold any role on that particular group and Facebook's policy is, the creator of the group, owns that group's resources. For the most current information and discussion about AMSAT's activities, please join us on our new group. This new group has been placed under corporate ownership under legal advice and to insure the latest information and discussion from AMSAT. [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Deadline For AMSAT Board of Directors Nominations is June 15 It's time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election. Three directors' terms expire this year: Tom Clark, K3IO, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and Bruce Paige, KK5DO. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one-year terms. A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304 Kensington, MD 20895-2526. In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by electronic means. These include e-mail, fax, or electronic image of a petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to martha at amsat.org or faxed to (301)822-4371. No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June 15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days following the close of nominations on June 15th. ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS. (Editor's Note: Nominating and electing your Board of Directors is your most important benefit of being an AMSAT member.) [ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- New Items in AMSAT Store The AMSAT Store has three new items. New for 2018 is the AMSAT Hat. Now available in sizes Small (which fits small/medium sized heads) and Large (which fits large/xlarge size heads). We also have the new for 2018 T-Shirts in multiple sizes and the 2018 Golf Shirt in multiple sizes. Only small amount of each has been inventoried, as such the AMSAT office is still unpacking boxes. As soon as an accurate count for each size and item is acquired, an appropriate update to the site will be made. (Editor's Note: Also available is the 2018 "Getting Started" Guide) [ANS thanks Bruce KK5DO for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan On 2 Jun and 3 Jun we had 2 successfully tests on the UHF downlink of DSLWP-B after lunar orbit insertion. BY2HIT and PI9CAM team successfully decoded 39 GMSK packets from the satellite. SP5ULN and M0IEB also detected signals from the satellite with much smaller antenna, but the decode was not fully successful. Two weeks ago, when the satellites were launched on 20 May, UHF signals from both satellites was received by PY2SDR, CD3NDC, PY4ZBZ and N6RFM. The subsequent tests are planned from 4 Jun 22:00 UTC to 5 Jun 00:00 UTC, and from 5 Jun 08:00 UTC to 5 Jun 10:00 UTC. The mode is 250 bps GMSK for both 435.4 MHz and 436.4 MHz. Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt [ANS thanks Wei BG2BHC for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections June 08, 2018 - The ARISS-US Team (Amateur Radio on the International Space Station) is pleased to announce schools or organizations submitting proposals have been selected to advance to the next stage of planning to host amateur radio contacts from January to June 2019. The contacts will be with International Space Station (ISS) crew members using the ARISS equipment on the ISS. A review team of teachers from the ARISS-US Education Committee selected proposals after the recent proposal window closed. The groups will go forward to Phase 2, developing an amateur radio equipment plan to host a scheduled ARISS contact. ARISS's primary goal is to engage people in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) activities, and involve them in pursuits related to space exploration, amateur radio, communications, and associated areas of study and career options. Cord Davidson, KD5J, at Central Magnet Middle School in Batesville, AR, exclaimed after a recent ARISS contact, "ARISS shows how amateur radio is the most unique hobby there is, and from the educator's perspective, what a great way to encourage STEM topics!" ARISS anticipates that NASA will be able to provide scheduling opportunities for these US host organizations. The candidates must now complete an equipment plan that demonstrates their ability to execute the ham radio contact. Once their equipment plan is approved by the ARISS technical team, the final selected schools / organizations will be scheduled as their availability and flexibility match up with the scheduling opportunities. The schools and organizations are: Faith Christian Academy, Orlando, FL Hidden Oaks Middle School, Prior Lake, MN Huntington High School, Huntington, TX Moriah Central School, Port Henry, NY NIH-National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences Children's Inn, Bethesda, MD Park Co. Public Library with Boys & Girls Club of the High Rockies, Fairplay, CO Pembroke Junior Senior High School, Corfu, NY ABOUT ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) in the United States, and other international space agencies and international amateur radio organizations around the world. The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers from radio clubs and coordination from the ARISS team, the ISS crew members speak directly with large group audiences in a variety of public forums such as school assemblies, science centers and museums, scout camporees, jamborees and space camps, where students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and amateur radio. This is an excellent opportunity to become involeved while directly supporting the AMSAT mission on a regular basis. Find more information at www.ariss.org, and also www.amsat.organd www.arrl.org [ANS thanks ARISS and Dave for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors The AMSAT News Service (ANS) is seeking volunteers to serve as rotating editors for its weekly newsletter. Editors work on a rotating schedule, each taking a different turn editing a specific week's newsletter as scheduled by the ANS Editor in Chief. Editors support each other by seeking and reporting to the Editor of the week, information and resources of interest to the AMSAT community. The number of newsletters assigned will be dependent upon the number of available editors at any given time. The average editor can expect to spend, on average, 4-5 hours for each newsletter, dependent on available material. Prospective editors are required to be AMSAT members in good standing and have a genuine interest in satellite operation and an understanding of AMSAT's mission. Former editing experience is a plus but not required. If interested, please submit an inquiry, including your contact information to ans-editor at amsat.com. [ANS thanks the ANS editors for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Recent Successful Contacts: + 2018-05-15 08:22 UTC between Scott Tingle KG5NZA (Exp 54), using ISS callsign NA1SS, and University of the Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines. Contact was telebridge via W6SRJ. ARISS Mentor was Satoshi 7M3TJZ. + 2018-05-22 08:53 UTC between Scott Tingle KG5NZA (Exp 54), using ISS callsign NA1SS and Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden. Contact was telebridge via K6DUE. ARISS Mentor was Eskil SM5SRR. + 2018-05-23 11:06 UTC between Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (Exp 55), using ISS callsign NA1SS ands Janusz Kusocinski Primary School No. 71, Poznan, Poland. Contact was telebridge via W6SRJ Contact was live Streamed via https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/ ARISS Mentor was Armand SP3QFE. + 2018-05-31 16:58 UTC Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (Exp 55), using ISS callsign NA1SS and Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands. Contact was telebridge via VK4KHZ. ARISS Mentor was Bertus PE1KEH Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule There are no contacts scheduled for the coming week. The following astronauts are currently on board the ISS: Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + May/June 2018 Apogee View Posted The May/June 2018 edition of Apogee View, an update on AMSAT's activities from AMSAT President Joe Spier, K6WAO, has been posted to the AMSAT website: https://www.amsat.org/apogeeview/ [ANS thanks N8HM for the above information] + Astronaut Drew Morgan who will be joining Luca Parmitano, KF5KDP and Alexander Skvortsov on the ISS during Expedition 60 has acquired his Technician Class license and has been assigned callsign KI5AAA. http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=4049809 [ANS thanks Kenneth N5VHO for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sun Jun 10 01:56:34 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 21:56:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun Message-ID: <000601d4005e$4339e320$c9ada960$@mindspring.com> .subject says it all. 73, Drew KO4MA From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 10 05:26:41 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 05:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1511656365.2976838.1528608401084@mail.yahoo.com> I have seen MS suggesting restarting the PC for a lot issues these days, even for Win10.? Based on that observation, have you tried unplugging every thing and restarting the laptop and plugging only the 9100 back ? Just a thought. GL es 73,? Umesh K6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:11:13 -0400 From: "jeff griffin" To: Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 Message-ID: <009701d40014$df434260$9dc9c720$@net> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" I'm having an issue with the USB drivers for my IC-9100 WIN10 1803 setup that I'm setting up for FD. Odd thing is I have it working on other? WIN10 PC's running 1803. Is anyone having the same issue? I'm trying to setup an HP Spectre PRO x360 G1 i7 laptop.? I've tried all the fixes online and none seem to work. 73 Jeff kb2m ------------------------------ From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:25:46 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:25:46 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wei & all, Everything working this side, decoded the raw file and uploaded on the server successfully. Unfortunately could not take the opportunity of this morning transmission as a brand new preamplifier installed yesterday (tested OK) blew the fuse this morning and went SK. I replaced it today. So ready for tomorrow?s transmission and if ever possible to receive the sat with a 2 x 15 ele. circular polarized antenna, DBA-270 preamp + 30m of 1/2? heliax feeder, I should make it. If not will wait for JT-4 transmission. Any idea what is the best Polarization RHCP or LHCP? would be useful to start with the best one. In any case, as I would be at work during the pass, I will ask the XYL to change pol every 15 minutes anyway. Thanks for all who helped me getting the setup working. Really appreciated, quite a good learning exercise. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 9, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > > Wei, > > Thanks for prompt answer. > > OK, got it working fine, but not not sure if uploading to you. > > 73 > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:33 PM, ??? > wrote: >> >> Hi Jean, >> >> Which recording and flowchart did you use? >> >> for 2MHz recording, you should use frontend_dslwp_replay.grc in gr_dslwp/examples. >> >> replay_dslwp_gmsk_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc in dslwp_dev is used for 40kHz recording. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Wei >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com ; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> >> >> At 2018-06-09 23:56:48, "Jean Marc Momple" > wrote: >> >Wei, >> > >> >Thanks for the update. >> > >> >I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. >> > >> >Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? >> > >> >Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? >> > >> >73 >> > >> >Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> > >> >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi OMs, >> >> >> >> >> >> Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! >> >> >> >> >> >> And the following tests for UHF are planned: >> >> >> >> >> >> 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, >> >> 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, >> >> 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, >> >> 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC >> >> >> >> >> >> VY TN & 73! >> >> >> >> >> >> Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> >> >> >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com ; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > From wmc_jx at 163.com Sun Jun 10 14:01:37 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:01:37 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69d561b5.5047.163ea0098b8.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi Jean, LHCP or RHCP would not matter, as we are using linear polarization antenna onboard. Expecting your results! Best Regards, Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-10 20:25:46, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: Wei & all, Everything working this side, decoded the raw file and uploaded on the server successfully. Unfortunately could not take the opportunity of this morning transmission as a brand new preamplifier installed yesterday (tested OK) blew the fuse this morning and went SK. I replaced it today. So ready for tomorrow?s transmission and if ever possible to receive the sat with a 2 x 15 ele. circular polarized antenna, DBA-270 preamp + 30m of 1/2? heliax feeder, I should make it. If not will wait for JT-4 transmission. Any idea what is the best Polarization RHCP or LHCP? would be useful to start with the best one. In any case, as I would be at work during the pass, I will ask the XYL to change pol every 15 minutes anyway. Thanks for all who helped me getting the setup working. Really appreciated, quite a good learning exercise. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) On Jun 9, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: Wei, Thanks for prompt answer. OK, got it working fine, but not not sure if uploading to you. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:33 PM, ??? wrote: Hi Jean, Which recording and flowchart did you use? for 2MHz recording, you should use frontend_dslwp_replay.grc in gr_dslwp/examples. replay_dslwp_gmsk_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc in dslwp_dev is used for 40kHz recording. Best Regards, Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com At 2018-06-09 23:56:48, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: >Wei, > >Thanks for the update. > >I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. > >Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? > >Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? > >73 > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: >> >> Hi OMs, >> >> >> Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! >> >> >> And the following tests for UHF are planned: >> >> >> 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, >> 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, >> 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, >> 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC >> >> >> VY TN & 73! >> >> >> Wei BG2BHC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> WEI Mingchuan >> >> >> Research Center of Satellite Technology >> Harbin Institute of Technology >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From listk7age at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 16:48:42 2018 From: listk7age at gmail.com (Randy Hall) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:48:42 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Joe Talks Cubesats Message-ID: Joe Spier K6WAO AMSAT President talks about cubesats on the beach at the SEA-PAC hamfest. He also tried to make a contact through a satellite but didn't have success. No video of that. K7AGE Video 73 Randy, K7AGE From jim at milnet.uk.net Sun Jun 10 17:17:19 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:17:19 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: <3E8697497CF6461BA33C05D9B7EBED37@jimPC2> Hi folks, I have just changed the sat into education mode (full power beacon in sunlight, low power beacon plus transponder on in darkness). I will be switching mode as normal to full time transponder mode on sometime on next Fri pm UTC . 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team. From ks1g04 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 18:15:48 2018 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:15:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor control with SatPC32ISS Message-ID: Long-time SatPC32 user but new to SatPC32ISS. Rig control works fine, but I can't get rotor control working in SatPC32ISS. Guessing that SatPC32ISS is not launching the rotor control server SatPC32 uses. Suggestions? Does SatPC32ISS default to the same config file as SatPC32, or does it default to Confguration 1? (I'm using Config II with SatPC32). Have not found anything (yet) in the SatPC32 docs. Thanks, 73 Steve KS1G From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 18:51:11 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 11:51:11 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun In-Reply-To: <000601d4005e$4339e320$c9ada960$@mindspring.com> References: <000601d4005e$4339e320$c9ada960$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Hi Drew, Are the plans to follow this schedule for the Field Day weekend? Greg KO6TH Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > > .subject says it all. > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sun Jun 10 20:40:00 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:40:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun In-Reply-To: References: <000601d4005e$4339e320$c9ada960$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <001f01d400fb$33b888f0$9b299ad0$@mindspring.com> I'd like to run L for part of the weekend, but it will have to be the first half. I can't commit to an exact time for the change, but will probably try Friday evening. If you have L capability, this is the way to an easy 100 points. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: Greg D Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:51 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun Hi Drew, Are the plans to follow this schedule for the Field Day weekend? Greg KO6TH Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > > .subject says it all. > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jun 11 01:10:12 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for May 2018 In-Reply-To: <9B04FF1E3D7344A2B0DCE139245541EF@Ron8300PC> References: <9B04FF1E3D7344A2B0DCE139245541EF@Ron8300PC> Message-ID: <770066744.3256600.1528679412994@mail.yahoo.com> Ron, Thanks for keeping this updated every month! BTW, many of the FT8 folks are involved in the ARRL Grid Chase and want to keep their monthly and cumulative scores up to date as quickly as possible. That would be why you see the LoTW QSLs coming in so fast. 73, Bob K8BL ________________________________ From: Ronald G. Parsons To: AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 11:51 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for May 2018 Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period May 1, 2018 through Jun 1, 2018. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL 01 May 2018 01 Jun 2018 KO4MA 1598 1627 KD8CAO 1240 1253 N8HM 1025 1054 N8RO 1040 1051 K4FEG 877 901 K6FW 703 743 N9IP 589 609 N6UK 551 568 K5ND 502 526 WD9EWK 430 441 KE4AL 317 379 NS3L 300 325 VE7CEW 292 304 AA9LC New 299 AA8CH 218 256 G0ABI 124 200 N3GS 130 198 AA4FL 164 181 KE8FZT 100 175 XE1SEW New 130 WU2M New 105 KB2YSI New 101 PU8MRS New 100 If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at @.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for May 1, 2018 and June May 1, 2018. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! EDITORIAL: Excuse the bandwidth. I took a little detour from chasing grids to try FT8 on 6 meters. What amazed me was the quickness of QSLs on LoTW, often finding the QSL awaiting when I uploaded my QSO. Why are the FT8-ers so fast compared with my experience on satellites. My guess is that FT8 QSOs are done with computer software with logging capability. But that can't be the entire reason. Most of our wonderful rovers are extremely fast getting their audio recording logs uploaded to LoTW. So motivation has to be part of the solution. Satellites can be worked without computer assistance, but Doppler control, pass prediction and logging make the activity more enjoyable for me. Some of the rovers should publish their procedure for logging to LoTW. Most logging programs will upload to LoTW. Even the TQSL program for LoTW handles hand-input parameters. And LoTW is the easiest way to apply for ARRL Awards. Perhaps my disappointment after working a needed grid and not getting an LoTW QSL can be relieved. 73, Ron W5RKN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wandtosborne at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 02:09:55 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:09:55 +1200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Junior Woodchucks guide to AO-91 Message-ID: Hi Folks, Some time ago I wrote up a guide to AO-85 for my local club magazine. I have now updated it for AO-91. If it is of use to anyone, help yourself. https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4re1rkr1ym8st2/Working%20the%20AO91%20Fox-1B%20FM%20Repeater.pdf?dl=0 73, Terry Osborne ZL2BAC AMSAT-NA Member 6849 From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 10:50:00 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_Marc_Mompl=C3=A9?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:50:00 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Successful Configurations and Subsequent UHF Test Plan In-Reply-To: References: <4d9a0691.450d.163e3d0e8ca.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> <602DCC86-FEB3-474E-AE7B-148022E60AB6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear All, Tested this morning during DSLWP (Longjiang 2) Tx between 06:00 and 08:00 UTC, no luck no signal received in spite everything OK and tested several times yesterday. The set-up is RTL SDR (tried also with TS-2000), feeder: 30m of 1/2" heliax + 3m of RG213, DBA-270 preamp and Hy-gain UB-7030SAT antenna, basically the same station I used for LEO's. More or less expected, but was worth giving it a try, hopefully it will work with JT4. I will try again GMSK, particularly if there is a night transmission in future (less noise). First quick conclusion is that I need much more antenna gain for the GMSK mode (some already mentioned that), need to figure out what mechanically possible on my apartment roof to get maximum possible gain. To those successful today congratulations. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) On 10 June 2018 at 16:25, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > Wei & all, > > Everything working this side, decoded the raw file and uploaded on the > server successfully. > > Unfortunately could not take the opportunity of this morning transmission > as a brand new preamplifier installed yesterday (tested OK) blew the fuse > this morning and went SK. I replaced it today. > > So ready for tomorrow?s transmission and if ever possible to receive the > sat with a 2 x 15 ele. circular polarized antenna, DBA-270 preamp + 30m of > 1/2? heliax feeder, I should make it. If not will wait for JT-4 > transmission. > > Any idea what is the best Polarization RHCP or LHCP? would be useful to > start with the best one. In any case, as I would be at work during the > pass, I will ask the XYL to change pol every 15 minutes anyway. > > Thanks for all who helped me getting the setup working. Really > appreciated, quite a good learning exercise. > > 73 > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jean Marc Momple > wrote: > > Wei, > > Thanks for prompt answer. > > OK, got it working fine, but not not sure if uploading to you. > > 73 > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:33 PM, ??? wrote: > > Hi Jean, > > Which recording and flowchart did you use? > > for 2MHz recording, you should use frontend_dslwp_replay.grc in > gr_dslwp/examples. > > replay_dslwp_gmsk_250bps_0.5_coherent.grc in dslwp_dev is used for 40kHz > recording. > > Best Regards, > > Wei > > > > > > -- > WEI Mingchuan > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > > At 2018-06-09 23:56:48, "Jean Marc Momple" wrote: > >Wei, > > > >Thanks for the update. > > > >I got everything working today, but could not try decoder with the raw file, getting error c?RuntimeError: file_meta_source: Could not extract sample rate.?. Also change my 30m 70cm feeder from RG213 to Heliax 1/2? to get some more dB and also put a better preamp for some reasons, hopefully it. > > > >Could you please send the link for the updated radio info page mentioned in your mail as cannot find it? > > > >Will monitor tomorrow morning and hopefully receive some signal? > > > >73 > > > >Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:11 PM, ??? wrote: > >> > >> Hi OMs, > >> > >> > >> Just updated the radio info page of DSLWP with some configurations for successful downlink report. Hope it may help! > >> > >> > >> And the following tests for UHF are planned: > >> > >> > >> 10 Jun 03:40 UTC to 10 Jun 05:40 UTC, > >> 10 Jun 22:00 UTC to 11 Jun 00:00 UTC, > >> 11 Jun 06:00 UTC to 11 Jun 08:00 UTC, > >> 11 Jun 14:00 UTC to 12 Jun 16:00 UTC > >> > >> > >> VY TN & 73! > >> > >> > >> Wei BG2BHC > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> WEI Mingchuan > >> > >> > >> Research Center of Satellite Technology > >> Harbin Institute of Technology > >> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > >> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com ; bg2bhc at gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > From marklhammond at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 11:14:42 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:14:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor control with SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve, I think it worked best for me to use the normal SatPC32 to get rotors and radio all working first. Then switch to the ISS exe. Only change then is frequency. Mark N8MH On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 10:04 PM Stephan Greene wrote: > Long-time SatPC32 user but new to SatPC32ISS. Rig control works fine, but > I can't get rotor control working in SatPC32ISS. Guessing that SatPC32ISS > is not launching the rotor control server SatPC32 uses. Suggestions? Does > SatPC32ISS default to the same config file as SatPC32, or does it default > to Confguration 1? (I'm using Config II with SatPC32). Have not found > anything (yet) in the SatPC32 docs. > > Thanks, 73 Steve KS1G > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From inservice2him at hotmail.com Sun Jun 10 15:08:28 2018 From: inservice2him at hotmail.com (Kirk P) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:08:28 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SATPC tracking help needed In-Reply-To: <016d01d40020$4a179540$de46bfc0$@comcast.net> References: , <016d01d40020$4a179540$de46bfc0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Alfred and others. TU! It appears to now be tracking along. Im not sure why, but it does seem to loose connections at times. Im using the MicroHam MK2R+ as my interface as I do with all my software. For some reason this was hard to get communicating. The issue was in the HEX address. For my VHF contesting this weekend I was using Writelog and it does not have IC-9100 as option of all things. So I had to emulate another ICOM for it to talk. While running SATPC on another screen It was looking for the 9100 address but not getting it. Once I was told how to do the drop down and set address in SATPC it made sense...simple but overlooked..as it usually is. Will be good to get back on the birds after about 5 years. New KNWD HT and ELK and soon Ill have larger ants ready for home qth on az/el rotor now that EME sation is down for summer. Again, thanks to all. Kirk, N0KK EN35 Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Alfred Watts Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 1:32 PM To: 'Kirk P'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SATPC tracking help needed Kirk I use SAT32PC Ver. 12.8c on a laptop running Windows 10 and an IC-9100. I assume your IC-9100 is connected to the PC via a USB cable. Some things I would check: Is the device driver for the IC-9100 Installed? Does the IC-9100 talk to other software such as HRD? In SAT32PC go to Setup>Radio Setup Is the Icom button in the Radio 1 panel checked? Click on Model in the drop-down box. The windows below should say IC-9100 Click on Baudrate in the drop-down box. The windows below should say 9600 Click on Addresses in the drop-down box. The windows below should say $7C $7C. (This are the default addresses in the IC-9100. They can be changed in the IC-9100 but they must match the addresses set in SAT32PC.) In the Com Port Window my setup shows Com Port 6 but this will vary depending on other USB devices. It can also change when change USB devices. You might try different Com Port numbers. The Cat Delay box should show 70. The Satellite Mode box should be checked. The RTS, DTR and KCT boxes should be unchecked. At the bottom right corner of the SAT32PC main window does it show Doppl. Corr: Up/Dwn ? Then of course the in the upper left of the SAT32PC window there should be C+ showing when you click on it. If there is some other setting that you would like to compare e-mail me directly. Hope this helps. 73 Al - AF5VH -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Kirk P Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 5:22 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SATPC tracking help needed Greetings all. Trying without success to get my IC-9100 to track with SATPC. Elmer needed if you've got it going. Running SatPC32 V.12.8d (2018) Thank you in advance Kirk, N0KK Sent from Outlook _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jun 11 14:25:38 2018 From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:25:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 In-Reply-To: <007001d4004c$451278e0$cf376aa0$@net> References: <009701d40014$df434260$9dc9c720$@net> <007001d4004c$451278e0$cf376aa0$@net> Message-ID: <037101d40190$11fb7e80$35f27b80$@net> Problem solved, a comedy of errors. When WIN10 1803 stated to install itself bit by bit I lost connectivity with my 9100. Not knowing what was going in on (the formal install of 1803 didn't start yet) First thing I tried was a different USB cable. What had caused the original problem (WIN10 1803 compatibly issue with the USB drivers used by Icom) turned into two issues, I added a bad USB cable to the mix. Also the USB driver version 1.30 wasn't posted to the Icom USA website till this morning, I found a copy at the Icom UK website. So this morning after some Coffee I back tracked everything I did, even un installed 1803. After installing the 1.30 drivers, and with the first USB cable all is working again. Bad cable, and ver 1.20 both are trash :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: jeff griffin [mailto:kb2m at arrl.net] Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 7:48 PM To: 'jeff griffin'; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 Ok. I will add to this. I had no problem connecting the following USB devices with no driver upgrades needed to my new laptop. FT-817 with a USB 62c, or a 11 year old K3 with new USB add on connectivity. Plug and play. I even went back to WIN10 ver 1709 and STILL can't get the 9100 USB to work. >From the Icom website... We have an update from our previous posting regarding the compatibility between the latest version of Windows 10 and Icom Drivers used on the IC-R8600, IC-7300 and IC-7610. Icom Inc. has confirmed there is an issue and are in the process of developing an update which they will add to their global website download page. In the meantime, we have been given four solutions to fix the issue temporarily: Download USB driver 10.1.2 (updated on 14. May 2018) from Silicon Labs web site. Download USB driver 6.7.5 (updated on 13. Oct. 2017) from Silicon Labs web site. This driver is commonly used in OS Windows 7, 8., and Windows 10. Use the latest version of our USB Driver from the Icom Inc.global web site (Version is 1.20 for IC-7100/ IC-7200/ IC-7300/ IC-7410/ IC-7600/ IC-7610/ IC-7850/ IC-7851/ IC-9100). As marked driver's information is 6.7.0. Use PC Windows 10 version 1709. As soon as we have anymore information, we will post on our website. Well in my case none of this works. I'm fortunate that I have a backup laptop that will work for FD. It makes you wonder though, why does Icom always have all these stupid connectivity issues. I was thinking of selling my Flex VU5K, and IC-9100 and getting an IC-9700 but now I'm rethinking that... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of jeff griffin Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 1:11 PM To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 USB driver issues with WIN10 PRO ver 1803 I'm having an issue with the USB drivers for my IC-9100 WIN10 1803 setup that I'm setting up for FD. Odd thing is I have it working on other WIN10 PC's running 1803. Is anyone having the same issue? I'm trying to setup an HP Spectre PRO x360 G1 i7 laptop. I've tried all the fixes online and none seem to work. 73 Jeff kb2m _______________________________________________ From dan at post.com Mon Jun 11 17:05:04 2018 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:05:04 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor control with SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used satpc32iss and it worked very similarly to the non ISS version. From what I remember it uses all the settings from the non iss version. As far as I remember the main difference is that it allows the two radios or one radio to be on the same band for transmit and receive, so it may be that the radio is set up for the same serial port as the rotator. The ISS version has some quirks particularly if you are only using one radio, as many radios work a bit weird when sending remote frequencies for same band split. Basically you are sending two frequencies to the one radio, but ICOM and some other radios do not really fully support it and sometimes the tx frequency ends up being written to the RX. Either way if using it for an ISS school contact test the hell out of the radio and rotator set up all combined. In the end I disconnected the radio Doppler correction (it is not really needed on vhf) and had satpc32 for rotator control only. I had to disconnect the radio Doppler while talking to an astronaut live in front of a school hall full of kids. I worked fine during the tests! On 10 Jun 2018 19:16, "Stephan Greene" wrote: > Long-time SatPC32 user but new to SatPC32ISS. Rig control works fine, but > I can't get rotor control working in SatPC32ISS. Guessing that SatPC32ISS > is not launching the rotor control server SatPC32 uses. Suggestions? Does > SatPC32ISS default to the same config file as SatPC32, or does it default > to Confguration 1? (I'm using Config II with SatPC32). Have not found > anything (yet) in the SatPC32 docs. > > Thanks, 73 Steve KS1G > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From KeithL at Lebs.org.uk Mon Jun 11 18:45:15 2018 From: KeithL at Lebs.org.uk (Keith D. Le Boutillier) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:45:15 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?b?RXPigJloYWlsIDI=?= Message-ID: Hi Amsat Whilst looking for some work related information I noticed that the Es?hail 2 satellite was now added to the SpaceX lunch manifest for an August 2018 launch. The last news that I had heard was the satellite was ready for shipment to the launch site. Is anybody able to confirm if this launch date is correct? Thanks Keith GU6EFB Upcoming Falcon launches NET Date [Launch window UTC] Vehicle Launch site Orbit Payload mass (kg) Payload(s) Customer 2018 Jun 29 [09:41] Falcon 9 ? + Dragon ? SLC-40 LEO 2410 / 900 SpX CRS-15 & ECOSTRESS, LEE NASA 2018 Jul Falcon 9 SLC-40 GTO ? Telstar 19V Telesat (Canada) 2018 Jul Falcon 9 SLC-40 GTO ? Telstar 18V (APStar 5C) Telesat (Canada) 2018 Jul Falcon 9 LC-4E PO 860 (x10) Iridium 7 (10 Satellites) Iridium Communications 2018 Aug Falcon 9 ? SLC-40 GTO ~5000 Telkom-4 Telkom (Indonesia) 2018 Aug Falcon 9 SLC-40 GTO ~3000 Es?hail 2 Es?hailSat (Qatar) 2018 Sep 30 Falcon 9 LC-4E SSO >1000 SSO-A Spaceflight Industries, Inc 2018 Sep Falcon 9 + Crew Dragon LC-39A LEO ? CCtCap Demo Mission 1 (DM-1) (uncrewed) NASA 2018 Oct Falcon 9 SLC-40 MEO 3680 GPS IIIA-1 USAF 2018 Oct Falcon 9 LC-4E PO 860 (x10) Iridium 8 (10 Satellites) Iridium Communications From peter.guelzow at kourou.de Mon Jun 11 20:31:36 2018 From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (Peter Guelzow) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:31:36 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?b?RXPigJloYWlsIDI=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44edf992-53af-a662-d8f0-4f4fb8d80c47@kourou.de> Hi Keith, No. We should definitely wait for official information released directly by SpaceX and Es'hailSat regarding the launch date for Es'hail-2. Any other sources should not be considered...? best 73s ?Peter, DB2OS ?AMSAT-DL Am 11.06.2018 um 20:45 schrieb Keith D. Le Boutillier: > > Hi Amsat > > Whilst looking for some work related information I noticed that the Es?hail 2 satellite was now added to the SpaceX lunch manifest for an August 2018 launch. > > The last news that I had heard was the satellite was ready for shipment to the launch site. Is anybody able to confirm if this launch date is correct? > > Thanks > > Keith GU6EFB > > > Upcoming Falcon launches > NET Date [Launch window UTC] > > Vehicle > > Launch site > > Orbit > > Payload mass (kg) > > Payload(s) > > Customer > > > > > > > > 2018 Jun 29 [09:41] > > Falcon 9 ? + Dragon ? > > SLC-40 > > LEO > > 2410 / 900 > > SpX CRS-15 & ECOSTRESS, LEE > > NASA > > > > 2018 Jul > > Falcon 9 > > SLC-40 > > GTO > > ? > > Telstar 19V > > Telesat (Canada) > > > > 2018 Jul > > Falcon 9 > > SLC-40 > > GTO > > ? > > Telstar 18V (APStar 5C) > > Telesat (Canada) > > > > 2018 Jul > > Falcon 9 > > LC-4E > > PO > > 860 (x10) > > Iridium 7 (10 Satellites) > > Iridium Communications > > > > 2018 Aug > > Falcon 9 ? > > SLC-40 > > GTO > > ~5000 > > Telkom-4 > > Telkom (Indonesia) > > > > 2018 Aug > > Falcon 9 > > SLC-40 > > GTO > > ~3000 > > Es?hail 2 > > Es?hailSat (Qatar) > > > > 2018 Sep 30 > > Falcon 9 > > LC-4E > > SSO > >> 1000 > SSO-A > > Spaceflight Industries, Inc > > > > 2018 Sep > > Falcon 9 + Crew Dragon > > LC-39A > > LEO > > ? > > CCtCap Demo Mission 1 (DM-1) (uncrewed) > > NASA > > > > 2018 Oct > > Falcon 9 > > SLC-40 > > MEO > > 3680 > > GPS IIIA-1 > > USAF > > > > 2018 Oct > > Falcon 9 > > LC-4E > > PO > > 860 (x10) > > Iridium 8 (10 Satellites) > > Iridium Communications > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ks1g04 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 00:44:54 2018 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 20:44:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor control with SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got a very timely reply from Erich, DK1TB. SatPCISS uses the information in Configuration 1. After I set up Config 1 with the rotor control settings I use in Config 2, SatPCISS controls rotors as well as radio. I suspected that was the case but hadn?t found it in documentation [subsequently found mention of renaming the DDE server further in the docs] or tried it on my own before I received Erich?s complete response. This is ANOTHER reason to register a copy ? exemplary support from the developer. PROBLEM SOLVED! Thank you to the other amsat-bb readers who responded via the list or direct. Now if Kenwood had only thought to support simultaneous radio control AND the internal TNC in the TS-2000?. (There are work-arounds so not that big of a deal.) Steve KS1G On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 2:15 PM Stephan Greene wrote: > Long-time SatPC32 user but new to SatPC32ISS. Rig control works fine, but > I can't get rotor control working in SatPC32ISS. Guessing that SatPC32ISS > is not launching the rotor control server SatPC32 uses. Suggestions? Does > SatPC32ISS default to the same config file as SatPC32, or does it default > to Confguration 1? (I'm using Config II with SatPC32). Have not found > anything (yet) in the SatPC32 docs. > From SaguaroAstro at cox.net Tue Jun 12 01:50:04 2018 From: SaguaroAstro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:50:04 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue Message-ID: <0aa801d401ef$af7af730$0e70e590$@cox.net> All, I recently (today) had to reinstall SATPC32. I was getting the following error on start up: Ungultiges argument zum Codeieren des Datms. If I clicked OK the program would open, but with a blank window. Move on if I try to open the Satellite menu, the following error popped up: E/A Fehler 6. So Anyway, I save my data, uninstalled, and reloaded (Upgrading while I was at it), restored my data. Same thing is happening. Any Ideas? I'd like to get things running by Field day. TIA Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.W7TBC.org From wageners at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 02:15:28 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:15:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor control with SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure what these generic statements are based on: *...."but ICOM and some other radios do not really fully support it and sometimes the tx frequency ends up being written to the RX."... * ..."The ISS version has some quirks particularly if you are only using one radio, as many radios work a bit weird when sending remote frequencies for same band split." Using *one* Icom radio (IC-9100) in *split mode* with SatPC32 ISS works just beautiful. Never had problems with doppler control and direct contact with the ISS (school and astronauts) during many contacts and APRS (when it was operational!). Stefan, VE4NSA On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:01 PM Daniel Cussen wrote: > I used satpc32iss and it worked very similarly to the non ISS version. From > what I remember it uses all the settings from the non iss version. As far > as I remember the main difference is that it allows the two radios or one > radio to be on the same band for transmit and receive, so it may be that > the radio is set up for the same serial port as the rotator. The ISS > version has some quirks particularly if you are only using one radio, as > many radios work a bit weird when sending remote frequencies for same band > split. Basically you are sending two frequencies to the one radio, but ICOM > and some other radios do not really fully support it and sometimes the tx > frequency ends up being written to the RX. Either way if using it for an > ISS school contact test the hell out of the radio and rotator set up all > combined. In the end I disconnected the radio Doppler correction (it is not > really needed on vhf) and had satpc32 for rotator control only. > > I had to disconnect the radio Doppler while talking to an astronaut live in > front of a school hall full of kids. I worked fine during the tests! > On 10 Jun 2018 19:16, "Stephan Greene" wrote: > > > Long-time SatPC32 user but new to SatPC32ISS. Rig control works fine, > but > > I can't get rotor control working in SatPC32ISS. Guessing that > SatPC32ISS > > is not launching the rotor control server SatPC32 uses. Suggestions? > Does > > SatPC32ISS default to the same config file as SatPC32, or does it default > > to Confguration 1? (I'm using Config II with SatPC32). Have not found > > anything (yet) in the SatPC32 docs. > > > > Thanks, 73 Steve KS1G > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kc5qbc at swbell.net Tue Jun 12 02:30:28 2018 From: kc5qbc at swbell.net (Floyd Rodgers) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 02:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Digipeater during field day 2018? References: <683595036.3529379.1528770628307.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <683595036.3529379.1528770628307@mail.yahoo.com> Is ISS or some other bird running a digipeater this field day? From Saguaroastro at cox.net Tue Jun 12 04:23:18 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:23:18 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digipeater during field day 2018? Message-ID: If its battery holds out NO-84, and Falconsat-3 Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 11, 2018, at 19:30, Floyd Rodgers wrote: Is ISS or some other bird running a digipeater this field day? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jun 12 06:06:29 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 02:06:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-12 06:00 UTC Message-ID: <163f29a4f49-c88-59c7@webjas-vae002.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-12 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Tehni?ka ?kola Zaje?ar, Zaje?ar, Serbia, direct via YU1ACR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-06-19 14:20:20 UTC 50 deg (***) ? Exp. 56 on orbit (***) Welcome aboard! (***) Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-12 06:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1231. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1180. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit (***) Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Tue Jun 12 13:02:28 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:02:28 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor control with SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Stefan and others, Stefan, thank you for your mail. For users who consider to run SatPC32ISS: Use SatPC32ISS (instead of the 'normal' SatPC32) only a. if you are using a single full duplex satellite radio (Yaesu FT-736R, FT-847, ICOM IC-821H, IC-910H, IC-9100, Kenwood TS-790, TS-2000) AND b. if you want to track an in-band sateliite with one of these radios. If you are using two separate radios or a single half-duplex radio use the normal SatPC32 even with in-band sats. The satellite radios allow transmitting and receiving at the same time (satellite mode), but only if uplink and downlink are in different bands, of course. Therefore SatPC32ISS runs the satellite radios in SPLIT mode instead (it was easier to realize that in a separate program than to integrate SPLIT mode into the normal program version). Please read also the SatPC32ISS instructions (SatPC32ISS menu '?'). 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 12.06.2018 um 04:15 schrieb Stefan Wagener: > Not sure what these generic statements are based on: > > *...."but ICOM and some other radios do not really fully support it and > sometimes the tx frequency ends up being written to the RX."... * > > ..."The ISS version has some quirks particularly if you are only using one > radio, as many radios work a bit weird when sending remote frequencies for > same band split." > > Using *one* Icom radio (IC-9100) in *split mode* with SatPC32 ISS works > just beautiful. Never had problems with doppler control and direct contact > with the ISS (school and astronauts) during many contacts and APRS (when it > was operational!). > > Stefan, VE4NSA > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:01 PM Daniel Cussen wrote: > >> I used satpc32iss and it worked very similarly to the non ISS version. From >> what I remember it uses all the settings from the non iss version. As far >> as I remember the main difference is that it allows the two radios or one >> radio to be on the same band for transmit and receive, so it may be that >> the radio is set up for the same serial port as the rotator. The ISS >> version has some quirks particularly if you are only using one radio, as >> many radios work a bit weird when sending remote frequencies for same band >> split. Basically you are sending two frequencies to the one radio, but ICOM >> and some other radios do not really fully support it and sometimes the tx >> frequency ends up being written to the RX. Either way if using it for an >> ISS school contact test the hell out of the radio and rotator set up all >> combined. In the end I disconnected the radio Doppler correction (it is not >> really needed on vhf) and had satpc32 for rotator control only. >> >> I had to disconnect the radio Doppler while talking to an astronaut live in >> front of a school hall full of kids. I worked fine during the tests! >> On 10 Jun 2018 19:16, "Stephan Greene" wrote: >> >>> Long-time SatPC32 user but new to SatPC32ISS. Rig control works fine, >> but >>> I can't get rotor control working in SatPC32ISS. Guessing that >> SatPC32ISS >>> is not launching the rotor control server SatPC32 uses. Suggestions? >> Does >>> SatPC32ISS default to the same config file as SatPC32, or does it default >>> to Confguration 1? (I'm using Config II with SatPC32). Have not found >>> anything (yet) in the SatPC32 docs. >>> >>> Thanks, 73 Steve KS1G >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2ysi at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 13:35:56 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:35:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: Use the D74 on receiving, it is very important to hear as well as possible! Not to mention that you can use the built-in recorder, as I do, which is very handy. The Btech uv-5x3 day I use for TX cannot hear very well at all; I tried it on RX once and never tried a second time. 73, Don KB2YSI On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 08:43 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > Thanks so much. The MFJ seems perfect with good reviews. Then I can rig my > baofeng for receive to the Elk and hand hold my D74 for transmitting or > vice versa so that I can use the D74 to record the received signal. I Was > going to order one from Amazon but it is $7 cheaper at HRO. Hoping to get > one by Saturday and be more successful. It is getting very sad not hearing > anyone come back to me, especially when the bird isn?t busy. I heard two DX > stations last night probably from Mexico or South America on AO-92. No > response from anyone of course. > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > On Jun 8, 2018, at 06:34, Rolf Krogstad wrote: > > MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer). The model number is MFJ-916B. > There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. > > There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), > comparing different models. > > 73 > Rolf NR0T > EN34it > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > >> What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and >> then the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use. I found it >> easier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup. >> >> 73, Don KB2YSI >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> >> > Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a >> > way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two >> > handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to >> filter >> > the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try >> to >> > lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to >> > receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the >> > times i?m by myself. >> > >> > ? >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> > >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57, Don KB2YSI wrote: >> > >> > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no >> > table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only >> > tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. >> > >> > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for >> > the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood >> in >> > the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major >> improvement >> > in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at >> > hamqth.com/KB2YSI >> > >> > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. >> > AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others >> nothing >> > I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 >> are >> > crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a >> duplexer >> > as a filter) setup. >> > >> > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to >> talk >> > offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, >> but >> > it has been incredibly fun time! >> > >> > >> > >> > 73, Don KB2YSI >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple > > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hugo, >> >> >> >> Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting >> with >> >> only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf >> >> power) >> >> >> >> I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local >> OM?s >> >> which trigger Francois venture on the birds. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Jean Marc >> >> >> >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used >> >> the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios >> and >> >> the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for >> listening >> >> for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera >> >> tripod to free my hand >> >> > >> >> > ? >> >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> > >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple < >> jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hugo, >> >> >> >> >> >> Just to share experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and >> >> AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew >> >> Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He >> made >> >> QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. >> >> >> >> >> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger >> the >> >> repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a >> few >> >> more W for clear QSO. >> >> >> >> >> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need >> between >> >> 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hope this help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by >> >> handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged >> receive >> >> antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts >> >> sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ? >> >> >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on >> >> SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) >> birds in >> >> error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do >> some >> >> more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've >> been >> >> using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the >> >> mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 73, >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > >> >> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by >> >> starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has >> >> instructions to do it how I am doing it: >> >> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for >> >> uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is >> setup >> >> for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it >> was >> >> on the L band. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> ? >> >> >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight >> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally >> start >> >> high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I >> would >> >> start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the >> >> satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher >> >> frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, >> and >> >> lower after the satellite passes. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> 73, >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < >> >> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the >> >> FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you >> can't >> >> hear while transmitting. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo >> >> Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> >> >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able >> to >> >> hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have >> >> programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band >> periodic >> >> log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only >> been >> >> successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I >> >> triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they >> are >> >> set as follows: >> >> >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >> >> >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> >> >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> >> >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> >> >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> >> >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I >> >> adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 >> 435.160, >> >> 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or >> am I >> >> missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >> >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> >> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> membership. >> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the >> >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur >> satellite >> >> program! >> >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >> >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From hugois at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 12:43:56 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 05:43:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks so much. The MFJ seems perfect with good reviews. Then I can rig my baofeng for receive to the Elk and hand hold my D74 for transmitting or vice versa so that I can use the D74 to record the received signal. I Was going to order one from Amazon but it is $7 cheaper at HRO. Hoping to get one by Saturday and be more successful. It is getting very sad not hearing anyone come back to me, especially when the bird isn?t busy. I heard two DX stations last night probably from Mexico or South America on AO-92. No response from anyone of course. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 8, 2018, at 06:34, Rolf Krogstad wrote: > > MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer). The model number is MFJ-916B. > There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. > > There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), comparing different models. > > 73 > Rolf NR0T > EN34it > >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: >> What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and >> then the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use. I found it >> easier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup. >> >> 73, Don KB2YSI >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> >> > Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a >> > way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two >> > handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to filter >> > the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try to >> > lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to >> > receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the >> > times i?m by myself. >> > >> > ? >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> > >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57, Don KB2YSI wrote: >> > >> > My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no >> > table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only >> > tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack. >> > >> > Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for >> > the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in >> > the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement >> > in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at >> > hamqth.com/KB2YSI >> > >> > SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me. >> > AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing >> > I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are >> > crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer >> > as a filter) setup. >> > >> > I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk >> > offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but >> > it has been incredibly fun time! >> > >> > >> > >> > 73, Don KB2YSI >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hugo, >> >> >> >> Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with >> >> only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf >> >> power) >> >> >> >> I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM?s >> >> which trigger Francois venture on the birds. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Jean Marc >> >> >> >> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the feedback. I?ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used >> >> the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and >> >> the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening >> >> for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera >> >> tripod to free my hand >> >> > >> >> > ? >> >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> > >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hugo, >> >> >> >> >> >> Just to share experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and >> >> AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew >> >> Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made >> >> QSO?s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W. >> >> >> >> >> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the >> >> repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few >> >> more W for clear QSO. >> >> >> >> >> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between >> >> 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hope this help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by >> >> handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive >> >> antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts >> >> sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ? >> >> >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on >> >> SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in >> >> error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some >> >> more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been >> >> using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the >> >> mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon.... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 73, >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by >> >> starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has >> >> instructions to do it how I am doing it: >> >> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/ >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for >> >> uplink which i?m interpreting that UHF won?t work when the bird is setup >> >> for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was >> >> on the L band. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> ? >> >> >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight wrote: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start >> >> high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would >> >> start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the >> >> satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher >> >> frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and >> >> lower after the satellite passes. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> 73, >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner < >> >> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the >> >> FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't >> >> hear while transmitting. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex? >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hugo >> >> Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM >> >> >>>>>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to >> >> hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have >> >> programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic >> >> log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been >> >> successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I >> >> triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are >> >> set as follows: >> >> >>>>>>> Sat. Xmit Tone >> >> >>>>>>> SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz >> >> >>>>>>> AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz >> >> >>>>>>> AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ >> >> >>>>>>> AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz >> >> >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I >> >> adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, >> >> 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I >> >> missing something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >> >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> >> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >> >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >> Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> >> AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From KB2HSH at amsat.org Tue Jun 12 16:47:20 2018 From: KB2HSH at amsat.org (John Marranca, Jr) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 12:47:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 Message-ID: I agree about the Baofengs being somewhat deaf. In the past, I was able a few times to work SO-50 with the UV3R that I used to carry...and recently the UV5RA and dual-band whip has been used during the day while I'm out working. I thought that AO-91/92 sounded pretty good. That is, until I hooked up my 40 year old IC-2AT to my turnstile. AMAZING how well the ancient Icom can hear. Who knew?! KB2HSH From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 18:55:55 2018 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:55:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI - using a preamp in front of the Baofeng will make an amazing improvement. I have used VOX T/R preamps that cost 10x the price of the Baofeng - but it is a game changer. Is anyone using the Baofeng for TX only and an SDR (Funcube Dongle) for RX? This seems like a good setup. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:27 PM John Marranca, Jr wrote: > > I agree about the Baofengs being somewhat deaf. In the past, I was able a > few times to work SO-50 with the UV3R that I used to carry...and recently > the UV5RA and dual-band whip has been used during the day while I'm out > working. I thought that AO-91/92 sounded pretty good. That is, until I > hooked up my 40 year old IC-2AT to my turnstile. AMAZING how well the > ancient Icom can hear. Who knew?! > > KB2HSH > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 19:00:14 2018 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:00:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ Message-ID: Satellite Folks, It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine enough for SSB doppler adjustments? I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can be controlled with good granularity. 73 - Paul - W2HRO From KB2HSH at amsat.org Tue Jun 12 19:26:05 2018 From: KB2HSH at amsat.org (John Marranca, Jr) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:26:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks AO-92 Message-ID: I never would have considered a preamp with the Baofeng. But it's an interesting concept. Comparing my 2AT to the UV5RA is like comparing night to day. Even with a simple dipole mocked up with a BNC to Banana Post adaptor, most passes are solid with little fading or drop outs. Coupled with my HTX404 and a pair of Lindys should make for a really good station. From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jun 12 19:51:43 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:51:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try HDSDR or SDR#. I believe that both can be connected to SatPC32 On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Paul Andrews wrote: > Satellite Folks, > > It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle > Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine > enough for SSB doppler adjustments? > > I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary > receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can > be controlled with good granularity. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From marklhammond at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 20:15:24 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:15:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Using a FCDP+ with SDR# software, a plugin for SatPC32, and SatPC32 works wonderfully. Mark N8MH On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Paul Andrews wrote: > Satellite Folks, > > It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle > Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine > enough for SSB doppler adjustments? > > I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary > receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can > be controlled with good granularity. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 20:20:05 2018 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:20:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you - I will give it a try tonight. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:15 PM Mark L. Hammond wrote: > > Using a FCDP+ with SDR# software, a plugin for SatPC32, and SatPC32 works wonderfully. > > Mark N8MH > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Paul Andrews wrote: >> >> Satellite Folks, >> >> It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle >> Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine >> enough for SSB doppler adjustments? >> >> I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary >> receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can >> be controlled with good granularity. >> >> 73 - Paul - W2HRO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 20:35:46 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:35:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul! I can't speak to the Funcube Dongle Pro+ specifically, but since most of the common SDR apps work with a variety of different SDRs, I'll comment anyway. The "only" receiver that I ever use for linear sats is an SDR (SDRPlay RSP1, in my case). The software that I use is HDSDR. Besides the normal frequency control with mouse clicks, etc., I have a spare USB mouse that I have stripped down so that there is no bottom LED nor left/right clickers. All that remains is the center scroll wheel. I have this "thing" sitting sideways in front of my laptop's keyboard and HDSDR is configured to use that scroll wheel to adjust the tuned frequency. How granular you want that movement to be is configurable... I have mine set for 50hz per tic from the scroll wheel, but of course that's something to adjust by trial & error for personal preference. So, to answer your question - that makes it extremely easy to adjust for doppler as signals on the downlink move around on you. I've positioned the (sideways) wheel so that left tunes to the left and right tunes to the right. You hardly have to think about it... just follow the downlink as needed. 73! -Scott, K4KDR ================================= On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Paul Andrews wrote: > Satellite Folks, > > It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle > Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine > enough for SSB doppler adjustments? > > I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary > receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can > be controlled with good granularity. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 21:21:24 2018 From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:21:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IMO, SDR Console v3 is far better than any other SDR software I have tried for satellites. After installing, select View, then Satellites. A new window opens. You can configure all the satellites you use and it will set the frequency, control doppler, show you elevation/azimuth and display the footprint on a map. An additional sub-window will show upcoming passes for the satellites you have configured. V3 was still in Beta last week, but full release is promised for this month. Rolf NR0T EN34 On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 3:08 PM Paul Andrews wrote: > Satellite Folks, > > It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle > Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine > enough for SSB doppler adjustments? > > I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary > receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can > be controlled with good granularity. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mstyne at k2mts.org Tue Jun 12 21:37:51 2018 From: mstyne at k2mts.org (Michael Styne) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:37:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: gqrx controlled by gpredict fit the bill nicely. 73, Mike Michael Styne K2MTS mstyne at k2mts.org > On Jun 12, 2018, at 15:00, Paul Andrews wrote: > > It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle > Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? From aj9n at aol.com Wed Jun 13 01:20:21 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:20:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-13 01:00 UTC Message-ID: <163f6bab66c-c8d-b667@webjas-vab250.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-13 01:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Tehni?ka ?kola Zaje?ar, Zaje?ar, Serbia, direct via YU1ACR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-06-19 14:20:20 UTC 50 deg ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-13 01:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1231. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1180. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From radiomb at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 13 01:43:35 2018 From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 01:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode References: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737@mail.yahoo.com> Might have missed it if this has be?posited before. Why has AO-85 been in safe mode the last few days?TNX 73 Mike | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 01:46:40 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:46:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode In-Reply-To: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When the batteries get low it goes into safe mode to protect them. 73, Don KB2YSI On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 21:44 radiomb wrote: > Might have missed it if this has be posited before. Why has AO-85 been in > safe mode the last few days?TNX 73 Mike > > | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From radiomb at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 13 01:49:50 2018 From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 01:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode In-Reply-To: References: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201687132.4441200.1528854590764@mail.yahoo.com> TNX Don? From: Don KB2YSI To: radiomb Cc: Amsat BB Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode When the batteries get low it goes into safe mode to protect them.? 73, Don KB2YSI On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 21:44 radiomb wrote: ?Might have missed it if this has be?posited before. Why has AO-85 been in safe mode the last few days?TNX 73 Mike |? | Virus-free. www.avast.com? | _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | From inservice2him at hotmail.com Wed Jun 13 02:15:02 2018 From: inservice2him at hotmail.com (Kirk P) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 02:15:02 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.sdr-satellites.com/ SDR Satellites www.sdr-satellites.com This website describes the first preview of the satellite tracking interface in version 3 of the SDR-Radio.com SDR software. The satellite tracking provides a simple yet powerful support for all satellites. http://www.sdr-radio.com/Software/Version3 sdr-radio.com > Software > Version 3 www.sdr-radio.com Version 3 is being developed with a target release date of June 1st, 2018. Compared with the provious versions, the improvements are: Direct-X (hardware accelerated) graphics - smoother, finer, faster with less CPU load, Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of Paul Andrews Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:00 PM To: amsat-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ Satellite Folks, It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver? A la frequency control fine enough for SSB doppler adjustments? I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary receiver. The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can be controlled with good granularity. 73 - Paul - W2HRO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 11:01:15 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:01:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, here are some specifics for SDR# and FCDP/FCDP+, even RTL-SDRs are supported. Here is link to SDR# https://airspy.com/download/ I assume you're running Windows? Top file option. It's quite easy to get going, once you get a feel for it. After you have SDR# running with your FCDP+, then go get the SatPC32 plugin here: http://www.satsignal.eu/software/DDETracker.html Specifically, get this file first: http://www.satsignal.eu/software/DDETrackerV8Binaries.zip Use the website and the files in the .zip to get it configured. The key is to edit a config file and to add a specific line of text, that way the new DDE Sat plugin will show up in SDR# Once you have it configured, then update the DLL with this one, to be current: http://www.satsignal.eu/software/DDETracker.dll-20-Aug-2017.zip If successful ;) a new plugin will appear on the left column in SDR#. You click it, tell it you're using SatPC32 (needs to be running!), and click to start it...pretty intuitive. Then SDR# will track the downlink frequency and mode of the receiver freq. in SatPC32. Very slick :) Mark N8MH At 04:15 PM 6/12/2018 -0400, Mark L. Hammond wrote: >Using a FCDP+ with SDR# software, a plugin for SatPC32, and SatPC32 works wonderfully.? > >Mark N8MH > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> wrote: >Satellite Folks, > >It there a software package that can fully control a Funcube Dongle >Pro+ and emulate a traditional receiver?? ? A la frequency control fine >enough for SSB doppler adjustments? > >I have used the FDP+ as a pan-adapter on satellite but not the primary >receiver.? ? The FDP+ is a better receiver than the Baofeng - if it can >be controlled with good granularity. > >73 - Paul - W2HRO >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > >-- >Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From mstyne at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 12:16:54 2018 From: mstyne at gmail.com (Michael Styne) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:16:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FN33 rove, tomorrow 6/14 Message-ID: <06EB9D61-1A06-4390-8C27-261677606C65@gmail.com> Hello all, FM-only rove 6/14 1300z to 1700z in the oddly desirable FN33. I will stand by for more exotic grids. I may not be in position for the 1323z AO-92 pass ? but if I am, it?ll be from the Malta Drive-in. DIPLOTA? If you miss me this time, I will probably be back later this summer, maybe for an FN23/33 double feature. 73, Mike K2MTS Michael Styne mstyne at gmail.com From burns at fisher.cc Wed Jun 13 14:44:01 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:44:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode In-Reply-To: <201687132.4441200.1528854590764@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737@mail.yahoo.com> <201687132.4441200.1528854590764@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just a note that this usually happens toward the end of the time when it is out of the sun (in eclipse). It should resume regular transponder mode when it re-enters the sun. There seems to be an odd bug which I have not yet figured out such that under some circumstances it stays in safe model and has to be commanded back on. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 9:49 PM, radiomb wrote: > TNX Don > > > > From: Don KB2YSI > To: radiomb > Cc: Amsat BB > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode > > When the batteries get low it goes into safe mode to protect them. > > 73, Don KB2YSI > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 21:44 radiomb wrote: > > Might have missed it if this has be posited before. Why has AO-85 been in > safe mode the last few days?TNX 73 Mike > > | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From dgbartholomew at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 17:08:20 2018 From: dgbartholomew at gmail.com (David Bartholomew) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:08:20 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] CM94 on Saturday June 16th. Message-ID: AD7DB will be in CM94 on Saturday June 16 for these passes: AO-92 1726z AO-92 1900z AO-91 1926z SO-50 2100z SO-50 2241z I will be at the Santa Maria hamfest that day. Everything will be sent up to LOTW, but most likely that'll happen Monday. I can do cards too, please send me yours. 73... Dave AD7DB Twitter @ad7db From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 17:35:43 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Jean_Marc_Mompl=C3=A9?=) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:35:43 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?b?RXPigJloYWlsIDI=?= In-Reply-To: <44edf992-53af-a662-d8f0-4f4fb8d80c47@kourou.de> References: <44edf992-53af-a662-d8f0-4f4fb8d80c47@kourou.de> Message-ID: Keith, Thanks for the info, being on the manifest is a good news already but for sure some confirmation required, I believe this was the purpose of your e-mail. I am ready this side for it and awaiting the bird to be active. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Jun 2018, at 00:31, Peter Guelzow wrote: > > Hi Keith, > > No. > > We should definitely wait for official information released directly by > SpaceX and Es'hailSat regarding the launch date for Es'hail-2. > > Any other sources should not be considered... > > best 73s > Peter, DB2OS > AMSAT-DL > > > > > > > > > >> Am 11.06.2018 um 20:45 schrieb Keith D. Le Boutillier: >> >> Hi Amsat >> >> Whilst looking for some work related information I noticed that the Es?hail 2 satellite was now added to the SpaceX lunch manifest for an August 2018 launch. >> >> The last news that I had heard was the satellite was ready for shipment to the launch site. Is anybody able to confirm if this launch date is correct? >> >> Thanks >> >> Keith GU6EFB >> >> >> Upcoming Falcon launches >> NET Date [Launch window UTC] >> >> Vehicle >> >> Launch site >> >> Orbit >> >> Payload mass (kg) >> >> Payload(s) >> >> Customer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2018 Jun 29 [09:41] >> >> Falcon 9 ? + Dragon ? >> >> SLC-40 >> >> LEO >> >> 2410 / 900 >> >> SpX CRS-15 & ECOSTRESS, LEE >> >> NASA >> >> >> >> 2018 Jul >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> SLC-40 >> >> GTO >> >> ? >> >> Telstar 19V >> >> Telesat (Canada) >> >> >> >> 2018 Jul >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> SLC-40 >> >> GTO >> >> ? >> >> Telstar 18V (APStar 5C) >> >> Telesat (Canada) >> >> >> >> 2018 Jul >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> LC-4E >> >> PO >> >> 860 (x10) >> >> Iridium 7 (10 Satellites) >> >> Iridium Communications >> >> >> >> 2018 Aug >> >> Falcon 9 ? >> >> SLC-40 >> >> GTO >> >> ~5000 >> >> Telkom-4 >> >> Telkom (Indonesia) >> >> >> >> 2018 Aug >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> SLC-40 >> >> GTO >> >> ~3000 >> >> Es?hail 2 >> >> Es?hailSat (Qatar) >> >> >> >> 2018 Sep 30 >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> LC-4E >> >> SSO >> >>> 1000 >> SSO-A >> >> Spaceflight Industries, Inc >> >> >> >> 2018 Sep >> >> Falcon 9 + Crew Dragon >> >> LC-39A >> >> LEO >> >> ? >> >> CCtCap Demo Mission 1 (DM-1) (uncrewed) >> >> NASA >> >> >> >> 2018 Oct >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> SLC-40 >> >> MEO >> >> 3680 >> >> GPS IIIA-1 >> >> USAF >> >> >> >> 2018 Oct >> >> Falcon 9 >> >> LC-4E >> >> PO >> >> 860 (x10) >> >> Iridium 8 (10 Satellites) >> >> Iridium Communications >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From radiomb at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 13 18:06:35 2018 From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode In-Reply-To: References: <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1243194412.4493321.1528854215737@mail.yahoo.com> <201687132.4441200.1528854590764@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <995748478.4894060.1528913195945@mail.yahoo.com> TNX for the additional information. I have heard it in safe mode but not this many days in a row. But I have only been on the birds since the beginning of the year. I was worried it was a terminal problem. 73 Mike? K4MIA From: Burns Fisher To: radiomb Cc: Don KB2YSI ; Amsat BB Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode Just a note that this usually happens toward the end of the time when it is out of the sun (in eclipse). ? It should resume regular transponder mode when it re-enters the sun.? There seems to be an odd bug which I have not yet figured out such that under some circumstances it stays in safe model and has to be commanded back on. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 9:49 PM, radiomb wrote: TNX Don? ? ? ? From: Don KB2YSI ?To: radiomb Cc: Amsat BB ?Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:46 PM ?Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Safe Mode ? ? When the batteries get low it goes into safe mode to protect them.? 73, Don KB2YSI On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 21:44 radiomb wrote: ?Might have missed it if this has be?posited before. Why has AO-85 been in safe mode the last few days?TNX 73 Mike |? | Virus-free. www.avast.com? | ______________________________ _________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ listinfo/amsat-bb |? | Virus-free. www.avast.com? | ______________________________ _________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ listinfo/amsat-bb | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | From jim at milnet.uk.net Thu Jun 14 09:35:23 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:35:23 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: <816C99C3DD9A44D4B87E63906027ABBC@jimPC2> Hi Folks, Due to operator availability, I have switched FUNCube into full time transponder mode this morning (Thr UTC). We plan to switch is back to educational mode on Sun evening (UTC) as usual. 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team. From david.xe3dx at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 14:29:22 2018 From: david.xe3dx at gmail.com (David Maciel (XE3DX)) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:29:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 Message-ID: hi guys, can someone send the connection for the TS-2000 CAT cable? Dave XE3DX -- Saludos David Maciel XE3DX Enviado desde mi IPHONE From k8tl at earthlink.net Thu Jun 14 15:54:46 2018 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:54:46 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] FT 847 help. Message-ID: <1364661297.4262.1528991686396@wamui-hyena.atl.sa.earthlink.net> What is the command line in the SubTone SQF file for the 67hz tone for the FT-847? IC9100 bit the dust!! Tom K8TL k8tl at earthlink.net From tucker at mcguireland.com Thu Jun 14 17:38:55 2018 From: tucker at mcguireland.com (Tucker McGuire) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:38:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EAntenna DuoSat satellite antenna for sale Message-ID: Hi All, Trying to sell my EAntenna DuoSat satellite antenna. $100 shipped conus. Only used a few times and costs $170 new from DxEngineering. Cheers, Tucker W4FS From paul at ukdx.org.uk Thu Jun 14 17:18:13 2018 From: paul at ukdx.org.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:18:13 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. Message-ID: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> Hi all I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite a fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor I actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? Paul G7PUV Sussex Coast. JO00 From gallsup at whoi.edu Thu Jun 14 16:43:59 2018 From: gallsup at whoi.edu (geoffrey allsup) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:43:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT 847 help. In-Reply-To: <1364661297.4262.1528991686396@wamui-hyena.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1364661297.4262.1528991686396@wamui-hyena.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <81C42341-AD0F-4A83-9027-554A19E7A498@whoi.edu> Here?s what is in my subtone.sqf for my FT847 AO-51,67.0,$3F,1 SO-50,67.0,$3F,1 SO-50,74.4,$3E,3 SO-67,233.6,$01,36 HO-68,67.0,$3F,1 AO-85,67.0,$3F,1 AO-91,67.0,$3F,1 AO-92,67.0,$3F,1 geoff - W1OH *********************************************************************** Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA *********************************************************************** > On Jun 14, 2018, at 11:54, Tom Lubbers K8TL wrote: > > What is the command line in the SubTone SQF file for the 67hz tone for the FT-847? > > IC9100 bit the dust!! > > Tom K8TL k8tl at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From occamrazr at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 19:40:22 2018 From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:40:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors Message-ID: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof coax connectors? How often does it have to be done? Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent Thanks Butch K8KO From kb2ysi at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 19:47:03 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:47:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors In-Reply-To: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> References: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Last fall I did the electric tape+coax seal method and the connections were perfectly fine when I opened them this spring. Not the longest 'soak' time, but having the tape UNDER the coax seal sure made it come off easy! 73, Don KB2YSI On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 15:41 Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof coax > connectors? > > How often does it have to be done? > > Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent > > Thanks > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zmetzing at pobox.com Thu Jun 14 19:50:49 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:50:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors In-Reply-To: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> References: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 06/14/18 14:40, Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof coax connectors? > > How often does it have to be done? > > Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent I like to orient my connectors facing down, preferably under an overhang. I then wrap the connector and coax in 1/2 overlap fashion with 3M Rubber Splicing tape (#2155). You must stretch it to about 2/3rds of its original width to "activate" it before wrapping. I start the wrap on the coax, about 2" from the start of the connector, and wrap upward until it completely covers the connector and seals the interface between the female and male parts of the junction. When I disassembled (Exact-o knife) the outdoor coax connectors after 8 years of wind, rain, and sun exposure, the connectors looked brand new. No water intrusion anywhere that I could tell. I also use silver-plated connectors (PTFE insulator material) wherever possible. --- Zach N0ZGO From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 20:02:11 2018 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:02:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The CAT connector on the TS-2000 is standard RS-232. The RS-232 (CAT) pinout can be easily found on the Internet with a Google search. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM David Maciel (XE3DX) wrote: > > hi guys, can someone send the connection for the TS-2000 CAT cable? > > Dave > XE3DX > -- > Saludos > > David Maciel > XE3DX > > Enviado desde mi IPHONE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 20:03:28 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:03:28 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors In-Reply-To: References: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use the way I was trained when I worked for Motorola at a MSS. Silicon grease on the inside, 3M 33+ tape in 2 layers on the outside. You can overwrap that with 3M 35 in the color of your choice for color coding. Or you can use adhesive shrink tubing with the 33+ over it. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 14, 2018, 12:54, at 12:54, Zach Metzinger wrote: >On 06/14/18 14:40, Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof coax >connectors? >> >> How often does it have to be done? >> >> Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent > >I like to orient my connectors facing down, preferably under an >overhang. > >I then wrap the connector and coax in 1/2 overlap fashion with 3M >Rubber >Splicing tape (#2155). You must stretch it to about 2/3rds of its >original width to "activate" it before wrapping. I start the wrap on >the >coax, about 2" from the start of the connector, and wrap upward until >it >completely covers the connector and seals the interface between the >female and male parts of the junction. > >When I disassembled (Exact-o knife) the outdoor coax connectors after 8 >years of wind, rain, and sun exposure, the connectors looked brand new. >No water intrusion anywhere that I could tell. I also use silver-plated >connectors (PTFE insulator material) wherever possible. > >--- Zach >N0ZGO >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 20:10:40 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:10:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pin 2 = TXD/RXD Pin 3 = RXD/TXD Pin 5 = GND If it doesn't work, switch 2 & 3. Generally.? lol ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 14, 2018, 13:03, at 13:03, Paul Andrews wrote: >The CAT connector on the TS-2000 is standard RS-232. > >The RS-232 (CAT) pinout can be easily found on the Internet with a >Google search. >On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM David Maciel (XE3DX) > wrote: >> >> hi guys, can someone send the connection for the TS-2000 CAT cable? >> >> Dave >> XE3DX >> -- >> Saludos >> >> David Maciel >> XE3DX >> >> Enviado desde mi IPHONE >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 20:28:20 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:28:20 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a2a0ae4-9092-4126-8d2d-1ad160d08439@yahoo.com> I'm sorry, I should clarify my post. That for a DB9, the commonly used 9 pin connector. The DB25, the old 25 pin connector still in use, uses Pin 7 for ground. The TX & RX remaining the same ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 14, 2018, 13:12, at 13:12, W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Pin 2 = TXD/RXD >Pin 3 = RXD/TXD >Pin 5 = GND > >If it doesn't work, switch 2 & 3. Generally.? lol > >?___ >Sent from my two way wrist watch >73 de W3AB/GEO? > >On Jun 14, 2018, 13:03, at 13:03, Paul Andrews >wrote: >>The CAT connector on the TS-2000 is standard RS-232. >> >>The RS-232 (CAT) pinout can be easily found on the Internet with a >>Google search. >>On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM David Maciel (XE3DX) >> wrote: >>> >>> hi guys, can someone send the connection for the TS-2000 CAT cable? >>> >>> Dave >>> XE3DX >>> -- >>> Saludos >>> >>> David Maciel >>> XE3DX >>> >>> Enviado desde mi IPHONE >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >views >>of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>> Subscription settings: >http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>of AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nm3a at mail.com Thu Jun 14 21:29:48 2018 From: nm3a at mail.com (Mail) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:29:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors In-Reply-To: References: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7EA632A3-1D1C-4684-86CB-9CE51FD078BD@mail.com> I have generally used Coax-Seal (name brand). It looks like tar and comes in tape form. Molds like clay. Does not harden with cold or rain, does not get soft with heat or sun, seals completely and lasts a long time. I had it on my HF and satellite cables and antennas. After 15 years the connectors looked like new when I took it all down. Testing cables later (9913 type cable) showed cables had like new specs, showing there was no water ingress. I am sure there?s more than one way to be successful, but I know that this works. Dan Sent from here. NM3A > On Jun 14, 2018, at 15:47, Don KB2YSI wrote: > > Last fall I did the electric tape+coax seal method and the connections were > perfectly fine when I opened them this spring. Not the longest 'soak' time, > but having the tape UNDER the coax seal sure made it come off easy! > > 73, Don KB2YSI > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 15:41 Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> >> In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof coax >> connectors? >> >> How often does it have to be done? >> >> Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent >> >> Thanks >> >> Butch K8KO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 21:48:58 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:48:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors In-Reply-To: <7EA632A3-1D1C-4684-86CB-9CE51FD078BD@mail.com> References: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> <7EA632A3-1D1C-4684-86CB-9CE51FD078BD@mail.com> Message-ID: Agreed, Coax Seal works well. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 14, 2018, 14:32, at 14:32, Mail wrote: >I have generally used Coax-Seal (name brand). It looks like tar and >comes in tape form. Molds like clay. Does not harden with cold or rain, >does not get soft with heat or sun, seals completely and lasts a long >time. > >I had it on my HF and satellite cables and antennas. After 15 years the >connectors looked like new when I took it all down. Testing cables >later (9913 type cable) showed cables had like new specs, showing there >was no water ingress. I am sure there?s more than one way to be >successful, but I know that this works. > >Dan > >Sent from here. NM3A > >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 15:47, Don KB2YSI wrote: >> >> Last fall I did the electric tape+coax seal method and the >connections were >> perfectly fine when I opened them this spring. Not the longest 'soak' >time, >> but having the tape UNDER the coax seal sure made it come off easy! >> >> 73, Don KB2YSI >> >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 15:41 Butch via AMSAT-BB >wrote: >>> >>> In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof >coax >>> connectors? >>> >>> How often does it have to be done? >>> >>> Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Butch K8KO >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >>> Subscription settings: >http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Fri Jun 15 00:01:13 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT)) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:01:13 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] General Question on water proofing coax connectors In-Reply-To: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> References: <11A5E036-BD75-4DD6-BC9F-BC907C6BE3CE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5fb1cb23-7942-fb3f-6ee3-d70a626fef88@msa.hinet.net> I use liquid electrical tape, or Plasti-Dip from a can (not the spray version). Cheap and after pulling it off you can clean any residue with naphtha. Only disadvantage is that it needs to dry, which takes a bit of time. Hans BX2ABT On 06/15/2018 03:40 AM, Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > In your experience, what is the most effective way to waterproof coax connectors? > > How often does it have to be done? > > Is it reasonably easy to remove? i.e. not permanent > > Thanks > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From Saguaroastro at cox.net Fri Jun 15 02:18:34 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:18:34 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue Message-ID: Anyone??? Still can't get Satpc32 to run properly Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 11, 2018, at 18:50, Rick Tejera wrote: All, I recently (today) had to reinstall SATPC32. I was getting the following error on start up: Ungultiges argument zum Codeieren des Datms. If I clicked OK the program would open, but with a blank window. Move on if I try to open the Satellite menu, the following error popped up: E/A Fehler 6. So Anyway, I save my data, uninstalled, and reloaded (Upgrading while I was at it), restored my data. Same thing is happening. Any Ideas? I'd like to get things running by Field day. TIA Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.W7TBC.org _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 02:30:25 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:30:25 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any plans for ISS participation during Field Day? Message-ID: Hi folks, Anyone heard of any plans for the crew of the ISS to participate in Field Day? Or, are those glorious days over? Greg KO6TH From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Fri Jun 15 05:35:20 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:35:20 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <708653f0-230c-e659-59e5-30fb329c0131@t-online.de> Dave, with the TS-2000 it is necessary to check the option 'RTS +12V'. Cable: Standard RS-232 straight forward (no null modem!) with DB-9 connectors (both female). 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 14.06.2018 um 16:29 schrieb David Maciel (XE3DX): > hi guys, can someone send the connection for the TS-2000 CAT cable? > > Dave > XE3DX From wmc_jx at 163.com Fri Jun 15 07:42:12 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 15:42:12 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan 16 Jun Message-ID: <4369229a.9249.1640265054d.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The following tests for DSLWP-B UHF are planned: 16 Jun 09:00 to 16 Jun 11:00 16 Jun 22:00 to 17 Jun 00:00 Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_dev or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt Updated version (20180530) of Live CD: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing VY TN & 73! Wei BG2BHC -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From john at amber.org.uk Fri Jun 15 08:13:08 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 09:13:08 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. In-Reply-To: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> References: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> Message-ID: <014801d40480$b2806170$17812450$@amber.org.uk> Paul, It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 (the KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit switch mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or secondly pull the start capacitor from the controller and use the rotor limit switches and capacitor. As far as I can tell from the in-depth dismantling I've done of a couple of these, either should work, but having both would effectively render the limit switches redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc further down the line. What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the wiring config on the back of the screw block - this will have an effect on what you do later. There was some weird wiring in one of the rotor units I bought, and it ended up with pins being shorted together inside the connector block and made everything weird. I made the decision with that one to return it to 'A' spec as I couldn't be sure what else had been done. If yours is similar that's the approach I would take. If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and sane, and matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit switches installed, as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical stop, and if you hit that and don't realise, but keep sending current up the cable, you'll inevitably burn out your motor windings after a while. Not such a fun job to fix (dismantling the motor housing is at least an hour's work on its own), although easy enough to do with patience. Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! 73, and a firm left handshake, John (2E0XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. Hi all I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite a fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor I actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? Paul G7PUV Sussex Coast. JO00 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Fri Jun 15 08:45:54 2018 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:45:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e601d40485$461093c0$d231bb40$@bellsouth.net> My recolecation it needs a cross over cable with hardware hand shake nick Cell????? 337 258 2527 ? Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School Disagree I Learn -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Andrews Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 3:02 PM To: david.xe3dx at gmail.com Cc: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CAT TS-2000 The CAT connector on the TS-2000 is standard RS-232. The RS-232 (CAT) pinout can be easily found on the Internet with a Google search. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM David Maciel (XE3DX) wrote: > > hi guys, can someone send the connection for the TS-2000 CAT cable? > > Dave > XE3DX > -- > Saludos > > David Maciel > XE3DX > > Enviado desde mi IPHONE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 12:04:39 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:04:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000a01d404a1$0a12d880$1e388980$@gmail.com> Try running the new version without reinstalling your old data. If that works, you can incrementally restore the old data manually and find the problem. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < < < < < <_______________________________________________ References: Message-ID: <1847259305.79085.1529078971072@connect.xfinity.com> Hi folks-Everyone on the ISS has at least a tech license. It would interesting if they would try for WAS, VUCC, DXCC or whatever just for fun. 73 Bob W7LRD > On June 14, 2018 at 7:30 PM Greg D wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > Anyone heard of any plans for the crew of the ISS to participate in > Field Day? Or, are those glorious days over? > > Greg KO6TH > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rsoifer1 at aol.com Fri Jun 15 16:27:58 2018 From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (2) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 12:27:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FIELD DAY: WE7GV ON FO-29 CW Message-ID: <16404466059-c8a-1b4c1@webjas-vad078.srv.aolmail.net> Again this year, the Green Valley (AZ) ARC, WE7GV, will be on FO-29 and poaaibly other linear transponder sats. CW only. No phone or digi. Look for us. An easy 100 ARRL points. 73 Ray W2RS From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 18:26:19 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:26:19 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any plans for ISS participation during Field Day? In-Reply-To: <1847259305.79085.1529078971072@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1847259305.79085.1529078971072@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <99a8642a-2e24-04ac-a10c-d949ccfc4ff9@gmail.com> My recollection is that just participating in Field Day from the ISS has been enjoyable for those who did so. They don't need to go for an award to have fun, but also likely don't have the time. I think it was astronaut Susan Helms who stirred up quite a discussion by asking what their designation would be. Home power, yes I suppose, but also solar powered, battery, etc. My log (2001) says "1A Battery on ISS", and it was clear that she had a blast. Scanning back in my logs, it looks like the last time I made a contact with the ISS on FD was in 2014, so not all that long ago. They were running "2A DX". Greg KO6TH Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Hi folks-Everyone on the ISS has at least a tech license. It would interesting if they would try for WAS, VUCC, DXCC or whatever just for fun. > 73 Bob W7LRD > >> On June 14, 2018 at 7:30 PM Greg D wrote: >> >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Anyone heard of any plans for the crew of the ISS to participate in >> Field Day? Or, are those glorious days over? >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From paul at ukdx.org.uk Sat Jun 16 08:40:47 2018 From: paul at ukdx.org.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 09:40:47 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. In-Reply-To: <014801d40480$b2806170$17812450$@amber.org.uk> References: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> <014801d40480$b2806170$17812450$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi John, Thanks for your lengthy reply, I really appreciate it. Just to clarify one thing you think this is a late model Kenpro due to it having the switches and cap inside the casing attached above the positioning pot? I tested the motor last night using the KR400 controller, wiring seems standard on pins 4,5 and 6 so I gave it a couple of briefs bursts to see if it turned, it didn't! Well not initially then all appeared OK, on closer inspection I discovered that the motor itself has some form of brake or stop inside. While it's free to be turned manually in the same direction it was last powered it will not turn in the opposite direction until power is applied to move it that way. At first I thought it was jammed or broken but it appears to be normal operation as the rotation is quite free with no nasty feeling rough spots. The limit switches surprised me as well. I come from a satellite background where I'm used to a limit switch killing power to an actuator, if I press one of these it switches the motor into the opposite direction, is that right? Now I know the motor is free to move I've purchased new bearings and will source some suitable grease, primer and paint. The case has become quite pitted inside where the water was laying but it's now all clean after wire brushing and rubbing down. Externally it's in very good condition even where I hit each point with the gas gun to get the bolts out. It goes without saying they'll all be replaced with stainless socket head bolts. 73 Paul G7PUV On 15/06/2018 09:13, John wrote: > Paul, > > It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 (the > KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. > > As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit switch > mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or secondly pull > the start capacitor from the controller and use the rotor limit switches and > capacitor. As far as I can tell from the in-depth dismantling I've done of a > couple of these, either should work, but having both would effectively > render the limit switches redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc > further down the line. > > What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the wiring > config on the back of the screw block - this will have an effect on what you > do later. There was some weird wiring in one of the rotor units I bought, > and it ended up with pins being shorted together inside the connector block > and made everything weird. I made the decision with that one to return it to > 'A' spec as I couldn't be sure what else had been done. If yours is similar > that's the approach I would take. > > If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and sane, and > matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit switches installed, > as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical stop, and if you hit that > and don't realise, but keep sending current up the cable, you'll inevitably > burn out your motor windings after a while. Not such a fun job to fix > (dismantling the motor housing is at least an hour's work on its own), > although easy enough to do with patience. > > Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! > > 73, and a firm left handshake, > John (2E0XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > > Hi all > I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. > The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but was > never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector block looks > untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden so looks pristine > but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip it down today and of > course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite a fight but I attacked it > with fire and it is now apart. > > Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor I > actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is stamped > Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. > > The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I assume has > the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place to use it with my > rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? > > Paul G7PUV > Sussex Coast. JO00 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at amber.org.uk Sat Jun 16 14:06:30 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:06:30 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. In-Reply-To: References: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> <014801d40480$b2806170$17812450$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: <01e201d4057b$39f152e0$add3f8a0$@amber.org.uk> Hi Paul, Yes, I'm 99% sure it's the elevation unit side of a late model KR5600B. I would not recommend running it with both capacitors inline, as the capacitors are effectively used as a timing device to ensure the motor spins in the correct direction. The capacitance delays the current hitting the second set of coils long enough to make the motor spin which allows it to drive the rest of the system. Sending current up both sides at once (due to your capacitor in the controller) will confuse things somewhat The motor auto-reversing is possibly a symptom of this extra capacitor in the wrong place, though since I had weird wiring in my rotor unit which I needed to pull out, I can't verify that from experience. Pull the capacitor wires from your controller and see if you get the same behaviour or not! The disc brake is between the gear on the motor shaft, and the motor housing, and is usually a cork disc. It adds enough friction to 'brake' the motor, but when you energise the coils, the motor shaft physically lifts away from the brake disc. You'll see, if you give the shaft a gentle pull, that it almost lifts away from the motor unit - this is the brake release mechanism. The main thing to remember is that you're working with AC motors here, which run at around 26-28V. As an aside, if you don't have the manual for it, it's worth finding one - I probably have a digital copy somewhere I can send you if needed. The manual has a full and complete wiring diagram for both sides of the system in them. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Sent: 16 June 2018 09:41 To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. Hi John, Thanks for your lengthy reply, I really appreciate it. Just to clarify one thing you think this is a late model Kenpro due to it having the switches and cap inside the casing attached above the positioning pot? I tested the motor last night using the KR400 controller, wiring seems standard on pins 4,5 and 6 so I gave it a couple of briefs bursts to see if it turned, it didn't! Well not initially then all appeared OK, on closer inspection I discovered that the motor itself has some form of brake or stop inside. While it's free to be turned manually in the same direction it was last powered it will not turn in the opposite direction until power is applied to move it that way. At first I thought it was jammed or broken but it appears to be normal operation as the rotation is quite free with no nasty feeling rough spots. The limit switches surprised me as well. I come from a satellite background where I'm used to a limit switch killing power to an actuator, if I press one of these it switches the motor into the opposite direction, is that right? Now I know the motor is free to move I've purchased new bearings and will source some suitable grease, primer and paint. The case has become quite pitted inside where the water was laying but it's now all clean after wire brushing and rubbing down. Externally it's in very good condition even where I hit each point with the gas gun to get the bolts out. It goes without saying they'll all be replaced with stainless socket head bolts. 73 Paul G7PUV On 15/06/2018 09:13, John wrote: > Paul, > > It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 > (the KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. > > As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit > switch mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or > secondly pull the start capacitor from the controller and use the > rotor limit switches and capacitor. As far as I can tell from the > in-depth dismantling I've done of a couple of these, either should > work, but having both would effectively render the limit switches > redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc further down the line. > > What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the wiring > config on the back of the screw block - this will have an effect on > what you do later. There was some weird wiring in one of the rotor > units I bought, and it ended up with pins being shorted together > inside the connector block and made everything weird. I made the > decision with that one to return it to 'A' spec as I couldn't be sure > what else had been done. If yours is similar that's the approach I would take. > > If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and sane, > and matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit switches > installed, as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical stop, and > if you hit that and don't realise, but keep sending current up the > cable, you'll inevitably burn out your motor windings after a while. > Not such a fun job to fix (dismantling the motor housing is at least > an hour's work on its own), although easy enough to do with patience. > > Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! > > 73, and a firm left handshake, > John (2E0XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > > Hi all > I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. > The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but > was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector > block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden > so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip > it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite a > fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. > > Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor I > actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is > stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. > > The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I > assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place > to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? > > Paul G7PUV > Sussex Coast. JO00 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tjschuessler at verizon.net Sat Jun 16 16:14:53 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:14:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat-3 pass attempt. Message-ID: <02dd01d4058d$29220510$7b660f30$@verizon.net> Hi all, Am trying to figure out this Falconsat-3 digipeating thing and have ben on several passes this Saturday morning with only N1RCN heard early. I would like to give this a try on Sunday morning in what would be for me, a 1125Z high elevation pass. I think I kind of now know how to reply to calls, if my Kenwood is set up with the phrases that Patrick Stoddard suggested, but am not sure how you throw out a general call. I have beaconed but never saw my call sign come back from the satellite. Should I see my call come back if I hit it? Is this really APRS beconing or standard Packet that we are supposed to be doing here? `This is definitely not an EASYSAT but I like the challenge. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From ai6do at yahoo.com Sat Jun 16 17:22:49 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat-3 pass attempt. References: <169993013.638371.1529169769904.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <169993013.638371.1529169769904@mail.yahoo.com> Include your CQ call in your StatusText field. Mine currently reads "CQ APRS AI6DO DM03" but I'll change that for Field Day to include both my exchange and my grid. Send your beacon (preferably manually) to "call CQ." Dont expect to get your own beacon back. Most of the time you won't. Properly formatted APRS messages are best as most portable ops won't be able to decode anything else. I also put "QSL de AI6DO" or something similar in my acknowledgment message text. If? you responded to my CQ with your exchange and you get an ACK packet from me, the three way QSO is complete, since I'm not running an unattended station. Hope to hear you on! The farthest I've gotten with FS-3 is EM10, so I may be able to QSO with you if the timing is right. Good luck! 73, Ryan AI6DO On Saturday, June 16, 2018, 9:16:10 AM PDT, wrote: Hi all, Am trying to figure out this Falconsat-3 digipeating thing and have ben on several passes this Saturday morning with only N1RCN heard early.? I would like to give this a try on Sunday morning in what would be for me, a 1125Z high elevation pass.? I think I kind of now know how to reply to calls, if my Kenwood is set up with the phrases that Patrick Stoddard suggested, but am not sure how you throw out a general call.? I have beaconed but never saw my call sign come back from the satellite.? Should I see my call come back if I hit it?? Is this really APRS beconing or standard Packet that we are supposed to be doing here? `This is definitely not an EASYSAT but I like the challenge. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Jun 16 18:32:01 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:32:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method Message-ID: I welcome Rules Feedback, but this is the OPTIMUM way to make FD contacts via a satellite from an APRS radio with the least congestion. DO NOT USE MESSAGES. They will choke the channel with retries and no one will get through. Set your path via the correct Satellite DIGI callsign and turn off proportional pathing and auto-decay. Set interval to 30 seconds. Place your CATEGORY and SECTION in your STATUS text and set beacon time to once a minute. You don't need GRID since all APRS radios display that on receipt based on the position. SO here is your STATUS at the start: CQFD 3AMDC (category and section) Then every time you see someone else's info, QSL them by pressing the F key and SEL button 5 times and it will go directly to place the cursor at the end of your status text for you to add the first contact call: CQFD 3AMDC QSL WB4APR And then when you see the next one, add the next call: CQFD 3AMDC QSL WB4APR,W3ADO And so on. You can be acking up to 4 calls at a time. And your CQ and acks are all in a single packet. You can only count the calls as 2-way if you also see your call in the QSL list of the other station. When you get to 4 calls, then ERASE the first one, and add the next one at the end. and so on. This method keeps the channel load low, automatically captures and records other stations in your STATION LIST and automatically sends your QSL's in your next automatic beacon. This lets you spend your time reviewing the lists, deciding who you have received QSL's from and entering the next calls in your STATUS text. PRACTICE. Yes, pressing F key and SEL key 4 times will get you there since it will go to APRS, then STATUS TEXT, then SELECT the existing one, then SELECT it for editing, and then the cursor goes to the end so you can edit it. You should WRITE down any packets that have your callsign QSLed in them, since once that station has entered 4 more calls, yours drops off his beacon and so your STATION list will no longer have a copy of your call, just his latest 4. In my mind, this is a legal 2-way. You both exchanged grids, and category and section and QSLed and saw your call acknowledged. Again, NEVER us APRS "MESSGE" format via a satellite. It is tremendously inefficient and clogs the channel with retries because the ACKs just dont get through. That's why we invented APRS in the first place. TO get away from the abysimal success of ACKS on a crowded channel. Bob, WB4APR From paul at ukdx.org.uk Sat Jun 16 18:47:37 2018 From: paul at ukdx.org.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:47:37 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. In-Reply-To: <01e201d4057b$39f152e0$add3f8a0$@amber.org.uk> References: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> <014801d40480$b2806170$17812450$@amber.org.uk> <01e201d4057b$39f152e0$add3f8a0$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: Just a quick update, I took the controller capacitor out of line and now the limit switches behave as expected so that's good news. Having cleaned everything I put it back together without grease for the time being with 20 of the best condition bearings in one end and am pleased to say everything works perfectly using the old controller. The new stainless bearings, M6 bolts for the casing and M8 bolts for the bracket have been ordered so hopefully it won't be too long before my ?1 elevation rotator is brought into service. I've downloaded a few manuals now so can match up what I have motor and controller wise. Just being lazy for the moment and to save me searching is there a PC interface available for the 5600 motor and old style Kenpro KR-400 (my azimuth rotator), one that has a stand alone programme to operate them? Thanks again for your help with this little project John. 73 Paul G7PUV On 16/06/2018 15:06, John wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Yes, I'm 99% sure it's the elevation unit side of a late model KR5600B. I would not recommend running it with both capacitors inline, as the capacitors are effectively used as a timing device to ensure the motor spins in the correct direction. The capacitance delays the current hitting the second set of coils long enough to make the motor spin which allows it to drive the rest of the system. Sending current up both sides at once (due to your capacitor in the controller) will confuse things somewhat > > The motor auto-reversing is possibly a symptom of this extra capacitor in the wrong place, though since I had weird wiring in my rotor unit which I needed to pull out, I can't verify that from experience. Pull the capacitor wires from your controller and see if you get the same behaviour or not! > > The disc brake is between the gear on the motor shaft, and the motor housing, and is usually a cork disc. It adds enough friction to 'brake' the motor, but when you energise the coils, the motor shaft physically lifts away from the brake disc. You'll see, if you give the shaft a gentle pull, that it almost lifts away from the motor unit - this is the brake release mechanism. > > The main thing to remember is that you're working with AC motors here, which run at around 26-28V. > > As an aside, if you don't have the manual for it, it's worth finding one - I probably have a digital copy somewhere I can send you if needed. The manual has a full and complete wiring diagram for both sides of the system in them. > > 73, > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul > Sent: 16 June 2018 09:41 > To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > > Hi John, > > Thanks for your lengthy reply, I really appreciate it. Just to clarify one thing you think this is a late model Kenpro due to it having the switches and cap inside the casing attached above the positioning pot? > > I tested the motor last night using the KR400 controller, wiring seems standard on pins 4,5 and 6 so I gave it a couple of briefs bursts to see if it turned, it didn't! Well not initially then all appeared OK, on closer inspection I discovered that the motor itself has some form of brake or stop inside. While it's free to be turned manually in the same direction it was last powered it will not turn in the opposite direction until power is applied to move it that way. At first I thought it was jammed or broken but it appears to be normal operation as the rotation is quite free with no nasty feeling rough spots. > > The limit switches surprised me as well. I come from a satellite background where I'm used to a limit switch killing power to an actuator, if I press one of these it switches the motor into the opposite direction, is that right? > > Now I know the motor is free to move I've purchased new bearings and will source some suitable grease, primer and paint. The case has become quite pitted inside where the water was laying but it's now all clean after wire brushing and rubbing down. Externally it's in very good condition even where I hit each point with the gas gun to get the bolts out. It goes without saying they'll all be replaced with stainless socket head bolts. > > 73 > Paul > G7PUV > > > On 15/06/2018 09:13, John wrote: >> Paul, >> >> It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 >> (the KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. >> >> As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit >> switch mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or >> secondly pull the start capacitor from the controller and use the >> rotor limit switches and capacitor. As far as I can tell from the >> in-depth dismantling I've done of a couple of these, either should >> work, but having both would effectively render the limit switches >> redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc further down the line. >> >> What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the wiring >> config on the back of the screw block - this will have an effect on >> what you do later. There was some weird wiring in one of the rotor >> units I bought, and it ended up with pins being shorted together >> inside the connector block and made everything weird. I made the >> decision with that one to return it to 'A' spec as I couldn't be sure >> what else had been done. If yours is similar that's the approach I would take. >> >> If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and sane, >> and matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit switches >> installed, as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical stop, and >> if you hit that and don't realise, but keep sending current up the >> cable, you'll inevitably burn out your motor windings after a while. >> Not such a fun job to fix (dismantling the motor housing is at least >> an hour's work on its own), although easy enough to do with patience. >> >> Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! >> >> 73, and a firm left handshake, >> John (2E0XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul >> Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. >> >> Hi all >> I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. >> The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but >> was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector >> block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden >> so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip >> it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite a >> fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. >> >> Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor I >> actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is >> stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. >> >> The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I >> assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place >> to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? >> >> Paul G7PUV >> Sussex Coast. JO00 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- Paul Sussex Coast. JO00 Icom IC-R8500, Airspy & RTL 820 SDR. HS Publications D100 TV-DX receiver. Sony XDR F1HD and XDR-GTK interface. Sony 920, RDS Spy, CCW Multicoupler. W4KMA 24-100MHz custom Log Periodic. Wellbrook ALA1530AL1 active HF loop. Triax MTH-13 BIII, Korner 15ele BII. 1.8M Precision dish, C-Band 66E-58W. 1.2M Gibertini dish, KuBand 70E-63W. 2.4M FortecStar dish C-Band 49E-58W. http://www.ukdx.org.uk www.youtube.com/Aceblaggard From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sat Jun 16 19:19:26 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:19:26 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bob! I will be looking to work the packet digipeaters during Field Day, as that has been the easier way for me to get a completed satellite QSO - even when the ISS had its digipeater working. I like the basic premise you outline for a QSO, but it seems like something is missing to call it a QSO. It certainly seems to stop short of what we would consider a QSO if we are working SSB or CW, or for that matter a QSO on an FM satellite. Assuming NO-84's digipeater stays on, I see some NO-84 passes late Saturday afternoon during Field Day. The FalconSat-3 passes come late in Saturday evening and early Sunday morning; I might not be out for those. Based on the AMSAT Field Day rules: https://www.amsat.org/field-day/ I am not sure your approach would meet the definition of a complete QSO. Station A makes a general CQ call, and station B would simply list your call as a QSL in the status text. Then how does station A acknowledge station B's QSL - adding B's call sign to the status text from A? Add in the time of having to edit the status text on the APRS-ready radios, and it gets messy fast. When using messages, at least on the Kenwood radios, you can clear the retry counter once you know the other station received your message. That cuts down on the clutter. It is unfortunate that Kenwood and Yaesu don't provide an option to send messages without requesting an ACK from the other station, but that's the hand we have been dealt. Based on my experience over the past few Field Days on the 145.825 MHz digipeaters, very few ACKs ever get through anyway to clog the frequency. The 145.825 MHz frequency will probably have its assortment of unattended stations squawking away, and FalconSat-3 adds in the traffic from mailbox users. Other than the requirement for ACKs built into the Kenwood and Yaesu APRS-ready radios, APRS messages are really the ideal way to go about completing a QSO. The APRS message format contains the two call signs, and the message text can carry the Field Day exchange, maybe a grid locator, or the "TNX" or "QSL" to wrap up the QSO. It comes closest to how the exchange is laid out in the AMSAT Field Day rules, and it would look more like a QSO for anyone monitoring the traffic on the frequency (or looking on pcsat.aprs.org in the case of NO-84 traffic picked up by APRS gateways). 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK Place your CATEGORY and SECTION in your STATUS text and set beacon time to > once a minute. You don't need GRID since all APRS radios display that on > receipt based on the position. SO here is your STATUS at the start: > > CQFD 3AMDC (category and section) > > Then every time you see someone else's info, QSL them by pressing the F key > and SEL button 5 times and it will go directly to place the cursor at the > end of your status text for you to add the first contact call: > > CQFD 3AMDC QSL WB4APR > > And then when you see the next one, add the next call: > > CQFD 3AMDC QSL WB4APR,W3ADO > > And so on. You can be acking up to 4 calls at a time. And your CQ and > acks are all in a single packet. > > You can only count the calls as 2-way if you also see your call in the QSL > list of the other station. > > When you get to 4 calls, then ERASE the first one, and add the next one at > the end. and so on. > > This method keeps the channel load low, automatically captures and records > other stations in your STATION LIST and automatically sends your QSL's in > your next automatic beacon. This lets you spend your time reviewing the > lists, deciding who you have received QSL's from and entering the next > calls in your STATUS text. > > PRACTICE. Yes, pressing F key and SEL key 4 times will get you there since > it will go to APRS, then STATUS TEXT, then SELECT the existing one, then > SELECT it for editing, and then the cursor goes to the end so you can edit > it. > > You should WRITE down any packets that have your callsign QSLed in them, > since once that station has entered 4 more calls, yours drops off his > beacon and so your STATION list will no longer have a copy of your call, > just his latest 4. > > In my mind, this is a legal 2-way. You both exchanged grids, and category > and section and QSLed and saw your call acknowledged. > > Again, NEVER us APRS "MESSGE" format via a satellite. It is tremendously > inefficient and clogs the channel with retries because the ACKs just dont > get through. That's why we invented APRS in the first place. TO get away > from the abysimal success of ACKS on a crowded channel. > > Bob, WB4APR > > From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 16 22:14:04 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <602075532.1464419.1529187244163@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Rick, Been there done that, so may I suggest a couple of things to reduce your work and speed things up... So, do as Alan has said, then sort the SatPC32_DataBackup folder by Date Descending. You should see only a few files/folders would have recent timestamps. Only focus those files/folders, this will save you lot of time and frustration.? Also before copying over the newer files (one buy one), rename the original files as .ORIG, or .SAVE, so you can bounce back quickly from any problematic file.? Just a thought, hope it helps.? 73!UmeshK6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:04:39 -0500 From: "Alan" To: "'Richard Tejera'" , "'AMSAT'" ??? Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue Message-ID: <000a01d404a1$0a12d880$1e388980$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" Try running the new version without reinstalling your old data.? If that works, you can incrementally restore the old data manually and find the problem. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < < ***************************************** From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 22:28:59 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:28:59 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <889b0df5-5d72-b315-942b-9a9f239538b3@gmail.com> Hi Patrick, What I think you (and I) could do would be to not use the internal Kenwood APRS processing, but instead run the radio in KISS mode and use an external software client. APRSIS32, for example, lets one do messaging without requiring the ACK, and I have it conveniently connected to my Netbook via Bluetooth (so no cabling / USB Serial port issues). But, I haven't tried it via satellite as yet... Should probably do that this week :). Not sure what would happen if the other station still had Acks enabled. At worst I think you'd see several retries, depending on who started the conversation. Haven't diagrammed that out. Good luck on Field Day! Greg KO6TH Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi Bob! > > I will be looking to work the packet digipeaters during > Field Day, as that has been the easier way for me to > get a completed satellite QSO - even when the ISS had its > digipeater working. I like the basic premise you outline > for a QSO, but it seems like something is missing to call > it a QSO. It certainly seems to stop short of what we would > consider a QSO if we are working SSB or CW, or for that > matter a QSO on an FM satellite. > > Assuming NO-84's digipeater stays on, I see some NO-84 > passes late Saturday afternoon during Field Day. The > FalconSat-3 passes come late in Saturday evening and > early Sunday morning; I might not be out for those. > > Based on the AMSAT Field Day rules: > > https://www.amsat.org/field-day/ > > I am not sure your approach would meet the definition of a > complete QSO. Station A makes a general CQ call, and station > B would simply list your call as a QSL in the status text. > Then how does station A acknowledge station B's QSL - adding > B's call sign to the status text from A? Add in the time of > having to edit the status text on the APRS-ready radios, > and it gets messy fast. > > When using messages, at least on the Kenwood radios, you > can clear the retry counter once you know the other station > received your message. That cuts down on the clutter. It is > unfortunate that Kenwood and Yaesu don't provide an option > to send messages without requesting an ACK from the other > station, but that's the hand we have been dealt. Based on > my experience over the past few Field Days on the 145.825 > MHz digipeaters, very few ACKs ever get through anyway to > clog the frequency. The 145.825 MHz frequency will probably > have its assortment of unattended stations squawking away, > and FalconSat-3 adds in the traffic from mailbox users. > > Other than the requirement for ACKs built into the Kenwood > and Yaesu APRS-ready radios, APRS messages are really the > ideal way to go about completing a QSO. The APRS message > format contains the two call signs, and the message text > can carry the Field Day exchange, maybe a grid locator, or > the "TNX" or "QSL" to wrap up the QSO. It comes closest to > how the exchange is laid out in the AMSAT Field Day rules, > and it would look more like a QSO for anyone monitoring the > traffic on the frequency (or looking on pcsat.aprs.org in > the case of NO-84 traffic picked up by APRS gateways). > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > Place your CATEGORY and SECTION in your STATUS text and set beacon time to >> once a minute. You don't need GRID since all APRS radios display that on >> receipt based on the position. SO here is your STATUS at the start: >> >> CQFD 3AMDC (category and section) >> >> Then every time you see someone else's info, QSL them by pressing the F key >> and SEL button 5 times and it will go directly to place the cursor at the >> end of your status text for you to add the first contact call: >> >> CQFD 3AMDC QSL WB4APR >> >> And then when you see the next one, add the next call: >> >> CQFD 3AMDC QSL WB4APR,W3ADO >> >> And so on. You can be acking up to 4 calls at a time. And your CQ and >> acks are all in a single packet. >> >> You can only count the calls as 2-way if you also see your call in the QSL >> list of the other station. >> >> When you get to 4 calls, then ERASE the first one, and add the next one at >> the end. and so on. >> >> This method keeps the channel load low, automatically captures and records >> other stations in your STATION LIST and automatically sends your QSL's in >> your next automatic beacon. This lets you spend your time reviewing the >> lists, deciding who you have received QSL's from and entering the next >> calls in your STATUS text. >> >> PRACTICE. Yes, pressing F key and SEL key 4 times will get you there since >> it will go to APRS, then STATUS TEXT, then SELECT the existing one, then >> SELECT it for editing, and then the cursor goes to the end so you can edit >> it. >> >> You should WRITE down any packets that have your callsign QSLed in them, >> since once that station has entered 4 more calls, yours drops off his >> beacon and so your STATION list will no longer have a copy of your call, >> just his latest 4. >> >> In my mind, this is a legal 2-way. You both exchanged grids, and category >> and section and QSLed and saw your call acknowledged. >> >> Again, NEVER us APRS "MESSGE" format via a satellite. It is tremendously >> inefficient and clogs the channel with retries because the ACKs just dont >> get through. That's why we invented APRS in the first place. TO get away >> from the abysimal success of ACKS on a crowded channel. >> >> Bob, WB4APR >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sat Jun 16 22:38:18 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:38:18 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method In-Reply-To: <889b0df5-5d72-b315-942b-9a9f239538b3@gmail.com> References: <889b0df5-5d72-b315-942b-9a9f239538b3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Greg! If a Kenwood radio receives an APRS message without the request for an ACK, it doesn't transmit anything back to the sending station. The message is received, and the radio's screen changes to alert the operator to the newly-received message. I saw this all the time with those using UISS, since most of those operators don't enable the ACK requirement for their outgoing messages. If I'm remembering correctly, UISS will send ACKs when a message is received with the ACK request, regardless of the UISS ACK setting for outgoing messages.? I don't know much of the program you mentioned; I never put it on any of my Win10 tablets or Win7 laptop. Yes, I could go with a computer in the field, and put the radio into KISS mode to use with software as you mention. I probably won't do that, since I expect I will need to walk a short distance away from my HF setup to get a clear view of enough of the sky to work the satellites. And once I am out of the shade, the screen on a laptop or tablet becomes harder to see, unless I put a box or some shade over it. The displays on the TH-D72 and TH-D74 do better in the bright light, and being able to work those passes without a computer or tablet around is part of the fun for me. Hope to see/hear you on next weekend! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Greg D wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > What I think you (and I) could do would be to not use the internal > Kenwood APRS processing, but instead run the radio in KISS mode and use > an external software client. APRSIS32, for example, lets one do > messaging without requiring the ACK, and I have it conveniently > connected to my Netbook via Bluetooth (so no cabling / USB Serial port > issues). > > But, I haven't tried it via satellite as yet... Should probably do that > this week :). Not sure what would happen if the other station still had > Acks enabled. At worst I think you'd see several retries, depending on > who started the conversation. Haven't diagrammed that out. > > Good luck on Field Day! > From ai6do at yahoo.com Sun Jun 17 00:05:46 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 00:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2021625973.717858.1529193946171@mail.yahoo.com> >I am not sure your approach would meet the definition of a >complete QSO. Station A makes a general CQ call, and station>B would simply list your call as a QSL in the status text. >Then how does station A acknowledge station B's QSL - adding >B's call sign to the status text from A? Yes, that's correct. The CONOPS that Bob WB4APR has outlined is sufficient to qualify as a QSO. Both parties have sent their call and exchange, received same from the other party, and have mutually acknowledged receipt. Both A and B are calling CQ in each beacon they transmit. They simply append the calls of the stations they are "answering" at the same time that they call CQ themselves.? The elegance of the concept is that all communications are beacons--with everyone calling CQ and answering other CQers at the same time--rather than point-to-point messages. It's a very efficient use of the limited resource.?I like the idea in principle. >Add in the time of having to edit the status text on the?>APRS-ready radios, and it gets messy fast. This is my second biggest concern with the concept, especially for those of us who will not be at a computer terminal. I tend to agree that this may be cumbersome to implement on just an HT, but I'll try it out to see how it compares.? What I think is a more fatal flaw is that this just isn't the way we do things the other 363 days of the year. It isn't just a matter of "saying something different" on Field Day. This is a fundamentally different way to make QSOs than we do on packet satellites every other day but Field Day, which is not a recipe for success. It's a classic game theory problem. If I'm the only one following this protocol, I won't be making any QSOs.? Has anyone in recent history successfully made an APRS Field Day QSO in the manner that Bob describes? 73, Ryan AI6DO From john at amber.org.uk Sun Jun 17 00:17:51 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:17:51 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. In-Reply-To: References: <8fb3ef44-9008-d71d-4d70-5fe06512690e@ukdx.org.uk> <014801d40480$b2806170$17812450$@amber.org.uk> <01e201d4057b$39f152e0$add3f8a0$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: <01e901d405d0$a18b62b0$e4a22810$@amber.org.uk> Paul, If your controller doesn't have a DIN socket on the back, then your best bet is to look at the ERC units - the ERC-M interface will talk to azimuth and elevation simultaneously, either on one or two separate connections, and they also sell "rotor cards" which you can install inside your controller, effectively adding an interface to a controller which lacks one. The rotor cards are basically boards with a bunch of relays addressable by the main ERC-M unit. You can find it all on www.easy-rotor-control.com and the best bit about the ERC-M is that it will talk GS232B protocol to a PC, meaning any app that can talk GS232B can address it (including all the popular satellite software). There is also a dedicated rotor control app that ERC produce which is capable of control and readout. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Sent: 16 June 2018 19:48 To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. Just a quick update, I took the controller capacitor out of line and now the limit switches behave as expected so that's good news. Having cleaned everything I put it back together without grease for the time being with 20 of the best condition bearings in one end and am pleased to say everything works perfectly using the old controller. The new stainless bearings, M6 bolts for the casing and M8 bolts for the bracket have been ordered so hopefully it won't be too long before my ?1 elevation rotator is brought into service. I've downloaded a few manuals now so can match up what I have motor and controller wise. Just being lazy for the moment and to save me searching is there a PC interface available for the 5600 motor and old style Kenpro KR-400 (my azimuth rotator), one that has a stand alone programme to operate them? Thanks again for your help with this little project John. 73 Paul G7PUV On 16/06/2018 15:06, John wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Yes, I'm 99% sure it's the elevation unit side of a late model > KR5600B. I would not recommend running it with both capacitors inline, > as the capacitors are effectively used as a timing device to ensure > the motor spins in the correct direction. The capacitance delays the > current hitting the second set of coils long enough to make the motor > spin which allows it to drive the rest of the system. Sending current > up both sides at once (due to your capacitor in the controller) will > confuse things somewhat > > The motor auto-reversing is possibly a symptom of this extra capacitor in the wrong place, though since I had weird wiring in my rotor unit which I needed to pull out, I can't verify that from experience. Pull the capacitor wires from your controller and see if you get the same behaviour or not! > > The disc brake is between the gear on the motor shaft, and the motor housing, and is usually a cork disc. It adds enough friction to 'brake' the motor, but when you energise the coils, the motor shaft physically lifts away from the brake disc. You'll see, if you give the shaft a gentle pull, that it almost lifts away from the motor unit - this is the brake release mechanism. > > The main thing to remember is that you're working with AC motors here, which run at around 26-28V. > > As an aside, if you don't have the manual for it, it's worth finding one - I probably have a digital copy somewhere I can send you if needed. The manual has a full and complete wiring diagram for both sides of the system in them. > > 73, > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul > Sent: 16 June 2018 09:41 > To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > > Hi John, > > Thanks for your lengthy reply, I really appreciate it. Just to clarify one thing you think this is a late model Kenpro due to it having the switches and cap inside the casing attached above the positioning pot? > > I tested the motor last night using the KR400 controller, wiring seems standard on pins 4,5 and 6 so I gave it a couple of briefs bursts to see if it turned, it didn't! Well not initially then all appeared OK, on closer inspection I discovered that the motor itself has some form of brake or stop inside. While it's free to be turned manually in the same direction it was last powered it will not turn in the opposite direction until power is applied to move it that way. At first I thought it was jammed or broken but it appears to be normal operation as the rotation is quite free with no nasty feeling rough spots. > > The limit switches surprised me as well. I come from a satellite background where I'm used to a limit switch killing power to an actuator, if I press one of these it switches the motor into the opposite direction, is that right? > > Now I know the motor is free to move I've purchased new bearings and will source some suitable grease, primer and paint. The case has become quite pitted inside where the water was laying but it's now all clean after wire brushing and rubbing down. Externally it's in very good condition even where I hit each point with the gas gun to get the bolts out. It goes without saying they'll all be replaced with stainless socket head bolts. > > 73 > Paul > G7PUV > > > On 15/06/2018 09:13, John wrote: >> Paul, >> >> It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 >> (the KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. >> >> As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit >> switch mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or >> secondly pull the start capacitor from the controller and use the >> rotor limit switches and capacitor. As far as I can tell from the >> in-depth dismantling I've done of a couple of these, either should >> work, but having both would effectively render the limit switches >> redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc further down the line. >> >> What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the >> wiring config on the back of the screw block - this will have an >> effect on what you do later. There was some weird wiring in one of >> the rotor units I bought, and it ended up with pins being shorted >> together inside the connector block and made everything weird. I made >> the decision with that one to return it to 'A' spec as I couldn't be >> sure what else had been done. If yours is similar that's the approach I would take. >> >> If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and >> sane, and matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit >> switches installed, as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical >> stop, and if you hit that and don't realise, but keep sending current >> up the cable, you'll inevitably burn out your motor windings after a while. >> Not such a fun job to fix (dismantling the motor housing is at least >> an hour's work on its own), although easy enough to do with patience. >> >> Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! >> >> 73, and a firm left handshake, >> John (2E0XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul >> Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. >> >> Hi all >> I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. >> The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but >> was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector >> block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden >> so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip >> it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite >> a fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. >> >> Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor >> I actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is >> stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. >> >> The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I >> assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place >> to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? >> >> Paul G7PUV >> Sussex Coast. JO00 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- Paul Sussex Coast. JO00 Icom IC-R8500, Airspy & RTL 820 SDR. HS Publications D100 TV-DX receiver. Sony XDR F1HD and XDR-GTK interface. Sony 920, RDS Spy, CCW Multicoupler. W4KMA 24-100MHz custom Log Periodic. Wellbrook ALA1530AL1 active HF loop. Triax MTH-13 BIII, Korner 15ele BII. 1.8M Precision dish, C-Band 66E-58W. 1.2M Gibertini dish, KuBand 70E-63W. 2.4M FortecStar dish C-Band 49E-58W. http://www.ukdx.org.uk www.youtube.com/Aceblaggard From SaguaroAstro at cox.net Sun Jun 17 00:23:27 2018 From: SaguaroAstro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:23:27 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002e01d405d1$6a4b23c0$3ee16b40$@cox.net> Umesh and everyone else who offered suggestions, All is well, it looks like it was a corrupted file. I reinstalled and then copied my know good files from my desktop into the laptop files and everything works. YEAH! Thanks again, hope to work you on field day. Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.W7TBC.org -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:14 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue Hi Rick, Been there done that, so may I suggest a couple of things to reduce your work and speed things up... So, do as Alan has said, then sort the SatPC32_DataBackup folder by Date Descending. You should see only a few files/folders would have recent timestamps. Only focus those files/folders, this will save you lot of time and frustration. Also before copying over the newer files (one buy one), rename the original files as .ORIG, or .SAVE, so you can bounce back quickly from any problematic file. Just a thought, hope it helps. 73!UmeshK6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:04:39 -0500 From: "Alan" To: "'Richard Tejera'" , "'AMSAT'" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue Message-ID: <000a01d404a1$0a12d880$1e388980$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Try running the new version without reinstalling your old data. If that works, you can incrementally restore the old data manually and find the problem. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < < ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kt4tz at cfl.rr.com Sun Jun 17 01:21:26 2018 From: kt4tz at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:21:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <300cded2-a32c-099b-b4dc-25d74cbd29d2@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-168 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites * CAMSAT Details on Three Satellites and an HF Transponder * 3A Monaco Activation on FM Satellites in July * ARISS Ham Video Transmitter Aboard ISS Defective * Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-168.01 ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 168.01 ?From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE June 17, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-168.01 AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites It?s that time of year again; summer and Field Day! Each year the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) sponsors Field Day as a ?picnic, a campout, practice for emergencies, an informal contest and, most of all, FUN!? The event takes place during a 23-hour period on the fourth weekend of June. For 2018 the event takes place during a 27-hour period from 1800 UTC on Saturday, June 23, 2018 through 2100 UTC on Sunday, June 24, 2018. Those who set up prior to 1800 UTC on June 23 can operate only 24 hours. The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) promotes its own version of Field Day for operation via the amateur sat- ellites, held concurrently with the ARRL event. This year should be easier than many years since we have more than 10 transponders and repeaters available. Users should check the AMSAT status page at http://www.amsat.org/status/ and the pages at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177 for what is available in the weeks leading up to field day. To reduce the amount of time to research each satellite, see the current FM satellite table at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5012 and the current linear satellite table at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5033 If you are considering ONLY the FM voice satellites, there are SO-50, AO-85, AO-91, and AO-92. It might be easier this year to make that one FM contact for the ARRL bonus points with so many FM birds. The congestion on FM LEO satellites is always so intense that we must continue to limit their use to one-QSO-per-FM-satellite. This includes the International Space Station. You will be allowed one QSO if the ISS is operating Voice. AO-92 may be in L/v for the first part of the event, depending on command station availability. Keep an eye on @AMSAT on Twitter for expected L/v mode change times. The full set of rules are posted at: https://www.amsat.org/field-day/ [ANS thanks AMSAT Director Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, ? for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- CAMSAT Details on Three Satellites and an HF Transponder CAMSAT, China?s Amateur Radio Satellite organization, has offered additional details about the three Amateur Radio satellites it plans to launch later this year. Two of the satellites, designated CAS-5A and CAS-6, will carry transponders, and one of them will offer HF capability. CAMSAT?s Alan Kung, BA1DU, told ARRL that the 6U CAS-5A will carry two HF transponders and two V/UHF trans- ponders. The plentiful equipment package includes an H/T (21/29 MHz) mode linear transponder, an H/U (21/435 MHz) mode linear transponder, ?an HF CW telemetry beacon, a V/U linear transponder, a V/U FM trans- ?ponder, a UHF CW telemetry beacon, and UHF AX.25 4.8k/9.6k baud GMSK ?telemetry. + The H/T mode linear transponder will have a 30 kHz wide uplink centered ? on 21.400 MHz, and a downlink centered on 29.490 MHz. RF output is 0.5 W. + An HF CW telemetry beacon will transmit on 29.465 MHz with 0.1 W. + The H/U mode linear transponder will have a 15 kHz wide uplink centered ? on 21.435 MHz, and a downlink centered on 435.505 MHz. The RF output is ? 0.5 W. + The V/U mode linear transponder will have a 30 kHz wide uplink at ? 145.820 MHz, and a downlink at 435.540 MHz. The RF output is 0.5 W. + The V/U mode FM transponder will uplink at 145.925 MHz, and downlink ? at 435.600 MHz. The transponder passband is 15 kHz, and the RF output ? is 0.5 W. + The UHF CW telemetry beacon will transmit on 435.570 MHz, with an RF ? output of 0.1 W. + UHF AX.25 4.8k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry will transmit on 435.650 MHz ? at 0.5 W. Kung told ARRL that the HF, VHF, and UHF antennas are quarter-wave monopoles. A satellite within a satellite, the tiny CAS-5B, weighing 0.5 kilogram, will be deployed from CAS-5A in orbit. It will carry a UHF CW beacon on an Amateur Radio frequency. Both CAS-5A and CAS-5B will be placed into 539 ? 533 kilometer, 97.5? orbits. They will launch from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in late September. The 50-kilogram CAS-6 microsat will include a VHF CW telemetry beacon, a U/V mode 20 kHz linear Amateur Radio transponder, and AX.25 4.8k baud GMSK telemetry. It will also carry an atmospheric wind detector and other systems that will operate on non-amateur frequencies. A launch at sea on an as-yet undetermined date is planned for CAS-6 from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology. The microsat will be placed into a 579 ? 579 kilometer, 45? orbit. [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3A Monaco Activation on FM Satellites in July F4DXV plans FM satellite operation from 3A Monaco (JN33) on Monday 02 July ~08:30z to 13z only during a quick break from his trip to Italy. Jerome says, "Due to a bad horizon (mountains, buildings), I could be only QRV for EU on high FM orbits." [ANS thanks Daily DX for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS Ham Video Transmitter Aboard ISS Defective Gaston Bertels, ON4WF has provided an update regarding the condition of the ARISS HamTV system aboard the ISS. In mid-April, the Ham Video transmitter on board the Columbus module of the ISS stopped working. Extensive testing was performed by the crew on June 1, 2018 which comprised connecting the transmitter to the second ARISS L/S-band patch antenna on the nadir of Columbus. The test was negative. Ground stations did not receive any signal from Ham Video. Since on-board repair is impossible ARISS is planning to return the transmitter to Earth. Bertels wrote, "We hope this plan will be accepted by the space agencies and the cost of operations funded by sponsors. Schools and crew members performing educational ARISS school contacts are delighted to use Ham Video. We will do the best we can to restart this service as soon as possible. We will keep you informed on progress." Additional information about the HamTV project can be found on-line at: https://www.amsat-on.be/ [ANS thanks Gaston Bertels, ON4WF and ARISS HamTV for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors The AMSAT News Service (ANS) is seeking volunteers to serve as rotating editors for its weekly newsletter. Editors work on a rotating schedule, each taking a different turn editing a specific week's newsletter as scheduled by the ANS Editor in Chief. Editors support each other by seeking and reporting to the Editor of the week, information and resources of interest to the AMSAT community. The number of newsletters assigned will be dependent upon the number of available editors at any given time. The average editor can expect to spend, on average, 4-5 hours for each newsletter, dependent on available material. Prospective editors are required to be AMSAT members in good standing and have a genuine interest in satellite operation and an understanding of AMSAT's mission. Former editing experience is a plus but not required. If interested, please submit an inquiry, including your contact information to ans-editor at amsat.com. [ANS thanks the ANS editors for the above information] /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KT4TZ kt4tz at amsat dot org From wmc_jx at 163.com Sun Jun 17 01:49:53 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:49:53 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for Next Week Message-ID: <4ea1d43a.12c9.1640b6f3011.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: 19 Jun 08:25 UTC to 19 Jun 10:25 UTC 22 Jun 21:00 UTC to 22 Jun 23:00 UTC 23 Jun 11:00 UTC to 23 Jun 13:00 UTC 23 Jun 22:00 UTC to 24 Jun 00:00 UTC 24 Jun 12:00 UTC to 24 Jun 14:00 UTC VY TNX & 73! Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 17 01:51:30 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <592178937.1509740.1529200290366@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I can't believe I'm jumping on a discussion by THE experts - Bob, Patrick and others. I must confess that I have sometimes used MHEARD to ACK several callsigns all at once, with very limited success. Since this was an impromptu approach, the other stations had no idea that I was trying to save air time.? ( sorry the idea using a beacon as a CQ/ACK never occurred but is quite interesting ) Secondly, I have used UISS with ACK enabled only because I had a non-optimal TX antenna and wanted a "physical layer ACK", to ensure my packets were being heard at the bird.? The good thing is that once I got this, I was essentially off the air waiting for a response to my CQ or QSO ACK.?? I did however set the path to satellite callsign only.? Thirdly, I'll be using a portable setup with laptop et al - SatPC32, SDRsharp (as RX), IC7000 (as TX), and a logging program.? Lastly, this is my AHHA moment - now I know how I get QSO ACKs from Patrick so fast, while I have to struggle with UISS screen to send my QSO ACK. Most enlightening discussion !? 73!? Umesh, K6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 00:05:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Ryan Noguchi To: AMSAT Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method Message-ID: <2021625973.717858.1529193946171 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >I am not sure your approach would meet the definition of a >complete QSO. Station A makes a general CQ call, and station>B would simply list your call as a QSL in the status text. >Then how does station A acknowledge station B's QSL - adding >B's call sign to the status text from A? Yes, that's correct. The CONOPS that Bob WB4APR has outlined is sufficient to qualify as a QSO. Both parties have sent their call and exchange, received same from the other party, and have mutually acknowledged receipt. Both A and B are calling CQ in each beacon they transmit. They simply append the calls of the stations they are "answering" at the same time that they call CQ themselves.? The elegance of the concept is that all communications are beacons--with everyone calling CQ and answering other CQers at the same time--rather than point-to-point messages. It's a very efficient use of the limited resource.?I like the idea in principle. >Add in the time of having to edit the status text on the?>APRS-ready radios, and it gets messy fast. This is my second biggest concern with the concept, especially for those of us who will not be at a computer terminal. I tend to agree that this may be cumbersome to implement on just an HT, but I'll try it out to see how it compares.? What I think is a more fatal flaw is that this just isn't the way we do things the other 363 days of the year. It isn't just a matter of "saying something different" on Field Day. This is a fundamentally different way to make QSOs than we do on packet satellites every other day but Field Day, which is not a recipe for success. It's a classic game theory problem. If I'm the only one following this protocol, I won't be making any QSOs.? Has anyone in recent history successfully made an APRS Field Day QSO in the manner that Bob describes? 73, Ryan AI6DO ------------------------------ From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 17 03:01:15 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 23:01:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Upcoming_ARISS_contact_with_Tehnicka_sk?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ola_Zajecar=2C_Zajecar=2C_Serbia?= Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Tehnicka skola Zajecar, Zajecar, Serbia on 19 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 14:20 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between YU1ACR and OR4ISS. The contact should be audible over Serbia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Technical school from Zaje?ar is a secondary vocational school in Eastern Serbia. The school includes educational profiles in the fields of electrical engineering, transport, mechanical engineering and information technology. For years, the school has been involved in various reform projects secondary vocational education, which resulted in the introduction of new experimental educational profiles mechatronics and information technologies. An important segment in the school is non-formal education and work in the sections. In the field of robotics, our students record excellent results at national competitions. In 2017, the school launched a state-level "ARDUINO KUP" competition where students displayed their skills in the field of microcontrollers. The competition was organized in 2018, and we hope that the competition will soon take on an international character. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. Do you play any sport on the ISS? 2. How much do you sleep? 3. How many days you can spend on the ISS in a row? 4. How do you feel when you return from ISS to the Earth? 5. Does everyone sleep at the same time? 6. Do you eat only prepared food or you can cook something? 7. How often are you in contact with your family on Earth? 8. What was your most interesting experience on ISS? 9. Can you have any allergic reactions on ISS? 10. How to go to the toilet on ISS? 11. How many work hours do you have a day? 12. Did you ever get sick during your stay at the ISS? 13. Are you sweating during your stay at the ISS? 14. What fun activities do you do in space? 15. Do you wear ordinary or special clothes? 16. What is the experience when during the spacewalk? 17. What do you miss the most during your stay at the ISS? 18. Does the ISS make noise? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 06:04:39 2018 From: ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com (Eric Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 02:04:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Angle Linear BT2N Bias Tees Message-ID: <006d01d40601$143e05d0$3cba1170$@gmail.com> Never used commercial grade high performance bias tees. $75.00 plus shipping from 20015. PayPal accepted 73, Eric W3DQ Washington, DC From dave at w5dmt.com Sun Jun 17 12:42:53 2018 From: dave at w5dmt.com (Dave Tipton, W5DMT) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:42:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question Message-ID: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me in the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, and it was the same. What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but that didn't seem to change anything either. Thanks, Dave Dave Tipton, W5DMT (615) 689-0685 dave at w5dmt.com From k6fw1 at verizon.net Sun Jun 17 15:47:36 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:47:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question In-Reply-To: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> References: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> Message-ID: <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9@verizon.net> Dave, You will need to set your grid in either the HRD Logbook or DM780 terminal programs.? Your grid is set under the "My Station" section.? Go to "Tools" pull down menu bar in DM780 select "My Station" or in Logbook go to "Tools" menu bar them "Configure" and then "My Station" 73, Frank K6FW On 6/17/18 5:42 AM, Dave Tipton, W5DMT wrote: > I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go > into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me in > the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. > > > > To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. > > > > Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, > and it was the same. > > > > What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but > that didn't seem to change anything either. > > > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > Dave Tipton, W5DMT > > > > (615) 689-0685 > > dave at w5dmt.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 15:50:01 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:50:01 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for Next Week In-Reply-To: <4ea1d43a.12c9.1640b6f3011.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> References: <4ea1d43a.12c9.1640b6f3011.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Message-ID: Wei, Thanks for advising. Was not able to decode this week-end and found a few issue with my station. Such as a few loose plugs, antenna pointing etc? Thanks to DSLWP-B, these issue were not even noticeable on LEO?s but when investigating why not receiving DSLWP it enabled me to find many shortcomings, and now able to go through most of the birds with minimum power and no preamp switch on which is absolutely incredible for me. Therefore major improvement of the station this side. Hopefully will be able to receive something during the next passes. Congratulations to all having decoded the telemetry of DSLWP-B this week-end. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:49 AM, ??? wrote: > > Hi OMs, > > > The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: > > > 19 Jun 08:25 UTC to 19 Jun 10:25 UTC > 22 Jun 21:00 UTC to 22 Jun 23:00 UTC > 23 Jun 11:00 UTC to 23 Jun 13:00 UTC > 23 Jun 22:00 UTC to 24 Jun 00:00 UTC > 24 Jun 12:00 UTC to 24 Jun 14:00 UTC > > > VY TNX & 73! > > > Wei > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pconver at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 16:37:47 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 13:37:47 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question In-Reply-To: <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9@verizon.net> References: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hello Dave, An easy app for field day to track satellites is at: http://amsat.org.ar/pass Will work on any portable device even without Internet, good luck and plenty QSOs. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On 6/17/18, Frank wrote: > Dave, > > You will need to set your grid in either the HRD Logbook or DM780 > terminal programs. Your grid is set under the "My Station" section. Go > to "Tools" pull down menu bar in DM780 select "My Station" or in Logbook > go to "Tools" menu bar them "Configure" and then "My Station" > > 73, > Frank > K6FW > > On 6/17/18 5:42 AM, Dave Tipton, W5DMT wrote: >> I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go >> into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me >> in >> the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. >> >> To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. >> >> Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, >> and it was the same. >> What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but >> that didn't seem to change anything either. >> Thanks, >> Dave >> Dave Tipton, W5DMT >> (615) 689-0685 >> dave at w5dmt.com From inservice2him at hotmail.com Sun Jun 17 15:17:46 2018 From: inservice2him at hotmail.com (Kirk P) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:17:46 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsatdroid/SATPC32 mismatch Message-ID: Hello, Newbie questions: Have SATPC32 running on desktop, Amsatdroid on Android phone. Dl same KEPS, Using EXACT same GPS coordinates but AMSATDROID has passes up to an hour off of SATPC32 depending on bird. Example: AO-92 next pass SATPC states 17:57 AOS w/Max EL of 27 deg. AMSATDROID: States 16:28 AOS w/Max El of 20.5 deg What am I missing? Thanks Kirk N0KK Sent from Outlook From k5vou2 at verizon.net Sun Jun 17 15:35:46 2018 From: k5vou2 at verizon.net (K5VOU) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 10:35:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is there an AMSAT Brandmeister Talkgroup? Message-ID: I have discovered how easy it is to talk to ham around the world using the Brandmeister network and an inexpensive hot spot device. Right now I am listening to TG91 which is world wide and really enjoying it. I have seen several special TG listed and wondered if any AMSAT organization has a TG and if so what is the number? 73, Tom K5VOU LM 2032 From dave at w5dmt.com Sun Jun 17 16:59:47 2018 From: dave at w5dmt.com (Dave Tipton) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 11:59:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question In-Reply-To: <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9@verizon.net> References: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9@verizon.net> Message-ID: I found it, thanks! It's all working now. Had to get it set up here in the shack, and on the laptop. Was driving me crazy. 73, Dave On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: > Dave, > > You will need to set your grid in either the HRD Logbook or DM780 terminal > programs. Your grid is set under the "My Station" section. Go to "Tools" > pull down menu bar in DM780 select "My Station" or in Logbook go to "Tools" > menu bar them "Configure" and then "My Station" > > 73, > Frank > K6FW > > On 6/17/18 5:42 AM, Dave Tipton, W5DMT wrote: > >> I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go >> into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me >> in >> the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. >> >> >> To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. >> >> >> Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, >> and it was the same. >> >> >> What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but >> that didn't seem to change anything either. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >> Dave Tipton, W5DMT >> >> >> (615) 689-0685 >> >> dave at w5dmt.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > -- *Dave Tipton, W5DMT* 615-689-0685 *Secretary* - Maury Amateur Radio Club From hugois at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 18:22:27 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 11:22:27 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working APRS Message-ID: <04813cde-8820-3aa7-6234-0bf983147a67@gmail.com> This weekend I decided to try APRS on the ISS, NO-44 and AO-84. So far I have heard nothing on the ISS. I've heard that the radio is down. Is it still down completely or only for certain frequencies? Are any available on the ISS? I was using 145.825 for the ISS and AO-84 on APRS. I did hear a sound shortly yesterday either on AO-84 or NO-44, but not long enough to receive packets. I've also tried the ISS on 437.550. This page shows that APRS was last heard 1 week and 1 day ago https://www.issfanclub.com I'll try AO-84 in a minute to see again. What other birds does anyone recommend for APRS? NExt I will try PSK31. LEarning one new thing at a time with the birds -- Hugo Dominguez, Jr. From royldean at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 18:49:34 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 14:49:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working APRS Message-ID: Hugo, ISS is down indefinitely for APRS. There is a new system on earth that is waiting for a ride to the station, but until then - don't count on ISS packet. Their voice system seems to still work fine, so you may get lucky if you call them (but probably not - I've tried 100 times over the last 2 yeara, and nobody ever returns my call). NO-84 works just fine when the digipeater is on. If the battery voltage falls too low, then the digipeater turns off and has to be manually reset (And I think DK3WN is the only command station currently). NO-44 is very difficult to work. User agreement explicitly states that you are not to attempt digipeating using the "W3ADO" path, but that seems to be the only one that works. I've tried a few times when it was in "PCSAT" mode and it just flips to W3ADO, or sends a poor excuse for a packet that won't decode. The only other packet option is Falconsat-3, which is 9600bps. It is always on, however, but takes more skill to operate than the 1200bps sats. --Roy K3RLD > This weekend I decided to try APRS on the ISS, NO-44 and AO-84. So far I > have heard nothing on the ISS. I've heard that the radio is down. Is it > still down completely or only for certain frequencies? Are any available > on the ISS? I was using 145.825 for the ISS and AO-84 on APRS. I did > hear a sound shortly yesterday either on AO-84 or NO-44, but not long > enough to receive packets. I've also tried the ISS on 437.550. This page > shows that APRS was last heard 1 week and 1 day ago > https://www.issfanclub.com I'll try AO-84 in a minute to see again. What > other birds does anyone > recommend for APRS? NExt I will try PSK31. LEarning one new thing at a > time with the birds -- > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. From ai6do at yahoo.com Sun Jun 17 19:01:05 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Working APRS In-Reply-To: <04813cde-8820-3aa7-6234-0bf983147a67@gmail.com> References: <04813cde-8820-3aa7-6234-0bf983147a67@gmail.com> Message-ID: <293080855.916970.1529262065159@mail.yahoo.com> Christy KB6LTY and I had a QSO on NO-84 a few minutes ago. Only NO-84 (PSAT) and FalconSat-3 seem to be QRV for satellite APRS at this point. The common practice is to send a beacon that serves as a implicit CQ. I actually use "CQ APRS AI6DO DM03" as my StatusText. You respond by sending a message back to that station with your grid. If you get an ACK packet back, or you get an APRS message packet with some indication that the recipient has QSLed, then you've successfully completed a QSO via APRS! There is another way to make QSOs on APRS, which Bob WB4APR described on this list yesterday. It's an elegant solution from an RF perspective, relying only on beacon packets that go to everyone rather than point-to-point messages. However, it seems somewhat impractical to implement when using an HT; an awful lot of keystrokes are required to manually enter callsigns. I may yet try it on Field Day in addition to (not in lieu of) the conventional message passing method, but I suspect it isn't going to be popular enough to garner any QSOs.? That page you mention indicates that the status of ISS packet was last updated 8 days ago, and that status was "not active," not that packet was last active 8 days ago.?Check the AMSAT status page (http://www.amsat.org/status/index.php) for live updates from folks who use (or at least listen in on) the birds. That Greek station keeps reporting NO-44 being operational, but I think I've gotten to the point where I no longer believe those reports, having tried NO-44 unsuccessfully several times over the past couple of months and seeing no indication of PCSat digipeating activity on findu.com. Frankly, I think that guy is reporting the wrong satellite. Should be NO-84, not NO-44. Hope to get a QSO with you via APRS, hopefully on Field Day! 73, Ryan AI6DO On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 11:36:44 AM PDT, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: This weekend I decided to try APRS on the ISS, NO-44 and AO-84. So far I have heard nothing on the ISS. I've heard that the radio is down. Is it still down completely or only for certain frequencies? Are any available on the ISS? I was using 145.825 for the ISS and AO-84 on APRS. I did hear a sound shortly yesterday either on AO-84 or NO-44, but not long enough to receive packets. I've also tried the ISS on 437.550. This page shows that APRS was last heard 1 week and 1 day ago https://www.issfanclub.com From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu Sun Jun 17 18:58:18 2018 From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 13:58:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsatdroid/SATPC32 mismatch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kirk, Not familiar with the Android program, as I'm an iOS guy, but double check your latitude and longitude in SatPC32 and make sure that the longitude is entered with a minus sign in front of it for western hemisphere. You should see the little white + over Minnesota. FWIW, the next AO-92 pass for us begins at 02:09z (21:09 local). I don't believe either of the times you got was correct for the last one (AOS at 17:05z by my reckoning). Give me a call if I can be of help. -- Mark D. Johns K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM Kirk P wrote: > Hello, > > > Newbie questions: > > > Have SATPC32 running on desktop, Amsatdroid on Android phone. > > > Dl same KEPS, Using EXACT same GPS coordinates but AMSATDROID has passes > up to an hour off of SATPC32 depending on bird. > > > Example: AO-92 next pass SATPC states 17:57 AOS w/Max EL of 27 deg. > > AMSATDROID: States 16:28 AOS w/Max El of 20.5 deg > > > What am I missing? > > > Thanks > > Kirk N0KK > > > Sent from Outlook > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ny4i at NY4I.com Sun Jun 17 19:05:54 2018 From: ny4i at NY4I.com (Tom Schaefer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:05:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes Message-ID: Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a list of passes for that time I can print out. I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort by time but I hope that problem has already been solved. Thanks Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 From jim at milnet.uk.net Sun Jun 17 19:14:18 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:14:18 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: Hi folks, I have just changed the sat into education mode (full power beacon in sunlight, low power beacon plus transponder on in darkness). Due to operator availability, it may not be possible to switch to full time transponder mode next weekend. 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team. From ai6do at yahoo.com Sun Jun 17 19:21:27 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> The quickest way is to use the Heavens Above website interface. You'll get a lot of chaff (satellites you can't work), but you can print it out and apply a highlighter to the passes of interest. Or you can literally copy and paste each whole page (24 hrs of passes) to Excel, and then filter as needed. I don't use the AMSAT predicts page much since it only allows you to select one satellite at a time. One issue with the Heavens Above web interface is that CAS-4A is excluded for some reason.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:10:19 PM PDT, Tom Schaefer wrote: Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a list of passes for that time I can print out. I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort by time but I hope that problem has already been solved. Thanks Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 19:26:04 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:26:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Computer programs SatPC32, Orbitron, MacDoppler, and probably others will do this. If you give me your grid square and what sats you want and the exact time range I will generate the list for you. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote: > The quickest way is to use the Heavens Above website interface. You'll get a lot of chaff (satellites you can't work), but you can print it out and apply a highlighter to the passes of interest. Or you can literally copy and paste each whole page (24 hrs of passes) to Excel, and then filter as needed. I don't use the AMSAT predicts page much since it only allows you to select one satellite at a time. One issue with the Heavens Above web interface is that CAS-4A is excluded for some reason. > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:10:19 PM PDT, Tom Schaefer wrote: > > Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? > > I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a list of passes for that time I can print out. > > I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort by time but I hope that problem has already been solved. > > Thanks > > Tom NY4I > > Principal Solutions Architect > Better Software Solutions, Inc. > 727-437-2771 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Jun 17 19:26:19 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:26:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The easiest way is to use WinAOS, installed as part of SatPC32. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > The quickest way is to use the Heavens Above website interface. You'll > get a lot of chaff (satellites you can't work), but you can print it out > and apply a highlighter to the passes of interest. Or you can literally > copy and paste each whole page (24 hrs of passes) to Excel, and then filter > as needed. I don't use the AMSAT predicts page much since it only allows > you to select one satellite at a time. One issue with the Heavens Above web > interface is that CAS-4A is excluded for some reason. > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:10:19 PM PDT, Tom Schaefer > wrote: > > Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite > passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? > > I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a > list of passes for that time I can print out. > > I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort by > time but I hope that problem has already been solved. > > Thanks > > Tom NY4I > > Principal Solutions Architect > Better Software Solutions, Inc. > 727-437-2771 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 19:35:44 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:35:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: References: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <532B98DF-50D8-4DB9-BA9E-1CF850C27B6E@gmail.com> HamSat for iPhone has an ?Override System Time? function in setting where you can pick the date and time. Easy to assume other phone apps do too. I would, however, suggest SatPC32 or Orbitron to make the predictions. Much more robust and you can create printable / saveable text files. E. EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2018, at 3:26 PM, John Brier wrote: > > Computer programs SatPC32, Orbitron, MacDoppler, and probably others > will do this. If you give me your grid square and what sats you want > and the exact time range I will generate the list for you. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB > wrote: >> The quickest way is to use the Heavens Above website interface. You'll get a lot of chaff (satellites you can't work), but you can print it out and apply a highlighter to the passes of interest. Or you can literally copy and paste each whole page (24 hrs of passes) to Excel, and then filter as needed. I don't use the AMSAT predicts page much since it only allows you to select one satellite at a time. One issue with the Heavens Above web interface is that CAS-4A is excluded for some reason. >> >> 73, Ryan AI6DO >> On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:10:19 PM PDT, Tom Schaefer wrote: >> >> Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? >> >> I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a list of passes for that time I can print out. >> >> I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort by time but I hope that problem has already been solved. >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom NY4I >> >> Principal Solutions Architect >> Better Software Solutions, Inc. >> 727-437-2771 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ny4i at ny4i.com Sun Jun 17 20:51:01 2018 From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:51:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: References: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all. I forgot about WinAOS. That might be easier as I can select just the sats I want. I will ask another question about resetting the saved window position as last time I ran SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. Thanks, Tom > On Jun 17, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > The easiest way is to use WinAOS, installed as part of SatPC32. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> The quickest way is to use the Heavens Above website interface. You'll >> get a lot of chaff (satellites you can't work), but you can print it out >> and apply a highlighter to the passes of interest. Or you can literally >> copy and paste each whole page (24 hrs of passes) to Excel, and then filter >> as needed. I don't use the AMSAT predicts page much since it only allows >> you to select one satellite at a time. One issue with the Heavens Above web >> interface is that CAS-4A is excluded for some reason. >> >> 73, Ryan AI6DO >> On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:10:19 PM PDT, Tom Schaefer >> wrote: >> >> Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite >> passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? >> >> I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a >> list of passes for that time I can print out. >> >> I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort by >> time but I hope that problem has already been solved. >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom NY4I >> >> Principal Solutions Architect >> Better Software Solutions, Inc. >> 727-437-2771 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ny4i at ny4i.com Sun Jun 17 20:53:26 2018 From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:53:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reset SatPC32 window position Message-ID: <4C1AC060-DCE1-46B1-9EDF-36ED3E22CD3D@ny4i.com> Does anyone know where the saved window position is kept for SatPC32? I ask as last time I used SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. SatPC32 was on the other monitor. It does not appear to detect that the system now has a single monitor and bring the window into the viewable area. When I run the program, it is starting on the second monitor and I need to reset its saved position. Thanks, Tom NY4I From pconver at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 22:53:35 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:53:35 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: References: <1575083028.887415.1529263287658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Try http://amsat.org.ar/pass?type=fm & click print or print-preview. Type can be either fm or ssb or weather or digital, or select wanted. Will show next passes ordered by time for several days. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On 6/17/18, Thomas Schaefer wrote: > Thanks to all. I forgot about WinAOS. > > That might be easier as I can select just the sats I want. > > I will ask another question about resetting the saved window position as > last time I ran SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. > > Thanks, > > Tom > >> On Jun 17, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >> The easiest way is to use WinAOS, installed as part of SatPC32. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB < >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: >> >>> The quickest way is to use the Heavens Above website interface. You'll >>> get a lot of chaff (satellites you can't work), but you can print it out >>> and apply a highlighter to the passes of interest. Or you can literally >>> copy and paste each whole page (24 hrs of passes) to Excel, and then >>> filter >>> as needed. I don't use the AMSAT predicts page much since it only allows >>> you to select one satellite at a time. One issue with the Heavens Above >>> web >>> interface is that CAS-4A is excluded for some reason. >>> >>> 73, Ryan AI6DO >>> On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:10:19 PM PDT, Tom Schaefer >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone recommend an easy way to generate a list of all satellite >>> passes for a particular grid for a whole weekend? >>> >>> I would like to pick a list of sats, a grid and a date range and get a >>> list of passes for that time I can print out. >>> >>> I can do it for a single sat and paste it into a spreadsheet then sort >>> by >>> time but I hope that problem has already been solved. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tom NY4I >>> >>> Principal Solutions Architect >>> Better Software Solutions, Inc. >>> 727-437-2771 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jun 18 00:48:10 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:48:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 210 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <349E329A-0D87-453A-8FD5-6FCB167295B8@verizon.net> I think I can come up with two or three more nine amp hour batteries if we have a way to enter connect them. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:47, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Another KR500 thread, maybe. (John) > 2. Re: SATPC32 reinstall issue (Rick Tejera) > 3. ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb) > 4. DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for Next Week (???) > 5. Re: APRS FD method (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) > 6. Upcoming ARISS contact with Tehnicka skola Zajecar, Zajecar, > Serbia (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) > 7. FS: Angle Linear BT2N Bias Tees (Eric Rosenberg) > 8. HRD Satellite Tracking Question (Dave Tipton, W5DMT) > 9. Re: HRD Satellite Tracking Question (Frank) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:17:51 +0100 > From: "John" > To: "'Paul'" , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > Message-ID: <01e901d405d0$a18b62b0$e4a22810$@amber.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Paul, > > If your controller doesn't have a DIN socket on the back, then your best bet is to look at the ERC units - the ERC-M interface will talk to azimuth and elevation simultaneously, either on one or two separate connections, and they also sell "rotor cards" which you can install inside your controller, effectively adding an interface to a controller which lacks one. The rotor cards are basically boards with a bunch of relays addressable by the main ERC-M unit. > > You can find it all on www.easy-rotor-control.com and the best bit about the ERC-M is that it will talk GS232B protocol to a PC, meaning any app that can talk GS232B can address it (including all the popular satellite software). There is also a dedicated rotor control app that ERC produce which is capable of control and readout. > > 73, > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul > Sent: 16 June 2018 19:48 > To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > > Just a quick update, I took the controller capacitor out of line and now the limit switches behave as expected so that's good news. Having cleaned everything I put it back together without grease for the time being with 20 of the best condition bearings in one end and am pleased to say everything works perfectly using the old controller. > > The new stainless bearings, M6 bolts for the casing and M8 bolts for the bracket have been ordered so hopefully it won't be too long before my ?1 elevation rotator is brought into service. I've downloaded a few manuals now so can match up what I have motor and controller wise. > > Just being lazy for the moment and to save me searching is there a PC interface available for the 5600 motor and old style Kenpro KR-400 (my azimuth rotator), one that has a stand alone programme to operate them? > > Thanks again for your help with this little project John. > > 73 > Paul > G7PUV > >> On 16/06/2018 15:06, John wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> Yes, I'm 99% sure it's the elevation unit side of a late model >> KR5600B. I would not recommend running it with both capacitors inline, >> as the capacitors are effectively used as a timing device to ensure >> the motor spins in the correct direction. The capacitance delays the >> current hitting the second set of coils long enough to make the motor >> spin which allows it to drive the rest of the system. Sending current >> up both sides at once (due to your capacitor in the controller) will >> confuse things somewhat >> >> The motor auto-reversing is possibly a symptom of this extra capacitor in the wrong place, though since I had weird wiring in my rotor unit which I needed to pull out, I can't verify that from experience. Pull the capacitor wires from your controller and see if you get the same behaviour or not! >> >> The disc brake is between the gear on the motor shaft, and the motor housing, and is usually a cork disc. It adds enough friction to 'brake' the motor, but when you energise the coils, the motor shaft physically lifts away from the brake disc. You'll see, if you give the shaft a gentle pull, that it almost lifts away from the motor unit - this is the brake release mechanism. >> >> The main thing to remember is that you're working with AC motors here, which run at around 26-28V. >> >> As an aside, if you don't have the manual for it, it's worth finding one - I probably have a digital copy somewhere I can send you if needed. The manual has a full and complete wiring diagram for both sides of the system in them. >> >> 73, >> >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul >> Sent: 16 June 2018 09:41 >> To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. >> >> Hi John, >> >> Thanks for your lengthy reply, I really appreciate it. Just to clarify one thing you think this is a late model Kenpro due to it having the switches and cap inside the casing attached above the positioning pot? >> >> I tested the motor last night using the KR400 controller, wiring seems standard on pins 4,5 and 6 so I gave it a couple of briefs bursts to see if it turned, it didn't! Well not initially then all appeared OK, on closer inspection I discovered that the motor itself has some form of brake or stop inside. While it's free to be turned manually in the same direction it was last powered it will not turn in the opposite direction until power is applied to move it that way. At first I thought it was jammed or broken but it appears to be normal operation as the rotation is quite free with no nasty feeling rough spots. >> >> The limit switches surprised me as well. I come from a satellite background where I'm used to a limit switch killing power to an actuator, if I press one of these it switches the motor into the opposite direction, is that right? >> >> Now I know the motor is free to move I've purchased new bearings and will source some suitable grease, primer and paint. The case has become quite pitted inside where the water was laying but it's now all clean after wire brushing and rubbing down. Externally it's in very good condition even where I hit each point with the gas gun to get the bolts out. It goes without saying they'll all be replaced with stainless socket head bolts. >> >> 73 >> Paul >> G7PUV >> >> >>> On 15/06/2018 09:13, John wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 >>> (the KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. >>> >>> As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit >>> switch mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or >>> secondly pull the start capacitor from the controller and use the >>> rotor limit switches and capacitor. As far as I can tell from the >>> in-depth dismantling I've done of a couple of these, either should >>> work, but having both would effectively render the limit switches >>> redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc further down the line. >>> >>> What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the >>> wiring config on the back of the screw block - this will have an >>> effect on what you do later. There was some weird wiring in one of >>> the rotor units I bought, and it ended up with pins being shorted >>> together inside the connector block and made everything weird. I made >>> the decision with that one to return it to 'A' spec as I couldn't be >>> sure what else had been done. If yours is similar that's the approach I would take. >>> >>> If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and >>> sane, and matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit >>> switches installed, as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical >>> stop, and if you hit that and don't realise, but keep sending current >>> up the cable, you'll inevitably burn out your motor windings after a while. >>> Not such a fun job to fix (dismantling the motor housing is at least >>> an hour's work on its own), although easy enough to do with patience. >>> >>> Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! >>> >>> 73, and a firm left handshake, >>> John (2E0XLX) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul >>> Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. >>> >>> Hi all >>> I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. >>> The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but >>> was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector >>> block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden >>> so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip >>> it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite >>> a fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. >>> >>> Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor >>> I actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is >>> stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. >>> >>> The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I >>> assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place >>> to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? >>> >>> Paul G7PUV >>> Sussex Coast. JO00 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > > -- > Paul > Sussex Coast. JO00 > > Icom IC-R8500, Airspy & RTL 820 SDR. > HS Publications D100 TV-DX receiver. > Sony XDR F1HD and XDR-GTK interface. > Sony 920, RDS Spy, CCW Multicoupler. > W4KMA 24-100MHz custom Log Periodic. > Wellbrook ALA1530AL1 active HF loop. > Triax MTH-13 BIII, Korner 15ele BII. > 1.8M Precision dish, C-Band 66E-58W. > 1.2M Gibertini dish, KuBand 70E-63W. > 2.4M FortecStar dish C-Band 49E-58W. > > http://www.ukdx.org.uk > www.youtube.com/Aceblaggard > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:23:27 -0700 > From: "Rick Tejera" > To: , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue > Message-ID: <002e01d405d1$6a4b23c0$3ee16b40$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Umesh and everyone else who offered suggestions, All is well, it looks like it was a corrupted file. > > I reinstalled and then copied my know good files from my desktop into the laptop files and everything works. YEAH! > > Thanks again, hope to work you on field day. > > Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) > Saguaro Astronomy Club > www.saguaroastro.org > Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club > www.W7TBC.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:14 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue > > Hi Rick, > Been there done that, so may I suggest a couple of things to reduce your work and speed things up... > So, do as Alan has said, then sort the SatPC32_DataBackup folder by Date Descending. You should see only a few files/folders would have recent timestamps. Only focus those files/folders, this will save you lot of time and frustration. Also before copying over the newer files (one buy one), rename the original files as .ORIG, or .SAVE, so you can bounce back quickly from any problematic file. > > Just a thought, hope it helps. > > > 73!UmeshK6VUG > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:04:39 -0500 > From: "Alan" > To: "'Richard Tejera'" , "'AMSAT'" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue > Message-ID: <000a01d404a1$0a12d880$1e388980$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Try running the new version without reinstalling your old data. If that works, you can incrementally restore the old data manually and find the problem. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > > wrote: > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:21:26 -0400 > From: Lee McLamb > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > Message-ID: <300cded2-a32c-099b-b4dc-25d74cbd29d2 at cfl.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE > ANS-168 > > The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- > mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite > Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space > including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur > Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, > launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio > satellites. > > The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur > Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. > > Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: > ans-editor at amsat.org. > > In this edition: > > * AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites > * CAMSAT Details on Three Satellites and an HF Transponder > * 3A Monaco Activation on FM Satellites in July > * ARISS Ham Video Transmitter Aboard ISS Defective > * Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors > > SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-168.01 > ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > > AMSAT News Service Bulletin 168.01 > ?From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. > DATE June 17, 2018 > To All RADIO AMATEURS > BID: $ANS-168.01 > > > AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites > > It?s that time of year again; summer and Field Day! Each year the > American Radio Relay League (ARRL) sponsors Field Day as a ?picnic, > a campout, practice for emergencies, an informal contest and, most > of all, FUN!? > > The event takes place during a 23-hour period on the fourth weekend > of June. For 2018 the event takes place during a 27-hour period from > 1800 UTC on Saturday, June 23, 2018 through 2100 UTC on Sunday, > June 24, 2018. > > Those who set up prior to 1800 UTC on June 23 can operate only 24 > hours. The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) promotes > its own version of Field Day for operation via the amateur sat- > ellites, held concurrently with the ARRL event. > > This year should be easier than many years since we have more than > 10 transponders and repeaters available. Users should check the > AMSAT status page at http://www.amsat.org/status/ and the pages > at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177 for what is available in > the weeks leading up to field day. > > To reduce the amount of time to research each satellite, see the > current FM satellite table at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5012 > and the current linear satellite table at > http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5033 > > If you are considering ONLY the FM voice satellites, there are > SO-50, AO-85, AO-91, and AO-92. It might be easier this year to > make that one FM contact for the ARRL bonus points with so many > FM birds. The congestion on FM LEO satellites is always so intense > that we must continue to limit their use to one-QSO-per-FM-satellite. > This includes the International Space Station. You will be allowed > one QSO if the ISS is operating Voice. > > AO-92 may be in L/v for the first part of the event, depending on > command station availability. Keep an eye on @AMSAT on Twitter for > expected L/v mode change times. > > The full set of rules are posted at: > https://www.amsat.org/field-day/ > > [ANS thanks AMSAT Director Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, > ? for the above information] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > CAMSAT Details on Three Satellites and an HF Transponder > > CAMSAT, China?s Amateur Radio Satellite organization, has offered > additional details about the three Amateur Radio satellites it > plans to launch later this year. Two of the satellites, designated > CAS-5A and CAS-6, will carry transponders, and one of them will > offer HF capability. CAMSAT?s Alan Kung, BA1DU, told ARRL that > the 6U CAS-5A will carry two HF transponders and two V/UHF trans- > ponders. The plentiful equipment package includes an H/T (21/29 MHz) > mode linear transponder, an H/U (21/435 MHz) mode linear transponder, > ?an HF CW telemetry beacon, a V/U linear transponder, a V/U FM trans- > ?ponder, a UHF CW telemetry beacon, and UHF AX.25 4.8k/9.6k baud GMSK > ?telemetry. > > + The H/T mode linear transponder will have a 30 kHz wide uplink centered > ? on 21.400 MHz, and a downlink centered on 29.490 MHz. RF output is > 0.5 W. > > + An HF CW telemetry beacon will transmit on 29.465 MHz with 0.1 W. > > + The H/U mode linear transponder will have a 15 kHz wide uplink centered > ? on 21.435 MHz, and a downlink centered on 435.505 MHz. The RF output is > ? 0.5 W. > > + The V/U mode linear transponder will have a 30 kHz wide uplink at > ? 145.820 MHz, and a downlink at 435.540 MHz. The RF output is 0.5 W. > > + The V/U mode FM transponder will uplink at 145.925 MHz, and downlink > ? at 435.600 MHz. The transponder passband is 15 kHz, and the RF output > ? is 0.5 W. > > + The UHF CW telemetry beacon will transmit on 435.570 MHz, with an RF > ? output of 0.1 W. > > + UHF AX.25 4.8k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry will transmit on 435.650 MHz > ? at 0.5 W. > > Kung told ARRL that the HF, VHF, and UHF antennas are quarter-wave > monopoles. > > A satellite within a satellite, the tiny CAS-5B, weighing 0.5 kilogram, > will be deployed from CAS-5A in orbit. It will carry a UHF CW beacon on > an Amateur Radio frequency. Both CAS-5A and CAS-5B will be placed into > 539 ? 533 kilometer, 97.5? orbits. They will launch from the Jiuquan > Satellite Launch Center in late September. > > The 50-kilogram CAS-6 microsat will include a VHF CW telemetry beacon, > a U/V mode 20 kHz linear Amateur Radio transponder, and AX.25 4.8k baud > GMSK telemetry. It will also carry an atmospheric wind detector and > other systems that will operate on non-amateur frequencies. > > A launch at sea on an as-yet undetermined date is planned for CAS-6 > from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology. The microsat will > be placed into a 579 ? 579 kilometer, 45? orbit. > > [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > 3A Monaco Activation on FM Satellites in July > > F4DXV plans FM satellite operation from 3A Monaco (JN33) on > Monday 02 July ~08:30z to 13z only during a quick break from > his trip to Italy. Jerome says, "Due to a bad horizon (mountains, > buildings), I could be only QRV for EU on high FM orbits." > > [ANS thanks Daily DX for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ARISS Ham Video Transmitter Aboard ISS Defective > > Gaston Bertels, ON4WF has provided an update regarding the condition > of the ARISS HamTV system aboard the ISS. > > In mid-April, the Ham Video transmitter on board the Columbus module > of the ISS stopped working. Extensive testing was performed by the > crew on June 1, 2018 which comprised connecting the transmitter to > the second ARISS L/S-band patch antenna on the nadir of Columbus. > The test was negative. Ground stations did not receive any signal > from Ham Video. > > Since on-board repair is impossible ARISS is planning to return the > transmitter to Earth. Bertels wrote, "We hope this plan will be accepted > by the space agencies and the cost of operations funded by sponsors. > Schools and crew members performing educational ARISS school contacts are > delighted to use Ham Video. We will do the best we can to restart this > service as soon as possible. We will keep you informed on progress." > > Additional information about the HamTV project can be found on-line at: > https://www.amsat-on.be/ > > [ANS thanks Gaston Bertels, ON4WF and ARISS HamTV for the above > information] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors > > The AMSAT News Service (ANS) is seeking volunteers to serve as > rotating editors for its weekly newsletter. > > Editors work on a rotating schedule, each taking a different turn > editing a specific week's newsletter as scheduled by the ANS Editor > in Chief. Editors support each other by seeking and reporting to the > Editor of the week, information and resources of interest to the > AMSAT community. The number of newsletters assigned will be dependent > upon the number of available editors at any given time. The average > editor can expect to spend, on average, 4-5 hours for each newsletter, > dependent on available material. Prospective editors are required to > be AMSAT members in good standing and have a genuine interest in > satellite operation and an understanding of AMSAT's mission. Former > editing experience is a plus but not required. > > If interested, please submit an inquiry, including your contact > information to ans-editor at amsat.com. > > [ANS thanks the ANS editors for the above information] > > > /EX > > In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the > President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining > donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- > tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT > Office. > > Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership > at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students > enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- > dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. > Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership > information. > > 73, > This week's ANS Editor, > Lee McLamb, KT4TZ > kt4tz at amsat dot org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:49:53 +0800 (CST) > From: ??? > To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for Next Week > Message-ID: <4ea1d43a.12c9.1640b6f3011.Coremail.wmc_jx at 163.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK > > Hi OMs, > > > The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: > > > 19 Jun 08:25 UTC to 19 Jun 10:25 UTC > 22 Jun 21:00 UTC to 22 Jun 23:00 UTC > 23 Jun 11:00 UTC to 23 Jun 13:00 UTC > 23 Jun 22:00 UTC to 24 Jun 00:00 UTC > 24 Jun 12:00 UTC to 24 Jun 14:00 UTC > > > VY TNX & 73! > > > Wei > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:51:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method > Message-ID: <592178937.1509740.1529200290366 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi, > I can't believe I'm jumping on a discussion by THE experts - Bob, Patrick and others. > > I must confess that I have sometimes used MHEARD to ACK several callsigns all at once, with very limited success. Since this was an impromptu approach, the other stations had no idea that I was trying to save air time.? ( sorry the idea using a beacon as a CQ/ACK never occurred but is quite interesting ) > > Secondly, I have used UISS with ACK enabled only because I had a non-optimal TX antenna and wanted a "physical layer ACK", to ensure my packets were being heard at the bird.? The good thing is that once I got this, I was essentially off the air waiting for a response to my CQ or QSO ACK.?? I did however set the path to satellite callsign only.? > > Thirdly, I'll be using a portable setup with laptop et al - SatPC32, SDRsharp (as RX), IC7000 (as TX), and a logging program.? > > Lastly, this is my AHHA moment - now I know how I get QSO ACKs from Patrick so fast, while I have to struggle with UISS screen to send my QSO ACK. > Most enlightening discussion !? > > > 73!? > Umesh, K6VUG > > > ------------------------------ > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 00:05:46 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ryan Noguchi > To: AMSAT > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method > Message-ID: <2021625973.717858.1529193946171 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> I am not sure your approach would meet the definition of a >> complete QSO. Station A makes a general CQ call, and station>B would simply list your call as a QSL in the status text. >> Then how does station A acknowledge station B's QSL - adding >> B's call sign to the status text from A? > > Yes, that's correct. The CONOPS that Bob WB4APR has outlined is sufficient to qualify as a QSO. Both parties have sent their call and exchange, received same from the other party, and have mutually acknowledged receipt. Both A and B are calling CQ in each beacon they transmit. They simply append the calls of the stations they are "answering" at the same time that they call CQ themselves.? > > The elegance of the concept is that all communications are beacons--with everyone calling CQ and answering other CQers at the same time--rather than point-to-point messages. It's a very efficient use of the limited resource.?I like the idea in principle. > >> Add in the time of having to edit the status text on the?>APRS-ready radios, and it gets messy fast. > > This is my second biggest concern with the concept, especially for those of us who will not be at a computer terminal. I tend to agree that this may be cumbersome to implement on just an HT, but I'll try it out to see how it compares.? > > What I think is a more fatal flaw is that this just isn't the way we do things the other 363 days of the year. It isn't just a matter of "saying something different" on Field Day. This is a fundamentally different way to make QSOs than we do on packet satellites every other day but Field Day, which is not a recipe for success. It's a classic game theory problem. If I'm the only one following this protocol, I won't be making any QSOs.? > > Has anyone in recent history successfully made an APRS Field Day QSO in the manner that Bob describes? > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > ------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 23:01:15 -0400 > From: > To: , > Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Tehnicka skola > Zajecar, Zajecar, Serbia > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Tehnicka skola Zajecar, Zajecar, Serbia on 19 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 14:20 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between YU1ACR and OR4ISS. The contact should be audible over Serbia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. > > > > > > Technical school from Zaje?ar is a secondary vocational school in Eastern Serbia. The school includes educational profiles in the fields of electrical engineering, transport, mechanical engineering and information technology. For years, the school has been involved in various reform projects secondary vocational education, which resulted in the introduction of new experimental educational profiles mechatronics and information technologies. > > > > An important segment in the school is non-formal education and work in the sections. In the field of robotics, our students record excellent results at national competitions. In 2017, the school launched a state-level "ARDUINO KUP" competition where students displayed their skills in the field of microcontrollers. The competition was organized in 2018, and we hope that the competition will soon take on an international character. > > > > > > > > Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: > > > > 1. Do you play any sport on the ISS? > > 2. How much do you sleep? > > 3. How many days you can spend on the ISS in a row? > > 4. How do you feel when you return from ISS to the Earth? > > 5. Does everyone sleep at the same time? > > 6. Do you eat only prepared food or you can cook something? > > 7. How often are you in contact with your family on Earth? > > 8. What was your most interesting experience on ISS? > > 9. Can you have any allergic reactions on ISS? > > 10. How to go to the toilet on ISS? > > 11. How many work hours do you have a day? > > 12. Did you ever get sick during your stay at the ISS? > > 13. Are you sweating during your stay at the ISS? > > 14. What fun activities do you do in space? > > 15. Do you wear ordinary or special clothes? > > 16. What is the experience when during the spacewalk? > > 17. What do you miss the most during your stay at the ISS? > > 18. Does the ISS make noise? > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: > > > > Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the > > International Space Station (ARISS). > > > > To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status > > > > > > Next planned event(s): > > > > TBD > > > > About ARISS: > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more > informa > tion, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. > > > > Thank you & 73, > > David - AA4KN > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 02:04:39 -0400 > From: "Eric Rosenberg" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Angle Linear BT2N Bias Tees > Message-ID: <006d01d40601$143e05d0$3cba1170$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Never used commercial grade high performance bias tees. > > > > $75.00 plus shipping from 20015. > > > > PayPal accepted > > > > 73, > > Eric W3DQ > > Washington, DC > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:42:53 -0500 > From: "Dave Tipton, W5DMT" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question > Message-ID: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go > into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me in > the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. > > > > To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. > > > > Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, > and it was the same. > > > > What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but > that didn't seem to change anything either. > > > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > Dave Tipton, W5DMT > > > > (615) 689-0685 > > dave at w5dmt.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:47:36 -0700 > From: Frank > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, dave at w5dmt.com > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question > Message-ID: <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9 at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dave, > > You will need to set your grid in either the HRD Logbook or DM780 > terminal programs.? Your grid is set under the "My Station" section.? Go > to "Tools" pull down menu bar in DM780 select "My Station" or in Logbook > go to "Tools" menu bar them "Configure" and then "My Station" > > 73, > Frank > K6FW > >> On 6/17/18 5:42 AM, Dave Tipton, W5DMT wrote: >> I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go >> into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me in >> the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. >> >> >> >> To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. >> >> >> >> Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, >> and it was the same. >> >> >> >> What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but >> that didn't seem to change anything either. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >> >> Dave Tipton, W5DMT >> >> >> >> (615) 689-0685 >> >> dave at w5dmt.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 210 > ***************************************** From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jun 18 00:53:02 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:53:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 210 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I personally would like to stay and be wrapped at 9 PM not 530. For me some of the best Satellite passes will be in the early evening. Perhaps someone else in the club has a midsize battery we could add to be able to put three stations on the air 2 HF and one Satellite. I promise to call Irving Parks first thing in the morning to get an answer to the question about Friday night. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:47, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Another KR500 thread, maybe. (John) > 2. Re: SATPC32 reinstall issue (Rick Tejera) > 3. ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb) > 4. DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for Next Week (???) > 5. Re: APRS FD method (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) > 6. Upcoming ARISS contact with Tehnicka skola Zajecar, Zajecar, > Serbia (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) > 7. FS: Angle Linear BT2N Bias Tees (Eric Rosenberg) > 8. HRD Satellite Tracking Question (Dave Tipton, W5DMT) > 9. Re: HRD Satellite Tracking Question (Frank) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:17:51 +0100 > From: "John" > To: "'Paul'" , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > Message-ID: <01e901d405d0$a18b62b0$e4a22810$@amber.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Paul, > > If your controller doesn't have a DIN socket on the back, then your best bet is to look at the ERC units - the ERC-M interface will talk to azimuth and elevation simultaneously, either on one or two separate connections, and they also sell "rotor cards" which you can install inside your controller, effectively adding an interface to a controller which lacks one. The rotor cards are basically boards with a bunch of relays addressable by the main ERC-M unit. > > You can find it all on www.easy-rotor-control.com and the best bit about the ERC-M is that it will talk GS232B protocol to a PC, meaning any app that can talk GS232B can address it (including all the popular satellite software). There is also a dedicated rotor control app that ERC produce which is capable of control and readout. > > 73, > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul > Sent: 16 June 2018 19:48 > To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. > > Just a quick update, I took the controller capacitor out of line and now the limit switches behave as expected so that's good news. Having cleaned everything I put it back together without grease for the time being with 20 of the best condition bearings in one end and am pleased to say everything works perfectly using the old controller. > > The new stainless bearings, M6 bolts for the casing and M8 bolts for the bracket have been ordered so hopefully it won't be too long before my ?1 elevation rotator is brought into service. I've downloaded a few manuals now so can match up what I have motor and controller wise. > > Just being lazy for the moment and to save me searching is there a PC interface available for the 5600 motor and old style Kenpro KR-400 (my azimuth rotator), one that has a stand alone programme to operate them? > > Thanks again for your help with this little project John. > > 73 > Paul > G7PUV > >> On 16/06/2018 15:06, John wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> Yes, I'm 99% sure it's the elevation unit side of a late model >> KR5600B. I would not recommend running it with both capacitors inline, >> as the capacitors are effectively used as a timing device to ensure >> the motor spins in the correct direction. The capacitance delays the >> current hitting the second set of coils long enough to make the motor >> spin which allows it to drive the rest of the system. Sending current >> up both sides at once (due to your capacitor in the controller) will >> confuse things somewhat >> >> The motor auto-reversing is possibly a symptom of this extra capacitor in the wrong place, though since I had weird wiring in my rotor unit which I needed to pull out, I can't verify that from experience. Pull the capacitor wires from your controller and see if you get the same behaviour or not! >> >> The disc brake is between the gear on the motor shaft, and the motor housing, and is usually a cork disc. It adds enough friction to 'brake' the motor, but when you energise the coils, the motor shaft physically lifts away from the brake disc. You'll see, if you give the shaft a gentle pull, that it almost lifts away from the motor unit - this is the brake release mechanism. >> >> The main thing to remember is that you're working with AC motors here, which run at around 26-28V. >> >> As an aside, if you don't have the manual for it, it's worth finding one - I probably have a digital copy somewhere I can send you if needed. The manual has a full and complete wiring diagram for both sides of the system in them. >> >> 73, >> >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul >> Sent: 16 June 2018 09:41 >> To: John ; amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. >> >> Hi John, >> >> Thanks for your lengthy reply, I really appreciate it. Just to clarify one thing you think this is a late model Kenpro due to it having the switches and cap inside the casing attached above the positioning pot? >> >> I tested the motor last night using the KR400 controller, wiring seems standard on pins 4,5 and 6 so I gave it a couple of briefs bursts to see if it turned, it didn't! Well not initially then all appeared OK, on closer inspection I discovered that the motor itself has some form of brake or stop inside. While it's free to be turned manually in the same direction it was last powered it will not turn in the opposite direction until power is applied to move it that way. At first I thought it was jammed or broken but it appears to be normal operation as the rotation is quite free with no nasty feeling rough spots. >> >> The limit switches surprised me as well. I come from a satellite background where I'm used to a limit switch killing power to an actuator, if I press one of these it switches the motor into the opposite direction, is that right? >> >> Now I know the motor is free to move I've purchased new bearings and will source some suitable grease, primer and paint. The case has become quite pitted inside where the water was laying but it's now all clean after wire brushing and rubbing down. Externally it's in very good condition even where I hit each point with the gas gun to get the bolts out. It goes without saying they'll all be replaced with stainless socket head bolts. >> >> 73 >> Paul >> G7PUV >> >> >>> On 15/06/2018 09:13, John wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> It's a Model B KR500 I would say. The very last version of the KR5600 >>> (the KR5600B set) had limit switches and capacitors inside the motors. >>> >>> As for how to proceed, you have two options. Firstly pull the limit >>> switch mechanism out and rely on the controller's start capacitor, or >>> secondly pull the start capacitor from the controller and use the >>> rotor limit switches and capacitor. As far as I can tell from the >>> in-depth dismantling I've done of a couple of these, either should >>> work, but having both would effectively render the limit switches >>> redundant, and probably play some kind of havoc further down the line. >>> >>> What I'd recommend personally is that you start by checking the >>> wiring config on the back of the screw block - this will have an >>> effect on what you do later. There was some weird wiring in one of >>> the rotor units I bought, and it ended up with pins being shorted >>> together inside the connector block and made everything weird. I made >>> the decision with that one to return it to 'A' spec as I couldn't be >>> sure what else had been done. If yours is similar that's the approach I would take. >>> >>> If, however, the inside wiring on the motor unit is sensible and >>> sane, and matches spec, then I'd probably go for keeping the limit >>> switches installed, as otherwise your only limiting is a mechanical >>> stop, and if you hit that and don't realise, but keep sending current >>> up the cable, you'll inevitably burn out your motor windings after a while. >>> Not such a fun job to fix (dismantling the motor housing is at least >>> an hour's work on its own), although easy enough to do with patience. >>> >>> Feel free to ping me off list if you want to chat about it further! >>> >>> 73, and a firm left handshake, >>> John (2E0XLX) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul >>> Sent: 14 June 2018 18:18 >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Another KR500 thread, maybe. >>> >>> Hi all >>> I recently won a Kenpro KR500 rotor on Ebay for the princely sum of a quid. >>> The alleged history was it was purchased, had antennas attached but >>> was never wired or used and this I can believe because the connector >>> block looks untouched. It was however left on its side in the garden >>> so looks pristine but has suffered water ingress. I started to strip >>> it down today and of course the eight M6 Phillips heads put up quite >>> a fight but I attacked it with fire and it is now apart. >>> >>> Having opened it up I'm now slightly confused as to what model rotor >>> I actually have. It has the eight screw terminal block, the casing is >>> stamped Kenpro but internally it has the limit switches and a capacitor. >>> >>> The controller I intend using is an old Kenpro KR400 model and I >>> assume has the 70uF cap across the switches. Do I leave this in place >>> to use it with my rotor or should I remove it, or remove the cap in the rotor? >>> >>> Paul G7PUV >>> Sussex Coast. JO00 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > > -- > Paul > Sussex Coast. JO00 > > Icom IC-R8500, Airspy & RTL 820 SDR. > HS Publications D100 TV-DX receiver. > Sony XDR F1HD and XDR-GTK interface. > Sony 920, RDS Spy, CCW Multicoupler. > W4KMA 24-100MHz custom Log Periodic. > Wellbrook ALA1530AL1 active HF loop. > Triax MTH-13 BIII, Korner 15ele BII. > 1.8M Precision dish, C-Band 66E-58W. > 1.2M Gibertini dish, KuBand 70E-63W. > 2.4M FortecStar dish C-Band 49E-58W. > > http://www.ukdx.org.uk > www.youtube.com/Aceblaggard > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:23:27 -0700 > From: "Rick Tejera" > To: , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue > Message-ID: <002e01d405d1$6a4b23c0$3ee16b40$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Umesh and everyone else who offered suggestions, All is well, it looks like it was a corrupted file. > > I reinstalled and then copied my know good files from my desktop into the laptop files and everything works. YEAH! > > Thanks again, hope to work you on field day. > > Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) > Saguaro Astronomy Club > www.saguaroastro.org > Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club > www.W7TBC.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:14 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue > > Hi Rick, > Been there done that, so may I suggest a couple of things to reduce your work and speed things up... > So, do as Alan has said, then sort the SatPC32_DataBackup folder by Date Descending. You should see only a few files/folders would have recent timestamps. Only focus those files/folders, this will save you lot of time and frustration. Also before copying over the newer files (one buy one), rename the original files as .ORIG, or .SAVE, so you can bounce back quickly from any problematic file. > > Just a thought, hope it helps. > > > 73!UmeshK6VUG > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:04:39 -0500 > From: "Alan" > To: "'Richard Tejera'" , "'AMSAT'" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 reinstall issue > Message-ID: <000a01d404a1$0a12d880$1e388980$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Try running the new version without reinstalling your old data. If that works, you can incrementally restore the old data manually and find the problem. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > > wrote: > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:21:26 -0400 > From: Lee McLamb > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > Message-ID: <300cded2-a32c-099b-b4dc-25d74cbd29d2 at cfl.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE > ANS-168 > > The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- > mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite > Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space > including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur > Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, > launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio > satellites. > > The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur > Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. > > Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: > ans-editor at amsat.org. > > In this edition: > > * AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites > * CAMSAT Details on Three Satellites and an HF Transponder > * 3A Monaco Activation on FM Satellites in July > * ARISS Ham Video Transmitter Aboard ISS Defective > * Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors > > SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-168.01 > ANS-168 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > > AMSAT News Service Bulletin 168.01 > ?From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. > DATE June 17, 2018 > To All RADIO AMATEURS > BID: $ANS-168.01 > > > AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites > > It?s that time of year again; summer and Field Day! Each year the > American Radio Relay League (ARRL) sponsors Field Day as a ?picnic, > a campout, practice for emergencies, an informal contest and, most > of all, FUN!? > > The event takes place during a 23-hour period on the fourth weekend > of June. For 2018 the event takes place during a 27-hour period from > 1800 UTC on Saturday, June 23, 2018 through 2100 UTC on Sunday, > June 24, 2018. > > Those who set up prior to 1800 UTC on June 23 can operate only 24 > hours. The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) promotes > its own version of Field Day for operation via the amateur sat- > ellites, held concurrently with the ARRL event. > > This year should be easier than many years since we have more than > 10 transponders and repeaters available. Users should check the > AMSAT status page at http://www.amsat.org/status/ and the pages > at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177 for what is available in > the weeks leading up to field day. > > To reduce the amount of time to research each satellite, see the > current FM satellite table at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5012 > and the current linear satellite table at > http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5033 > > If you are considering ONLY the FM voice satellites, there are > SO-50, AO-85, AO-91, and AO-92. It might be easier this year to > make that one FM contact for the ARRL bonus points with so many > FM birds. The congestion on FM LEO satellites is always so intense > that we must continue to limit their use to one-QSO-per-FM-satellite. > This includes the International Space Station. You will be allowed > one QSO if the ISS is operating Voice. > > AO-92 may be in L/v for the first part of the event, depending on > command station availability. Keep an eye on @AMSAT on Twitter for > expected L/v mode change times. > > The full set of rules are posted at: > https://www.amsat.org/field-day/ > > [ANS thanks AMSAT Director Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, > ? for the above information] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > CAMSAT Details on Three Satellites and an HF Transponder > > CAMSAT, China?s Amateur Radio Satellite organization, has offered > additional details about the three Amateur Radio satellites it > plans to launch later this year. Two of the satellites, designated > CAS-5A and CAS-6, will carry transponders, and one of them will > offer HF capability. CAMSAT?s Alan Kung, BA1DU, told ARRL that > the 6U CAS-5A will carry two HF transponders and two V/UHF trans- > ponders. The plentiful equipment package includes an H/T (21/29 MHz) > mode linear transponder, an H/U (21/435 MHz) mode linear transponder, > ?an HF CW telemetry beacon, a V/U linear transponder, a V/U FM trans- > ?ponder, a UHF CW telemetry beacon, and UHF AX.25 4.8k/9.6k baud GMSK > ?telemetry. > > + The H/T mode linear transponder will have a 30 kHz wide uplink centered > ? on 21.400 MHz, and a downlink centered on 29.490 MHz. RF output is > 0.5 W. > > + An HF CW telemetry beacon will transmit on 29.465 MHz with 0.1 W. > > + The H/U mode linear transponder will have a 15 kHz wide uplink centered > ? on 21.435 MHz, and a downlink centered on 435.505 MHz. The RF output is > ? 0.5 W. > > + The V/U mode linear transponder will have a 30 kHz wide uplink at > ? 145.820 MHz, and a downlink at 435.540 MHz. The RF output is 0.5 W. > > + The V/U mode FM transponder will uplink at 145.925 MHz, and downlink > ? at 435.600 MHz. The transponder passband is 15 kHz, and the RF output > ? is 0.5 W. > > + The UHF CW telemetry beacon will transmit on 435.570 MHz, with an RF > ? output of 0.1 W. > > + UHF AX.25 4.8k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry will transmit on 435.650 MHz > ? at 0.5 W. > > Kung told ARRL that the HF, VHF, and UHF antennas are quarter-wave > monopoles. > > A satellite within a satellite, the tiny CAS-5B, weighing 0.5 kilogram, > will be deployed from CAS-5A in orbit. It will carry a UHF CW beacon on > an Amateur Radio frequency. Both CAS-5A and CAS-5B will be placed into > 539 ? 533 kilometer, 97.5? orbits. They will launch from the Jiuquan > Satellite Launch Center in late September. > > The 50-kilogram CAS-6 microsat will include a VHF CW telemetry beacon, > a U/V mode 20 kHz linear Amateur Radio transponder, and AX.25 4.8k baud > GMSK telemetry. It will also carry an atmospheric wind detector and > other systems that will operate on non-amateur frequencies. > > A launch at sea on an as-yet undetermined date is planned for CAS-6 > from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology. The microsat will > be placed into a 579 ? 579 kilometer, 45? orbit. > > [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > 3A Monaco Activation on FM Satellites in July > > F4DXV plans FM satellite operation from 3A Monaco (JN33) on > Monday 02 July ~08:30z to 13z only during a quick break from > his trip to Italy. Jerome says, "Due to a bad horizon (mountains, > buildings), I could be only QRV for EU on high FM orbits." > > [ANS thanks Daily DX for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ARISS Ham Video Transmitter Aboard ISS Defective > > Gaston Bertels, ON4WF has provided an update regarding the condition > of the ARISS HamTV system aboard the ISS. > > In mid-April, the Ham Video transmitter on board the Columbus module > of the ISS stopped working. Extensive testing was performed by the > crew on June 1, 2018 which comprised connecting the transmitter to > the second ARISS L/S-band patch antenna on the nadir of Columbus. > The test was negative. Ground stations did not receive any signal > from Ham Video. > > Since on-board repair is impossible ARISS is planning to return the > transmitter to Earth. Bertels wrote, "We hope this plan will be accepted > by the space agencies and the cost of operations funded by sponsors. > Schools and crew members performing educational ARISS school contacts are > delighted to use Ham Video. We will do the best we can to restart this > service as soon as possible. We will keep you informed on progress." > > Additional information about the HamTV project can be found on-line at: > https://www.amsat-on.be/ > > [ANS thanks Gaston Bertels, ON4WF and ARISS HamTV for the above > information] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors > > The AMSAT News Service (ANS) is seeking volunteers to serve as > rotating editors for its weekly newsletter. > > Editors work on a rotating schedule, each taking a different turn > editing a specific week's newsletter as scheduled by the ANS Editor > in Chief. Editors support each other by seeking and reporting to the > Editor of the week, information and resources of interest to the > AMSAT community. The number of newsletters assigned will be dependent > upon the number of available editors at any given time. The average > editor can expect to spend, on average, 4-5 hours for each newsletter, > dependent on available material. Prospective editors are required to > be AMSAT members in good standing and have a genuine interest in > satellite operation and an understanding of AMSAT's mission. Former > editing experience is a plus but not required. > > If interested, please submit an inquiry, including your contact > information to ans-editor at amsat.com. > > [ANS thanks the ANS editors for the above information] > > > /EX > > In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the > President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining > donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- > tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT > Office. > > Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership > at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students > enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- > dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. > Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership > information. > > 73, > This week's ANS Editor, > Lee McLamb, KT4TZ > kt4tz at amsat dot org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:49:53 +0800 (CST) > From: ??? > To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for Next Week > Message-ID: <4ea1d43a.12c9.1640b6f3011.Coremail.wmc_jx at 163.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK > > Hi OMs, > > > The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: > > > 19 Jun 08:25 UTC to 19 Jun 10:25 UTC > 22 Jun 21:00 UTC to 22 Jun 23:00 UTC > 23 Jun 11:00 UTC to 23 Jun 13:00 UTC > 23 Jun 22:00 UTC to 24 Jun 00:00 UTC > 24 Jun 12:00 UTC to 24 Jun 14:00 UTC > > > VY TNX & 73! > > > Wei > > > > -- > > WEI Mingchuan > > > Research Center of Satellite Technology > Harbin Institute of Technology > mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 > e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:51:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method > Message-ID: <592178937.1509740.1529200290366 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi, > I can't believe I'm jumping on a discussion by THE experts - Bob, Patrick and others. > > I must confess that I have sometimes used MHEARD to ACK several callsigns all at once, with very limited success. Since this was an impromptu approach, the other stations had no idea that I was trying to save air time.? ( sorry the idea using a beacon as a CQ/ACK never occurred but is quite interesting ) > > Secondly, I have used UISS with ACK enabled only because I had a non-optimal TX antenna and wanted a "physical layer ACK", to ensure my packets were being heard at the bird.? The good thing is that once I got this, I was essentially off the air waiting for a response to my CQ or QSO ACK.?? I did however set the path to satellite callsign only.? > > Thirdly, I'll be using a portable setup with laptop et al - SatPC32, SDRsharp (as RX), IC7000 (as TX), and a logging program.? > > Lastly, this is my AHHA moment - now I know how I get QSO ACKs from Patrick so fast, while I have to struggle with UISS screen to send my QSO ACK. > Most enlightening discussion !? > > > 73!? > Umesh, K6VUG > > > ------------------------------ > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 00:05:46 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ryan Noguchi > To: AMSAT > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS FD method > Message-ID: <2021625973.717858.1529193946171 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> I am not sure your approach would meet the definition of a >> complete QSO. Station A makes a general CQ call, and station>B would simply list your call as a QSL in the status text. >> Then how does station A acknowledge station B's QSL - adding >> B's call sign to the status text from A? > > Yes, that's correct. The CONOPS that Bob WB4APR has outlined is sufficient to qualify as a QSO. Both parties have sent their call and exchange, received same from the other party, and have mutually acknowledged receipt. Both A and B are calling CQ in each beacon they transmit. They simply append the calls of the stations they are "answering" at the same time that they call CQ themselves.? > > The elegance of the concept is that all communications are beacons--with everyone calling CQ and answering other CQers at the same time--rather than point-to-point messages. It's a very efficient use of the limited resource.?I like the idea in principle. > >> Add in the time of having to edit the status text on the?>APRS-ready radios, and it gets messy fast. > > This is my second biggest concern with the concept, especially for those of us who will not be at a computer terminal. I tend to agree that this may be cumbersome to implement on just an HT, but I'll try it out to see how it compares.? > > What I think is a more fatal flaw is that this just isn't the way we do things the other 363 days of the year. It isn't just a matter of "saying something different" on Field Day. This is a fundamentally different way to make QSOs than we do on packet satellites every other day but Field Day, which is not a recipe for success. It's a classic game theory problem. If I'm the only one following this protocol, I won't be making any QSOs.? > > Has anyone in recent history successfully made an APRS Field Day QSO in the manner that Bob describes? > > 73, Ryan AI6DO > > ------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 23:01:15 -0400 > From: > To: , > Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Tehnicka skola > Zajecar, Zajecar, Serbia > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Tehnicka skola Zajecar, Zajecar, Serbia on 19 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 14:20 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between YU1ACR and OR4ISS. The contact should be audible over Serbia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. > > > > > > Technical school from Zaje?ar is a secondary vocational school in Eastern Serbia. The school includes educational profiles in the fields of electrical engineering, transport, mechanical engineering and information technology. For years, the school has been involved in various reform projects secondary vocational education, which resulted in the introduction of new experimental educational profiles mechatronics and information technologies. > > > > An important segment in the school is non-formal education and work in the sections. In the field of robotics, our students record excellent results at national competitions. In 2017, the school launched a state-level "ARDUINO KUP" competition where students displayed their skills in the field of microcontrollers. The competition was organized in 2018, and we hope that the competition will soon take on an international character. > > > > > > > > Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: > > > > 1. Do you play any sport on the ISS? > > 2. How much do you sleep? > > 3. How many days you can spend on the ISS in a row? > > 4. How do you feel when you return from ISS to the Earth? > > 5. Does everyone sleep at the same time? > > 6. Do you eat only prepared food or you can cook something? > > 7. How often are you in contact with your family on Earth? > > 8. What was your most interesting experience on ISS? > > 9. Can you have any allergic reactions on ISS? > > 10. How to go to the toilet on ISS? > > 11. How many work hours do you have a day? > > 12. Did you ever get sick during your stay at the ISS? > > 13. Are you sweating during your stay at the ISS? > > 14. What fun activities do you do in space? > > 15. Do you wear ordinary or special clothes? > > 16. What is the experience when during the spacewalk? > > 17. What do you miss the most during your stay at the ISS? > > 18. Does the ISS make noise? > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: > > > > Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the > > International Space Station (ARISS). > > > > To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status > > > > > > Next planned event(s): > > > > TBD > > > > About ARISS: > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more > informa > tion, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. > > > > Thank you & 73, > > David - AA4KN > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 02:04:39 -0400 > From: "Eric Rosenberg" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Angle Linear BT2N Bias Tees > Message-ID: <006d01d40601$143e05d0$3cba1170$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Never used commercial grade high performance bias tees. > > > > $75.00 plus shipping from 20015. > > > > PayPal accepted > > > > 73, > > Eric W3DQ > > Washington, DC > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:42:53 -0500 > From: "Dave Tipton, W5DMT" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question > Message-ID: <024c01d40638$b62c2a70$22847f50$@w5dmt.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go > into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me in > the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. > > > > To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. > > > > Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, > and it was the same. > > > > What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but > that didn't seem to change anything either. > > > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > Dave Tipton, W5DMT > > > > (615) 689-0685 > > dave at w5dmt.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:47:36 -0700 > From: Frank > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, dave at w5dmt.com > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking Question > Message-ID: <795333e0-9f4e-2916-7ff6-c04275ea27f9 at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dave, > > You will need to set your grid in either the HRD Logbook or DM780 > terminal programs.? Your grid is set under the "My Station" section.? Go > to "Tools" pull down menu bar in DM780 select "My Station" or in Logbook > go to "Tools" menu bar them "Configure" and then "My Station" > > 73, > Frank > K6FW > >> On 6/17/18 5:42 AM, Dave Tipton, W5DMT wrote: >> I was trying to setup HRD last night, and the strangest thing. When I go >> into options, to put in my grid square, it is grayed out. It shows me in >> the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of West Africa. >> >> >> >> To make it even stranger, it says (grayed out again) that I'm in EM65. >> >> >> >> Loaded it on the laptop we're planning to use for field day next weekend, >> and it was the same. >> >> >> >> What am I missing here? I did set up myself in the observers section, but >> that didn't seem to change anything either. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >> >> Dave Tipton, W5DMT >> >> >> >> (615) 689-0685 >> >> dave at w5dmt.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 210 > ***************************************** From kb2ysi at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 01:00:40 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:00:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <9B73C592-6DF4-450D-A1AA-564EED505B53@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> <93843c36-8561-7f16-36c6-5fab1f9ab6a3@gmail.com> <9B73C592-6DF4-450D-A1AA-564EED505B53@gmail.com> Message-ID: My first thought would be to make sure the radios are hooked to the correct port and the common it going to the Elk. Simple I know, but I have hooked up my Arrow setup backwards a few times. It is amazing how poor a 70cm antenna is for receiving 2m signals. After that, I would look to others that have Elks and use 2 radios for suggestions. 73, Don KB2YSI On Sun, Jun 17, 2018, 16:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > Just tried trusty AO-91 and heard nothing through the duplexer. After it > reached max peak I disconnected my D74, which was doing the receiving, from > the duplexer and connected it directly to my Elk antenna. Right away I > heard people talking. I then tried keeping the antenna on the bird where I > heard audio and switching back to the duplexer and heard nothing. Not sure > what is wrong. I need to find someone to test with on the ground. I?ll do > more tests with another radio. Just need to get my third radio from another > location. I tested on a 440 repeater and sending/receiving to duplex to > myself. Need to test with another person who is more distant > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > On Jun 17, 2018, at 11:13, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > > Received the duplexer yesterday. Unfortunately I didn't even think to get > patch cables for it. I have SMA to SO-239 cables for my handhelds but the > duplexer is also SO-239. Luckily my local electronics store had some RG8X > SO-259 patch cables. > > So far no luck. I tested it on a couple passes last night but did not hear > myself yet. I was not in a good spot though. I tested it on AO-92 on the > last past around 1730Z but had a hard time hearing anyone until right > before the LOS, I then heard something for a second as I was moving around > my elk. I thought I would have heard the bird since I was on a hill with no > obstructions to the bird. The only difference being I had the duplexer > connected. I'll test it out more today. I made sure the duplexer works by > transmitting on the frequencies allowed on each port of the MFJ (VHF/UHF) > and was able to hear myself on another radio. It is such a hassle now > carrying two radios and two cables coming out of the duplexor and putting > one radio in my pocket. LOL. Luckily the D74 supports bluetooth so I will > use that to eliminate an additional cable that gets tangled, so that I can > hear. I just attached the MFJ duplexer to the handle of my Elk antenna to > free up my hand temporarily to see how that works. I hope it won't > interfere with the SWR. I attached a picture > > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > On 6/8/18 6:34 AM, Rolf Krogstad wrote: > > MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer). The model number is MFJ-916B. > There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. > > There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), > comparing different models. > > 73 > Rolf NR0T > EN34it > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > >> What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and >> then the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use. I found it >> easier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup. >> >> 73, Don KB2YSI >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >> >> > Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a >> > way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two >> > handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to >> filter >> > the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try >> to >> > lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to >> > receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the >> > times i?m by myself. >> > >> > ? >> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> > > > > From kb2ysi at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 01:08:16 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:08:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsatdroid/SATPC32 mismatch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If I remember correctly, you can set your grid square or get it from GPS in the options/preferences of AmsatDroid. I would check them out to see if it got set via the manual method. I would suggest trying ISS Detector on Android, I have removed virtually all of the other tracker applications from my phone. 73, Don KB2YSI On Sun, Jun 17, 2018, 15:09 Mark D. Johns wrote: > Kirk, > > Not familiar with the Android program, as I'm an iOS guy, but double check > your latitude and longitude in SatPC32 and make sure that the longitude is > entered with a minus sign in front of it for western hemisphere. You should > see the little white + over Minnesota. FWIW, the next AO-92 pass for us > begins at 02:09z (21:09 local). I don't believe either of the times you got > was correct for the last one (AOS at 17:05z by my reckoning). Give me a > call if I can be of help. > -- > Mark D. Johns > K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ > Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM Kirk P wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Newbie questions: > > > > > > Have SATPC32 running on desktop, Amsatdroid on Android phone. > > > > > > Dl same KEPS, Using EXACT same GPS coordinates but AMSATDROID has passes > > up to an hour off of SATPC32 depending on bird. > > > > > > Example: AO-92 next pass SATPC states 17:57 AOS w/Max EL of 27 deg. > > > > AMSATDROID: States 16:28 AOS w/Max El of 20.5 deg > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kirk N0KK > > > > > > Sent from Outlook > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From hugois at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 20:50:18 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 13:50:18 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 In-Reply-To: <93843c36-8561-7f16-36c6-5fab1f9ab6a3@gmail.com> References: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@gmail.com> <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@mindspring.com> <00C95211-D98E-4656-A393-D425DA744CF2@gmail.com> <34F0B701-0073-4167-BFAE-4856D91E2916@gmail.com> <650C77AC-8EEF-4ED9-BF4A-E4B4E2327F37@gmail.com> <9BAF1C77-0E15-4253-B83B-FBEF705CE610@gmail.com> <93843c36-8561-7f16-36c6-5fab1f9ab6a3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9B73C592-6DF4-450D-A1AA-564EED505B53@gmail.com> Just tried trusty AO-91 and heard nothing through the duplexer. After it reached max peak I disconnected my D74, which was doing the receiving, from the duplexer and connected it directly to my Elk antenna. Right away I heard people talking. I then tried keeping the antenna on the bird where I heard audio and switching back to the duplexer and heard nothing. Not sure what is wrong. I need to find someone to test with on the ground. I?ll do more tests with another radio. Just need to get my third radio from another location. I tested on a 440 repeater and sending/receiving to duplex to myself. Need to test with another person who is more distant ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jun 17, 2018, at 11:13, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > > Received the duplexer yesterday. Unfortunately I didn't even think to get patch cables for it. I have SMA to SO-239 cables for my handhelds but the duplexer is also SO-239. Luckily my local electronics store had some RG8X SO-259 patch cables. > So far no luck. I tested it on a couple passes last night but did not hear myself yet. I was not in a good spot though. I tested it on AO-92 on the last past around 1730Z but had a hard time hearing anyone until right before the LOS, I then heard something for a second as I was moving around my elk. I thought I would have heard the bird since I was on a hill with no obstructions to the bird. The only difference being I had the duplexer connected. I'll test it out more today. I made sure the duplexer works by transmitting on the frequencies allowed on each port of the MFJ (VHF/UHF) and was able to hear myself on another radio. It is such a hassle now carrying two radios and two cables coming out of the duplexor and putting one radio in my pocket. LOL. Luckily the D74 supports bluetooth so I will use that to eliminate an additional cable that gets tangled, so that I can hear. I just attached the MFJ duplexer to the handle of my Elk antenna to free up my hand temporarily to see how that works. I hope it won't interfere with the SWR. I attached a picture > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. >> On 6/8/18 6:34 AM, Rolf Krogstad wrote: >> MFJ sells a duplexer (aka Diplexer). The model number is MFJ-916B. >> There are other manufacturers also such as Comet and Diamond, etc. >> >> There was an article not long ago in the Amsat Journal, (or was it QST?), comparing different models. >> >> 73 >> Rolf NR0T >> EN34it >> >>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: >>> What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and >>> then the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use. I found it >>> easier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup. >>> >>> 73, Don KB2YSI >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: >>> >>> > Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a >>> > way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two >>> > handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to filter >>> > the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try to >>> > lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to >>> > receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the >>> > times i?m by myself. >>> > >>> > ? >>> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > > From andrewbnortham at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 00:51:52 2018 From: andrewbnortham at gmail.com (Andrew Northam) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:51:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] WMPLOTA 7/2 Michigan Rove Message-ID: Calling all WMPLOTA shoppers, big discounts on Michigan grids by KE8FZT, at the WMPLOTA encore event! You heard it on Ham Talk Live, July 2nd, World UFO Day and the Birthday of Walmart. EN74,EN84,EN75,EN85 are going quick, get them while they last! Now featuring the linear birds in a brand new VUCC circle!!! This is only a 24 hour sale, be there or be grid squared, July 2nd UTC! Tentative Schedule: The Encore: Sunday Night 1. EN74 Cadillac WM1432 7/2 0000z-0045z 2. EN74 Houghton Lake WM2014 0200z-0245z The Hangover: Monday Morning 3. EN74 West Branch WM5159 1200z-1230z 4. EN84 Tawas WM5376 1315z-1515z 5. EN85 Alpena WM2358 1630z-1830z 6. EN75 Gaylord WM1542 1950z-2040z 7. EN75 Petoskey WM2417 2120z-2210z 8. EN75 Cheboygan WM2100 2300z-2400z The After Party: Tuesday (A non-WMPLOTA event) -EN75 holiday style Individual passes will be determined as we get closer, more time will be spent in Tawas and Alpena, as there is only 1 WM in the grid. Follow me on twitter @andrewbnortham or http://twitter.com/andrewbnortham for up to the minute pass information, feel free to unfollow me on 7/3, DM to get on my hit list. I will try and work a minimum of 1 FM and 1 Linear bird from each location. AO 85/91/92, SO-50, FO-29, XW's, AO-7 and FalconSat-3 all planned. All the Walmarts in that regions, along with my campsite on 7/2 fall into a VUCC circle I am hoping to make a big dent in. If there is room on the birds, please work me. --Andrew/KE8FZT andrewbnortham at gmail.com http://twitter.com/andrewbnortham From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 18 03:40:06 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 03:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Reset SatPC32 window position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1765267992.1825937.1529293206067@mail.yahoo.com> In the file "SatPos.SQF" set first 2 lines to 100 and 100.? Worked for me.? This file is usually in the C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32 folder. 73!? Umesh? K6VUG? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:53:26 -0400 From: Thomas Schaefer To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Reset SatPC32 window position Message-ID: <4C1AC060-DCE1-46B1-9EDF-36ED3E22CD3D at ny4i.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii Does anyone know where the saved window position is kept for SatPC32? I ask as last time I used SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. SatPC32 was on the other monitor. It does not appear to detect that the system now has a single monitor and bring the window into the viewable area. When I run the program, it is starting on the second monitor and I need to reset its saved position. Thanks, Tom NY4I ********************** From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jun 18 04:02:50 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:02:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] distracted passengering Message-ID: <012a01d406b9$39d8e860$ad8ab920$@verizon.net> Apologies to the list, I was passenger in my car and replied, to what I though was a club email but I had clicked on the wrong message. Dogh!!!!! Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 18 04:05:24 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 04:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 212 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <924490214.1844240.1529294724125@mail.yahoo.com> WinAOS is great to list passes for a given date and Countd is good for field events with a laptop.? Both are part of both part of SatPC32. For hand held activity, I copy predictions form amsat.org into a spreadsheet. Then a macro filters the passes by max elevation and time of day and exports the result as an iCal file.? Finally, the iCal file is imported into my Google Calendar.? Its a little bit of work once a few month, but it conveniently pings me X minutes before the next pass and don't have to carry printed copies.? There have been other apps and suggestions but found these to be most convenient, after trying several other ones.? 73!? Umesh? K6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:51:01 -0400 From: Thomas Schaefer To: Paul Stoetzer Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii Thanks to all. I forgot about WinAOS. That might be easier as I can select just the sats I want. I will ask another question about resetting the saved window position as last time I ran SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. Thanks, Tom From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 18 04:08:18 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 04:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes In-Reply-To: <924490214.1844240.1529294724125@mail.yahoo.com> References: <924490214.1844240.1529294724125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <717020795.1830465.1529294898264@mail.yahoo.com> Oops, sorry forgot to change the subject line on my last reply. UmeshK6VUG On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 9:05:24 PM PDT, k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: WinAOS is great to list passes for a given date and Countd is good for field events with a laptop.? Both are part of both part of SatPC32. For hand held activity, I copy predictions form amsat.org into a spreadsheet. Then a macro filters the passes by max elevation and time of day and exports the result as an iCal file.? Finally, the iCal file is imported into my Google Calendar.? Its a little bit of work once a few month, but it conveniently pings me X minutes before the next pass and don't have to carry printed copies.? There have been other apps and suggestions but found these to be most convenient, after trying several other ones.? 73!? Umesh? K6VUG ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:51:01 -0400 From: Thomas Schaefer To: Paul Stoetzer Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii Thanks to all. I forgot about WinAOS. That might be easier as I can select just the sats I want. I will ask another question about resetting the saved window position as last time I ran SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. Thanks, Tom From bandman444 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 04:56:47 2018 From: bandman444 at yahoo.com (Bandman444@yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:47 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 Message-ID: This will be the first time our club station has our satellite rig up and running and I wanted to learn from the experts about tips field Day satellite contacts. My understanding there is some bonus for a satellite contact, and likely many will be on the birds. What do you recommend to someone who is fairly familiar with making satellite contacts, but never during field day? Thanks! Bryce Chanes KR0CKT From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Mon Jun 18 10:28:25 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:28:25 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reset SatPC32 window position In-Reply-To: <1765267992.1825937.1529293206067@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1765267992.1825937.1529293206067@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <710c3487-176b-9690-5a77-b8c8dec07abb@t-online.de> Umesh, you are right. The program saves the screen position in file "SatPos.SQF", located? in the SatPC32 main data "SatPC32" folder (for configurations II ... IV in sub folders CfgII, CfgIII and CfgIV).? Line #1 contains the horizontal, line #2 the vertical screen position. You can draw? the program window to the screen position you want.? The program saves the last position if you close it via menu File > Quit, but not if you close it via the X control. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 18.06.2018 um 05:40 schrieb k6vug at sbcglobal.net: > In the file "SatPos.SQF" set first 2 lines to 100 and 100.? Worked for me. > This file is usually in the C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32 folder. > > 73! > Umesh > K6VUG > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:53:26 -0400 > From: Thomas Schaefer > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Reset SatPC32 window position > Message-ID: <4C1AC060-DCE1-46B1-9EDF-36ED3E22CD3D at ny4i.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii > > Does anyone know where the saved window position is kept for SatPC32? > > I ask as last time I used SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. SatPC32 was on the other monitor. It does not appear to detect that the system now has a single monitor and bring the window into the viewable area. When I run the program, it is starting on the second monitor and I need to reset its saved position. > > Thanks, > > Tom NY4I > > ********************** > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From py4zbz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 11:25:43 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP RX tests References: <780761286.1964684.1529321143897.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <780761286.1964684.1529321143897@mail.yahoo.com> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From kb2mjeff at att.net Mon Jun 18 12:12:56 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (jeff ) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:12:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180618121259.99466868B@lansing182.amsat.org> I would prepare to operate on the linear birds. You will be assured a contact. 73 Jeff Kb2m From: Bandman444--- via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 12:58 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 This will be the first time our club station has our satellite rig up and running and I wanted to learn from the experts about tips field Day satellite contacts. My understanding there is some bonus for a satellite contact, and likely many will be on the birds. What do you recommend to someone who is fairly familiar with making satellite contacts, but never during field day? Thanks! Bryce Chanes KR0CKT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Mon Jun 18 13:39:02 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT)) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:39:02 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is there an AMSAT Brandmeister Talkgroup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52bfec89-9e77-9e2f-fca4-8caaec682a59@msa.hinet.net> GIYF (google it). There is a talkgroup with number 926728, but this is not an official AMSAT TG. I used extended routing to connect to it, but haven't heard activity there. 73 de Hans BX2ABT On 06/17/2018 11:35 PM, K5VOU wrote: > I have discovered how easy it is to talk to ham around the world using > the Brandmeister network and an inexpensive hot spot device. Right now > I am listening to TG91 which is world wide and really enjoying it. I > have seen several special TG listed and wondered if any AMSAT > organization has a TG and if so what is the number? > > 73, > > Tom K5VOU > LM 2032 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From kb1pvh at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 14:07:54 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:07:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is there an AMSAT Brandmeister Talkgroup? In-Reply-To: <52bfec89-9e77-9e2f-fca4-8caaec682a59@msa.hinet.net> References: <52bfec89-9e77-9e2f-fca4-8caaec682a59@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure it's been disabled since they changed the way the talkgroup numbering is being done. This was discussed a couple weeks ago on the AMSAT Facebook page. Like I said on Facebook, if someone wants to create a new AMSAT talkgroup just email the Brandmeister adim team and request one. Brandmeister isn't like DMR-MARC so all talkgroups are available on the network unless a repeater owner specifically blacklists it which is highly unlikely. There were also comments that it should be numbered as a worldwide vs US group which really doesn't matter other than making someone feel good. Again....all Brandmeister talkgroups are available throughout the network. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S9 On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM Hans (BX2ABT) wrote: > GIYF (google it). > > There is a talkgroup with number 926728, but this is not an official > AMSAT TG. I used extended routing to connect to it, but haven't heard > activity there. > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT > > > > > On 06/17/2018 11:35 PM, K5VOU wrote: > > I have discovered how easy it is to talk to ham around the world using > > the Brandmeister network and an inexpensive hot spot device. Right now > > I am listening to TG91 which is world wide and really enjoying it. I > > have seen several special TG listed and wondered if any AMSAT > > organization has a TG and if so what is the number? > > > > 73, > > > > Tom K5VOU > > LM 2032 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > > of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Mon Jun 18 14:26:15 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT)) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 22:26:15 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is there an AMSAT Brandmeister Talkgroup? In-Reply-To: References: <52bfec89-9e77-9e2f-fca4-8caaec682a59@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <68a8c96d-515b-923b-34b3-297bc7b0e650@msa.hinet.net> Cheers for the update. Don't have FB and haven't been following BM news lately. I have some time on my hands this week and I'll mail the BM admin I know about it. 73 de Hans BX2ABT On 06/18/2018 10:07 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's been disabled since they changed the way the talkgroup > numbering is being done. > > This was discussed a couple weeks ago on the AMSAT Facebook page. Like I > said on Facebook, if someone wants to create a new AMSAT talkgroup just > email the Brandmeister adim team and request one. Brandmeister isn't like > DMR-MARC so all talkgroups are available on the network unless a repeater > owner specifically blacklists it which is highly unlikely. There were also > comments that it should be numbered as a worldwide vs US group which really > doesn't matter other than making someone feel good. Again....all > Brandmeister talkgroups are available throughout the network. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > > Sent from my Galaxy S9 > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM Hans (BX2ABT) > wrote: > >> GIYF (google it). >> >> There is a talkgroup with number 926728, but this is not an official >> AMSAT TG. I used extended routing to connect to it, but haven't heard >> activity there. >> >> 73 de Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> >> >> >> On 06/17/2018 11:35 PM, K5VOU wrote: >>> I have discovered how easy it is to talk to ham around the world using >>> the Brandmeister network and an inexpensive hot spot device. Right now >>> I am listening to TG91 which is world wide and really enjoying it. I >>> have seen several special TG listed and wondered if any AMSAT >>> organization has a TG and if so what is the number? >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Tom K5VOU >>> LM 2032 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From seb at wintek.com Mon Jun 18 14:27:20 2018 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:27:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E9C1A42-165A-4079-9727-2CC6FF23724D@wintek.com> Bryce, Just a few random thoughts: 1. Yes, the ARRL gives a station 100 bonus points for making a satellite contact 2. Don't use an omnidirectional antenna. Best choice is probably an Arrow or Elk handheld, or a similar homemade antenna. While a larger antenna array with Az/El rotors should work, the handheld has fewer things to break and gives you better control over the polarity. 3. FM satellites will be completely clogged and nearly useless. If you want to attempt an FM contact, pick a pass when the satellite is located over Canada, the Atlantic Ocean, or the Pacific Ocean. You'll have less competition. Also, check the AMSAT website status page and the @AMSAT Twitter account to make sure AO-92 isn't in L/V mode when you're trying to operate it. 4. As KB2M suggested, your best opportunities for contacts will be with the SSB satellites. Make sure you try the Chinese satellites, XW-2A, XW-2B, XW-2C, XW-2D, XW-2F, CAS-4A, and CAS-4B. These have sensitive receivers and strong transmitters. FO-29 is always popular. AO-7 is likely to be in Mode A because it usually can't handle the high-power stations with its limited power supply, which almost always cause AO-7 to "flip" from Mode B to Mode A. 5. *Practice* as many passes as you can this week *before* Field Day actually starts. Good luck! 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com ?On 6/17/18, 11:59 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bandman444--- via AMSAT-BB" wrote: This will be the first time our club station has our satellite rig up and running and I wanted to learn from the experts about tips field Day satellite contacts. My understanding there is some bonus for a satellite contact, and likely many will be on the birds. What do you recommend to someone who is fairly familiar with making satellite contacts, but never during field day? Thanks! Bryce Chanes KR0CKT From va3ase at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 15:52:55 2018 From: va3ase at gmail.com (VA3ASE) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:52:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging Message-ID: Hello friends, I'll be operating our club satellite station for Field Day and intend to submit results towards the club ARRL score as well as the AMSAT contest. In past years we have kept paper records during the event then typed them out for submission, but last year we vowed to find a logging program that would support satellite contacts. Even if we have to manually sort the ARRL from the AMSAT results at the end I think it would be worthwhile. So I'm looking for suggestions. Our club is using "N3FJP Field Day Contest Log" which I don't think allows logging the same contact on multiple satellites per AMSAT rules. Would "N3FJP Amateur Contact Log" be better suited? I don't mind paying for good software, especially if I can use it for my own satellite logging later. Or if an Excel spreadsheet is truly the best option then I'll consider that. Thanks and 73, Alex VA3ASE From aj9n at aol.com Mon Jun 18 18:27:42 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:27:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-18 18:00 UTC Message-ID: <16414271182-c92-24e8@webjas-vaa065.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-18 18:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Tehni?ka ?kola Zaje?ar, Zaje?ar, Serbia, direct via YU1ACR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-06-19 14:20:20 UTC 50 deg ? Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg (***) ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-18 18:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1231. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1180. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From ingejack at cox.net Mon Jun 18 22:57:54 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G550 G5400 G5500 Message-ID: <916088488.376780.1529362674338@myemail.cox.net> Still in need of a good used Yaesu Az/EL rotor or the G550 Elevation rotor in good shape operationally and cosmetically thank you JACK KC7MG please advise price shipped to 85122 and condition.. Thank You From Saguaroastro at cox.net Tue Jun 19 01:05:13 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:05:13 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 Message-ID: May I also suggest packet via NO-84 or Falconsat as an easy way to make the contact Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 18, 2018, at 07:27, "Stephen E. Belter" wrote: Bryce, Just a few random thoughts: 1. Yes, the ARRL gives a station 100 bonus points for making a satellite contact 2. Don't use an omnidirectional antenna. Best choice is probably an Arrow or Elk handheld, or a similar homemade antenna. While a larger antenna array with Az/El rotors should work, the handheld has fewer things to break and gives you better control over the polarity. 3. FM satellites will be completely clogged and nearly useless. If you want to attempt an FM contact, pick a pass when the satellite is located over Canada, the Atlantic Ocean, or the Pacific Ocean. You'll have less competition. Also, check the AMSAT website status page and the @AMSAT Twitter account to make sure AO-92 isn't in L/V mode when you're trying to operate it. 4. As KB2M suggested, your best opportunities for contacts will be with the SSB satellites. Make sure you try the Chinese satellites, XW-2A, XW-2B, XW-2C, XW-2D, XW-2F, CAS-4A, and CAS-4B. These have sensitive receivers and strong transmitters. FO-29 is always popular. AO-7 is likely to be in Mode A because it usually can't handle the high-power stations with its limited power supply, which almost always cause AO-7 to "flip" from Mode B to Mode A. 5. *Practice* as many passes as you can this week *before* Field Day actually starts. Good luck! 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com ?On 6/17/18, 11:59 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bandman444--- via AMSAT-BB" wrote: This will be the first time our club station has our satellite rig up and running and I wanted to learn from the experts about tips field Day satellite contacts. My understanding there is some bonus for a satellite contact, and likely many will be on the birds. What do you recommend to someone who is fairly familiar with making satellite contacts, but never during field day? Thanks! Bryce Chanes KR0CKT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From maccody at att.net Tue Jun 19 02:47:31 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:47:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b15a920-a922-5bd3-e4b3-3699765d6474@att.net> From my experience, it helps to work nighttime satellite passes.? Even the FM satellites are not as busy late in the evening. That's how I got the 100 bonus point for my club last year.? They'll probably be even less busy in the wee hours of the morning. 73, Mac Cody /? AE5PH On 06/17/2018 11:56 PM, Bandman444--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > This will be the first time our club station has our satellite rig up and running and I wanted to learn from the experts about tips field Day satellite contacts. My understanding there is some bonus for a satellite contact, and likely many will be on the birds. > > What do you recommend to someone who is fairly familiar with making satellite contacts, but never during field day? > > Thanks! > > Bryce Chanes > KR0CKT > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kx9x at yahoo.com Tue Jun 19 03:09:16 2018 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 23:09:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites Contacts for Field Day 101 In-Reply-To: <8b15a920-a922-5bd3-e4b3-3699765d6474@att.net> References: <8b15a920-a922-5bd3-e4b3-3699765d6474@att.net> Message-ID: <2E170F59-525D-40AE-AA94-EF54B0BAB3CD@yahoo.com> Hi Bryce- Read my article on this very topic in the June QST, or read a PDF of it on the AMSAT website here: https://www.amsat.org/get-on-the-satellites-for-field-day/ Sean KX9X Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2018, at 10:47 PM, Mac A. Cody wrote: > > From my experience, it helps to work nighttime satellite passes. Even > the FM satellites are not as busy late in the evening. That's how I got > the 100 bonus point for my club last year. They'll probably be even less > busy in the wee hours of the morning. > > 73, > > Mac Cody / AE5PH > >> On 06/17/2018 11:56 PM, Bandman444--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> This will be the first time our club station has our satellite rig up and running and I wanted to learn from the experts about tips field Day satellite contacts. My understanding there is some bonus for a satellite contact, and likely many will be on the birds. >> >> What do you recommend to someone who is fairly familiar with making satellite contacts, but never during field day? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Bryce Chanes >> KR0CKT >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu Mon Jun 18 16:21:50 2018 From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:21:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have used N3FJP Amateur Contact Log for many years and it works well for satellites with a little bit of easily accomplished and well-documented customization. However, I primarily use it now for HF only out of a desire to keep my satellite logs separate from other amateur activity. For satellites I currently use Log4OM, which is a free download (donationware) and very easy for satellite use. I suspect that either of these programs would work for you. The N3FJP contest logs are excellent, but you are correct that the Field Day log program is designed only for ARRL parameters, and not according to the AMSAT field day rules. -- Mark D. Johns K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:04 AM VA3ASE wrote: > Hello friends, > > I'll be operating our club satellite station for Field Day and intend to > submit results towards the club ARRL score as well as the AMSAT contest. In > past years we have kept paper records during the event then typed them out > for submission, but last year we vowed to find a logging program that would > support satellite contacts. Even if we have to manually sort the ARRL from > the AMSAT results at the end I think it would be worthwhile. So I'm looking > for suggestions. > > Our club is using "N3FJP Field Day Contest Log" which I don't think allows > logging the same contact on multiple satellites per AMSAT rules. Would > "N3FJP Amateur Contact Log" be better suited? I don't mind paying for good > software, especially if I can use it for my own satellite logging later. Or > if an Excel spreadsheet is truly the best option then I'll consider that. > > Thanks and 73, > Alex VA3ASE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From DougPhelps at protonmail.com Tue Jun 19 01:08:01 2018 From: DougPhelps at protonmail.com (Doug Phelps) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:08:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 212 In-Reply-To: <924490214.1844240.1529294724125@mail.yahoo.com> References: <924490214.1844240.1529294724125@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2_IxfIwPfRoXV5yUdCGN7diSiTR15k7R0v5jps2snDD1pzmE2VyLF3gVS-Q44O5ooTIAB55my5FZaucjlrMaS26KvBkgp-K1OWOoGNHM4L4=@protonmail.com> ISS detector does all that automatically. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Jun 17, 2018, 11:05 PM, k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > WinAOS is great to list passes for a given date and Countd is good for field events with a laptop. Both are part of both part of SatPC32. > > For hand held activity, I copy predictions form amsat.org into a spreadsheet. Then a macro filters the passes by max elevation and time of day and exports the result as an iCal file. Finally, the iCal file is imported into my Google Calendar. Its a little bit of work once a few month, but it conveniently pings me X minutes before the next pass and don't have to carry printed copies. > > There have been other apps and suggestions but found these to be most convenient, after trying several other ones. > > 73! > Umesh > K6VUG > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:51:01 -0400 > From: Thomas Schaefer > To: Paul Stoetzer > Cc: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Generate times for FD satellite passes > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks to all. I forgot about WinAOS. > > That might be easier as I can select just the sats I want. > > I will ask another question about resetting the saved window position as last time I ran SatPC32, I had 2 monitors. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ka3hdo at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 12:33:35 2018 From: ka3hdo at gmail.com (ka3hdo at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:33:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Events Message-ID: <04a501d407c9$bedf6780$3c9e3680$@gmail.com> All, Several upcoming ARISS events: ARISS-Russia, in collaboration with the Southwest State University in Kursk, Russia, are developing a series of educational CubeSat satellites called Tanusha. Two Tanusha CubeSats were developed by students at Southwest State University and were hand-deployed by cosmonauts during an August 2017 extravehicular activity. These two CubeSats are performing cluster flight experiments through communications links. A second set of CubeSats, Tanusha 3 & 4 were launched earlier this year and are currently on-board ISS. Tanusha 3 & 4 are planned to be hand deployed by Cosmonauts in August. They will perform even more comprehensive cluster flight objectives than Tanusha 1 & 2. On June 20, Tanusha 3 will be connected to one of the ARISS Service Module antennas and will transmit from 0730-1200 UTC on 437.05 MHz. These FM transmissions will include greetings from students in several languages, including Russian, English, Spanish and Chinese. On June 21, Tanusha 4 will be connected to one of the ARISS Service Module antennas and will transmit from 0730-1200 UTC on the same frequency: 437.05 MHz. The ARISS-Russia team plan to also retransmit these signals on the standard ARISS 2-meter downlink, 145.80 MHz using the JVC Kenwood D700 radio that is still on-board ISS. All are invited to listen to the CubeSats from ISS on 437.05 and/or 145.80 MHz. The next SSTV image downlinks are planned for June 29-July 1. These images will commemorate the various satellites that the ARISS team has developed and hand-deployed from the ISS. These will include the first satellite deployment from ISS: SuitSat-1/Radioskaf-1 which was deployed in February 2006. More details on this will be forthcoming as the date draws near. We thank ARISS-Russia delegate Sergey Samburov, RV3DR for this latest information. 73, Frank Bauer, KA3HDO -------------------------------------------- Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO ISS Ham Radio Program Manager & PI ARISS International Chair AMSAT V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs e-mail: ka3hdo at gmail.com NASA e-mail: Frank.Bauer at nasa.gov Cell Phone: 301-873-0890 Work Phone: 301-804-0173 About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. From matthew at mrstevens.net Tue Jun 19 13:03:53 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:03:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: fwiw, I just hand log for field day. Most people aren't making enough contacts to really make computer logging necessary for sats, and the FD logging software most people use (like N3FJP) doesn't work well for amsat field day (no dupes allowed, etc.). I tried logging software last year and it was a pain. Just keeping a legal pad handy for writing down passes and contacts works well enough for me. 73, - Matthew nj4y On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Mark D. Johns wrote: > I have used N3FJP Amateur Contact Log for many years and it works well for > satellites with a little bit of easily accomplished and well-documented > customization. However, I primarily use it now for HF only out of a desire > to keep my satellite logs separate from other amateur activity. For > satellites I currently use Log4OM, which is a free download (donationware) > and very easy for satellite use. I suspect that either of these programs > would work for you. The N3FJP contest logs are excellent, but you are > correct that the Field Day log program is designed only for ARRL > parameters, and not according to the AMSAT field day rules. > -- > Mark D. Johns > K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ > Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:04 AM VA3ASE wrote: > >> Hello friends, >> >> I'll be operating our club satellite station for Field Day and intend to >> submit results towards the club ARRL score as well as the AMSAT contest. In >> past years we have kept paper records during the event then typed them out >> for submission, but last year we vowed to find a logging program that would >> support satellite contacts. Even if we have to manually sort the ARRL from >> the AMSAT results at the end I think it would be worthwhile. So I'm looking >> for suggestions. >> >> Our club is using "N3FJP Field Day Contest Log" which I don't think allows >> logging the same contact on multiple satellites per AMSAT rules. Would >> "N3FJP Amateur Contact Log" be better suited? I don't mind paying for good >> software, especially if I can use it for my own satellite logging later. Or >> if an Excel spreadsheet is truly the best option then I'll consider that. >> >> Thanks and 73, >> Alex VA3ASE >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at milnet.uk.net Tue Jun 19 18:14:44 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 19:14:44 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: <437F6015E4F145609EEC749AB9785805@jimPC2> Hi Folks, AO-73/FUNCube has just been switched mode, so that the transponder is now ON full time. This is to support Field Day this coming weekend. It will remain in full time transponder mode until at least Sunday PM (UTC). You may also wish to try UKube-1 and EO-88. As always, have FUN. 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNCube team From: Jim Heck Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:14 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Hi folks, I have just changed the sat into education mode (full power beacon in sunlight, low power beacon plus transponder on in darkness). Due to operator availability, it may not be possible to switch to full time transponder mode next weekend. 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team. From ns3l at yahoo.com Tue Jun 19 16:33:14 2018 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] W3OK - Field Day Sat operation and demonstration.. References: <1548100024.2882552.1529425994739.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1548100024.2882552.1529425994739@mail.yahoo.com> For this upcoming FD I will again be working Sat?s and giving demonstrations signing W3OK from the Delaware-Leigh Amateur Radio Club FD operation located in FN20 in Northampton County, Pa. I expect to be working linear birds only. FO-29, AO-7, XW?s, And both CAS?s. Steve NS3L From ks1g04 at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 18:47:15 2018 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:47:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging Message-ID: Our club uses N1MM+ with the HF stations networked. I run a stand alone copy that is never connected to the network or to my satellite radio. I assign one band to each satellite/band and manually switch "bands" at the start of a pass. This let's me manage dupes on each satellite and see where I have been working someone. After field day, I export the log to a spreadsheet and remove the dupes per ARRL rules, this info goes to the person sending in our log. Works for me and I don't mess up the FD network. I haven't checked if the N1MM dx-satellite mode accepts the FD exchange instead of a grid. It doesn't distinguish between satellites, so no dupe checking in real time. Steve KS1G From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 19 22:56:56 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <196637431.13311.1529449016875@mail.yahoo.com> Initially I planned to use N1MM+, and got it to work alongside SatPC32. N1MM & SatPC32 :? https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lDiocYrz92OnfL1F0rttKhBOhfz68ShP However after reading old posts in the AMSAT-BB archives, I decided to log everything in a spreadsheet.? And thanks to Erich, DK1TB, for enabling DDE in SatPC32, it makes things easier, the spreadsheet integrates with SatPC32 to grab the Satellite Name, Up/Dn Frequencies, Modes and Time. Then I can export the spreadsheet log as an ADI file.? ( Since my other laptop does not have MS Excel, I ported it to Open Office Calc too. ) Spreadsheet using SatPC32 DDE : SatPC32_Logger.png I'll be using the club call KU6S for FD.? 73! Umesh K6VUG ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:52:55 -0400 From: VA3ASE To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello friends, I'll be operating our club satellite station for Field Day and intend to submit results towards the club ARRL score as well as the AMSAT contest. In past years we have kept paper records during the event then typed them out for submission, but last year we vowed to find a logging program that would support satellite contacts. Even if we have to manually sort the ARRL from the AMSAT results at the end I think it would be worthwhile. So I'm looking for suggestions. Our club is using "N3FJP Field Day Contest Log" which I don't think allows logging the same contact on multiple satellites per AMSAT rules. Would "N3FJP Amateur Contact Log" be better suited? I don't mind paying for good software, especially if I can use it for my own satellite logging later. Or if an Excel spreadsheet is truly the best option then I'll consider that. Thanks and 73, Alex VA3ASE ------------------------------ From aj9n at aol.com Wed Jun 20 06:08:40 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 02:08:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC Message-ID: <1641bcf3076-c92-47d4@webjas-vae017.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Tehni?ka ?kola Zaje?ar, Zaje?ar, Serbia, direct via YU1ACR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact was successful: Tue 2018-06-19 14:20:20 UTC 50 deg (***) ? Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-20 04:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1232. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1181. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From joevk5ei at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 09:00:46 2018 From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:30:46 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT991A with Foxtelem Message-ID: Hi Group, Helping a fellow Ham setting up his radio to decode the DUV from the Fox birds. Has anyone had success using the Yaesu FT991A USB audio output into the Fox Telemetry decoder. Any setup details would be much appreciated. TNX Joe From joevk5ei at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 10:59:48 2018 From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:29:48 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions Message-ID: 10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3. Any reports from others ? JP From mail at mike-rupprecht.de Wed Jun 20 11:16:10 2018 From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:16:10 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301d40888$180ce620$4826b260$@de> Hi Joe, also nothing over Europe :-( 73 Mike DK3WN -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Joe Pereira Gesendet: 20 June 2018 13:00 An: AMSAT BB Betreff: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions 10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3. Any reports from others ? JP _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 11:44:50 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 07:44:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions In-Reply-To: <000301d40888$180ce620$4826b260$@de> References: <000301d40888$180ce620$4826b260$@de> Message-ID: I only had one pass during the scheduled time period and it was only 0.7 max elevation, at 1136 UTC, just a bit ago, but I did not hear anything. It was supposedly on 1.5 hrs ago according to ISSfanclub. Apparently they turned it off a bit early. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 07:17 Mike Rupprecht wrote: > Hi Joe, > also nothing over Europe :-( > > 73 Mike > DK3WN > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Joe > Pereira > Gesendet: 20 June 2018 13:00 > An: AMSAT BB > Betreff: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions > > 10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3. > > Any reports from others ? > > JP > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 17:38:12 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:38:12 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3B8 Sat project now underway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, I wish to inform you guys that the 1st 3B8 cubesat is taking shape and will fly in 2019. Links: http://www.mbcradio.tv/article/le-journal-t?l?vis?-juin-20-2018 , http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/06/20180619_kibocube.html Hopefully it will carry a HAM transponder also and I am working on it. I will surely need some help from you guys to make this venture a success and I am calling for volunteers/experts to help us/me. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DIU) From contact at juliennicolas.com Wed Jun 20 11:29:49 2018 From: contact at juliennicolas.com (Julien NICOLAS) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:29:49 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions In-Reply-To: <000301d40888$180ce620$4826b260$@de> References: <000301d40888$180ce620$4826b260$@de> Message-ID: <41b163f7c4dbc15bba03965de6ebbee8@juliennicolas.com> Hello, You can check near everywhere in the world if something has been received with the Satnogs project. https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&good=1&bad=1&unvetted=1&failed=1&norad=25544&observer=&station= And of course it's not limited to the ISS. If you want to schedule an observation anywhere in the network you must share your ground station (even a not motorized one). But for a public event like ARISS contact, observations are automatically scheduled over all the network. A lot of ham ground station are already in the network. F4HVX Le 20/06/2018 13:16, Mike Rupprecht a ?crit?: > Hi Joe, > also nothing over Europe :-( > > 73 Mike > DK3WN > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Joe > Pereira > Gesendet: 20 June 2018 13:00 > An: AMSAT BB > Betreff: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions > > 10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3. > > Any reports from others ? > > JP > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va7kbm at outlook.com Wed Jun 20 07:18:46 2018 From: va7kbm at outlook.com (Ken M) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 07:18:46 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? Message-ID: Hello AMSATers, I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? Thanks & 73, Ken VA7KBM From bryan at kl7cn.net Wed Jun 20 22:53:00 2018 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:53:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Five watts is definitely sufficient for the common linear satellites. There are circumstances when it is nice to have a little more -- maybe 10 watts -- such as on a very low pass from a high location. But, there are so many who use the 5-watt FT-817ND that you will soon hear a chorus. :) -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jun 20, 2018, at 00:18, Ken M wrote: > > Hello AMSATers, > > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? > > For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? > > Thanks & 73, > Ken VA7KBM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From peter at magicbug.co.uk Wed Jun 20 22:54:03 2018 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:54:03 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 5w is plenty! 73 Peter, 2M0SQL On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, 23:50 Ken M, wrote: > Hello AMSATers, > > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the > common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? > > For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink > radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just > a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? > > Thanks & 73, > Ken VA7KBM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jim at k6ccc.org Wed Jun 20 23:27:31 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?RF_power_required_for_linear_satellites=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1529537251.553924340@apps.rackspace.com> Five watts should be find. If I remember right, my low power record into FO-20 or FO29 was 20 milliwatts for a perfectly usable QSO. I will point out that I was using a full Oscar 10 class station. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/SatAnt1.html Jim Walls K6CCC -----Original Message----- From: "Ken M" Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 00:18 To: "AMSAT-BB at amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? Hello AMSATers, I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? Thanks & 73, Ken VA7KBM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jun 20 23:31:10 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 19:31:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? In-Reply-To: <1529537251.553924340@apps.rackspace.com> References: <1529537251.553924340@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: I have heard myself on FO-29 with 50 mW to an Arrow (at a high elevation) and made one QSO using 250 mW. I've used 500 mW quite frequently. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 7:27 PM, jim at k6ccc.org wrote: > > Five watts should be find. If I remember right, my low power record into > FO-20 or FO29 was 20 milliwatts for a perfectly usable QSO. I will point > out that I was using a full Oscar 10 class station. > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/SatAnt1.html > > Jim Walls > K6CCC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Ken M" > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 00:18 > To: "AMSAT-BB at amsat.org" > Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? > > Hello AMSATers, > > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the > common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? > > For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink > radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just > a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? > > Thanks & 73, > Ken VA7KBM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zmetzing at pobox.com Wed Jun 20 23:34:56 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:34:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f01acdf-716a-2f0f-5735-060245339df8@pobox.com> On 06/20/18 02:18, Ken M wrote: > Hello AMSATers, > > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? This page has some useful tips: https://amsat-uk.org/beginners/how-to-work-ssb-satellites/ --- Zach N0ZGO From seb at wintek.com Wed Jun 20 23:35:56 2018 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:35:56 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D5178F3-2D1B-44C5-9AB1-584E4EBA1261@wintek.com> Ken, I agree with Bryan, for 364 of the days of the year. 5 watts is usually fine and sometimes too much for the linear satellites. This is really a function of how busy the satellite is, and how much power the other operators are using. On a quiet pass, some operators report success with only 50 milliwatts. The one day of the year that you may have trouble with is Field Day, with lots of traffic, and a few QRO stations. I'm not encouraging you to use more power, as that can cause real problems on AO-7 (usually causing it to crash or reset to Mode A) or FO-29 (usually causing severe FM'ing of the entire passband). But be aware that your experience on Field Day may be different than the rest of the year. I do encourage you to use a good antenna (e.g., Arrow or Elk), a relatively short length of quality coax (6-10 feet of LMR-240 Ultraflex, not RG-8), and no connector adapters. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com On 6/20/18, 5:57 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bryan KL7CN" wrote: Five watts is definitely sufficient for the common linear satellites. There are circumstances when it is nice to have a little more -- maybe 10 watts -- such as on a very low pass from a high location. But, there are so many who use the 5-watt FT-817ND that you will soon hear a chorus. :) -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jun 20, 2018, at 00:18, Ken M wrote: > > Hello AMSATers, > > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? > > For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? > > Thanks & 73, > Ken VA7KBM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 02:34:25 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:34:25 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/20/18, Ken M wrote: > Hello AMSATers, > > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the > common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)? > > > For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink > radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just > a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D? The lowest output power of my radio is 5 W and that's more than adequate for working linear satellites. For example, I've often been on south-north FO-29 passes to the west of me. From my balcony, I've been able to hear my signal, however faintly, all the way to LOS. According to my tracking software, the grid square where that occurs is somewhere on the Arctic Ocean with the distance to the satellite usually more than 3500 km from my QTH. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From aa8ch at aol.com Thu Jun 21 14:57:40 2018 From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:57:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EN84 activation Monday June 25 Message-ID: <16422d9daa7-c8f-6669@webjas-vae161.srv.aolmail.net> Look for ops AA8CH and WW8W to be active from EN84 on Monday June 25th. Tentative plans include XWs in the 1300 hour, and the morning (our time) AO92s and the CAS4 passes. We might try AO07 and FO29 as well. Transmission on linears will be fixed frequency and tuning for callers. Bring your SAT gear to work with you if you need this grid. Email to AA8CH with any questions. QSOs uploaded to LOTW as always. Good luck and hope to hear everyone! Chris AA8CH From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 19:08:43 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 23:08:43 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3B8 Sat project now underway 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, Another link for the National TV cover on the project: http://mbc.intnet.mu/article/vid?o-mauritius-infra-red-satellite-one-le-1er-satellite-mauricien-est-en-phase-de-mise-? Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > > Dear All, > > I wish to inform you guys that the 1st 3B8 cubesat is taking shape and will fly in 2019. > > Links: http://www.mbcradio.tv/article/le-journal-t?l?vis?-juin-20-2018 , http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/06/20180619_kibocube.html > > Hopefully it will carry a HAM transponder also and I am working on it. > > I will surely need some help from you guys to make this venture a success and I am calling for volunteers/experts to help us/me. > > > 73 > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DIU) From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Fri Jun 22 11:15:25 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:15:25 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Second call for Speakers Message-ID: <3BC04A44-96E9-468E-A63C-8885F9573AF3@g4dpz.me.uk> This is the second call for speakers for the AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2018 which will be held on Saturday and Sunday, October 13-14 at the Kents Hill Park Conference Centre, Timbold Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 6BZ, United Kingdom. AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites, CubeSats, Nanosats, Space, High Altitude Balloons and associated activities, for this event. Those wishing to speak should contact Dave, G4DPZ, dave at g4dpz dot me dot uk Further information https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium 73 Dave G4DPZ From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Fri Jun 22 14:16:10 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:16:10 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Speakers Message-ID: <4CB03EE2-8F11-4DC8-BAB3-5A41B129349A@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, On behalf of the AMSAT-UK Committee I am pleased to announce the list of speakers who have volunteered to present papers at the event (https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/ ) Dr, Chris Bridges, M0IEB (and students), Surrey Space Centre: "ESA ESEO Payloads" Matthew Cosby, Chief Scientist, Goonhilly Earth Station Ltd: "Goonhilly : Developing a global deep space communications network" The FUNcube Team: "JY1Sat , FUNcube Next" Peter Guelzow, DB2OS, AMSAT-DL: "Es'hail-2 and it's amateur radio payload" David Johnson, G4DPZ & Carlos Eavis, G3VHF: "An introduction to Amateur Satellites" Naomi Kurahara, Chief Exec, Infostellar JP: "Distributed Grounstations (StellarStation)" Ciaran Morgan, M0XTD, ARISS-UK (and school pupil): ARISS / STEM Outreach Prof. David Southwood, Imperial College London : "Cassini-Huygens: Odyssey to Saturn and Titan" Joe Spier, K6WAO, President, AMSAT-NA: "50 Years of AMSAT and Beyond" Iain Young, G7III: "Automated reception of FUNcube and Fox Telemetry" Details of when they will be presenting during the event will be published in the near future. (We still have 3 slots available if you want to volunteer a presentation) In addition to the presentations, the ARISS-UK team will be assembling a demonstration ground station with the same configuration as that used in schools contacts. 73 Dave, G4DPZ ---------- ANS Editors, Please add article, thanks, Dave From occamrazr at yahoo.com Fri Jun 22 20:15:35 2018 From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:15:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] global satellite tracking !? Message-ID: Does anyone know anything about this: https://www.stellarstation.com/amateur ? UHF only for now, but some neat stuff here: https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/40-decoding-downloaded-iq Future updates here: https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/36-product-roadmap Some fine print (enlarged for easier reading ;-): Regarding amateur frequencies: Amateur ground stations use special credits that are designated to only amateur frequencies. Credits that are earned by sharing commercial ground stations cannot be spent for using amateur ground stations. Additionally, credits earned through amateur ground stations cannot be converted to cash. The only way to access amateur ground stations in the StellarStation network is to share your existing amateur ground station to earn special credits designated for amateur frequencies. How it works: When you share your unused antenna time and earn credit, you can then spend your credit to access other antennas, dramatically expanding your communication window without paying for additional passes. Users without a ground station can simply sign up to use any compatible ground station on our platform with pay-as-you-go billing and no upfront costs. Work in progress? Vaporware? Too good to be true? Anyone willing to give it a try? Yes, I have signed up with SatNOGS, but my ground station is not yet complete? Butch K8KO From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri Jun 22 20:59:47 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:59:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun In-Reply-To: <1f08e272-7b08-6961-b0ed-5a2c27b8da05@gmail.com> References: <000601d4005e$4339e320$c9ada960$@mindspring.com> <001f01d400fb$33b888f0$9b299ad0$@mindspring.com> <3b1b9ef6-c816-eaaa-bdab-bc37a600c9a0@gmail.com> <1f08e272-7b08-6961-b0ed-5a2c27b8da05@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00aa01d40a6b$f4524dc0$dcf6e940$@mindspring.com> That's the plan pending a successful mode change this evening. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: Greg D Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:36 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun Hi Drew, Just confirming... Mode L/v for tomorrow? We have a perfect pass at 11:09 local PDT (Field Day start + 9 minutes) on Saturday that I'd love to try. Thanks! Greg KO6TH Greg D wrote: > My thought, exactly. > > Thanks, Drew, > > Greg KO6TH > > > Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> If you have L capability, this is the way to an easy 100 points. From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Fri Jun 22 21:18:01 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:18:01 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] global satellite tracking !? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <272E07F6-65B6-407E-9CC0-9CE7C2C4F138@g4dpz.me.uk> Yes, it exists and I am about to receive a StellarStation to join in the Early adoption testing. Naomi Kurahara the Chief Exec of Infostellar is giving a presentation of the system at the AMSAT-UK Colloquium in October. 73 Dave, G4DPZ Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jun 2018, at 21:15, Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about this: https://www.stellarstation.com/amateur ? > > UHF only for now, but some neat stuff here: https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/40-decoding-downloaded-iq > > Future updates here: https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/36-product-roadmap > > Some fine print (enlarged for easier reading ;-): > Regarding amateur frequencies: Amateur ground stations use special credits that are designated to only amateur frequencies. Credits that are earned by sharing commercial ground stations cannot be spent for using amateur ground stations. Additionally, credits earned through amateur ground stations cannot be converted to cash. > The only way to access amateur ground stations in the StellarStation network is to share your existing amateur ground station to earn special credits designated for amateur frequencies. > > How it works: When you share your unused antenna time and earn credit, you can then spend your credit to access other antennas, dramatically expanding your communication window without paying for additional passes. > > Users without a ground station can simply sign up to use any compatible ground station on our platform with pay-as-you-go billing and no upfront costs. > > Work in progress? Vaporware? Too good to be true? Anyone willing to give it a try? > > Yes, I have signed up with SatNOGS, but my ground station is not yet complete? > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Jun 23 02:06:20 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:06:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun In-Reply-To: <00aa01d40a6b$f4524dc0$dcf6e940$@mindspring.com> References: <000601d4005e$4339e320$c9ada960$@mindspring.com> <001f01d400fb$33b888f0$9b299ad0$@mindspring.com> <3b1b9ef6-c816-eaaa-bdab-bc37a600c9a0@gmail.com> <1f08e272-7b08-6961-b0ed-5a2c27b8da05@gmail.com> <00aa01d40a6b$f4524dc0$dcf6e940$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <00b601d40a96$c73a5cd0$55af1670$@mindspring.com> Mode change made at 0158Z, and orbit earlier than planned due to a few different reasons. Should stay in L/v through 0158Z 24Jun for the first half of field day. Good luck! I don't recall ever having so many satellites available before. Have patience with the new guys. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:00 PM To: 'Greg D' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun That's the plan pending a successful mode change this evening. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: Greg D Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:36 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun Hi Drew, Just confirming... Mode L/v for tomorrow? We have a perfect pass at 11:09 local PDT (Field Day start + 9 minutes) on Saturday that I'd love to try. Thanks! Greg KO6TH Greg D wrote: > My thought, exactly. > > Thanks, Drew, > > Greg KO6TH > > > Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> If you have L capability, this is the way to an easy 100 points. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Jun 23 02:22:26 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:22:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reminder! AMSAT Field Day Starts at 1800 UTC 23-Jun Message-ID: All those with satellite stations for Field Day, remember to calculate and submit your scores for AMSAT Field Day as well as ARRL Field Day. AMSAT Field Day allows working stations on multiple satellites, whereas ARRL rules count "satellite" as a single band (working a station on a second satellite is a dupe under ARRL rules). AMSAT Field Day also awards points for uploads and downloads of Field Day greetings from store-and-forward packet satellites (FalconSAT-3). See the AMSAT Field Day rules and submission requirements at https://www.amsat.org/field-day/. There are 4 FM satellites, 12 linear transponder satellites, and 3 digital satellites that will be operational during Field Day this year. Anyone looking for the 100 point ARRL Field Day bonus should be able to easily pick it up. FM AO-91 AO-92 (In L/v mode through 0158Z 24-Jun, U/v mode after) AO-85 SO-50 Linear Transponder AO-7 AO-73 CAS-4A CAS-4B EO-88 (Eclipse Only) FO-29 UKube-1 XW-2A XW-2B XW-2C XW-2D XW-2F Digital FalconSAT-3 (PBBS & Digipeater) NO-84 (PSK31 & Digipeater) LO-90 (FM Uplink / Codec2 Downlink) Satellite details are available at https://www.amsat.org/two-way-satellites/ . 73, Paul, N8HM From jbl4560 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 08:22:17 2018 From: jbl4560 at yahoo.com (Mike S) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 02:22:17 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) Message-ID: <1529742139.WdoHf4H3cXu2NWdoJf18g4@mf-smf-ucb034c1> http://famous.rebeccakirstin.com Mike S From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Jun 23 17:10:44 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 13:10:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS contacts between passes at field day Message-ID: While you are between Sat passes, you can use your APRS HT to make APRS contacts all over the country too. They wont count for FD contest points, unless it is direct with no digipeater, but the opportunity to make a bunch of live APRS contacts during a global contest should be fun! Simply activate your APRS station there by sending a Global CQ FD message to the world. Just send an APRS message to CQSRVR with the first words being CQ FD XX SSS... (where XX SSS is your category and ARRL section) This message will go to every other CQ FD site on the planet (if they have sent the same CQ message). To make a contact, when you see one of these CQ FD messages from the CQSRVR, then you simply send back an APRS message to their callsign direct. When he acknowledges it, then it is a contact. Of course, I have not even read the FD rules since, for a decade, such. APRS contacts do not count because they go via digipeaters. But HAVE FUN! Enjoy APRS and put your FD site on the map. Use the PORTABLE symbol which is a tent... For info on the global CQSRVR see: http://aprs.org/cqsrvr.html And you can use it for ANY global message group any day of the year too. For example CQ AMSAT or CQ JOTA or CQ IOTA, or CQ SOTA To keep the global traffic load down, you can only send one of these CQ messages once every 30 minutes, But when you see other callsigns, you can send direct message as many as you want since they go point-to-point. Bob, WB4APR From gary_mayfield at hotmail.com Sat Jun 23 04:06:34 2018 From: gary_mayfield at hotmail.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:06:34 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reminder! AMSAT Field Day Starts at 1800 UTC 23-Jun In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What frequency should we monitor for anything from ISS? 73, Joe kk0sd Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > All those with satellite stations for Field Day, remember to calculate and > submit your scores for AMSAT Field Day as well as ARRL Field Day. AMSAT > Field Day allows working stations on multiple satellites, whereas ARRL > rules count "satellite" as a single band (working a station on a second > satellite is a dupe under ARRL rules). AMSAT Field Day also awards points > for uploads and downloads of Field Day greetings from store-and-forward > packet satellites (FalconSAT-3). > > See the AMSAT Field Day rules and submission requirements at > https://www.amsat.org/field-day/. > > There are 4 FM satellites, 12 linear transponder satellites, and 3 digital > satellites that will be operational during Field Day this year. Anyone > looking for the 100 point ARRL Field Day bonus should be able to easily > pick it up. > > FM > AO-91 > AO-92 (In L/v mode through 0158Z 24-Jun, U/v mode after) > AO-85 > SO-50 > > Linear Transponder > AO-7 > AO-73 > CAS-4A > CAS-4B > EO-88 (Eclipse Only) > FO-29 > UKube-1 > XW-2A > XW-2B > XW-2C > XW-2D > XW-2F > > Digital > FalconSAT-3 (PBBS & Digipeater) > NO-84 (PSK31 & Digipeater) > LO-90 (FM Uplink / Codec2 Downlink) > > Satellite details are available at https://www.amsat.org/two-way-satellites/ > . > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va3ma.va3ma at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 12:20:13 2018 From: va3ma.va3ma at gmail.com (VA3MA - Dan Howard) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 08:20:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1529742139.WdoHf4H3cXu2NWdoJf18g4@mf-smf-ucb034c1> References: <1529742139.WdoHf4H3cXu2NWdoJf18g4@mf-smf-ucb034c1> Message-ID: WARNING - this is a bad site - dont click on the link On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:23 AM Mike S via AMSAT-BB wrote: > http://famous.rebeccakirstin.com > > > Mike S > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- 73 Dan VA3MA From w4tas at gte.net Sat Jun 23 17:22:33 2018 From: w4tas at gte.net (Tony Stone) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 13:22:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] How are you doing? Message-ID: <1642dab3a3f-c8d-1585@webjasstg-vaa11.srv.aolmail.net> Same place on Parsons. I went over a couple of hours this morning and the place was packed for the picnic lunch. Looks like the same folks are still hard at work. Your shack is looking good. Congratulations. I am still working on the house and am close to getting up some weak signal antennas on 6,2, 220 and 432. I finally got the old antennas down. The new ones are HO loops. I will also put up a new discone. I have it ordered alreadly. I am thinking about a LPDA and a 1296 loop yagi on a small rotor also. These will work on the Florida Weak Signal group nets on 432 and 1296. I talked to AA4MD this week and he is still waiting on his 1296 transverter. The 600 watt amplifier has been delivered. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Mike Sprenger To: Tony Stone Sent: Sat, Jun 23, 2018 12:54 pm Subject: Re: How are you doing? Hi tony Where is the field day site ? Same place on parsons? I?m getting the shack put back together notice it?s now a closed room and new floor. Week of 4th will be putting upantennas Thanks, Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Tony Stone wrote: What's cooking Mike? Are you going to the Field Day site? We are hanging in here. Doing the weekly nets with the club on 2, 6, 10 and 80 meters. I have made my first contact on 160. It was with Ed down in Balm Florida. I think he does some AM on 80and160. With the help of my friend and ham radio buddy Andy, I finally have my beams down for 6, 2 and 70 cm. I am going back up with HO loops on 6, 2, 2 1/4 and 70cm. I hope to have my shop back to some semblance of order in a couple of weeks and can get on the air on these bands. I don't know how the 706 works on AM but I would like to find out. Maybe we can set up a schedule to try it out. I hope this finds you and your family well and that you are making good progress on your house plans. Tony From jhill_81 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 21:21:43 2018 From: jhill_81 at yahoo.com (Mr B r a d) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 21:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] recording of FD AO91 pass Saturday References: <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745@mail.yahoo.com> AO-91 Field Day on a FM Sat 6-23-2018- 2033z/ 130pm pdt http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav ko6kL From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Sat Jun 23 21:30:03 2018 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 16:30:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day Message-ID: <3EAF43F81FAC4AC482467B3CD9DCB68B@Ron8300PC> Amazing this year. Seems like every SSB FD station has a pileup. The FM sats are so busy as to be almost useless. What a change from a couple years ago. Great going! Ron W5RKN 1D STX From k.swaggart at charter.net Sat Jun 23 23:36:29 2018 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 16:36:29 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? Message-ID: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Are the DSLWP-2 elements used by GMAT available somewhere? Google wasn't any help this time. 73, Ken, W7KKE From mccardelm at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 23:45:36 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:45:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-175 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-175 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * AMSAT-NA President to attend AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 * AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Second call for Speakers * AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Speakers (to date) * K4R EL84 Grid Expedition - July 6-8 * South Africa Symposium Papers Posted * Call for Field Day Stories, Pictures * Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-175.01 ANS-175 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 175.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. June 24, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-175.01 AMSAT-NA President to attend AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 AMSAT-UK is very happy to announce that the dates of the next AMSAT-UK Colloquium will be October 13-14, 2018. The AMSAT-UK Colloquium, incorporated into the RSGB Convention, will take place at the Kents Hill Park Conference Centre, Timbold Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 6BZ. The AMSAT-UK Committee are pleased to announce that Joe Spier, K6WAO will be presenting a paper entitled '50 Years of AMSAT and Beyond' AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites, CubeSats, Nanosats, Space, High Altitude Balloons and associated activities, for this event. Those wishing to speak should contact Dave, G4DPZ, dave at g4dpz dot me dot uk AMSAT-UK Colloquium web page: https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Second call for Speakers This is the second call for speakers for the AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2018 which will be held on Saturday and Sunday, October 13-14 at the Kents Hill Park Conference Centre, Timbold Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 6BZ, United Kingdom. AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites, CubeSats, Nanosats, Space, High Altitude Balloons and associated activities, for this event. Those wishing to speak should contact Dave, G4DPZ: dave at g4dpz dot me dot uk Further information https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium [ANS thanks Dave G4DPZ for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Speakers (to date) On behalf of the AMSAT-UK Committee I am pleased to announce the list of speakers who have volunteered to present papers at the event (https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/ ) Dr, Chris Bridges, M0IEB (and students), Surrey Space Centre: "ESA ESEO Payloads" Matthew Cosby, Chief Scientist, Goonhilly Earth Station Ltd: "Goonhilly : Developing a global deep space communications network" The FUNcube Team: "JY1Sat , FUNcube Next" Peter Guelzow, DB2OS, AMSAT-DL: "Es'hail-2 and it's amateur radio payload" David Johnson, G4DPZ & Carlos Eavis, G3VHF: "An introduction to Amateur Satellites" Naomi Kurahara, Chief Exec, Infostellar JP: "Distributed Grounstations (StellarStation)" Ciaran Morgan, M0XTD, ARISS-UK (and school pupil): ARISS / STEM Outreach Prof. David Southwood, Imperial College London https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_College_London: "Cassini- Huygens: Odyssey to Saturn and Titan" Joe Spier, K6WAO, President, AMSAT-NA: "50 Years of AMSAT and Beyond" Iain Young, G7III: "Automated reception of FUNcube and Fox Telemetry" Details of when they will be presenting during the event will be published in the near future. (We still have 3 slots available if you want to volunteer a presentation. See above announcement) In addition to the presentations, the ARISS-UK team will be assembling a demonstration ground station with the same configuration as that used in schools contacts. [ANS thanks Dave, G4DPZ for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- K4R EL84 Grid Expedition - July 6-8 Between July 6-8, 2018, NJ4Y, N4ESS, and KE4AL will venture to Fort Jefferson on Garden Key, in the Dry Tortugas island chain. Their main purpose for the trip is to activate EL84, one of the maidenhead grids with the least land area of any in the CONUS, on satellites and 6m. The team wrote, "We are scheduled to arrive around 11am (1500z) on July 6th, and stay through 3pm (1900z) on the 8th. "Two complete satellite stations are planned, with capabilities on all current amateur satellites. Emphasis will be especially on the larger footprints of AO-7 and FO-29, but we will work as many passes as possible during our time on the island. With two experienced satellite operators who have activating nearly 80 combined grids on satellites in 15 different states, we think we've got a pretty good chance of success in getting EL84 in the logs of anyone who needs it! This includes Europe and South America - if you are in the outer reaches of the footprint between EL84np and your location, let them know ahead of the trip so they can plan some possible low elevation pass skeds! "The 6m station will consist of a 2 element 6m beam at ~20 feet, an FT-857 100w transmitter, and capabilities on SSB, CW, and digi modes, emphasizing the JT suite - FT8, JT65, and possibly some MSK144 if conditions allow. We will be there in peak E skip season, so keep your fingers crossed for some great band openings! "We will also operate on HF as time, band conditions, and battery power allow. This is secondary to the 6m and satellite ops, with no hard planned schedule, so keep your eye on the dx cluster for K4R if you need EL84 for the ARRL international grid chase. As on 6m, we will have capabilities on CW, SSB, and digi. "We will be communicating largely via twitter.com/K4R_EL84 while on the island, using a Garmin InReach messenger to post informa- tion about frequencies, modes, and pass schedules. This is an open, public twitter page, so you can view it even if you don't have a twitter account. If you do have an account, be sure and follow us before the trip so you can stay up to date! We are also working out details on a pilot station who can relay sked requests and information to us via the satellite messenger - stay tuned here for more details on that as the trip approaches. "All logs will be uploaded to LOTW as soon as possible after the trip. Cards will also be available upon request." Visit the team's web page http://k4r2018.com/ for their latest information. [ANS thanks the K4R Dry Tortugas Expedition for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- South Africa Symposium Papers Posted Papers from the South Africa AMSAT Symposium have been posted at: http://www.amsatsa.org.za/Space%20Symp2018.htm Find more news about AMSAT South Africa news on their homepage at: http://www.amsatsa.org.za/ [ANS thanks AMSAT SA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Field Day Stories, Pictures The AMSAT Journal is looking to publish interesting, unusual or humorous stories about the upcoming AMSAT Field Day event. Please send your experience with photos, if applicable, to journal at amsat dot org. [ANS thanks Joe KB6IGK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors The AMSAT News Service (ANS) is seeking volunteers to serve as rotating editors for its weekly newsletter. Editors work on a rotating schedule, each taking a different turn editing a specific week's newsletter as scheduled by the ANS Editor in Chief. Editors support each other by seeking and reporting to the Editor of the week, information and resources of interest to the AMSAT community. The number of newsletters assigned will be dependent upon the number of available editors at any given time. The average editor can expect to spend, on average, 4-5 hours for each newsletter, dependent on available material. Prospective editors are required to be AMSAT members in good standing and have a genuine interest in satellite operation and an understanding of AMSAT's mission. Former editing experience is a plus but not required. If interested, please submit an inquiry, including your contact information to ans-editor at amsat.com. [ANS thanks the ANS editors for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Recent Successful ARISS Contacts + 2018-06-19 14:20 UTC between Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (Exp 55), using ISS callsign OR4ISS, and Tehnicka ?kola Zajecar, Zajecar, Serbia. Contact was direct via YU1ACR. ARISS Mentor was Marko 9A8MM. Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + EN84 activation Monday June 25 Look for ops AA8CH and WW8W to be active from EN84 on Monday June 25th. Tentative plans include XWs in the 1300 hour, and the morning (our time) AO92s and the CAS4 passes. We might try AO07 and FO29 as well. Transmission on linears will be fixed frequency and tuning for callers. Bring your SAT gear to work with you if you need this grid. Email to AA8CH: aa8ch at aol dot com with any questions. QSOs uploaded to LOTW as always. [ANS thanks Chris AA8CH for the above information] + The next SSTV image downlinks are planned for June 29-July 1. These images will commemorate the various satellites that the ARISS team has developed and hand-deployed from the ISS. These will include the first satellite deployment from ISS: SuitSat-1/Radioskaf-1 which was deployed in February 2006. More details on this will be forthcoming as the date draws near. [ANS thanks Sergey Samburov, RV3DR for the above information] + The ANS Editors would like to thank and congratulate Lee McLamb KT4TZ for editing his 200th AMSAT News Service Bulletin when he published ANS 119 on April 19, 2018. He has subsequently published two more since then. [ANS thanks EMike AA8EM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org From w3ab at yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 23:50:21 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 16:50:21 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Message-ID: Ken, I C&P your title into Dr Google & got lots of info. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jun 23, 2018, 16:46, at 16:46, Ken Swaggart wrote: >Are the DSLWP-2 elements used by GMAT available somewhere? Google >wasn't any >help this time. > >73, >Ken, W7KKE > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k.swaggart at charter.net Sun Jun 24 00:26:18 2018 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 17:26:18 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Message-ID: <004b01d40b51$faa4d530$efee7f90$@charter.net> Thanks, The most recent elements I could find was a tweet posted by Scott Tilley on June 9th. https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1005575611627139072 I think there have been some changes as they refine the orbit, but I?ll use those unless something newer surfaces. I?d think there would be a project web page someplace with current data. 73, Ken, W7KKE From: W3AB/GEO Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 16:50 To: Ken Swaggart Cc: 'AMSAT BB' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? Ken, I C&P your title into Dr Google & got lots of info. ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO On Jun 23, 2018, at 16:46, Ken Swaggart > wrote: Are the DSLWP-2 elements used by GMAT available somewhere? Google wasn't any help this time. 73, Ken, W7KKE _____ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 02:10:51 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 21:10:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Kenwood TS2000 HF/VHF/UHF satellite radio Message-ID: I have for sale a Kenwood TS2000 radio that does 100 watts on HF, 6 meter, and 2 meters, and 50 watts on 70cm. It also does full duplex for the satellites. It has IF-DSP for noise reduction, auto notch, and narrow filtering, a built in TCXO for frequency stability, a built in CW memory keyer, and built in SWR meter. It is in good physical condition with a couple of scratches here and there. It is putting out rated power and works fine, except that every once in a great while the receive level will briefly drop. It will come right back and doesn't do it very often at all. It comes with the 4 button hand mic, a power cord, and the original box. I don't have a manual for it, but you can find those on line. I am asking $710 shipped for it which will also include paypal fees if you want to pay that way. This rig will let you do about everything in ham radio and is a good performer. I also have a Signalink USB digital modes interface and a rigblaster NOMIC interface for the TS2000 if you need one of those. 73 John AF5CC From hamsat at xs4all.nl Sun Jun 24 07:04:51 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 09:04:51 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Message-ID: Ken, You can always find the most recent LongJiang 2 orbital elements for GMAT in my GMAT script for LongJiang 2 here: https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang2_NYC.script For further information see my web page: https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html By the way, I wonder why some people still continue to use the old outdated name 'DSLWP' for this satellite. The only real official name is 'LongJiang 2'. To make it worse, several variations of the old ID are now used. While the original IDs for the two satellites were DSLWP A1 and A2, you now also see DSLWP 1 and 2, and DSLWP A and B, etc. All confusion can be avoided by simply using the official name: 'LongJiang 2'. https://gbtimes.com/change-4-lunar-far-side-satellite-named-magpie-bridge-from-folklore-tale-of-lovers-crossing-the-milky-way 73, Nico PA0DLO On 24-06-18 01:36, Ken Swaggart wrote: > Are the DSLWP-2 elements used by GMAT available somewhere? Google wasn't any > help this time. > > 73, > Ken, W7KKE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From vimone at alice.it Sun Jun 24 07:50:47 2018 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 09:50:47 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] WSJT & FCDPP Message-ID: Hi folks, please anybody can point me how to set the WSJT program to work with SDRSharp and the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus to decode the DSLWP satellite? I do not understand how to set the Audio ports. I have tried to set as Virtual Audio Cable but when i close and re open the program, i get the error: Error opening output audio stream. Errortext: Invalid number of channels Number: -9998 Error 2 in JTaudio, you will only be able to work offline. Please how to set? Any help will be really appreciated Thanks 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ******************************************* ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ******* ******************************************** From daniel at destevez.net Sun Jun 24 08:31:56 2018 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:31:56 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Message-ID: <5945b858-f484-a7e3-953c-d393c6b17ad1@destevez.net> El 24/06/18 a las 09:04, Nico Janssen escribi?: > > By the way, I wonder why some people still continue to use the old > outdated name 'DSLWP' for this satellite. The only real official name is > 'LongJiang 2'. Hi Nico, DSLWP-B is the name currently used by Wei Mingchuan BG2BHC and all the information from Harbin Institute of Technology. I guess that this is the development name for the satellite, as it refers the the interferometry scientific payload. The LongJiang name appeared only recently (shortly before launch I think), and I get the impression that this name was given for marketing reasons (but I might be wrong). In the same way, the Chang'e 4 relay was named Queqiao. So personally I'm sticking with DSLWP-B, as Wei does. 73, Dani. From daniel at destevez.net Sun Jun 24 08:26:37 2018 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:26:37 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Message-ID: <43b96a72-02f7-cf27-ba37-2634baff1aac@destevez.net> El 24/06/18 a las 01:36, Ken Swaggart escribi?: > Are the DSLWP-2 elements used by GMAT available somewhere? Google wasn't any > help this time. See this for elements based on orbit determination I'm doing using Scott Tilley's Doppler measurements: http://destevez.net/2018/06/update-on-dslwp-b-orbit-determination/ See this for elements based on the ECEF tracking files published by Wei Mingchuan: http://destevez.net/2018/06/dslwp-bs-journey-to-the-moon-part-iii/ 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From hamsat at xs4all.nl Sun Jun 24 09:32:32 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:32:32 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: <5945b858-f484-a7e3-953c-d393c6b17ad1@destevez.net> References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> <5945b858-f484-a7e3-953c-d393c6b17ad1@destevez.net> Message-ID: Hi Dani, The DSLWP names were indeed development names. As usual, most satellites have development names that are used pre-launch, and final names, that are used post-launch. So the DSLWP names were replaced by the official post-launch names LongJiang 1 and 2. This was done already in April: https://gbtimes.com/change-4-lunar-far-side-satellite-named-magpie-bridge-from-folklore-tale-of-lovers-crossing-the-milky-way In the Satellite Catalog you will find the LongJiang names. Obviously a lot of material, like software, was created before the launch, where the old name DSLWP was used. So I can imagine it is a lot of work to change that now. That is probably the reason the old name is still used now. The name DSLWP-B is certainly wrong. If you insist on using the old name, then you should use DSLWP A2. I'll stick to the official name LongJiang 2. 73, Nico PA0DLO On 24-06-18 10:31, Daniel Est?vez wrote: > El 24/06/18 a las 09:04, Nico Janssen escribi?: >> By the way, I wonder why some people still continue to use the old >> outdated name 'DSLWP' for this satellite. The only real official name is >> 'LongJiang 2'. > Hi Nico, > > DSLWP-B is the name currently used by Wei Mingchuan BG2BHC and all the > information from Harbin Institute of Technology. I guess that this is > the development name for the satellite, as it refers the the > interferometry scientific payload. > > The LongJiang name appeared only recently (shortly before launch I > think), and I get the impression that this name was given for marketing > reasons (but I might be wrong). In the same way, the Chang'e 4 relay was > named Queqiao. > > So personally I'm sticking with DSLWP-B, as Wei does. > > 73, > > Dani. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john280z at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 11:13:19 2018 From: john280z at gmail.com (John Mitchell) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 07:13:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? Message-ID: How about 6/22/18? https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/ (see the link to the Longjiang2 Script) johnm, KK4VUR From kk5do at arrl.net Sun Jun 24 16:45:50 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:45:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Message-ID: Well, this certainly was more fun than last year. I participated as W5SI with the Texas Emergency Amateur Communicators (TEAC) club in Kingwood, TX again this year. We doubled our satellite contacts from last year. Our station had an unobstructed view north and south. To the east, we were next to a building so zero visibility. To the west we were blocked the first 20 degrees or so. Had to wait for the highest passes. We started off field day working SO-50 and AO-91 on the first passes. Everything was done manually, radio tuning and LEO pack antenna turning. That makes it a little more fun as more people can be involved. Did not work a single station. By 4:00 PM I decided to head to the house. We had to have high elevation passes due to our location. When I returned an RV had moved along side the antennas. The antennas were moved another 20 feet away and had to place the radio in the back of my car as the coax was not long enough to reach where the radio was before. Next pass that was high for us was FO-29 in early evening around 8:30 PM. I have not worked an SSB satellite since 2001. Have been using the HT and mobile radio with the Arrow. But, heck it is like riding a bicycle. Found my downlink, cruised around and found W5RRR, my friend Andy, W5ACM, at the mic. We made a contact with them. Next good pass for us was SO-50 later in the evening around 10:30 PM. Unplugged the power and coax cables, closed up the car and went inside for some air conditioning. Time to work SO-50. A good 14 minute pass, we should make one contact, easy as pie. Hooked up the radio and started listening, nothing. Did not hear a peep (you can see where this is going?). Pass was about 90 degrees and still nothing. Someone looked down and said, the coax is not plugged in. Uh, huh, in my haste, forgot to plug them in. Quick which is 2m, which is 70cm. Hooked up and listening. Heard a familiar voice. Yes, last couple minutes of the pass, worked W5RRR with Andy once again at the mic. What are the chances? Out of all the stations on the air during field day, we wind up working not only someone else in the Houston area but the same station. Murphy tried to ruin our field day, but we got over on him. Those that were there to help and watch the satellite contacts enjoyed it and as I said, we did double our score from last year. We had 2 this year. Maybe next year will use Satpc32 for radio control and double this year's score. Be sure to get your scores into me. They are due by 11:59PM Central Time on July 9, 2018. A lot less time to submit than ARRL. We do this so that we can get our story out in the next issue of the AMSAT Journal. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From jhill_81 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 18:20:02 2018 From: jhill_81 at yahoo.com (Mr B r a d) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. ,?perhapswould be better to score points just for listening ONLY and getting call sign's + exchange from the bird?to get more operators HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without ?being able to hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange monitored...and 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys listening more and?less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first time... )?just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Sun Jun 24 18:23:50 2018 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 20:23:50 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite audio on 145.500 FM, related to ISS Message-ID: <20180624182350.GA22797@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> I read a thread on reddit amateurradio discussing whether an ISS downlink could be heard on 145.500: https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/8t9nsu/iss_repeater_active/ But I did not pay a lot of attention. Until this afternoon when I was in a park keeping an eye on my child while keeping an ear on some 2 meter frequencies with an HT. And indeed at some time 145.500 sprung to life with the kind of audio that I expect from satellite contacts (gridsquares, callsigns all in rapid succession). I checked Hamsatdroid and indeed an ISS pass was active. Signal reception was possible until a few seconds after LOS. Any ideas what's going on? Or what the uplink would be? It was good to hear actual contacts being made and not a 'zoo' like some of the other satellites on a Sunday afternoon. Koos PE4KH -- Koos van den Hout Homepage: https://idefix.net/ PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 Webprojects: Camp Wireless https://www.camp-wireless.org/ The Virtual Bookcase https://www.virtualbookcase.com/ From scott23192 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 18:41:44 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 14:41:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite audio on 145.500 FM, related to ISS In-Reply-To: <20180624182350.GA22797@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> References: <20180624182350.GA22797@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: The uplink was 437.050 w/ 67 Hz CTCSS. Just a reminder since that's 70cm to be sure to adjust for doppler! The stations that were on frequency sounded clear as a bell. So nice to work through the ISS again after all this time without a packet digipeater. 73! -Scott, K4KDR =============================== On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Koos van den Hout wrote: > > I read a thread on reddit amateurradio discussing whether an ISS downlink > could be heard on 145.500: > https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/8t9nsu/iss_repeater_active/ > > But I did not pay a lot of attention. Until this afternoon when I was in a > park keeping an eye on my child while keeping an ear on some 2 meter > frequencies with an HT. And indeed at some time 145.500 sprung to life with > the kind of audio that I expect from satellite contacts (gridsquares, > callsigns all in rapid succession). > > I checked Hamsatdroid and indeed an ISS pass was active. Signal reception > was possible until a few seconds after LOS. > > Any ideas what's going on? Or what the uplink would be? It was good to hear > actual contacts being made and not a 'zoo' like some of the other > satellites on a Sunday afternoon. > > Koos PE4KH > > -- > Koos van den Hout Homepage: https://idefix.net/ > PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 > Webprojects: Camp Wireless https://www.camp-wireless.org/ > The Virtual Bookcase https://www.virtualbookcase.com/ From g0kla at arrl.net Sun Jun 24 21:48:43 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 17:48:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT991A with Foxtelem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe, Check in the Radio's manual and see what frequency range the USB cable passes. All of the DUV data is below 200Hz and to decode we need the cable to pass audio down below 50Hz. Most radios filter that out because there is 50Hz noise from the PSU or other sources. This is one reason why an SDR is good for DUV. If you don't have the manual or can't work it out, then monitor the audio with a soundcard spectrum analysis program and see if the noise goes down to almost 0Hz. There is a picture of the spectrum in the FoxTelem manual as I remember. 73 Chris On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:00 AM, Joe Pereira wrote: > Hi Group, > > Helping a fellow Ham setting up his radio to decode the DUV from the Fox > birds. > > Has anyone had success using the Yaesu FT991A USB audio output into the Fox > Telemetry decoder. > > Any setup details would be much appreciated. > > TNX > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun Jun 24 22:06:32 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:06:32 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 Mode change Message-ID: <86f5131a-8024-8f2a-5a39-a8e872d7eaaf@btinternet.com> Hi All, Just to confirm that AO73/FUNcube-1 is now back in autonomous mode with high power tlm when in sunlight and with the transponder and low power tlm when in eclipse. You can expect this to be changed again on Friday evening (UTC time) best 73 Graham G3VZV From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 01:49:23 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:49:23 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <359750a1-8a15-5a77-0438-3a68581c58f0@gmail.com> Bruce wrote: > Well, this certainly was more fun than last year. So, "fun" has various definitions... Making contacts via satellite, unfortunately, was not among them for our club, W6EK, this year. This was our first "serious" attempt to get a satellite contact during Field Day. I, the "satellite guy", arrived at our Field Day site armed with my trusty FT-736R and its 1.2 ghz module, 17-turn helix antenna, Elk (plus an Arrow from another club member), and sufficient pass-prediction IT infrastructure to start my own data center, fully expecting to Ka-Ching! 100 points into the coffer within 10 minutes of Field Day starting. Got all set up, double-checked where North was (hind-sight, we were still wrong, but it didn't matter). Then I looked at the S-meter. The meter was indicating 20-over-9 noise over the entire 2 meter band. And, I'm going to hear a sub-one-watt signal from a thousand miles away in space? Yeah, right. Taking a sweep of the area, it appeared the noise peak was from a set of power lines that ran along one side of the Field Day site. I repositioned as far away as I could, but was still looking at several S-units of noise, depending on where the antennas pointed. Since many (most) of the satellites have their downlinks on 2 meters, this would set the theme for the event. How to defeat the noise? I'll spare you the lengthy saga. Bottom line, we were able to hear a few of the passes of a few of the satellites, for a few brief moments of clarity, but never could get through. Not enough power on the FM birds, nor apparently even on the linear ones either. While I did hear myself (barely) on FO-29, a complete contact was not to be made. We did get a good pass at AO-92's Model L/v in the late evening, aiming away from the power lines, but it was so loaded with doubles that we couldn't get through. Good to know that Mode L still has a strong installed base among hams, I suppose, but that didn't help our immediate problem. Our overall points strategy also included doing some Winlink packet messaging, but being 2-meter-based, that was thwarted too. In the end, I did manage to get a couple of messages out via APRS (shorter packets, better infrastructure, UI-based protocol, equals better chances), entered via the keypad of my Kenwood TH-D74. I think we can at least claim those. Strategy for next year? Perhaps an alternate site (the HF teams were somewhat affected too), or better antennas (narrower beamwidth, more side rejection), more power, and perhaps a chain saw for the enticingly-wooden utility poles. Just kidding on that last one... So, Drew and the AO-92 control ops, thank you for the opportunity to give L/v a shot. It certainly appears that it was a popular mode, and well worth the off-cycle mode switch. Maybe next year... Greg KO6TH From ka3hsw at att.net Mon Jun 25 04:10:59 2018 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:10:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] recording of FD AO91 pass Saturday In-Reply-To: <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lots of flagrant violators of the "one and done" rule on the FM birds. Same 5 or 6 stations monopolizing every pass... 73, de KA3HSW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 4:22 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] recording of FD AO91 pass Saturday AO-91 Field Day on a FM Sat 6-23-2018- 2033z/ 130pm pdt http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham -wav-.wav ko6kL From maccody at att.net Mon Jun 25 04:23:31 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:23:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> References: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for Winter Field Day.? For Winter Field Day, a station can net a 1500-point bonus for one satellite QSO.? There are no additional points for subsequent QSOs.? Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points. 73, Mac Cody / AE5PH On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: > AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. ,?perhapswould be better to score points just for listening ONLY and getting call sign's + exchange from the bird?to get more operators HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without ?being able to hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange monitored...and 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys listening more and?less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first time... )?just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav > > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 05:01:50 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 22:01:50 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: References: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3215ed19-9faf-356d-220d-fc472a5bffc8@gmail.com> The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation compared to the summer event. I don't think what worked for the winter event can scale to the summer one. Imagine the chaos that would be caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact in the summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of participants to attempt a contact. It would certainly bring additional attention and interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much. But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good; perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds. Greg KO6TH Mac A. Cody wrote: > One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for > Winter Field Day. For Winter Field Day, a station can net a 1500-point > bonus for one satellite QSO. There are no additional points for > subsequent QSOs. Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for > an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points. > > 73, > > Mac Cody / AE5PH > > > On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. >> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening ONLY and >> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators >> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without being able to >> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange monitored...and >> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys >> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first >> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. >> http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav >> >> >> http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From maccody at att.net Mon Jun 25 05:20:38 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 00:20:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: <3215ed19-9faf-356d-220d-fc472a5bffc8@gmail.com> References: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> <3215ed19-9faf-356d-220d-fc472a5bffc8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <84823809-7c14-edb5-091f-47db7813c470@att.net> Greg, Yeah.? Icertainly wouldn't make the bonus too much larger than 100 points.? Don't know how one would penalize for multiple QSOs. You might make the one you need and then another station would call you. I'd keep it at only one QSO allowed for the bonus and nothing more. This would allow for a station to work others to help them get their bonus, too, but only if that station wanted to help.? My guess is that a lot of stations would bow out once they got their one QSO. That, I hope, would free up the FM satellites fairly quickly. Mac / AE5PH On 06/25/2018 12:01 AM, Greg D wrote: > The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation > compared to the summer event. I don't think what worked for the winter > event can scale to the summer one. Imagine the chaos that would be > caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact in the > summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of participants to > attempt a contact. It would certainly bring additional attention and > interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much. > > But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good; > perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds. > > Greg KO6TH > > > Mac A. Cody wrote: >> One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for >> Winter Field Day. For Winter Field Day, a station can net a 1500-point >> bonus for one satellite QSO. There are no additional points for >> subsequent QSOs. Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for >> an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points. >> >> 73, >> >> Mac Cody / AE5PH >> >> >> On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: >>> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. >>> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening ONLY and >>> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators >>> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without being able to >>> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange monitored...and >>> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys >>> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first >>> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. >>> http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav >>> >>> >>> http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Mon Jun 25 07:39:08 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 03:39:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-25 07:30 UTC Message-ID: <16435e1ced3-c91-256e4@webjas-vae036.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-25 07:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-25 07:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1232. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1181. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jun 25 11:24:40 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:24:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: <84823809-7c14-edb5-091f-47db7813c470@att.net> References: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> <3215ed19-9faf-356d-220d-fc472a5bffc8@gmail.com> <84823809-7c14-edb5-091f-47db7813c470@att.net> Message-ID: The rules already limit FM QSOs to one. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 01:21 Mac A. Cody wrote: > Greg, > > Yeah. Icertainly wouldn't make the bonus too much larger than 100 > points. Don't know how one would penalize for multiple QSOs. You > might make the one you need and then another station would call you. > I'd keep it at only one QSO allowed for the bonus and nothing more. > This would allow for a station to work others to help them get their > bonus, too, but only if that station wanted to help. My guess is that > a lot of stations would bow out once they got their one QSO. That, I > hope, would free up the FM satellites fairly quickly. > > Mac / AE5PH > > On 06/25/2018 12:01 AM, Greg D wrote: > > The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation > > compared to the summer event. I don't think what worked for the winter > > event can scale to the summer one. Imagine the chaos that would be > > caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact in the > > summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of participants to > > attempt a contact. It would certainly bring additional attention and > > interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much. > > > > But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good; > > perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds. > > > > Greg KO6TH > > > > > > Mac A. Cody wrote: > >> One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for > >> Winter Field Day. For Winter Field Day, a station can net a 1500-point > >> bonus for one satellite QSO. There are no additional points for > >> subsequent QSOs. Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for > >> an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Mac Cody / AE5PH > >> > >> > >> On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >>> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. > >>> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening ONLY and > >>> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators > >>> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without being able to > >>> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange monitored...and > >>> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys > >>> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first > >>> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. > >>> > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >>> of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>> program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >> of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ns3l at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 11:28:31 2018 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Great Field Day weekend..!!! References: <1595177238.2112272.1529926111763.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1595177238.2112272.1529926111763@mail.yahoo.com> Great Field Day weekend. Participated with my local club DLARC here in Northampton County, Pa. Mainly worked Satellite & HF. Got the Sat bonus for them in the first hour of FD on AO-7. Gave many demonstrations & several sat q's. Worked linear sats only. Steve NS3L (AKA W3OK) From aa5uk at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 12:20:49 2018 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: References: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> <3215ed19-9faf-356d-220d-fc472a5bffc8@gmail.com> <84823809-7c14-edb5-091f-47db7813c470@att.net> Message-ID: <906142052.1844386.1529929249238@mail.yahoo.com> Unfortunately I heard way too many groups working multiple stations on FM satellites clearly violating that rule during FD. 73, Adrian AA5UK On Monday, June 25, 2018, 6:27:08 AM CDT, Paul Stoetzer wrote: The rules already limit FM QSOs to one. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 01:21 Mac A. Cody wrote: > Greg, > > Yeah.? Icertainly wouldn't make the bonus too much larger than 100 > points.? Don't know how one would penalize for multiple QSOs. You > might make the one you need and then another station would call you. > I'd keep it at only one QSO allowed for the bonus and nothing more. > This would allow for a station to work others to help them get their > bonus, too, but only if that station wanted to help.? My guess is that > a lot of stations would bow out once they got their one QSO. That, I > hope, would free up the FM satellites fairly quickly. > > Mac / AE5PH > > On 06/25/2018 12:01 AM, Greg D wrote: > > The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation > > compared to the summer event.? I don't think what worked for the winter > > event can scale to the summer one.? Imagine the chaos that would be > > caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact in the > > summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of participants to > > attempt a contact.? It would certainly bring additional attention and > > interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much. > > > > But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good; > > perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds. > > > > Greg? KO6TH > > > > > > Mac A. Cody wrote: > >> One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for > >> Winter Field Day.? For Winter Field Day, a station can net a 1500-point > >> bonus for one satellite QSO.? There are no additional points for > >> subsequent QSOs.? Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for > >> an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Mac Cody / AE5PH > >> > >> > >> On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >>> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. > >>> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening ONLY and > >>> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators > >>> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without? being able to > >>> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange monitored...and > >>> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys > >>> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first > >>> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. > >>> > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >>> of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>> program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >> of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From matthew at mrstevens.net Mon Jun 25 12:55:16 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 08:55:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] recording of FD AO91 pass Saturday In-Reply-To: <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1345588593.1584989.1529788903745@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That sounds like a typical Tuesday afternoon east coast AO91 pass ;-) - Matthew nj4y On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: > AO-91 Field Day on a FM Sat 6-23-2018- 2033z/ 130pm pdt > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav > > ko6kL > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From royldean at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:27:06 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:27:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] recording of FD AO91 pass Saturday Message-ID: The APRS packets are a nice touch. (sarcasm) --Roy K3RLD > > That sounds like a typical Tuesday afternoon east coast AO91 pass ;-) - > Matthew nj4y > From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:41:22 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 08:41:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cayman on Satellite Message-ID: Cayman opportunity ... K3TRM re-tweeted by Daily DX: I will be operating as ZF2RM from Cayman Brac, Cayman Islands (Grid Square FK09) between June 24 - July 7, 2018. Activity will be on 40-10M using SSB, CW, Digital (RTTY & FT8) and satellite. (thanks to Daily DX) -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Jun 25 13:45:20 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:45:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany on 27 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 10:32 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between DP0ISS from the ISS and DL0IL/DL0SGH. The contact should be audible over Germany and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. School Story: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium Das Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium war eine der ersten Schulen, die dem MINT-EC - einem nationalen Netzwerk naturwissenschaftlicher Exzellenz-Schulen - beigetreten ist und bietet das Internationale Abitur (International Baccalaureate) an. Ein weiterer Schwerpunkt ist der franz?sisch-bilinguale Zweig. Wir haben sichergestellt, dass die naturwissenschaftliche und sprachliche Ausrichtung gleichzeitig verfolgt werden k?nnen, da die Begabungen der Sch?ler in diesen Bereichen oft korrespondieren. Das Leitmotiv des WHG ist: Gemeinschaft entwickeln, Pers?nlichkeit st?rken, gerne und erfolgreich lernen. Im MINT-Bereich werden zun?chst solide Grundlagen in den F?chern Mathematik, Physik, Chemie und Biologie geschaffen, aber auch Zusatzkurse in Astronomie und Informatik angeboten. In den fach?bergreifenden Differenzierungskursen Science und Physik-Technik der 8. und 9. Klasse liegt der Schwerpunkt auf praktischer Arbeit und Anwendungen. Die Sch?ler arbeiten in Kleingruppen, suchen sich ihr eigenes Forschungsprojekt und stellen es am Ende auf einer "Science Fair" einer Jury vor. Au?erdem gibt es ein vielf?ltiges AG-Angebot: Die Jazzband und die Theater AG haben vielbeachtete Auftritte in der Region und die Astronomie AG hat ein ma?stabsgetreues Planetensystem auf den Schulhof gezeichnet und betreibt Mond- und Planetenfotografie. In den franz?sisch-bilingualen Klassen gibt es zus?tzliche Franz?sischstunden und die F?cher Geschichte, Erdkunde und Politik werden auf Franz?sisch unterrichtet. Mit ihrem Abitur haben die Sch?ler dieses Zweiges dann Zugang zu franz?sischen Universit?ten. Ein weiterer Schwerpunkt ist die Sozialerziehung. So machen z.B. in Klasse 9 alle Sch?ler ein zweiw?chiges Sozialpraktikum in Behindertenwerkst?tten, Pflegeheimen oder Kinderg?rten, um fr?hzeitig ihre soziale Verantwortung und Hilfsbereitschaft zu f?rdern. Translated: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium The Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium in Leverkusen was among the first schools that joined the national MINT-EC network of excellence schools in science and is an IB world school offering its students the International Baccalaureate (IB). Another focus is set on language in our French-German bilingual program. Care has been taken that both degrees may be pursued simultaneously as we have found that one talent is often connected to the other. The WHG mission is: To build and develop a social community, to strengthen personality and character, and to enjoy and succeed in learning. In STEM classes, students focus on core subjects like mathematics, physics, chemistry and biology with additional optional courses in astronomy and computer science. In 8th and 9th grade, students take science classes covering interdisciplinary subjects with a special application focus. In small groups, students define and research their own projects, which they present to a jury from local industry during a science fair at the end of 9th grade. In addition, there is a diverse choice of project courses (AGs): Our students may join the Jazz band or the Theater AG, which are well-known for their performances. The Astronomy AG has constructed a large, scaled version of the solar system in the schoolyard and has specialized in moon and planet photography. In the French-bilingual class, more lessons are allocated to French, and history, geography and politics are taught in French. With their high school diplomas, students in this branch are granted access to French universities. Complementary to science and language education, WHG also focuses on social education: In 9th grade, students participate in a mandatory practical training at a social organization (kindergarten, hospital, retirement or nursing home, work with handicapped or homeless people) to help develop social responsibility. Schickhardt-Gymnasium Unsere Schule, das Schickhardt-Gymnasium Herrenberg, befindet sich in einer kleinen Stadt s?dlich von Stuttgart. Diese liegt in einer weltweit anerkannten Technologie-Region, bekannt u. a. f?r ihre Automobilindustrie und Informationstechnik, sowie f?r ihre altehrw?rdigen Universit?ten und ihre Geschichte. Neben den ?blichen F?chern, wie z. B. Mathematik, Deutsch, Englisch, Sport, Kunst, Musik und Sozialwissenschaften, spiegelt sich das in den Profilen unserer Schule wider, aus denen die Sch?ler_innen ihren Schwerpunkt w?hlen d?rfen: Auf der einen Seite das Sprachen-Profil mit Franz?sisch, Spanisch und Latein als Wahlm?glichkeit. Auf der anderen Seite das naturwissenschaftliche Profil mit den F?chern NwT (Naturwissenschaft und Technik), Biologie, Physik, Informatik und Chemie. Beide Profile sind dar?ber hinaus sichtbar in den angebotenen Arbeitsgemeinschaften und Austauschprogrammen: z. B. Aerospace Lab, Robotik, ISS, Theater, Musical, Druck und das KuCa (organisiert kulturelle Veranstaltungen - in dem unter anderem Professor Dr. Heinz Voggenreiter einen Vortrag halten wird). Desweiteren gibt es soziale Projekte, wie z. B. Fairtrade, Model United Nations, Schule gegen Rassismus und Casa-Alianza. Austauschprogramme existieren mit Schweden, Frankreich, den USA, Botswana und Ungarn. Das Schickhardt-Gymnasium mit seinen rund 750 Sch?ler_innen und 70 Lehrer_innen ist stolz Teil des ARISS-Projektes zu werden. Unser Projekt-Team besteht aus Sch?ler_innen unterschiedlicher Alterstufen, angetrieben durch ihre jeweils eigenen Interessen in Weltraum, Technik, Raumfahrt, Journalismus und vielen weiteren Spezialgebieten, um das Projekt Wirklichkeit werden zu lassen. Schickhardt-Gymnasium Our school, the Schickhardt-Gymnasium, is located in Herrenberg which is a small city south of Stuttgart. This is in the heart of a region known nationally and internationally for technology (i. e. automobiles) and IT advancement but also for its old universities and its history. Beyond the regular subjects like Maths, German, English, P.E., Arts, and social sciences, this is reflected in the profiles our school offers from which the students can choose their focus. On the the one hand, the language profile with French, Spanish and Latin as options. On the other hand, we have the profile of natural sciences and technology, i. e. NwT (science and technology), Biology, Physics, IT and Chemistry. Both profiles are also visible in the clubs and exchanges which are offered: Aerospace Lab, Robotics, ISS, Theatre, Musical, Print and the KuCa (which organizes cultural events - among others a presentation by Professor Dr. Heinz Voggenreiter), among others. Students are also dedicated to social projects, e. g. Fairtrade, Model United Nations, schools against racism and the aid-organization Casa-Alianza. Exchanges go to Sweden, France, the USA, Botswana, and Hungary. This secondary school with about 750 students and 70 teachers is excited to be taking part in the ARISS program. The project team consists of members of different age levels motivated by their interests in outer space, technology, space travel, journalism, and many other talents which are contributing to making this project a reality. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. Wie ver?ndert sich der menschliche K?rper im Weltall? 2. Ver?ndert sich auch Ihr Biorhythmus im All und k?nnen Sie gut schlafen? 3. Stimmt es, dass man im Weltraum nicht r?lpsen kann? 4. Welche allt?glichen Dinge und Gewohnheiten vermissen Sie am meisten? 5. Kann man eine Kerze in der Raumstation anz?nden, wenn ja wie sieht sie dann aus? 6. Sieht man an Silvester das Feuerwerk von der ISS aus? 7. Finden Sie die Idee Mond und Mars in naher Zukunft zu besiedeln realistisch? 8. Haben Sie schon einmal etwas au?erhalb der ISS verloren? 9. Was halten Sie von der Entsorgung von M?ll, z. B. von Elektroschrott, im Weltraum? 10. Was w?rden Sie einen Astronauten fragen, wenn Sie selber nicht Astronaut w?ren? 11. Wie sauber ist die Luft auf der ISS, muss man Staubwischen? 12. Womit hat Ihr Assistent CIMON Sie am meisten ?berrascht? 13. Wie f?hlt es sich an, einen Raumspaziergang zu machen? 14. Was war das Au?ergew?hnlichste, was sie im All erlebt haben? 15. Wie schwer ist es, sich nach einem l?ngeren Aufenthalt im All wieder an das Leben auf der Erde zu gew?hnen? 16. Wenn Sie die Wahl h?tten zwischen der bew?hrten Sojus-Kapsel oder der neuen Dragon-V2, welche w?rden Sie f?r einen Flug zur ISS bevorzugen? 17. Wie schnell ist Ihr Internetanschluss auf der ISS? 18. Was w?rde bei einem akuten medizinischen Notfall, z. B. einer Blinddarmentz?ndung, passieren? 19. Kann man direkt von der ISS aus zum Mond fliegen? 20. Was ist Ihr Lieblingsessen auf der Raumstation? Translated: 1. How does the human body change in outer space? 2. Does your biorhythm change in space and can you sleep well? 3. Is it true that people cannot belch in space? 4. Which everyday commodities and habits do you miss most? 5. Is it possible to light a candle in the space station, and if so, what does it look like? 6. Do you see the fireworks on New Year's Eve on the ISS? 7. Do you think that the idea of populating the Moon and Mars in near future is realistic? 8. Have you ever lost anything outside the ISS? 9. What do you think about the disposal of waste, e. g. electronic scrap, in outer space? 10. What would you ask an astronaut if you were not an astronaut yourself? 11. How clean is the air inside the ISS? Do you need to do dusting? 12. What did your assistant CIMON surprise you the most with? 13. What does it feel like to go on a spacewalk? 14. What was your most exceptional experience in outer space? 15. How difficult is it to readjust to life on earth after a long stay in space? 16. Which spaceship would you take to fly to the ISS if you had the choice between the time-tested Soyuz capsule or the new Dragon V2? 17. How fast is your internet connection on the ISS? 18. What would happen in case of an acute medical emergency, e. g. appendicitis? 19. Is it possible to fly directly to the moon from the ISS? 20. What is your favorite food on the space station? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jun 25 15:29:20 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:29:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD Message-ID: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Well first of all the article that appeared in QST a little while back made it sound too darn easy, which yes it is, but not on field Day. The problem with Satellites and field day in my mind it relates to the way the rules are set up. Yes ARRL and AMSAT both stipulate that only one FM QSO per FM Satellite per field day station. The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out. On 91, I threw my call out twice made one contact and was gone. I spent most of my effort on linear satellites and ignored other FM passes. I do think you should look at this in a positive light. The growth in the number of amateur radio satellite has spurred a renewed interest in this aspect of a hobby and thus we have a potential easier time promoting AMSAT to more and more hams. Field day is a great place to do that because most of the people that come out are either already into amateur radio or new to the hobby and get excited about interest areas and that?s where AMSAT people need to get out of their house and to local clubs and field day set ups to do what we do will help to educate people and maybe save some of the bad behavior on the FM birds. I had my share of issues and problems this weekend, but I had fun and in ONLY six hours of operating beat my score from last year so that was a win. I also got to do some education too and that helps the future of our aspect of the hobby. 73. Tom. N5HYP From dgbartholomew at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 15:55:56 2018 From: dgbartholomew at gmail.com (David Bartholomew) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 08:55:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) Message-ID: A club member from W6SD asked me if I could come to their FD site in Granada Hills CA to do the satellite contact for them. I said I would do it. I had planned ahead, figured out a list of the better passes of the FM sats and FO-29. Got set up and tried SO-50. We were fortunate. It was coming in from the south and the footprint didn't reach a lot of land yet. I heard WD9EWK on there and figured, "If anyone can work us through all of this, he can!" And he did. Well done. I had a small group around me as I did this. N7JY was holding the Elk and his Android tablet, watching the sat path and doing the aiming. I posted a picture on Twitter @ad7db. Few of the group actually heard the live exchange come back, but I did. I always record the pass, so, after we got the contact, I turned off the radio and played it back for them. It took a couple of plays to convince them, yes, we got the contact. "There he is coming back to us, right... there!" The next day I visited another group's FD site. I was dismayed to find they'd made lots of satellite contacts, even doing a couple on a final pass before the QRT call. What happened with the "one and done" rule? "7.3.7.1 - Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite." Dave AD7DB From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jun 25 15:58:16 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:58:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: " I was dismayed to find they'd made lots of satellite contacts, even doing a couple on a final pass before the QRT call." There's nothing wrong with making lots of satellite contacts! The station that won AMSAT Field Day last year made 199 of them last year, in fact. The one and done rule only applies to FM satellites. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:55 AM, David Bartholomew wrote: > A club member from W6SD asked me if I could come to their FD site in > Granada Hills CA to do the satellite contact for them. I said I would do > it. > I had planned ahead, figured out a list of the better passes of the FM sats > and FO-29. > Got set up and tried SO-50. We were fortunate. It was coming in from the > south and the footprint didn't reach a lot of land yet. > I heard WD9EWK on there and figured, "If anyone can work us through all of > this, he can!" > And he did. Well done. > > I had a small group around me as I did this. N7JY was holding the Elk and > his Android tablet, watching the sat path and doing the aiming. I posted a > picture on Twitter @ad7db. > > Few of the group actually heard the live exchange come back, but I did. > I always record the pass, so, after we got the contact, I turned off the > radio and played it back for them. It took a couple of plays to convince > them, yes, we got the contact. "There he is coming back to us, right... > there!" > > The next day I visited another group's FD site. I was dismayed to find > they'd made lots of satellite contacts, even doing a couple on a final pass > before the QRT call. What happened with the "one and done" rule? "7.3.7.1 > - Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM > satellite." > > Dave AD7DB > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kx9x at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 16:06:20 2018 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:06:20 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi Tom- I wrote the article that appeared in the June QST. The point of my article was to explain that making FM satellite QSOs during Field Day was, in fact, very difficult if you didn?t practice in advance. I made an effort to hammer that point home several times. I?m curious how you think the article could have been improved. Thanks! Sean KX9X Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Tom Schuessler wrote: > > Well first of all the article that appeared in QST a little while back made it sound too darn easy, which yes it is, but not on field Day. > > The problem with Satellites and field day in my mind it relates to the way the rules are set up. Yes ARRL and AMSAT both stipulate that only one FM QSO per FM Satellite per field day station. The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out. On 91, I threw my call out twice made one contact and was gone. I spent most of my effort on linear satellites and ignored other FM passes. > > I do think you should look at this in a positive light. The growth in the number of amateur radio satellite has spurred a renewed interest in this aspect of a hobby and thus we have a potential easier time promoting AMSAT to more and more hams. Field day is a great place to do that because most of the people that come out are either already into amateur radio or new to the hobby and get excited about interest areas and that?s where AMSAT people need to get out of their house and to local clubs and field day set ups to do what we do will help to educate people and maybe save some of the bad behavior on the FM birds. > > I had my share of issues and problems this weekend, but I had fun and in ONLY six hours of operating beat my score from last year so that was a win. I also got to do some education too and that helps the future of our aspect of the hobby. > > 73. Tom. N5HYP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Jun 25 16:37:06 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:37:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave! Thanks again for the SO-50 QSO on Saturday morning early in Field Day. Even with a pass starting to the south, with most of the footprint over Mexico and the Pacific at that point, it wasn't an easy QSO to make. Like you, I played my MP3 recording back a couple of times to make sure I copied your information. It was there, and the QSO went in the log. After I worked you, I worked two other stations that called - Ron W5RKN in Texas, followed by W6KA operated by Tom WA0POD. As I prepare my log for both ARRL and AMSAT, these two QSOs won't go in my score. I will also have some non-scoring QSOs on the western AO-91 pass just over an hour later - I worked KB6LTY very early in that pass, then K6FW and K5RWK (this was the QSO for their 100-point bonus) before that pass simply became unworkable due to the number of high-power signals slamming the satellite. I had exactly one QSO on the AO-85 pass just after 0100 UTC Saturday evening, so I don't have to worry about the 1-QSO rule there. I have logged multiple QSOs on FM satellites during Field Days in the past, and I don't count them in my score. I list them on the submissions I make to ARRL and AMSAT. In the several years I have done this, I have never seen any objections to this come from either entity. I am choosing to make non-scoring QSOs, instead of - for example - going back to 20m or 40m and making QSOs for points for ARRL Field Day on those bands. As for the general theme of many messages on here since the end of Field Day, I guess it wouldn't be a Field Day among satellite operators without all the hand-wringing about the situation on the FM satellites. I'm not sure I heard "lots" of QSOs on any of the V/U or U/V FM satellites - I heard some, but heard more CQing, "QRZ", or on one AO-85 pass a station IDing so often it was basically a CQ call without saying CQ. Were there QSOs being made into Saturday night and into Sunday morning? I didn't hear many QSOs on the western AO-92 pass yesterday, just before 1800 UTC, that I heard from home. I don't think a "net control" style of operation would work for very long on FM satellite passes during Field Day, even if one station was willing to make some non-scoring QSOs in the interest of helping other stations make QSOs for points (or even the 100-point bonus). I'd rather hear that, than hear stations aimlessly calling or transmitting, with no QSOs being made. Unfortunately, so many try satellites for the first time on Field Day weekend, even with helpful articles in advance of the weekend like the one KX9X wrote for QST. Away from the FM satellites, the SSB satellites were better, but sometimes transponders got overloaded. The best options for me to make QSOs were on the western AO-92 L/V pass on Saturday morning, followed by the NO-84 passes late Saturday afternoon. The first of the NO-84 passes, that went over much of the continental USA, saw only one QSO completed using the 145.825 MHz digipeater. One QSO!!! The later NO-84 pass out west saw WD9EWK and 3 other stations (AI6DO, KB6LTY, KK6OTJ) making QSOs with each other - with room for more activity. Unfortunately, FalconSat-3's passes didn't line up with my time in northern Arizona. I wonder if anyone made QSOs through that digipeater. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:55 PM, David Bartholomew wrote: > A club member from W6SD asked me if I could come to their FD site in > Granada Hills CA to do the satellite contact for them. I said I would do > it. > I had planned ahead, figured out a list of the better passes of the FM sats > and FO-29. > Got set up and tried SO-50. We were fortunate. It was coming in from the > south and the footprint didn't reach a lot of land yet. > I heard WD9EWK on there and figured, "If anyone can work us through all of > this, he can!" > And he did. Well done. > > I had a small group around me as I did this. N7JY was holding the Elk and > his Android tablet, watching the sat path and doing the aiming. I posted a > picture on Twitter @ad7db. > > Few of the group actually heard the live exchange come back, but I did. > I always record the pass, so, after we got the contact, I turned off the > radio and played it back for them. It took a couple of plays to convince > them, yes, we got the contact. "There he is coming back to us, right... > there!" > > The next day I visited another group's FD site. I was dismayed to find > they'd made lots of satellite contacts, even doing a couple on a final pass > before the QRT call. What happened with the "one and done" rule? "7.3.7.1 > - Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM > satellite." > > Dave AD7DB > From kk5do at amsat.org Mon Jun 25 16:53:15 2018 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:53:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be a net control type station and work every station you want. You would only be able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those trying to make the 100 point satellite bonus. We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single pass. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: Hi Dave! Thanks again for the SO-50 QSO on Saturday morning early in Field Day. Even with a pass starting to the south, with most of the footprint over Mexico and the Pacific at that point, it wasn't an easy QSO to make. Like you, I played my MP3 recording back a couple of times to make sure I copied your information. It was there, and the QSO went in the log. After I worked you, I worked two other stations that called - Ron W5RKN in Texas, followed by W6KA operated by Tom WA0POD. As I prepare my log for both ARRL and AMSAT, these two QSOs won't go in my score. I will also have some non-scoring QSOs on the western AO-91 pass just over an hour later - I worked KB6LTY very early in that pass, then K6FW and K5RWK (this was the QSO for their 100-point bonus) before that pass simply became unworkable due to the number of high-power signals slamming the satellite. I had exactly one QSO on the AO-85 pass just after 0100 UTC Saturday evening, so I don't have to worry about the 1-QSO rule there. I have logged multiple QSOs on FM satellites during Field Days in the past, and I don't count them in my score. I list them on the submissions I make to ARRL and AMSAT. In the several years I have done this, I have never seen any objections to this come from either entity. I am choosing to make non-scoring QSOs, instead of - for example - going back to 20m or 40m and making QSOs for points for ARRL Field Day on those bands. As for the general theme of many messages on here since the end of Field Day, I guess it wouldn't be a Field Day among satellite operators without all the hand-wringing about the situation on the FM satellites. I'm not sure I heard "lots" of QSOs on any of the V/U or U/V FM satellites - I heard some, but heard more CQing, "QRZ", or on one AO-85 pass a station IDing so often it was basically a CQ call without saying CQ. Were there QSOs being made into Saturday night and into Sunday morning? I didn't hear many QSOs on the western AO-92 pass yesterday, just before 1800 UTC, that I heard from home. From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Jun 25 17:05:49 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:05:49 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: Hi Bruce! Based on the passes I heard and worked, if there was a station strong enough to get through and complete QSOs, others hoped that station would stick around and make more QSOs. Otherwise, why would anyone call a station just after that station completed a QSO? That was the case for me on the two passes I mentioned - I complete one QSO, then others called me. I could have gone silent and not answered any of them, but I decided to make the non-scoring QSOs, and one of those non-scoring QSOs was the bonus-scoring QSO one club was hoping to make. What I did on the SO-50 and AO-91 passes was, in effect, the "net control" station you mentioned. When I get my Field Day report to you, you will see those non-scoring contacts noted - just as I have done for most of the past few years. I'm not saying the scoring should change for FM satellites. Short of declaring FM satellites off-limits like ARRL does with the WARC bands and 60m for its Field Day, it seems like the situation won't change. Or have AO-92 in L-band all weekend. :-) 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Bruce wrote: > In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be > a net control type station and work every station you want. You would only > be able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those > trying to make the 100 point satellite bonus. > > We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and > both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby > maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single > pass. > > 73...bruce > > From KB2HSH at amsat.org Mon Jun 25 17:35:09 2018 From: KB2HSH at amsat.org (John Marranca, Jr) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:35:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: Icom IC490 Message-ID: Happy Day After FD, all. Does anyone have an Icom IC490 they are interested in selling? I am assembling a "W2RS KISS station", and already have the IC290....just need the 70cm model now. 73 de KB2HSH From mccardelm at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 17:44:37 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:44:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: I think the ARRL thoroughly understands the impact of making contacts via satellites on field day. Satellites contacts aren?t intended for racking up contacts, that is why they offer a 100 point bonus for making any satellite contact. As a simulated emergency, Field Day is realistic because of the chaos. It teaches patience and persistence. It isn?t meant to be easy, it?s meant to be fun while learning. I would, however, suggest a slight rule change for FM birds. Allow two consecutive contacts by making a contact then serving as the next person in control of the frequency. Example, I break through and complete a call. I announce my call and ask QRZ, pick a call out of the pile-up, complete the call and hand things over to the new guy and clear out. Each subsequent contact would be handled in the same way. This would create a little order and give folks a fighting chance to break through. 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Tom Schuessler wrote: > > Well first of all the article that appeared in QST a little while back made it sound too darn easy, which yes it is, but not on field Day. > > The problem with Satellites and field day in my mind it relates to the way the rules are set up. Yes ARRL and AMSAT both stipulate that only one FM QSO per FM Satellite per field day station. The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out. On 91, I threw my call out twice made one contact and was gone. I spent most of my effort on linear satellites and ignored other FM passes. > > I do think you should look at this in a positive light. The growth in the number of amateur radio satellite has spurred a renewed interest in this aspect of a hobby and thus we have a potential easier time promoting AMSAT to more and more hams. Field day is a great place to do that because most of the people that come out are either already into amateur radio or new to the hobby and get excited about interest areas and that?s where AMSAT people need to get out of their house and to local clubs and field day set ups to do what we do will help to educate people and maybe save some of the bad behavior on the FM birds. > > I had my share of issues and problems this weekend, but I had fun and in ONLY six hours of operating beat my score from last year so that was a win. I also got to do some education too and that helps the future of our aspect of the hobby. > > 73. Tom. N5HYP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 18:31:51 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 14:31:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: I don't think the below is true: "The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out" "7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite." which is referenced here: "Satellite QSOs also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately on the summary sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit unless prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1" 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:31 Tom Schuessler wrote: > > Well first of all the article that appeared in QST a little while back made it sound too darn easy, which yes it is, but not on field Day. > > The problem with Satellites and field day in my mind it relates to the way the rules are set up. Yes ARRL and AMSAT both stipulate that only one FM QSO per FM Satellite per field day station. The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out. On 91, I threw my call out twice made one contact and was gone. I spent most of my effort on linear satellites and ignored other FM passes. > > I do think you should look at this in a positive light. The growth in the number of amateur radio satellite has spurred a renewed interest in this aspect of a hobby and thus we have a potential easier time promoting AMSAT to more and more hams. Field day is a great place to do that because most of the people that come out are either already into amateur radio or new to the hobby and get excited about interest areas and that?s where AMSAT people need to get out of their house and to local clubs and field day set ups to do what we do will help to educate people and maybe save some of the bad behavior on the FM birds. > > I had my share of issues and problems this weekend, but I had fun and in ONLY six hours of operating beat my score from last year so that was a win. I also got to do some education too and that helps the future of our aspect of the hobby. > > 73. Tom. N5HYP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dgbartholomew at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 18:39:11 2018 From: dgbartholomew at gmail.com (David Bartholomew) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:39:11 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) Message-ID: Guys, guys, I didn't intend to start an argument, that was not my intent at all. Maybe "dismayed" wasn't the right term to use. My interpretation of the rules was "do one FM contact and that's all." The spirit of it was to help keep the satellite clear for others to make their contact. I thought the spirit of this was to also apply to the other sats to help reduce crowding on them, even though the rule didn't say so. As it happened, I was fortunate to get a good contact on the first sat we tried and then I got off of there. The guy at the other FD station had mentioned how many FM sat contacts he'd made during FD and I saw him make more. I didn't say anything, figured it was his choice. Besides, he had such a nice setup with three antennas and a rotator, and all of that for one contact? Why not make more and get on more passes. It just wasn't what I would have done. 73... Dave AD7DB From burns at fisher.cc Mon Jun 25 18:51:15 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 14:51:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: So EMike, I think you are proposing that one should only INITIATE two calls (and one of them counts for your 100pt bonus). The rest of the time you would have people be willing to respond to a call initiated by someone else, but not be the one to effectively call CQ/QRZ? All of these count as contacts on a band, and you are also doing a service for those initiating. That would sort of answer the question that came to my mind in all of this: If each organization only made one satellite call, then you quickly run out of participants to answer the call :-) 73, Burns WB1FJ From ka9p at aol.com Mon Jun 25 20:32:51 2018 From: ka9p at aol.com (Scott McDonald) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:32:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1331F049-934A-4972-8DBB-38BD44290ADA@aol.com> Not sure which is the point of confusion here, but when I queried the ARRL last week before Field Day I was told that ?Satellite? was a band and that Mode was irrelevant ( because I wanted to see if I could work a station on both SSB and Cw.) I was a little surprised by that as we?ve never duped cw against ssb on an HF band. But in everyone?s defense, the ARRL Rules for sat ops are a bit cryptic and might benefit from a little tweaking by an AMSAT board member perhaps.. 73 Scott Ka9p Sent from my iPad > On Jun 25, 2018, at 1:31 PM, John Brier wrote: > > I don't think the below is true: > > "The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM > or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder > trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the > field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out" > > "7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single > channel FM satellite." > > which is referenced here: > > "Satellite QSOs also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed > separately on the summary sheet as a separate "band." You do not > receive an additional bonus for contacting different satellites, > though the additional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit unless > prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1" > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:31 Tom Schuessler wrote: >> >> Well first of all the article that appeared in QST a little while back made it sound too darn easy, which yes it is, but not on field Day. >> >> The problem with Satellites and field day in my mind it relates to the way the rules are set up. Yes ARRL and AMSAT both stipulate that only one FM QSO per FM Satellite per field day station. The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out. On 91, I threw my call out twice made one contact and was gone. I spent most of my effort on linear satellites and ignored other FM passes. >> >> I do think you should look at this in a positive light. The growth in the number of amateur radio satellite has spurred a renewed interest in this aspect of a hobby and thus we have a potential easier time promoting AMSAT to more and more hams. Field day is a great place to do that because most of the people that come out are either already into amateur radio or new to the hobby and get excited about interest areas and that?s where AMSAT people need to get out of their house and to local clubs and field day set ups to do what we do will help to educate people and maybe save some of the bad behavior on the FM birds. >> >> I had my share of issues and problems this weekend, but I had fun and in ONLY six hours of operating beat my score from last year so that was a win. I also got to do some education too and that helps the future of our aspect of the hobby. >> >> 73. Tom. N5HYP >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pedro at dutrasousa.name Mon Jun 25 20:38:58 2018 From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (Pedro Sousa) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:38:58 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] HM76 Message-ID: <0d748bed-a7a6-a76c-8868-0d5f341bf019@dutrasousa.name> Hi all, As a reminder, my HM76 operation is due to take place from June 27th 09:00 through 28th 16:00. I'll be FM full-duplex and SSB half-duplex equipped. As far as I know this grid, that covers most of Santa Maria island, has been only active when Yuri is around. 73 Pedro CU2ZG --- Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de v?rus pelo software antiv?rus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From matthew at mrstevens.net Mon Jun 25 19:49:17 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:49:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: The first AO91 pass after start time on saturday, I just listened to N5AT (op KG5CCI) doing an awesome job as what you have called the "net control" station. I have a feeling half the people on the pass wouldn't have made a qso at all if it hadn't been for Dave calling them amid all the "CQ field day" and callsign-dropping, keying down, and aprs packets (why? Who knows lol). And Dave was operating the same as I did this weekend, a handheld antenna and manually tuned rig. I have mixed feelings about the one-Q FM sat rule - it makes sense in a way, but in my experience one competent, experienced op (keyword there is competent..) on the FM sats can make a lot of FM-only HT ops very very happy, scoring them their 100 point bonus they promised for their clubs! I guess the rule does (hopefully) prevent the uber-stations from tying up the pass working each other to pad scores, but it doesn't do anything about the massive QRM that always seems to happen on FM. I'm glad to hear a few guys on there who are worried less about their own scores, and more about handing out contacts to those that really need them on Field Day. I pretty much just hung out on linears this year, operating for about an hour and a half total on sats while waiting for 6m to open.It was a lot of fun, and by and large I thought most everyone I heard was doing a great job. There was only a few stations that never seemed to hear when they were called. Overall, good job to all the amsat ops, and I'm looking forward to next year! 73, - Matthew nj4y On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi Bruce! > > Based on the passes I heard and worked, if there was a > station strong enough to get through and complete QSOs, > others hoped that station would stick around and make > more QSOs. Otherwise, why would anyone call a station > just after that station completed a QSO? That was the > case for me on the two passes I mentioned - I complete > one QSO, then others called me. I could have gone silent > and not answered any of them, but I decided to make the > non-scoring QSOs, and one of those non-scoring QSOs > was the bonus-scoring QSO one club was hoping to make. > What I did on the SO-50 and AO-91 passes was, in effect, > the "net control" station you mentioned. When I get my > Field Day report to you, you will see those non-scoring > contacts noted - just as I have done for most of the past > few years. > > I'm not saying the scoring should change for FM satellites. > Short of declaring FM satellites off-limits like ARRL does > with the WARC bands and 60m for its Field Day, it seems > like the situation won't change. Or have AO-92 in L-band > all weekend. :-) > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Bruce wrote: > >> In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be >> a net control type station and work every station you want. You would only >> be able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those >> trying to make the 100 point satellite bonus. >> >> We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and >> both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby >> maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single >> pass. >> >> 73...bruce >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From matthew at mrstevens.net Mon Jun 25 20:23:11 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:23:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: The first AO91 pass after start time on saturday, I just listened to N5AT (op KG5CCI) doing an awesome job as what you have called the "net control" station. I have a feeling half the people on the pass wouldn't have made a qso at all if it hadn't been for Dave calling them amid all the "CQ field day" and callsign-dropping, keying down, and aprs packets (why? Who knows lol). And Dave was operating the same as I did this weekend, a handheld antenna and manually tuned rig. I have mixed feelings about the one-Q FM sat rule - it makes sense in a way, but in my experience one competent, experienced op (keyword there is competent..) on the FM sats can make a lot of FM-only HT ops very very happy, scoring them their 100 point bonus they promised for their clubs! I guess the rule does (hopefully) prevent the uber-stations from tying up the pass working each other to pad scores, but it doesn't do anything about the massive QRM that always seems to happen on FM. I'm glad to hear a few guys on there who are worried less about their own scores, and more about handing out contacts to those that really need them on Field Day. I pretty much just hung out on linears this year, operating for about an hour and a half total on sats while waiting for 6m to open.It was a lot of fun, and by and large I thought most everyone I heard was doing a great job. There was only a few stations that never seemed to hear when they were called. Overall, good job to all the amsat ops, and I'm looking forward to next year! 73, - Matthew nj4y On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi Bruce! > > Based on the passes I heard and worked, if there was a > station strong enough to get through and complete QSOs, > others hoped that station would stick around and make > more QSOs. Otherwise, why would anyone call a station > just after that station completed a QSO? That was the > case for me on the two passes I mentioned - I complete > one QSO, then others called me. I could have gone silent > and not answered any of them, but I decided to make the > non-scoring QSOs, and one of those non-scoring QSOs > was the bonus-scoring QSO one club was hoping to make. > What I did on the SO-50 and AO-91 passes was, in effect, > the "net control" station you mentioned. When I get my > Field Day report to you, you will see those non-scoring > contacts noted - just as I have done for most of the past > few years. > > I'm not saying the scoring should change for FM satellites. > Short of declaring FM satellites off-limits like ARRL does > with the WARC bands and 60m for its Field Day, it seems > like the situation won't change. Or have AO-92 in L-band > all weekend. :-) > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Bruce wrote: > >> In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be >> a net control type station and work every station you want. You would only >> be able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those >> trying to make the 100 point satellite bonus. >> >> We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and >> both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby >> maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single >> pass. >> >> 73...bruce >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at amsat.org Mon Jun 25 21:13:59 2018 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:13:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> A net control type op is perfectly acceptable. Only thing is they can only score 1 FM contact per FM satellite. If they wish to work every SO-50 pass and work every station, they can do it. What ever works. It is easier to have an ht and Arrow on field day rather than an all mode radio. That is why the FM sats are so busy. The rules are there to try and get more to operate SSB/CW instead of FM. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Matthew Stevens wrote: The first AO91 pass after start time on saturday, I just listened to N5AT (op KG5CCI) doing an awesome job as what you have called the "net control" station. I have a feeling half the people on the pass wouldn't have made a qso at all if it hadn't been for Dave calling them amid all the "CQ field day" and callsign-dropping, keying down, and aprs packets (why? Who knows lol). And Dave was operating the same as I did this weekend, a handheld antenna and manually tuned rig. I have mixed feelings about the one-Q FM sat rule - it makes sense in a way, but in my experience one competent, experienced op (keyword there is competent..) on the FM sats can make a lot of FM-only HT ops very very happy, scoring them their 100 point bonus they promised for their clubs! I guess the rule does (hopefully) prevent the uber-stations from tying up the pass working each other to pad scores, but it doesn't do anything about the massive QRM that always seems to happen on FM. I'm glad to hear a few guys on there who are worried less about their own scores, and more about handing out contacts to those that really need them on Field Day. I pretty much just hung out on linears this year, operating for about an hour and a half total on sats while waiting for 6m to open.It was a lot of fun, and by and large I thought most everyone I heard was doing a great job. There was only a few stations that never seemed to hear when they were called. Overall, good job to all the amsat ops, and I'm looking forward to next year! 73, - Matthew nj4y On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi Bruce! > > Based on the passes I heard and worked, if there was a > station strong enough to get through and complete QSOs, > others hoped that station would stick around and make > more QSOs. Otherwise, why would anyone call a station > just after that station completed a QSO? That was the From dave at druidnetworks.com Mon Jun 25 22:15:01 2018 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:15:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> Message-ID: So since I was mentioned, and it sure feels like people are whining about me, I feel I better speak up. Believe or not, there was a method to my madness. Yes, I was operating as N5AT and yes I made more than 1 contact on an FM bird. Stay with me here.. I originally did not plan to operate field day. Since getting my 488 last year there's really nothing left for me to chase, I still rove - but besides that I don't get on the birds much these days. Being the local 'Satellite Guy' though, multiple clubs had asked me to come operate for them this FD, but only 1 actually wanted something other than their 100 points. The ARES club here in central Arkansas had a plan to bring in a large number of kids and public officials, and they wanted me to perform a demonstration of Satellite capabilities rather than just pad their score for them. This seemed like a noble cause, so I decided to give them a hand. I made plans to operate 1 FM pass and 1 linear pass, just to show the folks how they are different, when the crowd was going to be there around 1900z. AO91 was up first, and I did indeed make 3 contacts on the first AO-91 pass at 1845z. I was on a tall hill with a great view to the south, and the pass was ascending. The first station I heard about 10 seconds after AOS that seemed to have a clue was W5RRR - I called them, got the QSL, got the 100 points, and a decent sized (1, 2, 300 or so people) crowd of hams, 4-H kids, and Boy Scouts all cheered. Only a few had ever seen a satellite contact, and everyone was very happy. Immediately afterwards I got a called by a bunch of other stations, I ignored them - then I heard TI2CDA call me. Charlie is an all around good guy and a rare DX to hear on the Satellites, and I believe he's also an FM only op. I also knew he would be approaching LOS and was probably calling me to get HIS bonus, so I went ahead and answered him. That group of people that were excited about making a single contact on the birds? Now they just saw me make a DX contact. They were ecstatic. After wrapping up with Charlie, YS1MS called me. I took the same approach with Jose - I knew he was approaching the end of his window, and he might be hunting for his bonus, and he was FM only. I went ahead and answered him too. Other US stations kept calling me, but I ignored them all, they still had plenty of time to make contacts, and I was already getting peppered with hoots, hollers and questions from the audience. After the chaos of AO-91, I prepped to get ready for CAS-4B at 1929z. This time, I pulled out the stops. I tuned up quickly at AOS, and started calling CQ with all the watts, smack dab in the middle of the passband. There were stations all around me, but none of them were hearing each other.. as opposed to them, I could actually hear. I worked KB6LTY quickly, followed by WD9EWK, and then just kept following the bird east. 12 minutes later I lost the bird behind some buildings after working a VE2. 14 total stations logged, California to Quebec, in 1 pass. The crowd went nuts. I spent the next 2 hours showing local hams how to improve their arrows by using things like good coax, and a couple of the kids mentioned how sitting around with headphones turning dials was boring, but working satellites looked like fun. After that I packed up my stuff and headed back home, and didn't make another contact til after 1800z on Sunday. If anyone has an issue with me making more than 1 contact on an FM bird, they can get bent. I'm perfectly aware of the rules, and I didn't have the N5AT loggers claim 'extra credit' for my 2 extra QSOs. What I did do though is use the long lost art of situational awareness to further the community goals and impress on some kids how fun satellites can be. I calculated 85 passes between 1800 on Saturday and 1800 on Sunday. If my (or ANY operator's) 2 minutes of air time answering some DX caused you to miss out on your 100 points, then maybe you should try practicing, using better gear, and just generally not sucking before whining on the bulletin board. -Dave, KG5CCI From mccardelm at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 22:18:46 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:18:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: Burns, I?m not sure we follow each other. But I think we do. One, 100 point bonus per entity for a satellite contact no matter how many are made on different satellites. In my example you call CQ or QRZ, I return my call, you pick it out and answer, I confirm. You confirm. I then call CQ or QRZ, Someone else returns my call, I pick it out and answer, They confirm. I confirm. They then CQ or QRZ etc. Points, 1 x 100 point bonus. Two, one point contact points. What I see is everyone calling at once. Somebody, maybe, gets through by calling someone they heard and continue if they don?t get stepped on. Clarify? 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > > So EMike, I think you are proposing that one should only INITIATE two calls (and one of them counts for your 100pt bonus). The rest of the time you would have people be willing to respond to a call initiated by someone else, but not be the one to effectively call CQ/QRZ? All of these count as contacts on a band, and you are also doing a service for those initiating. That would sort of answer the question that came to my mind in all of this: If each organization only made one satellite call, then you quickly run out of participants to answer the call :-) > > 73, > > Burns > WB1FJ > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Jun 25 22:28:54 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:28:54 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: <1331F049-934A-4972-8DBB-38BD44290ADA@aol.com> References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> <1331F049-934A-4972-8DBB-38BD44290ADA@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi! Just like with any of the other bands used for Field Day, ARRL's Field Day rules provide for 3 modes for use with the "Satellite" band - CW, Digital, and Phone. There is no separation in the Phone category for SSB vs. FM, nor is there any separation in the Digital category between packet, RTTY, PSK31, FT8, or any of the other digital modes. Where AMSAT's Field Day rules allow me to work a station across different satellites, and possibly even different modes on the same satellite (CW vs. SSB, or packet vs. PSK31 for NO-84), ARRL's rules don't go to that detail. I know that I will not be able to count several of my satellite contacts for the ARRL Field Day submission. For example, I worked KB6LTY on AO-91 in FM, CAS-4B in SSB, and NO-84 in packet. For ARRL's rules, one of the non-packet QSOs is a dupe, since there is only a "phone" mode for satellites - just like there is only a "phone" mode for each HF band. Again, this is something I've dealt with for many years, including not scoring contacts that exceed the one-QSO-per-FM-satellite rule, or contacts that are considered dupes under one set of Field Day rules (usually the ARRL's rules). It really isn't hard to deal with, but there are differences between the two rulesets that have to be addressed - if you plan on making an entry for your Field Day effort. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Scott McDonald via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Not sure which is the point of confusion here, but when I queried the ARRL > last week before Field Day I was told that ?Satellite? was a band and that > Mode was irrelevant ( because I wanted to see if I could work a station on > both SSB and Cw.) > > From burns at fisher.cc Mon Jun 25 22:39:43 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:39:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: EMike, I think we are on the same page. All I was trying to say was that if everyone only talks to one other person and then goes to 20m or whatever, then pretty quickly there is no one there to answer someone who is trying to get his 100 points. So your idea, I think, is good. Initiate only 1 or 2 (rather than crowding the bird with your call repeated over and over) but be there to answer someone else. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 6:18 PM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > Burns, > > I?m not sure we follow each other. But I think we do. > > One, 100 point bonus per entity for a satellite contact no matter how many > are made on different satellites. > In my example you call CQ or QRZ, I return my call, you pick it out and > answer, I confirm. You confirm. I then call CQ or QRZ, Someone else returns > my call, I pick it out and answer, They confirm. I confirm. They then CQ or > QRZ etc. > Points, 1 x 100 point bonus. Two, one point contact points. > What I see is everyone calling at once. Somebody, maybe, gets through by > calling someone they heard and continue if they don?t get stepped on. > > Clarify? > 73, > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 25, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > > > > So EMike, I think you are proposing that one should only INITIATE two > calls (and one of them counts for your 100pt bonus). The rest of the time > you would have people be willing to respond to a call initiated by someone > else, but not be the one to effectively call CQ/QRZ? All of these count as > contacts on a band, and you are also doing a service for those initiating. > That would sort of answer the question that came to my mind in all of > this: If each organization only made one satellite call, then you quickly > run out of participants to answer the call :-) > > > > 73, > > > > Burns > > WB1FJ > > > From daron at wilson.org Mon Jun 25 22:31:39 2018 From: daron at wilson.org (Daron Wilson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:31:39 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: <026b01d40cd4$4a118810$de349830$@org> I too tried a couple passes, and found the typical poor operating procedures to be a major part of the problem. 1. On the FM sats I really see no reason for calling CQ, yet we get it during field day like crazy. 2. If I throw my call out with my exchange as 2A OR for example, I'm clearly looking for the contact, I don't need your grid square and you don't need mine to complete the exchange. 3. Personally, I try for two contacts in case the first one fails to log it or something and I miss the points. But, just trying to rack up a bunch of one pointers while there are many looking for a 100 point contact isn't very helpful. It is different than most other modes as the coverage area changes by the second. It seems reasonable that if you get in solid and someone hears you, that others may call you as well, so probably better to stand by the mic in case anyone else calls you rather than call CQ or anything. Just my two cents, still a fun mode, just a circus on field day and lots of not so good operating. 73 ------------- One, 100 point bonus per entity for a satellite contact no matter how many are made on different satellites. In my example you call CQ or QRZ, I return my call, you pick it out and answer, I confirm. You confirm. I then call CQ or QRZ, Someone else returns my call, I pick it out and answer, They confirm. I confirm. They then CQ or QRZ etc. Points, 1 x 100 point bonus. Two, one point contact points. What I see is everyone calling at once. Somebody, maybe, gets through by calling someone they heard and continue if they don?t get stepped on. From occamrazr at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 22:47:55 2018 From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:47:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 observer changes unexpectedly Message-ID: <0C4865C9-985F-463E-89AE-CDD663AFB53E@yahoo.com> Fresh install of ver. 12.8d on Win 10 Running for first time and doing the following: Enter lon & lat (in my case -84.3, 36.0) Register > enter data and password > get password is OK! Tap OK, program runs, Obs. (in lower left corner) reads -84.3/36.0 All looks good, do nothing else but quit. Run program again, get Obs. 8.9/51.9 ? why? Did this several times with same results. What am I doing wrong? Butch K8KO From jamesduffey at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 23:28:07 2018 From: jamesduffey at comcast.net (JamesDuffey) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:28:07 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> Message-ID: Several points: 1. Field Day is not a contest, it is an activity. 2. In reference to point 1, logs are not scored or checked by the ARRL, so rules such as only one QSO per FM bird don?t work except for the people who only make one FM QSO per bird. The rule can?t work because it isn?t enforced. 3. Making more than a single FM QSO per bird but not including them in your scoring does little to help with the mess on the FM birds during Field Day. One is still violating the rule and adding to the chaos, perhaps with good intentions, but still... 4. The linear satellites are a much more efficient use of satellite resources than the FM birds. Field Day is no exception to this rule, but, due to the concentration of activity the problem is exaggerated. We should expend some great effort during the rest of the year to get people to use the linear birds and to move from FM to linear sats. Those of us proficient on the linear birds should avoid the FM birds during FD and encourage others to do the same. ?Here, let me show you how to make straight forward QSOes without all this mess.? 5. Yes, I realize that perhaps the FM birds utilize the user resources more effectively, at least during under utilized or only slightly over utilized conditions, offering people with simple rigs to get on the sats, but I think it important in the long run to encourage people to move off the FM birds to the linear birds. I understand the economic arguments against this, but, especially on Field Day, the reasons to favor linear sats over the FM birds is very clear, and the rest of the year is the same, but perhaps with less intense examples. 6. What happens on the FM birds is an example of ?The Tragedy of the Commons?, a scientific, economic, and sociological principle about what happens to shared resources. Every Field Day satellite operator should read the following before operating the FM birds on Field Day: < https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons > < https://archive.org/details/twolecturesonch00lloygoog > < http://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/162/3859/1243.full.pdf > You should probably have learned this in college, but I have heard that this concept is falling out of favor and not being taught with as much fervor as it once was. 7. There isn?t anything in the solution to the Field Day FM satellite situation that we didn?t learn from our families, in pre-school, kindergarten, Sunday school, Saturday school, catechism, or interacting with our neighbors, both as kids and adults. If your mother was a ham, what would she say about your behavior on the FM birds? Yes, my mom was a ham, albeit briefly. 8. If you know someone who made more than one QSO per FM satellite, you might want to gently remind them that their doin so takes away the ability of others to use the satellite and accomplishes nothing tangible for them. Peer interaction is a good way to deal with this problem. These comments are intended to be general and not target any individual. I am responding to the ongoing discussion on the AMSAT BB, which inspired these comments, so it may seem like I am criticizing particular individuals, some who have contributed to this discussion, but I am not. Those who have written have inspired my thoughts on this topic and I understand almost all of the arguments made. I sympathize with many of them, but that won?t solve the problem. Operate responsibly and share the resources wisely. Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey KK6MC James Duffey KK6MC Cedar Crest NM > From wageners at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 23:35:57 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:35:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT change the satellite rules for FD! Message-ID: Hi folks, Every year we have the same issue. Folks who want to collect their "100" points for the contest, folks who just want to operate on the satellites, folks who want to use FD for demonstration and education and all the above plus more. I have never understood why ARRL or whoever made FD a "competitive" thing. FD is so much more. If we (and AMSAT) take the satellites out of the equation (no more points), we can still have fun, educate, show off on FD and more. Yes, some satellites based on location, pass, time etc will always be congested, others will not. At least the pressure of getting the "100 points" is off and the non-pressure fun/hobby part gets back in the equation. Personally, I don't need "100" points at FD, I like have folks observing, learning and enjoying the hobby and test the equipment. That's my FD spirit. FD is about to get out, working with others, invite the community to see what we are doing, learn how our equipment works etc. Let's start an FD "transformation" and get rid of "points" for satellites :-) My 2 cents and honest opinion :-) 73, Stefan VE4NSA From jamesduffey at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 23:43:25 2018 From: jamesduffey at comcast.net (JamesDuffey) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:43:25 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: <002f01d40cdd$65fb70f0$31f252d0$@charter.net> References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> <002f01d40cdd$65fb70f0$31f252d0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <58E467F5-24B1-49DA-8549-2DFDD7BCFCC0@comcast.net> Ted - I apologize to you and others on the BB I have offendewith my tone. That was not my intent. Thank you for pointing it out. It detracted from my message and I regret that almost as much as offending you. I will better edit my posts in the future. Thanks - Duffey KK6MC James Duffey KK6MC Cedar Crest NM > On Jun 25, 2018, at 17:36, Ted Krempa wrote: > > "You should probably have learned this in college" > > James, why do you feel compelled to lecture the users as if they were freshmen at the local junior college? > > Your dissertation is not needed nor appreciated as to your tone. Many users of this group have not attended college and that does not makes them any less worthy of your egghead wisdom. > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of JamesDuffey > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 4:28 PM > To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) > > Several points: > > 1. Field Day is not a contest, it is an activity. > > 2. In reference to point 1, logs are not scored or checked by the ARRL, so rules such as only one QSO per FM bird don?t work except for the people who only make one FM QSO per bird. The rule can?t work because it isn?t enforced. > > 3. Making more than a single FM QSO per bird but not including them in your scoring does little to help with the mess on the FM birds during Field Day. One is still violating the rule and adding to the chaos, perhaps with good intentions, but still... > > 4. The linear satellites are a much more efficient use of satellite resources than the FM birds. Field Day is no exception to this rule, but, due to the concentration of activity the problem is exaggerated. We should expend some great effort during the rest of the year to get people to use the linear birds and to move from FM to linear sats. Those of us proficient on the linear birds should avoid the FM birds during FD and encourage others to do the same. ?Here, let me show you how to make straight forward QSOes without all this mess.? > > 5. Yes, I realize that perhaps the FM birds utilize the user resources more effectively, at least during under utilized or only slightly over utilized conditions, offering people with simple rigs to get on the sats, but I think it important in the long run to encourage people to move off the FM birds to the linear birds. I understand the economic arguments against this, but, especially on Field Day, the reasons to favor linear sats over the FM birds is very clear, and the rest of the year is the same, but perhaps with less intense examples. > > 6. What happens on the FM birds is an example of ?The Tragedy of the Commons?, a scientific, economic, and sociological principle about what happens to shared resources. > > Every Field Day satellite operator should read the following before operating the FM birds on Field Day: > > < https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons > > > < https://archive.org/details/twolecturesonch00lloygoog > > > < http://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/162/3859/1243.full.pdf > > > You should probably have learned this in college, but I have heard that this concept is falling out of favor and not being taught with as much fervor as it once was. > > 7. There isn?t anything in the solution to the Field Day FM satellite situation that we didn?t learn from our families, in pre-school, kindergarten, Sunday school, Saturday school, catechism, or interacting with our neighbors, both as kids and adults. If your mother was a ham, what would she say about your behavior on the FM birds? Yes, my mom was a ham, albeit briefly. > > 8. If you know someone who made more than one QSO per FM satellite, you might want to gently remind them that their doin so takes away the ability of others to use the satellite and accomplishes nothing tangible for them. Peer interaction is a good way to deal with this problem. > > These comments are intended to be general and not target any individual. I am responding to the ongoing discussion on the AMSAT BB, which inspired these comments, so it may seem like I am criticizing particular individuals, some who have contributed to this discussion, but I am not. Those who have written have inspired my thoughts on this topic and I understand almost all of the arguments made. I sympathize with many of them, but that won?t solve the problem. > > Operate responsibly and share the resources wisely. Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey KK6MC > > James Duffey KK6MC > Cedar Crest NM > >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k7trkradio at charter.net Mon Jun 25 23:36:53 2018 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:36:53 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> Message-ID: <002f01d40cdd$65fb70f0$31f252d0$@charter.net> "You should probably have learned this in college" James, why do you feel compelled to lecture the users as if they were freshmen at the local junior college? Your dissertation is not needed nor appreciated as to your tone. Many users of this group have not attended college and that does not make them any less worthy of your egghead wisdom. 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of JamesDuffey Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 4:28 PM To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) Several points: 1. Field Day is not a contest, it is an activity. 2. In reference to point 1, logs are not scored or checked by the ARRL, so rules such as only one QSO per FM bird don?t work except for the people who only make one FM QSO per bird. The rule can?t work because it isn?t enforced. 3. Making more than a single FM QSO per bird but not including them in your scoring does little to help with the mess on the FM birds during Field Day. One is still violating the rule and adding to the chaos, perhaps with good intentions, but still... 4. The linear satellites are a much more efficient use of satellite resources than the FM birds. Field Day is no exception to this rule, but, due to the concentration of activity the problem is exaggerated. We should expend some great effort during the rest of the year to get people to use the linear birds and to move from FM to linear sats. Those of us proficient on the linear birds should avoid the FM birds during FD and encourage others to do the same. ?Here, let me show you how to make straight forward QSOes without all this mess.? 5. Yes, I realize that perhaps the FM birds utilize the user resources more effectively, at least during under utilized or only slightly over utilized conditions, offering people with simple rigs to get on the sats, but I think it important in the long run to encourage people to move off the FM birds to the linear birds. I understand the economic arguments against this, but, especially on Field Day, the reasons to favor linear sats over the FM birds is very clear, and the rest of the year is the same, but perhaps with less intense examples. 6. What happens on the FM birds is an example of ?The Tragedy of the Commons?, a scientific, economic, and sociological principle about what happens to shared resources. Every Field Day satellite operator should read the following before operating the FM birds on Field Day: < https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons > < https://archive.org/details/twolecturesonch00lloygoog > < http://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/162/3859/1243.full.pdf > You should probably have learned this in college, but I have heard that this concept is falling out of favor and not being taught with as much fervor as it once was. 7. There isn?t anything in the solution to the Field Day FM satellite situation that we didn?t learn from our families, in pre-school, kindergarten, Sunday school, Saturday school, catechism, or interacting with our neighbors, both as kids and adults. If your mother was a ham, what would she say about your behavior on the FM birds? Yes, my mom was a ham, albeit briefly. 8. If you know someone who made more than one QSO per FM satellite, you might want to gently remind them that their doin so takes away the ability of others to use the satellite and accomplishes nothing tangible for them. Peer interaction is a good way to deal with this problem. These comments are intended to be general and not target any individual. I am responding to the ongoing discussion on the AMSAT BB, which inspired these comments, so it may seem like I am criticizing particular individuals, some who have contributed to this discussion, but I am not. Those who have written have inspired my thoughts on this topic and I understand almost all of the arguments made. I sympathize with many of them, but that won?t solve the problem. Operate responsibly and share the resources wisely. Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey KK6MC James Duffey KK6MC Cedar Crest NM > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jun 25 23:53:35 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:53:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: <007501d40cdf$bb6cff70$3246fe50$@verizon.net> Yes the rules do definitely state the 1 contact rule for FM satellites. What you do here are operators who still try to rack up multiple contacts on the FM sats during FD and that only adds to the overload problem. My point was that since it is a "Honor system" type of thing. Someone running 150 watts into a decent beam can easily make multiple QSOs on an FM FD pass and all his QSOs still count for point (1 point only, but points just the same) and in ARRL FD rules, there is no way to disincentivize those operators from doing that. Now since the AMSAT rules do ask you to list contacts by satellite, it is easy to see if someone is running more than one contact on an FM bird. We won't see that reflected in ARRL rules so no use getting to hyped up over the issue. There really will never be a good solution to this. Just hope that more stations get on the linear birds during FD, and than everyone can have lots of fun with lower frustration levels and more completed contacts. -----Original Message----- From: John Brier Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 1:32 PM To: Tom Schuessler Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD I don't think the below is true: "The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out" "7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite." which is referenced here: "Satellite QSOs also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately on the summary sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit unless prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1" 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:31 Tom Schuessler wrote: > > Well first of all the article that appeared in QST a little while back made it sound too darn easy, which yes it is, but not on field Day. > > The problem with Satellites and field day in my mind it relates to the way the rules are set up. Yes ARRL and AMSAT both stipulate that only one FM QSO per FM Satellite per field day station. The issue is in ARRL rules is that all Satellite contacts whether FM or SSB are seen as the same, then if somebody does hog the transponder trying to get multiple contacts on an FM bird, there is no way on the field day logging rules to throw those extra contacts out. On 91, I threw my call out twice made one contact and was gone. I spent most of my effort on linear satellites and ignored other FM passes. > > I do think you should look at this in a positive light. The growth in the number of amateur radio satellite has spurred a renewed interest in this aspect of a hobby and thus we have a potential easier time promoting AMSAT to more and more hams. Field day is a great place to do that because most of the people that come out are either already into amateur radio or new to the hobby and get excited about interest areas and that?s where AMSAT people need to get out of their house and to local clubs and field day set ups to do what we do will help to educate people and maybe save some of the bad behavior on the FM birds. > > I had my share of issues and problems this weekend, but I had fun and in ONLY six hours of operating beat my score from last year so that was a win. I also got to do some education too and that helps the future of our aspect of the hobby. > > 73. Tom. N5HYP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dgbartholomew at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 00:07:00 2018 From: dgbartholomew at gmail.com (David Bartholomew) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:07:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) Message-ID: For Dave KG5CCI, I read through the whole thing you wrote and I cannot fault you at all. You did the right thing all the way through. I guess it all depends on the situation. Maybe by next year I hope to be better skilled on linear sats. Thanks and 73, Dave AD7DB From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jun 26 00:09:06 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:09:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: Excellent condensation of what we were saying Greg, not to mention the additional concept of a net control getting extra points, as well as the need for training. Now--in a normal emergency net, a net control is pre-designated (I think). How do you think we could do that for FD while still being in the spirit of "practice for the real thing"? I have no good answer. Good discussion! Burns WB1FJ On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Greg D wrote: > Tossing in my $.02 here, for what it's worth... TL:DR: it's not the > rules, it the training that we need to fix. > > From this chair, the issue isn't so much about the points as about getting > the most number of successful contacts through during the 24hr FD window. > The premise of the single-QSO rule for FM birds is that the single channel > is a scarce resource, and we don't want any one op to hog it. Limiting the > number of QSOs by any one operator gives more time for the rest. Nice in > theory, but as we experience every year, this is ineffective in practice. > I fact, I think it's possibly counter productive to the objective. Let me > explain... > > We see the effect all the time when checking into a net. Net control > calls for checkins, and there's a roar of RF thrown at him/her from which > some morsel of a callsign is extracted. Net control narrows the field down > to that morsel, and the process repeats until a single whole call is > extracted and logged, then on to the next person. > > Now look at what happens if there is no net control. At the end of a > contact, everyone throws their callsign out, but lacking a net control, > there is no clear process for extracting and filtering callsign morsels to > make a 2-way contact. Instead of trying to succeed making a 1-to-n > connection, you're trying to create a winning pair out of an m-by-n zoo. > Eventually timing (yes, a skill), luck, and big hammers (amplifiers) will > result in one of those m-by-n pairings to succeed, but it will take time. > If the rules are constructed to remove the winning participants after every > successful contact, you are forcing that m-by-n chaos to repeat for every > contact. I submit that this is nuts, given the limited time a satellite is > within view, the limited bandwidth (especially for FM birds), and with the > limited number of them that we have. > > Rather, I think it would be better to encourage through the points system *and > through documentation and training* to let a net control role naturally > emerge. The net control station gets some small additional benefit for > ascending to this role by the additional QSOs completed, and the overall > rate of QSOs completed goes up because you're back to a 1-to-n process, so > everyone wins in the end. The process also helps develop the operator > skills of the net control role, just as it does when a station on HF > "holds" a frequency for a while during a contest. If the station can't > hold the frequency, due to technique, equipment, or the loss of propagation > at end of a pass, net control will naturally pass to the next operator with > the skill and equipment to take on that role. > > The current ARRL rules giving 100 points for the first contact, and 1 > point for each contact beyond that, are aligned with this strategy, though > I think that adjustments can be made to make it even better. The single > QSO rule needs to be removed, and in its place should be a set of > guidelines (training) for good behavior. These include the acknowledgment > of the net control role, and the documenting of the inefficiency that > results when there is a power struggle for net control. In this regard, I > think that lowering the prize for additional contacts to 1 point for every > two contacts might be better. We don't want the role to be so juicy that > everyone fights for it; better for some to take that 100 points for the > first contact as a check-in, and go somewhere else for the incremental ones. > > Bottom line, EMike and others are on the right path with the net control > role, but we're missing the training aspect showing why it's a good idea, > and how to behave when you're net control, or just trying to check in. > > Thoughts? > > Greg KO6TH > > > > From ka9p at aol.com Tue Jun 26 00:11:20 2018 From: ka9p at aol.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:11:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> <1331F049-934A-4972-8DBB-38BD44290ADA@aol.com> Message-ID: Patrick, all due respect (and I have a ton for every thing you?ve done) when I put the question - can I work the same sat station in SSB and CW - to the email address listed in the Field Day rules, I got a very prompt, courteous but unambiguous email reply from a guy that should know, of ?no.? Which as I said seemed odd, but it was the answer I got when I asked. If it?s wrong, great, the rules make more sense !? I will drop the gent that sent me that answer yet another note. He may have been distracted by other differences between AMSAT and ARRL, who knows, I expect it was a busy time. Happy to share who it was privately if it helps resolve future confusion. Thanks Patrick. 73 Scott Make something good happen! > On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > > Hi! > > Just like with any of the other bands used for Field Day, ARRL's > Field Day rules provide for 3 modes for use with the "Satellite" > band - CW, Digital, and Phone. There is no separation in the Phone > category for SSB vs. FM, nor is there any separation in the Digital > category between packet, RTTY, PSK31, FT8, or any of the other > digital modes. Where AMSAT's Field Day rules allow me to work a > station across different satellites, and possibly even different > modes on the same satellite (CW vs. SSB, or packet vs. PSK31 for > NO-84), ARRL's rules don't go to that detail. > > I know that I will not be able to count several of my satellite > contacts for the ARRL Field Day submission. For example, I worked > KB6LTY on AO-91 in FM, CAS-4B in SSB, and NO-84 in packet. For > ARRL's rules, one of the non-packet QSOs is a dupe, since there is > only a "phone" mode for satellites - just like there is only a > "phone" mode for each HF band. > > Again, this is something I've dealt with for many years, including > not scoring contacts that exceed the one-QSO-per-FM-satellite rule, > or contacts that are considered dupes under one set of Field Day > rules (usually the ARRL's rules). It really isn't hard to deal with, > but there are differences between the two rulesets that have to be > addressed - if you plan on making an entry for your Field Day effort. > > 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Scott McDonald via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> Not sure which is the point of confusion here, but when I queried the ARRL >> last week before Field Day I was told that ?Satellite? was a band and that >> Mode was irrelevant ( because I wanted to see if I could work a station on >> both SSB and Cw.) >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From devin at thecabal.org Mon Jun 25 23:57:20 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:57:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> Message-ID: A couple of questions and observations sparked by your message. Note that I have not yet participated in a Field Day, so I have no pony in this race. > 1. Field Day is not a contest, it is an activity. I think this statement right here is the crux of much of the disagreement. While what you have stated is true in the grand spirit of the vision of Field Day, the ARRL has also (as we all now) put out scoring rules for FD QSOs and activities. So FD is *both* an outreach activity *and* a contest, all at once. Most of the concerns raised only address one or the other. > 2. In reference to point 1, logs are not scored or checked by the ARRL, so > rules such as only one QSO per FM bird don?t work except for the people > who only make one FM QSO per bird. The rule can?t work because it isn?t > enforced. I don't see it as being a set of behavioral rules, but of *scoring* rules, and as such are enforced by peers. They work very well *for their intended purpose* (which I agree is not to keep the satellites from getting jammed up) and no other. In fact, as one of my colleagues in the IT world often says, "There are seldom technological solutions to behavioral problems." > 3. Making more than a single FM QSO per bird but not including them in your > scoring does little to help with the mess on the FM birds during Field Day. > One is still violating the rule and adding to the chaos, perhaps with good > intentions, but still... If you're not scoring a second or third FM QSO, then technically, are you in violation of the rule? Especially where there are good reasons to make those additional QSOs, as previous posters have shared -- helping others make their single scorable FM QSO, etc. -- which are in the spirit of FD as the outreach activity. This is not to endorse camping on the sat from AOS to LOS, of course, but I believe there is room here for *good operators and operational procedure* to meet in the grey area between FD the contest and FD the activity. -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email: devin at thecabal.org web: Devin on Earth cell: +1 425.239.2575 From tjschuessler at verizon.net Tue Jun 26 00:13:58 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:13:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> Message-ID: <00b001d40ce2$94a3ec20$bdebc460$@verizon.net> Since next year there will be even more satellites up there, Linear and FM, maybe it is time to have ARRL eliminate the 100 point bonus and that will cause many of the folks just trying for that 100 points to just not try. That would take some of the load off the FM birds. I will still be there on the linear satellites even without the bonus. From: Burns Fisher Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:09 PM To: Greg D Cc: E.Mike McCardel ; AMSAT BB ; Tom Schuessler Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD Excellent condensation of what we were saying Greg, not to mention the additional concept of a net control getting extra points, as well as the need for training. Now--in a normal emergency net, a net control is pre-designated (I think). How do you think we could do that for FD while still being in the spirit of "practice for the real thing"? I have no good answer. Good discussion! Burns WB1FJ On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Greg D > wrote: Tossing in my $.02 here, for what it's worth... TL:DR: it's not the rules, it the training that we need to fix. >From this chair, the issue isn't so much about the points as about getting the most number of successful contacts through during the 24hr FD window. The premise of the single-QSO rule for FM birds is that the single channel is a scarce resource, and we don't want any one op to hog it. Limiting the number of QSOs by any one operator gives more time for the rest. Nice in theory, but as we experience every year, this is ineffective in practice. I fact, I think it's possibly counter productive to the objective. Let me explain... We see the effect all the time when checking into a net. Net control calls for checkins, and there's a roar of RF thrown at him/her from which some morsel of a callsign is extracted. Net control narrows the field down to that morsel, and the process repeats until a single whole call is extracted and logged, then on to the next person. Now look at what happens if there is no net control. At the end of a contact, everyone throws their callsign out, but lacking a net control, there is no clear process for extracting and filtering callsign morsels to make a 2-way contact. Instead of trying to succeed making a 1-to-n connection, you're trying to create a winning pair out of an m-by-n zoo. Eventually timing (yes, a skill), luck, and big hammers (amplifiers) will result in one of those m-by-n pairings to succeed, but it will take time. If the rules are constructed to remove the winning participants after every successful contact, you are forcing that m-by-n chaos to repeat for every contact. I submit that this is nuts, given the limited time a satellite is within view, the limited bandwidth (especially for FM birds), and with the limited number of them that we have. Rather, I think it would be better to encourage through the points system and through documentation and training to let a net control role naturally emerge. The net control station gets some small additional benefit for ascending to this role by the additional QSOs completed, and the overall rate of QSOs completed goes up because you're back to a 1-to-n process, so everyone wins in the end. The process also helps develop the operator skills of the net control role, just as it does when a station on HF "holds" a frequency for a while during a contest. If the station can't hold the frequency, due to technique, equipment, or the loss of propagation at end of a pass, net control will naturally pass to the next operator with the skill and equipment to take on that role. The current ARRL rules giving 100 points for the first contact, and 1 point for each contact beyond that, are aligned with this strategy, though I think that adjustments can be made to make it even better. The single QSO rule needs to be removed, and in its place should be a set of guidelines (training) for good behavior. These include the acknowledgment of the net control role, and the documenting of the inefficiency that results when there is a power struggle for net control. In this regard, I think that lowering the prize for additional contacts to 1 point for every two contacts might be better. We don't want the role to be so juicy that everyone fights for it; better for some to take that 100 points for the first contact as a check-in, and go somewhere else for the incremental ones. Bottom line, EMike and others are on the right path with the net control role, but we're missing the training aspect showing why it's a good idea, and how to behave when you're net control, or just trying to check in. Thoughts? Greg KO6TH From ks1g04 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 00:14:08 2018 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:14:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) Message-ID: You wrote.... > > After the chaos of AO-91, I prepped to get ready for CAS-4B at 1929z. This > time, I pulled out the stops. I tuned up quickly at AOS, and started > calling CQ with all the watts, smack dab in the middle of the passband. > There were stations all around me, but none of them were hearing each > other.. as opposed to them, I could actually hear. I worked KB6LTY > quickly, followed by WD9EWK, and then just kept following the bird east. 12 > minutes later I lost the bird behind some buildings after working a VE2. 14 > total stations logged, California to Quebec, in 1 pass. The crowd went > nuts. I spent the next 2 hours showing local hams how to improve their > arrows by using things like good coax, and a couple of the kids mentioned > how sitting around with headphones turning dials was boring, but working > satellites looked like fun. After that I packed up my stuff and headed back > home, and didn't make another contact til after 1800z on Sunday. For ops wanting to get more folks interested, THIS is the way to do it. Excellent job! I worked you (K4LRG) on that pass. CAS-4A and B were our best producers (26 and 20 QSOs), I think my best run of the weekend was 9 QSOs on 4B the following pass. I shared a shelter with our GOTA station, and showed satellite ops to our visitors, but not with THAT degree of success. 73 Steve KS1G From ai6do at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 00:13:55 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD In-Reply-To: <007501d40cdf$bb6cff70$3246fe50$@verizon.net> References: <6EC3FCDB-01E7-4083-B365-3537D7652342@verizon.net> <007501d40cdf$bb6cff70$3246fe50$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <829444606.2253260.1529972035624@mail.yahoo.com> An easy solution to this is to have ARRL Field Day not count satellite QSOs (on the FM birds or otherwise) for QSO points. Has anyone from AMSAT approached the ARRL Field Day committee about this?? Another easy solution is to move AMSAT Field Day to another day. Then there will be much less competition for the limited FM satellite resources and both Field Days would benefit.? 73, Ryan AI6DO On Monday, June 25, 2018, 4:55:23 PM PDT, tjschuessler at verizon.net wrote: Yes the rules do definitely state the 1 contact rule for FM satellites.? What you do here are operators who still try to rack up multiple contacts on the FM sats during FD and that only adds to the overload problem.? My point was that since it is a "Honor system" type of thing.? Someone running 150 watts into a decent beam can easily make multiple QSOs on an FM FD pass and all his QSOs still count for point (1 point only, but points just the same) and in ARRL FD rules, there is no way to disincentivize those operators from doing that.? Now since the AMSAT rules do ask you to list contacts by satellite, it is easy to see if someone is running more than one contact on an FM bird.? We won't see that reflected in ARRL rules so no use getting to hyped up over the issue. There really will never be a good solution to this.? Just hope that more stations get on the linear birds during FD, and than everyone can have lots of fun with lower frustration levels and more completed contacts. From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 02:11:05 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:11:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day In-Reply-To: <359750a1-8a15-5a77-0438-3a68581c58f0@gmail.com> References: <359750a1-8a15-5a77-0438-3a68581c58f0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have any audio of the passes when AO-92 was in L-band they can share? I'm curious what calls I recognize and what I don't. I still need to get an antenna for that band. I have the IC-910H with the L-band module. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Greg D wrote: > Bruce wrote: >> Well, this certainly was more fun than last year. > > So, "fun" has various definitions... Making contacts via satellite, > unfortunately, was not among them for our club, W6EK, this year. > > This was our first "serious" attempt to get a satellite contact during > Field Day. I, the "satellite guy", arrived at our Field Day site armed > with my trusty FT-736R and its 1.2 ghz module, 17-turn helix antenna, > Elk (plus an Arrow from another club member), and sufficient > pass-prediction IT infrastructure to start my own data center, fully > expecting to Ka-Ching! 100 points into the coffer within 10 minutes of > Field Day starting. Got all set up, double-checked where North was > (hind-sight, we were still wrong, but it didn't matter). Then I looked > at the S-meter. The meter was indicating 20-over-9 noise over the > entire 2 meter band. And, I'm going to hear a sub-one-watt signal from > a thousand miles away in space? Yeah, right. > > Taking a sweep of the area, it appeared the noise peak was from a set of > power lines that ran along one side of the Field Day site. I > repositioned as far away as I could, but was still looking at several > S-units of noise, depending on where the antennas pointed. Since many > (most) of the satellites have their downlinks on 2 meters, this would > set the theme for the event. How to defeat the noise? > > I'll spare you the lengthy saga. Bottom line, we were able to hear a > few of the passes of a few of the satellites, for a few brief moments of > clarity, but never could get through. Not enough power on the FM birds, > nor apparently even on the linear ones either. While I did hear myself > (barely) on FO-29, a complete contact was not to be made. We did get a > good pass at AO-92's Model L/v in the late evening, aiming away from the > power lines, but it was so loaded with doubles that we couldn't get > through. Good to know that Mode L still has a strong installed base > among hams, I suppose, but that didn't help our immediate problem. > > Our overall points strategy also included doing some Winlink packet > messaging, but being 2-meter-based, that was thwarted too. In the end, > I did manage to get a couple of messages out via APRS (shorter packets, > better infrastructure, UI-based protocol, equals better chances), > entered via the keypad of my Kenwood TH-D74. I think we can at least > claim those. > > Strategy for next year? Perhaps an alternate site (the HF teams were > somewhat affected too), or better antennas (narrower beamwidth, more > side rejection), more power, and perhaps a chain saw for the > enticingly-wooden utility poles. Just kidding on that last one... > > So, Drew and the AO-92 control ops, thank you for the opportunity to > give L/v a shot. It certainly appears that it was a popular mode, and > well worth the off-cycle mode switch. Maybe next year... > > Greg KO6TH > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ks1g04 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 02:17:02 2018 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:17:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Kudos Message-ID: I handled satellite ops for K4LRG (Loudoun Amateur Radio Group, LARG). Nice hilltop location at Franklin Park in Purcelville VA,excellent coverage to the south and east, decent to the west, and some trees to the north. 1st QSO was VE3YRA on 1st Ukube-1 pass, last a Brazil station on AO-7 just before 1800 UTC. About 135 QSOs before I remove AMSAT dupes. This is about double what we did last year; very happy about it. I'd like to give kudos to folks who stood out in my mind over the weekend: - The ops at W5RRR (JSC club). QSOs on 7 birds, CAS-4A @ 1539 6/24 UTC was VERY SPECIAL. A young man who is very interested in ham radio at the mike. You were his 1st satellite QSO, and he was double excited when I told him where you were. You made this kid's day! Thank you sirs. - K4BFT and VE3YRA - you guys were everywhere with solid signals. We worked BFT on 11 satellites (missed AO-7) and YRA on 10 (missed AO-7, AO-73). We worked several other stations with great signals on multiple satellite, these 2 stood out in my mind. - N8HM. Paul, how you do it with 2 817s (fully manual) and hand-held antenna continues to amaze. Thanks for the QSOs. - The ops on an early Sunday FM satellite pass (I forget which one). You were remarkably disciplined, even by FD standards. - The many ops who stayed with us to complete a QSO despite QRM, low elevation angles, jumpy AO-73 transponder, or insufficient caffeine in me on Sunday morning. My apologies to anyone I stepped on or became "that op." - Customer support at Yaesu in California. Murphy struck on Thursday; I broke a cross boom U-bolt on my rotator while getting ready. I called Yaesu; their customer service rep checked with their technician and they shipped a replacement to me. Which arrived Saturday! (I was worried it would not arrive in time and found a substitute locally that worked OK for FD). Excellent customer service. The number of satellites this year made for interesting times when one pass started while another was underway. We had QSOs on every CW/SSB or FM-capable satellite except AO-7 Mode A and AO-92. Weather was very wet (rained all day Friday and showers on Saturday) and a severe t-storm 1 hr after shutdown on Sunday (2 shelters damaged but no injuries thankfully!). All the satellite QSOs and Sunday gorgeous sunrise and morning made up for it. I still need to get digital modes working (can copy NO-84 and FS-3 but don't have uplink working) and build an L-band antenna for AO-92. And not wait until early June 2019 to get started! 73 de KS1G (K4LRG op) From mrtoburen7 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 02:39:22 2018 From: mrtoburen7 at gmail.com (MrToby) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:39:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: James, I don't take exception with anything you have said. I would rather operate linear SATs anyhow. What bothered me about FD and generally any day, very few if any of them are worked using CW. CW is easier to copy and I think SAT exchanges during FD or otherwise would be faster and more efficient. If I could wish for one thing, that would be it, everyone try making CW contacts via SAT! Marshall, AA0FO (em29) > > From dave at druidnetworks.com Tue Jun 26 02:40:26 2018 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:40:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks David - that was my goal. 73s my friend. -Dave, KG5CCI On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:07 PM, David Bartholomew wrote: > For Dave KG5CCI, I read through the whole thing you wrote and I cannot > fault you at all. You did the right thing all the way through. > I guess it all depends on the situation. > Maybe by next year I hope to be better skilled on linear sats. > Thanks and 73, Dave AD7DB > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From maccody at att.net Tue Jun 26 02:58:29 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:58:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 In-Reply-To: References: <643773671.1836682.1529864402521@mail.yahoo.com> <3215ed19-9faf-356d-220d-fc472a5bffc8@gmail.com> <84823809-7c14-edb5-091f-47db7813c470@att.net> Message-ID: <176652d6-4ede-0b23-4070-fae8eba5d0d1@att.net> Paul, According to the 2018 ARRL Field Day rules: ?? 7.3.7. Satellite QSO: 100 bonus points for successfully completing at least one ?? QSO via an amateur radio satellite during the Field Day period. Satellite QSOs ?? also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately on the summary ?? sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting ?? different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit ?? unless prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1. The QSO must be between two Earth stations ?? through a satellite. Available to Classes A, B, and F. ?? 7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM ?? satellite. I was suggesting a change in the rules that the additional QSOs, at least on the FM birds, would not be counted for QSO credit.? That might result in stations getting the bonus and getting off, unless they wanted to help other stations to get their bonus.? Of course, you'd think that limiting acceptable QSOs to one per FM satellite would have the same affect.? Apparently not, it seems.? I guess some stations didn't read the rules very closely. 73, Mac / AE5PH On 06/25/2018 06:24 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The rules already limit FM QSOs to one. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 01:21 Mac A. Cody > wrote: > > Greg, > > Yeah.? Icertainly wouldn't make the bonus too much larger than 100 > points.? Don't know how one would penalize for multiple QSOs. You > might make the one you need and then another station would call you. > I'd keep it at only one QSO allowed for the bonus and nothing more. > This would allow for a station to work others to help them get their > bonus, too, but only if that station wanted to help.? My guess is that > a lot of stations would bow out once they got their one QSO. That, I > hope, would free up the FM satellites fairly quickly. > > Mac / AE5PH > > On 06/25/2018 12:01 AM, Greg D wrote: > > The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation > > compared to the summer event.? I don't think what worked for the > winter > > event can scale to the summer one.? Imagine the chaos that would be > > caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact > in the > > summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of > participants to > > attempt a contact.? It would certainly bring additional > attention and > > interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much. > > > > But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good; > > perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds. > > > > Greg? KO6TH > > > > > > Mac A. Cody wrote: > >> One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for > >> Winter Field Day.? For Winter Field Day, a station can net a > 1500-point > >> bonus for one satellite QSO.? There are no additional points for > >> subsequent QSOs.? Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for > >> an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Mac Cody / AE5PH > >> > >> > >> On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >>> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today.. > >>> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening > ONLY and > >>> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators > >>> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without? being > able to > >>> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange > monitored..and > >>> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys > >>> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first > >>> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording. > >>> > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views > >>> of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>> program! > >>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views > >> of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 03:05:51 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:05:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reply to WD9EWK question ref. FalconSat-3 on Field Day Message-ID: -----/ EDIT / ----- Unfortunately, FalconSat-3's passes didn't line up with my time in northern Arizona. I wonder if anyone made QSOs through that digipeater. Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK -----/ EDIT / ----- Patrick's question above is from another thread that got long, so I thought I'd reply as a new message since this is a specific topic. I don't know if there were any true 2-way APRS exchanges on FS-3 during Field Day, but I did download an FD-related BBS message from KB6LTY and on the following pass, my reply to her was uploaded to the satellite. That's not a QSO, but just wanted to mention it since not everyone sees the postings on FS-3's BBS. Can't post an image with this message, but here's a link if anyone would like to see what a BBS message on FS-3 looks like: http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/kb6lty-msg.png As for regular APRS packets, I wasn't awake when W4LHS (COASTAL AMATEUR RADIO SOCIETY, Savannah, GA) was active via FS-3's packet digipeater, but my K4KDR-15 iGate heard them being digipeated. So, their APRS traffic was relayed to aprs.fi. Here is a link to a screen shot of those packets: http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/w4lhs-1--igate.png So, it was nice to see at least some Field Day traffic relayed through FalconSat-3. 73! -Scott, K4KDR From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jun 26 04:44:22 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:44:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-26 05:00 UTC Message-ID: <1643a682baa-c8f-245a9@webjas-vac206.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-26 05:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg ? Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, direct via W9DWJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT (***) Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-02 15:35:42 UTC 33 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-26 05:00 UTC. ?(***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1232. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1181. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jun 26 04:45:29 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:45:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-26 05:00 UTC Message-ID: <1643a692fd5-c91-2b33c@webjas-vab056.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-26 05:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg ? Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, direct via W9DWJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT (***) Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-02 15:35:42 UTC 33 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-26 05:00 UTC. ?(***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1232. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1181. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From pa3fym at amsat.org Tue Jun 26 07:41:53 2018 From: pa3fym at amsat.org (Remco) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:41:53 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail-2 transverter ready Message-ID: <3510545.Ck40boDGzr@lithium> I built my second Es'hail-2 transverter with easy available building blocks and junk box / flea market components. I consider the future (narrow band) transponder as a 'normal' amateur band (with latency) and therefore will operate 'simplex'. This means the LO frequencies are switched by the PTT (TX-enable). Picture: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgZGilPWsAAWSQh.jpg:large Some technical details: RX / TX LO: ADF4351, programmed by an ATTiny13a TX mixer: HMC213 RX mixer: home brew with ADE-1 + J310 HPA: surplus ex-UMTS module (P-1 dB @2400 MHz = 10W) IF RX / TX: 432 MHz (or something else) Dish feed: 6t 2.4 GHz LHCP helix and 10 GHz LNB 'peek a booing' through the helix 73, Remco PA3FYM From lu2fsc at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 01:47:56 2018 From: lu2fsc at gmail.com (sergio cejas) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:47:56 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] newsletter Message-ID: please include me in the amsat newsletter Thank you very much . Sergio -LU2FSC- From strotherbj at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 13:21:39 2018 From: strotherbj at comcast.net (Jack Strother) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] M2, AMSAT and field Day Message-ID: <785901248.98831.1530019300103@connect.xfinity.com> To the Folks at M2 Antenna Systems and the AMSAT Hierarchy. I ordered a Leo Pack from the AMSAT Booth,(Thank You for the Support), while at the Dayton / Xenia Ham Fest. It show up, at my home, about 2 weeks later. I built the array, in about 6 hours or so, the antennas went together really well. Then took another 8 hours or so to get my Field Day setup built, in the garage, Rotators and tripod. With a Comet Analyzer I swept each antenna assembly and found the to be exactly where they needed to be for LEO work. A week later I set everything up for field day. (Pix attached). I wanted to let you and everyone else know just how impressive this system is. It was either an AO-91 or an AO-92 pass over the western side of California, about between 2 and 3:30 am I was able to hit the satellite, make a contact actually 2; 1 in CA another in AZ, from the airport located Elkhart Indiana. The elevation on the shown on the AZ controller(LVB Tracker) reflected 10 to 14 degrees and the airport is about elevation is about 780' asl. This was my first Field Day and my First, actual satellite operation. I have been an Enthusiast, since I rejoined the amateur radio community, and have had no real contacts, until Field Day. I can now refer to myself as an real satellite operator, Yeah! I appreciate the M2 folks support of the AMSAT group, and I appreciate the AMSAT folks in their efforts to keep Amateur Radio in Space alive. All the Best! KD9ERA From occamrazr at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 20:12:25 2018 From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 16:12:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 setup Message-ID: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> I have no operating experience with satellites. I am installing this G-5500 az-el rotator on a satellite ground station and I am using SatPC32 tracking software and an ERC interface. Everything is operational, so far... I am trying to decide whether to use 0 to 360 degrees or 0 to 420 degrees on the azimuth rotator. The station is located in Eastern TN, USA. The 0 to 420 uses all available rotation but then the meter readings are not as useful. Are there any preferences on this? From a practical, operating point of view, should the azimuth mid point or home position have the antenna pointed North or South? Or some other direction? Thanks for your input. Butch K8KO From w7lrd at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 20:46:44 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 13:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 setup In-Reply-To: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> References: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1863852990.40934.1530046004545@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Butch I checked with Mr. Murphy and he suggests keep it small 360 degrees. I have followed Mr. Murphy's advice and no trouble in over 15 years. North is my stop on the rotor. 73 Bob W7LRD > On June 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > I have no operating experience with satellites. > > I am installing this G-5500 az-el rotator on a satellite ground station and I am using SatPC32 tracking software and an ERC interface. Everything is operational, so far... > > I am trying to decide whether to use 0 to 360 degrees or 0 to 420 degrees on the azimuth rotator. > The station is located in Eastern TN, USA. The 0 to 420 uses all available rotation but then the meter readings are not as useful. Are there any preferences on this? > > From a practical, operating point of view, should the azimuth mid point or home position have the antenna pointed North or South? Or some other direction? > > Thanks for your input. > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jun 26 21:30:23 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:30:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 setup In-Reply-To: <1863852990.40934.1530046004545@connect.xfinity.com> References: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> <1863852990.40934.1530046004545@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: I've used 420 with SatPC32. It's fine. The other possibility is to use "flip". That is allow an altitude of 180 which essentially puts your stop S instead of N. MacDoppler understand this, and pretty sure SatPC32 does also. On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Hi Butch > I checked with Mr. Murphy and he suggests keep it small 360 degrees. I > have followed Mr. Murphy's advice and no trouble in over 15 years. North is > my stop on the rotor. > 73 Bob W7LRD > > > On June 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM Butch via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > > I have no operating experience with satellites. > > > > I am installing this G-5500 az-el rotator on a satellite ground station > and I am using SatPC32 tracking software and an ERC interface. Everything > is operational, so far... > > > > I am trying to decide whether to use 0 to 360 degrees or 0 to 420 > degrees on the azimuth rotator. > > The station is located in Eastern TN, USA. The 0 to 420 uses all > available rotation but then the meter readings are not as useful. Are there > any preferences on this? > > > > From a practical, operating point of view, should the azimuth mid point > or home position have the antenna pointed North or South? Or some other > direction? > > > > Thanks for your input. > > > > Butch K8KO > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu Tue Jun 26 21:43:19 2018 From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 16:43:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 setup In-Reply-To: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> References: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> Message-ID: 360 + 90 = 450. Not 420. Use all of it if you can, but SatPC32 will seldom go the whole extra 90 degrees. As noted by others, the ability to do the back flip, 180 degrees of elevation, is usually of more utility. North or south stop is religion, not science (though I'm sure someone has done the math to prove me wrong on that). Your preference. I use a north stop, even though I'm located fairly far north. -- Mark D. Johns K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 3:12 PM Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I have no operating experience with satellites. > > I am installing this G-5500 az-el rotator on a satellite ground station > and I am using SatPC32 tracking software and an ERC interface. Everything > is operational, so far... > > I am trying to decide whether to use 0 to 360 degrees or 0 to 420 degrees > on the azimuth rotator. > The station is located in Eastern TN, USA. The 0 to 420 uses all > available rotation but then the meter readings are not as useful. Are > there any preferences on this? > > From a practical, operating point of view, should the azimuth mid point or > home position have the antenna pointed North or South? Or some other > direction? > > Thanks for your input. > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From almetco at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 21:57:17 2018 From: almetco at comcast.net (Greg) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:57:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 setup In-Reply-To: References: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1F72BEAD-7378-48DA-81C7-DC679F780511@comcast.net> Ditto on the 360 here in FN00. If I recall, (set me straight if I?m thinking Nova) SatPC32 has a 1 minute before AOS. So usually, it will swing 180 to get oriented anyway before AOS. Greg N3MVF On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Mark D. Johns wrote: 360 + 90 = 450. Not 420. Use all of it if you can, but SatPC32 will seldom go the whole extra 90 degrees. As noted by others, the ability to do the back flip, 180 degrees of elevation, is usually of more utility. North or south stop is religion, not science (though I'm sure someone has done the math to prove me wrong on that). Your preference. I use a north stop, even though I'm located fairly far north. -- Mark D. Johns K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 3:12 PM Butch via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I have no operating experience with satellites. > > I am installing this G-5500 az-el rotator on a satellite ground station > and I am using SatPC32 tracking software and an ERC interface. Everything > is operational, so far... > > I am trying to decide whether to use 0 to 360 degrees or 0 to 420 degrees > on the azimuth rotator. > The station is located in Eastern TN, USA. The 0 to 420 uses all > available rotation but then the meter readings are not as useful. Are > there any preferences on this? > > From a practical, operating point of view, should the azimuth mid point or > home position have the antenna pointed North or South? Or some other > direction? > > Thanks for your input. > > Butch K8KO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kv1j at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 22:13:17 2018 From: kv1j at comcast.net (Eric Williams) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:13:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FP/KV1J 3 - 17 July 2018 GN17 Message-ID: <001e01d40d9a$e2d01780$a8704680$@comcast.net> I will be active on the Sats from the French island of Miquelon from 3 July through 17 July as FP/KV1J. This will be my 12th trip to the island. I mostly operate the low bands and 6 meters. When the WX is good, I try to get outside and work the linear birds. Occasionally I will also be on the FM birds. I use a pair of FT-817s and an Arrow antenna. Most of the time I will be grid GN17. If I am on the main island of St Pierre or if I borrow a car a drive to Langlade, I will be GN16. I have limited internet. My email is kv1j (at) arrl.net (not the email I am sending this from). More information at: http://www.kv1j.com/fp/July18.html 73 Eric KV1J FP/KV1J From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 22:34:05 2018 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:34:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 setup In-Reply-To: <1F72BEAD-7378-48DA-81C7-DC679F780511@comcast.net> References: <47C5474C-8070-40BC-95BB-8BB0E501711C@yahoo.com> <1F72BEAD-7378-48DA-81C7-DC679F780511@comcast.net> Message-ID: Center of rotation is 225. (450/2) When making rotator loop (control cables and coax), center the rotator before creating it. Have a blast. This is a great niche of ham radio. Norm n3ykf On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Greg wrote: > Ditto on the 360 here in FN00. If I recall, (set me straight if I?m thinking Nova) SatPC32 has a 1 minute before AOS. So usually, it will swing 180 to get oriented anyway before AOS. > > Greg > N3MVF > > > On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Mark D. Johns wrote: > > 360 + 90 = 450. Not 420. Use all of it if you can, but SatPC32 will seldom > go the whole extra 90 degrees. As noted by others, the ability to do the > back flip, 180 degrees of elevation, is usually of more utility. > > North or south stop is religion, not science (though I'm sure someone has > done the math to prove me wrong on that). Your preference. I use a north > stop, even though I'm located fairly far north. > -- > Mark D. Johns > K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ > Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 3:12 PM Butch via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> I have no operating experience with satellites. >> >> I am installing this G-5500 az-el rotator on a satellite ground station >> and I am using SatPC32 tracking software and an ERC interface. Everything >> is operational, so far... >> >> I am trying to decide whether to use 0 to 360 degrees or 0 to 420 degrees >> on the azimuth rotator. >> The station is located in Eastern TN, USA. The 0 to 420 uses all >> available rotation but then the meter readings are not as useful. Are >> there any preferences on this? >> >> From a practical, operating point of view, should the azimuth mid point or >> home position have the antenna pointed North or South? Or some other >> direction? >> >> Thanks for your input. >> >> Butch K8KO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From fezzolare at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 26 23:45:34 2018 From: fezzolare at sbcglobal.net (fezzolare) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:45:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface Message-ID: <20180626234540.96CD88956@lansing182.amsat.org> Hi scott?I know this is a old post but could you let me know if this will work with ham radio deluxe and how hard to hook up?David WF6ZZ Sent from my Galaxy Tab A From ka3hsw at att.net Wed Jun 27 04:21:23 2018 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 23:21:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: To have an AMSAT rule that directly conflicts with the ARRL one-and-done rule is ridiculous. George, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:53 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be a net control type station and work every station you want. You would only be able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those trying to make the 100 point satellite bonus. We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single pass. 73...bruce From wa7dxz at aol.com Wed Jun 27 05:17:51 2018 From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 22:17:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] New FD rules ideas Message-ID: <20180627051758.6A4F084D4@lansing182.amsat.org> One of the points made was that nowdays, working the FM birds is relatively easy, and to give relief to? the crowded FM birds, we need more linear sat ops.? ?How about giving 25 points for? the FM contact, but 100 for a linear contact. You could do one or the other, not both.We are joking if we deny FD isn't about points. You want the big points, you earn them. (Linear)You want an easy 25, or do a demonstration, you get 25, (FM)? It won't solve all the problems, but might relieve the FM birds somewhat, and encourage linear operation.Bobwa7dxzSun City, AZ Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From gary_mayfield at hotmail.com Tue Jun 26 02:39:00 2018 From: gary_mayfield at hotmail.com (Gary) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 02:39:00 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> <60BA7B01-12C9-46D6-9549-1D84E5A6DE36@amsat.org> Message-ID: I've suggested in the past we move the FM sats to either a net control format (as others have suggested) or perhaps a bonus for copying a satellite bonus message from w1aw or its relays... To emphasize receiving more than transmitting. Just my thoughts. 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Devin L. Ganger Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:57 PM To: JamesDuffey ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) A couple of questions and observations sparked by your message. Note that I have not yet participated in a Field Day, so I have no pony in this race. > 1. Field Day is not a contest, it is an activity. I think this statement right here is the crux of much of the disagreement. While what you have stated is true in the grand spirit of the vision of Field Day, the ARRL has also (as we all now) put out scoring rules for FD QSOs and activities. So FD is *both* an outreach activity *and* a contest, all at once. Most of the concerns raised only address one or the other. > 2. In reference to point 1, logs are not scored or checked by the > ARRL, so rules such as only one QSO per FM bird don?t work except for > the people who only make one FM QSO per bird. The rule can?t work > because it isn?t enforced. I don't see it as being a set of behavioral rules, but of *scoring* rules, and as such are enforced by peers. They work very well *for their intended purpose* (which I agree is not to keep the satellites from getting jammed up) and no other. In fact, as one of my colleagues in the IT world often says, "There are seldom technological solutions to behavioral problems." > 3. Making more than a single FM QSO per bird but not including them in > your scoring does little to help with the mess on the FM birds during Field Day. > One is still violating the rule and adding to the chaos, perhaps with > good intentions, but still... If you're not scoring a second or third FM QSO, then technically, are you in violation of the rule? Especially where there are good reasons to make those additional QSOs, as previous posters have shared -- helping others make their single scorable FM QSO, etc. -- which are in the spirit of FD as the outreach activity. This is not to endorse camping on the sat from AOS to LOS, of course, but I believe there is room here for *good operators and operational procedure* to meet in the grey area between FD the contest and FD the activity. -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email: devin at thecabal.org web: Devin on Earth cell: +1 425.239.2575 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From matthew at mrstevens.net Wed Jun 27 11:26:53 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 07:26:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: Neither rule prevents you from making more than one FM contact. Both rules just prohibit you from SCORING more than one FM contact. 73 - Matthew nj4y On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:21 AM, George Henry wrote: > To have an AMSAT rule that directly conflicts with the ARRL one-and-done > rule is ridiculous. > > > George, KA3HSW > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:53 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) > > In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be a > net control type station and work every station you want. You would only be > able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those trying to > make the 100 point satellite bonus. > > We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and > both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby > maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single > pass. > > 73...bruce > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From sv1ljj at raag.org Wed Jun 27 11:25:52 2018 From: sv1ljj at raag.org (Apostolos Kefalas) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:25:52 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> Message-ID: <1530098752.2309.7.camel@raag.org> On Sun, 2018-06-24 at 09:04 +0200, Nico Janssen wrote: > Ken, > > You can always find the most recent LongJiang 2 orbital elements for > GMAT in my GMAT script for LongJiang 2 here: > https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang2_NYC.script > > For further information see my web page: > https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html > Hello Nico, I am trying to use your script for GMAT and learn a little bit of it. I am using GMAT R2018a 64bit for linux. So far I have added a new "Ground Station" with the exact same "options" of "New_York_City", but with the coordinates of Athens (Lat:38.0246 , Lon:23.8442, Elev:0.230) Also in the "Event Locators -> ContactLocator->Observers" I have unchecked New_York_City and checked Athens. I run the Analysis and get the following: Target: LongJiang2 Observer: Athens Start Time (UTC)????????????Stop Time (UTC)???????????????Duration (s)????????? 22 Jun 2018 20:00:01.308????22 Jun 2018 23:57:54.270??????14272.962042???? 23 Jun 2018 13:30:48.606????24 Jun 2018 00:31:55.696??????39667.090330???? 24 Jun 2018 14:29:38.778????25 Jun 2018 01:08:24.795??????38326.017501???? 25 Jun 2018 15:29:40.410????26 Jun 2018 01:47:31.343??????37070.933417???? 26 Jun 2018 16:25:59.568????27 Jun 2018 02:18:55.784??????35576.216663???? 27 Jun 2018 17:18:46.946????28 Jun 2018 03:01:47.463??????34980.517488???? 28 Jun 2018 18:07:27.244????29 Jun 2018 03:51:26.879??????35039.635199???? 29 Jun 2018 18:51:47.025????30 Jun 2018 04:46:31.909??????35684.884510???? 30 Jun 2018 19:31:54.199????01 Jul 2018 05:46:51.938??????36897.739497???? 01 Jul 2018 20:08:14.499????02 Jul 2018 06:32:57.414??????37482.914687???? Number of events : 10 According to the above there should be a "pass" over my location on 27 Jun 2018 17:18:46.946?until?28 Jun 2018 03:01:47.463 (correct?) But when I see the ReportFile1 I get: ........ (snip) 27 Jun 2018 17:23:32.914???150.5092511914209????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????419362.0357962959?????????????????????????282 97.22511514511????????? 27 Jun 2018 17:40:29.154???142.0321174249796????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????418700.9067020232?????????????????????????282 97.23687717522????????? 27 Jun 2018 18:00:10.948???133.4730126623195????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????417834.3036042269?????????????????????????282 97.25055535639????????? 27 Jun 2018 18:18:31.981???126.6220879528141????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????416924.6852335503?????????????????????????282 97.26329879122????????? 27 Jun 2018 18:33:21.680???121.7549078882987????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????416111.3291154901?????????????????????????282 97.27359622712????????? 27 Jun 2018 18:48:06.639???117.4075174974269????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????415226.7124895696?????????????????????????282 97.28383881658????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:01:35.422???113.7946111646366????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????414346.6042086262?????????????????????????282 97.29319973242????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:13:46.677???110.7761388040548????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????413486.9471883456?????????????????????????282 97.30166332914????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:24:48.083???108.217464063449?????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????412653.1299510594?????????????????????????282 97.3093184835?????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:33:38.926???106.2647394891434????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????411942.9592179462?????????????????????????282 97.31546249967????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:41:30.141???104.5965376382924????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????411280.9274945419?????????????????????????282 97.32091637599????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:48:27.000???103.1654945120115????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????410670.3271268641?????????????????????????282 97.3257411411?????????? 27 Jun 2018 19:54:38.434???101.9214367116329????????????????????????NaN???????????? ??????????????????????????410107.171915261??????????????????????????282 97.3300401459?????????? ........ (snip) Could please explain what am I doing wrong and I do not have an elevation calculation? Thanks in advance Apostolos - SV1LJJ From hamsat at xs4all.nl Wed Jun 27 13:08:27 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 15:08:27 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: <1530098752.2309.7.camel@raag.org> References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> <1530098752.2309.7.camel@raag.org> Message-ID: <45852a76-605c-61b0-83a5-079942a12099@xs4all.nl> Apostolos, I don't think you are doing anything wrong. Your results look correct. But I cannot check everything because I am running the most recent version of the script with the 29 June orbital elements. Sometimes I also get the 'NaN' result in the elevation column. I think this is a program bug. I found that sometimes it helps to do the following: stop GMAT, start GMAT, load the script, immediately run the script before doing anything else with the program. I hope this helps. 73, Nico On 27-06-18 13:25, Apostolos Kefalas wrote: > On Sun, 2018-06-24 at 09:04 +0200, Nico Janssen wrote: >> Ken, >> >> You can always find the most recent LongJiang 2 orbital elements for >> GMAT in my GMAT script for LongJiang 2 here: >> https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang2_NYC.script >> >> For further information see my web page: >> https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html >> > Hello Nico, > > I am trying to use your script for GMAT and learn a little bit of it. I > am using GMAT R2018a 64bit for linux. > > So far I have added a new "Ground Station" with the exact same > "options" of "New_York_City", but with the coordinates of Athens > (Lat:38.0246 , Lon:23.8442, Elev:0.230) > > Also in the "Event Locators -> ContactLocator->Observers" I have > unchecked New_York_City and checked Athens. > > I run the Analysis and get the following: > > Target: LongJiang2 > > Observer: Athens > Start Time (UTC)????????????Stop Time (UTC)???????????????Duration > (s) > 22 Jun 2018 20:00:01.308????22 Jun 2018 > 23:57:54.270??????14272.962042 > 23 Jun 2018 13:30:48.606????24 Jun 2018 > 00:31:55.696??????39667.090330 > 24 Jun 2018 14:29:38.778????25 Jun 2018 > 01:08:24.795??????38326.017501 > 25 Jun 2018 15:29:40.410????26 Jun 2018 > 01:47:31.343??????37070.933417 > 26 Jun 2018 16:25:59.568????27 Jun 2018 > 02:18:55.784??????35576.216663 > 27 Jun 2018 17:18:46.946????28 Jun 2018 > 03:01:47.463??????34980.517488 > 28 Jun 2018 18:07:27.244????29 Jun 2018 > 03:51:26.879??????35039.635199 > 29 Jun 2018 18:51:47.025????30 Jun 2018 > 04:46:31.909??????35684.884510 > 30 Jun 2018 19:31:54.199????01 Jul 2018 > 05:46:51.938??????36897.739497 > 01 Jul 2018 20:08:14.499????02 Jul 2018 > 06:32:57.414??????37482.914687 > > > Number of events : 10 > > > According to the above there should be a "pass" over my location on 27 > Jun 2018 17:18:46.946?until?28 Jun 2018 03:01:47.463 (correct?) > > But when I see the ReportFile1 I get: > > > ........ (snip) > > 27 Jun 2018 > 17:23:32.914???150.5092511914209????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????419362.0357962959?????????????????????????282 > 97.22511514511 > 27 Jun 2018 > 17:40:29.154???142.0321174249796????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????418700.9067020232?????????????????????????282 > 97.23687717522 > 27 Jun 2018 > 18:00:10.948???133.4730126623195????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????417834.3036042269?????????????????????????282 > 97.25055535639 > 27 Jun 2018 > 18:18:31.981???126.6220879528141????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????416924.6852335503?????????????????????????282 > 97.26329879122 > 27 Jun 2018 > 18:33:21.680???121.7549078882987????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????416111.3291154901?????????????????????????282 > 97.27359622712 > 27 Jun 2018 > 18:48:06.639???117.4075174974269????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????415226.7124895696?????????????????????????282 > 97.28383881658 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:01:35.422???113.7946111646366????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????414346.6042086262?????????????????????????282 > 97.29319973242 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:13:46.677???110.7761388040548????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????413486.9471883456?????????????????????????282 > 97.30166332914 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:24:48.083???108.217464063449?????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????412653.1299510594?????????????????????????282 > 97.3093184835 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:33:38.926???106.2647394891434????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????411942.9592179462?????????????????????????282 > 97.31546249967 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:41:30.141???104.5965376382924????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????411280.9274945419?????????????????????????282 > 97.32091637599 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:48:27.000???103.1654945120115????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????410670.3271268641?????????????????????????282 > 97.3257411411 > 27 Jun 2018 > 19:54:38.434???101.9214367116329????????????????????????NaN > ??????????????????????????410107.171915261??????????????????????????282 > 97.3300401459 > > ........ (snip) > > Could please explain what am I doing wrong and I do not have an > elevation calculation? > > > Thanks in advance > Apostolos - SV1LJJ > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jamesduffey at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 13:49:44 2018 From: jamesduffey at comcast.net (JamesDuffey) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 07:49:44 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: To me this rule: ?7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite.? Precludes stations from making more than one QSO on a FM bird. I suppose that this is subject to interpretation, but to me that the intent of the rule is to make the FM satellites available to more people by rationing QSOes to one per bird. Making more than a single QSO and not scoring them or not entering them into the log does not make the satellite available to more operators and seems to fly in the face of the rule. I understand why people do it, and under some circumstances it may be a good idea, but to me it is against the rule. Of course someone could ask the ARRL Contest Manager if this practice is OK, but remember the old adage of not asking questions you don?t really want to know the answer to. - Duffey KK6MC James Duffey KK6MC Cedar Crest NM > On Jun 27, 2018, at 05:26, Matthew Stevens wrote: > > Neither rule prevents you from making more than one FM contact. Both > rules just prohibit you from SCORING more than one FM contact. > > 73 > > - Matthew nj4y > > >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:21 AM, George Henry wrote: >> To have an AMSAT rule that directly conflicts with the ARRL one-and-done >> rule is ridiculous. >> >> >> George, KA3HSW >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:53 AM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) >> >> In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be a >> net control type station and work every station you want. You would only be >> able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those trying to >> make the 100 point satellite bonus. >> >> We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and >> both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby >> maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single >> pass. >> >> 73...bruce >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From sv1ljj at raag.org Wed Jun 27 13:13:14 2018 From: sv1ljj at raag.org (Apostolos Kefalas) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:13:14 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-2 elements for GMAT? In-Reply-To: <45852a76-605c-61b0-83a5-079942a12099@xs4all.nl> References: <004801d40b4b$02ece7c0$08c6b740$@charter.net> <1530098752.2309.7.camel@raag.org> <45852a76-605c-61b0-83a5-079942a12099@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1530105194.2309.9.camel@raag.org> Thank you Nico, i will try it again. 73, Apostolos On Wed, 2018-06-27 at 15:08 +0200, Nico Janssen wrote: > Apostolos, > > I don't think you are doing anything wrong. Your results look > correct. > But I cannot check everything because I am running the most recent > version of the script with the 29 June orbital elements. > > Sometimes I also get the 'NaN' result in the elevation column. I > think > this is a program bug. I found that sometimes it helps to do the > following: stop GMAT, start GMAT, load the script, immediately run > the script before doing anything else with the program. > > I hope this helps. > > 73, Nico > > On 27-06-18 13:25, Apostolos Kefalas wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-06-24 at 09:04 +0200, Nico Janssen wrote: > > > Ken, > > > > > > You can always find the most recent LongJiang 2 orbital elements > > > for > > > GMAT in my GMAT script for LongJiang 2 here: > > > https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang2_NYC.script > > > > > > For further information see my web page: > > > https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html > > > > > > > Hello Nico, > > > > I am trying to use your script for GMAT and learn a little bit of > > it. I > > am using GMAT R2018a 64bit for linux. > > > > So far I have added a new "Ground Station" with the exact same > > "options" of "New_York_City", but with the coordinates of Athens > > (Lat:38.0246 , Lon:23.8442, Elev:0.230) > > > > Also in the "Event Locators -> ContactLocator->Observers" I have > > unchecked New_York_City and checked Athens. > > > > I run the Analysis and get the following: > > > > Target: LongJiang2 > > > > Observer: Athens > > Start Time (UTC)????????????Stop Time (UTC)???????????????Duration > > (s) > > 22 Jun 2018 20:00:01.308????22 Jun 2018 > > 23:57:54.270??????14272.962042 > > 23 Jun 2018 13:30:48.606????24 Jun 2018 > > 00:31:55.696??????39667.090330 > > 24 Jun 2018 14:29:38.778????25 Jun 2018 > > 01:08:24.795??????38326.017501 > > 25 Jun 2018 15:29:40.410????26 Jun 2018 > > 01:47:31.343??????37070.933417 > > 26 Jun 2018 16:25:59.568????27 Jun 2018 > > 02:18:55.784??????35576.216663 > > 27 Jun 2018 17:18:46.946????28 Jun 2018 > > 03:01:47.463??????34980.517488 > > 28 Jun 2018 18:07:27.244????29 Jun 2018 > > 03:51:26.879??????35039.635199 > > 29 Jun 2018 18:51:47.025????30 Jun 2018 > > 04:46:31.909??????35684.884510 > > 30 Jun 2018 19:31:54.199????01 Jul 2018 > > 05:46:51.938??????36897.739497 > > 01 Jul 2018 20:08:14.499????02 Jul 2018 > > 06:32:57.414??????37482.914687 > > > > > > Number of events : 10 > > > > > > According to the above there should be a "pass" over my location on > > 27 > > Jun 2018 17:18:46.946?until?28 Jun 2018 03:01:47.463 (correct?) > > > > But when I see the ReportFile1 I get: > > > > > > ........ (snip) > > > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 17:23:32.914???150.5092511914209????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????419362.0357962959??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.22511514511 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 17:40:29.154???142.0321174249796????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????418700.9067020232??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.23687717522 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 18:00:10.948???133.4730126623195????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????417834.3036042269??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.25055535639 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 18:18:31.981???126.6220879528141????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????416924.6852335503??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.26329879122 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 18:33:21.680???121.7549078882987????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????416111.3291154901??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.27359622712 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 18:48:06.639???117.4075174974269????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????415226.7124895696??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.28383881658 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:01:35.422???113.7946111646366????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????414346.6042086262??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.29319973242 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:13:46.677???110.7761388040548????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????413486.9471883456??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.30166332914 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:24:48.083???108.217464063449?????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????412653.1299510594??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.3093184835 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:33:38.926???106.2647394891434????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????411942.9592179462??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.31546249967 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:41:30.141???104.5965376382924????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????411280.9274945419??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.32091637599 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:48:27.000???103.1654945120115????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????410670.3271268641??????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.3257411411 > > 27 Jun 2018 > > 19:54:38.434???101.9214367116329????????????????????????NaN > > ???????????????????????????410107.171915261???????????????????????? > > ??282 > > 97.3300401459?????????? > > > > ........ (snip) > > > > Could please explain what am I doing wrong and I do not have an > > elevation calculation? > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > Apostolos - SV1LJJ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat- > > bb > > From matthew at mrstevens.net Wed Jun 27 14:56:12 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 10:56:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: Agreed, that's the stated intent of the rule from both AMSAT and the ARRL. And yeah, generally I think it's better to hop off the FM sats, not tying it up and preventing other people from getting their QSO. But, as I have done several times, I normally just monitor the FM passes. If I hear a lot of callsign dropping, CQing, and carriers for a decent amount of time during the pass, I'll start calling some of them - especially the weak ones who seem to be likely using an HT to get their bonus points. If I hear others start actually making contacts instead of blind calling, then I back off and go back to monitoring. Is that preventing others from using the sat, and keeping them from making qsos? I don't think so. Does that comply with the spirit of the rule, which is to allow more people to make qsos on FM? I think it does. I know of at least two people from FD 2017 who would not have gotten their sat bonus if I hadn't done just that. I would say, just use your judgement. If you're in a position with a decent enough station and experience to actually operate like I've described (and heard others do this weekend), then you probably aren't one of the ops that the rule is intended to address. Rules aren't going to keep people from doing dumb things. I think the best way to address the alleged "problem" of FM sats on field day is not to add more rules, but to spread some operating skill and knowledge like Sean (Kx9x) did in his QST article for June. There's no substitute for practice and experience. And once you've got both, you can make the call yourself on what to do during any given pass, field day or not. 73 - Matthew nj4y On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:49 AM, JamesDuffey wrote: > To me this rule: > > ?7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite.? > > Precludes stations from making more than one QSO on a FM bird. > > I suppose that this is subject to interpretation, but to me that the intent of the rule is to make the FM satellites available to more people by rationing QSOes to one per bird. Making more than a single QSO and not scoring them or not entering them into the log does not make the satellite available to more operators and seems to fly in the face of the rule. I understand why people do it, and under some circumstances it may be a good idea, but to me it is against the rule. > > Of course someone could ask the ARRL Contest Manager if this practice is OK, but remember the old adage of not asking questions you don?t really want to know the answer to. - Duffey KK6MC > > James Duffey KK6MC > Cedar Crest NM > >> On Jun 27, 2018, at 05:26, Matthew Stevens wrote: >> >> Neither rule prevents you from making more than one FM contact. Both >> rules just prohibit you from SCORING more than one FM contact. >> >> 73 >> >> - Matthew nj4y >> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:21 AM, George Henry wrote: >>> To have an AMSAT rule that directly conflicts with the ARRL one-and-done >>> rule is ridiculous. >>> >>> >>> George, KA3HSW >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce >>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:53 AM >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) >>> >>> In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you can be a >>> net control type station and work every station you want. You would only be >>> able to score one contact yourself but had given many out to those trying to >>> make the 100 point satellite bonus. >>> >>> We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked someone and >>> both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work each other thereby >>> maximazing the number of possible contacts on the satellite during a single >>> pass. >>> >>> 73...bruce >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w9gb at icloud.com Wed Jun 27 15:21:41 2018 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 10:21:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface Message-ID: David - For a computer application (HamRadio Deluxe) to have ?remote control? of another device ... it requires a communication path (using standards like serial, RS-232 or RS-422, for distance) and an intelligence (u-Processor) within device to interpret the communications and perform desired actions. ? The Channel Master 9521(A) TV antenna rotator is a simple 50+ year 3-wire motor control design, updated in past decade with ?Bling? (7-segment display and IR control) controller using a u-processor, to appear ?modern? to non-STEM consumers. https://support.channelmaster.com/hc/en-us/articles/200382985-Rotator-System-CM-9521A-CM-9521HD-Documents- In addition, there is No True BRAKE in these inexpensive designs (reason CDE created the Ham-series of azimuth rotators in 1957) The designs are virtually the same as early 1950s TV rotators in post-WW2 America. Why is that an important? NO positive feedback between actual direction of outside rotator and inside control box (subject to mis-alignments). Adding Position Control to 3-wire Rotators (Radio Shack, Channel Master, NTE) by Doug Braun, NA1DB (amsat-bb, circa 2001) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200110/msg00027.html No schematic diagram provided, BUT YouTube disassemble videos exist. https://youtu.be/KhvxsMiObTY Building a PIC rotator controller, NA1DB http://www.dougbraun.com/pix/rotor_controller/index.html greg, w9gb Sent from iPad Air From devin at thecabal.org Wed Jun 27 23:09:11 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 23:09:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) In-Reply-To: References: <8D636887-8171-48B4-9F68-7B4F6E63F690@amsat.org> Message-ID: 7.3.7.1 is a clarification of 7.3.7 which is about *scoring*. -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email:?devin at thecabal.org web:?Devin on Earth cell:?+1 425.239.2575 > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of > JamesDuffey > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:50 AM > To: Matthew Stevens > Cc: amsat-bb ; Bruce > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) > > To me this rule: > > ?7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel > FM satellite.? > > Precludes stations from making more than one QSO on a FM bird. > > I suppose that this is subject to interpretation, but to me that the intent of > the rule is to make the FM satellites available to more people by rationing > QSOes to one per bird. Making more than a single QSO and not scoring them > or not entering them into the log does not make the satellite available to > more operators and seems to fly in the face of the rule. I understand why > people do it, and under some circumstances it may be a good idea, but to me > it is against the rule. > > Of course someone could ask the ARRL Contest Manager if this practice is OK, > but remember the old adage of not asking questions you don?t really want to > know the answer to. - Duffey KK6MC > > James Duffey KK6MC > Cedar Crest NM > > > On Jun 27, 2018, at 05:26, Matthew Stevens > wrote: > > > > Neither rule prevents you from making more than one FM contact. Both > > rules just prohibit you from SCORING more than one FM contact. > > > > 73 > > > > - Matthew nj4y > > > > > >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:21 AM, George Henry > wrote: > >> To have an AMSAT rule that directly conflicts with the ARRL > >> one-and-done rule is ridiculous. > >> > >> > >> George, KA3HSW > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > Bruce > >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:53 AM > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew) > >> > >> In the AMSAT rules we do state, because someone asked about it, you > >> can be a net control type station and work every station you want. > >> You would only be able to score one contact yourself but had given > >> many out to those trying to make the 100 point satellite bonus. > >> > >> We still feel by limiting to one FM contact that if you worked > >> someone and both of you leave the bird, two more stations can work > >> each other thereby maximazing the number of possible contacts on the > >> satellite during a single pass. > >> > >> 73...bruce > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wageners at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 00:42:24 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:42:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 for sale Message-ID: Selling my IC-9100. Pristine condition with D-Star, roofing filters, and 1,2GHz!!! For details see the listing on qrz.com 73, Stefan VE4NSA From wmc_jx at 163.com Thu Jun 28 00:43:16 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:43:16 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for This Weekend and Updated Live CD Message-ID: <258a86ff.17dc.16443d825ac.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: 30 Jun 00:00 to 30 Jun 02:00 30 Jun 05:00 to 30 Jun 07:00 30 Jun 16:00 to 30 Jun 18:00 1 Jul 07:00 to 1 Jul 09:00 All time in UTC. GMSK on both frequencies and JT4G on 436.4 for this week. Download link for live cd 20180620: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PYOVeBODC5nyTItDyvl6lDH8c5P4I0jX VY TNX & 73! Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From skristof at etczone.com Thu Jun 28 10:58:58 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 06:58:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging Message-ID: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to connect SDR# to WxtoImg. But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not sure what to try next. I know these aren't amateur radio satellites, but I'm hoping there's at least a few of you out there who are downloading weather satellite pictures and can help me out. All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Steve AI9IN From Mvivona at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 11:42:15 2018 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 07:42:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> Message-ID: Is this on a laptop? Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to connect SDR# to WxtoImg. But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not sure what to try next. I know these aren't amateur radio satellites, but I'm hoping there's at least a few of you out there who are downloading weather satellite pictures and can help me out. All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Steve AI9IN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Thu Jun 28 12:46:41 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:46:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> Message-ID: <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this laptop for a couple of years. On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > Is this on a laptop? > > Michael Vivona > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR > with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked > successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to > connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > > But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I > think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is > working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get > viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the > shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in > the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > > It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not > sure what to try next. > > I know these aren't amateur radio satellites, but I'm hoping there's at > least a few of you out there who are downloading weather satellite > pictures and can help me out. > > All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl0s at cox.net Thu Jun 28 12:59:43 2018 From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:59:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: <4Cmu1y02p4F0Vt701Cmw9J> References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <4Cmu1y02p4F0Vt701Cmw9J> Message-ID: As an aside for those of you who use the WX Sat app ?WxtoImg? for decoding those birds it appears that the web site has gone dark so make sure you keep a clean copy squirreled away in case something happens to your main app file. 73 - Dino KL0S > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this > laptop for a couple of years. > > On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > >> Is this on a laptop? >> >> Michael Vivona >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> >> To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR >> with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked >> successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to >> connect SDR# to WxtoImg. >> >> But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I >> think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is >> working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get >> viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the >> shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in >> the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. >> >> It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not >> sure what to try next. >> >> I know these aren't amateur radio satellites, but I'm hoping there's at >> least a few of you out there who are downloading weather satellite >> pictures and can help me out. >> >> All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. >> >> Steve AI9IN >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From peter at magicbug.co.uk Thu Jun 28 13:15:10 2018 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 14:15:10 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> Message-ID: Steve, Could be a few things, with SDR# running is the audio choppy through the speakers? you could lower the sample rate of the SDR also to see if that helps If the audio isn't choppy then it could be that there are not enough system resources so your getting dropped packets, I have that issue on an old desktop I use for wxsat decoding so I have turned off the main waterfall and spectrum display in SDR# which sorted it for me. Peter 2M0SQL On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 11:59, wrote: > To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR > with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked > successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to > connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > > But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I > think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is > working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get > viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the > shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in > the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > > It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not > sure what to try next. > > I know these aren't amateur radio satellites, but I'm hoping there's at > least a few of you out there who are downloading weather satellite > pictures and can help me out. > > All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Thu Jun 28 17:19:18 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 13:19:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Special News Release Message-ID: <5FED6433026A434FAC48A8B990F74F58@DHJ> ARISS Special News Release: ARISS Russia SSTV transmissions are scheduled to start tomorrow June 29, 2018 at 09:00 UTC and end on July 1, 2018 at 18:30 UTC. The images will be downlinked at 145.80 MHz using the SSTV mode PD-120. Received images can be viewed and posted at www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/ . Dave, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From robert at k3rrr.com Thu Jun 28 18:40:38 2018 From: robert at k3rrr.com (Robert) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 14:40:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2de83f0d-10cf-3fd5-3cad-c671dfd76d86@k3rrr.com> David, You might check out my web page at: http://k3rrr.com/cheap-computer-controlled-tv-rotor-for-amsat-satellites-and-includes-free-satellite-tracking-with-pstrotator-and-the-usb-uirt/ for a way to use a $65 for a? Jon Rhees USB-UIRT USB Universal Infrared Receiver and Transmitter to work with PstRotator for complete rotator control for working the satellites. The great thing is that the USB ? UIRT is totally plug-and-play once you download the drivers from the USB ? UIRT website. There is no programming or software involved with the gizmo. My web page has the link to the gizmo...and shows how to set up PstRotator to work with it. This worked flawlessly for me for the 11-12 months that I used it before upgrading to the M2 LEO PACK antennas and the Yaesu G-5500 az el rotator. Since you already have the Channel Master 9521A Rotator, all you should need is the USB-UIRT for about $65...sometimes, though rarely, they do show up on eBay...you also need PstRotator for about $21 if you don't already have this GREAT software package. 73, Robert K3RRR -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-. 73 de Robert K3RRR K3RRR.com <~~~~~~~~~~ Visit My Web Site @K3TripleR <~~~~~~~~~~ Follow Me On Twitter YouTube.com/K3RRR <~~ Check Out My Videos -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-. On 6/28/2018 1:25 PM, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Field Day (whew) (Matthew Stevens) > 2. Re: Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface (Gregory Beat) > 3. Re: Field Day (whew) (Devin L. Ganger) > 4. IC-9100 for sale (Stefan Wagener) > 5. DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for This Weekend and Updated Live CD (???) > 6. Weather sat imaging (skristof at etczone.com) > 7. Re: Weather sat imaging (Mvivona) > 8. Re: Weather sat imaging (skristof at etczone.com) > 9. Re: Weather sat imaging (Dino Papas) > 10. Re: Weather sat imaging (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) > 11. ARISS Special News Release (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ruthwillet at icloud.com Thu Jun 28 18:16:02 2018 From: ruthwillet at icloud.com (Ruth Willet) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 14:16:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM25 and FM26 Rove Message-ID: Good afternoon satellite chasers! I will be operating vacation style from FM25 and FM26 June 29 through July 6. My primarily QTH will be FM25, where I plan to be on a fair number of FM and linear passes throughout the week. I will be operating from FM26 during Walmart Parking Lots on the Air from Walmart #2000! I also hope to stop in FM26 for a pass or two on 6/29 and 7/06 when we are coming into and out of the Outer Banks. If you need either of these grids, please let me know! Here are some passes that I will try to be on with their approximate direction from my location. This schedule will change throughout the week since I am on a family vacation. I will do my best to work whoever needs the grid and to post updates when I will be on a pass! I am happy to set up skeds on particular birds if a pass I have listed so far does not work. FM26 Friday June 29, 2018 AO-86 22:35z 31?W FO-29 23:19z 42?E SO-50 23:24z 11?NE FM25 Saturday June 30 SO-50 0103z 88?NE FO-29 0105z 45?W FO-29 13:00z 7?W XW-2A 13:55z 19?W SO-50 23:48z 54?NE Sunday July 1 FO-29 00:09z 72?W SO-50 02:30z 15?W AO-91 18:28z 23?W Monday July 2 SO-50 00:14z 59?SW FO-29 13:00z 27?W FM26 Walmart Parking Lots on the Air from Walmart Supercenter #2000 Monday July 2 XW-2A 14:14z 11?W SO-50 14:25z 86?NW SO-50 14:05z 10?NW AO-91 17:13z 67?E AO-91 18:51z 14?W FM25 Tuesday July 3 SO-50 00:38z 23?SW AO-91 16:00z 13?NE FO-29 23:09z 36?E Wednesday July 4 FO-29 00:54z 30?W Other passes TBD based on July 4th activities Thursday July 5 SO-50 14:00z 49?NW FM26 Friday July 6 AO-92 15:17z 51W AO-91 18:53z 17?W In addition, I plan to operate some HF as well. I?m happy to hand out the grid if you need it for the International Grid Chase, Dare County for county chasing, or if you just want a QSO. 73, Ruth KM4LAO From ruthwillet at icloud.com Thu Jun 28 19:18:36 2018 From: ruthwillet at icloud.com (Ruth Willet) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 15:18:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM25 and FM26 Rove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EEAA2F9-92BF-4CF8-AB24-0B8BF136FD16@icloud.com> The first pass on the list should be Friday June 29 AO-85 22:35z 31W 73, Ruth KM4LAO Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Ruth Willet wrote: > > Good afternoon satellite chasers! > > I will be operating vacation style from FM25 and FM26 June 29 through July 6. My primarily QTH will be FM25, where I plan to be on a fair number of FM and linear passes throughout the week. I will be operating from FM26 during Walmart Parking Lots on the Air from Walmart #2000! I also hope to stop in FM26 for a pass or two on 6/29 and 7/06 when we are coming into and out of the Outer Banks. If you need either of these grids, please let me know! > > Here are some passes that I will try to be on with their approximate direction from my location. This schedule will change throughout the week since I am on a family vacation. I will do my best to work whoever needs the grid and to post updates when I will be on a pass! I am happy to set up skeds on particular birds if a pass I have listed so far does not work. > > > FM26 > Friday June 29, 2018 > AO-86 22:35z 31?W > FO-29 23:19z 42?E > SO-50 23:24z 11?NE > > FM25 > Saturday June 30 > SO-50 0103z 88?NE > FO-29 0105z 45?W > > FO-29 13:00z 7?W > XW-2A 13:55z 19?W > SO-50 23:48z 54?NE > > Sunday July 1 > FO-29 00:09z 72?W > SO-50 02:30z 15?W > AO-91 18:28z 23?W > > Monday July 2 > SO-50 00:14z 59?SW > FO-29 13:00z 27?W > > FM26 > Walmart Parking Lots on the Air from Walmart Supercenter #2000 > Monday July 2 > XW-2A 14:14z 11?W > SO-50 14:25z 86?NW > SO-50 14:05z 10?NW > AO-91 17:13z 67?E > AO-91 18:51z 14?W > > FM25 > Tuesday July 3 > SO-50 00:38z 23?SW > AO-91 16:00z 13?NE > FO-29 23:09z 36?E > > Wednesday July 4 > FO-29 00:54z 30?W > Other passes TBD based on July 4th activities > > Thursday July 5 > SO-50 14:00z 49?NW > > FM26 > Friday July 6 > AO-92 15:17z 51W > AO-91 18:53z 17?W > > In addition, I plan to operate some HF as well. I?m happy to hand out the grid if you need it for the International Grid Chase, Dare County for county chasing, or if you just want a QSO. > > 73, > Ruth > KM4LAO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From spatrickfay at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 19:27:51 2018 From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 14:27:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface In-Reply-To: <2de83f0d-10cf-3fd5-3cad-c671dfd76d86@k3rrr.com> References: <2de83f0d-10cf-3fd5-3cad-c671dfd76d86@k3rrr.com> Message-ID: Can confirm that this set up of Roberts is the best thing around for Channel Master set up. I scored a channel master rotor at a thrift store for $1.98 and found the link he just shared. Its really upped my tracking game. On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:03 PM Robert wrote: > David, > > You might check out my web page at: > > > http://k3rrr.com/cheap-computer-controlled-tv-rotor-for-amsat-satellites-and-includes-free-satellite-tracking-with-pstrotator-and-the-usb-uirt/ > > for a way to use a $65 for a Jon Rhees USB-UIRT USB Universal Infrared > Receiver and Transmitter to work with PstRotator for complete rotator > control for working the satellites. > > The great thing is that the USB ? UIRT is totally plug-and-play once you > download the drivers from the USB ? UIRT website. There is no > programming or software involved with the gizmo. > > My web page has the link to the gizmo...and shows how to set up > PstRotator to work with it. > > This worked flawlessly for me for the 11-12 months that I used it before > upgrading to the M2 LEO PACK antennas and the Yaesu G-5500 az el rotator. > > Since you already have the Channel Master 9521A Rotator, all you should > need is the USB-UIRT for about $65...sometimes, though rarely, they do > show up on eBay...you also need PstRotator for about $21 if you don't > already have this GREAT software package. > > 73, > > Robert > K3RRR > > -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-. > 73 de Robert K3RRR > K3RRR.com <~~~~~~~~~~ Visit My Web Site > @K3TripleR <~~~~~~~~~~ Follow Me On Twitter > YouTube.com/K3RRR <~~ Check Out My Videos > -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-. > > On 6/28/2018 1:25 PM, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Field Day (whew) (Matthew Stevens) > > 2. Re: Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface (Gregory Beat) > > 3. Re: Field Day (whew) (Devin L. Ganger) > > 4. IC-9100 for sale (Stefan Wagener) > > 5. DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for This Weekend and Updated Live CD > (???) > > 6. Weather sat imaging (skristof at etczone.com) > > 7. Re: Weather sat imaging (Mvivona) > > 8. Re: Weather sat imaging (skristof at etczone.com) > > 9. Re: Weather sat imaging (Dino Papas) > > 10. Re: Weather sat imaging (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) > > 11. ARISS Special News Release (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons > worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Thu Jun 28 20:06:37 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 16:06:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC Message-ID: <16448013a18-c8e-ded4@webjas-vab161.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact was successful: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg (***) ? Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, direct via W9DWJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-02 15:35:42 UTC 33 deg ? Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany, direct via DL?IL The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-03 08:32:16 UTC 52 deg (***) ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS Russia SSTV transmissions are scheduled to start tomorrow June 29, 2018 at 09:00 UTC and end on July 1, 2018 at 18:30 UTC. The images will be downlinked at 145.80 MHz using the SSTV mode PD-120. Received images can be viewed and posted at www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/. ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-28 19:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1234. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 11821. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From charlieray at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 20:16:16 2018 From: charlieray at gmail.com (Charles Reiche) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 16:16:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910h preamp power and inline coax switch. Message-ID: I am getting up to speed on working NO-84 with my TH-D72a. My primary antenna system and radio is IC-910h with the Icom Preamp installed near the antenna. The 910 powers the preamp through the coax, and I tend to leave the preamp on selection on the radio on all the time. I want to put a MFJ1702C coax switch inline with the 2m side so I can branch out the 2m antenna to my HT. The non selected port of the coax switch is grounded. If you accidentally ground the IC-910's coax with the preamp selected on, does it damage the preamp power circuit or is it tolerant of a short? I could not find a definitive answer in the manual other than the preamp may not activate properly. I know it wont power up the preamp. Inevitably, if I have to rely on remembering to turn off the preamp before I switch to the HT to work NO-84, I will forget. Just want to prevent burning something up. Thanks for any suggestions. N3CRT Charles Reiche From scott23192 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 23:11:57 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 19:11:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Channel Master 9521A Rotator interface In-Reply-To: References: <2de83f0d-10cf-3fd5-3cad-c671dfd76d86@k3rrr.com> Message-ID: If anyone needs one more positive review to help them decide, I can also vouch for the USB ? UIRT / PstRotator method of giving yourself a very inexpensive way to have a fully-functional AZ-only rotator. It's been a wonderful solution for me and works great. I use Orbitron for sat tracking and that talks to the PstRotator software just fine. Now that we have the DSLWP satellite in lunar orbit, PstRotator can switch from sat tracking to moon tracking with one click. -Scott, K4KDR ========================= On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 3:27 PM, sean fay wrote: > Can confirm that this set up of Roberts is the best thing around for > Channel Master set up. I scored a channel master rotor at a thrift store > for $1.98 and found the link he just shared. Its really upped my tracking > game. > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:03 PM Robert wrote: > > > David, > > > > You might check out my web page at: > > > > > > http://k3rrr.com/cheap-computer-controlled-tv-rotor- > for-amsat-satellites-and-includes-free-satellite- > tracking-with-pstrotator-and-the-usb-uirt/ > > > > for a way to use a $65 for a Jon Rhees USB-UIRT USB Universal Infrared > > Receiver and Transmitter to work with PstRotator for complete rotator > > control for working the satellites. > > > > The great thing is that the USB ? UIRT is totally plug-and-play once you > > download the drivers from the USB ? UIRT website. There is no > > programming or software involved with the gizmo. > > > > My web page has the link to the gizmo...and shows how to set up > > PstRotator to work with it. > > > > This worked flawlessly for me for the 11-12 months that I used it before > > upgrading to the M2 LEO PACK antennas and the Yaesu G-5500 az el rotator. > > > > Since you already have the Channel Master 9521A Rotator, all you should > > need is the USB-UIRT for about $65...sometimes, though rarely, they do > > show up on eBay...you also need PstRotator for about $21 if you don't > > already have this GREAT software package. > > > > 73, > > > > Robert > > K3RRR > > > > -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-. > > 73 de Robert K3RRR > > K3RRR.com <~~~~~~~~~~ Visit My Web Site > > @K3TripleR <~~~~~~~~~~ Follow Me On Twitter > > YouTube.com/K3RRR <~~ Check Out My Videos From Mvivona at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 23:17:26 2018 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 19:17:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> Message-ID: <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> The reason I asked if it was the laptop is that I had a similar issue on my laptop. I had it all running fine with the connection from the microphone jack out of my radio then all of a sudden one day it was breaking images. I came to find out that somehow the input got switched to the microphone and it was picking up the sound from the speaker through the microphone. A couple of other things that I would look at would be making sure my bandwith is set to Wide FM @ 30khz and any noise filters are off. I'm sure you will trip across some little item and I have that Aha moment. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this laptop for a couple of years. > On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > > Is this on a laptop? > > Michael Vivona > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR > with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked > successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to > connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > > But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I > think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is > working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get > viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the > shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in > the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > > It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not > sure what to try next. > > I know these aren't amateur radio satellites, but I'm hoping there's at > least a few of you out there who are downloading weather satellite > pictures and can help me out. > > All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl0s at cox.net Fri Jun 29 01:17:34 2018 From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 21:17:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal May-June Issue Problem Message-ID: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> Hopefully I?m the only one who received a defective copy of the latest Journal?when I get to page 8 the pages start again with the front cover thru page 8! It?s missing pages 9-24. I sent Martha a note asking for a replacement. Was just curious if I was the only one who got one of these printer errors. 73 - Dino KL0S From scott23192 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 01:21:20 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 21:21:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal May-June Issue Problem In-Reply-To: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> References: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> Message-ID: Mine was the same & Martha is also very kindly sending me a replacement copy. -Scott, K4KDR ====================== On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Dino Papas wrote: > Hopefully I?m the only one who received a defective copy of the latest > Journal?when I get to page 8 the pages start again with the front cover > thru page 8! It?s missing pages 9-24. I sent Martha a note asking for a > replacement. > > Was just curious if I was the only one who got one of these printer errors. > > 73 - Dino KL0S From devin at thecabal.org Fri Jun 29 03:44:45 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:44:45 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite memory file for TH-D72a Message-ID: Greetings, Does anyone have (or know where one is available on the web) an working importable memory file for FM satellites for a TH-D72a, using either the Kenwood program or CHIRP? I've been trying to put one together on my own and I'm finding conflicting sources of information on various satellites. Thanks in advance, -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email: devin at thecabal.org web: Devin on Earth cell: +1 425.239.2575 From ka3hsw at att.net Fri Jun 29 04:04:20 2018 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:04:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910h preamp power and inline coax switch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7827FCC71BB84C9A9B041AC1CD91B56E@RadioRoomPC> Many antennas present a DC short, so the preamp power is current-limited, and you will not damage it by using an antenna switch that shorts the connection when switched. 73, George, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Charles Reiche Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 3:16 PM To: Amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910h preamp power and inline coax switch. I am getting up to speed on working NO-84 with my TH-D72a. My primary antenna system and radio is IC-910h with the Icom Preamp installed near the antenna. The 910 powers the preamp through the coax, and I tend to leave the preamp on selection on the radio on all the time. I want to put a MFJ1702C coax switch inline with the 2m side so I can branch out the 2m antenna to my HT. The non selected port of the coax switch is grounded. If you accidentally ground the IC-910's coax with the preamp selected on, does it damage the preamp power circuit or is it tolerant of a short? I could not find a definitive answer in the manual other than the preamp may not activate properly. I know it wont power up the preamp. Inevitably, if I have to rely on remembering to turn off the preamp before I switch to the HT to work NO-84, I will forget. Just want to prevent burning something up. Thanks for any suggestions. N3CRT Charles Reiche _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pmcclosky at earthlink.net Fri Jun 29 02:07:44 2018 From: pmcclosky at earthlink.net (Peter J. McClosky) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 19:07:44 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal May-June Issue Problem In-Reply-To: References: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> Message-ID: <13FAE2AE-AC03-4E85-9303-DBAC97D5763C@earthlink.net> Mine was fine. ----- Peter J. McClosky, N7IY Eugene, Oregon pmcclosky at earthlink.net n7iy at arrl.net http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ > On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Scott wrote: > > Mine was the same & Martha is also very kindly sending me a replacement > copy. > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ====================== > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Dino Papas wrote: > >> Hopefully I?m the only one who received a defective copy of the latest >> Journal?when I get to page 8 the pages start again with the front cover >> thru page 8! It?s missing pages 9-24. I sent Martha a note asking for a >> replacement. >> >> Was just curious if I was the only one who got one of these printer errors. >> >> 73 - Dino KL0S > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kdcarlso at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 12:45:07 2018 From: kdcarlso at gmail.com (Dave .) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 08:45:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-D74 & SATPC-32 Message-ID: Does anyone know if the Kenwood TH-D74 can be controlled with SATPC-32? I'd like to take that and my IC-7100 camping, using the Kenwood for the downlink frequency. It's a much smaller package than dragging the 9100. Thanks, Dave N2OA From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jun 29 13:16:43 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:16:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-D74 & SATPC-32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Theoretically, the TH-D74 can be computer controlled through undocumented commands (see https://github.com/LA3QMA/TH-D74-Kenwood). However, SatPC32 does not support it. If you really want a lightweight package, leave the computer at home and just tune manually. Computer control takes the fun out of it anyway. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Dave . wrote: > Does anyone know if the Kenwood TH-D74 can be controlled with SATPC-32? I'd > like to take that and my IC-7100 camping, using the Kenwood for the > downlink frequency. It's a much smaller package than dragging the 9100. > > Thanks, > > Dave > N2OA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb2ysi at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 13:30:13 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:30:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-D74 & SATPC-32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the pointer to that GitHub. My attempted SSB setup is exactly what Dave mentioned, TH-D74 & an IC-7100. I just made the boom PTT button so I could have a free hand to tune, since the Mic up/down buttons tune in too big of steps on the IC-7100. 73, Don KB2YSI On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 09:17 Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Theoretically, the TH-D74 can be computer controlled through undocumented > commands (see https://github.com/LA3QMA/TH-D74-Kenwood). > > However, SatPC32 does not support it. > > If you really want a lightweight package, leave the computer at home and > just tune manually. Computer control takes the fun out of it anyway. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Dave . wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the Kenwood TH-D74 can be controlled with SATPC-32? > I'd > > like to take that and my IC-7100 camping, using the Kenwood for the > > downlink frequency. It's a much smaller package than dragging the 9100. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > N2OA > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wageners at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 13:36:12 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 08:36:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-D74 & SATPC-32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Computer control takes the fun out of it anyway." Could NOT disagree more! It is another valued aspect of the hobby. 73, Stefan VE4NSA On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:19 AM Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Theoretically, the TH-D74 can be computer controlled through undocumented > commands (see https://github.com/LA3QMA/TH-D74-Kenwood). > > However, SatPC32 does not support it. > > If you really want a lightweight package, leave the computer at home and > just tune manually. Computer control takes the fun out of it anyway. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Dave . wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the Kenwood TH-D74 can be controlled with SATPC-32? > I'd > > like to take that and my IC-7100 camping, using the Kenwood for the > > downlink frequency. It's a much smaller package than dragging the 9100. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > N2OA > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ny4i at ny4i.com Fri Jun 29 13:50:15 2018 From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:50:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-D74 & SATPC-32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C184395-FBDD-4395-BD81-52245F0E2CA5@ny4i.com> I read Paul?s statement as simply his opinion of what takes the fun out of it for him. Half the fun for me is to watch the computer control the hardware?turn the rotor and set the frequency. It?s still not easy but even if I don't make a contact, the automation is a fun part of satellite ops for me. Tom NY4I > On Jun 29, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > > "Computer control takes the fun out of it anyway." > > Could NOT disagree more! It is another valued aspect of the hobby. > > 73, Stefan VE4NSA > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:19 AM Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> Theoretically, the TH-D74 can be computer controlled through undocumented >> commands (see https://github.com/LA3QMA/TH-D74-Kenwood). >> >> However, SatPC32 does not support it. >> >> If you really want a lightweight package, leave the computer at home and >> just tune manually. Computer control takes the fun out of it anyway. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Dave . wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know if the Kenwood TH-D74 can be controlled with SATPC-32? >> I'd >>> like to take that and my IC-7100 camping, using the Kenwood for the >>> downlink frequency. It's a much smaller package than dragging the 9100. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dave >>> N2OA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From charlieray at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 13:51:58 2018 From: charlieray at gmail.com (Charles Reiche) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:51:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite memory file for TH-D72a In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is briefly how I do it, Recieve on the A band Transmit on the B band Store the downlink frequencies with a name like AO-91 A Store the uplink like AO-91 B In the Memory mode, I transfer the frequency to VFO mode with F (press the Function key)- VFO (press VFO key) on the 70cm frew so that I can adjust for doppler. Patrick WD9EWK posted some info here: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/configuring-my-th-d72a-for-satellites.580191/ " I have some files, including an MC4 file with a copy of a configuration from my TH-D72A, along with some other information on using this radio on satellites (voice and packet). You can go to http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ and look in the TH-D72A folder for those files. " Charles Reiche On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:44 PM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: > Greetings, > > Does anyone have (or know where one is available on the web) an working > importable memory file for FM satellites for a TH-D72a, using either the > Kenwood program or CHIRP? I've been trying to put one together on my own > and I'm finding conflicting sources of information on various satellites. > > Thanks in advance, > > > -- > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) > email: devin at thecabal.org > web: Devin on Earth > cell: +1 425.239.2575 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From g0mrf at aol.com Fri Jun 29 13:52:52 2018 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:52:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Es'hail-2 transverter ready Message-ID: <1644bd16a66-c96-1645d@webjas-vaa049.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Remco. That is a really nice solution for a S/X transverter. I guess the LO module is some sort of eval board and works somewhere near 1968MHz on TX. Working simplex removes any problem of desense to the 10GHz downlink but I wonder if there is an issue where you are unable to hear the 'Leila' signal if it decides to transmit on top of you? Hope to work you later this year. I see there are a few unofficial sources saying 'August 18'......Although there are an equal number still saying 2016.........I guess we just wait. 73 David G0MRF I built my second Es'hail-2 transverter with easy available building blocks and junk box / flea market components. I consider the future (narrow band) transponder as a 'normal' amateur band (with latency) and therefore will operate 'simplex'. This means the LO frequencies are switched by the PTT (TX-enable). Picture: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgZGilPWsAAWSQh.jpg:large Some technical details: RX / TX LO: ADF4351, programmed by an ATTiny13a TX mixer: HMC213 RX mixer: home brew with ADE-1 + J310 HPA: surplus ex-UMTS module (P-1 dB @2400 MHz = 10W) IF RX / TX: 432 MHz (or something else) Dish feed: 6t 2.4 GHz LHCP helix and 10 GHz LNB 'peek a booing' through the helix 73, Remco PA3FYM From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jun 29 14:26:33 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:26:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL on 02 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:35 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and W9DWJ The contact should be audible over the state of Illnois and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. The Pearl Technology/Richwoods Township STEM Academy is a joint effort involving central Illinois organizations collaborating to educate local middle school students interested in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM). Together with Richwoods Township and the University of Illinois Extension, Pearl Technology helped found the first STEM Academy in 2016. Richwoods Township wanted to start a STEM Academy for local students in the Peoria Heights, IL area. The University of Illinois Extension has a strong history of running successful STEM Camps, and Pearl Technology provides the funding and technology for the annual STEM Academy. During the 2018 STEM Academy, held June 18-22, students built Raspberry Pi devices programmed to stream live video from the International Space Station and show the location of the ISS in its orbit. Students also took part in a high-altitude balloon launch and tracked it using APRS on amateur radio. Caterpillar engineers set up a virtual reality Mars environment and spoke to the students regarding NASA's 3-D Printed Habitat Challenge and Caterpillar's participation in the Challenge. The Challenge is designed to advance the construction technology needed to create sustainable housing solutions for the moon and Mars, using 3-D printing with materials found there. Students also learned about amateur radio, listened to the Dean of Engineering at Bradley University speak about STEM education, and talked with the Vice President of the Peoria Riverfront Museum about life on the ISS. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What is your relationship like with your fellow astronauts? 2. What is the most stressful part of space? 3. Can you tell one of the most exciting things you have seen in space? 4. Do you see any other planets? 5. What was the longest you have been in space? 6. What do you enjoy most about being in space? 7. What do you do for fun? 8. What kind of work do you do daily aboard the ISS? 9. What is one of the most difficult challenges you face in space? 10. Are there any types of ores on the moon? 11. What is the best and worst part of being in zero gravity 24 hours a day? 12. What happens when you sneeze in space? 13. What is one aspect of life on Earth that you miss? 14. Can you have pets in space? 15. Are you scared being so high from Earth? 16. What is the first thing you will eat when you get home? 17. Did you always want to work on the ISS? If not, what career did you start with and how did it lead you here? 18. What happens to the food you bring up into the space station? 19. What are your favorite jobs to do on the ISS? 20. How do you communicate with the foreign astronauts on the ISS? 21. What is something you enjoy more in space than when you do it on Earth? 22. What is the most beautiful aspect about Earth seen from space? 23. How do you resolve disputes with your fellow astronauts? 24. What is your favorite city to look at from space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany, direct via DL?IL The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-03 08:32 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From skristof at etczone.com Fri Jun 29 15:55:46 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 11:55:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, I reloaded SDR# and VB audio virtual cable. The weather sat image is still shredded horizontally. I checked the website for WxtoImg and it is blank. Does anyone know of any other software for decoding and displaying weather satellite images? Any other suggestions on getting this fixed will be appreciated. Steve AI9IN On 2018-06-28 19:17, Mvivona wrote: > The reason I asked if it was the laptop is that I had a similar issue on my laptop. I had it all running fine with the connection from the microphone jack out of my radio then all of a sudden one day it was breaking images. I came to find out that somehow the input got switched to the microphone and it was picking up the sound from the speaker through the microphone. > A couple of other things that I would look at would be making sure my bandwith is set to Wide FM @ 30khz and any noise filters are off. > I'm sure you will trip across some little item and I have that Aha moment. > > Michael Vivona > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this > laptop for a couple of years. > >> On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: >> >> Is this on a laptop? >> >> Michael Vivona >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> >> To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR >> with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked >> successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to >> connect SDR# to WxtoImg. >> >> But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I >> think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is >> working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get >> viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the >> shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in >> the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. >> >> It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not >> sure what to try next. >> >> All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. >> >> Steve AI9IN From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jun 29 16:08:55 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:08:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany on 03 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:32 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between DP0ISS and DL0IL The contact should be audible over Germany and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in German. Schulbeschreibung KFG Bonn Das Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium (KFG) ist ein privates Gymnasium der Erzdi?zese K?ln. Das KFG ist in Bonn-Beuel jedoch keineswegs eine typische lokale Schule, sondern lenkt die Richtung ihrer p?dagogischen Arbeit auch auf das Niveau regionaler und ?berregionaler Strukturen. Fremdsprachenprofil Im Sinne der Qualifikation f?r soziale und kulturelle Teilhabe im nationalen und internationalen Raum bieten wir unseren Sch?lern im Bereich der Sprachen m?glichst breite M?glichkeiten. Dies wird deutlich in der besonderen Stellung des Lateischen, welche am KFG obligatorisch ist. Ein weiterer Schwerpunkt liegt auf der Vermittlung von Fremdsprachen in und au?erhalb des Klassenzimmers. Dazu geh?ren neben Englisch, Franz?sisch und Spanisch auch Angebote f?r Arbeitsgruppen (Italienisch, Chinesisch) sowie der bilinguale Fachunterricht (Englisch) der Gesellschaftswissenschaften in Klasse 8 und 9 in der differenzierten Mittelstufe. Dar?ber hinaus gibt es spezielle Austauschprogramme und Studienreisen nach England, Australien, Chile, Italien und Spanien. Unser EU-Projekt Erasmus+ kooperiert mit Schulen in Finnland, Italien und Rum?nien und bietet weitere wertvolle Einblicke in fremde Kulturen. Das KFG als MINT-freundliche Schule Das KFG ist seit 2016 als "MINT-freundliche Schule" zertifiziert. Ausgehend von den MINT-F?chern (Mathematik, Informatik, Naturwissenschaften, Technik) entwickeln unsere Sch?ler die grundlegenden Kompetenzen im Umgang mit der belebten und unbelebten Natur. Unsere Unterrichtsstrukturen sind vielf?ltig und werden durch verschiedene Projekte erg?nzt. Regelm??ig besuchen wir mit diesen Projekte auch au?erschulische Lernorte. Wir nutzen unsere guten Kontakte zu Universit?ten, Forschungsinstituten und Unternehmen im Raum K?ln-Bonn. Durch die intensiven Kontakte zum Sch?lerlabor (School_Lab) des DLR (Deutsches Zentrum f?r Luft- und Raumfahrt, Dr. Richard Br?ucker) in K?ln-Porz kann dieser Lernort regelm??ig besucht werden, insbesondere von Physikkursen. Gleiches gilt f?r das Sch?lerlabor Covesto Science Lab (vormals Baylab) in Leverkusen, das regelm??ig Grund- und Leistungskurse in Chemie besucht. Die Informatik wird von unserem Kooperationspartner amcm, einem mittelst?ndischen IT-Unternehmen, unterst?tzt. F?r technisch interessierte Sch?ler kann KAUTEX Maschinenbau eingesetzt werden. Das KFG ist ein langj?hriges Ausbildungszentrum f?r die Chemieausbildung der Bezirksregierung K?ln und des Kompetenzzentrums Bonn, und somit sind die Mitarbeiter st?ndig am didaktischen Puls der Zeit. Seit 2017 verf?gt die biologische Abteilung der KFG ?ber zwei eigene Fluoreszenzmikroskope, die beide von unserem Kooperationspartner ZEISS betreut werden. Die Mikroskopie ist ein Schwerpunkt unserer praxisorientierten Lehre. Die Kooperation mit der Fachdidaktik Biologie der Universit?t zu K?ln, die 2016/17 vereinbart wurde, wird unsere Bem?hungen um kontinuierliche Innovation in unserem Biologieunterricht weiter intensivieren. Translated: The Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium (KFG) is a private high-school grammar school in the archdiocese of Cologne. Located in Bonn-Beuel, however, the KFG is by no means a typical local part-school, but rather directs its direction for the pedagogical work beyond the local viewpoint to the level of regional and supra-regional structures. Foreign language profile In the sense of the qualification for social and cultural participation in national and international space, we provide our pupils in the area of languages as broadly as possible. This becomes clear in the special position of the Latin, which is obligatory at the KFG. Another focus is on teaching in- and outside the classroom in modern foreign languages. In addition to teaching in English, French and Spanish, this also includes offers for work groups (Italian, Chinese) as well as the bilingual subject teaching (English) of the social sciences in class 8 and 9 within the differentiated intermediate level. In addition there are special exchange programs and study trips to England, Australia, Chile, Italy and Spain. Our EU [European Union] project Erasmus+ cooperates with schools in Finland, Italy and Romania and offers valuable insights into foreign cultures. The KFG as MINT(STEM)-friendly school The KFG has been certified "MINT-friendly school" since 2016. On the basis of the MINT subjects (mathematics, computer science, natural sciences, technology), our students develop the basic competencies in dealing with the animate and inanimate nature. The usual teaching structures are varied and supplemented by various projects. Regularly these projects also involve the search for out-of-school learning places. We use our good contacts with universities, research institutes and companies in the Cologne-Bonn area. By intensifying the contact to the school lab of the DLR (German Center for Aerospace, Dr. Richard Br?ucker) in Cologne-Porz, this place of learning can be visited regularly, especially by students of physics. The same applies to the student laboratory Covesto Science Lab (formerly Baylab) in Leverkusen, which is regularly attended by basic and advanced courses in chemistry. Computer science is supported by our cooperation partner amcm, a medium-sized IT company. For students interested in technology, KAUTEX mechanical engineering can be used. The KFG is a long-term training center for the chemistry education of the district government of Cologne and the Competence Center of Bonn, and thus the staff is continually at the didactics pulse of the time. Since 2017 the biological department of KFG has two own fluorescence microscopes, both of which are maintained by our cooperation partner, the ZEISS company, microscopy is a focus of our practice-oriented teaching. The cooperation with the Fachdidaktik Biologie of the University of Cologne, which was agreed in 2016/17, will further intensify our efforts to achieve continuous innovation in our biology teaching. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. Wie haben Sie es geschafft, zuerst als Astronaut und dann sogar als Kommandant ausgew?hlt zu werden? 2. Nach welcher Zeitzone / Uhrzeit richtet sich die ISS - Besatzung und wird durch den Weltraumflug das Zeitgef?hl beeinflusst? 3. Was ist das Interessanteste, dass Sie beim Blick auf die Erde gesehen haben und was war Ihr bester Blick auf die Erde? 4. Welche ?u?erliche (geographische) Ver?nderung der Erde haben Sie verglichen mit ihrem ersten Flug bisher beobachtet? 5. Welche Mission war/ist gef?hrlicher oder spannender? Die erste oder die zweite? 6. Die Betriebskosten der ISS sind sehr hoch. Warum lohnt sich Ihrer Meinung nach der Kosten-Nutzen-Aufwand? 7. Inwiefern hat sich durch die Erfahrungen, die Sie im All gemacht haben, Ihre Sicht auf die Erde und die Menschheit ver?ndert? 8. Werden Sie wieder eine Wette mit ihren Kollegen ?ber den Ausgang der Fu?ball-Weltmeisterschaft machen? 9. Wie halten Sie Ihren K?rper in Form und was unternehmen Sie gegen den Muskelabbau? 10. Wie sieht es mit Ihrer `work-life-balance` aus? Wie viele Tage arbeiten Sie und wie viele haben Sie frei? 11. Wie ist die Schlafenszeit der Teams geregelt und wie schwierig ist es in der Schwerelosigkeit einzuschlafen? 12. Was finden Sie am Projekt ICARUS so interessant? 13. Stimmt es, dass man im Weltall nicht so schnell ?lter wird? 14. Welche Rituale haben die Astronauten, z.B. beim Start oder bei der Landung? 15. Wenn man die Chance hat, die Welt von au?en zu betrachten, wird es dann schwieriger an Gott und die Religion zu glauben? 16. Wie gehen Sie mit dem Risiko um, dass ein Start oder eine R?ckkehr fehlschlagen k?nnte und wird dieses Risiko ?berhaupt besprochen? 17. Wie lange wird es noch dauern, bis Menschen auf dem Mond oder Mars leben und dort Pflanzen anbauen k?nnen? 18. Welchen Einfluss hat die Schwerelosigkeit auf den Menstruationszyklus bei Astronautinnen? 19. Was tun Sie dagegen, in der Isolation des Weltraums nicht pl?tzlich depressiv zu werden? 20. Hat sich einer der Astronauten schon einmal verletzt und welche Versorgungen gibt es in so einem Fall? 21. Besteht die Gefahr von Erkrankungen auf der ISS und wie sch?tzen Sie sich dagegen? 22. Glauben Sie, dass es noch andere Lebewesen im Weltall gibt? 23. Welche Zellen erforschen Sie mit dem Fluoreszenz-Mikroskop und wie funktioniert das? 24. Wie halten Astronauten st?ndigen Kontakt mit ihren Familien und wie schwer ist f?r beide Seiten die lange Trennung? 25. Welche Auswirkungen hat das Zusammenleben auf engstem Raum und treten mal auch Konflikte auf? 26. Wie hilft die Weltraumforschung, Menschen auf eine Reise zum Mars vorzubereiten? 27. Ist es nicht unangenehm und langweilig eine so lange Zeit in einem Raumanzug verbringen zu m?ssen? Translated: 1. How did you manage to be selected first as an astronaut and then as a commander? 2. According to which time zone / time the ISS crew is directed and how space flight influences the sense of time? 3. What is the most interesting thing that you saw when you looked at the earth when you were in space? What was your best view of Earth? 4. Compared to your first flight, how the Earth has changed geographically until now? 5. Which mission was / is more dangerous or more exciting? The first or the second one? 6. The operating costs of the ISS are very high. Why is the cost-benefit effort worthwhile in your opinion? 7. Because of the experiences you have made in space, has your view of Earth and humanity changed? 8. Will you again make a bet with your colleagues about the outcome of the Soccer World Cup? 9. How do you keep your body in shape and what are you doing against muscle loss? 10. Which `work - life - balance` do you have on board? How many days do you work and how many days do you have free time? 11. How the sleep time of the teams is regulated and how difficult is it to sleep in weightlessness? 12. What do you think is interesting about the project ICARUS? 13. Is it true that in space you are not getting older so fast? 14. Which kind of rituals the astronauts have, e.g. at the start or landing? 15. If, like you, you have a chance to look at the world from outside, does it become more difficult to believe in God and religion? 16. How do you handle the risk that a start or a return will fail? Is the risk even discussed? 17. How long will it take for humans to live on the Moon or Mars and when plants will grow there? 18. What influence weightlessness has on the menstrual cycle? 19. What are you doing at the ISS against depression caused by isolation? 20. Has one of the astronauts ever been injured and what supplies are there in such a case? 21. Is there a risk of illness on the ISS and how do you protect against it? 22. Do you believe that there are other living beings in the universe? 23. Which kind of cells do you explore with the fluorescence microscope and how it works? 24. How the astronauts maintain constant contact with their families, and how difficult for both sides is the long separation? 25. In which way the coexistence in such a narrow space effects your all day life and do conflicts occur? 26. How Does Space Research Help Prepare Humans for a Journey to Mars? 27. Is not it annoying and boring to spend so much time in a spacesuit? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Jun 29 16:23:04 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:23:04 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 Operations Message-ID: <6f70d6dd-1d68-ccf1-db22-97e361f6c892@btinternet.com> Hi All, Just to let you know that AO73/FUNcube-1 is now in continuous amateur mode for the weekend with the transponder on with low power telemetry. Have fun! 73 Graham G3VZV From matthew at mrstevens.net Fri Jun 29 19:32:44 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 15:32:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal May-June Issue Problem In-Reply-To: <13FAE2AE-AC03-4E85-9303-DBAC97D5763C@earthlink.net> References: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> <13FAE2AE-AC03-4E85-9303-DBAC97D5763C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Mine was not fine... :-) - Matthew nj4y On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Peter J. McClosky wrote: > Mine was fine. > ----- > Peter J. McClosky, N7IY > Eugene, Oregon > pmcclosky at earthlink.net > n7iy at arrl.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ > >> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Scott wrote: >> >> Mine was the same & Martha is also very kindly sending me a replacement >> copy. >> >> -Scott, K4KDR >> >> >> ====================== >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Dino Papas wrote: >> >>> Hopefully I?m the only one who received a defective copy of the latest >>> Journal?when I get to page 8 the pages start again with the front cover >>> thru page 8! It?s missing pages 9-24. I sent Martha a note asking for a >>> replacement. >>> >>> Was just curious if I was the only one who got one of these printer errors. >>> >>> 73 - Dino KL0S >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 19:57:55 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 15:57:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, How about WXtrack? http://www.satsignal.eu/software/wxtrack.htm 73, Mark N8MH On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:55 AM, wrote: > Well, I reloaded SDR# and VB audio virtual cable. The weather sat image > is still shredded horizontally. I checked the website for WxtoImg and it > is blank. > > Does anyone know of any other software for decoding and displaying > weather satellite images? > > Any other suggestions on getting this fixed will be appreciated. > > Steve AI9IN > > On 2018-06-28 19:17, Mvivona wrote: > > > The reason I asked if it was the laptop is that I had a similar issue on > my laptop. I had it all running fine with the connection from the > microphone jack out of my radio then all of a sudden one day it was > breaking images. I came to find out that somehow the input got switched to > the microphone and it was picking up the sound from the speaker through the > microphone. > > A couple of other things that I would look at would be making sure my > bandwith is set to Wide FM @ 30khz and any noise filters are off. > > I'm sure you will trip across some little item and I have that Aha > moment. > > > > Michael Vivona > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this > > laptop for a couple of years. > > > >> On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > >> > >> Is this on a laptop? > >> > >> Michael Vivona > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > >> > >> To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR > >> with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked > >> successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to > >> connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > >> > >> But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I > >> think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is > >> working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get > >> viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the > >> shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in > >> the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > >> > >> It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not > >> sure what to try next. > >> > >> All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > >> > >> Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From af5cc2 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 20:03:01 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 15:03:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips Message-ID: I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times I will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for satellite passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and the XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband mobile whip antenna? 73 John AF5CC From peter at magicbug.co.uk Fri Jun 29 20:29:05 2018 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 21:29:05 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wxtrack is for tracking satellites. You could record the pass and use SatSignal or Google APT Decoder and see what other apps are available. On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 20:59 Mark L. Hammond, wrote: > Hi Steve, > > How about WXtrack? > > http://www.satsignal.eu/software/wxtrack.htm > > 73, > > Mark N8MH > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:55 AM, wrote: > > > Well, I reloaded SDR# and VB audio virtual cable. The weather sat image > > is still shredded horizontally. I checked the website for WxtoImg and it > > is blank. > > > > Does anyone know of any other software for decoding and displaying > > weather satellite images? > > > > Any other suggestions on getting this fixed will be appreciated. > > > > Steve AI9IN > > > > On 2018-06-28 19:17, Mvivona wrote: > > > > > The reason I asked if it was the laptop is that I had a similar issue > on > > my laptop. I had it all running fine with the connection from the > > microphone jack out of my radio then all of a sudden one day it was > > breaking images. I came to find out that somehow the input got switched > to > > the microphone and it was picking up the sound from the speaker through > the > > microphone. > > > A couple of other things that I would look at would be making sure my > > bandwith is set to Wide FM @ 30khz and any noise filters are off. > > > I'm sure you will trip across some little item and I have that Aha > > moment. > > > > > > Michael Vivona > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > > > Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this > > > laptop for a couple of years. > > > > > >> On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > > >> > > >> Is this on a laptop? > > >> > > >> Michael Vivona > > >> Sent from my iPad > > >> > > >> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > >> > > >> To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an > RTL-SDR > > >> with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked > > >> successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable > to > > >> connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > > >> > > >> But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I > > >> think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is > > >> working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get > > >> viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through > the > > >> shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in > > >> the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > > >> > > >> It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm > not > > >> sure what to try next. > > >> > > >> All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > >> > > >> Steve AI9IN > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From matthew at mrstevens.net Fri Jun 29 22:15:33 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:15:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EL84 next weekend, sats and 6m Message-ID: <15CA22F0-D17D-4096-AC78-CDF56FE887A8@mrstevens.net> One week from today, Robert KE4AL, Rich N4ESS, and myself, NJ4Y will be on Garden Key, EL84np in the Dry Tortugas. Robert and I will be active on all amateur satellites, while Rich will be operating HF CW for the grid chase. I will also be on 6m FT8, SBB and CW for as long as my batteries hold up. We will be arriving on the island mid-day on Friday July 6, staying all day Saturday, and then leaving Sunday morning July 8. We will be using the callsign K4R, and all logs will be uploaded to LOTW after the trip. Paper cards will be available on request via NJ4Y. The K4R QRZ page is up to date with our info, as well as k4r2018.com. We will also be able to tweet via a satellite messenger from the island, to our public twitter account at twitter.com/k4r_EL84. Our goal is to work anyone within ~7500km who needs EL84 on satellites. Check out the pass listing link at the above web pages and let us know if you have a special sked request from the outer reaches of our range, especially in EU and South America! 73, and hope to hear you in the air! - Matthew nj4y Sent from my iPhone From devin at thecabal.org Fri Jun 29 22:26:20 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:26:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite memory file for TH-D72a In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, the Dropbox link was definitely good stuff. -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email: devin at thecabal.org web: Devin on Earth cell: +1 425.239.2575 From: Charles Reiche Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 6:52 AM To: Devin L. Ganger Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite memory file for TH-D72a Here is briefly how I do it, Recieve on the A band Transmit on the B band Store the downlink frequencies with a name like AO-91 A Store the uplink like AO-91 B In the Memory mode, I transfer the frequency to VFO mode with F (press the Function key)- VFO (press VFO key) on the 70cm frew so that I can adjust for doppler. Patrick WD9EWK posted some info here: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/configuring-my-th-d72a-for-satellites.580191/ " I have some files, including an MC4 file with a copy of a configuration from my TH-D72A, along with some other information on using this radio on satellites (voice and packet). You can go to http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ and look in the TH-D72A folder for those files. " Charles Reiche On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:44 PM, Devin L. Ganger > wrote: Greetings, Does anyone have (or know where one is available on the web) an working importable memory file for FM satellites for a TH-D72a, using either the Kenwood program or CHIRP? I've been trying to put one together on my own and I'm finding conflicting sources of information on various satellites. Thanks in advance, -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email: devin at thecabal.org> web: Devin on Earth cell: +1 425.239.2575 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rjlawn at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 22:31:27 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:31:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 5400B Issues Message-ID: I thought I had found the problem with my old 5400 EL rotor when I discovered shorted wires at the terminal due to those awful old screw type terminals. Unfortunately after installing it the summer QTH I found that EL rotation worked only in one direction. I could use some help trouble shooting this as it could be in the control box or at the rotor and I have no manual with me. It could be that I'm off the air this summer in terms of satellite operation. 73 Rick, W2JAZ From joevk5ei at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 23:01:55 2018 From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 08:31:55 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Perhaps you need to do a calibration ? http://leshamilton.co.uk/wxtoimg.htm JP On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 1:25 AM, wrote: > Well, I reloaded SDR# and VB audio virtual cable. The weather sat image > is still shredded horizontally. I checked the website for WxtoImg and it > is blank. > > Does anyone know of any other software for decoding and displaying > weather satellite images? > > Any other suggestions on getting this fixed will be appreciated. > > Steve AI9IN > > On 2018-06-28 19:17, Mvivona wrote: > > > The reason I asked if it was the laptop is that I had a similar issue on > my laptop. I had it all running fine with the connection from the > microphone jack out of my radio then all of a sudden one day it was > breaking images. I came to find out that somehow the input got switched to > the microphone and it was picking up the sound from the speaker through the > microphone. > > A couple of other things that I would look at would be making sure my > bandwith is set to Wide FM @ 30khz and any noise filters are off. > > I'm sure you will trip across some little item and I have that Aha > moment. > > > > Michael Vivona > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images on this > > laptop for a couple of years. > > > >> On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > >> > >> Is this on a laptop? > >> > >> Michael Vivona > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > >> > >> To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using an RTL-SDR > >> with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has worked > >> successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual audio cable to > >> connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > >> > >> But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't working. I > >> think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, SDR# is > >> working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer get > >> viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been through the > >> shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as described in > >> the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > >> > >> It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix it, I'm not > >> sure what to try next. > >> > >> All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > >> > >> Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From rjlawn at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 23:24:19 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 19:24:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 5400B Problems Message-ID: Thanks so much to everyone for the links, manuals and info. I'm going to look at it again with fresh eyes tomorrow on the bench with a short piece of cable. Visual inspection of the inside of the control box doesn't show anything suspicious. I'll report back tomorrow if I can get this old dog going again. 73, Rick, W2JAZ From k6fw1 at verizon.net Sat Jun 30 00:25:21 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:25:21 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal May-June Issue Problem In-Reply-To: References: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> <13FAE2AE-AC03-4E85-9303-DBAC97D5763C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Mine was fine. Sent from my IPad > On Jun 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > > Mine was not fine... :-) > > - Matthew nj4y > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Peter J. McClosky > wrote: >> Mine was fine. >> ----- >> Peter J. McClosky, N7IY >> Eugene, Oregon >> pmcclosky at earthlink.net >> n7iy at arrl.net >> http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ >> >>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Scott wrote: >>> >>> Mine was the same & Martha is also very kindly sending me a replacement >>> copy. >>> >>> -Scott, K4KDR >>> >>> >>> ====================== >>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Dino Papas wrote: >>>> >>>> Hopefully I?m the only one who received a defective copy of the latest >>>> Journal?when I get to page 8 the pages start again with the front cover >>>> thru page 8! It?s missing pages 9-24. I sent Martha a note asking for a >>>> replacement. >>>> >>>> Was just curious if I was the only one who got one of these printer errors. >>>> >>>> 73 - Dino KL0S >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri Jun 29 22:49:53 2018 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 15:49:53 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 5400B Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301d40ffb$7f9b5040$7ed1f0c0$@charter.net> Rick, see link: http://n3ujj.com/manuals/YAESU%20g5400b.pdf 73, ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:31 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 5400B Issues I thought I had found the problem with my old 5400 EL rotor when I discovered shorted wires at the terminal due to those awful old screw type terminals. Unfortunately after installing it the summer QTH I found that EL rotation worked only in one direction. I could use some help trouble shooting this as it could be in the control box or at the rotor and I have no manual with me. It could be that I'm off the air this summer in terms of satellite operation. 73 Rick, W2JAZ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From larry.howell.47 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 01:10:18 2018 From: larry.howell.47 at gmail.com (Larry Howell) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 21:10:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal May-June Issue Problem In-Reply-To: References: <065EF957-FC4B-4ACB-8160-186FF92A3F4B@cox.net> <13FAE2AE-AC03-4E85-9303-DBAC97D5763C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Mine arrived in the mail today and was fine except for the usual USPS mangling. Larry AC8YE On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Frank wrote: > Mine was fine. > > Sent from my IPad > > > On Jun 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Matthew Stevens > wrote: > > > > Mine was not fine... :-) > > > > - Matthew nj4y > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Peter J. McClosky > > wrote: > >> Mine was fine. > >> ----- > >> Peter J. McClosky, N7IY > >> Eugene, Oregon > >> pmcclosky at earthlink.net > >> n7iy at arrl.net > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ > >> > >>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Scott wrote: > >>> > >>> Mine was the same & Martha is also very kindly sending me a replacement > >>> copy. > >>> > >>> -Scott, K4KDR > >>> > >>> > >>> ====================== > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Dino Papas wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hopefully I?m the only one who received a defective copy of the latest > >>>> Journal?when I get to page 8 the pages start again with the front > cover > >>>> thru page 8! It?s missing pages 9-24. I sent Martha a note asking > for a > >>>> replacement. > >>>> > >>>> Was just curious if I was the only one who got one of these printer > errors. > >>>> > >>>> 73 - Dino KL0S > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From sv1ljj at raag.org Fri Jun 29 20:40:11 2018 From: sv1ljj at raag.org (Apostolos Kefalas) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 23:40:11 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sat imaging In-Reply-To: References: <935fa82335c2e1448f03a5387f6dcd2e@etczone.com> <367283c8329c90696971fc9194883a7b@etczone.com> <326CDF68-A4F4-402D-9CD6-719633B642BE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1530304811.1836.3.camel@raag.org> Or you can record .wav of pass and upload it somewhere public and others try to decode it. On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 21:29 +0100, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote: > Wxtrack is for tracking satellites. > > You could record the pass and use SatSignal or Google APT Decoder and > see > what other apps are available. > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 20:59 Mark L. Hammond, > wrote: > > > Hi Steve, > > > > How about WXtrack? > > > > http://www.satsignal.eu/software/wxtrack.htm > > > > 73, > > > > Mark N8MH > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:55 AM, wrote: > > > > > Well, I reloaded SDR# and VB audio virtual cable. The weather sat > > > image > > > is still shredded horizontally. I checked the website for WxtoImg > > > and it > > > is blank. > > > > > > Does anyone know of any other software for decoding and > > > displaying > > > weather satellite images? > > > > > > Any other suggestions on getting this fixed will be appreciated. > > > > > > Steve AI9IN > > > > > > On 2018-06-28 19:17, Mvivona wrote: > > > > > > > The reason I asked if it was the laptop is that I had a similar > > > > issue > > > > on > > > my laptop. I had it all running fine with the connection from the > > > microphone jack out of my radio then all of a sudden one day it > > > was > > > breaking images. I came to find out that somehow the input got > > > switched > > > > to > > > the microphone and it was picking up the sound from the speaker > > > through > > > > the > > > microphone. > > > > A couple of other things that I would look at would be making > > > > sure my > > > > > > bandwith is set to Wide FM @ 30khz and any noise filters are off. > > > > I'm sure you will trip across some little item and I have that > > > > Aha > > > > > > moment. > > > > > > > > Michael Vivona > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:46 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, this is on a laptop. I have successfully received images > > > > on this > > > > laptop for a couple of years. > > > > > > > > > On 2018-06-28 07:42, Mvivona wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is this on a laptop? > > > > > > > > > > Michael Vivona > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:58 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > To get images from NOAA weather satellites I have been using > > > > > an > > > > RTL-SDR > > > > > with SDR# software and the WxtoImg decoding program. This has > > > > > worked > > > > > successfully for a couple of years. I use the VB virtual > > > > > audio cable > > > > to > > > > > connect SDR# to WxtoImg. > > > > > > > > > > But about a month ago I had to reinstall SDR# as it wasn't > > > > > working. I > > > > > think it may have been due to an update in Windows 10. So, > > > > > SDR# is > > > > > working fine, but since the reinstall of SDR# I can no longer > > > > > get > > > > > viewable images in WxtoImg. The pictures look they have been > > > > > through > > > > the > > > > > shredder. I tried the slant correction and the resync as > > > > > described in > > > > > the Help section, but it didn't fix anything. > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a sync problem, but if the resync doesn't fix > > > > > it, I'm > > > > not > > > > > sure what to try next. > > > > > > > > > > All reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > Steve AI9IN > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > > available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > > > Opinions > > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > > views of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsa > > > t-bb > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat- > > bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From david.quick at frontiernet.net Sat Jun 30 01:20:20 2018 From: david.quick at frontiernet.net (David Quick) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:20:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips Message-ID: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> I have made numerous AO-85, 91, 92, and SO-50 contacts from my truck, mostly while stationary due to the desire to log the contacts, with a 25 year old Kenwood TM-733a (~25 watts) and a dual-band antenna on the roof of the truck. Even a simple 2m quarter-wave works fine and offers a decent match on 435 MHz. The feature that helps the most is the radio's full duplex capability. When I hear my own voice on the downlink frequency I know I'm hitting the bird. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Geiger Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:03 PM To: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times I will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for satellite passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and the XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband mobile whip antenna? 73 John AF5CC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From andrewbnortham at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 01:50:33 2018 From: andrewbnortham at gmail.com (Andrew Northam) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 21:50:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] WMPLOTA 7/2 EN74 EN75 EN84 EN85 Rove Message-ID: Good Evening Everyone, Just under 2 days to this weekends 24 hour grid sale, below is the weekly flyer for this weekends WMPLOTA2 Rove to EN74, EN75, EN84 and EN85! The excessive heat warning in Michigan ends at 0000z on 7/2, right at the start of WMPLOTA2. 7/2/18 Objects AOS (U) LOS Period 1. EN74 WM1432 Cadillac XW-2D 00:01 00:09 XW-2F 00:05 00:13 SO-50 00:12 00:25 2. EN74 WM2014 Houghton Lake SO-50 01:54 02:03 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-92 02:03 02:13 AO-73 02:32 02:38 (*Low Pass Attempt) Falconsat-3 02:43 02:53 FO-29 02:45 02:55 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-85 02:59 03:06 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-92 03:37 03:46 3. EN74 WM5159 West Branch XW-2B 11:57 12:07 AO-07 12:06 12:22 4. EN84 WM5376 Tawas XW-2B 13:33 13:39 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-07 14:01 14:04 (*Low Pass Attempt) XW-2A 14:13 14:22 AO-73 14:15 14:26 SO-50 14:27 14:38 AO-92 15:05 15:14 5. EN85 WM2358 Alpena AO-92 16:39 16:47 AO-91 17:16 17:30 6. EN75 WM1542 Gaylord AO-91 18:52 19:06 AO-07 19:19 19:39 7. EN75 WM2417 Petosky XW-2C 21:49 21:58 XW-2D 22:12 22:22 XW-2F 22:15 22:25 AO-85 22:15 22:28 8. EN75 WM2100 Cheboygan XW-2C 23:22 23:32 AO-73 23:35 23:45 XW-2D 23:47 23:56 XW-2F 23:50 23:59 AO-85 23:57 00:08 7/3/18 EN75 Holiday Style Maybe Wish me luck on my first real rove, all stops are in a new VUCC circle, please work me if there is room. Manual tuning on linear birds, please be patient :) Follow me on twitter @andrewbnortham or http://twitter.com/andrewbnortham for up to the minute pass information, good luck and happy shopping! --Andrew/KE8FZT andrewbnortham at gmail.com http://twitter.com/andrewbnortham From py4zbz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 30 12:00:00 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] JT4G from DSLWP-B decoded ! References: <1390310348.677235.1530360000898.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1390310348.677235.1530360000898@mail.yahoo.com> Please see here: <> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 14:46:44 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 18:46:44 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] JT4G from DSLWP-B decoded ! In-Reply-To: <1390310348.677235.1530360000898@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1390310348.677235.1530360000898.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1390310348.677235.1530360000898@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <506B41B3-888B-4AC9-98A5-DEB536AF6392@gmail.com> Roland, Congratulations. I also have been trying again last night without success, all Ok in the station, software etc... just too much loss in the feeder system and no enough antenna gain. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Please see here: > << http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/dslwp.htm#d >> > 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 15:43:26 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 10:43:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips In-Reply-To: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> References: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Hi Dave, That is great to know. Sounds like it would work. I wonder if a 1/4 wave antenna might be better than a 5/8 wave as it might have some higher lobes as well and cover more of the pass. Does anyone know about this? 73 John AF5CC On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:20 PM, David Quick wrote: > I have made numerous AO-85, 91, 92, and SO-50 contacts from my truck, > mostly > while stationary due to the desire to log the contacts, with a 25 year old > Kenwood TM-733a (~25 watts) and a dual-band antenna on the roof of the > truck. Even a simple 2m quarter-wave works fine and offers a decent match > on > 435 MHz. > > The feature that helps the most is the radio's full duplex capability. When > I hear my own voice on the downlink frequency I know I'm hitting the bird. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John > Geiger > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:03 PM > To: AMSAT > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips > > I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times I > will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other > times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for satellite > passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and the > XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband > mobile whip antenna? > > 73 John AF5CC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From paulopv8dx at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 15:55:55 2018 From: paulopv8dx at gmail.com (Paulo PV8DX) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 11:55:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RES: JT4G from DSLWP-B decoded ! In-Reply-To: <506B41B3-888B-4AC9-98A5-DEB536AF6392@gmail.com> References: <1390310348.677235.1530360000898.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1390310348.677235.1530360000898@mail.yahoo.com> <506B41B3-888B-4AC9-98A5-DEB536AF6392@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01d4108a$d7b176d0$87146470$@gmail.com> Roland, Excellent performance Congratulations The antenna is show 73 de Paulo PV8DX > On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Please see here: > << http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/dslwp.htm#d >> > 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From airrj1 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 16:42:09 2018 From: airrj1 at gmail.com (Robert Bragg) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 12:42:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Would you want higher lobes? It seems like there is more db loss closer to the horizon and much less as you get overhead. That was my first thought, but it is just a guess, I am interested to hear what people with more education and experience have to say. Interesting topic thanks for bringing it up John. R.J. WY7AA On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 11:43 AM, John Geiger wrote: > Hi Dave, > > That is great to know. Sounds like it would work. I wonder if a 1/4 wave > antenna might be better than a 5/8 wave as it might have some higher lobes > as well and cover more of the pass. Does anyone know about this? > > 73 John AF5CC > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:20 PM, David Quick > wrote: > > > I have made numerous AO-85, 91, 92, and SO-50 contacts from my truck, > > mostly > > while stationary due to the desire to log the contacts, with a 25 year > old > > Kenwood TM-733a (~25 watts) and a dual-band antenna on the roof of the > > truck. Even a simple 2m quarter-wave works fine and offers a decent match > > on > > 435 MHz. > > > > The feature that helps the most is the radio's full duplex capability. > When > > I hear my own voice on the downlink frequency I know I'm hitting the > bird. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John > > Geiger > > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:03 PM > > To: AMSAT > > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips > > > > I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times I > > will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other > > times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for satellite > > passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and > the > > XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband > > mobile whip antenna? > > > > 73 John AF5CC > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From DougPhelps at protonmail.com Sat Jun 30 16:05:38 2018 From: DougPhelps at protonmail.com (Doug Phelps) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 12:05:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips In-Reply-To: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> References: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I have a couple TM 733 A's. They are full duplex and I have also made contact with them in the vehicle on a dual band antenna. They're still around sometimes on eBay and I think is one of the best radios that Kenwood ever made. the Kenwood th 7 9 handheld portable 5 watt is also full duplex. In fact you can turn it into a repeater cross band repeater and hanging from a tree and have a real nice portable repeater system. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Jun 29, 2018, 8:20 PM, David Quick wrote: > I have made numerous AO-85, 91, 92, and SO-50 contacts from my truck, mostly > while stationary due to the desire to log the contacts, with a 25 year old > Kenwood TM-733a (~25 watts) and a dual-band antenna on the roof of the > truck. Even a simple 2m quarter-wave works fine and offers a decent match on > 435 MHz. > > The feature that helps the most is the radio's full duplex capability. When > I hear my own voice on the downlink frequency I know I'm hitting the bird. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Geiger > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:03 PM > To: AMSAT > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips > > I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times I > will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other > times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for satellite > passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and the > XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband > mobile whip antenna? > > 73 John AF5CC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: [http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb](http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: [http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb](http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kball106 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 16:45:44 2018 From: kball106 at gmail.com (Keith Ballinger) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:45:44 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20180630164544.5685331.13150.18232@gmail.com> When Doug Wheelock KB5BOC was on the ISS, I tried many times to work him when using a 5/8 whip on the car but with no success. I then changed to a 1/4-wave whip and worked him first call. I attributed this to the fact that with a 5/8 the major lobe is towards the horizon whereas a 1/4-wave has a lobe tilted further upwards. Regards, Keith G0RQQ Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone?on?the O2?network. ? Original Message ? From: John Geiger Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2018 16:44 To: David Quick Cc: AMSAT Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips Hi Dave, That is great to know. Sounds like it would work. I wonder if a 1/4 wave antenna might be better than a 5/8 wave as it might have some higher lobes as well and cover more of the pass. Does anyone know about this? 73 John AF5CC On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:20 PM, David Quick wrote: > I have made numerous AO-85, 91, 92, and SO-50 contacts from my truck, > mostly > while stationary due to the desire to log the contacts, with a 25 year old > Kenwood TM-733a (~25 watts) and a dual-band antenna on the roof of the > truck. Even a simple 2m quarter-wave works fine and offers a decent match > on > 435 MHz. > > The feature that helps the most is the radio's full duplex capability. When > I hear my own voice on the downlink frequency I know I'm hitting the bird. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John > Geiger > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:03 PM > To: AMSAT > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips > > I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times I > will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other > times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for satellite > passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and the > XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband > mobile whip antenna? > > 73 John AF5CC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Jun 30 17:12:26 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 13:12:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d41010$83717900$8a546b00$@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Darn right. When a LEO satellite is near the horizon, it is 1500 miles or more away. When it is above 45 degrees it is maybe half as close adn that is 6 dB dfference. When it is overhead it is 10 dB closer. See: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html bob On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Robert Bragg wrote: > Would you want higher lobes? It seems like there is more db loss closer to > the horizon and much less as you get overhead. That was my first thought, > but it is just a guess, I am interested to hear what people with more > education and experience have to say. Interesting topic thanks for > bringing it up John. > > R.J. WY7AA > > On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 11:43 AM, John Geiger wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > > > That is great to know. Sounds like it would work. I wonder if a 1/4 > wave > > antenna might be better than a 5/8 wave as it might have some higher > lobes > > as well and cover more of the pass. Does anyone know about this? > > > > 73 John AF5CC > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:20 PM, David Quick < > david.quick at frontiernet.net> > > wrote: > > > > > I have made numerous AO-85, 91, 92, and SO-50 contacts from my truck, > > > mostly > > > while stationary due to the desire to log the contacts, with a 25 year > > old > > > Kenwood TM-733a (~25 watts) and a dual-band antenna on the roof of the > > > truck. Even a simple 2m quarter-wave works fine and offers a decent > match > > > on > > > 435 MHz. > > > > > > The feature that helps the most is the radio's full duplex capability. > > When > > > I hear my own voice on the downlink frequency I know I'm hitting the > > bird. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John > > > Geiger > > > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:03 PM > > > To: AMSAT > > > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91, AO92 and XW-2 sats with mobile whips > > > > > > I am hoping to get into mobile satellite operations soon, and at times > I > > > will be able to operate portable with a dualband yagi antenna. . Other > > > times, though, I will be on family trips and unable to stop for > satellite > > > passes, so would have to operate while in motion. Are AO91, AO91, and > > the > > > XW-2 satellites able to be worked using a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave dualband > > > mobile whip antenna? > > > > > > 73 John AF5CC > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Sat Jun 30 18:10:51 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 14:10:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Problem getting SDR-RADIO RTLUSB to work Message-ID: <16451e3f773-c92-1bd7c@webjas-vac147.srv.aolmail.net> Hi all, ? I recently had a hard drive crash in my laptop and have been in the process of re-installing everything.? I thought I had re-installed SDR-RADIO V2 RTL-USB (I used the 20130209 version) for 64 bit correctly but when I go to run SDRConsole (V2) I get the following error message: ? SDRConsole.exe - Ordinal Not Found ? The ordinal 14056 could not be located in the dynamic link library C:\Program Files\SDR-RADIO-PRO.com\SDRConsole.exe. ? The program used to run just fine until I had to rebuild everything.? Does anyone know what the fix might be?? I am running Windows 10 Pro with an Intel i5-4210U CPU 1,70GHz 2.40GHz, 64 bit, with 8GB of RAM installed.? I am wondering if I am missing something that didn't get installed when the new Windows was installed on the laptop.?? ? I was able to get HDSDR and SDRSharp to install and both work just fine. ? Thanks for the help. ? 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 18:39:46 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 14:39:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Space Comms is for beginners Message-ID: https://youtu.be/1CkRuEs0eUg Sometimes people I contact on satellites for the first time are very excited to contact me. These are people that have been watching my videos for a while, often new hams and/or new satellite operators, who hoped they would contact me one day, and then they do. They often tweet their excitement or express it on air. This video documents a couple of times that happened recently with Matt, VO1WEB, and Trevor, KD9IXX. This is a celebration of new satellite ops and an explanation of the purpose of this channel and my intention to make more how to videos aimed at beginning satellite operators. Nifty Ham Radio Accessory HT stand: http://bit.ly/NiftyHTstand 2018-05-25 - 2335 UTC - SO-50 2018-05-12 - 2018 UTC - AO-85 <-- N6UA can be heard in the clip I used from this pass 2018-05-27 - 0140 UTC - SO-50 2018-06-02 - 2335 UTC - SO-50 73, John Brier KG4AKV From rjlawn at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 21:47:09 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:47:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5400B Followup to Problem Message-ID: Once again, thanks to everyone who sent me links, suggestions and manual copies. It actually was an easy fix. I brought everything in to the bench and opened up the EL rotor to find what appeared to be some very poor solder joints on the wire side of the terminal strip. WX I guess over about 25 years had done a number on these joints. I resoldered them and hooked up a short pigtail to the rotor and voila...full rotation up and down!! I've also looked carefully at the AZ rotor and using the same pigtail check it out and all is still well with it. TNX again for your help and I may now be able to work a few birds from my summer QTH in FN21. 73 Rick, W2JAZ From sehaque at tekterrain.com Sat Jun 30 23:03:42 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 23:03:42 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] inquiry about japanese BIRDS - are they still active on comms? 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