[amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders

Sat Mar 17 15:52:55 UTC 2018

Don,
  Be careful about making suggestions about increasing activity on the
Linear SATs! You may get personally ATTACKED in direct e-mails like
I did. There are people out there that hate Gridders and feel the Linear
SATs are to be held aside so they can have them to themselves for having
chats with each other day after day.
  I won't reveal the gentleman's ID, but you can read excerpts of some of
the e-mails that came to me directly for merely suggesting something to
increase activity on his private Linear SATs. Or, save your blood pressure
and skip his comments below. (So much hate!)
  73,   Bob  K8BL

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Simply stated you are the problem with this hobby today. 

Go get in your car and prove the laws of propagation again and again 
from strips of dirt only people like you care about. Yeah that’s real modern  HAHAHAHA 

Talk to your same cronies over and over yelling a new grid at them. You call that 
fun ‘eh. Sats work, get over it, you don’t have to keep proving it. It simple to 
understand that. 

Once again I say we don’t need your kind on the linear sats. Stay on FM and do us 
all a favor. 

The mess I refer to is the operating practices of those on the FM birds. People calling 
over one another, not allowing someone to get a confirmation of their contact before yelling 
their call and grid out once again, and now I hear you have a jammer on 91 and 92. What 
frustration do you think is causing that ? 

I don’t care what other hams do. Each have their own preferences,.. What I don’t like is 
someone coming up with a great “idea” to get more activity on what is now an enjoyable 
aspect of the hobby that I enjoy. I have to put up with nonsense contests every weekend 
on HF but I can go to WARC bands to get away from it. Don’t be looking to crap up my 
linear sats and turn them into the mess that’s on the FM sats. Its disgraceful what goes 
on there. Honestly I don’t think it will come to that since people have to use more that 
a pair of $25  boufangs and an arrow to get on linear sats. 

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From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com>
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> 
Cc: R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs

Plain QSO's or grids? I might be able to do 40 contacts by years end. 

An award is a goal, goals are easy to quantify, and you can see progress as you are working towards them.

73, Don KB2YSI 

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 08:07 Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>How about an 88 on 88 or 40 on 4B award?
>73,
>Mike Diehl
>W8LID
>
>> On Mar 15, 2018, at 23:46, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> Paul,
>> Having "Linear SAT Activity Days" is a GREAT idea!
>> Maybe an AMSAT "Linear SAT 100" Award for 100 Q's
>> would be interesting. Perhaps, endorsable, too.
>> 73,    Bob  K8BL
>> ________________________________
>> From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
>> To: R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net>
>> Cc: Joe N3XLS <n3xls at yahoo.com>; Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
>>
>> I admit that the launches of AO-91 and 92 have reduced my linear
>> operating time. As much as I enjoy operating on the linear sats,
>> operating portable as I do, I'm not going to be able to operate every
>> pass. I have made fewer than two dozen linear sat QSOs this year.
>>
>> Perhaps some linear satellite operating days are in order where
>> everyone decides to work as many passes of the XWs as possible or
>> CAS-4B or UKube-1 or something. FO-29 and AO-7 do seem to draw a
>> decent amount of activity still.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, I've been roving the past couple weeks and operating
>>> from several uncommon Grids/Gridlines and usually find no one or only
>>> one on the Linear SATs. Does that make me want to drive to some odd
>>> place and set up to rarely make a QSO? People shouldn't worry abt
>>> being exactly zero-beat, if that puts them off. Just get close & we'll
>>> find you. If people keep avoiding them, eventually no one will bother
>>> using them, period. Maybe, the "Easy SATs" are so easy that folks don't
>>> bother with the others.
>>> 73,    Bob  K8BL  /4/5/9
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Joe N3XLS via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments
>>>

>>> Its not too many satellites,  not enough ops!
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> Date: 3/15/18  6:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] idle comments
>>> Hello from Seattle
>>>
>>> I read the bb almost thoroughly throughout the day.  A small common denominator is subtly appearing.  I read, "I was on the bird all alone",  or something like, "no one to talk to".  The unusual conclusion, we have too many satellites!  I never thought this ham would even think of it.  If I look at Satpc32 with "only" a dozen listed, in fast forward a bewildering barrage of circles floats across the screen.  I am not saying this is a bad thing, it just spreads us out and at times, there is, "no one to talk to".  I do testing like try different power levels, talk to myself til as close to AOS as I can get.  You know the drill.  From what I read there are more on the starting block.  I'd like to see more L band time,  maybe a bird with a S band DL a MEO, a HEO- I know, idle comments.  We have the five & dime coming at us, which sounds like a whole other world, I'm looking forward to it.  Then there is the massive off air time making all this stuff work.  Currently testing between two
>>>L  band antennas and between two different 70cm antennas.  At this time I have my Satpc32 talking fine with the radio but not with the rotor.  A com port issue which currently I can not figure out.  Assistance solicited.   On the ISS it would be fun to see one of the "hams"  up there have that "burning in the belly"  to yuck it up, get  WAS, VUCC, DXCC or whatever.  Again, just idle comments not a criticism of the ARISS system.  Sunny day in Seattle, xyl says yard work.
>>>
>>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>> Seattle
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