From marklhammond at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 06:50:04 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 20:50:04 -1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] W3ZM/KH6 update 1
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyr8kXdF6mKkN5HrQV2m_VHG=qkPoaDPK8UGCscM6tmWRA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, trying some passes on the edges of footprint.  Be patient as I
fumble around.   I?m updating on Twitter.

Recap for W3ZM/KH6 in BK29

7/1

1149 utc AO-7 near 145.938

1640 utc SO-50

2046 utc AO-91 (only 2 deg)


There will be others over the next 3 days!


73,

Mark N8MH.

-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Mon Jul  1 14:21:17 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 22:21:17 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed
Message-ID: <a56579fe-e1f2-0467-2499-781b05d8693e@msa.hinet.net>

Finally got a chance to tonight to see if I could get some signals in 
from PSAT2. Got a very nice image on a 58 degree pass 
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ZE3vHU4AE0Ah5.png), but I noticed it was 
intertwined with a PSK signal. Is that supposed to be?

Got a stand-alone PSK signal a while later, but FLdigi couldn't decode 
it, because it looked like two separate PSK signal? How can you decode 
it then? (And yes, if the answer is out there accept my apologies: I 
have not been paying attention this past week. Sorry).

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Mon Jul  1 14:30:54 2019
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:30:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for July 2019
Message-ID: <F5A46202F87A4F329E87540B721E85F1@Ron8300PC>

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period June 1, 2019 through July 1, 2019. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! 

CALL         01Jun    01Jul K5OE 1008 1079 
      WD9EWK 550 567 
      N3GS 454 525 
      NS3L 457 475 
      K9UO 351 400 
      W5TD      New 381 
      MI6GTY 281 354 
      KE8AKW 258 329 
      W7JSD 279 309 
      G0ABI 305 306 
      AD0HJ 250 282 
      KC9ELU 229 233 
      AJ4A 225 230 
      AB1OC 177 184 
      N7EGY 100 169 
      PU8RFL 157 166 
      PS8MT 156 165 
      AA8CH/N8R      New 113 
      KC9VGG      New 102 
      N6REK      New 100 
      WD9EWK (DM45)      New 100 


If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at <mycall>@<mycall>.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for The two months. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. 

Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work!

Ron W5RKN

From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jul  1 14:49:08 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 10:49:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed
In-Reply-To: <a56579fe-e1f2-0467-2499-781b05d8693e@msa.hinet.net>
References: <a56579fe-e1f2-0467-2499-781b05d8693e@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <bcd8f2d873f4b6bcf37b5302dd62cdd7@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, PSK31 and SSTV are in the same audio..  Did you capture a picture of
the waterfall so we can see how the two look?  PSK31 users should avoid
the center of the passband where the SSTV tones are 1200 to 2300.

Also, we would be happy to see a good image of a waterfall with multiple
PSK31 traces in it.  So far, I don't think anyone has claimed to have made
the first PSK31 contact via PSAT2.

Since the 10m PSK31 uplink will shift a total of about 1 KHz during the
pass.  Users should probably always begin at the 29.481x frequency that
will have them at about 1 KHz in the downlink passband.  They will then
shift down during the pass.

But ideally, people will uplink with the special PSK31 full-duplex
Transmit program written by andy Flowers that will auto-adjust your
uplink to maintain a constant tone in the downlink.  Then you can select
any initial TX tone that shows your signal between 400 Hz and 1 kHz.  And
you will ermain their throughout the pass.

This is just a first stab at a procedure.  It is subject to change as we
see more users.

Bob, WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Hans BX2ABT via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:21 AM
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed

Finally got a chance to tonight to see if I could get some signals in from
PSAT2. Got a very nice image on a 58 degree pass
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ZE3vHU4AE0Ah5.png), but I noticed it was
intertwined with a PSK signal. Is that supposed to be?

Got a stand-alone PSK signal a while later, but FLdigi couldn't decode it,
because it looked like two separate PSK signal? How can you decode it
then? (And yes, if the answer is out there accept my apologies: I have not
been paying attention this past week. Sorry).

73 de Hans

BX2ABT

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From kdcarlso at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 15:03:53 2019
From: kdcarlso at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:03:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event
Message-ID: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>

I will be operating K2A this week as a representative of NY for the event
and hope to work some of the satellites during the week from FN03. I'm
still a newbie but I have a pair of eggbeaters up and can work the linear
or FM sats when everything cooperates. I will post on the AMSAT-NA Facebook
group and will use twitter @AMSAT when I know I'll be on.

Dave
N2OA

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 15:10:41 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:10:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed
In-Reply-To: <bcd8f2d873f4b6bcf37b5302dd62cdd7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a56579fe-e1f2-0467-2499-781b05d8693e@msa.hinet.net>
	<bcd8f2d873f4b6bcf37b5302dd62cdd7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOY+e_x0y11LtBykxcdVZRE9NYZFyXuQQ7yWWC93sBwpgQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Bob - very helpful info as always.

Hans, FLDigi is able to decode multiple PSK31 downlink streams at the same
time.  Please see the first picture in my tweet from last night:

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1145531115974922240

... for an example of my quick PSK31 decode from PSAT-2 even though it's
still at very low elevation for me here.

-Scott,  K4KDR

=========================

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:50 AM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Yes, PSK31 and SSTV are in the same audio..  Did you capture a picture of
> the waterfall so we can see how the two look?  PSK31 users should avoid
> the center of the passband where the SSTV tones are 1200 to 2300.
>
> Also, we would be happy to see a good image of a waterfall with multiple
> PSK31 traces in it.  So far, I don't think anyone has claimed to have made
> the first PSK31 contact via PSAT2.
>
> Since the 10m PSK31 uplink will shift a total of about 1 KHz during the
> pass.  Users should probably always begin at the 29.481x frequency that
> will have them at about 1 KHz in the downlink passband.  They will then
> shift down during the pass.
>
> But ideally, people will uplink with the special PSK31 full-duplex
> Transmit program written by andy Flowers that will auto-adjust your
> uplink to maintain a constant tone in the downlink.  Then you can select
> any initial TX tone that shows your signal between 400 Hz and 1 kHz.  And
> you will ermain their throughout the pass.
>
> This is just a first stab at a procedure.  It is subject to change as we
> see more users.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Hans BX2ABT via
> AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:21 AM
> To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed
>
> Finally got a chance to tonight to see if I could get some signals in from
> PSAT2. Got a very nice image on a 58 degree pass
> (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ZE3vHU4AE0Ah5.png), but I noticed it was
> intertwined with a PSK signal. Is that supposed to be?
>
> Got a stand-alone PSK signal a while later, but FLdigi couldn't decode it,
> because it looked like two separate PSK signal? How can you decode it
> then? (And yes, if the answer is out there accept my apologies: I have not
> been paying attention this past week. Sorry).
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Mon Jul  1 16:07:29 2019
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:07:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for July 2019 Correction
Message-ID: <2DF832580F8947D4A5AA42A650324A20@Ron8300PC>


Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the 
ARRL for the period June 1, 2019 through July 1, 2019. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! 

CALL 01 Jun 2019 01 Jul 2019 
     

     
     
     
     
      K5OE 1008 1079 
     
      K6FW 794 801 Correction 
      WD9EWK 550 567 
     
      N3GS 454 525 
     
      NS3L 457 475 
     
      K9UO 351 400 
     
      W5TD New 381 
     
      MI6GTY 281 354 
     
      KE8AKW 258 329 
     
      W7JSD 279 309 
     
      G0ABI 305 306 
     
      AD0HJ 250 282 
     
      KC9ELU 229 233 
     
      AJ4A 225 230 
     
      AB1OC 177 184 
     
      N7EGY 100 169 
     
      PU8RFL 157 166 
     
      PS8MT 156 165 
     
      AA8CH/N8R New 113 
     
      KC9VGG New 102 
     
      N6REK New 100 
     
      WD9EWK (DM45) New 100 
     

If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at <mycall>@<mycall>.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for The two months. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. 

Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work!

Ron W5RKN

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Mon Jul  1 16:53:02 2019
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:53:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W7D Wrap Up
Message-ID: <CANq+eyXMJg3tXMoMLWo3ijLmJRnQ2wVQ7B_=txhgarfdRutoZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello VHF Chasers of All Modes,

Wyatt and I wanted to send out a few notes to everyone now that the W7D
expedition has been in the bag for a few weeks and we've caught our breath.

Logs: You can view a complete breakdown of every contact we made, across
all bands and modes in the mast log spreadsheet here:
http://www.druidnetworks.com/W7D_Master_Logs.xlsx. Obviously it's a
Microsoft Excel file, so you'll need that to view it. Feel free to look
thru the spreadsheet for your callsign, and if anything doesn't look right
please email me direct and we'll get it sorted.

LOTW QSLs: On the QSL front, from the master spreadsheet I have generated
adif files for each type and style of contact, and those files have been
uploaded to LOTW. We have matches across all bands, all modes, using both
calls and multiple dates. That said 24 different ADIF files, and 24
different station locations had to be generated to cover all the different
grids and calls, so it's possible something got screwed up along the way.
If you dont have a match in LOTW, but see your QSO in the master
spreadsheet, make absolutely sure you're looking in the LOTW web interface
and not the output of a logging program. We have found that a few pieces of
logging software (N3FJP in particular) are not handling the LOTW XML output
when 2 grids have been uploaded with our station location. If you've double
checked in the LOTW web interface and still don't have a match, email me
and we'll get it sorted.

Paper QSLs: The cards arrived from the printers last Friday, and I spent
the weekend getting labels put on everything. Everyone who sent a card and
SASE, and everyone who made a donation should (as of this morning) have a
card on the way to them. I expect most folks in the US should have it
within a week, and folks overseas within 3 weeks. I've still got plenty of
cards left, so if you'd like a paper QSL feel free to send your card and a
SASE, or email me and we can work something out regarding postage. Folks
who worked us on EME from places far off the US Mail beaten path
especially, if you'd like a card please email me and I'll arrange to get
one to you somehow.

Stats: Total across all bands and modes, 950 QSOs were logged on the rove.
730 QSOs were made on 6m Terrestrial, 122 on 2m EME, 63 on 2m Terrestrial,
and 52 on AMSAT. On 6m specifically 309 contacts were made using FT8, 226
on SSB, and 195 using MSK144. All EME contacts were made on JT65. On 2m
Terrestrial 39 on MSK144, 21 on SSB, and 3 on FT8. 873 Total QSOs were made
across all bands and modes while fixed at the camps, and 77 Total QSOs were
made while truly operating mobile driving down the road. We worked 477
Unique Callsigns total, 405 uniques on 6m, and 55 uniques on EME. For
VUCC/FFMA purposes, we activated 25 total grids, including 6 of the top 10
most wanted FFMA grids. For WAS purposes we activated 5 total states. For
the June VHF Contest operating as W7D/R we turned in a score of 46,368 as a
High-Power Rover (operating from DN20 and DN10 for contest purposes) and
included 320 QSOs on 6, and 2 on 2m. Our total fuel bill (for both the
truck and generator) was $1064.40 and we ended up spending $413.25 on Food,
Ice, and Water.

The final Wrap Up: I'll be writing a proper story about the rove in the
coming months - my day job has kept me busy since I've gotten back though,
and that takes priority over writing for now. When the story is done I'll
be sure to share it with everyone. I've also got piles of pictures, videos,
and files full of data I plan to fully use and share because I find it
interesting.

What's Next: That's the question everyone keeps asking. And honestly, it
really depends. Wyatt and I have some ideas floating around, but there's a
bunch of logistics and/or paperwork required to pull them off. For now, if
you've got some awesome idea for next e-skip season, feel free to get in
touch with us and float it.. never know when something will stick to the
wall.

Last but not least: We have to send out a massive heartfelt thanks to folks
who pitched in to help us with the expenses. Whether you donated $5 or
$500, every single penny went towards Fuel, Food, Fees, and a few repairs
to the rover and some equipment. We said from the very beginning we were
doing this rove because we wanted to, even if no one pitched in. The fact
that so many of you had faith in us to get out there and put those grids on
the air was a huge boost to our morale during some tough hours when we were
second guessing ourselves. It also has given us a lot more courage to try
and keep pushing the envelope in the world of VHF Roving and rare grid
expeditions, when you know the community has got your back. From the bottom
of our hearts, we say to you all, thank you.

73!

Dave, KG5CCI
CC: Wyatt, AC0RA

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 16:54:16 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:54:16 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] GNU Radio Conference - Early Decision Deadline for
	Presentations is Today
Message-ID: <CACvjz2Wz+y8nuZ3znpKbUk8o0e-gcroUg_+4EobUm--u5adpZA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all!

Today is the early-decision deadline for submissions to GNU Radio
Conference. This year, we have a space communications and amateur radio
theme.

Get them in before midnight wherever you live! We accept presentations,
papers, and posters.

You do not have to present at the conference to submit to the proceedings.

https://openconf.org/GRCon19/author/submit.php

Final deadline is 1 September 2019.

Find out more at https://www.gnuradio.org/grcon/grcon19/

-Michelle W5NYV

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 17:06:49 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:06:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event
In-Reply-To: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMt1hKCHPHoPEHbgFbLjeC=fHHiYZVMKxd8K50eEWGNsg@mail.gmail.com>

I'll also be operating for this event on sats. I'll be using callsign
K2J representing North Carolina. I hope to work at least a pass or two
and I'll send an email to the list when I know what pass[es] I'll be
on.

More info:

http://www.13colonies.net/
https://www.qrz.com/db/k2j

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:05 AM Dave via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> I will be operating K2A this week as a representative of NY for the event
> and hope to work some of the satellites during the week from FN03. I'm
> still a newbie but I have a pair of eggbeaters up and can work the linear
> or FM sats when everything cooperates. I will post on the AMSAT-NA Facebook
> group and will use twitter @AMSAT when I know I'll be on.
>
> Dave
> N2OA
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From eli.caul at sonic.com  Mon Jul  1 20:12:04 2019
From: eli.caul at sonic.com (Eli Caul)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:12:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT991A on the sats
In-Reply-To: <CAHC1P2_aL1pJnk=Mpb972eKksR+Gxk3UnBCs+pO3gbO-OAym8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHC1P2_aL1pJnk=Mpb972eKksR+Gxk3UnBCs+pO3gbO-OAym8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MW2PR20MB2060978BED49756EF835843D98F90@MW2PR20MB2060.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

I use a pair of 991A on sideband and FM, and I?ve had pretty good luck with them.  It is -not- full duplex, sadly.

My only other experience was with a borrowed 9100, and I didn?t notice any difference between it and the 991.

As far as the band scope goes, it seems to work best on 2m.  I sometimes wish the display was larger.

Best,

- Eli Caul

Director of Customer Care
Sonic
707-237-6201 Direct
707-521-0131 Faxline
________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of John Geiger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 12:19:36 PM
To: AMSAT
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT991A on the sats

Has anyone used the Yaesu FT991A on the satellites?  Does the bandscope
really help to find people in the downlink passband?  Also, how does it do
on the FM satellites?  The QST review made it look like it is kind of deaf
on FM.

73 John W5TD (ex AF5CC)
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From christophe.mcr at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 21:13:09 2019
From: christophe.mcr at gmail.com (christophe.mcr)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 23:13:09 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Entrysat launched on July 3rd, be ready!
Message-ID: <CADF-Vj00xfCQpD4ajCB4tQE7uW3qtXBSJg7Pkqq3jQXSDkwK7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Dear

The EntrySat cubesat should be launch from  ISS the july 3rd at 15:00 GMT.

A dedicated page has been published with dedicated software for telemetry
decoding : http://site.amsat-f.org/eng-entrysat/


EntrySat Downlink : 436.95 MHz  - 9600 BPSK

Reports are welcome.

Christophe

From aj9n at aol.com  Mon Jul  1 22:20:24 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 22:20:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-01 22:00
	UTC
References: <1524152410.996433.1562019624882.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1524152410.996433.1562019624882@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-01 22:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Santa Barbara Public Library, Santa Barbara, CA, direct via K6TZ 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Nick Hague KG5TMV 

Contact is go for: Wed 2019-07-03 17:54:19 UTC 49 deg

?

Watch for livestream at starting at about 17:30 UTC: (***)

https://SantaBarbaraCA.gov/citytv2 (***)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

?

Exp. 58 back on earth (***)

Congratulations to the crew for a job well done! (***)

Oleg Konenenko

David St-Jacques KG5FYI

Anne McClain

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-01 22:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-06-29 02:30 UTC. (***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

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Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

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From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Tue Jul  2 00:44:42 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 08:44:42 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat-3 upload problem - Solved
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Message-ID: <b43261e6-8f92-390d-036c-7f8ae3b730d8@msa.hinet.net>

Thanks to the hard work of Chris this issue has now been fixed. I just 
downloaded the latest version (v0.24) of PacSat Ground Station and was 
successful in uploading two messages. This was done on my Linux box 
(Kubuntu 19.04) with Direwolf v1.5 as soundmodem/PE. A flow chart of my 
setup can be found here: http://bx2abt.com/main/Falconsat-3.

Thanks again to Chris for writing this modern day PacSat software.

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


On 06/26/2019 10:32 AM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Just uploaded log files and a message to GitHub. HTH. 73 de Hans (BX2ABT)
>
>
> On 06/25/2019 05:21 AM, Chris Thompson wrote:
>> Sorry for the late reply.? I've been a bit buried in other tasks.
>>
>> I don't think I have seen this issue before.? I have seen the issue 
>> were we keep requesting a file, even though it is fully downloaded, 
>> because FalconSat-3 changes the timestamps when it updates files.? 
>> But I have not seen this issue.? So I have logged it here:
>> https://github.com/ac2cz/Falcon/issues/43
>>
>> I'll check the code and see if I introduced an issue with some 
>> changes I did to fix another bug.
>>
>> Can you send me the file that you have difficulty uploading?? Or 
>> attach it to the github issue?
>>
>> 73
>> Chris
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:32 AM Hans BX2ABT 
>> <hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net <mailto:hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> ??? Okay, many hours googling and reading later......... I came upon two
>> ??? documents with some relevant information. First this is from the
>> ??? document "Pacsat File Header Definition". As it already says, it
>> ??? give a
>> ??? definition:
>>
>> ??? -------BEGIN-------
>> ??? 3.1.9 body_checksum
>>
>> ??? id????????????? :??? 0x09
>> ??? length????????? :??? 2
>> ??? data??????????? :??? unsigned int body_checksum
>>
>> ??? A 16 bit checksum formed by adding all bytes in the file body into
>> ??? a 16
>> ??? bit variable, ignoring overflow.? The <body_checksum> does not
>> ??? include
>> ??? the bytes comprising the PACSAT file header.
>>
>> ??? The <body_checksum> is primarily intended to detect mis-corrected
>> ??? multi-bit errors caused by Single Event Upsets in the PACSAT memory.
>>
>> ??? INITIALIZATION - The correct <body_checksum> must be supplied.
>> ??? -------END-------
>>
>> ??? I don't quite understand the second but last sentence: does the
>> ??? PACSAT
>> ??? memory get upset by my messages?
>>
>>
>> ??? ?From "Pacsat Protocol: File Transfer Level 0" document more on the
>> ??? upload procedures:
>>
>> ??? -------BEGIN-------
>> ??? 7.4. Completion of Upload
>>
>> ??? 7.4.1 Successful Upload Completion
>>
>> ??? When the server receives the DATA_END packet it will check the
>> ??? integrity
>> ??? of the file as far as possible.? If the checks pass, the server will
>> ??? downlink a
>> ??? UL_ACK_RESP packet.
>>
>> ??? Packet: UL_ACK_RESP
>> ??? Information: none
>>
>> ??? After transmitting the UL_ACK_RESP the server uplink state
>> ??? variable is
>> ??? UL_CMD_OK.? After receiving the UL_ACK_RESP, the client uplink state
>> ??? variable is UL_CMD_OK.
>>
>> ??? 7.4.2 Failure Caused by Server Rejecting Upload
>>
>> ??? The server may reject an upload while the client is sending DATA
>> ??? packets
>> ??? (due to file system problems on the server) or after the client
>> ??? has sent
>> ??? the DATA_END packet (due to corruption of the file).
>>
>> ??? If the server must abort the upload while receiving DATA packets or
>> ??? after receiving the DATA_END checks fail, it sends the UL_NAK_RESP
>> ??? packet.
>>
>> ??? Information: 1 byte
>> ??? ????? unsigned char err_code;
>> ??? <err_code>???? must be one of:
>>
>> ??? ER_BAD_HEADER - The file either has no PFH, or has a badly-formed 
>> PFH.
>> ??? ER_HEADER_CHECK - The PFH checksum failed.
>> ??? ER_BODY_CHECK - The PFH body checksum failed.
>> ??? ER_NO_ROOM - The server ran out of room for file storage before the
>> ??? upload was complete. The server will implement procedures to avoid
>> ??? frequently running out of room, but this cannot be guaranteed.
>>
>> ??? After transmitting the UL_NAK_RESP packet, the server uplink state
>> ??? variable is UL_CMD_OK.? After receiving the UL_ERROR_RESP, the 
>> client
>> ??? uplink state variable is UL_CMD_OK.
>> ??? -------END-------
>>
>> ??? So I clearly get a UL_NAK_RESP packet with the ER_BODY_CHECK error.
>>
>> ??? I also downloaded the PACSAT Ground Station software source code 
>> from
>> ??? G0KLA (hello Chris). The hex code for the BODY_CHECKSUM is 0x09.
>> ??? If you
>> ??? search for that in the source code you come up with the file
>> ??? Crc16.java.
>> ??? My coding skills are very minimal, so I don't grok the code
>> ??? completely,
>> ??? but I do see something strange in that file Crc16.java:
>>
>> ??? -------BEGIN-------
>>
>> ??? String s = "HELLO";
>>
>> ??? ????? byte[] bytes = s.getBytes();
>>
>>
>> ??? ????? //Crc16 crc = new Crc16(bytes);
>> ??? ????? short cs = 0;
>> ??? ????? for(byte b : bytes)
>> ??? ????? ??? cs += b & 0xff;
>> ??? ????? System.out.println(cs);
>>
>> ??? ????? PacSatField pf = new PacSatField(cs, 0x09);
>> ??? ????? System.out.println(pf);
>> ??? ???? }
>> ??? -------END-------
>>
>> ??? String s is probed for the number of bytes, then "converted" into
>> ??? variable cs, which is the PacSatField 0x09, iow the Body_Checksum.
>> ??? Now
>> ??? string s is simply "HELLO" and I don't see if this is hard coded
>> ??? or that
>> ??? this string changes according to the content of the message body. 
>> Any
>> ??? Java programmers here who want to help me look at it?
>>
>> ??? Any help appreciated. Cheers,
>>
>> ??? Hans
>>
>> ??? BX2ABT
>>
>>
>> ??? On 06/18/2019 10:07 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> ??? > Hello all,
>> ??? >
>> ??? > Got all your TESTING UPLOAD messages in loud and clear. My
>> ??? message to
>> ??? > K4KDR didn't get send out. I'm still (re)searching about the
>> ??? cause of
>> ??? > this. Later......
>> ??? >
>> ??? > Hans
>> ??? >
>> ??? > BX2ABT
>> ??? >
>> ??? >
>> ??? > On 06/18/2019 09:45 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>> ??? >> Hi Hans,
>> ??? >>
>> ??? >> I was able to upload a message (to you!) on FS-3 last night/this
>> ??? >> morning, fully automated.? So the satellite is evidently
>> ??? behaving OK.
>> ??? >>
>> ??? >> Hope you get it figured out.? Since I don't use Direwolf, sorry I
>> ??? >> can't give any suggestions.
>> ??? >>
>> ??? >> 73,
>> ??? >>
>> ??? >> Mark N8MH
>> ??? >>
>> ??? >> At 08:07 AM 6/18/2019 +0800, Hans BX2ABT wrote:
>> ??? >>
>> ??? >>> I didn't write it directly, but I assumed from the description
>> ??? you
>> ??? >>> would read that I indeed run full duplex (and to add to this: my
>> ??? >>> system is Linux, not Windows). If not Direwolf will wait for a
>> ??? free
>> ??? >>> window to throw out packets which will never happen because
>> ??? FS-3 is
>> ??? >>> on all the time. No, everything is working, except for the
>> ??? problem I
>> ??? >>> described before: all commands to the bird are heard and
>> ??? responded
>> ??? >>> to, but uploading a message will fail.
>> ??? >>>
>> ??? >>> Desensing is also not the problem: got the appropriate 
>> filters in
>> ??? >>> place for that. Cheers,
>> ??? >>>
>> ??? >>> Hans
>> ??? >>>
>> ??? >>> BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>
>> ??? >>> On 06/17/2019 10:52 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>> ??? >>>> Hello Hans, I have not been working FS-3 recently, since the
>> ??? >>>> IC-9700 will not do 9600 packet [iCom, please fix!!] :( ? ?
>> ??? So I
>> ??? >>>> cannot comment on recent uploads.? However, to add to Bob's
>> ??? >>>> thoughts--are you running full duplex? ? It's critical.?
>> ??? Also, is
>> ??? >>>> your transmit signal desensitizing your receive signal?? ?
>> ??? That is
>> ??? >>>> important, too.?
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> In the next week or so I will change radios at my station so
>> ??? I can
>> ??? >>>> again use FS-3. ?? I'll be better able to share current
>> ??? experiences
>> ??? >>>> with you.
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> 73,
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> Mark N8MH
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 9:19 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
>> ??? >>>> <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> ??? <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>> wrote:
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? I'm not behind my shack computer right now, but I know
>> ??? that PSGS
>> ??? >>>> ??? and
>> ??? >>>> ??? Direwolf each have a TX delay. Are you referring to those
>> ??? maybe
>> ??? >>>> ??? being
>> ??? >>>> ??? too long? If so, then why are all other commands?? (DL and
>> ??? >>>> ??? directory
>> ??? >>>> ??? listings) giving me no problem?
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? 73 de Hans
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? On 06/17/2019 08:53 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> ??? >>>> ??? > I am no expert.?? But remember that your RF and all
>> ??? processing
>> ??? >>>> ??? has to
>> ??? >>>> ??? > be full duplex.?? The turn arround for packets in the
>> ??? >>>> ??? satellite is
>> ??? >>>> ??? > instantaneous.
>> ??? >>>> ??? > with no TXD delays.?? Bob
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:24 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
>> ??? >>>> ??? > <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> ??? <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> ??? <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>>> wrote:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Up til now I have been successful in getting
>> ??? >>>> ??? PacSatGroundStation
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? (PSGS)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? to work on receive. You can go here if you want
>> ??? to see
>> ??? >>>> ??? my setup:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? http://bx2abt.com/main/Falconsat-3
>> ??? >>>> <http://bx2abt.com/main/Falconsat-3> . I can hit FalconSat-3
>> ??? >>>> with a
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? directory request or file download request and
>> ??? get an
>> ??? >>>> ??? immediate
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? response
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? and consequent downloads. Uploading is a different
>> ??? >>>> ??? story, however. I
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? have been able to get some messages uploaded, 
>> but it
>> ??? >>>> ??? was more by
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? chance.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Right now if I want to upload I seem to get into
>> ??? a loop
>> ??? >>>> ??? where PSGS
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? keeps
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? on sending out the same frame (I presume), then
>> ??? >>>> ??? disconnects, after
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? which
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? the whole cycle starts over again.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? ? From the PSGS debugging info you can see that 
>> I am
>> ??? >>>> ??? successful in
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? logging into PFS3-12. My file gets a designated ID
>> ??? >>>> ??? (1f14 in this
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? case)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? and is ready to be received. Then it uploads 
>> what I
>> ??? >>>> ??? presume is one
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? frame
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? (you can see this in Direwolf where the same
>> ??? chunk of
>> ??? >>>> ??? data is send
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? over
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? and over again) after which possibly the reason 
>> why
>> ??? >>>> ??? things don't
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? work:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? "ER_BODY_CHECK received while uploading:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ?
>> ??? >>>> /home/hans/PacSatGroundData/FalconSat-3/BX2ABT17.txt.out".
>> ??? The only
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? mention of ER_BODY_CHECK I can find on the
>> ??? internet is
>> ??? >>>> ??? that it is
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? sent
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? when the checksum on the file body fails. After 
>> that
>> ??? >>>> ??? the whole
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? sequence
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? starts again, so the message never gets 
>> uploaded and
>> ??? >>>> ??? out of the queue.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Does this problem lie with FalconSat-3, 
>> Direwolf or
>> ??? >>>> ??? PGSG, or
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? somewhere
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? else? Where is the checksum being made? This is my
>> ??? >>>> ??? first forray into
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? packet radio/PacSat, so I'm not an expert (yet). I
>> ??? >>>> ??? don't want to make
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? any (un)educated guesses, thus any help or 
>> hints are
>> ??? >>>> ??? appreciated.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Cheers,
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Hans
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? This is the output (with debugging turned on) of
>> ??? PSGS:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? --------BEGIN-------
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Open ABCD:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Ready to upload file: BX2ABT17.txt.out
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? B: 209908947.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? U>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Open: Adding UP LINK Event: UL_CONNECT
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PB: Empty..
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? I>>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT?? Ctrl: 0 Type: I Cmd
>> ??? PF: 0
>> ??? >>>> ??? NR: 0 NS: 0?
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 5 2 cc
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? a7 fb 5c 4> SUCCESSFUL LOGIN to PFS3-12 by BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Open: Adding UP LINK Event: 
>> From:PFS3-12 to
>> ??? >>>> ??? BX2ABT Ctrl: 0
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Type: I Cmd PF: 0 NR: 0? NS: 0?? 5 2 cc a7 fb 
>> 5c 4>
>> ??? >>>> ??? SUCCESSFUL
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? LOGIN to
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 by BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Cmd Ok: Adding UP LINK Event:
>> ??? UL_REQUEST_UPLOAD
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Cmd Ok: UL_CMD: From:BX2ABT to PFS3-12
>> ??? Ctrl: 0
>> ??? >>>> ??? Type: I
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Cmd PF:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 0 NR: 0?? NS: 0?? 8 3 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0 UL CMD:
>> ??? >>>> ??? UPLOAD_CMD File: 1f14
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Size: 331
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? S>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? I>>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT?? Ctrl: 22 Type: I Cmd
>> ??? PF: 0
>> ??? >>>> ??? NR: 1 NS: 1?
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 8 4
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0> Ready to receive file: 1f14 
>> from
>> ??? >>>> ??? BX2ABT?? at
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? off: 817
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Waiting: Adding UP LINK Event:
>> ??? From:PFS3-12 to
>> ??? >>>> ??? BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Ctrl: 22
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Type: I Cmd PF: 0 NR: 1? NS: 1?? 8 4 14 1f 0 0
>> ??? 31 3 0
>> ??? >>>> ??? 0> Ready to
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? receive
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? file: 1f14 from BX2ABT?? at off: 817
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Waiting: UL_GO_RESP: From:PFS3-12 to
>> ??? BX2ABT?
>> ??? >>>> ??? Ctrl: 22
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Type: I
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Cmd PF: 0 NR: 1?? NS: 1?? 8 4 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0
>> ??? 0> Ready
>> ??? >>>> ??? to receive
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? file:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 1f14 from BX2ABT?? at off: 817
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Waiting: GO FILE>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT?
>> ??? >>>> ??? Ctrl: 22 Type: I
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Cmd
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PF: 0 NR: 1?? NS: 1?? 8 4 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0>
>> ??? Ready to
>> ??? >>>> ??? receive file:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 1f14
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? from BX2ABT?? at off: 817
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Data: Adding UP LINK Event: UL_DATA_END
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Data: UL_DATA_END: UL_DATA_END
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? S>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? I>>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT?? Ctrl: 44 Type: I Cmd
>> ??? PF: 0
>> ??? >>>> ??? NR: 2 NS: 2?
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 1 7
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 10> UL NAK 16: ER_BODY_CHECK
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Data End: Adding UP LINK Event:
>> ??? From:PFS3-12
>> ??? >>>> ??? to BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Ctrl: 44
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Type: I Cmd PF: 0 NR: 2? NS: 2?? 1 7 10> UL NAK 
>> 16:
>> ??? >>>> ??? ER_BODY_CHECK
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Data End: UL_NAK_RESP: From:PFS3-12 to
>> ??? BX2ABT
>> ??? >>>> ??? Ctrl: 44
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Type: I
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Cmd PF: 0 NR: 2?? NS: 2?? 1 7 10> UL NAK 16:
>> ??? >>>> ER_BODY_CHECK
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? NAK: ER_BODY_CHECK received while uploading:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ?
>> ??? /home/hans/PacSatGroundData/FalconSat-3/BX2ABT17.txt.out
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? TIME-1: PHT: uptime is 469/13:51:30.? Time is
>> ??? Sat Jun
>> ??? >>>> ??? 08 12:19:29
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? 2019.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? U>>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Idle: Adding UP LINK Event: 
>> UL_DISCONNECTED
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? DEBUG 3: Idle: Adding UP LINK Event: Open ABCD:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Open ABCD:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? B: 209908947.
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PB: Empty..
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? ---------END-------
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? This is what Direwolf's output is:
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? --------BEGIN-------
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-1 audio level = 68(+118/-110)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-1>LSTAT:I P:0x13A8 o:0 l:31473
>> ??? f:31529, d:1
>> ??? >>>> ??? st:4 e:26<0x0d>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Unknown APRS Data Type Indicator "I", Ambulance
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(SABM cmd, p=1)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 audio level = 69(+115/-111)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(UA res, f=0)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 audio level = 70(+119/-110)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(I cmd, n(s)=0, n(r)=0, p=0,
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? pid=0xf0)<0x05><0x02>^<0xa8><0xfb>\<0x04>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(I cmd, n(s)=16, n(r)=120, 
>> p=0,
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ?
>> ??? >>>> pid=0x08)<0x08><0x03><0x14><0x1f><0x00><0x00>1<0x03><0x00><0x00>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 audio level = 70(+121/-110)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(RR res, n(r)=1, f=0)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 audio level = 70(+121/-109)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(I cmd, n(s)=17, n(r)=120, 
>> p=0,
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ?
>> ??? >>>> pid=0x08)<0x04><0x14><0x1f><0x00><0x00><0xfe><0x00><0x00><0x00>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(I cmd, n(s)=1, n(r)=2, p=0,
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? pid=0xf0)<0xfe><0x00>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? the internet server that you sent me a message
>> ??? on April
>> ??? >>>> ??? 11, but
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? unfortunately I never was able to download it.
>> ??? It took
>> ??? >>>> ??? a while to get
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? the transmitting part working, but now it does
>> ??? and I'm
>> ??? >>>> very
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? pleased to
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? be able to contact you via FS-3. Truly an amazin
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(RR cmd, n(r)=2, p=1)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-11 audio level = 65(+118/-109)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-11>PBLIST:PB: Empty.<0x0d>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? Unknown APRS Data Type Indicator "P", Original
>> ??? Balloon
>> ??? >>>> ??? (think Ham b
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 audio level = 66(+117/-109)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(RR res, n(r)=1, f=1)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(I cmd, n(s)=33, n(r)=120, 
>> p=0,
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ?
>> ??? >>>> pid=0x08)<0x08><0x03><0x00><0x00><0x00><0x00>1<0x03><0x00><0x00>
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? PFS3-12 audio level = 74(+125/-111)? ? [NONE]
>> ??? |||||||||
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(DISC cmd, p=1)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(UA res, f=1)
>> ??? >>>> ??? >?? ?? ? --------END-------
>> ??? >>>> ??? >
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jul  2 01:01:47 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:01:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 status (GREAT NEWS!)
In-Reply-To: bbea0d89bca3df9600013a688164dbba@mail.gmail.com
References: bbea0d89bca3df9600013a688164dbba@mail.gmail.com
Message-ID: <d788baab7d59a3c2b03b39492f5f0e16@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 is doing great!



PSK31 and SSTV transponder  have been on since launch.

SSTV downlinks are looking good.

See Gallery:  http://www.urel.feec.vutbr.cz/esl/psat2/sstv/

Still waiting for first report of user PSK31 contacts.



But I have not said much about the VHF modes? because we have had
difficulty commanding.  This is because the PSAT2 VHF uplink uses an
inexpensive narrowband XCVR module which is intolerant of overdeviated
signals, exactly what you get with +/- 3 kHz of Doppler.



ANYWAY, we can now consistently command if we set the Kenwood to narrowband
NFM and do it right in the middle of the pass.  Plus, we can extend that a
bit  (1.25 KHz after center) by then changing the radio step size to 6.25
Khz where the channel raster ups the channel by 1.25 KHz).



So, we now have command again!  You may have seen that we have turned on
Sun vector S#... telemetry and can easily see by plotting the 1 minute xyz
xyz xyz vector triplets that it is smoothly tumbling at about 1.3 RPM for
nice battery charging and good thermal management.



The downlink is live on FINDU:

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=psat2-1&time=1

Background:

This last 6 days of crisis was complicated by the fact that I am operating
in a temporary dungeon while the building is being renovated and all my  27
years of lab stuff is in 200 boxes surrounding me.  I installed a temporary
ground station on the top floor and modest antennas and a TV rotator and
the contractor let me drill a hole through the wall that they can seal up
later.  But the big problem is the 8 flights of stairs from my PC and
internet connectivity  in the dungeon up to the radio 6 times a day for
passes with only a few hours sleep and all kinds of what-if-dead-ends.  And
with passes from 10 PM to 2 AM.



But we are back in the saddle again!



And this good news reprieve is only an hour old, so it will take a while to
decide what we want to do next.  In any case, the Brno University PSK31 and
SSTV transponder has all the power for now, so enjoy.

Uplink USB on 29.4815 and downlink on 435.350 +/- Doppler.  The transponder
only comes up if there is a user in the uplink with PSK31.



Bob, WB4APR

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Tue Jul  2 01:24:14 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:24:14 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed
In-Reply-To: <bcd8f2d873f4b6bcf37b5302dd62cdd7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a56579fe-e1f2-0467-2499-781b05d8693e@msa.hinet.net>
	<bcd8f2d873f4b6bcf37b5302dd62cdd7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d29a69fd-4ccf-f98b-5046-9bdf01e748a9@msa.hinet.net>

Hello Bob,

I've taken a picture of the waterfall from the raw IQ file so the 
frequency is not correct, but here it is: 
http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20190701-1257_435360-PSAT2.png

The PSK31 signal is around 380 Hz, but still can't decode it. Anybody 
who wants to try: here is the audio file. 
http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/media/20190701-1257_435360-PSAT2.mp3

I don't have a digital setup for HF, so can't do PSK31. It also means a 
dual setup for audio/PTT on one PC. I doubt if I have enough USB ports 
for that, hi hi.

Later....

Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/01/2019 10:49 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> Yes, PSK31 and SSTV are in the same audio..  Did you capture a picture of
> the waterfall so we can see how the two look?  PSK31 users should avoid
> the center of the passband where the SSTV tones are 1200 to 2300.
>
> Also, we would be happy to see a good image of a waterfall with multiple
> PSK31 traces in it.  So far, I don't think anyone has claimed to have made
> the first PSK31 contact via PSAT2.
>
> Since the 10m PSK31 uplink will shift a total of about 1 KHz during the
> pass.  Users should probably always begin at the 29.481x frequency that
> will have them at about 1 KHz in the downlink passband.  They will then
> shift down during the pass.
>
> But ideally, people will uplink with the special PSK31 full-duplex
> Transmit program written by andy Flowers that will auto-adjust your
> uplink to maintain a constant tone in the downlink.  Then you can select
> any initial TX tone that shows your signal between 400 Hz and 1 kHz.  And
> you will ermain their throughout the pass.
>
> This is just a first stab at a procedure.  It is subject to change as we
> see more users.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Hans BX2ABT via
> AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:21 AM
> To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV & PSK mixed
>
> Finally got a chance to tonight to see if I could get some signals in from
> PSAT2. Got a very nice image on a 58 degree pass
> (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ZE3vHU4AE0Ah5.png), but I noticed it was
> intertwined with a PSK signal. Is that supposed to be?
>
> Got a stand-alone PSK signal a while later, but FLdigi couldn't decode it,
> because it looked like two separate PSK signal? How can you decode it
> then? (And yes, if the answer is out there accept my apologies: I have not
> been paying attention this past week. Sorry).
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
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From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Tue Jul  2 00:20:25 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:20:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMt1hKCHPHoPEHbgFbLjeC=fHHiYZVMKxd8K50eEWGNsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMt1hKCHPHoPEHbgFbLjeC=fHHiYZVMKxd8K50eEWGNsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d5306b$f2644870$d72cd950$@metrocast.net>

Add me to the list,  I'll be operating as K2F representing Maryland from
FM18.   Will be on as many passes I can both FM and Linear.  

73,  Cal Spreitzer  N3CAL  (K2F)

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 1:07 PM
To: Dave
Cc: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event

I'll also be operating for this event on sats. I'll be using callsign
K2J representing North Carolina. I hope to work at least a pass or two
and I'll send an email to the list when I know what pass[es] I'll be
on.

More info:

http://www.13colonies.net/
https://www.qrz.com/db/k2j

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:05 AM Dave via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:
>
> I will be operating K2A this week as a representative of NY for the event
> and hope to work some of the satellites during the week from FN03. I'm
> still a newbie but I have a pair of eggbeaters up and can work the linear
> or FM sats when everything cooperates. I will post on the AMSAT-NA
Facebook
> group and will use twitter @AMSAT when I know I'll be on.
>
> Dave
> N2OA
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From ddjulian54 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  2 02:15:10 2019
From: ddjulian54 at yahoo.com (Dave J)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:15:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 and SATPC32 linear tuning
Message-ID: <DC9CA80837AA42569A12984B49F617D7@DavePC>

Hello folks:

I just upgraded my tired FT-847 for a new IC-9700. FM birds are not a
problem but I'm wondering if someone has a good method of finding your
signal on the linear birds while using SATPC-32 revision 12.8d. The only way
I can vary the TX frequency is under the CAT Tuning menu Upl Calib field. It
seems to work but it's a bit clunky and not very quick. If I try to change
the transmit frequency on the radio it only gives me a few seconds then
reverts back to what is on the main screen of the PC. If I try changing the
receive frequency, the transmit frequency changes as well. Probably new
radio operator error but I would appreciate any suggestions.

 

Thanks//Dave WB9YIG 


From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 03:48:26 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 23:48:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 status (GREAT NEWS!)
In-Reply-To: <d788baab7d59a3c2b03b39492f5f0e16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d788baab7d59a3c2b03b39492f5f0e16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOY3ipkPZs+1jt-eJaYpif4ZkRO2mp7J3TV=id5TXyPzqA@mail.gmail.com>

Glad to hear all the positive news, Bob!  Thanks for keeping everyone
informed.

Regarding TLE, how sure are we that PSAT-2 is Object 44357 as indicated in:

https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt

... at the suggestion of JA0CAW, a very accomplished amateur in Japan, on
tonight's passes I attempted to determine whether PSAT-2's downlinks on
145.825 & 435.350 might be stronger by tracking Object 44355 (2019-036S).
And, while you can't reach any conclusion from only two passes (nor at such
low elevations), by eye & ear the downlinks seemed stronger when tracking
44355.

Of course, any number of factors could skew my result and tonight's
observation was subjective at best.  But I wanted to put this on the
mailing list in case anyone else would like to do any similar tests.

FYI, just like last night I saw short snippets of PSK31 streams around the
280Hz & 375Hz marks but unfortunately still no sign of my 10m PSK31
uplink.  I also got a few seconds of clear SSTV audio again tonight.  The
70cm downlink is looking great!  Just need a little more elevation for my
modest setup and location (Virginia).

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

===================

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:03 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> PSAT2 is doing great!
>
> PSK31 and SSTV transponder  have been on since launch.
>
> SSTV downlinks are looking good.
>
> See Gallery:  http://www.urel.feec.vutbr.cz/esl/psat2/sstv/
>
> Still waiting for first report of user PSK31 contacts.
>
> But I have not said much about the VHF modes? because we have had
> difficulty commanding.  This is because the PSAT2 VHF uplink uses an
> inexpensive narrowband XCVR module which is intolerant of overdeviated
> signals, exactly what you get with +/- 3 kHz of Doppler.
>
> ANYWAY, we can now consistently command if we set the Kenwood to narrowband
> NFM and do it right in the middle of the pass.  Plus, we can extend that a
> bit  (1.25 KHz after center) by then changing the radio step size to 6.25
> Khz where the channel raster ups the channel by 1.25 KHz).
>
> So, we now have command again!  You may have seen that we have turned on
> Sun vector S#... telemetry and can easily see by plotting the 1 minute xyz
> xyz xyz vector triplets that it is smoothly tumbling at about 1.3 RPM for
> nice battery charging and good thermal management.
>
> The downlink is live on FINDU:
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=psat2-1&time=1
>
> Background:
>
> This last 6 days of crisis was complicated by the fact that I am operating
> in a temporary dungeon while the building is being renovated and all my  27
> years of lab stuff is in 200 boxes surrounding me.  I installed a temporary
> ground station on the top floor and modest antennas and a TV rotator and
> the contractor let me drill a hole through the wall that they can seal up
> later.  But the big problem is the 8 flights of stairs from my PC and
> internet connectivity  in the dungeon up to the radio 6 times a day for
> passes with only a few hours sleep and all kinds of what-if-dead-ends.  And
> with passes from 10 PM to 2 AM.
>
> But we are back in the saddle again!
>
> And this good news reprieve is only an hour old, so it will take a while to
> decide what we want to do next.  In any case, the Brno University PSK31 and
> SSTV transponder has all the power for now, so enjoy.
>
> Uplink USB on 29.4815 and downlink on 435.350 +/- Doppler.  The transponder
> only comes up if there is a user in the uplink with PSK31.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul  2 04:11:39 2019
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 00:11:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Santa Barbara Public Library,
	Santa Barbara, CA
Message-ID: <9187EEF7FA3D4FC183BE625120E1CEE0@DHJ>

 

 

 

 

 

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Santa Barbara Public Library, Santa Barbara, CA on 03 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 17:54 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and K6TZ. The contact should be audible over the state of California and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

The Santa Barbara Public Library's mission is to provide information services, reading materials, and educational resources to the greater Santa Barbara community. The Library provides STEM programs and a wide range of maker programs year round. The Library enriches lives by creating equitable opportunities for learning both at our libraries and outside our walls in locations throughout the community. All of the Library's services are free of charge. Every summer, the Santa Barbara Public Library holds a Summer Reading and Learning Program for readers of all ages, which especially targets school age children to help prevent summer learning loss. This year, the theme of the program space exploration, and includes a series of STEAM programs related to astronomy, physics, radio communication, and other space related topics, in preparation for an ARISS (Amateur Radio International Space Station) contact taking place the first week of July. STEAM programs this summer include the following:

 

Cook up a Comet - What are comets, and how do they form? Kids can learn about these astrological phenomenon and create their own.

 

What is Amateur Radio? - Learn more about how our radio Space Station contact works by connecting with Santa Barbara Amateur Radio Club (SBARC), the group that is making contact with the ISS possible.

 

Little Bits ISS and Mars Rover - Learn about radio communication on the International Space Station or satellite communication with the Mars Rover by building your own model with Little Bits circuits.

 

Robotics Camp - Build and code your own space rover using Hummingbird Robotics in this week long camp.

 

Summer Space Camp - This will be a week-long camp where we'll focus on engineering, space, aeronautics, and the space station. Activities will include Wonderbots retrieving space samples, building and launching rockets, and astronaut boot camp.

 

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. What's the most interesting thing that you have seen while you were 

   on the space station?

2. Are there any planets that you've found that we could live on?

3. How do you take a shower?

4. Are pets and/or animals allowed on the ISS?

5. How do you survive and eat on the space station?

6. What does it feel like to be in space or the ISS? 

7. What is it like to be weightless and float in space?

8. Has the ISS been hit by space debris?

9. What does Earth look like from very far up?

10. What do you do in your life on Earth that you cannot do in space?

11. At your current orbit, do you have sunrise and sunset and how many 

    hours of daylight do you have?

12. If the ISS was rebuilt what would you do differently and should 

    another be built? 

13. Living in space or anywhere else other than on earth is very 

    dangerous. Why not just send robots?

14. Can you get sick while in space?

15. Do radio waves travel slower in space?

16. How do Astronauts use the restroom at the space station or when 

    traveling to the space station? 

17. How do you repair the space station?

18. Why do you eat Jello on Mondays?

19. What experiments do you do? Are you doing any research in space 

    that was your idea?

20. What do you do with your waste? Is there compost?

21. How many "pounds of thrust" are required to launch the rocket that 

    boosts the space station into space and what does it feel like?

22. How many years does it take and what tests do you have to pass to 

    become an astronaut?

23. Do you see space vehicles from other countries during your 

    observations? 

24. What was it like when you found out you actually get to go to the 

    space station?

 

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From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Tue Jul  2 10:42:08 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 06:42:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 and SATPC32 linear tuning
In-Reply-To: <DC9CA80837AA42569A12984B49F617D7@DavePC>
References: <DC9CA80837AA42569A12984B49F617D7@DavePC>
Message-ID: <000001d530c2$cc44fe80$64cefb80$@metrocast.net>

Hi Dave,

On my 9700 I have SATPC32 V+ (VFO Mode On) selected which allows me to tune
up and down the band with the radio's VFO knob and SATPC32 freq display
follows that and changes accordingly.  I also look for my CW signal on the
waterfall with CW+ (CW MODE ON) and use the up/down Cal to get synced up
then it's a mouse click to CW- to get back to SSB.  I'm a newbie but that's
what I found so far works for me.  

73 de Cal/N3CAL


-----Original Message-----
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AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:15 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 and SATPC32 linear tuning

Hello folks:

I just upgraded my tired FT-847 for a new IC-9700. FM birds are not a
problem but I'm wondering if someone has a good method of finding your
signal on the linear birds while using SATPC-32 revision 12.8d. The only way
I can vary the TX frequency is under the CAT Tuning menu Upl Calib field. It
seems to work but it's a bit clunky and not very quick. If I try to change
the transmit frequency on the radio it only gives me a few seconds then
reverts back to what is on the main screen of the PC. If I try changing the
receive frequency, the transmit frequency changes as well. Probably new
radio operator error but I would appreciate any suggestions.

 

Thanks//Dave WB9YIG 

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From n8fgv at usa.net  Tue Jul  2 04:06:27 2019
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 00:06:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2019 AMSAT Symposium Call for Papers
Message-ID: <495XgBeFb0496Set.1562040387@web03.cms.usa.net>

This is the first call for papers for the 2019 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and
Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of October 18 - 20 at The Hilton
Arlington, 950 North Stafford Street, Arlington, Virginia. Proposals for
papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any
topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative
title of your presentation as soon as possible, with final copy to be
submitted by September 23rd for inclusion in the printed proceedings.
Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv(at)amsat.org
 
73,
Dan Schultz  N8FGV






From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Tue Jul  2 13:57:57 2019
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:57:57 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 and SATPC32 linear tuning
In-Reply-To: <DC9CA80837AA42569A12984B49F617D7@DavePC>
References: <DC9CA80837AA42569A12984B49F617D7@DavePC>
Message-ID: <f8ce0e15-b681-9493-347e-2bb0e22931c9@t-online.de>

Dave,
the "Uplink Calibration" feature has been unchanged for at least 15 
years, hi. You are right, the calibration has to be done via the "Upl. 
Calibr." controls in menu "CAT" (the FT-847 is the only radio that 
allows uplink calibration additionally by its Sub VFO knob). The program 
does not cancel the uplink corrections you made "after a few seonds" but 
continues with the changes until the program is shut down. Of course, it 
continues with Doppler correction but on the base of the new uplink 
frequeny.
Track an SSB sat - say FO-29 ' . Then correct the uplink frequency in 
menu CAT until you hear your own signal with the best audio pitch. Then 
click "Change/Store Data file" and then "Uplink Calibration". That will 
save the changes in Doppler.SQF (watch the frequency list in menu CAT to 
see the modification). At the next program start you should immediately 
hear your signal with the right audio or very close to it. Little 
remaining deviations (100 - 300) Hz, due to temperature changes etc.) 
can then be corrected without new storage by the +/- keys of the 
keyboard (that works only if the main window has the "focus" = dark 
header line).
I tested the IC-9700 during? a few passes of FO-29. The audio of my 
signal remained constant during the whole passes without any corrections.

73s, Erich, DK1TB


Am 02.07.2019 um 04:15 schrieb Dave J via AMSAT-BB:
> Hello folks:
>
> I just upgraded my tired FT-847 for a new IC-9700. FM birds are not a
> problem but I'm wondering if someone has a good method of finding your
> signal on the linear birds while using SATPC-32 revision 12.8d. The only way
> I can vary the TX frequency is under the CAT Tuning menu Upl Calib field. It
> seems to work but it's a bit clunky and not very quick. If I try to change
> the transmit frequency on the radio it only gives me a few seconds then
> reverts back to what is on the main screen of the PC. If I try changing the
> receive frequency, the transmit frequency changes as well. Probably new
> radio operator error but I would appreciate any suggestions.
>
>   
>
> Thanks//Dave WB9YIG
>
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From w1pa at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  2 15:00:03 2019
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:00:03 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb]  IC-9700 and SATPC32 linear tuning
Message-ID: <SN6PR08MB479949780BA9E5CD46459BB698F80@SN6PR08MB4799.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

I run SATPC32 on a Win10 tablet portable with my ICOM 820H.
Make sure your clock and keps are current (sync immediately before the  pass)
On FO-29, you shouldn't have to move the TX offset more than +/- 1Khz to find yourself.
On my current tablet, it was +800Hz, on a previous laptop, -600. You're adjusting for PC clock tolerance,
temperature, location accuracy, and VFO accuracy.
Once you do, you can set that as a permanent offset so you don't have to do that again:
https://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2006-December/001991.html

AO-7 is much tougher, as some of the published doppler.sqf files are 3 to 4Khz off from reality
(your mileage may vary)

The XW's seem to be spot on, with little or no adjustment.

Bill W1PA

From aa8ch at aol.com  Tue Jul  2 16:43:15 2019
From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:43:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN75/76/85/86/87 rove
References: <1519525070.1262455.1562085795719.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1519525070.1262455.1562085795719@mail.yahoo.com>

Heading back up north MI July 6th.? Staying in EN85, will also hit EN86 if any requests.?
?May try to do EN75/76/85/86 corner /MM one of the days.?
?July 13 going to stay in EN76/VE3, with activation of EN86/EN87 planned.?

?Let me know if you need one of 'em.? 73/Chris AA8CH

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 20:36:19 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:36:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] K2J on 2019-07-02 - 2230 UTC - SO-50 pass
Message-ID: <CALn0fKP+OGwLdzOApfeqMhz09zphiqd9=iKwj2QNyeAKJHrfUw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I will be operating with the K2J callsign from FM05 on the 2019-07-02
- 2230 UTC - SO-50 pass.

This is a nice pass over the center of North America.

K2J is the North Carolina callsign for the 13 Colonies Special Event:

http://www.13colonies.net/

https://www.qrz.com/db/k2j

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From kdcarlso at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 22:46:49 2019
From: kdcarlso at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:46:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event
In-Reply-To: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG5zY2rfpbqRUp0GKf_HvCjUSoFWRjGX5QOtPY9Sy5rLH2gUHQ@mail.gmail.com>

I just finished listening to a SO-50 which I was going to try to work as
K2A if I could get in. I've only worked FM birds a couple of times before
and I remember it being busy but that was just stupid. I'll either try off
hours or stick to linear sats. Not to start something but man I hope we can
get some higher orbit linear satellites again :-(

Dave
N2OA

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Dave <kdcarlso at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be operating K2A this week as a representative of NY for the event
> and hope to work some of the satellites during the week from FN03. I'm
> still a newbie but I have a pair of eggbeaters up and can work the linear
> or FM sats when everything cooperates. I will post on the AMSAT-NA Facebook
> group and will use twitter @AMSAT when I know I'll be on.
>
> Dave
> N2OA
>
>
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 22:52:21 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:52:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event
In-Reply-To: <CAG5zY2rfpbqRUp0GKf_HvCjUSoFWRjGX5QOtPY9Sy5rLH2gUHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG5zY2rfpbqRUp0GKf_HvCjUSoFWRjGX5QOtPY9Sy5rLH2gUHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO7QWxyxGevMHyQWP0oMOZpFHSgk0vmMPqkABUxZWgK7w@mail.gmail.com>

I heard you at least once, early in the pass. I tried calling you from K2J
as that would be a fun colony to colony contact.

The pass was fairly hectic. Sorry you experienced that. It unfortunately is
not uncommon on FM passes, and yes, that is why some prefer linear sats.

I will say it is not always that bad and sometimes a lot of people will
make a lot of contacts and when it's really orderly it is actually
impressive to hear how so many people can share such a limited resource.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 18:48 Dave via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I just finished listening to a SO-50 which I was going to try to work as
> K2A if I could get in. I've only worked FM birds a couple of times before
> and I remember it being busy but that was just stupid. I'll either try off
> hours or stick to linear sats. Not to start something but man I hope we can
> get some higher orbit linear satellites again :-(
>
> Dave
> N2OA
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Dave <kdcarlso at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I will be operating K2A this week as a representative of NY for the event
> > and hope to work some of the satellites during the week from FN03. I'm
> > still a newbie but I have a pair of eggbeaters up and can work the linear
> > or FM sats when everything cooperates. I will post on the AMSAT-NA
> Facebook
> > group and will use twitter @AMSAT when I know I'll be on.
> >
> > Dave
> > N2OA
> >
> >
> >
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Tue Jul  2 23:15:06 2019
From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 19:15:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event
In-Reply-To: <CAG5zY2rfpbqRUp0GKf_HvCjUSoFWRjGX5QOtPY9Sy5rLH2gUHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG5zY2obXiDyWmgMxf-RoL2gx_fR9bHpY9bP2ut-Ga=tbx=ghw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG5zY2rfpbqRUp0GKf_HvCjUSoFWRjGX5QOtPY9Sy5rLH2gUHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003301d5312b$fd1c6930$f7553b90$@net>

Hi Dave, if we can get the 13 Colonies event back to where it was when we
had a solid 13 colony precipitation on the sats it will become a 'rare grid
level event' on the FM birds. I remember working 24 stations on a single
AO-27 pass from Delaware in 2012 and nobody complained! Hang in there,
better 13 colony things are coming...

73 Jeff kb2m
  

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 6:47 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies Special Event

I just finished listening to a SO-50 which I was going to try to work as
K2A if I could get in. I've only worked FM birds a couple of times before
and I remember it being busy but that was just stupid. I'll either try off
hours or stick to linear sats. Not to start something but man I hope we can
get some higher orbit linear satellites again :-(

Dave
N2OA

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Dave <kdcarlso at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be operating K2A this week as a representative of NY for the event
> and hope to work some of the satellites during the week from FN03. I'm
> still a newbie but I have a pair of eggbeaters up and can work the linear
> or FM sats when everything cooperates. I will post on the AMSAT-NA
Facebook
> group and will use twitter @AMSAT when I know I'll be on.
>
> Dave
> N2OA
>
>
>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jul  3 00:53:17 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:53:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 status DIGI and Voice are on
Message-ID: <9c0353db72303ce703e2c026d5ec86f8@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 has been enabled for Digipeating on 145.825 up/down.

Also the APRS-to-Voice feature is enabled if you send a packet in APRS
message format TO PSAT2-SAY and begin the message with CCCCCC sez speak
this?



Where CCCCCC is your callsign padded to 6 bytes with spaces and you must
spell ?sez?  which is the key word.  What will be spoken is ?CCCCCC sez
speak this ??



But DON?T EVEN THINK about it if you are not tracking Doppler on the
uplink.  You wont get in and will only jam others.  If you radio can only
do 5 KHz steps, then the only time for you to transmit is a few seconds at
max elevation when the Doppler passes through 0 offset (And you are
strongest then anyway).



DO NOT ATTEMPT any DTMF modes.  They are disabled.  They take longer uplink
times and will be quite jamming to others.



ALSO, because of all the APRS calls in space, FINDU.com and I are cleaning
up the links. PCSAT.APRS.ORG will now only capture USER packets and will
not be cluttered with satellite telemetry.  Find telemetry from each
satellite on this top-down page:



http://aprs.org/sats.html



Object number we now think is 44355 or 44354 that are too close to tell.



Bob, WB4aPR



*From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2019 9:02 PM
*To:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
*Cc:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Subject:* PSAT2 status (GREAT NEWS!)



PSAT2 is doing great!



PSK31 and SSTV transponder  have been on since launch.

SSTV downlinks are looking good.

See Gallery:  http://www.urel.feec.vutbr.cz/esl/psat2/sstv/

Still waiting for first report of user PSK31 contacts.



But I have not said much about the VHF modes? because we have had
difficulty commanding.  This is because the PSAT2 VHF uplink uses an
inexpensive narrowband XCVR module which is intolerant of overdeviated
signals, exactly what you get with +/- 3 kHz of Doppler.



ANYWAY, we can now consistently command if we set the Kenwood to narrowband
NFM and do it right in the middle of the pass.  Plus, we can extend that a
bit  (1.25 KHz after center) by then changing the radio step size to 6.25
Khz where the channel raster ups the channel by 1.25 KHz).



So, we now have command again!  You may have seen that we have turned on
Sun vector S#... telemetry and can easily see by plotting the 1 minute xyz
xyz xyz vector triplets that it is smoothly tumbling at about 1.3 RPM for
nice battery charging and good thermal management.



The downlink is live on FINDU:

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=psat2-1&time=1

Background:

This last 6 days of crisis was complicated by the fact that I am operating
in a temporary dungeon while the building is being renovated and all my  27
years of lab stuff is in 200 boxes surrounding me.  I installed a temporary
ground station on the top floor and modest antennas and a TV rotator and
the contractor let me drill a hole through the wall that they can seal up
later.  But the big problem is the 8 flights of stairs from my PC and
internet connectivity  in the dungeon up to the radio 6 times a day for
passes with only a few hours sleep and all kinds of what-if-dead-ends.  And
with passes from 10 PM to 2 AM.



But we are back in the saddle again!



And this good news reprieve is only an hour old, so it will take a while to
decide what we want to do next.  In any case, the Brno University PSK31 and
SSTV transponder has all the power for now, so enjoy.

Uplink USB on 29.4815 and downlink on 435.350 +/- Doppler.  The transponder
only comes up if there is a user in the uplink with PSK31.



Bob, WB4APR

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 02:10:26 2019
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 22:10:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 status DIGI and Voice are on
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYsP9qmTBWc6xDqBJeWk3w0OpLX5ZyKhaMQpUQWq_R+12g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bob!
Managed to copy my first SSTV image on 17 degree pas @01:45 UTC today.
Looks like its a image from the ROM of your desk. Also managed to copy a
PSK31 telemetry frame on 375hz: PSAT-2 A bDmk bBaalfvdpqjEar aaaa A bCph
bBamlkujpqjFak . No luck this pass in trying to bring up the PSK31
transponder and seeing my downlink, but this was my first attempt. I will
keep trying on 29.481.50. My SSTV image can be seen on my twitter here:
https://twitter.com/KE8AKW/status/1146238059698110465 . Also looks like two
stations were digipeated in the US on that pass according to FINDU
http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1 . Thanks for enabling
the digipeater. We cannot wait here in the higher latitudes to finally hear
and work PSAT-2!

73 - Nick KE8AKW

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 02:32:18 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 22:32:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 status DIGI and Voice are on
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYsP9qmTBWc6xDqBJeWk3w0OpLX5ZyKhaMQpUQWq_R+12g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYsP9qmTBWc6xDqBJeWk3w0OpLX5ZyKhaMQpUQWq_R+12g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZT2i=U-xp=TaLawtvFF+K+SsyQy62XMPqh=rfegtWGbg@mail.gmail.com>

Amazing job at only 17?, Nick - congrats!

Also on that pass there was some digi-voice which really caught me
off-guard... not something we're used to on the other APRS sats.

Still low on the horizon so it's not totally clear, but sounds like
"WD4???"   Here's that audio:

https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//files/2019-07-03--0145--psat2-digi-voice.mp3

-Scott,  K4KDR

=====================

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:11 PM Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi Bob!
> Managed to copy my first SSTV image on 17 degree pas @01:45 UTC today.
> Looks like its a image from the ROM of your desk. Also managed to copy a
> PSK31 telemetry frame on 375hz: PSAT-2 A bDmk bBaalfvdpqjEar aaaa A bCph
> bBamlkujpqjFak . No luck this pass in trying to bring up the PSK31
> transponder and seeing my downlink, but this was my first attempt. I will
> keep trying on 29.481.50. My SSTV image can be seen on my twitter here:
> https://twitter.com/KE8AKW/status/1146238059698110465 . Also looks like
> two
> stations were digipeated in the US on that pass according to FINDU
> http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1 . Thanks for enabling
> the digipeater. We cannot wait here in the higher latitudes to finally hear
> and work PSAT-2!
>
> 73 - Nick KE8AKW
>

From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  3 10:40:03 2019
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:40:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good SSTV picture from PSAT-2
References: <2048374121.1496592.1562150403072.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2048374121.1496592.1562150403072@mail.yahoo.com>

Near perigee, good picture from 03 july
<https://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/psat2.htm#a>
73 de Roland

From paulopv8dx at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 11:33:52 2019
From: paulopv8dx at gmail.com (Paulo PV8DX)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 07:33:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good SSTV picture from PSAT-2
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*FB *

73? de Paulo PV8DX
FJ92pt


Em 03/07/2019 06:40, Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB escreveu:
> Near perigee, good picture from 03 july
> <https://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/psat2.htm#a>
> 73 de Roland
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jul  3 14:01:03 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:01:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 status DIGI and Voice are on
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOZT2i=U-xp=TaLawtvFF+K+SsyQy62XMPqh=rfegtWGbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYsP9qmTBWc6xDqBJeWk3w0OpLX5ZyKhaMQpUQWq_R+12g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJCSnOZT2i=U-xp=TaLawtvFF+K+SsyQy62XMPqh=rfegtWGbg@mail.gmail.com>
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I sent that packet-to-voice message.  It was saying...
"WB4APR sez APRS to voice is working"

Though its too noisy after the sez...

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Scott via AMSAT-BB

Still low on the horizon so it's not totally clear, but sounds like
"WD4???"   Here's that audio:

https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//files/2019-07-03--0145--psat2-digi-voice.mp3

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Wed Jul  3 14:52:30 2019
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:52:30 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] A test question!
Message-ID: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>

Hi All,

I am preparing for a satellite talk and QO100 demo this Monday 8th July 
at the Milton Keynes Amateur Radio Society!

I have a slide that shows Oscar 7 as having been launched in 1974 and I 
am tempted to state that it is the oldest satellite in earth orbit that 
is still functioning! (not just the oldest Oscar) Would I be correct?

I will, of course, explain about how it was "out of service" for some 
years in the intervening 45.

many thanks

Graham G3VZV


From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jul  3 14:55:00 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:55:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] A test question!
In-Reply-To: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
References: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqnD4jkShhoPYDJGbx823C2--qfrVieNQLJ0QVPpU=qSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Graham,

There are a few older satellites that still transmit signals, but I
believe it is the oldest satellite in earth orbit that is still
providing a useful service.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:52 AM Graham Shirville via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am preparing for a satellite talk and QO100 demo this Monday 8th July
> at the Milton Keynes Amateur Radio Society!
>
> I have a slide that shows Oscar 7 as having been launched in 1974 and I
> am tempted to state that it is the oldest satellite in earth orbit that
> is still functioning! (not just the oldest Oscar) Would I be correct?
>
> I will, of course, explain about how it was "out of service" for some
> years in the intervening 45.
>
> many thanks
>
> Graham G3VZV
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 15:15:17 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 19:15:17 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] A test question!
In-Reply-To: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
References: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <1AFD74F9-C83A-438E-9BD5-2B511053019F@gmail.com>

Graham,

My first satellite contact was on AO-7 in 1978, I was 16 at that time. For sure it is the oldest Oscar still active as my last QSO is only a few months ago.

As you suggested, it would be interesting to find out if any commercial, military or commercial satellites have last so long as it may be an Amateur breakthrough, open question to all.

QO-100 is a fantastic opportunity for us for experimenting, as an example here in Mauritius LEO?s have very limited coverage we are in the middle of the Indian Ocean and only FR sometimes and ZS regularly on the air, the bird has open the opportunity for us to tests many modes as for example ATV which was inexistant here. I just hope that eventually we will have 2 additional GEO?s linked so that global QSOs possible on a 24/7 basis, just a dream, which may become true if we all dream strongly in the same direction.

Best wishes for your demo.

Regards



Jean Marc (3B8DU)



> On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Graham Shirville via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am preparing for a satellite talk and QO100 demo this Monday 8th July at the Milton Keynes Amateur Radio Society!
> 
> I have a slide that shows Oscar 7 as having been launched in 1974 and I am tempted to state that it is the oldest satellite in earth orbit that is still functioning! (not just the oldest Oscar) Would I be correct?
> 
> I will, of course, explain about how it was "out of service" for some years in the intervening 45.
> 
> many thanks
> 
> Graham G3VZV
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net  Wed Jul  3 15:54:20 2019
From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:54:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] A test question!
In-Reply-To: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
References: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <5f91190b-cb3c-793b-a6c6-ce8ea7e78da7@burlingtontelecom.net>

Hi Graham,

If you like, you could mention that AO-7 was commanded successfully for 
the first time after it returned on July 11, 2002. The Command sent was 
to change the speed of the CW beacon. It worked!!

Mike, N1JEZ

On 7/3/2019 10:52 AM, Graham Shirville via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am preparing for a satellite talk and QO100 demo this Monday 8th July 
> at the Milton Keynes Amateur Radio Society!
> 
> I have a slide that shows Oscar 7 as having been launched in 1974 and I 
> am tempted to state that it is the oldest satellite in earth orbit that 
> is still functioning! (not just the oldest Oscar) Would I be correct?
> 
> I will, of course, explain about how it was "out of service" for some 
> years in the intervening 45.
> 
> many thanks
> 
> Graham G3VZV
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of 
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

-- 

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

From WB4SON at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 18:50:14 2019
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 14:50:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] A test question!
In-Reply-To: <5f91190b-cb3c-793b-a6c6-ce8ea7e78da7@burlingtontelecom.net>
References: <2467c989-7117-9431-0f71-625bce912a8b@btinternet.com>
	<5f91190b-cb3c-793b-a6c6-ce8ea7e78da7@burlingtontelecom.net>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ-knMKYB-8LbSSvhouLWhJwR8v4RqvWWO47Uq-PiOK+AA@mail.gmail.com>

Lincoln Calibration Spheres were launched in the 60s and are still used
today to calibrate ground radar systems.  But they are entirely passive
(think very expensive hollow metal spheres).

GEOS-3 launched four years after AO-7, and lead a very active RF life up
until was decommissioned in 2016.  It is still in orbit and people use it
as a test for laser ranging devices -- again passive, and not as old anyway.

I believe that AO-7 is indeed the oldest satellite that has an active RF
purpose.

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:56 AM Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi Graham,
>
> If you like, you could mention that AO-7 was commanded successfully for
> the first time after it returned on July 11, 2002. The Command sent was
> to change the speed of the CW beacon. It worked!!
>
> Mike, N1JEZ
>
> On 7/3/2019 10:52 AM, Graham Shirville via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am preparing for a satellite talk and QO100 demo this Monday 8th July
> > at the Milton Keynes Amateur Radio Society!
> >
> > I have a slide that shows Oscar 7 as having been launched in 1974 and I
> > am tempted to state that it is the oldest satellite in earth orbit that
> > is still functioning! (not just the oldest Oscar) Would I be correct?
> >
> > I will, of course, explain about how it was "out of service" for some
> > years in the intervening 45.
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > Graham G3VZV
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
> "A closed mouth gathers no feet"
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From aj9n at aol.com  Wed Jul  3 19:01:59 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 19:01:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-03 19:00
	UTC
References: <881116085.1652487.1562180519069.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <881116085.1652487.1562180519069@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-03 19:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Santa Barbara Public Library, Santa Barbara, CA, direct via K6TZ 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Nick Hague KG5TMV 

Contact was successful: Wed 2019-07-03 17:54:19 UTC 49 deg (***)

?

Watch for livestream at starting at about 17:30 UTC: 

https://SantaBarbaraCA.gov/citytv2 

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-03 19:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-03 19:00 UTC. (***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 118 

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1322. (***)

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1265. (***)

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Wed Jul  3 19:17:26 2019
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 21:17:26 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LO 94 and the solar eclipse
In-Reply-To: <695a0b21-883a-b7c4-29a2-5c41a4107e23@xs4all.nl>
References: <695a0b21-883a-b7c4-29a2-5c41a4107e23@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <e83e8a43-508d-3629-32be-5bebddf8886d@xs4all.nl>


Lunar-OSCAR 94 successfully imaged the solar eclipse from lunar
orbit on July 2. The images were downloaded by BY2HIT and PI9CAM.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ifQaaXsAAGBwd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iDwjdUcAA8ehc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iNUXCX4AEzjmQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iGqg9W4AAT3ue.jpg

Also, the first complete two-way QSO via LO 94 took place on
July 1 between DK5LA and BY2HIT using WSJTX-JT4G.

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 29-06-19 15:18, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> On July 2 there will be a total solar eclipse that can be observed
> by the amateur satellite Lunar-OSCAR 94 (a.k.a. LongJiang 2 and
> DSLWP-B) from its elliptical orbit around the Moon. Attempts will
> be made to image the eclipse, where both the Moon and Earth
> should appear in the images.
>
> For details see these blog posts of Dani, EA4GPZ:
> https://destevez.net/2019/06/dslwp-b-and-the-solar-eclipse/
> https://destevez.net/2019/06/imaging-times-for-dslwp-b-eclipse-observation/ 
>
>
> Note that LO 94 is expected to crash onto the Moon's surface at
> the end of July, ending its mission. Until then you can still track
> LO 94 using GMAT and receive its 70 cm downlinks.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From graham at shirville.com  Wed Jul  3 19:35:45 2019
From: graham at shirville.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:35:45 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] LO 94 and the solar eclipse
In-Reply-To: <e83e8a43-508d-3629-32be-5bebddf8886d@xs4all.nl>
References: <695a0b21-883a-b7c4-29a2-5c41a4107e23@xs4all.nl>
	<e83e8a43-508d-3629-32be-5bebddf8886d@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <3e2261f9-9abf-1704-9827-441d8d2c57c1@shirville.com>

Amazing images Nico, congratulations and respect to all concerned with 
designing the SSDV protocol, the spacecraft, the integration and launch, 
the lunar orbit insertion and the operations including the all important 
groundstations.

73

Graham

G3VZV


On 03/07/2019 20:17, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> Lunar-OSCAR 94 successfully imaged the solar eclipse from lunar
> orbit on July 2. The images were downloaded by BY2HIT and PI9CAM.
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ifQaaXsAAGBwd.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iDwjdUcAA8ehc.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iNUXCX4AEzjmQ.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iGqg9W4AAT3ue.jpg
>
> Also, the first complete two-way QSO via LO 94 took place on
> July 1 between DK5LA and BY2HIT using WSJTX-JT4G.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 29-06-19 15:18, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>
>> On July 2 there will be a total solar eclipse that can be observed
>> by the amateur satellite Lunar-OSCAR 94 (a.k.a. LongJiang 2 and
>> DSLWP-B) from its elliptical orbit around the Moon. Attempts will
>> be made to image the eclipse, where both the Moon and Earth
>> should appear in the images.
>>
>> For details see these blog posts of Dani, EA4GPZ:
>> https://destevez.net/2019/06/dslwp-b-and-the-solar-eclipse/
>> https://destevez.net/2019/06/imaging-times-for-dslwp-b-eclipse-observation/ 
>>
>>
>> Note that LO 94 is expected to crash onto the Moon's surface at
>> the end of July, ending its mission. Until then you can still track
>> LO 94 using GMAT and receive its 70 cm downlinks.
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jul  3 20:02:14 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:02:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
Message-ID: <68aa885581cc62d5b223e4be00524dd3@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 digipeating and aprs-to-voice ops are working using the special
APRS-to-voice packet format.

But not both.  A packet with a digipeating path will not be spoken and a
properly formatted text-to-voice message will not be digipeated.  This is
a quirk of the TNC that for some reason does not pass a digipeated packet
out its serial port to the Speech CPU.

Also the 6 day watchdog timer is about to reset and will probably reboot
the spacecraft's comm system overnight.  We are letting this fail-safe
watchdog timer time out intentionally so we can verify it works.  Turns
out, the Speech CPU is sleeping longer than we expected and so it turned
into a 9 day timer!  We hope our command station in Brazil can restore it
tomorrow.

You can see the alphabetic watchdog timer count (y) as the first character
in the APRS-to-voice bulletin:

PSAT2>APDIGI,ARISS::BLNg-APRS:y|Q S T: This is the Aee PRS bullettin .

It turned to (y) sometime between 1400 and 1700z today and after (z) it
will reset (it is 8 hours per count)...

If you wonder about the spelling of this bulletin, that is intentional,
because it is intended that this bulletin be spoken.  We have found that
creative spelling can get the sound you want instead of what the
text-to-speech processor might come up with.  And remember,  for
text-to-speech, use lower case, or it will spell-out letters if they are
uppercase.  Hence "Aee PRS" is the correct pronunciation of APRS and not
"Aprs" that some people use <wink> ;-)

Bob, WB4APR

From martha at amsat.org  Wed Jul  3 21:20:07 2019
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 17:20:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID: <CAPk0USzxX1eDRp82pYbVt+-NHL3J4ansLx2F3UuoU9o+AORmKA@mail.gmail.com>

The AMSAT Office will be closed Thursday, July 4th and  Friday, July 5th

-- 
73- Martha

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 21:46:19 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 17:46:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
In-Reply-To: <68aa885581cc62d5b223e4be00524dd3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68aa885581cc62d5b223e4be00524dd3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnObmE+Bn+wY42sTz=3u=SSsyMWNwc+9C7Jy4ZooZnfZkgQ@mail.gmail.com>

>>> A packet with a digipeating path will not be spoken

Your updates are very helpful as we learn about the capabilities of this
new satellite - thanks Bob!

Regarding the text-to-voice, are you saying that we should not transmit
messages in that format to the normal 'ARISS' path?

If not, then what path should be used for text-to-voice messages?

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

==================

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 4:03 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> PSAT2 digipeating and aprs-to-voice ops are working using the special
> APRS-to-voice packet format.
>
> But not both.  A packet with a digipeating path will not be spoken and a
> properly formatted text-to-voice message will not be digipeated.  This is
> a quirk of the TNC that for some reason does not pass a digipeated packet
> out its serial port to the Speech CPU.
>
> Also the 6 day watchdog timer is about to reset and will probably reboot
> the spacecraft's comm system overnight.  We are letting this fail-safe
> watchdog timer time out intentionally so we can verify it works.  Turns
> out, the Speech CPU is sleeping longer than we expected and so it turned
> into a 9 day timer!  We hope our command station in Brazil can restore it
> tomorrow.
>
> You can see the alphabetic watchdog timer count (y) as the first character
> in the APRS-to-voice bulletin:
>
> PSAT2>APDIGI,ARISS::BLNg-APRS:y|Q S T: This is the Aee PRS bullettin .
>
> It turned to (y) sometime between 1400 and 1700z today and after (z) it
> will reset (it is 8 hours per count)...
>
> If you wonder about the spelling of this bulletin, that is intentional,
> because it is intended that this bulletin be spoken.  We have found that
> creative spelling can get the sound you want instead of what the
> text-to-speech processor might come up with.  And remember,  for
> text-to-speech, use lower case, or it will spell-out letters if they are
> uppercase.  Hence "Aee PRS" is the correct pronunciation of APRS and not
> "Aprs" that some people use <wink> ;-)
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:04:47 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:04:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnObmE+Bn+wY42sTz=3u=SSsyMWNwc+9C7Jy4ZooZnfZkgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68aa885581cc62d5b223e4be00524dd3@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJCSnObmE+Bn+wY42sTz=3u=SSsyMWNwc+9C7Jy4ZooZnfZkgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b68800ec39144384a26cf0c1fed3b1a1@mail.gmail.com>

> If not ARISS, then what path should be used for text-to-voice messages?

No path that the satellite recognizes, (not ARISS and not APRSAT).  Then
if the rest of the special "say this" packet is correct it will get spoken
if that mode is enabled.  You can tell if text-to-voice mode is enabled by
the X bit in the telemetry ....010001X1.

The latest firmware for the D72, D74 and D710 radios will now decode and
display the telemetry packet so you can tell the modes.

Or, just download the PSAT2 Users Operating Manual from the web page:
http://aprs.org/psat2.html


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Scott via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:46 PM
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)

>>> A packet with a digipeating path will not be spoken

Your updates are very helpful as we learn about the capabilities of this
new satellite - thanks Bob!

Regarding the text-to-voice, are you saying that we should not transmit
messages in that format to the normal 'ARISS' path?

If not, then what path should be used for text-to-voice messages?

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

==================

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 4:03 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> PSAT2 digipeating and aprs-to-voice ops are working using the special
> APRS-to-voice packet format.
>
> But not both.  A packet with a digipeating path will not be spoken and
> a properly formatted text-to-voice message will not be digipeated.
> This is a quirk of the TNC that for some reason does not pass a
> digipeated packet out its serial port to the Speech CPU.
>
> Also the 6 day watchdog timer is about to reset and will probably
> reboot the spacecraft's comm system overnight.  We are letting this
> fail-safe watchdog timer time out intentionally so we can verify it
> works.  Turns out, the Speech CPU is sleeping longer than we expected
> and so it turned into a 9 day timer!  We hope our command station in
> Brazil can restore it tomorrow.
>
> You can see the alphabetic watchdog timer count (y) as the first
> character in the APRS-to-voice bulletin:
>
> PSAT2>APDIGI,ARISS::BLNg-APRS:y|Q S T: This is the Aee PRS bullettin .
>
> It turned to (y) sometime between 1400 and 1700z today and after (z)
> it will reset (it is 8 hours per count)...
>
> If you wonder about the spelling of this bulletin, that is
> intentional, because it is intended that this bulletin be spoken.  We
> have found that creative spelling can get the sound you want instead
> of what the text-to-speech processor might come up with.  And
> remember,  for text-to-speech, use lower case, or it will spell-out
> letters if they are uppercase.  Hence "Aee PRS" is the correct
> pronunciation of APRS and not "Aprs" that some people use <wink> ;-)
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
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From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 22:24:29 2019
From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger - W7TZ)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:24:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Triplexers wanted
Message-ID: <CAEahN0J7wruxZJnPMWWep1d7vW3K6qQXNBgPud8sRoxv0-wxZQ@mail.gmail.com>

In need of three Diamond Antenna Triplexers model MX324. Condition must be
to spec. Please provide pic and cost shipped to 97457. Payment by Paypal
only. I'm good on QRZ, or my call via ARRL.net.

73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
Grid Busters
w7tz.webs.com

From SaguaroAstro at cox.net  Wed Jul  3 22:51:05 2019
From: SaguaroAstro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:51:05 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] LO 94 and the solar eclipse
In-Reply-To: <3e2261f9-9abf-1704-9827-441d8d2c57c1@shirville.com>
References: <695a0b21-883a-b7c4-29a2-5c41a4107e23@xs4all.nl>	<e83e8a43-508d-3629-32be-5bebddf8886d@xs4all.nl>
	<3e2261f9-9abf-1704-9827-441d8d2c57c1@shirville.com>
Message-ID: <000201d531f1$cf27a960$6d76fc20$@cox.net>

I echo Graham's Comments. Well done all, truly amazing images.


Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.W7TBC.org

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Graham Shirville
via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 12:36 PM
To: Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LO 94 and the solar eclipse

Amazing images Nico, congratulations and respect to all concerned with
designing the SSDV protocol, the spacecraft, the integration and launch, the
lunar orbit insertion and the operations including the all important
groundstations.

73

Graham

G3VZV


On 03/07/2019 20:17, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> Lunar-OSCAR 94 successfully imaged the solar eclipse from lunar
> orbit on July 2. The images were downloaded by BY2HIT and PI9CAM.
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ifQaaXsAAGBwd.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iDwjdUcAA8ehc.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iNUXCX4AEzjmQ.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iGqg9W4AAT3ue.jpg
>
> Also, the first complete two-way QSO via LO 94 took place on
> July 1 between DK5LA and BY2HIT using WSJTX-JT4G.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 29-06-19 15:18, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>
>> On July 2 there will be a total solar eclipse that can be observed
>> by the amateur satellite Lunar-OSCAR 94 (a.k.a. LongJiang 2 and
>> DSLWP-B) from its elliptical orbit around the Moon. Attempts will
>> be made to image the eclipse, where both the Moon and Earth
>> should appear in the images.
>>
>> For details see these blog posts of Dani, EA4GPZ:
>> https://destevez.net/2019/06/dslwp-b-and-the-solar-eclipse/
>>
https://destevez.net/2019/06/imaging-times-for-dslwp-b-eclipse-observation/ 
>>
>>
>> Note that LO 94 is expected to crash onto the Moon's surface at
>> the end of July, ending its mission. Until then you can still track
>> LO 94 using GMAT and receive its 70 cm downlinks.
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>
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From salahabd11 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 00:04:15 2019
From: salahabd11 at gmail.com (Abdeslam Salah)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 01:04:15 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Type of modulation used by Kenwood Th-d7
Message-ID: <CAPuB=R2E0WPGwUuYSpD1cKJEiw7UVzSzDwBXqWzS2zYXF_srNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everybody
Can anyone tell me what kind of RF modulation used by Kenwood Th-d7.
Regards

From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 02:25:16 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 22:25:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Type of modulation used by Kenwood Th-d7
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sg2x9vW4Z1Xne1d5WGiUZETyCAC5fc9z0CG+040rSkeA@mail.gmail.com>

FM?

APRS is AX.25 1200AFSK

Is that what you are looking for?

--Roy
K3RLD



> Hi everybody
> Can anyone tell me what kind of RF modulation used by Kenwood Th-d7.
> Regards

From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 02:50:09 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 22:50:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sKxM03NWqMmrEr+12MtskA_PLiojzi=HS=pvc=s1uf3g@mail.gmail.com>

https://clyp.it/fesdanzt

I can make out "K4KDR" in the first message, but not the message itself.
 Scott, what did you have it say?   I tried to make it say "Shall we play a
game", no dice.   Hopefully somebody can do that in the future.  :)

--Roy


> Your updates are very helpful as we learn about the capabilities of this
> new satellite - thanks Bob! Regarding the text-to-voice, are you saying
> that we should not transmit
> messages in that format to the normal 'ARISS' path? If not, then what path
> should be used for text-to-voice messages? Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 03:08:09 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 23:08:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2sKxM03NWqMmrEr+12MtskA_PLiojzi=HS=pvc=s1uf3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2sKxM03NWqMmrEr+12MtskA_PLiojzi=HS=pvc=s1uf3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOb6UFOFD1LAGvystES6RJTH6un674jYtBY+y39iiqYefg@mail.gmail.com>

I just replied to the thread on QRZ.com with some additional info from
tonight's passes.

That first digi-talker activation was "7 3 7 3".  I posted a couple of
tweets for anyone who might be interested in some screen shots & settings
that worked for me.  On the 0147 UTC pass I even managed to get a regular
APRS position packet digipeated.

Here are those tweets w/ screen shots and links to the digi-talker audio:

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1146575878073257985

-and-

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1146601381463281664

73!

-Scott,  K4KDR

====================

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:51 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> https://clyp.it/fesdanzt
>
> I can make out "K4KDR" in the first message, but not the message itself.
>  Scott, what did you have it say?   I tried to make it say "Shall we play a
> game", no dice.   Hopefully somebody can do that in the future.  :)
>
> --Roy
>
>
> > Your updates are very helpful as we learn about the capabilities of this
> > new satellite - thanks Bob! Regarding the text-to-voice, are you saying
> > that we should not transmit
> > messages in that format to the normal 'ARISS' path? If not, then what
> path
> > should be used for text-to-voice messages? Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jul  4 03:15:01 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 23:15:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOb6UFOFD1LAGvystES6RJTH6un674jYtBY+y39iiqYefg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2sKxM03NWqMmrEr+12MtskA_PLiojzi=HS=pvc=s1uf3g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJCSnOb6UFOFD1LAGvystES6RJTH6un674jYtBY+y39iiqYefg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNJN-40FmWJOFxLGjftVmn3LOL_RoXyC3sY5wkamJqE_TA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, so much for how it pronounces "now".  Fell free to try other
spellings to get the sound right.  Try "nahow", etc...
That's why I had to spell APRS as Aee P RS...

Bob

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:08 PM Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I just replied to the thread on QRZ.com with some additional info from
> tonight's passes.
>
> That first digi-talker activation was "7 3 7 3".  I posted a couple of
> tweets for anyone who might be interested in some screen shots & settings
> that worked for me.  On the 0147 UTC pass I even managed to get a regular
> APRS position packet digipeated.
>
> Here are those tweets w/ screen shots and links to the digi-talker audio:
>
> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1146575878073257985
>
> -and-
>
> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1146601381463281664
>
> 73!
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
>
> ====================
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:51 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > https://clyp.it/fesdanzt
> >
> > I can make out "K4KDR" in the first message, but not the message itself.
> >  Scott, what did you have it say?   I tried to make it say "Shall we
> play a
> > game", no dice.   Hopefully somebody can do that in the future.  :)
> >
> > --Roy
> >
> >
> > > Your updates are very helpful as we learn about the capabilities of
> this
> > > new satellite - thanks Bob! Regarding the text-to-voice, are you saying
> > > that we should not transmit
> > > messages in that format to the normal 'ARISS' path? If not, then what
> > path
> > > should be used for text-to-voice messages? Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR
> >
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 03:25:50 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 23:25:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings!

Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.

Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated thru
that satellite.  At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at the
exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.   Armed with seeing that
repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
but it did not.

So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.  Following Bob's (WB4APR)
recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1 as
well.  I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.

Boom.  Got digipeated left and right.  Well before and after closest
approach, I got digipeated.  I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough to
see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
deployment.

If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.

It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so I
hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
digipeater.

73,

-Scott,  K4KDR

From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  4 03:38:22 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 03:38:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1287004293.2771978.1562211502168@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks for sharing! Is the new APRS radio on the ISS also NARROW-FM? I have heard people mention something similar.
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Greetings!

Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.

Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated thru
that satellite.? At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at the
exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.? Armed with seeing that
repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
but it did not.

So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.? Following Bob's (WB4APR)
recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1 as
well.? I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.

Boom.? Got digipeated left and right.? Well before and after closest
approach, I got digipeated.? I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough to
see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
deployment.

If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.

It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so I
hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
digipeater.

73,

-Scott,? K4KDR
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From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  4 03:50:05 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 03:50:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Random Though -- when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
Could this produce:
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
Then:
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*:HELLO WORLD!
Next:
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*,qAR,N6DAN-1:HELLO WORLD!
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Greetings!

Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.

Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated thru
that satellite.? At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at the
exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.? Armed with seeing that
repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
but it did not.

So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.? Following Bob's (WB4APR)
recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1 as
well.? I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.

Boom.? Got digipeated left and right.? Well before and after closest
approach, I got digipeated.? I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough to
see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
deployment.

If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.

It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so I
hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
digipeater.

73,

-Scott,? K4KDR
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From ki7unj at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 03:57:07 2019
From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:57:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats
In-Reply-To: <1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes, it can be done...

http://aprs.org/pcsat.html search for the word "double" on that page and
you will see some references to it being done

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:51 PM Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Random Though -- when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your
> APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?
> KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
> Could this produce:
> KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
> Then:
> KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*:HELLO WORLD!
> Next:
> KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*,qAR,N6DAN-1:HELLO WORLD!
> 73
> Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.
> http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
> . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
> Exploration
>
>
>     On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  Greetings!
>
> Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.
>
> Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated thru
> that satellite.  At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at the
> exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.  Armed with seeing that
> repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
> but it did not.
>
> So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
> AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.  Following Bob's (WB4APR)
> recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
> the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1 as
> well.  I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.
>
> Boom.  Got digipeated left and right.  Well before and after closest
> approach, I got digipeated.  I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
> of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough to
> see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
> deployment.
>
> If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
> like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.
>
> It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so I
> hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
> digipeater.
>
> 73,
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
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From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  4 04:02:46 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 04:02:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats
In-Reply-To: <CAPFr_Uk0uvmvk-hyYJSQuSu5RQr2mSv=Aga8S-ghSy_dcbD5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAPFr_Uk0uvmvk-hyYJSQuSu5RQr2mSv=Aga8S-ghSy_dcbD5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1519481495.2794018.1562212966013@mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Thanks for sharing!
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:57:20 PM PDT, KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Yes, it can be done...
http://aprs.org/pcsat.html?search for the word "double" on that page and you will see some references to it being done?

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:51 PM Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

Random Though -- when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
Could this produce:
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
Then:
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*:HELLO WORLD!
Next:
KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*,qAR,N6DAN-1:HELLO WORLD!
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration


? ? On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:? 

?Greetings!

Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.

Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated thru
that satellite.? At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at the
exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.? Armed with seeing that
repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
but it did not.

So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.? Following Bob's (WB4APR)
recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1 as
well.? I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.

Boom.? Got digipeated left and right.? Well before and after closest
approach, I got digipeated.? I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough to
see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
deployment.

If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.

It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so I
hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
digipeater.

73,

-Scott,? K4KDR
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 04:04:17 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 00:04:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats
In-Reply-To: <1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <60C6C9791DAF405EB87B66F11235A23E@CSI9020>

That?s been a goal of mine for quite a while, Robert.  It?s a long-shot, but 
that?s what makes it a nice challenge.

My technique is to always transmit using the digipeater path ?ARISS, ARISS?.

Please note the result of that when digipeated via the ISS, for example:

---------------------------
20190703145345 : K4KDR-6]CQ,RS0ISS*,ARISS,qAR,KK4NAM::N1RCN :Heard you via 
ISS in Montpelier, VA FM17es
---------------------------

... the ISS accepts "ARISS" as a valid path and digipeats it back down as 
evidenced by the "RS0ISS*" address.  But you'll notice that my second 
"ARISS" stays on the packet.  So, if ANOTHER satellite hears that 
transmission from the ISS and sees "ARISS" in the path, it should happily 
digipeat it as well.

So, I have no idea if I'll ever get a double-hop, but at least with more 
APRS-capable satellites going into orbit, the odds improve bit-by-bit.

-Scott,  K4KDR

============================





From: Robert MacHale
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 11:50 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org ; Scott
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Turned the corner on AISAT-1 APRS digipeats

Random Though -- when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your APRS 
packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?

KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!

Could this produce:

KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!

Then:

KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*:HELLO WORLD!

Next:

KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*,qAR,N6DAN-1:HELLO WORLD!

73

Robert MacHale
. KE6BLR Ham Radio License
. http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space 
Exploration



On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:


Greetings!

Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.

Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated thru
that satellite.  At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at the
exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.  Armed with seeing that
repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
but it did not.

So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.  Following Bob's (WB4APR)
recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1 as
well.  I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.

Boom.  Got digipeated left and right.  Well before and after closest
approach, I got digipeated.  I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough to
see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
deployment.

If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.

It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so I
hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
digipeater.

73,

-Scott,  K4KDR 


From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 05:36:55 2019
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 01:36:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Status and Voice Ops (and reset)
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYuDV=L38BY7QMgbCVtMoV-uKb8C7ANUw+n_zFN1Uhnhsw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Heres more SSTV from PSAT-2 from tonights 01:43 and 00:05 UTC passes. Also
got a few PSK31 telemetry frames again on 375hz: PSAT-2 A cbjF
bBagjovgpqkaaq aaaa A cbjz bBadkgvmpqjEaot .  Heard Scott testing the APRS
to Voice several times sucessfully on 145.825. Still no luck on bringing up
the PSK31 transponder. Max elevation tonight was 19 degrees! Images can be
seen here from tonight:
https://twitter.com/KE8AKW/status/1146653199966842880

73 - Nick KE8AKW

From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Thu Jul  4 11:40:23 2019
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate- Server and Port Information
References: <1714713477.2909541.1562240423051.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1714713477.2909541.1562240423051@mail.yahoo.com>

All,
I want to turn on the APRS satgate at my station. Installed UISS Satgate ver2.0 and trying to connect to satgate.aprsca.net using port 14850 but unable to connect. I have checked the AVG firewall in the PC and nothing is blocking this application. Also have tried port forwarding in the router but still unable to connect. I am able to ping satgate.aprsca.net
Please share if there are other servers I could try for satgate.
73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Thu Jul  4 11:55:14 2019
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:55:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate- Server and Port Information
In-Reply-To: <1714713477.2909541.1562240423051@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1714713477.2909541.1562240423051.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1714713477.2909541.1562240423051@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1674233810.2935238.1562241314410@mail.yahoo.com>

I found the APRS server list at?http://www.iw0urg.it/APRServe.txt?and now able to connect to?greece.aprs2.net:10152;Full feed
73
Nitin [VU3TYG] 

    On Thursday, 4 July, 2019, 05:13:07 pm IST, Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 All,
I want to turn on the APRS satgate at my station. Installed UISS Satgate ver2.0 and trying to connect to satgate.aprsca.net using port 14850 but unable to connect. I have checked the AVG firewall in the PC and nothing is blocking this application. Also have tried port forwarding in the router but still unable to connect. I am able to ping satgate.aprsca.net
Please share if there are other servers I could try for satgate.
73
Nitin [VU3TYG]
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jul  4 12:19:47 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 08:19:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS satellite dual hops
In-Reply-To: <CAPFr_Uk0uvmvk-hyYJSQuSu5RQr2mSv=Aga8S-ghSy_dcbD5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAPFr_Uk0uvmvk-hyYJSQuSu5RQr2mSv=Aga8S-ghSy_dcbD5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLQpQiYBCrxZg4Hx7fF5gxhrPQMEjU3o_726KWyRj7ShA@mail.gmail.com>

>> when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your
>> APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?

> Yes, using the ARISS,ARISS path.

But there is one other important condition.  And that is that the FIRST hop
must NOT be heard by any IGate!  If another Igate hears the first hop, then
that one will be captured first, and the second one will be rejected as a
dupe.

And now with so many excellent satgates workign, the chances ar small of
seeing it on the APRS-IS thought users in the foot print may see it.  So
if  you see one on your screen CAPTURE it.

Bob

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:57 PM KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Yes, it can be done...
>
> http://aprs.org/pcsat.html search for the word "double" on that page and
> you will see some references to it being done
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:51 PM Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Random Though -- when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your
> > APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
> > Could this produce:
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
> > Then:
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*:HELLO WORLD!
> > Next:
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*,qAR,N6DAN-1:HELLO WORLD!
> > 73
> > Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.
> > http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
> > . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
> > Exploration
> >
> >
> >     On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Greetings!
> >
> > Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.
> >
> > Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated
> thru
> > that satellite.  At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at
> the
> > exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.  Armed with seeing that
> > repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
> > but it did not.
> >
> > So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
> > AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.  Following Bob's (WB4APR)
> > recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
> > the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1
> as
> > well.  I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.
> >
> > Boom.  Got digipeated left and right.  Well before and after closest
> > approach, I got digipeated.  I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
> > of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough
> to
> > see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
> > deployment.
> >
> > If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
> > like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.
> >
> > It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so
> I
> > hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
> > digipeater.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From n4hf.philip at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 13:59:21 2019
From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 09:59:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite presentation - Madison County NC
Message-ID: <CAGdEbNaPvgF5D2btPXSv0EkXffwb1sYrvCkc97t7fO4LfTwaHQ@mail.gmail.com>

 I'll be giving a "Satellite 101" presentation at HAMARS (High Appalachian
Mountain Amateur Radio Society) ,Mars Hill, NC, on July 16 at 7pm

I may attempt  (a) demo(s)s, but I haven't looked at the available passes
yet.

Philip N4HF
AMSAT Ambassador

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Thu Jul  4 14:48:43 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 22:48:43 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
Message-ID: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>

Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get 
broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning, 
but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73 de 
Hans


From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Thu Jul  4 14:52:27 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 22:52:27 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail2
Message-ID: <41bf18fc-5dad-0e0c-a4b1-24e8c311d0d9@msa.hinet.net>

On Twitter I see successful decodes of telemetry and CW. I monitored a 
few passes, but either nothing heard, or I got a pulsating carrier with 
no modulation. I had passes both in sunlight and eclipsed. Are signals 
from Lightsail2 very weak and is my station too small to handle them? 
What can I expect? Who on this list has heard Lightsail2? 73 de Hans BX2ABT


From fredy at fredy.gr  Thu Jul  4 15:29:50 2019
From: fredy at fredy.gr (Alfredos (fredy) Damkalis)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 18:29:50 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail2
In-Reply-To: <41bf18fc-5dad-0e0c-a4b1-24e8c311d0d9@msa.hinet.net>
References: <41bf18fc-5dad-0e0c-a4b1-24e8c311d0d9@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <f0121e73-dbd8-e195-8f61-c1fa501d13c1@fredy.gr>

Hello Hans,

In SatNOGS we have several good observations[1] of LightSail-2 and some
of them with decoded data.

For now there isn't a norad id to describe fully LighSail-2 orbit.
However OBJECT A with norad id 44339 is the closest fit. For more
updates on LightSail-2 orbit/TLE or for the other satellites of STP-2
launch you can check this thread[2].

73,
fredy

[1]
https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&bad=0&unvetted=0&failed=0&norad=99973
[2] https://community.libre.space/t/4042/


On 7/4/19 5:52 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On Twitter I see successful decodes of telemetry and CW. I monitored a
> few passes, but either nothing heard, or I got a pulsating carrier with
> no modulation. I had passes both in sunlight and eclipsed. Are signals
> from Lightsail2 very weak and is my station too small to handle them?
> What can I expect? Who on this list has heard Lightsail2? 73 de Hans BX2ABT
> 
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From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jul  4 16:27:46 2019
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:27:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
Message-ID: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>

Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon. 

Steve AI9IN

From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  4 16:32:27 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 16:32:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS satellite dual hops
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNLQpQiYBCrxZg4Hx7fF5gxhrPQMEjU3o_726KWyRj7ShA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnOa1mwubCEamhFZXw3C9eXK-aj01DtzQy6V1keLN2kwoYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1275531622.2792431.1562212205417@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAPFr_Uk0uvmvk-hyYJSQuSu5RQr2mSv=Aga8S-ghSy_dcbD5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLQpQiYBCrxZg4Hx7fF5gxhrPQMEjU3o_726KWyRj7ShA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1818297312.2976246.1562257947681@mail.yahoo.com>

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for sharing!
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Thursday, July 4, 2019, 5:30:07 AM PDT, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 >> when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your
>> APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?

> Yes, using the ARISS,ARISS path.

But there is one other important condition.? And that is that the FIRST hop
must NOT be heard by any IGate!? If another Igate hears the first hop, then
that one will be captured first, and the second one will be rejected as a
dupe.

And now with so many excellent satgates workign, the chances ar small of
seeing it on the APRS-IS thought users in the foot print may see it.? So
if? you see one on your screen CAPTURE it.

Bob

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:57 PM KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Yes, it can be done...
>
> http://aprs.org/pcsat.html search for the word "double" on that page and
> you will see some references to it being done
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:51 PM Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Random Though -- when two satellites are in range, can you bounce your
> > APRS packet from Sat1 to Sat2 then finally to an iGate?
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
> > Could this produce:
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS:HELLO WORLD!
> > Then:
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*:HELLO WORLD!
> > Next:
> > KE6BLR>APRS,AISAT-1*,ARISS*,qAR,N6DAN-1:HELLO WORLD!
> > 73
> > Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.
> > http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
> > . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
> > Exploration
> >
> >
> >? ? On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 8:27:20 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >? Greetings!
> >
> > Being smart would be cool, but sometimes it's just easier to be lucky.
> >
> > Since the launch of AISAT-1, I have really struggled to get digipeated
> thru
> > that satellite.? At best, I could get in a single digipeat but only at
> the
> > exact moment of closest approach on a high pass.? Armed with seeing that
> > repeatedly, I thought doppler tracking the 145.825 FM uplink might help,
> > but it did not.
> >
> > So tonight (4-July UTC), by pure coincidence, there was a high pass of
> > AISAT-1 immediately following a pass of PSAT-2.? Following Bob's (WB4APR)
> > recommendation to use NARROW-FM on PSAT-2 (worked well), I thought "what
> > the heck", I'll leave my radio set on NARROW-FM for the pass of AISAT-1
> as
> > well.? I'll even doppler track the AISAT-1 uplink while I'm at it.
> >
> > Boom.? Got digipeated left and right.? Well before and after closest
> > approach, I got digipeated.? I didn't go crazy since I'm always so afraid
> > of blocking out other people on a simplex satellite, but I hit it enough
> to
> > see the night & day difference from what I'd been experiencing since
> > deployment.
> >
> > If it's in the docs somewhere I missed it, but is sure seems to me that,
> > like PSAT-2, AISAT-1 might very well be equipped with a NARROW-FM radio.
> >
> > It would be great to see if others find as much improvement as I did, so
> I
> > hope some folks will try AISAT-1 using NARROW-FM on the 145.825 APRS
> > digipeater.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > -Scott,? K4KDR
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>
> --
>
>
> Casey Tucker? KI7UNJ
> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
> http://bit.do/ki7unj
> <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug
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From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 16:35:08 2019
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:35:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
Message-ID: <5d1e2abf.1c69fb81.49585.0815@mx.google.com>

Yup, some passes can get pretty intense.? But others can be pretty mellow.? Don't give up yet.

John

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
On Jul 4, 2019 12:27, AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago) 
> reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after 
> Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of 
> handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon. 
>
> Steve AI9IN 
> _______________________________________________ 
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed 
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Thu Jul  4 16:40:34 2019
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:40:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnD4p=4QOrp_69r1pDYQyynzV62f9gPrvQA8NBd-gRKtSg@mail.gmail.com>

Weekends and holidays are brutal. Try to find a time that isn't rush hour.
--
Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:28 AM AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
> reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
> Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
> handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon.
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From stephennipper at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 17:04:56 2019
From: stephennipper at gmail.com (H. Stephen Nipper)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:04:56 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>

I like to do my work as it swings over Canada or is out over the Pacific.
They are a lot easier to work, when everyone and there dog is at a minus 1
elevation.  But still someday, I just shut it off.

Don't give up you will make some contacts. The other option for you is to
spend more money and get on the linear birds.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 10:28 AM AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
> reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
> Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
> handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon.
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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-- 
Stephen Nipper
Boise, Idaho
N7DJX

From nanrspm at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 17:25:35 2019
From: nanrspm at gmail.com (Tanan Rangseeprom)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 00:25:35 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] JAISAT-1 telemetry beacon downlink on 435.325 MHz FM 4k8
	GMSK
Message-ID: <CAMw-yOXg98C5N3=SHWQMtO7fqVm-zBGOrAkKVU1J41GFnKYXMw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear AMSAT Member,

We would like to inform AMSAT members that they should be able to receive
telemetry transmissions from the JAISAT-1 satellite which is scheduled for
launching on July 5, 2019 by a Soyuz 2.1b rocket at 05.41 UTC together with
the Meteor M N2-2 satellite and along with a total of 34 satellites from 12
countries. for live at link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDbhjv_2UNM

JAISAT-1 There is a telemetry beacon with a downlink on 435.325 MHz The
telemetry signal formet is 4k8 GMSK Mobitex or same dstar one Sparro and
iSAT (CMX990 Mobitex Format)
in accordance with the details from the IARU satellite co-ordinator
according to the following link:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=521

This is keplerian element from simulate orbit the following as below:
JAISAT-SIM
1 77777U 19001a   19186.41724769  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00015
2 77777 098.5564 148.1307 0015651 161.6334 118.6706 15.15099188000017

All amateur radio operators capable of receiving signals from the JAISAT-1
satellite are invited to send the data by email to: jaisatonetele at gmail.com
and the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand will have a SWL card to confirm
reception to everyone.

Sincerely and with respect.
Tanan Rangseeprom, HS1JAN
Project Manager of JAISAT-1

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 17:54:02 2019
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:54:02 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] LO 94 and the solar eclipse
In-Reply-To: <e83e8a43-508d-3629-32be-5bebddf8886d@xs4all.nl>
References: <695a0b21-883a-b7c4-29a2-5c41a4107e23@xs4all.nl>
	<e83e8a43-508d-3629-32be-5bebddf8886d@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <f6ee9387-a93d-b872-1cf0-f8e6ca1c68f5@gmail.com>

Hi Nico,

Thanks for sharing the image links. 

Has anyone from the LO-94 team submitted these images for APOD
consideration?  Amazing accomplishment.

Greg  KO6TH


Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> Lunar-OSCAR 94 successfully imaged the solar eclipse from lunar
> orbit on July 2. The images were downloaded by BY2HIT and PI9CAM.
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ifQaaXsAAGBwd.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iDwjdUcAA8ehc.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iNUXCX4AEzjmQ.jpg
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iGqg9W4AAT3ue.jpg
>
> Also, the first complete two-way QSO via LO 94 took place on
> July 1 between DK5LA and BY2HIT using WSJTX-JT4G.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 29-06-19 15:18, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>
>> On July 2 there will be a total solar eclipse that can be observed
>> by the amateur satellite Lunar-OSCAR 94 (a.k.a. LongJiang 2 and
>> DSLWP-B) from its elliptical orbit around the Moon. Attempts will
>> be made to image the eclipse, where both the Moon and Earth
>> should appear in the images.
>>
>> For details see these blog posts of Dani, EA4GPZ:
>> https://destevez.net/2019/06/dslwp-b-and-the-solar-eclipse/
>> https://destevez.net/2019/06/imaging-times-for-dslwp-b-eclipse-observation/
>>
>>
>> Note that LO 94 is expected to crash onto the Moon's surface at
>> the end of July, ending its mission. Until then you can still track
>> LO 94 using GMAT and receive its 70 cm downlinks.
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>
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From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  4 19:28:00 2019
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 19:28:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1415669041.3047105.1562268480057@mail.yahoo.com>

Also happens when roving rare grida or other special stations are on. 13 colonies dominated some passes this week.
Robert KA2CZU

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 1:07 PM, H. Stephen Nipper via AMSAT-BB<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:   I like to do my work as it swings over Canada or is out over the Pacific.
They are a lot easier to work, when everyone and there dog is at a minus 1
elevation.? But still someday, I just shut it off.

Don't give up you will make some contacts. The other option for you is to
spend more money and get on the linear birds.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 10:28 AM AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
> reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
> Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
> handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon.
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
Stephen Nipper
Boise, Idaho
N7DJX
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From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 21:04:32 2019
From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan al-Basri)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 16:04:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <1415669041.3047105.1562268480057@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1415669041.3047105.1562268480057@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAM4UQf1KYgzzqCrNoRAeidEE8iprSz+K6PGhh=Xiz9Vfum83aw@mail.gmail.com>

Patience. This is a particularly difficult day/time to get on an FM bird.

1. Holiday - Perfect for BBQ with Handheld and Arrow. So a Bajillion people
trying to use sats

2. Two different special events stations on

3. Rovers.

Be patient, pick your passes and you will do just fine.

Time your calls with the peak of your signal, it's an art and a science.

73, N0AN
Hasan


On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 2:29 PM Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Also happens when roving rare grida or other special stations are on. 13
> colonies dominated some passes this week.
> Robert KA2CZU
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 1:07 PM, H. Stephen Nipper via AMSAT-BB<
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:   I like to do my work as it swings over
> Canada or is out over the Pacific.
> They are a lot easier to work, when everyone and there dog is at a minus 1
> elevation.  But still someday, I just shut it off.
>
> Don't give up you will make some contacts. The other option for you is to
> spend more money and get on the linear birds.
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 10:28 AM AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
> > reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
> > Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
> > handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon.
> >
> > Steve AI9IN
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> --
> Stephen Nipper
> Boise, Idaho
> N7DJX
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jul  4 21:38:04 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 17:38:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <CAM4UQf1KYgzzqCrNoRAeidEE8iprSz+K6PGhh=Xiz9Vfum83aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1415669041.3047105.1562268480057@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAM4UQf1KYgzzqCrNoRAeidEE8iprSz+K6PGhh=Xiz9Vfum83aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMa=sF2oj8W_Nk7TNjMKwRB8z5UntihaNqE1ipVbFNmFw@mail.gmail.com>

Just worked SO-50 at 2000 UTC with my HT as K2J. It was mostly over
Canada and the Atlantic Ocean so I was able to get in easily.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:06 PM Hasan al-Basri via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Patience. This is a particularly difficult day/time to get on an FM bird.
>
> 1. Holiday - Perfect for BBQ with Handheld and Arrow. So a Bajillion people
> trying to use sats
>
> 2. Two different special events stations on
>
> 3. Rovers.
>
> Be patient, pick your passes and you will do just fine.
>
> Time your calls with the peak of your signal, it's an art and a science.
>
> 73, N0AN
> Hasan
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 2:29 PM Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Also happens when roving rare grida or other special stations are on. 13
> > colonies dominated some passes this week.
> > Robert KA2CZU
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >   On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 1:07 PM, H. Stephen Nipper via AMSAT-BB<
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:   I like to do my work as it swings over
> > Canada or is out over the Pacific.
> > They are a lot easier to work, when everyone and there dog is at a minus 1
> > elevation.  But still someday, I just shut it off.
> >
> > Don't give up you will make some contacts. The other option for you is to
> > spend more money and get on the linear birds.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 10:28 AM AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
> > > reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
> > > Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
> > > handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon.
> > >
> > > Steve AI9IN
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Nipper
> > Boise, Idaho
> > N7DJX
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From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  5 00:07:09 2019
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 00:07:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <2009099832.3103787.1562285229899@mail.yahoo.com>

 In addition to all the great advice so far, I think the answer (or problem) could be in the technicality of using the Arrow.? It has been mentioned in one of the AMSAT publications and few others, but consider this, if the arrow is in phase with the downlink, the arrow's uplink is practically out of phase, and you wouldn't be able to make it in.?? I struggled with this, until I started keeping the arrow just out of the null of the downlink, then everything was magical !?? Just another fun fact...? 

(LOS is my friend on very busy passes) 

73!Umeshk6vug


    On Thursday, July 4, 2019, 9:28:16 AM PDT, AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon. 

Steve AI9IN

  

From kk5do at arrl.net  Fri Jul  5 00:39:24 2019
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 19:39:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Submissions due
Message-ID: <5f2bb000-23fe-71f5-e772-8e2789d9a92b@arrl.net>

Do not forget if you would like your groups score included in the 2019 
Field Day summary, your submission must be made by 11:59 PM, Monday, 
July 8, 2019. We are running a little behind last years submissions. I 
even have our club in with our one contact. You do not have to have a 
lot of contacts, any amount is respectable. It is the ooo's and ahhh's 
that those watching said when they saw a satellite contact being made.

73...bruce

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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Fri Jul  5 01:30:40 2019
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <2009099832.3103787.1562285229899@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<2009099832.3103787.1562285229899@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C3374202-86BD-4548-B0A7-56793B7578DF@mrstevens.net>

Don?t get discouraged! The 13 colonies stations made it tough today. I had my 5w 817 and an arrow, and just had to be patient trying to make contacts for the Amsat 50th event on the morning passes. Not every day is like this.

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 20:07, k6vug--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> In addition to all the great advice so far, I think the answer (or problem) could be in the technicality of using the Arrow.  It has been mentioned in one of the AMSAT publications and few others, but consider this, if the arrow is in phase with the downlink, the arrow's uplink is practically out of phase, and you wouldn't be able to make it in.   I struggled with this, until I started keeping the arrow just out of the null of the downlink, then everything was magical !   Just another fun fact...  
> 
> (LOS is my friend on very busy passes) 
> 
> 73!Umeshk6vug
> 
> 
>    On Thursday, July 4, 2019, 9:28:16 AM PDT, AI9IN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
> Trying to get on the FM sats (e.g. AO-92 a couple of minutes ago)
> reminds me of the videos of people at BestBuy the day after
> Thanksgiving. Don't be surprised if you see an Arrow and a couple of
> handhelds going cheap on Ebay soon. 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Fri Jul  5 12:28:08 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 20:28:08 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Polysat CP9 heard
Message-ID: <d82e499a-da5c-5026-29bb-1a4e75f46fd2@msa.hinet.net>

Today heard around 1109 UTC, 437.509 MHz, from SSW, 20+ wpm CW ID (SSB 
mode) with call WI2XTB and a short data bursts (9600 baud).

Audio of the ID: 
http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/media/20190705_1109_437509-WI2XTB.mp3

There isn't much information on the web about this bird.

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Jul  5 14:17:20 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 09:17:20 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-04 12:04, H. Stephen Nipper via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Don't give up you will make some contacts. The other option for you is to
> spend more money and get on the linear birds.

You could easily get on the linear birds with an existing HF rig and an 
inexpensive transverter[1a][1b] for the uplink.

Downlink is easily handled with an SDR solution, ranging in price from 
$7 to $500, depending on how many whistles you want. The rtl-sdr 
dongles[2] are a cheap, easy path to get your feet wet.

If you are up for the challenge, building a 70cm DSB transmitter[3] is 
quite feasible. If you have an rtl-sdr dongle, you've got a spectrum 
analyzer to debug/tweak your design. There are a ton[4] of design ideas 
on the 'net. Don't be afraid to experiment. That's what this hobby is 
all about, and one only truly learns through error, not success.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

[1a] http://transverters-store.com/432_28mhz.htm
[1b] https://ubitx.net/2018/04/17/transverters-for-2m-and-70cm/
[2] 
https://smile.amazon.com/RTL-SDR-Blog-RTL2832U-Software-Defined/dp/B0129EBDS2
[3] 
https://www.qsl.net/va3iul/Homebrew_RF_Circuit_Design_Ideas/430MHz_SSB_TRX_JF1OZL.gif
[4] 
https://www.qsl.net/va3iul/Homebrew_RF_Circuit_Design_Ideas/Homebrew_RF_Circuit_Design_Ideas.htm

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 15:03:24 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:03:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMvw_-7ObT0Z0vtQEFrEMYXNc52wiXf7nPNwPkpYnZgXg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:20 AM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> On 2019-07-04 12:04, H. Stephen Nipper via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Don't give up you will make some contacts. The other option for you is to
> > spend more money and get on the linear birds.
>
> You could easily get on the linear birds with an existing HF rig and an
> inexpensive transverter[1a][1b] for the uplink.

Eh, what you describe might be inexpensive, but I wouldn't call that
easy. I already find it a pain to throw my 910H on top of my car and
connect everything to it and be anchored to my car. I much prefer my
FM setup which hangs on my shoulders and requires minimal connections.

What you describe has a LOT of components: HF radio, transverter, SDR,
computer, and all the cables required to connect all that together.
All to be assembled every time you want to operate, and disassembled
afterwards. Unless you're assuming some sort of base station, but then
what inexpensive/simple antennas will he use?

If he already has an Icom IC-706MKIIG, Yaesu FT-857D, FT-817, or
something similar, he could at least do half duplex linear, and if he
also has a Kenwood TH-D74, TH-F6A, or some other HT with VHF/UHF SSB
RX, he could do full duplex, with a lot less components. Even a 706
MKIIG + an SDR would be less complicated than the HF+transverter+SDR
setup you suggest.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Jul  5 15:05:40 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:05:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMvw_-7ObT0Z0vtQEFrEMYXNc52wiXf7nPNwPkpYnZgXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>
	<CALn0fKMvw_-7ObT0Z0vtQEFrEMYXNc52wiXf7nPNwPkpYnZgXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e14dc51d-d972-4025-e111-b57b54ed426a@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-05 10:03, John Brier wrote:
> Eh, what you describe might be inexpensive, but I wouldn't call that
> easy. 

Cheap, easy, fast. Pick any two. :-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From kb2m at arrl.net  Fri Jul  5 16:57:06 2019
From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 12:57:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD with DXLab on sats
Message-ID: <000901d53352$ae05fae0$0a11f0a0$@net>

Has anyone on here use HRD with DXLab to work and log satellite contacts
using the HRD to DXLab bridge? I'm trying to integrate an IC-9700 into my
daily use sat setup, replacing SatPC32 and DXLab. I'm trying to get
something that's more integrated  then what I'm now using and the bridged
HRD and DXLab look promising. Anyone doing this? Anyone interested in doing
this?

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 17:52:22 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:52:22 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Technical Handbook for Satellite Monitoring - available
	for cost of shipping!
Message-ID: <CACvjz2U93sUXs5tvaTf=b1M9=vMo44VT-YbF=t41i9Sf1V3o=w@mail.gmail.com>

I have an extra copy of the 2017 edition of Roland Proesch's Technical
Handbook for Satellite Monitoring and I would like to give it away! Just
setting shipping and it can be yours.

Here's a link to the 2017 version's table of contents:
http://frequencymanager.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Technical-Handbook-for-Satellite-Monitoring-2017.pdf

Available from now through Monday.
If multiple people interested, will pick someone at random!

I enjoy and use this book and want to find it a new home.

-Michelle W5NYV

From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  5 20:04:09 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 20:04:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Technical Handbook for Satellite Monitoring -
 available	for cost of shipping!
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2U93sUXs5tvaTf=b1M9=vMo44VT-YbF=t41i9Sf1V3o=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACvjz2U93sUXs5tvaTf=b1M9=vMo44VT-YbF=t41i9Sf1V3o=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1556478771.3458764.1562357049396@mail.yahoo.com>

I would love a copy!
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Friday, July 5, 2019, 10:57:07 AM PDT, Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I have an extra copy of the 2017 edition of Roland Proesch's Technical
Handbook for Satellite Monitoring and I would like to give it away! Just
setting shipping and it can be yours.

Here's a link to the 2017 version's table of contents:
http://frequencymanager.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Technical-Handbook-for-Satellite-Monitoring-2017.pdf

Available from now through Monday.
If multiple people interested, will pick someone at random!

I enjoy and use this book and want to find it a new home.

-Michelle W5NYV
_______________________________________________
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From george.carrii15 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 20:51:47 2019
From: george.carrii15 at gmail.com (george.carrii15)
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:51:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Please help an old ham, but new to hamsats!
Message-ID: <5d1fb866.1c69fb81.1cc41.7ea0@mx.google.com>

WO5W has an Alinco??DJ-G7T and needs help setting it up for the hamsats.Can anyone help him? I have no knowledge of that rig and an trying to Elmer him from afar.Please email him and offer help.Tnx73GeorgeWA5KBHSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul  5 21:34:39 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:34:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FInding Nemo (er... USNAP1)
Message-ID: <581a4088a04ce0a714dae4778582fe30@mail.gmail.com>

Norad has added another object very close to the two objects we are
tracking (one of which is PSAT2).

The new one is 44375

It is slightly behind 44354 and 44355.
If one of those three is USNAP1, then PSAT2 has to be behind it.
So PSAT2 could be either 44354 or 44375 maybe.

Proof?
Bob, WB4APR

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Sat Jul  6 01:26:49 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 09:26:49 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>

Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the same. We 
have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV seen at 
all. --Hans BX2ABT


On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get 
> broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning, 
> but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73 
> de Hans
>
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 01:42:43 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:42:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOarZ5hjdQP81tVk3pmujkKHEDfEd719ufJZ38fMa48xeQ@mail.gmail.com>

There is quite a bit of detail on the possible modes of PSAT-2 operation at:

https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md

... so far, I've seen both PSK31 and SSTV in the 70cm downlink.  However,
at such low elevations I am not getting enough signal to determine exactly
what the current pattern of operation is.

However, on the 2m downlink (145.825), the activity has picked up each
night as the rising elevation makes PSAT-2 available to more folks.  Please
remember to transmit in NARROW-FM mode and if your radio has CAT control
and you can doppler-correct your uplink, better yet.

-Scott,  K4KDR

==========================

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:28 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the same. We
> have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV seen at
> all. --Hans BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
> > broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning,
> > but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73
> > de Hans
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sat Jul  6 02:15:31 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 22:15:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNK0cYAaC3w2i98b=P+D9DtZS8Jezi-ZMKE1ujC1br_fRg@mail.gmail.com>

SSTV operation is entirely bus voltage driven.  If there is plenty of
voltage, then SSTV will be frequent.  If it is dark and battery voltage is
blow somehing like 6.8? volts then it will not transmitt SSTV.  SSTV takes
a lot of power.
You can see the bus voltage as the firs channel in the T$SSS,VVV,III,
TTT,TTT,... telemetry.  Volts is in hundredths.

Bob

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:27 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the same. We
> have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV seen at
> all. --Hans BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
> > broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning,
> > but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73
> > de Hans
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of AMSAT-NA.
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> > program!
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> >
> >
>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sat Jul  6 02:59:26 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 22:59:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Ops Normal
Message-ID: <CALdCfN+ZHNYSkUM9RAes+M32fGWQm5Dygog32L8W4BroFVWOng@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 checks out perfectly.  We will leave it in the present mode for a
while.

That is, PSK31, SSTV (when volts are high), with Digipeater on, and
APRS-to-Voice is enabled.

PSAT2 is either object 44375 or 443354.  It is not 355.

Bob, Wb4APR

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Sat Jul  6 13:10:26 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 21:10:26 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNK0cYAaC3w2i98b=P+D9DtZS8Jezi-ZMKE1ujC1br_fRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
	<CALdCfNK0cYAaC3w2i98b=P+D9DtZS8Jezi-ZMKE1ujC1br_fRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <810134cc-5754-8f70-6b2e-bf5cfeb2acd4@msa.hinet.net>

Thanks Bob, that explains a lot. Yesterday at 1400UTC I did see some 
PSK31, but too weak to decode. So basically after 11UTC no need to try 
PSAT2 then. Cheers,

Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/06/2019 10:15 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> SSTV operation is entirely bus voltage driven.? If there is plenty of 
> voltage, then SSTV will be frequent.? If it is dark and battery 
> voltage is blow somehing like 6.8? volts then it will not transmitt 
> SSTV.? SSTV takes a lot of power.
> You can see the bus voltage as the firs channel in the T$SSS,VVV,III, 
> TTT,TTT,... telemetry.? Volts is in hundredths.
>
> Bob
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:27 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB 
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
>
>     Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the
>     same. We
>     have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV
>     seen at
>     all. --Hans BX2ABT
>
>
>     On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     > Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
>     > broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the
>     beginning,
>     > but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What
>     gives? 73
>     > de Hans
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>.
>     AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>     > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>     > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>     views
>     > of AMSAT-NA.
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>     >
>     >
>
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From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Sat Jul  6 13:15:39 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 21:15:39 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOarZ5hjdQP81tVk3pmujkKHEDfEd719ufJZ38fMa48xeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
	<CAJCSnOarZ5hjdQP81tVk3pmujkKHEDfEd719ufJZ38fMa48xeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f808cce-d5fc-70c3-dde6-f8df5f966880@msa.hinet.net>

Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that page, yet.

As for 2m: I have a nasty local case of interference here which wipes 
out 145.825 in most directions (local electronic billboard), so I'm not 
active with APRS.

BTW, what do you mean by NARROW-FM? I take it that it is the deviation 
of the FM signal, with narrow being 2.5 kHz, right?

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/06/2019 09:42 AM, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> There is quite a bit of detail on the possible modes of PSAT-2 operation at:
>
> https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md
>
> ... so far, I've seen both PSK31 and SSTV in the 70cm downlink.  However,
> at such low elevations I am not getting enough signal to determine exactly
> what the current pattern of operation is.
>
> However, on the 2m downlink (145.825), the activity has picked up each
> night as the rising elevation makes PSAT-2 available to more folks.  Please
> remember to transmit in NARROW-FM mode and if your radio has CAT control
> and you can doppler-correct your uplink, better yet.
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
>
> ==========================
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:28 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the same. We
>> have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV seen at
>> all. --Hans BX2ABT
>>
>>
>> On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
>>> broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning,
>>> but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73
>>> de Hans
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>


From ronnan at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 14:04:37 2019
From: ronnan at gmail.com (Ronnan Werneck)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 11:04:37 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 pass to NA
Message-ID: <CAP+GScWz1RKtcOU+h=TPz+hqU8zOvtdzNztiOU=t=xK4A1GA1w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I'm again in GH52dx, and I'll be on AO-7 pass to North America today
starting arround 19:21UTC.


Pse QSP.

73
PP2RON

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 14:31:26 2019
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 10:31:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 pass to NA
In-Reply-To: <CAP+GScWz1RKtcOU+h=TPz+hqU8zOvtdzNztiOU=t=xK4A1GA1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP+GScWz1RKtcOU+h=TPz+hqU8zOvtdzNztiOU=t=xK4A1GA1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8OueeK9tYrFKqVS45jPioc-A1EL0J7Y4fC-40CRSnYtDQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'd go try, but I fear that I will DoS the pass attempting to find myself...

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM Ronnan Werneck via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm again in GH52dx, and I'll be on AO-7 pass to North America today
> starting arround 19:21UTC.
>
>
> Pse QSP.
>
> 73
> PP2RON
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
73,
Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 15:13:05 2019
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 11:13:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <e14dc51d-d972-4025-e111-b57b54ed426a@pobox.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>
	<CALn0fKMvw_-7ObT0Z0vtQEFrEMYXNc52wiXf7nPNwPkpYnZgXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e14dc51d-d972-4025-e111-b57b54ed426a@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8NisG8UFGsOLUp9+T1Ab97UOZObmRG_o0ZKxyBAcWF0Qw@mail.gmail.com>

I use a D74 and an IC-7100 built into a man pack so it is portable and not
tethered to a fix spot or hard surface. There is a picture of my system in
this album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6IMFF4PjYb1c5HO2   I attach the head
unit to the straps of the backpack after it is on my back.

My Arrow holder for the RX radio (D74):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CHRaFDvYqwKkKLr87

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> On 2019-07-05 10:03, John Brier wrote:
> > Eh, what you describe might be inexpensive, but I wouldn't call that
> > easy.
>
> Cheap, easy, fast. Pick any two. :-)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
73,
Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Sat Jul  6 15:32:07 2019
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (k8bl at ameritech.net)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 15:32:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8NisG8UFGsOLUp9+T1Ab97UOZObmRG_o0ZKxyBAcWF0Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>
	<CALn0fKMvw_-7ObT0Z0vtQEFrEMYXNc52wiXf7nPNwPkpYnZgXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e14dc51d-d972-4025-e111-b57b54ed426a@pobox.com>
	<CAAJiE8NisG8UFGsOLUp9+T1Ab97UOZObmRG_o0ZKxyBAcWF0Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1467408269.3691163.1562427127311@mail.yahoo.com>

 Don,

Impressive set-up! Also, very impressive that you have the

strength to wield that assembly!!

GL/73, Bob K8BL

P.S. I have a spare IC-820H that sits on my tailgate when

 I rove and the Arrow sits on a tripod while I sit on my butt.
     On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 11:13:50 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I use a D74 and an IC-7100 built into a man pack so it is portable and not
tethered to a fix spot or hard surface. There is a picture of my system in
this album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6IMFF4PjYb1c5HO2 ? I attach the head
unit to the straps of the backpack after it is on my back.

My Arrow holder for the RX radio (D74):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CHRaFDvYqwKkKLr87

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> On 2019-07-05 10:03, John Brier wrote:
> > Eh, what you describe might be inexpensive, but I wouldn't call that
> > easy.
>
> Cheap, easy, fast. Pick any two. :-)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


-- 
73,
Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From rjlawn at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 15:34:16 2019
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 11:34:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD WITH DX labs
Message-ID: <CADQmrTEMMMb_ZxqHx9zwG+b0Nwyx_OV=b-byWhu+XGcELHmoBw@mail.gmail.com>

I?ve been following your posts both here and on the 9700 list as I just
bought one too. Haven?t even gotten it out of the box yet. Log integration
with satpc32 is an important issue for us to solve. I?ll keep an eye out
for those who respond in hopes of finding a solution.

73
Rick, W2JAZ

-- 
Sent from Gmail Mobile

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sat Jul  6 16:34:47 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 12:34:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <5f808cce-d5fc-70c3-dde6-f8df5f966880@msa.hinet.net>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
	<CAJCSnOarZ5hjdQP81tVk3pmujkKHEDfEd719ufJZ38fMa48xeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f808cce-d5fc-70c3-dde6-f8df5f966880@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNKE+tQvNz64FND_T_ZR=RSz1rRxq7YVLjqt5YowN_iHMg@mail.gmail.com>

I have not looked up the deviation for narroband FM, but just choose that
modulation method in the Kenwood Modulation menu.  It is either FM or NFM.
I assume NFM is what is the default in Europe?

Bob

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 9:15 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that page, yet.
>
> As for 2m: I have a nasty local case of interference here which wipes
> out 145.825 in most directions (local electronic billboard), so I'm not
> active with APRS.
>
> BTW, what do you mean by NARROW-FM? I take it that it is the deviation
> of the FM signal, with narrow being 2.5 kHz, right?
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/06/2019 09:42 AM, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > There is quite a bit of detail on the possible modes of PSAT-2 operation
> at:
> >
> > https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md
> >
> > ... so far, I've seen both PSK31 and SSTV in the 70cm downlink.  However,
> > at such low elevations I am not getting enough signal to determine
> exactly
> > what the current pattern of operation is.
> >
> > However, on the 2m downlink (145.825), the activity has picked up each
> > night as the rising elevation makes PSAT-2 available to more folks.
> Please
> > remember to transmit in NARROW-FM mode and if your radio has CAT control
> > and you can doppler-correct your uplink, better yet.
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> >
> > ==========================
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:28 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the same. We
> >> have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV seen at
> >> all. --Hans BX2ABT
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >>> Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
> >>> broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning,
> >>> but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73
> >>> de Hans
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >
> >
>
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 16:50:18 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 12:50:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I'll be activating FM13 in 50 minutes on AO-91 (1742 UTC)
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPzOz7mW6LCU3Dr2GJ0Ew2DxQ22B9mw6vKMD5GyEeSABA@mail.gmail.com>

What I said in $SUBJECT.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sat Jul  6 17:53:53 2019
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 12:53:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
Message-ID: <017901d53423$c71bb840$555328c0$@verizon.net>

So many newcomers to the FM Sats are put off by the chaos they here,
especially on the weekends.  Our success has led to this, which is at the
same time a bad thing and a good thing.

For those interested in making a first contact, or getting more comfortable
with the process, here is what I recommend to folks I talk to.

 1) Listen a lot first.  Get familiar with the process.  (Getting Started
with Amateur Satellites from the AMSAT Store is also great for this stage).
 2). Weekday passes, especially not in Summer are active but somewhat less
competitive.
 3). Overnight passes, especially of AO-91 as they generally are in the wee
hours of the morning when most of us are tucked away in our beds.
 4). For those on the east coast, Passes out over the Atlantic, as the
footprint will have fewer other operators available, thus lower competition.
 5). Central US operators should take advantage of west coast passes.
Except for California, way fewer operators per square mile which means more
room, sometimes.
 6). West coast operators should aim for passes well over the pacific to
again have fewer operators.
 7). Full duplex operation.  You may have to put a duplexer on each radio,
even using an Arrow with two feeds, to help separate V and U signals to
avoid de-sense.
 8). Low popularity passes help you learn the quirks of each satellite as
well as what procedures work best for you to hear yourself (Full duplex).
 9) Use proper phonetics to get your call/grid across plainly.
10) Enjoy the challenge.  Don't give up.

Finally, no one reading this email needs this last piece of advice.
Subscribe to this mail list.  It is a great learning tool.

73

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
EM12ms




From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 18:28:48 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 14:28:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>

It just worked/sounded as good as ever on the 1602 UTC pass (2019-07-06).

I was able to get in easily with 5 watts through most of the last half of
the pass. It was not fading in RX or TX capability at all like it was the
previous few times I worked it. This was a 72 degree pass for me.

Perhaps its solar panels were lit perfectly and maybe its RX antenna was
lined up perfectly for me... either way, I am impressed. I'll upload my
recording later but just wanted to put this out there as there were a ton
of WMPLOTA stations on AO-91 earlier... maybe spread the traffic out on
AO-85 some. At least when it is not in eclipse.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From marklhammond at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 18:32:38 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 08:32:38 -1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyr1TketOqPTm8PGT1A4hJV-nwV-LiYOA4=3J5xoS9bPJw@mail.gmail.com>

Glad to hear this, John.  Also consider its larger footprint, thanks to
altitude.  Has been helpful here in HI for those who are FM only.

Mark W3ZM/KH6 for a few more days

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 8:29 AM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> It just worked/sounded as good as ever on the 1602 UTC pass (2019-07-06).
>
> I was able to get in easily with 5 watts through most of the last half of
> the pass. It was not fading in RX or TX capability at all like it was the
> previous few times I worked it. This was a 72 degree pass for me.
>
> Perhaps its solar panels were lit perfectly and maybe its RX antenna was
> lined up perfectly for me... either way, I am impressed. I'll upload my
> recording later but just wanted to put this out there as there were a ton
> of WMPLOTA stations on AO-91 earlier... maybe spread the traffic out on
> AO-85 some. At least when it is not in eclipse.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Sat Jul  6 23:00:02 2019
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:00:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-188 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletin
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnA81=UaTOzpPzLPangwUuiQ7nbcW83YiHxZpkUhHsM4LA@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-188

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans

In this edition:

* 2019 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Update
* Candidates for the AMSAT Board of Directors Announced
* Frank Karnauskas, N1UW Appointed as AMSAT VP for Development
* First Ever Contact via Moon Orbiting Transponder on LO-94
* First Call for Papers for the 50th Anniversary AMSAT Symposium
* Take W3ZM on the Road!
* ARISS-International Delegates Meet in Montreal
* JAISAT-1 telemetry beacon downlink on 435.325 MHz FM 4k8 GMSK
* Additional Amateur Radio Payloads to Launch with JAISAT-1
* VUCC Awards-Endorsements for July
*
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-188.01
ANS-188 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 188.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE: 2019 July 7
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-188.01


2019 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Update

The 2019 AMSAT Board of Directors election will be conducted dif-
ferently than in past elections. In previous years, the balloting pro-
cess was handled by multiple vendors. This year, AMSAT has contracted
with a single, independent party, ElectionBuddy, to conduct and fully
manage the election process.

A ballot card will be mailed to all current members in accordance with
the organization?s by-laws by or on July 15, 2019. You may cast your
ballot by visiting a unique URL or utilizing the QR code printed on the
card.  If you do not receive your ballot, you will need to contact
ElectionBuddy.  ElectionBuddy will be responsible for distributing
ballots, collecting ballots, and tallying votes.

Individual candidates? statement of qualification (biographies) will be
published on AMSAT?s website and will be displayed on the ElectionBuddy
website available to eligible voters.

AMSAT believes this voting system will result in greater election
integrity as it removes the potential for any perceived conflicts of
interest. ElectionBuddy will manage AMSAT?s voter list and interaction
with members regarding the election. This ensures voter anonymity.
Individual ballot responses will never be shared with any volunteer or
paid AMSAT staff.

Because AMSAT has contracted ElectionBuddy for a fully managed elec-
tion, they will be voters? single point of contact regarding any ballot
issues. The AMSAT Secretary or Office Manager may direct you to contact
ElectionBuddy in situations deemed part of this fully managed election.
Questions will not be answered on the AMSAT-BB or organizational Social
Media accounts.

In the event that you are unwilling or unable to cast your ballot via
the online mechanism, ElectionBuddy will mail you a specific ballot
that must be returned to them within the parameters of our election
time frame so that it is received by the office no later than Sept-
ember 15, 2019. If you choose this option, please understand it is at
an increased cost to the organization.

Sincerely,
Clayton L. Coleman, W5PFG
AMSAT Secretary

[ANS thanks Clayton L. Coleman, W5PFG, AMSAT Secretary, for the above
information]]

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Candidates for the AMSAT Board of Directors Announced

The corrected list of 2019 candidates, in alphabetical order by last
name are:

Jerry Buxton, N0JY
Howard (Howie) Defelice, AB2S
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
Jeff Johns, WE4B
Brennan Price, N4QX
Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Michelle Thompson, W5NYV

This year AMSAT membership will select four candidates to the Board
of Directors. The four candidates receiving the highest number of
votes will be seated as voting members of the Board of Directors. Two
alternate directors will be selected based on the next highest number
of votes received.

Ballots will be mailed to the AMSAT membership by July 15, 2019.

The election closes September 15, 2019.

[ANS thanks Clayton L. Coleman, W5PFG, AMSAT Secretary, for the above
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Frank Karnauskas, N1UW Appointed as AMSAT VP for Development

The AMSAT Board of Directors has elected Frank Karnauskas, N1UW, Vice
President - Development This position carries the responsibility for
fund raising, marketing and public relations for AMSAT programs. In
addition to enhancing the AMSAT and ARISS brands within their tradi-
tional spheres, this position is expected to broaden the appeal of its
activities to a wider market. This includes the educational, corporate
and philanthropic sectors.

Joe Spier explains, "The cost of planning, building and launching
satellites has risen exponentially over the past years.  It is
essential that we not only raise the Amateur Radio community's
financial participation in these programs, we need to enlist the
support of outside entities.  We can only do this by demonstrating
the value that Amateur Radio satellites bring to society's best
interests.  This is especially true for youth and educational
programs where AMSAT's and ARISS' growth lies."

Frank comes to this position with a forty-five year career as a
sales and marketing executive in the consumer and industrial
markets. He was first licensed in 1963 and has been a long-term
member of AMSAT and the ARRL. Frank also contributes to AMSAT
as an AMSAT News Service Rotating Editor.

[ANS thanks AMSAT President Joe Spier, K6WAO for the above information]

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             2019 marks AMSAT?s 50th Anniversary
              of Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
           To help celebrate, we are sponsoring the
            AMSAT 50th Anniversary Awards Program.
                Full details are available at
    https://www.amsat.org/amsat-50th-anniversary-awards-program/
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First Ever Contact via Moon Orbiting Transponder on LO-94

Daniel Estevez, EA4GPZ, reported on the details of the first contact
via a lunar orbiting repeater that was accomplished via China's
DSLWP-B (LO-94) satellite.

EA4GPZ wrote, "In parallel [with the solar eclipse testing], the GMSK
to JT4G repeater onboard DSLWP-B was used to make a QSO between BY2HIT,
the Harbin Institute of Technology Amateur radio club, and Reinhard
Kuehn DK5LA. This is the first ever Amateur radio QSO made through a
lunar orbiting repeater. It was reported by Wei Mingchuan, BG2BHC."

Continuing, "Using the GMSK to JT4G repeater is not easy, in terms of
the signal power needed for the uplink. There were plans to make a QSO
between BY2HIT and Reinhard since many months ago, but previous
attempts didn't work out. My congratulations to the people at both
sides of the QSO, who have achieved it a month before DSLWP-B crashes
against the lunar surface.

"The GMSK to JT4G repeater works by sending commands to the satellite
which embed a 13 character message, using the same frequency and a
similar protocol to the one used to command the camera and other sat-
ellite functions. The precise definition of this mode is a 7.8125 baud
FSK modulation with a shift of 394.53125Hz. Each FSK tone is "spread"
with a 250 baud GMSK 32 bit syncword. The CCSDS 32 bit syncword is used
to mark the beginning of a packet, and a Reed-Solomon (64,32) code is
used for FEC, together with CCSDS scrambling. Such a message takes a
bit longer than one minute to transmit. The uplink is in the 2m Amateur
satellite band.

"The repeater downlink is the usual JT4G downlink of DSLWP-B in the
70cm Amateur satellite band. The 13 character messages sent in the
uplink command replace the usual JT4G telemetry, being repeated as
a free-form JT4G message. In the case of this QSO, the B1 radio at
436.400MHz was used. This radio was also used to transmit the images
using GMSK SSDV."

Access EA4GPZ's full report at:
https://destevez.net/2019/07/analysis-of-dslwp-b-eclipse-test-run-again/

[ANS thanks Daniel Estevez, EA4GPZ for the above information]

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First Call for Papers for the 50th Anniversary AMSAT Symposium

The 50th Anniversary AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space Symposium will be
held on the weekend of October 18 ? 20 at The Hilton Arlington, 950
North Stafford Street, Arlington, Virginia. Proposals for papers,
symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any
topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a
tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible, with final
copy to be submitted by September 23rd for inclusion in the printed
proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at
n8fgv(at)amsat.org

[ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information]

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Take W3ZM on the Road!

Leading up to the 2019 AMSAT 50th Anniversary Space Symposium and Gen-
eral Meeting, to be held in Arlington, VA, October 18 ? 20, 2019,
AMSAT?s call sign, W3ZM, will operate from all 50 States, the District
of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. Not only is this your chance to get
Worked All States-Satellites under the W3ZM call sign, but, also, your
chance to be a part of this historic effort.

Note:  When operating outside of the ?3? call area, operators will
append the W3ZM call sign with ?/(call area).? As an example, someone
operating from Texas will use W3ZM/5; from Hawaii, W3ZM/KH6; from
Alaska, W3ZM/KL7; and from Puerto Rico, W3ZM/KP4.

To make this happen ? We need your help! Please volunteer to get on
the air and activate your State, using AMSAT?s W3ZM call sign, as well
as to cover those States without an active AMSAT Member.  Activations
of other United States Territories (i.e. Guam, American Samoa, the U.S.
Virgin Islands, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands)
are also welcome.

To volunteer and operate using AMSAT?s W3ZM call sign, you must:
- Be a current member of AMSAT
- Obtain permission by emailing AMSAT VP of User Services, specifying
  the requested date(s) and location(s)
- Submit an ADIF log of contacts made for upload to LoTW by AMSAT, as
  instructed in your notice of approval to use the W3ZM call sign

Additional information and a schedule of operations may be found at:
https://www.amsat.org/events/was-w3zm/

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT VP of User Services, for
the above information]

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ARISS-International Delegates Meet in Montreal

Nine nations were represented as Amateur Radio on the International
Space Station (ARISS) held its 2019 ?face-to-face? meeting of interna-
tional delegates at the Canadian Space Agency in Montreal, June 26?28.
ARISS-Canada was the host for the gathering. A high point of the con-
ference came when Kenwood software manager Shin Aota, JL1IBD, present-
ed two Kenwood TM-D710GA transceivers to ARISS-Russia delegate Sergey
Samburov, RV3DR. One of the TM-D710GA radios will replace aging
Amateur Radio equipment currently in use on the International Space
Station, while the other will remain on Earth as a spare for training
cosmonauts. For more than a year, these radios have undergone detailed
NASA qualification testing followed by final software configuration
and verification.

?With today?s transfer of the radios to ARISS-Russia, we are one step
closer to an enhanced Amateur Radio system on board the ISS, support-
ing various operations such as SSTV, voice communication, APRS, and a
variety of experiments,? ARISS-International said in announcing the
presentation. The ARISS Hardware Team met on June 25.

Those on hand for the event included Radio Amateurs of Canada President
(RAC) and ARISS-Canada Delegate for RAC Glenn MacDonell, VE3XRA;
AMSAT-NA President Joe Spier, K6WAO, and AMSAT-Italia President
Emanuele D?Andria, I0ELE. ARRL Southeastern Division Director Greg
Sarratt, W4OZK, attended in his role as chair of the ARRL Board?s new
ARISS Committee. Rosalie White, K1STO, represented ARRL as an ARISS-US
delegate and handled the duties of ARISS-International Secretary. The
other ARISS-US delegate was Dave Taylor, W8AAS.

The French government?s proposal to consider 144?146 MHz for possible
allocation to the Aeronautical Mobile Service drew some discussion.
Other topics included ARISS? future participation in NASA?s Deep Space
Gateway (DSG) program. ARISS is the only noncommercial entity whose
ideas are under study by the program. The ARISS plan focuses on Amateur
Radio communication, including optical communication channels, as well
as equipment development, team cooperation, education, and public out-
reach.

Canadian Space Agency Program Manager of the Lunar Gateway Program Ken
Podwalski noted that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced
that Canada will go to the moon. CSA provided the ?Canadarm? robotic
arm for the space shuttle and contributed the Mobile Servicing System,
a sophisticated robotics suite that plays a critical role in ISS oper-
ations.

White and Taylor presented the ARISS-US Region Report, highlighting
many of the accomplishments of the US team since the last ARISS face-
to-face meeting.

Dave Honess of the European Space Agency presented some ideas for en-
hanced ARISS educational outreach. A future SSTV session to honor Owen
Garriott, W5LFL (SK), also came in for some discussion. Garriott was
the first space traveler to use Amateur Radio from space. ? Thanks to
Dave Jordan, AA4KN, ARISS Public Relations, and Rosalie White, K1STO

[ANS thanks ARRL for the above information]

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JAISAT-1 telemetry beacon downlink on 435.325 MHz FM 4k8 GMSK

JAISAT-1 was launched on July 5, 2019 at 05:41:46z along with a total
of 33 satellites from 12 countries.

The JAISAT-1 telemetry beacon is at 435.325 MHz. The telemetry signal
format is 4k8 GMSK Mobitex (same as Dstar one Sparro and iSAT CMX990
Mobitex Format) in accordance with the details from the IARU satellite
co-ordinator site:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=521

This is keplerian element from simulated orbit the following as below:
JAISAT-SIM
1 77777U 19001a   19186.41724769  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00015
2 77777 098.5564 148.1307 0015651 161.6334 118.6706 15.15099188000017

All amateur radio operators capable of receiving signals from the
JAISAT-1 satellite are invited to send the data by email to:
jaisatonetele at gmail.com
The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand will have a SWL card to confirm
reception.

[ANS thanks Tanan Rangseeprom, HS1JAN, Project Manager of JAISAT-1,
for the above information]

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Additional Amateur Radio Payloads to Launch with JAISAT-1

When JAISAT-1 launches in July from the Vostochny Cosmodrome it will
fly with additional amateur radio payloads, summarized below.

Berlin Technical University (Germany) Beesat-9 Coordination details at:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=657
A 1U Cubesat, BEESAT-9 is an educational, experimental satellite.
The main objective is to verify 3- axes stabilization using a GPS
receiver, reaction wheels and magnetorquers. A camera will take
pictures of Earth to verify the attitude of the satellite. A new
attitude control actuator, developed in a PhD thesis, will be first
flown on BEESAT-9. The operations of the spacecraft will be conducted
in lecture courses under the guidance of licensed radio amateurs.

The satellite will have a digipeater function to mirror a signal to
another satellite or ground station. Furthermore, it will provide a
beacon signal for radio amateurs, including telemetry. The amateur
radio community is highly encouraged to collect telemetry data pack-
ets, plans for special operations e.g. experiments shall be announced
to the amateur radio community on the Internet. It is also planned
to include the amateur radio community to receive parts of pictures,
which will then be put together by TU Berlin and published on the
Website and on social networks. proposing to use a UHF downlink with
4k8 or 9k6 Mobilex GMSK modulation. A downlink on 435,950 MHz has
been coordinated by the IARU.

BEESAT-9 Will fly with BEESAT10-13 and MOVE-2B. More info from:
http://www.raumfahrttechnik.tu-berlin.de/menue/
forschung/aktuelle_projekte/beesat-4/parameter/en/
https://tinyurl.com/ANS-188-BEESAT-9

Munich Technical University (Germany) will demonstrate their inno-
vative cubesat bus by launching MOVE-IIb. Coordination details at:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=645
A 1U CubeSat. Proposing a VHF QPSK 12k5 Bit/s downlink for telemetry
and mission data with a UHF uplink capability for a cross band repeat-
er. A downlink on 145,840 MHz has been coordinated. No additional
amateur radio repeater operation is available at press time. The IARU
release suggests to monitor for updated information on the mission
website at: https://www.move2space.de/

Tallinn Technical University (Estonia) - an educational satellite
TTU101 developed to test Earth observation cameras and a novel high
speed X-band communication system. Coordination details at:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=660
The mission of TTU satellite is to perform remote sensing in visible
and IR electromagnetic spectrum from 500-600 km polar orbit with 1U
cubesat for educational and technology demonstration purposes. Another
mission task is to test amateur 10.450 - 10.500 GHz band frequencies
for high-speed data downlink operations. Proposing a 435 MHz downlink
with data rates up to 9k6 GFSK/GMSK and also OQPSK downlink on
10.45 GHZ at data rates up to 20Mbs. Downlinks on 10460.000 MHz and
435.450 MHz with a beacon on 435.500 MHz have been coordinated.
More info at:
https://www.ttu.ee/projects/mektory-eng/satellite-programme-3/

Royal Institute of Technology KTH (Sweden) -  SEAM-2.0 scientific
spacecraft for measuring the magnetic field of the Earth.
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=584
A 3U CubeSat intended to test a deployable boom carrying miniature
sensors for measuring magnetic fields. A commercial S Band transceiver
will operate in addition to a UHF transceiver using 9k6 GMSK. A down-
link on 437.250MHz has been coordinated.

University of Wuerzburg (Germany) - SONATE, a cubesat for technology
demonstration, and orbital verification of various satellite compon-
ents and autonomous payloads. Coordination details at:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=572
The educational objective of this mission includes opportunities
students to build and operate radio communication systems of space
and ground segment systems. Such a system is the amateur payload of
this satellite, a transceiver which is currently built by several
students over the course of their theses. This transceiver will
initially provide regularly SSTV downlinks with images from one of
the on-board cameras. Other thesis for instance address the antenna
deploy mechanism. The following downlink frequencies have been
coordinated: 9k6 GMSK/GSFK AX25 telemetry 437.025 MHz and for SSTV
145.840 MHz

SkyFox Labs (Czech Republic) - Lucky-7 cubesat will demonstrate
innovative solutions for 1U cubesat platform. Coordination details at:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=452
In addition to radio frequency operation the satellite includes high
power LEDs transmitting in visible spectra (blue) to demonstrate EPS
high power handling capability. Also included is a Digital Color cam-
era module which will be used aboard the satellite to capture the
images of Earth to confirm ADCS stabilization functionality and
"high" data transfer throughput capability of the custom-built FSK
onboard radio. A downlink on 437.525 MHz has been coordinated for a
FSK downlink at variable bit rates up to 9k6. Data format information
will be made available at http://www.lucky7satellite.org

Additional launch information can be found at:
https://tinyurl.com/y39pxhel

[ANS thanks the IARU and parabolicarc.com for the above information]

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VUCC Awards-Endorsements for July

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the
ARRL for the period June 1, 2019 through July 1, 2019. Congratulations
to all those who made the list this month!

CALL 01 Jun  01 Jul 2019
      K5OE 1008 1079
      K6FW 794 801 Correction
      WD9EWK 550 567
      N3GS 454 525
      NS3L 457 475
      K9UO 351 400
      W5TD New 381
      MI6GTY 281 354
      KE8AKW 258 329
      W7JSD 279 309
      G0ABI 305 306
      AD0HJ 250 282
      KC9ELU 229 233
      AJ4A 225 230
      AB1OC 177 184
      N7EGY 100 169
      PU8RFL 157 166
      PS8MT 156 165
      AA8CH/N8R New 113
      KC9VGG New 102
      N6REK New 100
      WD9EWK (DM45) New 100

[ANS thanks Ron Parsons, W5RKN for the above information]

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

Hawaii (BL20) ? July 5-8, 2019
Mark, N8MH will be operating as N8MH/KH6 and as W3ZM/KH6 July 5-8 from
BL20, FM and linears. Possibility of other grids once there. Watch the
Twitter feed for further announcements: https://twitter.com/N8MH

Wabakimi Provincial Park, Ontario (EO50) ? July 4-10, 2019
Fred, VE3FAL, is heading off to Wabakimi Provincial Park July 4th-10th
and will activate EO50 via FM satellites. Keep an eye on Fred?s Twitter
feed for further updates: https://twitter.com/Fred_VE3FAL

UP and Ontario (EN85, EN86, EN87) July 6-13, 2019
Chris, AA8CH, is heading back up north MI July 6th. Staying in EN85,
will also hit EN86 if any requests. July 13 going to stay in EN76/VE3,
with activation of EN86/EN87 planned. DM or email Chris, if you need
one of ?em. Keep an eye on Chris? Twitter feed for further updates:
https://twitter.com/charliehotel10

Montana (EN55) July 8-10, 2019
Dennis, N7EGY, will be in DN55 starting the evening of July 8th thru
~1800z July 10th. First priority is moving his daughter & family into
their new home, but he?ll sneak away to play on the birds as able.
Keep an eye on Dennis? Twitter feed for specific pass announcements:
https://twitter.com/n7egy1

Iceland (HP93, HP94, HP95, IP03, IP05, IP13, IP14, IP15, IP24, IP25,
IP35) ? July 13-19, 2019
Adam, K0FFY, is taking his family (and his radios) to Iceland. He?ll
be staying in HP95 on July 13, IP15 on July 14-15, IP25 on July 16,
IP03 on July 17-18, and HP94 on July 19. In total, he?ll be passing
through HP93, HP94, HP95, IP03, IP05, IP13, IP14, IP15, IP24, IP25, &
IP35. There?s a lot to see, so passes will be best effort & announced
on Twitter shortly prior:  https://twitter.com/K0FFY_Radio

For more information on the latest satellite roves and special events:
https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/

[ANS thanks KE4AL for the above information]

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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ Several AMSAT members will be operating on satellites during the
  13 Colonies Special Event this weekend:
  N2OA will be operating as K2A from FN03
  KG4AKV will operate as K2J from North Carolina
  N3CAL will represent Maryland from FM18 as K2F
  For more information see:
  http://www.13colonies.net/
  (ANS thanks N2OA, KG4AKV, and N3CAL for the above information)

+ An ARRL video introducing amateur radio to the public includes AMSAT
  Members N8HM, KM4LAO, and NP4JV:
  https://www.facebook.com/ARRL.org/videos/576779882849805/
  (ANS thanks ARRL for the above information)

+ Lunar-OSCAR 94 successfully imaged the solar eclipse from lunar
  orbit on July 2. The images were downloaded by BY2HIT and PI9CAM.
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ifQaaXsAAGBwd.jpg
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iDwjdUcAA8ehc.jpg
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iNUXCX4AEzjmQ.jpg
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iGqg9W4AAT3ue.jpg
  (ANS thanks Nico Janssen, PA0DLO for the above information.)

+ A nicely detailed description of equipment needed for access to the
  geosynchronous QO-100 by Tobias M?del, DL4TMA was recently posted at:
  https://tbspace.de/qo100eshail2.html
  (ANS thanks Tobias M?del, DL4TMA, for the above information)

+ NASA will celebrate the 50th anniversary of the historic Apollo 11
  Moon mission and look to the future of exploration on the Moon and
  Mars with a live, two-hour television broadcast Friday, July 19, and
  partner-led events taking place across the country from July 16
  through July 20. For details, see:
  https://www.nasa.gov/specials/apollo50th/index.html
  (ANS thanks NASA for the above information)

+ The Planetary Society's LightSail 2 spacecraft sprang loose from its
  Prox-1 carrier vehicle as planned on July 2, and sent its first
  signals back to mission control at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo in Cali-
  fornia. The satellite, with callsign WM9XPA, sends AX.25 FSK telem-
  etry at 9600 bps on 437.025 MHz. Full news release at:
  https://tinyurl.com/y6dtauv2
  (ANS thanks The Planetary Society for the above information)

+ A reminder that AO-85 is in a low battery voltage condition. Please
  do not use the satellite while it is in eclipse, even if you hear it.
  Please send reports to the AMSAT-BB. They are welcome and helpful.
  (ANS thanks Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA for the above information.)

+ On July 1, 1976, the main exhibition hall of the National Air and
  Space Museum in Washington, DC opened. AMSAT was on site with a
  portable satellite station on the steps of the museum and President
  Ford's dedication speech was transmitted through AO-7. Photos of
  this event were posted by AMSAT at
  https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/1145679438744608769

+ The submission deadline for AMSAT Field Day scores is July 8th.


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73 and Remember to help keep amateur radio in space,
This week's ANS Editor,

K0JM at amsat dot org

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 23:04:10 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:04:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <017901d53423$c71bb840$555328c0$@verizon.net>
References: <017901d53423$c71bb840$555328c0$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN95RT4mYYyQJGcZsrfUoNEXkR23aks3i+8xoxVauVVag@mail.gmail.com>

Great recommendations Tom. I hadn't thought about west coast passes
being easier for central US stations, but that makes sense.

I added a link to your post on a web page I have with similar suggestions:

https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/your-first-satellite-contact-tips/

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 1:56 PM Tom Schuessler, N5HYP via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> So many newcomers to the FM Sats are put off by the chaos they here,
> especially on the weekends.  Our success has led to this, which is at the
> same time a bad thing and a good thing.
>
> For those interested in making a first contact, or getting more comfortable
> with the process, here is what I recommend to folks I talk to.
>
>  1) Listen a lot first.  Get familiar with the process.  (Getting Started
> with Amateur Satellites from the AMSAT Store is also great for this stage).
>  2). Weekday passes, especially not in Summer are active but somewhat less
> competitive.
>  3). Overnight passes, especially of AO-91 as they generally are in the wee
> hours of the morning when most of us are tucked away in our beds.
>  4). For those on the east coast, Passes out over the Atlantic, as the
> footprint will have fewer other operators available, thus lower competition.
>  5). Central US operators should take advantage of west coast passes.
> Except for California, way fewer operators per square mile which means more
> room, sometimes.
>  6). West coast operators should aim for passes well over the pacific to
> again have fewer operators.
>  7). Full duplex operation.  You may have to put a duplexer on each radio,
> even using an Arrow with two feeds, to help separate V and U signals to
> avoid de-sense.
>  8). Low popularity passes help you learn the quirks of each satellite as
> well as what procedures work best for you to hear yourself (Full duplex).
>  9) Use proper phonetics to get your call/grid across plainly.
> 10) Enjoy the challenge.  Don't give up.
>
> Finally, no one reading this email needs this last piece of advice.
> Subscribe to this mail list.  It is a great learning tool.
>
> 73
>
> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
> EM12ms
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 23:05:30 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:05:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUc8zrn_oUhC7FH+rdA7z3LoZw_acSD4iyBs91waeocZjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc8zrn_oUhC7FH+rdA7z3LoZw_acSD4iyBs91waeocZjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMipvxD-b6qSZbnBHb5JdqXq+cmf89tV=K982770Aq_-A@mail.gmail.com>

Good stuff Patrick. Thanks for your report.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 4:37 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
<amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I just worked an AO-85 pass about an hour ago. Had to wait
> until about 1/3 of the way to get through, then it worked OK.
> I heard AA5PK and WD9GET in Texas, along with AC9E
> in New Mexico. About 33 degrees max elevation here.
> Nice to still have AO-85 around...
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 6, 2019, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> It just worked/sounded as good as ever on the 1602 UTC pass (2019-07-06).
>>
>> I was able to get in easily with 5 watts through most of the last half of
>> the pass. It was not fading in RX or TX capability at all like it was the
>> previous few times I worked it. This was a 72 degree pass for me.
>>
>> Perhaps its solar panels were lit perfectly and maybe its RX antenna was
>> lined up perfectly for me... either way, I am impressed. I'll upload my
>> recording later but just wanted to put this out there as there were a ton
>> of WMPLOTA stations on AO-91 earlier... maybe spread the traffic out on
>> AO-85 some. At least when it is not in eclipse.
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> _

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sat Jul  6 20:37:47 2019
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:37:47 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUc8zrn_oUhC7FH+rdA7z3LoZw_acSD4iyBs91waeocZjA@mail.gmail.com>

John,

I just worked an AO-85 pass about an hour ago. Had to wait
until about 1/3 of the way to get through, then it worked OK.
I heard AA5PK and WD9GET in Texas, along with AC9E
in New Mexico. About 33 degrees max elevation here.
Nice to still have AO-85 around...

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK



On Saturday, July 6, 2019, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> It just worked/sounded as good as ever on the 1602 UTC pass (2019-07-06).
>
> I was able to get in easily with 5 watts through most of the last half of
> the pass. It was not fading in RX or TX capability at all like it was the
> previous few times I worked it. This was a 72 degree pass for me.
>
> Perhaps its solar panels were lit perfectly and maybe its RX antenna was
> lined up perfectly for me... either way, I am impressed. I'll upload my
> recording later but just wanted to put this out there as there were a ton
> of WMPLOTA stations on AO-91 earlier... maybe spread the traffic out on
> AO-85 some. At least when it is not in eclipse.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> _
>

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 00:22:00 2019
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:22:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM sat chaos
In-Reply-To: <1467408269.3691163.1562427127311@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <3d1750e2ec09be3582f7a2955107c258@etczone.com>
	<CAPf7+3qm-37h9+yaTy1opcf7hAA9qk=nmZiT8X_PQru_uDzowA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1298ddb0-3de9-a330-05da-41c431bee5e7@pobox.com>
	<CALn0fKMvw_-7ObT0Z0vtQEFrEMYXNc52wiXf7nPNwPkpYnZgXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e14dc51d-d972-4025-e111-b57b54ed426a@pobox.com>
	<CAAJiE8NisG8UFGsOLUp9+T1Ab97UOZObmRG_o0ZKxyBAcWF0Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1467408269.3691163.1562427127311@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8On12M1RRX0gWXVPxHyz3eMaUbJuwVG7bsKHkmQPA_Dpg@mail.gmail.com>

No doubt, it can be a back killer if you keep it on for too long. I'm
planning another version which is more self contained and provides a bit of
shelter the head unit. I have a rain cover for the backpack but nothing too
good for the head unit.

I'm also thinking about using smaller batteries, the 20Ah is a bit of
overkill for this use, but the run time is pretty long. ;-)

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 11:33 BOB via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>  Don,
>
> Impressive set-up! Also, very impressive that you have the
>
> strength to wield that assembly!!
>
> GL/73, Bob K8BL
>
> P.S. I have a spare IC-820H that sits on my tailgate when
>
>  I rove and the Arrow sits on a tripod while I sit on my butt.
>      On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 11:13:50 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  I use a D74 and an IC-7100 built into a man pack so it is portable and not
> tethered to a fix spot or hard surface. There is a picture of my system in
> this album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6IMFF4PjYb1c5HO2   I attach the
> head
> unit to the straps of the backpack after it is on my back.
>
> My Arrow holder for the RX radio (D74):
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/CHRaFDvYqwKkKLr87
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2019-07-05 10:03, John Brier wrote:
> > > Eh, what you describe might be inexpensive, but I wouldn't call that
> > > easy.
> >
> > Cheap, easy, fast. Pick any two. :-)
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> >
>
>
> --
> 73,
> Don KB2YSI
> https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 01:42:00 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 21:42:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM15 on 2019-07-07 - 2115 UTC - SO-50 pass
Message-ID: <CALn0fKM=6XvCE-RJgXOFwWJrxReqFWT2BuXuFaSZjew_9pZ06w@mail.gmail.com>

I will be activating FM15 tomorrow on the 2019-07-07 - 2115 UTC - SO-50 pass.

I may be on the FM05/FM15 gridline too. This pass covers all of the US:

https://twitter.com/SpaceComms1/status/1147681616602574848

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Sun Jul  7 02:27:41 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:27:41 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKE+tQvNz64FND_T_ZR=RSz1rRxq7YVLjqt5YowN_iHMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
	<CAJCSnOarZ5hjdQP81tVk3pmujkKHEDfEd719ufJZ38fMa48xeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f808cce-d5fc-70c3-dde6-f8df5f966880@msa.hinet.net>
	<CALdCfNKE+tQvNz64FND_T_ZR=RSz1rRxq7YVLjqt5YowN_iHMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57ebffa6-c91f-24bc-2da6-876b5a406f17@msa.hinet.net>

I've got a Kenwood TH-F7E and NFM is 2.5 kHz, FM is 5.0 kHz. In Europe 
we do indeed try to use NFM. 73 de Hans BX2ABT


On 07/07/2019 12:34 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I have not looked up the deviation for narroband FM, but just choose 
> that modulation method in the Kenwood Modulation menu.? It is either 
> FM or NFM.? I assume NFM is what is the default in Europe?
>
> Bob
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 9:15 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB 
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that page, yet.
>
>     As for 2m: I have a nasty local case of interference here which wipes
>     out 145.825 in most directions (local electronic billboard), so
>     I'm not
>     active with APRS.
>
>     BTW, what do you mean by NARROW-FM? I take it that it is the
>     deviation
>     of the FM signal, with narrow being 2.5 kHz, right?
>
>     73 de Hans
>
>     BX2ABT
>
>
>     On 07/06/2019 09:42 AM, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     > There is quite a bit of detail on the possible modes of PSAT-2
>     operation at:
>     >
>     > https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md
>     >
>     > ... so far, I've seen both PSK31 and SSTV in the 70cm downlink.?
>     However,
>     > at such low elevations I am not getting enough signal to
>     determine exactly
>     > what the current pattern of operation is.
>     >
>     > However, on the 2m downlink (145.825), the activity has picked
>     up each
>     > night as the rising elevation makes PSAT-2 available to more
>     folks.? Please
>     > remember to transmit in NARROW-FM mode and if your radio has CAT
>     control
>     > and you can doppler-correct your uplink, better yet.
>     >
>     > -Scott,? K4KDR
>     >
>     > ==========================
>     >
>     > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:28 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
>     <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >> Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the
>     same. We
>     >> have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV
>     seen at
>     >> all. --Hans BX2ABT
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     >>> Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
>     >>> broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the
>     beginning,
>     >>> but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What
>     gives? 73
>     >>> de Hans
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From rick at vk6xlr.net  Sun Jul  7 07:37:48 2019
From: rick at vk6xlr.net (Rick Kowalewski)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 15:37:48 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32/IC-9700 Start Up Issue
In-Reply-To: <ebe84d3b-d221-eca3-90b4-3a6215e05a37@gmail.com>
References: <CAEAiAJ4RHkM2-RPL7TskNCnRNQvQe9Q2_46BT4idz4hcqanz3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<000401d51f0f$338e9350$9aabb9f0$@gokarns.com>
	<ebe84d3b-d221-eca3-90b4-3a6215e05a37@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67555578-9e42-533b-e179-261866add21d@vk6xlr.net>

Just installed the latest SatPC32, 16 June 2019, now with IC9700 
support.? PC has Win 7 with latest updates and 9700 has latest firmware 1.11

The lock-up issue showed up again.
Was tracking FO-29, adjusting the 9700 tuning knob and SatPC32 stopped 
following the radio.

Strange this is, exit SatPC32 and the 9700 drops out of Satellite Mode.? 
Start SatPC32 again, radio goes into Satellite mode.? So, some comms are 
there, but not VFO.?? While SatPC32 is not running, start any other 
program to use the 9700, ie JTDX or WSJT-X and they can not communicate 
to the radio, but audio is still being shown on their waterfall display.

Restarting SatPC32 or power cycling (via power button) the 9700 does not 
fix the issue.? I have to shutdown the PC and turn off the 9700s PSU.? 
Restart PC, power up the 9700 again and all is good again.

73,
Rick VK6RK

On 10/06/2019 19:19, Ernie via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Original Message
>> From: Frank Karnauskas<n1uw at gokarns.com>
>> To:<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 23:41:55 -0500
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32/IC-9700 Start Up Issue
>> After watching Daniel, W5EKG's You Tube video, I had SatPC32 and the
>> IC-9700 working beautifully on the first try.? (Thanks, Daniel!) The
>> radio frequency tracked the software real-time just like it should.
>>
>> However, after playing around for a few minutes (changing satellites,
>> turning the main tuning knob, etc.) The radio suddenly stopped
>> following the frequency changes from SatPC32.? The frequency
>> intermittently updates after 10-20 seconds accompanied by the
>> frequency on the radio display flashing white from MAIN to SUB for a
>> brief moment.? Usually nothing happens until I choose another
>> satellite then the frequency updates once then...crickets.

From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Sun Jul  7 09:34:34 2019
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:34:34 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32/IC-9700 Start Up Issue
In-Reply-To: <67555578-9e42-533b-e179-261866add21d@vk6xlr.net>
References: <CAEAiAJ4RHkM2-RPL7TskNCnRNQvQe9Q2_46BT4idz4hcqanz3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<000401d51f0f$338e9350$9aabb9f0$@gokarns.com>
	<ebe84d3b-d221-eca3-90b4-3a6215e05a37@gmail.com>
	<67555578-9e42-533b-e179-261866add21d@vk6xlr.net>
Message-ID: <ff587cfd-501a-cde0-a45c-1d975a160f52@t-online.de>

Rick,
I run also Win 7? on my station PC and all SatPC32 CAT features work 
flawlessly with the IC-9700, also tuning the radio by the VFO knob. I'm 
also running? the version that includes the IC-9700. (That should not 
make a difference vs. the prvious version, the program uses exactly the 
same CAT functions that it uses with the IC-9100.) My radio is connected 
via its USB port (not the REMOTE port).
A few days ago Halvard, LA7XK, who had a flawlessly working 
installation, reported a similar problem, after he had installed the 
updated version and? restored his data using DataBackup. He then 
installed the previous installation and restored his data also by 
DataBackup. The problem was the same.
He then uninstalled the program and made a clean new installation and 
configured the program manually, and rebooted the PC. Then all worked 
flawlessly again.
He wrote:
"Hi again Erich.*
The problem is solved*. I am back in business with the new versionof 
SatPC32. After uninstalling the old version and reinstalling the new 
version with IC-9700 support and setting the new program up,
I had to reboot the PC. After a reboot everything now works fine."

Halvard supposes that something went wrong when he restorted the data by 
DataBackup.

As you will have seen there are detailled instructions on how to 
configure the IC-9700 and SatPC32 on my website (Engl. page 
'Downloads'): http:/www.dk1tb.de/IC9700_settings.htm
With these settings CAT control works flawlessly here.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 07.07.2019 um 09:37 schrieb Rick Kowalewski:
> Just installed the latest SatPC32, 16 June 2019, now with IC9700 
> support.? PC has Win 7 with latest updates and 9700 has latest 
> firmware 1.11
>
> The lock-up issue showed up again.
> Was tracking FO-29, adjusting the 9700 tuning knob and SatPC32 stopped 
> following the radio.
>
> Strange this is, exit SatPC32 and the 9700 drops out of Satellite 
> Mode.? Start SatPC32 again, radio goes into Satellite mode.? So, some 
> comms are there, but not VFO.?? While SatPC32 is not running, start 
> any other program to use the 9700, ie JTDX or WSJT-X and they can not 
> communicate to the radio, but audio is still being shown on their 
> waterfall display.
>
> Restarting SatPC32 or power cycling (via power button) the 9700 does 
> not fix the issue.? I have to shutdown the PC and turn off the 9700s 
> PSU.? Restart PC, power up the 9700 again and all is good again.
>
> 73,
> Rick VK6RK
>
> On 10/06/2019 19:19, Ernie via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Original Message
>>> From: Frank Karnauskas<n1uw at gokarns.com>
>>> To:<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 23:41:55 -0500
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32/IC-9700 Start Up Issue
>>> After watching Daniel, W5EKG's You Tube video, I had SatPC32 and the
>>> IC-9700 working beautifully on the first try.? (Thanks, Daniel!) The
>>> radio frequency tracked the software real-time just like it should.
>>>
>>> However, after playing around for a few minutes (changing satellites,
>>> turning the main tuning knob, etc.) The radio suddenly stopped
>>> following the frequency changes from SatPC32.? The frequency
>>> intermittently updates after 10-20 seconds accompanied by the
>>> frequency on the radio display flashing white from MAIN to SUB for a
>>> brief moment.? Usually nothing happens until I choose another
>>> satellite then the frequency updates once then...crickets.

From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  7 13:07:36 2019
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 13:07:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARMADILLO over Brazil
References: <245706836.2490598.1562504856214.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <245706836.2490598.1562504856214@mail.yahoo.com>

Mensagens a 19k2 do ARMADILLO? ?RX por PY4ZBZ? ?07-07-2019? ?12:21 UTC
1:Fm KE5DTW To WH2XYR <UI R Pid=F0 Len=256> [09:21:24R] [AA] [+++++++]
Getting bored of space.Do you smell something burning?What's your favorite thing about space? Mine is space.There's a star. There's another one. Star. Star star star. Star.Don't like space. Don't like space.It's too big. Too big. Wanna go home. Wanna go to earth.Here, let me put on some adventure music.This ain't Marquis of Queensberry Rules, sweetie! Pour on the mustard!There's nothing in space! That's why it's space!You know what I hope's in space? Fire. I hope you go to space and catch on fire.We will both die because of your negligence.This situation is hopeless.Oh. Play cool. Play cool. Here come the space cops. Here come the space cops.Atmosphere. Black holes. Astronauts. Nebulas. Jupiter. The Big Dipper.Ohhh, the Sun. I'm gonna meet the Sun. Oh no! What'll I say? 'Hi! Hi Sun!' Oh boy!Come here, space, I have a secret for you. No, come closer.I'm in space!I know! Spell it! S P... AACE. Space. Space.
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sun Jul  7 13:42:03 2019
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 21:42:03 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Plan
Message-ID: <28ae0b4.83d1.16bccab8dda.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Here is the DSLWP-B UHF plan for the following days:


09 Jul 12:30 to 14:30
10 Jul 13:50 to 15:50
12 Jul 02:00 to 04:00
12 Jul 16:30 to 18:30


All time in UTC. GMSK on both freq & JT4G on 435.4. JT4G repeater message on 436.4 TBD.


SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html   

Online JT4G telemetry forwarder: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html   
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html 



VY TNX & 73!


Wei BG2BHC



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com




 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 

From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Sun Jul  7 16:04:27 2019
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:04:27 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 mode setting problem
Message-ID: <c3ee2aec-b695-1ef3-751b-6a8db31a047c@t-online.de>

Hello,
A German user of the IC-9700 (Firmware vers. 1.11) reports the following 
problem when controlling the radio by SatPC32: When he selects a 
satellite the frequencies are set correctly, but the downlink mode goes 
immediatly to DATA mode.? With FO-29, AO-07 the radio displays 'USB-D' 
as downlink mode, with SO-50 'FM-D', the same with all satellites.
The mode settings in Doppler.SQF are correct (USB, FM etc.). The uplink 
mode is set correctly to LSB, FM etc. He can change to normal mode by 
pressing the field DATA in the mode screen, but when he selects another 
satellite the radio switchs? again to DATA mode.

With my radio (Firmwarevers. 1.06) also? the donwlink mode is set? 
correctly to USB , FM etc (without the? '-D'). I can manually switch to 
USB-D, FM-D etc.? by pressing the field 'DATA' in the mode screen. The 
'-D' then remains until I switch to another satellite, because the 
program sets the mode only once when the satellite is selected. When I 
switch to another satellite the radio goes to back to USB, FM etc.

Has someone noticed such problem?
Many thainks.
73s, Erich, DK1TB


From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 16:13:41 2019
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:13:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 mode setting problem
In-Reply-To: <c3ee2aec-b695-1ef3-751b-6a8db31a047c@t-online.de>
References: <c3ee2aec-b695-1ef3-751b-6a8db31a047c@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FeaQPCmDcj6ZyqqVT_qnNAqVvvo0KH569g-6KnpJTgAEA@mail.gmail.com>

Erich,

 I'm running firmware 1.11 and everything works as it should.

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S9

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 12:05 PM Erich Eichmann via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> A German user of the IC-9700 (Firmware vers. 1.11) reports the following
> problem when controlling the radio by SatPC32: When he selects a
> satellite the frequencies are set correctly, but the downlink mode goes
> immediatly to DATA mode.  With FO-29, AO-07 the radio displays 'USB-D'
> as downlink mode, with SO-50 'FM-D', the same with all satellites.
> The mode settings in Doppler.SQF are correct (USB, FM etc.). The uplink
> mode is set correctly to LSB, FM etc. He can change to normal mode by
> pressing the field DATA in the mode screen, but when he selects another
> satellite the radio switchs  again to DATA mode.
>
> With my radio (Firmwarevers. 1.06) also  the donwlink mode is set
> correctly to USB , FM etc (without the  '-D'). I can manually switch to
> USB-D, FM-D etc.  by pressing the field 'DATA' in the mode screen. The
> '-D' then remains until I switch to another satellite, because the
> program sets the mode only once when the satellite is selected. When I
> switch to another satellite the radio goes to back to USB, FM etc.
>
> Has someone noticed such problem?
> Many thainks.
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  7 16:16:59 2019
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 16:16:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT-2 SSTV
References: <527046721.2519583.1562516219154.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <527046721.2519583.1562516219154@mail.yahoo.com>

<https://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/psat2.htm#b>
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sun Jul  7 16:46:21 2019
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:46:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
Message-ID: <098201d534e3$81c77250$855656f0$@mindspring.com>

 

July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support of the ARRL
Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything that passes
over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.

 

73, Drew KO4MA

AMSAT VP Operations

 

 


From marklhammond at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 17:29:18 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 07:29:18 -1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 mode setting problem
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FeaQPCmDcj6ZyqqVT_qnNAqVvvo0KH569g-6KnpJTgAEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c3ee2aec-b695-1ef3-751b-6a8db31a047c@t-online.de>
	<CAEMY9FeaQPCmDcj6ZyqqVT_qnNAqVvvo0KH569g-6KnpJTgAEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyp1cCt4eheBXDQyqz90MfLaARO6xq3UZP78WbOX=tXgiw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Erich, my IC-9700 with firmware 1.11 runs perfectly.  I have not seen
the DATA mode mysteriously show up on any satellite.

Mark N8MH

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 6:15 AM Dave Webb KB1PVH via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Erich,
>
>  I'm running firmware 1.11 and everything works as it should.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S9
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 12:05 PM Erich Eichmann via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > A German user of the IC-9700 (Firmware vers. 1.11) reports the following
> > problem when controlling the radio by SatPC32: When he selects a
> > satellite the frequencies are set correctly, but the downlink mode goes
> > immediatly to DATA mode.  With FO-29, AO-07 the radio displays 'USB-D'
> > as downlink mode, with SO-50 'FM-D', the same with all satellites.
> > The mode settings in Doppler.SQF are correct (USB, FM etc.). The uplink
> > mode is set correctly to LSB, FM etc. He can change to normal mode by
> > pressing the field DATA in the mode screen, but when he selects another
> > satellite the radio switchs  again to DATA mode.
> >
> > With my radio (Firmwarevers. 1.06) also  the donwlink mode is set
> > correctly to USB , FM etc (without the  '-D'). I can manually switch to
> > USB-D, FM-D etc.  by pressing the field 'DATA' in the mode screen. The
> > '-D' then remains until I switch to another satellite, because the
> > program sets the mode only once when the satellite is selected. When I
> > switch to another satellite the radio goes to back to USB, FM etc.
> >
> > Has someone noticed such problem?
> > Many thainks.
> > 73s, Erich, DK1TB
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 19:05:11 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 15:05:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMipvxD-b6qSZbnBHb5JdqXq+cmf89tV=K982770Aq_-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc8zrn_oUhC7FH+rdA7z3LoZw_acSD4iyBs91waeocZjA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMipvxD-b6qSZbnBHb5JdqXq+cmf89tV=K982770Aq_-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOMJrJMJUwHUr=ArjffBwMo8Ywd-kB3k4vOjRz4V3e2Yg@mail.gmail.com>

And here is my recording:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjwna2b35oi99f4/2019-07-06_1802_UTC_-_AO-85_KG4AKV_K2J_FM13.WAV?dl=0

You can hear Veronica at 00:38 and then I turn the transponder on
after her second transmission at 02:45.

At various times I say what power I'm using, and towards the end what
the elevation was. I definitely got in solid with 5 watts < 10 degrees
at least one point.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 7:05 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good stuff Patrick. Thanks for your report.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 4:37 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I just worked an AO-85 pass about an hour ago. Had to wait
> > until about 1/3 of the way to get through, then it worked OK.
> > I heard AA5PK and WD9GET in Texas, along with AC9E
> > in New Mexico. About 33 degrees max elevation here.
> > Nice to still have AO-85 around...
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, July 6, 2019, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> It just worked/sounded as good as ever on the 1602 UTC pass (2019-07-06).
> >>
> >> I was able to get in easily with 5 watts through most of the last half of
> >> the pass. It was not fading in RX or TX capability at all like it was the
> >> previous few times I worked it. This was a 72 degree pass for me.
> >>
> >> Perhaps its solar panels were lit perfectly and maybe its RX antenna was
> >> lined up perfectly for me... either way, I am impressed. I'll upload my
> >> recording later but just wanted to put this out there as there were a ton
> >> of WMPLOTA stations on AO-91 earlier... maybe spread the traffic out on
> >> AO-85 some. At least when it is not in eclipse.
> >>
> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >> _

From burns at fisher.cc  Sun Jul  7 21:24:45 2019
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 17:24:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOMJrJMJUwHUr=ArjffBwMo8Ywd-kB3k4vOjRz4V3e2Yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc8zrn_oUhC7FH+rdA7z3LoZw_acSD4iyBs91waeocZjA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMipvxD-b6qSZbnBHb5JdqXq+cmf89tV=K982770Aq_-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOMJrJMJUwHUr=ArjffBwMo8Ywd-kB3k4vOjRz4V3e2Yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxW_DGTbDrb2uLQV+VpoTpwGBe6G0XzMP4Jhb+6v3qCdEA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks John and Patrick.  It really does sound pretty good!  It is in a
slightly different mode from back when there were no eclipses.  Pretty
impressive that it keeps on plugging along!

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:05 PM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> And here is my recording:
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjwna2b35oi99f4/2019-07-06_1802_UTC_-_AO-85_KG4AKV_K2J_FM13.WAV?dl=0
>
> You can hear Veronica at 00:38 and then I turn the transponder on
> after her second transmission at 02:45.
>
> At various times I say what power I'm using, and towards the end what
> the elevation was. I definitely got in solid with 5 watts < 10 degrees
> at least one point.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 7:05 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good stuff Patrick. Thanks for your report.
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 4:37 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> > <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I just worked an AO-85 pass about an hour ago. Had to wait
> > > until about 1/3 of the way to get through, then it worked OK.
> > > I heard AA5PK and WD9GET in Texas, along with AC9E
> > > in New Mexico. About 33 degrees max elevation here.
> > > Nice to still have AO-85 around...
> > >
> > > 73!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 6, 2019, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It just worked/sounded as good as ever on the 1602 UTC pass
> (2019-07-06).
> > >>
> > >> I was able to get in easily with 5 watts through most of the last
> half of
> > >> the pass. It was not fading in RX or TX capability at all like it was
> the
> > >> previous few times I worked it. This was a 72 degree pass for me.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps its solar panels were lit perfectly and maybe its RX antenna
> was
> > >> lined up perfectly for me... either way, I am impressed. I'll upload
> my
> > >> recording later but just wanted to put this out there as there were a
> ton
> > >> of WMPLOTA stations on AO-91 earlier... maybe spread the traffic out
> on
> > >> AO-85 some. At least when it is not in eclipse.
> > >>
> > >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> > >> _
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Jul  7 21:42:19 2019
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 21:42:19 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow! Do not discount AO-85 yet!
In-Reply-To: <CABX7KxW_DGTbDrb2uLQV+VpoTpwGBe6G0XzMP4Jhb+6v3qCdEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKOMnvNuH5nk_v_Or_0tSUH=BNtgrHTsWhTLk3jFPcN+9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc8zrn_oUhC7FH+rdA7z3LoZw_acSD4iyBs91waeocZjA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMipvxD-b6qSZbnBHb5JdqXq+cmf89tV=K982770Aq_-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOMJrJMJUwHUr=ArjffBwMo8Ywd-kB3k4vOjRz4V3e2Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABX7KxW_DGTbDrb2uLQV+VpoTpwGBe6G0XzMP4Jhb+6v3qCdEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcq33tiBMj7_TMUgkBh=zZF9XEmpxceuCEEx8URMM880A@mail.gmail.com>

Burns and John,

The second AO-85 pass I worked yesterday sounded better than
the earlier pass. I could get into the satellite earlier on
the later pass, and with lower power than I needed earlier. Not
many were on either of the passes I tried. My audio is in the
"Satellite_Audio-2019" folder at http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/
(look for the file names starting with 20190706 with "AO85" in
the rest of the file name).

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK





On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 9:25 PM Burns Fisher <burns at fisher.cc> wrote:

> Thanks John and Patrick.  It really does sound pretty good!  It is in a
> slightly different mode from back when there were no eclipses.  Pretty
> impressive that it keeps on plugging along!
>
>
>

From corlissbs at aol.com  Sun Jul  7 22:00:36 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 17:00:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tripod mount for Arrow.
Message-ID: <5EEB97DA-7EF4-423C-BA75-E3B0048077A2@aol.com>

Don: What kind of mount do you have to hold your Arrow on the tripod?

I rove and the Arrow sits on a tripod while I sit on my butt.
    On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 11:13:50 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  

Sent from Brad's iPod

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 22:36:49 2019
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:36:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tripod mount for Arrow.
In-Reply-To: <5EEB97DA-7EF4-423C-BA75-E3B0048077A2@aol.com>
References: <5EEB97DA-7EF4-423C-BA75-E3B0048077A2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8PKzzUcj7yxdCioskhtqb73f9cWy1AFhKwKU7FUXQYmbw@mail.gmail.com>

I do not use a tripod, I hold the Arrow in my hand.

 I have the IC-7100 head unit connected to a metal T, available at probably
every hardware store in the US, via the tripod mount on it.

I added a few more pictures to the album,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6IMFF4PjYb1c5HO2, one shows the under side of
the control head.

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 18:01 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Don: What kind of mount do you have to hold your Arrow on the tripod?
>
> I rove and the Arrow sits on a tripod while I sit on my butt.
>     On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 11:13:50 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Sent from Brad's iPod
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From marklhammond at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 22:46:23 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:46:23 -1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] W3ZM/KH6 from BL20ca
Message-ID: <CAPRXzypcnRFFiAT_u2q4J8mKnoAvBk2PVpMXb1AE2cf6dRV7hw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, getting near the end of the operating time here in Hawaii.  I am
currently limited to the east by hills/mountains, so I need like 8 deg ELE
or  more, working from BL20ca.   Two passes coming up shortly:

7/8 (soon! )
AO-7 pass around 0005 z .   Listen for me at 145.938 (at the satellite).
FO-29 pass around  0040z.  Very short window with enough elevation, but
I'll try it.  Listen 435.882 (at the satellite)

73!

Mark N8MH .

-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Mon Jul  8 01:04:10 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 09:04:10 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
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Why not leave the camera on for an entire day or two so people around 
the world can enjoy AO-92 in another way?

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/08/2019 12:46 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>   
>
> July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support of the ARRL
> Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything that passes
> over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.
>
>   
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> AMSAT VP Operations
>
>   
>
>   
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From marklhammond at gmail.com  Mon Jul  8 01:57:20 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 15:57:20 -1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
In-Reply-To: <9694cca0-a882-b5a3-c9c0-b53fb40b35c9@msa.hinet.net>
References: <098201d534e3$81c77250$855656f0$@mindspring.com>
	<9694cca0-a882-b5a3-c9c0-b53fb40b35c9@msa.hinet.net>
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It?s on a timer, that cannot be changed.
Mark N8MH

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:04 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Why not leave the camera on for an entire day or two so people around
> the world can enjoy AO-92 in another way?
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/08/2019 12:46 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >
> >
> > July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support of the
> ARRL
> > Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything that passes
> > over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >
> > AMSAT VP Operations
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> >
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>
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From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Mon Jul  8 02:00:59 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 10:00:59 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
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References: <098201d534e3$81c77250$855656f0$@mindspring.com>
	<9694cca0-a882-b5a3-c9c0-b53fb40b35c9@msa.hinet.net>
	<CAPRXzyo_uGeA9jvBvVRDgxnEbceJFyvEjRLv_R-i9KtV9OD5DA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <de2b1766-a6d5-c77f-7e7f-ffa72f4d1618@msa.hinet.net>

Any reason for this limited setup? Would love to get some 9k6 frames.

Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/08/2019 09:57 AM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> It?s on a timer, that cannot be changed.
> Mark N8MH
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:04 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB 
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
>
>     Why not leave the camera on for an entire day or two so people around
>     the world can enjoy AO-92 in another way?
>
>     73 de Hans
>
>     BX2ABT
>
>
>     On 07/08/2019 12:46 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support
>     of the ARRL
>     > Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything
>     that passes
>     > over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > 73, Drew KO4MA
>     >
>     > AMSAT VP Operations
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>.
>     AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>     > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
>     membership. Opinions expressed
>     > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>     views of AMSAT-NA.
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>     satellite program!
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>     >
>     >
>
>     _______________________________________________
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>     makes this open forum available
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> -- 
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From kk5do at arrl.net  Mon Jul  8 02:31:19 2019
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 21:31:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day score submission drawing near
Message-ID: <49e4fd97-3643-7d81-ec09-fc0378f2a45b@arrl.net>

Only about one day left to get your scores in for AMSAT Field Day 2019. 
You have until 11:59PM, Monday, July 8, 2019 to get those scores emailed 
to me.

If you have some pictures, send them along. If you have a story about 
your field day experience, send it along as well.

73...bruce

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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon Jul  8 03:08:04 2019
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 23:08:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
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References: <098201d534e3$81c77250$855656f0$@mindspring.com>	<9694cca0-a882-b5a3-c9c0-b53fb40b35c9@msa.hinet.net>	<CAPRXzyo_uGeA9jvBvVRDgxnEbceJFyvEjRLv_R-i9KtV9OD5DA@mail.gmail.com>
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It was necessary as a consequence of our original imaging license from NOAA. We could not image anything other than the surface of the earth, and since the satellite is stabilized with a bar magnet, the camera points up in the southern hemisphere. 45 minutes on an ascending pass means the camera is off by the time it is pointed the wrong way. That's the reason as far as I remember it. Jerry or Burns might be along to correct me if my memory is faulty.

You may have some shot at receiving the signal as the ascending passes over the US go over the pole and down over China and western Japan. I can add some of those passes if you will be ready to copy.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 10:01 PM
To: Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond at gmail.com>
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode

Any reason for this limited setup? Would love to get some 9k6 frames.

Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/08/2019 09:57 AM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> It?s on a timer, that cannot be changed.
> Mark N8MH
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:04 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB 
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
>
>     Why not leave the camera on for an entire day or two so people around
>     the world can enjoy AO-92 in another way?
>
>     73 de Hans
>
>     BX2ABT
>
>
>     On 07/08/2019 12:46 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support
>     of the ARRL
>     > Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything
>     that passes
>     > over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > 73, Drew KO4MA
>     >
>     > AMSAT VP Operations
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>.
>     AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  8 03:12:19 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 03:12:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tripod mount for Arrow.
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8PKzzUcj7yxdCioskhtqb73f9cWy1AFhKwKU7FUXQYmbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5EEB97DA-7EF4-423C-BA75-E3B0048077A2@aol.com>
	<CAAJiE8PKzzUcj7yxdCioskhtqb73f9cWy1AFhKwKU7FUXQYmbw@mail.gmail.com>
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I use the Arrow antenna with this pistol grip tripod:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-70-Inch-Pistol-Grip-Tripod/dp/B01LQX0P8Q/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

73
Robert MacHale
. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Sunday, July 7, 2019, 03:38:09 PM PDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I do not use a tripod, I hold the Arrow in my hand.

 I have the IC-7100 head unit connected to a metal T, available at probably
every hardware store in the US, via the tripod mount on it.

I added a few more pictures to the album,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6IMFF4PjYb1c5HO2, one shows the under side of
the control head.

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 18:01 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Don: What kind of mount do you have to hold your Arrow on the tripod?
>
> I rove and the Arrow sits on a tripod while I sit on my butt.
>? ? On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 11:13:50 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Sent from Brad's iPod
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From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Mon Jul  8 03:43:21 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 11:43:21 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
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	<CAPRXzyo_uGeA9jvBvVRDgxnEbceJFyvEjRLv_R-i9KtV9OD5DA@mail.gmail.com>
	<de2b1766-a6d5-c77f-7e7f-ffa72f4d1618@msa.hinet.net>
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These are my N/S over the north pole passes for July 10/11 UTC

10-Jul 01:40??? E 96???? 27?
10-Jul 03:14??? WNW 289??? 11?
11-Jul 01:15??? E 97???? 13?
11-Jul 02:48??? W 285???? 21?

Elevations are not very high, so it might work with my fixed elevation 
setup. If you could, then yes, please. I know for sure the guys in Japan 
would love to track this.

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/08/2019 11:08 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> It was necessary as a consequence of our original imaging license from NOAA. We could not image anything other than the surface of the earth, and since the satellite is stabilized with a bar magnet, the camera points up in the southern hemisphere. 45 minutes on an ascending pass means the camera is off by the time it is pointed the wrong way. That's the reason as far as I remember it. Jerry or Burns might be along to correct me if my memory is faulty.
>
> You may have some shot at receiving the signal as the ascending passes over the US go over the pole and down over China and western Japan. I can add some of those passes if you will be ready to copy.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 10:01 PM
> To: Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond at gmail.com>
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
>
> Any reason for this limited setup? Would love to get some 9k6 frames.
>
> Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/08/2019 09:57 AM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>> It?s on a timer, that cannot be changed.
>> Mark N8MH
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:04 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
>>
>>      Why not leave the camera on for an entire day or two so people around
>>      the world can enjoy AO-92 in another way?
>>
>>      73 de Hans
>>
>>      BX2ABT
>>
>>
>>      On 07/08/2019 12:46 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support
>>      of the ARRL
>>      > Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything
>>      that passes
>>      > over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > 73, Drew KO4MA
>>      >
>>      > AMSAT VP Operations
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > _______________________________________________
>>      > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>.
>>      AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>      > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
>>      membership. Opinions expressed
>>      > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>      views of AMSAT-NA.
>>      > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
>>      satellite program!
>>      > Subscription settings:
>>      https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>>      >
>>      >
>>
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>>      Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA
>>      makes this open forum available
>>      to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From clintbrad4d at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  8 03:17:01 2019
From: clintbrad4d at earthlink.net (Clint Bradford)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 20:17:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tripod Mount for Arrow
Message-ID: <EB83C0DC-6A4F-4C5F-9CB6-6A0CCE3DB14B@earthlink.net>

To relieve stress to your wrist, elbow, and shoulder, you could mount a ?handle? on the end of the Arrow?s boom. 

Photos if this ergonomic enhancement here:  

http://www.k6lcs.com/Photos/Pages/Arrow_Mod.html

Clint Bradford K6LCS

From n0jy at amsat.org  Mon Jul  8 05:38:32 2019
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 00:38:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
In-Reply-To: <09bc01d5353a$5c090d10$141b2730$@mindspring.com>
References: <098201d534e3$81c77250$855656f0$@mindspring.com>
	<9694cca0-a882-b5a3-c9c0-b53fb40b35c9@msa.hinet.net>
	<CAPRXzyo_uGeA9jvBvVRDgxnEbceJFyvEjRLv_R-i9KtV9OD5DA@mail.gmail.com>
	<de2b1766-a6d5-c77f-7e7f-ffa72f4d1618@msa.hinet.net>
	<09bc01d5353a$5c090d10$141b2730$@mindspring.com>
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Drew's response is correct.? In addition the camera software ignores
images that do not appear to be of Earth and during eclipse so if left
on for a longer period, it would essentially waste repeater
opportunities by running high speed data that only contains the small
satellite/experiment telemetry.? It should keep repeating the last good
image until it changes modes or again sees Earth and captures a new
image but we considered that to be of lesser value vs. the power
required to maintain 100% duty cycle especially in eclipse, and the loss
of the use of the repeater in the southern hemisphere while in camera mode.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 7/7/2019 22:08, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> It was necessary as a consequence of our original imaging license from NOAA. We could not image anything other than the surface of the earth, and since the satellite is stabilized with a bar magnet, the camera points up in the southern hemisphere. 45 minutes on an ascending pass means the camera is off by the time it is pointed the wrong way. That's the reason as far as I remember it. Jerry or Burns might be along to correct me if my memory is faulty.
>
> You may have some shot at receiving the signal as the ascending passes over the US go over the pole and down over China and western Japan. I can add some of those passes if you will be ready to copy.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA


From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Mon Jul  8 16:42:15 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 09:42:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Technical Handbook for Satellite Monitoring -
 available for cost of shipping!
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21 responses with 3 of those clubs or school groups! I wish I had 21 to
give away.

I have asked ARRL if there is any scholarship or materials funds available
to buy some for clubs. I will see what I can do about getting some copies
for your members or students!

Today I made a list, gave it to a trustworthy person, told them to
randomize it, and then used an online customized dice generator (all those
years of playing D&D online pay off) to give a random number. The list
holder counted down from the top and the winner is:

Corey Shields

If anyone wants to buy or wish list the current version of this book then
it can be found here:

Directly from the author at
https://frequencymanager.de/produkt/technical-handbook-for-satellite-monitoring/

On Amazon at:
https://www.amazon.com/Technical-Handbook-Satellite-Monitoring-Proesch/dp/3744836827/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=satellite+handbook+for+monitoring&qid=1562356591&s=gateway&sr=8-6

-Michelle W5NYV




On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:52 AM Michelle Thompson <
mountain.michelle at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an extra copy of the 2017 edition of Roland Proesch's Technical
> Handbook for Satellite Monitoring and I would like to give it away! Just
> setting shipping and it can be yours.
>
> Here's a link to the 2017 version's table of contents:
>
> http://frequencymanager.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Technical-Handbook-for-Satellite-Monitoring-2017.pdf
>
> Available from now through Monday.
> If multiple people interested, will pick someone at random!
>
> I enjoy and use this book and want to find it a new home.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>

From camsat at vip.163.com  Mon Jul  8 18:05:00 2019
From: camsat at vip.163.com (Alan Kung)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 02:05:00 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B)  TLE
Message-ID: <590bc94b.8f0bb.16bd2c2a7a7.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>

Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 22, 2019, the launch vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206UTC.


CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U          19203.21831019 -.00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00008
2 99999 042.7339 005.2478 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575752000011


73
Alan, BA1DU



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From aa8ch at aol.com  Mon Jul  8 19:24:40 2019
From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:24:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN75/76/85/86 corner from earlier today
References: <355964717.2911735.1562613880391.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <355964717.2911735.1562613880391@mail.yahoo.com>

Hey, if you worked me on AO92 at 1625UTC or AO91 at 1655UTC today,?
please log as AA8CH/MM to get a match in LOTW.? Thanks for the QSOs!
Pictures /further details @charliehotel10 twitter.
73
Chris AA8CH

From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul  8 21:24:38 2019
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:24:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] object # for psat2
Message-ID: <1d8b01d535d3$8d239a70$a76acf50$@bellsouth.net>

What is the object # for psat2






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From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Mon Jul  8 21:19:35 2019
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Kees van Oosbree)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:19:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Carrying Case
Message-ID: <CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I've been looking for a new radio carrying case for my handheld radios.
Right now I use an old camera bag to hold the radios, so then I can hold
the antenna in one hand, and the speaker mic in the other hand.  This has
gotton complicated, however, because to adjust for doppler shift on my
radios, I have to rummage around in my bag to to find the radios and have
to push the buttons to change the frequency, which takes too much time.

Does anybody have any ideas for a cheap way to hold the radios so they are
easy to locate and don't take so much time to change the frequencies?

73 de KE0STO

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Jul  8 22:16:17 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 17:16:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
Message-ID: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>


For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware 
of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.

I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m 
during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor 
increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation 
had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and 
leave the lot.

The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.

I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the 
racket extended.

I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why

So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same 
time? :-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:20:23 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 18:20:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 TLE object number
Message-ID: <060511ddcbfb04f19966d9bf591b20cc@mail.gmail.com>

> What is the object # for psat2

Its either 44354, 355 or 375.  Those will certainly get you very close.
But they are too close for use to claim one.

BOb

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Mon Jul  8 22:21:17 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:21:17 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CACvjz2U=-p-hma3mEw3BJOJ2TeW_JfV+Qff=zjZyt22Wfg8aEA@mail.gmail.com>

We have a Nissan Leaf. Now that you describe this, I think I've seen the
same at home!

I have several friends with Teslas, and can get an i3 to characterize. If
you're interested write me off list and we can get some data, if you like.

-Michelle W5NYV




On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:17 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
> For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
> of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
>
> I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
> during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
> increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
> had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
> leave the lot.
>
> The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
>
> I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
> racket extended.
>
> I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
>
>
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
>
> So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> time? :-)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From alex at n7agf.com  Mon Jul  8 22:39:51 2019
From: alex at n7agf.com (Alex Free - N7AGF)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:39:51 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2U=-p-hma3mEw3BJOJ2TeW_JfV+Qff=zjZyt22Wfg8aEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
	<CACvjz2U=-p-hma3mEw3BJOJ2TeW_JfV+Qff=zjZyt22Wfg8aEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG8VDhqgVX9RAYj6WWAXMfDynAOoxmxF4LZByXzN8XB2obcdFg@mail.gmail.com>

Can confirm.  While roving, many FO-29 attempts have been partially wiped
out by me opening a door otherwise activating the MCU of my X.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:27 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> We have a Nissan Leaf. Now that you describe this, I think I've seen the
> same at home!
>
> I have several friends with Teslas, and can get an i3 to characterize. If
> you're interested write me off list and we can get some data, if you like.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:17 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
> > of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
> >
> > I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
> > during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
> > increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
> > had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
> > leave the lot.
> >
> > The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
> >
> > I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
> > racket extended.
> >
> > I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
> >
> > So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> > time? :-)
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From steve at wb8wsf.org  Tue Jul  9 02:30:52 2019
From: steve at wb8wsf.org (STeve Andre')
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:30:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>



On 7/8/19 6:16 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> 
> For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware 
> of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
> 
> I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m 
> during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor 
> increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation 
> had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and 
> leave the lot.
> 
> The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
> 
> I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the 
> racket extended.
> 
> I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
> 
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why 
> 
> 
> So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same 
> time? :-)
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO

Along these lines, I need a new car.  My Sonata has 404K miles and I 
would like to replace it before it dies.

I'm really looking at the Prius Prime +.  Does anyone know if this emits
obnoxious things, and how radio-friendly it is, overall?

Thanks!

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en72


From steve at wb8wsf.org  Tue Jul  9 02:45:11 2019
From: steve at wb8wsf.org (STeve Andre')
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:45:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Carrying Case
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f4799771-1de4-9fd2-8ab4-6ac6da170e8b@wb8wsf.org>



On 7/8/19 5:19 PM, Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've been looking for a new radio carrying case for my handheld radios.
> Right now I use an old camera bag to hold the radios, so then I can hold
> the antenna in one hand, and the speaker mic in the other hand.  This has
> gotton complicated, however, because to adjust for doppler shift on my
> radios, I have to rummage around in my bag to to find the radios and have
> to push the buttons to change the frequency, which takes too much time.
> 
> Does anybody have any ideas for a cheap way to hold the radios so they are
> easy to locate and don't take so much time to change the frequencies?
> 
> 73 de KE0STO

It isn't quite cheap, but Pelican makes a wide variety of cases to hold 
things.  I don't know the geometry of your radios, but I'm sure you 
could find a good fit.   I too looked for a cheap case to hold some
radios, and paid for it when it bounced down a staircase...

https://www.pelican.com/us/en/

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en72

From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 04:32:31 2019
From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger - W7TZ)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 21:32:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Carrying Case
In-Reply-To: <f4799771-1de4-9fd2-8ab4-6ac6da170e8b@wb8wsf.org>
References: <CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<f4799771-1de4-9fd2-8ab4-6ac6da170e8b@wb8wsf.org>
Message-ID: <CAEahN0KM96vNWCAys0_aKfQ6d0p=pSvxF+7=GW_sfOhvv2BORA@mail.gmail.com>

Coaxsher RCP-1 Pro Radio Chest Harness, Black, Regular | Feld Fire
Firefighting Gear
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73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
Grid Busters
w7tz.webs.com


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:26 PM STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On 7/8/19 5:19 PM, Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've been looking for a new radio carrying case for my handheld radios.
> > Right now I use an old camera bag to hold the radios, so then I can hold
> > the antenna in one hand, and the speaker mic in the other hand.  This has
> > gotton complicated, however, because to adjust for doppler shift on my
> > radios, I have to rummage around in my bag to to find the radios and have
> > to push the buttons to change the frequency, which takes too much time.
> >
> > Does anybody have any ideas for a cheap way to hold the radios so they
> are
> > easy to locate and don't take so much time to change the frequencies?
> >
> > 73 de KE0STO
>
> It isn't quite cheap, but Pelican makes a wide variety of cases to hold
> things.  I don't know the geometry of your radios, but I'm sure you
> could find a good fit.   I too looked for a cheap case to hold some
> radios, and paid for it when it bounced down a staircase...
>
> https://www.pelican.com/us/en/
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en72
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From tommypnq at centrum.cz  Tue Jul  9 06:41:43 2019
From: tommypnq at centrum.cz (=?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBVcmJhbmVj?=)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:41:43 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV/telemetry intervals?
In-Reply-To: <5f808cce-d5fc-70c3-dde6-f8df5f966880@msa.hinet.net>
References: <de2f8688-2ddb-14d3-b039-6ff1b9cbc85c@msa.hinet.net>
	<4ce4ea3b-c811-03f7-7cfe-963e74a5d6c5@msa.hinet.net>
	<CAJCSnOarZ5hjdQP81tVk3pmujkKHEDfEd719ufJZ38fMa48xeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f808cce-d5fc-70c3-dde6-f8df5f966880@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <a5c69f7c-e0e9-241c-0aa3-4d41eaaec35a@centrum.cz>

Hi Hans,
as you can see from documents mentioned above, the timing depends on 
battery voltage, which selects one of four operating modes, but 
basically we are lucky to be in highest mode A which means every 2 
minutes PSK telemetry and every second telementry frame is twice longer 
and contains also SSTV picture. All of this is overdriven by sunwire 
logic signal going low. That means no transmission on UHF downlink after 
going in eclipse for maximum of 30 minutes (failsafe timer).
If you will transmit on uplink and your signal will be sensed, it will 
switch on the downlink for the next 20s.
          Tomas OK2PNQ and Ales OK2ALP

Dne 6.7.2019 v 15:15 Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB napsal(a):
> Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that page, yet.
> 
> As for 2m: I have a nasty local case of interference here which wipes 
> out 145.825 in most directions (local electronic billboard), so I'm not 
> active with APRS.
> 
> BTW, what do you mean by NARROW-FM? I take it that it is the deviation 
> of the FM signal, with narrow being 2.5 kHz, right?
> 
> 73 de Hans
> 
> BX2ABT
> 
> 
> On 07/06/2019 09:42 AM, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> There is quite a bit of detail on the possible modes of PSAT-2 
>> operation at:
>>
>> https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md
>>
>> ... so far, I've seen both PSK31 and SSTV in the 70cm downlink.? However,
>> at such low elevations I am not getting enough signal to determine 
>> exactly
>> what the current pattern of operation is.
>>
>> However, on the 2m downlink (145.825), the activity has picked up each
>> night as the rising elevation makes PSAT-2 available to more folks.  
>> Please
>> remember to transmit in NARROW-FM mode and if your radio has CAT control
>> and you can doppler-correct your uplink, better yet.
>>
>> -Scott,? K4KDR
>>
>> ==========================
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:28 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB 
>> <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody knows? Here in east Asia some other hams are asking the same. We
>>> have good passes late at night (1400 UTC), but no PSK31 or SSTV seen at
>>> all. --Hans BX2ABT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/04/2019 10:48 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>> Hello all. At what intervals do the SSTV and PSK31 telemetry get
>>>> broadcast? Just had another good pass, saw some SSTV in the beginning,
>>>> but until LOS not a single blip heard. Same yesterday. What gives? 73
>>>> de Hans
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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>>
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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From tommypnq at centrum.cz  Tue Jul  9 06:55:52 2019
From: tommypnq at centrum.cz (=?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBVcmJhbmVj?=)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:55:52 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 PSK31 transponder operation
Message-ID: <2e06f32c-3037-18f9-9b80-e36a22787101@centrum.cz>

Hi all,
after our return from european field day this weekend, we sorted out 
through all available receptions of PSAT2 telemetry and SSTV.
As very valuable source we use the SatNOGS observations. There I have 
found several passes over US, were PSAT2 was transmitting because it 
sensed the PSK signals on uplink, and I have found two stations there 
and decoded their calls as W5SAT and K4KDR. Congrats gentlemen! If you 
can post the power/antenna used in experiments, it would be very 
valuable for us. Therefore we can state, that also the PSK31 uplink is 
in great shape and waiting for your further experiments.
              Tomas OK2PNQ and Ales OK2ALP

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 11:18:53 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 07:18:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 PSK31 transponder operation
In-Reply-To: <2e06f32c-3037-18f9-9b80-e36a22787101@centrum.cz>
References: <2e06f32c-3037-18f9-9b80-e36a22787101@centrum.cz>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOY_TW4AL33MzoYUJM++eP2toqcvh9kMJQnzVoWguD7mxg@mail.gmail.com>

Congrats on the success of PSAT-2,  Tomas & Ales!

Please note that KC9ELU has activated the PSK31 transponder on PSAT-2 as
well.

As for my setup, the location is grid FM17es (lat/lon = 37.7784 / -77.6093).

PSAT-2's elevation is quite low here, of course.  It's been great to see so
many stations work successfully through the 2m APRS digipeater, 2m
APRS-to-Voice engine, and 10m/70cm PSK31 transponder even with the
satellite's low orbit making things a challenge.

On my 10m uplink, I've been running 75w to a MyAntennas EFHW-8010 oriented
South-to-North and located on the North side of my house about 4 meters off
the ground.  Pretty much a worse-case scenario for communications to a
satellite so far to my South, I would think.  This 130 ft. long-wire type
of antenna was put up mainly for 80m NVIS work but does a great job on
other bands as well.  I think I'll put up some kind of vertical antenna for
10m when time permits to see if that improves my coverage to the South.

My 70cm receive setup is better, although I should mention that I'm
surrounded by heavy tree cover.  So, except at high elevations, I do much
better in the Fall/Winter than during the Spring/Summer months.  The 70cm
antenna here is a Wimo X-Quad on an AZ-EL rotator and benefits from an
SP-70 LNA at the base of the antenna.

The 10m/70cm PSK31 transponder on NO-84/PSAT, and now PSAT-2 is a great
challenge and a lot of fun to work.  Let's hope the addition of another
satellite with this capability prompts more people to enjoy it!

-Scott,  K4KDR

==============================

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:57 AM Tom?? Urbanec via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> after our return from european field day this weekend, we sorted out
> through all available receptions of PSAT2 telemetry and SSTV.
> As very valuable source we use the SatNOGS observations. There I have
> found several passes over US, were PSAT2 was transmitting because it
> sensed the PSK signals on uplink, and I have found two stations there
> and decoded their calls as W5SAT and K4KDR. Congrats gentlemen! If you
> can post the power/antenna used in experiments, it would be very
> valuable for us. Therefore we can state, that also the PSK31 uplink is
> in great shape and waiting for your further experiments.
>               Tomas OK2PNQ and Ales OK2ALP
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 12:12:40 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:12:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Carrying Case
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKNe63Q8Lfx=V7sxhYrxtUtpQ44Ya8UhGng=ZUT71Fn63A@mail.gmail.com>

Apologies if I've sent this to you before, but I used this:

https://www.niftyaccessories.com/HT_desk_stand.php

https://imgur.com/a/ygPjf#lZuL6TE

https://imgur.com/a/Ez7dL#UFHatyp

You could build something like that

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 5:30 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've been looking for a new radio carrying case for my handheld radios.
> Right now I use an old camera bag to hold the radios, so then I can hold
> the antenna in one hand, and the speaker mic in the other hand.  This has
> gotton complicated, however, because to adjust for doppler shift on my
> radios, I have to rummage around in my bag to to find the radios and have
> to push the buttons to change the frequency, which takes too much time.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas for a cheap way to hold the radios so they are
> easy to locate and don't take so much time to change the frequencies?
>
> 73 de KE0STO
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From danielh at holmesonics.com  Tue Jul  9 15:52:46 2019
From: danielh at holmesonics.com (Daniel Holmes)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 09:52:46 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
	<29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
Message-ID: <870746BF-4A91-46F5-9851-947E2BD3EC36@holmesonics.com>

Almost have to take a radio with you on the test drive. I found the LCD screen of my Jeep wipes out VHF if I have an HT in the car. If I have an antenna on the outside, it?s not a problem. But I didn?t discover it on the test drive, because I didn?t bother with the radio (and I usually have it off on a test drive so I can listen to the car anyway). I?m not sure I?d break it out while the salesman is standing there, but I?d certainly try to listen in at some point before signing on the dotted line.

Dan

--
Daniel Holmes, danielh at holmesonics.com
"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 8:30 PM, STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/8/19 6:16 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
>> I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and leave the lot.
>> The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
>> I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the racket extended.
>> I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
>> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same time? :-)
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
> 
> Along these lines, I need a new car.  My Sonata has 404K miles and I would like to replace it before it dies.
> 
> I'm really looking at the Prius Prime +.  Does anyone know if this emits
> obnoxious things, and how radio-friendly it is, overall?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en72
> 
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 17:35:29 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 21:35:29 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
Message-ID: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>

Dear All,

I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.

Thanking you beforehand.


Jean Marc (3B8DU)



From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Jul  9 17:44:18 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 12:44:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
In-Reply-To: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <831ff6f6-3bf1-e8ac-a4cc-c4bec507dccd@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-09 12:35, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.

Hello Jean Marc,

I am not aware of any legislation regarding SDR, applicable to FCC Part 
97 (Amateur Radio), in the USA. It doesn't matter if your transmitter is 
Software or Hardware modulated. (and, when we get right down to it, 
software is just a different way to wire hardware components together .. 
but I digress)

It is the effective emission that matters. If the transmitted signal has 
the appropriate bandwidth and meets the spurious emission limits, then 
there is no problem.

--- Zach
N0ZGO




From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 17:55:10 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 21:55:10 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
In-Reply-To: <831ff6f6-3bf1-e8ac-a4cc-c4bec507dccd@pobox.com>
References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
	<831ff6f6-3bf1-e8ac-a4cc-c4bec507dccd@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <DD54B51A-8D9D-41C9-B94C-174F1D025CD5@gmail.com>

Zach,

Thanks for the prompt feedback for US, really appreciated. I hope that others will also do so around the world.

73

Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2019-07-09 12:35, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
> 
> Hello Jean Marc,
> 
> I am not aware of any legislation regarding SDR, applicable to FCC Part 97 (Amateur Radio), in the USA. It doesn't matter if your transmitter is Software or Hardware modulated. (and, when we get right down to it, software is just a different way to wire hardware components together .. but I digress)
> 
> It is the effective emission that matters. If the transmitted signal has the appropriate bandwidth and meets the spurious emission limits, then there is no problem.
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
> 
> 
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From aa5uk at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  9 18:04:10 2019
From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 18:04:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
In-Reply-To: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
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 Hello Jean,
Have you looked at Wikipedia??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio
There may be some material that you can reference. 

73, Adrian AA5UK

    On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Dear All,

I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.

Thanking you beforehand.


Jean Marc (3B8DU)


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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jul  9 19:04:32 2019
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:04:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
In-Reply-To: <1166484035.3238761.1562695450949@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
	<1166484035.3238761.1562695450949@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Jean, I'm not aware of any country that has legislation specifically concering SDR's, certainly the UK doesn't.
However, I can see one potential pitfall. The UK permits any form of modulation (and any bandwidth) to be used, however, in some countries they mandate specific ITU Emission Designators in the licence. 

While on-air there is no difference between the same mode produced by different means the Emission Designators can be different. An old example of this used to be F1B and J2B for RTTY depending on whether direct frequency shift or audio tones to an SSB transmitter were used.

 The use of SDR's could theoretically result in Emission Designators that may not appear in the licenses of some countries

73 Trevor M5AKA

    On Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 19:07:04 BST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
  Hello Jean,
Have you looked at Wikipedia??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio
There may be some material that you can reference. 

73, Adrian AA5UK

? ? On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:? 
 
 Dear All,

I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.

Thanking you beforehand.


Jean Marc (3B8DU)


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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 19:25:41 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 23:25:41 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
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References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
	<1166484035.3238761.1562695450949@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1474597879.7587427.1562699072449@mail.yahoo.com>
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Trevor,

Thanks for the valuable input.

Here also there is no specific legislation about SDR, but the legislation includes a restriction about importing any equipment capable of intercepting any radio communication. The possession of same is not really forbidden legally and also there has been no case of prosecution against anyone in spite hundreds around. But in order to import legally same for promoting the hobby (for schools/Universities) and to encourage the legislators to change the law we need some arguments and this is the whole purpose of my mail, also to show the the best practices worldwide.

Thus feedback form one and all about their own legislation worldwide will be surely helpful.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:04 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Jean, I'm not aware of any country that has legislation specifically concering SDR's, certainly the UK doesn't.
> However, I can see one potential pitfall. The UK permits any form of modulation (and any bandwidth) to be used, however, in some countries they mandate specific ITU Emission Designators in the licence. 
> 
> While on-air there is no difference between the same mode produced by different means the Emission Designators can be different. An old example of this used to be F1B and J2B for RTTY depending on whether direct frequency shift or audio tones to an SSB transmitter were used.
> 
> The use of SDR's could theoretically result in Emission Designators that may not appear in the licenses of some countries
> 
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> 
>    On Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 19:07:04 BST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
>  Hello Jean,
> Have you looked at Wikipedia?   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio
> There may be some material that you can reference. 
> 
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
> 
>     On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
> 
> Thanking you beforehand.
> 
> 
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> 
> 
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From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 20:05:43 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 13:05:43 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
In-Reply-To: <F84752E1-FB34-45A4-AE5B-6945C46B0CE8@gmail.com>
References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
	<1166484035.3238761.1562695450949@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1474597879.7587427.1562699072449@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F84752E1-FB34-45A4-AE5B-6945C46B0CE8@gmail.com>
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You are concerned about the issues related to the case of Dr. Moncef Kartas?

-Michelle W5NYV




On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Trevor,
>
> Thanks for the valuable input.
>
> Here also there is no specific legislation about SDR, but the legislation
> includes a restriction about importing any equipment capable of
> intercepting any radio communication. The possession of same is not really
> forbidden legally and also there has been no case of prosecution against
> anyone in spite hundreds around. But in order to import legally same for
> promoting the hobby (for schools/Universities) and to encourage the
> legislators to change the law we need some arguments and this is the whole
> purpose of my mail, also to show the the best practices worldwide.
>
> Thus feedback form one and all about their own legislation worldwide will
> be surely helpful.
>
> 73
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
> > On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:04 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jean, I'm not aware of any country that has legislation specifically
> concering SDR's, certainly the UK doesn't.
> > However, I can see one potential pitfall. The UK permits any form of
> modulation (and any bandwidth) to be used, however, in some countries they
> mandate specific ITU Emission Designators in the licence.
> >
> > While on-air there is no difference between the same mode produced by
> different means the Emission Designators can be different. An old example
> of this used to be F1B and J2B for RTTY depending on whether direct
> frequency shift or audio tones to an SSB transmitter were used.
> >
> > The use of SDR's could theoretically result in Emission Designators that
> may not appear in the licenses of some countries
> >
> > 73 Trevor M5AKA
> >
> >    On Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 19:07:04 BST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Hello Jean,
> > Have you looked at Wikipedia?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio
> > There may be some material that you can reference.
> >
> > 73, Adrian AA5UK
> >
> >     On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about
> SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some
> discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help
> clearing some issues.
> >
> > Thanking you beforehand.
> >
> >
> > Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> >
> >
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 23:24:11 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:24:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
	<29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
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My Mom's Prius V definitely puts out some intermittent QRM I can hear on 2m
FM with my HT inside. I don't think it's enough to be a problem though.

I am looking to get a car and was looking at the Honda Insight which is
also a hybrid. I was planning on taking a second test drive but making the
salesperson drive it so I could tune around on the HT and check for
interference. Was also thinking of taking an SDR and laptop which would be
easier and more effective but I don't have one currently. That would
probably be their most unusual test drive but I'm sure they would
accommodate it since they want your money.

Now I'm thinking of getting a regular used car so I'm not as worried. But
I've definitely been passed by regular cars with my mobile on in the past
and gotten wiped out. It makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with their
car or how I'd deal with it if it was mine!

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 00:25 STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On 7/8/19 6:16 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >
> > For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
> > of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
> >
> > I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
> > during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
> > increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
> > had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
> > leave the lot.
> >
> > The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
> >
> > I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
> > racket extended.
> >
> > I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
> >
> >
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
> >
> >
> > So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> > time? :-)
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
>
> Along these lines, I need a new car.  My Sonata has 404K miles and I
> would like to replace it before it dies.
>
> I'm really looking at the Prius Prime +.  Does anyone know if this emits
> obnoxious things, and how radio-friendly it is, overall?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en72
>
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From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 23:28:23 2019
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 18:28:23 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKORTY2nbO2bEyh4bY03xGVHFHi2R43KFZ1BZfcWp8ej3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
	<29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
	<CALn0fKORTY2nbO2bEyh4bY03xGVHFHi2R43KFZ1BZfcWp8ej3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <974E5D82-E856-4E24-8FA0-BC02AB4A8BC6@gmail.com>

Typically worn out spark plug wires will cause a lot of QRM but as more cars use a coil on each cylinder this isn?t as much of a problem as it used to be. 

Jeff WE4B

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 6:24 PM, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> My Mom's Prius V definitely puts out some intermittent QRM I can hear on 2m
> FM with my HT inside. I don't think it's enough to be a problem though.
> 
> I am looking to get a car and was looking at the Honda Insight which is
> also a hybrid. I was planning on taking a second test drive but making the
> salesperson drive it so I could tune around on the HT and check for
> interference. Was also thinking of taking an SDR and laptop which would be
> easier and more effective but I don't have one currently. That would
> probably be their most unusual test drive but I'm sure they would
> accommodate it since they want your money.
> 
> Now I'm thinking of getting a regular used car so I'm not as worried. But
> I've definitely been passed by regular cars with my mobile on in the past
> and gotten wiped out. It makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with their
> car or how I'd deal with it if it was mine!
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> 
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 00:25 STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/8/19 6:16 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
>>> of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
>>> 
>>> I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
>>> during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
>>> increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
>>> had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
>>> leave the lot.
>>> 
>>> The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
>>> 
>>> I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
>>> racket extended.
>>> 
>>> I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
>>> time? :-)
>>> 
>>> --- Zach
>>> N0ZGO
>> 
>> Along these lines, I need a new car.  My Sonata has 404K miles and I
>> would like to replace it before it dies.
>> 
>> I'm really looking at the Prius Prime +.  Does anyone know if this emits
>> obnoxious things, and how radio-friendly it is, overall?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> --STeve Andre'
>> wb8wsf  en72
>> 
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From aj9n at aol.com  Wed Jul 10 01:56:35 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-10 02:00
	UTC
References: <722343484.3383180.1562723795785.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <722343484.3383180.1562723795785@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-10 02:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via TBD (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact is go for Thu 2019-07-11 20:30 UTC ======================================================================

Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via TBD (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact is go for Tue 2019-07-16 19:35 UTC ======================================================================

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-10 02:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-03 19:00 UTC. 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 118 

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1322. 

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1265. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From brad.schumacher66 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 03:11:44 2019
From: brad.schumacher66 at gmail.com (Brad Schumacher)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 20:11:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 PSK31 transponder operation
Message-ID: <00ac01d536cd$34b43ac0$9e1cb040$@gmail.com>

I have been able to activate the PSK31 transponder with as little as 20
watts when the satellite was at TCA and about 80 watts when closer to the
horizon.  

 

I am using a Zero-Five 10-40GP vertical antenna which is about 27 feet in
length.

 

I learned that the PSK-31 will continue to run even when the SSTV is active.


If the PSK-31 receive audio is kept between about 500 Hz to 1000 Hz and
above about 2500 Hz it will not get interfered with from the SSTV
transmission. In other words, set the 10 Meter uplink between 29.4785 and
29.4790 or between about 29.4805 and 29.4810 to stay out of the SSTV audio
range. 

 

Thanks
Brad Schumacher
W5SAT

 

 

Thanks,

 

Brad Schumacher

307-631-6436

 



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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 05:48:52 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:48:52 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR legislation
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2XFzT5_JnPTDw6b3uzGW1wH7Y-5ZRJqDF7egApFmy5Yxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4020B5B3-F51A-4E04-B290-A571938C6C94@gmail.com>
	<1166484035.3238761.1562695450949@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1474597879.7587427.1562699072449@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F84752E1-FB34-45A4-AE5B-6945C46B0CE8@gmail.com>
	<CACvjz2XFzT5_JnPTDw6b3uzGW1wH7Y-5ZRJqDF7egApFmy5Yxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <595E42E6-8D3C-46F9-B859-15CDF3832E2C@gmail.com>

Michelle,

Not at all, I was not even aware of it and just read his story after receiving your mail.

The purpose of my research about legislation on SDR is purely to enable official importation of same here as the ICT Act here presently forbid importation of any equipment (vague wording) which may be use to intercept radio communication. Depending on interpretation a SDR may be construed as falling in this category, to note that possession of same or using it is not an offense under the law here (except if you misuse information collected).

I am working on a project to equip many schools with receiving ground station (VHF-UHF) to promote education and Radio Ham, therefore need to import may SDR.

Thanks for the info.

73



Jean Marc



> On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dr. Moncef Kartas


From peteragreen at me.com  Wed Jul 10 08:06:01 2019
From: peteragreen at me.com (Peter Green)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:06:01 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Neil Armstrong - Radio ham?
Message-ID: <9106216F-CE8F-43AE-892A-8C5F203A49FF@me.com>


Last evening I went to the premiere of the documentary film Armstrong, which charts a life of astronaut Neil Armstrong.



Throughout the film it shows his home in Wapakoneta Ohio on numerous occasions throughout the film. Attached to this house is a mast with a beam antenna and in the garden are several vertical antennas.



I cannot see any mention of Neil Armstrong being a radio ham so does anybody know if the current owner of the house is a radio ham or perhaps this is just a random house that happens to have a mast and antennas?



Best 73

Pete G0ABI 


Sent from my iPhone

From nanrspm at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 08:22:05 2019
From: nanrspm at gmail.com (Tanan Rangseeprom)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:22:05 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Urgently seeking row data of JAISAT-1 satellite.
Message-ID: <CAMw-yOU_UzDNj25Eb=B1NshEkBhcLLEzEtrznGL-fDxLYXaoWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear AMSAT member,

Firstly, thanks for sending a congratulatory message to the Radio Amateur
Society of Thailand under the Patronage of His Majesty the King (RAST) for
the successful launch of the JAISAT-1 Satellite. The JAISAT-1 Project team
has been informed by RAST President Dr Jakkree Hantongkom who had direct
contacted to German Orbital Systems (GOS) which had informed him of
problems relating to the beacon of the JAISAT-1 satellite and currently the
JAISAT-1 satellite is in the process of the commissioning of various
systems and getting them ready for use.

GOS needs to use the beacon on the frequency of 435.700 MHz first before
commissioning various systems for three satellites, namely JAISAT-1,
LightSat and EXOCONNEXT, which are all using the Dstar One platform. In
order for ease of control and to complete the commissioning of various
functions it is necessary for GOS to use the Engineering Frequency of
435.700 MHz while the three satellites have orbits spaced apart allowing
for GOS to adjust the operating frequencies separately. For JAISAT-1 the
frequency is 435.325 MHz for as has been assigned by the IARU for the
control of satellite operations.

For the JAISAT-1 satellite, RAST has received funds from the NBTC's
Broadcasting and Telecommunications Research and Development Fund for the
Public Interest (BTFP) with support being made in periodic payments.
According to the satellite progress report, RAST will be obliged to pay GOS
a fee as a guarantee for successfully sending the satellite into space and
to achieve this RAST needs to file a report to the BTFP in order to receive
the funding for this payment.

Consequently, RAST is making request for urgent assistance from AMSAT
members around the world to listen for the JAISAT-1 Beacon signal on
435.700 MHz in GMSK Mobitex 4K8 mode, according to the advice  from Mr Vlad
Choreny as follows (Frames 1 in row 11):

11 (0x0B)  - LightSat UHF1
12 (0x0C)  - LightSat UHF2

41 (0x29)  - JAISAT UHF1
42 (0x2A)  - JAISAT UHF2

51 (0x33)  - EXO connect UHF1
52 (0x34)  - EXO connect UHF2

The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand (RAST) and the JAISAT-1 Project Team
are urgently seeking row data that can be received from all packets
worldwide. Please send Row data and KSS files to RAST by email at
jaisatonetele at gmail.com so that RAST will be able to report the reception
of signals from around the world to submit in a report to the BTFP to
demonstrate that the GOS commissioning of all functions is complete up to
and including the testing of the Linear Transponder in Mode-J that we will
ask AMSAT members to test in the future.

RAST therefore requests AMSAT members worldwide to gather information and
send the details to RAST so that the society will be able to submit a
report to the BTFP fund so that it will grant the final payment for GOS.
With the JAISAT-1 launch, RAST has enabled AMSAT members worldwide to use
the JAISAT-1 from now on.

Please be informed accordingly.
Sincerely and with respect

Tanan Rangseeprom
Project Manager of JAISAt-1

From vk1pe.peter at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 13:13:44 2019
From: vk1pe.peter at gmail.com (Peter Ellis)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 23:13:44 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] RPi 4 (V1)
Message-ID: <CAPvf-K+Sw1TmNGq=XZ+LHMQiwcWtNNn1C2Yma+nsbbAy5qJGTg@mail.gmail.com>

For the information of electronics hobbyists....
BEWARE: There is a problem with Raspberry Pi 4 (version 1)
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/your-new-raspberry-pi-4-wont-power-on-usb-c-cable-problem-now-officially-confirmed/

Peter
VK1PE

From fmhillhouse at comcast.net  Wed Jul 10 13:50:32 2019
From: fmhillhouse at comcast.net (Fred Hillhouse)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:50:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
Message-ID: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>

Greetings,

According to http://www.aprs.org/iss-faq.html
WHAT PATH DO I USE?
All APRS satellites and the ISS support the generic paths of ARISS or
APRSAT. Since all of these satellites supports the same generic paths (when
properly configured), this means you can operate either ISS or PCsat or PSAT
without reconfiguring your TNC! Just set your UNPROTO path to APRS VIA ARISS
and it should work with all APRS birds.

And: http://aprs.org/psat2.html
Sister APRS Satellites: Other APRS transponder satellites on orbit or in
work all share a common uplink, a generic digipeter alias (APRSAT and ARISS)
and a common downlink (145.825 MHz) so all user traffic appears on the live
APRS satellite downlink page and ISS downlink page. The graphic below shows
how the commonality of all this operaation integrates together with
worldwide users and the internet linked ground stations.

Are these statements really true?
If so, why would I consider using the PATH of PFS3-1 for FalconSAT-3 or
RS0ISS for ISS?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH






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From nanrspm at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 14:22:38 2019
From: nanrspm at gmail.com (Tanan Rangseeprom)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:22:38 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for urgent to listen for the JAISAT-1 raw datal
Message-ID: <CAMw-yOWfV=3ENUCym0syt+r=eWUXHkJ8H3EMCuN-XSQRG=op3A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear  AMSAT member

The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand (RAST) and the JAISAT-1 Team  is
request for urgent assistance from AMSAT members around the world to listen
for the JAISAT-1 Beacon signal on 435.700 MHz in GMSK Mobitex 4800 bps mode
for JAISAT-1 used frames 1 in row 11

41 (0x29)  - JAISAT UHF1
42 (0x2A)  - JAISAT UHF2

2019-07-08 20:00:55.630 UTC: [128 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0x29
   1 > C0 00 00 80 04 00 00 00 00 00 29 06 6C A3 69 77 23 5D 03 00
  21 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 3A 00 C5 09 44 0C 6C 0A 8F 0B 44 00 08
  41 > 00 05 00 01 07 9B 06 B9 00 0E 06 7D 00 05 00 0B 00 03 00 05
  61 > 00 9F 00 06 00 07 00 06 00 05 00 0F 00 05 00 03 00 00 00 01
  81 > 00 00 00 06 06 2C 0A 40 00 09 E0 00 03 00 AD 99 00 00 0A BA
 101 > 03 00 00 5C 02 01 10 01 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 71 DB
 121 > DC AA FF FF FF FF BB C0

Please send raw data and KSS files to RAST by email :
jaisatonetele at gmail.com and please use 2019-038H for tracking JAISAT-1
satellite. This is the following link that you can download software decode
:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rh9dlz086g2eiqr/AACJR97tTjemEH7JUu1xkaw1a?dl=0

2019-038H
1 44393U 19038H   19190.93248769  .00000295  00000-0  20832-4 0  9997
2 44393  97.4878 152.7961 0020703 233.1644 126.7690 15.12067899   676

Example of signals in this format can be found with the the reception of
signals from the satellite links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOax6_bSKi0

All amateur radio operators capable of receiving signals from the JAISAT-1
satellite are invited to send the data by email to jaisatonetele at gmail.com
and the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand will have a SWL card to confirm
reception.

Sincerely and with respect.

Tanan Rangseeprom, HS1JAN
Project Manager of JAISAT-1

From va6bmj at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 15:59:49 2019
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:59:49 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] RPi 4 (V1)
In-Reply-To: <CAPvf-K+Sw1TmNGq=XZ+LHMQiwcWtNNn1C2Yma+nsbbAy5qJGTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPvf-K+Sw1TmNGq=XZ+LHMQiwcWtNNn1C2Yma+nsbbAy5qJGTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkPG8Oy-Fc9tbRjq07kcr2D+4CUtgrT+46OFzc23_knNyg@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/10/19, Peter Ellis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> For the information of electronics hobbyists....
> BEWARE: There is a problem with Raspberry Pi 4 (version 1)
> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/your-new-raspberry-pi-4-wont-power-on-usb-c-cable-problem-now-officially-confirmed/

<snip>

More information about the Raspberry Pi 4's performance and problems
is available at:

https://www.hackaday.com

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From ai6do at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 10 16:10:32 2019
From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:10:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>

 FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband at different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want to be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.?

73, Ryan AI6DO


    On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 6:53:47 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Greetings,

According to http://www.aprs.org/iss-faq.html
WHAT PATH DO I USE?
All APRS satellites and the ISS support the generic paths of ARISS or
APRSAT. Since all of these satellites supports the same generic paths (when
properly configured), this means you can operate either ISS or PCsat or PSAT
without reconfiguring your TNC! Just set your UNPROTO path to APRS VIA ARISS
and it should work with all APRS birds.

And: http://aprs.org/psat2.html
Sister APRS Satellites: Other APRS transponder satellites on orbit or in
work all share a common uplink, a generic digipeter alias (APRSAT and ARISS)
and a common downlink (145.825 MHz) so all user traffic appears on the live
APRS satellite downlink page and ISS downlink page. The graphic below shows
how the commonality of all this operaation integrates together with
worldwide users and the internet linked ground stations.

Are these statements really true?
If so, why would I consider using the PATH of PFS3-1 for FalconSAT-3 or
RS0ISS for ISS?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH

  

From fmhillhouse at comcast.net  Wed Jul 10 17:09:32 2019
From: fmhillhouse at comcast.net (Fred Hillhouse)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:09:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>

Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you are saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other qualifier I have missed?

PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:

Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
User Station Software Configuration: 
First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler on the uplink.

The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT (D72) as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite is the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get information out.

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs

 FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband at different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want to be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH. 

73, Ryan AI6DO


    On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 6:53:47 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Greetings,

According to http://www.aprs.org/iss-faq.html
WHAT PATH DO I USE?
All APRS satellites and the ISS support the generic paths of ARISS or
APRSAT. Since all of these satellites supports the same generic paths (when
properly configured), this means you can operate either ISS or PCsat or PSAT
without reconfiguring your TNC! Just set your UNPROTO path to APRS VIA ARISS
and it should work with all APRS birds.

And: http://aprs.org/psat2.html
Sister APRS Satellites: Other APRS transponder satellites on orbit or in
work all share a common uplink, a generic digipeter alias (APRSAT and ARISS)
and a common downlink (145.825 MHz) so all user traffic appears on the live
APRS satellite downlink page and ISS downlink page. The graphic below shows
how the commonality of all this operaation integrates together with
worldwide users and the internet linked ground stations.

Are these statements really true?
If so, why would I consider using the PATH of PFS3-1 for FalconSAT-3 or
RS0ISS for ISS?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH

  
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From n8fgv at usa.net  Wed Jul 10 17:35:42 2019
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:35:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Neil Armstrong - Radio ham?
Message-ID: <389XgJRIQ6416Set.1562780142@web06.cms.usa.net>

I think if Neil Armstrong had been a ham we would have heard about it long
ago. He also has not lived in the family house in Wapakoneta since he was a
boy, so any antennas must belong to a subsequent owner. 

Many houses in the rural parts of Ohio have fairly tall towers with television
antennas for TV reception far from the cities. Residents of Wapakoneta might
be far enough from the TV transmitters to benefit from such a tower. 

73, Dan N8FGV

------Original Message------
>I cannot see any mention of Neil Armstrong being a radio ham so does anybody
>know if the current owner of the house is a radio ham or perhaps this is just
a
>random house that happens to have a mast and antennas?
>Best 73 Pete G0ABI 




From n8fgv at usa.net  Wed Jul 10 17:38:38 2019
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:38:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
Message-ID: <785XgJRlM3760Set.1562780318@web08.cms.usa.net>

So BMW can't build a car that meets EMI specs so they just turn off the AM
reception and hope that nobody notices? Are there no EMI regulations in
Germany? Or maybe its the same mindset that allowed Volkswagen to cheat on
their smog emissions by using engine software to trick the inspectors. 

If they can successfully claim that AM radio is obsolete, others might claim
that Amateur Radio is obsolete when we try to complain about interference to
our service. Or maybe the cell providers would like to force everyone to
stream their news online so that we pay for our data service. 

The reason that US cars don't have "HD Radio" installed is that the satellite
radio providers signed agreements with automakers to put satellite receivers
in cars and they don't want to install a free service that might take
customers away from subscription based satellite radio services. That plus the
fact that "HD Radio" in the USA is a proprietary system that requires payment
of licensing fees to iBiquity Inc, unlike Europe's open source digital radio
standard. 

If we don't demand that technology providers observe some level of social
reponsibility they will likely argue that the benefits of their new technology
will outweigh the loss of "obsolete technology" and the public might accept
that argument instead of asking them to spend a little more money to clean up
their pollution. 

Dan Schultz N8FGV

------Original Message------
>I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
>https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
>So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same time?
:-)
>--- Zach N0ZGO




From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jul 10 18:07:23 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:07:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6cd33f4c1bc337bd64c85f2ae58881ac@mail.gmail.com>

> If so, why would I consider using the PATH of PFS3-1 for FalconSAT-3 or
RS0ISS for ISS?

Here is the APRS satellite Sujmmary:
See http://aprs.org/sats.html

FALCONSAT is not a generic APRS satellite on 145.825 like the others And
was only turned over to APRS digipeating after it finished it original
mission.  It has a different frequency, a different modem (9600 baud) and
is full duplex and is not identified as being a "generic" digipeater with
those aliases. But it is a great new capability for Mobiles (the only 9600
baud APRS satellite).

The APRSAT and ARISS aliases will work with ISS as long as the kenwood
radio is acting as the TNC because it can support multiple aliases. But
sometimes, the backup TNC is used (going back a decade) and in that case,
it only supports the RS0ISS call and not the added APRSAT and ARISS
aliases.

Hope that helps.
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 9:51 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs

Greetings,

According to http://www.aprs.org/iss-faq.html WHAT PATH DO I USE?
All APRS satellites and the ISS support the generic paths of ARISS or
APRSAT. Since all of these satellites supports the same generic paths
(when properly configured), this means you can operate either ISS or PCsat
or PSAT without reconfiguring your TNC! Just set your UNPROTO path to APRS
VIA ARISS and it should work with all APRS birds.

And: http://aprs.org/psat2.html
Sister APRS Satellites: Other APRS transponder satellites on orbit or in
work all share a common uplink, a generic digipeter alias (APRSAT and
ARISS) and a common downlink (145.825 MHz) so all user traffic appears on
the live APRS satellite downlink page and ISS downlink page. The graphic
below shows how the commonality of all this operaation integrates together
with worldwide users and the internet linked ground stations.

Are these statements really true?
If so, why would I consider using the PATH of PFS3-1 for FalconSAT-3 or
RS0ISS for ISS?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH






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From ai6do at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 10 18:37:10 2019
From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:37:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
	<16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>

 Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic ARISS or APRSAT paths.??

Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least there are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done it a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.?

Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode, but the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode and enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't know if 5 kHz steps will cut it.??

73, Ryan AI6DO

    On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you are saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other qualifier I have missed?

PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:

Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
User Station Software Configuration: 
First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler on the uplink.

The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT (D72) as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite is the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get information out.

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs

 FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband at different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want to be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH. 

73, Ryan AI6DO

  

From nanrspm at gmail.com  Wed Jul 10 19:19:03 2019
From: nanrspm at gmail.com (Tanan Rangseeprom)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 02:19:03 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for urgent to listen
Message-ID: <CAMw-yOX3wqAO1tZ3M2Mw=96y9n9NyGTVHPaL-VS=TFkqQGShOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear  AMSAT member

The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand (RAST) and the JAISAT-1 Team  is
request for urgent assistance from AMSAT members around the world to listen
for the JAISAT-1 Beacon signal on 435.700 MHz in GMSK Mobitex 4800 bps mode
for JAISAT-1 used frames 1 in row 11

41 (0x29)  - JAISAT UHF1
42 (0x2A)  - JAISAT UHF2

2019-07-08 20:00:55.630 UTC: [128 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
   1 > C0 00 00 80 04 00 00 00 00 00 29 06 6C A3 69 77 23 5D 03 00
  21 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 3A 00 C5 09 44 0C 6C 0A 8F 0B 44 00 08
  41 > 00 05 00 01 07 9B 06 B9 00 0E 06 7D 00 05 00 0B 00 03 00 05
  61 > 00 9F 00 06 00 07 00 06 00 05 00 0F 00 05 00 03 00 00 00 01
  81 > 00 00 00 06 06 2C 0A 40 00 09 E0 00 03 00 AD 99 00 00 0A BA
 101 > 03 00 00 5C 02 01 10 01 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 71 DB
 121 > DC AA FF FF FF FF BB C0

Please send raw data and KSS files to RAST by email :
jaisatonetele at gmail.com and please use 2019-038H for tracking JAISAT-1
satellite. This is the following link that you can download software decode
:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rh9dlz086g2eiqr/AACJR97tTjemEH7JUu1xkaw1a?dl=0

2019-038H
1 44393U 19038H   19190.93248769  .00000295  00000-0  20832-4 0  9997
2 44393  97.4878 152.7961 0020703 233.1644 126.7690 15.12067899   676

Example of signals in this format can be found with the the reception of
signals from the satellite links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOax6_bSKi0

Sincerely and with respect.

Tanan Rangseeprom, HS1JAN
Project Manager of JAISAT-1

From ke4al at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 11 02:16:17 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 02:16:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Posting to AMSAT-BB with Unsubscribed Email Account
References: <932448063.177303.1562811377996.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <932448063.177303.1562811377996@mail.yahoo.com>


There has been an increasing trend on AMSAT-BB, wheresubscribers are posting to the BB with an email other than they one they usedto subscribe to the list.? Usually these listmembers signed up with redirect email account (@amsat.org or @arrl.net), but attemptto post a message from their personal account.?Others, who have multiple email accounts accidentally select the wrongone.? When either of these situationsoccur, their post is put in quarantine until a list moderator physically logs in andclears it out.

Your quarantined message is not alone. ?AMSAT-BB gets 300+ spam emails a day.? Each time a post is placed in quarantine, thelist moderators receives an email notification.?You can do the math to figure out how many emails we get each and everyday.

I bring this up to help you realize that clearing your emailis not a fast process.? We could take thetime to look up your name and/or call sign to make sure you are a subscriber,but, to be honest, this is not an easy process.?Instead, you will more than likely receive an email stating ?Non-membersare not allowed to post messages to this list.??The easy fix is just to resend you post from your subscribed emailaccount.? If you changed email accounts,please visit the AMSAT-BB Info page:? https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb.? From here you can log into your account andchange your email address.

Thank you for your understanding.

73,
Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services

From g0kla at arrl.net  Thu Jul 11 02:27:42 2019
From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 22:27:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
Message-ID: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>

For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking enabled
I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
October, and can compare.

This was a new feature and previously tracking of the high speed signal was
not great.  Let me know if it is better (or worse!)

73
Chris

-- 
Chris E. Thompson
chrisethompson at gmail.com
g0kla at arrl.net

From corlissbs at aol.com  Thu Jul 11 02:46:55 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Corlissbs)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:46:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Case
Message-ID: <CE7C6D6B-B245-42C3-9E6F-A89EA34FAB36@aol.com>

Harbor Freight has several cases that are Pelican ?knock-offs? and cost 1/3 the cost. I bought two and the quality is as good as Pelican. In fact, the ?pluck and pull? foam is actually better than Pelican?s. (I have several Pelican cases) I buy a case for every radio. It is good protection.  Brad KC9UQR 

Sent from Brad?s iPad

From aj9n at aol.com  Thu Jul 11 03:02:40 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 03:02:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-11 03:00
	UTC
References: <233612127.3742671.1562814160322.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <233612127.3742671.1562814160322@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-11 03:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Aerospace School of U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact is go for Thu 2019-07-11 20:30 UTC ======================================================================

Aerospace School of U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via TBD 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact is go for Tue 2019-07-16 19:35 UTC ======================================================================

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-11 03:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-03 19:00 UTC. 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 118 

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1322. 

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1265. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Thu Jul 11 03:27:26 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:27:26 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
In-Reply-To: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27e12bbf-de57-591d-2d11-797809473d53@msa.hinet.net>

I just received my first HS data from AO-92. Nothing was decoded using 
FoxTelem, but I got the IQ file to play around with. It was a low pass 
for me, so signals were only 20 db over noise using my AirSpy mini. That 
might be too little, although I can receive Falconsat-3 at those levels 
without any problems.

What are the settings to watch out for decoding HS data (deviation, 
soundcard, Foxtelem)? Or should it "just work"? The only difference I 
can see between FS-3 and AO-92 is that audio from GQRX is going out to 
PacSat Ground Station via UDP and Foxtelem gets it from GQRX via a 
virtual audio loop (set in Pavucontrol).

Still exited to receive AO-92 with HS data for the first time. I saw on 
Twitter that JA0CAW did get part of an image, so for him it did work.

73 de Hans

BX2ABT


On 07/11/2019 10:27 AM, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking enabled
> I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
> Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
> October, and can compare.
>
> This was a new feature and previously tracking of the high speed signal was
> not great.  Let me know if it is better (or worse!)
>
> 73
> Chris
>


From scott23192 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 03:47:09 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 23:47:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
In-Reply-To: <27e12bbf-de57-591d-2d11-797809473d53@msa.hinet.net>
References: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
	<27e12bbf-de57-591d-2d11-797809473d53@msa.hinet.net>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZxB3Y0Jkz4WdXgfS=vVqeQVvu_4Ah5vPwNfmbyTDwDdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Hans.

While not GQRX, if you'd like to use the screen shot of HDSDR in an old
tweet I posted some time ago, you can see the RF and Audio-Out bandwidth
settings required to successfully forward AO-92's high-speed data stream to
FoxTelem:

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/953288770555645952

... in short, around 20k worked well for both RF and Audio-Out.  15k is
usually perfect for most 9600 baud data, but to err on the side of caution
I had found that 20k produced good results with AO-92's camera data
stream.  The real deal-breaker for the higher data rates is filtering the
audio output at too narrow of a bandwidth.  That'll get you every time.

GQRX has a little "..." menu that's easy to overlook right beside the demod
MODE selection.  For a data stream like AO-92's you'll want either the 17k
or 25k setting.  Experiment and see what works best!

-Scott,  K4KDR

=======================

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:28 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I just received my first HS data from AO-92. Nothing was decoded using
> FoxTelem, but I got the IQ file to play around with. It was a low pass
> for me, so signals were only 20 db over noise using my AirSpy mini. That
> might be too little, although I can receive Falconsat-3 at those levels
> without any problems.
>
> What are the settings to watch out for decoding HS data (deviation,
> soundcard, Foxtelem)? Or should it "just work"? The only difference I
> can see between FS-3 and AO-92 is that audio from GQRX is going out to
> PacSat Ground Station via UDP and Foxtelem gets it from GQRX via a
> virtual audio loop (set in Pavucontrol).
>
> Still exited to receive AO-92 with HS data for the first time. I saw on
> Twitter that JA0CAW did get part of an image, so for him it did work.
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/11/2019 10:27 AM, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking
> enabled
> > I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
> > Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
> > October, and can compare.
> >
> > This was a new feature and previously tracking of the high speed signal
> was
> > not great.  Let me know if it is better (or worse!)
> >
> > 73
> > Chris
> >
>

From ns3l at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 11 11:03:55 2019
From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:03:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test
References: <1767501532.297678.1562843035880.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1767501532.297678.1562843035880@mail.yahoo.com>

Test
Steve NS3L

From nanrspm at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 15:08:05 2019
From: nanrspm at gmail.com (Tanan Rangseeprom)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 22:08:05 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Urgent News! object 2019-038F GOS confirm JAISAT-1
Message-ID: <CAMw-yOW2Z8aXYtEuwnbOCKkQYGnTwRYY0YnktN9VO=zWa-D3Tw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear AMSAT member

Urgently News!! RAST President Dr.Jakkree Hantongkom who had contacted
German Orbital Systems (GOS) which had informed of object 2019-038F confirm
JAISAT-1 satellite.

2019-038F
1 44419U 19038F   19190.66730395  .00001667  00000-0  10000-3 0  9996
2 44419  97.4914 152.5407 0020014 233.1737 126.7422 15.12176922   634

The JAISAT-1 Beacon signal on 435.700 MHz in GMSK Mobitex 4800 bps mode
code for JAISAT-1 frames 1 in row 11
41 (0x29)  - JAISAT UHF1
42 (0x2A)  - JAISAT UHF2

Example of signals in this format can be found with the the reception of
signals from the satellite.
links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FDoE0oaesY

The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand (RAST) and the JAISAT-1 Project Team
are urgently seeking raw data that can be received from all packets
worldwide. Please send raw data and KSS files to RAST by email at
jaisatonetele at gmail.com

Sincerely and with respect.

Tanan Rangseeprom, HS1JAN
Project Manager of JAISAT-1

From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 16:09:24 2019
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:09:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test
In-Reply-To: <1767501532.297678.1562843035880@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1767501532.297678.1562843035880.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1767501532.297678.1562843035880@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEWsTrMqS6fANaFh3ZugtVs4Uq7S4XCE5GMSG8Hwn+bWkwrnyg@mail.gmail.com>

congrats you passed.

Next time just send the message you actually want to send as the "test"

Less Clutter  please

Sean
AA0AN

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:04 AM Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Test
> Steve NS3L
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From mstyne at k2mts.org  Thu Jul 11 16:39:29 2019
From: mstyne at k2mts.org (Michael Styne)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:39:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
In-Reply-To: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BA6B75F1-2BDE-4BCC-9FE1-79ED18A27857@k2mts.org>

Chris,

I was unsuccessful using FoxTelem?s ?baked in? RTL-SDR support to copy HS TLM last night. Today, piping HDSDR into FoxTelem I copied 6 frames.

Will try HS again on the next pass but it?s marginal for me.

Windows 10; Java 8; 1.07y

73,
Mike

Michael Styne K2MTS
mstyne at k2mts.org

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 22:27, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking enabled
> I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
> Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
> October, and can compare.


From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Thu Jul 11 17:06:57 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 13:06:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
In-Reply-To: <BA6B75F1-2BDE-4BCC-9FE1-79ED18A27857@k2mts.org>
References: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BA6B75F1-2BDE-4BCC-9FE1-79ED18A27857@k2mts.org>
Message-ID: <000601d5380b$0ce18680$26a49380$@md.metrocast.net>

I snuck home for lunch today to copy the 71 degree pass over southern Maryland.  Great signal but too bad my Icom IC-9700 won't handle /pass that wide of bandwidth!  

Cal/N3CAL

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael Styne via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:39 PM
To: Chris Thompson
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode

Chris,

I was unsuccessful using FoxTelem?s ?baked in? RTL-SDR support to copy HS TLM last night. Today, piping HDSDR into FoxTelem I copied 6 frames.

Will try HS again on the next pass but it?s marginal for me.

Windows 10; Java 8; 1.07y

73,
Mike

Michael Styne K2MTS
mstyne at k2mts.org

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 22:27, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking enabled
> I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
> Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
> October, and can compare.

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From marklhammond at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 17:49:46 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 13:49:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
In-Reply-To: <000601d5380b$0ce18680$26a49380$@md.metrocast.net>
References: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BA6B75F1-2BDE-4BCC-9FE1-79ED18A27857@k2mts.org>
	<000601d5380b$0ce18680$26a49380$@md.metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyqPmkdW5L_cKPyCK561Mn_EnVe9BQjQRoROO0Y2k8iKfQ@mail.gmail.com>

It will I?m nearly certain. .  Use IF mode out the USB cable into Foxtelem!

Mark N8MH

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:15 PM Cal Spreitzer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I snuck home for lunch today to copy the 71 degree pass over southern
> Maryland.  Great signal but too bad my Icom IC-9700 won't handle /pass that
> wide of bandwidth!
>
> Cal/N3CAL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Styne via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:39 PM
> To: Chris Thompson
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
>
> Chris,
>
> I was unsuccessful using FoxTelem?s ?baked in? RTL-SDR support to copy HS
> TLM last night. Today, piping HDSDR into FoxTelem I copied 6 frames.
>
> Will try HS again on the next pass but it?s marginal for me.
>
> Windows 10; Java 8; 1.07y
>
> 73,
> Mike
>
> Michael Styne K2MTS
> mstyne at k2mts.org
>
> > On Jul 10, 2019, at 22:27, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking
> enabled
> > I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
> > Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
> > October, and can compare.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Thu Jul 11 18:03:49 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:03:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
In-Reply-To: <CAPRXzyqPmkdW5L_cKPyCK561Mn_EnVe9BQjQRoROO0Y2k8iKfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJOf0+tYWWUSe9OVr32NCZCqAJW4p2jxWz9JOs63yCEsBtfXgg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BA6B75F1-2BDE-4BCC-9FE1-79ED18A27857@k2mts.org>
	<000601d5380b$0ce18680$26a49380$@md.metrocast.net>
	<CAPRXzyqPmkdW5L_cKPyCK561Mn_EnVe9BQjQRoROO0Y2k8iKfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d53812$fe6275d0$fb276170$@md.metrocast.net>

Ok,  thanks Mark!  I will give it another try using IF mode out on USB with FM-Data selected and see what I get.  I read somewhere where you get about 16k that way but was thinking you need 20k for it to work?   
 
Cal/N3CAL
 
From: Mark L. Hammond [mailto:marklhammond at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:50 PM
To: Cal Spreitzer
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode
 
It will I?m nearly certain. .  Use IF mode out the USB cable into Foxtelem! 
 
Mark N8MH 
 
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:15 PM Cal Spreitzer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
I snuck home for lunch today to copy the 71 degree pass over southern Maryland.  Great signal but too bad my Icom IC-9700 won't handle /pass that wide of bandwidth!  

Cal/N3CAL

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael Styne via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:39 PM
To: Chris Thompson
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in Camera Mode

Chris,

I was unsuccessful using FoxTelem?s ?baked in? RTL-SDR support to copy HS TLM last night. Today, piping HDSDR into FoxTelem I copied 6 frames.

Will try HS again on the next pass but it?s marginal for me.

Windows 10; Java 8; 1.07y

73,
Mike

Michael Styne K2MTS
mstyne at k2mts.org

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 22:27, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> For anyone decoding images and using FoxTelem with Doppler Tracking enabled
> I would appreciate any feedback on how high speed data is being decoded.
> Especially if you decoded camera frames in previous runs, like last
> October, and can compare.

_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 19:06:31 2019
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Kees van Oosbree)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
Message-ID: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using only 2
Boafengs.  I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even AO-91
and 92.  I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
downlink.  However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full duplex on
SO-50.  Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?

73 de KE0STO

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jul 11 19:53:12 2019
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:53:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3d48ea9c4e5b8dfd84ddc258519506f4@etczone.com>

I use two Baofengs and an Arrow antenna on those satellites. For SO-50 I
have been using the Arrow diplexer as a bandpass filter between the 70
cm antenna and the 70 cm receiver. (Got that tip from someone on this
list.) I can't say that it's 100% effective, but it works most of the
time to give me duplex.  

If you already have the diplexer you may want to try that before you
shell out for a new radio. 

On the AOs I generally don't have a desense problem with 70 cm transmit
and 2 m receive. The radios are Baofeng UV82. 

Steve AI9IN 

On 2019-07-11 3:06 pm, Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using only 2
> Boafengs.  I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even AO-91
> and 92.  I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> downlink.  However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full duplex on
> SO-50.  Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
> 
> 73 de KE0STO
> _______________________________________________

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 22:52:35 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:52:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOWNwGfRh_qQD_kZZ_7_u7WmGA+i4fczjA49_VUjCaQjQ@mail.gmail.com>

The only full duplex radio on the market that doesn't desense* on
SO-50 is the Kenwood TH-D72. There are several out of production
radios that also work with it, like some revisions of the Icom IC-W32.

*I have a TH-D72 and I find I intermittently experience some desense
when I use full power. At low power (500 mW I believe) I never
experience desense. I know of one other person who has this problem.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:40 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using only 2
> Boafengs.  I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even AO-91
> and 92.  I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> downlink.  However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full duplex on
> SO-50.  Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
>
> 73 de KE0STO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 11 18:25:24 2019
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:25:24 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <785XgJRlM3760Set.1562780318@web08.cms.usa.net>
References: <785XgJRlM3760Set.1562780318@web08.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <8950294b-e897-4772-9368-5efff38eb3b4@yahoo.com>

HiBMW sez,

Our standards are very high and we don't offer a product that meets less than those high standards."

If they can't fix the noise, they have pretty low standards, IMHO.
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Jul 10, 2019, 10:53, at 10:53, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>So BMW can't build a car that meets EMI specs so they just turn off the
>AM
>reception and hope that nobody notices? Are there no EMI regulations in
>Germany? Or maybe its the same mindset that allowed Volkswagen to cheat
>on
>their smog emissions by using engine software to trick the inspectors. 
>
>If they can successfully claim that AM radio is obsolete, others might
>claim
>that Amateur Radio is obsolete when we try to complain about
>interference to
>our service. Or maybe the cell providers would like to force everyone
>to
>stream their news online so that we pay for our data service. 
>
>The reason that US cars don't have "HD Radio" installed is that the
>satellite
>radio providers signed agreements with automakers to put satellite
>receivers
>in cars and they don't want to install a free service that might take
>customers away from subscription based satellite radio services. That
>plus the
>fact that "HD Radio" in the USA is a proprietary system that requires
>payment
>of licensing fees to iBiquity Inc, unlike Europe's open source digital
>radio
>standard. 
>
>If we don't demand that technology providers observe some level of
>social
>reponsibility they will likely argue that the benefits of their new
>technology
>will outweigh the loss of "obsolete technology" and the public might
>accept
>that argument instead of asking them to spend a little more money to
>clean up
>their pollution. 
>
>Dan Schultz N8FGV
>
>------Original Message------
>>I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
>>https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
>>So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
>time?
>:-)
>>--- Zach N0ZGO
>
>
>
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From tnetcenter at gmail.com  Thu Jul 11 23:09:35 2019
From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:09:35 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <8950294b-e897-4772-9368-5efff38eb3b4@yahoo.com>
References: <785XgJRlM3760Set.1562780318@web08.cms.usa.net>
	<8950294b-e897-4772-9368-5efff38eb3b4@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALx_moQqT9EjNjJP7h4-G0S4Ed7Vo9OoTJc3nnGghi_cWsroow@mail.gmail.com>

It doesn't matter what their standards are - if they are manufacturing
products that emit harmful interference - it's on them to fix it!!  BY
LAW!!!

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:58 PM W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> HiBMW sez,
>
> Our standards are very high and we don't offer a product that meets less
> than those high standards."
>
> If they can't fix the noise, they have pretty low standards, IMHO.
> ?___
> Sent from my two way wrist watch
> 73 de W3AB/GEO
>
> On Jul 10, 2019, 10:53, at 10:53, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >So BMW can't build a car that meets EMI specs so they just turn off the
> >AM
> >reception and hope that nobody notices? Are there no EMI regulations in
> >Germany? Or maybe its the same mindset that allowed Volkswagen to cheat
> >on
> >their smog emissions by using engine software to trick the inspectors.
> >
> >If they can successfully claim that AM radio is obsolete, others might
> >claim
> >that Amateur Radio is obsolete when we try to complain about
> >interference to
> >our service. Or maybe the cell providers would like to force everyone
> >to
> >stream their news online so that we pay for our data service.
> >
> >The reason that US cars don't have "HD Radio" installed is that the
> >satellite
> >radio providers signed agreements with automakers to put satellite
> >receivers
> >in cars and they don't want to install a free service that might take
> >customers away from subscription based satellite radio services. That
> >plus the
> >fact that "HD Radio" in the USA is a proprietary system that requires
> >payment
> >of licensing fees to iBiquity Inc, unlike Europe's open source digital
> >radio
> >standard.
> >
> >If we don't demand that technology providers observe some level of
> >social
> >reponsibility they will likely argue that the benefits of their new
> >technology
> >will outweigh the loss of "obsolete technology" and the public might
> >accept
> >that argument instead of asking them to spend a little more money to
> >clean up
> >their pollution.
> >
> >Dan Schultz N8FGV
> >
> >------Original Message------
> >>I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
> >>
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
> >>So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> >time?
> >:-)
> >>--- Zach N0ZGO
> >
> >
> >
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From corlissbs at aol.com  Fri Jul 12 02:28:13 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Corlissbs)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:28:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HT Radio
Message-ID: <A16FA8AD-7116-4757-B44A-D3B51B2AEC9F@aol.com>

Kees, the Kenwood TH-D72A does SO-50; very well. I know it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. It will also send and receive packets to and from the birds, which I am learning to do. You have a great signal on the birds.

If you ever get a D72, I will help you set it up and learn to operate it.  I love mine.

Brad Smith KC9UQR 

Sent from Brad?s iPad

From awhitney42 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 12 15:50:51 2019
From: awhitney42 at yahoo.com (Adam Whitney)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:50:51 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] K0FFY in Iceland July 13-19
Message-ID: <AD879389-0887-4AE8-9155-292819F2DA89@yahoo.com>

I am taking my family (and my radios) to Iceland.  I?ll be staying in HP95 on July 13, IP15 on July 14-15, IP25 on July 16, IP03 on July 17-18, and HP94 on July 19. In total, I?ll be passing through HP93, HP94, HP95, IP03, IP05, IP13, IP14, IP15, IP24, IP25, IP35. There?s a lot to see, so passes will be best effort holiday-style & I?ll attempt to announce on Twitter shortly prior.  https://twitter.com/K0FFY_Radio

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Fri Jul 12 16:00:27 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 09:00:27 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <870746BF-4A91-46F5-9851-947E2BD3EC36@holmesonics.com>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
	<29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
	<870746BF-4A91-46F5-9851-947E2BD3EC36@holmesonics.com>
Message-ID: <CACvjz2UNCqVM7wtq4Au=djWuF1W+zcrm9kTL+a1tUQ6V4vTfYQ@mail.gmail.com>

I did some measurements on a 2011 Nissan Leaf while charging. The LED
lighting on the wall and disco ball motor directly above the car was
significantly louder than the noise from active charging (on 2m). The LCD
screen on the charger on the wall was somewhat noisy, but not as bad as the
LED lightbulb.

Similar results while driving around as a passenger. It's pretty quiet.
Haven't checked other bands yet while riding around.

Looking around for other cars and I found that my sewing machine is very
bad on 2m. Not much of a surprise given the type of motor involved, but
caught me off guard since I was focused on the garage and not the sewing
room!

The rise in the noise floor is death by a thousand cuts.

"I'll explain later" - Buckaroo Banzai

-Michelle W5NYV




On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:23 AM Daniel Holmes via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Almost have to take a radio with you on the test drive. I found the LCD
> screen of my Jeep wipes out VHF if I have an HT in the car. If I have an
> antenna on the outside, it?s not a problem. But I didn?t discover it on the
> test drive, because I didn?t bother with the radio (and I usually have it
> off on a test drive so I can listen to the car anyway). I?m not sure I?d
> break it out while the salesman is standing there, but I?d certainly try to
> listen in at some point before signing on the dotted line.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Daniel Holmes, danielh at holmesonics.com
> "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 2019, at 8:30 PM, STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/8/19 6:16 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >> For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
> of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
> >> I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
> during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
> increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
> had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and leave
> the lot.
> >> The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
> >> I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
> racket extended.
> >> I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
> >>
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-radio--but-why
> So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> time? :-)
> >> --- Zach
> >> N0ZGO
> >
> > Along these lines, I need a new car.  My Sonata has 404K miles and I
> would like to replace it before it dies.
> >
> > I'm really looking at the Prius Prime +.  Does anyone know if this emits
> > obnoxious things, and how radio-friendly it is, overall?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --STeve Andre'
> > wb8wsf  en72
> >
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Jul 12 16:53:46 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:53:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2UNCqVM7wtq4Au=djWuF1W+zcrm9kTL+a1tUQ6V4vTfYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@pobox.com>
	<29178fdc-7982-6bc6-763c-5b1fa7c96904@wb8wsf.org>
	<870746BF-4A91-46F5-9851-947E2BD3EC36@holmesonics.com>
	<CACvjz2UNCqVM7wtq4Au=djWuF1W+zcrm9kTL+a1tUQ6V4vTfYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f6f80ec-5249-fb88-cc9f-3aef0e7859ab@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-12 11:00, Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> The rise in the noise floor is death by a thousand cuts.

Indeed. Many semiconductor manufacturers who are concerned about meeting 
FCC spurious emissions for non-intentional radiators will include a 
"spread spectrum" option to dither the clock.

One has to ask: "If I took some fresh cow manure and spread it over your 
dinner plate thinly and evenly so that you could not see it, would that 
be better than just having it as a pile on the plate?"

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From ve3hls at gmail.com  Fri Jul 12 17:31:15 2019
From: ve3hls at gmail.com (Kenneth P Alexander)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 00:31:15 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] K0FFY in Iceland July 13-19
In-Reply-To: <AD879389-0887-4AE8-9155-292819F2DA89@yahoo.com>
References: <AD879389-0887-4AE8-9155-292819F2DA89@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPOM0dnmENjYcoDZW-rL7J1dJdNG+T5OF0duMwZbHuGALT3C+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Adam,

Iceland is a photographer's paradise!  I hope you left room to pack a good
camera and a few lenses!  I was terrible about taking pictures on my
roves.  I hope you'll do better!

Ken,
So Phisai, Thailand
Blog:  bueng-ken.com

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 22:55 Adam Whitney via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I am taking my family (and my radios) to Iceland.  I?ll be staying in HP95
> on July 13, IP15 on July 14-15, IP25 on July 16, IP03 on July 17-18, and
> HP94 on July 19. In total, I?ll be passing through HP93, HP94, HP95, IP03,
> IP05, IP13, IP14, IP15, IP24, IP25, IP35. There?s a lot to see, so passes
> will be best effort holiday-style & I?ll attempt to announce on Twitter
> shortly prior.  https://twitter.com/K0FFY_Radio
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 12 19:46:49 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 15:46:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 auto-reset
Message-ID: <5148a5563fcf2e45b2e12651b4fad084@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, PSAT2 auto-reset back to safe mode because we did not get the
"we're still here" command  uplinked in time.
Only modes available are PSK31 and SSTV.

We will try to restore normal operation on the next several orbits.
Normal mode should show status bits of 01000111.
Which has PSK31, SSTV, plus Digipeating plus APRS-to-Voice

http://aprs.org/psat2.html

Bob, Wb4aPR

From royldean at gmail.com  Fri Jul 12 21:14:36 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:14:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DopplerPSK and linux
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sUu7K7HQGXTBpgettmRrRDtvfv8jGNN6_hEvkaipXM3w@mail.gmail.com>

I get the following error when attempting to run DopplerPSK on Ubuntu:

Error: Could not find or load main class DopplerPSK.jar


Any clue as to what I may be missing?

--Roy
K3RLD

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 12 22:26:57 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:26:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Need two Virginia APRS rovers next Saturday!
Message-ID: <34e0ba5144fcec243570e18ffb938f25@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT Rovers:



We desperately need 2 APRS Mountaintop weekenders for 4 hours on Saturday
20 July for the Annual APRS Golden Packet event from Maine to Georgia along
the Appalachians.  Goal is APRS messages the full length and into Canada.



One needed station is in SW Virginia on top of Comers Rock near Wythville,
VA and one in Northern Va on Hawksbill Mountain east of Harrisonville, VA.
All of the other 15 mountains are signed up.



It is a 4 hour event 11 AM to 3 PM.  Both of these sites are drive-up
except for the last hundred yards or so to the best operating position.



http://aprs.org/hamtrails/comers-rock.html

http://aprs.org/hamtrails/hawksbill.html



Prove your APRS stuff! And enjoy the view and drive!

Full event details: http://aprs.org/at-golden-packet.html



PLUS, we will attempt PSAT2 relay on 3 passes during the event.  All others
hold off please.



Contact me.  Bruninga at usna dot edu

Bob, WB4APR

From rfhynd at gmail.com  Fri Jul 12 23:49:51 2019
From: rfhynd at gmail.com (Robert Hynd)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:49:51 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] No signal from FO 29
Message-ID: <A5D7A3BB-C8B3-4C8F-BD02-3220BE7CC67C@gmail.com>

Did not hear beacon and no signals thru the transponder.... not good. 

Bob N5URL 

Sent from my iPhone

From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Fri Jul 12 23:57:04 2019
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:57:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] No signal from FO 29
In-Reply-To: <A5D7A3BB-C8B3-4C8F-BD02-3220BE7CC67C@gmail.com>
References: <A5D7A3BB-C8B3-4C8F-BD02-3220BE7CC67C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F93060619BC34B2DAE59645D572DB4B9@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>

FO-29 has not been heard since 9 July.

https://www.amsat.org/status/

Glenn
AA5PK

-----Original Message----- 
From: Robert Hynd via AMSAT-BB 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 6:49 PM 
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Subject: [amsat-bb] No signal from FO 29 

Did not hear beacon and no signals thru the transponder.... not good. 

Bob N5URL 

Sent from my iPhone
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From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Sat Jul 13 01:47:24 2019
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Kees van Oosbree)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 20:47:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Activation in South Dakota
Message-ID: <CA+-4feOb3unUDa8VRnLJcDWHQsAiEv4auRYO-b=QQyjKxQTd4w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I will be activating EN12/EN13 grid line in Vermillion, South Dakota under
the callsign KE0STO.

The dates will be July 15-17, Monday-Wednesday of next week.  I might go
and activate other grids in SD when I have a chance on my road trip.

I will only be working the FM satellites.

Thank you!

73 de KE0STO

From ke4al at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 13 02:51:54 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 02:51:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Activation in South Dakota
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feOb3unUDa8VRnLJcDWHQsAiEv4auRYO-b=QQyjKxQTd4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOb3unUDa8VRnLJcDWHQsAiEv4auRYO-b=QQyjKxQTd4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <661524578.1224749.1562986314248@mail.yahoo.com>

Kees,
Thanks for the heads up.? I posted your trip to AMSAT's Upcoming Satellite Operations webpage:??https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/ and blasted it out on Twitter.? Feel free to update here on BB.? I'll make sure word gets out.
Have fun and safe travels.
73,
Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services
Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 

    On Friday, July 12, 2019, 08:48:12 PM CDT, Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Hello,

I will be activating EN12/EN13 grid line in Vermillion, South Dakota under
the callsign KE0STO.

The dates will be July 15-17, Monday-Wednesday of next week.? I might go
and activate other grids in SD when I have a chance on my road trip.

I will only be working the FM satellites.

Thank you!

73 de KE0STO
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 13 02:53:47 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 22:53:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DopplerPSK and linux
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2sUu7K7HQGXTBpgettmRrRDtvfv8jGNN6_hEvkaipXM3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2sUu7K7HQGXTBpgettmRrRDtvfv8jGNN6_hEvkaipXM3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOY71_rktmGqz1Aw1bvV=HiwUeeEu+15wyK-T9YP9q-TdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey!

I've not tried to use that program on the linux computer, but downloaded it
to see what you might be running into.

Are you trying to run that from the command line, or by clicking on it in
the GUI?

Have you marked the .jar file as executable?

Is the JAVA runtime installed on that PC?  ( javac -version )

-Scott,  K4KDR

=========================

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:16 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I get the following error when attempting to run DopplerPSK on Ubuntu:
>
> Error: Could not find or load main class DopplerPSK.jar
>
>
> Any clue as to what I may be missing?
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>

From aa8ch at aol.com  Sat Jul 13 11:28:04 2019
From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:28:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN87 today
References: <46915021.415582.1563017284761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46915021.415582.1563017284761@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi!
If you are in need of EN87, look for AA8CH/VE3 on FM/linear satellites this afternoon local.
QSL to LOTW as always.
73,
Chris AA8CH

From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Sat Jul 13 11:56:11 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:56:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN87 today
In-Reply-To: <46915021.415582.1563017284761@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <46915021.415582.1563017284761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<46915021.415582.1563017284761@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001d53971$f70befe0$e523cfa0$@metrocast.net>

Hi Chris,  yes I need EN87 so will be looking for you!  

73

Cal/N3CAL

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AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 7:28 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN87 today

Hi!
If you are in need of EN87, look for AA8CH/VE3 on FM/linear satellites this
afternoon local.
QSL to LOTW as always.
73,
Chris AA8CH
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From royldean at gmail.com  Sat Jul 13 15:35:11 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:35:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DopplerPSK and linux
Message-ID: <CADGPg2uja4ZzXhN3_P5C5XSjg8a6FXMs0=3R7+2cOKdAp1=5iA@mail.gmail.com>

Are you trying to run that from the command line, or by clicking on it in
> the GUI?


Tried both.   Double clicking results in about 2 seconds of the mouse
pointer turning into the ubuntu "busy" pointer, then nothing.
Running from command line "java DopplerPSK.jar" results in the one
line error.

> Have you marked the .jar file as executable?


looks ok:
 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dean dean 120002 Sep 19  2015 DopplerPSK.jar


> Is the JAVA runtime installed on that PC?  ( javac -version )


java version "1.8.0_201"

Ok, having written all that, it dawned upon me that AC2CZ's FoxTelem
runs perfectly and is also a .jar, so I inspected his "foxtelem" start
script to see how he starts FoxTelem.    His command line is "java
-jar FoxTelem.jar" - I wasn't using the "-jar" part.   DUH.

Just tried it with the following terminal command and it started!!
"java -jar DopplerPSK.jar"

Just another case of "OE" -> operator error.

--Roy
K3RLD

From g0kla at arrl.net  Sat Jul 13 16:53:38 2019
From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:53:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Fox Telemetry Server down for maintenance
Message-ID: <CAJOf0+tW5DnMkCd1OPiNR6daVsK1+8+oLCFfyeycsRk0FmPP9A@mail.gmail.com>

Telemetry will queue at your ground station and will be automatically
uploaded later. Totals on the web page will not update until then.

Email me with any questions.

73
Chris
g0kla

From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Sat Jul 13 17:57:13 2019
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Kees van Oosbree)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:57:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Activation in South Dakota
In-Reply-To: <661524578.1224749.1562986314248@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CA+-4feOb3unUDa8VRnLJcDWHQsAiEv4auRYO-b=QQyjKxQTd4w@mail.gmail.com>
	<661524578.1224749.1562986314248@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+-4fePtd2y8ggOsUhBk1aaHLienujHLSc8=NO8CgsoQz98jjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome, thanks Robert!

I am going to be a little busy on Monday, but will definitely do Tuesday
passes.
Here are the passes:


*AO-92:  Tuesday, July 16*
AOS-  16:42 UTC
TCA-  16:47 UTC               Max Elevation:  88 degrees
LOS-  16:53 UTC





*AO-91:  Tuesday, July 16*
AOS-  18:07 UTC
TCA-  18:13 UTC               Max Elevation:  89 degrees
LOS-  18:18 UTC



*SO-50:  Tuesday, July 16*
AOS-  18:15 UTC
TCA-  18:22 UTC               Max Elevation:  84 degrees
LOS-  18:29 UTC


These are only *Tuesday* passes.

I'll send out the other passes for this week when I get more information of
what we are doing in South Dakota.

Thank you all for your support.



73 de KE0STO







On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:51 PM Robert Bankston <ke4al at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Kees,
>
> Thanks for the heads up.  I posted your trip to AMSAT's Upcoming Satellite
> Operations webpage:
> https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/ and
> blasted it out on Twitter.  Feel free to update here on BB.  I'll make sure
> word gets out.
>
> Have fun and safe travels.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert Bankston, KE4AL
> AMSAT-NA VP of User Services
>
> Twitter:  @KE4ALabama
> Website:  KE4AL.wordpress.com
>
>
> On Friday, July 12, 2019, 08:48:12 PM CDT, Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I will be activating EN12/EN13 grid line in Vermillion, South Dakota under
> the callsign KE0STO.
>
> The dates will be July 15-17, Monday-Wednesday of next week.  I might go
> and activate other grids in SD when I have a chance on my road trip.
>
> I will only be working the FM satellites.
>
> Thank you!
>
> 73 de KE0STO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sat Jul 13 20:30:16 2019
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 04:30:16 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Plan
Message-ID: <6103f38a.1e87.16bed077160.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Here is the DSLWP-B UHF plan for the following days:


14 Jul 19:00 to 21:00
15 Jul 12:00 to 14:00
17 Jul 04:40 to 06:50
18 Jul 21:50 to 23:50
20 Jul 14:20 to 16:20
21 Jul 05:30 to 07:30


All time in UTC. GMSK on both freq & JT4G on 435.4. JT4G repeater message on 436.4 TBD.


SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html   

Online JT4G telemetry forwarder: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html   
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html 



VY TNX & 73!


Wei BG2BHC



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
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From ad0dx at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 13 21:44:24 2019
From: ad0dx at yahoo.com (Ron Bondy)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:44:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CM93 Santa Rosa Island Activation Aug 12 to 14, W6R
References: <93899815.529397.1563054264782.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <93899815.529397.1563054264782@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Everyone,
I will be activating grid CM93 Santa Rosa Island Aug 12 to 14 as W6R.? I will be active on both FM and Linear satellites.? I expect I will be able to tweet passes as I did last year.??
I should be able to start around 2200z on Mon Aug 12th and will finish up around 1900z on Wed Aug 14th.
Last year I worked 45 grid squares from Santa Rosa Island, and would really like to get VUCC from Santa Rosa Island this year if possible.
I will upload to LOTW within one week of returning home.? After Santa Rosa Island I'll be doing some bird watching / camping with my wife and I'm not sure about internet access while camping.
If you are new to satellites and are interested in the GridMaster award (work all 488 grids in the continental USA), this grid can be a little challenging because Santa Rosa Island is the only land mass in the grid.? It's not as rare as DM02, but I believe the last activation was Aug 2018 for 48 hours.

Cheers,
Ron, ad0dx

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jul 14 00:00:08 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:00:08 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-195 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrzjYhZb2tf-MnnP3DnYt=j-Qp6STgbVLRiUWz_1U6TuQ@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-195

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and
information service of AMSAT North America, The Radio
Amateur Satellite Corporation.  ANS publishes news related to Amateur
Radio in space including reports on the activities of a worldwide
group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in
designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and
digital Amateur Radio satellites.

The news feed on http://amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio
in space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat dot org.

In this edition:

* 2019 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Ballots Sent
* New Orbitrack iOS app free for Apollo 11 Anniversary
* Help Needed - JAISAT-1 Telemetry
* Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for July 11, 2019
* How to Support AMSAT
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* Satellite Shorts from All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-195.01
ANS-195 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 105.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
July 14, 2019
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-195.01

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    The 50th Anniversary AMSAT Space Symposium will be held
       October 18-20 in Arlington, VA. For details, see:

            https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/

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2019 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Ballots Sent

AMSAT members should expect to see ballots for the 2019 AMSAT Board of
Directors election arriving in their mailboxes. The ballots have been
sent for printing and will be mailed on or before July 15.

The 2019 AMSAT Board of Directors election will be conducted differ-
ently than in past elections. In previous years, the balloting process
was handled by multiple vendors. This year, AMSAT has contracted with
a single, independent party, ElectionBuddy, to conduct and fully
manage the election process.

You may cast your ballot by visiting a unique URL or utilizing the QR
code printed on the mailing. You also have the option of returning
your paper ballot in the supplied envelope to the AMSAT office. Please
do not  include any other correspondence in this envelope. It will be
opened only by ElectionBuddy.  If you do not receive your ballot, you
will need to contact ElectionBuddy via email: amsat at electionbuddy.com.

Individual candidates? statement of qualification (biographies) are
displayed on the ElectionBuddy website available to voters and are
available on AMSAT?s website:

https://www.amsat.org/2019-board-statements/

Because AMSAT has contracted ElectionBuddy for a fully managed
election, they will be voters? single point of contact regarding any
ballot issues. The AMSAT Secretary or Office Manager may direct you to
contact ElectionBuddy in situations deemed part of this fully managed
election.  Questions will not be answered on the AMSAT-BB or
organizational Social Media accounts.

In the previous election announcement, it was mentioned that voters
would have the option to request a special paper ballot. The election
process has been modified to eliminate this need. A single mailing has
been designed to better accommodate traditional and online voting.

Sincerely,
Clayton L. Coleman, W5PFG
AMSAT Secretary

[ANS thanks AMSAT Secretary Clayton Coleman, W5PFG, for the above
information.]

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New Orbitrack iOS app free for Apollo 11 Anniversary

n the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11?s first manned moon landing, a new
iOS app ? Orbitrack ? lets you explore the universe of spacecraft in
orbit around our home planet today, using cutting-edge augmented and
virtual reality technology.

Better yet: for just one day, July 20th, 2019, Orbitrack (normally
$4.99) will be offered for free on the iTunes Store.

>From the original developer of the award winning SkySafari? apps,
Orbitrack is the first new release from Southern Stars since 2014.
It includes spectacular new graphics, incredibly detailed 3D
spacecraft models, fascinating illustrated mission descriptions, and a
new database of more than 8,000 satellites updated daily from n2yo.com
and celestrak.com.

Orbitrack includes many classified military satellites, and SpaceX?s
new Starlink mega-communications-satellite constellation.  Both visual
and radio observers will appreciate Orbitrack?s up-to-date catalog,
which includes frequencies and call signs for amateur radio
satellites, and predicts satellite passes and Iridium flares.

Orbitrack?s brand new voice-controlled virtual reality mode works with
any iPhone-compatible VR headset.  And its rewritten augmented reaiity
(AR) capability lets you identify satellites passing across the sky in
real time, using you phone?s GPS, camera, and motion-sensing hardware.

Orbitrack supports the latest Apple hardware and showcases the latest
iOS technologies.  Southern Stars founder Tim DeBenedictis writes,
?When Neil Armstrong walked on the Moon, there were only 159
satellites in orbit.  Today, there are well over 40,000.  The
computing power of the entire lunar module would be dwarfed by today?s
smallest cell phones.  Offering our latest satellite tracking app for
free seemed a good way to celebrate the past, while also looking
forward to the future of spaceflight, both manned and unmanned.?

To download Orbitrack for iOS devices from the iTunes Store, follow
this link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/orbitrack/id1092984911?mt=8

Available today for iOS devices, Orbitrack will be available for
Android in the 2nd half of 2019.

[ANS thanks Southern Stars for the above information]

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      New 2019 AMSAT Apparel Now Available on the Web

 Didn't make it to Hamvention but you want the latest in AMSAT
 haberdashery? The new 2019 tee-shirts, polo shirts and hats are now
 available in the AMSAT online store.  Browse the styles and sizes
 online and put your order in today at

    https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-apparel/

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Help Needed - JAISAT-1 Telemetry

JAISAT-1, a 3U CubeSat developed by the Radio Amateur Society of
Thailand was launched on July 5, 2019. The satellite carries a VHF/
UHF linear transponder for amateur radio use.

The Radio Amateur Society of Thailand (RAST) and the JAISAT-1 Project
Teamare urgently seeking raw data that can be received from all
packets worldwide. Please send raw data and KSS files to RAST by email
at jaisatonetele at gmail.com.

The JAISAT-1 beacon signal is transmitted on 435.700 MHz in GMSK
Mobitex 4800 bps mode. Two other satellites on this launch also use
this engineering frequency.

The code for JAISAT-1 frames 1 in row 11 is:
41 (0x29)  - JAISAT UHF1
42 (0x2A)  - JAISAT UHF2

Example of signals in this format can be found with the the reception
of signals from the satellite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FDoE0oaesY

JAISAT-1 has been identified as 2019-038F. TLEs are below:

2019-038F
1 44419U 19038F   19190.66730395  .00001667  00000-0  10000-3 0  9996
2 44419  97.4914 152.5407 0020014 233.1737 126.7422 15.12176922   634


[ANS thanks Tanan Rangseeprom, HS1JAN, JAISAT Project Manager for the
above information.]

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             2019 marks AMSAT?s 50th Anniversary
              of Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
           To help celebrate, we are sponsoring the
            AMSAT 50th Anniversary Awards Program.
                Full details are available at
    https://www.amsat.org/amsat-50th-anniversary-awards-program/
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Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for July 11, 2019

The following Amateur Radio satellites have been removed from this
week's TLE distribution. They are part of the SpaceX Falcon Heavy
STP-2 launch of June 25,2019 at 06:30 GMT from launch pad LC-39A at
the Kennedy Space Center. They have been identified by Space-Track.

OBJECT B - NORAD CAT ID 44340 - NPSAT1 (Non-Radio Amateur)
OBJECT C - NORAD CAT ID 44341 - OTB (Non-Radio Amateur)
OBJECT E - NORAD CAT ID 44343 - FORMOSAT7-3/COSMIC2-3
(Non-Radio Amateur)

The following Amateur Radio satellite has been added to this week's
TLE distribution.

LightSail-2 - NORAD CAT ID 44420 - Separated from PROX-1, CAT ID 44330

[ANS thanks Ray Hoad, WA5QGD, AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager for the
above information.]

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      Purchase AMSAT gear on our Zazzle storefront.
         25% of the purchase price of each product goes
           towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space
             https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear

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How to Support AMSAT

AMSAT relies on the support of our members and the amateur radio
community to Keep Amateur Radio in Space.

How can you help?

* Join AMSAT
 Both you and AMSAT will benefit when you join. You get the AMSAT
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 and donations provide AMSAT?s primary support.
 Join today at
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* Become a Life Member
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 See https://www.amsat.org/product/lifetime-membership/ for details.

* Donate to AMSAT
 Make a one time or recurring donation to AMSAT today. Even as little
 as one dollar a month can make a difference!
 Donate today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

* Purchase AMSAT gear on our Zazzle storefront.
 AMSAT receives 25% of the price of each sale on AMSAT logo
 merchandise from our Zazzle storefront located at
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* Support AMSAT when you make purchases from Amazon! So far, AMSAT
 has received $3,913.29 from AmazonSmile. Search for "Radio Amateur
 Satellite Corporation"
 https://smile.amazon.com/ref=smi_ext_twt_dshb_smi

* Volunteer for AMSAT
 AMSAT relies on volunteers for nearly all of our activities. If you
 have an idea for how to help, please let us know, Details on
 volunteering can be found at
 https://www.amsat.org/volunteer-for-amsat/

[ANS thanks the AMSAT office for the above information.]

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    AMSAT and ARISS are currently supporting a FundRazr campaign
    to raise $150,000 for critical radio infrastructure upgrades
    on ISS. The upgrades are necessary to enable students to
    continue to talk to astronauts in space via Amateur Radio.
     We have reached a great milestone with $33,250 raised
    or about 17% towards our goal. This would not have been
         possible without your outstanding generosity!!

          For more information and to DONATE TODAY visit:

     https://fundrazr.com/arissnextgen?ref=ab_e7Htwa_ab_47IcJ9

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

+Iceland (HP93, HP94, HP95, IP03, IP05, IP13, IP14, IP15, IP24, IP25,
IP35) ? July 13-19, 2019
Adam, K0FFY, is taking his family (and his radios) to Iceland. He?ll
be staying in HP95 on July 13, IP15 on July 14-15, IP25 on July 16,
IP03 on July 17-18, and HP94 on July 19. In total, he?ll be passing
through HP93, HP94, HP95, IP03, IP05, IP13, IP14, IP15, IP24, IP25,
IP35. There?s a lot to see, so passes will be best effort & announced
on Twitter shortly prior.  https://twitter.com/K0FFY_Radio

+CY9 St. Paul Island (FN97) ? July 31 to August 8, 2019
CY9C will be on St. Paul Island July 31st through August 8th. This is
an all bands/mode dxpedition, with EME and Sats as well.  More info
available at http://cy9c.com/index.html.

+Washington Invasion (CN96/96 & DN06/07/17/17) ? August 9-10, 2019
Casey, KI7UNJ, will be heading North to invade the State of
Washington, August 9th and 10th. Keep an eye on Casey?s Twitter feed
for specific pass announcements: https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ

+St Pierre et Miquelon (GN16) ? August 10-18, 2019
A DXpedition is planned to St Pierre et Miquelon, August 10th
through the 18th. The team will operate as T05M will from Ile aux
Marins on 6-160m, but there is a possibility of some FM Satellites.
Keep an eye on their website for updates: http://fp2019.net/

+Santa Rosa Island, CA (CM93) ? August 12-14, 2019
Ron, AD0DX, is heading back to Santa Rosa Island, August 12th -14th.
When not distracted by the feathered-birds, Ron will be on FM and
linear satellites as W6R.  Keep an eye on Ron?s Twitter feed for
updates at the dates get closer.  https://twitter.com/ad0dx

Remember to check out W3ZM On the Road for additional upcoming
activations!

https://www.amsat.org/events/was-w3zm/

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, for the above information.]

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   AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
   radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
     be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Support AMSAT's
         projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

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Satellite Shorts from All Over

+FO-29 has been offline since approximately 22:00 UTC on July 9th.
The amateur satellite community awaits word from the satellite's
operator, JARL, on the situation.

+AMSAT Operations activated the Virginia Tech Camera on AO-92 on July
10th and July 11th in support of the ARRL Teachers Institute. Images
captured can be found at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4

+AMSAT Operations reports that AO-85 is shutting down each eclipse.
The satellite turns on several minutes after entering sunlight, when
voltages reach adequate levels to operate the satellite hardware.

+Virgin Orbit conducted a successful drop test of LauncherOne on July
10th. This was the final test prior to the first test flight of the
new air launch system. AMSAT's RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E is scheduled to
fly on the second launch of the LauncherOne, as early as late this
summer. Details on the test can be found at:
https://tinyurl.com/ANS-195-VO

+The AMSAT Board of Directors meeting minutes page was updated with
recent minutes.
https://www.amsat.org/minutes-of-the-board-of-directors/

+AMSAT financial audit/review reports and IRS Form 990 filings can
be found at https://www.amsat.org/audit-and-other-financial-reports/

+EA4GPZ's blog contains several updates on images captured by LO-94.
See https://destevez.net/ for details.

+This week's Flashback Friday Tweet from @AMSAT:
https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/1149667412779786240
In the late 1970s, the AMSAT-GOLEM-80 Microcomputer Project was
designed as a low-cost and expandable Z80 or 8080 based microcomputer
for amateur radio applications. Details can be found in the Sept 1979
issue of Byte Magazine.
https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1979-09/page/n183

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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive
additional benefits. Application forms are available from the
AMSAT office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at
one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the
student rate for a maximum of six post-secondary years in this
status.

Contact Martha at the AMSAT office for additional student
membership information.

73,

This week's ANS Editor,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
n8hm at amsat dot org

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sun Jul 14 00:47:50 2019
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 19:47:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 data pages.
Message-ID: <00a001d539dd$c3881a10$4a984e30$@verizon.net>


AO-92 Image gallery at  http://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4 as
mentioned in the AMS bulletin yields a completely blank page.

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
EM12ms




From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jul 14 00:51:53 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 20:51:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 data pages.
In-Reply-To: <00a001d539dd$c3881a10$4a984e30$@verizon.net>
References: <00a001d539dd$c3881a10$4a984e30$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOriMM=J7Q8Cudz9dsmSySNxizqawdigOuesf-9h=F3jow@mail.gmail.com>

The telemetry server is currently down for maintenance, which includes the
image gallery. Once maintenance is complete, the images should be available.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 20:48 Tom Schuessler, N5HYP via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
> AO-92 Image gallery at  http://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4 as
> mentioned in the AMS bulletin yields a completely blank page.
>
> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
> EM12ms
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sun Jul 14 00:56:39 2019
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 19:56:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dallas Frontiers of Flight Museum Moon Day a week away.
Message-ID: <00a201d539de$feebd910$fcc38b30$@verizon.net>

The 50th anniversary of Apollo 11's historic moon landing is upon us.
Saturday July 20th, the Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, TX Love Field
will be presenting it's annual "Moon Day" STEM event.  AMSAT will be
represented along side the Dallas Amateur Radio Club.  We will be showing
off the Fox cubesat engineering model, the AMSAT Cubesat Simulator, talking
orbits and demonstrating Amateur Radio Satellite communications.  This is a
general public event, with lots of young people in attendance.

If you live in North Texas, are a supporter of AMSAT and would like to spend
some time next Saturday, helping with our display table, or assisting Mac
Cody, AE5PH, in doing satellite contacts, please drop me an email and I will
give you more details on when and how to help.

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
EM12ms
N5hyp at arrl.net




From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Jul 14 18:29:36 2019
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 18:29:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone need some grids around Arizona?
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfrk5DhzTvFqL=cJ7RaWLhY8=16RyHH4Ukn6TQa5cL4wA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

It's mid-summer, time to make trips away from the desert to cooler places
and work satellites. I have already made a couple of trips north to work
from DM34 and DM35 in June. Are there other grids that people need around
northern Arizona? Options include...

DM34/DM44 grid boundary: along I-17, near Camp Verde AZ
DM35/DM45 grid boundary: north or south of I-40, west of Flagstaff AZ
DM54/DM55 grid boundary: along I-40, east of Holbrook AZ

I know there have been some travelers working satellites across
northern Arizona, but it always seems like those grids are new
for someone whenever they show up on the satellites. I have been
to those places many times in the past, and enjoy making return
trips to put them on the air.

I could go to other places that don't have the cooler weather, like the
DM23/DM24 boundary in western Arizona, or the DM52/DM53 boundary in
southeastern Arizona - places I have visited already, earlier this year.
Something like DM32 is not far from the Phoenix area, and can get there
in less than an hour's drive. After two trips to grid DM31 in February,
and the very hot temperatures down there in summertime, I will probably
not try to get back down there until sometime after summer is done.

Thanks in advance, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Sun Jul 14 18:46:46 2019
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:46:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone need some grids around Arizona?
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUfrk5DhzTvFqL=cJ7RaWLhY8=16RyHH4Ukn6TQa5cL4wA@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm sure that a lot of the new ops will need some or all of those grids on
sats. Is there a possibility to try 6m from those locations?

73

Fernando, NP4JV

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 11:30 AM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> It's mid-summer, time to make trips away from the desert to cooler places
> and work satellites. I have already made a couple of trips north to work
> from DM34 and DM35 in June. Are there other grids that people need around
> northern Arizona? Options include...
>
> DM34/DM44 grid boundary: along I-17, near Camp Verde AZ
> DM35/DM45 grid boundary: north or south of I-40, west of Flagstaff AZ
> DM54/DM55 grid boundary: along I-40, east of Holbrook AZ
>
> I know there have been some travelers working satellites across
> northern Arizona, but it always seems like those grids are new
> for someone whenever they show up on the satellites. I have been
> to those places many times in the past, and enjoy making return
> trips to put them on the air.
>
> I could go to other places that don't have the cooler weather, like the
> DM23/DM24 boundary in western Arizona, or the DM52/DM53 boundary in
> southeastern Arizona - places I have visited already, earlier this year.
> Something like DM32 is not far from the Phoenix area, and can get there
> in less than an hour's drive. After two trips to grid DM31 in February,
> and the very hot temperatures down there in summertime, I will probably
> not try to get back down there until sometime after summer is done.
>
> Thanks in advance, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
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From twjones85 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 14 19:23:59 2019
From: twjones85 at gmail.com (Tanner Jones)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:23:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone need some grids around Arizona?
In-Reply-To: <CAGHXx8jX4u2xvJp0FxPp4GO9jkNfiDUG59vR9-c2kR8xe47=vQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN6TEUfrk5DhzTvFqL=cJ7RaWLhY8=16RyHH4Ukn6TQa5cL4wA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHXx8jX4u2xvJp0FxPp4GO9jkNfiDUG59vR9-c2kR8xe47=vQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0D19136A-9DA2-4271-9857-C3121B3FFFF9@gmail.com>

Patrick,

Mark me down for DM54/DM55. As always, thanks for roving!

73,
Tanner

W9TWJ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Fernando Ramirez via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure that a lot of the new ops will need some or all of those grids on
> sats. Is there a possibility to try 6m from those locations?
> 
> 73
> 
> Fernando, NP4JV
> 
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 11:30 AM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> It's mid-summer, time to make trips away from the desert to cooler places
>> and work satellites. I have already made a couple of trips north to work
>> from DM34 and DM35 in June. Are there other grids that people need around
>> northern Arizona? Options include...
>> 
>> DM34/DM44 grid boundary: along I-17, near Camp Verde AZ
>> DM35/DM45 grid boundary: north or south of I-40, west of Flagstaff AZ
>> DM54/DM55 grid boundary: along I-40, east of Holbrook AZ
>> 
>> I know there have been some travelers working satellites across
>> northern Arizona, but it always seems like those grids are new
>> for someone whenever they show up on the satellites. I have been
>> to those places many times in the past, and enjoy making return
>> trips to put them on the air.
>> 
>> I could go to other places that don't have the cooler weather, like the
>> DM23/DM24 boundary in western Arizona, or the DM52/DM53 boundary in
>> southeastern Arizona - places I have visited already, earlier this year.
>> Something like DM32 is not far from the Phoenix area, and can get there
>> in less than an hour's drive. After two trips to grid DM31 in February,
>> and the very hot temperatures down there in summertime, I will probably
>> not try to get back down there until sometime after summer is done.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, and 73!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Jul 14 19:28:36 2019
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:28:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone need some grids around Arizona?
In-Reply-To: <0D19136A-9DA2-4271-9857-C3121B3FFFF9@gmail.com>
References: <CAN6TEUfrk5DhzTvFqL=cJ7RaWLhY8=16RyHH4Ukn6TQa5cL4wA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHXx8jX4u2xvJp0FxPp4GO9jkNfiDUG59vR9-c2kR8xe47=vQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0D19136A-9DA2-4271-9857-C3121B3FFFF9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUd73OENB2=LmDFK-1FQGeZNsx9XUDyHiJRrRhujK_cUiw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tanner!

Thanks for the reply. I will keep you in mind for any
trips out to DM54/DM55. I'm not looking to reduce this to
only one northern Arizona trip for the rest of the summer,
but it is good to know if there are any needs to fill in
some gaps on the maps.

Fernando mentioned 6m... I need to work on my portable setup,
and especially get digital modes going. I can receive the
digimodes with my K3S, and just need to make time to get the
transmit side going. No guarantees on 6m during any of these
trips, but I'll make sure to mention it if I have plans to
work 6m along with satellites.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK



On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 7:24 PM Tanner Jones <twjones85 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Mark me down for DM54/DM55. As always, thanks for roving!
>
> 73,
> Tanner
>
> W9TWJ
>
>
>

From kb2cwn at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 14 20:06:48 2019
From: kb2cwn at yahoo.com (Frank Staffa Jr.)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 20:06:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fo 29
References: <467981203.1740130.1563134808654.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <467981203.1740130.1563134808654@mail.yahoo.com>


Is FO 29 having an issue? Couldn't get into the last pass, heard nothing
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From jim at k6ccc.org  Sun Jul 14 20:39:39 2019
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:39:39 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fo 29
In-Reply-To: <467981203.1740130.1563134808654@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <467981203.1740130.1563134808654.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<467981203.1740130.1563134808654@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <df7b16a0-926d-e75d-5415-917595c71cea@k6ccc.org>

On 07/14/2019 13:06, Frank Staffa Jr. via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Is FO 29 having an issue? Couldn't get into the last pass, heard nothing
>

Yes, it has been reported here that it has been down for about a week...

-- 
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org
Ofc:  818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395


From ke4al at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 14 21:58:13 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Satellite Operations
References: <1197150179.1731275.1563141493955.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1197150179.1731275.1563141493955@mail.yahoo.com>

Lots of great satellite DX and grid chasing opportunities happening this Summer.? More information is available on the Upcoming Satellite Operations page of AMSAT's website:? https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/.
This page is updated often, sometimes with only on or two days notice, so check back often.
If you are planning a trip, feel free to email me to get it posted.
Happy Hunting!

73,
Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services
Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com

From decompudoc at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 01:57:13 2019
From: decompudoc at gmail.com (Brian Clark)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 18:57:13 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Setting up an Igate with Xastir for ISS
Message-ID: <CAJs_bv2m+Upk9vxOj_tw3bePAFh4m4ZbV0Xmi-+P7EiahASyww@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,

I am working to set up an Pi TNC using Xastir as an igate/digipeater for
the ISS.

Any guidance on the config would be helpful.

Wasn't sure if it was as simple as having the radio configured for the
correct frequency.

I am presently configured for the standard 144.390 frequency for APRS, and
that works fine.

73's de KF6FES

Brian

From tommypnq at centrum.cz  Mon Jul 15 12:41:39 2019
From: tommypnq at centrum.cz (=?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBVcmJhbmVj?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:41:39 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 SSTV camera status
Message-ID: <15e24dd2-46d6-1be9-f31f-2a79962d63e4@centrum.cz>

Hello all,
we would like to inform you, that during last Friday we were able to 
command the camera to take actual pictures in memory slots 8-15, so 
there are fresh pictures in the downlink, they were taken there over the 
Africa, I have allready decoded two of them from the weekend SATnogs 
audios, but there are more waiting to be received.
We would like to reboot the camera system to get additional 
functionality, but it would rewrite the pictures taken during the 
deployment and not all are on the ground yet. So any additional 
reception reports of pictures are welcomed.
Actual archive of pictures on the ground:
http://www.urel.feec.vutbr.cz/esl/psat2/sstv/index.php

         73!
              Tomas OK2PNQ and Ales OK2ALP

From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Mon Jul 15 12:44:48 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:44:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPc32 AO-92 L Band Doppler.SQF with Icom-9700
Message-ID: <000001d53b0b$16a26c40$43e744c0$@metrocast.net>

What should the Doppler.sqf values  be for AO-92 L-Band be?  I'm having
issue with AO-92 L-Band uplink tracking on my IC-9700.  I'm guessing it has
something to do with the frequency trend (Nor/Rev) setting.  I've tried it
set to both Nor and Rev but for some odd reason the Nor/Rev setting does not
make any difference and my uplink frequency keeps dropping during the pass
when it should increase?  I also noticed the IC-9700 display the NOR/REV
never changes according to the what the .sqf is set.  I'm not sure if this
is a CAT issue with the rig or me?  I'm using the current IC-9700 firmware
1.11.  Here is what my current .sqf is set:

 

   AO-92,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Voice L/V  

 

I got it to work once but manually selecting the REV on the 9700 display.
But then the very next pass it didn't work??  Any advice would be
appreciated.  Thanks. 

 

Cal/N3CAL


From kb2m at arrl.net  Mon Jul 15 14:00:46 2019
From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 10:00:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPc32 AO-92 L Band Doppler.SQF with Icom-9700
In-Reply-To: <000001d53b0b$16a26c40$43e744c0$@metrocast.net>
References: <000001d53b0b$16a26c40$43e744c0$@metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <00aa01d53b15$b3526090$19f721b0$@net>

Hi Cal, good to work you last night on L/V. I think it might be your center
freq choice.  Here's what most of us use.....

AO-92,145880,1267359,FM,FM,NOR,0,0

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Cal
Spreitzer via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 8:45 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPc32 AO-92 L Band Doppler.SQF with Icom-9700

What should the Doppler.sqf values  be for AO-92 L-Band be?  I'm having
issue with AO-92 L-Band uplink tracking on my IC-9700.  I'm guessing it has
something to do with the frequency trend (Nor/Rev) setting.  I've tried it
set to both Nor and Rev but for some odd reason the Nor/Rev setting does not
make any difference and my uplink frequency keeps dropping during the pass
when it should increase?  I also noticed the IC-9700 display the NOR/REV
never changes according to the what the .sqf is set.  I'm not sure if this
is a CAT issue with the rig or me?  I'm using the current IC-9700 firmware
1.11.  Here is what my current .sqf is set:

 

   AO-92,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Voice L/V  

 

I got it to work once but manually selecting the REV on the 9700 display.
But then the very next pass it didn't work??  Any advice would be
appreciated.  Thanks. 

 

Cal/N3CAL

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From pconver at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 16:02:55 2019
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:02:55 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPc32 AO-92 L Band Doppler.SQF with Icom-9700
In-Reply-To: <00aa01d53b15$b3526090$19f721b0$@net>
References: <000001d53b0b$16a26c40$43e744c0$@metrocast.net>
	<00aa01d53b15$b3526090$19f721b0$@net>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKmYKus_zrCXm7VFw5UKNzjD7rH9jjTXN_rhdcxD_5vG0g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Cal,

Try check with http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=ao-92&z=3 click on next option

It accounts on NOR setting, also can control doppler using
http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe

73, lu7abf, Pedro

On 7/15/19, jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> Hi Cal, good to work you last night on L/V. I think it might be your center
> freq choice.  Here's what most of us use.....
>
> AO-92,145880,1267359,FM,FM,NOR,0,0
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Cal
> Spreitzer via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 8:45 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPc32 AO-92 L Band Doppler.SQF with Icom-9700
>
> What should the Doppler.sqf values  be for AO-92 L-Band be?  I'm having
> issue with AO-92 L-Band uplink tracking on my IC-9700.  I'm guessing it has
> something to do with the frequency trend (Nor/Rev) setting.  I've tried it
> set to both Nor and Rev but for some odd reason the Nor/Rev setting does
> not
> make any difference and my uplink frequency keeps dropping during the pass
> when it should increase?  I also noticed the IC-9700 display the NOR/REV
> never changes according to the what the .sqf is set.  I'm not sure if this
> is a CAT issue with the rig or me?  I'm using the current IC-9700 firmware
> 1.11.  Here is what my current .sqf is set:
>
>
>
>    AO-92,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Voice L/V
>
>
>
> I got it to work once but manually selecting the REV on the 9700 display.
> But then the very next pass it didn't work??  Any advice would be
> appreciated.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Cal/N3CAL
>
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From eli.caul at sonic.com  Mon Jul 15 17:12:07 2019
From: eli.caul at sonic.com (Eli Caul)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:12:07 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 quiet
Message-ID: <MW2PR20MB2060F64A0E2DC99061B7818198CF0@MW2PR20MB2060.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Folks - 

Has there been any news on what might have happened to FO-29? 

It's a wonderful resource, and I'm hoping it can be brought back into service. 

Fingers crossed, 

- Eli Caul KK6ZHZ

Director of Customer Care
Sonic


From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Mon Jul 15 18:29:45 2019
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:29:45 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPc32 AO-92 L Band Doppler.SQF with Icom-9700
In-Reply-To: <000001d53b0b$16a26c40$43e744c0$@metrocast.net>
References: <000001d53b0b$16a26c40$43e744c0$@metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <9c783611-ee22-578c-33f3-5ce108db3ad0@t-online.de>

Carl,
The parameter REV / NOR in Doppler.SQF has only meaning for linear Sats: 
If the user tunes? the downlink frequency, the program changes the 
uplink frequency either in the opposite direction (REV)? pr in the same 
(NOR). The REV setting is correct for almost all linear satellites, only 
a few require NOR, e.g. AO-07, Mode A.

With FM satellites which operate in fixed channels, the setting is 
irrelevant. Also, the REV/NOR paramater does not affect the Doppler 
shift correction. Uplink and Downlink must alway be corrected in the 
opposite direction The program also does not change the REV / NOR 
setting of the radio. But it overwrites the frequencies set with the 
VFO. If you change e.g. at AO-73 both frequencies with the VFO up by 10 
KHz, the uplink gets wrong by 20 KHz. Therefore, the program changes the 
uplink down by 20 KHz.


Try Jeffs, KB2M, entry in Doppler.SQF. If you don't hear signals from 
other stations change the downlink using the 'Downlink' correction 
controls in menu 'CAT'- First click the control 'V' (which is 'V-' by 
default with FM sats) to V+. Then the controls will work also with FM 
sats.? If you hear other stations but not you own signal, correct the 
uplink using the 'Upl. Corr.' controls in menu 'CAT' (control V must be V+)

If you know? the correct entries in Doppler.SQf? change the data line 
manually and save the file.


73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 15.07.2019 um 14:44 schrieb Cal Spreitzer via AMSAT-BB:
> What should the Doppler.sqf values  be for AO-92 L-Band be?  I'm having
> issue with AO-92 L-Band uplink tracking on my IC-9700.  I'm guessing it has
> something to do with the frequency trend (Nor/Rev) setting.  I've tried it
> set to both Nor and Rev but for some odd reason the Nor/Rev setting does not
> make any difference and my uplink frequency keeps dropping during the pass
> when it should increase?  I also noticed the IC-9700 display the NOR/REV
> never changes according to the what the .sqf is set.  I'm not sure if this
> is a CAT issue with the rig or me?  I'm using the current IC-9700 firmware
> 1.11.  Here is what my current .sqf is set:
>
>   
>
>     AO-92,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Voice L/V
>
>   
>
> I got it to work once but manually selecting the REV on the 9700 display.
> But then the very next pass it didn't work??  Any advice would be
> appreciated.  Thanks.
>
>   
>
> Cal/N3CAL
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From ke6blr.robert at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 20:30:41 2019
From: ke6blr.robert at gmail.com (KE6BLR Robert)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:30:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
	<16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>
	<2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>

Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
(RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.

For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.

http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/

See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
soon.

As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the
user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
convenient.

73

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic ARISS
> or APRSAT paths.
>
> Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least there
> are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done it
> a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
>
> Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode, but
> the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode and
> enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't know if
> 5 kHz steps will cut it.
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>
>     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you are
> saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means
> the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> qualifier I have missed?
>
> PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
>
> Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
> User Station Software Configuration:
> First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler on
> the uplink.
>
> The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT (D72)
> as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite is
> the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get information
> out.
>
> Best regards,
> Fred N7FMH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
>
>  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband at
> different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want to
> be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From corlissbs at aol.com  Mon Jul 15 20:40:36 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Travelling Rig
References: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257@mail.yahoo.com>

I have put together a rig for when I travel and have no room for an Arrow 2 antenna, which consists of a Kenwood TM-D710GA radio and a dual band, Comet, 5/8 wave whip antenna. This allows for a quick setup to work a bird from new grid squares, without disrupting the family. On our recent trip, this worked great for AO-91 and AO-92. However, I can't a signal from SO-50 with this rig, even with a preamp. Does anybody else use this radio on SO-50 and would you have any suggestions? I know it is not an ideal situation, but it may be the "only game in town" for some trips.? Brad Smith, KC9UQR

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 20:51:22 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:51:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Travelling Rig
In-Reply-To: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1033632090.953680.1563223236257@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKORe+oA7oA=xmC50+abfNcRnjM+oMbq_0cjFMjS5ucHrQ@mail.gmail.com>

SO-50 has a lower power output than AO-91 and AO-92, and it has a 70cm
downlink, so the path loss is higher. You're gonna need a beam or
really high elevation passes to work SO-50. If you could get just a
70cm beam and use the whip to transmit on 2m, you might be able to
make it work. the 70cm elements might be small enough for travel too.

Personally I have traveled with my backpacker Arrow II on planes
without problems. Do you have the backpacker with split boom?

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:41 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> I have put together a rig for when I travel and have no room for an Arrow 2 antenna, which consists of a Kenwood TM-D710GA radio and a dual band, Comet, 5/8 wave whip antenna. This allows for a quick setup to work a bird from new grid squares, without disrupting the family. On our recent trip, this worked great for AO-91 and AO-92. However, I can't a signal from SO-50 with this rig, even with a preamp. Does anybody else use this radio on SO-50 and would you have any suggestions? I know it is not an ideal situation, but it may be the "only game in town" for some trips.  Brad Smith, KC9UQR
> _______________________________________________
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From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 15 21:05:37 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:05:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Travelling Rig
In-Reply-To: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1033632090.953680.1563223236257@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1222184995.2330389.1563224737647@mail.yahoo.com>

I place my Arrow II into a 3" diameter PVC pipe with end caps. I think it's 2 feet long. It stores well in the car trunk and the PVC is strong to protect from bends or punctures.
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Monday, July 15, 2019, 1:41:55 PM PDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I have put together a rig for when I travel and have no room for an Arrow 2 antenna, which consists of a Kenwood TM-D710GA radio and a dual band, Comet, 5/8 wave whip antenna. This allows for a quick setup to work a bird from new grid squares, without disrupting the family. On our recent trip, this worked great for AO-91 and AO-92. However, I can't a signal from SO-50 with this rig, even with a preamp. Does anybody else use this radio on SO-50 and would you have any suggestions? I know it is not an ideal situation, but it may be the "only game in town" for some trips.? Brad Smith, KC9UQR
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From ke4al at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 15 21:21:58 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:21:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Travelling Rig
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKORe+oA7oA=xmC50+abfNcRnjM+oMbq_0cjFMjS5ucHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1033632090.953680.1563223236257.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1033632090.953680.1563223236257@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALn0fKORe+oA7oA=xmC50+abfNcRnjM+oMbq_0cjFMjS5ucHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <706662902.2328109.1563225718177@mail.yahoo.com>

Wyatt, AC0RA, has been know to operate with just a mobile on U/v satellites.? On V/u satellites (FO-29 and SO-50), he uses a shorty arrow (4 UHF elements only) and a UHF preamplifier for downlink.?
I have tried operating with a mobile whip, and, yes, I could get into the bird, but not consistently.? Having some form of directional antenna is always better.
I have used both my shorty Arrow (2-elements on VHF and 4-elements on UHF) as well as my baby Arrow?(1-element on VHF and 3-elements on UHF) with my?Kenwood TM-D710GA.? Aiming/polarization matching is more critical than with a standard Arrow, but it still works a whole lot better than with just a mobile whip.? Note:? I bump my power up to mid-level.
73,
Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services
Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 

    On Monday, July 15, 2019, 03:52:16 PM CDT, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 SO-50 has a lower power output than AO-91 and AO-92, and it has a 70cm
downlink, so the path loss is higher. You're gonna need a beam or
really high elevation passes to work SO-50. If you could get just a
70cm beam and use the whip to transmit on 2m, you might be able to
make it work. the 70cm elements might be small enough for travel too.

Personally I have traveled with my backpacker Arrow II on planes
without problems. Do you have the backpacker with split boom?

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:41 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> I have put together a rig for when I travel and have no room for an Arrow 2 antenna, which consists of a Kenwood TM-D710GA radio and a dual band, Comet, 5/8 wave whip antenna. This allows for a quick setup to work a bird from new grid squares, without disrupting the family. On our recent trip, this worked great for AO-91 and AO-92. However, I can't a signal from SO-50 with this rig, even with a preamp. Does anybody else use this radio on SO-50 and would you have any suggestions? I know it is not an ideal situation, but it may be the "only game in town" for some trips.? Brad Smith, KC9UQR
> _______________________________________________
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Jul 14 21:25:39 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:25:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
	<16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>
	<2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNK0nTV20ZVHmYJKY0yDE3vRd82O20MvipnVHEFc6MRZyg@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
if it went via one of those.  Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
rule.  If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
previous field.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
>
> For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
> is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
>
> http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
>
> See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> soon.
>
> As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the
> user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> convenient.
>
> 73
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> ARISS
> > or APRSAT paths.
> >
> > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least there
> > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> it
> > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> >
> > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> but
> > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode and
> > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't know
> if
> > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you are
> > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means
> > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > qualifier I have missed?
> >
> > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> >
> > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
> > User Station Software Configuration:
> > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler on
> > the uplink.
> >
> > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT (D72)
> > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite
> is
> > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> information
> > out.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fred N7FMH
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
> > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> >
> >  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> at
> > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want to
> > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp  Mon Jul 15 21:48:04 2019
From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 06:48:04 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 quiet
Message-ID: <503892ED0BB84C7A9B73674F3C42FAB7@je9pel>

FO-29 State:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29siln.htm

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita



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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Jul 15 22:14:24 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:14:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 quiet
In-Reply-To: <503892ED0BB84C7A9B73674F3C42FAB7@je9pel>
References: <503892ED0BB84C7A9B73674F3C42FAB7@je9pel>
Message-ID: <1e13a3d4-aec7-fb19-b26e-3704fe420ad6@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-15 16:48, Mineo Wakita via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> FO-29 State:
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29siln.htm


Satnogs station 335 (ON4LS) heard it, or something that had a Doppler 
shift like a satellite, today:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/829247/

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 15 22:20:07 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 22:20:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNK0nTV20ZVHmYJKY0yDE3vRd82O20MvipnVHEFc6MRZyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
	<16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>
	<2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNK0nTV20ZVHmYJKY0yDE3vRd82O20MvipnVHEFc6MRZyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1722217298.2337919.1563229207309@mail.yahoo.com>

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for sharing!
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Monday, July 15, 2019, 2:27:34 PM PDT, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
if it went via one of those.? Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
rule.? If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
previous field.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
>
> For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
> is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
>
> http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
>
> See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> soon.
>
> As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the
> user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> convenient.
>
> 73
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >? Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> ARISS
> > or APRSAT paths.
> >
> > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least there
> > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> it
> > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> >
> > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> but
> > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode and
> > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't know
> if
> > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >? ? On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >? Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you are
> > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means
> > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > qualifier I have missed?
> >
> > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> >
> > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
> > User Station Software Configuration:
> > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler on
> > the uplink.
> >
> > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT (D72)
> > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite
> is
> > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> information
> > out.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fred N7FMH
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
> > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> >
> >? FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> at
> > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want to
> > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
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From fmhillhouse at comcast.net  Mon Jul 15 22:09:04 2019
From: fmhillhouse at comcast.net (Fred Hillhouse)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:09:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNK0nTV20ZVHmYJKY0yDE3vRd82O20MvipnVHEFc6MRZyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>	<16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>	<2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>	<CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNK0nTV20ZVHmYJKY0yDE3vRd82O20MvipnVHEFc6MRZyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <029201d53b59$eb1b7130$c1525390$@comcast.net>

That is good to know!

In the radio there are two settings; Network and Packet Path.

Does the "Network" stay "APRS"? Or should it be set to "ARISS"?
I assume the Packet Path becomes "ARISS" or "APRSAT". Correct?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:26 PM
To: KE6BLR Robert; amsat bb
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs

Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
if it went via one of those.  Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
rule.  If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
previous field.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
>
> For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
> is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
>
> http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
>
> See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> soon.
>
> As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As
the
> user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> convenient.
>
> 73
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> ARISS
> > or APRSAT paths.
> >
> > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least there
> > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> it
> > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> >
> > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> but
> > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode
and
> > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't know
> if
> > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you
are
> > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means
> > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > qualifier I have missed?
> >
> > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> >
> > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
> > User Station Software Configuration:
> > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler
on
> > the uplink.
> >
> > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT
(D72)
> > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite
> is
> > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> information
> > out.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fred N7FMH
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
> > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> >
> >  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> at
> > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want
to
> > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Jul 14 23:43:10 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:43:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
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yes, network stays APRS.  Path is ARISS

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:08 PM Fred Hillhouse via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> That is good to know!
>
> In the radio there are two settings; Network and Packet Path.
>
> Does the "Network" stay "APRS"? Or should it be set to "ARISS"?
> I assume the Packet Path becomes "ARISS" or "APRSAT". Correct?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
> Fred N7FMH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Bruninga via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:26 PM
> To: KE6BLR Robert; amsat bb
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
>
> Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
> RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
> if it went via one of those.  Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
> rule.  If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
> previous field.
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> > (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
> >
> > For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> > digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT
> there
> > is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
> >
> > http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
> >
> > See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> > soon.
> >
> > As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As
> the
> > user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> > convenient.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > >  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> > ARISS
> > > or APRSAT paths.
> > >
> > > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least
> there
> > > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> > it
> > > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> > >
> > > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> > but
> > > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode
> and
> > > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't
> know
> > if
> > > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> > >
> > > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> > >
> > >     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you
> are
> > > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That
> means
> > > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > > qualifier I have missed?
> > >
> > > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> > >
> > > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB
> PSK31
> > > User Station Software Configuration:
> > > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler
> on
> > > the uplink.
> > >
> > > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT
> (D72)
> > > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a
> satellite
> > is
> > > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> > information
> > > out.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Fred N7FMH
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
> > > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> > >
> > >  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> > at
> > > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want
> to
> > > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> > >
> > > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> > >
> > >
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From aj9n at aol.com  Tue Jul 16 03:28:07 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 03:28:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-16 03:00
	UTC
References: <1581505683.1026767.1563247687373.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-16 03:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

About Gagarin From Space.? Performing amateur radio communication session with the 8th International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova rep. Bashkortostan; Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact was successful Thu 2019-07-11 20:30 UTC (***)

======================================================================

About Gagarin From Space.? Performing amateur radio communication session with the 8th International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova rep. Bashkortostan; Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact is go for Tue 2019-07-16 19:35 UTC ======================================================================

24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia, telebridge via ON4ISS (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***) 

The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA

Contact is go for: Sat 2019-07-27 18:27:56 UTC 68 deg 

?

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-16 03:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-16 03:00 UTC. (***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 119 (***) 

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1323. (***)

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1266. (***)

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From pedro at dutrasousa.name  Tue Jul 16 12:02:01 2019
From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (pedro at dutrasousa.name)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:02:01 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to igate AISAT
Message-ID: <20190716120201.Horde.Ovv2mAnBq-FwVvj4Qn-cMAJ@webmail.dutrasousa.name>

Hi all,

A little help.
Seems that I'm unable to igate AISAT traffic, despite I can do it for  
all others (PSAT, PSAT2, PCSAT, BRICSAT2, ISS, BIRDBT, etc)
Currently using UI-View32. Any special setup in the igate.ini settings?

Thanks,
73 CU2ZG
Pedro


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From ai6do at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 16 15:18:39 2019
From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:18:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
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	<2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1079871681.1172269.1563290319059@mail.yahoo.com>

 I admit I am not very familiar with the packet format, but that feed seems to identify the satellite that digipeated (or originated) each packet. Yesterday, Christy KB6LTY and I exchanged messages on AISAT, which can be seen in that packet stream, even though I used only the path ARISS. And KE4AZZ had packets digipeated by PSAT2. What am I missing?

73, Ryan AI6DO



    On Monday, July 15, 2019, 1:31:37 PM PDT, KE6BLR Robert <ke6blr.robert at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/?

See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime soon.

As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more convenient.
73


  

From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc  Tue Jul 16 15:02:29 2019
From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:02:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Posting to AMSAT-BB with Unsubscribed Email Account
In-Reply-To: <932448063.177303.1562811377996@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <932448063.177303.1562811377996.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<932448063.177303.1562811377996@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxVaSCruTGA3WSY+OjV2uAqf3AuUnHSfmNvhz5082L627A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Robert for posting this.  I'm sure that we can save him or others
a lot of work by trying to post from the same address that we receive
from.  I wanted to remind folks of another case where this problem can
happen.

If you use gmail, then it is possible to append a "+" to you address
followed by anything.  The plus sign and everything after it is ignored but
you can use this added bit for filtering.   For example,
mymail+amsat at gmail.com will go to mymail at gmail.com.  However, if you reply
to the same address, the reply will come from mymail, not mymail+amsat.
I'm still searching for ways to actually send automatically from an alias
address but have not yet found it.

However, if you do want to be able to filter, you can use your "real" email
address and filter on [amsat-bb] in the subject line.

My own case was worse--I had the bb going through "call at amsat.org" and
that forwarded to a plus-sign alias!  I've fixed that, but I still have to
remember manually to change my "from" address.

73,

Burns WB1FJ

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:16 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
> There has been an increasing trend on AMSAT-BB, wheresubscribers are
> posting to the BB with an email other than they one they usedto subscribe
> to the list.  Usually these listmembers signed up with redirect email
> account (@amsat.org or @arrl.net), but attemptto post a message from
> their personal account. Others, who have multiple email accounts
> accidentally select the wrongone.  When either of these situationsoccur,
> their post is put in quarantine until a list moderator physically logs in
> andclears it out.
>
> Your quarantined message is not alone.  AMSAT-BB gets 300+ spam emails a
> day.  Each time a post is placed in quarantine, thelist moderators receives
> an email notification. You can do the math to figure out how many emails we
> get each and everyday.
>
> I bring this up to help you realize that clearing your emailis not a fast
> process.  We could take thetime to look up your name and/or call sign to
> make sure you are a subscriber,but, to be honest, this is not an easy
> process. Instead, you will more than likely receive an email stating
> ?Non-membersare not allowed to post messages to this list.? The easy fix is
> just to resend you post from your subscribed emailaccount.  If you changed
> email accounts,please visit the AMSAT-BB Info page:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb.  From here you can log
> into your account andchange your email address.
>
> Thank you for your understanding.
>
> 73,
> Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services
> _
>

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 16:06:47 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:06:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to igate AISAT
In-Reply-To: <20190716120201.Horde.Ovv2mAnBq-FwVvj4Qn-cMAJ@webmail.dutrasousa.name>
References: <20190716120201.Horde.Ovv2mAnBq-FwVvj4Qn-cMAJ@webmail.dutrasousa.name>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZyhWUa8ZgdYppqWtG0186_wdfKNAGGemweeP379VX9gA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pedro!

The packets transmitted by AISAT-1 are not formed correctly, so they will
not be processed normally & accepted on the APRS-IS network.

Thankfully, instead of just letting AISAT-1 orbit as mostly useless space
debris (heard only by each of us individually with no participation on the
greater APRS network), Robert (KE6BLR) has setup a proxy for iGates that
corrects the packets from AISAT-1 and forwards proper packets on to the
APRS-IS so that the traffic can be seen on sites like FINDU.com.

I suggest that you contact Robert at ke6blr.robert at gmail.com to see about
having your iGate proxy through his server when AISAT-1 is over your
location.

-Scott,  K4KDR

=========================

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:12 AM Pedro via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A little help.
> Seems that I'm unable to igate AISAT traffic, despite I can do it for
> all others (PSAT, PSAT2, PCSAT, BRICSAT2, ISS, BIRDBT, etc)
> Currently using UI-View32. Any special setup in the igate.ini settings?
>
> Thanks,
> 73 CU2ZG
> Pedro
>

From robert.machale at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 16 16:32:31 2019
From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:32:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
In-Reply-To: <1079871681.1172269.1563290319059@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <167801d53726$71d9ed10$558dc730$@comcast.net>
	<1491128219.3553007.1562775032015@mail.yahoo.com>
	<16bc01d53742$3ee59460$bcb0bd20$@comcast.net>
	<2044445416.3610238.1562783830190@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABaTVVYyM=706DxPPvB=Kt1HYq01U9HG2Kqo9wbyQqgB=BWm_w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1079871681.1172269.1563290319059@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <613931995.2720062.1563294751426@mail.yahoo.com>

You may be right.
Bob Bruninga mentioned a scenario where the ARISS path becomes PSAT, ARISS* because the satellite inserts the call sign.
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
 

    On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 8:20:01 AM PDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
  I admit I am not very familiar with the packet format, but that feed seems to identify the satellite that digipeated (or originated) each packet. Yesterday, Christy KB6LTY and I exchanged messages on AISAT, which can be seen in that packet stream, even though I used only the path ARISS. And KE4AZZ had packets digipeated by PSAT2. What am I missing?

73, Ryan AI6DO



? ? On Monday, July 15, 2019, 1:31:37 PM PDT, KE6BLR Robert <ke6blr.robert at gmail.com> wrote:? 
 
 Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/?

See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime soon.

As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more convenient.
73


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From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 16 17:19:36 2019
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:19:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] TAPR Trakbox Kit FS
References: <1311608813.2734017.1563297576114.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1311608813.2734017.1563297576114@mail.yahoo.com>

This is essentially NOS. I purchased it from another ham a couple of years back and did not open anything, except to read
the instructions.
$50 including shipping.
Robert KA2CZU

From leh.ch at charter.net  Tue Jul 16 18:27:04 2019
From: leh.ch at charter.net (leh.ch at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:27:04 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] July 17 FM Sat pass
Message-ID: <c23572ee6cd1c536dfd4097e9b7bebb9b74303b5@>

WB7VUF is going to be in CN83 on Wednesday the 17th to work
AO-92,AO-91 & SO-50.From 1700z to 2100z. 



From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jul 16 19:59:18 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:59:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Appalachian Golden Packet event needs NOVA operator
Message-ID: <910f2f064d7090269ceb170795830062@mail.gmail.com>

For the annual Appalachian Golden Packet event this Saturday, we still
need someone with a D700 or D710 to drive up to the Hawksbill Observation
point and provide a very critical digipeater in the 4 hour event.  (Maine
to Ga APRS packet exchange).

This site is East of Harrisonburg on I-81 and SW of Manassas, VA.  See:
http://aprs.org/hamtrails/hawksbill.html
Actually, we have a volunteer but he does not have a D700 or D710 radio to
be the digipeater (both 1200 and 9600 baud).

It's a 4 hour event form 1100 on Saturday until we make the link or no
later than 1500.
Bob, Wb4aPR

From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 16 20:36:37 2019
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 20:36:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] TAPR Trakbox Kit FS
In-Reply-To: <1311608813.2734017.1563297576114@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1311608813.2734017.1563297576114.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1311608813.2734017.1563297576114@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <815734125.2908717.1563309397504@mail.yahoo.com>

 Trakbox is SOLD
Thanks,Robert KA2CZU

    On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 1:21:09 PM EDT, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 This is essentially NOS. I purchased it from another ham a couple of years back and did not open anything, except to read
the instructions.
$50 including shipping.
Robert KA2CZU
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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 22:32:16 2019
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:32:16 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN46 from July 21-24
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>

I will be in DN46 from July 21-14 and will attempt contacts.

I am restarting in ham satellites (last contact was in 2003 or so from
BP64) with the same Arrow antenna and Icom Z1A.

Bear with me as I fiddle and fumble.

What do you all suggest as the best sats to operate?

Bob
W7OTJ
(was WL7CQX)

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Wed Jul 17 03:16:47 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 20:16:47 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 quiet
In-Reply-To: <1e13a3d4-aec7-fb19-b26e-3704fe420ad6@pobox.com>
References: <503892ED0BB84C7A9B73674F3C42FAB7@je9pel>
	<1e13a3d4-aec7-fb19-b26e-3704fe420ad6@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <52c07cba-4622-4573-9df7-65bc835baaf5@www.fastmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Satnogs station 335 (ON4LS) heard it, or something that had a Doppler 
> shift like a satellite, today:

Another very strong pass today:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/836915/

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From aj9n at aol.com  Wed Jul 17 03:26:20 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:26:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-17 04:00
	UTC
References: <1988635822.1414688.1563333980038.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1988635822.1414688.1563333980038@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-17 04:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

?

About Gagarin From Space.? Performing amateur radio communication session with the 8th International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova rep. Bashkortostan; Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka, Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact was successful Tue 2019-07-16 19:35 UTC (***)

======================================================================

24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia, telebridge via ON4ISS

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA

Contact is go for: Sat 2019-07-27 18:27:56 UTC 68 deg 

?

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-17 04:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-17 04:00 UTC. (***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 120 (***) 

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1324. (***)

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1267. (***)

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From kb2m at arrl.net  Wed Jul 17 12:59:04 2019
From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:59:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and SDR Console
Message-ID: <003901d53c9f$69fccee0$3df66ca0$@net>

I'm trying to replace my panadapter display program HDSDR that I use with my
Pat V boarded IC-9100, with SDR Console. I'm trying to get SDR Console
running with SatPC32's DDE interface, if possible.  Now I'm not tying to add
the SDRPlay as a receiver, as it's connected to the 9100 through the pat V
board, all I want to do is have it follow the 9100 RX. As I'm new to SDR
Console does anyone know of where I can find some documentation on how to do
this ? Thanks.

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jul 17 13:04:25 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:04:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 update from JARL
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrFU=yErB=bC68pC-cFHV0+fc-DAaG9ZAr0bOXWJk5tDQ@mail.gmail.com>

"Analog transmitters of Fuji No. 3 (FO-29) have been suspended since
July 9, 2019. Currently, we are doing situation grasp and information
gathering, but we will inform you as soon as the situation is
understood.

If you have telemetry data after July 8th (UTC), please send it to the
following address.

[Transmission destination of telemetry data] oper at jarl.org

Thank you for your cooperation in collecting information on "Fuji No.
3" of many users.

JARL Secretariat Member Section Fuji 3 Telemetry Section"

Source: https://www.hamlife.jp/2019/07/17/fo29-jas2-silent/

73,

Paul, N8HM

From propgrinder at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 15:16:50 2019
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:16:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN46 from July 21-24
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OqvbD_bAi-qaH7=xoVi1uhYLbEZ9KdVohTHa49-7zgMHQ@mail.gmail.com>

No suggestions on satellites?

Bob
W7OTJ

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Bob Hammond <propgrinder at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be in DN46 from July 21-14 and will attempt contacts.
>
> I am restarting in ham satellites (last contact was in 2003 or so from
> BP64) with the same Arrow antenna and Icom Z1A.
>
> Bear with me as I fiddle and fumble.
>
> What do you all suggest as the best sats to operate?
>
> Bob
> W7OTJ
> (was WL7CQX)
>

From ai6do at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 17 15:19:17 2019
From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:19:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN46 from July 21-24
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1706178831.1560345.1563376757165@mail.yahoo.com>

 Of the FM satellites, AO-91 and AO-92 are the easiest to work, due to their strong downlinks. AO-92 is usually switched to L/v mode starting on Saturday evening for 24 hours; when in this mode, the uplink is in L-band.?AO-85 is currently offline.?SO-50 is a little more challenging to work, as it has a weaker downlink. PO-101 is not continuously activated for amateur use; you can find the weekly PO-101 activation schedules on?Diwata2PH (@Diwata2PH) | Twitter. The AMSAT OSCAR Status page (AMSAT OSCAR Satellite Status) is a great crowdsourced resource to see the status of the active satellites.?

When you're ready to get into the linear transponder satellites, the CAS-4 and XW-2 birds are the easiest to work, again due to their strong downlinks.?

GL and 73, Ryan AI6DO

    On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 3:33:55 PM PDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I will be in DN46 from July 21-14 and will attempt contacts.

I am restarting in ham satellites (last contact was in 2003 or so from
BP64) with the same Arrow antenna and Icom Z1A.

Bear with me as I fiddle and fumble.

What do you all suggest as the best sats to operate?

Bob
W7OTJ
(was WL7CQX)
  

From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 17 16:46:23 2019
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:46:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN46 from July 21-24
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OqvbD_bAi-qaH7=xoVi1uhYLbEZ9KdVohTHa49-7zgMHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKoB7OqvbD_bAi-qaH7=xoVi1uhYLbEZ9KdVohTHa49-7zgMHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1926522247.1602007.1563381983553@mail.yahoo.com>

 For Icom Z1A, the choice would be AO-91 and AO-92, 
followed by SO-50 and AO-85 when possible. 

GL es 73!Umeshk6vug



    On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 8:17:54 AM PDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 No suggestions on satellites?

Bob
W7OTJ

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Bob Hammond <propgrinder at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be in DN46 from July 21-14 and will attempt contacts.
>
> I am restarting in ham satellites (last contact was in 2003 or so from
> BP64) with the same Arrow antenna and Icom Z1A.
>
> Bear with me as I fiddle and fumble.
>
> What do you all suggest as the best sats to operate?
>
> Bob
> W7OTJ
> (was WL7CQX)
>
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From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 17 18:47:45 2019
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 18:47:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
References: <990090965.1620096.1563389265249.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <990090965.1620096.1563389265249@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings,
Sometimes I have kids and would-be-hams watching me wide-eyed work the FM sats and I wished I could get some of them on the pass too.? 

So the question is, is it legal to allow them do it with me as the control operator handling the PTT ? 
on a not-so-busy pass, of course !


Thanks and 73, 
Umesh, k6vug 



From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 18:51:57 2019
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:51:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
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Yes! It?s totally legal. My 7 year old who is studying for her Tech license has made contacts on FM birds as well as linears such as AO-7. She either uses my call or her sister?s call and we act as control ops. Get those kiddos on the air. If you ever want to set up a sked with some YLs here, just let us know. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Jul 17, 2019, at 1:47 PM, k6vug--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> Sometimes I have kids and would-be-hams watching me wide-eyed work the FM sats and I wished I could get some of them on the pass too.  
> 
> So the question is, is it legal to allow them do it with me as the control operator handling the PTT ? 
> on a not-so-busy pass, of course !
> 
> 
> Thanks and 73, 
> Umesh, k6vug 
> 
> 
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From gzook at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 17 19:07:57 2019
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 19:07:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
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Perfectly legal so long as the other station is in an area administered by the FCC.? However, if the station is foreign then you need to check the list of countries with which the United States has 3rd part agreements.
The list of countries with 3rd party agreements can be found at the following URL.
Also, you have to identify the foreign station, by call sign. This per 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.115(d)

?97.115???Third party communications.

(d) At the end of an exchange of international third party communications, the station must also transmit in the station identification procedure the call sign of the station with which a third party message was exchanged.

Otherwise such operation is perfectly legal.? In fact, the 3rd party can activate the PTT so long as you are present and can stop the transmission if necessary.
Glen, K9STH?
Website: https://k9sth.net 

    On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 01:49:34 PM CDT, k6vug--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Greetings,
Sometimes I have kids and would-be-hams watching me wide-eyed work the FM sats and I wished I could get some of them on the pass too.? 

So the question is, is it legal to allow them do it with me as the control operator handling the PTT ? 
on a not-so-busy pass, of course !


Thanks and 73, 
Umesh, k6vug 


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From jim at k6ccc.org  Wed Jul 17 19:06:22 2019
From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:06:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
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For the most part, yes.  If it's a domestic contact, you are good to go.  If it's an international contact, there has to be a Third Party Operating Agreement with that country.  There is a list of countries on this page:
http://www.arrl.org/third-party-operating-agreements
Note that what countries are or are not on the list may surprise you in some cases.  For example:  Cuba = yes; Great Briton = no.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



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To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification

Greetings,
Sometimes I have kids and would-be-hams watching me wide-eyed work the FM sats and I wished I could get some of them on the pass too.? 

So the question is, is it legal to allow them do it with me as the control operator handling the PTT ? 
on a not-so-busy pass, of course !


Thanks and 73, 
Umesh, k6vug 


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From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 17 22:29:10 2019
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
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 Thank you all very much for getting back with clarifications, it helps a lot.? This will help share the thrill with the youngsters, as well as lower the bar for this wonderful experience, they deserve it.?
For the most part, the satellite contacts would be within US and Canada.? It'll mostly be hand-held or tripod operation out in the local park, so I was planning on initially handling the antenna and the PTT until they get used to the fast pace.? With sufficient traction, my dream goal is to hopefully take it to the schools in our district.? 
?
Thanks again. 
? 
73! 
Umesh, k6vug 
?
?
    On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 12:12:19 PM PDT, jim--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 For the most part, yes.? If it's a domestic contact, you are good to go.? If it's an international contact, there has to be a Third Party Operating Agreement with that country.? There is a list of countries on this page:
http://www.arrl.org/third-party-operating-agreements
Note that what countries are or are not on the list may surprise you in some cases.? For example:? Cuba = yes; Great Briton = no.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



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Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:47
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification

Greetings,
Sometimes I have kids and would-be-hams watching me wide-eyed work the FM sats and I wished I could get some of them on the pass too.? 

So the question is, is it legal to allow them do it with me as the control operator handling the PTT ? 
on a not-so-busy pass, of course !


Thanks and 73, 
Umesh, k6vug 


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From mikejamo at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 21:14:47 2019
From: mikejamo at gmail.com (Mike Jameson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:14:47 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
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United Kingdom is ok though :)

Regards,

Mike

--
Mike Jameson MIET BSc (Hons) M0MIK

On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, 20:12 jim--- via AMSAT-BB, <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> For the most part, yes.  If it's a domestic contact, you are good to go.
> If it's an international contact, there has to be a Third Party Operating
> Agreement with that country.  There is a list of countries on this page:
> http://www.arrl.org/third-party-operating-agreements
> Note that what countries are or are not on the list may surprise you in
> some cases.  For example:  Cuba = yes; Great Briton = no.
>
> Jim Walls
> K6CCC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "k6vug--- via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:47
> To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Control Operator Clarification
>
> Greetings,
> Sometimes I have kids and would-be-hams watching me wide-eyed work the FM
> sats and I wished I could get some of them on the pass too.
>
> So the question is, is it legal to allow them do it with me as the control
> operator handling the PTT ?
> on a not-so-busy pass, of course !
>
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Umesh, k6vug
>
>
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From n8deu at outlook.com  Thu Jul 18 00:50:54 2019
From: n8deu at outlook.com (Tim N8DEU)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:50:54 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend
Message-ID: <BN6PR02MB219526DBB4D6094D8B3D1586FEC80@BN6PR02MB2195.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Listen for amateur radio station W4A, a special event station, operating on Amateur Radio Satellites and HF bands this weekend commemorating after 50 years of the landing of the "Eagle" and six hours later man walked on the moon.

We will be operating inside the park from the US Space and Rocket Center grounds at Huntsville, Alabama. You never know who will be at the microphone at the satellite station as there will be several dignitaries onsite from the Apollo and Space Shuttle programs. This is an opportunity that does not happen often.

Additional information can be discovered at:
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/w4a



Tim Cunningham - N8DEU


From ke4al at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 18 01:20:22 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:20:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend
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How exciting.? Great job in putting this together Tim.
Wish I could make it up there to join in all the fun!
73,
Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services
Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 

    On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 07:51:38 PM CDT, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Listen for amateur radio station W4A, a special event station, operating on Amateur Radio Satellites and HF bands this weekend commemorating after 50 years of the landing of the "Eagle" and six hours later man walked on the moon.

We will be operating inside the park from the US Space and Rocket Center grounds at Huntsville, Alabama. You never know who will be at the microphone at the satellite station as there will be several dignitaries onsite from the Apollo and Space Shuttle programs. This is an opportunity that does not happen often.

Additional information can be discovered at:
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/w4a



Tim Cunningham - N8DEU

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From marklhammond at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 01:25:28 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:25:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 turned on 0030z July 18
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyrtNZX1iGw-2jqZZ=ypdVtJGcNJ9461bo8wePPaHg2_xA@mail.gmail.com>

I turned AO-85 back on. Use it while illuminated, while you can.  If the
satellite is in eclipse, please do not use or kerchunk it!

73,
Mark N8MH
-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From camsat at vip.163.com  Thu Jul 18 14:12:44 2019
From: camsat at vip.163.com (Alan Kung)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:12:44 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B)  TLE Update
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Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206

CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U          19206.21831019 -.00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00001
2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011

73
Alan, BA1DU


From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 15:04:28 2019
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Kees van Oosbree)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:04:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  Grid Activation in South Dakota
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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Kees van Oosbree <arrl.kvan at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Grid Activation in South Dakota
To: KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com>


********************************************************************************CHANGE
OF
PLANS****************************************************************************************************************

I will NOT be in SD for my vacation.  Decided to come home from SD after
visiting my sister in Medical School. I am going up the North Shore with my
parents in MN, July 18-21.  Still a lot of rare grids there as well.

Going to be working from 3 different grids:
EN47
EN57
EN58

These grids are tied together right where I'm going to be staying.

Hear for me on the FM satellites.

Thank you for all the contacts from South Dakota.

73 de KE0STO



On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds good, thanks!
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:57 AM Kees van Oosbree <arrl.kvan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I bet I would!  I am figuring it out right now.  Might need to get a new
>> account , but will definitely get it soon.  Thank you!
>>
>> 73 de KE0STO
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:32 PM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You would make a lot of people happy. One of the grids you will be in
>>> (EN13) is a grid that many have but not confirmed in LOTW due to the OP
>>> that lives there not uploading to LOTW... its a long story ;-)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:24 AM Kees van Oosbree <arrl.kvan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to do LOTW, but something happened with my password, so I
>>>> completely lost my LOTW account.  I might try it again, just to see if I
>>>> can pull my LOTW up again.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I'll try that out now!
>>>>
>>>> 73 de KE0STO
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any chance of LOTW? I See on QRZ you state you don't, but show on the
>>>>> LOTW site you have uploaded to LOTW in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:58 AM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <
>>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Awesome, thanks Robert!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am going to be a little busy on Monday, but will definitely do
>>>>>> Tuesday
>>>>>> passes.
>>>>>> Here are the passes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *AO-92:  Tuesday, July 16*
>>>>>> AOS-  16:42 UTC
>>>>>> TCA-  16:47 UTC               Max Elevation:  88 degrees
>>>>>> LOS-  16:53 UTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *AO-91:  Tuesday, July 16*
>>>>>> AOS-  18:07 UTC
>>>>>> TCA-  18:13 UTC               Max Elevation:  89 degrees
>>>>>> LOS-  18:18 UTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *SO-50:  Tuesday, July 16*
>>>>>> AOS-  18:15 UTC
>>>>>> TCA-  18:22 UTC               Max Elevation:  84 degrees
>>>>>> LOS-  18:29 UTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are only *Tuesday* passes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll send out the other passes for this week when I get more
>>>>>> information of
>>>>>> what we are doing in South Dakota.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you all for your support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 de KE0STO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:51 PM Robert Bankston <ke4al at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Kees,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks for the heads up.  I posted your trip to AMSAT's Upcoming
>>>>>> Satellite
>>>>>> > Operations webpage:
>>>>>> > https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > blasted it out on Twitter.  Feel free to update here on BB.  I'll
>>>>>> make sure
>>>>>> > word gets out.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Have fun and safe travels.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 73,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Robert Bankston, KE4AL
>>>>>> > AMSAT-NA VP of User Services
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Twitter:  @KE4ALabama
>>>>>> > Website:  KE4AL.wordpress.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Friday, July 12, 2019, 08:48:12 PM CDT, Kees van Oosbree via
>>>>>> AMSAT-BB <
>>>>>> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hello,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I will be activating EN12/EN13 grid line in Vermillion, South
>>>>>> Dakota under
>>>>>> > the callsign KE0STO.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The dates will be July 15-17, Monday-Wednesday of next week.  I
>>>>>> might go
>>>>>> > and activate other grids in SD when I have a chance on my road trip.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I will only be working the FM satellites.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thank you!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 73 de KE0STO
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> > expressed
>>>>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>> views of
>>>>>> > AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>> program!
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ
>>>>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
>>>>> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
>>>>> http://bit.do/ki7unj
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ
>>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
>>> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
>>> http://bit.do/ki7unj
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ
> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
> http://bit.do/ki7unj
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>
>

From propgrinder at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 15:06:04 2019
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:06:04 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN46 from July 21-24
In-Reply-To: <1926522247.1602007.1563381983553@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAKoB7OqnoRiSgTdGiTN+YFkokGH+6f6NRd1K07psS1xQvTkQWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKoB7OqvbD_bAi-qaH7=xoVi1uhYLbEZ9KdVohTHa49-7zgMHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1926522247.1602007.1563381983553@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7Oq=383P1qMxdV+C3UhqU2j2VFAE=3phnZVQUQS4_GKQLA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Umesh!

73,
Bob

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:46 AM k6vug at sbcglobal.net <k6vug at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> For Icom Z1A, the choice would be AO-91 and AO-92,
> followed by SO-50 and AO-85 when possible.
>
> GL es 73!
> Umesh
> k6vug
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 8:17:54 AM PDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
> No suggestions on satellites?
>
> Bob
> W7OTJ
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Bob Hammond <propgrinder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I will be in DN46 from July 21-14 and will attempt contacts.
> >
> > I am restarting in ham satellites (last contact was in 2003 or so from
> > BP64) with the same Arrow antenna and Icom Z1A.
> >
> > Bear with me as I fiddle and fumble.
> >
> > What do you all suggest as the best sats to operate?
> >
> > Bob
> > W7OTJ
> > (was WL7CQX)
> >
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From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc  Thu Jul 18 15:33:58 2019
From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:33:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler 2.3
Message-ID: <CABX7KxVfAWztWcpMFoWcg1P8RQtDK0soHQSoK9i9ex8CbxqmuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just to help out someone else using MacDoppler.

I believe but that for previous versions, you set the tone for a satellite
the the tone number in the radio (at least mine was set for 1).  MacDoppler
2.3 wants the tone in Hz.  Much more sensible, except that it does not fix
up your existing value.  It took me some searching to figure out why 1) I
was not turning on AO-85, and (2) when I realized I was not sending a tone,
why MacDoppler was not setting the tone on my TS-2000.

BTW, after manually turning on the tone, I got AO-85, and after the pass,
and fixing my entries in MacDoppler, it now sets the radio correctly.

73,

Burns WB1FJ

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 15:31:10 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:31:10 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tis the season! An election appeal.
Message-ID: <CACvjz2UmM_yK7=SMqaZiaTvQ9HMJEdZua5N_Ka-adcxU9dgEFg@mail.gmail.com>

If you're a member of AMSAT North America, please consider voting for me
for the upcoming election. Ballots are out! Voting closes September 15th.

Here's my candidate statement and qualifications:
https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/2019/05/candidate-statement-amsat-na-board-of.html

Many of you read it when it was posted in May, and asked excellent
questions!

I answered them here in a followup:
https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/2019/06/campaign-statement-21-june-2019-amsat.html

Here's a letter from Bruce Perens, co-founder of Open Research Institute,
Inc. about the campaign. https://perens.com/static/AMSAT/Election2019.html

Thank you so much for the support and consideration. The campaign has been
a very positive experience, with lots of contacts made and encouragement
received. Our community is well worth the effort!

Regardless of the results, I'll keep doing all the work that I have been
doing for advanced digital payloads and ground systems. All of the work I
do is open source and open access with international collaboration.
Bringing this successful management and technical practice to AMSAT is my
goal. It will make a substantial positive difference in all aspects of the
organization.

Thank you!

-Michelle W5NYV

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jul 18 17:28:40 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:28:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Board of Directors Election
Message-ID: <CABzOSOo0Zwvuu2fbYpTmzsio=GDtACZ-EPa2Hz0rB-Zc8PRcYA@mail.gmail.com>

With reports that ballots for the 2019 AMSAT Board of Directors
election have begun to arrive in member's mailboxes today, I'd like to
take this opportunity to ask that AMSAT members vote for me, my fellow
incumbent directors, Jerry Buxton, N0JY and Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA,
and Brennan Price, N4QX.

I have posted some more detailed information about the work we've
done, my views, and plans for the future at http://www.n8hm.net

If you have any questions, please email me at n8hm at amsat.org and I
will answer them as soon as possible.

With your support, we will continue our work to keep amateur radio in
space for another 50 years and beyond.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

From ns3l at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 18 18:04:33 2019
From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 18:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler 2.3
References: <851167347.3917349.1563473073160.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <851167347.3917349.1563473073160@mail.yahoo.com>

Burns, I posted this same response on FB.
I asked for this change some time ago and Don made the change in Version 2.30 Beta 4.Here's what I asked for initially..

Don,

This topic has come up by other users asking this question so I'm posing it to you.. Currently users have to refer to a tone list to select the the correct TX tone for editing satellites. In the case of SO-50 for example.. Why can't we manually enter the working or wake-up tone of 67.0 (1 in this case) or 74.4 (3 in this case) rather than cross check a list to find out what tone number 1 or 3 means?

Don's response.. "Version 2.30 Beta 4 requires the actual tone and ctcss values to be stored in mode.dat (e.g. 67.0) and the Modes editor - zero or blank still signifies no tone."

Steve Nordahl, NS3L


From burns at fisher.cc  Thu Jul 18 21:16:57 2019
From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 17:16:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler 2.3
In-Reply-To: <851167347.3917349.1563473073160@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <851167347.3917349.1563473073160.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<851167347.3917349.1563473073160@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxUYLytTgA3Ra1GSkQX5Y-G9Lwi9Dbk=bFKJm=j4RKRqwA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for doing this Steve.  I think it is a big improvement.  The only
issue to me is that MacDoppler neither complained at an old-style value nor
automatically fixed it.  (It could have told it was wrong with a TS-2000.
I don't know about other radios--perhaps the best it could do is the first
time 2.3 was run notice that there were any tones on the mode page and put
up a warning dialog box).

73,

Burns


On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:06 PM Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Burns, I posted this same response on FB.
> I asked for this change some time ago and Don made the change in Version
> 2.30 Beta 4.Here's what I asked for initially..
>
> Don,
>
> This topic has come up by other users asking this question so I'm posing
> it to you.. Currently users have to refer to a tone list to select the the
> correct TX tone for editing satellites. In the case of SO-50 for example..
> Why can't we manually enter the working or wake-up tone of 67.0 (1 in this
> case) or 74.4 (3 in this case) rather than cross check a list to find out
> what tone number 1 or 3 means?
>
> Don's response.. "Version 2.30 Beta 4 requires the actual tone and ctcss
> values to be stored in mode.dat (e.g. 67.0) and the Modes editor - zero or
> blank still signifies no tone."
>
> Steve Nordahl, NS3L
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Thu Jul 18 21:11:27 2019
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:11:27 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>

Hi,
few minutes ago I've called for half a pass over Europe when EO-88 was
in eclipse but no signal hrd, except mine... anybody use EO-88?

73, de Lapo IK5NAX

From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 21:34:26 2019
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:34:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>
References: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>
Message-ID: <86EE3C6F-51C4-4190-87C2-8B4C8DB87D7B@gmail.com>

It is used here in North America but just barely. It?s a great satellite but, like most linear transponders, it?s woefully underused. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> few minutes ago I've called for half a pass over Europe when EO-88 was
> in eclipse but no signal hrd, except mine... anybody use EO-88?
> 
> 73, de Lapo IK5NAX
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Thu Jul 18 22:08:02 2019
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:08:02 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <86EE3C6F-51C4-4190-87C2-8B4C8DB87D7B@gmail.com>
References: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>
	<86EE3C6F-51C4-4190-87C2-8B4C8DB87D7B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190718220802.GC6645@debian>

 16:34 Thu 18 Jul 19  , Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> It is used here in North America but just barely. It?s a great satellite but, like most linear transponders, it?s woefully underused.

Sad, but I agree

Lapo IK5NAX

From camsat at vip.163.com  Thu Jul 18 22:34:41 2019
From: camsat at vip.163.com (Alan Kung)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:34:41 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B)  TLE Update
Message-ID: <353bf0c1.db7c2.16c07392406.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>


Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206

CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U          19206.21831019 -.00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00001
2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011

73
Alan, BA1DU


From pconver at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 00:06:04 2019
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:06:04 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE Update
In-Reply-To: <353bf0c1.db7c2.16c07392406.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>
References: <353bf0c1.db7c2.16c07392406.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=be1qGFOE3bGq+3RwSU_RCda9b8vpvKM6_aMt8jSWYEA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Alan for new Keps, will try copy.

Pass/freq at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=cas7b

Good luck on launch,

73, lu7abf, Pedro

On 7/18/19, Alan Kung via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch vehicle
> Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be
> deployed at 05:14:22.0206
>
> CAS-7B(BP-1B)
> 1 99999U          19206.21831019 -.00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00001
> 2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011
>
> 73
> Alan, BA1DU
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Fri Jul 19 02:51:28 2019
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:51:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>
References: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnDAn71_fzXD+R85efmUtKciRbUYYK604kE4kyc3UfftUA@mail.gmail.com>

EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many
of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access
it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint.

That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that
cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than
spread out on a nice passband.

Yes, the linears require a bit more effort, technical skill, and possibly a
bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within
reach of the average ham.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 16:20 Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
> few minutes ago I've called for half a pass over Europe when EO-88 was
> in eclipse but no signal hrd, except mine... anybody use EO-88?
>
> 73, de Lapo IK5NAX
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
***Sent from Gmail on iPhone***
Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. K0JM
Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at
Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA
Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn.
------------------------------------------------
"Get the facts first. You can distort them later."
---Mark Twain

From royldean at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 11:08:45 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 07:08:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>

What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not
operating on the linears.    Having only just recently obtained the
equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my
equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor
easy to do.    Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
sure.

Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
 It's all they have.  Please keep that in mind.

--Roy
K3RLD




> EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many
> of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access
> it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint.
> That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that
> cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
> prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than
> spread out on a nice passband. Yes, the linears require a bit more effort,
> technical skill, and possibly a
> bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
> gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within
> reach of the average ham.

From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Fri Jul 19 12:06:52 2019
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 07:06:52 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnAerdyN9pQpNxLeq5mMt2nF1G29AeShdJub9a33Z0T=jA@mail.gmail.com>

If my remarks came across as ?shaming,? I apologize. They were intended as
encouragement. Yes, FM is cheap and easy, but the level of operator skill
necessary to get QSOs on a crowded channel is daunting. The skills
necessary to put together a linear station are more on the technical side.
That?s a challenge, but it can be fun to get there.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 06:09 Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not
> operating on the linears.    Having only just recently obtained the
> equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my
> equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor
> easy to do.    Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
> sure.
>
> Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
>  It's all they have.  Please keep that in mind.
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>
>
>
> > EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator.
> Many
> > of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot
> access
> > it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the
> footprint.
> > That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that
> > cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
> > prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather
> than
> > spread out on a nice passband. Yes, the linears require a bit more
> effort,
> > technical skill, and possibly a
> > bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
> > gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within
> > reach of the average ham.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
***Sent from Gmail on iPhone***
Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. K0JM
Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at
Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA
Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn.
------------------------------------------------
"Get the facts first. You can distort them later."
---Mark Twain

From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Fri Jul 19 12:07:57 2019
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:07:57 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnDAn71_fzXD+R85efmUtKciRbUYYK604kE4kyc3UfftUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20190718211127.GB6645@debian>
	<CAHKCqnDAn71_fzXD+R85efmUtKciRbUYYK604kE4kyc3UfftUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190719120757.GA3463@debian>

 21:51 Thu 18 Jul 19  , Mark D. Johns wrote:
> EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many
> of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access
> it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint.

Really EO88 has 97deg of inclination, maybe you confuse it with IO86?
However some birds are not for all locators, that's true.

> That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that
> cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
> prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than
> spread out on a nice passband.

I agree, absolutelly. This is the age of "quick&dirty" to be short.
More to this: how many qso can be done on a crowded FM sat and how many qso
could be done on an even small, say 20kHz, BW of a linear transponder?
Maybe ssb voice is not the future, even for ham. Maybe we'll have (soon?)
a digital voice satellite on microwave band to be used with phased array
antenna (!), maybe. But for now I think linear transponder allow the most
valued ham communications.

> Yes, the linears require a bit more effort, technical skill, and possibly a
> bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
> gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within
> reach of the average ham.

Ham is also challanging, right?

73, Lapo IK5NAX

From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Fri Jul 19 12:11:06 2019
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:11:06 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190719121106.GB3463@debian>

 07:08 Fri 19 Jul 19  , Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not
> operating on the linears.

It's not shame, at all!

> Having only just recently obtained the
> equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my
> equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor
> easy to do.    Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
> sure.

But they give less satisfation, imho. Please see my other reply on
this thread.

> Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.

Yes, I've tried FM birds but I'll seldom use them again

Have a good time

73, Lapo IK5NAX

From propgrinder at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 12:27:09 2019
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 05:27:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <20190719121106.GB3463@debian>
References: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190719121106.GB3463@debian>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OqoUOuu54gghDAsiEHiUUjiu0_86gmDaYT7dVAMnOO1pw@mail.gmail.com>

What equipment do I need to work the linear sats as a portable station?
I'm a recycled sat operator with FM gear for portable ops.

Bob
W7OTJ

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 5:13 AM Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>  07:08 Fri 19 Jul 19  , Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for
> not
> > operating on the linears.
>
> It's not shame, at all!
>
> > Having only just recently obtained the
> > equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my
> > equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap
> nor
> > easy to do.    Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
> > sure.
>
> But they give less satisfation, imho. Please see my other reply on
> this thread.
>
> > Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
>
> Yes, I've tried FM birds but I'll seldom use them again
>
> Have a good time
>
> 73, Lapo IK5NAX
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From royldean at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 12:38:02 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:38:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <CADGPg2t10E4rXJNy9GzPQV1oCnK+iK0xXTBGkzgwEKnGE3RUxA@mail.gmail.com>

>
> If my remarks came across as ?shaming,? I apologize. They were intended as
> encouragement. Yes, FM is cheap and easy, but the level of operator skill
> necessary to get QSOs on a crowded channel is daunting. The skills
> necessary to put together a linear station are more on the technical side.
> That?s a challenge, but it can be fun to get there.


And I apologize for misunderstanding.    I do agree that linears are way
more challenging than FM (and I remember how frustrated I was when I
couldn't make contacts with a couple of baofengs on SO-50!!!).

The true shame is that all mode full duplex transceivers aren't more
common!   But having worked in the consumer electronics sector before, I
understand that our tiny little market isn't likely to push the big
manufacturers in that direction anytime soon.   I can't blame them for not
wanting to lose money on R&D and production tooling.   :)

--Roy
K3RLD

From bthrelkeld at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 12:22:37 2019
From: bthrelkeld at gmail.com (Brian L. Threlkeld)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 07:22:37 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnAerdyN9pQpNxLeq5mMt2nF1G29AeShdJub9a33Z0T=jA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHKCqnAerdyN9pQpNxLeq5mMt2nF1G29AeShdJub9a33Z0T=jA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHbn9oCJ4-8+rfLh_ww9KNTeHmr_sXw-Oqp_o2w_E4ECzn5MLA@mail.gmail.com>

Im a new satellite OP and quickly progressed from the FM to linear... While
I found FM easy in the technical aspect like mentioned before it can vary
in difficulty depending on the number and skill of operators on the each
pass...Linear like mentioned is much more relaxed but very much more
technically challenging ... I started off trying full manual control and
have progressed to partial CAT control (using portable station consisting
of Ft-818 x 2) . Anyway one thing I have found is that satellite operators
are a very friendly and helpful segment of the hobby... for that I am
grateful ...

VRY 73 DE KQ4MM

Brian


On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 7:08 AM Mark D. Johns via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> If my remarks came across as ?shaming,? I apologize. They were intended as
> encouragement. Yes, FM is cheap and easy, but the level of operator skill
> necessary to get QSOs on a crowded channel is daunting. The skills
> necessary to put together a linear station are more on the technical side.
> That?s a challenge, but it can be fun to get there.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 06:09 Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for
> not
> > operating on the linears.    Having only just recently obtained the
> > equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my
> > equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap
> nor
> > easy to do.    Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
> > sure.
> >
> > Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
> >  It's all they have.  Please keep that in mind.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator.
> > Many
> > > of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot
> > access
> > > it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the
> > footprint.
> > > That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes
> that
> > > cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
> > > prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather
> > than
> > > spread out on a nice passband. Yes, the linears require a bit more
> > effort,
> > > technical skill, and possibly a
> > > bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
> > > gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well
> within
> > > reach of the average ham.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
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> Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn.
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From kc9vgg at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 05:13:16 2019
From: kc9vgg at gmail.com (John Stone)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:13:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W3ZM/9 FM ops in EN50, EN60, EM59,
	EM69 Fri 7/19 through Sun 7/21
Message-ID: <CALDG0kKOZKhOmikdtjd3RiZ0CMCD1m59bBetLTaBffQeXbMm1w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
  I'm planning to operate as W3ZM/9 this weekend from Friday through
Sunday, with updates posted on twitter:
  https://twitter.com/KC9VGG

Tentative plan outline:
On Friday daytime passes I will be on the road traveling, but I hope to
stop and try and operate at least one pass (AO-91/92 or SO-50) handheld
while I'm driving in EM59 or EM58.  Friday evening I'll be operating the
late night passes of AO-91 and AO-92 from EN50.

Saturday I'll have to work the first couple of mid-day passes from EN50,
then I'll be quickly heading over to EN60 asap from there.  If everyone
already has EN50, I could skip the mid-day SO-50 pass to hit the road to
EN60, EM59 or EM69 for the AO-92 and AO-91 passes.  For the late night
passes I'll have to operate in EN50.

On Sunday, assuming cooperative weather, I plan to try and operate the
daylight passes from one or more grid lines among EN50, EN60, EM59 and
EM69.  I'll depend on how my recon for good operating locations turns out.
If people favor a particular grid or grid line, that would be useful to
know before I scout operating locations on Saturday.

Variables:
Scattered thunderstorms on Sunday 7/21.
To operate AO-92 on L-band I will have to lug my IC-9700 out for use with
handheld antennas since that's all I've got for L-band presently.
I haven't worked PO-101 yet, but it's in my radios and I'll keep an eye out
for it and work it if the the transponder is active.

I will update on twitter as things progress.

73,
  John Stone, KC9VGG EN50

From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 15:43:18 2019
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:43:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT847 for sale
Message-ID: <CAHC1P2-otK+U2pWMtKD6nnN2J=T4vBjMnwEr6a1RfNMYAj73HA@mail.gmail.com>

 I have for sale a 2000 production year Yaesu FT847 HF/6m/2m/70cm satellite
radio.  This model does 100 watts on HF and 6 meters, and 50 watts on 2m
and 70cm.  It also does full duplex for satellite operation, making it a
great HF/VHF/UHF station radio, and it is still small enough to make mobile
or portable.  This is still one of the best satellite radios out there, and
allows you to do full duplex on Mode A as it has HF on it.

It has a built in CW keyer, DSP noise reduction and bandwidth tuning,
autonotch filter, transmit monitor, and speech processor.

Everything works fine on it and the physical condition is pretty good, with
a few scratches here and there on it.  The face looks good on it.  It is
missing the tilt up wire bale on the bottom, but it does have the carry
handle on it.

It comes with the power cord, hand mic, and manual.  Very nice operating
rig where you can do it all in one box.

I am asking $705 shipped in the US.  I can take paypal/check/MO/cash.
Pictures available on request.

73 John W5TD

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Fri Jul 19 15:51:01 2019
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:51:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1507840940.4381860.1563551461994@mail.yahoo.com>

 I have a used IC-820H that was picked up for a few hundredbucks. It's really not that big and I use it to rove by having itin the back of my SUV with the tailgate up and plugged intothe accessory jack back there. Arrow is on a tripod and theback of the SUV makes a nice place to rest my butt. The 820works all-mode and is Full-duplex. It has worked great for mewhile roving almost 120 Grids since 2012. You can see mysetup on my QRZ Page. There are a lot of these older rigsavailable on the typical used market sites for very reasonableprices. Check them out and broaden your horizons (HIHI).
GL/73,? ? ?Bob? K8BL

    On Friday, July 19, 2019, 07:09:10 AM EDT, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not
operating on the linears.? ? Having only just recently obtained the
equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my
equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor
easy to do.? ? Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
sure.

Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
 It's all they have.? Please keep that in mind.

--Roy
K3RLD




> EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many
> of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access
> it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint.
> That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that
> cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
> prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than
> spread out on a nice passband. Yes, the linears require a bit more effort,
> technical skill, and possibly a
> bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
> gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within
> reach of the average ham.
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 19 17:44:32 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:44:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Object Number is 44354 - not -357
Message-ID: <6c73f15cde1f41e3d46ba4b1242f2cd0@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone who has a reference to PSAT2 as object number 44357 needs to change
it to 44354.  It is definatley not 44357.

But it is still unreaolved between 44354, 355 and another one, though we
are pretty sure it is 44354.

So change your referecnes to 44354 thoiugh we are not going to formally
request that number until we see more separation from other objects.

Our temporary ground station  in a close t on a 3rd floor sucks.  SO if
anyone has better proof it is 44354, then we welcome it.

But it ain't 44357.

Bob, WB4aPR

From cchunter3 at mindspring.com  Fri Jul 19 18:40:42 2019
From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (cchunter3 at mindspring.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:40:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] RE PSAT2 Object Number is 44354 - not -357
Message-ID: <264111465.6706.1563561642425@wamui-charming.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

hi Bob, I have also been tracking object 44355. it is trailing 354 enough that I can hear packets when my local is outside of 44354 but just within footprint 355 on training edge of pass. this has been consistent. however they are not strong enough to decode. I can only assume they are PSAT2. Not sure if that is valid assumption.
I also have seen, using both these objects, that the SSTV 435 frequency is about 7-8mhz higher that published.
THANKS!
73 Christy KB6LTY DM14


---------
Anyone who has a reference to PSAT2 as object number 44357 needs to change
it to 44354.  It is definatley not 44357.

But it is still unreaolved between 44354, 355 and another one, though we
are pretty sure it is 44354.

So change your referecnes to 44354 thoiugh we are not going to formally
request that number until we see more separation from other objects.

Our temporary ground station  in a close t on a 3rd floor sucks.  SO if
anyone has better proof it is 44354, then we welcome it.

But it ain't 44357.

Bob, WB4aPR

From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Fri Jul 19 20:50:18 2019
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:50:18 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OqoUOuu54gghDAsiEHiUUjiu0_86gmDaYT7dVAMnOO1pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190719121106.GB3463@debian>
	<CAKoB7OqoUOuu54gghDAsiEHiUUjiu0_86gmDaYT7dVAMnOO1pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190719205018.GB5429@debian>

 05:27 Fri 19 Jul 19  , Bob Hammond wrote:
> What equipment do I need to work the linear sats as a portable station?
> I'm a recycled sat operator with FM gear for portable ops.

I've never operated sat with a portable station; I've a small station but
with fully stearable antenna for 2m and 70cm, I can't give you first hand
information but I see several hams using hand stearable doble yagi.

Lapo, IK5NAX

From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Fri Jul 19 20:53:32 2019
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:53:32 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2t10E4rXJNy9GzPQV1oCnK+iK0xXTBGkzgwEKnGE3RUxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2t10E4rXJNy9GzPQV1oCnK+iK0xXTBGkzgwEKnGE3RUxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190719205332.GC5429@debian>

 08:38 Fri 19 Jul 19  , Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> The true shame is that all mode full duplex transceivers aren't more
> common!

I use a couple of vintage RTX, an IC211E for 2m and an FT-780R for 70cm:
they work great!

Lapo, IK5NAX

From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 19 21:35:50 2019
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:35:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
In-Reply-To: <20190719205332.GC5429@debian>
References: <CADGPg2t10E4rXJNy9GzPQV1oCnK+iK0xXTBGkzgwEKnGE3RUxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190719205332.GC5429@debian>
Message-ID: <16369619.4547735.1563572150133@mail.yahoo.com>

 portable linear is on my "to do" list with a FT-817 and SDR/tablet combo, but most of my time on the sats has been very limited
lately, so just a few FM/ISS passes per week for now.? But I know portable linear is doable from those who have "gone before".
Rob KA2CZU
    On Friday, July 19, 2019, 4:54:40 PM EDT, Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
  08:38 Fri 19 Jul 19? , Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> The true shame is that all mode full duplex transceivers aren't more
> common!

I use a couple of vintage RTX, an IC211E for 2m and an FT-780R for 70cm:
they work great!

Lapo, IK5NAX
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From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Fri Jul 19 22:22:21 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:22:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR02MB219526DBB4D6094D8B3D1586FEC80@BN6PR02MB2195.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BN6PR02MB219526DBB4D6094D8B3D1586FEC80@BN6PR02MB2195.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <000601d53e80$6f263a90$4d72afb0$@metrocast.net>

W4A is up and running!  Just worked them on the XW2F pass here in FM18
(Maryland) @ 2210 on the 19th.  First one in their log!  Sounding good Tim! 


73 de Cal/N3CAL 

-----Original Message-----
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via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:51 PM
To: 'Amsat'
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend

Listen for amateur radio station W4A, a special event station, operating on
Amateur Radio Satellites and HF bands this weekend commemorating after 50
years of the landing of the "Eagle" and six hours later man walked on the
moon.

We will be operating inside the park from the US Space and Rocket Center
grounds at Huntsville, Alabama. You never know who will be at the microphone
at the satellite station as there will be several dignitaries onsite from
the Apollo and Space Shuttle programs. This is an opportunity that does not
happen often.

Additional information can be discovered at:
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/w4a



Tim Cunningham - N8DEU

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From royldean at gmail.com  Sat Jul 20 15:10:36 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 11:10:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend
Message-ID: <CADGPg2t8uncQ1AnrFxMr2kpG01tid8bG+GZz4Mi9euES-ux+vA@mail.gmail.com>

Also note that N1KSC is on the birds.   Just had a qso on SO-50!

I guess I should have expected them, but still a very pleasant surprise on
July 20th, 2019.

--Roy
K3RLD


> W4A is up and running! Just worked them on the XW2F pass here in FM18
> (Maryland) @ 2210 on the 19th. First one in their log! Sounding good Tim!
> 73 de Cal/N3CAL

From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Sat Jul 20 17:06:07 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:06:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2t8uncQ1AnrFxMr2kpG01tid8bG+GZz4Mi9euES-ux+vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2t8uncQ1AnrFxMr2kpG01tid8bG+GZz4Mi9euES-ux+vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01d53f1d$6c064790$4412d6b0$@metrocast.net>

We worked them (N1KSC) on both AO-91 and SO-50 today.  I especially liked
their "roger beep" at end of each transmission.  Sounds just like the Apollo
Missions did!  

Cal/N3CAL

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Roy Dean via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 11:11 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] W4A Special Event Station this weekend

Also note that N1KSC is on the birds.   Just had a qso on SO-50!

I guess I should have expected them, but still a very pleasant surprise on
July 20th, 2019.

--Roy
K3RLD


> W4A is up and running! Just worked them on the XW2F pass here in FM18
> (Maryland) @ 2210 on the 19th. First one in their log! Sounding good Tim!
> 73 de Cal/N3CAL
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From g0kla at arrl.net  Sat Jul 20 20:48:05 2019
From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 16:48:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] G0KLA Tracker Updated
Message-ID: <CAJOf0+tTTd-7xApS3Rbv9wXawRGaPR+pOO6PyYUAWoAjdEXD9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have posted a slightly updated version of the G0KLA Tracker program.  The
updates are minor but hopefully helpful to some.

Download available here:
http://www.g0kla.com/klatrack/index.php

Changes include:
* Support local keps files
* Process keps files from other web locations correctly
* Clearer behaviour when horizontal lines toggled
* Default the past period to 30mins vs 0 mins

Any comments welcome.
73
Chris

-- 
Chris E. Thompson
chrisethompson at gmail.com
g0kla at arrl.net

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sat Jul 20 23:58:02 2019
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 07:58:02 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Plan
Message-ID: <445cfe7b.2f51.16c11d22b61.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Here is the DSLWP-B UHF plan for the following days:


22 Jul 06:14 to 22 Jul 08:14,
22 Jul 22:40 to 23 Jul 00:40,
23 Jul 23:20 to 24 Jul 01:20,
25 Jul 00:30 to 25 Jul 02:30,
26 Jul 10:55 to 26 Jul 12:55,
27 Jul 02:30 to 27 Jul 04:30,
28 Jul 03:30 to 28 Jul 05:30,


All time in UTC. GMSK on both freq & JT4G on 435.4. JT4G repeater message on 436.4 TBD.


SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html   

Online JT4G telemetry forwarder: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html   
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html 



VY TNX & 73!


Wei BG2BHC



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com




 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 

From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun Jul 21 01:22:49 2019
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 21:22:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-202 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAM5+souhC7Jb-zmOY9-PzPrjCUm2TZcjgGuoce981ohOE-TdbQ@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-202

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* AMSAT is proud to announce the relaunch of its AMSAT Ambassador
  Program
* Watch for ISS, SSTV Activity
* Nihon University Announces FO-99 US Operation Plan
* FO-29 update from JARL
* 2019 Mid-Year Fundraising Letter
* 2019 37th AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* ARISS News
* Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-202.01
ANS-202 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 202.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
July 21, 20198
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-202.01


AMSAT is proud to announce the relaunch of its AMSAT Ambassador
Program

The AMSAT Ambassador Program is an opportunity for AMSAT members to
share what they've learned about amateur radio in space with others,
and, in the process, help inspire the next generation of AMSAT'ers.

AMSAT Ambassador Program Goals:
 - Educate other amateur radio operators and the general public on
   amateur radio in space related subjects.
 - Represent AMSAT by sharing enthusiasm for Amateur Radio in Space
   with others, whether at in-person events, practical demonstrations,
   online, or in written communications, and share AMSAT?s mission and
   vision.
 - Connect volunteers with potential members both in-person and
   online in a manner encouraging their affiliation by membership with
   AMSAT.
 - Offer personal mentoring and coaching to new enthusiasts either
   in-person or via online means such as email, chat, and social
   media.
 - Connect members and potential enthusiasts with proper resources
   at AMSAT when they seek more knowledge, volunteer to serve, or have
   concerns with the organization.

Become an AMSAT Ambassador and do your part towards making this
happen by informing people about the value of amateur radio in space
and encouraging their support and involvement.

Please visit the AMSAT Ambassador Program webpage for more
information: https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/


73,

Robert Bankston, KE4AL
Vice-President, User Services, Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation
(AMSAT, Director, AMSAT Ambassadors


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Watch for ISS, SSTV Activity

ARISS SSTV activity is planned for various times during the week of
July 29 through Aug 4. As more specific dates and times are
determined, they will be made available at the ARISS website (
www.ariss.org) and at the official ARISS facebook page at Amateur
Radio On The International Space Station (ARISS).

[ANS thanks Dave, AA4KN for the above information]


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      New 2019 AMSAT Apparel Now Available on the Web

 Didn't make it to Hamvention but you want the latest in AMSAT
 haberdashery? The new 2019 tee-shirts, polo shirts and hats are now
 available in the AMSAT online store.  Browse the styles and sizes
 online and put your order in today at

    https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-apparel/

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Nihon University Announces FO-99 US Operation Plan

Place     Operation Date AOS LOS    Max El
Washington DC    Transponder July 27 02:28:43 02:39:53  35.08
Topeka, KS     Transponder Aug 10 03:46:43 03:57:57  31.35
Denver, CO     SSTV Aug 24 03:30:20 03:41:50  50.01

All times UTC

Operation will be performed from 5 minutes before AOS to 5 minutes
after LOS.
Total operation time is about 20 min.
The operation may be cancelled if uplink is not received.

[ANS thanks Nihon University for the above information.]


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             2019 marks AMSAT?s 50th Anniversary
              of Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
           To help celebrate, we are sponsoring the
            AMSAT 50th Anniversary Awards Program.
                Full details are available at
    https://www.amsat.org/amsat-50th-anniversary-awards-program/
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FO-29 update from JARL

"Analog transmitters of Fuji No. 3 (FO-29) have been suspended since
July 9, 2019. Currently, we are doing situation grasp and information
gathering, but we will inform you as soon as the situation is
understood.

If you have telemetry data after July 8th (UTC), please send it to the
following address.

[Transmission destination of telemetry data] oper (at) jarl.org

Thank you for your cooperation in collecting information on "Fuji No.
3" of many users.

JARL Secretariat Member Section Fuji 3 Telemetry Section"

Source: https://www.hamlife.jp/2019/07/17/fo29-jas2-silent/

[ANS thanks hamlife.jp for the above information]


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2019 Mid-Year Fundraising Letter

The following funraising letter from AMSAT President Joe Spier,
K6WAO, was recently mailed to all AMSAT members.

Please consider a one-time or recurring donation today.

Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
10605 Concord St, #304
Kensington, MD 20895-2526 USA

July 10, 2019
AMSAT Member,

I am writing to provide an update to the membership on AMSAT's
activities and invite everyone to our 50th Anniversary AMSAT Space
Symposium and General Meeting, to be held October 18-20, 2019. For
more details, go to
https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/. I hope to see you there!

It takes considerable volunteer effort and real dollars to keep
Amateur Radio in Space?.  AMSAT needs some important assistance in
the areas of User Services and Engineering. If you would like to
volunteer, please contact me at k6wao at amsat.org. You may also assist
AMSAT by making a tax-deductible contribution. AMSAT has several
fundraising needs. The daily operation of AMSAT is accomplished by
donations to the General Fund. This fund is also used to fill other
department needs. The other main department needs are the fund for
GOLF (Greater Orbit, Larger Footprint) 3U CubeSats
design/construction and ARISS (Amateur Radio on the International
Space Station).

AMSAT has had success in the launch of AO-92 (Fox-1D) in January of
2018 and the launch of AO-95 (Fox-1Cliff) in December of 2018. AO-95
achieved orbit and the beacon functions properly, unfortunately the
satellite's receiver is not operational. AMSAT Engineering and
Operations are trying to determine the cause of the issue. AMSAT
partnered with Spaceflight Inc. by contracting and paying for these
launches. Fundraising for Fox series satellites have not yet recouped
this expenditure, so donations are still being accepted. AMSAT is
expecting the launch of RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E), our partnership with
Vanderbilt University, by no earlier than the end of summer. RadFxSat-
2 will launch on the ELaNa XX mission, on Virgin Orbit's LauncherOne,
and carry an AMSAT V/u linear transponder and radiation experiments
for Vanderbilt University. AMSAT is also partnering with several
universities to fly this linear transponder on their CubeSats. The
first of these will fly on HuskySat-1, from the Husky Satellite Lab
at the University of Washington, later this year.

AMSAT has been selected for two CubeSat Launch Initiative (CSLI)
opportunities for GOLF-TEE and GOLF-1. GOLF's 3U spaceframe is being
designed with versatility to add mission specific radios, power
supplies, and experiments. A series of GOLF CubeSats will provide
better coverage and a greater footprint will allow more coverage by
fewer satellites. GOLF also allows AMSAT to continue and expand
partnerships with universities, NASA and others. GOLF will also
provide for additional experimental payloads such as GPS, satellite
interlinking, and others.   Your donations help AMSAT keep GOLF-TEE
and GOLF-1 on schedule.

The first GOLF CubeSat, GOLF-TEE, will jump start the GOLF program
with a launch to LEO as early as 2020. GOLF-TEE will use Attitude
Determination and Control (ADAC) and an experimental 5 GHz /10 GHz
software defined radio transponder.

AMSAT will benefit by gaining knowledge as well as hardware for
future missions. GOLF-TEE also provides an opportunity to fly
projects that have been developed by AMSAT's Advanced Satellite
Communications and Exploration of New Technology (ASCENT) "skunk
works" program. GOLF-TEE will carry a Fox-1E design V/u linear
transponder and new RadFx (Radiation Effects) experiment like that in
AO-85 for Vanderbilt University, but testing FinFET technology.

GOLF-1 will aim for higher LEO orbit as the first official "Greater
Orbit, Larger Footprint" AMSAT CubeSat. Launch is targeted for 2020-
2021.

You may make a one time or recurring donation to AMSAT at
https://www.amsat.org/donate/.

As of this writing, the ARISS FundRazr has raised $33,250 of the
$150,000 for critical amateur radio infrastructure upgrades on ISS to
enable students to talk to astronauts in space via amateur radio.
ARISS is in critical need of this infrastructure update. Through your
donations ARISS seeks the following upgrades:

* Next Generation radio system will support easier radio mode
  transition, to enable new, exciting capabilities for hams, students
  and the general public including:

* New amateur radio communication and experimentation capabilities,
  including an enhanced voice repeater and updated digital packet
  radio (APRS) capabilities

* Slow Scan TV (picture up and downlinks) in both the US and Russian
  segments of ISS

* New multi-voltage power supply (MVPS) will support present and
  future radio capabilities and allow wireless experiments to be
  conducted

ARISS is building 10 Next Generation Radio Systems to support our
development, on-orbit operations, training and long-term maintenance.
This includes units on-orbit (2 units--1 unit each in US and Russian
segment), flight spares (2 units), training (3 units), testing (1
unit) and ground-based maintenance & troubleshooting (2 units). ARISS
has kicked off a FundRazr campaign for this initiative. The project
is scheduled for delivery by the end of this year.

AMSAT is also working with our ARISS partners to develop an amateur
radio package, including two-way communication capability, to be
carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Stay tuned for more details
on this exciting project.

You may make a one time or recurring donation to ARISS by clicking
the ARISS Donations button at https://www.amsat.org/donate or
directly to the FundRazr at https://fundrazr.com/arissnextgen.

Help Keep Amateur Radio in Space?

Thanks! Joe Spier, K6WAO
President, AMSAT

[ANS thanks Joe K6WAO for the above information]


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2019 37th AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting

Please join us for the 2019 AMSAT 50th Anniversary Symposium, to be
held in the Washington, DC Metro Area on October 18, 19, and 20,
2019.

The Symposium venue will be the Hilton Arlington, located in the
heart of the Ballston neighborhood of Arlington, VA. The Hilton
Arlington is located at 950 North Stafford Street, Arlington,
Virginia, 22203, USA TEL: +1-703-528-6000 and the reservation code is
AMSAT (Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation). Connected to the
Ballston Metro Station, the hotel offers easy and effortless access
to Washington DC's top tourist destinations like the National Mall,
Smithsonian Museums and historic monuments. The hotel is six miles
from Reagan National Airport and the National Mall. There are plenty
of restaurants nearby.

The Symposium will feature OSCAR Park - a display of satellites from
throughout the history of amateur radio in space - paper
presentations, and a banquet with speakers celebrating AMSAT's long
history, and other events. The AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting will
be held on October 16th and 17th at the same hotel. Two guided tours
are available. On Sunday, October 20th a bus tour to the Smithsonian
Air & Space Museum is available for $30 (max 35 people) and on
Monday, October 21st, AMSAT President Joe Spier will lead a day tour
to the National Mall via the Metro.

So please plan on attending the 50th Anniversary Symposium - you
will be glad you did and keep checking the AMSAT website for further
updates and information.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/

[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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Upcoming Satellite Operations

As of July 19, 2019

Remember to check out W3ZM On the Road for additional upcoming
activations!
Wyoming and Montana (DN62, DN63, DN64, DN65, DN54)  July 20-27, 2019
RJ, WY7AA, will be roving in DN62 and DN63 for the 16:00-20:00 UTC
FM passes, Sat. July 20th. On Sun. July 21st, he will work one pass
only from DN65, SO-50 at 16:58 UTC.  For the remainder of the week,
RJ will be camping in DN64, working holiday style FM and linears,
with one side trip during the week for a few FM passes from DN54.  RJ
will try to get word to Twitter when he plans to do so, but expects
to be without Twitter for the trip, and likely out of cell phone
range, as well. #unplugged

St Lucia, (FK94) July 21 ? August 3, 2019
Frank, K3TRM, will be operating as J6/K3TRM from Gros Islet, St.
Lucia (FK94mb) between July 21 ? August 3, 2019. Activity will be on
40-6M using SSB, CW, and Digital (RTTY & FT8) and satellite. More
info available on Frank?s QRZ page: https://www.qrz.com/db/J6/K3TRM
and Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/k3trm

CY9 St. Paul Island (FN97) ? July 31 to August 8, 2019
CY9C will be on St. Paul Island July 31st through August 8th.  This
is an all bands/mode dxpedition, with EME and Sats as well.  More
info available at http://cy9c.com/index.html.

Florida Keys (EL95) August 4-11, 2019
Philippe, EA4NF will be operating from EL95 (Key Largo and Brickell
Key) as KC3NSG, from August 4 to 11, 2019.  FM and Linears.  QSL via
LoTW.  Keep an eye on Philippe?s Twitter feed for further updates :
https://twitter.com/EA4NF_SAT

Washington Invasion (CN96/96 & DN06/07/17/17) ? August 9-10, 2019
Casey, KI7UNJ, will be heading North to invade the State of
Washington, August 9th and 10th. Keep an eye on Casey?s Twitter feed
for specific pass announcements: https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ

St Pierre et Miquelon (GN16) ? August 10-18, 2019
A DXpedition is planned to St Pierre et Miquelon, August 10th
through the 18th. The team will operate as T05M will from Ile aux
Marins on 6-160m, but there is a possibility of some FM Satellites.
Keep an eye on their website for updates: http://fp2019.net/

Santa Rosa Island, CA (CM93) ? August 12-14, 2019
Ron, AD0DX, is heading back to Santa Rosa Island, August 12th -14th.
When not distracted by the feathered-birds, Ron will be on FM and
linear satellites as W6R.  Keep an eye on Ron?s Twitter feed for
updates at the dates get closer.  https://twitter.com/ad0dx

6Y Jamaica (FK18) AUGUST 12-19, 2019
Philippe, EA4NF will be operating from JAMAICA (IOTA NA-097 ? Grid
FK18) in Satellite with the special call 6Y4NF from August 12 to 19,
2019.  QRV Satellite in FM and SSB.  QSL via LoTW.  Keep an eye on
Philippe?s Twitter feed for further updates :
https://twitter.com/EA4NF_SAT.

Please submit any additions or corrections to ke4al (at) amsat.org

[ANS thanks Robert KE4AL for the above information]


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    AMSAT and ARISS are currently supporting a FundRazr campaign
    to raise $150,000 for critical radio infrastructure upgrades
    on ISS. The upgrades are necessary to enable students to
    continue to talk to astronauts in space via Amateur Radio.
     We have reached a great milestone with $33,250 raised
    or about 17% towards our goal. This would not have been
         possible without your outstanding generosity!!

          For more information and to DONATE TODAY visit:

     https://fundrazr.com/arissnextgen?ref=ab_e7Htwa_ab_47IcJ9

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ARISS News

+ 2019-07-16 19:35 UTC between Cosmonaut Aleksey Ovchinin using ISS
  callsign RS?ISS and About Gagarin From Space.
  Performing amateur radio communication session with the 8th
  International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova rep. Bashkortostan
  Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka,
  Davlekanovsky, Russia Contact was direct via  RZ9WWB.
  ARISS Mentor was Sergey RV3DR

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule

24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West
Virginia, telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA
Contact is go for: Sat 2019-07-27 18:27:56 UTC

[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
 information]


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   AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
   radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
     be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Support AMSAT's
         projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

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Shorts From All Over

+ CAS-7B Launch July 25, 2019

Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch
vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B
satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206

CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U          19206.21831019 -.00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00001
2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011

[ANS thanks Alan, BA1DU for the above information]

+ Tweet from AMSAT-UK

AMSAT-UK (@AmsatUK) tweeted at 2:28 PM on Fri, Jul 19, 2019:
#Peru: Holders of the 100 watt Novice (Class C) #AmateurRadio
license have been granted access to 144-146 MHz (previously just 146-
148) and the entire 70cm band.
They are now permitted to use the Satellites
https://t.co/lHMwcq0two#hamradio #hamr
(https://twitter.com/AmsatUK/status/1152314187344990210?s=03)

[ANS thanks @Amsat-UK for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
aa8em at amsat dot org

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sun Jul 21 22:40:18 2019
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 17:40:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Moon Day? special events.
Message-ID: <017e01d54015$46221fb0$d2665f10$@verizon.net>

I hope everyone who worked at special events commemorating Apollo 11's
historic mission had a great time this weekend.  Those involved with our
event at the Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas had a great time
introducing hundreds of people to some basic aspects of satellites, and
specifically Amateur Radio in space.

Thanks to all who helped, Mac Cody, AE5PH (FM satellite passes), Jay Cox,
KG5BZW, Virginia Smith, NV5F, Tim Staley, K5TGS, Doug Quagliana, KA2UPW and
Dave Buchanan, W5TRX (with wife Leah) for giving their day to represent
AMSAT. Thanks as well to the Dallas Amateur Radio Club (Our display
neighbors) for their assistance.

Also thanks to Alan Johnston, KU2Y for his contribution in loaning the Fox
Engineering model and Cubesat Simulator for this event.  Both items are
great eye catchers at venues like this.

73
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
EM12ms



From graham at shirville.com  Mon Jul 22 10:08:16 2019
From: graham at shirville.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:08:16 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Moon Day? special events.
In-Reply-To: <017e01d54015$46221fb0$d2665f10$@verizon.net>
References: <017e01d54015$46221fb0$d2665f10$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <8a989e61-00f6-8813-8afa-8c6c7484d47b@shirville.com>

Hi Tom,

I am glad that you all had a great time in Dallas!

Over here in the UK, at the Goonhilly Earth Station on the Lizard 
peninsular in Cornwall, we "borrowed" their 32 metre dish (GHY6) to do 
SSB moonbounce (aka Oscar-0)? on 5.7GHz.

Here is a short extract of Noel G8GTZ, using his Special Event Callsign, 
GB6GHY, appearing in front of about 3000 attendees at the music and 
science festival which was taking place on site.

Moonrise did not occur until 2330 local time so the audience was quite 
loud themselves https://twitter.com/i/status/1152731492382138372

GHY6 was commissioned in the early 1980s and, now that we have "finished 
with it", they are implementing an upgrade and update to make it 
suitable for use with the DSN and the upcoming Lunar Gateway and Artemis 
missions. Exciting times ahead.

73

Graham

G3VZV



On 21/07/2019 23:40, Tom Schuessler, N5HYP via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I hope everyone who worked at special events commemorating Apollo 11's
> historic mission had a great time this weekend.  Those involved with our
> event at the Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas had a great time
> introducing hundreds of people to some basic aspects of satellites, and
> specifically Amateur Radio in space.
>
> Thanks to all who helped, Mac Cody, AE5PH (FM satellite passes), Jay Cox,
> KG5BZW, Virginia Smith, NV5F, Tim Staley, K5TGS, Doug Quagliana, KA2UPW and
> Dave Buchanan, W5TRX (with wife Leah) for giving their day to represent
> AMSAT. Thanks as well to the Dallas Amateur Radio Club (Our display
> neighbors) for their assistance.
>
> Also thanks to Alan Johnston, KU2Y for his contribution in loaning the Fox
> Engineering model and Cubesat Simulator for this event.  Both items are
> great eye catchers at venues like this.
>
> 73
> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
> EM12ms
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net  Mon Jul 22 13:21:52 2019
From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:21:52 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Direwolf for CAS-4 telemetry decoding
Message-ID: <586d1019-476c-06a0-2041-ae5782417c34@msa.hinet.net>

A hint for people who want to use Direwolf instead of UZ7HO's soundmodem.

I finally worked out why I wasn't having success with decoding telemetry 
from CAS-4AB: for decoding 4800 baud signals you need the K9NG/G3RUH 
baseband and that needs a special setting in the Direwolf config file, 
namely in the modem entry. Normally the modem entry looks like this....

MODEM 4800

Change it to the following and it works....

MODEM 4800 0:0

This info can be found in section 9.2.2 "Radio channel -Modem 
configuration , general form" of the Direwolf user guide.

You can find the complete config file and screenshots of the decoding 
process on my website: BX2ABT.com


Next step is to decode telemetry from the XiWang sats. They are using 
9600 baud and from what I understand the GOMX-1 baseband. Not sure what 
the difference is with G3RUH, so any hint on reading material to start 
grokking this stuff is apperiated.

73 de Hans

BX2ABT



From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jul 22 19:50:00 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:50:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 in DTMF Grid uplink mode. Digi is off.
Message-ID: <6e2ce9acb583be52a13fa50d0fffb712@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 is now in DTMF Grid uplink mode.  See user guide
http://aprs.org/psat2.html

The DIGI is off,
The APRS-to-Voice is off
PSK31 and SSTV remain on.
Uplink for DTMF is now 145.9800

Please, unless you can track Doppler on the uplink to within 500 Hz, DO
NOT even try DTMF except the middle 60 seconds of any given pass.   Lower
pass the better.

Otherwise the Doppler will kill the 4 second transmission and you will
only be QRMing everyone else with no chance of success for yourself.

This is going to be hard due to the narrowband receiver.  Again, TX only
with radio set to BNARROBAND FM.  Otherwise, It will NEVER work.

Bob, WB4aPR

From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jul 23 13:36:02 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:36:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] First DTMF grid!
In-Reply-To: <CAAy53m6rqnMXjFt2zkkg=zh8=aRr5gt4+xS75VcKQACJ887oCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKhROgY-thDdB+uiBy+-0_xs9d-GYGYpU0BOGBEidSXzg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAy53m6rqnMXjFt2zkkg=zh8=aRr5gt4+xS75VcKQACJ887oCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b0053a24d34a0a1195a7e7c71923ce0@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a video PY5LF recorded of his first successful DTMF Grid uplink:

You do not hear his DTMF uplink but you hear the voice response and the
APRS packet that results:



https://www.facebook.com/py5lf/videos/2634132619939772/?t=0



That packet is a 3rd party APRS format for that grid report.  It did not
get picked up by either the PSAT2 telemetry or USER pages beacause of the 3
rd party format probably.  Ill see if we can fix that.

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Tue Jul 23 22:31:57 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:31:57 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Technical Handbook for Satellite Monitoring -
 available for cost of shipping!
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2U93sUXs5tvaTf=b1M9=vMo44VT-YbF=t41i9Sf1V3o=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACvjz2U93sUXs5tvaTf=b1M9=vMo44VT-YbF=t41i9Sf1V3o=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACvjz2Xime80zHZwjK=U9=ePCg4p9kzpWHgCx6Nk6i3NPCn3Hw@mail.gmail.com>

I've applied for a grant from the ARRL foundation to fund purchase of this
book for ham radio clubs at schools.

Please get in touch to recommend a ham club!

I have:
David J. Schmocker <kj9idave at charter.net>
Nick Pugh (The satellite team at the University of Louisiana)

and

saguaroastro <saguaroastro at cox.net> (school club or independent?)

Looking for more in case the grant is awarded. d

-Michelle W5NYV




On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:52 AM Michelle Thompson <
mountain.michelle at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an extra copy of the 2017 edition of Roland Proesch's Technical
> Handbook for Satellite Monitoring and I would like to give it away! Just
> setting shipping and it can be yours.
>
> Here's a link to the 2017 version's table of contents:
>
> http://frequencymanager.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Technical-Handbook-for-Satellite-Monitoring-2017.pdf
>
> Available from now through Monday.
> If multiple people interested, will pick someone at random!
>
> I enjoy and use this book and want to find it a new home.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>

From n4hf.philip at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 01:47:16 2019
From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:47:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT info table at Asheville NC Hamfest,
	Saturday July 27
Message-ID: <CAGdEbNYiR7ythZJKVuyrpz4j1bs3DW_1WRsONTGJGBncpQ-fhg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm manning an AMSAT info table this Saturday, July 27, at the Asheville
(Waynesville) NC Hamfest (EM85), distributing some general info/documents
and selling some AMSAT store merchandise.

Demos will be attempted on some FM birds, most likely by KK4FFE or possibly
N4HF. The best passes are (AOS in UTC):

AO-85  11:39 (hamfest opens at 12;00)
AO-85  13:18
SO-50  14:32
AO-92  15:59
AO-91  17:12 (not likely; hamfest will probably have wound down by this
time)

Philip N4HF
AMSAT Ambassador

From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 22:27:50 2019
From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan al-Basri)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:27:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] No TLM on AO-85 pass 2226z 24JUL2019
Message-ID: <CAM4UQf2WSMLo2ior05zyHDoYTAgG=rwUYmASf31G9saT5xz-1A@mail.gmail.com>

Was TLM off for that pass? No DUV indication at all, I can usuaLly hear the
sub-audible and nothing showing on FoxTelem softare.
73 N0AN
Hasan

From marklhammond at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 00:17:38 2019
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:17:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] No TLM on AO-85 pass 2226z 24JUL2019
In-Reply-To: <CAM4UQf2WSMLo2ior05zyHDoYTAgG=rwUYmASf31G9saT5xz-1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM4UQf2WSMLo2ior05zyHDoYTAgG=rwUYmASf31G9saT5xz-1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyrEviuPRWXnh9g9y_ndTpr_VuwV77zSHAyYkexi7Liueg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Hasan,

The bird is a bit unpredictable these days, due to lack of voltage from
battery condition. It very well may from time to time be operational in
what we call COR, or carrier operated repeater.  In this mode there is no
data under voice (DUV).  So just enjoy the voice ops! It?ll fix itself or
we?ll give it a nudge (command it) eventually.

Mark N8MH



On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:28 PM Hasan al-Basri via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Was TLM off for that pass? No DUV indication at all, I can usuaLly hear the
> sub-audible and nothing showing on FoxTelem softare.
> 73 N0AN
> Hasan
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From camsat at vip.163.com  Thu Jul 25 00:21:39 2019
From: camsat at vip.163.com (Alan Kung)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:21:39 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B)  Will be launched today
Message-ID: <1c7a6ebf.108155.16c26813d2b.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>

Hello,

CAS-7B will be launched today, TLE is as follows, CAMSAT is looking forward to receive CW beacon record.

Thank you for your help!

73
Alan, BA1DU

-------- Forwarding messages --------
From: "Alan Kung via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Date: 2019-07-19 06:34:41
To:  amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B)  TLE Update

Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206

CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U          19206.21831019 -.00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00001
2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011

73
Alan, BA1DU

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 25 04:50:56 2019
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 00:50:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with 24th World Scout Jamboree,
	Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia
Message-ID: <113CD816D44F44EA86F95035E0B9B96E@DHJ>

  

 

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at 24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia

on 27 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:27 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between OR4ISS and ON4ISS. The contact should be audible over Belgium and portions of Europe. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

The 24th World Scout Jamboree is hosted by the North American team of Canada, Mexico, and USA. It is an event of the World Organization of the Scout Movement. 40,000 Scouts are expected to be in attendance from 160 countries. Scouts are ages 14 to 17, male and female, all races and nationalities. Official languages are English, French, and Spanish, but many other languages will be spoken at the event, reflecting the worldwide diversity of Scouting. 

 

Amateur radio has been in operation at World Scout Jamborees since GB3SP in 1957 in the United Kingdom. From this effort grew Jamboree on the Air, now the largest annual Scouting event in the world with nearly 2 million Scouts participating. Subsequent World Jamborees provided amateur radio operations and most of the recent events also hosted an ARISS Contact. This track record demonstrates Scouting's ever present focus on science, technology, engineering, and math as well as the magic of making two-way contacts at a distance - even in space with an astronaut on the International Space Station. 

 

The site of the World Scout Jamboree is the Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve in West Virginia, USA. This is also where the USA National Jamborees are held. Most recently Astronaut Luca Parmitano conducted an ARISS contact during the 2013 Jamboree. We send a special note to Astronaut Drew Morgan, an assistant Scoutmaster, for his encouragement during our proposal.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1. What do you think is the most important thing you believe young 

   people should do in Scouting to help them in their future careers 

   such as being an astronaut or working in the sciences?

2. Here at the World Jamboree we like to trade items with scouts from 

   around the world as a way to bond and remember our new friendships. 

   Do you ever trade patches or parts of your uniforms with your 

   international crew members?

3. What is the single prettiest place or region on Earth to see from 

   space?

4. Do you bring something special with you so when you get back, so you 

   can say, "This has been in space!"?

5. What food do you miss the most that you can't have in space?

6. What if the ISS lost communication with Earth?

7. What kind of emergency drills or practice do you do aboard the ISS, 

   and how often?

8. Do you need to drink more or less water in space than you do on 

   earth?

9. How do the plants orientate themselves to grow in space?

10. Is biological cell division the same in space as on Earth?

11. How did it feel to see Earth from space for the first time?

12. A part of the Scout Law is A Scout is Reverent.  Have you had a 

    memorable moment during your time on the ISS that has led to you 

    showing reverence?

13. Have you been on a spacewalk yet? If so, what is it like walking 

    outside the ISS?

14. Of all the professions available, why did you choose to become an 

    astronaut?

15. If there was one thing you wish you could have learned when you 

    were younger in an organization such as the Scouts, or at school, 

    to help you perform tasks in space, what would it be?

16. Are there any bugs or animals on the ISS now and if so, what is 

    their purpose?

17. What is the single most important quality that you possess that you 

    think got you into the space program?

18. With everyone, and many things, floating in microgravity, how do 

    you keep the space station clean?

19. Do you have regular sleep and work schedules?

20. What are the best and worst aspects about living on board the ISS?

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

                TDB

 

About ARISS

 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).  In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and 




students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Thu Jul 25 06:09:37 2019
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 03:09:37 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
Message-ID: <CAAy53m6S68DMZPm7K9O+S=Pt9QcLnJATdw7RNUKwCk0yuXMC4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
CAS-7B heard loud and clear over GG54 , 5:57 UTC, 25 JULY 2019.
Telemetry in 435.715 CW and transponder FM UP 145900, DW 435690 , both
working nice.
I`ll send a video to youtube.
Congrats !

-- 
*PY5LF *
*Luciano Fabricio*
*www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*


<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
Livre
de v?rus. www.avast.com
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>.
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

From alan.b.johnston at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 06:44:36 2019
From: alan.b.johnston at gmail.com (Alan Johnston)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:44:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
In-Reply-To: <CAAy53m6S68DMZPm7K9O+S=Pt9QcLnJATdw7RNUKwCk0yuXMC4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAy53m6S68DMZPm7K9O+S=Pt9QcLnJATdw7RNUKwCk0yuXMC4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKhHsXGwzNX3CbhR8rt7PXB9H44yH21saHqR0GtZ5VNdFQoJKQ@mail.gmail.com>

That's great news!

At SatNOGS, we are receiving CW telemetry as well:


https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&good=1&unvetted=0&failed=0&norad=99819

Congrats to CAMSAT and iSpace Hyperbola-1 on the launch!

73,
Alan
KU2Y

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:10 AM PY5LF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi
> CAS-7B heard loud and clear over GG54 , 5:57 UTC, 25 JULY 2019.
> Telemetry in 435.715 CW and transponder FM UP 145900, DW 435690 , both
> working nice.
> I`ll send a video to youtube.
> Congrats !
>
> --
> *PY5LF *
> *Luciano Fabricio*
> *www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*
>
>
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >
> Livre
> de v?rus. www.avast.com
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >.
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From camsat at vip.163.com  Thu Jul 25 06:55:55 2019
From: camsat at vip.163.com (Alan Kung)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:55:55 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B)  TLE Update
In-Reply-To: <1c7a6ebf.108155.16c26813d2b.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>
References: <1c7a6ebf.108155.16c26813d2b.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>
Message-ID: <6ba8f0d2.10cb99.16c27ea3302.Coremail.camsat@vip.163.com>


CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U          19206.21942130  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0 00008
2 99999 042.7823 008.1961 0016683 288.0410 222.2116 15.95196322000015

73!
Alan, BA1DU




From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 09:49:13 2019
From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan al-Basri)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 04:49:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] No TLM on AO-85 pass 2226z 24JUL2019
In-Reply-To: <CAPRXzyrEviuPRWXnh9g9y_ndTpr_VuwV77zSHAyYkexi7Liueg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM4UQf2WSMLo2ior05zyHDoYTAgG=rwUYmASf31G9saT5xz-1A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPRXzyrEviuPRWXnh9g9y_ndTpr_VuwV77zSHAyYkexi7Liueg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM4UQf0v+iQZWLmoEUGvi_ZXoM1hyW22A3PbfZBcUxc3YUajnw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mark, I should have mentioned voice ops were perfect. I just wanted
to make sure I wasn't using the bird when I should not have been.
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 7:17 PM Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Hasan,
>
> The bird is a bit unpredictable these days, due to lack of voltage from
> battery condition. It very well may from time to time be operational in
> what we call COR, or carrier operated repeater.  In this mode there is no
> data under voice (DUV).  So just enjoy the voice ops! It?ll fix itself or
> we?ll give it a nudge (command it) eventually.
>
> Mark N8MH
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:28 PM Hasan al-Basri via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Was TLM off for that pass? No DUV indication at all, I can usuaLly hear
>> the
>> sub-audible and nothing showing on FoxTelem softare.
>> 73 N0AN
>> Hasan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> --
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>

From ke4kol at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 25 11:12:47 2019
From: ke4kol at bellsouth.net (ke4kol)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:12:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29
References: <711111039.1303164.1564053167475.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <711111039.1303164.1564053167475@mail.yahoo.com>

What is the latest update on FO-29???
Thanks,Jim Bennett, KE4KOL.

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jul 25 11:53:09 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:53:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29
In-Reply-To: <711111039.1303164.1564053167475@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <711111039.1303164.1564053167475.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<711111039.1303164.1564053167475@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrJPzmD9jP83k9p2B4ah0jPVKzVFoKCQw+_R7j-CDH6NQ@mail.gmail.com>

The latest update is what was published in ANS-202.

FO-29 update from JARL

"Analog transmitters of Fuji No. 3 (FO-29) have been suspended since
July 9, 2019. Currently, we are doing situation grasp and information
gathering, but we will inform you as soon as the situation is
understood.

If you have telemetry data after July 8th (UTC), please send it to the
following address.

[Transmission destination of telemetry data] oper (at) jarl.org

Thank you for your cooperation in collecting information on "Fuji No.
3" of many users.

JARL Secretariat Member Section Fuji 3 Telemetry Section"

Source: https://www.hamlife.jp/2019/07/17/fo29-jas2-silent/

[ANS thanks hamlife.jp for the above information]

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 07:13 ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> What is the latest update on FO-29?
> Thanks,Jim Bennett, KE4KOL.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From aj9n at aol.com  Thu Jul 25 16:00:46 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:00:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-25 16:00
	UTC
References: <1302848721.607056.1564070446360.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1302848721.607056.1564070446360@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-25 16:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

?

24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia, telebridge via ON4ISS

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA

Contact is go for: Sat 2019-07-27 18:27:56 UTC 68 deg 

?

Exp. 60 on orbit (***)

Welcome aboard! (***)

Luca Parmitano KF5KDP

Alexander Skvortsov

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-25 16:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-17 04:00 UTC.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 120 

?

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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1324.

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1267. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

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?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

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Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

Exp. 60 on orbit (***)

Welcome aboard! (***)

Luca Parmitano KF5KDP

Alexander Skvortsov

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

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73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jul 25 17:02:35 2019
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 17:02:35 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM54/DM55 on Saturday (27 July 2019)
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcfrETYfMCLsejUpUchFO_wupjM-XdowroRPr7K0sDpuw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I am planning a day-trip to the DM54/DM55 grid boundary on Saturday, 27
July 2019. The spot I will use is one I have visited a few times in the
past, along old US-66 and next to the I-40 freeway in Navajo County,
Arizona - between Holbrook and Petrified Forest National Park. I hope to
be out there between 1600 and 1630 UTC, and plan to operate until sunset
(weather permitting). I will work FM, SSB, and - if available - packet
from there. QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World after I return
home, and QSL cards are available on request.

My travel to and from the DM54/DM55 grid boundary should be visible on
APRS as WD9EWK-9, and can be seen at (among other places):

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

I will use my @WD9EWK Twitter account to post updates during the day. If
you do not use Twitter, you can still see these updates in a web browser
at:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Thu Jul 25 17:07:21 2019
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:07:21 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
In-Reply-To: <59F47572-CC9F-437A-A15B-47A4B7BD59A6@gmail.com>
References: <CAAy53m6S68DMZPm7K9O+S=Pt9QcLnJATdw7RNUKwCk0yuXMC4A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKhHsXGwzNX3CbhR8rt7PXB9H44yH21saHqR0GtZ5VNdFQoJKQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAy53m7OzERJygbcVQAXks+iPDXgbAwBTUp51wWk85c72xf9vw@mail.gmail.com>
	<59F47572-CC9F-437A-A15B-47A4B7BD59A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAy53m5u5mTrC2DhUDOtc9JTxq3OpshS=LMOuK5XkPd4RERE1A@mail.gmail.com>

My suggestion for SatPC32 users,  doppler.sqf ;

CAS-7B,435715,0,USB,USB,NOR,0,0,TLM
CAS-7B,435690,145900,FM,FM,NOR,0,0

73

<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
Livre
de v?rus. www.avast.com
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>.
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

Em qui, 25 de jul de 2019 ?s 03:58, Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> ??????
>
> On Jul 25, 2019, at 09:53, PY5LF <py5lf at falautomation.com.br> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Telemetry heard ;
> CAS7B BP1B BP1B TVA TTT TT5 TET AAT DVD TBN VDV VAB TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT
> TTT TTT
> AEB T6T AAN AN6 TVD TVD TUD TVA TVT V64 V64 V64 TTN TAU OCAMSAT CAMSAT.
> 73
>
>
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Livre
> de v?rus. www.avast.com
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>.
> <#m_-6234311434558785333_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> Em qui, 25 de jul de 2019 ?s 03:44, Alan Johnston <
> alan.b.johnston at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> That's great news!
>>
>> At SatNOGS, we are receiving CW telemetry as well:
>>
>>
>> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&good=1&unvetted=0&failed=0&norad=99819
>>
>> Congrats to CAMSAT and iSpace Hyperbola-1 on the launch!
>>
>> 73,
>> Alan
>> KU2Y
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:10 AM PY5LF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> CAS-7B heard loud and clear over GG54 , 5:57 UTC, 25 JULY 2019.
>>> Telemetry in 435.715 CW and transponder FM UP 145900, DW 435690 , both
>>> working nice.
>>> I`ll send a video to youtube.
>>> Congrats !
>>>
>>> --
>>> *PY5LF *
>>> *Luciano Fabricio*
>>> *www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*
>>>
>>>
>>> <
>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>> >
>>> Livre
>>> de v?rus. www.avast.com
>>> <
>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>>> >.
>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>>>
>>
>
> --
> *PY5LF *
> *Luciano Fabricio*
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>
>

-- 
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 26 03:25:56 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:25:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>

It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month after
launch) at 0614z on 25 July:

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1

The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
and will remain off until we find out what happened.

In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.

Bob, WB4APR

From tnetcenter at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 03:34:50 2019
From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 20:34:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>

So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
straight ax.25 packet???

Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
CN94

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month after
> launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
>
> The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> and will remain off until we find out what happened.
>
> In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 03:40:46 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:40:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
In-Reply-To: <CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOaGAidqmvd4km7cnR6jHKtK_Z_DNHJQdMW_RzKn4ZWUZA@mail.gmail.com>

Great news, Bob!

Also, any idea (or suspect) what object # it is?

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR


===================================

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:34 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
> straight ax.25 packet???
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
> after
> > launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
> >
> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
> >
> > The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> > and will remain off until we find out what happened.
> >
> > In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> > downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 26 03:42:48 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:42:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
In-Reply-To: <CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNK1y73Jce6Z=9KxBOmv0WJdwF97=Bj6xWr+UNNhDtssdw@mail.gmail.com>

Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
447.605

PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1 should
be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
be it.

Bob

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
> straight ax.25 packet???
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
> after
> > launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
> >
> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
> >
> > The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> > and will remain off until we find out what happened.
> >
> > In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> > downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Fri Jul 26 03:51:58 2019
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 22:51:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS 7B
Message-ID: <2EED8FE9-8079-41E0-9912-D3C304B74183@verizon.net>

Do I assume that CAS -7B is one of the 2019-044 either A, B, or C?

Tom, N5HYP

From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jul 26 03:54:46 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:54:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS 7B
In-Reply-To: <2EED8FE9-8079-41E0-9912-D3C304B74183@verizon.net>
References: <2EED8FE9-8079-41E0-9912-D3C304B74183@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrkxO5PuJKosFCMyNqYu1tSeexnT87hwqzSBrxZqbYDsw@mail.gmail.com>

2019-044 is the Falcon 9 / Dragon launch this evening. CAS-7B Is one of the
2019-043 objects.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 23:52 Tom Schuessler via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Do I assume that CAS -7B is one of the 2019-044 either A, B, or C?
>
> Tom, N5HYP
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 26 03:56:00 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:56:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNK1y73Jce6Z=9KxBOmv0WJdwF97=Bj6xWr+UNNhDtssdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNK1y73Jce6Z=9KxBOmv0WJdwF97=Bj6xWr+UNNhDtssdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfN+oAFzxc+EcNCVqsLFC+ia7ai+fcBp+AVAXgBXobDZpzw@mail.gmail.com>

FREQ is 437.605 (corrected)
Object is 44355
I captured objects via VK6HAM at 151929 to 152812 for PSAT2 and for USNAP1
from 151803 to 152711 showing USNA P1 about a minute ahead of PSAT2.

It is only alive for about 60 to 70 minutes when in the sun apparently by
looking at the T# telemetry count.

Bob

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:42 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
> 447.605
>
> PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
> and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1 should
> be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
> object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
> be it.
>
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
>> straight ax.25 packet???
>>
>> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
>> CN94
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> > It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
>> after
>> > launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
>> >
>> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
>> >
>> > The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is
>> OFF
>> > and will remain off until we find out what happened.
>> >
>> > In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
>> > downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30
>> seconds.
>> >
>> > Bob, WB4APR
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 04:14:12 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 00:14:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS 7B
In-Reply-To: <2EED8FE9-8079-41E0-9912-D3C304B74183@verizon.net>
References: <2EED8FE9-8079-41E0-9912-D3C304B74183@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOYzQ229jhSuV8VmpNNgVvJ6xvyVU+g-=m57UEA=NSwg7g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tom!

I was just looking a few minutes ago to see if there was any update to the
prelim. TLE that put us in the ballpark for the first-day passes.

The object that matches very closely with what I had been using is:

2019-043A
1 44443U 19043A   19206.83879719  .00567805  13872-3  14102-2 0  9991
2 44443  42.7282   4.3070 0013867 278.1472 192.0477 15.94860803   101

... from:

https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt

So, I will give that a try on future passes.

-Scott,  K4KDR

==============================

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:52 PM Tom Schuessler via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Do I assume that CAS -7B is one of the 2019-044 either A, B, or C?
>
> Tom, N5HYP
>

From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Fri Jul 26 04:50:10 2019
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 01:50:10 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfN+oAFzxc+EcNCVqsLFC+ia7ai+fcBp+AVAXgBXobDZpzw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi
Both sats has just passed over here and , according to the signal in my
waterfall , USNAP1 is a little ahead than PSAT2 .
So , my gess is USNAP is 2019-036S and PSAT2 is 2019-036R .
Pictures shows in my waterfall , USNAP above and PSAT2 below ;

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2639663576053343&set=pcb.2639664352719932&type=3&av=100000291783743&eav=AfYkrcXaGaVW7_E4K7FyL9B5WQbzKcX9tQYz8pMPo8Pk7VBqUWfLb52LCbcDZlYYy2Y&__tn__=HH-R-R-R&eid=ARD-SX6ip8zSOwfd6MtlwK3BKYWsGfWBhNdxN-eoLaDGy6X7fQ3X4M4WxkbrxUa_gXz_hNlSO5bCvOU2


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Em sex, 26 de jul de 2019 ?s 01:20, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> escreveu:

> FREQ is 437.605 (corrected)
> Object is 44355
> I captured objects via VK6HAM at 151929 to 152812 for PSAT2 and for USNAP1
> from 151803 to 152711 showing USNA P1 about a minute ahead of PSAT2.
>
> It is only alive for about 60 to 70 minutes when in the sun apparently by
> looking at the T# telemetry count.
>
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:42 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
> > 447.605
> >
> > PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
> > and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1
> should
> > be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
> > object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
> > be it.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is
> it
> >> straight ax.25 packet???
> >>
> >> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> >> CN94
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
> >> after
> >> > launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
> >> >
> >> > The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is
> >> OFF
> >> > and will remain off until we find out what happened.
> >> >
> >> > In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> >> > downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30
> >> seconds.
> >> >
> >> > Bob, WB4APR
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From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Fri Jul 26 08:00:23 2019
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:00:23 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
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I am still confused about USNAP1.

Will it use the BRICSAT-2 name as identification or "USNAP1" ?

This is what is registered at the IARU coordination website: 
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=472

Then it becomes even more confusing.

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From pedro at dutrasousa.name  Fri Jul 26 09:26:44 2019
From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (Pedro Dutra Sousa)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:26:44 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
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Hi,

I decoded at least one packet from USNAP1-1 around late last week. It showed up in my mheard list and had me looking for who was it. Never occurred to me to contact you about that.
I?m not logging raw packets so I can?t retrieve what the contents were, and findu doesn?t show it anymore...

73 Pedro CU2ZG 

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> On 26 Jul 2019, at 03:25, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month after
> launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
> 
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
> 
> The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> and will remain off until we find out what happened.
> 
> In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 26 11:44:29 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 07:44:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
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Thanks for remembering that!
Bob

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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse

Hi,

I decoded at least one packet from USNAP1-1 around late last week. It showed
up in my mheard list and had me looking for who was it. Never occurred to me
to contact you about that.
I?m not logging raw packets so I can?t retrieve what the contents were, and
findu doesn?t show it anymore...

73 Pedro CU2ZG

Sent from my iPhone
Please excuse any typos or briefness

> On 26 Jul 2019, at 03:25, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
> after
> launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
>
> The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is
> OFF and will remain off until we find out what happened.
>
> In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 26 12:20:39 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 08:20:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
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USNAP1 on 145.825 also uses the call of

USNA14 on 437.605 MHz 9600 baud



And has been added to the http://aprs.org/sats.html web page



*From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:56 PM
*To:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
*Cc:* Jin Kang <kang at usna.edu>; Jeffery King <jking at usna.edu>; Robert
Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE



FREQ is 437.605 (corrected)

Object is 44355

I captured objects via VK6HAM at 151929 to 152812 for PSAT2 and for USNAP1
from 151803 to 152711 showing USNA P1 about a minute ahead of PSAT2.

It is only alive for about 60 to 70 minutes when in the sun apparently by
looking at the T# telemetry count.

Bob



On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:42 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
447.605

PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1 should
be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
be it.

Bob



On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
straight ax.25 packet???

Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
CN94

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month after
> launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
>
> The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> and will remain off until we find out what happened.
>
> In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From reid.crowe at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 15:43:43 2019
From: reid.crowe at gmail.com (Reid Crowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:43:43 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Using JPL Horizons Ephemerides Data
Message-ID: <CA+PU+9hcpfKNEL5d6NrazejDe-KumpbjvsA_GMb-zspH40E=OQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to use (or convert) JPL Horizons Ephemerides data with
tracking programs like SatPC32 that use Two Line Elements?

73,

Reid N0RC

From reid.crowe at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 15:53:09 2019
From: reid.crowe at gmail.com (Reid Crowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:53:09 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Using JPL Horizons Ephemerides Data
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Looks like someone is already on it:
https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1154760899522994177

73,

Reid N0RC

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:43 AM Reid Crowe <reid.crowe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to use (or convert) JPL Horizons Ephemerides data with
> tracking programs like SatPC32 that use Two Line Elements?
>
> 73,
>
> Reid N0RC

From alan.b.johnston at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 16:26:13 2019
From: alan.b.johnston at gmail.com (Alan Johnston)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:26:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
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Hi Bob,

At SatNOGS, we are getting some good 437.605 MHz 9k6 signals from
BRICSat-2/USNAP-1 .  They haven't automatically decoded yet, perhaps due to
the 5kHz frequency offset.  But you can download the audio file and you
should be able to decode them.

Here are some good ones:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861257/
https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861256/
https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861250/

Future good observations will be displayed here:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&bad=0&unvetted=0&failed=0&norad=99970&observer=&station=&start-time=&end-time=

Good luck!!

73,
Alan
KU2Y

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 8:22 AM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> USNAP1 on 145.825 also uses the call of
>
> USNA14 on 437.605 MHz 9600 baud
>
>
>
> And has been added to the http://aprs.org/sats.html web page
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:56 PM
> *To:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> *Cc:* Jin Kang <kang at usna.edu>; Jeffery King <jking at usna.edu>; Robert
> Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
>
>
>
> FREQ is 437.605 (corrected)
>
> Object is 44355
>
> I captured objects via VK6HAM at 151929 to 152812 for PSAT2 and for USNAP1
> from 151803 to 152711 showing USNA P1 about a minute ahead of PSAT2.
>
> It is only alive for about 60 to 70 minutes when in the sun apparently by
> looking at the T# telemetry count.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:42 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
> 447.605
>
> PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
> and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1 should
> be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
> object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
> be it.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
> straight ax.25 packet???
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
> after
> > launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
> >
> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
> >
> > The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> > and will remain off until we find out what happened.
> >
> > In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> > downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jul 26 16:30:57 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:30:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <CAKhHsXERT7hr5s7c=-8WO-AbDO9k80fSbuRZmJyZ01wSA3T_VQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNK1y73Jce6Z=9KxBOmv0WJdwF97=Bj6xWr+UNNhDtssdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfN+oAFzxc+EcNCVqsLFC+ia7ai+fcBp+AVAXgBXobDZpzw@mail.gmail.com>
	<0db77ade5eed364b9d306079764970c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKhHsXERT7hr5s7c=-8WO-AbDO9k80fSbuRZmJyZ01wSA3T_VQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6136710152fb4ce1a6ee7f04d3bd487d@mail.gmail.com>

We are guessing at the 437.605 center freq.  It was purchased as 437.600
but we think we remember it did better at 437.605 on one of our radios.



Do you see an offset?  If so, simply ceneter where you see it. And see if
decodes are better.

Thanks

Bob



*From:* Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston at gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2019 12:26 PM
*To:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Cc:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; Jeff King <jking at usna.edu>; Jin Kang <
kang at usna.edu>
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE



Hi Bob,



At SatNOGS, we are getting some good 437.605 MHz 9k6 signals from
BRICSat-2/USNAP-1 .  They haven't automatically decoded yet, perhaps due to
the 5kHz frequency offset.  But you can download the audio file and you
should be able to decode them.



Here are some good ones:



https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861257/

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861256/

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861250/



Future good observations will be displayed here:



https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&bad=0&unvetted=0&failed=0&norad=99970&observer=&station=&start-time=&end-time=



Good luck!!



73,

Alan

KU2Y



On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 8:22 AM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

USNAP1 on 145.825 also uses the call of

USNA14 on 437.605 MHz 9600 baud



And has been added to the http://aprs.org/sats.html web page



*From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:56 PM
*To:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
*Cc:* Jin Kang <kang at usna.edu>; Jeffery King <jking at usna.edu>; Robert
Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE



FREQ is 437.605 (corrected)

Object is 44355

I captured objects via VK6HAM at 151929 to 152812 for PSAT2 and for USNAP1
from 151803 to 152711 showing USNA P1 about a minute ahead of PSAT2.

It is only alive for about 60 to 70 minutes when in the sun apparently by
looking at the T# telemetry count.

Bob



On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:42 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
447.605

PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1 should
be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
be it.

Bob



On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
>
wrote:

So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
straight ax.25 packet???

Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
CN94

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month after
> launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
>
> The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> and will remain off until we find out what happened.
>
> In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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From zleffke at vt.edu  Fri Jul 26 16:43:20 2019
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:43:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Using JPL Horizons Ephemerides Data
In-Reply-To: <CA+PU+9hyerbDhzAtshFSrcrFJKbFdo8Ohivz6hscxoLJQogBmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+PU+9hcpfKNEL5d6NrazejDe-KumpbjvsA_GMb-zspH40E=OQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+PU+9hyerbDhzAtshFSrcrFJKbFdo8Ohivz6hscxoLJQogBmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10c1218d-c3e2-ce45-7fe5-88f5865f63a6@vt.edu>

Not an expert on this so will keep it short:

We had a student at VT look into this for tracking 'Deep Space' objects. 
  He figured out how to access the Horizons website via one of their 
API's (not sure which) and then figured out how to 'shoehorn' the data 
into python scripts that used the 'pyephem' package.

pyephem has been deprecated and replaced by 'SkyField' and is wayyy more 
powerful and has support for things like an SGP4 propagator for 
satellite tracking, and support for tracking astronomical objects (our 
moon/sun for EME'rs on the list and for future Amateur Radio on the 
Lunar Gateway, Jupiter+moons, other radio astronomy sources, etc....). I 
think even directly supports this kind of thing through a 'jplephem' 
package (where it gets the ephemeride data for planets, moons, etc...). 
So might be as easy as download from Horizons (if not directly 
accessible in skyfield), load into skyfield.....yadda yadda yadda 
(seinfeld reference)......get pointing/doppler data for deep space objects.

Bottom line, for those interested in custom software, should look into 
'skyfield' to maybe work with this type of data in python (along with 
TLE data) and there's probably a way to 'export' the ephemerides into 
TLE format so that the results can be used to 'spoof' existing tracking 
programs (technically, SGP4+TLEs are only valid for 'near earth' 
tracking, not even the right algorithm for Lunar/Solar tracking, that's 
why I say 'spoof').

https://rhodesmill.org/skyfield/

-Zach, KJ4QLP

Research Associate
Aerospace Systems Lab
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

On 7/26/2019 11:53 AM, Reid Crowe via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Looks like someone is already on it:
> https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1154760899522994177
> 
> 73,
> 
> Reid N0RC
> 
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:43 AM Reid Crowe <reid.crowe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to use (or convert) JPL Horizons Ephemerides data with
>> tracking programs like SatPC32 that use Two Line Elements?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Reid N0RC
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From alan.b.johnston at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 16:50:05 2019
From: alan.b.johnston at gmail.com (Alan Johnston)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:50:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <6136710152fb4ce1a6ee7f04d3bd487d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKRFFfyLvVo8EKmyJZRymN0Ot3LXzpQRswNOYbAU1L6xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNLvmKVfFyYo+scXgkCdQHxTOzC6tTQ2VfLQvxmt4tz8=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moR_e5_K--pPyTsw1XgbJ1M3HCgLPqg1=3iAMG9jKyobAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfNK1y73Jce6Z=9KxBOmv0WJdwF97=Bj6xWr+UNNhDtssdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALdCfN+oAFzxc+EcNCVqsLFC+ia7ai+fcBp+AVAXgBXobDZpzw@mail.gmail.com>
	<0db77ade5eed364b9d306079764970c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKhHsXERT7hr5s7c=-8WO-AbDO9k80fSbuRZmJyZ01wSA3T_VQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<6136710152fb4ce1a6ee7f04d3bd487d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKhHsXGcLfS1pkxRLW56dCu1xhUvS_gn4f5etm_HGdNLBUB7ug@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

Fredy at SatNOGS managed to decode one frame from these observations:

[0.4] USNA14-5>APUSNA,TELEM:{BR0000003463,0000003463,BV7.5,BT23,BC+166,BB57,
12B3,5B47,3B54,XV6.5,X+C6,X+T-9,X-C360,X-T23,YV3.8,Y+C6,Y+T-10,Y-C190
,Y-T63,ZV3.4,Z-C53,Z-T0,XG-13.2,YG-19.0,ZG2.4,XM-51.9,YM-134.3,ZM317.4,GT7,
0100 ------ U frame UI: p/f=0, No layer 3 protocol implemented., length =
219 dest APUSNA 0 c/r=0 res=3 last=0 source USNA14 5 c/r=0 res=3 last=0
digi 1 TELEM 0 h=0 res=3 last=1 000: 82 a0 aa a6 9c 82 60 aa a6 9c 82 62 68
6a a8 8a ......`....bhj.. 010: 98 8a 9a 40 61 03 f0 7b 42 52 30 30 30 30 30
30 ... at a..{BR000000 020: 33 34 36 33 2c 30 30 30 30 30 30 33 34 36 33 2c
3463,0000003463, 030: 42 56 37 2e 35 2c 42 54 32 33 2c 42 43 2b 31 36
BV7.5,BT23,BC+16 040: 36 2c 42 42 35 37 2c 31 32 42 33 2c 35 42 34 37
6,BB57,12B3,5B47 050: 2c 33 42 35 34 2c 58 56 36 2e 35 2c 58 2b 43 36
,3B54,XV6.5,X+C6 060: 2c 58 2b 54 2d 39 2c 58 2d 43 33 36 30 2c 58 2d
,X+T-9,X-C360,X- 070: 54 32 33 2c 59 56 33 2e 38 2c 59 2b 43 36 2c 59
T23,YV3.8,Y+C6,Y 080: 2b 54 2d 31 30 2c 59 2d 43 31 39 30 2c 59 2d 54
+T-10,Y-C190,Y-T 090: 36 33 2c 5a 56 33 2e 34 2c 5a 2d 43 35 33 2c 5a
63,ZV3.4,Z-C53,Z 0a0: 2d 54 30 2c 58 47 2d 31 33 2e 32 2c 59 47 2d 31
-T0,XG-13.2,YG-1 0b0: 39 2e 30 2c 5a 47 32 2e 34 2c 58 4d 2d 35 31 2e
9.0,ZG2.4,XM-51. 0c0: 39 2c 59 4d 2d 31 33 34 2e 33 2c 5a 4d 33 31 37
9,YM-134.3,ZM317 0d0: 2e 34 2c 47 54 37 2c 30 31 30 30 .4,GT7,0100 ------
We were curious why 9k6 was chosen, as it seems to be difficult to decode
even with these strong signals on a high pass.

73,
Alan
KU2Y




On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 12:31 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> We are guessing at the 437.605 center freq.  It was purchased as 437.600
> but we think we remember it did better at 437.605 on one of our radios.
>
>
>
> Do you see an offset?  If so, simply ceneter where you see it. And see if
> decodes are better.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2019 12:26 PM
> *To:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> *Cc:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; Jeff King <jking at usna.edu>; Jin Kang
> <kang at usna.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse
> -UPDATE
>
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
>
>
> At SatNOGS, we are getting some good 437.605 MHz 9k6 signals from
> BRICSat-2/USNAP-1 .  They haven't automatically decoded yet, perhaps due to
> the 5kHz frequency offset.  But you can download the audio file and you
> should be able to decode them.
>
>
>
> Here are some good ones:
>
>
>
> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861257/
>
> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861256/
>
> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/861250/
>
>
>
> Future good observations will be displayed here:
>
>
>
>
> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&bad=0&unvetted=0&failed=0&norad=99970&observer=&station=&start-time=&end-time=
>
>
>
> Good luck!!
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
>
> KU2Y
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 8:22 AM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> USNAP1 on 145.825 also uses the call of
>
> USNA14 on 437.605 MHz 9600 baud
>
>
>
> And has been added to the http://aprs.org/sats.html web page
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:56 PM
> *To:* amsat bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> *Cc:* Jin Kang <kang at usna.edu>; Jeffery King <jking at usna.edu>; Robert
> Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: USNAP1 lives! - capture UHF data pse -UPDATE
>
>
>
> FREQ is 437.605 (corrected)
>
> Object is 44355
>
> I captured objects via VK6HAM at 151929 to 152812 for PSAT2 and for USNAP1
> from 151803 to 152711 showing USNA P1 about a minute ahead of PSAT2.
>
> It is only alive for about 60 to 70 minutes when in the sun apparently by
> looking at the T# telemetry count.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:42 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Standard 9600 baud AX.25.  No special software.  Just need raw packets.on
> 447.605
>
> PSAT2 and USNAP1 were delppyed together and have identical external shape
> and so should be in same orbit, but due to mass differences, USNAP1 should
> be LEADING PSAT2.  We need to know by houw much.  Since PSAT2 is likely
> object 44354, and 44355 is very slightly leading (by 1 minute) that could
> be it.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:33 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> So what do we need to copy the downlink data??   Is there an app or is it
> straight ax.25 packet???
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > It looks liike PSAT2's sister cubesat finally woke up today (a month
> after
> > launch) at 0614z on 25 July:
> >
> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=usnap1-1&time=1
> >
> > The VHF telemetry shown here has only bus voltage.  The digipeater is OFF
> > and will remain off until we find out what happened.
> >
> > In the mean time, we need all the capture we can get of the 9600 baud
> > downlink on 437.605 MHz +/- Doppler.  There is a beacon every 30 seconds.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From corlissbs at aol.com  Fri Jul 26 21:15:58 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Question
References: <850953008.960727.1564175758933.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <850953008.960727.1564175758933@mail.yahoo.com>

I have two Arrow 2 antennas and have been using them since 2013 on FM satellites. I use a Kenwood TH-D72 radio which is full duplex, so I can hear myself very well when I get into the bird. I am wondering about a phenomenon that I experience and why it happens.

It is much easier for me to hit the bird (and I have a much louder signal) when the bird is just about on the horizon than when it is directly overhead, or at a very high altitude. This should not be the case, as overhead it is only 400 miles away, but on the horizon, it is 2,000 miles away. But I am so much louder at the horizon. I "boom" into the bird. Does anyone have any answer to why this is?
Brad KC9UQR


From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Jul 26 21:34:11 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:34:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <850953008.960727.1564175758933@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <850953008.960727.1564175758933.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<850953008.960727.1564175758933@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f22710ad-acc8-fc2e-1986-c444fd389129@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-26 16:15, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I have two Arrow 2 antennas and have been using them since 2013 on FM satellites. I use a Kenwood TH-D72 radio which is full duplex, so I can hear myself very well when I get into the bird. I am wondering about a phenomenon that I experience and why it happens.
> 
> It is much easier for me to hit the bird (and I have a much louder signal) when the bird is just about on the horizon than when it is directly overhead, or at a very high altitude. This should not be the case, as overhead it is only 400 miles away, but on the horizon, it is 2,000 miles away. But I am so much louder at the horizon. I "boom" into the bird. Does anyone have any answer to why this is?

Hello Brad,

"Louder" is more S-meter bars, or audibly louder?

The received RF power should be greater overhead (twist your antenna a 
bit to change polarization and check). This results in more S-meter bars.

Is the horizon, for you, over a relatively unpopulated area? Do you live 
in a more populated area?

Demodulated audio may be quieter due to the myriad of people trying to 
cram into one channel and the uplink FM receiver PLL tracking the 
resulting chaos. This is my guess, as I haven't done analysis on the 
effect.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 22:04:11 2019
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:04:11 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <f22710ad-acc8-fc2e-1986-c444fd389129@pobox.com>
References: <850953008.960727.1564175758933.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<850953008.960727.1564175758933@mail.yahoo.com>
	<f22710ad-acc8-fc2e-1986-c444fd389129@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <fe53f3bc-2b32-80ae-6ef7-ad473211f03f@gmail.com>

Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On 2019-07-26 16:15, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> I have two Arrow 2 antennas and have been using them since 2013 on FM
>> satellites. I use a Kenwood TH-D72 radio which is full duplex, so I
>> can hear myself very well when I get into the bird. I am wondering
>> about a phenomenon that I experience and why it happens.
>>
>> It is much easier for me to hit the bird (and I have a much louder
>> signal) when the bird is just about on the horizon than when it is
>> directly overhead, or at a very high altitude. This should not be the
>> case, as overhead it is only 400 miles away, but on the horizon, it
>> is 2,000 miles away. But I am so much louder at the horizon. I "boom"
>> into the bird. Does anyone have any answer to why this is?
>
> Hello Brad,
>
> "Louder" is more S-meter bars, or audibly louder?
>
> The received RF power should be greater overhead (twist your antenna a
> bit to change polarization and check). This results in more S-meter bars.
>
> Is the horizon, for you, over a relatively unpopulated area? Do you
> live in a more populated area?
>
> Demodulated audio may be quieter due to the myriad of people trying to
> cram into one channel and the uplink FM receiver PLL tracking the
> resulting chaos. This is my guess, as I haven't done analysis on the
> effect.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO

There is also the effect of the reflection off the Earth that can add
3db to your received signal on low passes.  I believe this is well used
by EME operators.  But I don't think that fully makes up for the
distance penalty.  There is also the effect that the satellite's
radiation pattern isn't necessarily equal in all directions, and other
than the ISS, most are tumbling somewhat at random.  That, I think,
could be the main cause of the different signal reports.

Greg  KO6TH


From rjlawn at gmail.com  Fri Jul 26 22:06:49 2019
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:06:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Not responding with 9700
Message-ID: <CADQmrTEvsXF_mE51XeTDqDYpZtv6pzni7NtLyo+KNc3AaCzsJA@mail.gmail.com>

All was well until suddenly SatPC32 started to not respond and lock up. I'm
using Win 10 with the most current version of SatPC32 and the Icom 9700. I
left the station for about a week but have made no changes since all last
worked. Any suggestions? Uninstall SatPC32 and reinstall it?

Rick, W2JAZ

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Jul 26 22:19:16 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 17:19:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <fe53f3bc-2b32-80ae-6ef7-ad473211f03f@gmail.com>
References: <850953008.960727.1564175758933.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<850953008.960727.1564175758933@mail.yahoo.com>
	<f22710ad-acc8-fc2e-1986-c444fd389129@pobox.com>
	<fe53f3bc-2b32-80ae-6ef7-ad473211f03f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ea48d946-7194-e0d5-9b12-ad9db11a6a55@pobox.com>

On 2019-07-26 17:04, Greg D wrote:

> There is also the effect of the reflection off the Earth that can add
> 3db to your received signal on low passes.  I believe this is well used
> by EME operators.  But I don't think that fully makes up for the
> distance penalty.  There is also the effect that the satellite's
> radiation pattern isn't necessarily equal in all directions, and other
> than the ISS, most are tumbling somewhat at random.  That, I think,
> could be the main cause of the different signal reports.

Hello Greg,

Using the calculator over at pasternack.com for 70cm:

2000 mile Free Space Path Loss: 	155.4 dB
400 mile  Free Space Path Loss: 	141.4 dB

I suspect he's referring to audio loudness, since the FM threshold 
effect would be in play once the CNR was > 8dB (assuming narrowband FM).

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc  Fri Jul 26 22:50:50 2019
From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:50:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] No TLM on AO-85 pass 2226z 24JUL2019
In-Reply-To: <CAM4UQf0v+iQZWLmoEUGvi_ZXoM1hyW22A3PbfZBcUxc3YUajnw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM4UQf2WSMLo2ior05zyHDoYTAgG=rwUYmASf31G9saT5xz-1A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPRXzyrEviuPRWXnh9g9y_ndTpr_VuwV77zSHAyYkexi7Liueg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM4UQf0v+iQZWLmoEUGvi_ZXoM1hyW22A3PbfZBcUxc3YUajnw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxVxV5xnwwvM-ugOCkXzVUYd0b2rRWQz=xBj5Uqs3tNzPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for checking, Hasan.  As Mark said, COR is a fallback mode designed
into the Fox satellites for when the IHU is not operating for whatever
reason.  There have been times when the IHU decided to reset, and a QSO
continued on across the reset unhindered (I've heard the audio
recording--it was pretty cool!)

73,

Burns WB1FJ (Fox software lead)

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:50 AM Hasan al-Basri via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Thanks Mark, I should have mentioned voice ops were perfect. I just wanted
> to make sure I wasn't using the bird when I should not have been.
> 73, N0AN
> Hasan
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 7:17 PM Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Hasan,
> >
> > The bird is a bit unpredictable these days, due to lack of voltage from
> > battery condition. It very well may from time to time be operational in
> > what we call COR, or carrier operated repeater.  In this mode there is no
> > data under voice (DUV).  So just enjoy the voice ops! It?ll fix itself or
> > we?ll give it a nudge (command it) eventually.
> >
> > Mark N8MH
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:28 PM Hasan al-Basri via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Was TLM off for that pass? No DUV indication at all, I can usuaLly hear
> >> the
> >> sub-audible and nothing showing on FoxTelem softare.
> >> 73 N0AN
> >> Hasan
> >> _______________________________________________
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> > --
> > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> >
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From corlissbs at aol.com  Fri Jul 26 23:02:43 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 23:02:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Antenna Question
References: <1682004349.722490.1564182163955.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1682004349.722490.1564182163955@mail.yahoo.com>

<"Louder" is more S-meter bars, or audibly louder?>
<Is the horizon, for you, over a relatively unpopulated area? Do you live
in a more populated area?>
Audibly much louder at or near the horizon. I have never checked the S-meter while transmitting, but relied on what I hear in my earphones. Actually, on the D72, the S-meter only operates on receive and displays the power level on transmit, so it won't tell me what I need to know.
Not super populated and I roam a lot and notice the same thing happening no matter where I go-as long as I have a pretty good view of the horizon.
Brad Smith KC9UQR


From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 27 06:21:28 2019
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 06:21:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Antenna Question
In-Reply-To: <1682004349.722490.1564182163955@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1682004349.722490.1564182163955.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1682004349.722490.1564182163955@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1015577886.1108355.1564208488294@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Brad, 
? 
There is one more thing that may be causing this as an indirect effect.? It is related to the way we have to twist the beams to match the phase of the signals. 

At very low angles the phase is mostly vertical doesn't seem to change and the signal is consistent. Whereas on higher ones the beams have to be turned VERY OFTEN to keep up with the rapid phase changes. 

There have been discussions on this BB and in articles about why this happens but as a net effect the downlink sounds pretty bad on very high passes.? It sounds great for a second and becomes pure noise the next second.? I hope this is what you are referring to.? 
? 
In contrast, when using a RHCP antenna, the signal is strongest at higher elevations, as it should logically be.? Unfortunately RHCP antennas are surely not meant for hand held operation. 
? 
( as a side note, I'd like to add that I'm thrilled to get 6 of 9 bars from a tiny satellite that is 2000 miles away, Wow !) 
?
73!? 
Umesh, k6vug 
?
?
?



    On Friday, July 26, 2019, 4:03:14 PM PDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 <"Louder" is more S-meter bars, or audibly louder?>
<Is the horizon, for you, over a relatively unpopulated area? Do you live
in a more populated area?>
Audibly much louder at or near the horizon. I have never checked the S-meter while transmitting, but relied on what I hear in my earphones. Actually, on the D72, the S-meter only operates on receive and displays the power level on transmit, so it won't tell me what I need to know.
Not super populated and I roam a lot and notice the same thing happening no matter where I go-as long as I have a pretty good view of the horizon.
Brad Smith KC9UQR

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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sat Jul 27 15:10:26 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 11:10:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] First DTMF grids via PSAT2
In-Reply-To: <9b0053a24d34a0a1195a7e7c71923ce0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKhROgY-thDdB+uiBy+-0_xs9d-GYGYpU0BOGBEidSXzg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAy53m6rqnMXjFt2zkkg=zh8=aRr5gt4+xS75VcKQACJ887oCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9b0053a24d34a0a1195a7e7c71923ce0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNL8inbcOQsU7933uS=x5rpRccnFzVpD4DK1LJe=DNR0mQ@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 is in DTMF-grid-to-voice mode and will remain that way until we find
out how viable this mode is (any radio can uplink, not just APRS radios).

So far the DTMF downlink beacon only shows a few stations i n Brazil have
tried this mode:
PSAT2-1>APOFF::BLNd-DTMF:f|PY5LF0,PU5NOC,PY5LAF,P,,,,,

Uplink is on 145.980.  See how on the PSAT2 page: http://aprs.org/sats.html

Just load your 16digit DTMF string into DTMF memory and transmit (with
radio in narrowband FM and only in the center of the pass with zero
doppler).

Downlink is Voice and APRS packet on 145.825

Bob, WB4APR

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:36 AM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> Here is a video PY5LF recorded of his first successful DTMF Grid uplink:
>
> You do not hear his DTMF uplink but you hear the voice response and the
> APRS packet that results:
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/py5lf/videos/2634132619939772/?t=0
>
>
>
> That packet is a 3rd party APRS format for that grid report.  It did not
> get picked up by either the PSAT2 telemetry or USER pages beacause of the 3
> rd party format probably.  Ill see if we can fix that.
>

From wmc_jx at 163.com  Sat Jul 27 15:36:05 2019
From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 23:36:05 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Might be the last update for DSLWP-B Lunar-Oscar-94
Message-ID: <5b9215b8.85fd.16c341324cd.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com>

Hi OMs,


Here is the DSLWP-B UHF plan for the following days:


29 Jul 00:15 to 02:15
29 Jul 04:30 to 06:30
29 Jul 20:00 to 22:00
30 Jul 05:30 to 07:30
30 Jul 16:20 to 18:20
31 Jul 06:30 to 08:30
31 Jul 13:24 to 15.24
1 Aug 05:30 to 07:30


All time in UTC. GMSK on both freq & JT4G on 435.4. JT4G repeater message on 436.4 TBD.


Lunar impact expected to be at about 31 Jul 14:20. Later windows for backup.



SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html   

Online JT4G telemetry forwarder: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html   
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html 



VY TNX & 73!


Wei BG2BHC



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com




 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Jul 27 15:52:00 2019
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 09:52:00 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>

Hi Kees,

   I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone app?
] tracking software) before her summer is over.  What did you decide on
for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?

   Thanks,

        Ron VE8RT DP22

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using only 2
> Boafengs.  I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even AO-91
> and 92.  I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> downlink.  However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full duplex on
> SO-50.  Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
> 
> 73 de KE0STO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From ke4al at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 27 16:16:35 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:16:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>

Ron,
There are only 6 SO-50 capable HT options that I am aware: (May be more, but these are commonly available)
1)? Kenwood TH-D72 (still in production, so new or used markets)2)? Kenwood TH-D7 (out of production)3) Yaesu FT-530 (out of production)4)? Icom IC-Z1A (out of production)5)? Icom IC-W2A (out of production)6)? Icom IC-W32 (earlier model with 5-digit SN) (out of production)
I have personally used the TH-D72, FT-530, and IC-Z1A on SO-50.
Would recommend TH-D72, if you can budget allows.? Otherwise Yaesu FT-530.? I picked up a FT-530 at a hamfest last year for $25 and had to spend another $30 for a new battery.
73,

Robert Bankston, KE4AL
Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 

    On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 10:59:17 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Hi Kees,

? I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone app?
] tracking software) before her summer is over.? What did you decide on
for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?

? Thanks,

? ? ? ? Ron VE8RT DP22

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using only 2
> Boafengs.? I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even AO-91
> and 92.? I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> downlink.? However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full duplex on
> SO-50.? Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
> 
> 73 de KE0STO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From john at amber.org.uk  Sat Jul 27 16:47:10 2019
From: john at amber.org.uk (John)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:47:10 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators
Message-ID: <096301d5449a$f02470b0$d06d5210$@amber.org.uk>

Hi All,

 

For various reasons, we use PSTRotator to control our rotator/elevator stack
- mostly due to the need for IP control of the ERC-M, which SatPC32 doesn't
seem to natively handle.

 

It all works fine, for the most part, with the exception of the fact that I
don't seem to be able to change my endstop value - normally this would be in
the "Rotor" configuration settings, but since I'm leaving SatPC32 set to
'None' and having PSTRotator in 'Tracking' mode (it follows SatPC32's
headings anyway), I can't see the option (it's not in the list) in order to
pick South for my endstop instead of North.

 

I can choose between 90 and 180 degree elevation (we use 180 as we only have
360 degrees of azimuth), but does anyone know how I can make SatPC32
understand the endstop being at the North instead of the South?

 

Many thanks in advance,

 

John (M5ET)


From john at amber.org.uk  Sat Jul 27 17:35:42 2019
From: john at amber.org.uk (John)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:35:42 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FeeJvWW1OBk64BxWbTQHESOAOV=L0wV9_7upKyaaf_qDw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <096301d5449a$f02470b0$d06d5210$@amber.org.uk>
	<CAEMY9FewurOenV4THSYR2e1v7nwmM+h5WEYW3goVs1k+rBEDMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<096c01d5449e$f07c30d0$d1749270$@amber.org.uk>
	<CAEMY9FeeJvWW1OBk64BxWbTQHESOAOV=L0wV9_7upKyaaf_qDw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <097501d544a1$b7a53a60$26efaf20$@amber.org.uk>

Hi Dave,

 

The ERC unit runs via an IP serial server, so that we can access it from multiple parts of the site. We have a similar remote control mechanism for the rig, but that side all works fine.

 

Still waiting for the next pass that goes through North, to see if SatPC32 now remembers the endstop as North!

 

John (M5ET)

 

From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> 
Sent: 27 July 2019 18:20
To: John <john at amber.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators

 

So you have the ERC unit connected via IP and not USB?

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S9

 

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 1:15 PM John <john at amber.org.uk <mailto:john at amber.org.uk> > wrote:

Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for the insights ? yes, PST is set correctly with North as the endstop.

 

When I select Yaesu GS232, it goes through the whole ?you need to set up serversdx? palaver, which since I?m unable to use SDX (it doesn?t talk IP), seems a little counter intuitive. That said, it did make the option to set an endstop temporarily available, so hopefully by changing it, storing the configs and then choosing ?None? again, it might remember the North endstop. My next pass in a few minutes will hopefully confirm.

 

PST has no issue tracking the headings that SatPC32 displays even with the rotor set to none, so hopefully the temporary enable then disable will work. I?ll report back shortly.

 

John (M5ET)

 

From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com <mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com> > 
Sent: 27 July 2019 18:00
To: John <john at amber.org.uk <mailto:john at amber.org.uk> >
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators

 

John,

 

 In Rotor setup in SatPC32 you select Yaesu_GS-232 in the drop-down for the ERC-M controller, FYI. 

 

In the PSTRotator Satellite Tracking window if you click on Setup>Rotor Stop you can select North or South. 

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S9

 

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 12:48 PM John via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org> > wrote:

Hi All,



For various reasons, we use PSTRotator to control our rotator/elevator stack
- mostly due to the need for IP control of the ERC-M, which SatPC32 doesn't
seem to natively handle.



It all works fine, for the most part, with the exception of the fact that I
don't seem to be able to change my endstop value - normally this would be in
the "Rotor" configuration settings, but since I'm leaving SatPC32 set to
'None' and having PSTRotator in 'Tracking' mode (it follows SatPC32's
headings anyway), I can't see the option (it's not in the list) in order to
pick South for my endstop instead of North.



I can choose between 90 and 180 degree elevation (we use 180 as we only have
360 degrees of azimuth), but does anyone know how I can make SatPC32
understand the endstop being at the North instead of the South?



Many thanks in advance,



John (M5ET)

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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Jul 27 19:30:09 2019
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 13:30:09 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
	<397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20190727133009.4ac1f9031a8672612d59157d@yknwt.ca>

Very helpful,

   its challenging to buy used gear here, not everyone will ship
outside of the CONUS never mind to Canada.  I'm interested in buying
more than one working FT-530, if we get more new operators (who do not
have HF privileges) in the north it seems like a good idea to try to
standardize the radio.  

   Thanks for the advice, I should put my new V71 to use on get on more
from DP22 myself.

    Ron VE8RT DP22

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:16:35 +0000 (UTC)
Robert Bankston <ke4al at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ron,
> There are only 6 SO-50 capable HT options that I am aware: (May be more, but these are commonly available)
> 1)? Kenwood TH-D72 (still in production, so new or used markets)2)? Kenwood TH-D7 (out of production)3) Yaesu FT-530 (out of production)4)? Icom IC-Z1A (out of production)5)? Icom IC-W2A (out of production)6)? Icom IC-W32 (earlier model with 5-digit SN) (out of production)
> I have personally used the TH-D72, FT-530, and IC-Z1A on SO-50.
> Would recommend TH-D72, if you can budget allows.? Otherwise Yaesu FT-530.? I picked up a FT-530 at a hamfest last year for $25 and had to spend another $30 for a new battery.
> 73,
> 
> Robert Bankston, KE4AL
> Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 
> 
>     On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 10:59:17 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
>  
>  Hi Kees,
> 
> ? I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
> satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone app?
> ] tracking software) before her summer is over.? What did you decide on
> for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?
> 
> ? Thanks,
> 
> ? ? ? ? Ron VE8RT DP22
> 
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
> Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using only 2
> > Boafengs.? I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even AO-91
> > and 92.? I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> > downlink.? However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full duplex on
> > SO-50.? Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
> > 
> > 73 de KE0STO
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
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From ke6blr.robert at gmail.com  Sat Jul 27 20:46:17 2019
From: ke6blr.robert at gmail.com (KE6BLR Robert)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 13:46:17 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators
In-Reply-To: <096301d5449a$f02470b0$d06d5210$@amber.org.uk>
References: <096301d5449a$f02470b0$d06d5210$@amber.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CABaTVVYzgd2BOfo6fg_bz2j74rHTLQGYcFrHT6DuNLZ=GrNvMA@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps you can insert an Arduino in the serial bus path to regulate your
end stop. I know Amazon has RS232 to TTL adapters. Seems like a fun project.

73

Robert
KE6BLR

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 9:47 AM John via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> For various reasons, we use PSTRotator to control our rotator/elevator
> stack
> - mostly due to the need for IP control of the ERC-M, which SatPC32 doesn't
> seem to natively handle.
>
>
>
> It all works fine, for the most part, with the exception of the fact that I
> don't seem to be able to change my endstop value - normally this would be
> in
> the "Rotor" configuration settings, but since I'm leaving SatPC32 set to
> 'None' and having PSTRotator in 'Tracking' mode (it follows SatPC32's
> headings anyway), I can't see the option (it's not in the list) in order to
> pick South for my endstop instead of North.
>
>
>
> I can choose between 90 and 180 degree elevation (we use 180 as we only
> have
> 360 degrees of azimuth), but does anyone know how I can make SatPC32
> understand the endstop being at the North instead of the South?
>
>
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> John (M5ET)
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From aj9n at aol.com  Sat Jul 27 22:02:23 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:02:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-27 22:00
	UTC
References: <2058690376.1154860.1564264943788.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2058690376.1154860.1564264943788@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-27 22:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

?

24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia, telebridge via ON4ISS

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA

Contact was successful: Sat 2019-07-27 18:27:56 UTC 68 deg 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-27 22:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-27 22:00 UTC. (***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 120 

?

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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1325. (***)

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1268. (***)

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

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?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

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?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

Exp. 60 on orbit 

Luca Parmitano KF5KDP

Alexander Skvortsov

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

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73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors



From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jul 28 00:00:08 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 02:00:08 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-209 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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The news feed on http://amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio
in space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat dot org.

In this edition:

* CAS-7B Launched and Operational
* Upcoming ARISS SSTV Events
* AMSAT-Chile developing CESAR-1 FM / digital satellites
* FO-99 Transponder Activated over North America, Other Activations
 Scheduled
* LO-94 Lunar Impact Expected on July 31st
* Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for July 26, 2019
* How to Support AMSAT
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* Satellite Shorts from All Over

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       October 18-20 in Arlington, VA. For details, see:

            https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/

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CAS-7B Launched and Operational

On July 25, 2019, CAMSAT's CAS-7B satellite was successfully launched
on the first orbital launch of iSpace's Hyperbola-1 rocket.

CAS-7B is in a very low earth orbit with an apogee of 296 km and a
perigee of 278 km. The inclination is 42.7 degrees. At this altitude,
decay is expected by August 11th.

CAS-7B carries a 100 mW CW telemetry beacon at 435.715 MHz and an FM
transponder with an uplink of 145.900 MHz (16 kHz bandwidth, no tone
required) and a downlink of 435.690 MHz (100 mW).

Many QSOs around the world have been reported via the FM transponder.
Reports indicate the transponder requires a considerable amount of
EIRP to access and that the satellite is spinning fast causing rapid
fading of signals.

More information about CAS-7B can be found at
https://www.amsat.org/camsat-cas-7b-is-ready-for-june-launch/

[ANS thanks CAMSAT and JA0CAW for the above information.]

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Upcoming ARISS SSTV Events

ARISS Russia plans to activate the MAI-75 SSTV experiment on July 29
with images starting at 13:15 UTC ending at 21:25 UTC, then again
starting July 30 at 13:50 UTC ending 19:30 UTC. Downlink frequency is
145.800 MHz FM using the PD-120 SSTV mode.

ARISS plans to commemorate Owen Garriott's outstanding accomplishments
with ham radio in space during an ISS SSTV event starting 09:40 UTC on
August 1 and ending 18:15 UTC on Aug 4. Downlink freq will be 145.800
MHz FM using the PD-120 SSTV mode.

However, there is a possible switch out in images for SSTV event
scheduled for August 1-4. This may result in planning an additional
SSTV event for the end of August that would feature the Owen Garriott
commemorative images at that time. We expect an update on this after
July 26th

[ANS thanks ARISS for the above information.]

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AMSAT-Chile developing CESAR-1 FM / digital satellites

AMSAT-CE is designing and building five satellites, to be used by
radio amateurs around the world, which will allow a series of
scientific experiments in the field of digital communications, as well
as gravimetric and orbitgraphic studies.

Of these five satellites, one will be the engineering prototype, three
will be flight units, and the remaining one will be used to check or
replicate on the ground the operation of the units that are in space.

AMSAT-CE has also promoted the installation of three earth stations,
in Iquique, Temuco and Pto. Montt.

Technical characteristics

*CESAR-1 is of microsat technonogy (cube shape, 23 cm per edge).

*The satellite reception frequencies will be in the 145 MHz band
(5 channels) and 1,575 MHz (GPS).

*The satellite transmission frequencies will be in the 436 MHz band
(2 channels).

*The modulation will be FSK (AX.25 9.6 kbps) or narrowband FM.

*The magnetic stabilization will be by permanent magnets.

*It will have a magnetic brake (the rotation due to the photonic spin
will be stopped by seven bars of hydrogen steel, which will cut lines
of force from the earth's magnetic field).

*The estimated useful life is 10 years.

*The mass will be approximately 12 kg

*The period will be 100 minutes (that's about 14 revolutions a day).

*The satellite platform consists of 5 modules made of space aluminum
AL6061-T6.

*The electrical energy will be stored in a Saft NiCd battery, made up
of 8 batteries of 7 Ah each.

*The solar cells will be Spectrolab, triple junction (GalnP2-GaAs-Ge),
or the like.

Contributions of the CESAR-1 Project to the Country

AMSAT-CE satellites will be added to the projects already undertaken
by the Chilean Air Force (FASAT) and the University of Chile (SUCHAI),
but they have as their main characteristic that they are the first
ones that are being designed and built entirely in the country, which
constitutes a huge challenge, and a scientific and technological
contribution.

Among the benefits that the country and the amateur radio can obtain
from AMSAT-CE satellites are:

- Education (interest young people in space radiocommunications)
- Support in emergency situations
- Scientific experimentation (in the frame for experiments)
- Boosting a national aerospace industry
- Experimentation with the Internet
- National Amateur Radio Unit, and
- International recognition for the country.

Experiments

The CESAR-1 satellite will have five main (E) experiments:

E1 A digital transponder between two earth stations, to be used in
real time, during the period in which both are being illuminated by
the satellite (radio-packets in AX.25 at 9,600 kbps).

E2 A digital transponder between two earth stations, to be used in
deferred time, as an electronic message box (Store & forward with
radio-packets in AX.25 at 9.6 kbps).

E3 An analog repeater that will allow two earth stations that are
being illuminated by the satellite to be linked, to broadcast audio
(voice) in real time, in FM mode.

E4 Communication between two terrestrial repeaters, with link to the
satellite, which will allow long distance, but temporary, calls to
low-power portable stations (voice, FM, 147 MHz access), and

E5 An on-board GPS receiver, which will collect information for
gravimetric and orbitgraphic research.

The orbit of CESAR-1 will be low, polar and heliosynchronous
(about 800 km high).

*In any case, given the time elapsed, it is possible that both the
experiments and the electronic part considered for them must be
modernized.

Cost of the Project and its Financing

The cost of the project, in money, amounts to about USD 700,000
(necessary for the construction of five satellites, launch of one,
implementation of two command and control stations, and three
terrestrial repeaters).

Of that amount, around USD 300,000 have already been contributed by
external sponsors, and by members of the AMSAT-CE Foundation.

However, we have not yet been able to obtain the financing of the
remaining USD 400,000

Additionally, and conservatively, we estimate that the project
requires some 36,000 man-hours of managers and specialists.

Much of those 36,000 hours have already been or are being voluntarily
contributed by the AMSAT-CE partners.

Essentially, the monetary resources that are still missing are needed
to finance the solar cells of CESAR-1, hire professional services to
finish the construction of what is pending, and cover the costs of
the tests and the first launch.

Project status

Although it is a radio amateur project, it does not cease to
correspond to a professional and complex project.

But the more than 20 years we have been working - without reaching the
goal - have exhausted some of our partners, and this has generated a
shortage of volunteers.

It has not been easy to finish the first satellite - which should have
flown in the late 1990s - because in Chile there is still not enough
awareness about the possibilities offered by space activity to the
country.

Despite this, the construction of CESAR-1 is quite advanced (more
than 70%):

-5 mechanical satellite structures are built.
-8 UHF transmitters are finished, and aligned in their working
frequencies.
-The sources of power are finished.
-The receivers have an advance of 90%.
-The GPS experiment has an advance of 70%.
-In the OBC with its EDAC and RAM disk, the software needs to be
refined.
-The international coordination of frequencies in the ITU was
concluded, but today it would have to be reactivated, for the time
elapsed.
-There are, yes, the photovoltaic cells, the assembly in Chile and the
final tests (which will probably be done in Brazil).
-It is also necessary to reactivate the obtaining of the pitcher.

Website: https://www.amsat-ce.org/proyecto-cesar

[ANS thanks AMSAT-CE for the above information.]

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FO-99 Transponder Activated over North America, Other Activations
 Scheduled

On July 25, 2019, the V/u linear transponder on FO-99 (NEXUS) was
activated over North America for the first time. Stations heard
include W5CBF, KB4PML, N4QX, AA5PK, KX9X, N8HM, K0FFY, and N2ACQ.

FO-99 is active on a schedule. The power budget does not permit full-
time transponder operations. Schedule updates can be found on Twitter
at https://twitter.com/GsNihonuniv

Upcoming North American FO-99 operations:
Victoria, Canada - August 17th - 04:28:33 UTC - 04:40:01 UTC
Denver, US (SSTV) - August 24th - 03:30:20 UTC - 03:41:50 UTC
Topeka, US - August 31st - 02:34:47 UTC - 02:45:45 UTC

Operations are performed from about 5 minutes before the listed AOS
to 5 minutes after LOS.

Transponder frequencies are 145.900 MHz - 145.930 MHz up and 435.880
MHz - 435.910 MHz down, inverting.

The SSTV / digitalker downlink is 437.075 MHz.

The Nihon University Ground Station asks that stations completing
QSOs via FO-99 upload their audio to Twitter or the NEXUS website.
http://sat.aero.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp/nexus/E0_Top.html

[ANS thanks the Nihon University Ground Station and Paul Stoetzer,
N8HM, for the above information.]

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              of Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
           To help celebrate, we are sponsoring the
            AMSAT 50th Anniversary Awards Program.
                Full details are available at
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LO-94 Lunar Impact Expected on July 31st

Here is the LO-94 (DSLWP-B) UHF plan for the following days:


29 Jul 00:15 to 02:15
29 Jul 04:30 to 06:30
29 Jul 20:00 to 22:00
30 Jul 05:30 to 07:30
30 Jul 16:20 to 18:20
31 Jul 06:30 to 08:30
31 Jul 13:24 to 15.24
1 Aug 05:30 to 07:30

All time in UTC. GMSK on both freq & JT4G on 435.4. JT4G repeater
message on 436.4 TBD.


Lunar impact expected to be at about 31 Jul 14:20. Later windows for
backup.

SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html

Online JT4G telemetry forwarder:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html
GMSK telemetry:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html


[ANS thanks Wei Mingchaun, BG2BHC, Harbin Institute of Technology,
for the above information]

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Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for July 25, 2019

The following Amateur Radio satellites have decayed from orbit and
have been removed from this week's TLE distribution.

NJUST-1   - NORAD CAT ID 42722 - Decayed 07/20/2019 (per Space-Track)
AOXIANG-1 - NORAD CAT ID 42735 - Decayed 06/26/2019 (per Space-Track)

The following Amateur Radio satellite has been added to this week's
TLE distribution.

CAS-7B - TEMPORARY CAT ID 99999 (This CAT ID will be changed to a
permanent ID later.)
The initial TLE supplied by Alan Kung, BA1DU on July 25, 2019 on
AMSAT-BB.

[ANS thanks Ray Hoad, WA5QGD, AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager for the
above information.]

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From steve at wb8wsf.org  Sat Jul 27 23:46:14 2019
From: steve at wb8wsf.org (STeve Andre')
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 19:46:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
	<397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d72fc0a6-0f8e-40bf-9002-fc4ac47692f2@wb8wsf.org>


What about the kenwood th-d74?


On Jul 27, 2019, 12:16, at 12:16, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>Ron,
>There are only 6 SO-50 capable HT options that I am aware: (May be
>more, but these are commonly available)
>1)? Kenwood TH-D72 (still in production, so new or used markets)2)?
>Kenwood TH-D7 (out of production)3) Yaesu FT-530 (out of production)4)?
>Icom IC-Z1A (out of production)5)? Icom IC-W2A (out of production)6)?
>Icom IC-W32 (earlier model with 5-digit SN) (out of production)
>I have personally used the TH-D72, FT-530, and IC-Z1A on SO-50.
>Would recommend TH-D72, if you can budget allows.? Otherwise Yaesu
>FT-530.? I picked up a FT-530 at a hamfest last year for $25 and had to
>spend another $30 for a new battery.
>73,
>
>Robert Bankston, KE4AL
>Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 
>
>On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 10:59:17 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
> Hi Kees,
>
>? I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
>satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone
>app?
>] tracking software) before her summer is over.? What did you decide on
>for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?
>
>? Thanks,
>
>? ? ? ? Ron VE8RT DP22
>
>On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
>Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using
>only 2
>> Boafengs.? I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even
>AO-91
>> and 92.? I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
>> downlink.? However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full
>duplex on
>> SO-50.? Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
>> 
>> 73 de KE0STO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
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>
>
>-- 
>Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
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>program!
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>  
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
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From ke4al at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 28 00:44:46 2019
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 00:44:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <d72fc0a6-0f8e-40bf-9002-fc4ac47692f2@wb8wsf.org>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
	<397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
	<d72fc0a6-0f8e-40bf-9002-fc4ac47692f2@wb8wsf.org>
Message-ID: <1737758092.2389675.1564274686732@mail.yahoo.com>

Unfortunately, the Kenwood TH-D74 is not full duplex, so you will need to use a second radio to be able to hear your downlink.
73,
Robert Bankston, KE4AL
Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 

    On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 07:34:45 PM CDT, STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 
What about the kenwood th-d74?


On Jul 27, 2019, 12:16, at 12:16, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>Ron,
>There are only 6 SO-50 capable HT options that I am aware: (May be
>more, but these are commonly available)
>1)? Kenwood TH-D72 (still in production, so new or used markets)2)?
>Kenwood TH-D7 (out of production)3) Yaesu FT-530 (out of production)4)?
>Icom IC-Z1A (out of production)5)? Icom IC-W2A (out of production)6)?
>Icom IC-W32 (earlier model with 5-digit SN) (out of production)
>I have personally used the TH-D72, FT-530, and IC-Z1A on SO-50.
>Would recommend TH-D72, if you can budget allows.? Otherwise Yaesu
>FT-530.? I picked up a FT-530 at a hamfest last year for $25 and had to
>spend another $30 for a new battery.
>73,
>
>Robert Bankston, KE4AL
>Twitter:? @KE4ALabamaWebsite:? KE4AL.wordpress.com 
>
>On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 10:59:17 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:? 
> 
> Hi Kees,
>
>? I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
>satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone
>app?
>] tracking software) before her summer is over.? What did you decide on
>for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?
>
>? Thanks,
>
>? ? ? ? Ron VE8RT DP22
>
>On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
>Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using
>only 2
>> Boafengs.? I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even
>AO-91
>> and 92.? I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
>> downlink.? However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full
>duplex on
>> SO-50.? Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
>> 
>> 73 de KE0STO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
>> Subscription settings:
>https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>-- 
>Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
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>? 
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
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_______________________________________________
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From steve.motorola.uranium at gmail.com  Sun Jul 28 00:59:56 2019
From: steve.motorola.uranium at gmail.com (Stephen Nelson)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:59:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <1737758092.2389675.1564274686732@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
	<397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
	<d72fc0a6-0f8e-40bf-9002-fc4ac47692f2@wb8wsf.org>
	<1737758092.2389675.1564274686732@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALsCOXFR2JSix0mC8XVNtsqeGPw3OAR7mbUK1d61GXx7jf49Pw@mail.gmail.com>

Icom IC-92AD?

-Stephen N.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:46 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Unfortunately, the Kenwood TH-D74 is not full duplex, so you will need to
> use a second radio to be able to hear your downlink.
> 73,
> Robert Bankston, KE4AL
> Twitter:  @KE4ALabamaWebsite:  KE4AL.wordpress.com
>
>     On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 07:34:45 PM CDT, STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
> What about the kenwood th-d74?
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2019, 12:16, at 12:16, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >Ron,
> >There are only 6 SO-50 capable HT options that I am aware: (May be
> >more, but these are commonly available)
> >1)  Kenwood TH-D72 (still in production, so new or used markets)2)
> >Kenwood TH-D7 (out of production)3) Yaesu FT-530 (out of production)4)
> >Icom IC-Z1A (out of production)5)  Icom IC-W2A (out of production)6)
> >Icom IC-W32 (earlier model with 5-digit SN) (out of production)
> >I have personally used the TH-D72, FT-530, and IC-Z1A on SO-50.
> >Would recommend TH-D72, if you can budget allows.  Otherwise Yaesu
> >FT-530.  I picked up a FT-530 at a hamfest last year for $25 and had to
> >spend another $30 for a new battery.
> >73,
> >
> >Robert Bankston, KE4AL
> >Twitter:  @KE4ALabamaWebsite:  KE4AL.wordpress.com
> >
> >On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 10:59:17 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
> ><amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kees,
> >
> >  I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
> >satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone
> >app?
> >] tracking software) before her summer is over.  What did you decide on
> >for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >        Ron VE8RT DP22
> >
> >On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
> >Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using
> >only 2
> >> Boafengs.  I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even
> >AO-91
> >> and 92.  I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> >> downlink.  However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full
> >duplex on
> >> SO-50.  Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
> >>
> >> 73 de KE0STO
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
> >> Subscription settings:
> >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >
> >--
> >Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >of AMSAT-NA.
> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
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> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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-- 
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???????
??????????
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From va7kbm at outlook.com  Sun Jul 28 01:17:28 2019
From: va7kbm at outlook.com (Ken M)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 01:17:28 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and Android)?
Message-ID: <MWHPR01MB2640C5C726DA1530681966D398C20@MWHPR01MB2640.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello everyone,

I'm seeking suggestions for good APRS client software packages for 
Windows? There are a number of ancient packages out there but it would 
be nice to find one that's thoroughly modern and still being maintained.

I'm also looking for an APRS client for the Raspberry Pi and maybe 
Android down the road.

What's your favourite?

Thanks & 73, Ken VA7KBM


From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sun Jul 28 02:22:41 2019
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:22:41 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Handheld for SO-50
In-Reply-To: <CALsCOXFR2JSix0mC8XVNtsqeGPw3OAR7mbUK1d61GXx7jf49Pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4fePiJ-0zsu9xRKPSvrf5hn2RROc8dqN1q8hXRBLEwpb7sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20190727095200.c2f754e843a389c00ef2cf07@yknwt.ca>
	<397629811.3433270.1564244195009@mail.yahoo.com>
	<d72fc0a6-0f8e-40bf-9002-fc4ac47692f2@wb8wsf.org>
	<1737758092.2389675.1564274686732@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALsCOXFR2JSix0mC8XVNtsqeGPw3OAR7mbUK1d61GXx7jf49Pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20190727202241.d83b1d7cea760bd8bd229844@yknwt.ca>

I checked the website and brochure, it doesn't mention cross band repeat or duplex.

   Ron VE8RT

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:59:56 -0700
Stephen Nelson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Icom IC-92AD?
> 
> -Stephen N.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:46 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately, the Kenwood TH-D74 is not full duplex, so you will need to
> > use a second radio to be able to hear your downlink.
> > 73,
> > Robert Bankston, KE4AL
> > Twitter:  @KE4ALabamaWebsite:  KE4AL.wordpress.com
> >
> >     On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 07:34:45 PM CDT, STeve Andre' via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > What about the kenwood th-d74?
> >
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2019, 12:16, at 12:16, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >Ron,
> > >There are only 6 SO-50 capable HT options that I am aware: (May be
> > >more, but these are commonly available)
> > >1)  Kenwood TH-D72 (still in production, so new or used markets)2)
> > >Kenwood TH-D7 (out of production)3) Yaesu FT-530 (out of production)4)
> > >Icom IC-Z1A (out of production)5)  Icom IC-W2A (out of production)6)
> > >Icom IC-W32 (earlier model with 5-digit SN) (out of production)
> > >I have personally used the TH-D72, FT-530, and IC-Z1A on SO-50.
> > >Would recommend TH-D72, if you can budget allows.  Otherwise Yaesu
> > >FT-530.  I picked up a FT-530 at a hamfest last year for $25 and had to
> > >spend another $30 for a new battery.
> > >73,
> > >
> > >Robert Bankston, KE4AL
> > >Twitter:  @KE4ALabamaWebsite:  KE4AL.wordpress.com
> > >
> > >On Saturday, July 27, 2019, 10:59:17 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
> > ><amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kees,
> > >
> > >  I'm looking for a single HT to send to VY0Yl to get her on the FM
> > >satellites (single radio, basic antenna system, simple [smart phone
> > >app?
> > >] tracking software) before her summer is over.  What did you decide on
> > >for a radio, and / or do you have any recommendations?
> > >
> > >  Thanks,
> > >
> > >        Ron VE8RT DP22
> > >
> > >On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:06:31 -0500
> > >Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I've been working the birds for a while now, and I have been using
> > >only 2
> > >> Boafengs.  I've realized they desense VERY easily on SO-50 and even
> > >AO-91
> > >> and 92.  I have a band pass filter for the FOX sats, so I can hear my
> > >> downlink.  However, I still haven't figured out a way to get full
> > >duplex on
> > >> SO-50.  Are there any dual-band handhelds that can receive SO-50?
> > >>
> > >> 73 de KE0STO
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > >Opinions expressed
> > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > >of AMSAT-NA.
> > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > >program!
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> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > >_______________________________________________
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> > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > >of AMSAT-NA.
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> > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> 
> 
> -- 
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> ???????
> ??????????
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Sun Jul 28 05:51:18 2019
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:51:18 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and Android)?
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR01MB2640C5C726DA1530681966D398C20@MWHPR01MB2640.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <MWHPR01MB2640C5C726DA1530681966D398C20@MWHPR01MB2640.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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Hi Ken,

APRS client for windows is easily APRSIS32 by Lynn KJ4ERJ
(http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/ )  Very much current and actively
maintained.  It also includes satellite pass predictions via APRS
(keeping this satellite-relevant).

APRS client for Raspberry Pi:  My preference here is YAAC by Andrew
KA2DDO (https://www.ka2ddo.org/ka2ddo/YAAC.html).  If you don't need a
user interface (i.e. just for beacons, digipeating, and iGating),
Direwolf is a very good choice all by itself.  I run them together, with
Direwolf just handling the KISS TNC functions, and YAAC doing the
Graphical interface.

Android:  APRSdroid gets my vote, though there are others.

Greg  KO6TH


Ken M via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm seeking suggestions for good APRS client software packages for 
> Windows? There are a number of ancient packages out there but it would 
> be nice to find one that's thoroughly modern and still being maintained.
>
> I'm also looking for an APRS client for the Raspberry Pi and maybe 
> Android down the road.
>
> What's your favourite?
>
> Thanks & 73, Ken VA7KBM
>
> _______________________________________________
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From john at amber.org.uk  Sun Jul 28 07:13:05 2019
From: john at amber.org.uk (John)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 08:13:05 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators
In-Reply-To: <CABaTVVYzgd2BOfo6fg_bz2j74rHTLQGYcFrHT6DuNLZ=GrNvMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <096301d5449a$f02470b0$d06d5210$@amber.org.uk>
	<CABaTVVYzgd2BOfo6fg_bz2j74rHTLQGYcFrHT6DuNLZ=GrNvMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09c201d54513$e78adbf0$b6a093d0$@amber.org.uk>

Hi Robert,

 

It?s not an issue with the rotor not stopping (the ERC knows exactly where its limits are and obeys them perfectly).

 

The issue was that SatPC32 was assuming my endstop was South, and hence in the middle of almost every pass that went North of me, I had to wait for the rotor to do a full 360 swing.

 

The idea from Dave KB1PVH of setting the Yaesu rotor configuration just long enough to make that value configurable set me on the right path, and I?m pleased to say it?s now working nicely, and seems to be remembering that North is where my stop is, and using 180 degree elevation and the Southern side of the azimuth ring for Northern passes ? exactly what I needed.

 

Just a shame you have to trick SatPC32 into letting you see that setting before you can poke it!

 

Thanks for all the input folks, this one?s now solved (at least for the moment ? I haven?t tried closing and reopening SatPC32 yet!).

 

73,

John (M5ET)

 

From: KE6BLR Robert <ke6blr.robert at gmail.com> 
Sent: 27 July 2019 21:46
To: John <john at amber.org.uk>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, PSTRotator and 360 Degree Rotators

 

Perhaps you can insert an Arduino in the serial bus path to regulate your end stop. I know Amazon has RS232 to TTL adapters. Seems like a fun project.

 

73


Robert
KE6BLR

 

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 9:47 AM John via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org> > wrote:

Hi All,



For various reasons, we use PSTRotator to control our rotator/elevator stack
- mostly due to the need for IP control of the ERC-M, which SatPC32 doesn't
seem to natively handle.



It all works fine, for the most part, with the exception of the fact that I
don't seem to be able to change my endstop value - normally this would be in
the "Rotor" configuration settings, but since I'm leaving SatPC32 set to
'None' and having PSTRotator in 'Tracking' mode (it follows SatPC32's
headings anyway), I can't see the option (it's not in the list) in order to
pick South for my endstop instead of North.



I can choose between 90 and 180 degree elevation (we use 180 as we only have
360 degrees of azimuth), but does anyone know how I can make SatPC32
understand the endstop being at the North instead of the South?



Many thanks in advance,



John (M5ET)

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From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Sun Jul 28 11:47:58 2019
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 08:47:58 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 DTMF
Message-ID: <CAAy53m4K0hWf1X6ZN4PFoaTHdu3zAYy-BfS9hDx1X+PY3b2A8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
I saw 2 new call sign on the DTMF bulletin ;
*PSAT2-1*>APOFF,ARISS,qAR,EA8BQD::BLNc-DTMF:i|PY5LF0,PY5LF8,P5SAT
,WY5LF0,PU5NOC,PY5LAF,P, <https://www.aprsdirect.com/details/main/sid/885>,
Not sure if its correct , P5SAT (North Korea ? ?) and WY5LF.
I`ve made an short video explaining how to send the DTMF codes using simple
antenna (GP9);
https://youtu.be/0DQTbjiscP4
Hope it encourage you to try.
73

-- 
*PY5LF *
*Luciano Fabricio*
*www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Jul 28 13:50:43 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:50:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 DTMF
In-Reply-To: <CAAy53m4K0hWf1X6ZN4PFoaTHdu3zAYy-BfS9hDx1X+PY3b2A8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAy53m4K0hWf1X6ZN4PFoaTHdu3zAYy-BfS9hDx1X+PY3b2A8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLi4o+AKH7PN+wGRGy28Xu7eB_dcFYD3hB=1R8csrLK9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I am amazed!
I never expected DTMF to work at FAST speed like you tested with FT400 and
the other radio?
Is it reliable?  I always tested at slow speed.  Did not work fast for me.

And of course, radio has to be in narroband FM.

Fast might work if there are no double digits.  Double digits are the
hardest thing to detect in a DTMF string.

bob, WB4APR


On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 7:48 AM PY5LF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi
> I saw 2 new call sign on the DTMF bulletin ;
> *PSAT2-1*>APOFF,ARISS,qAR,EA8BQD::BLNc-DTMF:i|PY5LF0,PY5LF8,P5SAT
> ,WY5LF0,PU5NOC,PY5LAF,P, <https://www.aprsdirect.com/details/main/sid/885
> >,
> Not sure if its correct , P5SAT (North Korea ? ?) and WY5LF.
> I`ve made an short video explaining how to send the DTMF codes using simple
> antenna (GP9);
> https://youtu.be/0DQTbjiscP4
> Hope it encourage you to try.
> 73
>
> --
> *PY5LF *
> *Luciano Fabricio*
> *www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>

From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Sun Jul 28 15:31:33 2019
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (Ray Soifer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:31:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>

I am not a candidate?for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.? Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.? As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
AMSAT's basic problem is financial.? Universities and even high schools get NASA? up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.

I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.? I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
73 Ray W2RS

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Sun Jul 28 15:43:32 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 08:43:32 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA
In-Reply-To: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CACvjz2VXcQT+3hGTu7_9C5VP6+DvoXYispJX7cx5dxbsniLOng@mail.gmail.com>

I am an executive for a telecommunications company.

Landline telephony is a shrinking industry and is heavily regulated by the
FCC.

My company will be in the black for the next 10 years due to smart
management and hustle.

I offer those same skills to AMSAT-NA.

I didn't do badly in wireless and satellite telephony earlier in my career,
either. I retired as a senior engineer from Qualcomm Incorporated. That
taught me an enormous amount about cost controls, technical marketing, and
how to make money in fields that were assumed to already be saturated or
mature.

AMSAT can benefit from both cost cutting and revenue increases. There are
grants that have not been applied for and partnerships not pursued. I'm
unafraid to take on that job.

-Michelle W5NYV



On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 08:32 Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I am not a candidate for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I
> endorsing or opposing anyone.  Most of you know me; if not, please see my
> QRZ.com page.  As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President
> during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
> AMSAT's basic problem is financial.  Universities and even high schools
> get NASA  up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited
> resources are slowly drying up.
>
> I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.  I urge those
> who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Sun Jul 28 15:55:58 2019
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (Ray Soifer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:55:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2VXcQT+3hGTu7_9C5VP6+DvoXYispJX7cx5dxbsniLOng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CACvjz2VXcQT+3hGTu7_9C5VP6+DvoXYispJX7cx5dxbsniLOng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1868478491.7857417.1564329358213@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Michelle.? An impressive background.? I hope other candidates will do as you did.
73 Ray W2RS


-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
To: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1 at aol.com>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Sun, Jul 28, 2019 8:43 am
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA

I am an executive for a telecommunications company.?
Landline telephony is a shrinking industry and is heavily regulated by the FCC.?
My company will be in the black for the next 10 years due to smart management and hustle.?
I offer those same skills to AMSAT-NA.?
I didn't do badly in wireless and satellite telephony earlier in my career, either. I retired as a senior engineer from Qualcomm Incorporated. That taught me an enormous amount about cost controls, technical marketing, and how to make money in fields that were assumed to already be saturated or mature.?
AMSAT can benefit from both cost cutting and revenue increases. There are grants that have not been applied for and partnerships not pursued. I'm unafraid to take on that job.?
-Michelle W5NYV?


On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 08:32 Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

I am not a candidate?for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.? Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.? As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
AMSAT's basic problem is financial.? Universities and even high schools get NASA? up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.

I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.? I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
73 Ray W2RS
_______________________________________________
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jul 28 16:37:10 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 12:37:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA
In-Reply-To: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp-sik8Gxk5PbsgRMO-6NkJWPZcwMSumj33WwjVMM3mHw@mail.gmail.com>

Ray,

We agree. Our partnerships with universities and other organizations over
the past several years have opened up that door to us. With the work
pioneered by Tony Monteiro and continued by Jerry Buxton, we obtained
fully-funded launches for three of the Fox-1 satellites through NASA's
CubeSat Launch Inititative. Additionally, the first two GOLF satellites
have also been selected to participate in that program. Securing seven
fully-funded launches for our satellites is no small feat. Jerry's hard
work on these CubeSat Launch Initiative proposals and his commitment to
maintaining excellent relationships with NASA and our university partners
has placed us in an excellent position.

Led by Jerry, along with Drew Glasbrenner, we are also partnering with
several universities to place amateur radio transponders on CubeSats that
are under development.The first of these satellites carrying an AMSAT
developed and built transponder resulting from these partnerships,
HuskySat-1, built at the University of Washington, will launch this fall.
Work is well underway with several other entities to place at least a dozen
more of these systems on university-built CubeSats over the next several
years.

In late June, the Board elected Frank Karnauskas, N1UW, as the Vice
President - Development charged with seeking out further grants and
partnerships. He brings a lot of knowledge and energy to this position and
already has a team of two individuals to help him with the grant-writing
process. The incumbent directors are well aware that we need to find
partnerships and funding from outside the world of amateur radio and we
have been working to improve in these areas by finding individuals with the
right sklll sets to address them. I note, for the record, that AMSAT is
running a modest surplus through the first six months of the year despite
large expenditures for GOLF and ARISS hardware development.

In addition to finding additional sources of revenue, we also need to
modernize some of our office and membership processes. We are currently
working with an IT contractor to modernize our decades-old membership
database and enable us to provide modern, digital services to our
membership, such as digital distribution of The AMSAT Journal.

Addressing deficiencies that date back 20+ years takes time, but I believe
we are on a path that will enable us to Keep Amateur Radio in Space for
another 50 years and beyond.

As you are also aware, beyond the issue of partnerships and revenue, we
also need to continue our work on regulatory matters. The issue of ITAR and
EAR is, of course, a big one. Last fall, the Board authorized the retention
of a law firm to advise us on these matters and we are nearing completion
of a policy to address ITAR and EAR matters that will open the door to
again work with other AMSAT organizations and entities abroad. We are also
concerned about orbital debris mitigation and amateur satellite licensing
issues with the FCC. I authored AMSAT's comments and reply comments to the
FCC on both small satellite licensing and orbital debris mitigation
rulemaking proposals and have also been working with the ARRL's Washington
counsel (an AMSAT life member) on these issues.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice President
Member of the Board of Directors
AMSAT

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:31 AM Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I am not a candidate for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I
> endorsing or opposing anyone.  Most of you know me; if not, please see my
> QRZ.com page.  As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President
> during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
> AMSAT's basic problem is financial.  Universities and even high schools
> get NASA  up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited
> resources are slowly drying up.
>
> I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.  I urge those
> who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Sun Jul 28 16:46:23 2019
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (Ray Soifer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 16:46:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOp-sik8Gxk5PbsgRMO-6NkJWPZcwMSumj33WwjVMM3mHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABzOSOp-sik8Gxk5PbsgRMO-6NkJWPZcwMSumj33WwjVMM3mHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2086247439.7819189.1564332383624@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Paul,
Yes, we do agree.? Frank's appointment is good news.? I hope he is more successful than those of others appointed to similar positions in years past.??
73 Ray W2RS

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
To: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1 at aol.com>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Sun, Jul 28, 2019 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA

Ray,
We agree. Our partnerships with universities and other organizations over the past several years have opened up that door to us. With the work pioneered by Tony Monteiro and continued by Jerry Buxton, we obtained fully-funded launches for three of the Fox-1 satellites through NASA's CubeSat Launch Inititative. Additionally, the first two GOLF satellites have also been selected to participate in that program. Securing seven fully-funded launches for our satellites is no small feat. Jerry's hard work on these CubeSat Launch Initiative proposals and his commitment to maintaining excellent relationships with NASA and our university partners has placed us in an excellent position.
Led by Jerry, along with Drew Glasbrenner, we are also partnering with several universities to place amateur radio transponders on CubeSats that are under development.The first of these satellites carrying an AMSAT developed and built transponder resulting from these partnerships, HuskySat-1, built at the University of Washington, will launch this fall. Work is well underway with several other entities to place at least a dozen more of these systems on university-built CubeSats over the next several years.
In late June, the Board elected Frank Karnauskas, N1UW, as the Vice President - Development charged with seeking out further grants and partnerships. He brings a lot of knowledge and energy to this position and already has a team of two individuals to help him with the grant-writing process. The incumbent directors are well aware that we need to find partnerships and funding from outside the world of amateur radio and we have been working to improve in these areas by finding individuals with the right sklll sets to address them. I note, for the record, that AMSAT is running a modest surplus through the first six months of the year despite large expenditures for GOLF and ARISS hardware development.
In addition to finding additional sources of revenue, we also need to modernize some of our office and membership processes. We are currently working with an IT contractor to modernize our decades-old membership database and enable us to provide modern, digital services to our membership, such as digital distribution of The AMSAT Journal.?
Addressing deficiencies that date back 20+ years takes time, but I believe we are on a path that will enable us to Keep Amateur Radio in Space for another 50 years and beyond.
As you are also aware, beyond the issue of partnerships and revenue, we also need to continue our work on regulatory matters. The issue of ITAR and EAR is, of course, a big one. Last fall, the Board authorized the retention of a law firm to advise us on these matters and we are nearing completion of a policy to address ITAR and EAR matters that will open the door to again work with other AMSAT organizations and entities abroad. We are also concerned about orbital debris mitigation and amateur satellite licensing issues with the FCC. I authored AMSAT's comments and reply comments to the FCC on both small satellite licensing and orbital debris mitigation rulemaking proposals and have also been working with the ARRL's Washington counsel (an AMSAT life member) on these issues.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HMExecutive Vice PresidentMember of the Board of DirectorsAMSAT
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:31 AM Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

I am not a candidate?for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.? Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.? As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
AMSAT's basic problem is financial.? Universities and even high schools get NASA? up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.

I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.? I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
73 Ray W2RS
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From ka6sip at aol.com  Sun Jul 28 20:14:57 2019
From: ka6sip at aol.com (Tom Deeble - KA6SIP)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:14:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS IC-910H
References: <1571239202.991792.1564344897982.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1571239202.991792.1564344897982@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings,
I have an ICOM IC-910H in good condition with new 1.2 GHz module for sale.? Includes mic, carry handle, CT-17 Level Converter, manual etc in original box.? $1,200 + shipping/insurance.? Will pack in double box.? Let me know if you are interested via ka6sip at aol.com.? Prefer PayPal and would like to sell to someone via AMSAT instead of e-bay.
Thanks,Tom

Tom Deeble - KA6SIP,? ka6sip at aol.comMt. Diablo Amateur Radio Club Membership ChairmanMDARC, PO Box 23222, Pleasant Hill, CA? 94523-0222PACIFICON -? Oct 18-20, 2019, San Ramon

From n4hf.philip at gmail.com  Sun Jul 28 21:03:54 2019
From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 17:03:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker for sale
Message-ID: <CAGdEbNYb86LbpWDT0jKxWP1iudHEWXqZejHPs5RLPf7XA6Yjwg@mail.gmail.com>

Posting for a local guy who is not on the BB, so please contact him with
questions about the tracker, not me.



*?For Sale : LVB tracker in excellent condition asking $175. Buyer pays
shipping. Contact W4RYF at ARRL.NET" <W4RYF at ARRL.NET>*


Philip N4HF

From kj9idave at charter.net  Sun Jul 28 23:05:41 2019
From: kj9idave at charter.net (David J. Schmocker)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 18:05:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
In-Reply-To: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>

Everyone:
Solution/recommendation:
HEO ASAP (yes I am aware of GOLF) to make DX possible and bring in a new 
'market' (revenue) and interest level to AMSAT.

Perspective (from an active and avid ham who is still on the sidelines 
about satellites) is:

disclaimer first:?? (if this offends anyone, I apologize in advance; for 
we all have varying interests).. and diversity is good).

My new very capable all-mode satellite radio and two new antennas (a 
G3RUH Helix and a WiMo 2m RHCP) are still in the box.. why?

1) I am also building a large EME array that's all-consuming, and I have 
yet to find a suitable (mechanically balanced) satellite rotor solution 
(and lack the time to build my own).

2) Currently I see very little DX possible on satellites; therefore my 
interest level in satellites is poor to moderate at best.

3) My QTH has 60 foot trees and so putting something near ground here is 
not feasible to work the pass-ends needed for DX.

I realize HEO is expensive.. but having DX possible would bring in a 
whole new 'market.' (revenue)? DXers have money (consider the cost of 
current DXpeditions to places like Bouvet and view their operating 
budget and funding sources)

Again, I DO NOT mean to offend anyone with any other interests.. just 
stating my humble perspective.

OK.. if I did somehow offend anyone, I am sorry.. flames to me 
personally, not the list please..

very 73,

Dave KJ9I

P.S. I am not running for any AMSAT role.. merely stating my view that 
seems to be absent mostly from the traffic I've observed on the AMSAT-BB


On 7/28/19 10:31 AM, Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I am not a candidate?for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.? Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.? As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
> AMSAT's basic problem is financial.? Universities and even high schools get NASA? up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.
>
> I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.? I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From w2ev at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 28 23:46:20 2019
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 23:46:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
Message-ID: <298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>

What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type goals?
Ev, W2EV

    On Sunday, July 28, 2019, 7:08:14 PM EDT, David J. Schmocker via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Everyone:
Solution/recommendation:
HEO ASAP (yes I am aware of GOLF) to make DX possible and bring in a new 
'market' (revenue) and interest level to AMSAT.

Perspective (from an active and avid ham who is still on the sidelines 
about satellites) is:

disclaimer first:?? (if this offends anyone, I apologize in advance; for 
we all have varying interests).. and diversity is good).

My new very capable all-mode satellite radio and two new antennas (a 
G3RUH Helix and a WiMo 2m RHCP) are still in the box.. why?

1) I am also building a large EME array that's all-consuming, and I have 
yet to find a suitable (mechanically balanced) satellite rotor solution 
(and lack the time to build my own).

2) Currently I see very little DX possible on satellites; therefore my 
interest level in satellites is poor to moderate at best.

3) My QTH has 60 foot trees and so putting something near ground here is 
not feasible to work the pass-ends needed for DX.

I realize HEO is expensive.. but having DX possible would bring in a 
whole new 'market.' (revenue)? DXers have money (consider the cost of 
current DXpeditions to places like Bouvet and view their operating 
budget and funding sources)

Again, I DO NOT mean to offend anyone with any other interests.. just 
stating my humble perspective.

OK.. if I did somehow offend anyone, I am sorry.. flames to me 
personally, not the list please..

very 73,

Dave KJ9I

P.S. I am not running for any AMSAT role.. merely stating my view that 
seems to be absent mostly from the traffic I've observed on the AMSAT-BB


On 7/28/19 10:31 AM, Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I am not a candidate?for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.? Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.? As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
> AMSAT's basic problem is financial.? Universities and even high schools get NASA? up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.
>
> I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.? I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
  

From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 00:02:10 2019
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:02:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
	and revenue
In-Reply-To: <a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
Message-ID: <5d3e3782.1c69fb81.b5e96.6830@mx.google.com>

Hello Dave,

You raise a topic that comes up often. Sometimes the discussion does not get anywhere and sometimes exhaustive lists of ideas are compared and discussed. I'd like to refer you to the most exhaustive recent discussion regarding HEO/GEO which ran on the QRZ.com forums:

https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/yes-we-do-need-want-a-geo-sat-with-ham-transponders-over-the-americas.656562/

- or- use https://tinyurl.com/HEO-GEO-Satellite-Discussion for an abbreviated URL in case the e-mail system clobbers the long link.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From tasmac at w5pfg.us  Mon Jul 29 00:12:08 2019
From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:12:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
Message-ID: <811a5e3a-cccc-d655-fd8d-a6dc6fe6e795@w5pfg.us>

Hello Dave KJ9I,

"Everyone:
Solution/recommendation:
HEO ASAP (yes I am aware of GOLF) to make DX possible and bring in a new
'market' (revenue) and interest level to AMSAT."

It may come as a surprise to many that there are no objections anywhere 
within AMSAT leadership about pursuing HEO opportunities as soon as 
possible (ASAP.)

The emphasis on "possible" is where things get tricky. The current board 
members, with whom I have shared the pleasure of serving AMSAT, support 
and encourage technologies and launch opportunities to push us beyond LEO.

It takes resources across many disciplines to make things happen: 
engineering volunteers, project leadership, money, and economical launch 
opportunities, to name a few. There are many great ideas (HEO, MEO, 
Digital, 3U & 6U Cubesats) but ultimately decisions must be made to 
deliver AMSAT missions. Sometimes it involves risk. The long and short 
term track record of AMSAT is good, especially when you consider the 
periodic, multi-million dollar failures of the commercial world.

One more comment on the word "market:" Amateur radio satellites are not 
pay-to-play for obvious legal reasons. Like most amateur radio 
infrastructure, such as repeaters, costs are mostly borne by a generous 
few -- not the multitude of users. Ask anyone who operates an amateur 
radio resource, even websites like QRZ.com, and they will tell you that 
the masses do not contribute. I do not believe popularity of a satellite 
directly affects revenue. It has yet to be proven. Historically AMSAT 
has seen small increases in membership after missions but this does not 
come close to funding projects.

Bottom line - it is purely a myth that AMSAT doesn't pursue or endeavor 
to provide amateur transponders with greater coverage and DX 
opportunities. When and how we get there requires a combination of 
dedicated volunteers and generous benefactors.

73,
Clayton
W5PFG

From vk2fak at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 03:09:26 2019
From: vk2fak at gmail.com (John Mac)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:09:26 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Launch 2019-043
Message-ID: <CANiF7qPiiC-DDMUfJL9EyR3mC+1q7Bw1K4fBiomtD3xv=kAMwA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, I asked this question on twitter but no response at this time.
If there were more than 1 satellite on that Launch, I have not seen any TLE
for the other satellites yet.
Anyone have any info  ??   or have I missed something?

John

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 03:20:14 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 23:20:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Launch 2019-043
In-Reply-To: <CANiF7qPiiC-DDMUfJL9EyR3mC+1q7Bw1K4fBiomtD3xv=kAMwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANiF7qPiiC-DDMUfJL9EyR3mC+1q7Bw1K4fBiomtD3xv=kAMwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOb-LbDOcZUi=MZX3Xv6-4TdAY91kGt9fKmKzY_-M6YAvw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi John.

I found the following at
https://spaceflightnow.com/2019/07/25/chinese-private-company-reaches-orbit-for-first-time/

--------------------------------------------------------------

The satellites launched aboard the first Hyperbola 1 mission included the
CAS 7B CubeSat, an amateur radio mission developed by the Beijing Institute
of Technology. The Hyperbola 1 rocket also launched a satellite for
Aerospace Science and Technology Space Engineering Development Co. Ltd.,
but i-Space did not release a name or description of the satellite.

The launcher also carried three other payloads, which may have been
designed to remain attached to the Hyperbola 1?s upper stage. They included
a payload for Watermelon Maker, a Chinese online education platform, a
technology verification unit for China?s CCTV state-run television network,
and a third payload named Star Age 6, whose owner and purpose were not
disclosed.

According to i-Space, the Hyperbola 1 launch also delivered unspecified
payloads to orbit for two Chinese wine and automobile companies, which
sponsored the mission.

--------------------------------------------------------------

-Scott,  K4KDR

=================================

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:10 PM John Mac via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi all, I asked this question on twitter but no response at this time.
> If there were more than 1 satellite on that Launch, I have not seen any TLE
> for the other satellites yet.
> Anyone have any info  ??   or have I missed something?
>
> John
>

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Jul 29 05:30:11 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:30:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
	attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <81E936F9-8D92-483B-89F3-9137B0524D2B@pobox.com>

On July 28, 2019 6:46:20 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40
>type goals?
>Ev, W2EV
Your donation.

Give early, give often.
--- Zach
N0ZGO

From peter at magicbug.co.uk  Mon Jul 29 10:46:38 2019
From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:46:38 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
In-Reply-To: <a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAFvUaiqkLOq7tqp6QEtPONK9gxEKiny2WUV2MXHsMAAjr=C8ug@mail.gmail.com>

Dave,

Think the simple answer to get back to MEO/GEO/HEO has ultimately
money, free rides are hard, QO-100 happened thanks to Qatar footing
the bill, but you've had plenty responses to that.

Your comment about DX, There's still DX to be had on LEO, I know Chris
NK1K has been doing really well working DXCCs and probably isn't far
off 100, however I can say in my own experience there's still DX to be
had I moved QTH and more importantly DXCC 2 years ago from Oxford,
England to Elgin, Scotland (If you have bought Speyside whisky its on
my doorstep)

I'm sitting around 70 DXCCs worked and nearly 300+ squares you can
check my live grid map at
https://logbooks.2m0sql.com/2m0sql/index.php/gridsquares/satellites

Note thats all LEO, not QO-100 still finishing off my ground station.

See you on the birds!

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 00:06, David J. Schmocker via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Everyone:
> Solution/recommendation:
> HEO ASAP (yes I am aware of GOLF) to make DX possible and bring in a new
> 'market' (revenue) and interest level to AMSAT.
>
> Perspective (from an active and avid ham who is still on the sidelines
> about satellites) is:
>
> disclaimer first:   (if this offends anyone, I apologize in advance; for
> we all have varying interests).. and diversity is good).
>
> My new very capable all-mode satellite radio and two new antennas (a
> G3RUH Helix and a WiMo 2m RHCP) are still in the box.. why?
>
> 1) I am also building a large EME array that's all-consuming, and I have
> yet to find a suitable (mechanically balanced) satellite rotor solution
> (and lack the time to build my own).
>
> 2) Currently I see very little DX possible on satellites; therefore my
> interest level in satellites is poor to moderate at best.
>
> 3) My QTH has 60 foot trees and so putting something near ground here is
> not feasible to work the pass-ends needed for DX.
>
> I realize HEO is expensive.. but having DX possible would bring in a
> whole new 'market.' (revenue)  DXers have money (consider the cost of
> current DXpeditions to places like Bouvet and view their operating
> budget and funding sources)
>
> Again, I DO NOT mean to offend anyone with any other interests.. just
> stating my humble perspective.
>
> OK.. if I did somehow offend anyone, I am sorry.. flames to me
> personally, not the list please..
>
> very 73,
>
> Dave KJ9I
>
> P.S. I am not running for any AMSAT role.. merely stating my view that
> seems to be absent mostly from the traffic I've observed on the AMSAT-BB
>
>
> On 7/28/19 10:31 AM, Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > I am not a candidate for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.  Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.  As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
> > AMSAT's basic problem is financial.  Universities and even high schools get NASA  up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.
> >
> > I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.  I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
> > 73 Ray W2RS
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kj9idave at charter.net  Mon Jul 29 11:10:26 2019
From: kj9idave at charter.net (David J. Schmocker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 06:10:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <66b68649-edf4-e2f7-545b-7d23d5938ea0@charter.net>

Ev,

thank you; this is the right question.

Everyone, The next is how do we remove the barriers, or 'what drives 
AMSAT revenue?'??? Clayton suggested it's not interest 
level/buzz/excitement about a project as I would have predicted drives 
revenue.? Then if we know it's not 'buzz, '? is there data about what 
does drive AMSAT revenue?

very 73,

Dave KJ9I

On 7/28/19 6:46 PM, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type goals?
> Ev, W2EV
>
>      On Sunday, July 28, 2019, 7:08:14 PM EDT, David J. Schmocker via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>   
>   Everyone:
> Solution/recommendation:
> HEO ASAP (yes I am aware of GOLF) to make DX possible and bring in a new
> 'market' (revenue) and interest level to AMSAT.
>
> Perspective (from an active and avid ham who is still on the sidelines
> about satellites) is:
>
> disclaimer first:?? (if this offends anyone, I apologize in advance; for
> we all have varying interests).. and diversity is good).
>
> My new very capable all-mode satellite radio and two new antennas (a
> G3RUH Helix and a WiMo 2m RHCP) are still in the box.. why?
>
> 1) I am also building a large EME array that's all-consuming, and I have
> yet to find a suitable (mechanically balanced) satellite rotor solution
> (and lack the time to build my own).
>
> 2) Currently I see very little DX possible on satellites; therefore my
> interest level in satellites is poor to moderate at best.
>
> 3) My QTH has 60 foot trees and so putting something near ground here is
> not feasible to work the pass-ends needed for DX.
>
> I realize HEO is expensive.. but having DX possible would bring in a
> whole new 'market.' (revenue)? DXers have money (consider the cost of
> current DXpeditions to places like Bouvet and view their operating
> budget and funding sources)
>
> Again, I DO NOT mean to offend anyone with any other interests.. just
> stating my humble perspective.
>
> OK.. if I did somehow offend anyone, I am sorry.. flames to me
> personally, not the list please..
>
> very 73,
>
> Dave KJ9I
>
> P.S. I am not running for any AMSAT role.. merely stating my view that
> seems to be absent mostly from the traffic I've observed on the AMSAT-BB
>
>
> On 7/28/19 10:31 AM, Ray Soifer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> I am not a candidate?for the AMSAT BoD (been there, done that) nor am I endorsing or opposing anyone.? Most of you know me; if not, please see my QRZ.com page.? As the the then EVP, it was my fate to be Acting President during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.
>> AMSAT's basic problem is financial.? Universities and even high schools get NASA? up.money to build and launch Cubesats, while AMSAT's limited resources are slowly drying up.
>>
>> I don't have a solution, but I am not running for the BoD.? I urge those who are to put their solutions forward, not just their gripes.
>> 73 Ray W2RS
>> _______________________________________________
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From w2ev at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 29 11:12:13 2019
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:12:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO)
	to	attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <81E936F9-8D92-483B-89F3-9137B0524D2B@pobox.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
	<81E936F9-8D92-483B-89F3-9137B0524D2B@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <773840209.1445334.1564398733222@mail.yahoo.com>


>>What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type goals?

>Your donation.>Give early, give often.
What needs to be donated?? Technical expertise?? Parts?? Ground transportation?? Meeting rooms?? Negotiation skill? Political contacts?? Clean room time?? Payload space?
Everyone always thinks "money".? (As much) money isn't needed if "what money buys" is available for negotiation, barter, or "in the store house awaiting donation".

What are the top barriers?

Inquiringly yours,
Ev, W2EV

  

From n8fgv at usa.net  Mon Jul 29 14:08:28 2019
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:08:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
	and revenue
Message-ID: <783XgCoHC2064Set.1564409308@web03.cms.usa.net>

On July 28, 2019 6:46:20 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:
>What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
goals?
>Ev, W2EV

We would all love to have another HEO satellite, however the ecosystem in
which we live today has changed a great deal since AMSAT built AO-10, AO-13
and AO-40 a couple of decades ago:

1. The launch market has become saturated with small satellites. In the
1970's, 80's and 90's, AMSAT was often the only entity that was willing to put
a satellite on top of a new untested launch vehicle. Today every university on
the planet has its own satellite project, along with more and more high
schools and even a few elementary schools. AMSAT is working with some of these
universities to carry ham radio transponders on their satellites, but the
university satellite mission is different from our mission, they just want to
throw together something fast and cheap that can launch before the students
graduate, and they don't need to get to HEO to do that. Long term reliability
is not part of their equation. 

Commercial and Government entities have also discovered the value of small
satellites, and the launch market has reacted to that by charging market-based
prices for launches that AMSAT used to get for free or at highly discounted
rates. We have to compete against commercial enterprises funded by venture
capital, and because of the non-commercial nature of amateur radio, we can't
use the same business model of charging the end users to recover our costs.
NASA can and does launch small Cubesats for educational and scientific
purposes that fit into the NASA mission, but amateur radio communications by
itself does not advance the NASA mission. We need to find partners in the
educational and scientific world to get launches through this program.

Because Cubesats have dominated the satellite market, there are no more
affordable launches for satellites the size of AO-13, let alone AO-40. We are
now faced with the need to cram the functionality of an AO-13 satellite into a
3U (or possibly 6U) Cubesat. We may or we may not be able to do that, there is
a limit to the ability to cram 50 Kg of payload into a 5 Kg box. While Moore's
Law has enabled today's electronics technology to be smaller and lighter than
it was two decades ago, remember that satellites are driven by Shannon's Law,
not by Moore's Law. We need to generate electrical power and we need antenna
gain to carry out a satellite communications mission. AO-13 was a simple
spinning satellite that was big enough to accept the inefficiencies of
off-pointed solar arrays. On a Cubesat we would need to keep the smaller solar
arrays precisely aimed at the Sun and the antennas aimed at the Earth, and
this requires sophisticated three axis control systems.

2. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) that came into force
about 20 years ago have placed severe restrictions on our ability to work with
foreign partners. AO-40 was built by a partnership of more than a dozen
countries all contributing parts, subsystems and money to get it done. Today
we are cut off from the rest of the world. Building a wall around the USA has
never made us safe or prosperous.

3. Orbital debris regulations now require satellite builders to prove to the
FCC that the satellite will reenter in 25 years or less. In highly inclined
elliptical orbits such as AO-13 we can possibly exploit solar and lunar
resonances that will bring down the satellite in a decade or two, but in the
lower inclination GTO launches that are more common, we would be dependent on
rocket thrust to provide the delta-V to lower the perigee. If you look at the
NORAD catalog, most of the spent rocket bodies left in GTO remain there for a
long time unless they are deliberately de-orbited.

All of these factors have lined up to make the AMSAT mission much more
difficult than it was 20 years ago. Spaceflight is hard, and if we don't have
the fortitude to meet the new challenges, than we will not be part of it in
the future. I believe that we can and we will have new HEO satellites but we
won't be doing it under the rules that we operated under in the past. If
somebody wanted to write a check for $20 million, we could buy a HEO launch to
whatever orbit we wanted, but in the absence of such support we will have to
use cleverness and guile to get it done. I have constantly reminded the
satellite professionals that it was the hams who created the secondary launch
market that they now enjoy, but I have have so far not seen much interest from
them in reciprocating that favor.

73, Dan Schultz N8FGV


From zleffke at vt.edu  Mon Jul 29 14:31:17 2019
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:31:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
In-Reply-To: <783XgCoHC2064Set.1564409308@web03.cms.usa.net>
References: <783XgCoHC2064Set.1564409308@web03.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <d4ee3e9e-071c-f9ed-49e4-7c1457bc165d@vt.edu>

Good summary Dan.

I have nothing major to add, but would like to make two statements:

1)? through the VT/AMSAT partnership in the past we explored 
opportunities for both HEO and GEO missions.? The most 'real' of those 
opportunities involved a possible GEO mission on an Air Force satellite, 
with VT engineers bridging the military/ham radio sides.? HEO was a 
briefer opportunity, and sadly neither of the opportunities panned out 
(though technically GEO is 'on hold indefinitely'.....).? From my work 
with the Hume Center at VT and the Space at VT group, I will attempt to 
keep my eyes open for similar opportunities in the future, and if 
something appears to have 'meat on the bone' as a target of opportunity 
and potential rideshare/secondary payload, I'll bring it to AMSAT's 
attention. I would encourage others to do the same if they are in a 
similar position........it may be we don't pay for a HEO/GEO, but rather 
an odd confluence of events makes something materialize in our 
favor....and we should be ready, willing, and able to take advantage of 
those situations....

2)? I also constantly remind folks (from students to gov't officials 
when the opportunity presents itself) about Dan's last statement that 
Ham radio made the secondary launch market. OSCAR-1 launched 4 years and 
change after Sputnik-1, and I love watching eyes widen when folks 
realize what that means (especially the gov't types).


-Zach, KJ4QLP

P.S.? LOVE the positive direction of this thread...

-- 
Research Associate
Aerospace Systems Lab
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

On 7/29/19 10:08 AM, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On July 28, 2019 6:46:20 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
> goals?
>> Ev, W2EV
> We would all love to have another HEO satellite, however the ecosystem in
> which we live today has changed a great deal since AMSAT built AO-10, AO-13
> and AO-40 a couple of decades ago:
>
> 1. The launch market has become saturated with small satellites. In the
> 1970's, 80's and 90's, AMSAT was often the only entity that was willing to put
> a satellite on top of a new untested launch vehicle. Today every university on
> the planet has its own satellite project, along with more and more high
> schools and even a few elementary schools. AMSAT is working with some of these
> universities to carry ham radio transponders on their satellites, but the
> university satellite mission is different from our mission, they just want to
> throw together something fast and cheap that can launch before the students
> graduate, and they don't need to get to HEO to do that. Long term reliability
> is not part of their equation.
>
> Commercial and Government entities have also discovered the value of small
> satellites, and the launch market has reacted to that by charging market-based
> prices for launches that AMSAT used to get for free or at highly discounted
> rates. We have to compete against commercial enterprises funded by venture
> capital, and because of the non-commercial nature of amateur radio, we can't
> use the same business model of charging the end users to recover our costs.
> NASA can and does launch small Cubesats for educational and scientific
> purposes that fit into the NASA mission, but amateur radio communications by
> itself does not advance the NASA mission. We need to find partners in the
> educational and scientific world to get launches through this program.
>
> Because Cubesats have dominated the satellite market, there are no more
> affordable launches for satellites the size of AO-13, let alone AO-40. We are
> now faced with the need to cram the functionality of an AO-13 satellite into a
> 3U (or possibly 6U) Cubesat. We may or we may not be able to do that, there is
> a limit to the ability to cram 50 Kg of payload into a 5 Kg box. While Moore's
> Law has enabled today's electronics technology to be smaller and lighter than
> it was two decades ago, remember that satellites are driven by Shannon's Law,
> not by Moore's Law. We need to generate electrical power and we need antenna
> gain to carry out a satellite communications mission. AO-13 was a simple
> spinning satellite that was big enough to accept the inefficiencies of
> off-pointed solar arrays. On a Cubesat we would need to keep the smaller solar
> arrays precisely aimed at the Sun and the antennas aimed at the Earth, and
> this requires sophisticated three axis control systems.
>
> 2. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) that came into force
> about 20 years ago have placed severe restrictions on our ability to work with
> foreign partners. AO-40 was built by a partnership of more than a dozen
> countries all contributing parts, subsystems and money to get it done. Today
> we are cut off from the rest of the world. Building a wall around the USA has
> never made us safe or prosperous.
>
> 3. Orbital debris regulations now require satellite builders to prove to the
> FCC that the satellite will reenter in 25 years or less. In highly inclined
> elliptical orbits such as AO-13 we can possibly exploit solar and lunar
> resonances that will bring down the satellite in a decade or two, but in the
> lower inclination GTO launches that are more common, we would be dependent on
> rocket thrust to provide the delta-V to lower the perigee. If you look at the
> NORAD catalog, most of the spent rocket bodies left in GTO remain there for a
> long time unless they are deliberately de-orbited.
>
> All of these factors have lined up to make the AMSAT mission much more
> difficult than it was 20 years ago. Spaceflight is hard, and if we don't have
> the fortitude to meet the new challenges, than we will not be part of it in
> the future. I believe that we can and we will have new HEO satellites but we
> won't be doing it under the rules that we operated under in the past. If
> somebody wanted to write a check for $20 million, we could buy a HEO launch to
> whatever orbit we wanted, but in the absence of such support we will have to
> use cleverness and guile to get it done. I have constantly reminded the
> satellite professionals that it was the hams who created the secondary launch
> market that they now enjoy, but I have have so far not seen much interest from
> them in reciprocating that favor.
>
> 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From kc9sgv at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 15:08:58 2019
From: kc9sgv at gmail.com (KC9SGV)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:08:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more
	interest and revenue
References: <0F52598B-5353-4A8F-80F2-10CF46A2AA79@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12C87B16-E4AA-4EDC-B883-9AB416F910ED@gmail.com>



Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com>
> Date: July 29, 2019 at 10:00:55 AM CDT
> To: Zach Leffke <zleffke at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest and revenue
> 
> Excellent points and thoughts by Dan and Zach.
> 
> I might just add that yes, we have ITAR and EAR, but would asking a future South American commercial GEO communications or TV satellite effort to just lend us a standby transponder or two, be a violation of these laws ?
> (Existing power, budget, etc.)
> We could act naive and just ask.
> Sometimes, just asking, is all that is needed.
> Especially if STEM is pushed.
> 
> Bernard,
> KC9SGV
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Zach Leffke via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good summary Dan.
>> 
>> I have nothing major to add, but would like to make two statements:
>> 
>> 1)  through the VT/AMSAT partnership in the past we explored opportunities for both HEO and GEO missions.  The most 'real' of those opportunities involved a possible GEO mission on an Air Force satellite, with VT engineers bridging the military/ham radio sides.  HEO was a briefer opportunity, and sadly neither of the opportunities panned out (though technically GEO is 'on hold indefinitely'.....).  From my work with the Hume Center at VT and the Space at VT group, I will attempt to keep my eyes open for similar opportunities in the future, and if something appears to have 'meat on the bone' as a target of opportunity and potential rideshare/secondary payload, I'll bring it to AMSAT's attention. I would encourage others to do the same if they are in a similar position........it may be we don't pay for a HEO/GEO, but rather an odd confluence of events makes something materialize in our favor....and we should be ready, willing, and able to take advantage of those situations....
>> 
>> 2)  I also constantly remind folks (from students to gov't officials when the opportunity presents itself) about Dan's last statement that Ham radio made the secondary launch market. OSCAR-1 launched 4 years and change after Sputnik-1, and I love watching eyes widen when folks realize what that means (especially the gov't types).
>> 
>> 
>> -Zach, KJ4QLP
>> 
>> P.S.  LOVE the positive direction of this thread...
>> 
>> -- 
>> Research Associate
>> Aerospace Systems Lab
>> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
>> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
>> Work Phone: 540-231-4174
>> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
>> 
>>> On 7/29/19 10:08 AM, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> On July 28, 2019 6:46:20 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
>>> goals?
>>>> Ev, W2EV
>>> We would all love to have another HEO satellite, however the ecosystem in
>>> which we live today has changed a great deal since AMSAT built AO-10, AO-13
>>> and AO-40 a couple of decades ago:
>>> 
>>> 1. The launch market has become saturated with small satellites. In the
>>> 1970's, 80's and 90's, AMSAT was often the only entity that was willing to put
>>> a satellite on top of a new untested launch vehicle. Today every university on
>>> the planet has its own satellite project, along with more and more high
>>> schools and even a few elementary schools. AMSAT is working with some of these
>>> universities to carry ham radio transponders on their satellites, but the
>>> university satellite mission is different from our mission, they just want to
>>> throw together something fast and cheap that can launch before the students
>>> graduate, and they don't need to get to HEO to do that. Long term reliability
>>> is not part of their equation.
>>> 
>>> Commercial and Government entities have also discovered the value of small
>>> satellites, and the launch market has reacted to that by charging market-based
>>> prices for launches that AMSAT used to get for free or at highly discounted
>>> rates. We have to compete against commercial enterprises funded by venture
>>> capital, and because of the non-commercial nature of amateur radio, we can't
>>> use the same business model of charging the end users to recover our costs.
>>> NASA can and does launch small Cubesats for educational and scientific
>>> purposes that fit into the NASA mission, but amateur radio communications by
>>> itself does not advance the NASA mission. We need to find partners in the
>>> educational and scientific world to get launches through this program.
>>> 
>>> Because Cubesats have dominated the satellite market, there are no more
>>> affordable launches for satellites the size of AO-13, let alone AO-40. We are
>>> now faced with the need to cram the functionality of an AO-13 satellite into a
>>> 3U (or possibly 6U) Cubesat. We may or we may not be able to do that, there is
>>> a limit to the ability to cram 50 Kg of payload into a 5 Kg box. While Moore's
>>> Law has enabled today's electronics technology to be smaller and lighter than
>>> it was two decades ago, remember that satellites are driven by Shannon's Law,
>>> not by Moore's Law. We need to generate electrical power and we need antenna
>>> gain to carry out a satellite communications mission. AO-13 was a simple
>>> spinning satellite that was big enough to accept the inefficiencies of
>>> off-pointed solar arrays. On a Cubesat we would need to keep the smaller solar
>>> arrays precisely aimed at the Sun and the antennas aimed at the Earth, and
>>> this requires sophisticated three axis control systems.
>>> 
>>> 2. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) that came into force
>>> about 20 years ago have placed severe restrictions on our ability to work with
>>> foreign partners. AO-40 was built by a partnership of more than a dozen
>>> countries all contributing parts, subsystems and money to get it done. Today
>>> we are cut off from the rest of the world. Building a wall around the USA has
>>> never made us safe or prosperous.
>>> 
>>> 3. Orbital debris regulations now require satellite builders to prove to the
>>> FCC that the satellite will reenter in 25 years or less. In highly inclined
>>> elliptical orbits such as AO-13 we can possibly exploit solar and lunar
>>> resonances that will bring down the satellite in a decade or two, but in the
>>> lower inclination GTO launches that are more common, we would be dependent on
>>> rocket thrust to provide the delta-V to lower the perigee. If you look at the
>>> NORAD catalog, most of the spent rocket bodies left in GTO remain there for a
>>> long time unless they are deliberately de-orbited.
>>> 
>>> All of these factors have lined up to make the AMSAT mission much more
>>> difficult than it was 20 years ago. Spaceflight is hard, and if we don't have
>>> the fortitude to meet the new challenges, than we will not be part of it in
>>> the future. I believe that we can and we will have new HEO satellites but we
>>> won't be doing it under the rules that we operated under in the past. If
>>> somebody wanted to write a check for $20 million, we could buy a HEO launch to
>>> whatever orbit we wanted, but in the absence of such support we will have to
>>> use cleverness and guile to get it done. I have constantly reminded the
>>> satellite professionals that it was the hams who created the secondary launch
>>> market that they now enjoy, but I have have so far not seen much interest from
>>> them in reciprocating that favor.
>>> 
>>> 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From kc9sgv at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 15:11:44 2019
From: kc9sgv at gmail.com (KC9SGV)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:11:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
	and revenue
In-Reply-To: <12C87B16-E4AA-4EDC-B883-9AB416F910ED@gmail.com>
References: <0F52598B-5353-4A8F-80F2-10CF46A2AA79@gmail.com>
	<12C87B16-E4AA-4EDC-B883-9AB416F910ED@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00C6A550-6BFA-4F64-906D-2DEF8EBC2C04@gmail.com>

Students all over the Western World can do this...
Just not students in the USA and Canada.

https://amsat-uk.org/2019/07/21/high-school-students-in-brazil-building-qo-100-ground-station/

Bernard,
KC9SGV

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:08 AM, KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com>
>> Date: July 29, 2019 at 10:00:55 AM CDT
>> To: Zach Leffke <zleffke at vt.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest and revenue
>> 
>> Excellent points and thoughts by Dan and Zach.
>> 
>> I might just add that yes, we have ITAR and EAR, but would asking a future South American commercial GEO communications or TV satellite effort to just lend us a standby transponder or two, be a violation of these laws ?
>> (Existing power, budget, etc.)
>> We could act naive and just ask.
>> Sometimes, just asking, is all that is needed.
>> Especially if STEM is pushed.
>> 
>> Bernard,
>> KC9SGV
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Zach Leffke via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good summary Dan.
>>> 
>>> I have nothing major to add, but would like to make two statements:
>>> 
>>> 1)  through the VT/AMSAT partnership in the past we explored opportunities for both HEO and GEO missions.  The most 'real' of those opportunities involved a possible GEO mission on an Air Force satellite, with VT engineers bridging the military/ham radio sides.  HEO was a briefer opportunity, and sadly neither of the opportunities panned out (though technically GEO is 'on hold indefinitely'.....).  From my work with the Hume Center at VT and the Space at VT group, I will attempt to keep my eyes open for similar opportunities in the future, and if something appears to have 'meat on the bone' as a target of opportunity and potential rideshare/secondary payload, I'll bring it to AMSAT's attention. I would encourage others to do the same if they are in a similar position........it may be we don't pay for a HEO/GEO, but rather an odd confluence of events makes something materialize in our favor....and we should be ready, willing, and able to take advantage of those situations....
>>> 
>>> 2)  I also constantly remind folks (from students to gov't officials when the opportunity presents itself) about Dan's last statement that Ham radio made the secondary launch market. OSCAR-1 launched 4 years and change after Sputnik-1, and I love watching eyes widen when folks realize what that means (especially the gov't types).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Zach, KJ4QLP
>>> 
>>> P.S.  LOVE the positive direction of this thread...
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Research Associate
>>> Aerospace Systems Lab
>>> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
>>> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
>>> Work Phone: 540-231-4174
>>> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
>>> 
>>>> On 7/29/19 10:08 AM, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>> On July 28, 2019 6:46:20 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
>>>> goals?
>>>>> Ev, W2EV
>>>> We would all love to have another HEO satellite, however the ecosystem in
>>>> which we live today has changed a great deal since AMSAT built AO-10, AO-13
>>>> and AO-40 a couple of decades ago:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The launch market has become saturated with small satellites. In the
>>>> 1970's, 80's and 90's, AMSAT was often the only entity that was willing to put
>>>> a satellite on top of a new untested launch vehicle. Today every university on
>>>> the planet has its own satellite project, along with more and more high
>>>> schools and even a few elementary schools. AMSAT is working with some of these
>>>> universities to carry ham radio transponders on their satellites, but the
>>>> university satellite mission is different from our mission, they just want to
>>>> throw together something fast and cheap that can launch before the students
>>>> graduate, and they don't need to get to HEO to do that. Long term reliability
>>>> is not part of their equation.
>>>> 
>>>> Commercial and Government entities have also discovered the value of small
>>>> satellites, and the launch market has reacted to that by charging market-based
>>>> prices for launches that AMSAT used to get for free or at highly discounted
>>>> rates. We have to compete against commercial enterprises funded by venture
>>>> capital, and because of the non-commercial nature of amateur radio, we can't
>>>> use the same business model of charging the end users to recover our costs.
>>>> NASA can and does launch small Cubesats for educational and scientific
>>>> purposes that fit into the NASA mission, but amateur radio communications by
>>>> itself does not advance the NASA mission. We need to find partners in the
>>>> educational and scientific world to get launches through this program.
>>>> 
>>>> Because Cubesats have dominated the satellite market, there are no more
>>>> affordable launches for satellites the size of AO-13, let alone AO-40. We are
>>>> now faced with the need to cram the functionality of an AO-13 satellite into a
>>>> 3U (or possibly 6U) Cubesat. We may or we may not be able to do that, there is
>>>> a limit to the ability to cram 50 Kg of payload into a 5 Kg box. While Moore's
>>>> Law has enabled today's electronics technology to be smaller and lighter than
>>>> it was two decades ago, remember that satellites are driven by Shannon's Law,
>>>> not by Moore's Law. We need to generate electrical power and we need antenna
>>>> gain to carry out a satellite communications mission. AO-13 was a simple
>>>> spinning satellite that was big enough to accept the inefficiencies of
>>>> off-pointed solar arrays. On a Cubesat we would need to keep the smaller solar
>>>> arrays precisely aimed at the Sun and the antennas aimed at the Earth, and
>>>> this requires sophisticated three axis control systems.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) that came into force
>>>> about 20 years ago have placed severe restrictions on our ability to work with
>>>> foreign partners. AO-40 was built by a partnership of more than a dozen
>>>> countries all contributing parts, subsystems and money to get it done. Today
>>>> we are cut off from the rest of the world. Building a wall around the USA has
>>>> never made us safe or prosperous.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Orbital debris regulations now require satellite builders to prove to the
>>>> FCC that the satellite will reenter in 25 years or less. In highly inclined
>>>> elliptical orbits such as AO-13 we can possibly exploit solar and lunar
>>>> resonances that will bring down the satellite in a decade or two, but in the
>>>> lower inclination GTO launches that are more common, we would be dependent on
>>>> rocket thrust to provide the delta-V to lower the perigee. If you look at the
>>>> NORAD catalog, most of the spent rocket bodies left in GTO remain there for a
>>>> long time unless they are deliberately de-orbited.
>>>> 
>>>> All of these factors have lined up to make the AMSAT mission much more
>>>> difficult than it was 20 years ago. Spaceflight is hard, and if we don't have
>>>> the fortitude to meet the new challenges, than we will not be part of it in
>>>> the future. I believe that we can and we will have new HEO satellites but we
>>>> won't be doing it under the rules that we operated under in the past. If
>>>> somebody wanted to write a check for $20 million, we could buy a HEO launch to
>>>> whatever orbit we wanted, but in the absence of such support we will have to
>>>> use cleverness and guile to get it done. I have constantly reminded the
>>>> satellite professionals that it was the hams who created the secondary launch
>>>> market that they now enjoy, but I have have so far not seen much interest from
>>>> them in reciprocating that favor.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 15:14:43 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:14:43 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
In-Reply-To: <783XgCoHC2064Set.1564409308@web03.cms.usa.net>
References: <783XgCoHC2064Set.1564409308@web03.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <942E770D-7F3D-4A3B-B68A-632F195CE951@gmail.com>

Daniel,

One way around all the issues you mentioned is may be to "copy with pride" the QO-100 GEO which has changed Radio Amateur satellites operations this part of the world.

To explain;  we are now we are back to experimentation building PA?s, feeds etc? also enabling new modes which where not possible before (ATV in my case). For 3B8 this is fantastic as in spite active on LEO's since 1978, not much to do as we are in the middle of the ocean, only a few guys reachable on LEO good passes. Now we can QSO with half of the world on a bird, loud and clear 24/7 e.g. 

What I mean is that trying to partner with some commercial operators to have a HAM transponder on board of their satellite may be a solution, some may even sponsor if we are convincing enough. More it would be fantastic to have worldwide coverage with say 3 GEO?s, just a vision.

Some food for thought.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> On July 28, 2019 6:46:20 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
> goals?
>> Ev, W2EV
> 
> We would all love to have another HEO satellite, however the ecosystem in
> which we live today has changed a great deal since AMSAT built AO-10, AO-13
> and AO-40 a couple of decades ago:
> 
> 1. The launch market has become saturated with small satellites. In the
> 1970's, 80's and 90's, AMSAT was often the only entity that was willing to put
> a satellite on top of a new untested launch vehicle. Today every university on
> the planet has its own satellite project, along with more and more high
> schools and even a few elementary schools. AMSAT is working with some of these
> universities to carry ham radio transponders on their satellites, but the
> university satellite mission is different from our mission, they just want to
> throw together something fast and cheap that can launch before the students
> graduate, and they don't need to get to HEO to do that. Long term reliability
> is not part of their equation. 
> 
> Commercial and Government entities have also discovered the value of small
> satellites, and the launch market has reacted to that by charging market-based
> prices for launches that AMSAT used to get for free or at highly discounted
> rates. We have to compete against commercial enterprises funded by venture
> capital, and because of the non-commercial nature of amateur radio, we can't
> use the same business model of charging the end users to recover our costs.
> NASA can and does launch small Cubesats for educational and scientific
> purposes that fit into the NASA mission, but amateur radio communications by
> itself does not advance the NASA mission. We need to find partners in the
> educational and scientific world to get launches through this program.
> 
> Because Cubesats have dominated the satellite market, there are no more
> affordable launches for satellites the size of AO-13, let alone AO-40. We are
> now faced with the need to cram the functionality of an AO-13 satellite into a
> 3U (or possibly 6U) Cubesat. We may or we may not be able to do that, there is
> a limit to the ability to cram 50 Kg of payload into a 5 Kg box. While Moore's
> Law has enabled today's electronics technology to be smaller and lighter than
> it was two decades ago, remember that satellites are driven by Shannon's Law,
> not by Moore's Law. We need to generate electrical power and we need antenna
> gain to carry out a satellite communications mission. AO-13 was a simple
> spinning satellite that was big enough to accept the inefficiencies of
> off-pointed solar arrays. On a Cubesat we would need to keep the smaller solar
> arrays precisely aimed at the Sun and the antennas aimed at the Earth, and
> this requires sophisticated three axis control systems.
> 
> 2. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) that came into force
> about 20 years ago have placed severe restrictions on our ability to work with
> foreign partners. AO-40 was built by a partnership of more than a dozen
> countries all contributing parts, subsystems and money to get it done. Today
> we are cut off from the rest of the world. Building a wall around the USA has
> never made us safe or prosperous.
> 
> 3. Orbital debris regulations now require satellite builders to prove to the
> FCC that the satellite will reenter in 25 years or less. In highly inclined
> elliptical orbits such as AO-13 we can possibly exploit solar and lunar
> resonances that will bring down the satellite in a decade or two, but in the
> lower inclination GTO launches that are more common, we would be dependent on
> rocket thrust to provide the delta-V to lower the perigee. If you look at the
> NORAD catalog, most of the spent rocket bodies left in GTO remain there for a
> long time unless they are deliberately de-orbited.
> 
> All of these factors have lined up to make the AMSAT mission much more
> difficult than it was 20 years ago. Spaceflight is hard, and if we don't have
> the fortitude to meet the new challenges, than we will not be part of it in
> the future. I believe that we can and we will have new HEO satellites but we
> won't be doing it under the rules that we operated under in the past. If
> somebody wanted to write a check for $20 million, we could buy a HEO launch to
> whatever orbit we wanted, but in the absence of such support we will have to
> use cleverness and guile to get it done. I have constantly reminded the
> satellite professionals that it was the hams who created the secondary launch
> market that they now enjoy, but I have have so far not seen much interest from
> them in reciprocating that favor.
> 
> 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jul 29 15:18:16 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:18:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Commanding of transponder/camera boards
In-Reply-To: <b4a864c0-91df-7353-b813-960904199c66@feec.vutbr.cz>
References: <da33efffc77adbd3a84fb8f1515a3bc3@mail.gmail.com>
	<ba8b9a3c-45fb-1f94-6a6c-5fadc7b9336f@feec.vutbr.cz>
	<b4a864c0-91df-7353-b813-960904199c66@feec.vutbr.cz>
Message-ID: <baa5e02de072fad4392952394e2f42da@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT2 is looking for stations in the low latitudes (below 35 deg) for better
commanding.
With the 28 degree orbit, our best command stations rarely see PSAT2.
We need stations for PSAT2 VHF with a radio capable of 1 KHz steps or less
on FM.
We also need stations for the PSK31 and SSTV commanding.
These need UHF reception able to make  I/Q recordings.
And for SSTV commanding, a station with HF 29 MHz uplink is desired.

So far,  PY5LF in Brazil has been working very well.
Bob, Wb4APR

From royldean at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 15:25:15 2019
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:25:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
Message-ID: <CADGPg2s4Rr05Jc8Eu53qawi1f+ezB1Xhyh9aWemZRe9PswXGbg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> What needs to be donated?  Technical expertise?  Parts?  Ground
> transportation?  Meeting rooms?  Negotiation skill? Political contacts?
> Clean room time?  Payload space?
> Everyone always thinks "money".  (As much) money isn't needed if "what
> money buys" is available for negotiation, barter, or "in the store house
> awaiting donation". What are the top barriers? Inquiringly yours,
> Ev, W2EV


I think, in this case, the top barrier, by FAR, is MONEY.   The ride to
geostationary or HEO is the biggest barrier.   The way I see it, there are
two solutions:   Buy a ride, or mooch a ride.    So again, it's down to
money or some amazing negotiating skills.

Somebody more in tuned with this endeavor will correct me if I'm wrong (and
I often am).

--Roy
K3RLD

From kc9sgv at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 16:07:33 2019
From: kc9sgv at gmail.com (KC9SGV)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:07:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting VARA SAT digital experiments via QO-100
Message-ID: <6092CE19-6788-4F87-ACFC-E4E826BBE37C@gmail.com>

Hi All,
ISO0GRB has set up a Winlink server via QO-100.
The digital mode used, is the new VARA SAT of Jose, EH5HVK, with increased latency and wider frequency mismatch tolerance.
This slows the thruput a bit, but still gives very useful operating results.

See the discussion here:
https://forum.amsat-dl.org/index.php?thread/2829-is0grb-winlink-server-on-qo-100-dial-10489635-0-usb/&pageNo=3

Bernard,
KC9SGV

Sent from my iPad


From kc9sgv at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 16:15:02 2019
From: kc9sgv at gmail.com (KC9SGV)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:15:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting VARA SAT digital experiments via QO-100
In-Reply-To: <6092CE19-6788-4F87-ACFC-E4E826BBE37C@gmail.com>
References: <6092CE19-6788-4F87-ACFC-E4E826BBE37C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F4A2CB9E-847F-4939-8C5E-66A23043BCBB@gmail.com>

Also, see IS0GRB's QO-100 announcement on the Winlink home page.

https://winlink.org/content/is0grb_winlink_server_qo_100_geostationary_sat_26?est_dial_10489635_mhz_usb

Bernard,
KC9SGV

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:07 AM, KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> ISO0GRB has set up a Winlink server via QO-100.
> The digital mode used, is the new VARA SAT of Jose, EH5HVK, with increased latency and wider frequency mismatch tolerance.
> This slows the thruput a bit, but still gives very useful operating results.
> 
> See the discussion here:
> https://forum.amsat-dl.org/index.php?thread/2829-is0grb-winlink-server-on-qo-100-dial-10489635-0-usb/&pageNo=3
> 
> Bernard,
> KC9SGV
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 

From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 16:20:54 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:20:54 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2s4Rr05Jc8Eu53qawi1f+ezB1Xhyh9aWemZRe9PswXGbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2s4Rr05Jc8Eu53qawi1f+ezB1Xhyh9aWemZRe9PswXGbg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <262E75AA-E21B-4857-A9F7-1F8E473B307C@gmail.com>

Roy,

My humble comment about your relevant questions (I have no answer for these).

All always think money first and about other hurdles. What we need (the worldwide HAM community) is just a strong common vision, the rest (including money will follow).

E.g. Apollo moon landing success was made just by the vision of a strong leader (and surely the team behind him) who federate a nation (US) behind same.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)


> On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:25 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> What needs to be donated?  Technical expertise?  Parts?  Ground
>> transportation?  Meeting rooms?  Negotiation skill? Political contacts?
>> Clean room time?  Payload space?
>> Everyone always thinks "money".  (As much) money isn't needed if "what
>> money buys" is available for negotiation, barter, or "in the store house
>> awaiting donation". What are the top barriers? Inquiringly yours,
>> Ev, W2EV
> 
> 
> I think, in this case, the top barrier, by FAR, is MONEY.   The ride to
> geostationary or HEO is the biggest barrier.   The way I see it, there are
> two solutions:   Buy a ride, or mooch a ride.    So again, it's down to
> money or some amazing negotiating skills.
> 
> Somebody more in tuned with this endeavor will correct me if I'm wrong (and
> I often am).
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From n8fgv at usa.net  Mon Jul 29 16:14:08 2019
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:14:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
Message-ID: <659XgCqNi9888Set.1564416848@web13.cms.usa.net>

Jean Marc,

Yes, it is wonderful that hams in your hemisphere were offered this amazing
opportunity from Qatar. However, the economics of middle eastern royalty
differ somewhat from economics in our hemisphere, where corporate stockholder
value is the primary if not the only business consideration. We have had some
potential GEO opportunities with Intelsat and the US Air Force, but business
considerations eventually won out and the projects died. We will keep trying
to find one of these opportunities, but we must have a plan of action to
proceed on our own if a rich benefactor does not come forward. 

One of the factors that I did not mention in my previous missive is that we
are now in the era of "full cost accounting" in which it is much harder for a
project manager to bury the integration cost of an amateur satellite into his
general budget. 

73, Dan Schultz N8FGV

------ Original Message ------
Received: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:15:04 AM EDT
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple at gmail.com>
To: Daniel Schultz <n8fgv at usa.net>Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
and revenue

> Daniel,
> 
> One way around all the issues you mentioned is may be to "copy with pride"
the QO-100 GEO which has changed Radio Amateur satellites operations this part
of the world.
> 
> To explain;  we are now we are back to experimentation building PA?s,
feeds etc? also enabling new modes which where not possible before (ATV in
my case). For 3B8 this is fantastic as in spite active on LEO's since 1978,
not much to do as we are in the middle of the ocean, only a few guys reachable
on LEO good passes. Now we can QSO with half of the world on a bird, loud and
clear 24/7 e.g. 
> 
> What I mean is that trying to partner with some commercial operators to have
a HAM transponder on board of their satellite may be a solution, some may even
sponsor if we are convincing enough. More it would be fantastic to have
worldwide coverage with say 3 GEO?s, just a vision.
> 
> Some food for thought.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)


From les at highnoonfilm.com  Mon Jul 29 16:27:47 2019
From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:27:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO and EMCOMM
Message-ID: <1B2DABE7-BD7A-4822-86D2-6B3D2D7A2DC0@highnoonfilm.com>

One application for a geostationary satellite that should not be discounted would be emergency communications. During Hurricane Michael in the panhandle of Florida last year, amateur radio (HF) was critical despite scores of temporary cell towers being deployed into the area. 

We were on the ground, embedded with law enforcement for over a week in Panama City, and saw first-hand the communication difficulties. 

Problems with IP routing prevented many of these temporary cell sites from working properly, forcing amateur radio back into the forefront. 

Ditto Hurricane Maria, where the island location made communications difficult. 

Having a geostationary amateur satellite available 24/7 would greatly increase the ability of amateur radio to provide EMCOMM on a backup basis to served agencies when needed. 

This is a mission that would appeal to DoD, Congress, and many other stakeholders. AMSAT should discuss these possibilities with the ARRL and begin lobbying our contacts on the Hill to find a ride for this mission. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL 
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member





From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 17:28:38 2019
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:28:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO and EMCOMM
In-Reply-To: <1B2DABE7-BD7A-4822-86D2-6B3D2D7A2DC0@highnoonfilm.com>
References: <1B2DABE7-BD7A-4822-86D2-6B3D2D7A2DC0@highnoonfilm.com>
Message-ID: <CABsMmtQhRqGpw4OixvQ+51kNq-TTm6rXP37pJcXWonvt-zGQJw@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Everything being said is true.  And a ride is in the several million dollar
range.  Who is going to lead the fund raising effort?

John

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> One application for a geostationary satellite that should not be
> discounted would be emergency communications. During Hurricane Michael in
> the panhandle of Florida last year, amateur radio (HF) was critical despite
> scores of temporary cell towers being deployed into the area.
>
> We were on the ground, embedded with law enforcement for over a week in
> Panama City, and saw first-hand the communication difficulties.
>
> Problems with IP routing prevented many of these temporary cell sites from
> working properly, forcing amateur radio back into the forefront.
>
> Ditto Hurricane Maria, where the island location made communications
> difficult.
>
> Having a geostationary amateur satellite available 24/7 would greatly
> increase the ability of amateur radio to provide EMCOMM on a backup basis
> to served agencies when needed.
>
> This is a mission that would appeal to DoD, Congress, and many other
> stakeholders. AMSAT should discuss these possibilities with the ARRL and
> begin lobbying our contacts on the Hill to find a ride for this mission.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From w2ev at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 29 17:34:49 2019
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:34:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2s4Rr05Jc8Eu53qawi1f+ezB1Xhyh9aWemZRe9PswXGbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2s4Rr05Jc8Eu53qawi1f+ezB1Xhyh9aWemZRe9PswXGbg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1524008278.1272754.1564421689834@mail.yahoo.com>

 I use money to acquire things that I don't have the personal skill, tools, contacts, influence, energy, etc. to get any other way.? Let's shift gears...

Let's focus on what needs to be accomplished in order to get a "highly elliptical" satellite flying.
Ask ourselves, "Item-by-item, step-by-step, "What does it take to put one "up there" and managed?""
Then, ask ourselves, "What do we already have in place or available 'for the asking'?"
Once that is identified, we focus on the stuff that is left.
We *actively* and publicly solicit help to close that gap by transparently and openly telling everyone what is needed to be successful.
Then, the power of "the crowd" kicks in.? People will have/have-access-to/know someone and fill in many of the "holes".
Whatever remains becomes a targeted public funding campaign with a concrete cost and known outcome.

Hey...this approach worked for AO-40, if you'll remember.

Ev, W2EV

    On Monday, July 29, 2019, 11:49:18 AM EDT, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 >
> What needs to be donated?? Technical expertise?? Parts?? Ground
> transportation?? Meeting rooms?? Negotiation skill? Political contacts?
> Clean room time?? Payload space?
> Everyone always thinks "money".? (As much) money isn't needed if "what
> money buys" is available for negotiation, barter, or "in the store house
> awaiting donation". What are the top barriers? Inquiringly yours,
> Ev, W2EV


I think, in this case, the top barrier, by FAR, is MONEY.? The ride to
geostationary or HEO is the biggest barrier.? The way I see it, there are
two solutions:? Buy a ride, or mooch a ride.? ? So again, it's down to
money or some amazing negotiating skills.

Somebody more in tuned with this endeavor will correct me if I'm wrong (and
I often am).

--Roy
K3RLD
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 17:41:57 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:41:57 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO and EMCOMM
In-Reply-To: <1B2DABE7-BD7A-4822-86D2-6B3D2D7A2DC0@highnoonfilm.com>
References: <1B2DABE7-BD7A-4822-86D2-6B3D2D7A2DC0@highnoonfilm.com>
Message-ID: <F6CB6E84-4FF8-454E-BDE4-EFDFC6858F12@gmail.com>

Les,

Fully agree, and this is quite important for us here subject to Cyclones every year. In case of failure of all Telco networks HAM?s may provide some relief.

HF is not really as a reliable option these days, I am running a Winlink RMS on HF for the past 5 years for fellow yachtmen crossing the Indian Ocean and for emergency com , reliability is low,. Thus QO-100 is (24/7) is bridging the gap as far as Emcom for 3B8 is concern.

I fully agree with you that such argument may be sold to authorities, commercial operators and others to get more GEO transponders in the sky.

To my opinion it deserves trying and to be be tenace to succeed.

73



Jean Marc (3B8DU)


> On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> One application for a geostationary satellite that should not be discounted would be emergency communications. During Hurricane Michael in the panhandle of Florida last year, amateur radio (HF) was critical despite scores of temporary cell towers being deployed into the area. 
> 
> We were on the ground, embedded with law enforcement for over a week in Panama City, and saw first-hand the communication difficulties. 
> 
> Problems with IP routing prevented many of these temporary cell sites from working properly, forcing amateur radio back into the forefront. 
> 
> Ditto Hurricane Maria, where the island location made communications difficult. 
> 
> Having a geostationary amateur satellite available 24/7 would greatly increase the ability of amateur radio to provide EMCOMM on a backup basis to served agencies when needed. 
> 
> This is a mission that would appeal to DoD, Congress, and many other stakeholders. AMSAT should discuss these possibilities with the ARRL and begin lobbying our contacts on the Hill to find a ride for this mission. 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL 
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 18:02:07 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 22:02:07 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <1524008278.1272754.1564421689834@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CADGPg2s4Rr05Jc8Eu53qawi1f+ezB1Xhyh9aWemZRe9PswXGbg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1524008278.1272754.1564421689834@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <924D566A-C855-4F64-995D-7465E9FE00C8@gmail.com>

Ev,

Very interesting debate which will hopefully lead to some strategy for the future of satellite operations.

I fully agree with all your comments except for one thing, elliptical is a half solution, those who are enjoying QO-100 will surely agree. Let?s think big, GEO.

My one cent input.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I use money to acquire things that I don't have the personal skill, tools, contacts, influence, energy, etc. to get any other way.  Let's shift gears...
> 
> Let's focus on what needs to be accomplished in order to get a "highly elliptical" satellite flying.
> Ask ourselves, "Item-by-item, step-by-step, "What does it take to put one "up there" and managed?""
> Then, ask ourselves, "What do we already have in place or available 'for the asking'?"
> Once that is identified, we focus on the stuff that is left.
> We *actively* and publicly solicit help to close that gap by transparently and openly telling everyone what is needed to be successful.
> Then, the power of "the crowd" kicks in.  People will have/have-access-to/know someone and fill in many of the "holes".
> Whatever remains becomes a targeted public funding campaign with a concrete cost and known outcome.
> 
> Hey...this approach worked for AO-40, if you'll remember.
> 
> Ev, W2EV
> 
>    On Monday, July 29, 2019, 11:49:18 AM EDT, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
>> 
>> What needs to be donated?  Technical expertise?  Parts?  Ground
>> transportation?  Meeting rooms?  Negotiation skill? Political contacts?
>> Clean room time?  Payload space?
>> Everyone always thinks "money".  (As much) money isn't needed if "what
>> money buys" is available for negotiation, barter, or "in the store house
>> awaiting donation". What are the top barriers? Inquiringly yours,
>> Ev, W2EV
> 
> 
> I think, in this case, the top barrier, by FAR, is MONEY.  The ride to
> geostationary or HEO is the biggest barrier.  The way I see it, there are
> two solutions:  Buy a ride, or mooch a ride.    So again, it's down to
> money or some amazing negotiating skills.
> 
> Somebody more in tuned with this endeavor will correct me if I'm wrong (and
> I often am).
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
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From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 19:15:08 2019
From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger - W7TZ)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:15:08 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio chest pack
Message-ID: <CAEahN0LYJH1qCP+3RVoXJU49qM7RBcnVBv4j+ezUETGVFsyMPg@mail.gmail.com>

Recently someone asked about radio packs. I just discovered these on Amazon
reg $23 on sale for $18.69 and free shipping with Prime.
Tactical Chest Rig, Heavy Duty Radio Chest Harness

73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
Grid Busters
w7tz.webs.com

From tnetcenter at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 20:54:51 2019
From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:54:51 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio chest pack
In-Reply-To: <CAEahN0LYJH1qCP+3RVoXJU49qM7RBcnVBv4j+ezUETGVFsyMPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEahN0LYJH1qCP+3RVoXJU49qM7RBcnVBv4j+ezUETGVFsyMPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALx_moQW6WXYP72K0upJrF-K--jta1V-LcEDVscs9WaE8=ZiXQ@mail.gmail.com>

So which one did you pick????   Over 3 dozen entries show up when you
search Amazon.  You didn't provide a link so we are left guessing which one
you like.

Jeff Moore   --   KE7ACY

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:16 PM Roger - W7TZ via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Recently someone asked about radio packs. I just discovered these on Amazon
> reg $23 on sale for $18.69 and free shipping with Prime.
> Tactical Chest Rig, Heavy Duty Radio Chest Harness
>
> 73, Roger
> W7TZ
> CN83ia
> Grid Busters
> w7tz.webs.com
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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From bthrelkeld at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 20:56:31 2019
From: bthrelkeld at gmail.com (Brian L. Threlkeld)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:56:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio chest pack
In-Reply-To: <CALx_moQW6WXYP72K0upJrF-K--jta1V-LcEDVscs9WaE8=ZiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEahN0LYJH1qCP+3RVoXJU49qM7RBcnVBv4j+ezUETGVFsyMPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moQW6WXYP72K0upJrF-K--jta1V-LcEDVscs9WaE8=ZiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHbn9oCB2Lc4Qo_3pQbFQiiX+CDM7TWLxQrj4rNhUX46x1uBXw@mail.gmail.com>

And what radios are you carrying with it .. 2 FT-818s fit?

 73 DE KQ4MM

Brian


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:54 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> So which one did you pick????   Over 3 dozen entries show up when you
> search Amazon.  You didn't provide a link so we are left guessing which one
> you like.
>
> Jeff Moore   --   KE7ACY
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:16 PM Roger - W7TZ via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Recently someone asked about radio packs. I just discovered these on
> Amazon
> > reg $23 on sale for $18.69 and free shipping with Prime.
> > Tactical Chest Rig, Heavy Duty Radio Chest Harness
> >
> > 73, Roger
> > W7TZ
> > CN83ia
> > Grid Busters
> > w7tz.webs.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 20:59:09 2019
From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger - W7TZ)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:59:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio chest pack
In-Reply-To: <CALx_moQW6WXYP72K0upJrF-K--jta1V-LcEDVscs9WaE8=ZiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEahN0LYJH1qCP+3RVoXJU49qM7RBcnVBv4j+ezUETGVFsyMPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALx_moQW6WXYP72K0upJrF-K--jta1V-LcEDVscs9WaE8=ZiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEahN0+oDjamwD1+x-TizXe47MXcRzUZoaUQVrY6og-2scyO4A@mail.gmail.com>

Holy cow, I had no idea. I don't need one myself. I came across one in the
Daily Deal and thought I'd share the info. My apologies.

73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
Grid Busters
w7tz.webs.com


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 1:54 PM Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> So which one did you pick????   Over 3 dozen entries show up when you
> search Amazon.  You didn't provide a link so we are left guessing which one
> you like.
>
> Jeff Moore   --   KE7ACY
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:16 PM Roger - W7TZ via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Recently someone asked about radio packs. I just discovered these on
> Amazon
> > reg $23 on sale for $18.69 and free shipping with Prime.
> > Tactical Chest Rig, Heavy Duty Radio Chest Harness
> >
> > 73, Roger
> > W7TZ
> > CN83ia
> > Grid Busters
> > w7tz.webs.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 21:05:52 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:05:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Correction: Chandrayaan-2 not using "Earth Gravity
	Assist"
Message-ID: <CAJCSnObgzsj2ihuiahh-KpmhDYgon23tPLRJ3ENFq4O+oZO7Yg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

One of the things I enjoy most about the hobby is learning new things.  If
that comes at the expense of correcting something I said or did
incorrectly, that's fine.

I recently posted on Twitter about how fortunate I had been to be in the
right place at the right time to record an entire 2-hour fly-by of the
ISRO Chandrayaan-2 spacecraft which is working towards a moon landing in a
few weeks.

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1155528793831944193

... in that post, I referred to the situation as an Earth
"gravity-assist".  That was not the correct term for the flight
of Chandrayaan-2 and if you'd like to hear what the difference is, please
read on.

Edgar, DF2MZ, was kind enough to fill me in on the distinction.  To
accomplish a gravity-assist, an object (Chandrayaan-2 in this example)
needs to fly by another object (Earth in this case) in a path ideally
described as "hyperbolic".   Put simply, it's a one-time fly-by as opposed
to a recurring orbit.  You can read about the theory of this type of
alignment here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist

This is not the case with Chandrayaan-2, which is why the ISRO is using a
schedule of rocket firings to boost its orbit farther and farther from
Earth.  When an object like Chandrayaan-2 is in a recurring orbit (often
described as "elliptical"), it's more-or-less going to stay there unless
outside forces change that.  I guess the most common forces would be
gravity or rocket firings.

For an amazing, mathematically correct animation of Chandrayaan-2's journey
(complete w/ on-schedule rocket firings), check out:

http://sankara.net/chandrayaan2.html

(the last "big loop" that eventually makes the lunar capture possible will
blow your mind)

So that's the difference between the two circumstances and I wanted to set
the record straight.  I greatly enjoyed being able to record the
spacecraft's S-Band downlink throughout the entire pass but didn't want to
leave an incorrect description of the pass hanging out there.  In the end
it was a nice bonus to learn something new about the nature of orbits since
they play such a major role in our hobby.

Thanks,

-Scott,  K4KDR

From kc9sgv at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 23:18:52 2019
From: kc9sgv at gmail.com (KC9SGV)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:18:52 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] GEO Satellite transponders for rent ?
Message-ID: <9F6175BA-1218-4ADF-AD4B-31B381C03D04@gmail.com>

So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?
Maybe this could be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?
See this interesting announcement by AT&T...

https://qz.com/1480089/att-just-declared-the-end-of-the-satellite-tv-era-in-the-us/

KC9SGV


Sent from my iPad

From n8fgv at usa.net  Tue Jul 30 00:42:05 2019
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:42:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
Message-ID: <577XgdapF2160Set.1564447325@web02.cms.usa.net>

Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> What needs to be donated?  Technical expertise?  Parts?  Ground
transportation?  
>> Meeting rooms?  Negotiation skill? Political contacts? Clean room time? 
Payload space?

The main thing that we need is a launch vehicle. Once we find a ride to orbit,
everything else will follow...
------

Les Rayburn wrote:
>One application for a geostationary satellite that should not be discounted
would be emergency communications. 

AMSAT has pitched the emergency communications angle to FEMA and other
agencies, so far none have bitten on it.
------

Jean Marc (3B8DU) wrote:
>E.g. Apollo moon landing success was made just by the vision of a strong
leader
>(and surely the team behind him) who federate a nation (US) behind same.

The fear that the USSR would get to the Moon first was a powerful motivation
for Apollo, one that convinced the US Congress to commit up to 4% of the
national budget. I'm afraid that AMSAT does not have the capability to inspire
that level of fear.

73, Dan Schultz N8FGV




From aj9n at aol.com  Tue Jul 30 03:21:29 2019
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 03:21:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-30 03:00
	UTC
References: <1564294091.1440793.1564456889096.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1564294091.1440793.1564456889096@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-30 03:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

?

Kyoto Tachibana Junior & Senior High School, Kyoto, Japan, direct via 8N3KT 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 

The scheduled astronaut is Nick Hague KG5TMV (***) 

Contact is go for: Thu 2019-08-08 10:36:37 UTC 56 deg (***)

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-30 03:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-27 22:00 UTC. 

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 120 

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1325. 

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1268. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

Exp. 60 on orbit 

Luca Parmitano KF5KDP

Alexander Skvortsov

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

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73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Tue Jul 30 03:25:28 2019
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 00:25:28 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
Message-ID: <CAAy53m642LEp_8-9zqm=HgYM5jThS2ohMq0qBBRhWaK-1E=v7A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
CAS-7B looks like a little insensitive . Best return I got using 80W on
uplink .
Object 2019-043A are working perfectly for me .
73

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From ki7unj at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 03:48:08 2019
From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:48:08 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Deschutes County Fair Demos - W7D
Message-ID: <CAPFr_UkOdGRnu-bkytuNWXspz8KRJu9cwYShjLTuV2W5MFzA=Q@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I will be doing FM Demos at the Deschutes County Fair (Oregon CN94) at the
High Desert Amateur Radio Group booth this coming Thur/Fri/Sat.   I will be
doing the demos as call sign W7D. The call is for the special event of the
"100th Deschutes County Fair"

Come say Hi!



THURSDAY AUGUST 1st
UTC
AO-91 2041
PO-101 2140

FRIDAY AUGUST 2nd
UTC
AO-91 1925
PO-101 2149
AO-85 2234

SATURDAY AUGUST 3rd
UTC
AO-92 1811
AO-91 1946
PO-101 2023
AO-85 2118


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From w2ev at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 30 10:56:17 2019
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:56:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more
	interest	and revenue
In-Reply-To: <5d3e3782.1c69fb81.b5e96.6830@mx.google.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<5d3e3782.1c69fb81.b5e96.6830@mx.google.com>
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 VERY informative link, JoAnne.? Thank you for posting it (especially for those of us who just recently re-joined the list after many years of pursuing other radio-interests).
Ev, W2EV

    On Sunday, July 28, 2019, 8:03:31 PM EDT, JoAnne K9JKM via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Hello Dave,

You raise a topic that comes up often. Sometimes the discussion does not get anywhere and sometimes exhaustive lists of ideas are compared and discussed. I'd like to refer you to the most exhaustive recent discussion regarding HEO/GEO which ran on the QRZ.com forums:

https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/yes-we-do-need-want-a-geo-sat-with-ham-transponders-over-the-americas.656562/

- or- use https://tinyurl.com/HEO-GEO-Satellite-Discussion for an abbreviated URL in case the e-mail system clobbers the long link.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



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From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 11:27:52 2019
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 07:27:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
In-Reply-To: <CAAy53m642LEp_8-9zqm=HgYM5jThS2ohMq0qBBRhWaK-1E=v7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAy53m642LEp_8-9zqm=HgYM5jThS2ohMq0qBBRhWaK-1E=v7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8O-fsbH9VXkeX_ai6-_4csjBGQ2YgL+_1yQ4FVyjhh3+w@mail.gmail.com>

Is this typical for this bird?

Planning on attempting to make a contact but I do not have a setup that can
output that much power.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 23:27 PY5LF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi
> CAS-7B looks like a little insensitive . Best return I got using 80W on
> uplink .
> Object 2019-043A are working perfectly for me .
> 73
>
> --
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From n3cal at md.metrocast.net  Tue Jul 30 12:23:34 2019
From: n3cal at md.metrocast.net (Cal Spreitzer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:23:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8O-fsbH9VXkeX_ai6-_4csjBGQ2YgL+_1yQ4FVyjhh3+w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAAJiE8O-fsbH9VXkeX_ai6-_4csjBGQ2YgL+_1yQ4FVyjhh3+w@mail.gmail.com>
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I attempted to make a contact this past Saturday (27 July 12:33 UTC) from FM-18 (Maryland).   It was a good pass over the US East Coast. There was extensive fading (in/out) making it very difficult to copy myself or any other stations.  I did hear one other station in there, Perry, WB8OTH but again broken to the point it was almost unreadable.  I tried changing power out between 1-25 watts but no noticeable change.  Not sure if this is from tumbling or something else?  

Cal/N3CAL

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:28 AM
To: PY5LF
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B

Is this typical for this bird?

Planning on attempting to make a contact but I do not have a setup that can
output that much power.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 23:27 PY5LF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi
> CAS-7B looks like a little insensitive . Best return I got using 80W on
> uplink .
> Object 2019-043A are working perfectly for me .
> 73
>
> --
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> *Luciano Fabricio*
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>
>
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From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Tue Jul 30 13:56:23 2019
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:56:23 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
In-Reply-To: <000c01d546d1$9bee1bc0$d3ca5340$@md.metrocast.net>
References: <CAAy53m642LEp_8-9zqm=HgYM5jThS2ohMq0qBBRhWaK-1E=v7A@mail.gmail.com>
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	<000c01d546d1$9bee1bc0$d3ca5340$@md.metrocast.net>
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Hi Cal
I had success in only one QSO until now .
Take a look on this short video ;
https://youtu.be/6PY7DDb8Z-M
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Em ter, 30 de jul de 2019 ?s 09:25, Cal Spreitzer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> escreveu:

> I attempted to make a contact this past Saturday (27 July 12:33 UTC) from
> FM-18 (Maryland).   It was a good pass over the US East Coast. There was
> extensive fading (in/out) making it very difficult to copy myself or any
> other stations.  I did hear one other station in there, Perry, WB8OTH but
> again broken to the point it was almost unreadable.  I tried changing power
> out between 1-25 watts but no noticeable change.  Not sure if this is from
> tumbling or something else?
>
> Cal/N3CAL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Don
> KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:28 AM
> To: PY5LF
> Cc: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B
>
> Is this typical for this bird?
>
> Planning on attempting to make a contact but I do not have a setup that can
> output that much power.
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 23:27 PY5LF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > CAS-7B looks like a little insensitive . Best return I got using 80W on
> > uplink .
> > Object 2019-043A are working perfectly for me .
> > 73
> >
> > --
> > *PY5LF *
> > *Luciano Fabricio*
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> >
> >
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From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 14:44:16 2019
From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:44:16 +0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
In-Reply-To: <1895997814.1882695.1564484177528@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<5d3e3782.1c69fb81.b5e96.6830@mx.google.com>
	<1895997814.1882695.1564484177528@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi,

Thanks JoAnne, I was not aware that the debate was already ON on other forums, lot of info and interesting ideas.

Hopefully, we will find some generous sponsor if all in every country use their personal contact and influence to convince.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)



> On Jul 30, 2019, at 2:56 PM, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> VERY informative link, JoAnne.  Thank you for posting it (especially for those of us who just recently re-joined the list after many years of pursuing other radio-interests).
> Ev, W2EV
> 
>    On Sunday, July 28, 2019, 8:03:31 PM EDT, JoAnne K9JKM via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
> You raise a topic that comes up often. Sometimes the discussion does not get anywhere and sometimes exhaustive lists of ideas are compared and discussed. I'd like to refer you to the most exhaustive recent discussion regarding HEO/GEO which ran on the QRZ.com forums:
> 
> https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/yes-we-do-need-want-a-geo-sat-with-ham-transponders-over-the-americas.656562/
> 
> - or- use https://tinyurl.com/HEO-GEO-Satellite-Discussion for an abbreviated URL in case the e-mail system clobbers the long link.
> 
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
> 
> 
> 
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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 14:56:46 2019
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 09:56:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
	and revenue
In-Reply-To: <E2A52A35-6ECA-45A1-8C8B-FC90F2383944@gmail.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<5d3e3782.1c69fb81.b5e96.6830@mx.google.com>
	<1895997814.1882695.1564484177528@mail.yahoo.com>
	<E2A52A35-6ECA-45A1-8C8B-FC90F2383944@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5d405aae.1c69fb81.82613.c525@mx.google.com>

> Hopefully, we will find some generous sponsor if all in every country use
> their personal contact and influence to convince.

My thinking is that people who have $1M, or $10M to donate are usually
looking to give to a cause that they believe in, a cause which "makes a
difference". Examples may include hunger, poverty, refugees, saving an
endangered species, or perhaps climate. Somehow building an expensive
satellite for hobbyists does not rise to this threshold even if we promise
to teach school children about space.

Amateur radio needs to aim high to compete with the causes that "make a
difference".

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jul 30 16:13:28 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:13:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 Elliptical Orbit visibility cycles
Message-ID: <1143312447762a3dd24fca4f9fce915b@mail.gmail.com>

As PSAT2's elliptical orbit is reaching its smallest footprint in the
northern hemisphere, we updated her general predictions.  At a latitude of
about 40 degrees, the difference in best elevation angles is about 20
degrees.  With best being 29 and worst being about 9 degrees now..

The Apogee/Perigee cycle repeats every 34 days.  For northern hemisphere
stations, maximum footprint apogee was 11 July and will be max again
August 13th, etc meaning its about at its worst now.

The cycle for local time-of-day pass times is every 48 days.  Noontime
passes were around July 20 and will return about sept 6, moving earlier
each day.  Though day-by-day local pass times appear to be about 5 minutes
later each day as shown on the PSAT2 page.
http://aprs.org/psat2.html with a new pass arriving about 90 minutes
earlier every other day.

Northern Hemisphere passes begin around sunrise and Southern Hemisphere is
entering a great operating period with high elevation angles and all
passes now occurring in afternoon daylight and the SSTV will be taking
images with full sun power.

PSAT2 will remain in DTMF uplink mode.  PSK31 and SSTV are also on.

Bob, WB4APR
http://aprs.org/sats.html  <== all APRS sats

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Jul 30 16:34:22 2019
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:34:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
In-Reply-To: <5d405aae.1c69fb81.82613.c525@mx.google.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<5d3e3782.1c69fb81.b5e96.6830@mx.google.com>
	<1895997814.1882695.1564484177528@mail.yahoo.com>
	<E2A52A35-6ECA-45A1-8C8B-FC90F2383944@gmail.com>
	<5d405aae.1c69fb81.82613.c525@mx.google.com>
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On 2019-07-30 09:56, JoAnne K9JKM via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> ... even if we promise to teach school children about space.
> 
> Amateur radio needs to aim high to compete with the causes that "make
> a difference".
JoAnne,

This resonates with me, as I see a general decline in the ability of 
newly minted engineers coming out of our "higher education" 
institutions. Too many distractions have made the average youngster 
impatient, sloppy, and poorly focused.

One could blame "the web", the proliferation of handheld devices, online 
multi-player gaming, etc. However you slice it, amateur radio just isn't 
seen as interesting anymore. We, as a culture, have lost the initiative 
to climb the mountain just because it is there.

I think that teaching a new generation of kids about radio, down to the 
circuit level with hands-on experiments, is a worthy endeavor. Building 
a CW (or even DSB for 10 meters) transmitter and a direct-conversion 
receiver can get a newly minted Novice on the air quickly.

However, we, as the amateur radio community, need to focus and immerse 
ourselves in the technology so that we can be effective teachers. If you 
lack the drive to dig into building, then be the Elmer that helps a 
potential or new ham to make her/his first contact on HF.

We need more W1FBs, W7ZOIs, W1GHZs, ... Yes, it's easy to go buy a $25 
HT, but the youngster will never know the feeling of personal 
satisfaction by building something, debugging it, learning from 
mistakes, and getting it to work. Perhaps, one of those fledgling 
experimenters will someday become the donor that helps us launch the $1M 
satellite.

So, off my soapbox now.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From corlissbs at aol.com  Tue Jul 30 20:03:08 2019
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:03:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
References: <1621668855.927.1564516988262.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1621668855.927.1564516988262@mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
Brad Smith KC9UQR
<So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>


From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 20:14:23 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:14:23 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
In-Reply-To: <1621668855.927.1564516988262@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1621668855.927.1564516988262.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a downlink,
then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire standard to open
source amateur radio use would seem to be quite relevant.

Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are some
internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an
intermediate step.

Great question and discussion.

-Michelle W5NYV

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
> sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> Brad Smith KC9UQR
> <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
> soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could
> be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
>
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From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 20:26:42 2019
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:26:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
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Brad,

Indeed - but they won't be free!

John

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:04 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
> sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> Brad Smith KC9UQR
> <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
> soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could
> be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jul 30 20:29:57 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:29:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent??? (for free)
Message-ID: <5b240a9c8934ab932c0851d95b945263@mail.gmail.com>

Actually there is a geostationary channel that can be used by Ham
Operators that is for free.
https://othernet.is/

About 2 years ago, the APRS satellite ground station captures were made
available worldwide via three GEO satellites for reception anywhere on
earth.  But I recently found that the OUTERnet system has changed to a new
GEO satellite constellation and no longer uses INMARSAT L band satellites
but is now using a KA band downlink over the USA.  And that they are now
selling a new KA receiver kit for this satellite.

Has anyone kept up with them?
Here is my original WEB page but with the  links changed from OUTnet to
OTHERnet, but otherwise, not kept up to date.
http://aprs.org/othernet.html

If anyone has one of their receivers or is receiving the downlink and/or
wants to help me get my web page all cleaned up to what has changed over
the last two years, let me know.

This is a powerful capability.  I hope we can keep it working.

The way it is supposed to work is that you can send a specially formatted
APRS packet (position, status or message) on any APRS network (terrestrial
or satellite) and it should get parsed by the APRS-IS.  Therer it can be
captured by the OTHERNET non-profit ground station and uplinked to the
APRS channel on their satellites to the downlink that anyone can receive.
Ostensibly a ham radio volunteer global emergency backup channel.

Its round-about, but a possible play-point...

Bob, Wb4APR


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Brad Smith via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:03 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???

Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
Brad Smith KC9UQR
<So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could
be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>

From peter at magicbug.co.uk  Tue Jul 30 21:01:06 2019
From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 22:01:06 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
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Wouldn't the fact the uplink wasn't happening on amateur radio
frequencies or perhaps indirectly then backhauled over the internet
then uplinked on Commerical frequencies remove the "amateur radio
component"? thus bring into question whether it's really open and
within the ethos of the hobby? it would be like MMDVM which doesn't
really appeal to me.

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 21:25, Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a downlink,
> then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire standard to open
> source amateur radio use would seem to be quite relevant.
>
> Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are some
> internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an
> intermediate step.
>
> Great question and discussion.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
> > sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> > Brad Smith KC9UQR
> > <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
> > soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could
> > be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jul 30 21:24:06 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:24:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
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They are taking a publically available capture file of APRS traffic
(available to anyone on FINDU.COM) and uplinking a copy of it to their
satelilte non-profit file system.

With the creativity of some hams. I see potential for experimentation in
finding ways to use this capability for Amateur radio disaster response in
remote areas.  We listen to broadcast NOAA weather reports and make use of
that too.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Peter Goodhall
(2M0SQL) via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:01 PM
To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; Brad Smith <corlissbs at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???

Wouldn't the fact the uplink wasn't happening on amateur radio frequencies
or perhaps indirectly then backhauled over the internet then uplinked on
Commerical frequencies remove the "amateur radio component"? thus bring
into question whether it's really open and within the ethos of the hobby?
it would be like MMDVM which doesn't really appeal to me.

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 21:25, Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a
> downlink, then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire
> standard to open source amateur radio use would seem to be quite
relevant.
>
> Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are
> some internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an
> intermediate step.
>
> Great question and discussion.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working
> > the sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> > Brad Smith KC9UQR
> > <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S.,
> > could we soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well
> > ?Maybe this could be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 21:42:19 2019
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:42:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Still ok to use AO-85 in daylight?
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOYAdh9xtaoM1gWkcts3BbX-QqBnRMUQWN9vk5W_qZ0ssQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good day!

Just wanted to make sure it was still ok to use AO-85 when it's illuminated.

Here it is just after 5:30pm local time on a sunny day and I almost had the
entire pass all to myself across the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, &
Mid-Atlantic until George (WA5KBH) finally came in right at the end of my
footprint.

Made me worry that I might have missed an instruction about the use of
AO-85 since this is not what you normally expect on an FM satellite mid-day.

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Tue Jul 30 21:48:22 2019
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:48:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Still ok to use AO-85 in daylight?
Message-ID: <609836977.8908.1564523302818@wamui-quail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Yes, please feel free to use it while illuminated!

73, Drew KO4MA




-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: Jul 30, 2019 5:42 PM
>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Still ok to use AO-85 in daylight?
>
>Good day!
>
>Just wanted to make sure it was still ok to use AO-85 when it's illuminated.
>
>Here it is just after 5:30pm local time on a sunny day and I almost had the
>entire pass all to myself across the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, &
>Mid-Atlantic until George (WA5KBH) finally came in right at the end of my
>footprint.
>
>Made me worry that I might have missed an instruction about the use of
>AO-85 since this is not what you normally expect on an FM satellite mid-day.
>
>Thanks!
>
>-Scott,  K4KDR
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From n0jy at amsat.org  Tue Jul 30 22:11:06 2019
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:11:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
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On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type goals?
Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
debris regulations.? GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.? We can't
license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
last "too long" by itself.? There are options available for deorbit BUT
the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
FCC.? In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
keeping within the current expectations of 3U.? A change in size (6U)
might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
now.? We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
possibilities.? If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.? If we had a million bucks
and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
million budget then we would be pursuing that.

Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
say in specific orbit parameters.

One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.?
The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
along.? And then again, there's likely cost there too...? We have some
options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
be happening today.?

Other possibilities?? As far as I know we are pursuing the current
options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
aren't other possibilities.? If you have any, keep in mind that building
a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
gaining any approval.? And 90% probability that whatever will get you
back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.?

We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
launches.? We are not magically known just because we launched some
pretty cool satellites in the past.? Hopefully we will be known by more
through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
who we look to for these launch opportunities.

Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
barrier...

Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From n0jy at amsat.org  Tue Jul 30 22:37:32 2019
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:37:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest
 and revenue
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On 7/30/2019 11:34, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> This resonates with me, as I see a general decline in the ability of
> newly minted engineers coming out of our "higher education"
> institutions. Too many distractions have made the average youngster
> impatient, sloppy, and poorly focused. 
I'm not commenting either way on this observation, but it did make me
think of another consideration in the return to HEO or for that matter,
non-LEO and anything with a hefty price tag.? There has been a fair
amount of outcry over not so much the failure of AO-95's receive
capability and yes we are still working on possibilities to help
determine what went wrong or perhaps, get it working (I'm an optimist)
but take that to the level of a $1M or more project and the scrutiny
probably becomes pretty hard to bear, as you can imagine.?

Given the money to do a HEO it is also necessary to exercise the caution
and care to make sure you succeed, lest a mistake cripple the satellite
and run off half the membership kind of like AO-40's unfortunate tale,
not to mention running off investors.? That takes a bunch of time and
dedicated volunteers who have the expertise and stick around long enough
to make it work and pass along the knowledge.? To my knowledge, all of
the prior HEO took a lot of time, money, and effort.? I would be happy
to be involved with such a well subsidized effort but I honestly don't
see it happening quickly in terms of member-years, although 5 or
possibly more years in the "construction" business is nothing and no
matter how many years, is always amazingly short.

Just sayin', return to HEO is as much my desire as anyone else and I
still have my AO-10/13/40 antennas so I have every incentive to
succeed!? (That's partially a joke, son.)
It just may not be fast, it has to be careful, and it sure has to be a
mission set in solid requirements from the get-go and free of politics
or personal desires to change the course once the requirements are
written and design begins.? And with volunteers, that's not always as
easy as you might think, especially because they come and go.?
Volunteers are in my experience, less inclined to stay around the longer
times needed for things like this, at least 'these days'.? Look at how
many worked long and hard at AMSAT's prior HEO and projects.? And these
satellite things, they will frustrate and contradict you every step of
the way.? It's almost like they resist being easy, perfect.? They are
the embodiment of Capt. Edward A. Murphy's law.? Ya gotta love it!

Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From fmhillhouse at comcast.net  Wed Jul 31 01:57:13 2019
From: fmhillhouse at comcast.net (Fred Hillhouse)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 21:57:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and Android)?
In-Reply-To: <956e7b7b-2589-9de2-51b1-762ab795e72e@gmail.com>
References: <MWHPR01MB2640C5C726DA1530681966D398C20@MWHPR01MB2640.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<956e7b7b-2589-9de2-51b1-762ab795e72e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <080f01d54743$46adbdb0$d4093910$@comcast.net>

By the way, if you send a message from any client (YAAC, APRSIS32 or a D72
radio) to ISS with anything for text, you will receive the next pass
predictions.

Fred N7FMH


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 1:51 AM
To: Ken M
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and Android)?

Hi Ken,

APRS client for windows is easily APRSIS32 by Lynn KJ4ERJ
(http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/ )  Very much current and actively
maintained.  It also includes satellite pass predictions via APRS
(keeping this satellite-relevant).

APRS client for Raspberry Pi:  My preference here is YAAC by Andrew
KA2DDO (https://www.ka2ddo.org/ka2ddo/YAAC.html).  If you don't need a
user interface (i.e. just for beacons, digipeating, and iGating),
Direwolf is a very good choice all by itself.  I run them together, with
Direwolf just handling the KISS TNC functions, and YAAC doing the
Graphical interface.

Android:  APRSdroid gets my vote, though there are others.

Greg  KO6TH


Ken M via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm seeking suggestions for good APRS client software packages for 
> Windows? There are a number of ancient packages out there but it would 
> be nice to find one that's thoroughly modern and still being maintained.
>
> I'm also looking for an APRS client for the Raspberry Pi and maybe 
> Android down the road.
>
> What's your favourite?
>
> Thanks & 73, Ken VA7KBM
>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jul 31 02:10:30 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 22:10:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-212 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - CAS-7B
 Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102)
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN
ANS-212

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
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In this edition:

* CAS-7B Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102)

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-212.01
ANS-212 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 212.01
 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE July 31, 2019
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-212.01

CAS-7B Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102)

On July 25, 2019, the CAS-7B (BP-1B) microsatellite was launched on a
Hyperbola-1 launch vehicle from the Jiuquan Space Center, China.
CAS-7B (BP-1B) was developed by the Chinese Amateur Satellite Group
(CAMSAT), and in cooperation with the Beijing Institute of Technology
(BIT). CAMSAT completed the project planning, design, build, and
testing, and manages the on-orbit operation of the satellite. BIT
provided the satellite environmental testing, launch support, and
financial support. Many students from BIT were involved with the
project, learning about satellite technology and amateur radio. The
satellite carries a CW telemetry beacon and FM repeater that has been
active since launch.

At the request of CAMSAT and the BIT team, AMSAT hereby designates
CAS-7B (BP-1B) as BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102). We congratulate the
owners and operators of BO-102, thank them for their contribution to
the amateur satellite community, and wish them continued success on
this and future projects.

73,

Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
AMSAT VP Operations / OSCAR Number Administrator

[ANS thanks AMSAT VP Operations / OSCAR Number Administrator Drew
Glasbrenner, KO4MA, for the above information.]

/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

73 and Remember to help Keep Amateur Radio in Space,

This week's ANS Contributing Editor,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
n8hm at amsat dot org

From pconver at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 03:09:17 2019
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:09:17 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B BO-102 over SA
Message-ID: <CANTZqKnY+2ZSCGOhzfGKKV48kQ-ZuS5p6J4d9V=DaWU3PqL23g@mail.gmail.com>

High activity on FM repeater on BO-102 sat, at 03:00z, orbit 91.

Many contacts, using 10w and 5 elem yagis, strong CW TLM.

Congrats on new designation and for this useful sat

73, lu7abf, Pedro

From pconver at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 03:47:53 2019
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:47:53 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] BO-102/CAS-7B Short life
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=bwUuQjGQPXrTxhjGg7Ya+fcQ0EKbrXJX0i3O=mvuzmw@mail.gmail.com>

If trying QSO via BO-102, better hurry up, forecast shows reentry on August-9.

196     19043A    44443   19211.720223   19221.562494  (2019 August 9)

Reentry Calc with program at http://amsat.org.ar/satevo.zip

BO-102 is 2019-043A. Latest Keps at http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt

Will be interesting to watch when and where is reentry thru latest receptions.

Passes, frecs and height at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=cas7b

73, lu7abf, Pedro

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 31 05:18:31 2019
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:18:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 19-12
Message-ID: <8ECDC9DDE36B4D178290165C97898EBF@DHJ>

 

 

 

ARISS News Release                                                                                                  No. 19-12

 

Dave Jordan, AA4KN 

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org

July 30, 2019 

SSTV Event planned for Early August

 

ARISS plans to celebrate the life and accomplishments of astronaut, scientist and ham radio pioneer Owen Garriott with a commemorative SSTV event featuring images from Garriott's work with ham radio during his missions in space. This event is currently scheduled to begin on August 1 at 09:40 UTC and ends at 18:15 UTC on August 4. Please make note that the content of these upcoming SSTV transmissions may change. An update is expected after Friday, July 26 as to what the image content will be for the August 1-4 dates. If this change takes place, the Owen Garriott image transmissions will be postponed until another event can be scheduled toward the end of August.

 

Transmissions will be sent at 145.800 MHz FM in the SSTV mode PD-120. Once received, images can be posted and viewed by the public at http://www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/index.php and you can receive a special SSTV ARISS Award for posting your image. See https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/sstv/ for details. Also for simplicity, we have added a new information tab for SSTV events, under the General Contacts pulldown menu at www.ariss.org . The latest updates can also be found at the ARISS Facebook site Amateur Radio On The International Space Station (ARISS) and on Twitter @ ARISS_status. 

 

 

About ARISS:

 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).  In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

 

Media Contact:

Dave Jordan, AA4KN

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org

 

 


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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 31 05:20:33 2019
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:20:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 19-13
Message-ID: <90DC392C7D6846099E687ED6C4CBA705@DHJ>

 

 

 

ARISS News Release                                                                                                  No. 19-13

 

Dave Jordan, AA4KN 

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org

July 31, 2019 

 

          ARISS Next Generation Radio System Completes Critical Flight Certification Tests

 

The Interoperable Radio System (IORS), ARISS' next generation radio system successfully completed a battery of stressful tests required as part of the final certification of the hardware for launch to and operation on the International Space Station.

 

During the week of July 8, the IORS, consisting of the JVC Kenwood D-710GA Radio and the AMSAT developed Multi-Voltage Power Supply, successfully completed a series of Electro-magnetic Interference (EMI)/Electro-Magnetic Compatibility (EMC) tests to ensure that the ARISS hardware will not interfere with the ISS systems or other payloads. Testing continued into the following week, where the IORS successfully passed power quality and acoustics testing. These tests verified that the ARISS IORS will not introduce harmful signals back into the ISS power system and is quiet enough to meet ISS acoustic requirements. ARISS Hardware Team members Lou McFadin, W5DID and Kerry Banke, N6IZW were at the NASA Johnson Space Center supporting this two week battery of tests in concert with the NASA test and certification team. 

 

Kerry Banke states, "Since the IORS is being qualified to operate on 120VDC, 28VDC and Russian 28VDC as well as transmitting on VHF or UHF, a lot of test combinations were required to cover all cases. Each input voltage type was also tested at low, medium and high line voltage. Moreover, additional permutations were required to test the IORS under no load, medium load and full load at each voltage level. So it should not be surprising why the tests took two weeks to complete." 

 

Successful completion of these tests represents a key milestone in preparing the IORS for launch. ARISS can now begin final assembly of the flight safety certification in preparation for launch. ARISS is working towards launch ready status by the end of the year.   

 

 

About ARISS:

 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).  In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

 

 

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ARISS PR

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From w2ev at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 31 10:51:37 2019
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 10:51:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
In-Reply-To: <CACvjz2XGtX8WssdbUVJT3y0j=p=yGSvxaxDhkMdp5KY8Bx5-CA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1621668855.927.1564516988262.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1621668855.927.1564516988262@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CACvjz2XGtX8WssdbUVJT3y0j=p=yGSvxaxDhkMdp5KY8Bx5-CA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2040269993.129241.1564570297258@mail.yahoo.com>

 This is interesting for sure, Michelle.
Traditionally, amateur satellites (and symbiants) have been self-contained RX and TX systems.

Conjecture follows...If DVB-S2 could be negotiated to provide the downlink, the missing component is an uplink within the amateur bands (just restating you).
That means (if it can be negotiated), our work is cut in half because we are reduced to providing the uplink (RX) side and a pathway to the DVB-S2 downlink.? Of course, this is an oversimplification because we would also need all of the things that make a symbiant palatable to the host system.
Interesting thought experiment, though.
Ev



    On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 4:26:39 PM EDT, Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a downlink,
then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire standard to open
source amateur radio use would seem to be quite relevant.

Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are some
internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an
intermediate step.

Great question and discussion.

-Michelle W5NYV

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
> sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> Brad Smith KC9UQR
> <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
> soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could
> be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From w2ev at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 31 11:09:20 2019
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:09:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <a994c4b6-cc22-c666-0ce5-8c7d03d29a9e@amsat.org>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a994c4b6-cc22-c666-0ce5-8c7d03d29a9e@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1080304221.122133.1564571360519@mail.yahoo.com>

 Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive) bird into orbit and manage it.

If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark" next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.

Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?? Let's play it out here!
Ev, W2EV

    On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type goals?
Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
debris regulations.? GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.? We can't
license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
last "too long" by itself.? There are options available for deorbit BUT
the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
FCC.? In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
keeping within the current expectations of 3U.? A change in size (6U)
might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
now.? We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
possibilities.? If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.? If we had a million bucks
and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
million budget then we would be pursuing that.

Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
say in specific orbit parameters.

One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.?
The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
along.? And then again, there's likely cost there too...? We have some
options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
be happening today.?

Other possibilities?? As far as I know we are pursuing the current
options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
aren't other possibilities.? If you have any, keep in mind that building
a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
gaining any approval.? And 90% probability that whatever will get you
back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.?

We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
launches.? We are not magically known just because we launched some
pretty cool satellites in the past.? Hopefully we will be known by more
through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
who we look to for these launch opportunities.

Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
barrier...

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 12:22:31 2019
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 08:22:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <1080304221.122133.1564571360519@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a994c4b6-cc22-c666-0ce5-8c7d03d29a9e@amsat.org>
	<1080304221.122133.1564571360519@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABsMmtTiGYMgvFjMD4nv_BNU+TqS2KwHsVZm7-WQkouFhdVPcA@mail.gmail.com>

Ev,

The orbital debris regulations are a huge barrier.  See Jerry's post on
this reflector.  It is not the case that AMSAT is not looking very hard at
the issue.  Everything has an opportunity cost associated with it.  AMSAT
has limited resources both in terms of people and dollars.  Are you
suggesting AMSAT drop everything they are working on and pursue your pet
option?

Bacon's Law was passed by the Virginia Legislature June 23, 1676, after
Nathaniel Bacon *invaded* Jamestown and *forced* the legislature to grant
him a charter to go fight Indians.  *That* Bacon's Law?  So you are
suggesting we *invade* AMSAT HQ and *force* the Board of Director's to
authorize this project?

Maybe you are referring to a different Bacon's Law.  Sounds kind of over
the top to me.

Respectfully,

John

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:12 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>  Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough
> (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
> breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical
> (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive)
> bird into orbit and manage it.
>
> If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark"
> next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and
> "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
>
> Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?
> Let's play it out here!
> Ev, W2EV
>
>     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
> goals?
> Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
> debris regulations.  GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
> enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.  We can't
> license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
> HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
> last "too long" by itself.  There are options available for deorbit BUT
> the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
> FCC.  In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
> keeping within the current expectations of 3U.  A change in size (6U)
> might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
> now.  We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
> possibilities.  If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
> then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
> a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.  If we had a million bucks
> and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
> million budget then we would be pursuing that.
>
> Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
> naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
> buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
> say in specific orbit parameters.
>
> One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.
> The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
> on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
> having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
> primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
> along.  And then again, there's likely cost there too...  We have some
> options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
> be happening today.
>
> Other possibilities?  As far as I know we are pursuing the current
> options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
> aren't other possibilities.  If you have any, keep in mind that building
> a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
> gaining any approval.  And 90% probability that whatever will get you
> back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.
>
> We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
> lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
> new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
> the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
> beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
> launches.  We are not magically known just because we launched some
> pretty cool satellites in the past.  Hopefully we will be known by more
> through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
> and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
> who we look to for these launch opportunities.
>
> Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
> barrier...
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Wed Jul 31 12:51:09 2019
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 07:51:09 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
	attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <66b68649-edf4-e2f7-545b-7d23d5938ea0@charter.net>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
	<66b68649-edf4-e2f7-545b-7d23d5938ea0@charter.net>
Message-ID: <002701d5479e$a1093e00$e31bba00$@net>

> Everyone, The next is how do we remove the barriers ... [and other BS] ...

The AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting, October 16-17
Hilton Arlington, 950 North Stafford Street, Arlington, Virginia, 22203

See you there?

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From ke6blr.robert at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 16:40:07 2019
From: ke6blr.robert at gmail.com (KE6BLR Robert)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 09:40:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite APRS Packets
Message-ID: <CABaTVVZaOYKq-e8=Drxe4ohGhPp_N7EJVPtMGoEZgEaEScq_1w@mail.gmail.com>

Our club provides tools and tutorials for Boy Scouts seeking merit badges
in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration. We provide a public website for
monitoring Satellite APRS Packets. Feel free to give it a test drive and
bookmark for future use:

http://spaceCommunicator.club/aprs

This covers all packets from all satellites. Packets waterfall after 24
hours.

73

Robert
KE6BLR

From lu7aa at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 31 17:19:36 2019
From: lu7aa at yahoo.com (Amsat Argentina)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 17:19:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS-SSTV Aug 1-4
References: <299098564.391543.1564593576401.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <299098564.391543.1564593576401@mail.yahoo.com>

On http://www.ariss.org ARISS plan to send SSTV from ISS on 145.800 KHz PD-120.

Opportunity to start or complete ARISS-SSTV Diploma http://amsat.org.ar?f=9

Congrats to IK1SLD, IU4APB, LW9DVW and DL4YCD for theirs Diplomas achievement.

Passes at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=iss Good luck on capture !

73, LU7AA, AMSAT Argentina
http://amsat.org.ar

From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jul 31 17:42:24 2019
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:42:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS-SSTV Aug 1-4 (and PSAT2)
Message-ID: <c91c4d981d0cc5c2d4082385c427c5d7@mail.gmail.com>

And while you are waiting to see SSTV from ISS, remember PSAT2 also has
SSTV.

It turns out PSAT2's strings of passes and ISS strings of passes are
more-or-less alternating.  So if ISS passes are generally in view now,
PSAT2's are not.  And if you have to wait several hours for ISS, then
check and see if PSAT2 passes are in the area.  PSAT2 is object number
44354.  SSTV downlink is 435.350 +/- Doppler.  SSTV is only on when the
satellite is in Sun.

It helps to keep the PSAT2 transponder up if there is someone also on the
PSK31 uplink during the pass on 29.4815 MHz.

Bob, WB4aPR

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From: Amsat Argentina via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:20 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS-SSTV Aug 1-4

On http://www.ariss.org ARISS plan to send SSTV from ISS on 145.800 KHz
PD-120.

Opportunity to start or complete ARISS-SSTV Diploma
http://amsat.org.ar?f=9

Congrats to IK1SLD, IU4APB, LW9DVW and DL4YCD for theirs Diplomas
achievement.

Passes at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=iss Good luck on capture !

73, LU7AA, AMSAT Argentina
http://amsat.org.ar

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 17:48:54 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:48:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CABsMmtTiGYMgvFjMD4nv_BNU+TqS2KwHsVZm7-WQkouFhdVPcA@mail.gmail.com>
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Bacon's law here means everyone is no more than six people away from
someone who personally knows Kevin Bacon. He is saying we all know a
lot of people, enough people that we might be able to do impressive
things with them.

Also, surely he doesn't mean AMSAT should drop everything for this
idea. I think you're reading into Ev's message too much.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:26 AM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Ev,
>
> The orbital debris regulations are a huge barrier.  See Jerry's post on
> this reflector.  It is not the case that AMSAT is not looking very hard at
> the issue.  Everything has an opportunity cost associated with it.  AMSAT
> has limited resources both in terms of people and dollars.  Are you
> suggesting AMSAT drop everything they are working on and pursue your pet
> option?
>
> Bacon's Law was passed by the Virginia Legislature June 23, 1676, after
> Nathaniel Bacon *invaded* Jamestown and *forced* the legislature to grant
> him a charter to go fight Indians.  *That* Bacon's Law?  So you are
> suggesting we *invade* AMSAT HQ and *force* the Board of Director's to
> authorize this project?
>
> Maybe you are referring to a different Bacon's Law.  Sounds kind of over
> the top to me.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:12 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> >  Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough
> > (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
> > breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical
> > (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive)
> > bird into orbit and manage it.
> >
> > If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark"
> > next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and
> > "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
> >
> > Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?
> > Let's play it out here!
> > Ev, W2EV
> >
> >     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
> > goals?
> > Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
> > debris regulations.  GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
> > enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.  We can't
> > license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
> > HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
> > last "too long" by itself.  There are options available for deorbit BUT
> > the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
> > FCC.  In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
> > keeping within the current expectations of 3U.  A change in size (6U)
> > might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
> > now.  We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
> > possibilities.  If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
> > then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
> > a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.  If we had a million bucks
> > and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
> > million budget then we would be pursuing that.
> >
> > Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
> > naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
> > buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
> > say in specific orbit parameters.
> >
> > One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.
> > The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
> > on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
> > having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
> > primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
> > along.  And then again, there's likely cost there too...  We have some
> > options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
> > be happening today.
> >
> > Other possibilities?  As far as I know we are pursuing the current
> > options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
> > aren't other possibilities.  If you have any, keep in mind that building
> > a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
> > gaining any approval.  And 90% probability that whatever will get you
> > back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.
> >
> > We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
> > lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
> > new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
> > the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
> > beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
> > launches.  We are not magically known just because we launched some
> > pretty cool satellites in the past.  Hopefully we will be known by more
> > through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
> > and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
> > who we look to for these launch opportunities.
> >
> > Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
> > barrier...
> >
> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From johnnykludt at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 18:14:32 2019
From: johnnykludt at gmail.com (John Kludt)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:14:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOwkuZ5SCeciBLPuDv2abbd9odD96gAE62YsXxhO8aN-A@mail.gmail.com>
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	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CABsMmtRDLLh0zzKeSx-MG4TXJLsw8U7foqxu5j0k-t8vR0w03A@mail.gmail.com>

John,

Ah, like I said a different Bacon's Law.  With very different implications.

John

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:49 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bacon's law here means everyone is no more than six people away from
> someone who personally knows Kevin Bacon. He is saying we all know a
> lot of people, enough people that we might be able to do impressive
> things with them.
>
> Also, surely he doesn't mean AMSAT should drop everything for this
> idea. I think you're reading into Ev's message too much.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:26 AM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ev,
> >
> > The orbital debris regulations are a huge barrier.  See Jerry's post on
> > this reflector.  It is not the case that AMSAT is not looking very hard
> at
> > the issue.  Everything has an opportunity cost associated with it.  AMSAT
> > has limited resources both in terms of people and dollars.  Are you
> > suggesting AMSAT drop everything they are working on and pursue your pet
> > option?
> >
> > Bacon's Law was passed by the Virginia Legislature June 23, 1676, after
> > Nathaniel Bacon *invaded* Jamestown and *forced* the legislature to grant
> > him a charter to go fight Indians.  *That* Bacon's Law?  So you are
> > suggesting we *invade* AMSAT HQ and *force* the Board of Director's to
> > authorize this project?
> >
> > Maybe you are referring to a different Bacon's Law.  Sounds kind of over
> > the top to me.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:12 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long
> enough
> > > (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
> > > breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly
> elliptical
> > > (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more
> expensive)
> > > bird into orbit and manage it.
> > >
> > > If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark"
> > > next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress",
> and
> > > "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
> > >
> > > Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?
> > > Let's play it out here!
> > > Ev, W2EV
> > >
> > >     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via
> AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >  On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > > What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40
> type
> > > goals?
> > > Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
> > > debris regulations.  GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because
> the
> > > enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.  We can't
> > > license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
> > > HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
> > > last "too long" by itself.  There are options available for deorbit BUT
> > > the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
> > > FCC.  In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
> > > keeping within the current expectations of 3U.  A change in size (6U)
> > > might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
> > > now.  We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
> > > possibilities.  If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
> > > then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
> > > a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.  If we had a million bucks
> > > and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
> > > million budget then we would be pursuing that.
> > >
> > > Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
> > > naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
> > > buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
> > > say in specific orbit parameters.
> > >
> > > One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.
> > > The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
> > > on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
> > > having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
> > > primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
> > > along.  And then again, there's likely cost there too...  We have some
> > > options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just
> won't
> > > be happening today.
> > >
> > > Other possibilities?  As far as I know we are pursuing the current
> > > options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
> > > aren't other possibilities.  If you have any, keep in mind that
> building
> > > a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
> > > gaining any approval.  And 90% probability that whatever will get you
> > > back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.
> > >
> > > We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
> > > lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
> > > new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
> > > the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
> > > beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
> > > launches.  We are not magically known just because we launched some
> > > pretty cool satellites in the past.  Hopefully we will be known by more
> > > through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book"
> production
> > > and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
> > > who we look to for these launch opportunities.
> > >
> > > Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
> > > barrier...
> > >
> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 18:24:49 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:24:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CABsMmtRDLLh0zzKeSx-MG4TXJLsw8U7foqxu5j0k-t8vR0w03A@mail.gmail.com>
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	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<1080304221.122133.1564571360519@mail.yahoo.com>
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Indeed sir.

If we can get ahold of Kevin Bacon maybe we can get a GEO sat!

;-)

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:14 PM John Kludt <johnnykludt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Ah, like I said a different Bacon's Law.  With very different implications.
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:49 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bacon's law here means everyone is no more than six people away from
>> someone who personally knows Kevin Bacon. He is saying we all know a
>> lot of people, enough people that we might be able to do impressive
>> things with them.
>>
>> Also, surely he doesn't mean AMSAT should drop everything for this
>> idea. I think you're reading into Ev's message too much.
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:26 AM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ev,
>> >
>> > The orbital debris regulations are a huge barrier.  See Jerry's post on
>> > this reflector.  It is not the case that AMSAT is not looking very hard at
>> > the issue.  Everything has an opportunity cost associated with it.  AMSAT
>> > has limited resources both in terms of people and dollars.  Are you
>> > suggesting AMSAT drop everything they are working on and pursue your pet
>> > option?
>> >
>> > Bacon's Law was passed by the Virginia Legislature June 23, 1676, after
>> > Nathaniel Bacon *invaded* Jamestown and *forced* the legislature to grant
>> > him a charter to go fight Indians.  *That* Bacon's Law?  So you are
>> > suggesting we *invade* AMSAT HQ and *force* the Board of Director's to
>> > authorize this project?
>> >
>> > Maybe you are referring to a different Bacon's Law.  Sounds kind of over
>> > the top to me.
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:12 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >  Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough
>> > > (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
>> > > breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical
>> > > (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive)
>> > > bird into orbit and manage it.
>> > >
>> > > If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark"
>> > > next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and
>> > > "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
>> > >
>> > > Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?
>> > > Let's play it out here!
>> > > Ev, W2EV
>> > >
>> > >     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
>> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >  On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> > > > What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
>> > > goals?
>> > > Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
>> > > debris regulations.  GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
>> > > enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.  We can't
>> > > license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
>> > > HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
>> > > last "too long" by itself.  There are options available for deorbit BUT
>> > > the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
>> > > FCC.  In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
>> > > keeping within the current expectations of 3U.  A change in size (6U)
>> > > might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
>> > > now.  We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
>> > > possibilities.  If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
>> > > then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
>> > > a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.  If we had a million bucks
>> > > and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
>> > > million budget then we would be pursuing that.
>> > >
>> > > Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
>> > > naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
>> > > buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
>> > > say in specific orbit parameters.
>> > >
>> > > One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.
>> > > The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
>> > > on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
>> > > having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
>> > > primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
>> > > along.  And then again, there's likely cost there too...  We have some
>> > > options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
>> > > be happening today.
>> > >
>> > > Other possibilities?  As far as I know we are pursuing the current
>> > > options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
>> > > aren't other possibilities.  If you have any, keep in mind that building
>> > > a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
>> > > gaining any approval.  And 90% probability that whatever will get you
>> > > back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.
>> > >
>> > > We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
>> > > lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
>> > > new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
>> > > the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
>> > > beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
>> > > launches.  We are not magically known just because we launched some
>> > > pretty cool satellites in the past.  Hopefully we will be known by more
>> > > through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
>> > > and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
>> > > who we look to for these launch opportunities.
>> > >
>> > > Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
>> > > barrier...
>> > >
>> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 18:39:33 2019
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:39:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYt1_mW0x4h=C1PPpvi3uGLUuE7_2AHaEhv=PNenF-1G4w@mail.gmail.com>

I know we currently have AMSAT-DL's P3E sitting in storage in Germany.
Perhaps some day we can find a good opportunity under the government to fly
P3E with a bunch of experiments for them like what AMSAT found under the
Virginia Tech P3E opportunity in 2015 which dident happen because they
wanted us to pay 4M to insure on time integration. I do think advocating
that it can be used for emergency communications and for flying their
experiments could definitely help us find a rare opportunity in that
Molniya type orbit. I assume that the de-orbiting could possibly be done
with its Kicker Motor? Ultimately, we are under the mercy of the launch
providers and government regulations. I do think that with hard work from
our wonderful AMSAT volunteers, we can get back to HEO/GEO at soon. Also
the work on Phase 4 ground has been wonderful. I wish the best fpr Phase 4
project and the GOLF program.

73, Nick KE8AKW

From rwyrwas48 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 19:04:26 2019
From: rwyrwas48 at gmail.com (Rick Wyrwas)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:04:26 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?QSO=E2=80=99s_on_AO_91_WA9JBQ?=
Message-ID: <CAFeVdEMr+b=CGeDHPAi9LTQEmc-oQ9dytyAzRsnK4BfYx-iyHg@mail.gmail.com>

For this who contacted me on AO91 at 18:42 utc Pass.  My recorded turned off
Please email rwyrwas48 @gmail and I will log LOTW. From DN55

Thanks

Rick
WA9JBQ
-- 
Rick Wyrwas

From stephennipper at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 19:22:08 2019
From: stephennipper at gmail.com (H. Stephen Nipper)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:22:08 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
 attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOEny0Bv5qozv-9MbbxWx_tHc5doAft5EukjLb8puGmfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a994c4b6-cc22-c666-0ce5-8c7d03d29a9e@amsat.org>
	<1080304221.122133.1564571360519@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABsMmtTiGYMgvFjMD4nv_BNU+TqS2KwHsVZm7-WQkouFhdVPcA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOwkuZ5SCeciBLPuDv2abbd9odD96gAE62YsXxhO8aN-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABsMmtRDLLh0zzKeSx-MG4TXJLsw8U7foqxu5j0k-t8vR0w03A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOEny0Bv5qozv-9MbbxWx_tHc5doAft5EukjLb8puGmfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPf7+3pfUvCs+cSN0cCQUCrS5ba0hfwEr8U6ndG+w9Rkux=Ung@mail.gmail.com>

I thought that was Six Degrees of Separation.



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:26 PM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Indeed sir.
>
> If we can get ahold of Kevin Bacon maybe we can get a GEO sat!
>
> ;-)
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:14 PM John Kludt <johnnykludt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Ah, like I said a different Bacon's Law.  With very different
> implications.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:49 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bacon's law here means everyone is no more than six people away from
> >> someone who personally knows Kevin Bacon. He is saying we all know a
> >> lot of people, enough people that we might be able to do impressive
> >> things with them.
> >>
> >> Also, surely he doesn't mean AMSAT should drop everything for this
> >> idea. I think you're reading into Ev's message too much.
> >>
> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:26 AM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB
> >> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ev,
> >> >
> >> > The orbital debris regulations are a huge barrier.  See Jerry's post
> on
> >> > this reflector.  It is not the case that AMSAT is not looking very
> hard at
> >> > the issue.  Everything has an opportunity cost associated with it.
> AMSAT
> >> > has limited resources both in terms of people and dollars.  Are you
> >> > suggesting AMSAT drop everything they are working on and pursue your
> pet
> >> > option?
> >> >
> >> > Bacon's Law was passed by the Virginia Legislature June 23, 1676,
> after
> >> > Nathaniel Bacon *invaded* Jamestown and *forced* the legislature to
> grant
> >> > him a charter to go fight Indians.  *That* Bacon's Law?  So you are
> >> > suggesting we *invade* AMSAT HQ and *force* the Board of Director's to
> >> > authorize this project?
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you are referring to a different Bacon's Law.  Sounds kind of
> over
> >> > the top to me.
> >> >
> >> > Respectfully,
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:12 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >  Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long
> enough
> >> > > (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic
> work
> >> > > breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly
> elliptical
> >> > > (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more
> expensive)
> >> > > bird into orbit and manage it.
> >> > >
> >> > > If that person (or people) could publish that along with a
> "checkmark"
> >> > > next to the items that are "already in place", "in active
> progress", and
> >> > > "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the
> gaps.
> >> > >
> >> > > Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's
> Law")?
> >> > > Let's play it out here!
> >> > > Ev, W2EV
> >> > >
> >> > >     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via
> AMSAT-BB <
> >> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >  On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >> > > > What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and
> AO-40 type
> >> > > goals?
> >> > > Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
> >> > > debris regulations.  GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go
> because the
> >> > > enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.  We
> can't
> >> > > license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years
> and a
> >> > > HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is
> likely to
> >> > > last "too long" by itself.  There are options available for deorbit
> BUT
> >> > > the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by
> the
> >> > > FCC.  In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
> >> > > keeping within the current expectations of 3U.  A change in size
> (6U)
> >> > > might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either,
> right
> >> > > now.  We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
> >> > > possibilities.  If something is available whether drag or
> propulsion,
> >> > > then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a
> launch to
> >> > > a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.  If we had a million
> bucks
> >> > > and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
> >> > > million budget then we would be pursuing that.
> >> > >
> >> > > Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
> >> > > naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
> >> > > buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a
> lot of
> >> > > say in specific orbit parameters.
> >> > >
> >> > > One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.
> >> > > The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance
> is
> >> > > on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into
> not
> >> > > having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
> >> > > primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
> >> > > along.  And then again, there's likely cost there too...  We have
> some
> >> > > options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just
> won't
> >> > > be happening today.
> >> > >
> >> > > Other possibilities?  As far as I know we are pursuing the current
> >> > > options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
> >> > > aren't other possibilities.  If you have any, keep in mind that
> building
> >> > > a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
> >> > > gaining any approval.  And 90% probability that whatever will get
> you
> >> > > back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.
> >> > >
> >> > > We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with
> going
> >> > > lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it
> is
> >> > > new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as
> well as
> >> > > the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
> >> > > beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years
> of
> >> > > launches.  We are not magically known just because we launched some
> >> > > pretty cool satellites in the past.  Hopefully we will be known by
> more
> >> > > through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book"
> production
> >> > > and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and
> others
> >> > > who we look to for these launch opportunities.
> >> > >
> >> > > Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
> >> > > barrier...
> >> > >
> >> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> > > expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> > > Subscription settings:
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> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> > > expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> > > Subscription settings:
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> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> > Subscription settings:
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> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
Stephen Nipper
Boise, Idaho
N7DJX

From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 20:11:10 2019
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 15:11:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
	attract more interest and revenue]
In-Reply-To: <CABsMmtRDLLh0zzKeSx-MG4TXJLsw8U7foqxu5j0k-t8vR0w03A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1942716812.7895237.1564327893924.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1942716812.7895237.1564327893924@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a00c712c-ce85-45a9-e71f-a9f5e0c27933@charter.net>
	<298284940.1057591.1564357580410@mail.yahoo.com>
	<a994c4b6-cc22-c666-0ce5-8c7d03d29a9e@amsat.org>
	<1080304221.122133.1564571360519@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABsMmtTiGYMgvFjMD4nv_BNU+TqS2KwHsVZm7-WQkouFhdVPcA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOwkuZ5SCeciBLPuDv2abbd9odD96gAE62YsXxhO8aN-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABsMmtRDLLh0zzKeSx-MG4TXJLsw8U7foqxu5j0k-t8vR0w03A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5d41f5dd.1c69fb81.48b47.9411@mx.google.com>

Bacon == Man Candy   ;-)

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From mat_62 at charter.net  Wed Jul 31 20:21:26 2019
From: mat_62 at charter.net (Michael)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:21:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 292 (HEO's,
	AMSAT perception)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12507.1564598385.32327.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.12507.1564598385.32327.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <a285ca79-e3af-048c-9d8b-85d8345cb2e9@charter.net>

Just from the outside looking in...

AMSAT APPEARS only to be interested in hoisting flying repeaters and 
PACSAT/APRS and showing the average ham how "easy" it is to work sats 
with a handheld and a simple antenna. I guess that's all well and good 
but I didn't get in the sat end of the hobby for "easy".? I wanted a new 
challenge. I was too late for A0-40 because of lack of funds for a 
station but I did have fun for awhile chasing AO-51, FO-29, AO-7 etc. 
with a TS-2000X and a homebrew rotator and antenna system. 
Unfortunately, life got in the way and I needed family funds so the 
Kenwood hit Ebay and I'm inactive on the birds now. I sometimes consider 
buying a couple of Baofengs (you should ALWAYS operate full duplex but 
that's another thread) and getting back in on the cheap, I even recently 
bought a beat up old telescope with a computer tracking tripod system I 
spotted at Goodwill, but honestly, the challenge isn't there to give me 
motivation.

Before everyone flames me, as I said, this is from the outside looking 
in and just one man's opinion. I really wish AMSAT would do something, 
anything, to change my perception. Seems to me I saw something about a 
YL running for the board who's interested in open sourcing stuff.? Her 
candidate statement was IMHO, a much needed breath of fresh air but I'm 
no longer a member and don't keep up so no idea if she got elected. If 
AMSAT wants my membership and donation dollars back, they need to change 
perception and I suspect there are many out here in the community who 
feel the way I do.

73,

Michael, W4HIJ


>>   Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough
>> (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
>> breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical
>> (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive)
>> bird into orbit and manage it.
>>
>> If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark"
>> next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and
>> "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
>>
>> Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?
>> Let's play it out here!
>> Ev, W2EV
>>
>>      On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>>   On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
>>

From mountain.michelle at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 20:34:04 2019
From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:34:04 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
In-Reply-To: <2040269993.129241.1564570297258@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1621668855.927.1564516988262.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1621668855.927.1564516988262@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CACvjz2XGtX8WssdbUVJT3y0j=p=yGSvxaxDhkMdp5KY8Bx5-CA@mail.gmail.com>
	<2040269993.129241.1564570297258@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CACvjz2Wpi8Nb7efckA_a_9H4DrssuQYhuJ_-FL579-cDv1fJrg@mail.gmail.com>

I got a call from a space industry contact who saw this post.

DVB-S2X down, FDMA up, single carrier, reasonable rent, public safety
partner. Money for a year's worth could be raised in a single campaign.

I'll see what I can find out and draw up a proposal.

-Michelle W5NYV




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 3:53 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>  This is interesting for sure, Michelle.
> Traditionally, amateur satellites (and symbiants) have been self-contained
> RX and TX systems.
>
> Conjecture follows...If DVB-S2 could be negotiated to provide the
> downlink, the missing component is an uplink within the amateur bands (just
> restating you).
> That means (if it can be negotiated), our work is cut in half because we
> are reduced to providing the uplink (RX) side and a pathway to the DVB-S2
> downlink.  Of course, this is an oversimplification because we would also
> need all of the things that make a symbiant palatable to the host system.
> Interesting thought experiment, though.
> Ev
>
>
>
>     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 4:26:39 PM EDT, Michelle Thompson via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a downlink,
> then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire standard to open
> source amateur radio use would seem to be quite relevant.
>
> Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are some
> internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an
> intermediate step.
>
> Great question and discussion.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
> > sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> > Brad Smith KC9UQR
> > <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
> > soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this
> could
> > be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 22:06:41 2019
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 18:06:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 292 (HEO's,
	AMSAT perception)
In-Reply-To: <a285ca79-e3af-048c-9d8b-85d8345cb2e9@charter.net>
References: <mailman.12507.1564598385.32327.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<a285ca79-e3af-048c-9d8b-85d8345cb2e9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO6x9rq_eg=fvcQFyY8=_uAdYdPDXKYhAEQRGZyNXdUvA@mail.gmail.com>

Are you aware of GOLF? [1]

It is about getting to a "higher orbit, whether LEO, MEO, HEO, or
GEO." It sounds like it has a lot of challenges, but this is already a
goal AMSAT has declared.

I am assuming HEO or GEO would require a more challenging setup.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

1) https://www.amsat.org/greater-orbit-larger-footprint-an-introduction-to-the-amsat-golf-program/


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 4:23 PM Michael via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Just from the outside looking in...
>
> AMSAT APPEARS only to be interested in hoisting flying repeaters and
> PACSAT/APRS and showing the average ham how "easy" it is to work sats
> with a handheld and a simple antenna. I guess that's all well and good
> but I didn't get in the sat end of the hobby for "easy".  I wanted a new
> challenge. I was too late for A0-40 because of lack of funds for a
> station but I did have fun for awhile chasing AO-51, FO-29, AO-7 etc.
> with a TS-2000X and a homebrew rotator and antenna system.
> Unfortunately, life got in the way and I needed family funds so the
> Kenwood hit Ebay and I'm inactive on the birds now. I sometimes consider
> buying a couple of Baofengs (you should ALWAYS operate full duplex but
> that's another thread) and getting back in on the cheap, I even recently
> bought a beat up old telescope with a computer tracking tripod system I
> spotted at Goodwill, but honestly, the challenge isn't there to give me
> motivation.
>
> Before everyone flames me, as I said, this is from the outside looking
> in and just one man's opinion. I really wish AMSAT would do something,
> anything, to change my perception. Seems to me I saw something about a
> YL running for the board who's interested in open sourcing stuff.  Her
> candidate statement was IMHO, a much needed breath of fresh air but I'm
> no longer a member and don't keep up so no idea if she got elected. If
> AMSAT wants my membership and donation dollars back, they need to change
> perception and I suspect there are many out here in the community who
> feel the way I do.
>
> 73,
>
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
>
> >>   Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough
> >> (or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
> >> breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical
> >> (presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive)
> >> bird into orbit and manage it.
> >>
> >> If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark"
> >> next to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and
> >> "needs sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
> >>
> >> Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")?
> >> Let's play it out here!
> >> Ev, W2EV
> >>
> >>      On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>   On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >>> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
> >>
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From jplanner at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 31 22:27:32 2019
From: jplanner at sbcglobal.net (Gerald Witalec)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 22:27:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT'S Cost for Launching the SATS
References: <261709725.546228.1564612052371.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <261709725.546228.1564612052371@mail.yahoo.com>

Just curious. It seems as though it is getting difficult about placing he ham SATS dueto cost. I wonder what may happen if the cost is so prohibitive that AMSAT could 
possibly go by the way side. Just asking.
Jerry

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jul 31 23:06:48 2019
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:06:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT'S Cost for Launching the SATS
In-Reply-To: <261709725.546228.1564612052371@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <261709725.546228.1564612052371.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<261709725.546228.1564612052371@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpt+VBFQq2hDpKEaXbixF7xVH1rr1kS1f3S+S=vvktagQ@mail.gmail.com>

Over 20 years ago, Bill Tynan wrote an Apogee View column where he
discussed he possibility of AMSAT not being able to launch satellites in
the future. Yet here we are with plenty of opportunities for launches and
ham payloads.

Orbital debris regulations and costs already make it a much different
environment and we might not have the opportunity to launch 25 kg - 150 kg
satellites today or an easy path to the orbits we would like. We may find
further restrictions on the size of satellites we can finance or the orbits
we can go to, but with the proliferation of small launch providers, I
certainly don?t see us lacking opportunities over the next 10-20 years.

Rest assured that AMSAT?s directors and officers are  100% committed to
maintaining and expanding our relationships with government space agencies,
the university community, the space industry, and national and
international regulators to ensure that amateur radio remains in space.
We?ve been there since 4 years after Sputnik was launched. Before OSCAR I,
space was the exclusive domain of national governments. Amateurs opened it
up and helped to democratize space. We intend to stay there.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:47 Gerald Witalec via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Just curious. It seems as though it is getting difficult about placing he
> ham SATS dueto cost. I wonder what may happen if the cost is so prohibitive
> that AMSAT could
> possibly go by the way side. Just asking.
> Jerry
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