[amsat-bb] Yubileiny RS-30 CW beacon --> bit of a rant

Sat Jun 2 04:22:10 UTC 2018

Hi Scott,

A way to track RS-30 is http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm?satx=rs-30

I've copied RS-30 CW Beacon, sometimes is active, try when sun is over this
bird.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) <hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net>
wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> Yet another website with amateur satellite info. As a sat beginner you
> quickly find out that the amateur satellite world is a very disorganized
> place. I know it is an illusion that the perfect information source exists,
> but as messy as it is now.......... The same goes for software.
>
> Let's start with names: some use the AMSAT designators (OA-91), others use
> common names (Fox-1B), yet others use the NORAD number or the NSSDC ID. So
> you have to juggle with naming conventions between different websites and
> software/apps.
>
> Then websites: you would think that the AMSAT website has at least the
> minimum amount of information on past and present amateur satellites.
> First: what AMSAT website? There is AMSAT in the US, AMSAT-UK, AMSAT-EA,
> AMSAT-ON...... As the US is usually leading the way, let's go to the
> AMSAT-NA site. I am interested in Athenoxat-1 and skCube. Quick
> search.......nothing. Ok, to their status page which says: "This web page
> was created to give a single global reference point for all users in the
> Amateur Satellite Service to show the most up-to-date status of all
> satellites as actually reported in real time by users around the world." If
> so, why are there only a handful of birds listed? This will confuse the
> heck out of sat newbies.
>
> So you send me to the DK3WN site, which seems rather complete and
> up-to-date. (BTW, it usually scares me when one person creates such an
> extensive and well organized website on which many people rely. What if the
> good OM goes SK? The same goes for software, btw). Look up the status of
> Yublileiny RS-30? Active! If you dig a bit deeper you will find the last
> report from November 2012, so it is obvious that the bird is dead (or
> sleeping very deeply). But it is listed as active, which I believe and
> subsequently I might waste a lot of time tracking a bird that is not there.
>
> You are right, Scott, you gave me one way to answer my question and I
> thank you for that. The "bit of a rant" above is not directed at you, at
> all, but I hope it will help make the world a bit better, especially for
> sat newbies who read this: if you're confused and a bit
> frustrated........YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 06/01/2018 11:25 PM, Scott wrote:
>
>> >>> what other sats do have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in
>> morse code)?
>>
>> One way to answer that would be to look at the following page and search
>> for "CW".  Then, check to see if the status shows "ACTIVE".
>>
>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> -Scott,  K4KDR
>>
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Hans (BX2ABT) <hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net
>> <mailto:hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello Hugh and Jean-Pierre,
>>
>>     Thanks for pointing out SatNOGS to me. I'm new to sats and didn't
>>     realize that SatNOGS had this capability. I'll check it out.
>>
>>     So it seems RS-30 is dead. I checked the SatNOGS recordings, but I
>>     couldn't detect any CW. A pity, 'cause back in 2009 it was one of
>>     the first sat signals I received on my HT with a simple antenna.
>>
>>     I asked this question before on this list, but what other sats do
>>     have reliable and reasonably strong beacons (in morse code)? Any
>>     suggestions are welcome. Cheers.
>>
>>     Hans
>>
>>     BX2ABT
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 06/01/2018 10:10 PM, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote:
>>
>>           Hi, Hans,
>>
>>           The last record of Yubileiny-1 RS-30 CW telemetry I done was
>>         on november 12th 2012. It died sometime in november 2012 and
>>         the CW beacon was on 435.315 MHz and was pure CW A1. 435.215
>>         MHz was used by the digital telemetry downlink (with the
>>         russian Doka-B ground stations). But anyway, I listen from
>>         time to time to the frequencies of the missing birds, just in
>>         case... My russian favorite was Mozhyets-4 RS-22.  :-) and my
>>         favorite chinese Xiwang-1 (Hope-1, HO-68)my favorite, which is
>>         still possible to hear from time to time when solar panels are
>>         under the sun (like AO-7).
>>
>>           Hans, there are a lot of others satellites sending CW
>>         telemetry on 70 cm.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 01/06/2018 13:15, Hans (BX2ABT) wrote:
>>
>>             Hello all,
>>
>>             I'm trying out my 4 element 70cm LFA and (finally)
>>             received some decent signals from Athenoxat-1 (437.485
>>             MHz). I had some good passes for Yubileiny RS-30 in the
>>             last couple of days, but I didn't observe anything. So,
>>             questions:
>>
>>             1) is RS-30 dead or still alive?
>>
>>             2) if alive, on which frequency is the morse code beacon
>>             active 435.215 or 435.315?
>>
>>             3) what mode should I use then: FMN or pure CW.
>>
>>             I would like to know if anybody has observed RS-30
>>             recently. On the web I can't find any recent observations.
>>             Thank you.
>>
>>
>>             Hans
>>
>>             BX2ABT
>>
>>
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