[amsat-bb] suitable omni antenna for FM sats?

[Bob Hammond]

I started with an Icom Z1A and a handheld Arrow antenna on my deck in
Fairbanks, AK  (BP64).  Even in the cold.  Good contacts to the Pacific
NW.....and a guy in Deadhorse.  I printed out the passes for the week and
got on the air at the appropriate times and dates.

Pretty straightforward.

On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 1:42 PM Stephen E. Belter via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Thanks for sending them the Getting Started With Amateur Satellites book.
>
> Chapter 4, Your Antenna System covers both omni and directional antennas.
> There is additional information in Appendix B, Upgrading Your Antenna
> System.
>
> For grid DP79, I’d look hard at a dual band Yagi with a fixed elevation
> (maybe 10-20 degrees) with an azimuth rotor, *if* a handheld antenna isn’t
> practical.
>
> I’ve operated satellites with a standard Arrow Antenna from
> BP40/50-53/61/64/83 and CP04/20/30/40.  Not quite as far north as DP79, but
> still a fair distance from the lower 48 states.
>
> 73, Steve N9IP
> --
> Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com
>
>
> > On May 11, 2019, at 4:13 PM, John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > Everything Jeff days is true.  But some of us live in covenant
> restricted settings and an omni is much easier to sneak in under the
> radar.  I have switched back and forth between eggbeaters and various
> verticals.  So far 88 grids.  Three points:
> >
> > 1) Pay attention to ERP.  You are going to need a little more uplink
> power to make up for the lack of Tx antenna gain.
> > 2) Always, always use a preamp at the antenna on 435 down links
> > 3) Be patient.  This is a compromise solution and you are not going to
> knock them down every pass.
> >
> > If it is all you can do go ahead.  Better to be on the air working the
> birds as best you can than doing nothing at all.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
> >> On May 11, 2019 00:34, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> As was stated multiple times in a very recent thread - omnis for sat
> work
> >> are a poor compromise!!    Even a small beam at a 15-degree angle will
> >> generally blow most omnis off the roof! Even better would be a pair of
> >> beams (one for uplink, one for downlink) on an azimuth/elevation rotor!
> >> But handheld can work almost as good!!
> >>
> >> 7   3
> >> Jeff Moore   ---   KE7ACY
> >> CN94
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 10:08 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>     We have a newly licenced amateur in DP79.  Because they fell a few
> >>> points of getting their Basic with Honours they do not have HF
> >>> privileges, their only way to communicate with the outside world is
> via
> >>> satellite.  Anticipating this possible outcome, that they may not get
> >>> access to the HF bands, I sent them a hard copy, (no home internet,
> and
> >>> its slow and expensive there if you do have it), of the current copy
> of
> >>> "Getting Started with Amateur Satellites".  As we're heading into the
> >>> time of year to do any outside work, the most pressing question is
> what
> >>> is the best compromise antenna for a base station.   Keeping in mind
> >>> their location, in order to work anyone they'll have to get into the
> >>> satellites while the satellite is close to their horizon, otherwise
> the
> >>> satellite footprint will not cover areas with any satellite operators.
> >>>
> >>>     Ron VE8RT in DP22
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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