[amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs

Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.edu
Sun Jul 14 23:43:10 UTC 2019


yes, network stays APRS.  Path is ARISS

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:08 PM Fred Hillhouse via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> That is good to know!
>
> In the radio there are two settings; Network and Packet Path.
>
> Does the "Network" stay "APRS"? Or should it be set to "ARISS"?
> I assume the Packet Path becomes "ARISS" or "APRSAT". Correct?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
> Fred N7FMH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Bruninga via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:26 PM
> To: KE6BLR Robert; amsat bb
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
>
> Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
> RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
> if it went via one of those.  Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
> rule.  If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
> previous field.
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> > (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
> >
> > For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> > digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT
> there
> > is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
> >
> > http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
> >
> > See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> > soon.
> >
> > As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As
> the
> > user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> > convenient.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > >  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> > ARISS
> > > or APRSAT paths.
> > >
> > > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least
> there
> > > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> > it
> > > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> > >
> > > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> > but
> > > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode
> and
> > > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't
> know
> > if
> > > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> > >
> > > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> > >
> > >     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you
> are
> > > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That
> means
> > > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > > qualifier I have missed?
> > >
> > > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> > >
> > > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB
> PSK31
> > > User Station Software Configuration:
> > > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler
> on
> > > the uplink.
> > >
> > > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT
> (D72)
> > > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a
> satellite
> > is
> > > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> > information
> > > out.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Fred N7FMH
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
> > > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> > >
> > >  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> > at
> > > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want
> to
> > > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> > >
> > > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> > >
> > >
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