From jhill_81 at yahoo.com  Tue May  1 00:22:15 2018
From: jhill_81 at yahoo.com (Mr B r a d)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 00:22:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 question ,
 how to add 2m only digi's like psat   and dummy sat for 144.2 etc.
References: <2006015557.2562614.1525134135407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2006015557.2562614.1525134135407@mail.yahoo.com>

I have been trying to bounce packet off of pcsat ( and iss when service? returns )put need help with setting up the text setup files for pcsat32 and the kenwood ts-2000I can edit the doppler file to add the 2m downlink but the radio's 'sat mode' isn't liking split vfo with thesame band uplink on the right side of the radio..??this should come together better with the built in TNC of the radio etc...is anyone doing this now I could use some tips , or a URL to the set up please.
Also is there a simple way to add a dummy satellite? for 2m ssb calling frequency and/or the local beaconetc.. I would like to be able to click something and have the radio swing over to 144.2 or 144.293 and point at the beaconto check out the system with out changing software , getting it to track the moon might be nice also.when ever i run wsjt-x a complete cold reboot seems to be the only way to make satpc32 start talkingto the com port the ts2000 is on.much thanks , direct replies off? list would be better brad (at) valleymedia.org
ko6kL


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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue May  1 02:18:01 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:18:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 question ,
 how to add 2m only digi's like psat and dummy sat for 144.2 etc.
In-Reply-To: <2006015557.2562614.1525134135407@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2006015557.2562614.1525134135407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2006015557.2562614.1525134135407@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMcR2mZ0N=oBpADywNpeFKwKOwS2onFipuFzmbOTgOnPw@mail.gmail.com>

You have to use SatPC32ISS. "SatPC32ISS.Exe (in the following
SatPCISS)  is a special version of SatPC32 for radio amateur operation
via the ISS. The program provides "In-Band" frequency control with
several radios. While "normal" amateur satellites use different bands
for uplink and downlink both frequencies of the ISS are in the 2m
band.  The "normal" SatPC32 switches the radios into satellite mode to
allow full duplex operation (transmitting and receiving at the same
time). Therefore uplink and downlink  must be in different bands."

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:22 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> I have been trying to bounce packet off of pcsat ( and iss when service  returns )put need help with setting up the text setup files for pcsat32 and the kenwood ts-2000I can edit the doppler file to add the 2m downlink but the radio's 'sat mode' isn't liking split vfo with thesame band uplink on the right side of the radio..??this should come together better with the built in TNC of the radio etc...is anyone doing this now I could use some tips , or a URL to the set up please.
> Also is there a simple way to add a dummy satellite  for 2m ssb calling frequency and/or the local beaconetc.. I would like to be able to click something and have the radio swing over to 144.2 or 144.293 and point at the beaconto check out the system with out changing software , getting it to track the moon might be nice also.when ever i run wsjt-x a complete cold reboot seems to be the only way to make satpc32 start talkingto the com port the ts2000 is on.much thanks , direct replies off  list would be better brad (at) valleymedia.org
> ko6kL
>
>
>
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From radiomb at bellsouth.net  Tue May  1 03:14:48 2018
From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 03:14:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging satellites to LOTW
References: <1255584655.2595742.1525144488399.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1255584655.2595742.1525144488399@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hello,? I started making satellite contacts about a month ago. I need to down load?to LOTW (I know I should have done it a lot sooner). I use HRD to do my logging. If I?have FM in mode?and the correct up and down link frequencies is that all I need for downloading to LOTW or other requirements?Tnx 73 Mike K4MIA

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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue May  1 03:19:13 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 23:19:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Introducing the Satellite FAQ and How-To wiki
Message-ID: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://sats.wikidot.com/

The main content so far:

= What apps can I use to track satellites? =
*  http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
 * A table of Android/iOS mobile apps with supported/not supported
checkmarks for various features. I don't have iOS so I had to put
question marks on a lot of features for those apps.
* If you know the status of the features let me know off list, or I
can add you to the wiki so you can edit it yourself.

= How do you know when the ISS is transmitting SSTV? =
* http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-you-know-when-the-iss-is-transmitting-sstv
* Includes instructions on how to setup email notifications on the RSS
feed of ariss-sstv.blogspot.com website using blogtrottr so you can be
emailed when new events are announced.

= How do you add 2 meter only digipeaters to SatPC32 =
* http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-you-add-add-2-meter-only-digipeaters-to-satpc32
* I just added this based on an email from 2 hours ago

= How to create multiple profiles in GoSatWatch =
* http://sats.wikidot.com/gosatwatch:multiple-profiles
* You can create the equivalent of profiles in the GoSatWatch by
cloning an element set then selecting only those satellites of
interest.
* Brad WF7T created this tutorial

Brad, WF7T and I started this wiki.The purpose is to document answers
to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) across the various forums like
amsat-bb, the AMSAT-NA Facebook group, twitter, QRZ.com forums, etc.
How-Tos are also acceptable. The goal is not to be a comprehensive
source of amateur satellite information (especially not lists of all
the sats, as that info is on many other sources), just to supplement
what is already out there and provide a place to collect commonly
requested information. More information on the intention/philosophy of
the wiki can be found here:
http://sats.wikidot.com/about

If you want to add stuff or edit the wiki, please create an account on
wikidot and let me or Brad know your username/email address and we can
add you.

On the To-Do list [1] I have a goal to make a new page with a list of
full duplex HTs. I know a list of these HTs already is on the web but
I don't believe it's updated. I also know Patrick, WD9EWK has a lot of
detailed info on various Chinese radios. All of this could be
summarized and updated as new HTs come out. If you want to start it
"that would be great." ;-)

73, John Brier KG4AKV

1) http://sats.wikidot.com/talk:start

From kawfey at gmail.com  Tue May  1 03:37:41 2018
From: kawfey at gmail.com (Sterling Coffey)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2018 03:37:41 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Introducing the Satellite FAQ and How-To wiki
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACxCfFqo76YBExS1ccKMBni6R3Kf3nXVWwvynRqWyaz0Dd-hCA@mail.gmail.com>

NICE!

I created an account, http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/kawfey, I'd love to
contribute.

Thanks!
Sterling, N0SSC

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:21 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://sats.wikidot.com/
>
> The main content so far:
>
> = What apps can I use to track satellites? =
> *  http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>  * A table of Android/iOS mobile apps with supported/not supported
> checkmarks for various features. I don't have iOS so I had to put
> question marks on a lot of features for those apps.
> * If you know the status of the features let me know off list, or I
> can add you to the wiki so you can edit it yourself.
>
> = How do you know when the ISS is transmitting SSTV? =
> *
> http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-you-know-when-the-iss-is-transmitting-sstv
> * Includes instructions on how to setup email notifications on the RSS
> feed of ariss-sstv.blogspot.com website using blogtrottr so you can be
> emailed when new events are announced.
>
> = How do you add 2 meter only digipeaters to SatPC32 =
> *
> http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-you-add-add-2-meter-only-digipeaters-to-satpc32
> * I just added this based on an email from 2 hours ago
>
> = How to create multiple profiles in GoSatWatch =
> * http://sats.wikidot.com/gosatwatch:multiple-profiles
> * You can create the equivalent of profiles in the GoSatWatch by
> cloning an element set then selecting only those satellites of
> interest.
> * Brad WF7T created this tutorial
>
> Brad, WF7T and I started this wiki.The purpose is to document answers
> to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) across the various forums like
> amsat-bb, the AMSAT-NA Facebook group, twitter, QRZ.com forums, etc.
> How-Tos are also acceptable. The goal is not to be a comprehensive
> source of amateur satellite information (especially not lists of all
> the sats, as that info is on many other sources), just to supplement
> what is already out there and provide a place to collect commonly
> requested information. More information on the intention/philosophy of
> the wiki can be found here:
> http://sats.wikidot.com/about
>
> If you want to add stuff or edit the wiki, please create an account on
> wikidot and let me or Brad know your username/email address and we can
> add you.
>
> On the To-Do list [1] I have a goal to make a new page with a list of
> full duplex HTs. I know a list of these HTs already is on the web but
> I don't believe it's updated. I also know Patrick, WD9EWK has a lot of
> detailed info on various Chinese radios. All of this could be
> summarized and updated as new HTs come out. If you want to start it
> "that would be great." ;-)
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> 1) http://sats.wikidot.com/talk:start
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue May  1 03:55:22 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 23:55:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Introducing the Satellite FAQ and How-To wiki
In-Reply-To: <CACxCfFqo76YBExS1ccKMBni6R3Kf3nXVWwvynRqWyaz0Dd-hCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACxCfFqo76YBExS1ccKMBni6R3Kf3nXVWwvynRqWyaz0Dd-hCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKORJzapeW1sgp-ZhtJ5xiUzxBbn_AZGuq8ZsrPzsyKbtw@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome.

I just invited you to become a member. After you accept I will add you
as a moderator.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Sterling Coffey <kawfey at gmail.com> wrote:
> NICE!
>
> I created an account, http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/kawfey, I'd love to
> contribute.
>
> Thanks!
> Sterling, N0SSC
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:21 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/
>>
>> The main content so far:
>>
>> = What apps can I use to track satellites? =
>> *  http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>  * A table of Android/iOS mobile apps with supported/not supported
>> checkmarks for various features. I don't have iOS so I had to put
>> question marks on a lot of features for those apps.
>> * If you know the status of the features let me know off list, or I
>> can add you to the wiki so you can edit it yourself.
>>
>> = How do you know when the ISS is transmitting SSTV? =
>> *
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-you-know-when-the-iss-is-transmitting-sstv
>> * Includes instructions on how to setup email notifications on the RSS
>> feed of ariss-sstv.blogspot.com website using blogtrottr so you can be
>> emailed when new events are announced.
>>
>> = How do you add 2 meter only digipeaters to SatPC32 =
>> *
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-you-add-add-2-meter-only-digipeaters-to-satpc32
>> * I just added this based on an email from 2 hours ago
>>
>> = How to create multiple profiles in GoSatWatch =
>> * http://sats.wikidot.com/gosatwatch:multiple-profiles
>> * You can create the equivalent of profiles in the GoSatWatch by
>> cloning an element set then selecting only those satellites of
>> interest.
>> * Brad WF7T created this tutorial
>>
>> Brad, WF7T and I started this wiki.The purpose is to document answers
>> to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) across the various forums like
>> amsat-bb, the AMSAT-NA Facebook group, twitter, QRZ.com forums, etc.
>> How-Tos are also acceptable. The goal is not to be a comprehensive
>> source of amateur satellite information (especially not lists of all
>> the sats, as that info is on many other sources), just to supplement
>> what is already out there and provide a place to collect commonly
>> requested information. More information on the intention/philosophy of
>> the wiki can be found here:
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/about
>>
>> If you want to add stuff or edit the wiki, please create an account on
>> wikidot and let me or Brad know your username/email address and we can
>> add you.
>>
>> On the To-Do list [1] I have a goal to make a new page with a list of
>> full duplex HTs. I know a list of these HTs already is on the web but
>> I don't believe it's updated. I also know Patrick, WD9EWK has a lot of
>> detailed info on various Chinese radios. All of this could be
>> summarized and updated as new HTs come out. If you want to start it
>> "that would be great." ;-)
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> 1) http://sats.wikidot.com/talk:start
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com  Tue May  1 03:58:57 2018
From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:58:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging satellites to LOTW
In-Reply-To: <1255584655.2595742.1525144488399@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1255584655.2595742.1525144488399.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1255584655.2595742.1525144488399@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJJyj=bteiOBvP4McyMVijiUsHX+kkk+UZfHc5zkDpqkSDKZsg@mail.gmail.com>

The ADIF file must contain the PROP_MODE set to "SAT".  If it isn't there
it won't count as a satellite QSO and you will get no confirmations.
Also, SAT_NAME must be as TQSL has defined the satellite name or else it
won't upload.

Here is what our QSO looks like as I uploaded it to LOTW:

<Call:5>K4MIA
<QSO_Date:8>20180430
<Time_On:6>030900
<Band:4>70CM
<Mode:2>FM
<OPERATOR:4>NR0T
<Prop_Mode:3>SAT
<RST_Sent:2>59
<RST_Rcvd:2>59
<SAT_NAME:5>AO-92
<eor>

You may have more than that, depending on the software you use.
Send me what you have for a QSO and I will take a look at it.
Note that the number after the field name indicates how many characters are
in the data field.

So <Time_On:6>  means that you are sending six characters for time:  030900
If you had <Time_On:4> , then the time would be passed as 0309
Note that your callsign and location info are defined in TQSL and not in
the ADIF file.  I believe that <OPERATOR:4>NR0T is optional.

73
Rolf   NR0T
Grid EN34

From k7trkradio at charter.net  Tue May  1 03:30:44 2018
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:30:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging satellites to LOTW
In-Reply-To: <1255584655.2595742.1525144488399@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1255584655.2595742.1525144488399.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1255584655.2595742.1525144488399@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004001d3e0fc$ca6cba60$5f462f20$@charter.net>

Hi Mike, there is also a 'propagation' tab in the logbook, when you are entering an contact.. It has a drop down for 'satellite'

And the sat name needs to be entered as AO-92, for example, not ao92

And, you are UPLOADING to LoTW...you can use the tab at the top of the log screen to upload right after you work someone and make the entry

You can always go to your HRD logbook, click on an entry and fix any issues

GL, Ted
K7TRK

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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 8:15 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging satellites to LOTW

 Hello,  I started making satellite contacts about a month ago. I need to down load to LOTW (I know I should have done it a lot sooner). I use HRD to do my logging. If I have FM in mode and the correct up and down link frequencies is that all I need for downloading to LOTW or other requirements?Tnx 73 Mike K4MIA

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From aj9n at aol.com  Tue May  1 05:18:34 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 01:18:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-01 05:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <1631a2358b4-c87-24ba0@webjas-vac011.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-01 05:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



About Gagarin From The Space. Implementation Of The Session Of Radio-Love Communication With Participants Of "Artek" Change, near Black Sea, direct via RM6KD

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Anton Shkaplerov

Contact is a go for Tue 2018-04-24 11:05 UTC

?

Mill Springs Academy, Alpharetta, GA, direct via WA4MSA

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-03 15:47:30 UTC 25 deg



Students for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station, TX, direct via W5QZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-03 17:22:31 UTC 47 deg



Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, direct via WA4SXM/N4CFB

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-05-07 13:54:10 UTC 23 deg



******************************************************************************

International Space Station Astronauts are Calling CQ Students (corrected)

???????????? ??ARISS-US program education proposal deadline is April 30, 2018

?

March 15, 2018:? The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) program is seeking proposals from US schools, museums, science centers and community youth organizations (working individually or together) to host radio contacts with an orbiting crew member aboard the International Space Station (ISS) between January 1 and June 30, 2019.

?

Each year, ARISS provides tens of thousands of students with opportunities to learn about space technologies and communications through the exploration of Amateur Radio.? The program provides learning opportunities by connecting students to astronauts aboard the International Space Station (ISS) through a partnership between NASA, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, the American Radio Relay League, and other Amateur Radio organizations and worldwide space agencies. The program?s goal is to inspire students to pursue interests and careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) and Amateur Radio. A ham recently said, ?ARISS shows how Amateur Radio is the most unique hobby/service there is.?

?

Educators overwhelmingly report that student participation in the ARISS program stimulates interest in STEM subjects and in STEM careers. One educator wrote, ?It exceeded our expectations--it created a great interest in both amateur radio and in space exploration. Our kids are completely inspired!? Ninety-two percent of educators who have participated in the program have indicated that ARISS provided ideas for encouraging student exploration and participation. An educator even joined the ham ranks, saying, ?This chance for our school?s ARISS contact helped me see the great value of the ham world.? I just passed my Technician License this weekend and have already signed up to take a General class.?? ?


ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed, exciting education plan. Students can learn about satellite communications, wireless technology, science research conducted on the ISS, radio science, and any related STEM subject. Students learn to use Amateur Radio to talk directly to an astronaut and ask their STEM-related questions. ARISS will help educational organizations locate Amateur Radio groups who can assist with equipment for this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for students. 

The proposal deadline for 2019 contacts is April 30, 2018. Proposal webinars for guidance and getting questions answers will be offered March 29, 2018, at 7 p.m. EDT and April 16, 2018, at 4 p.m. EDT. Advance registration is necessary. To sign up, go to https://ariss-proposal-webinar-spring-2018.eventbrite.com

For more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and the proposal form, visit: http://www.ariss.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact-in-the-us.html

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 102


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-01 05:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1223. 
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1172. 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-04-27 03:30 UTC.


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

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Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From vimone at alice.it  Tue May  1 09:49:14 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 11:49:14 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Digital satellites with Kenwood TS-2000x and TNC
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAAIWcjVbZ5lCjDemtvSIpmYBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hello,
is there anybody using or had used the KenwoodTS-2000 to
work digital satellites @9600baud with an external TNC like a TNC2????
If yes please can suggest me how to do it?
Any help will be really appreciated.
Thanks

73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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From cmhobbs at cryptolab.net  Tue May  1 12:02:11 2018
From: cmhobbs at cryptolab.net (Christopher M. Hobbs)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 12:02:11 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Introducing the Satellite FAQ and How-To wiki
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20180501120211.6d9df1e0@moonglade>

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Hi.  Thanks for putting this together.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 23:19:13 -0400
John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://sats.wikidot.com/
> 
> The main content so far:
> 
> = What apps can I use to track satellites? =
> *  http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>

You may want to add gPredict.  It's great for us folks using GNU+Linux
(though I manually fetch keps).

I'd add it myself but I'd rather not have one more stray account
floating around the web.

73 DE KD5RYO

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http://manor.space/~cmhobbs
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue May  1 16:30:07 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 12:30:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Introducing the Satellite FAQ and How-To wiki
In-Reply-To: <20180501120211.6d9df1e0@moonglade>
References: <CALn0fKNZ+xNduVZ4xGnoCPeD8g1msN7qcOH8w6fg01_efYxahQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20180501120211.6d9df1e0@moonglade>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOKQUPtAW5Mutym8wssX3-merTCe27QoWG2s_X3CYFR1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Christopher M. Hobbs
<cmhobbs at cryptolab.net> wrote:
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> Hi.  Thanks for putting this together.

Sure thing.

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 23:19:13 -0400
> John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/
>>
>> The main content so far:
>>
>> = What apps can I use to track satellites? =
>> *  http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>
>
> You may want to add gPredict.  It's great for us folks using GNU+Linux
> (though I manually fetch keps).

I added it, as well as MacDoppler which wasn't on the list yet.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Tue May  1 16:43:02 2018
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 11:43:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for April 2018
Message-ID: <AE2AB44B268A48F696697121E52AB604@Ron8300PC>

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite
Awards issued by the ARRL for the period April 1, 2018
through May 1, 2018.
Congratulations to all those who made the list this month!

There were two calls which decreased by one this month.
I have reported these to ARRL. These are not listed below.
ARRL corrected some similar errors last month.

CALL    1 Apr  1 May 2018
        
N8RO    1030   1040
NP4JV    699    730
N4UFO    724    725
W5RKN    575    606
NJ4Y     549    580
WD9EWK   425    430
N0JE     248    400
NS3L     275    300
VE7CEW   251    292
AA8CH    175    218
PT9BM    172    176
K5IX     125    175
N7AGF    126    152
KE8FZT   100    151
AL6D     112    150
NA2AA    127    128
N1PEB    New    125
G0ABI    122    124
PU8RFL   101    120
NX2X     New    119
AE5B     New    100


If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list 
at <mycall>@<mycall>.com
and I'll revise the announcement.

This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf
listings for April 1, 2018. and May 1, 2018. It's a visual
comparison so omissions are possible.  Apologies if your
call was not mentioned.  Thanks to all those who are
roving to grids that are rarely on the birds.  They are
doing most of the work!

73,
Ron W5RKN

From radiomb at bellsouth.net  Tue May  1 17:42:31 2018
From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 17:42:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Entering downlink frequency  in HRD?
References: <1558266698.2800458.1525196551074.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1558266698.2800458.1525196551074@mail.yahoo.com>

 ?? Thanks for the replies to my LOTW?question.?I entered all the fields in HRD that you guys said were need. But cannot find?how to inter a receive or down load frequency. Found how to display it on the log page but not enter it. Sorry for the logging questions on AMSAT BB. But, I can not find it in any HRD manual or on the internet.? Sounds like I might use TQSL in the future. Thanks again everyone.73 Mike
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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Tue May  1 19:14:29 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 15:14:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Mill Springs Academy,
	Alpharetta, GA
Message-ID: <55EFC96445DC4EA3A36FFA51B54B5DE4@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Mill Springs Academy, Alpharetta, GA on 03 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:47 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and WA4MSA. The contact should be audible over the U.S. state of Georgia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Mill Springs Academy is a private school located in Milton, GA, a northern suburb of Atlanta, with a little over 300 students in grades 1 to 12. We serve students with specific learning challenges such as ADD/ADHD, processing speed issues, certain aspects of autism, and dyslexia.  None the less, most MSA graduates go on to four year colleges.  The strength of MSA is helping students to compensate for their learning challenges by using technology and self-advocacy.  

      

MSA has an active Amateur Radio Club and has over 30 students earn at least a Technician class Amateur Radio license.  Two of the students who will be asking questions are hams:  Josh Drew, KM4MVK, and William Goodhew, KN4ALD.  Part of our program has been a relationship with some students in England who are mentored by John Hislop G7OHO.  Three of the questions on our list, numbers 4, 8, and 13, came to us from some elementary school age students in John Hislop's school.  Those questions will be introduced as "This question was submitted by  (student name) from Broadstairs, England."

      

The MSA Amateur Radio program is mentored by our great friends at the North Fulton Amateur Radio League (www.nfarl.org).  They are the ones who are serving as the technical mentors for this ARISS contact as well as the ancillary activities we have going on in conjunction with this contact. 

      

Students and teachers from other schools in the metro Atlanta area have been invited to join us for this ARISS event and its related activities.  Our gym should be filled to the limit with enthralled attendees.  

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. How many times have you been around the earth?

2. How long has the Space Station been in orbit?

3. Did you get to see the Tesla Roadster when it was flung into space?

4. Do you hear the sound of space debris or micro-meteorites hitting outside 

   the ISS?

5. How long does it take to get to the Space Station and back?

6. Have you done any experiments that were part of the Toys in Space project?

7. Are you growing plants in space?

8. What is the most interesting experiment that you are involved in at the 

   moment?

9. How old were you when you got your call sign?

10. If you could have any flavor or any kind of ice cream treat, what would 

    it be and would it have to come in a squeeze pouch?

11. What is the weirdest thing that has happened to you in space?

12. Do you sleep with straps around your body?

13. What was the most difficult part of your training as an astronaut?

14. Have you met any of the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo astronauts?

15. What was your motivation to go to be an astronaut?

16. How do you scrub CO2 in space?

17. What's your advice to people dreaming of becoming involved in NASA space 

    programs?

18. Do the NASA dieticians plan a diet for you that has more or fewer 

    calories than what you would consume on earth?

19. Did you watch the Super Bowl?

20. What has been your favorite pastime on the ISS?  Why is it so special to 

    you?

21. Are there different climate conditions such as temperature and humidity 

    in different rooms on the ISS?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

 1.  Students for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station,   

     TX, direct via W5QZ

     The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

     The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

     Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-03 17:22 UTC

 

 2.  Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, direct via WA4SXM/N4CFB

     The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

     The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

     Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-05-07 13:54 UTC

 

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Tue May  1 19:33:16 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 15:33:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Uncoming ARISS contact with Students for the Exploration
	& Development of Space, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <FF922A2414254D20A455A098D8C275FC@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Students for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station, TX on 03 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 17:22 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and W5QZ. The contact should be audible over the U.S. state of Texas and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Texas A&M University opened its doors in 1876 as the state's first public institution of higher learning. Today, we stand as a research-intensive flagship university dedicated to sending Aggie leaders out into the world prepared to take on the challenges of tomorrow. Located in the heart of the Houston-Dallas-Austin triangle, Texas A&M's main campus in College Station is home to more than 62,500 students.

 

In our ARISS Program, we mentored students across the state of Texas. Participation ranged from 350 student Allen Academy in Bryan to 15,000 student districts like Harlandale ISD in San Antonio and Rockwall ISD near Dallas. Student diversity varied with location - some schools reported 89% economically disadvantaged, some 97% Hispanic, some 33% At-Risk and others 22% Black.

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1.  What is your favorite meal to eat on the ISS?

2.  Does being in space change how you dream?

3.  What do you do on your way back down to Earth?

4.  Are you able to talk to your family from space?

5.  How old were you when you decided to pursue your dream of being an 

    Astronaut?

6.  What happens if you sneeze in your spacesuit during a space walk?

7.  What happens to your tears if you cry in space?

8.  Does it ever scare you that you might collide with an old satellite or 

    other large object?

9.  What things have you seen floating in space?

10. How does your body feel when you first get into zero gravity?

11. What happens when someone gets sick in space other than tiny problems?

12. Do you still have the R2 Droid on the ISS and how does it help?

13. What is the most unusual man-made thing on Earth you have seen from 

    space?

14. What is something you or most Astronauts do in their free time?

15. What do you do if water drops float away and you can?t catch them?

16. How is your oxygen supply replenished?

17. When you return to Earth, do you feel any difference in your body?

18. What is the funniest moment you had in space?

19. If given the option, would you accept a mission to Mars?

20. What is your favorite experiment you have done in the ISS?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

  1. Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, direct via WA4SXM/N4CFB

      The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

      The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

      Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-05-07 13:54 UTC

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Tue May  1 20:58:43 2018
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 20:58:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Entering downlink frequency  in HRD?
In-Reply-To: <1558266698.2800458.1525196551074@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1558266698.2800458.1525196551074.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1558266698.2800458.1525196551074@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1944185909.2894946.1525208323868@mail.yahoo.com>

Mike (Call?),
Have you seen this info about LoTW QSOs on SATs?
73,? ?Bob? K8BL
satellite-QSOs ? Logbook of the World (LoTW) Help Pages

https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/satellite-qsos/



      From: radiomb <radiomb at bellsouth.net>
 To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 1:43 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Entering downlink frequency in HRD?
   
 ?? Thanks for the replies to my LOTW?question.?I entered all the fields in HRD that you guys said were need. But cannot find?how to inter a receive or down load frequency. Found how to display it on the log page but not enter it. Sorry for the logging questions on AMSAT BB. But, I can not find it in any HRD manual or on the internet.? Sounds like I might use TQSL in the future. Thanks again everyone.73 Mike
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From nj1h at comcast.net  Tue May  1 21:09:40 2018
From: nj1h at comcast.net (Bill Bordy, NJ1H )
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 17:09:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Today's Win 10 Update VAC problem resolved.
Message-ID: <1c10d1f9-1914-691b-b6ff-ea3ee908b610@comcast.net>

Just resolved a problem with today's Win 10 update and virtual audio
cables. Your Privacy setting for apps to access microphone must be on.
Required even if not using microphone!

73,
Bill
NJ1H

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Wed May  2 02:06:35 2018
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 02:06:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-pedition Preliminary Schedule for Sunday May 6th
References: <664999069.3045820.1525226795243.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <664999069.3045820.1525226795243@mail.yahoo.com>

Doug Tabor, N6UA and I will be leaving on our FO-pedition on Saturday morning, May 5th.? this will be mainly a driving day with possible stops to activate some of the norther grids along the way.? Follow Doug @dtabor and me @ve3hls on Twitter for updates.
The fun starts on Sunday morning when we leave Matagami QC, enter FO and drive to Radisson QC on the James Bay Road.? It should look something like this:
FN19/FO10 - 1100 to 1230 UTC
FO10/FO11 - 1400 to 1530 UTC
FO11/FO12 - 1730 to 1900 UTC
FO12/FO13 - 2100 to 2230 UTC
Lots of overlapping of grids to make sure you get them all.? Plus, we hope to activate these spots again as we travel south again.
Most of the passes start while other good passes are still in progress.? Doug and I will be operating simultaneously to cover overlapping passes, so if you don't hear us on one satellite you will very likely find us on another.? We will each be using our own calls.
The weather for Day 1 calls for a mix of rain and snow and a high of 3 deg C.? Perfect roving weather!
73,
Ken? VE3HLSDoug? N6UA

From fredy at fredy.gr  Wed May  2 07:51:31 2018
From: fredy at fredy.gr (Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 10:51:31 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Zhou Enlai (HA 1) downlink active
In-Reply-To: <cd759fcb-3be0-3622-a4f1-fac2c08da13d@xs4all.nl>
References: <cd759fcb-3be0-3622-a4f1-fac2c08da13d@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <17682677-58ec-26cd-e85f-92110051f93b@fredy.gr>

We are glad to confirm, with observations at SatNOGS, the drifted
frequency of the telemetry transmitter as it was reported from Nico PA0DLO.

>From our results, we have calculated that the transmission is around
437.644MHz. We have added a new transmitter for this frequency and we
are waiting the first results to confirm it.

More details can be found at
https://community.libre.space/t/43156-zhou-enlai-recent-activity

73,
fredy

On 04/29/2018 04:49 PM, Nico Janssen wrote:
> 
> The Chinese amateur satellite Zhou Enlai (initially know as Huai'An 1,
> HA 1) appears to be active on a downlink frequency near 437.650 MHz.
> Its coordinated downlink frequency for telemetry is 437.350 MHz and
> for voice 436.950 MHz. For details see:
> http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/
> http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/zhou_enlai.htm
> 
> This 2U cubesat is object 43156, 2018-008B. Let's see if they can activate
> its FM repeater and SSTV component.
> 
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
> 
> 
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From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Wed May  2 12:17:50 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 12:17:50 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good SAT program
In-Reply-To: <E6448785-A855-4E20-85F4-16C320A81A48@alice.it>
References: <E6448785-A855-4E20-85F4-16C320A81A48@alice.it>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8Mt_kAcp2nXAR_oM9LjxnT22DUh36v6+UBPyPe+fQG+-w@mail.gmail.com>

Have you tried GPredict? It is available for Linux, OSX, and Windows. I do
not know if it would satisfy your requirements, but it is free.

73, Don KB2YSI

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 03:21 Vincenzo Mone <vimone at alice.it> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I am looking for a good program like Orbitron or the old Satsked that
> gives me the possibility to keep under the eyes all the satellite and in
> the mean time has the possibility to track the satellites moving also the
> rotators and the radio.I was using SatPC interfaced with the rotators with
> the ERC-M kit and the Kenwood TS-2000x. It is a great program but has the
> problem that I do not have under my eyes all the satellites and have
> noticed that if I am visualising in one group and in another group there is
> a satellite rising I will not be advised.
> Orbitron is OK as I can have all the satellites under my eyes but I cannot
> or better I do not know how to interface it with the radio and the Yaesu
> G-5500 rotators via the ERC-M interface kit.
> Anybody can point me to the right way?
> Thanks
>
>
> 73's de Enzo IK8OZV
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> WinBollet BetaTester
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>
>
>
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From royldean at gmail.com  Wed May  2 15:07:16 2018
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 11:07:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Renew Membership
Message-ID: <CADGPg2uOYzFkBUNOB-AYW4E4p5WLKv22gcbXzt_VXRMUaOBqpw@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a preferred method to Amsat membership renewal?   I tried logging
into the Amsat website with my call and email address, and both are
unrecognized as having accounts.   I'd like to avoid having somebody
re-enter all my information into a database if there is some canned routine
that is best.    Thanks.

--Roy
K3RLD

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed May  2 15:43:21 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 11:43:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Renew Membership
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2uOYzFkBUNOB-AYW4E4p5WLKv22gcbXzt_VXRMUaOBqpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2uOYzFkBUNOB-AYW4E4p5WLKv22gcbXzt_VXRMUaOBqpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOq7V1ZfmbBa_SV=eE4V1x6w8xfW4h3Czjuxdsfzcq1hrg@mail.gmail.com>

We recommend renewing online via the AMSAT store.

With the exception of those that joined after mid-May last year
through a method other than the online store, all members should have
an account on the AMSAT website. By the end of May, our databases
should finally be synchronized and every member will have an account.
If you don't have an account on the AMSAT site, please set up a new
account, using your callsign as your user name. This record will be
merged with your existing membership database record within the next
few weeks.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice President
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)




On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a preferred method to Amsat membership renewal?   I tried logging
> into the Amsat website with my call and email address, and both are
> unrecognized as having accounts.   I'd like to avoid having somebody
> re-enter all my information into a database if there is some canned routine
> that is best.    Thanks.
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Wed May  2 16:16:46 2018
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 16:16:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UK Unicorn-2a PocketQube + HuskySat-1 transponder
	frequencies
References: <1088547034.5403988.1525277806998.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1088547034.5403988.1525277806998@mail.yahoo.com>

UK Unicorn-2a PocketQube Satellite 
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/01/unicorn-2a-pocketqube-satellite/

Amateur radio regulatory changes in Eire 
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/01/amateur-radio-regulatory-changes-in-eire/

HuskySat-1 Linear Transponder frequencies have been coordinated by IARU.
As well as the V/U transponder for SSB/CW the satellite also has a downlink on 24 GHz 
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=604

King?s High School ARISS contact on BBC TV 
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/04/19/kings-high-school-ariss-contact-bbc/

Emily Calandrelli's new book aimed at young people - Ada Lace, Take Me to Your Leader - features amateur radio and space communication. Sean Kutzko KX9X was an advisor for the book 
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2018/may/ada-lace-book-features-ham-radio.htm

AMSAT-EA May issue of English language newsletter now available 
https://www.amsat-ea.org/app/download/10352773/AMSAT-EA-Newsletter_05-2018.pdf

Trevor M5AKA
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From n4hf.philip at gmail.com  Wed May  2 19:03:41 2018
From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 15:03:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1990 version of ARRL's Satellite Experimenter's Handbook,
	by K2UBC
Message-ID: <CAGdEbNaooVgr_HX3kVsFq62br4SiTkGA3ytZ0pA7=f70xeoTjw@mail.gmail.com>

I was looking through my ham radio bookshelves (yes, plural!) a few weeks
ago, and I had nearly forgotten that I had this book...so I've been
re-reading it. (No, I'm not interested in selling it.... <grin>)

The history alone - details about the birds up to and including AO-13 -
makes for fascinating reading, never mind the  technical details for
orbital considerations, tracking, and building satellites. Remember that
this when AO-13 was only 2 years old, AO-7 hadn't been heard from in a few
years, and FM birds were only a twinkle in some engineer's eye.

If you can find this book, I highly recommend that you borrow/buy it -
quite interesting to read what was going on in the satellite world 28 years
ago!  (I bought it in late 92/early 93 to read on the plane trip to VP2M
for an AO-13 DXpedition.)

Philip N4HF

From vimone at alice.it  Wed May  2 19:24:03 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 21:24:03 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Digital Sats
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAOwjdZIIQhJBm4axbBmbPacBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hi to the list,
is there anybody that owns a Kenwood TS-2000 that has used
with the Digital FM satellites like the old KO-23 KO-25 UO-22 etc?
If yes how has do it as I have noticed that if I put into Satellite mode,
First I cannot put it in Packet mode and second the SUB RX becomes muted,
But if I set the SUB, as CW or LSB or USB,  the SUB becomes loud again.
If I am not into Sat mode, I can receive in any mode either on SUB or MAIN.
Is it normal or the radio has a problem?
Please How to work the Digital Satellite?
Any help will be really appreciated.


73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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      *************************************



From vlfiscus at mcn.net  Wed May  2 20:34:36 2018
From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 14:34:36 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1990 version of ARRL's Satellite Experimenter's
 Handbook, by K2UBC
In-Reply-To: <CAGdEbNaooVgr_HX3kVsFq62br4SiTkGA3ytZ0pA7=f70xeoTjw@mail.g
	mail.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20180502143017.00c5e940@pop.earthlink.net>

At 03:03 PM 5/2/2018 -0400, n4hf.philip at gmail.com wrote:
>I was looking through my ham radio bookshelves (yes, plural!) a few weeks
>ago, and I had nearly forgotten that I had this book...so I've been
>re-reading it. (No, I'm not interested in selling it.... <grin>)
>
>The history alone - details about the birds up to and including AO-13 -
>makes for fascinating reading, never mind the  technical details for
>orbital considerations, tracking, and building satellites. Remember that
>this when AO-13 was only 2 years old, AO-7 hadn't been heard from in a few
>years, and FM birds were only a twinkle in some engineer's eye.
>
>If you can find this book, I highly recommend that you borrow/buy it -
>quite interesting to read what was going on in the satellite world 28 years
>ago!  (I bought it in late 92/early 93 to read on the plane trip to VP2M
>for an AO-13 DXpedition.)
>
>Philip N4HF


I have both first and second additions.  Martin is an excellent author
and still pops up here in the BB sometimes.

and mine aren't for sale either.

KB7ADL


From burns at fisher.cc  Thu May  3 00:04:55 2018
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 20:04:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Contacts from N1T special event this weekend
Message-ID: <CABX7KxWiVSf3Ghmw9zVYHCg87W9ZXaETd5O8tbJibJYoxi5GOg@mail.gmail.com>

This Friday and Saturday (5/4 and 5/5 EDT) I'll be taking part in the New
England Tech Trek at NEAR-Fest. It?s a youth outreach STEM activity.  This
takes place at the Deerfield Fairgrounds in New Hampshire, USA.  I believe
the grid is FN43; we will be using special event call sign N1T.

I'll try to post a set of passes that we will be working with a GOTA (Get
On The Air) satellite station.  Remember there will be a bunch of
inexperienced kids (and me!) so I hope you will all be nice to us :-), but
also please respond and ragchew when appropriate.  I'll do my best to
record contacts and acknowledge QSLs, but this is my first time at this
sort of event, so we'll see what happens.

More later.

73, and thanks for your help!

Burns WB1FJ

From aj9n at aol.com  Thu May  3 09:20:07 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 05:20:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-03 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <163254d37dd-c8c-4d19@webjas-vae091.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-03 06:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



About Gagarin From The Space. Implementation Of The Session Of Radio-Love Communication With Participants Of "Artek" Change, near Black Sea, direct via RM6KD

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Anton Shkaplerov

Contact was successful Tue 2018-04-24 11:05 UTC (***)

?

Mill Springs Academy, Alpharetta, GA, direct via WA4MSA

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-03 15:47:30 UTC 25 deg



Students for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station, TX, direct via W5QZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-03 17:22:31 UTC 47 deg



Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, direct via WA4SXM/N4CFB

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-05-07 13:54:10 UTC 23 deg



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103 (***)


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-03 06:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1224. ?(***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1173. ?(***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-03 06:00 UTC. ?(***)


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu May  3 17:21:30 2018
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 17:21:30 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Sierra Vista AZ hamfest, Saturday (5 May)
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUeaFisoCPROVMU18KCgXH+smmzQmNsaamMFXMPY9emjXA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT table at the Cochise Amateur Radio Association's annual
hamfest on Saturday morning, 5 May 2018. The hamfest will be held at the
CARA's "Green Acres" field, along Moson Road south of AZ-90 in Sierra Vista,
Arizona. More information about the hamfest is available in the flyer at:

http://www.k7rdg.org/2-Events/2018_CARA_Hamfest.pdf

During the morning, I will have on-air demonstrations of satellite operating
from the hamfest site. I will use my own call sign WD9EWK, and please call
WD9EWK to be part of the demonstrations. All QSOs will be uploaded to
Logbook
of the World sometime after the hamfest. The hamfest site is in DM41.

I will post updates from the hamfest on my @WD9EWK Twitter account. If you
do
not use Twitter, you can still see these updates in a web browser without a
Twitter account:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

I will squawk WD9EWK-9 to the APRS network as I drive to and from the
hamfest,
and around southeastern Arizona. This should be visible on various web
sites,
including:

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

Thanks, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From burns at fisher.cc  Thu May  3 23:23:16 2018
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 19:23:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Contacts from N1T special event this weekend
In-Reply-To: <CABX7KxWiVSf3Ghmw9zVYHCg87W9ZXaETd5O8tbJibJYoxi5GOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABX7KxWiVSf3Ghmw9zVYHCg87W9ZXaETd5O8tbJibJYoxi5GOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxX10frsguM7PMEgLPXy4PMUoRw0buOqiCHmiL3_9+W9kg@mail.gmail.com>

I posted a list of passes on the AMSAT Facebook pate for Friday that are
visible from FN43.  I expect to be working most, if not all passes on
Friday between about 1030 EDT (1430Z) to about 1600EDT (2000Z).  Saturday,
the times are different and I'll post those when I figure it out :-)


On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Burns Fisher <burns at fisher.cc> wrote:

> This Friday and Saturday (5/4 and 5/5 EDT) I'll be taking part in the New
> England Tech Trek at NEAR-Fest. It?s a youth outreach STEM activity.  This
> takes place at the Deerfield Fairgrounds in New Hampshire, USA.  I believe
> the grid is FN43; we will be using special event call sign N1T.
>
> I'll try to post a set of passes that we will be working with a GOTA (Get
> On The Air) satellite station.  Remember there will be a bunch of
> inexperienced kids (and me!) so I hope you will all be nice to us :-), but
> also please respond and ragchew when appropriate.  I'll do my best to
> record contacts and acknowledge QSLs, but this is my first time at this
> sort of event, so we'll see what happens.
>
> More later.
>
> 73, and thanks for your help!
>
> Burns WB1FJ
>

From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Thu May  3 23:58:59 2018
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 19:58:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good SAT program
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8Mt_kAcp2nXAR_oM9LjxnT22DUh36v6+UBPyPe+fQG+-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E6448785-A855-4E20-85F4-16C320A81A48@alice.it>
	<CAAJiE8Mt_kAcp2nXAR_oM9LjxnT22DUh36v6+UBPyPe+fQG+-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABsMmtSGxd9xaHxNOu3Bfjoczm76_QvJDVvCSxVqD=E-B3kqxw@mail.gmail.com>

Vincenzo,

How many satellites at a time do you want to look at?  SATpc32 can show up
to twelve at a time and that is more than I can visually keep track of.

John

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you tried GPredict? It is available for Linux, OSX, and Windows. I do
> not know if it would satisfy your requirements, but it is free.
>
> 73, Don KB2YSI
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 03:21 Vincenzo Mone <vimone at alice.it> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> > I am looking for a good program like Orbitron or the old Satsked that
> > gives me the possibility to keep under the eyes all the satellite and in
> > the mean time has the possibility to track the satellites moving also the
> > rotators and the radio.I was using SatPC interfaced with the rotators
> with
> > the ERC-M kit and the Kenwood TS-2000x. It is a great program but has the
> > problem that I do not have under my eyes all the satellites and have
> > noticed that if I am visualising in one group and in another group there
> is
> > a satellite rising I will not be advised.
> > Orbitron is OK as I can have all the satellites under my eyes but I
> cannot
> > or better I do not know how to interface it with the radio and the Yaesu
> > G-5500 rotators via the ERC-M interface kit.
> > Anybody can point me to the right way?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > 73's de Enzo IK8OZV
> > EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> > EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> > WinBollet BetaTester
> > D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> > Skype: ik8ozv8520
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >      *******************************************
> >      *******    GSM  +39 328 7110193    *******
> >      ******       SMS  +39 328 7110193    *******
> >      ********************************************
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri May  4 01:27:00 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 21:27:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
Message-ID: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>

I don't want to be an alarmist, but we need the Hams with the proper
knowledge to get involved in this disturbing news.

The National Electric Code now requires electronics on every module of a
solar array communicating  via signalling on the DC power lines to assure
EACH pair of panels can shut down independently.  This is to make all
possible faults never allow more than 80 volts anywhere in the system.
This is effective 1 Jan 2019

This is the nail in the coffin of simple DC series string arrays which are
the quietest systems and almost demands microinverters or optimizers on
every panel.  Refer to the QST article a few years ago about how disastrous
optimizers are to RFI and HF operations with modules all over the roof..

Here is the Solar news:
https://solarbuildermag.com/bos/nec-2017-module-level-solar-system-shutdown/

Also, what is going to happen to an array that has signaling all over it in
the near field of HF?

Although you can avoid it by going solar before then, you may have problems
when your neighbors go later.

I hate  to be an alarmist but we all know what happens when ham radio and
commercial systems are incompatible and even though Ham radio might be in
the right, we are only 1 in 600 and no one is going to side with us.

We took on broadband over power and squelched that dumb idea, but now this
has the potential for equal demise of Ham radio.  It should be fixable, but
we also know that there is high competition in the solar market and the
modules that are made the cheapest  will be popular and will likely not be
adequately filtered.

Sorry for posting to the AMSAT-bb but it is the only HAM email reflector I
subscribe to.

If nothing else, we need to find out what systems are terrible emitters and
nip them in the bud.  Maybe all it takes is driving by solar systems you
see and turing on your AM radio on a weak signal channel and seeing if the
background noise peaks near that home.  But also it has individual peaks,
so it might also be nice to tune around too find the max and then check the
range.  I find the noise can go hundreds of feet along the power lines....

You cant miss  em... just sounds like a 60 Hz buzz on all the harmonics of
the inverter switching frequency.

Bob
WB4APR

From aj9n at aol.com  Fri May  4 07:57:20 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 03:57:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-04 07:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <1632a27c984-c8a-37287@webjas-vac009.srv.aolmail.net>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-04 07:30 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



Mill Springs Academy, Alpharetta, GA, direct via WA4MSA

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact was successful for: Thu 2018-05-03 15:47:30 UTC 25 deg (***)



Students for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station, TX, direct via W5QZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact was successful for: Thu 2018-05-03 17:22:31 UTC 47 deg (***)



Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, direct via WA4SXM/N4CFB

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-05-07 13:54:10 UTC 23 deg



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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-04 07:30 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1226. ?(***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1175. ?(***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-04 07:30 UTC. ?(***)


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

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Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Fri May  4 11:33:49 2018
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans (BX2ABT))
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 19:33:49 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>

I don't want to be a pessimist, but I think HF (and lower) is history 
anyway. If it's not this new breed of solar arrays, then it will be 
something else. Residential noise levels are up so high in many places 
already that HF is unworkable anyway. Even VHF is starting to suffer 
from increased noise levels. The only hope is that any commercial or 
government service using that particular part of the spectrum is 
affected, then the solutions are available before you know it. Sad but true.

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


On 05/04/2018 09:27 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I don't want to be an alarmist, but we need the Hams with the proper
> knowledge to get involved in this disturbing news.
>
> The National Electric Code now requires electronics on every module of a
> solar array communicating  via signalling on the DC power lines to assure
> EACH pair of panels can shut down independently.  This is to make all
> possible faults never allow more than 80 volts anywhere in the system.
> This is effective 1 Jan 2019
>
> This is the nail in the coffin of simple DC series string arrays which are
> the quietest systems and almost demands microinverters or optimizers on
> every panel.  Refer to the QST article a few years ago about how disastrous
> optimizers are to RFI and HF operations with modules all over the roof..
>
> Here is the Solar news:
> https://solarbuildermag.com/bos/nec-2017-module-level-solar-system-shutdown/
>
> Also, what is going to happen to an array that has signaling all over it in
> the near field of HF?
>
> Although you can avoid it by going solar before then, you may have problems
> when your neighbors go later.
>
> I hate  to be an alarmist but we all know what happens when ham radio and
> commercial systems are incompatible and even though Ham radio might be in
> the right, we are only 1 in 600 and no one is going to side with us.
>
> We took on broadband over power and squelched that dumb idea, but now this
> has the potential for equal demise of Ham radio.  It should be fixable, but
> we also know that there is high competition in the solar market and the
> modules that are made the cheapest  will be popular and will likely not be
> adequately filtered.
>
> Sorry for posting to the AMSAT-bb but it is the only HAM email reflector I
> subscribe to.
>
> If nothing else, we need to find out what systems are terrible emitters and
> nip them in the bud.  Maybe all it takes is driving by solar systems you
> see and turing on your AM radio on a weak signal channel and seeing if the
> background noise peaks near that home.  But also it has individual peaks,
> so it might also be nice to tune around too find the max and then check the
> range.  I find the noise can go hundreds of feet along the power lines....
>
> You cant miss  em... just sounds like a 60 Hz buzz on all the harmonics of
> the inverter switching frequency.
>
> Bob
> WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>
>


From n6jsx at yahoo.com  Fri May  4 12:32:49 2018
From: n6jsx at yahoo.com (Dale Kubichek)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 12:32:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
References: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>

I just read WB4APR message on Solar device HF noise and Han's concurrence. There is an ever growing problem of noise intrusion on many bands that the FCC does not appear to care about. Even if we do all the leg work, RDF'ing the source, and 'giving' the data to the FCC they do nothing. 

Now here is where Big-Brother ARRL should stand up and create an open online reporting DB for HAMs to list the specifics of reoccurring HAM Band Noise, but not. After X number of concurrence ARRL legal could give the data to FCC WDC and hope for a resolution. 

I've been consulting in the Cleveland area for a over a year during my daily commute my SUV FTM-400 scan stops on any of the FM SAT birds for a 1/4mile either side of the I-271 & I-480/Hwy-422 intersection. It is a solid +S40 FM white noise blanking a wide area of 2meters. Just to the west of this intersection on the hill is a big commercial comm tower on the University Hospitals Home Care Services building too. For the FCC this is easy citation money - if they would ever patrol large city's again. 

Best regards,?? 
Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA

From royldean at gmail.com  Fri May  4 15:03:37 2018
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 11:03:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Contacts from N1T special event this weekend
Message-ID: <CADGPg2v1YnE=AY0g=G8LQD=P9qEgvvvQvKVyzTPx59d+uw3p0g@mail.gmail.com>

Burns - Just FYI:

Last AO-92 (14:50z), N1T was full quieting into the bird, but audio was
very low.   It got a little louder towards the end of the pass.

--Roy
K3RLD

From tasmac at w5pfg.us  Fri May  4 16:19:33 2018
From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 11:19:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EL58hx Grid Expedition - 25-27 May
Message-ID: <dbce8285-7bd5-a87b-29cf-63c2e47f9934@w5pfg.us>

The activation of maidenhead grid square EL58hx by W5PFG & AC0RA is just 
three weeks away. Even if you are not a grid or awards chaser, we would 
love to work you during this expedition via satellite. There are no 
permanent residents of this grid square, as the majority of it is open 
water in the Gulf of Mexico. What little land in EL58 is sandbar at 
mouth of the Mississippi River and accessible only by boat. See here: 
http://qthlocator.free.fr/index.php?locator=el58hx

During the entire expedition, we will be land-based in the grid, meaning 
this activation will count as Louisiana, Plaquemines Parish (County), 
USA. It counts as Islands on the Air IOTA NA-168, Burwood Island. If you 
participate in the 2018 ARRL International Grid Chase, this might be 
your only opportunity to work EL58.

Operating activity is estimated to begin around 23:00 UTC on 25 May. 
There are some variability in our arrival time and it will take us some 
time to prepare the site for operation. We will likely conclude 
operations around 15:00 UTC on 27 May.

There are a total of 110 satellite passes predicted, 42 being FM. While 
we won't work every one of those, we should be on the ones that fall 
into good times and the best footprints over population centers. The 
list below are satellites we plan to utilize:

FM: SO-50, AO-85, AO-91, AO-92
SSB: AO-7, FO-29, AO-73, XW-2A, XW-2B, XW-2C, XW-2F, CAS-4B

Skeds are available for DX and stations greater than 6000 kms distance 
from EL58hx. Sked via direct email only to w5pfg at arrl dot net.

Even if you worked the previous EL58 trip (K5L/mm), we'd love to work 
you again. This expedition we will use callsign W5PFG on satellites and 
AC0RA on 6m. We are hoping to work and confirm as many grid squares as 
possible, so if you want to work us from a nearby grid line to your home 
QTH, it is appreciated!

AC0RA is responsible for the 6m side of our activation. You may hear 
either of us on 20m and 40m. Any one who works us is encourage to spot us.

I may activate other grids in route to EL58, especially Friday morning 
the 25th. I'll try to announce those via Twitter @w5pfg but it may be on 
short notice.

73,
Clayton
W5PFG

From jim at k6ccc.org  Fri May  4 16:53:02 2018
From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?The_end_of_daytime_HF=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>
References: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <1525452782.06167612@apps.rackspace.com>

Well, I'll have to see how my brand new solar install sounds once it's operational.  The 28 panels with micro-inverters on each panel are installed, but not energized yet.  Being sunny southern California, there is lots of solar around here - the nearest being two doors east of me.  However I'm not active on HF, so I have no basis for how the noise floor has changed.  Since I have a couple weeks before my system can go on line (main panel replacement required), I will hook up an HF radio to something and try to get some before and after noise floor measurements.

Jim Walls
K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org



On 05/04/2018 09:27 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I don't want to be an alarmist, but we need the Hams with the proper
> knowledge to get involved in this disturbing news.
>
> The National Electric Code now requires electronics on every module of a
> solar array communicating  via signalling on the DC power lines to assure
> EACH pair of panels can shut down independently.  This is to make all
> possible faults never allow more than 80 volts anywhere in the system.
> This is effective 1 Jan 2019
>
> This is the nail in the coffin of simple DC series string arrays which are
> the quietest systems and almost demands microinverters or optimizers on
> every panel.  Refer to the QST article a few years ago about how disastrous
> optimizers are to RFI and HF operations with modules all over the roof..
>
> Here is the Solar news:
> https://solarbuildermag.com/bos/nec-2017-module-level-solar-system-shutdown/
>
> Also, what is going to happen to an array that has signaling all over it in
> the near field of HF?
>
> Although you can avoid it by going solar before then, you may have problems
> when your neighbors go later.
>
> I hate  to be an alarmist but we all know what happens when ham radio and
> commercial systems are incompatible and even though Ham radio might be in
> the right, we are only 1 in 600 and no one is going to side with us.
>
> We took on broadband over power and squelched that dumb idea, but now this
> has the potential for equal demise of Ham radio.  It should be fixable, but
> we also know that there is high competition in the solar market and the
> modules that are made the cheapest  will be popular and will likely not be
> adequately filtered.
>
> Sorry for posting to the AMSAT-bb but it is the only HAM email reflector I
> subscribe to.
>
> If nothing else, we need to find out what systems are terrible emitters and
> nip them in the bud.  Maybe all it takes is driving by solar systems you
> see and turing on your AM radio on a weak signal channel and seeing if the
> background noise peaks near that home.  But also it has individual peaks,
> so it might also be nice to tune around too find the max and then check the
> range.  I find the noise can go hundreds of feet along the power lines....
>
> You cant miss  em... just sounds like a 60 Hz buzz on all the harmonics of
> the inverter switching frequency.
>
> Bob
> WB4APR




From uli at df5sf-qrp.de  Fri May  4 16:16:03 2018
From: uli at df5sf-qrp.de (uli at df5sf-qrp.de)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 18:16:03 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie
Message-ID: <000001d3e3c3$33df33b0$9b9d9b10$@df5sf-qrp.de>

Hello,

 

I have an HT Kenwood TH-7 and now building a 4 element duoband LPDA for
satellite operation.

I found a lot of helpful information in the internet. Some infos are in
conflict with other.

 

Are this infos ok ?

 

SO50:

Transmit 145.850 MHz fix  FM 67.0 Hz,  RX from 436.815 MHz to 436.795 MHz   

 

AO91:

Transmit from 435.240 MHz to 435,260 MHz FM 67.0Hz , RX 145.960 MHz fix

 

AO85:

Transmit from 435.160 MHz to 435.180 MHz  FM 67.0 Hz ,  RX 145.980 MHz fix

 

Many thanks

73

Uli

DF5SF


From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri May  4 17:48:22 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 13:48:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
In-Reply-To: <1525452782.06167612@apps.rackspace.com>
References: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>
	<1525452782.06167612@apps.rackspace.com>
Message-ID: <56fde929b82e816f43d707e9ddb1fb2e@mail.gmail.com>

Great.
This is the kind of measured data we need.

And I do try to remember to tune in the AM band when I drive by a solar
house, but the RFI on AM in my electric car is so high, it is impossible
to tell whether it is comoing from the solar and power lines or my car
itself (on AM).

I know I can hear my array every XX Khz up through 10 meters (I forget the
increment) but since all of my HF dipoles have fallen, I don't have a good
benchmark, and now my neighbor has solar too, so I cant just shut mine
down for quiet.  Fortunately, my AC disconnect is right by the kitchen
door if I ever do get back on HF.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of jim at k6ccc.org
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 12:53 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?

Well, I'll have to see how my brand new solar install sounds once it's
operational.  The 28 panels with micro-inverters on each panel are
installed, but not energized yet.  Being sunny southern California, there
is lots of solar around here - the nearest being two doors east of me.
However I'm not active on HF, so I have no basis for how the noise floor
has changed.  Since I have a couple weeks before my system can go on line
(main panel replacement required), I will hook up an HF radio to something
and try to get some before and after noise floor measurements.

Jim Walls
K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org



On 05/04/2018 09:27 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I don't want to be an alarmist, but we need the Hams with the proper
> knowledge to get involved in this disturbing news.
>
> The National Electric Code now requires electronics on every module of
> a solar array communicating  via signalling on the DC power lines to
> assure EACH pair of panels can shut down independently.  This is to
> make all possible faults never allow more than 80 volts anywhere in the
system.
> This is effective 1 Jan 2019
>
> This is the nail in the coffin of simple DC series string arrays which
> are the quietest systems and almost demands microinverters or
> optimizers on every panel.  Refer to the QST article a few years ago
> about how disastrous optimizers are to RFI and HF operations with
modules all over the roof..
>
> Here is the Solar news:
> https://solarbuildermag.com/bos/nec-2017-module-level-solar-system-shu
> tdown/
>
> Also, what is going to happen to an array that has signaling all over
> it in the near field of HF?
>
> Although you can avoid it by going solar before then, you may have
> problems when your neighbors go later.
>
> I hate  to be an alarmist but we all know what happens when ham radio
> and commercial systems are incompatible and even though Ham radio
> might be in the right, we are only 1 in 600 and no one is going to side
with us.
>
> We took on broadband over power and squelched that dumb idea, but now
> this has the potential for equal demise of Ham radio.  It should be
> fixable, but we also know that there is high competition in the solar
> market and the modules that are made the cheapest  will be popular and
> will likely not be adequately filtered.
>
> Sorry for posting to the AMSAT-bb but it is the only HAM email
> reflector I subscribe to.
>
> If nothing else, we need to find out what systems are terrible
> emitters and nip them in the bud.  Maybe all it takes is driving by
> solar systems you see and turing on your AM radio on a weak signal
> channel and seeing if the background noise peaks near that home.  But
> also it has individual peaks, so it might also be nice to tune around
> too find the max and then check the range.  I find the noise can go
hundreds of feet along the power lines....
>
> You cant miss  em... just sounds like a 60 Hz buzz on all the
> harmonics of the inverter switching frequency.
>
> Bob
> WB4APR



_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Fri May  4 17:47:25 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 13:47:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie
In-Reply-To: <000001d3e3c3$33df33b0$9b9d9b10$@df5sf-qrp.de>
References: <000001d3e3c3$33df33b0$9b9d9b10$@df5sf-qrp.de>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8OBCFPn1UtoLf+-GjVs88PC5F=yGS-iesC09TZrQndHOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here are the FM birds base frequencies:

AO-85 (Fox-1A) 435.170 MHz 145.980 MHz Operational
AO-91 (RadFxSat / Fox-1B) 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Operational
AO-92 (Fox-1D) 435.350 MHz & 1267.359 MHz* 145.880 MHz Operational
______* Switchable by command station. Not operational simultaneously.

SO-50 145.850 MHz 436.795 MHz Operational

Source: https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/




Page 2 has the layout of how to program the 70cm band, it is the same
steps for SO-50 just on RX not TX:
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/FoxOperatingGuide_2018_Lo.pdf


This PDF has the SO-50 memory settings:
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-20131010.pdf



Found most of these on: https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/

I hope these help.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:16 PM,  <uli at df5sf-qrp.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have an HT Kenwood TH-7 and now building a 4 element duoband LPDA for
> satellite operation.
>
> I found a lot of helpful information in the internet. Some infos are in
> conflict with other.
>
>
>
> Are this infos ok ?
>
>
>
> SO50:
>
> Transmit 145.850 MHz fix  FM 67.0 Hz,  RX from 436.815 MHz to 436.795 MHz
>
>
>
> AO91:
>
> Transmit from 435.240 MHz to 435,260 MHz FM 67.0Hz , RX 145.960 MHz fix
>
>
>
> AO85:
>
> Transmit from 435.160 MHz to 435.180 MHz  FM 67.0 Hz ,  RX 145.980 MHz fix
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> 73
>
> Uli
>
> DF5SF
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



-- 
73, Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi

From dxdx at optonline.net  Fri May  4 18:56:53 2018
From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 14:56:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
In-Reply-To: <56fde929b82e816f43d707e9ddb1fb2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>
	<1525452782.06167612@apps.rackspace.com>
	<56fde929b82e816f43d707e9ddb1fb2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <66957774-e110-f55e-baa3-592b3bd185dd@optonline.net>

All:

I have an ongoing RFI case with the solar panel manufacturer, Solar 
Edge. Their field engineer, Tom Simpson, has handled many RFI cases in 
the past so they are aware of the problem.

My case is on schedule for repair and Tom assures me that the RFI will 
be negligible once the proper RFI suppression methods are installed. The 
RFI emanates from a neighbors solar panel system about 150 feet from my 
home.

In my case, the noise began the day the system was installed so finding 
the source was easy. Knowing who the manufacturer was helped get the 
ball rolling. If that's not possible, file a complaint with the FCC and 
be persistent. Mike Gruber of the ARRL can assist: mgruber at arrl.org 
<mailto:Tom.Simpson at solaredge.com>

If you know of a Solar Edge system causing RFI, contact Tom at: 
Tom.Simpson at solaredge.com <mailto:Tom.Simpson at solaredge.com>
Additional Contact Info: T.J. Simpson, Solar Edge Field Engineer Phone: 
510-498-3262

Tony-Brock Fishers April 2016 QST article "Can Home Solar Power and 
Amateur Radio Coexist?? may help those who purchased a home system. He 
writes about Solar Edge products and the RFI suppression methods he used.

By the way, the noise has shown itself on VHF as well so it's not just HF.

Tony -K2MO


From eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org  Fri May  4 19:20:05 2018
From: eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org (Eric Fort)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 12:20:05 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
In-Reply-To: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F6C59174-7777-41FF-B5EF-B6B3536F3650@fortconsulting.org>

Maybe the better solution is a bit more neighborly. Get a group of hams together to definitively find the source of the interference and go talk with those who are responsible and be nice about it. Also just because there is a big tower in the same area as the interference does not mean the tower is the source. Correlation does not equal causation. Some other things to consider..... is this broadband noise you describe a constant carrier or does it rise and fall possibly with another source or sources on another frequency or frequencies (which ones)?  Where specifically does the interference come from?  Can and have you triangulated and tracked it down definitely to its source of origin and can you prove the geographic source location with hard data down to a radius of oh at least a couple hundred feet or so?  Most of the people I know that work with radio and communications systems are pretty conscientious about keeping their systems in good working order and fixing things (like interference) when they know they have a problem. Could it be that no one has alerted the proper responsible parties in a polite and helpful way with hard data to back it up and document the issue as to time, place, and characteristics as documented above?  Also note that if the source *is* found to be something related to emcomm systems they generally have another reason to be nice, helpful, and responsive to hams.  We tend to be their backup when all hell breaks loose. So go get a group of friends together and organize a t-hunt. Once you can define exactly where, when, (and how) the interference occurs, make some polite and inquisitive calls to find the parties responsible and offer to help resolve the issue however you can. The relationships you build through this process will likely be long lasting and have the potential to pay dividends over the long term for the entire amateur community. 

Af6ep 

Sent using SMTP.

> On May 4, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I just read WB4APR message on Solar device HF noise and Han's concurrence. There is an ever growing problem of noise intrusion on many bands that the FCC does not appear to care about. Even if we do all the leg work, RDF'ing the source, and 'giving' the data to the FCC they do nothing. 
> 
> Now here is where Big-Brother ARRL should stand up and create an open online reporting DB for HAMs to list the specifics of reoccurring HAM Band Noise, but not. After X number of concurrence ARRL legal could give the data to FCC WDC and hope for a resolution. 
> 
> I've been consulting in the Cleveland area for a over a year during my daily commute my SUV FTM-400 scan stops on any of the FM SAT birds for a 1/4mile either side of the I-271 & I-480/Hwy-422 intersection. It is a solid +S40 FM white noise blanking a wide area of 2meters. Just to the west of this intersection on the hill is a big commercial comm tower on the University Hospitals Home Care Services building too. For the FCC this is easy citation money - if they would ever patrol large city's again. 
> 
> Best regards,   
> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From skristof at etczone.com  Fri May  4 20:02:26 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 16:02:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
In-Reply-To: <66957774-e110-f55e-baa3-592b3bd185dd@optonline.net>
References: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>
	<1525452782.06167612@apps.rackspace.com>
	<56fde929b82e816f43d707e9ddb1fb2e@mail.gmail.com>
	<66957774-e110-f55e-baa3-592b3bd185dd@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <bc2000734574d18989c7ea1db90620be@etczone.com>

I've had solar panels with optimizers for 4 months and they definitely
cause RFI on both HF and VHF. I think they are Solar Edge panels. I'll
confirm the manufacturer and, if they are Solar Edge panels, I'll
contact Mr. Simpson. I'll send a follow-up to this forum once I found
out more. 

By the way, I specifically asked the installer about RFI and he told me
that he never heard any complaints about it. Selective listening? 

Of course, I should've done my homework first, but maybe there's a way
to make it work. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-04 14:56, Tony wrote:

> All:
> 
> I have an ongoing RFI case with the solar panel manufacturer, Solar Edge. Their field engineer, Tom Simpson, has handled many RFI cases in the past so they are aware of the problem.
> 
> My case is on schedule for repair and Tom assures me that the RFI will be negligible once the proper RFI suppression methods are installed. The RFI emanates from a neighbors solar panel system about 150 feet from my home.
> 
> In my case, the noise began the day the system was installed so finding the source was easy. Knowing who the manufacturer was helped get the ball rolling. If that's not possible, file a complaint with the FCC and be persistent. Mike Gruber of the ARRL can assist: mgruber at arrl.org <mailto:Tom.Simpson at solaredge.com>
> 
> If you know of a Solar Edge system causing RFI, contact Tom at: Tom.Simpson at solaredge.com <mailto:Tom.Simpson at solaredge.com>
> Additional Contact Info: T.J. Simpson, Solar Edge Field Engineer Phone: 510-498-3262
> 
> Tony-Brock Fishers April 2016 QST article "Can Home Solar Power and Amateur Radio Coexist?" may help those who purchased a home system. He writes about Solar Edge products and the RFI suppression methods he used.
> 
> By the way, the noise has shown itself on VHF as well so it's not just HF.
> 
> Tony -K2MO
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Fri May  4 20:53:19 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 16:53:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8OBCFPn1UtoLf+-GjVs88PC5F=yGS-iesC09TZrQndHOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d3e3c3$33df33b0$9b9d9b10$@df5sf-qrp.de>
	<CAAJiE8OBCFPn1UtoLf+-GjVs88PC5F=yGS-iesC09TZrQndHOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8PLuYeyfgghyzXua2SX5Y0cP_iN+RwvUP72F3hoexg9vA@mail.gmail.com>

Just ran across this handy guide from K6LCS's site, www.work-stat.com:
 http://www.work-sat.com/Home_files/FM-VOICE-SATS-1Q-2018b.pdf  Sadly
AO-85 is not on the sheet, but it should not be hard to figure out
what to use following the same for the other Fox birds (AO-##'s).

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are the FM birds base frequencies:
>
> AO-85 (Fox-1A) 435.170 MHz 145.980 MHz Operational
> AO-91 (RadFxSat / Fox-1B) 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Operational
> AO-92 (Fox-1D) 435.350 MHz & 1267.359 MHz* 145.880 MHz Operational
> ______* Switchable by command station. Not operational simultaneously.
>
> SO-50 145.850 MHz 436.795 MHz Operational
>
> Source: https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
>
>
>
>
> Page 2 has the layout of how to program the 70cm band, it is the same
> steps for SO-50 just on RX not TX:
> https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/FoxOperatingGuide_2018_Lo.pdf
>
>
> This PDF has the SO-50 memory settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-20131010.pdf
>
>
>
> Found most of these on: https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/
>
> I hope these help.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:16 PM,  <uli at df5sf-qrp.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an HT Kenwood TH-7 and now building a 4 element duoband LPDA for
>> satellite operation.
>>
>> I found a lot of helpful information in the internet. Some infos are in
>> conflict with other.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are this infos ok ?
>>
>>
>>
>> SO50:
>>
>> Transmit 145.850 MHz fix  FM 67.0 Hz,  RX from 436.815 MHz to 436.795 MHz
>>
>>
>>
>> AO91:
>>
>> Transmit from 435.240 MHz to 435,260 MHz FM 67.0Hz , RX 145.960 MHz fix
>>
>>
>>
>> AO85:
>>
>> Transmit from 435.160 MHz to 435.180 MHz  FM 67.0 Hz ,  RX 145.980 MHz fix
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> DF5SF
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
> --
> 73, Don KB2YSI
> https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi



-- 
73, Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri May  4 20:58:02 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 16:58:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Share a hotel room for Hamvention?
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPKL-QfNhH62VX9wD79hGpAmJucpK62ftNH59JEL_xL=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi friends,

I procrastinated and now hotel rooms are expensive and few and far
between. I am looking to share a room with someone that already has
one booked. I will split the cost so that would be good for you. I
would prefer the hotel AMSAT has a block in but I know beggars can't
be choosers so I will take what I can get. I will give you a free
Space Comms t-shirt if you want one too :-)

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Fri May  4 21:02:07 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 17:02:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Contacts from N1T special event this weekend
In-Reply-To: <CABX7KxWiVSf3Ghmw9zVYHCg87W9ZXaETd5O8tbJibJYoxi5GOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABX7KxWiVSf3Ghmw9zVYHCg87W9ZXaETd5O8tbJibJYoxi5GOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZbp5DggM37xMhuphctCjw6uhDPy+nmWU=r-U172mD_dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sounded great on the 2039 UTC CAS-4B pass on May 4!  Thanks for the contact.

Hope you all have a great weekend & hope to hear you on other satellites.

-Scott,  K4KDR


=========================

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Burns Fisher <burns at fisher.cc> wrote:

> This Friday and Saturday (5/4 and 5/5 EDT) I'll be taking part in the New
> England Tech Trek at NEAR-Fest. It?s a youth outreach STEM activity.  This
> takes place at the Deerfield Fairgrounds in New Hampshire, USA.  I believe
> the grid is FN43; we will be using special event call sign N1T.
>
> I'll try to post a set of passes that we will be working with a GOTA (Get
> On The Air) satellite station.  Remember there will be a bunch of
> inexperienced kids (and me!) so I hope you will all be nice to us :-), but
> also please respond and ragchew when appropriate.  I'll do my best to
> record contacts and acknowledge QSLs, but this is my first time at this
> sort of event, so we'll see what happens.
>
> More later.
>
> 73, and thanks for your help!
>
> Burns WB1FJ

From dxdx at optonline.net  Fri May  4 21:08:45 2018
From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 17:08:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
In-Reply-To: <bc2000734574d18989c7ea1db90620be@etczone.com>
References: <CALdCfNKgZE7=-ehEYktaHkUpYMMzbGTCf=90SRu2Gu9E0LgZNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<871470d5-dcb2-7271-0b2a-3cf22ee587eb@msa.hinet.net>
	<1525452782.06167612@apps.rackspace.com>
	<56fde929b82e816f43d707e9ddb1fb2e@mail.gmail.com>
	<66957774-e110-f55e-baa3-592b3bd185dd@optonline.net>
	<bc2000734574d18989c7ea1db90620be@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <65a1fdd1-d499-f45d-a27a-bc66055b23da@optonline.net>

On 5/4/2018 4:02 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> By the way, I specifically asked the installer about RFI and he told me
> that he never heard any complaints about it. Selective listening?

Solar City (the company who installed my my neighbors Solar Edge system) 
said the same thing. I later learned that there were several other cases 
pending. It may also be that some decide to live with the problem and 
not to do anything about it. With so many solar systems being installed, 
I find it hard to believe the problem isn't affecting a large number of 
hams.

> Of course, I should've done my homework first, but maybe there's a way
> to make it work.
Contact Tony K1FP. He can guide you in the right direction. 
barockteer at aol.com

Tony -K2MO


From n6jsx at yahoo.com  Fri May  4 21:58:20 2018
From: n6jsx at yahoo.com (Dale Kubichek)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 21:58:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
In-Reply-To: <F6C59174-7777-41FF-B5EF-B6B3536F3650@fortconsulting.org>
References: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F6C59174-7777-41FF-B5EF-B6B3536F3650@fortconsulting.org>
Message-ID: <122429083.25525.1525471100791@mail.yahoo.com>

Sir,
??? Before you lecture me on etiquette, how to kumbaya, or methods I need to know if you were ever a LA Section OOC? And how many Southern California All-Day, Fullerton, Nohl Ranch, ALL-Night, Pathfinder T-Hunts have you ever won? Do you know who started the Pathfinder T-Hunt or won the WA6FAT OIALT Hunt? Thank you very much. 

Best regards,?? 
Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
? 

    On Friday, May 4, 2018, 3:20:09 PM EDT, Eric Fort <eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote:  
 
 Maybe the better solution is a bit more neighborly. Get a group of hams together to definitively find the source of the interference and go talk with those who are responsible and be nice about it. Also just because there is a big tower in the same area as the interference does not mean the tower is the source. Correlation does not equal causation. Some other things to consider..... is this broadband noise you describe a constant carrier or does it rise and fall possibly with another source or sources on another frequency or frequencies (which ones)?? Where specifically does the interference come from?? Can and have you triangulated and tracked it down definitely to its source of origin and can you prove the geographic source location with hard data down to a radius of oh at least a couple hundred feet or so?? Most of the people I know that work with radio and communications systems are pretty conscientious about keeping their systems in good working order and fixing things (like interference) when they know they have a problem. Could it be that no one has alerted the proper responsible parties in a polite and helpful way with hard data to back it up and document the issue as to time, place, and characteristics as documented above?? Also note that if the source *is* found to be something related to emcomm systems they generally have another reason to be nice, helpful, and responsive to hams.? We tend to be their backup when all hell breaks loose. So go get a group of friends together and organize a t-hunt. Once you can define exactly where, when, (and how) the interference occurs, make some polite and inquisitive calls to find the parties responsible and offer to help resolve the issue however you can. The relationships you build through this process will likely be long lasting and have the potential to pay dividends over the long term for the entire amateur community. 

Af6ep 

Sent using SMTP.

> On May 4, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I just read WB4APR message on Solar device HF noise and Han's concurrence. There is an ever growing problem of noise intrusion on many bands that the FCC does not appear to care about. Even if we do all the leg work, RDF'ing the source, and 'giving' the data to the FCC they do nothing. 
> 
> Now here is where Big-Brother ARRL should stand up and create an open online reporting DB for HAMs to list the specifics of reoccurring HAM Band Noise, but not. After X number of concurrence ARRL legal could give the data to FCC WDC and hope for a resolution. 
> 
> I've been consulting in the Cleveland area for a over a year during my daily commute my SUV FTM-400 scan stops on any of the FM SAT birds for a 1/4mile either side of the I-271 & I-480/Hwy-422 intersection. It is a solid +S40 FM white noise blanking a wide area of 2meters. Just to the west of this intersection on the hill is a big commercial comm tower on the University Hospitals Home Care Services building too. For the FCC this is easy citation money - if they would ever patrol large city's again. 
> 
> Best regards,? 
> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
  

From skristof at etczone.com  Fri May  4 22:51:30 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 18:51:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
In-Reply-To: <122429083.25525.1525471100791@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F6C59174-7777-41FF-B5EF-B6B3536F3650@fortconsulting.org>
	<122429083.25525.1525471100791@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bf86cdde96cf00eeda087fa128f02ef4@etczone.com>

Wow. A person politely offers a few reasonable suggestions and the
shields go full up, yes? Remind me to bow down to you if I ever meet you
in person, oh conqueror of Pathfinder T-hunts. (All-night) 

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-04 17:58, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB wrote:

>> Sir,
>> Before you lecture me on etiquette, how to kumbaya, or methods I need to know if you were ever a LA Section OOC? And how many Southern California All-Day, Fullerton, Nohl Ranch, ALL-Night, Pathfinder T-Hunts have you ever won? Do you know who started the Pathfinder T-Hunt or won the WA6FAT OIALT Hunt? Thank you very much. 
>> 
>> Best regards,   
>> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
>> 
>> On Friday, May 4, 2018, 3:20:09 PM EDT, Eric Fort <eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote:  
>> 
>> Maybe the better solution is a bit more neighborly. Get a group of hams together to definitively find the source of the interference and go talk with those who are responsible and be nice about it. Also just because there is a big tower in the same area as the interference does not mean the tower is the source. Correlation does not equal causation. Some other things to consider..... is this broadband noise you describe a constant carrier or does it rise and fall possibly with another source or sources on another frequency or frequencies (which ones)?  Where specifically does the interference come from?  Can and have you triangulated and tracked it down definitely to its source of origin and can you prove the geographic source location with hard data down to a radius of oh at least a couple hundred feet or so?  Most of the people I know that work with radio and communications systems are pretty conscientious about keeping their systems in good working order and fixing things (like
interference) when they know they have a problem. Could it be that no one has alerted the proper responsible parties in a polite and helpful way with hard data to back it up and document the issue as to time, place, and characteristics as documented above?  Also note that if the source *is* found to be something related to emcomm systems they generally have another reason to be nice, helpful, and responsive to hams.  We tend to be their backup when all hell breaks loose. So go get a group of friends together and organize a t-hunt. Once you can define exactly where, when, (and how) the interference occurs, make some polite and inquisitive calls to find the parties responsible and offer to help resolve the issue however you can. The relationships you build through this process will likely be long lasting and have the potential to pay dividends over the long term for the entire amateur community. 
>> 
>> Af6ep 
>> 
>> Sent using SMTP.

From DougPhelps at protonmail.com  Fri May  4 21:22:14 2018
From: DougPhelps at protonmail.com (Doug Phelps)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 17:22:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Share a hotel room for Hamvention?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKPKL-QfNhH62VX9wD79hGpAmJucpK62ftNH59JEL_xL=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKPKL-QfNhH62VX9wD79hGpAmJucpK62ftNH59JEL_xL=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <_S_haPHzbaZG-zp20yyF0FCzQnmti9Xf01lcR8Vr4SmdlBf-h9Lz2M3bF96kuFq4quA-lRLoC_pPmOtjRysatEU8wnQ-Sxpd1e2gXngZhUY=@protonmail.com>

I have a room close to Xenia. It comes with refridgerator and stove. Message me at dougphelps at protonmail.com if interested.

Sent from ProtonMail mobile

-------- Original Message --------
On May 4, 2018, 3:58 PM, John Brier wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> I procrastinated and now hotel rooms are expensive and few and far
> between. I am looking to share a room with someone that already has
> one booked. I will split the cost so that would be good for you. I
> would prefer the hotel AMSAT has a block in but I know beggars can't
> be choosers so I will take what I can get. I will give you a free
> Space Comms t-shirt if you want one too :-)
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From n8fgv at usa.net  Fri May  4 21:55:09 2018
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 17:55:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
Message-ID: <669weDV3J7168Set.1525470909@web01.cms.usa.net>

Why are they only installing the proper RFI suppression methods on the
installations that someone complains about?

They should be putting these RFI suppressors on ALL of their installations.
The cost of the necessary components must be negligible compared to the total
cost of the installation. Is that modern business practice nowadays? 

Dan Schultz N8FGV


>I have an ongoing RFI case with the solar panel manufacturer, Solar 
>Edge. Their field engineer, Tom Simpson, has handled many RFI cases in 
>the past so they are aware of the problem.

>My case is on schedule for repair and Tom assures me that the RFI will 
>be negligible once the proper RFI suppression methods are installed. The 
>RFI emanates from a neighbors solar panel system about 150 feet from my 
>home.


From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Sat May  5 01:14:27 2018
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 19:14:27 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] FJ/N0KV QSOs
Message-ID: <87092bf7-45a4-bf31-37f9-46ddcc25f6a1@coloradosatellite.com>

FJ/N0KV QSOs from St. Barts have been uploaded to LOTW

Jim

@amsat


From k7trkradio at charter.net  Sat May  5 01:26:48 2018
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 18:26:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
In-Reply-To: <bf86cdde96cf00eeda087fa128f02ef4@etczone.com>
References: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311.ref@mail.yahoo.com>	<1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>	<F6C59174-7777-41FF-B5EF-B6B3536F3650@fortconsulting.org>	<122429083.25525.1525471100791@mail.yahoo.com>
	<bf86cdde96cf00eeda087fa128f02ef4@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <001801d3e410$23bc50b0$6b34f210$@charter.net>

Steve, it's an MS-EET thing (look that one up !!)

73, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
skristof at etczone.com
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:52 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs

Wow. A person politely offers a few reasonable suggestions and the
shields go full up, yes? Remind me to bow down to you if I ever meet you
in person, oh conqueror of Pathfinder T-hunts. (All-night) 

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-04 17:58, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB wrote:

>> Sir,
>> Before you lecture me on etiquette, how to kumbaya, or methods I need to
know if you were ever a LA Section OOC? And how many Southern California
All-Day, Fullerton, Nohl Ranch, ALL-Night, Pathfinder T-Hunts have you ever
won? Do you know who started the Pathfinder T-Hunt or won the WA6FAT OIALT
Hunt? Thank you very much. 
>> 
>> Best regards,   
>> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
>> 
>> On Friday, May 4, 2018, 3:20:09 PM EDT, Eric Fort
<eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote:  
>> 
>> Maybe the better solution is a bit more neighborly. Get a group of hams
together to definitively find the source of the interference and go talk
with those who are responsible and be nice about it. Also just because there
is a big tower in the same area as the interference does not mean the tower
is the source. Correlation does not equal causation. Some other things to
consider..... is this broadband noise you describe a constant carrier or
does it rise and fall possibly with another source or sources on another
frequency or frequencies (which ones)?  Where specifically does the
interference come from?  Can and have you triangulated and tracked it down
definitely to its source of origin and can you prove the geographic source
location with hard data down to a radius of oh at least a couple hundred
feet or so?  Most of the people I know that work with radio and
communications systems are pretty conscientious about keeping their systems
in good working order and fixing things (like
interference) when they know they have a problem. Could it be that no one
has alerted the proper responsible parties in a polite and helpful way with
hard data to back it up and document the issue as to time, place, and
characteristics as documented above?  Also note that if the source *is*
found to be something related to emcomm systems they generally have another
reason to be nice, helpful, and responsive to hams.  We tend to be their
backup when all hell breaks loose. So go get a group of friends together and
organize a t-hunt. Once you can define exactly where, when, (and how) the
interference occurs, make some polite and inquisitive calls to find the
parties responsible and offer to help resolve the issue however you can. The
relationships you build through this process will likely be long lasting and
have the potential to pay dividends over the long term for the entire
amateur community. 
>> 
>> Af6ep 
>> 
>> Sent using SMTP.
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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Sat May  5 03:21:39 2018
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 20:21:39 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
In-Reply-To: <001801d3e410$23bc50b0$6b34f210$@charter.net>
References: <1251698144.594271.1525437169311.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1251698144.594271.1525437169311@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F6C59174-7777-41FF-B5EF-B6B3536F3650@fortconsulting.org>
	<122429083.25525.1525471100791@mail.yahoo.com>
	<bf86cdde96cf00eeda087fa128f02ef4@etczone.com>
	<001801d3e410$23bc50b0$6b34f210$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <5891485a-a7e1-4c9f-a49a-2f1d60e5232a@yahoo.com>

I had no idea there was a MS-EET. I still have no idea what it really is other than a technical degree. I certainly appreciate the studies required. What I don't appreciate is the snobbery.

You can tell us how "smart" you are but the real sign of intelligence is mentorship.

Figure it out smartypants.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On May 4, 2018, 19:29, at 19:29, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
>Steve, it's an MS-EET thing (look that one up !!)
>
>73, K7TRK
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
>skristof at etczone.com
>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:52 PM
>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise on band affecting SAT OPs
>
>Wow. A person politely offers a few reasonable suggestions and the
>shields go full up, yes? Remind me to bow down to you if I ever meet
>you
>in person, oh conqueror of Pathfinder T-hunts. (All-night) 
>
>Steve AI9IN
>
>On 2018-05-04 17:58, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
>>> Sir,
>>> Before you lecture me on etiquette, how to kumbaya, or methods I
>need to
>know if you were ever a LA Section OOC? And how many Southern
>California
>All-Day, Fullerton, Nohl Ranch, ALL-Night, Pathfinder T-Hunts have you
>ever
>won? Do you know who started the Pathfinder T-Hunt or won the WA6FAT
>OIALT
>Hunt? Thank you very much. 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,   
>>> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
>>> 
>>> On Friday, May 4, 2018, 3:20:09 PM EDT, Eric Fort
><eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Maybe the better solution is a bit more neighborly. Get a group of
>hams
>together to definitively find the source of the interference and go
>talk
>with those who are responsible and be nice about it. Also just because
>there
>is a big tower in the same area as the interference does not mean the
>tower
>is the source. Correlation does not equal causation. Some other things
>to
>consider..... is this broadband noise you describe a constant carrier
>or
>does it rise and fall possibly with another source or sources on
>another
>frequency or frequencies (which ones)?  Where specifically does the
>interference come from?  Can and have you triangulated and tracked it
>down
>definitely to its source of origin and can you prove the geographic
>source
>location with hard data down to a radius of oh at least a couple
>hundred
>feet or so?  Most of the people I know that work with radio and
>communications systems are pretty conscientious about keeping their
>systems
>in good working order and fixing things (like
>interference) when they know they have a problem. Could it be that no
>one
>has alerted the proper responsible parties in a polite and helpful way
>with
>hard data to back it up and document the issue as to time, place, and
>characteristics as documented above?  Also note that if the source *is*
>found to be something related to emcomm systems they generally have
>another
>reason to be nice, helpful, and responsive to hams.  We tend to be
>their
>backup when all hell breaks loose. So go get a group of friends
>together and
>organize a t-hunt. Once you can define exactly where, when, (and how)
>the
>interference occurs, make some polite and inquisitive calls to find the
>parties responsible and offer to help resolve the issue however you
>can. The
>relationships you build through this process will likely be long
>lasting and
>have the potential to pay dividends over the long term for the entire
>amateur community. 
>>> 
>>> Af6ep 
>>> 
>>> Sent using SMTP.
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of
>AMSAT-NA.
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From les at highnoonfilm.com  Sat May  5 03:34:25 2018
From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 22:34:25 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Adding an SDR for Satellite Operation
Message-ID: <64ABE9CF-1F46-4BD3-B7C9-0EBB4196AE3F@highnoonfilm.com>

I?ve worked just over 100 contracts through LEO Satellites, mostly on my Icom IC-910H using SatPC32. Easy enough, but I?d like to use one of my SDR receivers for the RX side. But I?m not certain how to go about it. 

Can I simply route the RX antenna to the SDR and use the IC-910H for the uplink? How do I get them to track together and compensate for Doppler? Do I need to protect the SDR from the RF levels on the TX side (even though it will be on another band?) 

Searched Google for ?How to? articles, but haven?t found anything very helpful. If someone has a link or just some advice, I?d be most grateful. 

I?ve got an Elad FDM-S2, Airspy, SDRPlay RSP-2, and others to try this with. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. 

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? 



From zryder94 at gmail.com  Sat May  5 04:02:21 2018
From: zryder94 at gmail.com (Mike Thompson)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 23:02:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Adding an SDR for Satellite Operation
In-Reply-To: <64ABE9CF-1F46-4BD3-B7C9-0EBB4196AE3F@highnoonfilm.com>
References: <64ABE9CF-1F46-4BD3-B7C9-0EBB4196AE3F@highnoonfilm.com>
Message-ID: <CAGD5MUFj4PoFuP+6XeiJujeF-R40+F5rw6RGy7kpvNv--SOj9g@mail.gmail.com>

This is how I did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALv2EQ4T8hU

The SDR was on the other side of a duplexer, and that provided a decent bit
of isolation. If one were to have separate antenna's and a duplexer, I
would think that would be sufficient isolation.

SatPC32 talking to HDSDR or SDR# as a 2nd radio.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:34 PM, Les Rayburn <les at highnoonfilm.com> wrote:

> I?ve worked just over 100 contracts through LEO Satellites, mostly on my
> Icom IC-910H using SatPC32. Easy enough, but I?d like to use one of my SDR
> receivers for the RX side. But I?m not certain how to go about it.
>
> Can I simply route the RX antenna to the SDR and use the IC-910H for the
> uplink? How do I get them to track together and compensate for Doppler? Do
> I need to protect the SDR from the RF levels on the TX side (even though it
> will be on another band?)
>
> Searched Google for ?How to? articles, but haven?t found anything very
> helpful. If someone has a link or just some advice, I?d be most grateful.
>
> I?ve got an Elad FDM-S2, Airspy, SDRPlay RSP-2, and others to try this
> with.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
>
> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>
> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon
> TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
> Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop,
> Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
>
> ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song??
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Sat May  5 04:12:01 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 08:12:01 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Adding an SDR for Satellite Operation
In-Reply-To: <CAGD5MUFj4PoFuP+6XeiJujeF-R40+F5rw6RGy7kpvNv--SOj9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64ABE9CF-1F46-4BD3-B7C9-0EBB4196AE3F@highnoonfilm.com>
	<CAGD5MUFj4PoFuP+6XeiJujeF-R40+F5rw6RGy7kpvNv--SOj9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54C98EF5-97AC-4144-95A6-6BA1860DECE3@gmail.com>

Les,

I snd you the diagram of my station directly.

If you use HDSR you may connect directly to SatPC32 through the DDE and just switch antenna to use either the TRX or SDR for Rx at convenience.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On May 5, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Mike Thompson <zryder94 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This is how I did it.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALv2EQ4T8hU
> 
> The SDR was on the other side of a duplexer, and that provided a decent bit
> of isolation. If one were to have separate antenna's and a duplexer, I
> would think that would be sufficient isolation.
> 
> SatPC32 talking to HDSDR or SDR# as a 2nd radio.
> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:34 PM, Les Rayburn <les at highnoonfilm.com> wrote:
> 
>> I?ve worked just over 100 contracts through LEO Satellites, mostly on my
>> Icom IC-910H using SatPC32. Easy enough, but I?d like to use one of my SDR
>> receivers for the RX side. But I?m not certain how to go about it.
>> 
>> Can I simply route the RX antenna to the SDR and use the IC-910H for the
>> uplink? How do I get them to track together and compensate for Doppler? Do
>> I need to protect the SDR from the RF levels on the TX side (even though it
>> will be on another band?)
>> 
>> Searched Google for ?How to? articles, but haven?t found anything very
>> helpful. If someone has a link or just some advice, I?d be most grateful.
>> 
>> I?ve got an Elad FDM-S2, Airspy, SDRPlay RSP-2, and others to try this
>> with.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> EM63nf
>> 
>> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>> 
>> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon
>> TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
>> Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop,
>> Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
>> 
>> ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song??
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
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From uli at df5sf-qrp.de  Sat May  5 09:21:17 2018
From: uli at df5sf-qrp.de (uli at df5sf-qrp.de)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 11:21:17 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8PLuYeyfgghyzXua2SX5Y0cP_iN+RwvUP72F3hoexg9vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d3e3c3$33df33b0$9b9d9b10$@df5sf-qrp.de>
	<CAAJiE8OBCFPn1UtoLf+-GjVs88PC5F=yGS-iesC09TZrQndHOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8PLuYeyfgghyzXua2SX5Y0cP_iN+RwvUP72F3hoexg9vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d3e452$6cbe7a30$463b6e90$@df5sf-qrp.de>

Hello Don,

many thanks for your infos.
If I understand aright I have to change the TX frequency for AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 because of Doppler shift.
See https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/FoxOperatingGuide_2018_Lo.pdf
Opposite is SO-50. There I have to change the RX-frequency.
See http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-20131010.pdf

Antenna is ready. Now I wait for a good satellite pass.

73
Uli
DF5SF

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Don KB2YSI [mailto:kb2ysi at gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 22:53
An: uli at df5sf-qrp.de
Cc: AMSAT BB
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie

Just ran across this handy guide from K6LCS's site, www.work-stat.com:
 http://www.work-sat.com/Home_files/FM-VOICE-SATS-1Q-2018b.pdf  Sadly
AO-85 is not on the sheet, but it should not be hard to figure out what to use following the same for the other Fox birds (AO-##'s).

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are the FM birds base frequencies:
>
> AO-85 (Fox-1A) 435.170 MHz 145.980 MHz Operational
> AO-91 (RadFxSat / Fox-1B) 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Operational
> AO-92 (Fox-1D) 435.350 MHz & 1267.359 MHz* 145.880 MHz Operational
> ______* Switchable by command station. Not operational simultaneously.
>
> SO-50 145.850 MHz 436.795 MHz Operational
>
> Source: https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
>
>
>
>
> Page 2 has the layout of how to program the 70cm band, it is the same 
> steps for SO-50 just on RX not TX:
> https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/FoxOperatin
> gGuide_2018_Lo.pdf
>
>
> This PDF has the SO-50 memory settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats
> -20131010.pdf
>
>
>
> Found most of these on: 
> https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/
>
> I hope these help.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:16 PM,  <uli at df5sf-qrp.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an HT Kenwood TH-7 and now building a 4 element duoband LPDA 
>> for satellite operation.
>>
>> I found a lot of helpful information in the internet. Some infos are 
>> in conflict with other.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are this infos ok ?
>>
>>
>>
>> SO50:
>>
>> Transmit 145.850 MHz fix  FM 67.0 Hz,  RX from 436.815 MHz to 436.795 
>> MHz
>>
>>
>>
>> AO91:
>>
>> Transmit from 435.240 MHz to 435,260 MHz FM 67.0Hz , RX 145.960 MHz 
>> fix
>>
>>
>>
>> AO85:
>>
>> Transmit from 435.160 MHz to 435.180 MHz  FM 67.0 Hz ,  RX 145.980 
>> MHz fix
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> DF5SF
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>
> --
> 73, Don KB2YSI
> https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi



--
73, Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi


From w2dsx at optonline.net  Sat May  5 11:14:07 2018
From: w2dsx at optonline.net (Jim Minor)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 07:14:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The end of daytime HF?
In-Reply-To: <669weDV3J7168Set.1525470909@web01.cms.usa.net>
References: <669weDV3J7168Set.1525470909@web01.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <b06b7328-3acc-6a65-07ba-77c59da2b932@optonline.net>

On 5/4/2018 5:55 PM, Daniel Schultz wrote:
> Why are they only installing the proper RFI suppression methods on the
> installations that someone complains about?
>
> They should be putting these RFI suppressors on ALL of their installations.
> The cost of the necessary components must be negligible compared to the total
> cost of the installation. Is that modern business practice nowadays?
>
> Dan Schultz N8FGV
>
>
<< rest snipped for brevity >>

Unfortunately, yes.? It's a big problem by me, using cheap materials 
from China where lip service is paid to our Codes and standards in order 
to carve out a profit margin without regard to the consequences.? Often 
materials purchased for electrical work at the big box stores had 
supplies where the UL stamp was just a mark without the devices actually 
meeting the standards, and now they don't even do that.? So, after the 
Home Depots et al have put many of the niche electrical suppliers out of 
business, now there's very few stores to turn too to get the good stuff 
anymore.

I had no idea how bad the solar panel QRM was by me until we had a 
hurricane knock out the local power grid for a day or so.? I was 
delighting in the absolute quiet the blackout brought until we had dawn 
and then the noise started.? It's really bad by me on Long Island, NY 
and the #1 source of cold callers are solar suppliers taking advantage 
of people who don't care what goes up on their roof.? The biggest topic 
at the clubs by me and the SDR groups I follow is noise mitigation, and 
how we're looking for different ways to handle ever increasing levels of 
QRM.? It certainly is a big deal for those of us seeking to get on 630 
meters and lower.

I wish to thank Bob WB4APR for bringing this up, it certainly is 
something to rally the troops over, especially with the current attitude 
at the FCC.

73, Jim w2dsx

From ik8xld at gmail.com  Sat May  5 12:47:50 2018
From: ik8xld at gmail.com (Rocco Labella)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 14:47:50 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE Analyser
Message-ID: <CAHSDi3Bi0Y9EZ0JxvSycLBt4tVEP3_8EPO7ura7BEGLw7csSHw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
I'm looking for TLE ANALYSER ver. 2.12 .
There are many references to this version on the web, but no download link.
if you know where I can find it, just let me know.
TNX.

Rocco Labella
IK8XLD

From maccody at att.net  Sat May  5 15:29:38 2018
From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 10:29:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE Analyser
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Rocco,

A quick Google searched turned up this SourceForge project webpage:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tleanalyser/

Hope this helps.

73,

Mac Cody / AE5PH

On 05/05/2018 07:47 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I'm looking for TLE ANALYSER ver. 2.12 .
> There are many references to this version on the web, but no download link.
> if you know where I can find it, just let me know.
> TNX.
>
> Rocco Labella
> IK8XLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From ik8xld at gmail.com  Sat May  5 15:44:19 2018
From: ik8xld at gmail.com (Rocco Labella)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 17:44:19 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE Analyser
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	<4d6935b1-1898-3421-addf-0f93058ce3ae@att.net>
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Hi Cody
Try to download it and you will see that there are no files.


2018-05-05 17:29 GMT+02:00 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net>:

> Rocco,
>
> A quick Google searched turned up this SourceForge project webpage:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tleanalyser/
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> 73,
>
> Mac Cody / AE5PH
>
>
> On 05/05/2018 07:47 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I'm looking for TLE ANALYSER ver. 2.12 .
>> There are many references to this version on the web, but no download
>> link.
>> if you know where I can find it, just let me know.
>> TNX.
>>
>> Rocco Labella
>> IK8XLD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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From rjlawn at gmail.com  Sat May  5 17:16:44 2018
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 13:16:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotor Alignment Problem
Message-ID: <CADQmrTEDVh+1=YbAvssaNhE8OBWORqd9E0B9jZxiY1h-+NzbiA@mail.gmail.com>

I finally got up and running with a new G-5500. In running SuM from the
SatPC32 applications and then verifying the problem by tracking a satellite
I find that the AZ rotor is going to the wrong position every time. It
seems to be about 245 degrees off. I've verified that things are wired
correctly and CCW and CW are correct. What am I doing wrong? The old G5400B
worked fine.

Rick, W2JAZ

From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Sat May  5 17:21:24 2018
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 17:21:24 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotor Alignment Problem
In-Reply-To: <CADQmrTEDVh+1=YbAvssaNhE8OBWORqd9E0B9jZxiY1h-+NzbiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTEDVh+1=YbAvssaNhE8OBWORqd9E0B9jZxiY1h-+NzbiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FfhxreKC1jQojzuB4CsqLeCJcSr8KdUBz59Dt9sR3bUjg@mail.gmail.com>

Does your rotor interface need to be recalibrated?

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S7

On Sat, May 5, 2018, 1:17 PM Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I finally got up and running with a new G-5500. In running SuM from the
> SatPC32 applications and then verifying the problem by tracking a satellite
> I find that the AZ rotor is going to the wrong position every time. It
> seems to be about 245 degrees off. I've verified that things are wired
> correctly and CCW and CW are correct. What am I doing wrong? The old G5400B
> worked fine.
>
> Rick, W2JAZ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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From rjlawn at gmail.com  Sat May  5 19:46:47 2018
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 15:46:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Problem
Message-ID: <CADQmrTHrMxqcjwHLrCgJS5PhQ5=K===ifwnGWQucovD9Np6QnQ@mail.gmail.com>

The simple fix turned out to be a jumper on the controller interface that
was set to my old G5400B rotor system. This jumper has to be removed for
use with the 5500.

Thanks to everyone's input!
73
Rick, W2JAZ

From maccody at att.net  Sat May  5 19:57:07 2018
From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 14:57:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE Analyser
In-Reply-To: <CAHSDi3AVmSWbatkLmdE1KFQpvi-Fc0z73WNk+V=_hjHrpbpHUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHSDi3Bi0Y9EZ0JxvSycLBt4tVEP3_8EPO7ura7BEGLw7csSHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4d6935b1-1898-3421-addf-0f93058ce3ae@att.net>
	<CAHSDi3AVmSWbatkLmdE1KFQpvi-Fc0z73WNk+V=_hjHrpbpHUw@mail.gmail.com>
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Rocco,

Sorry about that.? A lot of the links that I found were for sites like
CNET, which I consider a bit suspect.? I thought that the SourceForge
site might be a bit more trustworthy.? Looks like the author may have
decided to make the program unavailable, which is quite unusual.

73,

Mac / AE5PH

On 05/05/2018 10:44 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
> Hi Cody
> Try to download it and you will see that there are no files.
>
>
> 2018-05-05 17:29 GMT+02:00 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net 
> <mailto:maccody at att.net>>:
>
>     Rocco,
>
>     A quick Google searched turned up this SourceForge project webpage:
>     https://sourceforge.net/projects/tleanalyser/
>     <https://sourceforge.net/projects/tleanalyser/>
>
>     Hope this helps.
>
>     73,
>
>     Mac Cody / AE5PH
>
>
>     On 05/05/2018 07:47 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
>
>         Hi everyone,
>         I'm looking for TLE ANALYSER ver. 2.12 .
>         There are many references to this version on the web, but no
>         download link.
>         if you know where I can find it, just let me know.
>         TNX.
>
>         Rocco Labella
>         IK8XLD
>         _______________________________________________
>         Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>.
>         AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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>         satellite program!
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>
>
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From ik8xld at gmail.com  Sat May  5 20:13:59 2018
From: ik8xld at gmail.com (Rocco Labella)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 20:13:59 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE Analyser
In-Reply-To: <d27b30e4-594c-2dcb-b477-c83cbc9af8bc@att.net>
References: <CAHSDi3Bi0Y9EZ0JxvSycLBt4tVEP3_8EPO7ura7BEGLw7csSHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4d6935b1-1898-3421-addf-0f93058ce3ae@att.net>
	<CAHSDi3AVmSWbatkLmdE1KFQpvi-Fc0z73WNk+V=_hjHrpbpHUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<d27b30e4-594c-2dcb-b477-c83cbc9af8bc@att.net>
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No problem Cody,
just found thanks to the precious help of this mail list, which is a mine
of information.

thank you all

73 Rocco
IK8XLD


Il sab 5 mag 2018, 21:57 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net> ha scritto:

> Rocco,
>
> Sorry about that.  A lot of the links that I found were for sites like
> CNET, which I consider a bit suspect.  I thought that the SourceForge
> site might be a bit more trustworthy.  Looks like the author may have
> decided to make the program unavailable, which is quite unusual.
>
> 73,
>
> Mac / AE5PH
>
> On 05/05/2018 10:44 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
>
> Hi Cody
> Try to download it and you will see that there are no files.
>
>
> 2018-05-05 17:29 GMT+02:00 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net>:
>
>> Rocco,
>>
>> A quick Google searched turned up this SourceForge project webpage:
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tleanalyser/
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mac Cody / AE5PH
>>
>>
>> On 05/05/2018 07:47 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I'm looking for TLE ANALYSER ver. 2.12 .
>>> There are many references to this version on the web, but no download
>>> link.
>>> if you know where I can find it, just let me know.
>>> TNX.
>>>
>>> Rocco Labella
>>> IK8XLD
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>
>
>

From pconver at gmail.com  Sat May  5 20:59:21 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 17:59:21 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE Analyser
In-Reply-To: <CAHSDi3CbvQ-555P8KSLAAjKomq-pxaoZ+hXx0v8FsVKy1VmU0w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4d6935b1-1898-3421-addf-0f93058ce3ae@att.net>
	<CAHSDi3AVmSWbatkLmdE1KFQpvi-Fc0z73WNk+V=_hjHrpbpHUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<d27b30e4-594c-2dcb-b477-c83cbc9af8bc@att.net>
	<CAHSDi3CbvQ-555P8KSLAAjKomq-pxaoZ+hXx0v8FsVKy1VmU0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKmwWz7iRCa1g=mtFLwfh_H-ix9pn3NtNZTWjuOhmBtTFg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Rocco,

You can found frequently update keps at http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt

If you have new TLEs set you want try, input them on
http://amsat.org.ar/pass selecting +/- Sats, they will be formatted and
checksum fixed, showing track & orbit results.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Rocco Labella <ik8xld at gmail.com> wrote:

> No problem Cody,
> just found thanks to the precious help of this mail list, which is a mine
> of information.
>
> thank you all
>
> 73 Rocco
> IK8XLD
>
>
> Il sab 5 mag 2018, 21:57 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net> ha scritto:
>
> > Rocco,
> >
> > Sorry about that.  A lot of the links that I found were for sites like
> > CNET, which I consider a bit suspect.  I thought that the SourceForge
> > site might be a bit more trustworthy.  Looks like the author may have
> > decided to make the program unavailable, which is quite unusual.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mac / AE5PH
> >
> > On 05/05/2018 10:44 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cody
> > Try to download it and you will see that there are no files.
> >
> >
> > 2018-05-05 17:29 GMT+02:00 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net>:
> >
> >> Rocco,
> >>
> >> A quick Google searched turned up this SourceForge project webpage:
> >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tleanalyser/
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Mac Cody / AE5PH
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05/05/2018 07:47 AM, Rocco Labella wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>> I'm looking for TLE ANALYSER ver. 2.12 .
> >>> There are many references to this version on the web, but no download
> >>> link.
> >>> if you know where I can find it, just let me know.
> >>> TNX.
> >>>
> >>> Rocco Labella
> >>> IK8XLD
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From nm3a at mail.com  Sat May  5 22:11:09 2018
From: nm3a at mail.com (Mail)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 18:11:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar RFI
Message-ID: <8039638A-0DD1-4181-ACDC-417C572BEF79@mail.com>

It?s standard business practice, and not new. For a long time, maybe still, Ford had a known RFI problem with fuel pump. They elected to only fix it if someone complained AND had the Ford service bulletin in their hand! 

Dan

Sent from here. NM3A

> On May 4, 2018, at 17:55, Daniel Schultz <n8fgv at usa.net> wrote:
> 
> Why are they only installing the proper RFI suppression methods on the
> installations that someone complains about?
> 
> They should be putting these RFI suppressors on ALL of their installations.
> The cost of the necessary components must be negligible compared to the total
> cost of the installation. Is that modern business practice nowadays? 
> 
> Dan Schultz N8FGV
> 
> 
>> I have an ongoing RFI case with the solar panel manufacturer, Solar 
>> Edge. Their field engineer, Tom Simpson, has handled many RFI cases in 
>> the past so they are aware of the problem.
> 
>> My case is on schedule for repair and Tom assures me that the RFI will 
>> be negligible once the proper RFI suppression methods are installed. The 
>> RFI emanates from a neighbors solar panel system about 150 feet from my 
>> home.
> 
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From jhill_81 at yahoo.com  Sun May  6 02:47:05 2018
From: jhill_81 at yahoo.com (Mr B r a d)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 02:47:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13,
	Issue 153 Solar Power Ham vs rfi
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5517.1525467487.5767.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.5517.1525467487.5767.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2101536617.281695.1525574825048@mail.yahoo.com>

good answers in this digest to FM voice sats frequencies ... perhaps someone could add to the wiki page ( the wiki was also a great idea :)
regarding the RFI at '1/4mile either side of the I-271 & I-480/Hwy-422 intersection' ?perhaps worth noting that tiny transmittersin the tires of cars sometimes use uhf band to talk to the cars computer , monitoring the air in the tire... you would think wewould see problems from this RF hash on busy roads...?Also many times our receivers go nuts due to out of band signals that only ?appear to be onthe ham channels but are not....?best check it with more than one type of radio ...( more than one range of 'I.F.' intermediate frequency chain in the receiver ) ?pics of the spectrum from a service monitor or SDR make the complaint more legit.good luck , I hear only about ?36 outside employees at the FCC now that deregulation afflicts this countryand I think the NAB want them all working the tiny FM pirate broadcasters ...?and with the two major radio station cluster ownersin bankruptcy are Iheart-radio and cumulus-media unfit to be license holders?? I think so !
regarding the solar power , I read the write up in qst?( tony-Brock Fishers April 2016 QST article "Can Home Solar Power and?Amateur Radio Coexist?? )and used the good ?info on fair-rite cores and broadband AC line filters ( great ideas )http://valleymedia.org/satchat/k1kp-416-34-35.JPG
?but I ?disagree withthe information about using inverters on each panel ( who would want electronics on the hot roof ?)
I would avoid the inverter panels ( should be banned ) ?, I dont want any switching power supply near my house..

When installing the 7kw system on my house.
7 companies come out and bid until i found a very local company who was willing to listen and work with me on the installand use the inverter brand recommended by the few hams i was able to get feedback from , this was a 'SunnyBoy' ( from Germany ?)we put the 7.1 kw inverter INSIDE the garage with a metal 'raceway 'box to hold the fair-rite cores ( type 31,43 and lots of cheap 75's )?http://valleymedia.org/satchat/choke-cores-ham-solor-house-_resized.jpg
?, a 100 amp broadband filter ( ebay $200 ) between the inverter output and the grid ,http://valleymedia.org/satchat/solar-inverter-rfi-choker-.jpg
?cores on all the meter and switch boxes.had them use real metal conduit for most of the runs...that was maybe a extra $300... this should be a rule of law.....
one more tip local code required a DC disconnect switch be close to it , or if its to far ( like 15 feet ) from the meter box you have to use a remote?DC disconnect switch....?http://valleymedia.org/satchat/sunnyboy-remote-dc-disconnect-.jpg
more electronics on the roof ( more fair rite cores needed )?
and went with ?two strings of DC ONLY solar panels ?13 in each string ( had to stay below the 600v wire limit?and put type-'75' cores all along the DC lines on the roof to break up the long 'return' wire run.?( directly under my 115ft wire Vee-beam )?I run 400w on HF and work all bands to 1296 , no noise from the inverterand no problems from my RF into the ?inverter .. ( cant say the same for the hot tub )some pics on my qrz.com page..one selling point on the sunny boy is ?a extra AC output you can get 1500 watts of power from the suneven if the power company grid is down.... its called the SPP outlet...?
so many of the install by ( the big guy ) solar city are very poor , under tree's and some on the north side of the roof...?pick your contractor carefully and your parts even more so ,?another tip , mount the panels at the best slope/tilt to max the yearly output not to match the slope of the roof...?I lost like 10% on that.
can solar power work , heck yea... I have not got a real power bill since the install , system cost was ~ $3.40 a wattand I got a 30% tax credit this year from last years INVESTMENT in my home. a 100% refund of my FED tax for 2017.the power meter plays back and forth but never past the reading on the date of install...Ko6kL






?



From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 03:12:28 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 23:12:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Mooreland Heights Elementary,
	Knoxville, TN
Message-ID: <EB71DE92C6CC428D9AA6684EA9200404@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN on 07 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 13:54 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and WA4SXM/N4CFB. The contact should be audible over the U.S. State of Tennessee and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. The school is planning to live stream the event at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLIg4Wr1oMykYhCMyBvVNMg .

 

 

 

Mooreland Heights Elementary is a K-5, Title I school in Knoxville, TN.  Located in the South Knoxville area, the student body is made up of approximately 325 students, 18 classroom teachers, 5 special area teachers, and 6 teaching assistants.  All students receive classes in technology, visual art, music, physical education, and library studies.  

 

Mooreland Heights' motto is "Every Child Counts, Every Moment Matters."  The school is dedicated to meeting the needs of all students and providing them with high quality instruction that focuses on collaboration, creativity, critical thinking, and communication.  We strive to provide our students with opportunities that will help them grow both academically and socially.   

 

There are many unique, wonderful opportunities available to the students at Mooreland Heights that are essential to our mission and goals.  We are a 1:1 school where each child has access to their own iPad.  We utilize technology to increase academic rigor, streamline student creations, and set out students up to become successful lifelong learners.  In addition to the emphasis on technology, we are also dedicated to being an arts integrated school.  We provide our students with extra arts opportunities in a variety of ways to help build creativity and critical thinking skills.

 

Mooreland Heights is a wonderful school with an amazing group of students, teachers, and parents.  Together we work hard to provide the best possible education for our students!

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. What do you eat on the ISS and how do you eat it?

2. When you are upside down, how do you not feel it?

3. What experiments are you doing in space?

4. How long does it take to get used to and recover from microgravity?

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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun May  6 04:00:59 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 00:00:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Digest, V13-153 Solar Power Ham vs rfi (tilt angles)
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLaknqAQTcGTYzsPdGBizLPUt1tcqtrAm8TgOcVbd_uLA@mail.gmail.com>

Good info on the string inverters, but I have to respectfully disagree on
one small item:
> mount the panels at the best slope/tilt to max the yearly output
> not to match the slope of the roof... I lost like 10% on that.

We did a study and the ideal angle here in Maryland is 40 degrees tilt.
But we analyzed every other angle from 20 up to 50 and the annual total
energy difference from 25 degrees to 50 degrees was only a 1% difference.
Yes, the lower angle is worse output in the winter, but is better in the
summer when the days are twice as long and so these things average out.  Do
not go below 15 degree angle or they don't get washed off in the rain and
snow wont slide off.  Anyone can prove this to themselves by using the
PVWATTS on line calculator and just change the angle and see the total
annual output change... not so much...

Thats why alomst all panels these days are just mounted right on the roof,
no matter the angle.  The structure to optimize the angle will cost more
than the 1% gain....  Bob, WB4aPR

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 10:47 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> wrote:

> good answers in this digest to FM voice sats frequencies ... perhaps
> someone could add to the wiki page ( the wiki was also a great idea :)
> regarding the RFI at '1/4mile either side of the I-271 & I-480/Hwy-422
> intersection'  perhaps worth noting that tiny transmittersin the tires of
> cars sometimes use uhf band to talk to the cars computer , monitoring the
> air in the tire... you would think wewould see problems from this RF hash
> on busy roads... Also many times our receivers go nuts due to out of band
> signals that only  appear to be onthe ham channels but are not.... best
> check it with more than one type of radio ...( more than one range of
> 'I.F.' intermediate frequency chain in the receiver )  pics of the spectrum
> from a service monitor or SDR make the complaint more legit.good luck , I
> hear only about  36 outside employees at the FCC now that deregulation
> afflicts this countryand I think the NAB want them all working the tiny FM
> pirate broadcasters ... and with the two major radio station cluster
> ownersin bankruptcy are Iheart-radio and cumulus-media unfit to be license
> holders?? I think so !
> regarding the solar power , I read the write up in qst ( tony-Brock
> Fishers April 2016 QST article "Can Home Solar Power and Amateur Radio
> Coexist?? )and used the good  info on fair-rite cores and broadband AC line
> filters ( great ideas )http://valleymedia.org/satchat/k1kp-416-34-35.JPG
>  but I  disagree withthe information about using inverters on each panel (
> who would want electronics on the hot roof ?)
> I would avoid the inverter panels ( should be banned )  , I dont want any
> switching power supply near my house..
>
> When installing the 7kw system on my house.
> 7 companies come out and bid until i found a very local company who was
> willing to listen and work with me on the installand use the inverter brand
> recommended by the few hams i was able to get feedback from , this was a
> 'SunnyBoy' ( from Germany  )we put the 7.1 kw inverter INSIDE the garage
> with a metal 'raceway 'box to hold the fair-rite cores ( type 31,43 and
> lots of cheap 75's ) http://valleymedia.org/satchat/choke-cores-ham-solor-
> house-_resized.jpg
>  , a 100 amp broadband filter ( ebay $200 ) between the inverter output
> and the grid ,http://valleymedia.org/satchat/solar-inverter-rfi-
> choker-.jpg
>  cores on all the meter and switch boxes.had them use real metal conduit
> for most of the runs...that was maybe a extra $300... this should be a rule
> of law.....
> one more tip local code required a DC disconnect switch be close to it ,
> or if its to far ( like 15 feet ) from the meter box you have to use a
> remote DC disconnect switch.... http://valleymedia.
> org/satchat/sunnyboy-remote-dc-disconnect-.jpg
> more electronics on the roof ( more fair rite cores needed )
> and went with  two strings of DC ONLY solar panels  13 in each string (
> had to stay below the 600v wire limit and put type-'75' cores all along the
> DC lines on the roof to break up the long 'return' wire run. ( directly
> under my 115ft wire Vee-beam ) I run 400w on HF and work all bands to 1296
> , no noise from the inverterand no problems from my RF into the  inverter
> .. ( cant say the same for the hot tub )some pics on my qrz.com page..one
> selling point on the sunny boy is  a extra AC output you can get 1500 watts
> of power from the suneven if the power company grid is down.... its called
> the SPP outlet...
> so many of the install by ( the big guy ) solar city are very poor , under
> tree's and some on the north side of the roof... pick your contractor
> carefully and your parts even more so , another tip , mount the panels at
> the best slope/tilt to max the yearly output not to match the slope of the
> roof... I lost like 10% on that.
> can solar power work , heck yea... I have not got a real power bill since
> the install , system cost was ~ $3.40 a wattand I got a 30% tax credit this
> year from last years INVESTMENT in my home. a 100% refund of my FED tax for
> 2017.the power meter plays back and forth but never past the reading on the
> date of install...Ko6kL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From devin at thecabal.org  Sun May  6 07:55:17 2018
From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 07:55:17 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats with Baofeng HTs -- tone QC
Message-ID: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>

All,

I've been working like a dog trying to get to the stage where I can hear myself on the FM sats and I am having no luck.

I have an Elk log periodic dual-band antenna, a duplexer, and two Baofeng UV5R radios. I think I've programmed the sat channels with the correct tones, but I've done all of my programming on these radios in CHIRP and I'm wondering if I'm doing it wrong somehow, since all my previous programming for tones was for repeaters - and CHIRP does that for me via RepeaterBook.

Does anyone who uses a Baofeng to transmit to FM sats have a sample line from a CHIRP file they could share so I can double-check my settings?

If my settings are right...is there an easy method to determine if my radios are actually sending out the correct tones?

Otherwise, I'm starting to think I bought a bum duplexer. I've verified the duplexer works on UHF against a local repeater.

Thanks for any ideas,

--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email: devin at thecabal.org<mailto:devin at thecabal.org>
web: Devin on Earth<http://www.devinonearth.com/>
cell: +1 425.239.2575


From pedro at dutrasousa.name  Sun May  6 09:52:29 2018
From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (Pedro Dutra Sousa)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:52:29 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats with Baofeng HTs -- tone QC
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CE89AEED-3084-4791-8339-D0D05FC87A90@dutrasousa.name>

Hi,

Here you go.
http://plus2.dutrasousa.name/AMSAT_Baofeng_UV-5R_20180314.zip

73 Pedro CU2ZG 


Sent from my iPhone
Please excuse any typos or briefness

> On 6 May 2018, at 07:55, Devin L. Ganger <devin at thecabal.org> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I've been working like a dog trying to get to the stage where I can hear myself on the FM sats and I am having no luck.
> 
> I have an Elk log periodic dual-band antenna, a duplexer, and two Baofeng UV5R radios. I think I've programmed the sat channels with the correct tones, but I've done all of my programming on these radios in CHIRP and I'm wondering if I'm doing it wrong somehow, since all my previous programming for tones was for repeaters - and CHIRP does that for me via RepeaterBook.
> 
> Does anyone who uses a Baofeng to transmit to FM sats have a sample line from a CHIRP file they could share so I can double-check my settings?
> 
> If my settings are right...is there an easy method to determine if my radios are actually sending out the correct tones?
> 
> Otherwise, I'm starting to think I bought a bum duplexer. I've verified the duplexer works on UHF against a local repeater.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas,
> 
> --
> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> email: devin at thecabal.org<mailto:devin at thecabal.org>
> web: Devin on Earth<http://www.devinonearth.com/>
> cell: +1 425.239.2575
> 
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From stansberrymj at gmail.com  Sun May  6 00:19:07 2018
From: stansberrymj at gmail.com (Mike Stansberry)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 18:19:07 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1990 version of ARRL's Satellite Experimenter's, Handbook,
	by K2UBC
Message-ID: <50a370ce-2a16-b17a-21d3-84963837db49@gmail.com>

re:
I was looking through my ham radio bookshelves (yes, plural!) a few weeks

ago, and I had nearly forgotten that I had this book...so I've been
re-reading it. (No, I'm not interested in selling it.... <grin>)

The history alone - details about the birds up to and including AO-13 -
makes for fascinating reading, never mind the  technical details for
orbital considerations, tracking, and building satellites. Remember that
this when AO-13 was only 2 years old, AO-7 hadn't been heard from in a few
years, and FM birds were only a twinkle in some engineer's eye.

If you can find this book, I highly recommend that you borrow/buy it -
quite interesting to read what was going on in the satellite world 28 years
ago!  (I bought it in late 92/early 93 to read on the plane trip to VP2M
for an AO-13 DXpedition.)
  
Philip N4HF

<My comments>

Thanks for the info.  I have a 1985 version of that book.  I guess I'll
re-read it as well, just for the history as you state.  Might give me some
ideas about a 1.2 GHz circular polarized antenna as well.

73, Mike, K0TER


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Sun May  6 12:12:11 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 07:12:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1990 version of ARRL's Satellite Experimenter's
	Handbook, by K2UBC
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20180502143017.00c5e940@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <CAGdEbNaooVgr_HX3kVsFq62br4SiTkGA3ytZ0pA7=f70xeoTjw@mail.g	mail.com>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180502143017.00c5e940@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001d3e533$76a11f80$63e35e80$@gmail.com>

I have a copy of the second edition, first printing.  A great resource.  Not
quite mint, but nearly so.  It isn't for sale, but will probably be a prize
at the 2018 AMSAT Symposium dinner.  

73,

Alan
WA4SCA




From burns at fisher.cc  Sun May  6 13:27:41 2018
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:27:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats with Baofeng HTs -- tone QC
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxXoXLYaRbS4V4KfmPngrp14PY=OxD7UZ2E9zh=UK8m5dg@mail.gmail.com>

Devin,

You did not say whether you can hear others on the FM satellites.  If you
can, here is one way to help figure out if your issue is tone.  On AO-85,
91, and 92 best practice is to use a 67Hz tone, but in reality, as long as
you can hear others, you don't need a tone.  The tone prevents the repeater
from timing out after a couple minutes, but in the meantime, it will still
repeat you without a tone.  So if you can NOT hear yourself, but can hear
others, tone is likely not the problem (on these specific birds--I don't
know about SO-50).

73,

Burns WB1FJ
(who wrote the code on the satellites that picks out the tone!)

From Bennett.Norell at optimum.net  Sun May  6 13:18:24 2018
From: Bennett.Norell at optimum.net (Bennett Norell)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:18:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale: Yaesu FT-847 Earth Station
Message-ID: <003e01d3e53c$b7115040$2533f0c0$@optimum.net>

Yaesu FT-847 earth station, with hand mic, matching Yaesu FC-20 auto tuner,
and Yaesu MD-100 desk mic. The FT-847 is a HF (10-160m),2m and 70cm
SSB/AM/FM/CW radio, 100w SSB/CW/FM on 6-160 plus 50w on 2m and 440. AM mode:
Max 25w AM 6-160m, 12.5w on 2m/70cm. Regular and satellite modes. Excellent
physical and working condition. FT-847 with hand mic , original manual and
power cord, $725. Next, Yaesu FC-20 auto tuner for FT-847 with connecting
cable, works from 6m through 160m, $75. Yaesu MD-100 is in good shape and
works (mount for the mic had cracked and been glued back together- not bad
looking).$75. 
All items sold as-is due to parts swappers, but can demo if local pickup NNJ
07082 Extra actual cost to ship/insure. Accept USPS money order, bank check
or Paypal (with added fee).


From Bennett.Norell at optimum.net  Sun May  6 13:21:41 2018
From: Bennett.Norell at optimum.net (Bennett Norell)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:21:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale: Icom IC-910H 2m/70cm radio
Message-ID: <005801d3e53d$2c694aa0$853bdfe0$@optimum.net>

FS: Icom IC-910H Hi Power 2m, 440 transceiver, FM/SSB/CW modes. Includes one
UT-106 DSP module. Excellent condition, original owner, non-smoke home. Nice
big display. Spec at 100W 2m and 75w 440, Satellite modes. Full duplex.
Comes with Icom HS-15SB boom microphone, DC power cord, original manual,
original box. Works as it should. Sold as-is due to parts swappers, but can
demo if local pickup (NNJ 07082). Asking $850, Shipped CONUS, extra
elsewhere.


From Bennett.Norell at optimum.net  Sun May  6 13:19:58 2018
From: Bennett.Norell at optimum.net (Bennett Norell)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:19:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 HF/VHF/UHF radio
Message-ID: <004b01d3e53c$ef02c150$cd0843f0$@optimum.net>

FS: From an estate: Kenwood TS-2000 100W HF/6/2, 50w/440 on SSB/CW/FM. AM
also available. Fine working condition and looks good. From smoking home,
and has lingering smoke smell. Main and sub receivers, and full duplex and
satellite modes available. Great all-around do everything radio. Comes with
hand mic, DC power cord, manual, inner and outer original boxes. $700 local
pickup (NNJ 07082), or shipping extra. Sold as-is due to parts swappers, but
can demo if picked up.


From pconver at gmail.com  Sun May  6 15:27:54 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 12:27:54 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sats with Baofeng HTs -- tone QC
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <BN6PR01MB2626E13C50132632C78719AFCA840@BN6PR01MB2626.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=pTC=sAxrwizBu-Pe4gjkQ3mD8fg+COhUUDE3_01sUGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Devin,

Perhaps you can double check your UV-5R programmed channels using
http://lu7aa.org/upload/PROGRAMAS/UV_5R_VIP.exe , it is more user friendly
than Chirp.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:55 AM, Devin L. Ganger <devin at thecabal.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> I've been working like a dog trying to get to the stage where I can hear
> myself on the FM sats and I am having no luck.
>
> I have an Elk log periodic dual-band antenna, a duplexer, and two Baofeng
> UV5R radios. I think I've programmed the sat channels with the correct
> tones, but I've done all of my programming on these radios in CHIRP and I'm
> wondering if I'm doing it wrong somehow, since all my previous programming
> for tones was for repeaters - and CHIRP does that for me via RepeaterBook.
>
> Does anyone who uses a Baofeng to transmit to FM sats have a sample line
> from a CHIRP file they could share so I can double-check my settings?
>
> If my settings are right...is there an easy method to determine if my
> radios are actually sending out the correct tones?
>
> Otherwise, I'm starting to think I bought a bum duplexer. I've verified
> the duplexer works on UHF against a local repeater.
>
> Thanks for any ideas,
>
> --
> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> email: devin at thecabal.org<mailto:devin at thecabal.org>
> web: Devin on Earth<http://www.devinonearth.com/>
> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From vimone at alice.it  Sun May  6 18:01:32 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 20:01:32 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPYsMnv1Q21FumJeGimipyYBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hi Folks,


Today I got the brilliant idea of ??wanting to receive the packet with my Kenwood TS-2000X with its internal TNC while the SatPC 

program was loaded but I noticed that launching the terminal program I had the error of the behavior in when already in use. 

Now my question is: is there anyone with the same configuration as I was able to receive and decode the packet while using

the SatPc program?

 What if you want to interact with the ISS while it is in packet mode?
Any help will be really appreciated

 

 

 

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From vimone at alice.it  Sun May  6 18:11:55 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 20:11:55 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAFR4nh9ZIChOtSvd9tTryx0BAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hi Folks,


Today I got the brilliant idea of ??wanting to receive the packet with my Kenwood TS-2000X with its internal TNC while the SatPC 

program was loaded but I noticed that launching the terminal program I had the COM port error of the when already in use. 

Now my question is: is there anyone with the same configuration as I was able to receive and decode the packet while using

the SatPc program?

What if you want to interact with the ISS while it is in packet mode?

Any help will be really appreciated

 

 

73's de Enzo IK8OZV

EasyLog 5 BetaTester

EasyLog PDA BetaTester

WinBollet BetaTester

D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania

Skype: ik8ozv8520

 

 

 

 

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From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Sun May  6 20:31:00 2018
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 22:31:00 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPYsMnv1Q21FumJeGimipyYBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPYsMnv1Q21FumJeGimipyYBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
Message-ID: <fe462c8c-62cb-aa93-e1f0-8351395d0daf@t-online.de>

Hello Vincent,
the problem you have with the internal TNC of the TS-2000 has nothing to 
do with SatPC32. When the 9k6 Pacsats UO-22, KO-23 and KO-25 were 
operational (about 15 years ago) my friend Guenther, DL9BU, and I worked 
these sats using the Symek TNC 2H and TNC 3S and Wisp32 for data control 
and SatPC32/Wisat32 for rotor and radio control without any problem. 
Several users ran these combinations? around the clock using the auto 
select features of Wisp32 and SatPC32. We - particular DL9BU - also 
tried very intensively? to work these sats using the internal TNC of our 
TS-2000s, but no success. I don't know any one who got the internal TNC 
working for satellite packet operation.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 06.05.2018 um 20:01 schrieb Vincenzo Mone:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
> Today I got the brilliant idea of ??wanting to receive the packet with my Kenwood TS-2000X with its internal TNC while the SatPC
>
> program was loaded but I noticed that launching the terminal program I had the error of the behavior in when already in use.
>
> Now my question is: is there anyone with the same configuration as I was able to receive and decode the packet while using
>
> the SatPc program?
>
>   What if you want to interact with the ISS while it is in packet mode?
> Any help will be really appreciated
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> WinBollet BetaTester
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>
>
>
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From kb2mjeff at att.net  Sun May  6 21:41:26 2018
From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 17:41:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
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The problem is there is only one comport on the TS-2000. You can use it to 
use the internal TNC with a computer, or you can use it for Doppler control 
with SatPC32. One or the other. But, you might be able to set the TNC up to 
beacon un-attended and use software to control Doppler via the comport. 
Never tried to do it, but it should be possible...

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message----- 
From: Erich Eichmann
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 4:31 PM
To: Vincenzo Mone ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users

Hello Vincent,
the problem you have with the internal TNC of the TS-2000 has nothing to
do with SatPC32. When the 9k6 Pacsats UO-22, KO-23 and KO-25 were
operational (about 15 years ago) my friend Guenther, DL9BU, and I worked
these sats using the Symek TNC 2H and TNC 3S and Wisp32 for data control
and SatPC32/Wisat32 for rotor and radio control without any problem.
Several users ran these combinations  around the clock using the auto
select features of Wisp32 and SatPC32. We - particular DL9BU - also
tried very intensively  to work these sats using the internal TNC of our
TS-2000s, but no success. I don't know any one who got the internal TNC
working for satellite packet operation.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 06.05.2018 um 20:01 schrieb Vincenzo Mone:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
> Today I got the brilliant idea of ??wanting to receive the packet with my 
> Kenwood TS-2000X with its internal TNC while the SatPC
>
> program was loaded but I noticed that launching the terminal program I had 
> the error of the behavior in when already in use.
>
> Now my question is: is there anyone with the same configuration as I was 
> able to receive and decode the packet while using
>
> the SatPc program?
>
>   What if you want to interact with the ISS while it is in packet mode?
> Any help will be really appreciated
>
>
>
>
> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> WinBollet BetaTester
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>
>
>
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>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun May  6 22:01:41 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 18:01:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
In-Reply-To: <54C74F88B3594728A65E69E5AD0DF7D7@kb2m4PC>
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He means "Beacon with the serial port unattended (though the operations
still manned...)"
Since unattended beacons via the APRS digipteaters in space are not welcome
except
for possibly some special events or experiments.   Bob, WB4a{R

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:41 PM, <kb2mjeff at att.net> wrote:

> The problem is there is only one comport on the TS-2000. You can use it to
> use the internal TNC with a computer, or you can use it for Doppler control
> with SatPC32. One or the other. But, you might be able to set the TNC up to
> beacon un-attended and use software to control Doppler via the comport.
> Never tried to do it, but it should be possible...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Erich Eichmann
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 4:31 PM
> To: Vincenzo Mone ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
>
> Hello Vincent,
> the problem you have with the internal TNC of the TS-2000 has nothing to
> do with SatPC32. When the 9k6 Pacsats UO-22, KO-23 and KO-25 were
> operational (about 15 years ago) my friend Guenther, DL9BU, and I worked
> these sats using the Symek TNC 2H and TNC 3S and Wisp32 for data control
> and SatPC32/Wisat32 for rotor and radio control without any problem.
> Several users ran these combinations  around the clock using the auto
> select features of Wisp32 and SatPC32. We - particular DL9BU - also
> tried very intensively  to work these sats using the internal TNC of our
> TS-2000s, but no success. I don't know any one who got the internal TNC
> working for satellite packet operation.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> Am 06.05.2018 um 20:01 schrieb Vincenzo Mone:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>> Today I got the brilliant idea of ??wanting to receive the packet with my
>> Kenwood TS-2000X with its internal TNC while the SatPC
>>
>> program was loaded but I noticed that launching the terminal program I
>> had the error of the behavior in when already in use.
>>
>> Now my question is: is there anyone with the same configuration as I was
>> able to receive and decode the packet while using
>>
>> the SatPc program?
>>
>>   What if you want to interact with the ISS while it is in packet mode?
>> Any help will be really appreciated
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
>> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
>> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
>> WinBollet BetaTester
>> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
>> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        *******************************************
>>        ******   GSM  +39 328 7110193  ******
>>        *****     SMS  +39 328 7110193   *****
>>        *******************************************
>>
>>
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From kb2mjeff at att.net  Mon May  7 00:57:11 2018
From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 20:57:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNJhQiGUoH2Ngvtj_jtNkk+NfBKNTHLP4-0bon-1R-p_Aw@mail.gmail.com>
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I wasn't trying to make a political statement, just trying to say what would 
possibly work, in as few words as possible. I stand corrected :-)

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message----- 
From: Robert Bruninga
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 6:01 PM
To: amsat bb
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users

He means "Beacon with the serial port unattended (though the operations
still manned...)"
Since unattended beacons via the APRS digipteaters in space are not welcome
except
for possibly some special events or experiments.   Bob, WB4a{R

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:41 PM, <kb2mjeff at att.net> wrote:

> The problem is there is only one comport on the TS-2000. You can use it to
> use the internal TNC with a computer, or you can use it for Doppler 
> control
> with SatPC32. One or the other. But, you might be able to set the TNC up 
> to
> beacon un-attended and use software to control Doppler via the comport.
> Never tried to do it, but it should be possible...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Erich Eichmann
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 4:31 PM
> To: Vincenzo Mone ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] To SatPC Users
>
> Hello Vincent,
> the problem you have with the internal TNC of the TS-2000 has nothing to
> do with SatPC32. When the 9k6 Pacsats UO-22, KO-23 and KO-25 were
> operational (about 15 years ago) my friend Guenther, DL9BU, and I worked
> these sats using the Symek TNC 2H and TNC 3S and Wisp32 for data control
> and SatPC32/Wisat32 for rotor and radio control without any problem.
> Several users ran these combinations  around the clock using the auto
> select features of Wisp32 and SatPC32. We - particular DL9BU - also
> tried very intensively  to work these sats using the internal TNC of our
> TS-2000s, but no success. I don't know any one who got the internal TNC
> working for satellite packet operation.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> Am 06.05.2018 um 20:01 schrieb Vincenzo Mone:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>> Today I got the brilliant idea of ??wanting to receive the packet with my
>> Kenwood TS-2000X with its internal TNC while the SatPC
>>
>> program was loaded but I noticed that launching the terminal program I
>> had the error of the behavior in when already in use.
>>
>> Now my question is: is there anyone with the same configuration as I was
>> able to receive and decode the packet while using
>>
>> the SatPc program?
>>
>>   What if you want to interact with the ISS while it is in packet mode?
>> Any help will be really appreciated
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
>> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
>> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
>> WinBollet BetaTester
>> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
>> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        *******************************************
>>        ******   GSM  +39 328 7110193  ******
>>        *****     SMS  +39 328 7110193   *****
>>        *******************************************
>>
>>
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From behique at infomed.sld.cu  Mon May  7 03:38:15 2018
From: behique at infomed.sld.cu (Carlos Alberto)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 23:38:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
Message-ID: <20180506233815.19177h1g8pyqojdz@webmail.sld.cu>

Hi,

I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the  
FM frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm.

I know there are new birds and I don't know the freq.

Thank's in advance.


Carlos A. Santamaria
CO2JC

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From royldean at gmail.com  Mon May  7 11:25:30 2018
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 07:25:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
Message-ID: <CADGPg2tYY8ZKuy5=+rDSCULV5-rpLJOxk5N8dU7qTN7zung=PA@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/

--Roy
K3RLD



>
> Hi, I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the
> FM frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm. I know there are new birds and
> I don't know the freq. Thank's in advance. Carlos A. Santamaria
> CO2JC

From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Mon May  7 13:24:35 2018
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:24:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2tYY8ZKuy5=+rDSCULV5-rpLJOxk5N8dU7qTN7zung=PA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tYY8ZKuy5=+rDSCULV5-rpLJOxk5N8dU7qTN7zung=PA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2090261378.656031.1525699475354@mail.yahoo.com>

What would be really helpful is for the amsat summary page to be updated with a table of common AOS/TCA/LOS frequencies for each Sat.

I don't have my notes but IIRC there were 1 or 2 (SO-50 an/or perhaps AO-85?) which were off from the original published center freq's (then again,
perhaps I'm not remembering correctly).

Rob KA2CZU
 

    On Monday, May 7, 2018, 7:26:13 AM EDT, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/

--Roy
K3RLD



>
> Hi, I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the
> FM frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm. I know there are new birds and
> I don't know the freq. Thank's in advance. Carlos A. Santamaria
> CO2JC
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From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Mon May  7 14:56:33 2018
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 14:56:33 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
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The published SO50 frequencies are ok, but AO85 is off a bit, but I can't
remember in which direction.

73 John AF5CC

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> What would be really helpful is for the amsat summary page to be updated
> with a table of common AOS/TCA/LOS frequencies for each Sat.
>
> I don't have my notes but IIRC there were 1 or 2 (SO-50 an/or perhaps
> AO-85?) which were off from the original published center freq's (then
> again,
> perhaps I'm not remembering correctly).
>
> Rob KA2CZU
>
>
>     On Monday, May 7, 2018, 7:26:13 AM EDT, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi, I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the
> > FM frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm. I know there are new birds and
> > I don't know the freq. Thank's in advance. Carlos A. Santamaria
> > CO2JC
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon May  7 15:38:37 2018
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:38:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
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	<2090261378.656031.1525699475354@mail.yahoo.com>
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The frequencies on that page are the correct ones. 

73, Drew KO4MA

> On May 7, 2018, at 10:56 AM, John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The published SO50 frequencies are ok, but AO85 is off a bit, but I can't
> remember in which direction.
> 
> 73 John AF5CC
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
>> What would be really helpful is for the amsat summary page to be updated
>> with a table of common AOS/TCA/LOS frequencies for each Sat.
>> 
>> I don't have my notes but IIRC there were 1 or 2 (SO-50 an/or perhaps
>> AO-85?) which were off from the original published center freq's (then
>> again,
>> perhaps I'm not remembering correctly).
>> 
>> Rob KA2CZU
>> 
>> 
>>    On Monday, May 7, 2018, 7:26:13 AM EDT, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
>> 
>> --Roy
>> K3RLD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the
>>> FM frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm. I know there are new birds and
>>> I don't know the freq. Thank's in advance. Carlos A. Santamaria
>>> CO2JC
>> _______________________________________________
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From pconver at gmail.com  Mon May  7 15:49:38 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 12:49:38 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
In-Reply-To: <20180506233815.19177h1g8pyqojdz@webmail.sld.cu>
References: <20180506233815.19177h1g8pyqojdz@webmail.sld.cu>
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Hello,

I've set on memories for Yaesu FT-897 and Baofeng UV-5R for FM Sats:

SATID Downlin Up-link STone

SO50E 436.802 145.847 88.5
SO501 436.802 145.847 67.0
SO502 436.794 145.850 67.0
SO503 436.786 145.853 67.0

AO851 145.980 435.180 67.0
AO852 145.977 435.172 67.0
AO853 145.974 435.164 67.0

AO911 145.964 435.242 67.0
AO912 145.961 435.250 67.0
AO913 145.858 435.258 67.0

AO921 145.883 435.342 67.0
AO922 145.880 435.350 67.0
AO923 145.877 435.358 67.0

Using http://amsat.org.ar/pass to see when the satellite will show, using
xxx1 for AOS, xxx2 for TCA and xxx3 for LOS.

So far success on contacts, hope is useful, good luck !.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:38 AM, Carlos Alberto <behique at infomed.sld.cu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the FM
> frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm.
>
> I know there are new birds and I don't know the freq.
>
> Thank's in advance.
>
>
> Carlos A. Santamaria
> CO2JC
>
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From pconver at gmail.com  Mon May  7 16:02:12 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:02:12 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
In-Reply-To: <20180506233815.19177h1g8pyqojdz@webmail.sld.cu>
References: <20180506233815.19177h1g8pyqojdz@webmail.sld.cu>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKnCsmh3H8q9HRwOR1jErrFA9TCD5BdEh6kR0nfAGWjKvg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I've set on memories for Yaesu FT-897 and Baofeng UV-5R for FM Sats:

SATID Downlin Up-link STone

SO50E 436.802 145.847 77.4 (Corrected Stone)
SO501 436.802 145.847 67.0
SO502 436.794 145.850 67.0
SO503 436.786 145.853 67.0

AO851 145.980 435.180 67.0
AO852 145.977 435.172 67.0
AO853 145.974 435.164 67.0

AO911 145.964 435.242 67.0
AO912 145.961 435.250 67.0
AO913 145.858 435.258 67.0

AO921 145.883 435.342 67.0
AO922 145.880 435.350 67.0
AO923 145.877 435.358 67.0

Using http://amsat.org.ar/pass to see when the satellite will show, using
xxx1 for AOS, xxx2 for TCA and xxx3 for LOS.

So far success on contacts, hope is useful.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:38 AM, Carlos Alberto <behique at infomed.sld.cu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the FM
> frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm.
>
> I know there are new birds and I don't know the freq.
>
> Thank's in advance.
>
>
> Carlos A. Santamaria
> CO2JC
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
>
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> usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon May  7 17:22:25 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:22:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Notes on RFI from Solar Panels.
Message-ID: <bbee1af3969f9dfb06015d978754df3e@mail.gmail.com>

John Pink G8MM commented as follows on my concerns for RFI from Solar that
can negatively affect amateur radio operations:





*From:* john_pink
*Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 12:02 PM
*Subject:* RE: NEC 2017 codes of practice.

Bob, I read with interest your comments on the implications of NEC 2017.
You said 'I hope I am not being alarmist' - I don't think you are - however
you are tackling the issue on the wrong front.

The issue that you need to raise concerns the 'standards' that govern the
interfaces between panels and optimisers - and any other ancillary
equipment.   There are IEC and IEEE standards that state the permissible
levels of emission from the ports of these equipment, and the frequencies
they use The standards are for the most part derived from standard agreed
by CISPR.

As a contributor to CISPR through my work at British Standards Institute,
and CENELEC in Brussels, I am aware of many licenced radio amateur from the
USA who are involved in this work.  In fact the lead representative for the
USA on the subject of harvesting of solar energy is an active licensee. He
is also involved with all aspect of Near Field charging of vehicle -
another topic which should cause radio amateurs great concern.

I would recommend two things.  Firstly that you encourage ARRL to increase
its support for this important and valuable work, this may means financial
support for the representatives, since the meetings are held around the
world. ARRL need to sponsor 'experts' to ensure that the cost of travel is
reimbursed.  ( RSGB has been very generous in this respect). Secondly, find
a way, if this does not already exist, to become involved in NEC affairs -
it should be possible to have ARRL representation involved in their work.
The objective is to ensure that 'best practice' is used on all and every
installation of Solar harvesting schemes.

To summarise, the steps should ensure that the items of equipment
(apparatus) are compliant with international standards that are designed to
protect radio services, and then ensure that the equipment are installed in
such a way that they do not negate compliance with the standard.  For
example, if the equipment is connected with twisted pairs in order the meet
the compliance test - the installer must follow the same practice - and so
NEC 2017 (or later versions), must make that clear.

Since every authorised installer should carry and be checked against the
NEC installation practice, things will get better. However, I acknowledge
that best practice is followed when safety issues are concerned - but
rarely are rarely understood when EMC matters are important, and that it
what you have to get across with NEC - and we have to get across here in
Europe, where we face exactly the same challenge.

All of this is an international effort, because for the most part Solar
harvesting equipment is manufacturer around the world. Here in Europe the
systems come from China or Germany.  Which means that it may be compliant
with CENELEC requirements to carry the ubiquitous CE mark. Note that little
word 'may', by which I suggest that there are ways around the compliance
system - just as there are ways around FCC marking.

CISPR  - Special International Committee for Radio Interference, affiliated
with International Electro-Technical Commission (IEC)

CENELEC   European Committee for Electrical Standards

I hope this helps - do let me know if I can provide any additional
background.

John - G8MM, F5VKU

From brad.wf7t at gmail.com  Mon May  7 15:17:55 2018
From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 10:17:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
In-Reply-To: <2090261378.656031.1525699475354@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CADGPg2tYY8ZKuy5=+rDSCULV5-rpLJOxk5N8dU7qTN7zung=PA@mail.gmail.com>
	<2090261378.656031.1525699475354@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <99cb8164-e172-44bd-acf7-00ddf24ec517@Spark>

Check this link: https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/.

Plenty of documentation re: freq tables.

73 Brad WF7T

On May 7, 2018, 8:24 AM -0500, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>, wrote:
> What would be really helpful is for the amsat summary page to be updated with a table of common AOS/TCA/LOS frequencies for each Sat.
>
> I don't have my notes but IIRC there were 1 or 2 (SO-50 an/or perhaps AO-85?) which were off from the original published center freq's (then again,
> perhaps I'm not remembering correctly).
>
> Rob KA2CZU
>
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018, 7:26:13 AM EDT, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi, I'm programming the channels of a 2m/70cm HT and I need to update the
> > FM frequency of sats both in 2m and 70 cm. I know there are new birds and
> > I don't know the freq. Thank's in advance. Carlos A. Santamaria
> > CO2JC
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From k2gog at yahoo.com  Mon May  7 22:57:52 2018
From: k2gog at yahoo.com (Steve Bossert)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 22:57:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>

I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released late last month:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-space-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations

This one:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg?

While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may have some details on this antenna.?
Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.? I would like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org? website in the "notebook" section.???

Thanks,?
Steve?
Steve Bossert?K2GOG at yahoo.com?914-573-1799

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon May  7 23:02:12 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 19:02:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPzpxdWZGQbGG94zNJ9w51N5H0r1KmBmbJaQGCuu7XeSw@mail.gmail.com>

I was also curious about that antenna, and that they only have two
stations, one on the west coast and one on the east, with one not even
having directional antennas. Would that really provide them the
coverage they need? I guess it must and there is something I am
missing.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released late last month:
> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-space-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations
>
> This one:
> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg
>
> While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may have some details on this antenna.
> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.  I would like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org  website in the "notebook" section.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Steve Bossert K2GOG at yahoo.com 914-573-1799
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From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net  Mon May  7 23:39:52 2018
From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 19:39:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>

Looks like a standard 8 turn, axial mode, helix to me.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helical_antenna#Axial-mode_helical

Looks like about 8 dBi gain.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV


On 5/7/2018 6:57 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released late last month:
> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-space-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations
>
> This one:
> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg
>
> While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may have some details on this antenna.
> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.? I would like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org? website in the "notebook" section.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Steve Bossert?K2GOG at yahoo.com?914-573-1799
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI LM   NRA LM   SBE ARRL TAPR
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of the Amateur that holds the license"


From vk2fak at gmail.com  Tue May  8 01:51:08 2018
From: vk2fak at gmail.com (John Mac)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 11:51:08 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
	<cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

Not sure its a standard 8 turn helix, the feed looks totally different and
looks like it has a ring reflector..

John

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Glenn Little WB4UIV <
glennmaillist at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Looks like a standard 8 turn, axial mode, helix to me.
>
> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helical_antenna#Axial-mode_helical
>
> Looks like about 8 dBi gain.
>
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV
>
>
>
> On 5/7/2018 6:57 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
>> I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released late
>> last month:
>> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-spac
>> e-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations
>>
>> This one:
>> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/
>> upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg
>>
>> While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may
>> have some details on this antenna.
>> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not
>> another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.  I would
>> like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org  website
>> in the "notebook" section.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>> Steve Bossert K2GOG at yahoo.com 914-573-1799
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
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> Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            wb4uiv at arrl.net    AMSAT LM 2178
> QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI LM   NRA LM   SBE ARRL TAPR
> "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
> of the Amateur that holds the license"
>
>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue May  8 02:03:12 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 22:03:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
	<cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>
	<CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNJeFzohO5fjg65rwU8gQW6KM6X2XYfMY5aZgjLMZ+z56Q@mail.gmail.com>

>> Looks like a standard 8 turn, axial mode, helix to me.
>> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helical_antenna#Axial-mode_helical
>
> Looks like about 8 dBi gain.

>> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not
>> I would like to author a construction and theory article...
.
Thats an awful lot of hardware just for 8 dBi gain!
You can get that with a 4 element yagii.

I dont think the helix makes any sense for ham bands because the main
advantage of the helix is broadband, meaning one design can operate with
low SWR over about 20% or say from 130 to 160 Mhz.  A yagii can always do
much better four our narrow bands.

my opinion anyway...

bob
WB4APR

From wandtosborne at gmail.com  Tue May  8 04:30:18 2018
From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:30:18 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com><1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com><cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>
	<CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C88DF81653B44589A2180E6FA69412FE@OsbornesPC>

Hi,

Yes, it's an 8 turn helix with a Gamma match (50 ohms to 120 ohms).
The advantages of ring reflector are in an IEEE Transactions paper 
somewhere. (about 25 years ago?).
Not sure what the VHF 1 and VHF 2 frequencies are but if they are more than 
a few MHz apart, that would explain the use of a helix
rather than a crossed yagi antenna.

The other picture (existingvhf.jpg) on the web page shows a 4 crossed yagi 
array with rotators.

73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC


-----Original Message----- 
From: John Mac
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:51 PM
To: Glenn Little WB4UIV
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question

Hi.

Not sure its a standard 8 turn helix, the feed looks totally different and
looks like it has a ring reflector..

John

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Glenn Little WB4UIV <
glennmaillist at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Looks like a standard 8 turn, axial mode, helix to me.
>
> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helical_antenna#Axial-mode_helical
>
> Looks like about 8 dBi gain.
>
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV
>
>
>
> On 5/7/2018 6:57 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
>> I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released late
>> last month:
>> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-spac
>> e-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations
>>
>> This one:
>> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/
>> upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg
>>
>> While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may
>> have some details on this antenna.
>> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not
>> another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.  I would
>> like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org 
>> website
>> in the "notebook" section.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>> Steve Bossert K2GOG at yahoo.com 914-573-1799
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
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> QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI LM   NRA LM   SBE ARRL TAPR
> "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
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>
>
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From aj9n at aol.com  Tue May  8 06:20:48 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 02:20:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-08 06:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <1633e68d725-1dae-80d@webjas-vae121.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-08 06:30 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, direct via WA4SXM/N4CFB

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact was successful: Mon 2018-05-07 13:54:10 UTC 23 deg (***)

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University of the Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines, telebridge via W6SRJ (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***)

Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-05-15 08:22:45 UTC 24 deg (***)

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

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Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

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Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-08 06:30 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1227. ?(***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1176. ?(***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

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The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

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QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-08 06:30 UTC. ?(***)


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

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Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Tue May  8 07:14:40 2018
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 08:14:40 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode change
Message-ID: <ebffc6c2-4ea7-013a-9f8d-a6191257003c@btinternet.com>

Hi All,

FUNcube-1 is now operating in autonomous mode until Friday evening (UTC).

The transponder will be on in eclipse and switch to high power telemetry 
only when in sunlight.

73

Graham

G3VZV


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Tue May  8 12:51:29 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 14:51:29 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <C88DF81653B44589A2180E6FA69412FE@OsbornesPC>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
	<cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>
	<CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C88DF81653B44589A2180E6FA69412FE@OsbornesPC>
Message-ID: <086ef432-1229-c295-03a0-07de4e2e17da@xs4all.nl>


VHF 1 is 143.625 MHz (the standard Russian ISS downlink frequency) and
VHF 2 is 130.165 MHz (the Soyuz downlink frequency).

The gain of this 8 turn helix should be about 13 dBic.

I once built a 9 turn helix for 2 m. Worked very well.

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 08-05-18 06:30, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, it's an 8 turn helix with a Gamma match (50 ohms to 120 ohms).
> The advantages of ring reflector are in an IEEE Transactions paper 
> somewhere. (about 25 years ago?).
> Not sure what the VHF 1 and VHF 2 frequencies are but if they are more 
> than a few MHz apart, that would explain the use of a helix
> rather than a crossed yagi antenna.
>
> The other picture (existingvhf.jpg) on the web page shows a 4 crossed 
> yagi array with rotators.
>
> 73,
> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Mac
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:51 PM
> To: Glenn Little WB4UIV
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
>
> Hi.
>
> Not sure its a standard 8 turn helix, the feed looks totally different 
> and
> looks like it has a ring reflector..
>
> John
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Glenn Little WB4UIV <
> glennmaillist at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Looks like a standard 8 turn, axial mode, helix to me.
>>
>> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helical_antenna#Axial-mode_helical
>>
>> Looks like about 8 dBi gain.
>>
>> 73
>> Glenn
>> WB4UIV
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/7/2018 6:57 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>
>>> I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released 
>>> late
>>> last month:
>>> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-spac
>>> e-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations
>>>
>>> This one:
>>> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/
>>> upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg
>>>
>>> While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may
>>> have some details on this antenna.
>>> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not
>>> another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.? I would
>>> like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org 
>>> website
>>> in the "notebook" section.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve
>>> Steve Bossert K2GOG at yahoo.com 914-573-1799
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
>>> views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Glenn Little??????????????? ARRL Technical Specialist?? QCWA? LM 28417
>> Amateur Callsign:? WB4UIV??????????? wb4uiv at arrl.net??? AMSAT LM 2178
>> QTH:? Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)? USSVI LM?? NRA LM?? SBE ARRL TAPR
>> "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
>> of the Amateur that holds the license"
>>
>>


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Tue May  8 12:56:15 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 14:56:15 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <086ef432-1229-c295-03a0-07de4e2e17da@xs4all.nl>
References: <1179350283.930752.1525733872665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1179350283.930752.1525733872665@mail.yahoo.com>
	<cbd3ef79-7584-2799-9a0f-de25f97aa5b5@bellsouth.net>
	<CANiF7qMDE5HvPtu+9c5P6gQ3VfC4n3=1PeEai3x7qW9umUjWQA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C88DF81653B44589A2180E6FA69412FE@OsbornesPC>
	<086ef432-1229-c295-03a0-07de4e2e17da@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <e31d89d2-6219-7631-cc50-6f1ffcd80124@xs4all.nl>


Correction:
VHF 2 on 130.165 MHz is the secundary downlink from ISS.
The Soyuz downlink frequency is 121.750 MHz.

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 08-05-18 14:51, Nico Janssen wrote:
>
> VHF 1 is 143.625 MHz (the standard Russian ISS downlink frequency) and
> VHF 2 is 130.165 MHz (the Soyuz downlink frequency).
>
> The gain of this 8 turn helix should be about 13 dBic.
>
> I once built a 9 turn helix for 2 m. Worked very well.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 08-05-18 06:30, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, it's an 8 turn helix with a Gamma match (50 ohms to 120 ohms).
>> The advantages of ring reflector are in an IEEE Transactions paper 
>> somewhere. (about 25 years ago?).
>> Not sure what the VHF 1 and VHF 2 frequencies are but if they are 
>> more than a few MHz apart, that would explain the use of a helix
>> rather than a crossed yagi antenna.
>>
>> The other picture (existingvhf.jpg) on the web page shows a 4 crossed 
>> yagi array with rotators.
>>
>> 73,
>> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: John Mac
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:51 PM
>> To: Glenn Little WB4UIV
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Not sure its a standard 8 turn helix, the feed looks totally 
>> different and
>> looks like it has a ring reflector..
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Glenn Little WB4UIV <
>> glennmaillist at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a standard 8 turn, axial mode, helix to me.
>>>
>>> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helical_antenna#Axial-mode_helical
>>>
>>> Looks like about 8 dBi gain.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Glenn
>>> WB4UIV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/7/2018 6:57 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am curious about the helical antenna in the article just released 
>>>> late
>>>> last month:
>>>> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-upgrades-spac
>>>> e-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations
>>>>
>>>> This one:
>>>> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/
>>>> upgradedvhf-antenna.jpg
>>>>
>>>> While I await a reply from the article author, I wonder if anyone may
>>>> have some details on this antenna.
>>>> Looks like a good candidate as a functional lawn ornament that is not
>>>> another QFH for more garden modern art satellite installation.? I 
>>>> would
>>>> like to author a construction and theory article for the HVDN.org 
>>>> website
>>>> in the "notebook" section.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Steve
>>>> Steve Bossert K2GOG at yahoo.com 914-573-1799
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
>>>> views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Glenn Little??????????????? ARRL Technical Specialist?? QCWA LM 28417
>>> Amateur Callsign:? WB4UIV??????????? wb4uiv at arrl.net??? AMSAT LM 2178
>>> QTH:? Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)? USSVI LM?? NRA LM?? SBE ARRL TAPR
>>> "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
>>> of the Amateur that holds the license"
>>>
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From k9qho67622 at comcast.net  Tue May  8 13:27:26 2018
From: k9qho67622 at comcast.net (MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 09:27:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
Message-ID: <384101751.273095.1525786046967@connect.xfinity.com>

I've been using a similar (home brew) helix (including ring reflector) on 70 cm since AO-40 days. It works very well (see my QRZ page). The one being discussed has an extra ring reflector.

From w9gb at icloud.com  Tue May  8 13:22:46 2018
From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 08:22:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
Message-ID: <4152E32E-71DA-481B-88EC-8A43F48ACBFE@icloud.com>

I posted the NASA upgrade article on QRZ Satellite Forum, April 28, 2018
https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/nasa-upgrades-space-station-emergency-communications-ground-stations.608557/

Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK provided additional information from 
the frequency chart at the ISS Fan Club web site.
VHF1 is 143.625 MHz FM, and 
VHF2 is 130.167 MHz FM

ISS Fan Club web site: https://www.issfanclub.com/
ISS Frequency Chart (includes telemetry downlinks, beacons):
https://www.issfanclub.com/frequencies

AMSAT members at NASA Goddard should be able to answer additional questions.

Greg, w9gb
? EOM ?
===
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:30:18 +1200
From: "Wendy and Terry Osborne"
To: "John Mac",  "Glenn Little WB4UIV"
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question

Hi,
Yes, it's an 8 turn helix with a Gamma match (50 ohms to 120 ohms).
The advantages of ring reflector are in an IEEE Transactions paper 
somewhere. (about 25 years ago?).
Not sure what the VHF 1 and VHF 2 frequencies are but if they are more than 
a few MHz apart, that would explain the use of a helix
rather than a crossed yagi antenna.

The other picture (existingvhf.jpg) on the web page shows a 4 crossed yagi 
array with rotators.
73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC


From ingejack at cox.net  Tue May  8 20:51:18 2018
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:51:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
Message-ID: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>

I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup !! Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but everyone just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but it sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON GUYS ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem !!  JACK  KC7MG

From caleb at calebsmith.net  Tue May  8 20:58:49 2018
From: caleb at calebsmith.net (Caleb Smith)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 20:58:49 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>

While we're on this topic -- any tips for new hams wanting to work the
satellites? I've listened to about 5 passes but always feel like if I call
in I'll step over someone. Do I toss out just my call? A call and a grid?
Do I try to call someone else I heard? Generally I'd listen with an sdrplay
RSP2 and transmit with a cheap handheld, so I do have full duplex
capability.

On Tue, May 8, 2018, 2:51 PM alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> wrote:

> I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the
> lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in
> particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup !!
> Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a
> contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but everyone
> just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but it
> sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON GUYS
> ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station
> before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be
> running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem !!
> JACK  KC7MG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From w7lrd at comcast.net  Tue May  8 21:12:58 2018
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 14:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] cell tracking
Message-ID: <100627545.67405.1525813978609@connect.xfinity.com>

Hi All- I am looking for a tracking program for a motorola moto g5 plus-any suggesdtions?

73 Bob W7LRD

Seattle

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue May  8 21:15:35 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 17:15:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
	<CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnObtkCr08pcS1QEqNKYW+183s9MmGK0NVhAHZwoZXeRmnw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Caleb!

Some of the more experienced guys might reply with specific operating
suggestions, so you'll want to follow any such tips for sure.

But one thing I always like to mention to people is that all the satellites
are a lot less crowded late at night.  I know everyone can't stay up late
on a regular basis, but if you can manage any of the late passes at least
occassionally, it sure makes it easier to get to know your equipment and
have some successful contacts.  Unlike a busy weekend pass, for instance,
at night there's ample time for someone to let you know if your TX audio is
low or whatever.

Hope you enjoy satellite operating!

-Scott,  K4KDR

========================

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Caleb Smith <caleb at calebsmith.net> wrote:

> While we're on this topic -- any tips for new hams wanting to work the
> satellites? I've listened to about 5 passes but always feel like if I call
> in I'll step over someone. Do I toss out just my call? A call and a grid?
> Do I try to call someone else I heard? Generally I'd listen with an sdrplay
> RSP2 and transmit with a cheap handheld, so I do have full duplex
> capability.

From mr.soup12 at gmail.com  Tue May  8 20:58:13 2018
From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 15:58:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <CAD+wY0uX4SkF_fJudGuCCeGN=e=XdfxMT+Nuhr_ZuW0XpNvbog@mail.gmail.com>

Operators like that do not read this list.  Nor would they care.

Nor do most.  Here at work, 'my message' is always more important then
yours.  Even if it means neither of us will be heard.

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> wrote:

> I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the
> lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in
> particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup !!
> Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a
> contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but everyone
> just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but it
> sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON GUYS
> ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station
> before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be
> running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem !!
> JACK  KC7MG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From nss at mwt.net  Tue May  8 21:29:08 2018
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:29:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <CAD+wY0uX4SkF_fJudGuCCeGN=e=XdfxMT+Nuhr_ZuW0XpNvbog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
	<CAD+wY0uX4SkF_fJudGuCCeGN=e=XdfxMT+Nuhr_ZuW0XpNvbog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13637b1d-565c-90cf-4f08-eb832a41a3b0@mwt.net>

And this is the main reason I do NOT like the FM Birds.
Too much like "SKIP" on CH 19

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 5/8/2018 3:58 PM, Oliver wrote:
> Operators like that do not read this list.  Nor would they care.
>
> Nor do most.  Here at work, 'my message' is always more important then
> yours.  Even if it means neither of us will be heard.
>
> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the
>> lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in
>> particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup !!
>> Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a
>> contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but everyone
>> just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but it
>> sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON GUYS
>> ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station
>> before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be
>> running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem !!
>> JACK  KC7MG
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue May  8 21:30:32 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 21:30:32 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
	<CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPBbWJN4TEOAYjqNs0purNBq6omZ9JOgRo4ETW3C3JOEw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Caleb,

I'd say since so many put their calls out it is more efficient to call
someone yourself.

73, John Brier KG4AKV



On Tue, May 8, 2018, 17:00 Caleb Smith <caleb at calebsmith.net> wrote:

> While we're on this topic -- any tips for new hams wanting to work the
> satellites? I've listened to about 5 passes but always feel like if I call
> in I'll step over someone. Do I toss out just my call? A call and a grid?
> Do I try to call someone else I heard? Generally I'd listen with an sdrplay
> RSP2 and transmit with a cheap handheld, so I do have full duplex
> capability.
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018, 2:51 PM alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the
> > lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in
> > particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup
> !!
> > Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a
> > contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but
> everyone
> > just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but
> it
> > sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON
> GUYS
> > ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station
> > before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be
> > running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem
> !!
> > JACK  KC7MG
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Tue May  8 21:39:54 2018
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 21:39:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sats
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
	<CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1288665023.1331910.1525815594383@mail.yahoo.com>

Caleb (Call???),


When you hear someone announce their Call or Call & Grid (Nobody calls CQ),
and there is no other QSO in progress, give their and from your Call
or Call & Grid. Always use standard phonetics and individual numbers. 

Example:
(RX)  Whiskey One Alpha Bravo, Fox November Two Zero
(TX)  Whiskey One Alpha Bravo from Kilo Six Yankee Zulu
(RX)  Kilo Six Yankee Zulu here is Whiskey One Alpha Bravo,
       Fox November Two Zero, over
(TX)  Whiskey One Alpha Bravo, QSL from Kilo Six Yankee Zulu,
       Delta Mike One Four
(RX)  QSL Seven Three from Whiskey One Alpha Bravo

Try to be quick before some else calls W1AB. If they do, wait for the
sequence to finish and call. If someone else announces their Call, you
can call them or W1AB. Or, you could announce your Call and see if someone
calls you. In any event, do not make any call if there is a QSO already
in progress. Remember, the FM birds are a shared resource and there may
be a number of Hams anxiously waiting to use it. Be fast and brief.

GL/73,     Bob  K8BL



________________________________
From: Caleb Smith <caleb at calebsmith.net>
To: alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> 
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance



While we're on this topic -- any tips for new hams wanting to work the
satellites? I've listened to about 5 passes but always feel like if I call
in I'll step over someone. Do I toss out just my call? A call and a grid?
Do I try to call someone else I heard? Generally I'd listen with an sdrplay
RSP2 and transmit with a cheap handheld, so I do have full duplex
capability.

On Tue, May 8, 2018, 2:51 PM alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> wrote:

> I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the
> lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in
> particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup !!
> Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a
> contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but everyone
> just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but it
> sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON GUYS
> ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station
> before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be
> running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem !!
> JACK  KC7MG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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From vk2fak at gmail.com  Tue May  8 22:22:43 2018
From: vk2fak at gmail.com (John Mac)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 08:22:43 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <384101751.273095.1525786046967@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <384101751.273095.1525786046967@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CANiF7qOQD=1iDKUBiHtmfcFozotqKktNqbMMYVAHW2Hy8p7=MQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all..

Is there any details on the web about this type of helix, have never seen
it with a ring reflector in books.    I have seen a few different shapes of
reflector cup, and cone which can give a good increase in gain, but also
the extra gain is not wide bandwidth..
I run a 12 turn helix now
John

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:27 PM, MICHAEL WILLIAMS <k9qho67622 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I've been using a similar (home brew) helix (including ring reflector) on
> 70 cm since AO-40 days. It works very well (see my QRZ page). The one being
> discussed has an extra ring reflector.
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From jhill_81 at yahoo.com  Wed May  9 00:19:36 2018
From: jhill_81 at yahoo.com (Mr B r a d)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 00:19:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 packet and ts-2000    AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13,
 Issue 156
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5678.1525629713.5767.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.5678.1525629713.5767.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2121313655.1371964.1525825176536@mail.yahoo.com>


-=-=-=-
I also found i could not rig control the ts2000 and use the internal TNC at the same time.as ariss digi is 2 meters only maybe we dont need satpc32 to control it for the passand we can switch from rig control to tnc mode ???? but I? use the rig control more...
I also have a signalink USB on the ACC jack but have not had enough play timeto get it working on the one 10 minute pass before work.from what I have read direwolf is the better for the sound card modemsbut im stuck now trying to get it to switch up to usb codex(2) for this radio...?? anyone ???
I also have uz7ho(sp?) modem kinda working , it?decodes good but my transmit audio tones don't stay locked? ????
can some one list a good working config of stuff to work the psat ?
it might be nice to run that psat mode and gate the traffic into aprs network ,?but that is one more can of worms I have totally got out of control nowwith it displaying all of the aprs traffic on earth and i only want to see local RF.ko6kL
*****************************************
  

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed May  9 02:20:47 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 22:20:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] cell tracking
In-Reply-To: <100627545.67405.1525813978609@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <100627545.67405.1525813978609@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO_Xry0MJMbmrzz2x+fPjMGUHbvefJiD9YGP66dnmF_hg@mail.gmail.com>

I personally prefer ISS Detector Pro mostly because of its filtering
ability. Heavens-Above was what I used before that. There is also
AMSAT Droid. See the features they all have here:

http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites

73, John Brier KG4AKV

P.S. Thanks to Roy K3RLD, Sterling N0SSC, and Brad WF7T for their
recent updates to the above wiki page. If you want to contribute make
an account on wikidot and let me or Brad know your username and we
will add you as an editor.



On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi All- I am looking for a tracking program for a motorola moto g5 plus-any suggesdtions?
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
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From brad.wf7t at gmail.com  Tue May  8 22:41:46 2018
From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 17:41:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] cell tracking
In-Reply-To: <100627545.67405.1525813978609@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <100627545.67405.1525813978609@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAONzx52dbqm_FY4XZzpja6GB_a_H+K46WHJsOe+ppiRcN7LCkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bob: http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi All- I am looking for a tracking program for a motorola moto g5
> plus-any suggesdtions?
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com  Wed May  9 07:04:57 2018
From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 23:04:57 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Crazy Alaska Grids
Message-ID: <CAEGYLCtfnM1ON9-vtjfdtLqYc1b=a6kuj5usLf0ogEd=iGEB8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello fellow bird folk,

Tomorrow evening (Wednesday) I embark on a quick rove to the far north.
Being that I have a rare two day "weekend" this week, I thought might as
well take advantage of it. I will be going to Barrow, AK, the furthest
north point in the United States at over 71 degrees north, well into the
Arctic. The grid is BQ11. I arrive in Barrow mid-day on Thursday (will be
spending the night in Anchorage, as I have activated all nearby grids
thoroughly and there is an active sat op in BP51, I have no plans to
activate). Shortly after arriving in Barrow, I will get on a Cessna Caravan
to Wainwright, AK, a short way southwest of Barrow. The grids here are AQ90
and BQ00 and I plan to be on the line. I only have about four hours on the
ground in Wainwright, approximately 2105Z Thursday until 0100Z before
returning to Barrow. I will focus on the full NA AO-7 passes as well as
FO-29 towards JA and EU, other passes as feasible. Upon return to Barrow, I
will have a rental car and be up all through the night working passes
#fullharambe until I leave mid-day on Friday with a focus on FO-29.

I will bring my ninja FT-817NDs as well as my IC-910H, with trusty Arrow.
Two other grids possible are BQ50 and BP64, but these are relatively short
stopovers on milkrun flights and I definitely don't expect to be able to
activate, although if the opportunity presents itself I shall seize such
opportunity to snag the /r. There should be many opportunities for chasers
throughout the northern hemisphere to get BQ11 and still decent chance for
the others. Specific updates will be posted to twitter @AL6D_Alaska as
possible and necessary.

73 harambe,
Gabe
AL6D/VE6NJH (ex NJ7H)

From mr.soup12 at gmail.com  Wed May  9 00:03:30 2018
From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 19:03:30 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnObtkCr08pcS1QEqNKYW+183s9MmGK0NVhAHZwoZXeRmnw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
	<CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJCSnObtkCr08pcS1QEqNKYW+183s9MmGK0NVhAHZwoZXeRmnw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+wY0vP5trT_=xWBnEPJ2mK1vr9EarDRQaxm82jhEU5HQuNOQ@mail.gmail.com>

I can echo this experience.  All my passes on nights were free of the riff
raff.  It was not until I watched a video of a day pass I truly understood.

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Caleb!
>
> Some of the more experienced guys might reply with specific operating
> suggestions, so you'll want to follow any such tips for sure.
>
> But one thing I always like to mention to people is that all the satellites
> are a lot less crowded late at night.  I know everyone can't stay up late
> on a regular basis, but if you can manage any of the late passes at least
> occassionally, it sure makes it easier to get to know your equipment and
> have some successful contacts.  Unlike a busy weekend pass, for instance,
> at night there's ample time for someone to let you know if your TX audio is
> low or whatever.
>
> Hope you enjoy satellite operating!
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
>
> ========================
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Caleb Smith <caleb at calebsmith.net> wrote:
>
> > While we're on this topic -- any tips for new hams wanting to work the
> > satellites? I've listened to about 5 passes but always feel like if I
> call
> > in I'll step over someone. Do I toss out just my call? A call and a grid?
> > Do I try to call someone else I heard? Generally I'd listen with an
> sdrplay
> > RSP2 and transmit with a cheap handheld, so I do have full duplex
> > capability.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed May  9 10:06:58 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 05:06:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tips for prompt message posting
Message-ID: <000001d3e77d$77ca6f00$675f4d00$@gmail.com>

Recently, there have been several posts, including some time sensitive
roving information, which have been held for moderator release because they
were sent by list members from accounts other than the one used to register
with the list.  While the moderators are happy to release these messages, it
can result in significant delay.  Since there are many new members here,
attached is a guide which was published two years ago.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


Tips for prompt message posting.

People sometimes post time-sensitive messages to AMSAT-BB. Examples are last
minute grid activities, unexpected satellite mode changes, requests for
critically important telemetry, etc. These normally go through promptly, but
occasionally get held for two basic reasons:

While AMSAT-BB is an open list, that means it is open for membership, not
posting. In order to post to the list, it normally must be from the same
account you originally registered. For instance, if you registered from your
home account, and post from your office account, it will normally be held
for release by a moderator. Likewise, some people have all their email
forwarded to a single account from which they reply. We can create a filter
to pass the second address, but that is not automatically done on the first
instance, and does require moderator action.

AMSAT-BB receives many pieces of spam for each legitimate message. As part
of the filtering process, emails larger than 50 kB are blocked. This usually
happens to legitimate email when someone attempts to attach a large file, or
does not trim an extended series of exchanges. Also, there is a limit to the
number of addresses before an email is held as potential spam. I have seen
legitimate email sent to 30+ addresses.

We have a team of volunteer moderators, but they are not available 24/7. The
result is that a message sent in the evening or on a holiday, US time, may
well be held for several hours before being released. So, if it absolutely,
positively needs to be distributed promptly:

1. Post from the same account you registered, or one which from past
experience you know has been flagged as acceptable.

2. Do not use attachments. (Pictures and other files should be included by a
link.) They will be blocked to the list, and if the total size of the
message plus attachments exceeds 50 kB, the mail will be held.

3. Send it to AMSAT-BB and a few other addresses at most. If you must send
to a large distribution list, send to them, and another copy to AMSAT-BB. (A
trick which seems to work well is to place most of the addresses in the BCC
rather than CC line.)

4. Consider also posting to the AMSAT Twitter and Facebook accounts. There
is overlap in membership, though at present it is far from 100%.

5. Do not send large commercial press releases, or things which look like
them. They will be caught by heuristic spam filters. A simple posting of an
event or activity will normally go through. Note that there are existing
exemptions for official channels such as ANS, ARISS, other AMSAT
organizations, etc.

6. All new accounts are automatically flagged for moderation. This flag will
normally be cleared on the first or second posting, but do allow for and
expect an initial delay if you establish a dedicated account for your
satellite organization.

7. Remember that this is a text-only list. Posting using HTML formatting
will have unpredictable results, and may trigger the 50 kB hold for what
appears to be a short message.


From matt at nj4y.radio  Wed May  9 11:44:55 2018
From: matt at nj4y.radio (Matt nj4y)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 07:44:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266624148.21755.1525812678878@myemail.cox.net>
	<CAJZ5Lj8dBP603UaErKda6pH8evJW+GTK870P2omD+QaNE9cqSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <819521ad-55f0-0f6c-73a3-87944ce8ab6e@nj4y.radio>

Easiest thing is to call someone you've heard. Or even easier, set up a 
sked with another op ahead of time - let them call you and you answer! 
NP4JV did that for me on my first SO-50 pass a few years ago, made it a 
lot less daunting first starting out.


73

- Matt nj4y
On 5/8/2018 4:58 PM, Caleb Smith wrote:
> While we're on this topic -- any tips for new hams wanting to work the
> satellites? I've listened to about 5 passes but always feel like if I call
> in I'll step over someone. Do I toss out just my call? A call and a grid?
> Do I try to call someone else I heard? Generally I'd listen with an sdrplay
> RSP2 and transmit with a cheap handheld, so I do have full duplex
> capability.
> 
> On Tue, May 8, 2018, 2:51 PM alex weimer <ingejack at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> I happened to be listening on AO-91 at 1939UTC and was appalled at the
>> lack of etiquette on some stations working the satellite. One station in
>> particular was adamantly calling everyone on the satellite without letup !!
>> Nobody left any space in between calls to enable anyone else to make a
>> contact !  One station tried to make a call to an XE2 station but everyone
>> just jumped on top without let up !! I don't know what the answer is but it
>> sure is one reason that I do not work the FM birds very often. COME ON GUYS
>> ... Courtesy is the name of the game .. If you have worked that station
>> before, don't call him/her again on the very next pass..  Sorry to be
>> running off at the mouth but this is definitely getting to be a problem !!
>> JACK  KC7MG
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Wed May  9 14:53:23 2018
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 14:53:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Crazy Alaska Grids
In-Reply-To: <CAEGYLCtfnM1ON9-vtjfdtLqYc1b=a6kuj5usLf0ogEd=iGEB8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEGYLCtfnM1ON9-vtjfdtLqYc1b=a6kuj5usLf0ogEd=iGEB8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <934925588.1575125.1525877603801@mail.yahoo.com>

Gabe,

Great plan!!! You'll make a LOT of folks happy. Some day,
I hope to have antennas back up at my new QTH and be active
on the SATs again.

I'll be in Fairbanks (BP64) in August for a week and plan
to activate several nearby Grids. The costs of motels and rental
cars are unbelievable, but AK is on my Bucket List and that
makes it OK - HIHI. More info later.

Safe Travels!    GL/73,     Bob  K8BL
________________________________
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman at gmail.com>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 5:56 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Crazy Alaska Grids

Hello fellow bird folk,

Tomorrow evening (Wednesday) I embark on a quick rove to the far north.
Being that I have a rare two day "weekend" this week, I thought might as
well take advantage of it. I will be going to Barrow, AK, the furthest
north point in the United States at over 71 degrees north, well into the
Arctic. The grid is BQ11. I arrive in Barrow mid-day on Thursday (will be
spending the night in Anchorage, as I have activated all nearby grids
thoroughly and there is an active sat op in BP51, I have no plans to
activate). Shortly after arriving in Barrow, I will get on a Cessna Caravan
to Wainwright, AK, a short way southwest of Barrow. The grids here are AQ90
and BQ00 and I plan to be on the line. I only have about four hours on the
ground in Wainwright, approximately 2105Z Thursday until 0100Z before
returning to Barrow. I will focus on the full NA AO-7 passes as well as
FO-29 towards JA and EU, other passes as feasible. Upon return to Barrow, I
will have a rental car and be up all through the night working passes
#fullharambe until I leave mid-day on Friday with a focus on FO-29.

I will bring my ninja FT-817NDs as well as my IC-910H, with trusty Arrow.
Two other grids possible are BQ50 and BP64, but these are relatively short
stopovers on milkrun flights and I definitely don't expect to be able to
activate, although if the opportunity presents itself I shall seize such
opportunity to snag the /r. There should be many opportunities for chasers
throughout the northern hemisphere to get BQ11 and still decent chance for
the others. Specific updates will be posted to twitter @AL6D_Alaska as
possible and necessary.

73 harambe,

Gabe
AL6D/VE6NJH (ex NJ7H)

From jgatti at optonline.net  Wed May  9 15:52:04 2018
From: jgatti at optonline.net (jgatti)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 11:52:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Sat Exhuberance
Message-ID: <902ybd8mqq1c02hd7isbdm19.1525881124638@email.android.com>

One other suggestion. Please don't call an operator that is calling someone else.?Julia, n2ppl

From marty.schuette at siu.edu  Thu May 10 03:00:12 2018
From: marty.schuette at siu.edu (Martin A Schuette)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 03:00:12 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] 6Y5IDX log
Message-ID: <CY4PR07MB3557F18DCE5C5457BCB76A2C9F980@CY4PR07MB3557.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hey bird folk,


I've been working with Chris, VO1IDX/6Y5IDX to get his logs sorted out. However, some passes may have been lost due to phone issues during rainstorms while he was in Jamaica. The following are in the log at this time, and should be uploaded tomorrow: YS1MS(x2), TI2CDA, TI4DJ, FG8OJ, WP4PRD, N1RCN (x2),  KE4AL, K9EO, N1COR, HP2VX, NA2AA(x2), N9EAT, AK4WQ, AA5PK, N8HM, N8RO, K4FEG, KD8ATF, KG4AKV, KB1PVH, NK1K.

If you worked them, and have a recording available to prove it, forward them to either me or Chris VO1IDX. His email is good on QRZ. Additionally, forward any lotw issues to either of use. Paper QSL cards are via direct to VO1IDX.


73,

Marty N9EAT

From aj9n at aol.com  Thu May 10 07:44:31 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 03:44:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-10 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <16349023624-1dcf-cdf3@webjas-vab209.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-10 07:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



University of the Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-05-15 08:22:45 UTC 24 deg

?



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-10 07:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1227. ?
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1176. 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-08 06:30 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From Bennett.Norell at optimum.net  Thu May 10 13:57:04 2018
From: Bennett.Norell at optimum.net (Bennett Norell)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 09:57:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Yaesu FT-847 -lower price
Message-ID: <001501d3e866$c736ec50$55a4c4f0$@optimum.net>

Yaesu FT-847 Earth station, with hand mic. The FT-847 is a HF (6-160m),2m
and 70cm SSB/AM/FM/CW radio, 100w SSB/CW/FM on 6-160 plus 50w on 2m and 440.
AM mode also available. Regular and satellite modes. Excellent physical and
working condition. FT-847 with hand mic , original manual and power cord,
$650. Next, Yaesu FC-20 auto tuner for FT-847 with connecting cable, works
from 6m through 160m, $75. Yaesu MD-100 desk mic is in good shape and works
(mount for the mic had cracked and been glued back together- not bad
looking).$75. 
All items sold as-is due to parts swappers, but can demo if local pickup NNJ
07082 Extra actual cost to ship/insure. Accept USPS money order, bank check
or Paypal (with added fee). Thanks, Bennett KO2OK


From Bennett.Norell at optimum.net  Thu May 10 14:00:03 2018
From: Bennett.Norell at optimum.net (Bennett Norell)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 10:00:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Kenwood TS-2000 -lower price
Message-ID: <002201d3e867$321db6c0$96592440$@optimum.net>

NEW LOWER PRICE - FS: From an estate: Kenwood TS-2000 100W HF/6/2, 50w/440
on SSB/CW/FM. AM also available. Fine working condition and looks good. From
smoking home, and has lingering smoke smell. Main and sub receivers, and
full duplex and satellite modes available. Great all-around do everything
radio. Comes with hand mic, DC power cord, manual, inner and outer original
boxes. $650 local pickup (NNJ 07082), or shipping extra. Sold as-is due to
parts swappers, but can demo if picked up.  Thanks, Bennett KO2OK


From k9qho67622 at comcast.net  Thu May 10 16:24:46 2018
From: k9qho67622 at comcast.net (MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:24:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
Message-ID: <741726729.76409.1525969487065@connect.xfinity.com>

John (vk2fak), 


You said "Is there any details on the web about this type of helix, have never seen
it with a ring reflector in books."


I've also never seen a helix ring reflector design in any antenna books. My first home brew helix followed  AF9Y's design exactly from his site http://www.af9y.com/helix.htm which used a ring reflector. 


My second build did not use PVC boom (too heavy) or copper tubing (too expensive) but a 1 in. square metal boom and aluminum clothes line wire. I kept the ring reflector.


This is the first time I've seen two reflectors used. It would be interesting to discover who NASA's supplier is for this antenna and see the spec's.


Regards, Mike

From k9qho67622 at comcast.net  Thu May 10 16:34:37 2018
From: k9qho67622 at comcast.net (MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:34:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
Message-ID: <1300494747.76809.1525970077358@connect.xfinity.com>

John (vk2fak), 


You said "Is there any details on the web about this type of helix, have never seen
it with a ring reflector in books."


I've also never seen a helix ring reflector design in any antenna books. My first home brew helix followed  AF9Y's design exactly from his site http://www.af9y.com/helix.htm which used a ring reflector. 


My second build did not use PVC boom (too heavy) or copper tubing (too expensive) but a 1 in. square metal boom and aluminum clothes line wire. I kept the ring reflector.


This is the first time I've seen two reflectors used. It would be interesting to discover who NASA's supplier is for this antenna and see the spec's.


Regards, Mike

From m-arai at a.email.ne.jp  Thu May 10 17:26:18 2018
From: m-arai at a.email.ne.jp (Masahiro Arai)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 02:26:18 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
Message-ID: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>

JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
May.
The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw


The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
(Turk).
IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.

1KUNS-PF
  3U CubeSat
  Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
 
http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf

UBAKUSAT
  3U CubeSat
  Beacon 427.225MHz
  TLM downlink 437.325MHz
  Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
                     uplink   145.940-145.990MHz


JN1GKZ   Masa  Tokyo Japan

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu May 10 17:39:35 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 13:39:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
In-Reply-To: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqWP0GvdUX1Rw5LnqLJNLrA2-V2A1khQTn4tJFpM4MWCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Irazu also operates on an amateur frequency: 436.500 MHz.

http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/informal_detail.php?serialnum=606

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Masahiro Arai <m-arai at a.email.ne.jp> wrote:

> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
> May.
> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
>
>
> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
> (Turk).
> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
>
> 1KUNS-PF
>  3U CubeSat
>  Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
>
> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engin
> eering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>
> UBAKUSAT
>  3U CubeSat
>  Beacon 427.225MHz
>  TLM downlink 437.325MHz
>  Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
>                     uplink   145.940-145.990MHz
>
>
> JN1GKZ   Masa  Tokyo Japan
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Thu May 10 21:29:42 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:29:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release no. 18-06
Message-ID: <8770737BD99E4CD28D5D445EE42D3A40@DHJ>

 


                                         ARISS NEWS RELEASE                     

no.  18-06                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                          

May 10, 2018                                                                                                                

David Jordan, AA4KN

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org

 

ARISS HamVideo Currently Not Transmitting

 

The HamVideo digital Amateur Television (DATV) transmitter aboard the International Space Station (ISS) Columbus module recently ceased transmitting. The unit's indicators show it is functioning but its signal cannot be detected on the ground. The ARISS team's efforts to get the transmitter working again have been unsuccessful, thus far.

 

A series of steps are currently being undertaken to try to diagnose the problem. However, if an actual failure occurred, only a ground-based evaluation will fully diagnose the problem. The ARISS International team is working diligently to bring HamVideo back to full operation as soon as practical. We have started coordination with our space agency partners and with our sponsors to expeditiously troubleshoot the issue on-board and, if necessary, troubleshoot and repair the device on the ground.  

 

The HamVideo DATV transmitter has become a very valuable educational asset that astronauts enjoy employing as part of the ARISS connection.  Astronauts Tim Peake, KG5BVI; Paolo Nespoli, IZ0JPA; and Thomas Pesquet, FX0ISS, regularly utilized HamTV to inspire students and educators during ARISS contacts scheduled as part of these astronauts' ISS missions. Australian and European HamTV ground stations have been operational for receiving and distributing DATV signals from the ISS, and in the US, HamTV stations are under development.  Several hams in Japan have set up ground stations that have received HamVideo.

 

As more information becomes available on the HamVideo status and on any potential repair plans, we will keep you informed through future news releases and via messages on the ARISS web site www.ariss.org.

 

ARISS relies on its sustaining sponsors, along with many devoted individual donors and ARISS volunteers, to support the day-to-day operations and to help with related expenses. These supporters are instrumental in developing and funding the build of our new radio systems. For everyone interested in helping ARISS inspire, engage and educate youth, hams and the public through amateur radio on the ISS, please donate to ARISS at www.amsat.org or www.ariss.org.

 

 

 

 

About ARISS

 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

            

 

Join us on Facebook:  Amateur Radio on the ISS (ARISS)

Follow us on Twitter:  ARISS_status

 


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From rjlawn at gmail.com  Thu May 10 23:26:36 2018
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 23:26:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Flex 5000A V/U for sale
Message-ID: <CADQmrTE13oc_tzZ=MHsi_GBULxpB2z-ufAdDFC3sPmn0DC7zXw@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone is interested I?ve posted full details on QTH.com under my call.
Has ATU as well.

73
Rick, W2JAZ
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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Fri May 11 04:21:47 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 00:21:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with University of the
	Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines
Message-ID: <767A64B0EC2A4839AC78CAA424002EAF@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at University of the Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines on 15 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:22 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

The UP Integrated School (est. 1976) is the laboratory school of the UP College of Education. It offers an integrated curriculum from Kindergarten to Grade 12. It is one of the country's pioneer integrated schools and has been offering an integrated curriculum from Kindergarten to Grade 10 since its inception until the mandatory implementation of the Department of Education's K-12 program in 2012. The UPIS is the product of the merging of three schools whose functions it inherited. These are the UP High School (est. 1916), the UP Elementary School (est. 1936), and the UP Preparatory High School (est. 1954).

 

Age of students is 14 and 15.

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1. What are the challenges that astronauts face while working inside the 

   international space station? How are these issues addressed?

2. What can you give as an advice or words of inspiration to young aspiring 

   Filipinos dreaming of becoming involved in NASA's (or International) space 

   programs?

3. The Philippines is one of the most disaster-prone (typhoon, earthquakes, 

   and volcanic eruptions) countries in the world. What researches does the 

   ISS have to help these countries (or the Philippines, in particular) 

   minimize risks related to such disasters?

4. Which of the recent breakthroughs/discoveries in your research in the ISS 

   is your team's favorite and why?

5. Given the latest discoveries/experiments your team has done in the ISS, 

   which field in science and technology do you think has the most promising 

   advancement in the upcoming years?

6. How can the youth have a more active participation in space programs? 

   (Skills training, seminars, etc.)

7. How long does it take to get use to the weightlessness in space?

8. What did you do before you became an astronaut?

9. Compared to Earth-based monitoring programs, how does the ISS facilities 

   and equipment help in monitoring environmental disasters?

10. What can the Philippines do if it wants to participate in international 

    space programs?

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

?     Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

?     To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

  TBD

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 


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From fredy at fredy.gr  Fri May 11 06:31:58 2018
From: fredy at fredy.gr (Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 09:31:58 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
In-Reply-To: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>

Thanks for the info!

Adding some details and one question.

IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]

The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?

73,
fredy

[1] https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
[2]
http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
[3]
http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
[4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
[5]
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/

On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
> May.
> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
> 
> 
> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
> (Turk).
> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
> 
> 1KUNS-PF
> ?3U CubeSat
> ?Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
> 
> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
> 
> 
> UBAKUSAT
> ?3U CubeSat
> ?Beacon 427.225MHz
> ?TLM downlink 437.325MHz
> ?Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
> ??????????????????? uplink?? 145.940-145.990MHz
> 
> 
> JN1GKZ?? Masa? Tokyo Japan
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 

From aslanr at itu.edu.tr  Fri May 11 07:04:08 2018
From: aslanr at itu.edu.tr (Rustem Aslan)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:04:08 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
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Follow TM from ubakusat not beacon. Regards 

Rustem

Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis <fredy at fredy.gr> ?unlar? yazd? (11 May 2018 15:31):

> Thanks for the info!
> 
> Adding some details and one question.
> 
> IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
> UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
> 1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]
> 
> The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
> that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
> refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?
> 
> 73,
> fredy
> 
> [1] https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
> [2]
> http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
> [3]
> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
> [4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
> [5]
> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/
> 
>> On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
>> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
>> May.
>> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
>> 
>> 
>> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
>> (Turk).
>> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
>> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
>> 
>> 1KUNS-PF
>>  3U CubeSat
>>  Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
>> 
>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>> 
>> 
>> UBAKUSAT
>>  3U CubeSat
>>  Beacon 427.225MHz
>>  TLM downlink 437.325MHz
>>  Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
>>                     uplink   145.940-145.990MHz
>> 
>> 
>> JN1GKZ   Masa  Tokyo Japan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri May 11 08:23:33 2018
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 09:23:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
In-Reply-To: <F8FB1FA2-93DE-4D15-B4B5-E4C6E4B9AFC6@itu.edu.tr>
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Hi Fredy,

Apologies for the long standing typo on the webpage..I shall sack the 
proof reader!

73

Graham

G3VZV


On 11/05/2018 08:04, Rustem Aslan wrote:
> Follow TM from ubakusat not beacon. Regards
>
> Rustem
>
> Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis <fredy at fredy.gr> ?unlar? yazd? (11 May 2018 15:31):
>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> Adding some details and one question.
>>
>> IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
>> UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
>> 1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]
>>
>> The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
>> that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
>> refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?
>>
>> 73,
>> fredy
>>
>> [1] https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
>> [2]
>> http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
>> [3]
>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>> [4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
>> [5]
>> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/
>>
>>> On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
>>> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
>>> May.
>>> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
>>>
>>>
>>> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
>>> (Turk).
>>> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
>>> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
>>>
>>> 1KUNS-PF
>>>   3U CubeSat
>>>   Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
>>>
>>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> UBAKUSAT
>>>   3U CubeSat
>>>   Beacon 427.225MHz
>>>   TLM downlink 437.325MHz
>>>   Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
>>>                      uplink   145.940-145.990MHz
>>>
>>>
>>> JN1GKZ   Masa  Tokyo Japan
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
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From fredy at fredy.gr  Fri May 11 09:22:53 2018
From: fredy at fredy.gr (Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:22:53 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
In-Reply-To: <4535354b-e460-d3df-9b3c-6b4b8d28f0da@btinternet.com>
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Hey Graham,

So, it is 437.225 MHz. Thanks for making it clear!

73,
fredy

On 05/11/2018 11:23 AM, Graham Shirville wrote:
> Hi Fredy,
> 
> Apologies for the long standing typo on the webpage..I shall sack the
> proof reader!
> 
> 73
> 
> Graham
> 
> G3VZV
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2018 08:04, Rustem Aslan wrote:
>> Follow TM from ubakusat not beacon. Regards
>>
>> Rustem
>>
>> Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis <fredy at fredy.gr> ?unlar? yazd? (11 May 2018
>> 15:31):
>>
>>> Thanks for the info!
>>>
>>> Adding some details and one question.
>>>
>>> IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
>>> UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
>>> 1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]
>>>
>>> The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
>>> that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
>>> refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> fredy
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
>>> [2]
>>> http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
>>>
>>> [3]
>>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>>>
>>> [4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
>>> [5]
>>> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
>>>> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
>>>> May.
>>>> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
>>>> (Turk).
>>>> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
>>>> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
>>>>
>>>> 1KUNS-PF
>>>> ? 3U CubeSat
>>>> ? Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
>>>>
>>>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> UBAKUSAT
>>>> ? 3U CubeSat
>>>> ? Beacon 427.225MHz
>>>> ? TLM downlink 437.325MHz
>>>> ? Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
>>>> ???????????????????? uplink?? 145.940-145.990MHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> JN1GKZ?? Masa? Tokyo Japan
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
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>> _______________________________________________
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> 

From fredy at fredy.gr  Fri May 11 12:48:46 2018
From: fredy at fredy.gr (Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:48:46 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
In-Reply-To: <ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
	<ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
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Following the latest ISS TLE it seems (need confirmation from the
satellites teams) that:

IRAZU is alive and transmit FSK9k6 [1]

UBAKUSAT not heard yet [2] but the only observation until now was
probably too close to deployment.

1KUNS seems to be alive but it doesn't seem to transmit FSK9k6 [3][4]
except if this is a drifted signal from UBAKUSAT that should transmit
+25KHz from the observed frequency.

I guess soon we will need new tle, please share any news/updates.

Thank you,
fredy

[1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/133122/
[2]
https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=1&good=1&bad=1&unvetted=1&failed=1&norad=99998&observer=&station=
[3] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/133268/
[4] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/133269/

On 05/11/2018 09:31 AM, Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis wrote:
> Thanks for the info!
> 
> Adding some details and one question.
> 
> IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
> UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
> 1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]
> 
> The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
> that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
> refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?
> 
> 73,
> fredy
> 
> [1] https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
> [2]
> http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
> [3]
> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
> [4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
> [5]
> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/
> 
> On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
>> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
>> May.
>> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
>>
>>
>> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
>> (Turk).
>> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
>> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
>>
>> 1KUNS-PF
>> ?3U CubeSat
>> ?Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
>>
>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>>
>>
>> UBAKUSAT
>> ?3U CubeSat
>> ?Beacon 427.225MHz
>> ?TLM downlink 437.325MHz
>> ?Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
>> ??????????????????? uplink?? 145.940-145.990MHz
>>
>>
>> JN1GKZ?? Masa? Tokyo Japan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From aslanr at itu.edu.tr  Fri May 11 13:31:13 2018
From: aslanr at itu.edu.tr (Rustem Aslan)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 22:31:13 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
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Ubakusat starts transmiting 4 hours later

Rustem

Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis <fredy at fredy.gr> ?unlar? yazd? (11 May 2018 21:48):

> Following the latest ISS TLE it seems (need confirmation from the
> satellites teams) that:
> 
> IRAZU is alive and transmit FSK9k6 [1]
> 
> UBAKUSAT not heard yet [2] but the only observation until now was
> probably too close to deployment.
> 
> 1KUNS seems to be alive but it doesn't seem to transmit FSK9k6 [3][4]
> except if this is a drifted signal from UBAKUSAT that should transmit
> +25KHz from the observed frequency.
> 
> I guess soon we will need new tle, please share any news/updates.
> 
> Thank you,
> fredy
> 
> [1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/133122/
> [2]
> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=1&good=1&bad=1&unvetted=1&failed=1&norad=99998&observer=&station=
> [3] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/133268/
> [4] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/133269/
> 
>> On 05/11/2018 09:31 AM, Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis wrote:
>> Thanks for the info!
>> 
>> Adding some details and one question.
>> 
>> IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
>> UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
>> 1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]
>> 
>> The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
>> that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
>> refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?
>> 
>> 73,
>> fredy
>> 
>> [1] https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
>> [2]
>> http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
>> [3]
>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>> [4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
>> [5]
>> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/
>> 
>>> On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
>>> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
>>> May.
>>> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
>>> (Turk).
>>> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
>>> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
>>> 
>>> 1KUNS-PF
>>>  3U CubeSat
>>>  Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
>>> 
>>> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
>>> 
>>> 
>>> UBAKUSAT
>>>  3U CubeSat
>>>  Beacon 427.225MHz
>>>  TLM downlink 437.325MHz
>>>  Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
>>>                     uplink   145.940-145.990MHz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> JN1GKZ   Masa  Tokyo Japan
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From vimone at alice.it  Fri May 11 14:41:08 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:41:08 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] StaPC Satellite list
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPvx8Pq2VzhCiymcLoyiXekBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hi Folks,

I am going crazy to set the list of the satellites.

What I do is:

I go in the standard group and select the satellites for the Amateur.txt
click on OK

Re enter in the Satellite list and select Cubesat.txt.

I find already some satellites than I try to put other ones. click on OK

Re enter in the Satellite list and get back in the Amateur.txt list

And I can see that some satellites are disappeared from the selected list.

Is that normal?

How I have to do to select different satellites in each list?

Thanks

 

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From pconver at gmail.com  Fri May 11 16:03:43 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 13:03:43 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] StaPC Satellite list
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPvx8Pq2VzhCiymcLoyiXekBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPvx8Pq2VzhCiymcLoyiXekBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKnYnQ_mrf0ff639g1i02EXhe7P=OBopoSsaXC7ug0QF9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vincenzo,

On http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt is a list of all available Satellites, you
can use or check.

It is updated 6 times a day and in use from http://amsat.org.ar/pass

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Vincenzo Mone <vimone at alice.it> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I am going crazy to set the list of the satellites.
>
> What I do is:
>
> I go in the standard group and select the satellites for the Amateur.txt
> click on OK
>
> Re enter in the Satellite list and select Cubesat.txt.
>
> I find already some satellites than I try to put other ones. click on OK
>
> Re enter in the Satellite list and get back in the Amateur.txt list
>
> And I can see that some satellites are disappeared from the selected list.
>
> Is that normal?
>
> How I have to do to select different satellites in each list?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 73's de Enzo IK8OZV
>
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>
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
>
> WinBollet BetaTester
>
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>
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Fri May 11 16:32:50 2018
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 18:32:50 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] StaPC Satellite list
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPvx8Pq2VzhCiymcLoyiXekBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAPvx8Pq2VzhCiymcLoyiXekBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
Message-ID: <0b83ba78-c730-201d-2694-a3c73ee6575d@t-online.de>

Hi Vincenzo,
when you selected the satellites for group? 'Standard' from amateur.txt 
as source file click the OK button of menu 'Satellites'. That will save 
the list and the name and path of amateur.txt for that group. At future 
starts the program will track the same satellites using amateur.txt as 
source file.

When you change the source file the program will only leave the 
satellites in the list for which also the new source file contains data. 
If you click OK the program will save the new list and the new source 
file name.

To configure another group open the groups window (click on the empty 
area of the main window right or left of the frequency window) and 
double click on the name of the? group you want to track or to 
configure, say Cubesat. The program will now track group Cubesat. Open 
menu 'Satellites', choose a source file - say cubesat.txt - and select 
the satellites you want to add to that group. Then click OK? to save the 
cubesat list and name and path of file cubesat.txt.
Do the same with the other groups.
To have an overview over the satellites contained in the chosen group 
leave the Countdown window constantly open.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 11.05.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Vincenzo Mone:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am going crazy to set the list of the satellites.
>
> What I do is:
>
> I go in the standard group and select the satellites for the Amateur.txt
> click on OK
>
> Re enter in the Satellite list and select Cubesat.txt.
>
> I find already some satellites than I try to put other ones. click on OK
>
> Re enter in the Satellite list and get back in the Amateur.txt list
>
> And I can see that some satellites are disappeared from the selected list.
>
> Is that normal?
>
> How I have to do to select different satellites in each list?
>
> Thanks
>
>   
>
> 73's de Enzo IK8OZV
>
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
>
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
>
> WinBollet BetaTester
>
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
>
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>        *************************************
>
>        *******    GSM  +39 328 7110193    *******
>
>        ******       SMS  +39 328 7110193      ******
>
>        *************************************
>
>   
>
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From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Fri May 11 16:24:32 2018
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott Harvey)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:24:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three CubeSats deploy from ISS 1030z 11th May
In-Reply-To: <ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
	<ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
Message-ID: <1865145620.217137.1526055872940@mail.yahoo.com>

I noticed that as well.? I think it was probably a typo.? I am pretty sure it is 435.225 but will need to monitor both frequencies after deployment.??
73, Scott, KA7FVV
 President - KBARA ?
www.kbara.org 
 Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
http://www.ka7fvv.net 

    On Thursday, May 10, 2018, 11:57:12 PM PDT, Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis <fredy at fredy.gr> wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the info!

Adding some details and one question.

IRAZU telemetry is FSK9k6 at 436.500 MHz source: [1]
UBAKUSAT telemetry is GMSK9k6 at 437.325 MHz source: [2]
1KUNS-PF telemetry is FSK9k6 at 437.300 MHz source: [3]

The question is about UBAKUSAT, in some sites like IARU's one [4] refers
that CW is at 427.225 MHz, while in other sites like amsat-uk's one [5]
refers it at 437.225. Any idea which is the right one?

73,
fredy

[1] https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/i/irazu
[2]
http://www.tamsat.org.tr/tr/ubakusat-amator-radyo-telemetri-ve-transponder-bilgileri/
[3]
http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
[4] http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=526
[5]
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/10/linear-transponder-cubesat-iss-deployment/

On 05/10/2018 08:26 PM, Masahiro Arai wrote:
> JAXA announced three CubeSats will deploy from ISS at 1030-1040z 11th
> May.
> The live broadcast will start at 1900z on YouTube.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRQ1Nljuiw
> 
> 
> The satellites are Irazu(Costa Rica), 1KUNS-PF(Kenya) and UBAKUSAT
> (Turk).
> IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows 1KUNS-PF and
> UBAKUSAT are operate on amateur radio band.
> 
> 1KUNS-PF
> ?3U CubeSat
> ?Digital downlink 9600bps 437.300 MHz
> 
> http://engineering.uonbi.ac.ke/sites/default/files/cae/engineering/engineering/1KUNS-PF_Cubesat_1.0_rev3.pdf
> 
> 
> UBAKUSAT
> ?3U CubeSat
> ?Beacon 427.225MHz
> ?TLM downlink 437.325MHz
> ?Linear Transponder downlink 435.200-435.250MHz
> ??????????????????? uplink?? 145.940-145.990MHz
> 
> 
> JN1GKZ?? Masa? Tokyo Japan
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From graham at shirville.com  Fri May 11 17:17:01 2018
From: graham at shirville.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 18:17:01 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode change
Message-ID: <713ba636-e309-487c-59d9-b495c5d7b205@shirville.com>

Hi All,

Just to report that AO73/FUNcube-1 is now in continuous Amateur mode 
with the transponder on for the weekend.

73

Graham


From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Fri May 11 21:57:39 2018
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 17:57:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA needs amateur help with IMAGE spacecraft recovery
Message-ID: <60dbd80a2a115c10689ef2c7e330e215.squirrel@alum.wpi.edu>

The following was seen on the seesat-l mailing list.  Drop me a note off
list for Scott's e-mail address.

73 de KM1P Joe

*******BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE*********

From: Scott Tilley via Seesat-l <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:49:49 -0700
Hi All

Earlier this week I again recovered IMAGE on S-band.  The spacecraft
started a series of eclipses and the first one appeared to cause IMAGE
to reboot and start transmitting again.  After the initial recovery in
January of this year IMAGE faded away in late February.

NASA is now trying to reestablish control of the spacecraft and has been
actively attempting with some success to have the spacecraft accept
commands over the last couple of days.

A number of phenomenon have been observed that has challenged the ground
controllers to understand what is going on with the spacecraft and they
have asked for amateurs to contribute s-band signal data particularly as
the spacecraft passes through eclipse.

If you have access to equipment and are suitability located to
contribute observations please contact me for more information and
support in sharing your observations with NASA.

Thanks,

Scott Tilley



From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Sat May 12 05:53:06 2018
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 05:53:06 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] UBAKUSAT
In-Reply-To: <a928bdab-a9ea-8e24-c6a8-b93964b6d9c1@fredy.gr>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
	<ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
	<F8FB1FA2-93DE-4D15-B4B5-E4C6E4B9AFC6@itu.edu.tr>
	<4535354b-e460-d3df-9b3c-6b4b8d28f0da@btinternet.com>
	<a928bdab-a9ea-8e24-c6a8-b93964b6d9c1@fredy.gr>
Message-ID: <6fe90860-c5c1-c00a-e1c5-3fbe41ba2d0e@wanadoo.fr>

   Received around 0500 UTC orbit nr 12 (?) 437.325 MHz GMSK 9k6, a 
frame about each minute. Nothing from IRAZU nor 1KUNS-PF till now.
   At the same time, near IRAZU, was something, narrow, looking like 
1K2, about 437.300.

   Have a nice day !

   Jean-Pierre F5YG

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat May 12 06:57:06 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 02:57:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UBAKUSAT
In-Reply-To: <6fe90860-c5c1-c00a-e1c5-3fbe41ba2d0e@wanadoo.fr>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
	<ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
	<F8FB1FA2-93DE-4D15-B4B5-E4C6E4B9AFC6@itu.edu.tr>
	<4535354b-e460-d3df-9b3c-6b4b8d28f0da@btinternet.com>
	<a928bdab-a9ea-8e24-c6a8-b93964b6d9c1@fredy.gr>
	<6fe90860-c5c1-c00a-e1c5-3fbe41ba2d0e@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOYD8JsmxruRArjUy-b=1=OEJwTj=Nt5kZo5HD2Xwh=9xg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jean-Pierre!

I assume that's 1KUNS-PF on 437.300 but as many others are saying on
Twitter, the signal looks like 1k2 BPSK (USB).

However, as of the time I'm writing this, it doesn't look like it's
decoding for anyone, including myself.  I even tried it with LSB "just in
case".

My packets were fairly strong and the 9k6 FSK signals from Irazu (436.500)
and UBAKUSAT (437.325) decoded just fine.

So, as for the transmissions on 437.300, if they are 1k2 BPSK then perhaps
there is some corruption.  No doubt we'll learn more in coming days as the
signals are looked at by some in the community who have the knowledge to
dig deeper into the packets.

73!

-Scott,  K4KDR


=======================

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:53 AM, Jean-Pierre Godet <godetj at wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

>   Received around 0500 UTC orbit nr 12 (?) 437.325 MHz GMSK 9k6, a frame
> about each minute. Nothing from IRAZU nor 1KUNS-PF till now.
>   At the same time, near IRAZU, was something, narrow, looking like 1K2,
> about 437.300.
>
>   Have a nice day !
>
>   Jean-Pierre F5YG

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat May 12 17:02:35 2018
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 11:02:35 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
Message-ID: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>

I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an
extended period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before
they're worthless?

   Ron VE8RT

-- 
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sat May 12 18:34:41 2018
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 14:34:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>

For everything other than the ISS and lower, weeks. For sats in 600km and
higher, probably months if you are manual tuning and pointing.

YMMV.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 1:03 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?

I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an extended
period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before they're worthless?

   Ron VE8RT

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From kontakt at sp3qfe.net  Sat May 12 18:50:45 2018
From: kontakt at sp3qfe.net (Armand SP3QFE)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 20:50:45 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
	<005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>

Hello Everyone,

By the way...
How to get the TLE from the past? eg. to check something form the past 
for some date in the past... such as 30 Apr. 2012?

73, Armand SP3QFE


On 2018-05-12 20:34, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> For everything other than the ISS and lower, weeks. For sats in 600km 
> and
> higher, probably months if you are manual tuning and pointing.
> 
> YMMV.
> 
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 1:03 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
> 
> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an 
> extended
> period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before they're 
> worthless?
> 
>    Ron VE8RT
> 
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Sat May 12 18:28:49 2018
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 13:28:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnCoAj8bsOXSobuqV3raAw4Hwiup+NDeVRLB4V2Vhdwz0g@mail.gmail.com>

Depends on what your margin for error is. In other words, define
"worthless."

In general, I update keps weekly. But for most LEOs and casual ham
operation, you could probably go 90 days or more and still find most birds
with your Arrow and handheld within a few minutes.

For ISS or other spacecraft with the ability to adjust the orbit with
thrusters, etc., you'd only be good until the next orbit boost.
--
Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca> wrote:

> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an
> extended period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before
> they're worthless?
>
>    Ron VE8RT
>
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat May 12 19:45:23 2018
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 13:45:23 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use? - got it, thanks!
In-Reply-To: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <20180512134523.efcbe0923061567d814c333a@yknwt.ca>

I had several replies, the information was very helpful.  

I'm in the process of putting together a station from what I have on
hand, but was curious whether I could find the birds if I couldin't get
online for a few weeks.

   Thanks!

    Ron VE8RT

On Sat, 12 May 2018 11:02:35 -0600
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca> wrote:

> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an
> extended period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before
> they're worthless?
> 
>    Ron VE8RT
> 
> -- 
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Sat May 12 20:13:31 2018
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 16:13:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
	<005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>
	<aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>
Message-ID: <d15199dd-f584-409b-0d24-e453e7a60174@alum.wpi.edu>

On 5/12/2018 2:50 PM, Armand SP3QFE wrote:
>
> How to get the TLE from the past? eg. to check something form the past
> for some date in the past... such as 30 Apr. 2012?
>
See AMSAT's Keps mailing list archive.? It has all the bulletins back to
2006.

http://amsat.org/pipermail/keps/

April 26 2012 is here:

http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/keps/2012/000654.html

de KM1P Joe


From kontakt at sp3qfe.net  Sat May 12 22:21:09 2018
From: kontakt at sp3qfe.net (Armand SP3QFE)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 00:21:09 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <d15199dd-f584-409b-0d24-e453e7a60174@alum.wpi.edu>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
	<005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>
	<aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>
	<d15199dd-f584-409b-0d24-e453e7a60174@alum.wpi.edu>
Message-ID: <df9974a43b9e126e138218f4c7a2f8e8@sp3qfe.net>

BIG TKS!

On 2018-05-12 22:13, Joe Fitzgerald wrote:
> On 5/12/2018 2:50 PM, Armand SP3QFE wrote:
>> 
>> How to get the TLE from the past? eg. to check something form the past
>> for some date in the past... such as 30 Apr. 2012?
>> 
> See AMSAT's Keps mailing list archive.? It has all the bulletins back 
> to
> 2006.
> 
> http://amsat.org/pipermail/keps/
> 
> April 26 2012 is here:
> 
> http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/keps/2012/000654.html
> 
> de KM1P Joe
> 
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From fredy at fredy.gr  Sat May 12 23:21:27 2018
From: fredy at fredy.gr (Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 02:21:27 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <1c03efb4-37d7-998f-f3f4-92319247d323@fredy.gr>

Recently it was posted in libre.space community discourse[1] by cgbsat
an interesting analysis about TLE of a couple of satellites and what
delays you should expect in observation starting time when you use TLE
0-10 days old.

Delays vary depending on satellite, difference could be from some
seconds to some minutes (in ISS case).

I'm very interested if there are similar analyses.

73,
fredy

[1] https://community.libre.space/t/tle-updates-and-scheduling/1987/4

On 05/12/2018 08:02 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an
> extended period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before
> they're worthless?
> 
>    Ron VE8RT
> 

From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com  Sun May 13 00:05:02 2018
From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 19:05:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>	<005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>
	<aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>
Message-ID: <001801d3ea4e$0a91eac0$1fb5c040$@mypbmail.com>

I have every AMSAT TLE sent since October 8, 1993 on a backup hard drive.

Ray Hoad
WA5QGD
AMSAT-NA Orbital Elements Manager


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Armand
SP3QFE
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 13:51
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?

Hello Everyone,

By the way...
How to get the TLE from the past? eg. to check something form the past 
for some date in the past... such as 30 Apr. 2012?

73, Armand SP3QFE


On 2018-05-12 20:34, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> For everything other than the ISS and lower, weeks. For sats in 600km 
> and
> higher, probably months if you are manual tuning and pointing.
> 
> YMMV.
> 
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 1:03 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
> 
> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an 
> extended
> period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before they're 
> worthless?
> 
>    Ron VE8RT
> 
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun May 13 00:58:18 2018
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 20:58:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-133 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAM5+sovHS5ycN1tnv6Go6eMSoYOTqWOr58k6d11pToHwJU1OSw@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-133

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

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*               DON'T FORGET THAT IT IS MOTHER'S DAY               *
*    AMSAT at HAMVENTION May 18-20 booth (1007-1010 & 1107-1110)   *
*    AMSAT ForumSaturday, May 19 in Forum room 4 at 2:45-3:45 PM   *
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In this edition:

* Dr. Alan B. Johnston (PhD), KU2Y, Named AMSAT Vice-President,
  Educational Relations
* Jerry Buxton, N?JY CubeSat Presentation at Princeton Orbital
  Initiative
* ARISS HamVideo Currently Not Transmitting
* AMSAT at Hamvention 2018 -- 3rd and Final Call for Volunteers
* Work the AMSAT Hamvention Demo Station!
* Video Streaming of RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) Flight Model Testing
* AMSAT Activities at Hamvention 2018
* Tips For Prompt Message Posting To The AMSAT-BB
* Three CubeSats with Amateur Radio Payloads Deployed from ISS
* Satellite-Image_26113 Re-recovered... Call for amateur help!
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-133.01
ANS-133 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 133.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
May 13, 2018
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-133.01


Dr. Alan B. Johnston (PhD), KU2Y, Named AMSAT Vice-President,
Educational Relations

AMSAT President, Joe Spier, K6WAO has announced the appointment of
Alan Johnston, KU2Y as AMSAT Vice President-Educational Relations.
Joe noted, "The subject of educational outreach is critical for the
mission of AMSAT. AMSAT continues creating structure for fulfilling
our mission component regarding education with projects such as the
CubeSat Simulator, ARISS, and outreach to primary, middle, high
school, and university programs. Alan has agreed to help AMSAT
establish and coordinate an education initiative program and serve as
AMSAT?s senior point of contact with outside organizations regarding
educational outreach."

Given the increasing importance of fulfilling education goals as
justification for launch opportunities, this is an important subject
for AMSAT.  Alan is aptly suited for this position as he is currently
an instructor at Rowan University in the Electrical and Computer
Engineering department, and has previously taught at Seattle
University, Illinois Institute of Technology, and Washington
University in St Louis. Alan is interested in using amateur radio
satellites to teach various engineering and scientific topics and
understands the teacher perspective as well. He holds an Amateur
Extra license and is also a published author.

[ANS Thanks Joe, K6WAO for the above information]


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Jerry Buxton, N?JY CubeSat Presentation at Princeton Orbital
Initiative

The Princeton Orbital Initiative, a student organization at
Princeton University, has invited Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice
President of Engineering, to share his experience with CubeSat
development and AMSAT's proven technology combining scientific
telemetry with on-orbit CubeSat voice operations, further
expanding AMSAT's educational outreach.

Dan Marlow, K2QM, a faculty advisor to the Princeton Orbital
Initiative (POI) says the group plans to build and fly a 3U CubeSat
with a goal to submit the project to the NASA CubeSat Launch
Initiative in November of this year. Marlow's invitation includes
meetings with Andrew Redd, the lead for the POI initiative and an
additional session with the graduate student chief designer of the
thruster that the Princeton Plasma Lab is planning.  Marlow said
the visit would also provide an opportunity to explore possible
mutual interest in partnering along the lines of some of the recent
Fox missions.

Buxton will give a presentation followed by a Q&A session, and
have informal sessions with the students. The students have begun
mechanical design of their 3U CubeSat and are looking to AMSAT
for advice and guidance for their electronic and communications
systems.

Buxton commented, "Many institutions have been calling us for input
on building CubeSats and to explore partnerships, and I think that
this opportunity from an Ivy League University reflects the high
level of standing and reputation AMSAT has established in the
satellite industry ... with a specialty in amateur radio satellites
of course."

AMSAT North America pioneered satellite operations in space and con-
tinues that tradition now based based on reliable CubeSat operations
with amateur radio transponders, hosting scientific experimental
missions sharing the amateur radio payload, successful multiple
CubeSat deployment, and orbital deployment from the International
Space Station.

AMSAT was an early participant with the NASA CubeSat Launch Initiative
in the Educational Launch of Nanosatellites (ELaNa) program and con-
tinues to have our launches selected based on our prior success and
exciting future technological, scientific and educational
opportunities.

[ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice President of Engineering
 for the above information]


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ARISS HamVideo Currently Not Transmitting

In the official ARISS News Release No.18-06 dated May 10, 2018,
ARISS PR Editor David Jordan, AA4KN, reports that the ARISS HamVideo
is not currently transmitting

The HamVideo digital Amateur Television (DATV) transmitter aboard
the International Space Station (ISS) Columbus module recently ceased
transmitting. The unit's indicators show it is functioning but its
signal cannot be detected on the ground. The ARISS team's efforts to
get the transmitter working again have been unsuccessful, thus far.

A series of steps are currently being undertaken to try to diagnose
the problem. However, if an actual failure occurred, only a ground-
based evaluation will fully diagnose the problem. The ARISS
International team is working diligently to bring HamVideo back to
full operation as soon as practical. We have started coordination
with our space agency partners and with our sponsors to expeditiously
troubleshoot the issue on-board and, if necessary, troubleshoot and
repair the device on the ground.

The HamVideo DATV transmitter has become a very valuable educational
asset that astronauts enjoy employing as part of the ARISS
connection.  Astronauts Tim Peake, KG5BVI; Paolo Nespoli, IZ0JPA; and
Thomas Pesquet, FX0ISS, regularly utilized HamTV to inspire students
and educators during ARISS contacts scheduled as part of these
astronauts' ISS missions. Australian and European HamTV ground
stations have been operational for receiving and distributing DATV
signals from the ISS, and in the US, HamTV stations are under
development.  Several hams in Japan have set up ground stations that
have received HamVideo.

As more information becomes available on the HamVideo status and on
any potential repair plans, we will keep you informed through future
news releases and via messages on the ARISS web site www.ariss.org.

[ANS thanks David AA4KN for the above information]


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AMSAT at Hamvention 2018 -- 3rd and Final Call for Volunteers

Hamvention 2018 in Xenia, Ohio is next week, May 18-20!

If you?ve been waiting to volunteer until you?d firmed up your
plans, we need to hear from you ASAP!

If you're an experienced satellite operator, we can use you
and your experience.

If you've never operated a satellite before, we can use your
help too.

Whether you're available for only a couple of hours or if you
can spend the entire weekend with us, your help would be greatly
appreciated.

Please send an e-mail to Phil, w1eme at amsat.org if you can help.
Thank you!

[Information provided by Phil Smith, W1EME Hamvention 2018 Team
 Leader]


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Work the AMSAT Hamvention Demo Station!

As previously announced, AMSAT will have it's traditional presence
at Hamvention this year, including a satellite demo station. The
demostation will operate under the AMSAT club callsign W3ZM/8.

We intend to be on most passes of voice satellites between 12:00 UTC
and 20:30 UTC on Friday, May 19th and Saturday, May 20th and between
12:00 UTC and 16:00 UTC on Sunday, May 21st. Hamvention is located in
the six digit gridsquare EM89aq.

As a reward for working the AMSAT demo station, individuals working
us will receive a digital certificate upon request. Please email
n8hm at amsat.org with your QSO details to receive a certificate.

If you are attending Hamvention, please stop by the demo station
outside Building 1!

[ANS thanks Paul N8HM for the above information]


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Video Streaming of RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) Flight Model Testing

AMSAT Vice President Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, has been
streaming live videos of testing of the flight model of RadFxSat-2
(Fox-1E) from Fox Labs in Granbury, TX.

You can view archived videos at:
https://www.twitch.tv/n0jy/videos/all.

The first two are also posted at:
https://tinyurl.com/ANS133-RadFxModelTest

Follow @N0JY on Twitter for future live streams of RadFxSat-2 flight
model testing.

RadFxSat-2 is scheduled to launch later this year on the ELaNa XX
mission aboard Virgin Orbit's LauncherOne air-launch-to-orbit system.
The satellite carries a 30 kHz wide V/u linear transponder and
radiation experiments for Vanderbilt University's Institute for Space
and Defense Electronics.

[ANS thanks Paul Stoetzer N8HM, and Jerry Buxton, N0JY for the above
 information]


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AMSAT Activities at Hamvention 2018

The 2018 Hamvention will be held on May 18-20, 2018 at Greene County
Fairground and Expo Center in Xenia Ohio. AMSAT is planning for an
exciting event.

May 17 ? Booth setup on Thursday.
May 18, 19, 20 ? AMSAT in full operation at Hamvention
May 20 ? Booth teardown on Sunday
AMSAT Booth
Stop by the AMSAT booth (1007-1010 & 1107-1110) Friday 9am-6pm,
Saturday 9am-5pm, Sunday 9am-1pm to meet board members, officers,
and active satellite operators. You?ll be able to ask questions and
see demonstrations of AMSAT?s current and upcoming technologies.

Well dressed satellite operators will look forward to picking up the
latest AMSAT ?swag? and fashions for 2018. Gould Smith?s book,
Getting Started With Amateur Satellites, has been updated for 2018
and will be on sale during the Hamvention.

AMSAT Forum
The AMSAT Forum at Hamvention 2018 will be held on Saturday, May 19
in Forum room 4 at 2:45-3:45 PM.

Amateur Satellite Demonstrations
Amateur Satellite operation demonstrations will be held every day
outside the main Maxim Hall (Building 1 or E1) entrance. AMSAT will
be be demonstrating actual contacts with the operational amateur
satellites. We especially invite youth to make a contact via an
amateur satellite. All are invited to observe, participate and ask
questions. Satellite pass times will be posted at the AMSAT booth and
in the demo area.

Annual AMSAT ?Dinner at Tickets? Party
The annual AMSAT ?Dinner at Tickets? party will be held Thursday at
1800 EDT at Tickets Pub & Eatery at 7 W. Main St, Fairborn, OH. Feast
on a great selection of Greek and American food and great company! No
program or speaker, just good conversation. Food can be ordered from
the menu, drinks (beer, wine, sodas and iced tea) are available at
the bar. Leave room for dessert, there?s an in-house ice cream shop!
Come as you are. Bring some friends and have a great time the night
before Hamvention.

AMSAT/TAPR Banquet
The twelfth annual AMSAT/TAPR Banquet will be held at the Kohler
Presidential Center on Friday at 1830 EDT. This dinner is always a
highlight of the AMSAT and TAPR activities during the Dayton
Hamvention. We are pleased to announce that Jeri Ellsworth, AI6TK
will be our speaker. Jeri will present her innovative ideas and
adventures in Amateur Radio.

Banquet tickets are no longer available
There will be no tickets to pick up at the AMSAT booth.
Tickets purchased on-line will be maintained on a list with check-in
at the door of the banquet center.

AMSAT Announces Hamvention Forum Speaker Line Up
The AMSAT Forum at Hamvention 2018 will be held on Saturday, May 19
in Forum room 4 at 2:45-3:45 PM. The speaker and topic line up
includes:

Moderator: Keith Baker, KB1SF / VA3KSF
?AMSAT Status Report? by Joseph Spier, K6WAO, AMSAT-NA President,
who will highlight recent activities within AMSAT and discuss some of
our challenges, accomplishments, projects, and any late breaking news.
?AMSAT Engineering Program? by Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT-NA Vice
President for Engineering, will talk about the Fox-1 and Golf
(Greater Orbit Larger Footprint) Projects.
?ARISS Report 2018? by Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, AMSAT-NA Vice President
for Human Spaceflight will discus ARISS? ?Next Generation ARISS Radio
System? on the International Space Station.
AMSAT/TAPR Banquet Speaker ? Jeri Ellsworth, AI6TK
The twelfth annual joint AMSAT/TAPR Banquet will be held on Friday,
May 18 at the Kohler Presidential Banquet Center, 4572 Presidential
Way, Kettering, OH 45429 (just south of Dayton). Doors open at 6:30
PM for a cash bar with the buffet dinner served at 7:00 PM.

Jeri Ellsworth, AI6TK, will present on her innovative ideas and
adventures in Amateur Radio. Jeri is an American entrepreneur, self-
taught engineer, and an autodidact computer chip designer and
inventor.

She gained notoriety in 2004 for creating a complete Commodore 64
system on a chip housed within a joystick, called C64 Direct-to-TV.
That ?computer in a joystick? could run 30 video games from the early
1980?s, and at peak, sold over 70,000 units in a single day via the
QVC shopping channel.

Ellsworth co-founded CastAR (formerly Technical Illusions) in 2013
and stayed with the company until its closure on June 26, 2017. In
2016, she passed all three amateur radio exams, earned her Amateur
Extra license, and received the AI6TK callsign. This has now launched
new adventures into Amateur Radio. She has been featured in January
2017 QST and in YouTube videos from Quartzfest earlier this year.
Jeri has been given a free hand to speak on whatever topic she wishes
(as long as it?s amateur radio, somewhat).

[ANS thanks The AMSAT Office for the above information]


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Tips For Prompt Message Posting To The AMSAT-BB

Recently, there have been several posts, including some time
sensitive roving information, which have been held for moderator
release because they were sent by list members from accounts other
than the one used to register with the list.  While the moderators
are happy to release these messages, it can result in significant
delay.  Since there are many new members here, below is a guide
which was published two years ago.

Tips for prompt message posting.

People sometimes post time-sensitive messages to AMSAT-BB. Examples
are last minute grid activities, unexpected satellite mode changes,
requests for critically important telemetry, etc. These normally go
through promptly, but occasionally get held for two basic reasons:

While AMSAT-BB is an open list, that means it is open for
membership, not posting. In order to post to the list, it normally
must be from the same account you originally registered. For
instance, if you registered from your home account, and post from
your office account, it will normally be held for release by a
moderator. Likewise, some people have all their email forwarded to a
single account from which they reply. We can create a filter to pass
the second address, but that is not automatically done on the first
instance, and does require moderator action.

AMSAT-BB receives many pieces of spam for each legitimate message.
As part of the filtering process, emails larger than 50 kB are
blocked. This usually happens to legitimate email when someone
attempts to attach a large file, or does not trim an extended series
of exchanges. Also, there is a limit to the number of addresses
before an email is held as potential spam. I have seen legitimate
email sent to 30+ addresses.

We have a team of volunteer moderators, but they are not available
24/7. The result is that a message sent in the evening or on a
holiday, US time, may well be held for several hours before being
released. So, if it absolutely, positively needs to be distributed
promptly:

1. Post from the same account you registered, or one which from past
experience you know has been flagged as acceptable.

2. Do not use attachments. (Pictures and other files should be
included by a link.) They will be blocked to the list, and if the
total size of the message plus attachments exceeds 50 kB, the mail
will be held.

3. Send it to AMSAT-BB and a few other addresses at most. If you
must send to a large distribution list, send to them, and another
copy to AMSAT-BB. (A trick which seems to work well is to place most
of the addresses in the BCC rather than CC line.)

4. Consider also posting to the AMSAT Twitter and Facebook accounts.
There is overlap in membership, though at present it is far from 100%.

5. Do not send large commercial press releases, or things which look
like them. They will be caught by heuristic spam filters. A simple
posting of an event or activity will normally go through. Note that
there are existing exemptions for official channels such as ANS,
ARISS, other AMSAT organizations, etc.

6. All new accounts are automatically flagged for moderation. This
flag will normally be cleared on the first or second posting, but do
allow for and expect an initial delay if you establish a dedicated
account for your satellite organization.

7. Remember that this is a text-only list. Posting using HTML
formatting will have unpredictable results, and may trigger the 50 kB
hold for what appears to be a short message.

[ANS thanks Alan WA4SCA for the above information]


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ISS Orbit Reboost Saturday May 12

The International Space Station was scheduled to raise its orbit this
weekend (Saturday, May 12) to prepare for the departure of three
Expedition 55 crew members and the arrival of a new Russian cargo
craft. The docked Russian Progress 69 resupply ship will fire its
engines Saturday at 6:07 p.m. EDT for two minutes and 52 seconds
slightly boosting the orbital lab?s altitude.

This orbital reboost sets up the proper phasing trajectory
for the Soyuz MS-07 spacecraft when it undocks June 3. The
Soyuz will carry Commander Anton Shkaplerov and Flight
Engineers Scott Tingle and Norishige Kanai back to Earth
after six-and-a-half month mission in space. The reboost
will also enable a two-orbit launch to docking opportunity
for Russia?s next resupply ship the Progress 70 in July.

[Ed note: Stations who have not refreshed their Keplerian
Elements will discover that the ISS is arriving slightly later
than predicted.]

https://tinyurl.com/ANS133-ISS-Boost

[ANS thanks NASA for the above information]


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Three CubeSats with Amateur Radio Payloads Deployed from ISS

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has announced that
three CubeSats carrying Amateur Radio payloads, including one with a
V/U linear transponder, were deployed from the International Space
Station (ISS) on May 11 at around 1030 UTC.

Irazu (Costa Rica) and 1KUNS-PF (Kenya) carry beacon/telemetry in
the 70-centimeter Amateur Radio band, while UBAKUSAT (Turkey) carries
an Amateur Radio linear transponder for SSB and CW, in addition to CW
and telemetry beacons. Irazu is a 1U CubeSat developed by students at
the Costa Rica Institute of Technology, with a telemetry beacon at
436.500 MHz. 1KUNS-PF is a 3U CubeSat developed by students at the
University of Nairobi, with a telemetry beacon (9.6 kbps) at 437.300
MHz.

UBAKUSAT, a 3U CubeSat developed by students at the Istanbul
Technical University, has a CW beacon at 437.225 MHz, and a telemetry
beacon at 437.325 MHz. The linear transponder downlink is 435.200 -
435.250 MHz; the uplink is 145.940 - 145.990 MHz.

[ANS thanks ARRL for the above information]


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Satellite-Image_26113 Re-recovered... Call for amateur help!

Earlier this week Scott Tilley again recovered IMAGE on S-band. The
spacecraft started a series of eclipses and the first one appeared to
cause IMAGE to reboot and start transmitting again.  After the
initial recovery in January of this year IMAGE faded away in late
February.

NASA is now trying to reestablish control of the spacecraft and has
been actively attempting with some success to have the spacecraft
accept commands over the last couple of days.

A number of phenomenon have been observed that has challenged the
ground controllers to understand what is going on with the spacecraft
and they have asked for amateurs to contribute s-band signal data
particularly as the spacecraft passes through eclipse.

If you have access to equipment and are suitably located to
contribute observations please contact me for more information and
support in sharing your observations with NASA.

NASA kindly supplied the following table for stations planning to
monitor IMAGE during eclipses.  Those studying the TLE for IMAGE will
note eclipses primarily happen in the southern hemisphere and have
limited visibility to northern hemisphere locations.  It's not
impossible for northern stations but not 'convenient'.

https://tinyurl.com/ANS133-ImageRecovery

For those needing general information about the mission to plan
their efforts:

Track: 26113 IMAGE, see Spacetrack...

Frequency: 2272.5MHz +/- Doppler

If possible, record amplitude, frequency and timestamp to a machine
readable file and send to me with any information that may be needed
to interpret your data.  Please include lat/long and altitude of
observing station and provide general details of the station.  I.e.
GPS time and  frequency disciplined etc, antenna etc.

If all you can do is record a plot that's fine too!

Stations collecting real data or needing more help can email me
directly and I will forward  to NASA:
sthed475 (at) telus (dot) net

IMAGE thanks you.

For more information on IMAGE (Imager for Magnetopause-to-Aurora
Global Exploration) visit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAGE

[ANS thanks Scott Tilley and Seesat-l for the above information]


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ARISS News

The following ARISS contacts have been successful:

2018-04-17 16:44 UTC
Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using ISS callsign NA1SS with Salado
Intermediate School, Salado, TX, USA, direct via K5LBJ. ARISS Mentor
was Gene K5YFL.

2018-04-18 15:57 UTC
Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using ISS callsign NA1SS with Central
Islip Union Free School District, Central Islip, NY, USA, direct via
KD2IFR. ARISS Mentors were Gordon KD8COJ and Backup John  K4SQC.

2018-04-19 12:05 UTC
Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using, ISS callsign NA1SS with King's
High School, Warwick, UK, direct via GB4KHS, ARISS Mentor was Ciaran
M?XTD.

2018-04-24 11:05 UTC
Cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov using ISS callsign RS?ISS with About
Gagarin From The Space. Implementation Of The Session Of Radio-Love
Communication With Participants Of "Artek" Change, near Black Sea,
Russia, direct via  RM6KD. Mentor was Sergey RV3DR.

2018-04-26 12:30 UTC
Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using ISS callsign OR4ISS with Zesp?l
Szkoly Podstawowej i Publicznego Gimnazjum w Buczku, Buczek, Poland;
I Liceum Og?lnoksztalcace im. Tadeusza Kosciuszki w  Lasku, Lask,
Poland; and Zesp?l Szk?l Ponadgimnazjalnych w Zelowie, Zel?w, Poland,
direct via SP7KYL. ARISS Mentor was Armand SP3QFE.

2018-05-03 15:47 UTC
Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using ISS callsign NA1SS with Mill
Springs Academy, Alpharetta, GA, USA, direct via WA4MSA. ARISS Mentor
was John K4SQC.

2018-05-03 17:22 UTC
Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using ISS callsign NA1SS with Students
for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station, TX, USA,
direct via W5QZ. ARISS Mentor was Keith W5IU.

2018-05-07 13:54:10 UTC
Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using ISS callsign NA1SS with
Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, USA, direct via WA4SXM.
ARISS Mentor was Dave AA4KN.

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at University of the Philippines Integrated School,
Quezon City, Philippines on 15 May. The event is scheduled to begin
at approximately 08:22 UTC. It is recommended that you start
listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of
the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact
will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be
audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are
invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is
expected to be conducted in English.

The UP Integrated School (est. 1976) is the laboratory school of the
UP College of Education. It offers an integrated curriculum from
Kindergarten to Grade 12. It is one of the country's pioneer
integrated schools and has been offering an integrated curriculum
from Kindergarten to Grade 10 since its inception until the mandatory
implementation of the Department of Education's K-12 program in 2012.
The UPIS is the product of the merging of three schools whose
functions it inherited. These are the UP High School (est. 1916), the
UP Elementary School (est. 1936), and the UP Preparatory High School
(est. 1954).

Age of students is 14 and 15.

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time
allows:

1. What are the challenges that astronauts face while working inside
   the international space station? How are these issues addressed?
2. What can you give as an advice or words of inspiration to young
   aspiring Filipinos dreaming of becoming involved in NASA's (or
   International) space programs?
3. The Philippines is one of the most disaster-prone (typhoon,
   earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions) countries in the world. What
   researches does the ISS have to help these countries (or the
   Philippines, in particular) minimize risks related to such
   disasters?
4. Which of the recent breakthroughs/discoveries in your research in
   the ISS is your team's favorite and why? 5. Given the latest
   discoveries/experiments your team has done in the ISS, which
   field in science and technology do you think has the most
   promising advancement in the upcoming years?
6. How can the youth have a more active participation in space
   programs? (Skills training, seminars, etc.)
7. How long does it take to get use to the weightlessness in space?
8. What did you do before you became an astronaut?
9. Compared to Earth-based monitoring programs, how does the ISS
   facilities and equipment help in monitoring environmental
   disasters?
10. What can the Philippines do if it wants to participate in
    international space programs?

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS).

To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
 information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ Get on the Satellites for Field Day!

  Field Day is right around the corner!

  Posted on the AMSAT website with the ARRL?s permission is an article
  entitled ?Get on the Satellites for ARRL Field Day? written by Sean
  Kutzko, KX9X, and published in the June 2018 issue of QST. Read it
  at https://www.amsat.org/get-on-the-satellites-for-field-day/.

  As a reminder, AMSAT runs a Field Day event concurrently with ARRL
  Field Day. For more information, please see
  https://www.amsat.org/field-day/.

  [ANS thanks Paul N8HM for the above information.]

+ 6Y5IDX log

  I, Marty N9EAT, have been working with Chris, VO1IDX/6Y5IDX to get
  his logs sorted out. However, some passes may have been lost due to
  phone issues during rainstorms while he was in Jamaica. The
  following are in the log at this time, and we plan to upload
  May 11:

  YS1MS(x2), TI2CDA, TI4DJ, FG8OJ, WP4PRD, N1RCN (x2),  KE4AL, K9EO,
  N1COR, HP2VX, NA2AA(x2), N9EAT, AK4WQ, AA5PK, N8HM, N8RO, K4FEG,
  KD8ATF, KG4AKV, KB1PVH, NK1K.

  If you worked them, and have a recording available to prove it,
  forward them to either me or Chris VO1IDX. His email is good on QRZ.
  Additionally, forward any lotw issues to either of use. Paper QSL
  cards are via direct to VO1IDX.

  [ANS thanks Marty N9EAT for the above information.]

+ 6E5RM/XF3 Cozumel Island Special Event Includes Satellite Operation

  Members of the Radioclub Cancun will be active as 6E5RM between
  May 23rd and June 1st. Activity is to celebrate the 2018 Rally Maya
  Mexico. However, on May 23rd and 24th, they will be active as
  6E5RM/XF3 from Cozumel Island.  Operations are expected to be on
  80-6 meters using SSB, RTTY, FT8 and the satellites. They will be
  on the air as much time as possible for the Rally activities.

  [ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1363]

+ ARISS Story Line Featured in Book

  Emily Calandrelli KD8PKR recently released her third short novel for
  kids, "Take Me to Your Leader".  In it, her main character, Ada Lace
  uses amateur radio around her hometown.  She also uses radio to
  contact an astronaut on the ISS. I believe it is Sandy Magnus in her
  story.  Even though the contact does not follow the ARISS protocol,
  she talks about the ARISS program in one of the appendices at the
  back of the book.

  If you (or your schools) are ever looking for a good short book to
  explain a little about radio contacts, this would be a good choice.

  [ANS thanks Brian VE6JBJ for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
aa8em at amsat dot org

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sun May 13 02:48:58 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 22:48:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <001801d3ea4e$0a91eac0$1fb5c040$@mypbmail.com>
References: <20180512110235.2593fd47fbbe73cfc40de16a@yknwt.ca>
	<005d01d3ea1f$e476c0f0$ad6442d0$@mindspring.com>
	<aea1a347faa57785c795a0630151ebdf@sp3qfe.net>
	<001801d3ea4e$0a91eac0$1fb5c040$@mypbmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKNFD+rv3NJqH7WA1Mc-ROraUBZYJ8wAbCSNzqY1-Z74=g@mail.gmail.com>

I like space-track.org for this. You have to create an account but you
can give it an object ID and a date range and it will give you the
keps for that date range. Very convenient.

https://www.space-track.org/auth/login

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Ray Hoad <ray.hoad at mypbmail.com> wrote:
> I have every AMSAT TLE sent since October 8, 1993 on a backup hard drive.
>
> Ray Hoad
> WA5QGD
> AMSAT-NA Orbital Elements Manager
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Armand
> SP3QFE
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 13:51
> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> By the way...
> How to get the TLE from the past? eg. to check something form the past
> for some date in the past... such as 30 Apr. 2012?
>
> 73, Armand SP3QFE
>
>
> On 2018-05-12 20:34, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>> For everything other than the ISS and lower, weeks. For sats in 600km
>> and
>> higher, probably months if you are manual tuning and pointing.
>>
>> YMMV.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT
>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 1:03 PM
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
>>
>> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
>> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an
>> extended
>> period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before they're
>> worthless?
>>
>>    Ron VE8RT
>>
>> --
>> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all
>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
>> official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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> AMSAT-NA.
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> _______________________________________________
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From stansberrymj at gmail.com  Sun May 13 03:25:30 2018
From: stansberrymj at gmail.com (Mike Stansberry)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 21:25:30 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] BPSK decode applications
Message-ID: <b5159db1-56ef-d73e-2d4f-89b0555d9333@gmail.com>

Hi, all.
What applications are being used to decode BPSK 1k2 and BPSK 9k6?
I've been searching but have not turned up anything.

Thanks!
Mike, K0TER


From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sun May 13 03:37:06 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 23:37:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] BPSK decode applications
In-Reply-To: <b5159db1-56ef-d73e-2d4f-89b0555d9333@gmail.com>
References: <b5159db1-56ef-d73e-2d4f-89b0555d9333@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZXU4KOiJY+o3O+3EsV_QJHJ7S28He+AJvuH0gHYBeGNQ@mail.gmail.com>

They're in the "other-versions.zip" download on UZ7HO's page at:

http://uz7.ho.ua/packetradio.htm

-Scott,  K4KDR


================================

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Mike Stansberry <stansberrymj at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, all.
> What applications are being used to decode BPSK 1k2 and BPSK 9k6?
> I've been searching but have not turned up anything.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike, K0TER

From twdeckard at earthlink.net  Sun May 13 11:29:35 2018
From: twdeckard at earthlink.net (Todd W Deckard)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 06:29:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
Message-ID: <231261CD-C7EE-4878-B960-D7FBB2716D0A@earthlink.net>

It?s my experience with my arduino based tracker that the TLEs age rapidly and must be refreshed on game day.   

I attributed this to the single precision math although it could be due to some more fundamental misunderstanding on my part.

Now that there are no more shuttle re-supply flights even ISS reboosts are fairly infrequent.

I am using the most excellent  qrpTracker library (Bruce Robertson VE9QRP) which is in turn derived from PLAN13 (James Miller G3RUH). 

https://youtu.be/VG5L5oP2uNk

https://github.com/twdeckard/AE-35/blob/master/sketch_ae-35/sketch_ae-35.ino

Best
Todd


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis <fredy at fredy.gr> wrote:
> 
> Recently it was posted in libre.space community discourse[1] by cgbsat
> an interesting analysis about TLE of a couple of satellites and what
> delays you should expect in observation starting time when you use TLE
> 0-10 days old.
> 
> Delays vary depending on satellite, difference could be from some
> seconds to some minutes (in ISS case).
> 
> I'm very interested if there are similar analyses.
> 
> 73,
> fredy
> 
> [1] https://community.libre.space/t/tle-updates-and-scheduling/1987/4
> 
>> On 05/12/2018 08:02 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
>> I understand that there won't be a good answer for how old can TLE's be
>> before they're of no use.  If you were going to be offline for an
>> extended period, roughly, for a LEO, how long would you go before
>> they're worthless?
>> 
>>   Ron VE8RT
>> 
> 

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sun May 13 11:34:47 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 07:34:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie
In-Reply-To: <000301d3e452$6cbe7a30$463b6e90$@df5sf-qrp.de>
References: <000001d3e3c3$33df33b0$9b9d9b10$@df5sf-qrp.de>
	<CAAJiE8OBCFPn1UtoLf+-GjVs88PC5F=yGS-iesC09TZrQndHOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8PLuYeyfgghyzXua2SX5Y0cP_iN+RwvUP72F3hoexg9vA@mail.gmail.com>
	<000301d3e452$6cbe7a30$463b6e90$@df5sf-qrp.de>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8N403JCMriP5bGZzaonhZDLbYyi_uoZkjv30gxcf53kDw@mail.gmail.com>

Uli,

You change frequencies on all of the satellites, for the FM satellites it
is on the 70cm band. On SO-50 you adjust the receiver, AO-85, 91 & 92 the
transmitter is adjusted.

It took me a while to get used to changing the transmitter during a pass,
since it is not as noticeable as it is on the receiver; more so since I
listen at more than I transmit.


Not sure if you caught this on another thread on the BB:

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Pedro Converso <pconver at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 7, 2018, 12:04
Subject: Re: [amsat~bb] Asking about FM sats frequency
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>


Hello,

I've set on memories for Yaesu FT-897 and Baofeng UV-5R for FM Sats:

SATID Downlin Up-link STone

SO50E 436.802 145.847 77.4 (Corrected STone)
SO501 436.802 145.847 67.0
SO502 436.794 145.850 67.0
SO503 436.786 145.853 67.0

AO851 145.980 435.180 67.0
AO852 145.977 435.172 67.0
AO853 145.974 435.164 67.0

AO911 145.964 435.242 67.0
AO912 145.961 435.250 67.0
AO913 145.858 435.258 67.0

AO921 145.883 435.342 67.0
AO922 145.880 435.350 67.0
AO923 145.877 435.358 67.0

Using http://amsat.org.ar/pass to see when the satellite will show, using
xxx1 for AOS, xxx2 for TCA and xxx3 for LOS.

So far success on contacts, hope is useful.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

73, Don KB2YSI


On Sat, May 5, 2018, 08:30 <uli at df5sf-qrp.de> wrote:

> Hello Don,
>
> many thanks for your infos.
> If I understand aright I have to change the TX frequency for AO-85, AO-91,
> AO-92 because of Doppler shift.
> See
> https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/FoxOperatingGuide_2018_Lo.pdf
> Opposite is SO-50. There I have to change the RX-frequency.
> See
> http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-20131010.pdf
>
> Antenna is ready. Now I wait for a good satellite pass.
>
> 73
> Uli
> DF5SF
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Don KB2YSI [mailto:kb2ysi at gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 22:53
> An: uli at df5sf-qrp.de
> Cc: AMSAT BB
> Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] Question from Newbie
>
> Just ran across this handy guide from K6LCS's site, www.work-stat.com:
>  http://www.work-sat.com/Home_files/FM-VOICE-SATS-1Q-2018b.pdf  Sadly
> AO-85 is not on the sheet, but it should not be hard to figure out what to
> use following the same for the other Fox birds (AO-##'s).
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here are the FM birds base frequencies:
> >
> > AO-85 (Fox-1A) 435.170 MHz 145.980 MHz Operational
> > AO-91 (RadFxSat / Fox-1B) 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Operational
> > AO-92 (Fox-1D) 435.350 MHz & 1267.359 MHz* 145.880 MHz Operational
> > ______* Switchable by command station. Not operational simultaneously.
> >
> > SO-50 145.850 MHz 436.795 MHz Operational
> >
> > Source: https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Page 2 has the layout of how to program the 70cm band, it is the same
> > steps for SO-50 just on RX not TX:
> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/FoxOperatin
> > gGuide_2018_Lo.pdf
> >
> >
> > This PDF has the SO-50 memory settings:
> > http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats
> > -20131010.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > Found most of these on:
> > https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/
> >
> > I hope these help.
> >
> > On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:16 PM,  <uli at df5sf-qrp.de> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have an HT Kenwood TH-7 and now building a 4 element duoband LPDA
> >> for satellite operation.
> >>
> >> I found a lot of helpful information in the internet. Some infos are
> >> in conflict with other.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Are this infos ok ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> SO50:
> >>
> >> Transmit 145.850 MHz fix  FM 67.0 Hz,  RX from 436.815 MHz to 436.795
> >> MHz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> AO91:
> >>
> >> Transmit from 435.240 MHz to 435,260 MHz FM 67.0Hz , RX 145.960 MHz
> >> fix
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> AO85:
> >>
> >> Transmit from 435.160 MHz to 435.180 MHz  FM 67.0 Hz ,  RX 145.980
> >> MHz fix
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Many thanks
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Uli
> >>
> >> DF5SF
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 73, Don KB2YSI
> > https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi
>
>
>
> --
> 73, Don KB2YSI
> https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun May 13 13:06:19 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 09:06:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-133 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
In-Reply-To: <CAM5+sovHS5ycN1tnv6Go6eMSoYOTqWOr58k6d11pToHwJU1OSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM5+sovHS5ycN1tnv6Go6eMSoYOTqWOr58k6d11pToHwJU1OSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqct_u+QN9urAR6pRBkL2UgEX=WpZKFcb39Mw1Jb0D7Xg@mail.gmail.com>

Please note that AMSAT/TAPR Banquet tickets are still available and
will be until 18:00 EDT (22:00 UTC) on Tuesday. You can purchase them
on the AMSAT store at
https://www.amsat.org/product/tapramsat-joint-hamvention-banquet/.

The ANS piece should have read that physical banquet tickets are no
longer distributed. Just check in at the door when you arrive at the
banquet center.

We apologize for any confusion.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice President
Radio Amateur Satellite Corp. (AMSAT)

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 8:58 PM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com> wrote:
> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
> ANS-133
>
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> Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
> launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
> satellites.
>
> The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
> Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
>
> Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
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> ********************************************************************
> *               DON'T FORGET THAT IT IS MOTHER'S DAY               *
> *    AMSAT at HAMVENTION May 18-20 booth (1007-1010 & 1107-1110)   *
> *    AMSAT ForumSaturday, May 19 in Forum room 4 at 2:45-3:45 PM   *
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>
> In this edition:
>
> * Dr. Alan B. Johnston (PhD), KU2Y, Named AMSAT Vice-President,
>   Educational Relations
> * Jerry Buxton, N?JY CubeSat Presentation at Princeton Orbital
>   Initiative
> * ARISS HamVideo Currently Not Transmitting
> * AMSAT at Hamvention 2018 -- 3rd and Final Call for Volunteers
> * Work the AMSAT Hamvention Demo Station!
> * Video Streaming of RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) Flight Model Testing
> * AMSAT Activities at Hamvention 2018
> * Tips For Prompt Message Posting To The AMSAT-BB
> * Three CubeSats with Amateur Radio Payloads Deployed from ISS
> * Satellite-Image_26113 Re-recovered... Call for amateur help!
> * ARISS News
> * Satellite Shorts From All Over
>
>
> SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-133.01
> ANS-133 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
>
> AMSAT News Service Bulletin 133.01
> From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
> May 13, 2018
> To All RADIO AMATEURS
> BID: $ANS-133.01
>
>
> Dr. Alan B. Johnston (PhD), KU2Y, Named AMSAT Vice-President,
> Educational Relations
>
> AMSAT President, Joe Spier, K6WAO has announced the appointment of
> Alan Johnston, KU2Y as AMSAT Vice President-Educational Relations.
> Joe noted, "The subject of educational outreach is critical for the
> mission of AMSAT. AMSAT continues creating structure for fulfilling
> our mission component regarding education with projects such as the
> CubeSat Simulator, ARISS, and outreach to primary, middle, high
> school, and university programs. Alan has agreed to help AMSAT
> establish and coordinate an education initiative program and serve as
> AMSAT?s senior point of contact with outside organizations regarding
> educational outreach."
>
> Given the increasing importance of fulfilling education goals as
> justification for launch opportunities, this is an important subject
> for AMSAT.  Alan is aptly suited for this position as he is currently
> an instructor at Rowan University in the Electrical and Computer
> Engineering department, and has previously taught at Seattle
> University, Illinois Institute of Technology, and Washington
> University in St Louis. Alan is interested in using amateur radio
> satellites to teach various engineering and scientific topics and
> understands the teacher perspective as well. He holds an Amateur
> Extra license and is also a published author.
>
> [ANS Thanks Joe, K6WAO for the above information]
>
>
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>
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY CubeSat Presentation at Princeton Orbital
> Initiative
>
> The Princeton Orbital Initiative, a student organization at
> Princeton University, has invited Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice
> President of Engineering, to share his experience with CubeSat
> development and AMSAT's proven technology combining scientific
> telemetry with on-orbit CubeSat voice operations, further
> expanding AMSAT's educational outreach.
>
> Dan Marlow, K2QM, a faculty advisor to the Princeton Orbital
> Initiative (POI) says the group plans to build and fly a 3U CubeSat
> with a goal to submit the project to the NASA CubeSat Launch
> Initiative in November of this year. Marlow's invitation includes
> meetings with Andrew Redd, the lead for the POI initiative and an
> additional session with the graduate student chief designer of the
> thruster that the Princeton Plasma Lab is planning.  Marlow said
> the visit would also provide an opportunity to explore possible
> mutual interest in partnering along the lines of some of the recent
> Fox missions.
>
> Buxton will give a presentation followed by a Q&A session, and
> have informal sessions with the students. The students have begun
> mechanical design of their 3U CubeSat and are looking to AMSAT
> for advice and guidance for their electronic and communications
> systems.
>
> Buxton commented, "Many institutions have been calling us for input
> on building CubeSats and to explore partnerships, and I think that
> this opportunity from an Ivy League University reflects the high
> level of standing and reputation AMSAT has established in the
> satellite industry ... with a specialty in amateur radio satellites
> of course."
>
> AMSAT North America pioneered satellite operations in space and con-
> tinues that tradition now based based on reliable CubeSat operations
> with amateur radio transponders, hosting scientific experimental
> missions sharing the amateur radio payload, successful multiple
> CubeSat deployment, and orbital deployment from the International
> Space Station.
>
> AMSAT was an early participant with the NASA CubeSat Launch Initiative
> in the Educational Launch of Nanosatellites (ELaNa) program and con-
> tinues to have our launches selected based on our prior success and
> exciting future technological, scientific and educational
> opportunities.
>
> [ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice President of Engineering
>  for the above information]
>
>
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>
>
> ARISS HamVideo Currently Not Transmitting
>
> In the official ARISS News Release No.18-06 dated May 10, 2018,
> ARISS PR Editor David Jordan, AA4KN, reports that the ARISS HamVideo
> is not currently transmitting
>
> The HamVideo digital Amateur Television (DATV) transmitter aboard
> the International Space Station (ISS) Columbus module recently ceased
> transmitting. The unit's indicators show it is functioning but its
> signal cannot be detected on the ground. The ARISS team's efforts to
> get the transmitter working again have been unsuccessful, thus far.
>
> A series of steps are currently being undertaken to try to diagnose
> the problem. However, if an actual failure occurred, only a ground-
> based evaluation will fully diagnose the problem. The ARISS
> International team is working diligently to bring HamVideo back to
> full operation as soon as practical. We have started coordination
> with our space agency partners and with our sponsors to expeditiously
> troubleshoot the issue on-board and, if necessary, troubleshoot and
> repair the device on the ground.
>
> The HamVideo DATV transmitter has become a very valuable educational
> asset that astronauts enjoy employing as part of the ARISS
> connection.  Astronauts Tim Peake, KG5BVI; Paolo Nespoli, IZ0JPA; and
> Thomas Pesquet, FX0ISS, regularly utilized HamTV to inspire students
> and educators during ARISS contacts scheduled as part of these
> astronauts' ISS missions. Australian and European HamTV ground
> stations have been operational for receiving and distributing DATV
> signals from the ISS, and in the US, HamTV stations are under
> development.  Several hams in Japan have set up ground stations that
> have received HamVideo.
>
> As more information becomes available on the HamVideo status and on
> any potential repair plans, we will keep you informed through future
> news releases and via messages on the ARISS web site www.ariss.org.
>
> [ANS thanks David AA4KN for the above information]
>
>
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>
>
> AMSAT at Hamvention 2018 -- 3rd and Final Call for Volunteers
>
> Hamvention 2018 in Xenia, Ohio is next week, May 18-20!
>
> If you?ve been waiting to volunteer until you?d firmed up your
> plans, we need to hear from you ASAP!
>
> If you're an experienced satellite operator, we can use you
> and your experience.
>
> If you've never operated a satellite before, we can use your
> help too.
>
> Whether you're available for only a couple of hours or if you
> can spend the entire weekend with us, your help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Please send an e-mail to Phil, w1eme at amsat.org if you can help.
> Thank you!
>
> [Information provided by Phil Smith, W1EME Hamvention 2018 Team
>  Leader]
>
>
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>
>
> Work the AMSAT Hamvention Demo Station!
>
> As previously announced, AMSAT will have it's traditional presence
> at Hamvention this year, including a satellite demo station. The
> demostation will operate under the AMSAT club callsign W3ZM/8.
>
> We intend to be on most passes of voice satellites between 12:00 UTC
> and 20:30 UTC on Friday, May 19th and Saturday, May 20th and between
> 12:00 UTC and 16:00 UTC on Sunday, May 21st. Hamvention is located in
> the six digit gridsquare EM89aq.
>
> As a reward for working the AMSAT demo station, individuals working
> us will receive a digital certificate upon request. Please email
> n8hm at amsat.org with your QSO details to receive a certificate.
>
> If you are attending Hamvention, please stop by the demo station
> outside Building 1!
>
> [ANS thanks Paul N8HM for the above information]
>
>
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>
>
> Video Streaming of RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) Flight Model Testing
>
> AMSAT Vice President Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, has been
> streaming live videos of testing of the flight model of RadFxSat-2
> (Fox-1E) from Fox Labs in Granbury, TX.
>
> You can view archived videos at:
> https://www.twitch.tv/n0jy/videos/all.
>
> The first two are also posted at:
> https://tinyurl.com/ANS133-RadFxModelTest
>
> Follow @N0JY on Twitter for future live streams of RadFxSat-2 flight
> model testing.
>
> RadFxSat-2 is scheduled to launch later this year on the ELaNa XX
> mission aboard Virgin Orbit's LauncherOne air-launch-to-orbit system.
> The satellite carries a 30 kHz wide V/u linear transponder and
> radiation experiments for Vanderbilt University's Institute for Space
> and Defense Electronics.
>
> [ANS thanks Paul Stoetzer N8HM, and Jerry Buxton, N0JY for the above
>  information]
>
>
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>
>
> AMSAT Activities at Hamvention 2018
>
> The 2018 Hamvention will be held on May 18-20, 2018 at Greene County
> Fairground and Expo Center in Xenia Ohio. AMSAT is planning for an
> exciting event.
>
> May 17 ? Booth setup on Thursday.
> May 18, 19, 20 ? AMSAT in full operation at Hamvention
> May 20 ? Booth teardown on Sunday
> AMSAT Booth
> Stop by the AMSAT booth (1007-1010 & 1107-1110) Friday 9am-6pm,
> Saturday 9am-5pm, Sunday 9am-1pm to meet board members, officers,
> and active satellite operators. You?ll be able to ask questions and
> see demonstrations of AMSAT?s current and upcoming technologies.
>
> Well dressed satellite operators will look forward to picking up the
> latest AMSAT ?swag? and fashions for 2018. Gould Smith?s book,
> Getting Started With Amateur Satellites, has been updated for 2018
> and will be on sale during the Hamvention.
>
> AMSAT Forum
> The AMSAT Forum at Hamvention 2018 will be held on Saturday, May 19
> in Forum room 4 at 2:45-3:45 PM.
>
> Amateur Satellite Demonstrations
> Amateur Satellite operation demonstrations will be held every day
> outside the main Maxim Hall (Building 1 or E1) entrance. AMSAT will
> be be demonstrating actual contacts with the operational amateur
> satellites. We especially invite youth to make a contact via an
> amateur satellite. All are invited to observe, participate and ask
> questions. Satellite pass times will be posted at the AMSAT booth and
> in the demo area.
>
> Annual AMSAT ?Dinner at Tickets? Party
> The annual AMSAT ?Dinner at Tickets? party will be held Thursday at
> 1800 EDT at Tickets Pub & Eatery at 7 W. Main St, Fairborn, OH. Feast
> on a great selection of Greek and American food and great company! No
> program or speaker, just good conversation. Food can be ordered from
> the menu, drinks (beer, wine, sodas and iced tea) are available at
> the bar. Leave room for dessert, there?s an in-house ice cream shop!
> Come as you are. Bring some friends and have a great time the night
> before Hamvention.
>
> AMSAT/TAPR Banquet
> The twelfth annual AMSAT/TAPR Banquet will be held at the Kohler
> Presidential Center on Friday at 1830 EDT. This dinner is always a
> highlight of the AMSAT and TAPR activities during the Dayton
> Hamvention. We are pleased to announce that Jeri Ellsworth, AI6TK
> will be our speaker. Jeri will present her innovative ideas and
> adventures in Amateur Radio.
>
> Banquet tickets are no longer available
> There will be no tickets to pick up at the AMSAT booth.
> Tickets purchased on-line will be maintained on a list with check-in
> at the door of the banquet center.
>
> AMSAT Announces Hamvention Forum Speaker Line Up
> The AMSAT Forum at Hamvention 2018 will be held on Saturday, May 19
> in Forum room 4 at 2:45-3:45 PM. The speaker and topic line up
> includes:
>
> Moderator: Keith Baker, KB1SF / VA3KSF
> ?AMSAT Status Report? by Joseph Spier, K6WAO, AMSAT-NA President,
> who will highlight recent activities within AMSAT and discuss some of
> our challenges, accomplishments, projects, and any late breaking news.
> ?AMSAT Engineering Program? by Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT-NA Vice
> President for Engineering, will talk about the Fox-1 and Golf
> (Greater Orbit Larger Footprint) Projects.
> ?ARISS Report 2018? by Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, AMSAT-NA Vice President
> for Human Spaceflight will discus ARISS? ?Next Generation ARISS Radio
> System? on the International Space Station.
> AMSAT/TAPR Banquet Speaker ? Jeri Ellsworth, AI6TK
> The twelfth annual joint AMSAT/TAPR Banquet will be held on Friday,
> May 18 at the Kohler Presidential Banquet Center, 4572 Presidential
> Way, Kettering, OH 45429 (just south of Dayton). Doors open at 6:30
> PM for a cash bar with the buffet dinner served at 7:00 PM.
>
> Jeri Ellsworth, AI6TK, will present on her innovative ideas and
> adventures in Amateur Radio. Jeri is an American entrepreneur, self-
> taught engineer, and an autodidact computer chip designer and
> inventor.
>
> She gained notoriety in 2004 for creating a complete Commodore 64
> system on a chip housed within a joystick, called C64 Direct-to-TV.
> That ?computer in a joystick? could run 30 video games from the early
> 1980?s, and at peak, sold over 70,000 units in a single day via the
> QVC shopping channel.
>
> Ellsworth co-founded CastAR (formerly Technical Illusions) in 2013
> and stayed with the company until its closure on June 26, 2017. In
> 2016, she passed all three amateur radio exams, earned her Amateur
> Extra license, and received the AI6TK callsign. This has now launched
> new adventures into Amateur Radio. She has been featured in January
> 2017 QST and in YouTube videos from Quartzfest earlier this year.
> Jeri has been given a free hand to speak on whatever topic she wishes
> (as long as it?s amateur radio, somewhat).
>
> [ANS thanks The AMSAT Office for the above information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Tips For Prompt Message Posting To The AMSAT-BB
>
> Recently, there have been several posts, including some time
> sensitive roving information, which have been held for moderator
> release because they were sent by list members from accounts other
> than the one used to register with the list.  While the moderators
> are happy to release these messages, it can result in significant
> delay.  Since there are many new members here, below is a guide
> which was published two years ago.
>
> Tips for prompt message posting.
>
> People sometimes post time-sensitive messages to AMSAT-BB. Examples
> are last minute grid activities, unexpected satellite mode changes,
> requests for critically important telemetry, etc. These normally go
> through promptly, but occasionally get held for two basic reasons:
>
> While AMSAT-BB is an open list, that means it is open for
> membership, not posting. In order to post to the list, it normally
> must be from the same account you originally registered. For
> instance, if you registered from your home account, and post from
> your office account, it will normally be held for release by a
> moderator. Likewise, some people have all their email forwarded to a
> single account from which they reply. We can create a filter to pass
> the second address, but that is not automatically done on the first
> instance, and does require moderator action.
>
> AMSAT-BB receives many pieces of spam for each legitimate message.
> As part of the filtering process, emails larger than 50 kB are
> blocked. This usually happens to legitimate email when someone
> attempts to attach a large file, or does not trim an extended series
> of exchanges. Also, there is a limit to the number of addresses
> before an email is held as potential spam. I have seen legitimate
> email sent to 30+ addresses.
>
> We have a team of volunteer moderators, but they are not available
> 24/7. The result is that a message sent in the evening or on a
> holiday, US time, may well be held for several hours before being
> released. So, if it absolutely, positively needs to be distributed
> promptly:
>
> 1. Post from the same account you registered, or one which from past
> experience you know has been flagged as acceptable.
>
> 2. Do not use attachments. (Pictures and other files should be
> included by a link.) They will be blocked to the list, and if the
> total size of the message plus attachments exceeds 50 kB, the mail
> will be held.
>
> 3. Send it to AMSAT-BB and a few other addresses at most. If you
> must send to a large distribution list, send to them, and another
> copy to AMSAT-BB. (A trick which seems to work well is to place most
> of the addresses in the BCC rather than CC line.)
>
> 4. Consider also posting to the AMSAT Twitter and Facebook accounts.
> There is overlap in membership, though at present it is far from 100%.
>
> 5. Do not send large commercial press releases, or things which look
> like them. They will be caught by heuristic spam filters. A simple
> posting of an event or activity will normally go through. Note that
> there are existing exemptions for official channels such as ANS,
> ARISS, other AMSAT organizations, etc.
>
> 6. All new accounts are automatically flagged for moderation. This
> flag will normally be cleared on the first or second posting, but do
> allow for and expect an initial delay if you establish a dedicated
> account for your satellite organization.
>
> 7. Remember that this is a text-only list. Posting using HTML
> formatting will have unpredictable results, and may trigger the 50 kB
> hold for what appears to be a short message.
>
> [ANS thanks Alan WA4SCA for the above information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ISS Orbit Reboost Saturday May 12
>
> The International Space Station was scheduled to raise its orbit this
> weekend (Saturday, May 12) to prepare for the departure of three
> Expedition 55 crew members and the arrival of a new Russian cargo
> craft. The docked Russian Progress 69 resupply ship will fire its
> engines Saturday at 6:07 p.m. EDT for two minutes and 52 seconds
> slightly boosting the orbital lab?s altitude.
>
> This orbital reboost sets up the proper phasing trajectory
> for the Soyuz MS-07 spacecraft when it undocks June 3. The
> Soyuz will carry Commander Anton Shkaplerov and Flight
> Engineers Scott Tingle and Norishige Kanai back to Earth
> after six-and-a-half month mission in space. The reboost
> will also enable a two-orbit launch to docking opportunity
> for Russia?s next resupply ship the Progress 70 in July.
>
> [Ed note: Stations who have not refreshed their Keplerian
> Elements will discover that the ISS is arriving slightly later
> than predicted.]
>
> https://tinyurl.com/ANS133-ISS-Boost
>
> [ANS thanks NASA for the above information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Three CubeSats with Amateur Radio Payloads Deployed from ISS
>
> The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has announced that
> three CubeSats carrying Amateur Radio payloads, including one with a
> V/U linear transponder, were deployed from the International Space
> Station (ISS) on May 11 at around 1030 UTC.
>
> Irazu (Costa Rica) and 1KUNS-PF (Kenya) carry beacon/telemetry in
> the 70-centimeter Amateur Radio band, while UBAKUSAT (Turkey) carries
> an Amateur Radio linear transponder for SSB and CW, in addition to CW
> and telemetry beacons. Irazu is a 1U CubeSat developed by students at
> the Costa Rica Institute of Technology, with a telemetry beacon at
> 436.500 MHz. 1KUNS-PF is a 3U CubeSat developed by students at the
> University of Nairobi, with a telemetry beacon (9.6 kbps) at 437.300
> MHz.
>
> UBAKUSAT, a 3U CubeSat developed by students at the Istanbul
> Technical University, has a CW beacon at 437.225 MHz, and a telemetry
> beacon at 437.325 MHz. The linear transponder downlink is 435.200 -
> 435.250 MHz; the uplink is 145.940 - 145.990 MHz.
>
> [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Satellite-Image_26113 Re-recovered... Call for amateur help!
>
> Earlier this week Scott Tilley again recovered IMAGE on S-band. The
> spacecraft started a series of eclipses and the first one appeared to
> cause IMAGE to reboot and start transmitting again.  After the
> initial recovery in January of this year IMAGE faded away in late
> February.
>
> NASA is now trying to reestablish control of the spacecraft and has
> been actively attempting with some success to have the spacecraft
> accept commands over the last couple of days.
>
> A number of phenomenon have been observed that has challenged the
> ground controllers to understand what is going on with the spacecraft
> and they have asked for amateurs to contribute s-band signal data
> particularly as the spacecraft passes through eclipse.
>
> If you have access to equipment and are suitably located to
> contribute observations please contact me for more information and
> support in sharing your observations with NASA.
>
> NASA kindly supplied the following table for stations planning to
> monitor IMAGE during eclipses.  Those studying the TLE for IMAGE will
> note eclipses primarily happen in the southern hemisphere and have
> limited visibility to northern hemisphere locations.  It's not
> impossible for northern stations but not 'convenient'.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/ANS133-ImageRecovery
>
> For those needing general information about the mission to plan
> their efforts:
>
> Track: 26113 IMAGE, see Spacetrack...
>
> Frequency: 2272.5MHz +/- Doppler
>
> If possible, record amplitude, frequency and timestamp to a machine
> readable file and send to me with any information that may be needed
> to interpret your data.  Please include lat/long and altitude of
> observing station and provide general details of the station.  I.e.
> GPS time and  frequency disciplined etc, antenna etc.
>
> If all you can do is record a plot that's fine too!
>
> Stations collecting real data or needing more help can email me
> directly and I will forward  to NASA:
> sthed475 (at) telus (dot) net
>
> IMAGE thanks you.
>
> For more information on IMAGE (Imager for Magnetopause-to-Aurora
> Global Exploration) visit:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAGE
>
> [ANS thanks Scott Tilley and Seesat-l for the above information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ARISS News
>
> The following ARISS contacts have been successful:
>
> 2018-04-17 16:44 UTC
> Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using ISS callsign NA1SS with Salado
> Intermediate School, Salado, TX, USA, direct via K5LBJ. ARISS Mentor
> was Gene K5YFL.
>
> 2018-04-18 15:57 UTC
> Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using ISS callsign NA1SS with Central
> Islip Union Free School District, Central Islip, NY, USA, direct via
> KD2IFR. ARISS Mentors were Gordon KD8COJ and Backup John  K4SQC.
>
> 2018-04-19 12:05 UTC
> Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using, ISS callsign NA1SS with King's
> High School, Warwick, UK, direct via GB4KHS, ARISS Mentor was Ciaran
> M?XTD.
>
> 2018-04-24 11:05 UTC
> Cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov using ISS callsign RS?ISS with About
> Gagarin From The Space. Implementation Of The Session Of Radio-Love
> Communication With Participants Of "Artek" Change, near Black Sea,
> Russia, direct via  RM6KD. Mentor was Sergey RV3DR.
>
> 2018-04-26 12:30 UTC
> Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using ISS callsign OR4ISS with Zesp?l
> Szkoly Podstawowej i Publicznego Gimnazjum w Buczku, Buczek, Poland;
> I Liceum Og?lnoksztalcace im. Tadeusza Kosciuszki w  Lasku, Lask,
> Poland; and Zesp?l Szk?l Ponadgimnazjalnych w Zelowie, Zel?w, Poland,
> direct via SP7KYL. ARISS Mentor was Armand SP3QFE.
>
> 2018-05-03 15:47 UTC
> Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using ISS callsign NA1SS with Mill
> Springs Academy, Alpharetta, GA, USA, direct via WA4MSA. ARISS Mentor
> was John K4SQC.
>
> 2018-05-03 17:22 UTC
> Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using ISS callsign NA1SS with Students
> for the Exploration & Development of Space, College Station, TX, USA,
> direct via W5QZ. ARISS Mentor was Keith W5IU.
>
> 2018-05-07 13:54:10 UTC
> Astronaut Ricky Arnold KE5DAU using ISS callsign NA1SS with
> Mooreland Heights Elementary, Knoxville, TN, USA, direct via WA4SXM.
> ARISS Mentor was Dave AA4KN.
>
> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule
>
> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
> participants at University of the Philippines Integrated School,
> Quezon City, Philippines on 15 May. The event is scheduled to begin
> at approximately 08:22 UTC. It is recommended that you start
> listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of
> the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact
> will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be
> audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are
> invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is
> expected to be conducted in English.
>
> The UP Integrated School (est. 1976) is the laboratory school of the
> UP College of Education. It offers an integrated curriculum from
> Kindergarten to Grade 12. It is one of the country's pioneer
> integrated schools and has been offering an integrated curriculum
> from Kindergarten to Grade 10 since its inception until the mandatory
> implementation of the Department of Education's K-12 program in 2012.
> The UPIS is the product of the merging of three schools whose
> functions it inherited. These are the UP High School (est. 1916), the
> UP Elementary School (est. 1936), and the UP Preparatory High School
> (est. 1954).
>
> Age of students is 14 and 15.
>
> Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time
> allows:
>
> 1. What are the challenges that astronauts face while working inside
>    the international space station? How are these issues addressed?
> 2. What can you give as an advice or words of inspiration to young
>    aspiring Filipinos dreaming of becoming involved in NASA's (or
>    International) space programs?
> 3. The Philippines is one of the most disaster-prone (typhoon,
>    earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions) countries in the world. What
>    researches does the ISS have to help these countries (or the
>    Philippines, in particular) minimize risks related to such
>    disasters?
> 4. Which of the recent breakthroughs/discoveries in your research in
>    the ISS is your team's favorite and why? 5. Given the latest
>    discoveries/experiments your team has done in the ISS, which
>    field in science and technology do you think has the most
>    promising advancement in the upcoming years?
> 6. How can the youth have a more active participation in space
>    programs? (Skills training, seminars, etc.)
> 7. How long does it take to get use to the weightlessness in space?
> 8. What did you do before you became an astronaut?
> 9. Compared to Earth-based monitoring programs, how does the ISS
>    facilities and equipment help in monitoring environmental
>    disasters?
> 10. What can the Philippines do if it wants to participate in
>     international space programs?
>
> PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
> Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
> International Space Station (ARISS).
>
> To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status
>
> [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
>  information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Satellite Shorts From All Over
>
> + Get on the Satellites for Field Day!
>
>   Field Day is right around the corner!
>
>   Posted on the AMSAT website with the ARRL?s permission is an article
>   entitled ?Get on the Satellites for ARRL Field Day? written by Sean
>   Kutzko, KX9X, and published in the June 2018 issue of QST. Read it
>   at https://www.amsat.org/get-on-the-satellites-for-field-day/.
>
>   As a reminder, AMSAT runs a Field Day event concurrently with ARRL
>   Field Day. For more information, please see
>   https://www.amsat.org/field-day/.
>
>   [ANS thanks Paul N8HM for the above information.]
>
> + 6Y5IDX log
>
>   I, Marty N9EAT, have been working with Chris, VO1IDX/6Y5IDX to get
>   his logs sorted out. However, some passes may have been lost due to
>   phone issues during rainstorms while he was in Jamaica. The
>   following are in the log at this time, and we plan to upload
>   May 11:
>
>   YS1MS(x2), TI2CDA, TI4DJ, FG8OJ, WP4PRD, N1RCN (x2),  KE4AL, K9EO,
>   N1COR, HP2VX, NA2AA(x2), N9EAT, AK4WQ, AA5PK, N8HM, N8RO, K4FEG,
>   KD8ATF, KG4AKV, KB1PVH, NK1K.
>
>   If you worked them, and have a recording available to prove it,
>   forward them to either me or Chris VO1IDX. His email is good on QRZ.
>   Additionally, forward any lotw issues to either of use. Paper QSL
>   cards are via direct to VO1IDX.
>
>   [ANS thanks Marty N9EAT for the above information.]
>
> + 6E5RM/XF3 Cozumel Island Special Event Includes Satellite Operation
>
>   Members of the Radioclub Cancun will be active as 6E5RM between
>   May 23rd and June 1st. Activity is to celebrate the 2018 Rally Maya
>   Mexico. However, on May 23rd and 24th, they will be active as
>   6E5RM/XF3 from Cozumel Island.  Operations are expected to be on
>   80-6 meters using SSB, RTTY, FT8 and the satellites. They will be
>   on the air as much time as possible for the Rally activities.
>
>   [ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1363]
>
> + ARISS Story Line Featured in Book
>
>   Emily Calandrelli KD8PKR recently released her third short novel for
>   kids, "Take Me to Your Leader".  In it, her main character, Ada Lace
>   uses amateur radio around her hometown.  She also uses radio to
>   contact an astronaut on the ISS. I believe it is Sandy Magnus in her
>   story.  Even though the contact does not follow the ARISS protocol,
>   she talks about the ARISS program in one of the appendices at the
>   back of the book.
>
>   If you (or your schools) are ever looking for a good short book to
>   explain a little about radio contacts, this would be a good choice.
>
>   [ANS thanks Brian VE6JBJ for the above information]
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> /EX
>
> In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
> President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
> donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
> tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
> Office.
>
> Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
> at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
> enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
> dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
> Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
> information.
>
> 73,
> This week's ANS Editor,
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> aa8em at amsat dot org
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From pconver at gmail.com  Sun May 13 15:58:50 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:50 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Memory Settings for FM Satellites
Message-ID: <CANTZqKmURm_-WZ0sfQHzBLhU-68-TrAXOuuz-hJFXzO4dOrE6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On http://amsat.org.ar/FMSATS.txt

73, lu7abf, Pedro

From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Sun May 13 17:42:56 2018
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 12:42:56 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Camb-Hams on Islay Island Include Satellite Operation -
	May 13-18
Message-ID: <5af87921.1c69fb81.61f82.0072@mx.google.com>

Here is an island activation that falls in between the AMSAT News Service
bulletin cycles ...

  EU-008.  Members of the Camb-Hams will once again be active as GS3PYE/P,
           but this time from Islay Island between May 13-18th. The Camb-
           Hams have been activating the Scottish Isles each year since
           2008. As in the past, ten or more operators will be active on
           all bands and many modes from 4m to 80m, 2m & 70cm for Satellites
           and 2m & 23cm for EME. The HF bands will be covered by four
           simultaneous stations while the 6m & 4m stations will have a
           great take-off towards the UK and Europe. All stations will be
           able to run at the full UK power limit. EME operations will use
           150W to 55 elements on 23cm and 400W to 17 elements on 2m,
           primarily on JT65, but also available for CW skeds - if your
           station is big enough. Satellite operations on 2m & 70cm will
           use X-Quad antennas and a fully automatic Az/El tracking system.
           Activity is planned on AO-7 (mode B), VO-52, FO-29, SO-50 &
           AO-73. All the up-to-date plans and progress will be on
           <dx.camb-hams.com>. Most importantly, this is a group of good
           friends doing what they enjoy, so please give them a call and
           enjoy the trip with them. They will be active on the major
           social networks before, during and after the trip, you can
           check on their progress and interact with the operators via
           their blog <dx.camb-hams.com> or through Twitter, Facebook
           and YouTube [see links below]. Please check their Web page for
           details on how to arrange skeds on the more challenging bands,
           modes, VHF and EME. All links are available via:
                              http://dx.camb-hams.com
           QSL via OQRS (info on QRZ.com) or M0VFC direct or via bureau.
             <dx.camb-hams.com>             <facebook.com/CambHams>
             <twitter.com/g3pye>            <youtube.com/CambHams>

[via Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1364]


From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Sun May 13 20:53:11 2018
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 20:53:11 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] UBAKUSAT
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOYD8JsmxruRArjUy-b=1=OEJwTj=Nt5kZo5HD2Xwh=9xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <82b800b4-0426-fa8c-9304-0e60b2312353@a.email.ne.jp>
	<ea9382e8-23a2-df66-aea3-70fb9494c54b@fredy.gr>
	<F8FB1FA2-93DE-4D15-B4B5-E4C6E4B9AFC6@itu.edu.tr>
	<4535354b-e460-d3df-9b3c-6b4b8d28f0da@btinternet.com>
	<a928bdab-a9ea-8e24-c6a8-b93964b6d9c1@fredy.gr>
	<6fe90860-c5c1-c00a-e1c5-3fbe41ba2d0e@wanadoo.fr>
	<CAJCSnOYD8JsmxruRArjUy-b=1=OEJwTj=Nt5kZo5HD2Xwh=9xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <548bf0d4-4195-9296-a919-008acab3efa1@wanadoo.fr>

   Many thanks Scott,

   I noted 437.225 for 1KUNS-PF, so my question about a signal on 
437.300... Yes, the signal is strong and, reading your reply, I tried 
1K2 BPSK, USB as usual, but don't succeed.

   Ubakusat and Irazu are decoding OK.

   Thank you again Scott, 73!

   Jean-Pierre F5YG

On 12/05/2018 06:57, Scott wrote:
> Hi Jean-Pierre!
> 
> I assume that's 1KUNS-PF on 437.300 but as many others are saying on
> Twitter, the signal looks like 1k2 BPSK (USB).
> 
> However, as of the time I'm writing this, it doesn't look like it's
> decoding for anyone, including myself.  I even tried it with LSB "just in
> case".
> 
> My packets were fairly strong and the 9k6 FSK signals from Irazu (436.500)
> and UBAKUSAT (437.325) decoded just fine.
> 
> So, as for the transmissions on 437.300, if they are 1k2 BPSK then perhaps
> there is some corruption.  No doubt we'll learn more in coming days as the
> signals are looked at by some in the community who have the knowledge to
> dig deeper into the packets.
> 
> 73!
> 
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> 
> 
> =======================
> 
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:53 AM, Jean-Pierre Godet <godetj at wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
> 
>>    Received around 0500 UTC orbit nr 12 (?) 437.325 MHz GMSK 9k6, a frame
>> about each minute. Nothing from IRAZU nor 1KUNS-PF till now.
>>    At the same time, near IRAZU, was something, narrow, looking like 1K2,
>> about 437.300.
>>
>>    Have a nice day !
>>
>>    Jean-Pierre F5YG
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From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Mon May 14 09:38:30 2018
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 11:38:30 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAT control of the Yaesu FT-991/FT-991A
Message-ID: <c3ea3428-11b1-686e-5640-fd80c8053321@t-online.de>

Hi,
I have added? CAT control of the FT-991/FT-991A to SatPC32 and would? 
appreciate if someone else tested? the new? .exe file before I replace 
the setup files.
The file can be downloaded here:
http://www.dk1tb.de/SatPC_Files_f_FT991.zip
The zip file contains the modified? SatPC32.exe (English version), 2 
little data files and an instruction file.

I connected the FT-991A to the PC via a RS-232 cable and (after 
installation of the USB driver) also via it's USB port. Both connections 
work (the USB connection only via the "Enhanced" port).

73s, Erich, DK1TB


From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon May 14 14:32:01 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 10:32:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] New CAMSAT Satellites - Scheduled for September 2018
	Launch
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqf2=v5aH3EXiZYFy5A--THSzrcGudSoB+tXc19F2fTGQ@mail.gmail.com>

CAMSAT, the Chinese Amateur Satellite Group, has submitted requests to
the IARU for frequency coordination for three new amateur satellites.

CAS-5A is a 6U CubeSat with several amateur transponders: A 30 kHz
wide 15 meter to 10 meter linear transponder, a 15 kHz wide 15 meter
to 70 cm linear transponder, a 30 kHz wide 2 meter to 70 cm linear
transponder, and a 2 meter to 70 cm FM repeater. The satellite also
has 10 meter and 70 cm CW beacons as well as a 70 cm 4.8k / 9.6k GMSK
telemetry downlink.

CAS-5B is a 90 mm L x 80 mm W x 50 mm H 0.5 kg femtosatellite with a
70 cm CW beacon.

CAS-5A and CAS-5B are scheduled to launch in September from Jiuguan
Launch Center into a 539 km x 533 km 97.5 degree inclination orbit.

CAS-6 is an amateur payload aboard a 50 kg microsatellite with a 20
kHz wide 70 cm to 2 m linear transponder, a VHF CW beacon, and a 4.8k
GMSK telemetry downlink. Launch is planned from a Sea Launch Pad from
the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology in September into a 579
x 579 km 45 degree inclination orbit.

CAS-5A coordination request:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=619

CAS-5B coordination request:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=620

CAS-6 coordination request:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=622

https://www.amsat.org/camsat-sep-2018/

From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon May 14 19:46:18 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 15:46:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT/TAPR Banquet Ticket Deadline Tomorrow (May 15th)
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqnbFODUTUved5wjD=+yTEucjUKRcAM_vKExR+eZQS4Tg@mail.gmail.com>

Please remember that the deadline for purchasing tickets to the
AMSAT/TAPR Banquet is tomorrow at 18:00 EDT (22:00 UTC). Tickets will
not be available at Dayton.

Tickets may only be purchased via the AMSAT online store at
https://www.amsat.org/product/tapramsat-joint-hamvention-banquet/.

All users of the AMSAT store must log in with your callsign. If you
find yourself unable to log in or reset your password, please email me
at n8hm at amsat.org and I will update your email address in our system
so you can reset your password. I will try to complete this as soon as
possible given tomorrow's deadline, but if you are not sure of your
account status, please do not wait until the last minute to attempt to
purchase your tickets.

Thank you.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice Presdient
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)

From ks1g04 at gmail.com  Tue May 15 00:29:13 2018
From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 20:29:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
Message-ID: <CACZz0S30duRCNUCWer+-GaXeoziV_m0OCWhfB0Tx90Ja3pwhpQ@mail.gmail.com>

After reading  Ray's reminder that the old kep bulletins are online, I
tried an experiment running SatPC32 WinAOS for a 24 hour period using the
current keps (from last Friday's bulletin) and a set from the end of March
(~45 days, which is about how many days there are until Field Day give or
take).  Summary of results for all the regularly operating FM and SSB
satellites I can reach here and ISS:

78 passes at 5 deg or better in 24 hours
Excluding ISS, largest AOS difference was 1 minute (assuming SatPC32 rounds
to nearest minute, call it 1:30).
Differences in predicted period (length) of pass were 1 minute, including
ISS; roughly evenly distributed between shorter and longer.
Differences in predicted max elevation was up to 7 degrees, average was
0.95 deg.  The largest differences were associated with higher elevation
passes, so not a big impact on ability to use.

I didn't check for horizon skimmers where a small change in the
calculations could result in no pass or a marginal pass.

Conclusion:  For general planning purposes, keplerian element data is
useful at least 1.5 months out.  Possibly longer.  I'd be much more careful
for planning a max distance attempt (horizon skimmers at both ends) and old
keps are probably useless for computer-control of radios and antennas.

And my planning for Field Day is going to be relatively unchanged.

73 Steve KS1G

From aj9n at aol.com  Tue May 15 08:47:26 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 04:47:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-15 08:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <16362fb9a27-1db7-268a3@webjas-vaa167.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-15 08:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



University of the Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-05-15 08:22:45 UTC 24 deg

?

Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***)

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 08:01:23 UTC 69 deg (***)

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (***)

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg (***)

?



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-15 08:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1227. ?
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1176. 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-08 06:30 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Tue May 15 12:59:54 2018
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 07:59:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] RadFxSat/Fox-1B Subject of SpaceDaily.com Article
Message-ID: <5afad9cb.1c69fb81.8cdba.0c8a@mx.google.com>

SpaceDaily.com published an article on May 15 which gives nice mention to
AMSAT, RadFxSat/Fox-1B: "What Happens After Launch: Two NASA Educational
CubeSats"

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/What_Happens_After_Launch_Two_NASA_Educati
onal_CubeSats_999.html

or try http://tinyurl.com/AMSAT-RadFX-Fox1B if the -bb line wrap clobbers
the URL.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From royldean at gmail.com  Tue May 15 13:59:18 2018
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 09:59:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RadFxSat/Fox-1B Subject of SpaceDaily.com Article
Message-ID: <CADGPg2u4mT+yiQgz-MVNmenK-wJZWsUFEJzSR5aqBLdHMHSffw@mail.gmail.com>

I clicked on the "RadFxSat" link at the bottom (of the article), and
it appears that the specs are all wrong?   Or am I just really
ill-informed?


--Roy

K3RLD



> SpaceDaily.com published an article on May 15 which gives nice mention to
> AMSAT, RadFxSat/Fox-1B: "What Happens After Launch: Two NASA Educational
> CubeSats"
> http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/What_Happens_After_Launch_Two_NASA_Educati
> onal_CubeSats_999.html or try http://tinyurl.com/AMSAT-RadFX-Fox1B if the
> -bb line wrap clobbers
> the URL. --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue May 15 14:05:39 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 10:05:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RadFxSat/Fox-1B Subject of SpaceDaily.com Article
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2u4mT+yiQgz-MVNmenK-wJZWsUFEJzSR5aqBLdHMHSffw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2u4mT+yiQgz-MVNmenK-wJZWsUFEJzSR5aqBLdHMHSffw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrSRRPLSY6dStJvfCY5-_DP5YTuodfiseCAJU42F6iLpg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes. That link describes Argus, another CubeSat with a Vanderbilt
radiation experiment that was lost in the Super Strypi launch failure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARK_(rocket)

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
> I clicked on the "RadFxSat" link at the bottom (of the article), and
> it appears that the specs are all wrong?   Or am I just really
> ill-informed?
>
>
> --Roy
>
> K3RLD
>
>
>
>> SpaceDaily.com published an article on May 15 which gives nice mention to
>> AMSAT, RadFxSat/Fox-1B: "What Happens After Launch: Two NASA Educational
>> CubeSats"
>> http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/What_Happens_After_Launch_Two_NASA_Educati
>> onal_CubeSats_999.html or try http://tinyurl.com/AMSAT-RadFX-Fox1B if the
>> -bb line wrap clobbers
>> the URL. --
>> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
>> k9jkm at amsat.org <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> _______________________________________________
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From aj9n at aol.com  Wed May 16 07:08:55 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 03:08:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-16 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <16367c7c4f3-1dd7-2c9f5@webjas-vae180.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-16 07:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



University of the Philippines Integrated School, Quezon City, Philippines, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact was successful: Tue 2018-05-15 08:22:45 UTC 24 deg (***)

?

Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 08:01:23 UTC 69 deg

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 (***)

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-16 07:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1228. (***) ?
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1177. ?(***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-16 07:00 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?





From max at boryspil.net.ua  Wed May 16 11:57:50 2018
From: max at boryspil.net.ua (Max)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 14:57:50 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-706MKIIG work through satellites
In-Reply-To: <16367c7c4f3-1dd7-2c9f5@webjas-vae180.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <16367c7c4f3-1dd7-2c9f5@webjas-vae180.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <dbaf3183-5814-93a9-5e1e-86315e71f17c@boryspil.net.ua>

Good afternoon,

Tell me, please, what I need to start working through satellites using 
this transceiver.

Thank you.

From royldean at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:36:24 2018
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 08:36:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-706MKIIG work through satellites
Message-ID: <CADGPg2udZbjiW4eg8B10D30BW1bD_CY1_dzVEaUSuHhRU1X7Lw@mail.gmail.com>

Max,

I have recently purchased the same transceiver.   If you plan on operating
half duplex on linear sats, check out W5PFG's video here:

https://youtu.be/vke3pWkKULU

Not the same transceiver, but what Clayton shows is how to operate using a
split frequency with the A and B VFO's, which the 706 also can do.   If you
have a second transceiver, or a receiver (such as a decent SDR), then you
can operate full duplex.   I have not attempted either, yet (as weather has
not be cooperating here in the Northeast USA).

FM is basically the same (half duplex with split frequency), but you need
to enable tone on uplink vfo for full functionality (and much less tuning,
especially on 2m).

--Roy
K3RLD



> Good afternoon, Tell me, please, what I need to start working through
> satellites using
> this transceiver. Thank you.

From royldean at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:40:49 2018
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 08:40:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-706MKIIG work through satellites
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sP0JkGN6MdOsWP=fnDxL54ehiRsrxA+=+MHpb1iiF7+A@mail.gmail.com>

 Oh, I forgot to mention - be sure to start at "L" Tx power on the linears
and work your way up from there.   As I said below, I don't have experience
as to how each of the "L, 1-9, H" power settings are correlated to the
published max values for 70cm and 2m, but more than 5 watts on the linears
can cause serious problems for some sats (AO-07) and can cause annoying
problems for other users on all of them.

--Roy
K3RLD



> Max, I have recently purchased the same transceiver. If you plan on
> operating
> half duplex on linear sats, check out W5PFG's video here:
> https://youtu.be/vke3pWkKULU Not the same transceiver, but what Clayton
> shows is how to operate using a
> split frequency with the A and B VFO's, which the 706 also can do. If you
> have a second transceiver, or a receiver (such as a decent SDR), then you
> can operate full duplex. I have not attempted either, yet (as weather has
> not be cooperating here in the Northeast USA). FM is basically the same
> (half duplex with split frequency), but you need
> to enable tone on uplink vfo for full functionality (and much less tuning,
> especially on 2m). --Roy
> K3RLD >* Good afternoon, Tell me, please, what I need to start working
> through *>* satellites using *>* this transceiver. Thank you.*

From w9gb at icloud.com  Wed May 16 13:32:45 2018
From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 08:32:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
Message-ID: <CF712A77-E622-4234-8174-99E3315E46FC@icloud.com>

Good laugh, when I read the Subject line.

TLEs are like fresh fruit and baked bread .... 
Best when first acquired ... with diminishing returns since picked or baked.

w9gb

From tasmac at w5pfg.us  Wed May 16 15:45:02 2018
From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 10:45:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FOR SALE: WaveNode WN-2D, WebSwitch 1216H, Astron RS-70A,
 12VDC relays
Message-ID: <353d6ccb-abcc-d01e-1265-c1cd6529d31c@w5pfg.us>

Shack cleaning. Several items great for remote station operation for sale:

WaveNode WN-2D SWR/power meter with graphical display. Total $700+ new.
Included sensors below. All four sensors can be inline and connected 
simultaneously. This is a top of the line unit!
     HF-1 Sensor (1.8-60 MHz - up to 2000 watts)
     SHF-3 Sensor (950-1300 MHz - up to 100 watts)
     UHF-2KW (120-170 MHz - up to 2000 watts)
     UHF-1 (120-470 MHz - up to 300 watts)
$515 shipped for above package


WebSwitch 1216H - Great for remote shack/rig/rotor control or drive relays.
$125 shipped


Astron RS-70A Power Supply - Like new in box, unused.
$250 shipped


2x Tohtsu CX-520-D 12VDC SPDT coaxial relays with N connector. Were used 
indoors and are clean. Power leads & diodes installed.
$75 shipped as pair, will not separate

Prefer PayPal. Reply off-list.

-- 
73,
Clayton
W5PFG

From max at boryspil.net.ua  Wed May 16 16:55:22 2018
From: max at boryspil.net.ua (Max)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 19:55:22 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-706MKIIG work through satellites
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2udZbjiW4eg8B10D30BW1bD_CY1_dzVEaUSuHhRU1X7Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2udZbjiW4eg8B10D30BW1bD_CY1_dzVEaUSuHhRU1X7Lw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59c6174c-baaf-bbd5-9e3b-9847e57b1cef@boryspil.net.ua>

Thanks for the answer.
Maybe the colleges will advise the CAT system on optocouplers (PC817) to 
work through Orbitron.
Which stationary antennas for working through satellites are better to 
use, if possible, a silk on the design or site.
Thank you.


16.05.2018 15:36, Roy Dean ????:
> Max,
>
> I have recently purchased the same transceiver.   If you plan on operating
> half duplex on linear sats, check out W5PFG's video here:
>
> https://youtu.be/vke3pWkKULU
>
> Not the same transceiver, but what Clayton shows is how to operate using a
> split frequency with the A and B VFO's, which the 706 also can do.   If you
> have a second transceiver, or a receiver (such as a decent SDR), then you
> can operate full duplex.   I have not attempted either, yet (as weather has
> not be cooperating here in the Northeast USA).
>
> FM is basically the same (half duplex with split frequency), but you need
> to enable tone on uplink vfo for full functionality (and much less tuning,
> especially on 2m).
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>
>
>> Good afternoon, Tell me, please, what I need to start working through
>> satellites using
>> this transceiver. Thank you.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From martha at amsat.org  Wed May 16 19:29:03 2018
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 15:29:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID: <CAPk0USzmdCQcx4-KMY2wAEHxQdTgkbmjh8PtMvF4Kwfg+zwPqg@mail.gmail.com>

The AMSAT Office will be closed through Monday, May 21st.  We will reopen
on Tuesday, May 22nd

-- 
73- Martha

From vimone at alice.it  Wed May 16 20:06:45 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 22:06:45 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube+Wisp+TS-2000
Message-ID: <000001d3ed51$6abb73c0$40325b40$@alice.it>

Hello folks,

hope someone can give me an hand.

Finally I  had success to interface the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus with the
Wisp program

Using the SDRSharp program, the Wisp program and Andy's UZ7HO High Speed
SuondModem program

All interfaced with the HW Virtual Serial Port.

It worked great but now I would like to insert in this loop my Kenwood
TS-2000X to transmit

To the satellite to request the DIR or the messages.
Anybody can point me how to do it?

Any help will be really appreciated.

 

 

73's de Enzo IK8OZV

EasyLog 5 BetaTester

EasyLog PDA BetaTester

WinBollet BetaTester

D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania

Skype: ik8ozv8520

 

 

 

 

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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Thu May 17 03:17:42 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 23:17:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release No. 18-07
Message-ID: <CC35E0512E784098982FB803089BF1A4@DHJ>

 


 

                                      ARISS NEWS RELEASE                                  

no. 18-07                                                                                                                                                       

                                                                          

 

May 16, 2018                                                                                                               

David Jordan, AA4KN

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org

 

Hamvention and ARISS Work Together 



The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station team (ARISS) is happy to announce that Hamvention and ARISS are working together again this year.  Hamvention's 2018 theme is, "Amateur Radio.Serving the Community."  ARISS serves communities by inspiring great numbers of youth to explore STEM and Amateur Radio. 

 

ARISS is kicking off its 2018 fund-raising campaign at Hamvention to raise money for the expensive space-rated parts needed to finish building the required multiple units of the custom-built Multi-Voltage Power Supply, and to help defray some costs of continuing ARISS operations.  The power supply is part of the next gen ARISS Interoperable Radio System to replace the intermittent, aging ISS amateur radio station.

 

ARISS Chair Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, said, "Having Hamvention partner with ARISS really puts our 2018 funding campaign into gear."


Hamvention's support began with a post on the convention's front web page. The posting discussed teaming up with ARISS, and announcing a special ARISS prize drawing at the convention, and the need for hams to contribute to ARISS right now by going to http://www.ariss.org/donate.html  or stopping at the ARISS Hamvention booth.

 

The double boost to ARISS by Hamvention is the featuring of the ARISS Challenge Coin at a special drawing just minutes before the convention's big prize drawings on the final day.  Thousands of people will hear about the ARISS Challenge Coin and  how ARISS inspires students to engage in STEM studies and radio technology.

 

2018 Hamvention Prize Committee Chairman Bill Serra, N8NRT, wrote, "We are happy to be able to make the ARISS Challenge Coin a very special part of Sunday's prize awards."  



ARISS donated two of its handsome coins positioned side by side in a beautiful display, showing off each of the coin's sides.  This ARISS Challenge Coin is the premium received by donors who give $100 or more to ARISS.  



The ARISS team will welcome convention goers at the ARISS booth in Building 1 through the weekend to donate and see a mock-up of the Multi-Voltage Power Supply that ARISS will launch in the future.  A raffle is being held at the booth to win a coin-the owner of the ticket pulled does not have to be present to win.  For those unable to make the trip to Xenia, readers can donate any amount by going to http://www.ariss.org/donate.html   

 

ARISS thanked everyone on the Hamvention staff whose personal efforts are aiding ARISS in its fund-raising and publicity goals. 

 

Rosalie White, K1STO, ARISS-US Delegate for ARRL, added: "We are so pleased and proud to know that Hamvention believes in the ARISS team and its goals of piquing the interest of young people and communities in a quite unique "wow way" for STEM and Amateur Radio."

 

 

About ARISS

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

 

For specific ARISS information, please go to:  www.ariss.org

 

Join us on Facebook:  Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) 

Follow us on Twitter:  ARISS_status

Contact:

David Jordan, AA4KN

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org


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From tom.k3io at gmail.com  Thu May 17 04:20:18 2018
From: tom.k3io at gmail.com (Tom Clark)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 00:20:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Helical Antenna Question
Message-ID: <79804049-7e90-ead7-2fa5-b5341412c8ed@gmail.com>

Let me offer as a reference 
https://www.cv.nrao.edu/~demerson/helixgain/helix.htm by Darrell 
Emerson, AA7FV.

FYI, Darrell is an AMSAT member and he is the only person ever to 
achieve ZRO level 9 (see QEX, Jan 92. pg17 or online at 
http://www.qsl.net/aa7fv/DSPweak.htm) by copying a weak signal sent thru 
AO-13 at 0, -3, -6 ... -27 dB level steps.

73 de Tom, K3IO


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From aj9n at aol.com  Thu May 17 05:35:08 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 01:35:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-17 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <1636c98459b-17a6-a287@webjas-vad177.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-17 06:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 08:01:23 UTC 69 deg

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg

Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/??? (***)

?



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 (***)

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-17 06:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1228. ??
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1177. ?
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-16 07:00 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

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From redski at bellsouth.net  Thu May 17 18:02:18 2018
From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M WILLOUGHBY)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 13:02:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Forum at Hamvention
Message-ID: <8724A0B5-567C-4ABC-9B96-0329363ED22B@bellsouth.net>

Will the Saturday afternoon AMSAT Forum at Hamvention be live streamed or otherwise recorded and posted online?
Thanks,
Red
KC4LE 



From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu May 17 19:45:09 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 15:45:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Forum at Hamvention
In-Reply-To: <8724A0B5-567C-4ABC-9B96-0329363ED22B@bellsouth.net>
References: <8724A0B5-567C-4ABC-9B96-0329363ED22B@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOojhu8Ec_b9QAbSmk1kURE_4MEmijhUH=ty-pSp+c8Cbg@mail.gmail.com>

It will be recorded and posted online at least. I am not sure about
live-streaming.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 14:03 W M WILLOUGHBY <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Will the Saturday afternoon AMSAT Forum at Hamvention be live streamed or
> otherwise recorded and posted online?
> Thanks,
> Red
> KC4LE
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From jmtrewitt at gmail.com  Thu May 17 19:49:59 2018
From: jmtrewitt at gmail.com (Jordan Trewitt)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 14:49:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Forum at Hamvention
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOojhu8Ec_b9QAbSmk1kURE_4MEmijhUH=ty-pSp+c8Cbg@mail.gmail.com>
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It'd be fun to use Jerry's twitch account for Livestreaming.
-Jordan

On Thu, May 17, 2018, 2:46 PM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> It will be recorded and posted online at least. I am not sure about
> live-streaming.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 14:03 W M WILLOUGHBY <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > Will the Saturday afternoon AMSAT Forum at Hamvention be live streamed or
> > otherwise recorded and posted online?
> > Thanks,
> > Red
> > KC4LE
> >
> >
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From redski at bellsouth.net  Thu May 17 20:14:54 2018
From: redski at bellsouth.net (redski at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 15:14:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Forum at Hamvention
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Good deal - thanks!


From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu May 17 22:04:53 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 18:04:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Forum at Hamvention
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It?s possible that the forums will be streamed here.

https://hamvention.org/media-news/live-streaming/

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 16:23 <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Good deal - thanks!
>
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From va7kbm at outlook.com  Thu May 17 17:37:39 2018
From: va7kbm at outlook.com (Ken M)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 17:37:39 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
Message-ID: <CO2PR01MB20714F1A2CAAE5C12DE6F4CC98910@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello AMSATers,

I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either 
at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two 
common scenarios:

1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use 
with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).

2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM 
satellites, or for non-satellite use).

I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design) 
that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each 
other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same 
recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the 
satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field 
use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if 
recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.) 
so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can 
record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy 
alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for 
logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.

Thanks & 73!
Ken VA7KBM


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Fri May 18 00:21:43 2018
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 00:21:43 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
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Ken,

It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
using to hear the downlink.

For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
QSOs.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK


On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> common scenarios:
>
> 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
>
> 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> satellites, or for non-satellite use).
>
> I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
>
> Thanks & 73!
> Ken VA7KBM
>
>
>

From kx9x at yahoo.com  Fri May 18 00:27:07 2018
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 00:27:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <476717827.2532707.1526603227157@mail.yahoo.com>

For half-duplex work, I just use any USB recorder and put it in a pouch and wear the pouch around my neck, or put the recorder in a t-shirt pocket. Simple and effective.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X 

    On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 8:23:24 PM EDT, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:  
 
 Ken,

It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
using to hear the downlink.

For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
QSOs.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK


On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> common scenarios:
>
> 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
>
> 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> satellites, or for non-satellite use).
>
> I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
>
> Thanks & 73!
> Ken VA7KBM
>
>
>
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From va7kbm at outlook.com  Fri May 18 01:46:17 2018
From: va7kbm at outlook.com (Ken M)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 01:46:17 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Patrick,

Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for not thinking of that!).

For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I?m looking for a wired solution so I don?t record background noise (and I use a headset). Anyway, that?s not a satellite application so I?ll take the question elsewhere.

Thanks!
73 Ken VA7KBM

On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:

Ken,

It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
using to hear the downlink.

For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
QSOs.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK


On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
Hello AMSATers,

I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
common scenarios:

1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).

2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
satellites, or for non-satellite use).

I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.

Thanks & 73!
Ken VA7KBM



From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Fri May 18 12:10:49 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 08:10:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <CO2PR01MB20714F1A2CAAE5C12DE6F4CC98910@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8N76vEx2tDTfKunfTQSGCwGLVOMvty6RXNsu-xN1Q12+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX one
for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.

73, Don KB2YSI

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
> not thinking of that!).
>
> For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I?m
> looking for a wired solution so I don?t record background noise (and I use
> a headset). Anyway, that?s not a satellite application so I?ll take the
> question elsewhere.
>
> Thanks!
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
>
> On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
> amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
> record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
> you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
> on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
> audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
> using to hear the downlink.
>
> For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
> a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
> voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
> QSOs.
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:
> va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> common scenarios:
>
> 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
>
> 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> satellites, or for non-satellite use).
>
> I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
>
> Thanks & 73!
> Ken VA7KBM
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri May 18 12:48:07 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 08:48:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
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I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one
day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on
Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to
right.

For me I plug my headphones into the recorder to monitor the radio so I
would have to splice the left channel to both right and left so I didn't
have my external mic audio in one ear and the radio in the other.

One reason I want to do this is because it will make transcribing QSOs from
the recording easier. Just open the waveform in Audacity or another similar
app and you can see anytime you talk on the local mic. Skip there and
transcribe the contact. Otherwise for me at least I end up having to listen
through a lot/most of the recording trying to find myself.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:13 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX one
> for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.
>
> 73, Don KB2YSI
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
> > not thinking of that!).
> >
> > For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I?m
> > looking for a wired solution so I don?t record background noise (and I
> use
> > a headset). Anyway, that?s not a satellite application so I?ll take the
> > question elsewhere.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
> > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
> > record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
> > you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
> > on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
> > audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
> > using to hear the downlink.
> >
> > For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
> > a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
> > voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
> > QSOs.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:
> > va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
> > Hello AMSATers,
> >
> > I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> > at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> > common scenarios:
> >
> > 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> > with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
> >
> > 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> > satellites, or for non-satellite use).
> >
> > I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> > that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> > other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> > recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> > satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> > use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> > recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> > so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> > record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> > alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> > logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
> >
> > Thanks & 73!
> > Ken VA7KBM
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Fri May 18 14:39:54 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 10:39:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
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	<CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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That would make logging much easier!

73, Don KB2YSI

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:48 John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one
> day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on
> Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to
> right.
>
> For me I plug my headphones into the recorder to monitor the radio so I
> would have to splice the left channel to both right and left so I didn't
> have my external mic audio in one ear and the radio in the other.
>
> One reason I want to do this is because it will make transcribing QSOs
> from the recording easier. Just open the waveform in Audacity or another
> similar app and you can see anytime you talk on the local mic. Skip there
> and transcribe the contact. Otherwise for me at least I end up having to
> listen through a lot/most of the recording trying to find myself.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:13 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX one
>> for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.
>>
>> 73, Don KB2YSI
>>
>> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Patrick,
>> >
>> > Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
>> > not thinking of that!).
>> >
>> > For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I?m
>> > looking for a wired solution so I don?t record background noise (and I
>> use
>> > a headset). Anyway, that?s not a satellite application so I?ll take the
>> > question elsewhere.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
>> >
>> > On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
>> > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ken,
>> >
>> > It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
>> > record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
>> > you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
>> > on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
>> > audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
>> > using to hear the downlink.
>> >
>> > For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
>> > a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
>> > voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
>> > QSOs.
>> >
>> > 73!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>> > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:
>> > va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
>> > Hello AMSATers,
>> >
>> > I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
>> > at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
>> > common scenarios:
>> >
>> > 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
>> > with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
>> >
>> > 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
>> > satellites, or for non-satellite use).
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
>> > that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
>> > other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
>> > recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
>> > satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
>> > use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
>> > recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
>> > so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
>> > record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
>> > alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
>> > logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
>> >
>> > Thanks & 73!
>> > Ken VA7KBM
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>

From w9gb at icloud.com  Fri May 18 14:52:15 2018
From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 09:52:15 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
Message-ID: <D918C4AC-B597-471B-AF9D-60DBEFB7F368@icloud.com>

????
Clint,
I have been working satellites since Oscar 6, when I was in high school.
Worked STS-9 (Owen Garriott, Spacehab-1) when I was in graduate college.

No need for education or evangelizing. 
73.

greg, w9gb
AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-UK
Sent from iPad Air

> 
> On May 17, 2018, at 8:43 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> If you are working the ISS (fruitless right now), I would update every week, because 
> they re-position themselves a couple times a month. NOTHING drastic, but that is 
> where the slight difference is from week-to-week.
> 
> And since you?re updating already, snag ?em all (grin).
> 
> If not working the ISS - every couple weeks or up to a month is fine.
> 
> Clint K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
> 909-999-SATS



From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Fri May 18 12:24:19 2018
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 07:24:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8N76vEx2tDTfKunfTQSGCwGLVOMvty6RXNsu-xN1Q12+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CO2PR01MB20714F1A2CAAE5C12DE6F4CC98910@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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Message-ID: <CAHKCqnCYZ7d1Lr=224HHSSkTH1wver-6PJstBgsVOKGz4tEN-A@mail.gmail.com>

Any stereo recorder would allow two inputs, L & R.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 07:11 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX one
> for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.
>
> 73, Don KB2YSI
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
> > not thinking of that!).
> >
> > For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I?m
> > looking for a wired solution so I don?t record background noise (and I
> use
> > a headset). Anyway, that?s not a satellite application so I?ll take the
> > question elsewhere.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
> > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
> > record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
> > you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
> > on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
> > audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
> > using to hear the downlink.
> >
> > For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
> > a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
> > voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
> > QSOs.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:
> > va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
> > Hello AMSATers,
> >
> > I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> > at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> > common scenarios:
> >
> > 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> > with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
> >
> > 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> > satellites, or for non-satellite use).
> >
> > I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> > that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> > other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> > recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> > satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> > use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> > recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> > so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> > record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> > alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> > logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
> >
> > Thanks & 73!
> > Ken VA7KBM
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
--
Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

From skristof at etczone.com  Fri May 18 15:17:03 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:17:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] when are TLE's too old to use?
In-Reply-To: <D918C4AC-B597-471B-AF9D-60DBEFB7F368@icloud.com>
References: <D918C4AC-B597-471B-AF9D-60DBEFB7F368@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <e3c2822a79c41825cf6608cc4f253d9a@etczone.com>

Clint was reasonably responding to another member's reasonable question.


It's not all about you, Greg. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-18 10:52, Gregory Beat wrote:

> ????
> Clint,
> I have been working satellites since Oscar 6, when I was in high school.
> Worked STS-9 (Owen Garriott, Spacehab-1) when I was in graduate college.
> 
> No need for education or evangelizing. 
> 73.
> 
> greg, w9gb
> AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-UK
> Sent from iPad Air
> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:43 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are working the ISS (fruitless right now), I would update every week, because 
>> they re-position themselves a couple times a month. NOTHING drastic, but that is 
>> where the slight difference is from week-to-week.
>> 
>> And since you're updating already, snag 'em all (grin).
>> 
>> If not working the ISS - every couple weeks or up to a month is fine.
>> 
>> Clint K6LCS
>> http://www.work-sat.com
>> 909-999-SATS
> 
> _______________________________________________

From jim at milnet.uk.net  Fri May 18 17:55:21 2018
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 18:55:21 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode change
In-Reply-To: <ebffc6c2-4ea7-013a-9f8d-a6191257003c@btinternet.com>
References: <ebffc6c2-4ea7-013a-9f8d-a6191257003c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <8E2D602402324BAFB2788674B68121B7@jimPC2>

Hi All,

FUNcube-1 is now operating in forced eclipse mode, ie with transponder on 
full time until Sunday evening (UTC).

Have fun!

73

Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team. 


From vimone at alice.it  Fri May 18 19:58:57 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 21:58:57 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat With Wisp and Kenwood TS-200  Internal TNC
Message-ID: <000a01d3eee2$a8b6acc0$fa240640$@alice.it>

Hi folks,

Is there any one that uses the Kenwood  TS-2000 and Wisp

Using the internal TNC to RX/TX on Falconsat-3?

I cannot get success. I can RX but cannot TX since there is the signal.

Please can somebody give me the correct settings.

Actually I have the following settings in the radio:

 

Menu 46 SUB

Menu 47 9600Bps

Menu 48 TNC BAND

Menu 55 On 

 

On the main band I have set the TX frequency 145.840 FM for the Uplink and

On the Sub Band the RX Frequency 435.103 FM for the Downlink. 

The PTT is set on the maid band.

When the MSPE program starts, I can see the STA and CON LEDs flashing for
three times

That indicates the radio is gone in kiss mode.

I can see the data coming in, but when I go to request the directory or a
message the radio does not

Go in TX since there is no signal on the  SUB band but it TX on the SUB Band
instead to TX on the Main one.

Vice versa if while I am receiving, I go to request the directory or a
message the radio does not go in TX since there is no signal on the  SUB
band,

But if I entry in the menu 46 and change for a second from SUB to MAIN the
radio goes TX and it goes on  the correct Band the Main

Which is set for the Uplink then I have to switch back the Menu 46 from MAIN
to SUB again otherwise I will not get anymore the incoming data.

Please what am I doing wrong or which settings is wrong in the radio?

Please any help will be really appreciated.

 

 

 

73's de Enzo IK8OZV

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From vimone at alice.it  Fri May 18 20:23:47 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 22:23:47 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat With Wisp and Kenwood TS-200  Internal TNC
Message-ID: <000001d3eee6$20fcbf00$62f63d00$@alice.it>

Hi folks,

Is there any one that uses the Kenwood  TS-2000 and Wisp

Using the internal TNC to RX/TX on Falconsat-3?

I cannot get success. I can RX but cannot TX since there is the signal.

Please can somebody give me the correct settings.

Actually I have the following settings in the radio:

 

Menu 46 SUB

Menu 47 9600Bps

Menu 48 TNC BAND

Menu 55 On 

 

On the main band I have set the TX frequency 145.840 FM for the Uplink and

On the Sub Band the RX Frequency 435.103 FM for the Downlink. 

The PTT is set on the maid band.

When the MSPE program starts, I can see the STA and CON LEDs flashing for
three times

That indicates the radio is gone in kiss mode.

I can see the data coming in, but when I go to request the directory or a
message the radio does not

Go in TX since there is no signal on the  SUB band but it TX on the SUB Band
instead to TX on the Main one.

Vice versa if while I am receiving, I go to request the directory or a
message the radio does not go in TX since there is no signal on the  SUB
band,

But if I entry in the menu 46 and change for a second from SUB to MAIN the
radio goes TX and it goes on  the correct Band the Main

Which is set for the Uplink then I have to switch back the Menu 46 from MAIN
to SUB again otherwise I will not get anymore the incoming data.

Please what am I doing wrong or which settings is wrong in the radio?

Please any help will be really appreciated.

 

 

 

73's de Enzo IK8OZV

EasyLog 5 BetaTester

EasyLog PDA BetaTester

WinBollet BetaTester

D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania

Skype: ik8ozv8520

 

 

 

 

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      ******       SMS  +39 328 7110193      ******

      *************************************

 


From vimone at alice.it  Fri May 18 20:23:47 2018
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 22:23:47 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat With Wisp and Kenwood TS-200  Internal TNC
Message-ID: <000501d3eee6$2146c050$63d440f0$@alice.it>

Hi folks,

Is there any one that uses the Kenwood  TS-2000 and Wisp

Using the internal TNC to RX/TX on Falconsat-3?

I cannot get success. I can RX but cannot TX since there is the signal.

Please can somebody give me the correct settings.

Actually I have the following settings in the radio:

 

Menu 46 SUB

Menu 47 9600Bps

Menu 48 TNC BAND

Menu 55 On 

 

On the main band I have set the TX frequency 145.840 FM for the Uplink and

On the Sub Band the RX Frequency 435.103 FM for the Downlink. 

The PTT is set on the maid band.

When the MSPE program starts, I can see the STA and CON LEDs flashing for
three times

That indicates the radio is gone in kiss mode.

I can see the data coming in, but when I go to request the directory or a
message the radio does not

Go in TX since there is no signal on the  SUB band but it TX on the SUB Band
instead to TX on the Main one.

Vice versa if while I am receiving, I go to request the directory or a
message the radio does not go in TX since there is no signal on the  SUB
band,

But if I entry in the menu 46 and change for a second from SUB to MAIN the
radio goes TX and it goes on  the correct Band the Main

Which is set for the Uplink then I have to switch back the Menu 46 from MAIN
to SUB again otherwise I will not get anymore the incoming data.

Please what am I doing wrong or which settings is wrong in the radio?

Please any help will be really appreciated.

 

 

 

73's de Enzo IK8OZV

EasyLog 5 BetaTester

EasyLog PDA BetaTester

WinBollet BetaTester

D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania

Skype: ik8ozv8520

 

 

 

 

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      *************************************

 


From skristof at etczone.com  Fri May 18 20:32:33 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 16:32:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMgB-Oh72CdFRBCbeuc6ObSHBSx_N2fNjJLUg2XDgGTdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CO2PR01MB20714F1A2CAAE5C12DE6F4CC98910@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAAJiE8N76vEx2tDTfKunfTQSGCwGLVOMvty6RXNsu-xN1Q12+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMgB-Oh72CdFRBCbeuc6ObSHBSx_N2fNjJLUg2XDgGTdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ae0359359978106991021dbbe4670529@etczone.com>

John, I'm having a hard time finding a channel splitter on Amazon. Do
you happen to have a brand name or possibly a URL link to the one that's
working for you? Thanks! 

Steve AI9IN 

On 2018-05-18 08:48, John Brier wrote:

> I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one
> day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on
> Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to
> right.
> 
> For me I plug my headphones into the recorder to monitor the radio so I
> would have to splice the left channel to both right and left so I didn't
> have my external mic audio in one ear and the radio in the other.
> 
> One reason I want to do this is because it will make transcribing QSOs from
> the recording easier. Just open the waveform in Audacity or another similar
> app and you can see anytime you talk on the local mic. Skip there and
> transcribe the contact. Otherwise for me at least I end up having to listen
> through a lot/most of the recording trying to find myself.
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> 
> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:13 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX one
> for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.
> 
> 73, Don KB2YSI
> 
> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
> not thinking of that!).
> 
> For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I'm
> looking for a wired solution so I don't record background noise (and I use a headset). Anyway, that's not a satellite application so I'll take the
> question elsewhere.
> 
> Thanks!
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
> 
> On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
> amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> 
> It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
> record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
> you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
> on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
> audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
> using to hear the downlink.
> 
> For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
> a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
> voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
> QSOs.
> 
> 73!
> 
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> 
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:
> va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
> Hello AMSATers,
> 
> I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> common scenarios:
> 
> 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
> 
> 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> satellites, or for non-satellite use).
> 
> I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
> 
> Thanks & 73!
> Ken VA7KBM
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
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From va7kbm at outlook.com  Fri May 18 16:45:51 2018
From: va7kbm at outlook.com (Ken M)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 16:45:51 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8OUN0VtQFeaSUThX4RqSZkQ4E+-6eY=5q1aRM6QCu-LQg@mail.gmail.com>
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John, I think your solution might work and would be simple - a noise-cancelling lapel microphone would be ideal - unless the radio audio out and the microphone sharing a common ground leads to RFI issues. A lot easier than bringing a portable mixer into the field! Audacity is a fabulous program which I use to pre-process SSTV audio data among other things.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

73 Ken VA7KBM

On 2018-05-18 07:39, Don KB2YSI wrote:
That would make logging much easier!

73, Don KB2YSI

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:48 John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com<mailto:johnbrier at gmail.com>> wrote:
I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to right.

For me I plug my headphones into the recorder to monitor the radio so I would have to splice the left channel to both right and left so I didn't have my external mic audio in one ear and the radio in the other.

One reason I want to do this is because it will make transcribing QSOs from the recording easier. Just open the waveform in Audacity or another similar app and you can see anytime you talk on the local mic. Skip there and transcribe the contact. Otherwise for me at least I end up having to listen through a lot/most of the recording trying to find myself.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:13 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com<mailto:kb2ysi at gmail.com>> wrote:
I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX one
for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.

73, Don KB2YSI

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
> not thinking of that!).
>
> For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I?m
> looking for a wired solution so I don?t record background noise (and I use
> a headset). Anyway, that?s not a satellite application so I?ll take the
> question elsewhere.
>
> Thanks!
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
>
> On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
> amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net><mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>>> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
> record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
> you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
> on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
> audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
> using to hear the downlink.
>
> For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
> a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
> voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
> QSOs.
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:va7kbm at outlook.com><mailto:
> va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:va7kbm at outlook.com>>> wrote:
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> common scenarios:
>
> 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
>
> 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> satellites, or for non-satellite use).
>
> I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
>
> Thanks & 73!
> Ken VA7KBM
>
>
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> expressed
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat May 19 02:51:40 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 22:51:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
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Probably because I used the wrong term. It is a breakout cable. Here is
what I have. Haven't used it yet, but it should work.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000068O5H?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 16:34 <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> John, I'm having a hard time finding a channel splitter on Amazon. Do
> you happen to have a brand name or possibly a URL link to the one that's
> working for you? Thanks!
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2018-05-18 08:48, John Brier wrote:
>
> > I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one
> > day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on
> > Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to
> > right.
> >
> > For me I plug my headphones into the recorder to monitor the radio so I
> > would have to splice the left channel to both right and left so I didn't
> > have my external mic audio in one ear and the radio in the other.
> >
> > One reason I want to do this is because it will make transcribing QSOs
> from
> > the recording easier. Just open the waveform in Audacity or another
> similar
> > app and you can see anytime you talk on the local mic. Skip there and
> > transcribe the contact. Otherwise for me at least I end up having to
> listen
> > through a lot/most of the recording trying to find myself.
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Fri, May 18, 2018, 08:13 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would think there is a dual input recorder available, one for the RX
> one
> > for the mic, or use 2 recorders and splice the audio later.
> >
> > 73, Don KB2YSI
> >
> > On Fri, May 18, 2018, 04:25 Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > Of course you are right about full duplex recording (kicking myself for
> > not thinking of that!).
> >
> > For HF and all other half-duplex work, especially QRP from the field I'm
> > looking for a wired solution so I don't record background noise (and I
> use a headset). Anyway, that's not a satellite application so I'll take the
> > question elsewhere.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > On May 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
> > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net<mailto:amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > It really is simple, if you are working full-duplex. Just
> > record the RX audio. You get the full exchanges, since
> > you will hear yourself and the other stations. A splitter
> > on the speaker of the radio receiving the downlink can feed
> > audio to a recorder and headphones/earphone/earbuds you are
> > using to hear the downlink.
> >
> > For working HF or working satellites half-duplex, I just use
> > a recorder that picks up the radio's speaker audio and my
> > voice with its microphone. Then I get both sides of those
> > QSOs.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> > On Thursday, May 17, 2018, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com<mailto:
> > va7kbm at outlook.com>> wrote:
> > Hello AMSATers,
> >
> > I'm looking to record both TX and RX audio to a digital recorder, either
> > at the QTH or in the field (but mainly in the field), in either of two
> > common scenarios:
> >
> > 1. TX from one radio, and RX from a different radio (as in satellite use
> > with one radio for uplink and one for downlink).
> >
> > 2. TX/RX from the same radio (as in a full-duplex radio for FM
> > satellites, or for non-satellite use).
> >
> > I'm wondering if you know of a device (or a published circuit design)
> > that will allow TX/RX recording while isolating the radios from each
> > other and/or a radio's TX from it's RX, while linked to the same
> > recorder? I have to believe this is a well-solved problem within the
> > satellite radio community but I haven't found too many ideas for field
> > use. This is seems to be an easier problem to solve at the QTH if
> > recording to computer, with various sound interfaces (Signalink, etc.)
> > so my main interest is in field use with a digital recorder so I can
> > record my QSO's while juggling two radios plus antenna, etc. The easy
> > alternative is just to record the RX side, which is easy, and works for
> > logging but doesn't give you the full exchange.
> >
> > Thanks & 73!
> > Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From w1pa at hotmail.com  Fri May 18 20:32:46 2018
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:32:46 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
Message-ID: <FR1P152MB0405D5D5ABFEB1ACC31926FF98900@FR1P152MB0405.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

[[I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one
day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on
Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to
right.]]

I have been doing this for years. The key/trick is that you have to insert a 40db pad on the rig audio side because the audio levels (mic vs rig) are very different. Most audio recorders use a AGC of some sort, and with no balancing L to R, the AGC will adjust for the stronger rig audio, and lower its overall sensitivity so you won't hear the mic channel. Inserting the 40db pad balances the left and right and will give you good audio on both sides.

Bill W1PA


From aj9n at aol.com  Sat May 19 06:10:58 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 02:10:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-19 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <1637705c9e3-c90-801c@webjas-vae114.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-19 06:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-05-22 08:53:38 UTC 33 deg (***)

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg

Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/??

?



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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. ?Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-19 06:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1228. ??
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1177. ?
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-16 07:00 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

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Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From nanrspm at gmail.com  Sat May 19 11:38:13 2018
From: nanrspm at gmail.com (Tanan Rangseeprom)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 18:38:13 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] urgent help from AMSAT members worldwide
Message-ID: <CAMw-yOXvGQJ+UmQ2bSnModcNAtH86cFPicA=W4x+pXfeF07wHg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Paul Stoetzer, Executive Vice President of Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation (AMSAT-NA) and member of AMSAT-BB

 The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand under patronage of His Majesty the
King (RAST) would like to thank you for the SatPC32 program along with the
Registration Code for the HS0AJ Ground Station. I and members of RAST along
with the team building the JAISAT-1 satellite used your program to control
the Rotor with a V/U antenna to work automatically in order to receive
signals from amateur radio satellites that passed over Thailand. We have
posted a video on YouTube of this, along with audio from an IC-9100
transceiver, which you can view by using the link below or by searching
YouTube for the callsign HS0AJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldjAA6e_Pjs

 We have made an application to the Thai regulator, the National
Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) to set up ground
stations in different regions of Thailand in four locations, from North to
South and with the following callsigns:

 1. GS station in the North of Thailand, using the callsign HS0AN

 2. GS station in the South using the callsign HS0AS

 3. GS Station in the Northeast of Thailand using the callsign HS0AO

 4. GS station in the Central region of Thailand with the callsign HS0AL

We intend to post videos from all of these stations on YouTube, similar to
those from HS0AJ, and we will establish ground stations all over the
country in order to receive signals from satellites and to enable amateur
radio operators and others in Thailand who are interested to access videos
from these stations on YouTube.

However, now we are seeking urgent help from AMSAT members worldwide
because we are unable to contact the company Innovative Solutions In Space
(ISIS) with which RAST had signed a contract to buy components for a
U-class CubeSat but excluding the payload, being the Linear Transponder.
Since the beginning of this year up until now we have been unable to
contact ISIS, which is the reason for this appeal to you for urgent help in
the purchase of components for the Flight Model of the 1U CubeSat satellite
which is capable of carrying a payload of a Linear Transponder for RAST and
which has been assembled and has passed the testing phase.

Can anyone please provide some recommendations to us regarding the assembly
of the satellite ? and as quickly as possible? RAST and its members are
lacking experience in satellite assembly and for the initial testing phase
and we are appealing for suggestions as to where we can find suppliers of
CubeSat components and as to who can test them and send the satellite out
into space?

For your consideration, please find some YouTube links about testing and
building a Linear Transponder below:

Thermal vacuum test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8gebXAaj6M

Vibration Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e02iOwZdM8

Design PCB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61l6r1AtQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBwMD5y3nns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSb86DushF8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fXePZ-L86M

3D of JAISAT-1 Satellites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqO_3Q9vxo

JITTER OF LOCAL OSCILLATOR 190MHz and 390MHz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrSpHzPD-Y8



Sincerely and with respect,

Tanan Rangseeprom

From w1pa at hotmail.com  Fri May 18 20:39:08 2018
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:39:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <FR1P152MB0405D5D5ABFEB1ACC31926FF98900@FR1P152MB0405.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <FR1P152MB0405D5D5ABFEB1ACC31926FF98900@FR1P152MB0405.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hosa-Stereo-1-8-3-5-mm-Male-to-Dual-Mono-1-8-Female-Y-Cable-YMM-261-Adapter/323262785616?epid=1900117143&hash=item4b43f6a850:g:plQAAOSwxupa~zfa

You will likely have to build your own 40db pad ---? its two resisters.

Bill



From twdeckard at earthlink.net  Sat May 19 12:03:59 2018
From: twdeckard at earthlink.net (Todd W Deckard)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 07:03:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 168
In-Reply-To: <851A6297-0D99-4BB3-8AD5-98ED2D1B866F@earthlink.net>
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mailing list bounced my pedantic response due to attached image size ...

here?s a link to a parallel thread that has the image of ISS altitude over time.

http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/need-help-with-ascending-node.549308http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/need-help-with-ascending-node.549308//



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2018, at 6:43 AM, Todd W Deckard <twdeckard at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> As an aside, the ISS makes an adjustment approximately once a month.   They operate at a higher altitude now that the shuttle is no longer used for resupply.    Here is a plot from heavens-above.
> 
> <image1.png>
> 
> 
> I have observed that if you are using an Arduino or another processor with single precision math, the computed results age very quickly for any LEO and practically I must update every few days.
> 
> if you are using a more respectable math engine and are only concerned about the orbital elements; the error in the satellite position is approximately a kilometer at the epoch of the TLE.   Then the simplified perturbation model (SPG4) used by the common software we use loses about 1-2km a day.
> 
> all of this is a bit pedantic if you are hand pointing an antenna in the noble tradition ...
> 
> best
> Todd
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>>  4. FUNcube-1 mode change (Jim Heck)
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From stephan.a.greene at vencore.com  Sat May 19 14:32:09 2018
From: stephan.a.greene at vencore.com (Greene, Stephan A)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 14:32:09 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOgJOB_YJb74ebmnUc4U0kZ6o5thENeehyTjEF04scJxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CO2PR01MB20714F1A2CAAE5C12DE6F4CC98910@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAAJiE8N76vEx2tDTfKunfTQSGCwGLVOMvty6RXNsu-xN1Q12+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMgB-Oh72CdFRBCbeuc6ObSHBSx_N2fNjJLUg2XDgGTdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae0359359978106991021dbbe4670529@etczone.com>
	<CALn0fKOgJOB_YJb74ebmnUc4U0kZ6o5thENeehyTjEF04scJxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <905C3C6D2F7CC24386DD63AD6DE8D841EEFD29DF@DC7SWEXP002.corp.adroot.internal>

I think you want a "DJ splitter" cable.  Typically a stereo (TRS) plug
and two separate MONO output jacks, one for the left and one for the
right channel.  DJ's use one to monitor a track they are playing on one
channel while cueing up a 2nd track in their headphones; the DJ software
is configured to output to one track or the other.  Use when you have a
laptop or tablet with one audio output and don't want to or can't use a
mixer or 2nd (USB?) audio device.  Usually well-made because DJs hate
equipment failures mid-gig.  (and we hams hate equipment failures in
mid-pass!)  I have a Griffin DJ Cable and will have to test this myself.
Native Instruments (Traktor) and other DJ equipment vendors sell these.
$10-$12 give or take. 

The use in this thread is to combine 2 signals into one input jack,
while keeping them on separate tracks.  Play the recording back in
software like Audacity as suggested by others. 

I agree the easiest approach is wire a cheap electret mic for local
(Uplink) audio.  If you tap audio from your uplink radio mic input, you
may need to pad down the audio level to the recorder and take steps to
isolate the recording line from the radio input. 

The other "splitter" cable described connects left and right channels in
parallel and is intended .  Usually called a headphone audio splitter.
You may get a mess unless you wire the plugs from your downlink and
local audio to put signals on just one channel.   More trouble than it
is worth IMO.  YMMV.

73 Steve KS1G

-----Original Message-----
From: John Brier [mailto:johnbrier at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:52 PM
To: Steve Kristoff
Cc: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?

Probably because I used the wrong term. It is a breakout cable. Here is
what I have. Haven't used it yet, but it should work.

<url removed for berevity>

73, John Brier KG4AKV




From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sat May 19 15:25:11 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 17:25:11 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 to be launched towards the Moon
Message-ID: <7385fa9f-4792-b2b7-4407-fc67e77df7ab@xs4all.nl>

All,

The two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 are to be launched
towards the Moon from Xichang on 2018-05-20 around 21:00 UTC.
They carry radio amateur payloads with 2 m uplinks and 70 cm
downlinks. Amateurs will be able to receive telemetry downlinks
but will also be allowed to send telecommands for taking and
downlinking pictures. There are also plans to enable FreeDV digital
voice communications through these spacecraft.

The two LongJiang satellites are planned to perform formation
flying in a high elliptical orbit around the Moon (300 x 9000 km).
After launch it will take about 4 and a half days to reach the Moon.
This GMAT script should work well for the first days after launch:
https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang_NYC.script
The groundstation used in this script is a random location in New
York City. You can change this to your location by updating the
values under the GroundStation tab in GMAT.

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sat May 19 18:01:24 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 02:01:24 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Lunar Amateur Radio Mission to be Launched This
	Sunday
Message-ID: <287a0b20.349.163799035a7.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Dear OMs,

 

DSLWP is a lunar formation flying mission led by Harbin Institute of Technology for low frequency radio astronomy, amateur radio and education. It consists of a pair of 47 kg microsatellites, to be launched into a lunar transfer orbit UTC this Sunday evening, and finally enter a 300 x 9000km lunar elliptical orbit. Onboard each satellite, there are two VHF/UHF SDR transceivers to provide beacon, telemetry, telecommand, digital image downlink and a GMSK-JT4 repeater. Onboard transmitting power is about 2 W.

 

The first launch window will open at about 21:30 May 20th UTC. The transmitters will be activated soon after separation. Satellite A will transmit 500 baud GMSK with 1/4 turbo code on 435.425 MHz and 250 baud GMSK with 1/2 turbo code and precoder on 436.425 MHz, and satellite B will transmit 500 baud GMSK with 1/4 turbo code on 435.400 MHz and 250 baud GMSK with 1/2 turbo code and precoder on 436.400 MHz, in every 5 minutes by default. Each transmittion will last about 16 seconds. Radio amateurs in South America will have the earliest chance to receive the signals from the satellites, then North America, Oceania, Asia, Europe and Africa.

 

Harbin Institute of Technology Amateur Radio Club expects radio amateurs to join in this mission. We will prepare different QSL cards for different flight phase for amateurs successfully made QSO or received telemetry. Awards will also be given to the first 10 amateurs in each continent who successfully decoded the signals from the satellites, received the most number of packets, or received an image. Your participation will also help the team to get a better knowledge of the status of the satellites.

 

An open source decoding software based on GNU Radio to work with RTL-SDR and USRP is provided. Not difficult to change the grc files to support other SDR receivers. A small proxy software will send the decoded data to a server for real-time display.

 

Thank you very much and fingers crossed for a successful launch!

 

Best Regards,

 

Wei Mingchuan BG2BHC

 

Links:

IARU frequency coordination page: http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=530 

Link budgets: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/wp/?page_id=676 

Decoder (GNU Radio OOT module): https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp 

Decoder (Linux Live CD): https://1drv.ms/u/s!Av6J6WjI3UbMhHm8gwMr4Z_keqWH 

TLE: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/dslwp.txt 

DSLWP-A Telemetry Display: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-a.html 

DSLWP-B Telemetry Display: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html 




--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sun May 20 00:31:49 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:31:49 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Live CD Download Link Update
Message-ID: <7dea7110.12b3.1637af5a825.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs, 


If the One Drive link for DSLWP does not work, please have a try with this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8ZSw/view?usp=sharing 


73!


Wei BG2BHC




--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sun May 20 02:43:39 2018
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 22:43:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v active...
Message-ID: <A8AE8B1B-C33F-47E9-A08C-F9C6A8ED42CB@mindspring.com>

Commanded on at 0235Z 20MAY and will remain active for ~24 hours. Enjoy!

73, Drew KO4MA

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun May 20 04:21:01 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 00:21:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v active...
In-Reply-To: <A8AE8B1B-C33F-47E9-A08C-F9C6A8ED42CB@mindspring.com>
References: <A8AE8B1B-C33F-47E9-A08C-F9C6A8ED42CB@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpwCDUB7hjkxX=Me+vAnCuh-x93sPXdaXRTiy+b6_FEKQ@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone at Hamvention wants to see portable L-band ops, stop by the demo
area outside Building 1 for an 87 degree pass of AO-92 at 11:36am tomorrow.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 22:43 Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
wrote:

> Commanded on at 0235Z 20MAY and will remain active for ~24 hours. Enjoy!
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
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From kc0bmf at gmail.com  Sun May 20 04:30:14 2018
From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 23:30:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help
Message-ID: <CAG-+cObY2xYJvMrqUp0DrhAEc7VrPYzZ=4Dx-jDxG+dDvNbF1A@mail.gmail.com>

 Hello Group
  I'am currently replacing the motors on my AlfaSpid RAS and the azimuth
motor is no problem but on the elevation motor there is what I call a
hidden screw. It's tucked away down in the housing. you can see it and get
a screwdriver to it,BUT, there is no slot for the screwdriver. The head is
hollowed out as for a allen wrench,BUT, no hex for the wrench to grab. I
don't think that it has been rounded out because I bought the rotor new and
it's never been apart before by me. All the other attaching screws are flat
headed screws so not sure why this one is different. Anyway I was wondering
if anyone else has had any experience with this before ?

         Thanks John W0JW

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sun May 20 07:21:05 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 15:21:05 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Lunar Mission Downlink Signal Sample
Message-ID: <2e52bdbe.3a30.1637c6c57e1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Please find the downlink signal sample of  DSLWP recorded from flight model satellites:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YoymkdXI81-h907Vsgxbb1jZV5ZtPNpz/view


Best Regrads,


Wei



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com




 

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sun May 20 07:09:25 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 15:09:25 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] User Manual for DSLWP Live CD
Message-ID: <285116ce.387f.1637c61aa1d.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Please find the user manual of DSLWP live cd at:
https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/DSLWP_Live_CD_User_Manual_20180520.pdf


And a download link for the live cd:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8ZSw/view?usp=sharing


Best Regrads,


Wei



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sun May 20 13:47:15 2018
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 09:47:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help
In-Reply-To: <CAG-+cObY2xYJvMrqUp0DrhAEc7VrPYzZ=4Dx-jDxG+dDvNbF1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG-+cObY2xYJvMrqUp0DrhAEc7VrPYzZ=4Dx-jDxG+dDvNbF1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01b701d3f041$104da1e0$30e8e5a0$@mindspring.com>

Sorta sounds like a pop rivet to me....

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of John Fickes
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:30 AM
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help

 Hello Group
  I'am currently replacing the motors on my AlfaSpid RAS and the azimuth
motor is no problem but on the elevation motor there is what I call a hidden
screw. It's tucked away down in the housing. you can see it and get a
screwdriver to it,BUT, there is no slot for the screwdriver. The head is
hollowed out as for a allen wrench,BUT, no hex for the wrench to grab. I
don't think that it has been rounded out because I bought the rotor new and
it's never been apart before by me. All the other attaching screws are flat
headed screws so not sure why this one is different. Anyway I was wondering
if anyone else has had any experience with this before ?

         Thanks John W0JW
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Sun May 20 13:53:00 2018
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 09:53:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help
In-Reply-To: <01b701d3f041$104da1e0$30e8e5a0$@mindspring.com>
References: <CAG-+cObY2xYJvMrqUp0DrhAEc7VrPYzZ=4Dx-jDxG+dDvNbF1A@mail.gmail.com>
	<01b701d3f041$104da1e0$30e8e5a0$@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9Fe4s_1JQf9UxYjqbdAn-2fywK4U884aqTFi+VA63T=2BA@mail.gmail.com>

Hector AD6D used to be the Spid repair guy for Force12 in the US, maybe
look him up and send him an email.

Dave-KB1PVH

On Sun, May 20, 2018, 09:48 Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
wrote:

> Sorta sounds like a pop rivet to me....
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of John Fickes
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:30 AM
> To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help
>
>  Hello Group
>   I'am currently replacing the motors on my AlfaSpid RAS and the azimuth
> motor is no problem but on the elevation motor there is what I call a
> hidden
> screw. It's tucked away down in the housing. you can see it and get a
> screwdriver to it,BUT, there is no slot for the screwdriver. The head is
> hollowed out as for a allen wrench,BUT, no hex for the wrench to grab. I
> don't think that it has been rounded out because I bought the rotor new and
> it's never been apart before by me. All the other attaching screws are flat
> headed screws so not sure why this one is different. Anyway I was wondering
> if anyone else has had any experience with this before ?
>
>          Thanks John W0JW
> _______________________________________________
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From wageners at gmail.com  Sun May 20 13:58:36 2018
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:58:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help
In-Reply-To: <CAG-+cObY2xYJvMrqUp0DrhAEc7VrPYzZ=4Dx-jDxG+dDvNbF1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG-+cObY2xYJvMrqUp0DrhAEc7VrPYzZ=4Dx-jDxG+dDvNbF1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHDa6XX=3HWaVZ+zP_x1NOyFngGuOmz=TQwAbEiRc0P16Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi John,

You can also contact Spid in Polen directly. They have been very helpful:

http://spid.net.pl/en/contact/


Stefan

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 11:31 PM John Fickes <kc0bmf at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hello Group
>   I'am currently replacing the motors on my AlfaSpid RAS and the azimuth
> motor is no problem but on the elevation motor there is what I call a
> hidden screw. It's tucked away down in the housing. you can see it and get
> a screwdriver to it,BUT, there is no slot for the screwdriver. The head is
> hollowed out as for a allen wrench,BUT, no hex for the wrench to grab. I
> don't think that it has been rounded out because I bought the rotor new and
> it's never been apart before by me. All the other attaching screws are flat
> headed screws so not sure why this one is different. Anyway I was wondering
> if anyone else has had any experience with this before ?
>
>          Thanks John W0JW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sun May 20 14:25:37 2018
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:25:37 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] help with WRAPS (XBee version)
Message-ID: <20180520082537.4bcf65425982ab1c5d29acdd@yknwt.ca>

  It might be in the documentation on the CD, being so close to having
my WRAPS working I'd rather not mess anything up at this point.  The
mechanical construction is done, although I have the box turned on edge
so the PC board will mount sideways, I can work with that.  The
elevation and azimuth motions are centered up and move quietly and
freely (about 22mA each motor operating continuously with no load at
9V).  The XBee modules files have been uploaded, but I haven't taken
mounted one on the WRAPS board yet, as I haven't done any further
configuration to the modules.  Are there changes that need to be made
to the XBee module files before installing them on the WRAPS board?
Are there things I should check or look for before final assembly and
testing?

  Thanks

     Ron VE8RT

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From david at rushtone.com  Sun May 20 14:39:50 2018
From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 10:39:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] help with WRAPS (XBee version)
In-Reply-To: <20180520082537.4bcf65425982ab1c5d29acdd@yknwt.ca>
References: <20180520082537.4bcf65425982ab1c5d29acdd@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <f694d7b9-ac38-fe08-d7ed-f276882ae339@rushtone.com>

Ron:

The XBee modules need to be programmed in order to work together.

Hopefully you have a USB board that you can plug an XBee module into, 
and plug into your computer, in order to (1) update the firmware (just a 
good practice in general) and (2) configure the two of them to work 
together.

You'll need a USB board to connect one of the XBees to your computer to 
use it for tracking.? Same board for programming them.

73, David, ky7dr


On /20180520/ 10:25, Ron VE8RT wrote:
>    It might be in the documentation on the CD, being so close to having
> my WRAPS working I'd rather not mess anything up at this point.  The
> mechanical construction is done, although I have the box turned on edge
> so the PC board will mount sideways, I can work with that.  The
> elevation and azimuth motions are centered up and move quietly and
> freely (about 22mA each motor operating continuously with no load at
> 9V).  The XBee modules files have been uploaded, but I haven't taken
> mounted one on the WRAPS board yet, as I haven't done any further
> configuration to the modules.  Are there changes that need to be made
> to the XBee module files before installing them on the WRAPS board?
> Are there things I should check or look for before final assembly and
> testing?
>
>    Thanks
>
>       Ron VE8RT
>


From wa7fwf at gmail.com  Sun May 20 15:13:08 2018
From: wa7fwf at gmail.com (Kevin Schuchmann)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:13:08 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] fox telem server down?
Message-ID: <918b227c-cd5f-a87e-4169-4fa2730dfcf1@gmail.com>

Data is backing up in the queue, server down?

Kevin WA7FWF

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Sun May 20 15:18:37 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 10:18:37 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] fox telem server down?
In-Reply-To: <918b227c-cd5f-a87e-4169-4fa2730dfcf1@gmail.com>
References: <918b227c-cd5f-a87e-4169-4fa2730dfcf1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d3f04d$d4104360$7c30ca20$@gmail.com>

Kevin,

Looks like.  No uploads shown in the last 90 minutes.  Will pass this on to
the DB folks.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


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From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sun May 20 17:26:45 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 01:26:45 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] gr-dslwp Proxy Issue Fix
Message-ID: <5d8f2198.172.1637e96da55.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Just found that the DSLWP proxy does not work with new versions of tornado.


This issue will make the upload of data fail, so it is important to fix it.



To fix this bug, please close the proxy, open a new terminal, and type in the following commands:


sudo python -m pip uninstall tornado

sudo python -m pip install tornado==4.5.3


The password is lilac


After running these commands, the issue should be fixed.


Best regards,


Wei BG2BHC


--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sun May 20 17:17:48 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 01:17:48 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Live CD Bug Fixing
Message-ID: <e59e324.fa.1637e8ea807.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Sorry to find a bug in the DSLWP live cd! This bug will make the upload of data fail, so it is important to fix it.


To fix this bug, please close the proxy, open a new terminal, and type in the following commands:


           sudo python -m pip uninstall tornado


           sudo python -m pip install tornado==4.5.3


The password is lilac


After running these commands, the bug should be fixed.


Best regards,


Wei BG2BHC




--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From jim at milnet.uk.net  Sun May 20 18:43:05 2018
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 19:43:05 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode change
In-Reply-To: <ebffc6c2-4ea7-013a-9f8d-a6191257003c@btinternet.com>
References: <ebffc6c2-4ea7-013a-9f8d-a6191257003c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <5AC4D1BB150548D48BF009F41D614B07@jimPC2>

Hi All,

FUNcube-1 is now operating in autonomous mode until Friday evening (UTC).

The transponder will be on in eclipse and switch to high power telemetry 
only when in sunlight.

73

Jim, G3WGM and the FUNcube team

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sun May 20 18:50:15 2018
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 12:50:15 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] help with WRAPS (XBee version)
In-Reply-To: <f694d7b9-ac38-fe08-d7ed-f276882ae339@rushtone.com>
References: <20180520082537.4bcf65425982ab1c5d29acdd@yknwt.ca>
	<f694d7b9-ac38-fe08-d7ed-f276882ae339@rushtone.com>
Message-ID: <20180520125015.1b35dae3012e6793a3a0ab7c@yknwt.ca>

Thanks David,

   the firmware update I've taken care of after seeing that there was
nothing to "read" from them.

   I have a pair of USB boards, the second one was to for a back up.
Is what I need to know for the configuration in the .bmp file on the CD
that came with the WRAPS kit from AMSAT?

   A friend with a 3D printer has offered to make me an enclosure for
the USB adapter & XBee, having had the unfortunate experience of having
the table and gear dumped into a puddle by a burst of wind during a
thunderstorm at Field Day years back I now make more effort to protect
things.

   Ron VE8RT

On Sun, 20 May 2018 10:39:50 -0400
David Rush <david at rushtone.com> wrote:

> Ron:
> 
> The XBee modules need to be programmed in order to work together.
> 
> Hopefully you have a USB board that you can plug an XBee module into, 
> and plug into your computer, in order to (1) update the firmware (just a 
> good practice in general) and (2) configure the two of them to work 
> together.
> 
> You'll need a USB board to connect one of the XBees to your computer to 
> use it for tracking.? Same board for programming them.
> 
> 73, David, ky7dr
> 
> 
> On /20180520/ 10:25, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> >    It might be in the documentation on the CD, being so close to having
> > my WRAPS working I'd rather not mess anything up at this point.  The
> > mechanical construction is done, although I have the box turned on edge
> > so the PC board will mount sideways, I can work with that.  The
> > elevation and azimuth motions are centered up and move quietly and
> > freely (about 22mA each motor operating continuously with no load at
> > 9V).  The XBee modules files have been uploaded, but I haven't taken
> > mounted one on the WRAPS board yet, as I haven't done any further
> > configuration to the modules.  Are there changes that need to be made
> > to the XBee module files before installing them on the WRAPS board?
> > Are there things I should check or look for before final assembly and
> > testing?
> >
> >    Thanks
> >
> >       Ron VE8RT
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From kc0bmf at gmail.com  Mon May 21 01:02:53 2018
From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 20:02:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlfaSpid help
Message-ID: <CAG-+cOZmtTqLdV-E=iohfPJWMpmKys0=gceS_Jj8r6FKyk1JeQ@mail.gmail.com>

I want to thank everyone for their help. I did finally figure it out and to
make a long story short it is a allen head screw. I got a inspection L.E.D
light down in the hole so I could see better and my allen wrench barely
reached it but I did get it out. So I'm on the way now.

            Thank You ALL John W0JW 73

From KB2HSH at amsat.org  Mon May 21 02:32:31 2018
From: KB2HSH at amsat.org (John Marranca, Jr)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 22:32:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91&92 Power Levels
Message-ID: <CAMofO02V64V=-tLYVYuo3O0CD1fS=dcaTkxbHmT92HG24MC0vw@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all...it's been a long time since I have been active on the
satellites.  While I was married,  I had a good station and could work
nearly any satellite I could hear. After being limited to the FM birds, I
had very limited success with SO-50, etc. But the Fox satellites have been
simply awesome. I am having the time of my life working 91&92 with my UV5RA
and 19" whip antenna. But only during the day. Do these satellites have a
lower power at night/during eclipse??

John KB2HSH

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>       (aj9n at aol.com)
>    3. urgent help from AMSAT members worldwide (Tanan Rangseeprom)
>    4. Re: Recording TX & RX from one or two radios? (Bill Acito)
>    5. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 168 (Todd W Deckard)
>    6. Re: Recording TX & RX from one or two radios? (Greene, Stephan A)
>    7. LongJiang 1 & 2 to be launched towards the Moon (Nico Janssen)
>    8. DSLWP Lunar Amateur Radio Mission to be Launched This     Sunday
> (???)
>    9. DSLWP Live CD Download Link Update (???)
>   10. AO-92 L/v active... (Andrew Glasbrenner)
>   11. Re: AO-92 L/v active... (Paul Stoetzer)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:32:46 +0000
> From: Bill Acito <w1pa at hotmail.com>
> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
> Message-ID:
>         <
> FR1P152MB0405D5D5ABFEB1ACC31926FF98900 at FR1P152MB0405.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> [[I haven't done this yet but I think others have and I plan to do it one
> day: most recorders are stereo. Get a *channel* splitter (I bought one on
> Amazon) and send radio audio to left channel, say, and an external mic to
> right.]]
>
> I have been doing this for years. The key/trick is that you have to insert
> a 40db pad on the rig audio side because the audio levels (mic vs rig) are
> very different. Most audio recorders use a AGC of some sort, and with no
> balancing L to R, the AGC will adjust for the stronger rig audio, and lower
> its overall sensitivity so you won't hear the mic channel. Inserting the
> 40db pad balances the left and right and will give you good audio on both
> sides.
>
> Bill W1PA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 02:10:58 -0400
> From: aj9n at aol.com
> To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-19
>         06:00   UTC
> Message-ID: <1637705c9e3-c90-801c at webjas-vae114.srv.aolmail.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-19 06:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE
>
> The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
>
> The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA
>
> Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-05-22 08:53:38 UTC 33 deg (***)
>
> ?
>
> Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via
> W6SRJ
>
> The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
>
> The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
>
> Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg
>
> Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/??
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
> ******************************************************************************
>
> ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
> ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
> your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.
>
> ?
>
> Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
>
> ?
>
>
> *******************************************************************************
>
> ?
>
> All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
>
> ?
>
>
> *******************************************************************************
>
>
> Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
> not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
> http://www.ariss.org/
>
> Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.
>
>
> ****************************************************************************
> Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS???
> If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
> details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?
>
> ?
>
> If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
> provide some insight. ?Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
>
> ****************************************************************************
> ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
> schools:?
>
> Francesco IK?WGF with 132
>
> Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129
>
> Gaston ON4WF with 123
>
> Sergey RV3DR with 103
>
>
>
> ****************************************************************************
> The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date
> webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are
> additional
> ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.
>
> Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own
> orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
> time.
> All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
> time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
>
>
> The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-19 06:00 UTC.?
> (***)
>
> Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
> questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and
> instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??
>
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
>
> Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1228. ??
> Each school counts as 1?event.
> Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1177. ?
> Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
> Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47.
>
> A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
> file.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
>
> Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
> Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas
> Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> QSL?information may be found at:??
> http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?
>
> ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS
>
>
> ****************************************************************************
> The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-16 07:00 UTC. ?
>
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
>
> Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
> Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
> .rtf
>
> Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
>
> Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts
>
> https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
>
> ****************************************************************************
>
>
> Exp. 54 on orbit
>
> Scott Tingle KG5NZA
>
> Norishige Kanai
>
> Anton Shkaplerov
>
> ?
>
> Exp. 55 on orbit
>
> Drew Feustel
>
> Oleg Artemyev
>
> Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
>
> ****************************************************************************
>
> 73,
> Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
> One of the ARISS operation team mentors
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 18:38:13 +0700
> From: Tanan Rangseeprom <nanrspm at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at amsat.org>,         Paul
> Stoetzer
>         <prstoetzer at gmail.com>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] urgent help from AMSAT members worldwide
> Message-ID:
>         <CAMw-yOXvGQJ+UmQ2bSnModcNAtH86cFPicA=
> W4x+pXfeF07wHg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Dear Paul Stoetzer, Executive Vice President of Radio Amateur Satellite
> Corporation (AMSAT-NA) and member of AMSAT-BB
>
>  The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand under patronage of His Majesty the
> King (RAST) would like to thank you for the SatPC32 program along with the
> Registration Code for the HS0AJ Ground Station. I and members of RAST along
> with the team building the JAISAT-1 satellite used your program to control
> the Rotor with a V/U antenna to work automatically in order to receive
> signals from amateur radio satellites that passed over Thailand. We have
> posted a video on YouTube of this, along with audio from an IC-9100
> transceiver, which you can view by using the link below or by searching
> YouTube for the callsign HS0AJ.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldjAA6e_Pjs
>
>  We have made an application to the Thai regulator, the National
> Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) to set up ground
> stations in different regions of Thailand in four locations, from North to
> South and with the following callsigns:
>
>  1. GS station in the North of Thailand, using the callsign HS0AN
>
>  2. GS station in the South using the callsign HS0AS
>
>  3. GS Station in the Northeast of Thailand using the callsign HS0AO
>
>  4. GS station in the Central region of Thailand with the callsign HS0AL
>
> We intend to post videos from all of these stations on YouTube, similar to
> those from HS0AJ, and we will establish ground stations all over the
> country in order to receive signals from satellites and to enable amateur
> radio operators and others in Thailand who are interested to access videos
> from these stations on YouTube.
>
> However, now we are seeking urgent help from AMSAT members worldwide
> because we are unable to contact the company Innovative Solutions In Space
> (ISIS) with which RAST had signed a contract to buy components for a
> U-class CubeSat but excluding the payload, being the Linear Transponder.
> Since the beginning of this year up until now we have been unable to
> contact ISIS, which is the reason for this appeal to you for urgent help in
> the purchase of components for the Flight Model of the 1U CubeSat satellite
> which is capable of carrying a payload of a Linear Transponder for RAST and
> which has been assembled and has passed the testing phase.
>
> Can anyone please provide some recommendations to us regarding the assembly
> of the satellite ? and as quickly as possible? RAST and its members are
> lacking experience in satellite assembly and for the initial testing phase
> and we are appealing for suggestions as to where we can find suppliers of
> CubeSat components and as to who can test them and send the satellite out
> into space?
>
> For your consideration, please find some YouTube links about testing and
> building a Linear Transponder below:
>
> Thermal vacuum test
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8gebXAaj6M
>
> Vibration Test
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e02iOwZdM8
>
> Design PCB
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61l6r1AtQo
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBwMD5y3nns
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSb86DushF8
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fXePZ-L86M
>
> 3D of JAISAT-1 Satellites
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqO_3Q9vxo
>
> JITTER OF LOCAL OSCILLATOR 190MHz and 390MHz
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrSpHzPD-Y8
>
>
>
> Sincerely and with respect,
>
> Tanan Rangseeprom
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:39:08 +0000
> From: Bill Acito <w1pa at hotmail.com>
> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
> Message-ID:
>         <
> FR1P152MB040554B0BCE53D859BF58B8398900 at FR1P152MB0405.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hosa-Stereo-1-8-3-5-mm-Male-to-Dual-Mono-1-8-Female-Y-Cable-YMM-261-Adapter/323262785616?epid=1900117143&hash=item4b43f6a850:g:plQAAOSwxupa~zfa
>
> You will likely have to build your own 40db pad ---? its two resisters.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 07:03:59 -0500
> From: Todd W Deckard <twdeckard at earthlink.net>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 168
> Message-ID: <CF4FBC12-C73A-4A69-BFF8-5B21CAFDB4AD at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> mailing list bounced my pedantic response due to attached image size ...
>
> here?s a link to a parallel thread that has the image of ISS altitude over
> time.
>
>
> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/need-help-with-ascending-node.549308http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/need-help-with-ascending-node.549308//
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 19, 2018, at 6:43 AM, Todd W Deckard <twdeckard at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > As an aside, the ISS makes an adjustment approximately once a month.
>  They operate at a higher altitude now that the shuttle is no longer used
> for resupply.    Here is a plot from heavens-above.
> >
> > <image1.png>
> >
> >
> > I have observed that if you are using an Arduino or another processor
> with single precision math, the computed results age very quickly for any
> LEO and practically I must update every few days.
> >
> > if you are using a more respectable math engine and are only concerned
> about the orbital elements; the error in the satellite position is
> approximately a kilometer at the epoch of the TLE.   Then the simplified
> perturbation model (SPG4) used by the common software we use loses about
> 1-2km a day.
> >
> > all of this is a bit pedantic if you are hand pointing an antenna in the
> noble tradition ...
> >
> > best
> > Todd
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 18, 2018, at 9:51 PM, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote:
> >>
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> >>  3. Re: when are TLE's too old to use? (skristof at etczone.com)
> >>  4. FUNcube-1 mode change (Jim Heck)
> >>  5. Falconsat With Wisp and Kenwood TS-200  Internal TNC
> >>     (Vincenzo Mone)
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> >>     (Vincenzo Mone)
> >>  7. Falconsat With Wisp and Kenwood TS-200  Internal TNC
> >>     (Vincenzo Mone)
> >>  8. Re: Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
> >>     (skristof at etczone.com)
> >>  9. Re: Recording TX & RX from one or two radios? (Ken M)
> >> 10. Re: Recording TX & RX from one or two radios? (John Brier)
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 14:32:09 +0000
> From: "Greene, Stephan A" <stephan.a.greene at vencore.com>
> To: John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com>, Steve Kristoff
>         <skristof at etczone.com>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
> Message-ID:
>
> <905C3C6D2F7CC24386DD63AD6DE8D841EEFD29DF at DC7SWEXP002.corp.adroot.internal
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I think you want a "DJ splitter" cable.  Typically a stereo (TRS) plug
> and two separate MONO output jacks, one for the left and one for the
> right channel.  DJ's use one to monitor a track they are playing on one
> channel while cueing up a 2nd track in their headphones; the DJ software
> is configured to output to one track or the other.  Use when you have a
> laptop or tablet with one audio output and don't want to or can't use a
> mixer or 2nd (USB?) audio device.  Usually well-made because DJs hate
> equipment failures mid-gig.  (and we hams hate equipment failures in
> mid-pass!)  I have a Griffin DJ Cable and will have to test this myself.
> Native Instruments (Traktor) and other DJ equipment vendors sell these.
> $10-$12 give or take.
>
> The use in this thread is to combine 2 signals into one input jack,
> while keeping them on separate tracks.  Play the recording back in
> software like Audacity as suggested by others.
>
> I agree the easiest approach is wire a cheap electret mic for local
> (Uplink) audio.  If you tap audio from your uplink radio mic input, you
> may need to pad down the audio level to the recorder and take steps to
> isolate the recording line from the radio input.
>
> The other "splitter" cable described connects left and right channels in
> parallel and is intended .  Usually called a headphone audio splitter.
> You may get a mess unless you wire the plugs from your downlink and
> local audio to put signals on just one channel.   More trouble than it
> is worth IMO.  YMMV.
>
> 73 Steve KS1G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Brier [mailto:johnbrier at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:52 PM
> To: Steve Kristoff
> Cc: AMSAT BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
>
> Probably because I used the wrong term. It is a breakout cable. Here is
> what I have. Haven't used it yet, but it should work.
>
> <url removed for berevity>
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 17:25:11 +0200
> From: Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>
> To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 to be launched towards the Moon
> Message-ID: <7385fa9f-4792-b2b7-4407-fc67e77df7ab at xs4all.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> All,
>
> The two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 are to be launched
> towards the Moon from Xichang on 2018-05-20 around 21:00 UTC.
> They carry radio amateur payloads with 2 m uplinks and 70 cm
> downlinks. Amateurs will be able to receive telemetry downlinks
> but will also be allowed to send telecommands for taking and
> downlinking pictures. There are also plans to enable FreeDV digital
> voice communications through these spacecraft.
>
> The two LongJiang satellites are planned to perform formation
> flying in a high elliptical orbit around the Moon (300 x 9000 km).
> After launch it will take about 4 and a half days to reach the Moon.
> This GMAT script should work well for the first days after launch:
> https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang_NYC.script
> The groundstation used in this script is a random location in New
> York City. You can change this to your location by updating the
> values under the GroundStation tab in GMAT.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 02:01:24 +0800 (CST)
> From: ??? <wmc_jx at 163.com>
> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Lunar Amateur Radio Mission to be Launched
>         This    Sunday
> Message-ID: <287a0b20.349.163799035a7.Coremail.wmc_jx at 163.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK
>
> Dear OMs,
>
>
>
> DSLWP is a lunar formation flying mission led by Harbin Institute of
> Technology for low frequency radio astronomy, amateur radio and education.
> It consists of a pair of 47 kg microsatellites, to be launched into a lunar
> transfer orbit UTC this Sunday evening, and finally enter a 300 x 9000km
> lunar elliptical orbit. Onboard each satellite, there are two VHF/UHF SDR
> transceivers to provide beacon, telemetry, telecommand, digital image
> downlink and a GMSK-JT4 repeater. Onboard transmitting power is about 2 W.
>
>
>
> The first launch window will open at about 21:30 May 20th UTC. The
> transmitters will be activated soon after separation. Satellite A will
> transmit 500 baud GMSK with 1/4 turbo code on 435.425 MHz and 250 baud GMSK
> with 1/2 turbo code and precoder on 436.425 MHz, and satellite B will
> transmit 500 baud GMSK with 1/4 turbo code on 435.400 MHz and 250 baud GMSK
> with 1/2 turbo code and precoder on 436.400 MHz, in every 5 minutes by
> default. Each transmittion will last about 16 seconds. Radio amateurs in
> South America will have the earliest chance to receive the signals from the
> satellites, then North America, Oceania, Asia, Europe and Africa.
>
>
>
> Harbin Institute of Technology Amateur Radio Club expects radio amateurs
> to join in this mission. We will prepare different QSL cards for different
> flight phase for amateurs successfully made QSO or received telemetry.
> Awards will also be given to the first 10 amateurs in each continent who
> successfully decoded the signals from the satellites, received the most
> number of packets, or received an image. Your participation will also help
> the team to get a better knowledge of the status of the satellites.
>
>
>
> An open source decoding software based on GNU Radio to work with RTL-SDR
> and USRP is provided. Not difficult to change the grc files to support
> other SDR receivers. A small proxy software will send the decoded data to a
> server for real-time display.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much and fingers crossed for a successful launch!
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Wei Mingchuan BG2BHC
>
>
>
> Links:
>
> IARU frequency coordination page:
> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=530
>
> Link budgets: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/wp/?page_id=676
>
> Decoder (GNU Radio OOT module): https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp
>
> Decoder (Linux Live CD): https://1drv.ms/u/s!Av6J6WjI3UbMhHm8gwMr4Z_keqWH
>
> TLE: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/dslwp.txt
>
> DSLWP-A Telemetry Display:
> http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-a.html
>
> DSLWP-B Telemetry Display:
> http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WEI Mingchuan
>
>
> Research Center of Satellite Technology
> Harbin Institute of Technology
> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:31:49 +0800 (CST)
> From: ??? <wmc_jx at 163.com>
> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Live CD Download Link Update
> Message-ID: <7dea7110.12b3.1637af5a825.Coremail.wmc_jx at 163.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK
>
> Hi OMs,
>
>
> If the One Drive link for DSLWP does not work, please have a try with
> this:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8ZSw/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> 73!
>
>
> Wei BG2BHC
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WEI Mingchuan
>
>
> Research Center of Satellite Technology
> Harbin Institute of Technology
> mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
> e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 22:43:39 -0400
> From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v active...
> Message-ID: <A8AE8B1B-C33F-47E9-A08C-F9C6A8ED42CB at mindspring.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> Commanded on at 0235Z 20MAY and will remain active for ~24 hours. Enjoy!
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 00:21:01 -0400
> From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v active...
> Message-ID:
>         <CABzOSOpwCDUB7hjkxX=
> Me+vAnCuh-x93sPXdaXRTiy+b6_FEKQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> If anyone at Hamvention wants to see portable L-band ops, stop by the demo
> area outside Building 1 for an 87 degree pass of AO-92 at 11:36am tomorrow.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 22:43 Andrew Glasbrenner <
> glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Commanded on at 0235Z 20MAY and will remain active for ~24 hours. Enjoy!
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Mon May 21 07:56:19 2018
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 08:56:19 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advanced notice of Nayif1 Data Warehouse Outage
Message-ID: <CAHOBG6X=G1tgVpaS_1Z9h3-V5PXAP7MLvpBqCs7zyuQvkEQNLg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am planning to move the web application and database to a new server in
the next few days.

I will provide timings later, but as always, the Dashboards will pick up
again once hey detect the warehouse connection has resumed.

73

Dave, G4DPZ

From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon May 21 13:47:07 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 09:47:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Lab Job opening
Message-ID: <CALdCfNKCSH04beD5KvbHSzPhSOYGxLTMA_vcezCVEhD-JJNRdg@mail.gmail.com>

The engineer/technician job at the Naval Academy small satelilte lab is
open.  We build cubesats and develop good labs for the students.  A ham
with satellite experience would be an excellent match.

Bob, WB4APR

From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon May 21 13:55:12 2018
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 09:55:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about PSAT
Message-ID: <CALdCfN+yBG2qn8CCVney-3py8423RZsYgN3NXC5Vx9zCGP9gcQ@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > Seems like the PSAT telemetry 00011100 means the Digipeater is off.
>

Yes, I just checked on the downlink page:
http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi
and you can see that the telemetry serial number is only getting up to
around 45 or so before it resets.  So apparently it is not in good sun
position and is resetting at each eclipse.

Bob, WB4APR

From burns at fisher.cc  Mon May 21 15:57:50 2018
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 11:57:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91&92 Power Levels
In-Reply-To: <CAMofO02V64V=-tLYVYuo3O0CD1fS=dcaTkxbHmT92HG24MC0vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMofO02V64V=-tLYVYuo3O0CD1fS=dcaTkxbHmT92HG24MC0vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxWycYv9NN3VCaQMF=c-eSj0B--Dsx-DsvWzHVWf2L0GPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi John,

I'm glad you are enjoying the satellites!  The power levels are not
designed to change at night, although the transmitter power is dependent on
the bus voltage.  Since the batteries will be discharging to power the bird
at night, it's possible they the power is a bit lower, but not hugely.  If
you are having more trouble getting IN, one suggestion is that you are
competing with more stations at night.  If you are having trouble hearing
(which makes more sense since you are asking about Tx power) I can only
suggest a change in your local QRM level is causing trouble.

73 and have fun!

Burns WB1FJ


On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:32 PM, John Marranca, Jr <KB2HSH at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Greetings all...it's been a long time since I have been active on the
> satellites.  While I was married,  I had a good station and could work
> nearly any satellite I could hear. After being limited to the FM birds, I
> had very limited success with SO-50, etc. But the Fox satellites have been
> simply awesome. I am having the time of my life working 91&92 with my UV5RA
> and 19" whip antenna. But only during the day. Do these satellites have a
> lower power at night/during eclipse??
>
> John KB2HSH
>
>

From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Mon May 21 16:15:15 2018
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 11:15:15 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91&92 Power Levels
In-Reply-To: <CABX7KxWycYv9NN3VCaQMF=c-eSj0B--Dsx-DsvWzHVWf2L0GPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMofO02V64V=-tLYVYuo3O0CD1fS=dcaTkxbHmT92HG24MC0vw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABX7KxWycYv9NN3VCaQMF=c-eSj0B--Dsx-DsvWzHVWf2L0GPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b02f093.1c69fb81.21870.7ecf@mx.google.com>

Burns mentioned ...
> If you are having trouble hearing [evening/night] (which makes 
> more sense since you are asking about Tx power) I can only
> suggest a change in your local QRM level is causing trouble.

Locally I've noticed a definite step upwards in noise level at 2 meters
starting at around 5:00 PM when neighbors return home from work and activate
various unknown to me appliances in their home. I can see it on the SDR
waterfall and also hear the increased noise ... without much change in
signal strength from AO-92.

The electrical noise seems to increase an additional 50% during Christmas
when the neighbors turn on their outdoor decorations.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From aa8ch at aol.com  Mon May 21 16:58:48 2018
From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 12:58:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN71 May 21
Message-ID: <16383a39d56-c8b-2e2a@webjas-vaa145.srv.aolmail.net>

If the rain breaks I hope to activate EN71 this afternoon
AO85 1900UTC, AO91 1935UTC, AO07 1952UTC.


All QSOs will be uploaded to LOTW.


Chris AA8CH

From ad0dx at yahoo.com  Mon May 21 16:50:18 2018
From: ad0dx at yahoo.com (Ron Bondy)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 16:50:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Aug 2018 Trip to Santa Rosa Island CM93
References: <1170260755.3570244.1526921418251.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1170260755.3570244.1526921418251@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Everyone,
I am planning a trip to Santa Rosa Island CM93 this summer and have reservations booked for the ferry and the campground on the island.
My wife and I will be flying to Seattle first to see our son in Vancouver, and doing some touring around Vancouver Island and then Olympia National Parkin Washington.? I will activate grids as much as possible, but the grids below are the ones I think I am planning on at this time.
After that we fly to Santa Barbara and will be on Santa Rosa Island CM93 Aug 20 / 21 / 22 (Mon, Tues, Wed).
I will probably activate the CM93 / CM94 grid line from the island but at this point I don't know which passes will be from the grid line.I will focus on CM93 as my wife and I hike and do some bird watching.
Apparently the island is very windy, so on Aug 20 and 21 I will also work some evening night passes when hopefully the winds will be quiet.
I will activate on SO-50, AO-91 and AO-92.? I'm just getting started on the linear birds and hope to be comfortable on FO-29 by Aug.
Below are the dates and grids that I'm planning on at a minimum at this time.
Note that I'm planning on a special side trip to CO50 the morning of Aug 13th if the road is decent. Patrick WD9EWK was there in 2010 and indicates it is a logging road not suitable for rental cars.? I will probably have to decide this when I arrive in Port Hardy CO60.
I'd love to activate CN69 but I don't see any easy way to do it given our other travel plans.
I've broken activations down to morning and evening based on our current plans to drive between Seattle / Vancouver / Vancouver Island /?Olympia National Park.? We will fly?from Seattle to Santa Barbara on Sat Aug 18th (all plane tickets are booked) and activate CM93 Aug 20/21/22.? We arrive on the island at?3pm on the 20th and leave the island at 3pm on the 22nd.
? ? ? ? ? ? ?Morning? ? ? EveningSun? Aug 12? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CO60Mon? Aug 13? ? CO50? ? ? ? CN79Tue? Aug 14? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CN79?Wed? Aug 15? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CN87?Thur Aug 16? CN77,CN87? ? ?CN87
Mon? Aug 20? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CM93Tue? Aug 21? ? ?CM93? ? ? ?CM93Wed? Aug 22? ? ?CM93?
Please email me at adodx at yahoo dot com if you have any questions or comments.
Please note that the island does not have cell coverage so I won't be able to tweet specific pass information during my time on the island.
If you are on the US east coast and are interested in working CM93 please send me an email 1 week prior to the trip when pass information is available and if we have a window on the FM birds or FO-29 I'll be glad to look for you specifically on a low easterly pass from Santa Rosa.

I hope this email isn't too premature, but I've had a few people ask about the dates for CM93 so they can make sure they are home to get the credit for the grid.
Looking forward to activating and handing out some new grids this summer.
Cheers,
Ron, AD0DX



From johnki4ro at gmail.com  Mon May 21 17:16:04 2018
From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 13:16:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91&92 Power Levels
Message-ID: <CA+-NL42zr8ANJPcNxvrbJv7SVbTj6KG0veXRgH4iW_pKTFmLZg@mail.gmail.com>

They operate the same day or night.
Check the pass prediction page at http://www.amsat.org/track/index.php

and the schedule page at:  https://www.amsat.org/satellite-schedules/

to verify that you're listening at an appropriate time.

Thanks for the QSO today

73
John KI4RO

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Mon May 21 19:50:03 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 15:50:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium,
	Stockholm, Sweden
Message-ID: <44BEE5FD63E44D5491F592B6389F21DE@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden

on 22 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:53 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and K6DUE. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

A short history of Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium: In 1993 two mothers living in Djursholm were concerned about the education of their children. They felt the public school in the area did not meet the standards they wanted. Louise Ankarcrona and Louise Westerberg were business women and decided to create a private school that would raise academic standards in Djursholm. The opened Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Djursholm in 1994.The school became very popular and in 1998 they opened another school located at Odenplan, in the heart of Stockhom. This school also became very popular, having a focus on the sciences. Louise and Louise were please with both school, but also wanted to focus on aesthetic arts, and so in 2003 they started a third school at Jarlaplan. Today all three schools are thriving and have become three of Stockholm's most sought after gymnasiums.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1. How is the ARAMIS-experiment going to be put into action? Explain how it 

   would work.

2. Has the AMS-02 given any results about antimatter? Has the increase of 

   sensitivity (from 10^-6 to 10^-9) given better results?

3. How could space engineering affect our planet and the environment?

4. Did you yield any significant results from the NICER project?

5. There is a lot of talk about creating a community on Mars and sending 

   people to live there. Do you, as someone who has lived in space for a 

   time, see this as something that is possible to achieve?

6. Based on the At Home In Space mission, how would you describe the sense of 

   community at the ISS?

7. When you're going through the selection process, hoping to be chosen to 

   train as an astronaut, would you admit to being afraid of anything, or 

   would that seem not very astronaut-like?

8. How do you manage to stay in space for such long periods at a time? Is it 

   physically and/or mentally challenging?

9. What experiments are you conducting in the Cold Atom Lab at the moment?

10. What is your goal of being an astronaut? Is it to explore new planets, 

    contribute to science or being a part of a great adventure?

11. Which space movie made here on Earth is the most realistic?

12. Are there any space traditions?

13. What do you miss most from space when you are back on Earth?

14. What is the Earth activity that you miss the most when you're in space?

15. What made you decide being on the ISS was what you wanted to do?

16. What is your work when you're not in space?

17. What would you do if someone got severely sick?

18. How does the architecture on the ISS affect you? Why is everything white?

19. How do you navigate in the space station?

20. If you have long hair, do you have to cut it before going on the ISS?

21. How do you maintain contact with your family while on board the ISS?

22. Does the space station stay in orbit forever or does it get pulled towards earth?

 

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

   1.  Janusz Kusocinski Primary School No. 71, Poznan, Poland, telebridge    

       via W6SRJ. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

       The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

       Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06 UTC

       Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/ 

 

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Mon May 21 20:42:03 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 16:42:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Janusz Kusocinski Primary
	School No. 71, Poznan, Poland
Message-ID: <2963FA8A317C420C96E531BB3D6E8302@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Janusz Kusocinski Primary School No. 71, Poznan, Poland

on 23 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 11:06 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Szko?a Podstawowa nr 71 im. Janusza Kusocinskiego in Poznan, Poland, is a 60-year old public primary school for students aged 6-15. Starting with the school year 2017/18, primary schools in Poland were extended from six to eight years so at present the school has 460 pupils in grades 1 to 7. 

The school is situated in the centre of one of Poland's greatest cities.  A university, cultural and economic centre boasting a one thousand-year-old history, Poznan offers its inhabitants and visitors myriad educational opportunities of which the school takes full advantage.

The school nurtures curiosity and creativity through an inspiring, broad and engaging curriculum. Thanks to a variety of educational programmes (e.g., Odyssey of the Mind, eTwinning, European Christmas Tree Decoration Exchange, etc.), the school offers its students opportunities for learning and development 'without borders' by which they will be enabled and empowered to attain their full potential and become competent in shaping their own future. The school puts great emphasis on STEAM activities. In the school year 2016/2017, the school piloted the 'Mission X. Train like an astronaut' educational programme in Poland and since then have been the centre for the programme in Poland. Despite their young age, the students attend lectures and workshops at best universities in Poland or give lectures at international student conferences. During the preparation period for the ARISS contact, the school cooperated with a local amateur radio club (SP3YOR) and plans have been made to establish an amateur radio club at school. The school takes part in various activities within the local community, cooperating with governmental institutions and NGO organisations. Szkola Podstawowa nr 71 im. Janusza Kusocinskiego in Poznan takes pride in its tradition of voluntary work. Every year, the school becomes the local Collection-Centre for Wielka Orkiestra Swiatecznej Pomocy (The Great Orchestra of Christmas Charity), the biggest, non-governmental, non-profit, charity organisation in Poland, which aims to support health care in Poland.

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1. What was your path to becoming an astronaut?

2. What research conducted currently on the ISS has been specifically undertaken in preparation for the human exploration of destinations beyond low-Earth 

   orbit?

3. If you had a chance to travel beyond our Solar System to find a new habitable planet for humans would you do it even if you knew you may never return to the Earth?

4. Does your being in space affect your general perspective on life?

5. What surprised you most in space?

6. What happens when you get ill on the ISS?

7. How does your ordinary day in life aboard the ISS look like?

8. For an experienced astronaut as you are, which is the best space movie and which is the worst?

9. Has anything dangerous ever happened to you?

10. How do you get drinking water on the ISS?

11. What do you miss most?

12. How do astronauts eat aboard the ISS?

13. Where does a compass point to in space?

14. How does taking care of personal hygiene differ from maintaining hygiene on Earth?

15. Do you ever feel collision with any objects or space debris?

16. Do you do anything just for fun on the ISS?

17. Is there anything you would like to do right now, although you know that you cannot?

18. How and where do you sleep?

 

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

  TBD

 

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 


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From ad0dx at yahoo.com  Mon May 21 21:20:42 2018
From: ad0dx at yahoo.com (Ron Bondy)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 21:20:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Santa Rosa Island CM93 Grid Schedule
References: <1706104032.3701767.1526937642313.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1706104032.3701767.1526937642313@mail.yahoo.com>

I had a nice table in my earlier email with my current grid schedule for my Aug trip, but the ascii text got reformatted.
I've entered the grid schedule on my qrz.com page and will update as the Aug date approaches.
We have our ferry and campsite reservations for Santa Rosa so I don't see those dates changing.
https://www.qrz.com/db/AD0DX


Cheers,
Ron, AD0DX

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Mon May 21 22:16:13 2018
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 18:16:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 from Maine to Europe
Message-ID: <E657FFE5-BF60-45B5-A488-672BD14CC90E@verizon.net>

Hello across the pond,
I am vacationing in the state of Maine in FN54 and m going to try a SO-50 pass that will hit western Europe this evening 2345 Z Monday, May 21. Since I normally live in Texas this type of thing is not something I usually get to do.  So if you are available I would like to see who I could work.

73

Tom
N5HYP/1

Sent from my iPhone

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Mon May 21 22:32:06 2018
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 18:32:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 from Maine to Europe
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8OXZGb4Tqkvbn3DCF3_CHMv7jK3BKjayJtadkHkweucjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E657FFE5-BF60-45B5-A488-672BD14CC90E@verizon.net>
	<CAAJiE8OXZGb4Tqkvbn3DCF3_CHMv7jK3BKjayJtadkHkweucjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <926B1449-F7B9-4056-B5BA-5DA2677C6769@verizon.net>

Probably the only other one I will book this evening is a all 92 at about 0020Z which will probably only be good for those in the Northeast US and Canada.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2018, at 18:25, Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom, are you planning working the other FM passes this evening? It would be great to get FN54 in the log! 
> 
> 73, Don KB2YSI
> 
>> On Mon, May 21, 2018, 18:17 Tom Schuessler <tjschuessler at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hello across the pond,
>> I am vacationing in the state of Maine in FN54 and m going to try a SO-50 pass that will hit western Europe this evening 2345 Z Monday, May 21. Since I normally live in Texas this type of thing is not something I usually get to do.  So if you are available I would like to see who I could work.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Tom
>> N5HYP/1
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From devin at thecabal.org  Mon May 21 22:25:04 2018
From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 22:25:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1990 version of ARRL's Satellite Experimenter's
 Handbook, by K2UBC
In-Reply-To: <CAGdEbNaooVgr_HX3kVsFq62br4SiTkGA3ytZ0pA7=f70xeoTjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGdEbNaooVgr_HX3kVsFq62br4SiTkGA3ytZ0pA7=f70xeoTjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR01MB26539323903A8D1C2B37D26CCA950@MWHPR01MB2653.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Thank you for mentioning this book! I found a reasonable copy on Amazon, it arrived last week with a batch of newer books on building and operating cubesats, and I have been working my way through it. Going to pull out my stock of laser-print transparency sheets and build an OSCARLOCATOR for the fun of it. Nothing beats getting my head around the nuts and bolts of theory than by working through it by hand and getting a full appreciation for modern automation.


--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin at thecabal.org
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Philip Jenkins
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 12:04 PM
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1990 version of ARRL's Satellite Experimenter's Handbook, by K2UBC

I was looking through my ham radio bookshelves (yes, plural!) a few weeks ago, and I had nearly forgotten that I had this book...so I've been re-reading it. (No, I'm not interested in selling it.... <grin>)

The history alone - details about the birds up to and including AO-13 - makes for fascinating reading, never mind the  technical details for orbital considerations, tracking, and building satellites. Remember that this when AO-13 was only 2 years old, AO-7 hadn't been heard from in a few years, and FM birds were only a twinkle in some engineer's eye.

If you can find this book, I highly recommend that you borrow/buy it - quite interesting to read what was going on in the satellite world 28 years ago!  (I bought it in late 92/early 93 to read on the plane trip to VP2M for an AO-13 DXpedition.)

Philip N4HF
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From kk4oyj at gmail.com  Tue May 22 03:53:07 2018
From: kk4oyj at gmail.com (John, 9H4G)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 05:53:07 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
In-Reply-To: <905C3C6D2F7CC24386DD63AD6DE8D841EEFD29DF@DC7SWEXP002.corp.adroot.internal>
References: <CO2PR01MB20714F1A2CAAE5C12DE6F4CC98910@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAN6TEUdRMn9-x1u7GL7VXmDK=YpRBiLJvttJPaNdXHOVVg0UwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CO2PR01MB207100766642CC82ACB1AA3598900@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAAJiE8N76vEx2tDTfKunfTQSGCwGLVOMvty6RXNsu-xN1Q12+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMgB-Oh72CdFRBCbeuc6ObSHBSx_N2fNjJLUg2XDgGTdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae0359359978106991021dbbe4670529@etczone.com>
	<CALn0fKOgJOB_YJb74ebmnUc4U0kZ6o5thENeehyTjEF04scJxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<905C3C6D2F7CC24386DD63AD6DE8D841EEFD29DF@DC7SWEXP002.corp.adroot.internal>
Message-ID: <9EE17618-DADB-4C66-81C1-2AA781D32631@gmail.com>

I use an over ear headset but with a fist mic. I use my mobile phone recorder with its regular hands-free earphone and mic. The mic is inserted in one of the owner the ear headset ear cups. It picks up the full duplex and if 1/2 duplex also is sensitive enough to pick up my voice resonating in the earphones.

73 de John, 9H4G

> On 19 May 2018, at 16:32, Greene, Stephan A <stephan.a.greene at vencore.com> wrote:
> 
> I think you want a "DJ splitter" cable.  Typically a stereo (TRS) plug
> and two separate MONO output jacks, one for the left and one for the
> right channel.  DJ's use one to monitor a track they are playing on one
> channel while cueing up a 2nd track in their headphones; the DJ software
> is configured to output to one track or the other.  Use when you have a
> laptop or tablet with one audio output and don't want to or can't use a
> mixer or 2nd (USB?) audio device.  Usually well-made because DJs hate
> equipment failures mid-gig.  (and we hams hate equipment failures in
> mid-pass!)  I have a Griffin DJ Cable and will have to test this myself.
> Native Instruments (Traktor) and other DJ equipment vendors sell these.
> $10-$12 give or take. 
> 
> The use in this thread is to combine 2 signals into one input jack,
> while keeping them on separate tracks.  Play the recording back in
> software like Audacity as suggested by others. 
> 
> I agree the easiest approach is wire a cheap electret mic for local
> (Uplink) audio.  If you tap audio from your uplink radio mic input, you
> may need to pad down the audio level to the recorder and take steps to
> isolate the recording line from the radio input. 
> 
> The other "splitter" cable described connects left and right channels in
> parallel and is intended .  Usually called a headphone audio splitter.
> You may get a mess unless you wire the plugs from your downlink and
> local audio to put signals on just one channel.   More trouble than it
> is worth IMO.  YMMV.
> 
> 73 Steve KS1G
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Brier [mailto:johnbrier at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:52 PM
> To: Steve Kristoff
> Cc: AMSAT BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording TX & RX from one or two radios?
> 
> Probably because I used the wrong term. It is a breakout cable. Here is
> what I have. Haven't used it yet, but it should work.
> 
> <url removed for berevity>
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> 
> 
> 
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From aj9n at aol.com  Tue May 22 06:28:38 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 02:28:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-22 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <16386890ae7-c93-3746@webjas-vac019.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-22 06:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-05-22 08:53:38 UTC 33 deg

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg

Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/??

?

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, telebridge via VK4KHZ (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (***)

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-31 16:58:36 UTC 40 deg (***)



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-22 06:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1228. ??
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1177. ?
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-16 07:00 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net  Tue May 22 10:15:29 2018
From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 06:15:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
Message-ID: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>

Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?

-- 

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Tue May 22 11:16:44 2018
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 07:16:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT TLE history now online back to October 2003
Message-ID: <8a6c4f57-60be-e71c-53a9-e4473ceb29f9@alum.wpi.edu>

With thanks to Ray Hoad for sending me his archive, you can now find
orbital elements for active amateur satellites back to October 1993 on
the amsat web site at www.amsat.org/tle/historical

Thanks for all those bulletins, Ray.? That represents a lot of work over
25 years!

73 de KM1P Joe


From joevk5ei at gmail.com  Tue May 22 11:24:44 2018
From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 20:54:44 +0930
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
Message-ID: <CAEW3GkLpW=q5pm5GVeh12eRF94Fi1hgiZ9xZwA8=KrQaYB0G8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

I have been following on this twitter feed https://twitter.com/bg2bhc


73, Joe

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Mike Seguin <n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net>
wrote:

> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
> "A closed mouth gathers no feet"
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From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Tue May 22 12:09:15 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 14:09:15 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] UBAKUSAT and 1KUNS-PF identified
Message-ID: <6aa35bb4-a5aa-24e9-55d4-ddc33c70ec9e@xs4all.nl>

All,

Detailed doppler measurements show that UBAKUSAT
is object 43467 (1998-067NQ) and 1KUNS-PF is object
43466 (1998-067NP).

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Tue May 22 13:03:25 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 15:03:25 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
Message-ID: <e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>

After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
problems.

Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
"Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
The sat is just above South America.
If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.? Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.

Thank you very much!

Wei"

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
>


From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Tue May 22 14:06:26 2018
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 10:06:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FN 54
Message-ID: <0A7243A2-788E-4B2B-88ED-F88545C13613@verizon.net>

I will be on a fox 1D 92 pass over east central US at 1454Z and a 91 pass that hits western UK at 15 08Z this morning from FN 54 see you there

Tom. N5HYP

Sent from my iPhone

From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue May 22 16:21:28 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 20:21:28 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>

Nico,

I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats for the past 2 days.

On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.

I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without any results.

For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the lack of information.

Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?

Here we are this side.

Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.

Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share, particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more welcomed.

73



Jean Marc (3B8DU)





> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> problems.
> 
> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> The sat is just above South America.
> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> 
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Wei"
> 
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
> 
> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From ewpereira at gmail.com  Tue May 22 16:38:54 2018
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 13:38:54 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALNQy4-wRbgaDc=iypja8GPecSpzRbcqu5pZxciXL_1gzfXokg@mail.gmail.com>

Jean,

I suggest usign the live Ubuntu ISO image with gnuradio and the necessary
OOT modules for monitoring the GMSK signals. While installing gnuradio and
the OOT modules manually can be done, it takes some effort. Running the
live image is much easier. You do need a fast computer with at least four
CPU cores  to be able to run all the flowgraphs.

I had some difficulties with the doppler correction in my setup during the
first pass. The predictions seemed off and I had to manually adjust the
frequency offset to get the signals into the demodulators' passbands. Once
that was done, I could decode the GMSK telemetry from both satellites up to
64000 km. Above 64000 km, my small antenna was no longer enough. I will get
a better antenna ready and will try monitoring again over the weekend.

73, Edson PY2SDR




On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nico,
>
> I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats for
> the past 2 days.
>
> On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but was
> not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
>
> I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which
> seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on
> the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without
> any results.
>
> For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the
> lack of information.
>
> Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite
> difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published
> GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
>
> Here we are this side.
>
> Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
> project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a
> minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
>
> Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM
> to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
> particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
> welcomed.
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> > After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> > maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> > telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> > problems.
> >
> > Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> > "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> > on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> > We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
> > We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> > The sat is just above South America.
> > If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> > 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> >
> > Wei"
> >
> > 73,
> > Nico PA0DLO
> >
> > On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> >> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue May 22 16:42:04 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 12:42:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net><e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>

Greetings!

The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for use in 
GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for that.

In the hours after launch, several Amateurs 
(http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) 
successfully decoded the 70cm telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I 
got some partial decodes but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete 
packets - but I was still very pleased!).

Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the 70cm 
telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not aware that 
any was received.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band contact with 
one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies but others 
are watching for the signals.

For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to watch 
for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a second SDR.

Hope that helps!

-Scott,  K4KDR


===========================================

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jean Marc Momple
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
To: Nico Janssen
Cc: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats

Nico,

I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats for 
the past 2 days.

On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but was 
not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.

I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which seems 
to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on the 
announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without any 
results.

For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the lack 
of information.

Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite 
difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published 
GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?

Here we are this side.

Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the project 
team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a minimum of 
info. Just a personal opinion.

Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM to 
learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share, particularly 
the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more welcomed.

73



Jean Marc (3B8DU)





> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> problems.
>
> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> The sat is just above South America.
> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Wei"
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2? 


From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue May 22 17:50:18 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 21:50:18 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>


Scott,

Thanks and my greetings to you also.

Very clear and thank you for the insights.

Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally in SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know how to install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?

Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang experiment is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try receive some signals from these birds. But again wish to stress that the project managers would have much more audience and feedback if sharing more info (basic marketing), just a honest comment for improvement in such future projects. This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully understood) that they fail to communicate well to get the best feedback after launch from the HAM community which actually would help them a lot in assessing there bird performance.

Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)


> On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for use in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for that.
> 
> In the hours after launch, several Amateurs (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial decodes but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I was still very pleased!).
> 
> Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not aware that any was received.
> 
> As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band contact with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies but others are watching for the signals.
> 
> For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a second SDR.
> 
> Hope that helps!
> 
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> 
> 
> ===========================================
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> To: Nico Janssen
> Cc: AMSAT BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> 
> Nico,
> 
> I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats for the past 2 days.
> 
> On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> 
> I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without any results.
> 
> For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the lack of information.
> 
> Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> 
> Here we are this side.
> 
> Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> 
> Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share, particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more welcomed.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
>> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
>> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
>> problems.
>> 
>> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
>> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
>> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
>> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
>> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
>> The sat is just above South America.
>> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
>> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
>> 
>> Thank you very much!
>> 
>> Wei"
>> 
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>> 
>> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
>>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2? 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Tue May 22 19:00:37 2018
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 15:00:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FN54 Maine, one last pass
Message-ID: <89EF37BF-A355-41AC-B4D6-16793991F19E@verizon.net>

Hi all,

Pat Stoddard asked me for the grid and so I will try what for me is an 8? Fox 92 pass at 309Z, my local 2309  Eastern Tuesday evening. Would like to see western and central US stations  Who need this grid to call.

N5HYP

Sent from my iPhone

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue May 22 20:32:33 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 16:32:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZjnDAMpkm6r21zEcHmFaJW=P_N+SXdpo8wgqVCKtS7gw@mail.gmail.com>

Very good point, Larry.  Thanks for mentioning that.

Before I had a computer dedicated to linux-only, on numerous past projects
that required GNU Radio I used a bootable CD and it works great.  Your base
operating system is untouched.

There are performance advantages to having linux installed on a dedicated
computer, but to learn what linux & GNU Radio is about, the bootable CD is
a great option.

-Scott,  K4KDR


=======================



On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Larry Howell <larry.howell.47 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Scott and the other Windows users,
>
> Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You insert it
> in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM and run
> exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a Windows
> PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux when she
> was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!
>
> Larry AC8YE
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Thanks and my greetings to you also.
>>
>> Very clear and thank you for the insights.
>>
>> Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in
>> spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally in
>> SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know how to
>> install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
>>
>> Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang experiment
>> is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try receive some
>> signals from these birds. But again wish to stress that the project
>> managers would have much more audience and feedback if sharing more info
>> (basic marketing), just a honest comment for improvement in such future
>> projects. This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that
>> the direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully understood)
>> that they fail to communicate well to get the best feedback after launch
>> from the HAM community which actually would help them a lot in assessing
>> there bird performance.
>>
>> Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>
>>
>> > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Greetings!
>> >
>> > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for
>> use in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for
>> that.
>> >
>> > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs (
>> http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html)
>> successfully decoded the 70cm telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I
>> got some partial decodes but low SNR here prevented me from getting
>> complete packets - but I was still very pleased!).
>> >
>> > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the
>> 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not aware
>> that any was received.
>> >
>> > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band contact
>> with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies but
>> others are watching for the signals.
>> >
>> > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to
>> watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a second
>> SDR.
>> >
>> > Hope that helps!
>> >
>> > -Scott,  K4KDR
>> >
>> >
>> > ===========================================
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
>> > To: Nico Janssen
>> > Cc: AMSAT BB
>> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
>> >
>> > Nico,
>> >
>> > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats
>> for the past 2 days.
>> >
>> > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but
>> was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
>> >
>> > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which
>> seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on
>> the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without
>> any results.
>> >
>> > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the
>> lack of information.
>> >
>> > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite
>> difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published
>> GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
>> >
>> > Here we are this side.
>> >
>> > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
>> project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a
>> minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
>> >
>> > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for
>> HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
>> particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
>> welcomed.
>> >
>> > 73
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
>> >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
>> >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
>> >> problems.
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
>> >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
>> >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
>> >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
>> >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
>> >> The sat is just above South America.
>> >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
>> >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much!
>> >>
>> >> Wei"
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Nico PA0DLO
>> >>
>> >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
>> >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
>>
>

From larry.howell.47 at gmail.com  Tue May 22 20:26:41 2018
From: larry.howell.47 at gmail.com (Larry Howell)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 16:26:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>

Scott and the other Windows users,

Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You insert it
in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM and run
exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a Windows
PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux when she
was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!

Larry AC8YE

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks and my greetings to you also.
>
> Very clear and thank you for the insights.
>
> Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in
> spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally in
> SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know how to
> install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
>
> Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang experiment is
> quite interesting will continue to watch out and try receive some signals
> from these birds. But again wish to stress that the project managers would
> have much more audience and feedback if sharing more info (basic
> marketing), just a honest comment for improvement in such future projects.
> This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the direct
> stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully understood) that they
> fail to communicate well to get the best feedback after launch from the HAM
> community which actually would help them a lot in assessing there bird
> performance.
>
> Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
>
> 73
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>
> > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for use
> in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for that.
> >
> > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/
> dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm
> telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial decodes but
> low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I was still
> very pleased!).
> >
> > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the
> 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not aware
> that any was received.
> >
> > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band contact
> with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies but
> others are watching for the signals.
> >
> > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to
> watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a second
> SDR.
> >
> > Hope that helps!
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> >
> >
> > ===========================================
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> > To: Nico Janssen
> > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> >
> > Nico,
> >
> > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats
> for the past 2 days.
> >
> > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but
> was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> >
> > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which
> seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on
> the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without
> any results.
> >
> > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the
> lack of information.
> >
> > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite
> difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published
> GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> >
> > Here we are this side.
> >
> > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
> project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a
> minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> >
> > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for
> HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
> particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
> welcomed.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> >> problems.
> >>
> >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
> >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> >> The sat is just above South America.
> >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> >>
> >> Thank you very much!
> >>
> >> Wei"
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Nico PA0DLO
> >>
> >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From occamrazr at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 23:04:36 2018
From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 19:04:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 rig setup files
Message-ID: <BEF2BD59-0E37-47B5-AA0A-04EB8B2EB1C9@yahoo.com>

I want to replace the existing IC-7000 "rig setup file? as shown in setup > Radio setup > Icom > Model.

So a few questions:
1. Where is this file located?  It is not in the Icom folder.
2. What does model ?others? do?
3. I am using a 7100.  Is it OK to use the 7000 model?

I do not want to do a restore with a data backup or reinstall if at all possible.

Any and all help appreciated.

Butch K8KO



From walterh at k5wh.net  Wed May 23 00:06:32 2018
From: walterh at k5wh.net (Walter Holmes)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 19:06:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d3f229$ec9a1c20$c5ce5460$@k5wh.net>

So where is this LIVE cd that is mentioned for these new sats?

Thanks,

Walter/K5WH

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Larry Howell
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:27 PM
To: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats

Scott and the other Windows users,

Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You insert it in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM and run exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a Windows PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux when she was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!

Larry AC8YE

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple < jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks and my greetings to you also.
>
> Very clear and thank you for the insights.
>
> Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in 
> spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally 
> in SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know 
> how to install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
>
> Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang 
> experiment is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try 
> receive some signals from these birds. But again wish to stress that 
> the project managers would have much more audience and feedback if 
> sharing more info (basic marketing), just a honest comment for improvement in such future projects.
> This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the 
> direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully 
> understood) that they fail to communicate well to get the best 
> feedback after launch from the HAM community which actually would help 
> them a lot in assessing there bird performance.
>
> Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
>
> 73
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>
> > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for 
> > use
> in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for that.
> >
> > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs 
> > (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/
> dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm 
> telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial decodes 
> but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I 
> was still very pleased!).
> >
> > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the
> 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not 
> aware that any was received.
> >
> > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band 
> > contact
> with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies 
> but others are watching for the signals.
> >
> > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to
> watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a 
> second SDR.
> >
> > Hope that helps!
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> >
> >
> > ===========================================
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> > To: Nico Janssen
> > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> >
> > Nico,
> >
> > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang 
> > sats
> for the past 2 days.
> >
> > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency 
> > but
> was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> >
> > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 
> > which
> seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring 
> on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening 
> without any results.
> >
> > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to 
> > the
> lack of information.
> >
> > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is 
> > quite
> difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the 
> published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> >
> > Here we are this side.
> >
> > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
> project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide 
> a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> >
> > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity 
> > for
> HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share, 
> particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more 
> welcomed.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were 
> >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received 
> >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter 
> >> problems.
> >>
> >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A 
> >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
> >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> >> The sat is just above South America.
> >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> >>
> >> Thank you very much!
> >>
> >> Wei"
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Nico PA0DLO
> >>
> >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum 
> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
> > views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: 
> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Wed May 23 00:19:39 2018
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 20:19:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <000001d3f229$ec9a1c20$c5ce5460$@k5wh.net>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001d3f229$ec9a1c20$c5ce5460$@k5wh.net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FfGG30uwMd_RCL5uRi2AQ+QMdCPP_ae1BgXjbmt=cpGig@mail.gmail.com>

>From earlier post.

??? via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> amsat.org
May 19 (3 days ago)
to amsat-bb
Hi OMs,


If the One Drive link for DSLWP does not work, please have a try with this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8
ZSw/view?usp=sharing


73!


Wei BG2BHC


On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Walter Holmes <walterh at k5wh.net> wrote:

> So where is this LIVE cd that is mentioned for these new sats?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walter/K5WH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Larry Howell
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:27 PM
> To: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
>
> Scott and the other Windows users,
>
> Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You insert it
> in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM and run
> exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a Windows
> PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux when she
> was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!
>
> Larry AC8YE
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > Thanks and my greetings to you also.
> >
> > Very clear and thank you for the insights.
> >
> > Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in
> > spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally
> > in SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know
> > how to install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
> >
> > Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang
> > experiment is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try
> > receive some signals from these birds. But again wish to stress that
> > the project managers would have much more audience and feedback if
> > sharing more info (basic marketing), just a honest comment for
> improvement in such future projects.
> > This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the
> > direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully
> > understood) that they fail to communicate well to get the best
> > feedback after launch from the HAM community which actually would help
> > them a lot in assessing there bird performance.
> >
> > Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> >
> >
> > > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings!
> > >
> > > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for
> > > use
> > in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for
> that.
> > >
> > > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs
> > > (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/
> > dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm
> > telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial decodes
> > but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I
> > was still very pleased!).
> > >
> > > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the
> > 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not
> > aware that any was received.
> > >
> > > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band
> > > contact
> > with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies
> > but others are watching for the signals.
> > >
> > > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to
> > watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a
> > second SDR.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps!
> > >
> > > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > >
> > >
> > > ===========================================
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> > > To: Nico Janssen
> > > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> > >
> > > Nico,
> > >
> > > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang
> > > sats
> > for the past 2 days.
> > >
> > > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency
> > > but
> > was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> > >
> > > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32
> > > which
> > seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring
> > on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening
> > without any results.
> > >
> > > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to
> > > the
> > lack of information.
> > >
> > > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is
> > > quite
> > difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the
> > published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> > >
> > > Here we are this side.
> > >
> > > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
> > project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide
> > a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> > >
> > > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity
> > > for
> > HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
> > particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
> > welcomed.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> > >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> > >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> > >> problems.
> > >>
> > >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> > >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> > >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> > >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit
> adjustment.
> > >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> > >> The sat is just above South America.
> > >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> > >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you very much!
> > >>
> > >> Wei"
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >> Nico PA0DLO
> > >>
> > >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> > >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> > >
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From aj9n at aol.com  Wed May 23 06:41:38 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 02:41:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-23 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <1638bbb4cd2-c92-b7e3@webjas-vab129.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-23 07:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?



Viktor Rydberg Gymnasium, Stockholm, Sweden, telebridge via K6DUE

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Contact was successful: Tue 2018-05-22 08:53:38 UTC 33 deg (***)

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg

Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/??

?

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, telebridge via VK4KHZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-31 16:58:36 UTC 40 deg



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-23 07:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1229. ??(***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1177. (***) 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-23 07:00 UTC. ?


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Wed May 23 09:28:56 2018
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 11:28:56 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 rig setup files
In-Reply-To: <BEF2BD59-0E37-47B5-AA0A-04EB8B2EB1C9@yahoo.com>
References: <BEF2BD59-0E37-47B5-AA0A-04EB8B2EB1C9@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <759eb306-37b7-7bc4-549a-5277c9343bc7@t-online.de>

Butch,
you cannot change the list.? I must contain only models the program can 
steer.
Select IC-7000 as model, but the addresses of the IC-7100.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 23.05.2018 um 01:04 schrieb Butch via AMSAT-BB:
> I want to replace the existing IC-7000 "rig setup file? as shown in setup > Radio setup > Icom > Model.
>
> So a few questions:
> 1. Where is this file located?  It is not in the Icom folder.
> 2. What does model ?others? do?
> 3. I am using a 7100.  Is it OK to use the 7000 model?
>
> I do not want to do a restore with a data backup or reinstall if at all possible.
>
> Any and all help appreciated.
>
> Butch K8KO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Wed May 23 10:18:48 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_Marc_Mompl=C3=A9?=)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 14:18:48 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FfGG30uwMd_RCL5uRi2AQ+QMdCPP_ae1BgXjbmt=cpGig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001d3f229$ec9a1c20$c5ce5460$@k5wh.net>
	<CAEMY9FfGG30uwMd_RCL5uRi2AQ+QMdCPP_ae1BgXjbmt=cpGig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMk2N4hP_9Ha9mbv5Y9V2uGy54rGf2nGQqT-nf0_YARKOFdVqA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

Thanks for all the good advices and infos. I will have to learn
Ubuntu/Linux for the decoder, will try this week-end and hopefully get the
decoder working. However the sats may be too far for my setup as having
only one 16 ele. cross yagi only on 70cm + good quality preamp,

I believe that FT4 transmission should work (at least Rx), hopefully.

Until the birds reach the moon pointing the antenna is very important, I am
using the Celestrack Keplers elements with SatPC32. Any expert with outer
space antenna pointing to confirm that this is OK?

I also not sure if SatPC32 will handle the Doppler properly and if
any special setting required. Anyone have any ideas about this?

73

Jean Marc (3B8DU)


On 23 May 2018 at 04:19, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:

> From earlier post.
>
> ??? via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> amsat.org
> May 19 (3 days ago)
> to amsat-bb
> Hi OMs,
>
>
> If the One Drive link for DSLWP does not work, please have a try with this:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8
> ZSw/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> 73!
>
>
> Wei BG2BHC
>
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Walter Holmes <walterh at k5wh.net> wrote:
>
> > So where is this LIVE cd that is mentioned for these new sats?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Walter/K5WH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Larry Howell
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:27 PM
> > To: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> >
> > Scott and the other Windows users,
> >
> > Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You insert it
> > in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM and
> run
> > exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a Windows
> > PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux when
> she
> > was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!
> >
> > Larry AC8YE
> >
> > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Thanks and my greetings to you also.
> > >
> > > Very clear and thank you for the insights.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in
> > > spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally
> > > in SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know
> > > how to install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
> > >
> > > Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang
> > > experiment is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try
> > > receive some signals from these birds. But again wish to stress that
> > > the project managers would have much more audience and feedback if
> > > sharing more info (basic marketing), just a honest comment for
> > improvement in such future projects.
> > > This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the
> > > direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully
> > > understood) that they fail to communicate well to get the best
> > > feedback after launch from the HAM community which actually would help
> > > them a lot in assessing there bird performance.
> > >
> > > Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > >
> > >
> > > > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greetings!
> > > >
> > > > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is for
> > > > use
> > > in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for
> > that.
> > > >
> > > > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs
> > > > (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/
> > > dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm
> > > telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial decodes
> > > but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I
> > > was still very pleased!).
> > > >
> > > > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of the
> > > 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not
> > > aware that any was received.
> > > >
> > > > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band
> > > > contact
> > > with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies
> > > but others are watching for the signals.
> > > >
> > > > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to
> > > watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a
> > > second SDR.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps!
> > > >
> > > > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ===========================================
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> > > > To: Nico Janssen
> > > > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> > > >
> > > > Nico,
> > > >
> > > > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang
> > > > sats
> > > for the past 2 days.
> > > >
> > > > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency
> > > > but
> > > was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> > > >
> > > > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32
> > > > which
> > > seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring
> > > on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening
> > > without any results.
> > > >
> > > > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to
> > > > the
> > > lack of information.
> > > >
> > > > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is
> > > > quite
> > > difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the
> > > published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> > > >
> > > > Here we are this side.
> > > >
> > > > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
> > > project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide
> > > a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity
> > > > for
> > > HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
> > > particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
> > > welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> > > >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> > > >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> > > >> problems.
> > > >>
> > > >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> > > >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> > > >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> > > >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit
> > adjustment.
> > > >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or
> not.
> > > >> The sat is just above South America.
> > > >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> > > >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you very much!
> > > >>
> > > >> Wei"
> > > >>
> > > >> 73,
> > > >> Nico PA0DLO
> > > >>
> > > >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> > > >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
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> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed May 23 14:24:05 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 10:24:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CAMk2N4hP_9Ha9mbv5Y9V2uGy54rGf2nGQqT-nf0_YARKOFdVqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001d3f229$ec9a1c20$c5ce5460$@k5wh.net>
	<CAEMY9FfGG30uwMd_RCL5uRi2AQ+QMdCPP_ae1BgXjbmt=cpGig@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMk2N4hP_9Ha9mbv5Y9V2uGy54rGf2nGQqT-nf0_YARKOFdVqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnObZv8irouM3Ob=ijdxSsVF60Mm5cvyCa9zuq1wbpH-t5w@mail.gmail.com>

I've continued to use the original TLE (
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/dslwp.txt) provided for this lunar transit
period in both Orbitron & GPredict.   That's resulted in a very
slow-changing AZ/EL over a 6 or 7 hour period each evening here.  Using
last night as an example, Orbitron put the doppler change to 436 MHz at
about 2 KHz less.  With such slow-changing AZ/El, I've just been turning
the rotator manually.

However, I only used that RF value for scanning around with HDSDR to
manually look for signals.

In the GNU Radio flowgraphs provided by the project team (
https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp), there is a block in each decoder that
accommodates doppler.  I saw a tweet this morning from the cubesat team (
https://twitter.com/bg2bhc/with_replies) that indicated that they hoped to
update the .TXT file that those flowgraph blocks use today.

-Scott,  K4KDR


=========================

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Jean Marc Mompl? <
jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Thanks for all the good advices and infos. I will have to learn
> Ubuntu/Linux for the decoder, will try this week-end and hopefully get the
> decoder working. However the sats may be too far for my setup as having
> only one 16 ele. cross yagi only on 70cm + good quality preamp,
>
> I believe that FT4 transmission should work (at least Rx), hopefully.
>
> Until the birds reach the moon pointing the antenna is very important, I am
> using the Celestrack Keplers elements with SatPC32. Any expert with outer
> space antenna pointing to confirm that this is OK?
>
> I also not sure if SatPC32 will handle the Doppler properly and if
> any special setting required. Anyone have any ideas about this?
>
> 73
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>
> On 23 May 2018 at 04:19, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From earlier post.
> >
> > ??? via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> amsat.org
> > May 19 (3 days ago)
> > to amsat-bb
> > Hi OMs,
> >
> >
> > If the One Drive link for DSLWP does not work, please have a try with
> this:
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8
> > ZSw/view?usp=sharing
> >
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> > Wei BG2BHC
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Walter Holmes <walterh at k5wh.net> wrote:
> >
> > > So where is this LIVE cd that is mentioned for these new sats?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Walter/K5WH
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Larry Howell
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:27 PM
> > > To: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> > >
> > > Scott and the other Windows users,
> > >
> > > Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You insert
> it
> > > in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM and
> > run
> > > exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a
> Windows
> > > PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux when
> > she
> > > was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!
> > >
> > > Larry AC8YE
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> > > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and my greetings to you also.
> > > >
> > > > Very clear and thank you for the insights.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT, in
> > > > spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years professionally
> > > > in SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just know
> > > > how to install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
> > > >
> > > > Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang
> > > > experiment is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try
> > > > receive some signals from these birds. But again wish to stress that
> > > > the project managers would have much more audience and feedback if
> > > > sharing more info (basic marketing), just a honest comment for
> > > improvement in such future projects.
> > > > This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the
> > > > direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully
> > > > understood) that they fail to communicate well to get the best
> > > > feedback after launch from the HAM community which actually would
> help
> > > > them a lot in assessing there bird performance.
> > > >
> > > > Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings!
> > > > >
> > > > > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is
> for
> > > > > use
> > > > in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful for
> > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs
> > > > > (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/
> > > > dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm
> > > > telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial
> decodes
> > > > but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I
> > > > was still very pleased!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of
> the
> > > > 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm not
> > > > aware that any was received.
> > > > >
> > > > > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band
> > > > > contact
> > > > with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those frequencies
> > > > but others are watching for the signals.
> > > > >
> > > > > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue to
> > > > watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a
> > > > second SDR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ===========================================
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> > > > > To: Nico Janssen
> > > > > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> > > > >
> > > > > Nico,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang
> > > > > sats
> > > > for the past 2 days.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency
> > > > > but
> > > > was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32
> > > > > which
> > > > seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been
> monitoring
> > > > on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening
> > > > without any results.
> > > > >
> > > > > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to
> > > > > the
> > > > lack of information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is
> > > > > quite
> > > > difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the
> > > > published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we are this side.
> > > > >
> > > > > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if
> the
> > > > project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide
> > > > a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity
> > > > > for
> > > > HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
> > > > particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
> > > > welcomed.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> > > > >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> > > > >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> > > > >> problems.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> > > > >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor
> DSLWP-A
> > > > >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> > > > >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit
> > > adjustment.
> > > > >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or
> > not.
> > > > >> The sat is just above South America.
> > > > >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> > > > >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you very much!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Wei"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 73,
> > > > >> Nico PA0DLO
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> > > > >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?

From pconver at gmail.com  Wed May 23 14:38:11 2018
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 11:38:11 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnObZv8irouM3Ob=ijdxSsVF60Mm5cvyCa9zuq1wbpH-t5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<156D05E0F4454A6D91C1C17288E9E9AF@CSI9020>
	<48F2B395-BFFE-4C64-A8E0-77309222C03F@gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkJy3dhGqqLGPiH5xHpAvhsf6Y4eiQF+0KReoU_tgc0_fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001d3f229$ec9a1c20$c5ce5460$@k5wh.net>
	<CAEMY9FfGG30uwMd_RCL5uRi2AQ+QMdCPP_ae1BgXjbmt=cpGig@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMk2N4hP_9Ha9mbv5Y9V2uGy54rGf2nGQqT-nf0_YARKOFdVqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJCSnObZv8irouM3Ob=ijdxSsVF60Mm5cvyCa9zuq1wbpH-t5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKnOv7n2mgfKbS9BenfMEzR_DR+iM+BBsTD66Dw4m9-6hw@mail.gmail.com>

Chinesse Lunar Sats AZ/EL, Dopplers & modes live available at
http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=dswla,dswlb , Keps updated daily.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've continued to use the original TLE (
> http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/dslwp.txt) provided for this lunar transit
> period in both Orbitron & GPredict.   That's resulted in a very
> slow-changing AZ/EL over a 6 or 7 hour period each evening here.  Using
> last night as an example, Orbitron put the doppler change to 436 MHz at
> about 2 KHz less.  With such slow-changing AZ/El, I've just been turning
> the rotator manually.
>
> However, I only used that RF value for scanning around with HDSDR to
> manually look for signals.
>
> In the GNU Radio flowgraphs provided by the project team (
> https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp), there is a block in each decoder that
> accommodates doppler.  I saw a tweet this morning from the cubesat team (
> https://twitter.com/bg2bhc/with_replies) that indicated that they hoped to
> update the .TXT file that those flowgraph blocks use today.
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
>
>
> =========================
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Jean Marc Mompl? <
> jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Thanks for all the good advices and infos. I will have to learn
> > Ubuntu/Linux for the decoder, will try this week-end and hopefully get
> the
> > decoder working. However the sats may be too far for my setup as having
> > only one 16 ele. cross yagi only on 70cm + good quality preamp,
> >
> > I believe that FT4 transmission should work (at least Rx), hopefully.
> >
> > Until the birds reach the moon pointing the antenna is very important, I
> am
> > using the Celestrack Keplers elements with SatPC32. Any expert with outer
> > space antenna pointing to confirm that this is OK?
> >
> > I also not sure if SatPC32 will handle the Doppler properly and if
> > any special setting required. Anyone have any ideas about this?
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> >
> >
> > On 23 May 2018 at 04:19, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From earlier post.
> > >
> > > ??? via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en>
> amsat.org
> > > May 19 (3 days ago)
> > > to amsat-bb
> > > Hi OMs,
> > >
> > >
> > > If the One Drive link for DSLWP does not work, please have a try with
> > this:
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/16YQ3XvQ9hLp6ckpwFj4OkxO2ONzJ8
> > > ZSw/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > >
> > > 73!
> > >
> > >
> > > Wei BG2BHC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Walter Holmes <walterh at k5wh.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So where is this LIVE cd that is mentioned for these new sats?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Walter/K5WH
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Larry
> Howell
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> > > >
> > > > Scott and the other Windows users,
> > > >
> > > > Windows is completely ignored.  The live Linux CD is live!  You
> insert
> > it
> > > > in your DVD/CD drive and reboot your PC.  Linux will load into RAM
> and
> > > run
> > > > exclusively from RAM.  It has a desktop not much different from a
> > Windows
> > > > PC or an Apple Mac.  Give it a try.  My mother started using Linux
> when
> > > she
> > > > was 84, and she certainly didn't have an IT background!
> > > >
> > > > Larry AC8YE
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> > > > jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and my greetings to you also.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very clear and thank you for the insights.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately I don?t have the required skills about linux and IT,
> in
> > > > > spite having quite a good RF knowledge (some 40 years
> professionally
> > > > > in SATs, Mobile, PMR, microwave and mobile up to 5G now), i just
> know
> > > > > how to install the APP?s o a PC and to do some basics settings?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, my station is quite average as yours, as the Longjiang
> > > > > experiment is quite interesting will continue to watch out and try
> > > > > receive some signals from these birds. But again wish to stress
> that
> > > > > the project managers would have much more audience and feedback if
> > > > > sharing more info (basic marketing), just a honest comment for
> > > > improvement in such future projects.
> > > > > This seems always to be the case in such HAM sat ventures, that the
> > > > > direct stakeholders are so taken with urgent matters (fully
> > > > > understood) that they fail to communicate well to get the best
> > > > > feedback after launch from the HAM community which actually would
> > help
> > > > > them a lot in assessing there bird performance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope my comments will help to improve our beloved projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 22, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The software on github  (https://github.com/bg2bhc/gr-dslwp) is
> > for
> > > > > > use
> > > > > in GNU Radio on linux, so a Windows computer would not be helpful
> for
> > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the hours after launch, several Amateurs
> > > > > > (http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/
> > > > > dashboard/pages_en/contribute.html) successfully decoded the 70cm
> > > > > telemetry using those GNU Radio flowgraphs (I got some partial
> > decodes
> > > > > but low SNR here prevented me from getting complete packets - but I
> > > > > was still very pleased!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last night (U.S. time), I'm not aware of anyone receiving any of
> > the
> > > > > 70cm telemetry.  We were asked to watch for JT4 as well, but I'm
> not
> > > > > aware that any was received.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the team has lost S-Band
> > > > > > contact
> > > > > with one of the cubesats.  I'm not setup to receive those
> frequencies
> > > > > but others are watching for the signals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For an average station like myself, the plan will be to continue
> to
> > > > > watch for 70cm telemetry with the GNU Radio software & JT4 with a
> > > > > second SDR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that helps!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ===========================================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:21 PM
> > > > > > To: Nico Janssen
> > > > > > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nico,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang
> > > > > > sats
> > > > > for the past 2 days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right
> frequency
> > > > > > but
> > > > > was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32
> > > > > > which
> > > > > seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been
> > monitoring
> > > > > on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this
> evening
> > > > > without any results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due
> to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > lack of information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is
> > > > > > quite
> > > > > difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the
> > > > > published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here we are this side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if
> > the
> > > > > project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should
> provide
> > > > > a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity
> > > > > > for
> > > > > HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
> > > > > particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be
> more
> > > > > welcomed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 73
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2
> were
> > > > > >> maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> > > > > >> telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> > > > > >> problems.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> > > > > >> "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor
> > DSLWP-A
> > > > > >> on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> > > > > >> We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit
> > > > adjustment.
> > > > > >> We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or
> > > not.
> > > > > >> The sat is just above South America.
> > > > > >> If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> > > > > >> 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thank you very much!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Wei"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 73,
> > > > > >> Nico PA0DLO
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> > > > > >>> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Wed May 23 14:53:16 2018
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 09:53:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites - 6E5RM Cancun Until June 1 and 6E5RM/XF3
	Cozumel May 23-24
Message-ID: <5b05805c.1c69fb81.a36b5.69f7@mx.google.com>

Just spotted this in the DXNL 2094 - May 23, 2018 DX Newsletter. Cozumel
news will be old when the weekend ANS bulletins come out ...
                
XE, Mexico:
     Members of the Radioclub Cancun will be active in the context of
     the Rally Maya Mexico 2018 between May 23 and June 1 with the
     callsign 6E5RM. QRV on 80-6m on SSB, RTTY, FT8, and via satellites.
     On May 23 and 24 they are also operating as 6E5RM/XF3 from Cozumel
     Island (NA-090). QSL via XE3N.

DX Newsletter is a free and weekly service of DARC Committee "DX"
(http://www.darcdxhf.de)

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From jbarbre at xmission.com  Wed May 23 15:07:10 2018
From: jbarbre at xmission.com (Jim Barbre)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 08:07:10 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] GNURadio for Windows
Message-ID: <8c1bcbf9-3da0-6916-027a-dc24b669459f@xmission.com>

There is a Windows version of GNURadio available for 64-bit machines. I 
am using ver. 3.7.9.2 on my Windows 7 laptop. I use it together with a 
program called "Amigos" for live decoding of pictures from the Russian 
Meteor WX satellite. It works great. Here is the link for the download.

http://www.gcndevelopment.com/gnuradio/downloads.htm

73
Jim Barbre
KB7YSY

From redski at bellsouth.net  Wed May 23 17:46:18 2018
From: redski at bellsouth.net (redski at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:46:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] GNURadio for Windows
Message-ID: <000001d3f2bd$f4dcd410$de967c30$@bellsouth.net>

Thanks for sharing that link to the Windows version of GNUradio. That should
make experimenting with GNU flowgraphs MUCH easier for us non-Linux
flunkies.

73,

Red

KC4LE

 


From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Wed May 23 18:15:29 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 22:15:29 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] GNURadio for Windows
In-Reply-To: <000001d3f2bd$f4dcd410$de967c30$@bellsouth.net>
References: <000001d3f2bd$f4dcd410$de967c30$@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <AD22A984-AE07-4CEE-A25E-FCB51AC2CFCF@gmail.com>

Red,

Sure it will help and I will surely try, the original post by me was about GNU for the new birds flying to the moon Longiang (1&2).

Per advices received I will try Linux as in any way it just a new challenge, if old ladies can master same I believe I may, <60 so far but near it?

Thanks to all for advice on that post. And I will feedback on any the Longiang adventure from my side,


Jean Marc (3B8DU)


> On May 23, 2018, at 9:46 PM, <redski at bellsouth.net> <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing that link to the Windows version of GNUradio. That should
> make experimenting with GNU flowgraphs MUCH easier for us non-Linux
> flunkies.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Red
> 
> KC4LE
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Wed May 23 18:31:31 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 22:31:31 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CALNQy4-wRbgaDc=iypja8GPecSpzRbcqu5pZxciXL_1gzfXokg@mail.gmail.com>
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Edson,

My congratulations (and for sure from the the community) for achieving the reception of the Longjiang and decoding the telemetry.

I would be grateful if you could let me know what antenna you have been using so far (up to 64K km) just for my learning.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On May 22, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jean,
> 
> I suggest usign the live Ubuntu ISO image with gnuradio and the necessary OOT modules for monitoring the GMSK signals. While installing gnuradio and the OOT modules manually can be done, it takes some effort. Running the live image is much easier. You do need a fast computer with at least four CPU cores  to be able to run all the flowgraphs.
> 
> I had some difficulties with the doppler correction in my setup during the first pass. The predictions seemed off and I had to manually adjust the frequency offset to get the signals into the demodulators' passbands. Once that was done, I could decode the GMSK telemetry from both satellites up to 64000 km. Above 64000 km, my small antenna was no longer enough. I will get a better antenna ready and will try monitoring again over the weekend.
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple at gmail.com <mailto:jean.marc.momple at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Nico,
> 
> I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats for the past 2 days.
> 
> On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
> 
> I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without any results.
> 
> For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the lack of information.
> 
> Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
> 
> Here we are this side.
> 
> Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
> 
> Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share, particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more welcomed.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl <mailto:hamsat at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> > 
> > After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
> > maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
> > telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
> > problems.
> > 
> > Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
> > "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
> > on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
> > We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
> > We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
> > The sat is just above South America.
> > If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
> > 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
> > 
> > Thank you very much!
> > 
> > Wei"
> > 
> > 73,
> > Nico PA0DLO
> > 
> > On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
> >> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
> >> 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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From ewpereira at gmail.com  Wed May 23 18:46:11 2018
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 15:46:11 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
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	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
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Jean Marc,

I've used a home-made 4-el LFA tuned for 436.5 MHz. It is the one in
Figure-3 in this article:

http://amsat-br.org/cubesat-serpens-decodificacao-dos-sinais/

The preamp used was an ARR SP432VDG (not the one shown in the picture). The
RX hardware was a Nooelec NESDR Smart (RTL-SDR).

73, Edson PY2SDR


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:

> Edson,
>
> My congratulations (and for sure from the the community) for achieving the
> reception of the Longjiang and decoding the telemetry.
>
> I would be grateful if you could let me know what antenna you have been
> using so far (up to 64K km) just for my learning.
>
> 73
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
> On May 22, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Jean,
>
> I suggest usign the live Ubuntu ISO image with gnuradio and the necessary
> OOT modules for monitoring the GMSK signals. While installing gnuradio and
> the OOT modules manually can be done, it takes some effort. Running the
> live image is much easier. You do need a fast computer with at least four
> CPU cores  to be able to run all the flowgraphs.
>
> I had some difficulties with the doppler correction in my setup during the
> first pass. The predictions seemed off and I had to manually adjust the
> frequency offset to get the signals into the demodulators' passbands. Once
> that was done, I could decode the GMSK telemetry from both satellites up to
> 64000 km. Above 64000 km, my small antenna was no longer enough. I will get
> a better antenna ready and will try monitoring again over the weekend.
>
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> jean.marc.momple at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nico,
>>
>> I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats
>> for the past 2 days.
>>
>> On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but
>> was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
>>
>> I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which
>> seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on
>> the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without
>> any results.
>>
>> For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the
>> lack of information.
>>
>> Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite
>> difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published
>> GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
>>
>> Here we are this side.
>>
>> Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the
>> project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a
>> minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
>>
>> Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM
>> to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share,
>> particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more
>> welcomed.
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> >
>> > After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
>> > maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
>> > telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
>> > problems.
>> >
>> > Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
>> > "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
>> > on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
>> > We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
>> > We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
>> > The sat is just above South America.
>> > If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
>> > 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much!
>> >
>> > Wei"
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Nico PA0DLO
>> >
>> > On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
>> >> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From martha at amsat.org  Wed May 23 21:17:06 2018
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 17:17:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
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The AMSAT Office will be closed from Thursday, May 24 - Tuesday, May 29th.

Happy Holiday!

-- 
73- Martha

From burns at fisher.cc  Wed May 23 21:17:47 2018
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 17:17:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on a TS-2000
Message-ID: <CABX7KxW2UAjEderiR1avU-UCM-vAqy4i_jJZMYKsEcVtwe6k0g@mail.gmail.com>

This may not seem like a satellite question, but it is.  When using the
paddle input for CW on a TS-2000 does the PTT light for the VFO you are
using turn red as though you had pressed the mike key?  Even on full
break-in (when I might expect it to blink in time with the code)?

It's satellite related because while I don't do CW, I built a little box to
send dit-dit-dit to get tuned in on a linear satellite, and while I get the
TS-2000's side tone in the earphone, I don't see the red light at all, and
have not really found it on another radio.

Thanks and 73,

Burns WB1FJ

From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Wed May 23 21:23:44 2018
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 16:23:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on a TS-2000
In-Reply-To: <CABX7KxW2UAjEderiR1avU-UCM-vAqy4i_jJZMYKsEcVtwe6k0g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABX7KxW2UAjEderiR1avU-UCM-vAqy4i_jJZMYKsEcVtwe6k0g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHC1P289n+K3993YQQcns2DTjfMOCbcFSKSk_SZUEWh_OMhAGA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Burns,

Make sure you have the VOX turned on when doing CW, that controls the break
in function for CW.  The red TX light should go on when sending CW.

73 John AF5CC

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Burns Fisher <burns at fisher.cc> wrote:

> This may not seem like a satellite question, but it is.  When using the
> paddle input for CW on a TS-2000 does the PTT light for the VFO you are
> using turn red as though you had pressed the mike key?  Even on full
> break-in (when I might expect it to blink in time with the code)?
>
> It's satellite related because while I don't do CW, I built a little box to
> send dit-dit-dit to get tuned in on a linear satellite, and while I get the
> TS-2000's side tone in the earphone, I don't see the red light at all, and
> have not really found it on another radio.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Burns WB1FJ
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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From burns at fisher.cc  Wed May 23 21:34:24 2018
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 17:34:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on a TS-2000
In-Reply-To: <CAHC1P289n+K3993YQQcns2DTjfMOCbcFSKSk_SZUEWh_OMhAGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABX7KxW2UAjEderiR1avU-UCM-vAqy4i_jJZMYKsEcVtwe6k0g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHC1P289n+K3993YQQcns2DTjfMOCbcFSKSk_SZUEWh_OMhAGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxWdsXVQX4JPAGFCL-fEoC_JagtbnFUJXjU=JPTH4W7YOA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you--that's probably it.  Not at all obvious!  I saw that some of the
things to adjust used the Vox button, but I thought it was set up right by
default so I never touched it.

Thanks again!

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:23 PM, John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Burns,
>
> Make sure you have the VOX turned on when doing CW, that controls the
> break in function for CW.  The red TX light should go on when sending CW.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Burns Fisher <burns at fisher.cc> wrote:
>
>> This may not seem like a satellite question, but it is.  When using the
>> paddle input for CW on a TS-2000 does the PTT light for the VFO you are
>> using turn red as though you had pressed the mike key?  Even on full
>> break-in (when I might expect it to blink in time with the code)?
>>
>> It's satellite related because while I don't do CW, I built a little box
>> to
>> send dit-dit-dit to get tuned in on a linear satellite, and while I get
>> the
>> TS-2000's side tone in the earphone, I don't see the red light at all, and
>> have not really found it on another radio.
>>
>> Thanks and 73,
>>
>> Burns WB1FJ
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu May 24 00:11:50 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 20:11:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Trouble with LOTW?
Message-ID: <fa38c1d82faa5fd4a0a833859522aa9b@etczone.com>

Anybody else having trouble getting a file to upload to Logbook of the
World today? I'm trying to load in some SO-50 QSOs from yesterday and
it's not processing them. I use TQSL and don't usually have a problem. 

If I contacted you on SO-50 yesterday and you're waiting for me to
confirm on LOTW, hang in there. I'm trying. 

Steve AI9IN

From tasmac at w5pfg.us  Thu May 24 01:40:06 2018
From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 20:40:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Maidenhead Grid EL58hx Activation Memorial Day Weekend
 2018 - Rescheduled
Message-ID: <e091eddd-6a15-1709-168f-a7ebac9286e0@w5pfg.us>

(Venice, LA, USA) Wyatt Dirks, AC0RA, and Clayton Coleman, W5PFG?s plan 
to activate maidenhead gridsquare EL58hx on Memorial Day weekend, 2018, 
is rescheduled due to unsafe weather conditions. The National Weather 
Service?s National Hurricane Center confirms 70% potential for a 
tropical depression to form in the next five days with potential to move 
into the Gulf of Mexico this weekend. Rainfall predicted to hit the 
Louisiana coast combined with additional moisture from the potential 
depression would inhibit safe access to the operating location. The new 
dates for the expedition are June 7-9, 2018.

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Thu May 24 02:20:12 2018
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 02:20:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] The VE3HLS Grand Finale Rove!
References: <808281768.4797585.1527128412561.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <808281768.4797585.1527128412561@mail.yahoo.com>

Get out your highlighter and circle June 15th, 16th and 17th on your calendars!? You don't want to miss The VE3HLS Grand Finale Rove!? This will be my final significant rove before I retire from satellite ops and get down to planning the next chapter of my life as I prepare to retire in Thailand.??

I will follow the St. Lawrence Seaway down from Lake Ontario to the Gulf of St. Lawrence, activating FN14, FN15, FN24/25, FN35/36, FN46/47, FN57/58 and FN59/69 along the way down and back.

As always, the inspiration for the rove is a result of a few of you posting your grids QSLed maps to Twitter.? I read them and base future roves on the gaps I see in your maps.

I'll work out a basic schedule over the next week or two and post it here and on Twitter.

73,
KenVE3HLS








From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Wed May 23 19:49:37 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 23:49:37 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Lunar sats
In-Reply-To: <CALNQy48J1-atpA-nDo1rLuwE9-nyeQ+E7zWM0au+HJaGAu5B5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee56dee2-6ce8-0a51-374e-f03894227fdd@burlingtontelecom.net>
	<e513f944-c3cb-acc7-0ff0-1941765a7f30@xs4all.nl>
	<C680DB3D-F150-4F62-BD84-91C07E3FC159@gmail.com>
	<CALNQy4-wRbgaDc=iypja8GPecSpzRbcqu5pZxciXL_1gzfXokg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63527D94-B88B-4BD2-83F6-91E71038CB99@gmail.com>
	<CALNQy48J1-atpA-nDo1rLuwE9-nyeQ+E7zWM0au+HJaGAu5B5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C281289D-9AB3-42AE-B2C5-5BBFCF5E35D1@gmail.com>

Edson,

Thanks for the info.

I have a 18 ele yagi therefore hopefully will be able to catch the birds eventually, worse case with FT4.

Thanks again, it helps to try and experiment.

73

Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On May 23, 2018, at 10:46 PM, Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jean Marc,
> 
> I've used a home-made 4-el LFA tuned for 436.5 MHz. It is the one in Figure-3 in this article:
> 
> http://amsat-br.org/cubesat-serpens-decodificacao-dos-sinais/ <http://amsat-br.org/cubesat-serpens-decodificacao-dos-sinais/>
> 
> The preamp used was an ARR SP432VDG (not the one shown in the picture). The RX hardware was a Nooelec NESDR Smart (RTL-SDR).
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple at gmail.com <mailto:jean.marc.momple at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Edson,
> 
> My congratulations (and for sure from the the community) for achieving the reception of the Longjiang and decoding the telemetry.
> 
> I would be grateful if you could let me know what antenna you have been using so far (up to 64K km) just for my learning.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> 
>> On May 22, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com <mailto:ewpereira at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Jean,
>> 
>> I suggest usign the live Ubuntu ISO image with gnuradio and the necessary OOT modules for monitoring the GMSK signals. While installing gnuradio and the OOT modules manually can be done, it takes some effort. Running the live image is much easier. You do need a fast computer with at least four CPU cores  to be able to run all the flowgraphs.
>> 
>> I had some difficulties with the doppler correction in my setup during the first pass. The predictions seemed off and I had to manually adjust the frequency offset to get the signals into the demodulators' passbands. Once that was done, I could decode the GMSK telemetry from both satellites up to 64000 km. Above 64000 km, my small antenna was no longer enough. I will get a better antenna ready and will try monitoring again over the weekend.
>> 
>> 73, Edson PY2SDR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple at gmail.com <mailto:jean.marc.momple at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Nico,
>> 
>> I have been trying to capture the signals from the both Longjiang sats for the past 2 days.
>> 
>> On Monday it seems that I receive a carrier on the right frequency but was not able to confirm that it was from Longjiang 1.
>> 
>> I used the initial Keppler?s and now using Celestrac in SatPC32 which seems to be OK when comparing with N2YO ele/az. I have been monitoring on the announced FX and having also JT4G ?on? for about this evening without any results.
>> 
>> For sure I am doing something wrong but cannot figure it out due to the lack of information.
>> 
>> Also, trying to get a decoder software for the GMSK telemetry is quite difficult for a non-IT geek, I don?t have clue how to have the published GITHUB decoder to work on my Windows computers?
>> 
>> Here we are this side.
>> 
>> Quite frustrating that the communication is not that good, as if the project team want the maximum of feedback and TLM they should provide a minimum of info. Just a personal opinion.
>> 
>> Anyway will try hard to receive these birds as a real opportunity for HAM to learn more on outer space com, if anyone can help and share, particularly the guys who already decoded the birds, it would be more welcomed.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On May 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl <mailto:hamsat at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
>> > maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
>> > telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
>> > problems.
>> > 
>> > Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
>> > "Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A
>> > on 435.425 and 436.425 now?
>> > We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an orbit adjustment.
>> > We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it works or not.
>> > The sat is just above South America.
>> > If it works, 435.425 should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
>> > 436.425 should be 250 bps GMSK.  Bothtransmit once in 5 minutes.
>> > 
>> > Thank you very much!
>> > 
>> > Wei"
>> > 
>> > 73,
>> > Nico PA0DLO
>> > 
>> > On 22-05-18 12:15, Mike Seguin wrote:
>> >> Any word on the two Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2?
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>> 
> 
> 


From aj9n at aol.com  Thu May 24 05:30:17 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 01:30:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-24 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <16390a056e7-c94-1145@webjas-vac231.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-24 06:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Janusz Kusoci?ski Primary School No. 71, Pozna?, Poland, telebridge via W6SRJ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact was successful: Wed 2018-05-23 11:06:52 UTC 66 deg (***)

?

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, telebridge via VK4KHZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-31 16:58:36 UTC 40 deg



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-24 06:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1230. ??(***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1178. (***) 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-24 06:00 UTC. (***)


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From skristof at etczone.com  Thu May 24 10:55:50 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 06:55:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Trouble with LOTW?
In-Reply-To: <fa38c1d82faa5fd4a0a833859522aa9b@etczone.com>
References: <fa38c1d82faa5fd4a0a833859522aa9b@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <dafaa9bb0c8a2a0652eb6ec9bc9663cc@etczone.com>

As usual, it was operator error. Always be sure that you are entering
the correct year in the date box when using TQSL. 

Now, I need to figure out why I didn't hear anyone on SO-50 this
morning. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-23 20:11, skristof at etczone.com wrote:

> Anybody else having trouble getting a file to upload to Logbook of the
> World today? I'm trying to load in some SO-50 QSOs from yesterday and
> it's not processing them. I use TQSL and don't usually have a problem. 
> 
> If I contacted you on SO-50 yesterday and you're waiting for me to
> confirm on LOTW, hang in there. I'm trying. 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________

From ai6do at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 03:56:11 2018
From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 03:56:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] User error on Falconsat-3
References: <220869631.1477543.1527220571371.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <220869631.1477543.1527220571371@mail.yahoo.com>

If you tried to message me by APRS on FS-3 over the past month or so and received no response, it's because?I managed to screw up when programming my TH-D72A memory channels for Falconsat-3. The first channel (AOS and rising) was fine, but the rest were totally messed up. As a result, I couldn't decode any packets for the last two-thirds of each pass. I have the channels configured properly now, so please try again next time!


73, Ryan AI6DO

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri May 25 11:39:09 2018
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 12:39:09 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 operations
Message-ID: <cd238086-a0f1-a822-ff91-7ccb2cf33e2c@btinternet.com>

Hi All,

Just to confirm that AO73/FUNcube-1 is now in continuous amateur 
transponder mode for the weekend.

As we have another long weekend, you can expect the autonomous mode, 
with high power telemetry only in sunlight, to recommence either late 
Monday or first thing Tuesday (UTC)

best 73

Graham

G3VZV


From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 11:59:52 2018
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 11:59:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: Athenoxat-1 beacon puzzles round 4
In-Reply-To: <744463310.1083400.1527241745826@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <744463310.1083400.1527241745826.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<744463310.1083400.1527241745826@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1805331297.1103263.1527249592904@mail.yahoo.com>

 

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Yesie Brama <yesie.l.brama at micro-space.org>To: Microspace <athenoxat at micro-space.org>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018, 6:51:32 AM GMT-3Subject: Athenoxat-1 beacon puzzles round 4
 Dear friends, 

It's been a while and hope this email finds you well. We'd like to inform that we've just enabled the new round of Athenoxat-1 beacon puzzles. 
Beacon puzzles is the regular data beacon from Athenoxat-1 with specific type 3. 
It contains 10 frames per burst every minute (30sec interval alternating with Morse CW).
It has a slight difference from the previous rounds and therefore we consider this experience as part of the in-orbit test. Hopefully it'll go smoothly. 

The kss files containing the frames can be submitted through the usual address athenoxat at micro-space.org 
Any number of frames are very useful for reconstructing the images. Thus we're hoping that stations with low elevation passes will still be able to participate. 
Our website will be updated daily and can be viewed here: http://www.micro-space.org/ham.html

For the stations around our control station (in Singapore), please keep tuning in as the satellite stays beaconing although it may seem appear busy in comm.operation. 
The only apparent change is that you may not hear the Morse CW once our comm.operation starts.
Please let us know if you need any clarifications or help in setting up some software for receiving Athenoxat-1 packets. 
Please feel free to inform others who may be interested and able to listen to Athenoxat-1. 
We are looking forward to your kss files then. 

Thank you in advance for listening, and have a good weekend. 
73 de Athenoxat-1 team(Yesie 9V1SQ)

|  | Virus-free. www.avg.com  |

  

From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Fri May 25 13:21:05 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 15:21:05 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
Message-ID: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>


The Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 have arrived at the Moon.
On 2018-05-25 between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC they are expected to pass
the Moon at a distance of about 300 km. At that time they should
perform a braking maneuver so that they can enter a high elliptical
300 x 9000 km orbit around the Moon. The planned orbit inclination
is unknown.

Unfortunately there is virtually no information on these satellites
coming from China. It is not clear if LJ 1 is recovered. Telemetry is
being received from the S band downlink of LJ 2 at 2275.22 MHz.
All other information, including recent orbital data, is missing.

Note that the usual satellite tracking programs and regular TLE
data can not be used for tracking satellites near the Moon. You
really need specific deep space tracking software and orbital
elements. TLE sets for the LongJiangs that were published earlier
have no value at all now that these satellites are in the vicinity of
the Moon. Again I would like to refer to my web page on this
subject:
https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html

73,
Nico PA0DLO


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Fri May 25 13:53:29 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 15:53:29 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>

Jordan,

Yes, you should see a sudden change in the doppler curve. And that
would be a welcome confirmation of a successful maneuver.

If you also can receive the LJ 1 S band downlink it would be extra
interesting to see what happens to that signal.

73, Nico

On 25-05-18 15:47, Jordan Trewitt wrote:
> If we have our S band antennas pointed up there, shouldn't we be able 
> to see the braking maneuver with the Doppler shift? Assuming the moon 
> (or Earth) doesn't block the signals.
> -Jordan
> KF5COQ
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl 
> <mailto:hamsat at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>
>
>     The Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 have arrived at the Moon.
>     On 2018-05-25 between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC they are expected to pass
>     the Moon at a distance of about 300 km. At that time they should
>     perform a braking maneuver so that they can enter a high elliptical
>     300 x 9000 km orbit around the Moon. The planned orbit inclination
>     is unknown.
>
>     Unfortunately there is virtually no information on these satellites
>     coming from China. It is not clear if LJ 1 is recovered. Telemetry is
>     being received from the S band downlink of LJ 2 at 2275.22 MHz.
>     All other information, including recent orbital data, is missing.
>
>     Note that the usual satellite tracking programs and regular TLE
>     data can not be used for tracking satellites near the Moon. You
>     really need specific deep space tracking software and orbital
>     elements. TLE sets for the LongJiangs that were published earlier
>     have no value at all now that these satellites are in the vicinity of
>     the Moon. Again I would like to refer to my web page on this
>     subject:
>     https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html
>
>     73,
>     Nico PA0DLO
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA
>     makes this open forum available
>     to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>     Opinions expressed
>     are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>     views of AMSAT-NA.
>     Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>     program!
>     Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


From jmtrewitt at gmail.com  Fri May 25 13:47:16 2018
From: jmtrewitt at gmail.com (Jordan Trewitt)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 08:47:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>

If we have our S band antennas pointed up there, shouldn't we be able to
see the braking maneuver with the Doppler shift? Assuming the moon (or
Earth) doesn't block the signals.
-Jordan
KF5COQ

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:

>
> The Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 have arrived at the Moon.
> On 2018-05-25 between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC they are expected to pass
> the Moon at a distance of about 300 km. At that time they should
> perform a braking maneuver so that they can enter a high elliptical
> 300 x 9000 km orbit around the Moon. The planned orbit inclination
> is unknown.
>
> Unfortunately there is virtually no information on these satellites
> coming from China. It is not clear if LJ 1 is recovered. Telemetry is
> being received from the S band downlink of LJ 2 at 2275.22 MHz.
> All other information, including recent orbital data, is missing.
>
> Note that the usual satellite tracking programs and regular TLE
> data can not be used for tracking satellites near the Moon. You
> really need specific deep space tracking software and orbital
> elements. TLE sets for the LongJiangs that were published earlier
> have no value at all now that these satellites are in the vicinity of
> the Moon. Again I would like to refer to my web page on this
> subject:
> https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Fri May 25 16:25:21 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 18:25:21 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>


It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
No further details yet.

73, Nico

On 25-05-18 15:53, Nico Janssen wrote:
> Jordan,
>
> Yes, you should see a sudden change in the doppler curve. And that
> would be a welcome confirmation of a successful maneuver.
>
> If you also can receive the LJ 1 S band downlink it would be extra
> interesting to see what happens to that signal.
>
> 73, Nico
>
> On 25-05-18 15:47, Jordan Trewitt wrote:
>> If we have our S band antennas pointed up there, shouldn't we be able 
>> to see the braking maneuver with the Doppler shift? Assuming the moon 
>> (or Earth) doesn't block the signals.
>> -Jordan
>> KF5COQ
>>
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl 
>> <mailto:hamsat at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ??? The Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 have arrived at the Moon.
>> ??? On 2018-05-25 between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC they are expected to pass
>> ??? the Moon at a distance of about 300 km. At that time they should
>> ??? perform a braking maneuver so that they can enter a high elliptical
>> ??? 300 x 9000 km orbit around the Moon. The planned orbit inclination
>> ??? is unknown.
>>
>> ??? Unfortunately there is virtually no information on these satellites
>> ??? coming from China. It is not clear if LJ 1 is recovered. 
>> Telemetry is
>> ??? being received from the S band downlink of LJ 2 at 2275.22 MHz.
>> ??? All other information, including recent orbital data, is missing.
>>
>> ??? Note that the usual satellite tracking programs and regular TLE
>> ??? data can not be used for tracking satellites near the Moon. You
>> ??? really need specific deep space tracking software and orbital
>> ??? elements. TLE sets for the LongJiangs that were published earlier
>> ??? have no value at all now that these satellites are in the 
>> vicinity of
>> ??? the Moon. Again I would like to refer to my web page on this
>> ??? subject:
>> ??? https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html
>>
>> ??? 73,
>> ??? Nico PA0DLO
>>
>> ??? _______________________________________________
>> ??? Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA
>> ??? makes this open forum available
>> ??? to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> ??? Opinions expressed
>> ??? are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> ??? views of AMSAT-NA.
>> ??? Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> ??? program!
>> ??? Subscription settings: 
>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri May 25 17:45:47 2018
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 12:45:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>

On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
> 
> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
> No further details yet.

Nico,

Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
signals?

73,

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From aj9n at aol.com  Fri May 25 18:03:46 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 14:03:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-25 18:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <16398788963-c9a-987a@webjas-vae116.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-25 18:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, telebridge via VK4KHZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-05-31 16:58:36 UTC 40 deg



******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-25 18:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1230. 
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1178. 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-24 06:00 UTC.


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************


Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

?

Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Fri May 25 18:50:54 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 20:50:54 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <2be5a5c2-444e-ec44-50be-db0189b3de3c@xs4all.nl>

Zach,

No, I don't have information on WebSDRs. They would have
to use large antennas and good preamps.

73, Nico

On 25-05-18 19:45, Zach Metzinger wrote:
> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>> No further details yet.
> Nico,
>
> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
> signals?
>
> 73,
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From jmtrewitt at gmail.com  Fri May 25 18:22:35 2018
From: jmtrewitt at gmail.com (Jordan Trewitt)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 13:22:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>

If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something with
someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a rotator
to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
-Jordan
KF5COQ

On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:

> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
> >
> > It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
> > successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
> > No further details yet.
>
> Nico,
>
> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
> signals?
>
> 73,
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From wageners at gmail.com  Fri May 25 21:49:11 2018
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 16:49:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
	<CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>

The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon :-)
Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
knowledgable folks chip in on this one.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt at gmail.com> wrote:

> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something with
> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a rotator
> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
> -Jordan
> KF5COQ
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
> > >
> > > It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
> > > successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
> > > No further details yet.
> >
> > Nico,
> >
> > Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
> > signals?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Fri May 25 21:58:05 2018
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 17:58:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO91 BOSTON to Europe
Message-ID: <3BCA01AD-8CA3-435B-A9F2-B7E12D1A5751@verizon.net>

I am still in New England and have access to a 9th floor patio overlooking Boston Harbor FN42 and want to try a 1 degree for me AO91 pass at 0400Z on early morning Saturday 26 May.   No clue what the RF noise would be up here but it maybe my last shot before going back to Texas. 

73 Tom N5HYP

Sent from my iPhone

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Fri May 25 22:44:06 2018
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 18:44:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: AO91 BOSTON to Europe
References: <3BCA01AD-8CA3-435B-A9F2-B7E12D1A5751@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <294489AD-4094-4EAC-A56C-44B0682760D3@verizon.net>

I just found out I can?t get access to the deck after local 11pm so will not be able to be there.  Sorry for the inconveniences. 

73

Tom. 
N5HYP

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Tom Schuessler <tjschuessler at verizon.net>
> Date: May 25, 2018 at 17:58:05 EDT
> To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org
> Subject: AO91 BOSTON to Europe
> 
> I am still in New England and have access to a 9th floor patio overlooking Boston Harbor FN42 and want to try a 1 degree for me AO91 pass at 0400Z on early morning Saturday 26 May.   No clue what the RF noise would be up here but it maybe my last shot before going back to Texas. 
> 
> 73 Tom N5HYP
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com  Sat May 26 02:55:21 2018
From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <2be5a5c2-444e-ec44-50be-db0189b3de3c@xs4all.nl>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
	<2be5a5c2-444e-ec44-50be-db0189b3de3c@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <001d01d3f49c$fdc6dc20$f9549460$@mypbmail.com>

Just a comment. Note the eccentricity of 0.9658153 for both Longjiang 1 and
2 in this week's AMSAT-NA TLE distribution. 

Definitely not a near circular orbit around the Earth.  It is the largest
eccentricity that I remember seeing.

No TLEs for Longjiang 1 and 2 next week!

Raymond Hoad
WA5QGD

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nico Janssen
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 13:51
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon

Zach,

No, I don't have information on WebSDRs. They would have
to use large antennas and good preamps.

73, Nico

On 25-05-18 19:45, Zach Metzinger wrote:
> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>> No further details yet.
> Nico,
>
> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
> signals?
>
> 73,
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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expressed
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From wandtosborne at gmail.com  Sat May 26 03:57:05 2018
From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 15:57:05 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab new launch window announced
Message-ID: <DE35A66D76F743E6A3F593BF4F0B9B71@OsbornesPC>

Hi Folks,

Rocket Lab have just announced the new window for the next Launch.
See: https://www.rocketlabusa.com/news/updates/rocket-lab-confirms-new-its-business-time-launch-window-and-bolsters-manifest/

It will be streamed from their web site.

73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC

From K8EC at k8ec.com  Fri May 25 04:38:50 2018
From: K8EC at k8ec.com (Dan Rahn)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 00:38:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale: Arrow Alaskan
Message-ID: <000c01d3f3e2$473b6670$d5b23350$@k8ec.com>

See ad on QRZ or email off-list for more info. $160 or even trade for the
smaller version.

 

Dan, K8EC


From abowker at bowkera.com  Fri May 25 22:47:54 2018
From: abowker at bowkera.com (abowker at bowkera.com)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 15:47:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale: UHF 10 MHz Wide 4 Pole Bandpass Filter (430 -
	440 MHz)
Message-ID: <031601d3f47a$6c1661f0$444325d0$@bowkera.com>

Having interference issues on UHF?  Check out the following:

 

DCI UHF 10 MHz Wide 4 Pole Bandpass Filter (Model: DCI-435-10C)

UHF 10 MHz Wide 4 Pole Bandpass Filter (430 - 440 MHz)

 

Ideal for US Satellite and weak signal

 

The design for this bandpass filter is four full quarter-wave linear
resonators with aperture coupling. It comes with silver-Teflon - gold "N"
connectors. 

The filters are the same height and width as the VHF models but are slightly
heavier and deeper. 

The DCI-435-10C is used in European-Asian ITU Regions 1 and 3, and is also
used in North America for weak signal, packet and other specialized
communications.

 

Connector Type: "N" silver-Teflon - gold

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/292578930891

 

Thanks and 73

Alan

WA6DNR


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sat May 26 13:16:02 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 15:16:02 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang 1 & 2 arrive at the Moon
In-Reply-To: <0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <ec6a691d-b914-6073-c472-557fd077e8e0@xs4all.nl>

All,

You can track LongJiang 2 in its high elliptical orbit around
the Moon with GMAT using this script:
https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/LongJiang2_NYC.script

This script includes the new updated orbital elements.
You can change the groundstation location from NYC to
your location under the GroundStation tab.

The output file ReportFile1.txt can be converted to a more
usable file format with this updated Python script:
https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/Tracking.py
This script also calculates doppler shift.

For further information on amateur deep space tracking,
see this web page:
https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html

73,
Nico PA0DLO


On 25-05-18 18:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>
> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
> No further details yet.
>
> 73, Nico
>
>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl 
>>> <mailto:hamsat at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> ??? The Chinese microsats LongJiang 1 & 2 have arrived at the Moon.
>>> ??? On 2018-05-25 between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC they are expected to pass
>>> ??? the Moon at a distance of about 300 km. At that time they should
>>> ??? perform a braking maneuver so that they can enter a high elliptical
>>> ??? 300 x 9000 km orbit around the Moon. The planned orbit inclination
>>> ??? is unknown.
>>>
>>> ??? Unfortunately there is virtually no information on these satellites
>>> ??? coming from China. It is not clear if LJ 1 is recovered. 
>>> Telemetry is
>>> ??? being received from the S band downlink of LJ 2 at 2275.22 MHz.
>>> ??? All other information, including recent orbital data, is missing.
>>>
>>> ??? Note that the usual satellite tracking programs and regular TLE
>>> ??? data can not be used for tracking satellites near the Moon. You
>>> ??? really need specific deep space tracking software and orbital
>>> ??? elements. TLE sets for the LongJiangs that were published earlier
>>> ??? have no value at all now that these satellites are in the 
>>> vicinity of
>>> ??? the Moon. Again I would like to refer to my web page on this
>>> ??? subject:
>>> ??? https://hamsat1.home.xs4all.nl/index.html
>>>
>>> ??? 73,
>>> ??? Nico PA0DLO
>>>
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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Sat May 26 15:25:10 2018
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 11:25:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
	<CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com>

I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the moon orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the experts chime in on this.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:

The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon :-)
Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
knowledgable folks chip in on this one.

Stefan, VE4NSA

> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something with
> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a rotator
> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
> -Jordan
> KF5COQ
> 
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>> No further details yet.
>> 
>> Nico,
>> 
>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
>> signals?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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From charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk  Sat May 26 15:44:25 2018
From: charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk (charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 16:44:25 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
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Michael

I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for a
satellite orbiting the moon.

1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise (+ve
Doppler) and moonset (-ve).

2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
changing in comparison).

3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.

1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or Moonsked.  I
can't help with 3.

Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~ +3
to -4.5kHz at S-Band.

With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate Doppler
shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift change when
probes were captured by the target planet was quite interesting (a slowly
changing shift to a cyclic one).

73

Charlie G3WDG

 > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the moon
> orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that there
> would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate for the
> speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower speed than
> a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the
> 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour range
> orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon could
> be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the whole
> time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon
> satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear
> the experts chime in on this.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon :-)
> Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
> you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
> knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something
>> with
>> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a
>> rotator
>> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
>> -Jordan
>> KF5COQ
>>
>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>> No further details yet.
>>>
>>> Nico,
>>>
>>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
>>> signals?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> --- Zach
>>> N0ZGO
>>>
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From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sat May 26 16:54:18 2018
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 18:54:18 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
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In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published
a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
> Michael
>
> I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for a
> satellite orbiting the moon.
>
> 1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise (+ve
> Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>
> 2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
> changing in comparison).
>
> 3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>
> 1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or Moonsked.  I
> can't help with 3.
>
> Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~ +3
> to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>
> With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate Doppler
> shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift change when
> probes were captured by the target planet was quite interesting (a slowly
> changing shift to a cyclic one).
>
> 73
>
> Charlie G3WDG
>
>   > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the moon
>> orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that there
>> would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate for the
>> speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower speed than
>> a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the
>> 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour range
>> orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon could
>> be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the whole
>> time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon
>> satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear
>> the experts chime in on this.
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon :-)
>> Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
>> you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
>> knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>
>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something
>>> with
>>> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a
>>> rotator
>>> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
>>> -Jordan
>>> KF5COQ
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>> No further details yet.
>>>> Nico,
>>>>
>>>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
>>>> signals?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> --- Zach
>>>> N0ZGO
>>>>
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From lee-fl at cfl.rr.com  Sun May 27 02:11:03 2018
From: lee-fl at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 22:11:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-147 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-147

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Help Requested to Monitor for Signals From Chinese Lunar Sats
* Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution
* Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers
* Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018
* China Microsatellite Symposium 2018
* 25 Year Archive of Keplerian Elements Now on AMSAT Web Site
* Satellite Shorts

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-147.01
ANS-147 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 147.01
 ?From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE May 27, 2018
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-147.01

Help Requested to Monitor for Signals From Chinese Lunar Sats

After their launch on 2018-05-20 at 21:28 UTC, LJ 1 and LJ 2 were
maneuvered onto a track to the Moon. Several amateurs received
telemetry from the satellites. But now LJ 1 appears to encounter
problems.

Quoting Wei BG2BHC:
"Can you help to find amateurs in the US to help to monitor DSLWP-A on 
435.425
and 436.425 now?? We lost the contact of satellite A on S band after an 
orbit
adjustment.? We just tried to switch on UHF, but we don't know if it 
works or
not.

If operating, 435.425 MHz should be 500bps GMSK and JT4 alternately.
436.425 MHz should be 250 bps GMSK.? Both transmit once in 5 minutes.

LONGJIANG 1 - NORAD CAT ID 43471
LONGJIANG 2 - NORAD CAT ID 43472

[Nico, PA0DLO, for the above information]


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Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has announced that three
cubesat carrying Amateur Radio payloads were deployed from the ISS on May 11
at around 1030 UTC. See AMSAT News Service bulletin ANS-133 for details.

The following cubesats have been added to this week's AMSAT-NA TLE
distribution and are designated by Space-Track as follows:

1KUNS-PF (Kenya)- NORAD CAT ID 43466 (a 3U cubesat with a 1200 bps or 9600
bps telemetry beacon at 437.300 MHz)

UBAKUSAT (Turkey)- NORAD CAT ID 43467 (a 3U cubesat with a CW beacon at
437.225 MHz, a telemetry beacon at 435.325 MHZ, and a linear transponder
with a 435.200 - 435.250 MHz downlink / 145.940 - 145.990 MHz uplink)

Irazu (Costa Rica) - NORAD CAT ID 43468 (a 1U cubesat with a 9600 bps
telemetry beacon at 436.500 MHz)

Nico Janssen (PA0DLO) reminds us that it is still too early to tell if the
above CAT ID's are correct for each object. There may be changes.

[ANS thanks Ray, WA5QGD, for the above information]


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Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers

Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR
Digital Communications Conference (DCC) and publication in the
Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published
by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for
publication. Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2018 and should
be submitted to

Maty Weinberg, ARRL
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111
or via the Internet to
maty at arrl.org

The ARRL and TAPR DCC is an international forum for radio amateurs
to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques.
This year, the DCC is in Albuquerque, New Mexico, September 14-
16. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange
ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories,
experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, but are
not limited to:

? Software Defined Radio (SDR)
? Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO)
? Digital satellite communications
? Global position system
? Precise Timing
? Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS)
? Short messaging (a mode of APRS)
? Digital Signal Processing (DSP)
? HF digital modes
? Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks
? Spread spectrum
? IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for
 ?? A mateur Radio
? Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio
? Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking
? Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in
 ?? Amateur Radio
? Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols
? Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art

Go to https://tinyurl.com/y7wgm6vh to view the guidelines for paper
submissions

[ANS thanks the TAPR PSR for the above information]


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Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018

You are invited to participate in the 2018 NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality
{AAQ) Workshop.? This event will take place at Glenn Research Center in
Cleveland, Ohio on Friday, September 7 from 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM. The event
targets academics (faculty, researchers, students) involved with space 
related
activities such as cube sat, small sat, high altitude balloon, rocket and
more.? It is also designed for those wishing to be involved with NASA space
related projects.? The event will feature speakers and a poster session.

Travel stipends from NASA are available to attendees on a limited basis and
will favor those giving a presentation or poster.? There is no registration
charge for attending the event but registration in advance is required.

Please register at the link below by July 31.

http://spider2.eng.auburn.edu/AAQ/registration.html

The NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality is an open access virtual academy of
educational modules, lessons learned, standards, case studies and more
related to quality assurance for space related projects, especially those
from academic based teams.? The website is:

http://aaq.auburn.edu

Links to the agenda and materials from previous NASA AAQ Workshops can be
found at the link below:

http://aaq.eng.auburn.edu/events

[ANS thanks Alice Smith and Jeff Smith for the above information]


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China Microsatellite Symposium 2018

The China Microsatellite Symposium(CMS2018), (www.microsatsymp.com) will 
be held
at Northwestern Polytechnical University, Xi?an China on 18th ? 20th 
November
2018. The symposium includes keynote presentations and several sessions 
which
will focus on the design experience, scientific missions, launch 
opportunities
and all new technologies about microsatellites. In addition, another import
session, International CubeSat and Mission Contest will be held on 20th 
November
2018, after which a free launch opportunity of 3U CubeSat or 1U payload 
capacity
will be awarded to the winner of the first prize. Participants can get
information and submit the works through the official website of our 
contest:
www.cubesatcontest.org.

The submission deadlines for the abstract of CMS2018 and work of CubeSat 
contest
are both August 31, 2018. You could submit abstract and get information 
on the
website www.microsatsymp.com

Along with the symposium, there will also be a related exhibition, 
during which
you can find the updated progress of CubeSat, launchers and other related
technology. For exhibitors, you could also get information about booth 
on the
website.

The event is supported by China National Space Administration, International
Astronautical Federation, Chinese Society of Astronautics and Chinese 
Institute
of Command and Control.

If you have any questions, please contact service at microsatsymp.com.

[ANS thanks Ray Nugent for the above information]


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25 Year Archive of Keplerian Elements Now on AMSAT Web Site

AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager Ray Hoad, WA5QGD??? has made his archive
of orbital elements for active amateur satellites back to October 1993.
Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P has posted this on the AMSAT web site at:
http://www.amsat.org/tle/historical/?? Joe commented, "Thanks for all
those bulletins, Ray. That represents a lot of work over 25 years!"

[ANS thanks Ray Hoad, WA5QGD and Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P for the above
 ?information]


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Satellite Shorts

(Venice, LA, USA) Wyatt Dirks, AC0RA, and Clayton Coleman, W5PFG?s plan
 ?? to activate maidenhead gridsquare EL58hx on Memorial Day weekend, 2018,
 ?? is rescheduled due to unsafe weather conditions. The National Weather
 ?? Service?s National Hurricane Center confirms 70% potential for a
 ?? tropical depression to form in the next five days with potential to move
 ?? into the Gulf of Mexico this weekend. Rainfall predicted to hit the
 ?? Louisiana coast combined with additional moisture from the potential
 ?? depression would inhibit safe access to the operating location. The new
 ?? dates for the expedition are June 7-9, 2018.

AMSAT Vice President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N0JY has made his
 ?? Engineering presentation at the 2018 Dayton Hamvention AMSAT forum
 ?? available on-line: http://amsat.us/?p=189 There is a PDF version
 ?? for viewing, and the original pptx version. You may reuse the
 ?? information in this presentation in its entirety as a presentation, or
 ?? by the use excerpts from this presentation to enhance your own pre-
 ?? sentation, so long as you do not alter the original wording when
 ?? making your own slides.? (via @N0JY on Twitter)

Members of the Radio Club Croatian Flora Fauna will be active
 ? as 9A90P from Vela Palagruza Island (CI-084, LH 0057) between
 ? June 16-23rd. Operators mentioned are Marijan/9A1MB, Radovan/
 ? 9A2SC, Zeljko/9A3DF, Branko/9A3ST, Kiko/9A4WY, Vito/9A5VS,
 ? Neven/9A5YY and Emir/9A6AA. Activity will be on 80-6 meters
 ? near the IOTA frequencies using CW, SSB, the Digital modes
 ? and the satellites. QSL 9A90P via 9A2MF. ADDED NOTE. Look for
 ? some operators to possibly operate (using their own callsign)
 ? from neighboring islands: Mala Palagruza (EU-090, CI-461) and
 ? Galijula Island (EU-090, CI-462).
 ? (thanks to Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1365)


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donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
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Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
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From radiomb at bellsouth.net  Sun May 27 03:01:01 2018
From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 03:01:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-901H
References: <1461382196.1604236.1527390061162.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1461382196.1604236.1527390061162@mail.yahoo.com>

 I am looking for an IC-910H. A member in a local club has one for sale. What would be a fair price for it, it works and does not have 1.2G module. Also any ideas on finding the 1.2 module and a fair price for it. I was going to wait for the new IC-9700 but?Icom said it might be a year out yet.?Itching to get on the linear birds.73 Mike? K4MIA

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From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sun May 27 05:23:25 2018
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 05:23:25 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-901H
In-Reply-To: <1461382196.1604236.1527390061162@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1461382196.1604236.1527390061162.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1461382196.1604236.1527390061162@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkONcU-0Km0RU_Z8XVmPeciB=F7HzCOMXVoAfgksrjOtTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/27/18, radiomb <radiomb at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>  I am looking for an IC-910H. A member in a local club has one for sale.
> What would be a fair price for it, it works and does not have 1.2G module.
> Also any ideas on finding the 1.2 module and a fair price for it. I was
> going to wait for the new IC-9700 but Icom said it might be a year out
> yet. Itching to get on the linear birds.73 Mike  K4MIA
>

i bought one second-hand from a swap and shop website several years
ago and paid around $1000 CDN for it (about $750 USD).  I've been
quite satisfied with it for satellite work.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From peter.guelzow at kourou.de  Sun May 27 10:37:34 2018
From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (Peter Guelzow)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 12:37:34 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] ESERO Germany opened in Bochum
Message-ID: <b8908d8d-9d9d-899f-fa85-d297f8de7e05@kourou.de>

AMSAT-Deutschland e.V.? and the Bochum Observatory are part of ESA?s
current education iniative.

On May 16, 2018, the newly founded European Space Education Resource
Office (ESERO) in Germany, or ESERO Germany for short, was officially
launched at a ceremony at the Bochum Planetarium. So far there have been
11 such ESERO offices in 13 different European countries - Germany was
not yet there. After a lengthy selection process, Bochum was finally
selected as the location for Germany. In cooperation with the
Ruhr-University Bochum, the Bochum Observatory, the AMSAT-DL and other
partners are founding members of this educational and scientific consortium.

This is a joint project of the European Space Agency ESA, the German
Aerospace Center DLR and other partners with the core objective of
integrating space research into school programmes and thus promoting the
interest and skills of students in MINT subjects (mathematics, computer
science, natural sciences and technology).

The Bochum Observatory and AMSAT-DL are proud to be part of ESERO and
are looking forward to contributing their expertise to the project!


Link:?
http://amsat-dl.org/index.php/news-mainmenu-97/256-esero-germany-in-bochum-eroeffnet-2




From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun May 27 22:53:01 2018
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 22:53:01 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas used for AO-92 L/V,
	& a comment about AO-92 this morning...
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUc2bwy1O5o69qsh0XLCO_mVwa-7_680Qz6gto0iMd22Gg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

It has been almost 4 months since AO-92 was opened up for general use, and
the first L/V activation. I have tried to work the L/V configuration anytime
it is active, whether I am home or away from home. I have worked
approximately
20 different stations over this time. Most of the time, I have used a
5-element
Comet CY-1205 Yagi with my Alinco DJ-G7T HT for my 1.2 GHz uplink.
Sometimes,
I go with a Chinese-made 10-element Yagi I ordered from an eBay seller.

>From working different stations across the country, it seems like other
stations
I work are using larger antennas than mine - maybe the same 10-element Yagi
I
use, the 16-element Comet CYA-1216E Yagi, Yagis with more than 16 elements,
or
some have used a helix. My question is this: other than the HT duckies used
by
a couple of stations early on, does anyone besides me use an antenna
smaller
than a 10-element Yagi to work AO-92 L/V? If so, what are you using? I am
not
so concerned about transmitter power, as there are a few of us using HTs
with
1W output on the 1.2 GHz band, and we are able to work AO-92 at that power
level.

A comment about the AO-92 pass around 1625 UTC this morning...

This was not a high pass out here in Arizona, with maximum elevation around
13
degrees to the east. I have worked stations to the east around this
elevation
in the past, so I went out to try for more contacts. Near the midpoint of
the
pass here, I heard a station make 2 long CQ calls on the pass. There should
be
no need to make CQ calls, let alone long CQ calls, on any FM satellite. The
145.880 MHz AO-92 downlink is easy to hear. There are ample opportunities
to
get this set up, by working other AO-92 passes in the normal U/V
configuration.
If the issue is getting the uplink frequency and/or antenna aligned with
the
satellite, full-duplex operation should ensure that there is no need for a
long transmission to be heard through the satellite.

If you want to hear the audio I recorded from this pass, it is in my Dropbox
space at http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ . Look in the Satellite_Audio-2018
folder,
and find the MP3 file with the name starting with "20180527-1626UTC47" for
the
recording.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Mon May 28 05:16:18 2018
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 05:16:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ESERO Germany opened in Bochum
In-Reply-To: <b8908d8d-9d9d-899f-fa85-d297f8de7e05@kourou.de>
References: <b8908d8d-9d9d-899f-fa85-d297f8de7e05@kourou.de>
Message-ID: <983203307.6292435.1527484578307@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Peter,
Thanks for sharing this update and good to see how space agencies like ESA are associating with organizations like AMSAT to bring space science to the classroms.This is good for our hobby as well.?
73
Nitin [VU3TYG] 

    On Sunday, 27 May, 2018, 4:09:04 PM IST, Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow at kourou.de> wrote:  
 
 AMSAT-Deutschland e.V.? and the Bochum Observatory are part of ESA?s
current education iniative.

On May 16, 2018, the newly founded European Space Education Resource
Office (ESERO) in Germany, or ESERO Germany for short, was officially
launched at a ceremony at the Bochum Planetarium. So far there have been
11 such ESERO offices in 13 different European countries - Germany was
not yet there. After a lengthy selection process, Bochum was finally
selected as the location for Germany. In cooperation with the
Ruhr-University Bochum, the Bochum Observatory, the AMSAT-DL and other
partners are founding members of this educational and scientific consortium.

This is a joint project of the European Space Agency ESA, the German
Aerospace Center DLR and other partners with the core objective of
integrating space research into school programmes and thus promoting the
interest and skills of students in MINT subjects (mathematics, computer
science, natural sciences and technology).

The Bochum Observatory and AMSAT-DL are proud to be part of ESERO and
are looking forward to contributing their expertise to the project!


Link:?
http://amsat-dl.org/index.php/news-mainmenu-97/256-esero-germany-in-bochum-eroeffnet-2



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From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 12:20:51 2018
From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 06:20:51 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1527510057.NH8zf54sJPMeqNH8zfzMBm@mf-smf-ucb030c1>


http://buy.v4events.com
Mark Thompson


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon May 28 16:42:30 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 12:42:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <1527510057.NH8zf54sJPMeqNH8zfzMBm@mf-smf-ucb030c1>
References: <1527510057.NH8zf54sJPMeqNH8zfzMBm@mf-smf-ucb030c1>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMctWGm7r8Epjv=OeGkqhP1icYgvUtJiPECodyQ1Et_UQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is probably something you shouldn't click on. malware or something bad.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Mark Thompson via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> http://buy.v4events.com
> Mark Thompson
>
> _______________________________________________
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From peter.guelzow at kourou.de  Mon May 28 20:23:37 2018
From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (Peter Guelzow)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 22:23:37 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT at the HamRadio 2018 in Friedrichshafen
Message-ID: <53100e55-54d4-f9ba-d775-ec1134e90c99@kourou.de>


  AMSAT at the HamRadio 2018 in Friedrichshafen


AMSAT-DL will again be present at Ham Radio 2018 from June 1 to June 3
in Friedrichshafen.

Visit us at booth #567 in hall A1

Furthermore, a lecture "Es'hail-2 with AMSAT P4-A transponder" is
planned for Saturday at 12:00 o'clock in room London area.

?



From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue May 29 04:06:59 2018
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 04:06:59 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Prescott AZ hamfest, 1-2 June 2018
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUe+GW-hECcdEkJRQQaz9uMkUEgDGjHkAVssLYWVAmSaQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT booth at the Prescott Hamfest, which is also serving
as the 2018 ARRL Arizona State Convention, this Friday and Saturday (1-2
June 2018). The hamfest will be at the Prescott campus of Embry-Riddle
Aeronautical University, on the north side of Prescott along Willow Creek
Road, west of AZ-89 and south of the end of the AZ-89A (Pioneer Parkway)
freeway. More information about the hamfest is available at:

http://www.prescotthamfest.com/

During the two-day event, I will have demonstrations on amateur satellite
operating. If you hear WD9EWK on the satellites during the hamfest, please
fell free to call and be a part of the fun. The hamfest site is in grid
DM34, in Arizona's Yavapai County.

While at the hamfest, I will use my @WD9EWK Twitter account to send out
updates, and pictures of the hamfest. If you are not on Twitter, you can
still view these updates without having to get a Twitter account. Simply
follow this link to view my tweets in a browser window:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

After the hamfest, all QSOs made with WD9EWK during these demonstrations
will be uploaded to Logbook of the World. If you wish to receive a QSL card
for any contacts made with WD9EWK during the hamfest, please e-mail me
directly with the QSO details. If you are in the log, I will send you a QSL
card. There is no need to first send me a QSL card or SASE.

Thanks in advance, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue May 29 04:25:25 2018
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 04:25:25 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK satellite activity around central/northern AZ on
	1-2 June
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcOmgSdAOizPc-0ojK7jjbSWUrAVXmc7ARdEY2Lrmv3UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

While attending the Prescott Hamfest this Friday and Saturday, I will have
some time after each day to venture away from Prescott and operate from
different locations. The DM34/DM35 line is about 30 miles north of Prescott
via AZ-89, and is a nice spot for working satellites, for example. Is there
any interest in working grids like DM35, DM44, or possibly DM45 on either
Friday or Saturday evening? Or even something like DM25 to the northwest
of Prescott along I-40? Please e-mail me directly, or send me a tweet or
DM to my @WD9EWK Twitter account, if there are some grids in this area
that you might want to hear on the satellites Friday or Saturday evening.

The hamfest runs until 4pm/2300 UTC on Friday, and 3pm/2200 UTC Saturday.
It would be after these times, when I would be able to depart Prescott for
some other grids. I don't know how late I plan on staying out both nights,
but I will end up back home sometime on Saturday night, possibly late that
night, depending on where my post-hamfest Arizona road trip goes. I will
have my TH-D72 squawking to the APRS network as WD9EWK-9, and this will
be visible online at (among other places) http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9 in a
browser window. Updates will be posted on my @WD9EWK Twitter account, which
can be viewed in a browser window at http://twitter.com/WD9EWK without a
Twitter account.

Just like with the QSOs made during the hamfest, I'll upload any other
QSOs I make this weekend to Logbook of the World. If you'd like a QSL card,
please e-mail me the QSO details. If you are in the log, I'll send a card.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From jbl4560 at yahoo.com  Tue May 29 06:18:57 2018
From: jbl4560 at yahoo.com (Mike S)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 02:18:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1527574742.NXyFfWEy4QNRUNXyIfOdl8@mf-smf-ucb024c2>


http://screen.bowlgc.com

Mike S


From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Tue May 29 07:10:34 2018
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 08:10:34 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73
Message-ID: <e3ecc9e7-a7d7-d655-606f-8bedba2de4b4@btinternet.com>

Hi All,

AO73/FUNcube-1 is now in autonomous doe for the rest of the week. The 
transponder is on when the spacecraft is in eclipse.

73

Graham

G3VZV


From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue May 29 16:37:57 2018
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:37:57 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
	<CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com>
	<c73e52613980e444e3b8e714ae3a671c.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>
	<6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>

Dear All,

May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.

Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so far?

I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
> LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
> This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published
> a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
> 
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
> 
> On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>> Michael
>> 
>> I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for a
>> satellite orbiting the moon.
>> 
>> 1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise (+ve
>> Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>> 
>> 2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>> changing in comparison).
>> 
>> 3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>> 
>> 1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or Moonsked.  I
>> can't help with 3.
>> 
>> Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~ +3
>> to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>> 
>> With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate Doppler
>> shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift change when
>> probes were captured by the target planet was quite interesting (a slowly
>> changing shift to a cyclic one).
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Charlie G3WDG
>> 
>>  > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the moon
>>> orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that there
>>> would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate for the
>>> speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower speed than
>>> a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the
>>> 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour range
>>> orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon could
>>> be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the whole
>>> time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon
>>> satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear
>>> the experts chime in on this.
>>> 
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon :-)
>>> Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
>>> you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
>>> knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>> 
>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something
>>>> with
>>>> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a
>>>> rotator
>>>> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
>>>> -Jordan
>>>> KF5COQ
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>> No further details yet.
>>>>> Nico,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
>>>>> signals?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- Zach
>>>>> N0ZGO
>>>>> 
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>>>>> of
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>> 
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> 
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue May 29 18:50:44 2018
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 14:50:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon,

Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
system. There is no need to take any action.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice President
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue May 29 19:26:55 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 15:26:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>

Thanks for the info, Paul!

As a check, I tried to log in and my current password was not accepted.

I clicked the Password Reset button and it indicated that instructions would 
be emailed to me, but nothing has been received.

-Scott,  K4KDR



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Stoetzer
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:50 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website

Good afternoon,

Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
system. There is no need to take any action.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice President
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) 


From skristof at etczone.com  Tue May 29 19:52:20 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 15:52:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a75d337e25d708312d217be174efbf18@etczone.com>

You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
to take some kind of action. Recommendation? 

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-29 14:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

> Good afternoon,
> 
> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
> system. There is no need to take any action.
> 
> We apologize for any inconvenience.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> Executive Vice President
> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
> _______________________________________________

From mike at ab9v.us  Tue May 29 19:38:32 2018
From: mike at ab9v.us (Mike Cox)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 15:38:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <897de705-743e-9eac-7dfc-0a5af8118e67@ab9v.us>

Me too, No reply!

Mike, AB9V


On 5/29/2018 15:26 PM, Scott wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Paul!
>
> As a check, I tried to log in and my current password was not accepted.
>
> I clicked the Password Reset button and it indicated that instructions 
> would be emailed to me, but nothing has been received.
>
> -Scott,? K4KDR
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:50 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
> system. There is no need to take any action.
>
> We apologize for any inconvenience.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> Executive Vice President
> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
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From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp  Tue May 29 20:22:24 2018
From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 05:22:24 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Executable "Dslwp_rx_rtl" with GNURadio for Windows
Message-ID: <F6CE62440B5A4459A797722E65EE0E1E@je9pel>



http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/dslwpwin.htm

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita



From kl0s at cox.net  Tue May 29 20:16:48 2018
From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:16:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <sKsY1x03M4F0Vt701KstHJ>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<sKsY1x03M4F0Vt701KstHJ>
Message-ID: <18628238-3AFD-4570-8F88-2CDB9B808F2D@cox.net>

Ditto here?

> On May 29, 2018, at 3:52 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> 
> You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
> doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
> to take some kind of action. Recommendation? 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
> On 2018-05-29 14:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> 
>> Good afternoon,
>> 
>> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
>> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
>> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
>> system. There is no need to take any action.
>> 
>> We apologize for any inconvenience.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Executive Vice President
>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
>> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From wa7dxz at aol.com  Tue May 29 20:59:50 2018
From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 13:59:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
Message-ID: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>

I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

From vlfiscus at mcn.net  Tue May 29 21:33:03 2018
From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 15:33:03 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <897de705-743e-9eac-7dfc-0a5af8118e67@ab9v.us>
References: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>

And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
(ie. formatting)

As seen below:

At 03:38 PM 5/29/2018 -0400, Mike Cox <mike at ab9v.us> wrote:
>Me too, No reply! Mike, AB9V On 5/29/2018 15:26 PM, Scott wrote: > Thanks 
>for the info, Paul! > > As a check, I tried to log in and my current 
>password was not accepted. > > I clicked the Password Reset button and it 
>indicated that instructions > would be emailed to me, but nothing has been 
>received. > > -Scott,?  K4KDR > > > > 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------  
> > > > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer > Sent: Tuesday, May 
>29, 2018 2:50 PM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT 
>Website > > Good afternoon, > > Many of you have received an email stating 
>that your AMSAT website > password had been changed. These emails were 
>automatically generated > during the final merge of our old membership 
>database into our new > system. There is no need to take any action. > > 
>We apologize for any inconvenience. > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > 
>Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > 
>_______________________________________________ > Sent via 
>AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all 
>interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions 
>expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the 
>official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to 
>support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: 
>http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 
>_______________________________________________ Sent via 
>AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all 
>interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions 
>expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
>views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur 
>satellite program! Subscription settings: 
>http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb </x-flowed>


From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Tue May 29 21:17:02 2018
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 17:17:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
Message-ID: <c2fc22003a9ee158e267d883e19919d6.squirrel@alum.wpi.edu>

>You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
>doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
>to take some kind of action. Recommendation?

Presently I am working with our contractor to understand what happened and
why it was not detected in testing, and develop appropriate actions for
recovery.   If website users need to do anything, we will let you know.

de KM1P Joe


From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue May 29 21:27:12 2018
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:27:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>

On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
> re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
> (ie. formatting)

Hello Vince,

This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).

> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
 <...>
> TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTggMTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
> b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIFBhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
> IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
> Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0IGluZGljYXRl

This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
and laid out on your screen by your email program.

Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
1.7.1 (2016-10-04).

Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
interface? Does it look correct there?

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue May 29 21:49:25 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 17:49:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
In-Reply-To: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPJe3CUR8_cddLEhV4-_bOiTVzMr4HkfP-6Fhsr8Mszjg@mail.gmail.com>

What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?

This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac, Linux,
and one web recommendation at the bottom:

http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites

If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
the wiki

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
> follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
> rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue May 29 23:30:33 2018
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:30:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl><CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com><d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl><0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl><ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com><CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com><CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com><C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com><c73e52613980e444e3b8e714ae3a671c.squirrel@webmail.plus.net><6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>
	<5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@CSI9020>

Hi Jean Marc.

I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While several of 
the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band downlinks, I'm not 
aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the first day as the sats left 
Earth.

In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry 
(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any confirmation 
that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- JT4).

-Scott,  K4KDR


=======================================================

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jean Marc Momple
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

Dear All,

May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.

Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so far?

I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)




> On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>
> In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
> LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
> This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published
> a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>> Michael
>>
>> I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for a
>> satellite orbiting the moon.
>>
>> 1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise (+ve
>> Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>
>> 2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>> changing in comparison).
>>
>> 3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>
>> 1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or Moonsked. 
>> I
>> can't help with 3.
>>
>> Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~ +3
>> to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>
>> With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate Doppler
>> shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift change when
>> probes were captured by the target planet was quite interesting (a slowly
>> changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Charlie G3WDG
>>
>>  > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the 
>> moon
>>> orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that there
>>> would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate for 
>>> the
>>> speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower speed 
>>> than
>>> a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the
>>> 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour range
>>> orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon 
>>> could
>>> be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the whole
>>> time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon
>>> satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear
>>> the experts chime in on this.
>>>
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon 
>>> :-)
>>> Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
>>> you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
>>> knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>
>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something
>>>> with
>>>> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a
>>>> rotator
>>>> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
>>>> -Jordan
>>>> KF5COQ
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>> No further details yet.
>>>>> Nico,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
>>>>> signals?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Zach
>>>>> N0ZGO 


From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Tue May 29 23:55:53 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:55:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKPJe3CUR8_cddLEhV4-_bOiTVzMr4HkfP-6Fhsr8Mszjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
	<CALn0fKPJe3CUR8_cddLEhV4-_bOiTVzMr4HkfP-6Fhsr8Mszjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8M5VEFQAShXA0EjsgfNZsSRRg8f0AFwx09vB9qgiDnFmw@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting that GPredict is not listed under Windows...

73, Don KB2YSI

On Tue, May 29, 2018, 17:50 John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
>
> This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac, Linux,
> and one web recommendation at the bottom:
>
> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>
> If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
> the wiki
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
> > follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
> > rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed May 30 00:06:33 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:06:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8M5VEFQAShXA0EjsgfNZsSRRg8f0AFwx09vB9qgiDnFmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
	<CALn0fKPJe3CUR8_cddLEhV4-_bOiTVzMr4HkfP-6Fhsr8Mszjg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8M5VEFQAShXA0EjsgfNZsSRRg8f0AFwx09vB9qgiDnFmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO70DmBhVqPWP_s1u7d0Sm_CDU6Y=jpPJ-OYaHofhV2Jg@mail.gmail.com>

When I added gpredict to the wiki I was aware it worked in Windows but the
official site had no mention of it on their download page. At the time I
think I searched for Gpredict and Windows and probably saw the Sourceforge
page with Windows builds but I wasn't sure if it was official and I was in
a rush to publish so I just left it in the Linux section and didn't do
anything else.

I now see the official website mentions windows in the header. I will add
it under Windows too but perhaps the Sourceforge link should be added to
the official website's download page.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Tue, May 29, 2018, 19:56 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting that GPredict is not listed under Windows...
>
> 73, Don KB2YSI
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 17:50 John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
>>
>> This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac,
>> Linux,
>> and one web recommendation at the bottom:
>>
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>
>> If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
>> the wiki
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
>> > follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
>> > rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Wed May 30 00:14:24 2018
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:14:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKO70DmBhVqPWP_s1u7d0Sm_CDU6Y=jpPJ-OYaHofhV2Jg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
	<CALn0fKPJe3CUR8_cddLEhV4-_bOiTVzMr4HkfP-6Fhsr8Mszjg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8M5VEFQAShXA0EjsgfNZsSRRg8f0AFwx09vB9qgiDnFmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKO70DmBhVqPWP_s1u7d0Sm_CDU6Y=jpPJ-OYaHofhV2Jg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8MAraxnMvmkXFThENxoq3NBqcsURHFa2kkHtDhG9AynsA@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome John!

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> When I added gpredict to the wiki I was aware it worked in Windows but the
> official site had no mention of it on their download page. At the time I
> think I searched for Gpredict and Windows and probably saw the Sourceforge
> page with Windows builds but I wasn't sure if it was official and I was in a
> rush to publish so I just left it in the Linux section and didn't do
> anything else.
>
> I now see the official website mentions windows in the header. I will add it
> under Windows too but perhaps the Sourceforge link should be added to the
> official website's download page.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 19:56 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting that GPredict is not listed under Windows...
>>
>> 73, Don KB2YSI
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 17:50 John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
>>>
>>> This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac,
>>> Linux,
>>> and one web recommendation at the bottom:
>>>
>>> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
>>> the wiki
>>>
>>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
>>> > follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
>>> > rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> > Opinions
>>> > expressed
>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> > of
>>> > AMSAT-NA.
>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> > program!
>>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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-- 
73, Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi

From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Tue May 29 21:53:05 2018
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:53:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
In-Reply-To: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <20180529205957.BC7411E6D8@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnCKVxZ9hXHaf1HWbBGwh7OK6kKw6tSW=VDbngciqKgFsA@mail.gmail.com>

You didn?t specify a platform. For Windows, this little free download works
well:
http://f6dqm.free.fr/soft/satex/en/satexplorer.htm

For iPhone see:
https://amsat-uk.org/2013/07/24/free-ham-radio-satellite-tracking-app-for-ios/


On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 16:00 wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
> follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
> rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
--
Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 30 00:11:03 2018
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 00:11:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Prescott AZ hamfest,
 1-2 June 2018 (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
In-Reply-To: <mailman.273.1527628627.5850.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.273.1527628627.5850.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1873431478.2573172.1527639063397@mail.yahoo.com>

 
That sounds exciting, would you be on SSB birds too?
Thanks & 73!UmeshK6VUG

---------------------------------------------------------------
  Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 04:06:59 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Prescott AZ hamfest, 1-2 June 2018
Message-ID:
??? <CAN6TEUe+GW-hECcdEkJRQQaz9uMkUEgDGjHkAVssLYWVAmSaQQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT booth at the Prescott Hamfest, which is also serving
as the 2018 ARRL Arizona State Convention, this Friday and Saturday (1-2
June 2018). 

<snip>

Thanks in advance, and 73!


Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK


  

From maccody at att.net  Wed May 30 00:52:51 2018
From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:52:51 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <18628238-3AFD-4570-8F88-2CDB9B808F2D@cox.net>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<sKsY1x03M4F0Vt701KstHJ> <18628238-3AFD-4570-8F88-2CDB9B808F2D@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4e0bf17d-6ac4-d485-7688-e7e2844de16c@att.net>

I am encountering the same issue.

Mac AE5PH

On 05/29/2018 03:16 PM, Dino Papas wrote:
> Ditto here?
>
>> On May 29, 2018, at 3:52 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
>>
>> You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
>> doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
>> to take some kind of action. Recommendation?
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>>
>> On 2018-05-29 14:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>>
>>> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
>>> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
>>> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
>>> system. There is no need to take any action.
>>>
>>> We apologize for any inconvenience.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>>> Executive Vice President
>>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
>>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



From va7kbm at outlook.com  Tue May 29 23:49:50 2018
From: va7kbm at outlook.com (Ken M)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 23:49:50 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>
References: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>,
	<ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello all,

These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum that can be organized by topic.

73 Ken VA7KBM

On May 29, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com<mailto:zmetzing at pobox.com>> wrote:

On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
(ie. formatting)

Hello Vince,

This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
<...>
TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTggMTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIFBhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0IGluZGljYXRl

This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
and laid out on your screen by your email program.

Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
1.7.1 (2016-10-04).

Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
interface? Does it look correct there?

--- Zach
N0ZGO

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org<mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed May 30 02:30:00 2018
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 22:30:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>
	<ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>
	<CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKP1rATZDh0DSiiPgTnEyULQemJPVwYPfa815-Qw+uwm_Q@mail.gmail.com>

I don't mind sticking with the email list. We have web forums if you need
to do fancy formatting:

https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/satellite-and-space-communications.69/

I believe recently someone had trouble formatting something here so they
posted it there and linked to it from here. It happens so infrequently I
don't think it's worth the change.

I have amsat-bb go straight to my inbox unfiltered because I like to stay
up on AMSAT activities. I also have notifications on the QRZ satellite
forum, but I have to leave my email app on my phone to do anything with it,
and the web interface isn't great on mobile IIRC. Email is simple and easy.

They each have their merits.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style
> AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum
> that can be organized by topic.
>
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
>
> On May 29, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com<mailto:zme
> tzing at pobox.com>> wrote:
>
> On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
> re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
> (ie. formatting)
>
> Hello Vince,
>
> This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
> client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
> Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).
>
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> <...>
> TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTgg
> MTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
> b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIF
> BhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
> IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMg
> bm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
> Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0
> IGluZGljYXRl
>
> This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
> and laid out on your screen by your email program.
>
> Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
> 1.7.1 (2016-10-04).
>
> Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
> interface? Does it look correct there?
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org<mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes
> this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From dibor at iname.com  Wed May 30 08:35:38 2018
From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 08:35:38 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@csi9020>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
	<CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com>
	<c73e52613980e444e3b8e714ae3a671c.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>
	<6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>
	<5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>
	<4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@csi9020>
Message-ID: <em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>

Hello.
Have problem with running Live CD.
Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but 
ALL ports is NOT connected!
RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some message 
about "File is not find or EOF ....."

What I did wrong?

de 4z5cp.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Hi Jean Marc.
>
>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While 
>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band 
>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the 
>first day as the sats left Earth.
>
>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry 
>(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any 
>confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- JT4).
>
>-Scott,  K4KDR
>
>
>=======================================================
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>To: AMSAT BB
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Dear All,
>
>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>
>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so 
>far?
>
>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>
>73
>
>
>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>
>
>
>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published
>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>
>>73,
>>Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for 
>>>a
>>>satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>
>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise 
>>>(+ve
>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>
>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>>>changing in comparison).
>>>
>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>
>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or 
>>>Moonsked. I
>>>can't help with 3.
>>>
>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~ 
>>>+3
>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>
>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate 
>>>Doppler
>>>shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift change 
>>>when
>>>probes were captured by the target planet was quite interesting (a 
>>>slowly
>>>changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>
>>>73
>>>
>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>
>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the 
>>>moon
>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that 
>>>>there
>>>>would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate 
>>>>for the
>>>>speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower 
>>>>speed than
>>>>a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the
>>>>17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour 
>>>>range
>>>>orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon 
>>>>could
>>>>be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the 
>>>>whole
>>>>time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based 
>>>>upon
>>>>satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to 
>>>>hear
>>>>the experts chime in on this.
>>>>
>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the 
>>>>moon :-)
>>>>Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to 
>>>>earth,
>>>>you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
>>>>knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>
>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt 
>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule 
>>>>>something
>>>>>with
>>>>>someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a
>>>>>rotator
>>>>>to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the 
>>>>>>downlink
>>>>>>signals?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>N0ZGO
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>program!
>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From larry.howell.47 at gmail.com  Wed May 30 02:48:04 2018
From: larry.howell.47 at gmail.com (Larry Howell)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 22:48:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKP1rATZDh0DSiiPgTnEyULQemJPVwYPfa815-Qw+uwm_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>
	<ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>
	<CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CALn0fKP1rATZDh0DSiiPgTnEyULQemJPVwYPfa815-Qw+uwm_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMiRMkKJYunWHmoGbGPSUfqLn=Va44jH8fiP_pd+6e98HJjpQw@mail.gmail.com>

Both an email list and a forum are useful to many of us who have a
broadband Internet connection.  However, I have friends only 40 miles away
in rural areas that can't use a web-based forum because they have limited
bandwidth DSL or dial-up connections.  Web-based applications are too slow
to update to be of any use to them.  If the email goes away, they're
effectively cut off.

Larry AC8YE

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:30 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't mind sticking with the email list. We have web forums if you need
> to do fancy formatting:
>
> https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/satellite-and-
> space-communications.69/
>
> I believe recently someone had trouble formatting something here so they
> posted it there and linked to it from here. It happens so infrequently I
> don't think it's worth the change.
>
> I have amsat-bb go straight to my inbox unfiltered because I like to stay
> up on AMSAT activities. I also have notifications on the QRZ satellite
> forum, but I have to leave my email app on my phone to do anything with it,
> and the web interface isn't great on mobile IIRC. Email is simple and easy.
>
> They each have their merits.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style
> > AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum
> > that can be organized by topic.
> >
> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > On May 29, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com<mailto:
> zme
> > tzing at pobox.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> > And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
> > re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
> > (ie. formatting)
> >
> > Hello Vince,
> >
> > This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
> > client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
> > Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).
> >
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> > <...>
> > TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTgg
> > MTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
> > b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIF
> > BhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
> > IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMg
> > bm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
> > Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0
> > IGluZGljYXRl
> >
> > This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
> > and laid out on your screen by your email program.
> >
> > Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
> > 1.7.1 (2016-10-04).
> >
> > Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
> > interface? Does it look correct there?
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org<mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes
> > this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From john at amber.org.uk  Wed May 30 10:28:20 2018
From: john at amber.org.uk (John)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 11:28:20 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <CAMiRMkKJYunWHmoGbGPSUfqLn=Va44jH8fiP_pd+6e98HJjpQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>	<ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>	<CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>	<CALn0fKP1rATZDh0DSiiPgTnEyULQemJPVwYPfa815-Qw+uwm_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkKJYunWHmoGbGPSUfqLn=Va44jH8fiP_pd+6e98HJjpQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01db01d3f800$ee732b90$cb5982b0$@amber.org.uk>

To further add to this point, many of us do not have time to constantly
refresh and browse a web forum, whereas an e-mail list effectively pushes
each update to you one at a time, allowing a much easier use format.

I stopped using forums years ago, but still read e-mail reflectors as they
come in with all my other e-mail in one useful place.

73,

John (XLX)

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Larry Howell
Sent: 30 May 2018 03:48
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website

Both an email list and a forum are useful to many of us who have a broadband
Internet connection.  However, I have friends only 40 miles away in rural
areas that can't use a web-based forum because they have limited bandwidth
DSL or dial-up connections.  Web-based applications are too slow to update
to be of any use to them.  If the email goes away, they're effectively cut
off.

Larry AC8YE

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:30 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't mind sticking with the email list. We have web forums if you 
> need to do fancy formatting:
>
> https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/satellite-and-
> space-communications.69/
>
> I believe recently someone had trouble formatting something here so 
> they posted it there and linked to it from here. It happens so 
> infrequently I don't think it's worth the change.
>
> I have amsat-bb go straight to my inbox unfiltered because I like to 
> stay up on AMSAT activities. I also have notifications on the QRZ 
> satellite forum, but I have to leave my email app on my phone to do 
> anything with it, and the web interface isn't great on mobile IIRC. Email
is simple and easy.
>
> They each have their merits.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Ken M <va7kbm at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current 
> > old-style AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern 
> > web-based forum that can be organized by topic.
> >
> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > On May 29, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com<mailto:
> zme
> > tzing at pobox.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> > And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another 
> > re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
> > (ie. formatting)
> >
> > Hello Vince,
> >
> > This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email 
> > client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by 
> > Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).
> >
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> > <...>
> > TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTgg
> > MTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
> > b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIF
> > BhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
> > IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMg
> > bm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
> > Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0
> > IGluZGljYXRl
> >
> > This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your 
> > end and laid out on your screen by your email program.
> >
> > Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and 
> > Mutt
> > 1.7.1 (2016-10-04).
> >
> > Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail 
> > interface? Does it look correct there?
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org<mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA 
> > makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide 
> > without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
> > views of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
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> > expressed
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> > views of AMSAT-NA.
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> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From skristof at etczone.com  Wed May 30 11:16:21 2018
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 07:16:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <a75d337e25d708312d217be174efbf18@etczone.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<a75d337e25d708312d217be174efbf18@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <d6ddb96c0afdbfb127b80f80d45a5474@etczone.com>

We got off on a tangent about carriage returns, etc.  

I'm still wondering if anyone is working the problem with passwords at
the AMSAT store.  

Steve AI9IN

On 2018-05-29 15:52, skristof at etczone.com wrote:

> You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
> doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
> to take some kind of action. Recommendation? 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
> On 2018-05-29 14:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> 
>> Good afternoon,
>> 
>> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
>> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
>> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
>> system. There is no need to take any action.
>> 
>> We apologize for any inconvenience.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Executive Vice President
>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
>> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed May 30 11:35:34 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 06:35:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <d6ddb96c0afdbfb127b80f80d45a5474@etczone.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>	<a75d337e25d708312d217be174efbf18@etczone.com>
	<d6ddb96c0afdbfb127b80f80d45a5474@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <000001d3f80a$531f54c0$f95dfe40$@gmail.com>

Password reset was briefly blocked, but has been working since last evening.
I reset mine this morning with no problem.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
<skristof at etczone.com
<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 06:16 AM
<To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>; AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
<
<We got off on a tangent about carriage returns, etc.
<
<I'm still wondering if anyone is working the problem with passwords at
<the AMSAT store.
<
<Steve AI9IN
<
<On 2018-05-29 15:52, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
<
<> You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
<> doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
<> to take some kind of action. Recommendation?
<>
<> Steve AI9IN
<>
<> On 2018-05-29 14:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
<>
<>> Good afternoon,
<>>
<>> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
<>> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
<>> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
<>> system. There is no need to take any action.
<>>
<>> We apologize for any inconvenience.
<>>
<>> 73,
<>>
<>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
<>> Executive Vice President
<>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
<>> _______________________________________________
<> _______________________________________________
<> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
<available
<> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<Opinions expressed
<> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
<AMSAT-NA.
<> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<program!
<> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
<expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-
<NA.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<program!
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From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Wed May 30 11:56:51 2018
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 13:56:51 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>	<CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>	<C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com>	<c73e52613980e444e3b8e714ae3a671c.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>	<6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>	<5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>	<4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@csi9020>
	<em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>
Message-ID: <004e01d3f80d$4cbd1600$e6374200$@de>

Hi Dimitry,

TLE are useles in lunar orbit.

You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.

https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp-b_201
80529.txt

(or later files)

73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Dimitry
Borzenko
Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
An: AMSAT BB
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

Hello.
Have problem with running Live CD.
Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but ALL
ports is NOT connected!
RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some message
about "File is not find or EOF ....."

What I did wrong?

de 4z5cp.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Hi Jean Marc.
>
>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While 
>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band 
>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the 
>first day as the sats left Earth.
>
>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry 
>(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any 
>confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- JT4).
>
>-Scott,  K4KDR
>
>
>=======================================================
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>To: AMSAT BB
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Dear All,
>
>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>
>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so 
>far?
>
>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>
>73
>
>
>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>
>
>
>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of 
>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published a 
>>couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>
>>73,
>>Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for 
>>>a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>
>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise 
>>>(+ve
>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>
>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly 
>>>changing in comparison).
>>>
>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>
>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or 
>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>
>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~
>>>+3
>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>
>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate 
>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift 
>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite 
>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>
>>>73
>>>
>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>
>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since 
>>> > the
>>>moon
>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that 
>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you 
>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also 
>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling at. 
>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are 
>>>>in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance that 
>>>>the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis where it is 
>>>>in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point there 
>>>>would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite velocity only 
>>>>the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the experts chime 
>>>>in on this.
>>>>
>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the 
>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and 
>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for 
>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>
>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt 
>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule 
>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work 
>>>>>with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large enough 
>>>>>yagi that is.
>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a 
>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the 
>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>N0ZGO
>
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>of AMSAT-NA.
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From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Wed May 30 12:18:55 2018
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 08:18:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <d6ddb96c0afdbfb127b80f80d45a5474@etczone.com>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<a75d337e25d708312d217be174efbf18@etczone.com>
	<d6ddb96c0afdbfb127b80f80d45a5474@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <b049c8c0-351c-42d0-cfa8-673424b6dce3@alum.wpi.edu>



On 5/30/2018 7:16 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> We got off on a tangent about carriage returns, etc.  
>
> I'm still wondering if anyone is working the problem with passwords at
> the AMSAT store.  
>

Yes, Steve.? People are quite literally losing sleep over it.??

We are trying to figure out if we can restore passwords from backup
files without affecting anyone who has done a password reset in response
to yesterday's e-mails.

Should anyone have any urgent purchases to complete, send a note to
webmaster at amsat.org and we will work to get your order through manually.

de KM1P Joe

From dibor at iname.com  Wed May 30 12:57:40 2018
From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 12:57:40 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <004e01d3f80d$4cbd1600$e6374200$@de>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
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Hello Mike.
I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file (which 
folder?).

Regards.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Hi Dimitry,
>
>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>
>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>
>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp-b_201
>80529.txt
>
>(or later files)
>
>73 Mike
>DK3WN
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von 
>Dimitry
>Borzenko
>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
>An: AMSAT BB
>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Hello.
>Have problem with running Live CD.
>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but 
>ALL
>ports is NOT connected!
>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some 
>message
>about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>
>What I did wrong?
>
>de 4z5cp.
>
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>>Hi Jean Marc.
>>
>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While
>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band
>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the
>>first day as the sats left Earth.
>>
>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry
>>(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any
>>confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- 
>>JT4).
>>
>>-Scott,  K4KDR
>>
>>
>>=======================================================
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>>To: AMSAT BB
>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>
>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so
>>far?
>>
>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>
>>73
>>
>>
>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published 
>>>a
>>>couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Nico PA0DLO
>>>
>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift 
>>>>for
>>>>a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>
>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise
>>>>(+ve
>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>
>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>>>>changing in comparison).
>>>>
>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>
>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or
>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>
>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from 
>>>>~
>>>>+3
>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>
>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate
>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift
>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite
>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>
>>>>73
>>>>
>>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>>
>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since
>>>> > the
>>>>moon
>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that
>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you
>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also
>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling at.
>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites 
>>>>>are
>>>>>in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance that
>>>>>the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis where it 
>>>>>is
>>>>>in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point there
>>>>>would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite velocity 
>>>>>only
>>>>>the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the experts chime
>>>>>in on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the
>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and
>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for
>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt
>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule
>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work
>>>>>>with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large 
>>>>>>enough
>>>>>>yagi that is.
>>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger 
>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the
>>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>>N0ZGO
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>of AMSAT-NA.
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>>program!
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed May 30 13:02:21 2018
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 08:02:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <004e01d3f80d$4cbd1600$e6374200$@de>
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Message-ID: <51453fb6-3ecc-fff3-03b3-76a1893b5873@mwt.net>

I lost the specifications of their Lunar orbits.

I remember they were highly elliptical orbits.

But even with the highly variable distance from the Moon, From our 
viewpoint here on Earth, How far away from the Moon does it actually 
get? 1/2 a degree? 1 degree? Or what?

In other words with typical Amateur antennas beam widths, why not simply 
use tracking data for the Moon itself?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 5/30/2018 6:56 AM, Mike Rupprecht wrote:
> Hi Dimitry,
>
> TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>
> You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>
> https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp-b_201
> 80529.txt
>
> (or later files)
>
> 73 Mike
> DK3WN
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Dimitry
> Borzenko
> Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
> An: AMSAT BB
> Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
> Hello.
> Have problem with running Live CD.
> Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
> Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but ALL
> ports is NOT connected!
> RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
> Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some message
> about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>
> What I did wrong?
>
> de 4z5cp.
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
> To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>> Hi Jean Marc.
>>
>> I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While
>> several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band
>> downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the
>> first day as the sats left Earth.
>>
>> In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry
>> (using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any
>> confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- JT4).
>>
>> -Scott,  K4KDR
>>
>>
>> =======================================================
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>> To: AMSAT BB
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>
>> Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so
>> far?
>>
>> I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
>>> LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>> This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published a
>>> couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Nico PA0DLO
>>>
>>> On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for
>>>> a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise
>>>> (+ve
>>>> Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>>>> changing in comparison).
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>
>>>> 1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or
>>>> Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>
>>>> Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~
>>>> +3
>>>> to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>
>>>> With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate
>>>> Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift
>>>> change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite
>>>> interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Charlie G3WDG
>>>>
>>>>> I find that an interesting question. One would think that since
>>>>> the
>>>> moon
>>>>> orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that
>>>>> there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you
>>>>> compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also
>>>>> at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling at.
>>>>> Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are
>>>>> in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance that
>>>>> the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis where it is
>>>>> in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point there
>>>>> would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite velocity only
>>>>> the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the experts chime
>>>>> in on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Vivona
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the
>>>>> moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and
>>>>> position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for
>>>>> doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt
>>>>>> <jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule
>>>>>> something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work
>>>>>> with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large enough
>>>>>> yagi that is.
>>>>>> -Jordan
>>>>>> KF5COQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>> No further details yet.
>>>>>>> Nico,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the
>>>>>>> downlink signals?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Zach
>>>>>>> N0ZGO
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Wed May 30 13:54:07 2018
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 08:54:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
Message-ID: <04ae01d3f81d$ae7fafa0$0b7f0ee0$@bellsouth.net>

Hello Amsat-ers

 

I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32
v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on
the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no
movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions??

 

 

 

Nick k6qxj


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed May 30 14:18:50 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 09:18:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
Message-ID: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com>

Same here, beginning a week or so back.  Investigating, but so far nothing
determined.  Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in the
recent updates.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


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<Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
<
<Hello Amsat-ers
<
<
<
<I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32
<v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on
<the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no
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<
<
<
<
<
<
<
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Wed May 30 14:23:36 2018
From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 07:23:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020> 
	<CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com> 
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020> 
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>,
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"Ken M" <va7kbm at ... said:

>  These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum that can be organized by topic.

Please NO!

My primary reason is that I receive E-Mails from around 60 E-Mail lists.  Some are quite active and some go weeks without any messages.  I can guarantee that I am NOT going to go to 60 different forums several times per day to see if there is something interesting to read.  E-Mail lists may not be the best solution, but they don't require massive effort to go get the information.  With some E-Mail sorting in your E-Mail client, it is pretty easy to organize messages from an E-Mail list.

73
-----
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org



From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Wed May 30 14:23:48 2018
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 16:23:48 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <emd6a0502d-6428-4e7e-9801-bf6a92d789ba@int-station>
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	<5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>
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	<em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>
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Dimitry,

the default directory is /home/lilac/lilacsat/gr-dslwp/examples/
Edit the correct path in the Program Tracking CC block.

73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com] 
Gesendet: 30 May 2018 14:58
An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

Hello Mike.
I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file (which folder?).

Regards.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Hi Dimitry,
>
>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>
>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>
>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp-
>b_201
>80529.txt
>
>(or later files)
>
>73 Mike
>DK3WN
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von 
>Dimitry Borzenko
>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
>An: AMSAT BB
>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Hello.
>Have problem with running Live CD.
>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but 
>ALL ports is NOT connected!
>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some 
>message about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>
>What I did wrong?
>
>de 4z5cp.
>
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>>Hi Jean Marc.
>>
>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While 
>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band 
>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the 
>>first day as the sats left Earth.
>>
>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry 
>>(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any 
>>confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- 
>>JT4).
>>
>>-Scott,  K4KDR
>>
>>
>>=======================================================
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>>To: AMSAT BB
>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>
>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so 
>>far?
>>
>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>
>>73
>>
>>
>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of 
>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published 
>>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Nico PA0DLO
>>>
>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift 
>>>>for a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>
>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise 
>>>>(+ve
>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>
>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly 
>>>>changing in comparison).
>>>>
>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>
>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or 
>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>
>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from 
>>>>~
>>>>+3
>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>
>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate 
>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift 
>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite 
>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>
>>>>73
>>>>
>>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>>
>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since 
>>>> > the
>>>>moon
>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that 
>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you 
>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also 
>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling at.
>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites 
>>>>>are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance 
>>>>>that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis where 
>>>>>it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point 
>>>>>there would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite 
>>>>>velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the 
>>>>>experts chime in on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the 
>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and 
>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for 
>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt 
>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule 
>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work 
>>>>>>with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large 
>>>>>>enough yagi that is.
>>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger 
>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a 
>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the 
>>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>>N0ZGO
>>
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From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Wed May 30 14:28:29 2018
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 10:28:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
In-Reply-To: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABsMmtQFZisMPa6mRAv3trarQ3FvWRw5zCntgaXJtQy1U0bZMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Alan and Nick,

If you think it may be update related try the "Run as Administrator" option
(right click on the desk top icon then <Run as Administrator>.  This has
been solving a number of issues for me lately, all related to Windows
security changes to be in compliance with the new EU privacy laws.  It is a
long shot but it costs you nothing and if it doesn't fix the problem at
least you have discovered one easy thing to do that didn't work.

John K4SQC

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:

> Same here, beginning a week or so back.  Investigating, but so far nothing
> determined.  Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in the
> recent updates.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nick
> <Pugh
> <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM
> <To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
> <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
> <
> <Hello Amsat-ers
> <
> <
> <
> <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32
> <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on
> <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no
> <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions??
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <Nick k6qxj
> <
> <_______________________________________________
> <Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> <expressed
> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-
> <NA.
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> <program!
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>
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed May 30 14:28:32 2018
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 09:28:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <1527690216.166524990@apps.rackspace.com>
References: <26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>
	<ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>
	<CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.co
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If this went to a web page forum, I'm gone.

Most E Mail programs allow you to organize messages also.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 5/30/2018 9:23 AM, jim at k6ccc.org wrote:
> "Ken M" <va7kbm at ... said:
>
>>   These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum that can be organized by topic.
> Please NO!
>
> My primary reason is that I receive E-Mails from around 60 E-Mail lists.  Some are quite active and some go weeks without any messages.  I can guarantee that I am NOT going to go to 60 different forums several times per day to see if there is something interesting to read.  E-Mail lists may not be the best solution, but they don't require massive effort to go get the information.  With some E-Mail sorting in your E-Mail client, it is pretty easy to organize messages from an E-Mail list.
>
> 73
> -----
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim at k6ccc.org
>
>
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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed May 30 14:41:06 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 09:41:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
In-Reply-To: <CABsMmtQFZisMPa6mRAv3trarQ3FvWRw5zCntgaXJtQy1U0bZMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com>
	<CABsMmtQFZisMPa6mRAv3trarQ3FvWRw5zCntgaXJtQy1U0bZMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000201d3f824$3e6cdfb0$bb469f10$@gmail.com>

John,

Good suggestion, but "unfortunately" I already run it as an administrator.  Bad security practice, but as you say, it can eliminate odd problems.

The Meltdown/Spectre patch has caused a noticeable performance hit on my machine, even though it is very capable.  I am wondering if it may be causing a timing problem?  Fortunately the problem only occurs every 2-3 days, but is annoying for unattended operation.  SatPC32/Labjack have been running flawlessly for literally years.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA






<-----Original Message-----
<From: John Kludt [mailto:johnnykludt at gmail.com]
<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 09:28 AM
<To: Alan (AMSAT) <APBIDDLE at mailaps.org>
<Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
<
<Alan and Nick,
<
<If you think it may be update related try the "Run as Administrator" option
<(right click on the desk top icon then <Run as Administrator>.  This has been
<solving a number of issues for me lately, all related to Windows security
<changes to be in compliance with the new EU privacy laws.  It is a long shot but
<it costs you nothing and if it doesn't fix the problem at least you have
<discovered one easy thing to do that didn't work.
<
<John K4SQC
<
<On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com
<<mailto:wa4sca at gmail.com> > wrote:
<
<
<	Same here, beginning a week or so back.  Investigating, but so far
<nothing
<	determined.  Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was
<something in the
<	recent updates.
<
<	73,
<
<	Alan
<	WA4SCA
<
<
<	<-----Original Message-----
<	<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org
<<mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> ] On Behalf Of Nick
<	<Pugh
<	<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM
<	<To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-
<BB at amsat.org> >
<	<Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
<	<
<	<Hello Amsat-ers
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under
<Satpc32
<	<v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED
<on
<	<the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no
<	<movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal.
<Suggestions??
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<Nick k6qxj
<	<
<	<_______________________________________________
<	<Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> .
<AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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<	<expressed
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<	AMSAT-
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From dibor at iname.com  Wed May 30 15:10:29 2018
From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 15:10:29 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <005e01d3f821$d3f20860$7bd61920$@de>
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	<4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@csi9020>
	<em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>
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Hi Mike.
Understood.
Program Tracking CC block request exact file, path is not enough.
I should to change every day/ two days Program Tracking CC setting for 
each demodulator?
Or I do not understand something?

Regards.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 17:23:48
Subject: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Dimitry,
>
>the default directory is /home/lilac/lilacsat/gr-dslwp/examples/
>Edit the correct path in the Program Tracking CC block.
>
>73 Mike
>DK3WN
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 14:58
>An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
>Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Hello Mike.
>I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file 
>(which folder?).
>
>Regards.
>
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
>Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>>Hi Dimitry,
>>
>>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>>
>>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>>
>>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp-
>>b_201
>>80529.txt
>>
>>(or later files)
>>
>>73 Mike
>>DK3WN
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von
>>Dimitry Borzenko
>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
>>An: AMSAT BB
>>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>Hello.
>>Have problem with running Live CD.
>>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
>>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but
>>ALL ports is NOT connected!
>>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
>>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some
>>message about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>>
>>What I did wrong?
>>
>>de 4z5cp.
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
>>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>>Hi Jean Marc.
>>>
>>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While
>>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band
>>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the
>>>first day as the sats left Earth.
>>>
>>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm 
>>>telemetry
>>>(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any
>>>confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or-
>>>JT4).
>>>
>>>-Scott,  K4KDR
>>>
>>>
>>>=======================================================
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>>>To: AMSAT BB
>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>
>>>Dear All,
>>>
>>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>>
>>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so
>>>far?
>>>
>>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>>
>>>73
>>>
>>>
>>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
>>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published
>>>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>>
>>>>73,
>>>>Nico PA0DLO
>>>>
>>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift
>>>>>for a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>>
>>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise
>>>>>(+ve
>>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>>
>>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>>>>>changing in comparison).
>>>>>
>>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>>
>>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or
>>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>>
>>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from
>>>>>~
>>>>>+3
>>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>>
>>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate
>>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift
>>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite
>>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>>
>>>>>73
>>>>>
>>>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>>>
>>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since
>>>>> > the
>>>>>moon
>>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that
>>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you
>>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also
>>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling 
>>>>>>at.
>>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites
>>>>>>are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance
>>>>>>that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis 
>>>>>>where
>>>>>>it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point
>>>>>>there would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite
>>>>>>velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the
>>>>>>experts chime in on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the
>>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and
>>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for
>>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt
>>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule
>>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd 
>>>>>>>work
>>>>>>>with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large
>>>>>>>enough yagi that is.
>>>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger
>>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the
>>>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>>>N0ZGO
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>Opinions expressed
>>>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>of AMSAT-NA.
>>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>program!
>>>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>>the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>program!
>>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>


From dibor at iname.com  Wed May 30 15:16:54 2018
From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 15:16:54 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <em1a51faae-aa67-4b8d-966f-004c2be1956c@dibor>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
	<CAHD9BgCF=tmm8-g0gdnd2Jxh8vv3tDsmKRPDKxPF2ci1Ucv7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
	<CAHD9BgCt3c-9Dk2kYqST4vKtQG8d-Gujgko+g4TnG5yq8zvUNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com>
	<c73e52613980e444e3b8e714ae3a671c.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>
	<6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>
	<5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>
	<4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@csi9020>
	<em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>
	<004e01d3f80d$4cbd1600$e6374200$@de>
	<emd6a0502d-6428-4e7e-9801-bf6a92d789ba@int-station>
	<005e01d3f821$d3f20860$7bd61920$@de>
	<em1a51faae-aa67-4b8d-966f-004c2be1956c@dibor>
Message-ID: <em30869bf7-881e-4406-bb78-94cfd25abb1c@dibor>

Or set path to some file with chosen name and rename every new 
downloaded file and overwrite existed.

Regards.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Dimitry Borzenko" <dibor at iname.com>
To: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 18:10:29
Subject: Re: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Hi Mike.
>Understood.
>Program Tracking CC block request exact file, path is not enough.
>I should to change every day/ two days Program Tracking CC setting for 
>each demodulator?
>Or I do not understand something?
>
>Regards.
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: 30.05.2018 17:23:48
>Subject: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>>Dimitry,
>>
>>the default directory is /home/lilac/lilacsat/gr-dslwp/examples/
>>Edit the correct path in the Program Tracking CC block.
>>
>>73 Mike
>>DK3WN
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 14:58
>>An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
>>Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>Hello Mike.
>>I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file 
>>(which folder?).
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
>>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
>><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
>>Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>>Hi Dimitry,
>>>
>>>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>>>
>>>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>>>
>>>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp-
>>>b_201
>>>80529.txt
>>>
>>>(or later files)
>>>
>>>73 Mike
>>>DK3WN
>>>
>>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von
>>>Dimitry Borzenko
>>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
>>>An: AMSAT BB
>>>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>
>>>Hello.
>>>Have problem with running Live CD.
>>>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
>>>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but
>>>ALL ports is NOT connected!
>>>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
>>>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some
>>>message about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>>>
>>>What I did wrong?
>>>
>>>de 4z5cp.
>>>
>>>
>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>
>>>>Hi Jean Marc.
>>>>
>>>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While
>>>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band
>>>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the
>>>>first day as the sats left Earth.
>>>>
>>>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm 
>>>>telemetry
>>>>(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any
>>>>confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or-
>>>>JT4).
>>>>
>>>>-Scott,  K4KDR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>=======================================================
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>>>>To: AMSAT BB
>>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>>
>>>>Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so
>>>>far?
>>>>
>>>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>>>
>>>>73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
>>>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I 
>>>>>published
>>>>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>>>
>>>>>73,
>>>>>Nico PA0DLO
>>>>>
>>>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift
>>>>>>for a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise
>>>>>>(+ve
>>>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>>>>>>changing in comparison).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or
>>>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary 
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>~
>>>>>>+3
>>>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate
>>>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler 
>>>>>>shift
>>>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite
>>>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>73
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>moon
>>>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that
>>>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you
>>>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is 
>>>>>>>also
>>>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling 
>>>>>>>at.
>>>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites
>>>>>>>are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the 
>>>>>>>chance
>>>>>>>that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis 
>>>>>>>where
>>>>>>>it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that point
>>>>>>>there would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite
>>>>>>>velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear 
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>experts chime in on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the
>>>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and
>>>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for
>>>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt
>>>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule
>>>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd 
>>>>>>>>work
>>>>>>>>with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large
>>>>>>>>enough yagi that is.
>>>>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger
>>>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the
>>>>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>>>>N0ZGO
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum 
>>>>available
>>>>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>Opinions expressed
>>>>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
>>>>views
>>>>of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>program!
>>>>Subscription settings: 
>>>>http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>>>the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>program!
>>>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>


From steve at saner.net  Wed May 30 15:07:13 2018
From: steve at saner.net (Steve Saner)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 10:07:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
In-Reply-To: <01db01d3f800$ee732b90$cb5982b0$@amber.org.uk>
References: <CABzOSOp6Q6y7fRMi=JshfNAddkPNHV7v-1jAGFdN1WFgCPPTRQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<26C05F5419A64F8EA40B447C7CF7BBD2@CSI9020>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20180529152815.00c5a718@pop.earthlink.net>
	<ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@pobox.com>
	<CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@CO2PR01MB2071.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CALn0fKP1rATZDh0DSiiPgTnEyULQemJPVwYPfa815-Qw+uwm_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMiRMkKJYunWHmoGbGPSUfqLn=Va44jH8fiP_pd+6e98HJjpQw@mail.gmail.com>
	<01db01d3f800$ee732b90$cb5982b0$@amber.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1933e0f2-f630-c419-91c0-ee8cd3c5b97b@saner.net>

On 05/30/2018 05:28 AM, John wrote:
> To further add to this point, many of us do not have time to constantly
> refresh and browse a web forum, whereas an e-mail list effectively pushes
> each update to you one at a time, allowing a much easier use format.
> 
> I stopped using forums years ago, but still read e-mail reflectors as they
> come in with all my other e-mail in one useful place.


Yes, I agree. I do not see the appeal of forums at all. That said, there 
are some forum packages, Discourse being one that I am familiar with, 
that you can choose to work with in "Email Mode" such that any message 
posted to the forum will come to you in email, and if the system is set 
up to do it, you can reply to a post via email, and even start a new 
thread via email.

In other words, it can be a forum for those that like forums, and it can 
pretty much be an email list for those that like that. I'm on a couple 
groups that use Discourse and the email interface seems to work pretty well.

I would much prefer just sticking with mailman, myself, but if it has to 
change, there are ways of implementing a forum that don't totally suck.

Steve

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Saner <steve at saner.net> KD0IJP
Andover, Kansas USA

From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Wed May 30 15:46:13 2018
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 17:46:13 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <em1a51faae-aa67-4b8d-966f-004c2be1956c@dibor>
References: <6e7638f4-4fe5-9308-753c-d79c420f57dd@xs4all.nl>
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	<d0b6563a-5012-ad8c-9e6c-c6730765b8ee@xs4all.nl>
	<0e7a06c3-28df-0a01-63aa-9b36f2085fdb@xs4all.nl>
	<ac756443-f734-94ff-246c-eaace1f2eff2@pobox.com>
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	<CAKu8kHB5an0qU5YWYe8-8pjLKg-cA03e+XESc7fzw75s+pdcYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1D12C1C-1157-4792-AA3A-F977C0B560F4@yahoo.com>
	<c73e52613980e444e3b8e714ae3a671c.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>
	<6d4af4d5-835c-e78d-6ff3-65aabd8e3600@xs4all.nl>
	<5CE48471-006A-4A70-ACE9-717564578AAF@gmail.com>
	<4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@csi9020>
	<em9830f8da-4834-498c-8572-e1e51482e2c6@int-station>
	<004e01d3f80d$4cbd1600$e6374200$@de>
	<emd6a0502d-6428-4e7e-9801-bf6a92d789ba@int-station>
	<005e01d3f821$d3f20860$7bd61920$@de>
	<em1a51faae-aa67-4b8d-966f-004c2be1956c@dibor>
Message-ID: <007d01d3f82d$5769e1d0$063da570$@de>

Hi Dimitry,

of course - you need the full path + filename ...

Wei, BG2BHC is updating the files regularly. If you take a look into such a tracking file you see seven columns in each line. The first column contains the date and time in Unix timestamp format. The next 3 columns contain the position in ECEF coordinates followed by 3 columns which contain the velocity in ECEF coordinates. Based on the filename you can see how long this file can be used.

You will get this error message (File is not find or EOF .....)  if no valid information is found that match to the current time.

73 Mike
 
 
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com] 
Gesendet: 30 May 2018 17:10
An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

Hi Mike.
Understood.
Program Tracking CC block request exact file, path is not enough.
I should to change every day/ two days Program Tracking CC setting for each demodulator?
Or I do not understand something?

Regards.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 17:23:48
Subject: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Dimitry,
>
>the default directory is /home/lilac/lilacsat/gr-dslwp/examples/
>Edit the correct path in the Program Tracking CC block.
>
>73 Mike
>DK3WN
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 14:58
>An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
>Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Hello Mike.
>I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file 
>(which folder?).
>
>Regards.
>
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
>Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>>Hi Dimitry,
>>
>>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>>
>>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>>
>>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp
>>-
>>b_201
>>80529.txt
>>
>>(or later files)
>>
>>73 Mike
>>DK3WN
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von 
>>Dimitry Borzenko
>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
>>An: AMSAT BB
>>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>Hello.
>>Have problem with running Live CD.
>>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
>>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but 
>>ALL ports is NOT connected!
>>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
>>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some 
>>message about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>>
>>What I did wrong?
>>
>>de 4z5cp.
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
>>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>>Hi Jean Marc.
>>>
>>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While 
>>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band 
>>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the 
>>>first day as the sats left Earth.
>>>
>>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm 
>>>telemetry (using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard 
>>>any confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- 
>>>JT4).
>>>
>>>-Scott,  K4KDR
>>>
>>>
>>>=======================================================
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>>>To: AMSAT BB
>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>
>>>Dear All,
>>>
>>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>>
>>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so 
>>>far?
>>>
>>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>>
>>>73
>>>
>>>
>>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of 
>>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published 
>>>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>>
>>>>73,
>>>>Nico PA0DLO
>>>>
>>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift 
>>>>>for a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>>
>>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise 
>>>>>(+ve
>>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>>
>>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly 
>>>>>changing in comparison).
>>>>>
>>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>>
>>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or 
>>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>>
>>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from 
>>>>>~
>>>>>+3
>>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>>
>>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate 
>>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler shift 
>>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite 
>>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>>
>>>>>73
>>>>>
>>>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>>>
>>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since 
>>>>> > the
>>>>>moon
>>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that 
>>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you 
>>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is also 
>>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling 
>>>>>>at.
>>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites 
>>>>>>are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the chance 
>>>>>>that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis 
>>>>>>where it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that 
>>>>>>point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon satellite 
>>>>>>velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear the 
>>>>>>experts chime in on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the 
>>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and 
>>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for 
>>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt 
>>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule 
>>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd 
>>>>>>>work with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a large 
>>>>>>>enough yagi that is.
>>>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger 
>>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a 
>>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the 
>>>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>>>N0ZGO
>>>
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From dibor at iname.com  Wed May 30 16:04:02 2018
From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 16:04:02 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
In-Reply-To: <007d01d3f82d$5769e1d0$063da570$@de>
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Hi Mike.
I have pointing Program Tracking CC of all decoders to the 
program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt file
For me is more simple to change new downloaded file to 
"program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt" and overwrite existed then change path in 
the Program Tracking CC block of 2 or 4 decoders.

Thank you for the help!


------ Original Message ------
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 30.05.2018 18:46:13
Subject: AW: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction

>Hi Dimitry,
>
>of course - you need the full path + filename ...
>
>Wei, BG2BHC is updating the files regularly. If you take a look into 
>such a tracking file you see seven columns in each line. The first 
>column contains the date and time in Unix timestamp format. The next 3 
>columns contain the position in ECEF coordinates followed by 3 columns 
>which contain the velocity in ECEF coordinates. Based on the filename 
>you can see how long this file can be used.
>
>You will get this error message (File is not find or EOF .....)  if no 
>valid information is found that match to the current time.
>
>73 Mike
>
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 17:10
>An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
>Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>Hi Mike.
>Understood.
>Program Tracking CC block request exact file, path is not enough.
>I should to change every day/ two days Program Tracking CC setting for 
>each demodulator?
>Or I do not understand something?
>
>Regards.
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: 30.05.2018 17:23:48
>Subject: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
>>Dimitry,
>>
>>the default directory is /home/lilac/lilacsat/gr-dslwp/examples/
>>Edit the correct path in the Program Tracking CC block.
>>
>>73 Mike
>>DK3WN
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 14:58
>>An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
>>Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>Hello Mike.
>>I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file
>>(which folder?).
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
>>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
>><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
>>Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>
>>>Hi Dimitry,
>>>
>>>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
>>>
>>>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
>>>
>>>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp
>>>-
>>>b_201
>>>80529.txt
>>>
>>>(or later files)
>>>
>>>73 Mike
>>>DK3WN
>>>
>>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von
>>>Dimitry Borzenko
>>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
>>>An: AMSAT BB
>>>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>
>>>Hello.
>>>Have problem with running Live CD.
>>>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
>>>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but
>>>ALL ports is NOT connected!
>>>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
>>>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some
>>>message about "File is not find or EOF ....."
>>>
>>>What I did wrong?
>>>
>>>de 4z5cp.
>>>
>>>
>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>
>>>>Hi Jean Marc.
>>>>
>>>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While
>>>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band
>>>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the
>>>>first day as the sats left Earth.
>>>>
>>>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm
>>>>telemetry (using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard
>>>>any confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry 
>>>>-or-
>>>>JT4).
>>>>
>>>>-Scott,  K4KDR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>=======================================================
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
>>>>To: AMSAT BB
>>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>>>>
>>>>Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so
>>>>far?
>>>>
>>>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
>>>>
>>>>73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
>>>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
>>>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I 
>>>>>published
>>>>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>>>>>
>>>>>73,
>>>>>Nico PA0DLO
>>>>>
>>>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift
>>>>>>for a satellite orbiting the moon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise
>>>>>>(+ve
>>>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>>>>>>changing in comparison).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or
>>>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary 
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>~
>>>>>>+3
>>>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate
>>>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler 
>>>>>>shift
>>>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite
>>>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>73
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Charlie G3WDG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>moon
>>>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that
>>>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you
>>>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is 
>>>>>>>also
>>>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling
>>>>>>>at.
>>>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites
>>>>>>>are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the 
>>>>>>>chance
>>>>>>>that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis
>>>>>>>where it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that
>>>>>>>point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon 
>>>>>>>satellite
>>>>>>>velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear 
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>experts chime in on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Michael Vivona
>>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the
>>>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and
>>>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for
>>>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt
>>>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule
>>>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd
>>>>>>>>work with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a 
>>>>>>>>large
>>>>>>>>enough yagi that is.
>>>>>>>>-Jordan
>>>>>>>>KF5COQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger
>>>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
>>>>>>>>>Nico,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the
>>>>>>>>>downlink signals?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>73,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--- Zach
>>>>>>>>>N0ZGO
>>>>
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From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Wed May 30 16:06:09 2018
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 18:06:09 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
In-Reply-To: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000201d3f821$223c9040$66b5b0c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5B0ECBF1.3000403@t-online.de>

Hello Alan, Nick and others,
I didn't make any changes with  ServerLabjack. The file is unchanged 
since Dec. 12. 2012.  SatPC32 itself only outputs the target positions 
to ServerLabjack. Only this file then checks whether the rotors have 
reached the target positions.
Is there any  correlation between updating  the target positions by 
SatPC32 and stalling of the rotor?

I also use  Windows 7, 64-bit and  the Labjack U-12 with a KR-5600.  
Lately I used it for multiple satellite passes and  I just tested full 
360? turns of the az. rotor/ 90? turns of the el. rotor in both 
direction (entered target postions in menu "Rotor").   No issues so far.
73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 30.05.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Alan:
> Same here, beginning a week or so back.  Investigating, but so far nothing
> determined.  Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in the
> recent updates.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nick
> <Pugh
> <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM
> <To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
> <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
> <
> <Hello Amsat-ers
> <
> <
> <
> <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32
> <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on
> <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no
> <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions??
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <
> <Nick k6qxj
> <
> <_______________________________________________
> <Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> <expressed
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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed May 30 16:43:42 2018
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 11:43:42 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
In-Reply-To: <5B0ECBF1.3000403@t-online.de>
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Erich,

So far the stalls have occurred in the middle of the night.  One was showing
the elevation at 4 degrees, with the target at 0.  The Labjack server was
indicating a down command.  I closed and restarted SatPC32 and when I
selected Park, it dropped to 0 and the desired azimuth.  The second time was
an azimuth problem, with a large difference between the commanded and actual
position.  The Labjack server was indicating a turn.  Closing and restarting
cleared the problem.

There are two changes that I know of.  I recently changed the rotor position
change window from 3 degrees to 10 degree to reduce wear, as that is close
enough for LEOs.  I have reset that to 3 degrees to remove the variable.

Mark, G0MGX suggested that I look at KB4103718, which has been reported to
be causing some USB issues.  I have removed it, and will see what happens.
If it happens again, I will get more details.  It certainly looks like
something in the OS rather than SatPC32.  

73,

Alan
WA4SCA



<-----Original Message-----
<From: Erich Eichmann [mailto:erich.eichmann at t-online.de]
<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:06 AM
<To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator
control
<
<Hello Alan, Nick and others,
<I didn't make any changes with  ServerLabjack. The file is unchanged
<since Dec. 12. 2012.  SatPC32 itself only outputs the target positions
<to ServerLabjack. Only this file then checks whether the rotors have
<reached the target positions.
<Is there any  correlation between updating  the target positions by
<SatPC32 and stalling of the rotor?
<
<I also use  Windows 7, 64-bit and  the Labjack U-12 with a KR-5600.
<Lately I used it for multiple satellite passes and  I just tested full
<360? turns of the az. rotor/ 90? turns of the el. rotor in both
<direction (entered target postions in menu "Rotor").   No issues so far.
<73s, Erich, DK1TB
<
<Am 30.05.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Alan:
<> Same here, beginning a week or so back.  Investigating, but so far
nothing
<> determined.  Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in
<the
<> recent updates.
<>
<> 73,
<>
<> Alan
<> WA4SCA
<>
<>
<> <-----Original Message-----
<> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
<Nick
<> <Pugh
<> <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM
<> <To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
<> <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
<> <
<> <Hello Amsat-ers
<> <
<> <
<> <
<> <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32
<> <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED
on
<> <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no
<> <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions??
<> <
<> <
<> <
<> <
<> <
<> <
<> <
<> <Nick k6qxj
<> <
<> <_______________________________________________
<> <Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
<available
<> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<Opinions
<> <expressed
<> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
<> AMSAT-
<> <NA.
<> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<> <program!
<> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<>
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<available
<> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<Opinions expressed
<> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
<AMSAT-NA.
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<program!
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Wed May 30 19:33:44 2018
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 19:33:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites in TX Factor Show + Bulgaria CubeSat
References: <1029192493.12230000.1527708824504.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1029192493.12230000.1527708824504@mail.yahoo.com>

Amateur radio satellites in TX Factor Show episode 21 
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/30/satellites-tx-factor-21/

Bulgarian CubeSat EnduroSat on ISS awaiting deployment 
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/30/bulgaria-endurosat/

IARU R1 highlights threat to higher ham radio bands 
https://amsat-uk.org/2018/05/28/iaru-r1-highlights-threat-to-higher-ham-radio-bands/

Trevor M5AKA
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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed May 30 23:01:31 2018
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 19:01:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Sterrenschool De
	Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <2E6E8B6631BF4E38BF10FFD33D678FF9@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands on 31 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 16:58 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK4KHZ. The contact should be audible over Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter is a primary school in Rotterdam located in the inner city neighborhood Afrikaanderwijk (Feijenoord). The Afrikaanderwijk was one of the first areas with an international background, primarily consisting families of Turkish, Moroccan, Surinamese and Antillean descent. 

 

Globetrotter focused this school year on a project group of students from all grades with a need for extra challenges and assignments. The theme this year has been space exploration. Two teachers have been carrying out and will carry out the project in weekly lessons in order to provide in depth knowledge of the galaxy, space exploration and radio communication. During the rest of the week the students has been and will work on these assignments after their regular schoolwork. Central to this approach is that the students extend their work based on their own interests and share their work with the other students, teachers and parents. The two weeks prior to the contact with ISS, the entire school will be working on projects that have to do with the universe and ISS.

 

Aloysius school, Maasland

It started with a pupil from our school who had a question about a solar eclipse from space. This way we were involved in the ARISS project. Stefan Nelwan took the initiative for the application. Our school loves challenges. So, the Aloysiusschool, a small village school in rural Maasland, was chosen to participate in a large project. Together with the Globetrotter, a city school in the heart of Rotterdam, we had several contacts about the course of events. We made a website with lots of information for the children and gave lessons about morse code, but also about all kinds of themes around it, such as technology, innovation, physics and more. In the period that Stephen Hawking died, more input was released. In class we spoke about ISS, about the universe, about the solar system, space debris and even about the meaning of life. The universe is fascinating and brings us to the essence of our lives for now but also in the future. Children can handle this flawlessly. We built little plastic bottle- missiles and launched them on a soccer field. We watched films and saw our national pioneers Wubbo Ockels and Andr? Kuipers take an important step in our history. One question led to another and so we all became all, step by step, a little wiser.

 

We decided to ask the children of three regular classes (not only the children with a need for extra challenges and assignments) to put their questions on a digital bulletin board. Not every student put something on it, but eventually it filled with countless relevant and irrelevant questions. In the end we selected a number of relevant questions. We also looked at the fact that children experience things differently than adults. We hope that we have laid a foundation for further exploration and that the children will realize that we have to be careful with that piece of rock that rotates in an immeasurable universe, that we call Earth. It is remarkable to know that the Sun will swallow our planet in five billion years and eventually destroy everything we've built up. Space exploration can perhaps prevent humanity from ceasing to exist.

 

We were not able to realize everything we had in our minds, but we are satisfied with the proceeds of the project and thank the people who made this possible for us. We have experienced the cooperation with the Globetrotter as very pleasant and meaningful.

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1. Is it hard to walk with gravity once you've returned to earth?

2. Is someone's blood pressure different in space?

3. What kind of work in ISS do you find easy and what difficult?

4. Can you catch diseases in space that you won't catch on earth?

5. Do you miss having pets in space? Would it be possible to have pets in    

   ISS?

6. How do you see a solar eclipse from the ISS?

7. Do you have difficulties with the enclosed space?

8. You are conducting a lot of experiments in ISS, are there experiments that 

   are secret and you can't tell anything about.

9. What inspired you to become an astronaut?

10. Can one be afraid of heights in space?

11. Is it nice to sleep in space, do you find it comfortable?

12. Is space radiation dangerous for your body and how do you prevent cell 

    damage?

13. Do you miss your family, what do you miss that you didn't anticipate 

    beforehand?

14. If you are in space, what is your greatest fear?

15. You are growing plants in ISS, do they grow well and how do you water 

    them when there is no gravity

16. Does your body feel the same in space as on earth or are there 

    differences?

17. Does one ever experience physical pain or discomfort from being in space?

18. What do you do when space-debris is heading towards ISS?

19. Do you sometimes organize joint activities such as a game 'evening'?

20. What kind of experiments are you currently doing in ISS?

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

TBD

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 


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From jmtrewitt at gmail.com  Thu May 31 00:44:45 2018
From: jmtrewitt at gmail.com (Jordan Trewitt)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 19:44:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
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So it sounds like they're getting ready for some more tests with this tweet
from BG2BHC:

DSLWP Live CD update, for the tests comming this weekend
https://t.co/Tjw5Yo9VfT @AMSAT @AmsatUK @cgbassa @dk3wn @n6rfm @ndonso
@ea4gpz @m6sig @JA5BLZ


Best regards,
Jordan Trewitt
KF5COQ

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:08 AM Dimitry Borzenko <dibor at iname.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike.
> I have pointing Program Tracking CC of all decoders to the
> program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt file
> For me is more simple to change new downloaded file to
> "program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt" and overwrite existed then change path in
> the Program Tracking CC block of 2 or 4 decoders.
>
> Thank you for the help!
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
> To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: 30.05.2018 18:46:13
> Subject: AW: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
>
> >Hi Dimitry,
> >
> >of course - you need the full path + filename ...
> >
> >Wei, BG2BHC is updating the files regularly. If you take a look into
> >such a tracking file you see seven columns in each line. The first
> >column contains the date and time in Unix timestamp format. The next 3
> >columns contain the position in ECEF coordinates followed by 3 columns
> >which contain the velocity in ECEF coordinates. Based on the filename
> >you can see how long this file can be used.
> >
> >You will get this error message (File is not find or EOF .....)  if no
> >valid information is found that match to the current time.
> >
> >73 Mike
> >
> >
> >-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
> >Gesendet: 30 May 2018 17:10
> >An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
> >Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >
> >Hi Mike.
> >Understood.
> >Program Tracking CC block request exact file, path is not enough.
> >I should to change every day/ two days Program Tracking CC setting for
> >each demodulator?
> >Or I do not understand something?
> >
> >Regards.
> >
> >------ Original Message ------
> >From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
> >To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
> ><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >Sent: 30.05.2018 17:23:48
> >Subject: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >
> >>Dimitry,
> >>
> >>the default directory is /home/lilac/lilacsat/gr-dslwp/examples/
> >>Edit the correct path in the Program Tracking CC block.
> >>
> >>73 Mike
> >>DK3WN
> >>
> >>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>Von: Dimitry Borzenko [mailto:dibor at iname.com]
> >>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 14:58
> >>An: Mike Rupprecht; 'AMSAT BB'
> >>Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >>
> >>Hello Mike.
> >>I saw new files but I do not know where I should to put this file
> >>(which folder?).
> >>
> >>Regards.
> >>
> >>
> >>------ Original Message ------
> >>From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
> >>To: "'Dimitry Borzenko'" <dibor at iname.com>; "'AMSAT BB'"
> >><amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >>Sent: 30.05.2018 14:56:51
> >>Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >>
> >>>Hi Dimitry,
> >>>
> >>>TLE are useles in lunar orbit.
> >>>
> >>>You have to update the tracking file in all four decoders.
> >>>
> >>>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/program_tracking_dslwp
> >>>-
> >>>b_201
> >>>80529.txt
> >>>
> >>>(or later files)
> >>>
> >>>73 Mike
> >>>DK3WN
> >>>
> >>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von
> >>>Dimitry Borzenko
> >>>Gesendet: 30 May 2018 10:36
> >>>An: AMSAT BB
> >>>Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >>>
> >>>Hello.
> >>>Have problem with running Live CD.
> >>>Have made USB bootable diskONkey , system is runs.
> >>>Mun Downlink Proxy is configured and Orbit TLE can be downloaded, but
> >>>ALL ports is NOT connected!
> >>>RTL is running and freq. calibrated.
> >>>Also while running Decoder got 4 terminals running and have some
> >>>message about "File is not find or EOF ....."
> >>>
> >>>What I did wrong?
> >>>
> >>>de 4z5cp.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>------ Original Message ------
> >>>From: "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com>
> >>>To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >>>Sent: 30.05.2018 2:30:33
> >>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Jean Marc.
> >>>>
> >>>>I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites.  While
> >>>>several of the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band
> >>>>downlinks, I'm not aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the
> >>>>first day as the sats left Earth.
> >>>>
> >>>>In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm
> >>>>telemetry (using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard
> >>>>any confirmation that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry
> >>>>-or-
> >>>>JT4).
> >>>>
> >>>>-Scott,  K4KDR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>=======================================================
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message----- From: Jean Marc Momple
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
> >>>>To: AMSAT BB
> >>>>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
> >>>>
> >>>>Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>>May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so
> >>>>far?
> >>>>
> >>>>I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
> >>>>
> >>>>73
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
> >>>>>LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
> >>>>>This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I
> >>>>>published
> >>>>>a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>73,
> >>>>>Nico PA0DLO
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie at sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
> >>>>>>Michael
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift
> >>>>>>for a satellite orbiting the moon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>1.  Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise
> >>>>>>(+ve
> >>>>>>Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>2.  Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
> >>>>>>changing in comparison).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>3.  Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or
> >>>>>>Moonsked. I can't help with 3.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary
> >>>>>>from
> >>>>>>~
> >>>>>>+3
> >>>>>>to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate
> >>>>>>Doppler shift for Deep Space missions.  Observing the Doppler
> >>>>>>shift
> >>>>>>change when probes were captured by the target planet was quite
> >>>>>>interesting (a slowly changing shift to a cyclic one).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>73
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Charlie G3WDG
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since
> >>>>>> > the
> >>>>>>moon
> >>>>>>>orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that
> >>>>>>>there would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you
> >>>>>>>compensate for the speed of the orbit around the moon that is
> >>>>>>>also
> >>>>>>>at a much lower speed than a Earth satellite would be traveling
> >>>>>>>at.
> >>>>>>>Earth satellites are in the 17,000 mph range and moon satellites
> >>>>>>>are in the 2000 mile an hour range orbiting speed. Also the
> >>>>>>>chance
> >>>>>>>that the satellite orbiting the moon could be at such an axis
> >>>>>>>where it is in full visibility the earth the whole time, at that
> >>>>>>>point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon
> >>>>>>>satellite
> >>>>>>>velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>experts chime in on this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Michael Vivona
> >>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the
> >>>>>>>moon :-) Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and
> >>>>>>>position to earth, you might have a difficult time adjusting for
> >>>>>>>doppler. I let more knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Stefan, VE4NSA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt
> >>>>>>>><jmtrewitt at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule
> >>>>>>>>something with someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd
> >>>>>>>>work with getting a rotator to work though), if they have a
> >>>>>>>>large
> >>>>>>>>enough yagi that is.
> >>>>>>>>-Jordan
> >>>>>>>>KF5COQ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger
> >>>>>>>>><zmetzing at pobox.com>
> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
> >>>>>>>>>>successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
> >>>>>>>>>>No further details yet.
> >>>>>>>>>Nico,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the
> >>>>>>>>>downlink signals?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>73,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>--- Zach
> >>>>>>>>>N0ZGO
> >>>>
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>
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From dgbartholomew at gmail.com  Wed May 30 23:55:14 2018
From: dgbartholomew at gmail.com (David Bartholomew)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 16:55:14 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] CM94 coming June 16!
Message-ID: <CAMfCzcy=ttAqP29k05T=PF7c6AOHjLLpM42weSXX+sq=M3zeCA@mail.gmail.com>

AD7DB is planning a day trip to CM94 near Vandenberg AFB California.
This will be on Saturday June 16 2018. Mark your calendar!
I am planning to work passes from 1700z to 2300z timeframe, on SO-50, AO-91
and AO-92.
More details will be posted on Twitter @ad7db as the time approaches.
If you need this grid, I will try to be there for you.

73, Dave AD7DB

From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Thu May 31 07:32:02 2018
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 02:32:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
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I also run as an administrator
nick






nick

Cell????? 337 258 2527
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Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School
Disagree I Learn


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 9:41 AM
To: 'John Kludt' <johnnykludt at gmail.com>; 'Alan (AMSAT)'
<APBIDDLE at mailaps.org>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control

John,

Good suggestion, but "unfortunately" I already run it as an administrator.
Bad security practice, but as you say, it can eliminate odd problems.

The Meltdown/Spectre patch has caused a noticeable performance hit on my
machine, even though it is very capable.  I am wondering if it may be
causing a timing problem?  Fortunately the problem only occurs every 2-3
days, but is annoying for unattended operation.  SatPC32/Labjack have been
running flawlessly for literally years.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA






<-----Original Message-----
<From: John Kludt [mailto:johnnykludt at gmail.com]
<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 09:28 AM
<To: Alan (AMSAT) <APBIDDLE at mailaps.org>
<Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator
control < <Alan and Nick, < <If you think it may be update related try the
"Run as Administrator" option <(right click on the desk top icon then <Run
as Administrator>.  This has been <solving a number of issues for me lately,
all related to Windows security <changes to be in compliance with the new EU
privacy laws.  It is a long shot but <it costs you nothing and if it doesn't
fix the problem at least you have <discovered one easy thing to do that
didn't work.
<
<John K4SQC
<
<On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com
<<mailto:wa4sca at gmail.com> > wrote:
<
<
<	Same here, beginning a week or so back.  Investigating, but so far
<nothing
<	determined.  Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was
<something in the
<	recent updates.
<
<	73,
<
<	Alan
<	WA4SCA
<
<
<	<-----Original Message-----
<	<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org
<<mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> ] On Behalf Of Nick
<	<Pugh
<	<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM
<	<To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-
<BB at amsat.org> >
<	<Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator
<	<
<	<Hello Amsat-ers
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under
<Satpc32
<	<v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The
LED
<on
<	<the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but
no
<	<movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal.
<Suggestions??
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<
<	<Nick k6qxj
<	<
<	<_______________________________________________
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From wmc_jx at 163.com  Thu May 31 08:32:18 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 16:32:18 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3
Message-ID: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to 31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. 


We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs should be used. 


Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD.


The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, that's why UHF is not always on. 



Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt


Updated version of Live CD:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing   


Best Regards and 73!


Wei BG2BHC







--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From mhz4464 at yahoo.com  Thu May 31 10:48:41 2018
From: mhz4464 at yahoo.com (Fer)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 10:48:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3
In-Reply-To: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>
References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>
Message-ID: <1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hello?WEI Mingchuan,
congratulations for? your mission and many thanks for DSLW-B info.
Can any gnuradio Guru write a short guide on how to set parameters on gnuradio Live CD?Please, not interested in how to download the .iso file but wich parameters set and in which way in gnuradio window when the Live Cd is up and running.
Thanks in advance?73 de Fer IW1DTU    On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 8:33:34 AM GMT, ??? <wmc_jx at 163.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi OMs,


We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to 31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC. 


We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs should be used. 


Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD.


The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, that's why UHF is not always on. 



Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt


Updated version of Live CD:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing ? 


Best Regards and 73!


Wei BG2BHC







--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com
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From dibor at iname.com  Thu May 31 11:12:19 2018
From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 11:12:19 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3
In-Reply-To: <1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>
	<1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <em5a91a2c7-b49b-4cbc-8981-55161ddca5e1@int-station>

Hi Fer.
If U use RTL dongle U do not need to do any settings.
Pse do exact as shown in the dslwp_doc.

de 4z5cp



------ Original Message ------
From: "Fer via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
To: "???" <wmc_jx at 163.com>; "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: 31.05.2018 13:48:41
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3

>Hello WEI Mingchuan,
>congratulations for  your mission and many thanks for DSLW-B info.
>Can any gnuradio Guru write a short guide on how to set parameters on 
>gnuradio Live CD?Please, not interested in how to download the .iso 
>file but wich parameters set and in which way in gnuradio window when 
>the Live Cd is up and running.
>Thanks in advance 73 de Fer IW1DTU    On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 
>8:33:34 AM GMT, ??? <wmc_jx at 163.com> wrote:
>
>Hi OMs,
>
>
>We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to 
>31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC.
>
>
>We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on 
>435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher 
>priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding 
>demod grcs should be used.
>
>
>Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD.
>
>
>The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, 
>that's why UHF is not always on.
>
>
>
>Tracking file updates can be found on: 
>https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or 
>http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt
>
>
>Updated version of Live CD:
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>Best Regards and 73!
>
>
>Wei BG2BHC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>
>WEI Mingchuan
>
>
>Research Center of Satellite Technology
>Harbin Institute of Technology
>mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
>e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>of AMSAT-NA.
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>program!
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From wmc_jx at 163.com  Thu May 31 11:21:19 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 19:21:19 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP UHF Test Plan on May 31, Jun 1 and Jun 3
In-Reply-To: <1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <66b6722a.a095.163b55381e6.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>
	<1035118974.608504.1527763721388@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <64bb9938.cbb7.163b5ee3e0b.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi Fer,


Thank you very much for your support!


A user manual for the live cd can be found here: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc/blob/master/DSLWP_Live_CD_User_Manual_20180520.pdf


Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions.


73!


Wei 





--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

At 2018-05-31 18:48:41, "Fer" <mhz4464 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello WEI Mingchuan,


congratulations for  your mission and many thanks for DSLW-B info.


Can any gnuradio Guru write a short guide on how to set parameters on gnuradio Live CD?
Please, not interested in how to download the .iso file but wich parameters set and in which way in gnuradio window when the Live Cd is up and running.


Thanks in advance 
73 de Fer IW1DTU
On Thursday, May 31, 2018, 8:33:34 AM GMT, ??? <wmc_jx at 163.com> wrote:




Hi OMs,





We are planning two tests for UHF of DSLWP-B, from 31 May 16:00 UTC to 31 May 18:00 UTC, and from 1 Jun 02:00 UTC to 1 Jun 04:00 UTC.





We will change the mode of the transmitters to 250 bps GMSK and JT4G on 435.4 MHz (GMSK every 5 min, JT4G every 10 min, JT4G has higher priority), and 250 bps GMSK on 436.4 MHz (every 5 min). Corresponding demod grcs should be used.





Some more tests are planned on Jun 3, and detailed time TBD.





The temperature of onboard batteries is a little higher than expected, that's why UHF is not always on.







Tracking file updates can be found on: https://github.com/bg2bhc/dslwp_doc or http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/tle/program_tracking_dslwp-b.txt





Updated version of Live CD:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ptga7XfgQ--qsnD4QhpNiRRUIW3c626L/view?usp=sharing  





Best Regards and 73!





Wei BG2BHC















--



WEI Mingchuan





Research Center of Satellite Technology

Harbin Institute of Technology

mobile: +86-189-4501-5242

e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

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From wmc_jx at 163.com  Thu May 31 13:47:33 2018
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:47:33 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP Tests on May 31 and Jun 1 Cancelled
Message-ID: <33c57115.dd34.163b6741d10.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs, 


Sorry but the tests on May 31 an Jun 1 was cancelled again. Still working towards the tests on Jun 3.


Sorry again and best regards,


Wei BG2BHC



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Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com

From ingejack at cox.net  Thu May 31 15:50:40 2018
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 11:50:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] G550 elevation Rotor
Message-ID: <93171176.6525.1527781840188@myemail.cox.net>

Still looking for a Yaesu G550 elevation rotor .. If anyone has one in good working condition and wants to sell it, please email me Thank you  JACK  KC7MG  good in qrz.com

From eb1fvq at gmail.com  Thu May 31 21:25:11 2018
From: eb1fvq at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zZSBFbGlhcyBEaWF6?=)
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 00:25:11 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1527801911.25138970@f29.my.com>



Hi guys I?ll be on AO91.... 0436 utc 01/06/2018 looking NA


Enviado desde myMail para iOS

From aj9n at aol.com  Thu May 31 23:22:29 2018
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 19:22:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-31 23:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <163b8827bcd-c96-19fea@webjas-vae160.srv.aolmail.net>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC



Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Sterrenschool De Globetrotter, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, telebridge via VK4KHZ

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU

Contact was successful: Thu 2018-05-31 16:58:36 UTC 40 deg ?(***)



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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
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http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:? 

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 103


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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date 
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-05-31 23:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1231. (***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1180. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. 

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

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The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:?? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-05-31 23:00 UTC. (***)


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 54 on orbit

Scott Tingle KG5NZA

Norishige Kanai

Anton Shkaplerov

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Exp. 55 on orbit

Drew Feustel

Oleg Artemyev

Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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