From marklhammond at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 01:58:45 2020
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:58:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in L/v at 0157z for 24 hours 1 April 2020
Message-ID: <20200401015846.CC159874D@lansing182.amsat.org>

No foolin'!

73,


Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH] 


From w7lrd at comcast.net  Wed Apr  1 05:22:16 2020
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in L/v at 0157z for 24 hours 1 April 2020
In-Reply-To: <20200401015846.CC159874D@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <20200401015846.CC159874D@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <810514520.178616.1585718537191@connect.xfinity.com>

Any L band west coasters will try at 0638Z.  Testing out a new L band antenna (24el looper 10W)- stuck at home.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle

> On March 31, 2020 at 6:58 PM "Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> No foolin'!
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH] 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Wed Apr  1 15:30:14 2020
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 10:30:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings for April 2020
Message-ID: <00cb01d6083a$71223180$53669480$@w5rkn.com>

VUCC Awards-Endorsements for April 2020

 

Happy April Fools Day.  Happy Birthday to me!

 

A lot of roves are being canceled as travel is more difficult.

 

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the 

ARRL for the period March 1, 2020 through April 1, 2020. 

Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! 

 

CALL                      Mar        Apr

 

N3GS                     624         652

K9UO                    550         565

KK4YEL                  413         504

G0ABI                   453         454

KB2YSI                  101         450

AD0HJ                   405         425

N7EGY                  351         405

KC9VGG               228         310

N9FN                     207         303

PT9BM                  225         255

KC9UQR               240         252

WA9JBQ               175         225

W4ZXT                  150         202

K5ZM                    135         179

WD9EWK (DM41)            148         164

WD9EWK (DM22)            131         150

N4QX                    125         138

XE2YWH               102         137

EA2AA                  101         125

IZ1ERR                  New      112

N7JY                      New      106

KE4BKL                 New      101

AA7WB                 New      100

DP0GVN              New      100

 

 

If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at

<mycall>@<mycall>.com and I'll revise the announcement. 

This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings 

for the two months. It's a visual comparison so omissions 

are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. 

Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely 

on the birds. They are doing much of the work! 

 

Ron W5RKN


From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Wed Apr  1 15:38:31 2020
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 10:38:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings formatting
Message-ID: <00de01d6083b$992882f0$cb7988d0$@w5rkn.com>

I'm sorry about the formatting of the standings. I've been searching for the
magic bullet to list columns of data neatly, but the trial this month turned
out really bad. If anyone knows the secret, please let me know,

Ron W5RKN


From ingejack at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 16:57:05 2020
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:57:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
Message-ID: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>

Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in ?  I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have no idea..

Thanks  JACK KC7MG

From jplanner at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  1 16:59:18 2020
From: jplanner at sbcglobal.net (Gerald Witalec)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 16:59:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] M-2 SAT Pack #1
References: <1152501384.386920.1585760358483.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1152501384.386920.1585760358483@mail.yahoo.com>

Has anyone used this eggbeater antenna from M-2 company with great results to track the SATS? 

Jerry...W8RQM

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Apr  1 17:07:33 2020
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 13:07:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
References: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqe_JEAz--KSMcb+F8oOB=Hme0uXoGqvPOMQm8+xrmALg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I have one and Maidenhead is an option.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:57 PM alex weimer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in
> ?  I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have
> no idea..
>
> Thanks  JACK KC7MG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From ka3hsw at att.net  Wed Apr  1 17:12:32 2020
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:12:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] M-2 SAT Pack #1
In-Reply-To: <1152501384.386920.1585760358483@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1152501384.386920.1585760358483.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1152501384.386920.1585760358483@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E68D914F48EC4DB89E4C508EBECC1E96@RadioRoomPC>

I've made many contacts on the LEO birds with one, but it can be quite a
struggle.  I do much better with an Elk log-periodic or with the Gulf-Alpha
circularly-polarized antennas that I use for Field Day and other demos.



George, KA3HSW

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
Witalec via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 11:59 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] M-2 SAT Pack #1

Has anyone used this eggbeater antenna from M-2 company with great results
to track the SATS? 

Jerry...W8RQM


From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 17:26:26 2020
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 10:26:26 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
References: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <452cd282-d997-4562-4ca4-48e1d4f1a802@gmail.com>

It appears to be under Setup / Units.  See
http://www.n7cfo.com/vhf/gps/~gps.htm

Verified on my eTrex Vista.

Greg  KO6TH


alex weimer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in ?  I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have no idea..
>
> Thanks  JACK KC7MG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From mchambers at showmeham.info  Wed Apr  1 18:40:34 2020
From: mchambers at showmeham.info (Matthew Chambers)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 13:40:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings formatting
In-Reply-To: <00de01d6083b$992882f0$cb7988d0$@w5rkn.com>
References: <00de01d6083b$992882f0$cb7988d0$@w5rkn.com>
Message-ID: <CA+0ZtTbrcAVEkM5grUT56G0J5gLbHUUvwJU2=Vx4Jh0f9LiWBw@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe type it up in a word processor in a table and copy that to your email
client? Another idea and this is what my local club does for anything that
we want "pretty" formatting on something. Is attach it as a PDF to the
email and have a minimal blurb that says go read the attached PDF.

Not sure if PDF's would make it across the email reflector, might be a sign
that it's started falling behind with the current state of tech. This is
the only one that I belong to that blows up on embedded HTML and images.
Most have moved to Groups.IO.

Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
Owner/Engineer
*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
Mobile (660)415-5620
www.mchambersradio.com



On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ronald Parsons via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I'm sorry about the formatting of the standings. I've been searching for
> the
> magic bullet to list columns of data neatly, but the trial this month
> turned
> out really bad. If anyone knows the secret, please let me know,
>
> Ron W5RKN
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Wed Apr  1 19:04:06 2020
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 14:04:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test - ignore
Message-ID: <024501d60858$5147e9e0$f3d7bda0$@w5rkn.com>

Now is the time for .

 


Title

ABC

DEF


_____

______

_____


KLM

123

566


NOP

987

6542

 

. all good men.

 

Sig


From royldean at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 19:11:52 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:11:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tab Delimited Test
Message-ID: <CADGPg2srHUqNORzi0RwGMciDTMP1Tys2_6wfASq5JCv0+uV_jQ@mail.gmail.com>

W4ZXT 150 202
K5ZM 135 179
WD9EWK 148 164
N4QX 125 150

I suspect that this wont work because gmail is not allowing me to
insert tab delimited data.   It's inserting it as space delimited.  :(

--Roy
K3RLD

From ingejack at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 19:33:32 2020
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:33:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqe_JEAz--KSMcb+F8oOB=Hme0uXoGqvPOMQm8+xrmALg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
	<CABzOSOqe_JEAz--KSMcb+F8oOB=Hme0uXoGqvPOMQm8+xrmALg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1271846163.263213.1585769612635@myemail.cox.net>


> On April 1, 2020 at 10:07 AM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
>     Yes, I have one and Maidenhead is an option.
> 
>     73,
> 
>     Paul, N8HM
> 
>     On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:57 PM alex weimer via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org > wrote:
> 
>         > > Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in ?  I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have no idea..
> > 
> >         Thanks  JACK KC7MG
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >         to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >         are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >         Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >         Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > 
> >     > 

From ingejack at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 19:33:37 2020
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:33:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqe_JEAz--KSMcb+F8oOB=Hme0uXoGqvPOMQm8+xrmALg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
	<CABzOSOqe_JEAz--KSMcb+F8oOB=Hme0uXoGqvPOMQm8+xrmALg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <795975530.263216.1585769617679@myemail.cox.net>

Thanks Paul: I want to get started on a bit of roving here and need a gps with the Maidenhead grids. Thanks Again 73 JACK KC7MG


> On April 1, 2020 at 10:07 AM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
>     Yes, I have one and Maidenhead is an option.
> 
>     73,
> 
>     Paul, N8HM
> 
>     On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:57 PM alex weimer via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org > wrote:
> 
>         > > Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in ?  I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have no idea..
> > 
> >         Thanks  JACK KC7MG
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >         to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >         are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >         Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >         Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > 
> >     > 
 

From ingejack at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 19:38:58 2020
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:38:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <452cd282-d997-4562-4ca4-48e1d4f1a802@gmail.com>
References: <1535972167.257714.1585760225077@myemail.cox.net>
	<452cd282-d997-4562-4ca4-48e1d4f1a802@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1355739150.263394.1585769938591@myemail.cox.net>

Yes I just got it confirmed by WD9EWK Thanks very much 73 Jack Kc7mg

> On April 1, 2020 at 10:26 AM Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> 
>     It appears to be under Setup / Units. See
>     http://www.n7cfo.com/vhf/gps/~gps.htm
> 
>     Verified on my eTrex Vista.
> 
>     Greg KO6TH
> 
> 
>     alex weimer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> 
>         > > Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in ? I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have no idea..
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > Thanks JACK KC7MG
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >         to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >         are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >         Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >         Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > 
> >     > 

From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 19:38:53 2020
From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan al-Basri)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 14:38:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] M-2 SAT Pack #1
In-Reply-To: <E68D914F48EC4DB89E4C508EBECC1E96@RadioRoomPC>
References: <1152501384.386920.1585760358483.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1152501384.386920.1585760358483@mail.yahoo.com>
	<E68D914F48EC4DB89E4C508EBECC1E96@RadioRoomPC>
Message-ID: <CAM4UQf31=_VmL3TBNn9=rOKAO8veReFHMYvtKu6_p0MUURJwvg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jerry,
I have a pair of the M2 EggBeaters in the back yard at a height of 7'.
If they have a clear view of the horizon (esp the 70cm uplink), they can do
pretty well, but you are much better off with a pair of small yagis.

For any antenna on 70cm, if you have to shoot through houses or even worse,
vegetation, your signal will just get destroyed. The difference here
between summer and winter is gigantic.

However, even with no foliage, they can never rival a small yagi.

If you are serious about working satellites, I would recommend a pair of
small yagis and a cheap TV rotor. Don't worry about Elevation rotors, they
are completely unnecessary for the current batch of LEO (Low-Earth-Orbit)
birds like AO-91/92, AO-73, CAS-4A/4B and XW-2A/2B/2D,2F (the last two
being linear birds for SSB and CW)

Mount your two small yagis at a fixed elevation of 15 degrees (per WB4APR's
superb recommendation). Then just control your azimuth. If you want to get
fancy, then get a rotor that can be controlled by computer.

I am using an EAntenna which is an interlaced yagi (two yagis on the same
boom, elements in the same plane), fed with one coax. It is 5 EL on 2m and
8 EL on 70cm. Gain is about 10 dBi on both bands, which is more than
sufficient.
Do not get large antennas, they will not be easily pointed and you will
have too narrow a pattern to drop not need the elevation rotor. My EAntenna
is only about 4.5 feet long! No real load on a rotor.

For the amount of money you are going to have to pay for a pair of M2
Eggbeaters, you can get the yagi I mentioned (DXEngineering carries them)
AND a rotator, and you will have a much better signal.

The M2 EB's that I have are useful for polarity changes (instantaneous) in
the winter. In the summer they are only useful at high Elevations and even
then for a very brief time. They work, they are decent, but they are not
anywhere nearly as good as a pair of small yagis....and, if purchased new,
they are very expensive for their performance level.

If you do go the yagi route, it makes no difference whether you mount the
antennas vertically polarized or horizontally polarized. If you intend to
use them for local FM repeater use, the mount them vertically (or for APRS
on 2m for example). If you are going to use them for SSB work on 2 and 70
cm, then mount them horizontally polarized.

73, N0AN
Hasan


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:15 PM George Henry via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I've made many contacts on the LEO birds with one, but it can be quite a
> struggle.  I do much better with an Elk log-periodic or with the Gulf-Alpha
> circularly-polarized antennas that I use for Field Day and other demos.
>
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
> Witalec via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 11:59 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] M-2 SAT Pack #1
>
> Has anyone used this eggbeater antenna from M-2 company with great results
> to track the SATS?
>
> Jerry...W8RQM
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From saguaroastro at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 22:17:15 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:17:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <1355739150.263394.1585769938591@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20200401221731.5DBE681FB@lansing182.amsat.org>

One note. I had tried to set up two fields , one with lat-lon the other maidenhead. The trouble they options are for location, so though you can select the fiels twice it will be one or the other format. My solution was to use my back up unit and have one ste for each. Clunky, but it worked.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: alex weimer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 4/1/20  12:48  (GMT-07:00) To: Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ?? Yes I just got it confirmed by WD9EWK Thanks very much 73 Jack Kc7mg> On April 1, 2020 at 10:26 AM Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com > wrote:> > >???? It appears to be under Setup / Units. See>???? http://www.n7cfo.com/vhf/gps/~gps.htm> >???? Verified on my eTrex Vista.> >???? Greg KO6TH> > >???? alex weimer via AMSAT-BB wrote:> >???????? > > Does anyone know if the Garmin Etrex10 GPS has Maidenhead grids built in ? I cannot find any info and when I call Garmin the people I talk do have no idea..> > > >???? > >???????? > > Thanks JACK KC7MG> >???????? _______________________________________________> >???????? Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> >???????? to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed> >???????? are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.> >???????? Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> >???????? Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > > >???? > _______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From saguaroastro at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 22:25:23 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:25:23 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in L/v at 0157z for 24 hours 1 April 2020
In-Reply-To: <810514520.178616.1585718537191@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <20200401222530.F0FF98235@lansing182.amsat.org>

I was hoping to get on, but got busy with work. Next week?73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 3/31/20  22:22  (GMT-07:00) To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond at gmail.com>, "Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in L/v at 0157z for 24 hours 1 April 2020 Any L band west coasters will try at 0638Z.? Testing out a new L band antenna (24el looper 10W)- stuck at home.73 Bob W7LRDSeattle> On March 31, 2020 at 6:58 PM "Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:> > > No foolin'!> > 73,> > > Mark L. Hammond? [N8MH] > > _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Apr  1 22:32:08 2020
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 22:32:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <20200401221731.5DBE681FB@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <1355739150.263394.1585769938591@myemail.cox.net>
	<20200401221731.5DBE681FB@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfeLPKY1Yjm96YaroLpq5GqvDM2aF=CC-ED+RvtW0J2Ag@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

On the newer Garmin eTrex receivers, you can make use of the Trip
Computer function to display both latitude/longitude and Maidenhead
grid locator. That function also allows a third bit of data to be
displayed, and I put the Accuracy figure on there. Then I can take
a picture of the GPS display, see my location in two formats, and
ensure that the accuracy is within the 20-foot limit as specified
in ARRL's VUCC rules. Someone told me about this a few years ago,
and I have used that with my eTrex 20 and eTrex 20X receivers since
then. You have to set the default position format as "Maidenhead",
in order to get that and latitude/longitude on the Trip Computer.

I have a PDF in my Dropbox space http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ (look
in folder "Garmin_eTrex") that explains how I set this up. I have
also sent a copy of this directly to KC7MG, to answer his original
question.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:19 PM saguaroastro via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> One note. I had tried to set up two fields , one with lat-lon the other
> maidenhead. The trouble they options are for location, so though you can
> select the fiels twice it will be one or the other format. My solution was
> to use my back up unit and have one ste for each. Clunky, but it
> worked.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
>

From mchambers at showmeham.info  Wed Apr  1 22:33:30 2020
From: mchambers at showmeham.info (Matthew Chambers)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 17:33:30 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings formatting
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnCFcUhE3axt+BoA6hdo39SQCDh3FoTA-mEPRsgcXSd9qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00de01d6083b$992882f0$cb7988d0$@w5rkn.com>
	<CA+0ZtTbrcAVEkM5grUT56G0J5gLbHUUvwJU2=Vx4Jh0f9LiWBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHKCqnCFcUhE3axt+BoA6hdo39SQCDh3FoTA-mEPRsgcXSd9qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+0ZtTZmspR54yjyutB4KFap4VfGXdJu1=fPvBP-peueimq8Rg@mail.gmail.com>

That might be a problem as my email client doesn't have a plain text mode,
all emails are HTML with no user changeable settings. I could make all my
emails plain text but then it would be server wide for me and anyone else
on the domain. And it would wipe out everyone's signature files which would
have to be remade in plain text. I just wonder why the email list can't
grow with the rest of the internet?

Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
Owner/Engineer
*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
Mobile (660)415-5620
www.mchambersradio.com



On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:02 PM Mark D. Johns <mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu> wrote:

> The reflector will not take attachments. But do make sure you set the
> email client into "Plain text" mode before you put the data into it.
> --
> Mark D. Johns, K?JM
> AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
> Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
> -----------------------------------------------
> "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
>    you would stay out and your dog would go in."
>     ---Mark Twain
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:41 PM Matthew Chambers via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe type it up in a word processor in a table and copy that to your
> email
> > client? Another idea and this is what my local club does for anything
> that
> > we want "pretty" formatting on something. Is attach it as a PDF to the
> > email and have a minimal blurb that says go read the attached PDF.
> >
> > Not sure if PDF's would make it across the email reflector, might be a
> sign
> > that it's started falling behind with the current state of tech. This is
> > the only one that I belong to that blows up on embedded HTML and images.
> > Most have moved to Groups.IO.
> >
> > Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
> > Owner/Engineer
> > *M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
> > PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
> > Mobile (660)415-5620
> > www.mchambersradio.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ronald Parsons via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sorry about the formatting of the standings. I've been searching
> for
> > > the
> > > magic bullet to list columns of data neatly, but the trial this month
> > > turned
> > > out really bad. If anyone knows the secret, please let me know,
> > >
> > > Ron W5RKN
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From saguaroastro at cox.net  Wed Apr  1 22:50:30 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:50:30 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ??
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUfeLPKY1Yjm96YaroLpq5GqvDM2aF=CC-ED+RvtW0J2Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200401225034.B43CF7F18@lansing182.amsat.org>

Patrick, thanks, I'll check it out.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> Date: 4/1/20  15:32  (GMT-07:00) To: saguaroastro <saguaroastro at cox.net>, AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX10 maidenhead grids ?? Rick, On the newer Garmin eTrex receivers, you can make use of the TripComputer function to display both latitude/longitude and Maidenheadgrid locator. That function also allows a third bit of data to be displayed, and I put the Accuracy figure on there. Then I can takea picture of the GPS display, see my location in two formats, and ensure that the accuracy is within the 20-foot limit as specified in ARRL's VUCC rules. Someone told me about this a few years ago,and I have used that with my eTrex 20 and eTrex 20X receivers sincethen. You have to set the default position format as "Maidenhead",in order to get that and latitude/longitude on the Trip Computer. I have a PDF in my Dropbox space http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ (lookin folder "Garmin_eTrex") that explains how I set this up. I havealso sent a copy of this directly to KC7MG, to answer his originalquestion. 73!Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWKOn Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:19 PM saguaroastro via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:One note. I had tried to set up two fields , one with lat-lon the other maidenhead. The trouble they options are for location, so though you can select the fiels twice it will be one or the other format. My solution was to use my back up unit and have one ste for each. Clunky, but it worked.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)


From ki6wj at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  1 22:51:46 2020
From: ki6wj at yahoo.com (James Brown)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 22:51:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] rotator controllers available
References: <573396827.636623.1585781506186.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <573396827.636623.1585781506186@mail.yahoo.com>

I have two Fox Delta ST-2 rotator interfaces avilable. These are good working units and be great for new station set ups. I ran a G5500 rotor and satpc32 with one. The other is new spare. Google Fox Delta? for details.
Jim KI6WJ

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Wed Apr  1 23:47:41 2020
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:47:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test - Please ignore
Message-ID: <038b01d6087f$ef0ca360$cd25ea20$@w5rkn.com>

QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNMqwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

1234567890         1234567890         12345    67890

QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNMqwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

1234567890         1234567890         12345    67890

 

QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNMqwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

1234567890 1234567890 12345 67890

 

QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNMqwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

1234567890 1234567890 12345 67890

 

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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Thu Apr  2 01:09:47 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 20:09:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings formatting
In-Reply-To: <CA+0ZtTZmspR54yjyutB4KFap4VfGXdJu1=fPvBP-peueimq8Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00de01d6083b$992882f0$cb7988d0$@w5rkn.com>
	<CA+0ZtTbrcAVEkM5grUT56G0J5gLbHUUvwJU2=Vx4Jh0f9LiWBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHKCqnCFcUhE3axt+BoA6hdo39SQCDh3FoTA-mEPRsgcXSd9qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+0ZtTZmspR54yjyutB4KFap4VfGXdJu1=fPvBP-peueimq8Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a75d2500-0ae4-fd47-bb8b-9cad0ffe381e@pobox.com>

On 04/01/20 17:33, Matthew Chambers via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> That might be a problem as my email client doesn't have a plain text mode,
> all emails are HTML with no user changeable settings. I could make all my
> emails plain text but then it would be server wide for me and anyone else
> on the domain. And it would wipe out everyone's signature files which would
> have to be remade in plain text. I just wonder why the email list can't
> grow with the rest of the internet?
> 
> Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
> Owner/Engineer
> *M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
> PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
> Mobile (660)415-5620
> www.mchambersradio.com

One also might ask why some email users need 6 lines of signature, 
nearly exceeding the number of lines in the body of the message 
containing useful content.

:-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Thu Apr  2 01:17:40 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 19:17:40 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] VE8RT on AO91 earlier today
Message-ID: <20200401191740.e77cf935c421fb8640238ba7@yknwt.ca>

  No it wasn't an April fools day prank, I was on AO91 for a few
minutes (before the footprint was too far north) and worked a few
stations.  It was to be a demonstration of amateur satellite
communications for a Canadian Broadcasting Corp locally produced
program.  Thanks to all who were on.

  As the antenna, radio, and log keeping were too much of a challenge
outdoors (temperature was about -18C or 0F with a windchill around
-27C) I used an old recorder for logging.  For the most part it worked
well, there is at least one call sign I'm having trouble picking out.
I've had some help improving the quality, but if someone wanted a copy
of the MP3 file to try their luck at getting more out of it I'll send
them the file.  Its just over 5 min long.

  Ron VE8RT in DP22

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From w7lrd at comcast.net  Thu Apr  2 01:19:24 2020
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:19:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
Message-ID: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>

Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
73 Bob W7LRD

From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  2 01:30:01 2020
From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:30:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings formatting
In-Reply-To: <a75d2500-0ae4-fd47-bb8b-9cad0ffe381e@pobox.com>
References: <00de01d6083b$992882f0$cb7988d0$@w5rkn.com>
	<CA+0ZtTbrcAVEkM5grUT56G0J5gLbHUUvwJU2=Vx4Jh0f9LiWBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHKCqnCFcUhE3axt+BoA6hdo39SQCDh3FoTA-mEPRsgcXSd9qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+0ZtTZmspR54yjyutB4KFap4VfGXdJu1=fPvBP-peueimq8Rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<a75d2500-0ae4-fd47-bb8b-9cad0ffe381e@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <67c72990-f0ca-e6e1-3310-e7daa7d6571d@bellsouth.net>

The message from Matthew took 12911 characters.
This reply message, in ASCII text, took 9188 characters.

In email such as this HTML is bloatware and costs the end user that pays 
by the byte.

Sent via Thunderbird which allows HTML to be turned off.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

On 4/1/2020 9:09 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On 04/01/20 17:33, Matthew Chambers via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> That might be a problem as my email client doesn't have a plain text 
>> mode,
>> all emails are HTML with no user changeable settings. I could make 
>> all my
>> emails plain text but then it would be server wide for me and anyone 
>> else
>> on the domain. And it would wipe out everyone's signature files which 
>> would
>> have to be remade in plain text. I just wonder why the email list can't
>> grow with the rest of the internet?
>>
>> Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
>> Owner/Engineer
>> *M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
>> PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
>> Mobile (660)415-5620
>> www.mchambersradio.com
>
> One also might ask why some email users need 6 lines of signature, 
> nearly exceeding the number of lines in the body of the message 
> containing useful content.
>
> :-)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Glenn Little                ARRL Technical Specialist   QCWA  LM 28417
Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            wb4uiv at arrl.net    AMSAT LM 2178
QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI LM   NRA LM   SBE ARRL TAPR
"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
of the Amateur that holds the license"


From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 01:35:43 2020
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:35:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Standings formatting
In-Reply-To: <a75d2500-0ae4-fd47-bb8b-9cad0ffe381e@pobox.com>
References: <a75d2500-0ae4-fd47-bb8b-9cad0ffe381e@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <FD6B265B-2CDF-4D00-BCD6-079DD55ABE57@gmail.com>

I?ll keep my suggestion short and my signature shorter. Ron, have you tried this? https://onlinetexttools.com/convert-text-to-nice-columns

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID 

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 21:14, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?On 04/01/20 17:33, Matthew Chambers via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> That might be a problem as my email client doesn't have a plain text mode,
>> all emails are HTML with no user changeable settings. I could make all my
>> emails plain text but then it would be server wide for me and anyone else
>> on the domain. And it would wipe out everyone's signature files which would
>> have to be remade in plain text. I just wonder why the email list can't
>> grow with the rest of the internet?
>> Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
>> Owner/Engineer
>> *M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
>> PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
>> Mobile (660)415-5620
>> www.mchambersradio.com
> 
> One also might ask why some email users need 6 lines of signature, nearly exceeding the number of lines in the body of the message containing useful content.
> 
> :-)
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From ny4i at ny4i.com  Thu Apr  2 01:36:55 2020
From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:36:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <3750DCEB-7984-4884-9D49-210EA96E9D70@ny4i.com>

SatSat https://apps.apple.com/us/app/satsat/id1017063968


Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)




> On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:19 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk2pet at internode.on.net  Thu Apr  2 01:41:46 2020
From: vk2pet at internode.on.net (Pete (Vk2pet))
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:41:46 +1100
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CDB562FC-E6EA-4668-948C-7402B6EBFCFD@internode.on.net>

Bob,

I use SatSat.

73

Pete
Vk2pet 



Sent from my ifail (it can be stuck to me at times) This email/message could be sent on behalf of a community organization. If you got this email/message by mistake please delete & let myself know my email, phone or sms on 0428 293 683. Regards Pete


> On 2 Apr 2020, at 12:34, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From bwilkins at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 01:48:32 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:48:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <3750DCEB-7984-4884-9D49-210EA96E9D70@ny4i.com>
References: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
	<3750DCEB-7984-4884-9D49-210EA96E9D70@ny4i.com>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq30a+dSph3=Js8i8KjGo35J6QE7iXO9soKSHeT8PQDpoGg@mail.gmail.com>

ISS Detector with the amateur satellite add on works great

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:44 PM Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> SatSat https://apps.apple.com/us/app/satsat/id1017063968
>
>
> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Blog: www.ny4i.com
> Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:19 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
> > 73 Bob W7LRD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
Brian Wilkins
KO4AQF

From kx9x at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  2 02:06:50 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:06:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
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References: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
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I swear by GoSatWatch. It?s not free, but worth every penny.

Sean, KX9X

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:34 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
> 73 Bob W7LRD
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  2 02:06:50 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:06:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <367221867.194531.1585790364737@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>

I swear by GoSatWatch. It?s not free, but worth every penny.

Sean, KX9X

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:34 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
> 73 Bob W7LRD
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From twjones85 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 02:42:20 2020
From: twjones85 at gmail.com (Tanner Jones)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:42:20 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
References: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A16A0B8E-F4A0-4D6E-AB5B-239155CE547C@gmail.com>

I?ll second what Mr. Kutzko said - GoSatWatch. It was ~$10 when I purchased it but certainly worth every penny.

73,
Tanner

W9TWJ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:07 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I swear by GoSatWatch. It?s not free, but worth every penny.
> 
> Sean, KX9X
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:34 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From pconver at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 03:09:51 2020
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 00:09:51 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <A16A0B8E-F4A0-4D6E-AB5B-239155CE547C@gmail.com>
References: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
	<A16A0B8E-F4A0-4D6E-AB5B-239155CE547C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=k+NDsaTxOS3GF8anRmfP92v7x4LNCmkr_zB3g=ZUKgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Iphone try http://amsat.org.ar/pass also shows freqs+Doppler.

Once started via Inet could run without connection.

73, lu7abf, Pedro

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 03:21:53 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 23:21:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <CANTZqK=k+NDsaTxOS3GF8anRmfP92v7x4LNCmkr_zB3g=ZUKgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
	<A16A0B8E-F4A0-4D6E-AB5B-239155CE547C@gmail.com>
	<CANTZqK=k+NDsaTxOS3GF8anRmfP92v7x4LNCmkr_zB3g=ZUKgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPRQt-dz8G2Hfi3hYmck9BSTNy+d+KOZpCnXVrJ1D7ajQ@mail.gmail.com>

I personally prefer ISS Detector cause you can set it to only show the sats
you're interested in.

Here is a table of most apps, for most platforms:

http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites

73, John Brier KG4AKV


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 23:12 Pedro Converso via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> On Iphone try http://amsat.org.ar/pass also shows freqs+Doppler.
>
> Once started via Inet could run without connection.
>
> 73, lu7abf, Pedro
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Thu Apr  2 03:36:49 2020
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 20:36:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
References: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <65CD3CBF-7E98-4DF9-9285-0F5364CF199E@kl7cn.net>

Plus 1 for GoSatWatch. 

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I swear by GoSatWatch. It?s not free, but worth every penny.
> 
> Sean, KX9X
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:34 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From DCFox at rwglaw.com  Thu Apr  2 05:08:43 2020
From: DCFox at rwglaw.com (D. Craig Fox)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 05:08:43 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] I phone
In-Reply-To: <65CD3CBF-7E98-4DF9-9285-0F5364CF199E@kl7cn.net>
References: <8FE78292-EAA1-4D6C-92DF-1179058883C7@yahoo.com>
	<65CD3CBF-7E98-4DF9-9285-0F5364CF199E@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <9a23262b78d440d3bb94dbc9dc14ae51@RWGEX1.RWG.com>

I have long used SatelliteTracker. Works great, ultra reliable. Easy to use with an Elk in one hand if I chose to be portable

Craig
N6RSX

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:37 PM
To: Sean Kutzko <kx9x at yahoo.com>
Cc: amsat-bb <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I phone

Plus 1 for GoSatWatch. 

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I swear by GoSatWatch. It?s not free, but worth every penny.
> 
> Sean, KX9X
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:34 PM, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi all- What is good app for satellite tracking for a i phone?
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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From ke4kol at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  2 12:04:46 2020
From: ke4kol at bellsouth.net (ke4kol)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:04:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satelitte Rig, IC-7900 Pros & Cons
In-Reply-To: <CAMkCmDoEMhX_m2OUiJ0t2U0E=hEcd0T1RCdz+96+hi7U1+=N_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <129203884.786056.1585519051438.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<129203884.786056.1585519051438@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAMkCmDoEMhX_m2OUiJ0t2U0E=hEcd0T1RCdz+96+hi7U1+=N_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1488790816.851391.1585829086937@mail.yahoo.com>

 Thanks for your replies.? I will sell off a couple of my radios and buy one.
Thanks again.? I appreciate it.
73s, Jim, Ke4kol

    On Monday, March 30, 2020, 10:32:20 AM EDT, Charles Reiche <charlieray at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 The only CON I can think of is the lack of 9600 baud transmit capability.
I've been enjoying mine.
N3CRT
Charles Reiche


On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 5:58 PM ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

Thinking about updating my sat station.? Any and all suggestions appreciated.
Thaks,Jim Ke4kol
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From ke4kol at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  2 12:07:04 2020
From: ke4kol at bellsouth.net (ke4kol)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:07:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satelitte Rig, IC-7900 Pros & Cons
In-Reply-To: <98738DBD-9856-4887-A573-B7491A1B67EF@yahoo.com>
References: <98738DBD-9856-4887-A573-B7491A1B67EF.ref@yahoo.com>
	<98738DBD-9856-4887-A573-B7491A1B67EF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <959769187.861842.1585829224167@mail.yahoo.com>

 Thanks for your replies.? I will sell off a couple of my radios and buy one.
Thanks again.? I appreciate it.
73s, Jim, Ke4kol


    On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 08:44:50 PM EDT, Yono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Coming from Yaesu FT-847 and Kenwood TS-2000, I like my IC-9700 very much.

73 de Yono YD0NXX

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 4:58 AM, ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 

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From corlissbs at aol.com  Thu Apr  2 13:53:00 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (BRAD SMITH)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:53:00 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] iPhone Program
References: <CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5@aol.com>

I use the HamSat app from the App Store. It is so easy. I have tried others and not been satisfied.  Brad KC9UQR 

Sent from Brad?s iPad

From propgrinder at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 14:14:46 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 07:14:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@mail.gmail.com>

I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
weight opposite the antennas.

I think I've asked this question before and if so I'm asking it again
because, well, I CRS:

How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
counterbalance?  Any issues?

Bob W7OTJ

From marklhammond at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 14:35:34 2020
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 10:35:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  iPhone Program
In-Reply-To: <CAPRXzyoz7W0sZuCnbyTN1wUJgodw3T9FXRpAKPwCbrDBXs-pzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5.ref@aol.com>
	<CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5@aol.com>
	<CAPRXzyoz7W0sZuCnbyTN1wUJgodw3T9FXRpAKPwCbrDBXs-pzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPRXzyp6iBvsAQN_A4_wMCHm3RjMrNZydQ93aFbUY5d3KZT8TA@mail.gmail.com>

For ease of use and setup (just add the satellites you want), I find SatSat
to be perfect for what I want to do; including a nice feature to add a
calendar reminder with notification!  Easy to see passes for the next week,
etc.

Try a few---use what works for you!  ;)

Mark N8MH

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:53 AM BRAD SMITH via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I use the HamSat app from the App Store. It is so easy. I have tried
> others and not been satisfied.  Brad KC9UQR
>
> Sent from Brad?s iPad
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-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]


-- 
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From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 14:42:39 2020
From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:42:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJJyj=b7PUWmU0fAYM-gzCU1q+hOJesg89m5sa5XZi8HnK=FsQ@mail.gmail.com>

I did not use a counter balance.  Instead, I mounted the antennas at their
balance point on a fiberglass cross-boom.

Rolf   NR0T
EN34it

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:16 AM Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
> fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
> weight opposite the antennas.
>
> I think I've asked this question before and if so I'm asking it again
> because, well, I CRS:
>
> How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> counterbalance?  Any issues?
>
> Bob W7OTJ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From ny4i at ny4i.com  Thu Apr  2 14:49:42 2020
From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 10:49:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] iPhone Program
In-Reply-To: <CAPRXzyp6iBvsAQN_A4_wMCHm3RjMrNZydQ93aFbUY5d3KZT8TA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5.ref@aol.com>
	<CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5@aol.com>
	<CAPRXzyoz7W0sZuCnbyTN1wUJgodw3T9FXRpAKPwCbrDBXs-pzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPRXzyp6iBvsAQN_A4_wMCHm3RjMrNZydQ93aFbUY5d3KZT8TA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8F06B862-F2A6-4F5D-8FC5-3139D8DA4CF5@ny4i.com>

Try a few is great advice. I decided one day to download and try them all?even if it cost a few bucks. 

While I agree the ability too set calendar entries is great (and that is a feature a few of them do), what I or another person like, might not work for you. Also, not every app will have all the features you want normally. For example, I would love to see a footprint in SatSat but it?s other features, make it so darn easy to use in the field, I go with that one. 


Good luck,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)




> On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> For ease of use and setup (just add the satellites you want), I find SatSat
> to be perfect for what I want to do; including a nice feature to add a
> calendar reminder with notification!  Easy to see passes for the next week,
> etc.
> 
> Try a few---use what works for you!  ;)
> 
> Mark N8MH
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:53 AM BRAD SMITH via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> I use the HamSat app from the App Store. It is so easy. I have tried
>> others and not been satisfied.  Brad KC9UQR
>> 
>> Sent from Brad?s iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> _______________________________________________
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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 15:06:05 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:06:05 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
In-Reply-To: <784c3444-a3a2-0381-7710-32ad438f1786@gmail.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@mail.gmail.com>
	<784c3444-a3a2-0381-7710-32ad438f1786@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OqH49zgp7RBeagX+a_S-wvHuFUnBuLgUb0yQ5b7uUb3qQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the quick replies M5ET, NR0T, and VE3NXK.

The M2 LEO antennas are designed to be end-mounted and M2 has no idea how
they'll perform if mid-mounted as they aren't designed for that.  Hence, my
counterbalance scheme.

Bob W7OTJ


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:01 AM Bill Booth <ve3nxk at gmail.com> wrote:

> > How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> > counterbalance?
>
> I did not balance mine in the current install.  I did move the mounting
> brackets
> on the boom when I had the A40 dish on the main boom to help with balance.
>
> Attached pic of current setup.
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Booth VE3NXK
> Sundridge ON, Canada
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>
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Thu Apr  2 15:00:42 2020
From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
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Bob Hammond asked (in part):
> I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
> fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
> weight opposite the antennas.

> How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> counterbalance?  Any issues?

I would highly recommend against using any substantial antenna arrangement on an elevation rotor without it being balanced.  If it is not balanced, you are putting far more strain on the gears and motor.  Try this to understand the difference.  Take your antenna, and hold it at one end with one hand.  Point it at the horizon.  Then rotate it so it points straight up.  Now move your hand so it is at the balance point, and repeat the demo.  Which one do think is easier?  Don't have an antenna handy, use a long piece of pipe, or conduit, or rebar, or even a stick or baseball bat.

73
-----
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org



From ny4i at ny4i.com  Thu Apr  2 15:14:22 2020
From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:14:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
Message-ID: <25A7A4C0-AFEA-4F08-B689-DDEF62C1934A@ny4i.com>

Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again about adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but I wanted to check my thinking on this?

There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink. Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that I need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline would be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts at the antenna. Plenty AO-92.

So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400 is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the rotor).

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)





From wb3csy at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 15:43:55 2020
From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:43:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
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There is no L band satellite downlink available In the US. 
Rick WB3CSY

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again about adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but I wanted to check my thinking on this?
> 
> There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink. Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that I need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline would be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts at the antenna. Plenty AO-92.
> 
> So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400 is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the rotor).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Blog: www.ny4i.com
> Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From ve3nxk at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 15:36:31 2020
From: ve3nxk at gmail.com (Bill Booth)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:36:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
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On 2020-04-02 11:06 a.m., Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Thanks for the quick replies M5ET, NR0T, and VE3NXK.

Sorry I thought those were the bigger M2 versions.  YES I would add some type of 
counterbalance to those units.

-- 
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From ingejack at cox.net  Thu Apr  2 15:48:02 2020
From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:48:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX 10 GPS
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Thanks to all who answered my request. I now have the info I needed .. Looks like it's the way to go for me . Thank you Paul and Patrick

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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 16:05:26 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:05:26 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
In-Reply-To: <25A7A4C0-AFEA-4F08-B689-DDEF62C1934A@ny4i.com>
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Tom, I use 55 feet of Belden 9913F (flex) coax from my 9700 to the WiMo
23cm helical antenna and have no issues with AO-92 contacts.
The only issue I have is to remember to decrease the power out!

Bob W7OTJ

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:16 AM Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again
> about adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but
> I wanted to check my thinking on this?
>
> There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink.
> Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that
> I need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In
> checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot
> run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline
> would be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts
> at the antenna. Plenty AO-92.
>
> So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works
> accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400
> is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the
> rotor).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Blog: www.ny4i.com
> Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 16:14:46 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:14:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
In-Reply-To: <1585839642.67424083@apps.rackspace.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1585839642.67424083@apps.rackspace.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OpjavP55rt-EXTA4MX5BYyTm5DXW7WWOE1K1m818-LMqA@mail.gmail.com>

Jim, that's the very reason I installed a counterbalance.

Everyone, my question really was based on what I'm seeing when my antennas
rotate in AZ.  Given the moment arm of the counterbalance (about 3 feet)
and 5 LB weight on the end, once the rotor stops at an azimuth, I get about
3 cycles of wobble back and forth.  It does not affect satellite signal
(beam width) but I was wondering what it was doing to my rotor gears.

On the other hand, it's been like that for over 6 months of operation with
no issues.

It could be I'm finding comfort in worrying about something ELSE at this
time....if you get my meaning.

73,

Bob W7OTJ

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:13 AM jim--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Bob Hammond asked (in part):
> > I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted
> on a
> > fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
> > weight opposite the antennas.
>
> > How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> > counterbalance?  Any issues?
>
> I would highly recommend against using any substantial antenna arrangement
> on an elevation rotor without it being balanced.  If it is not balanced,
> you are putting far more strain on the gears and motor.  Try this to
> understand the difference.  Take your antenna, and hold it at one end with
> one hand.  Point it at the horizon.  Then rotate it so it points straight
> up.  Now move your hand so it is at the balance point, and repeat the
> demo.  Which one do think is easier?  Don't have an antenna handy, use a
> long piece of pipe, or conduit, or rebar, or even a stick or baseball bat.
>
> 73
> -----
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim at k6ccc.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 16:42:16 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:42:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID: <CADGPg2tRtB-qDmENydEoKKiktf6NruHS5FRMy+hr-BsDi_LZVw@mail.gmail.com>

For what it's worth, I've been using a (prior to me owning it) well
used G5400 for the past year with end mounted M2 Leo-Pack yagis.....
with no problems at all.

My rotator is low enough that "mid mounting" the array (on a
fiberglass boom) is not possible, and counterweighting would likely
involve a large weight due to the lack of moment arm length available
off the back of the array.

If/when it fails, I'll be sure to report my findings to this group.

--Roy
K3RLD

From k9qho67622 at comcast.net  Thu Apr  2 16:44:08 2020
From: k9qho67622 at comcast.net (MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 Question
Message-ID: <500322319.915929.1585845848384@connect.xfinity.com>

My thinking has been to put it out of balance, especially with the light weight satellite antennas we use.

In a perfectly balanced system, the wind will work the gearing back and forth. In an unbalanced system, the gears will stay meshed in one direction not working the internal parts when the antennas are moving or are at rest.

It's difficult to balance a system when coax and preamps added to the rear. It's also good to have the least wind resistance when SatPC32 returns antennas to the rest position The Yaesu elevation rotors are pretty tough. 

I used an Alliance U-110 for years with no problems. Talk about out of balance, check my qrz page.

Good luck with this. It has been an interesting subject.



73,  Mike (K9QHO)




From ki6wj at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  2 16:54:17 2020
From: ki6wj at yahoo.com (James Brown)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 16:54:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxDelta trackers
References: <262488825.325910.1585846457377.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <262488825.325910.1585846457377@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Gang
Both Fox Delta trackers are committed!
Jim KI6WJ

From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc  Thu Apr  2 16:58:16 2020
From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:58:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
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	<CAKoB7OpjavP55rt-EXTA4MX5BYyTm5DXW7WWOE1K1m818-LMqA@mail.gmail.com>
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I do not have a counterbalance; I had planned to but somehow just never got
to it.  I do, however, set my "park" position to be up at 90 degrees.  Of
course that means the wind tries harder to rotate the elevation rotor, but
gravity tries less hard.

That said, I am starting to have a problem.  I think it is the feedback pot
that is getting noisy, although at first I thought I had stripped a gear.
 The pot issue should not relate to a counterweight of course!

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:27 PM Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Jim, that's the very reason I installed a counterbalance.
>
> Everyone, my question really was based on what I'm seeing when my antennas
> rotate in AZ.  Given the moment arm of the counterbalance (about 3 feet)
> and 5 LB weight on the end, once the rotor stops at an azimuth, I get about
> 3 cycles of wobble back and forth.  It does not affect satellite signal
> (beam width) but I was wondering what it was doing to my rotor gears.
>
> On the other hand, it's been like that for over 6 months of operation with
> no issues.
>
> It could be I'm finding comfort in worrying about something ELSE at this
> time....if you get my meaning.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:13 AM jim--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Bob Hammond asked (in part):
> > > I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted
> > on a
> > > fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
> > > weight opposite the antennas.
> >
> > > How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> > > counterbalance?  Any issues?
> >
> > I would highly recommend against using any substantial antenna
> arrangement
> > on an elevation rotor without it being balanced.  If it is not balanced,
> > you are putting far more strain on the gears and motor.  Try this to
> > understand the difference.  Take your antenna, and hold it at one end
> with
> > one hand.  Point it at the horizon.  Then rotate it so it points straight
> > up.  Now move your hand so it is at the balance point, and repeat the
> > demo.  Which one do think is easier?  Don't have an antenna handy, use a
> > long piece of pipe, or conduit, or rebar, or even a stick or baseball
> bat.
> >
> > 73
> > -----
> > Jim Walls - K6CCC
> > jim at k6ccc.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >
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From w7lrd at comcast.net  Thu Apr  2 17:08:38 2020
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 10:08:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
In-Reply-To: <25A7A4C0-AFEA-4F08-B689-DDEF62C1934A@ny4i.com>
References: <25A7A4C0-AFEA-4F08-B689-DDEF62C1934A@ny4i.com>
Message-ID: <722544897.201306.1585847318660@connect.xfinity.com>

Hi Tom et al-- Back in the days of AO-40 (sob sob) I built a 16 turn RHCP helix.  Several of which I sold around the country.  Currently I   am using a 24 el  looper.  I am planning to put my helix back up there (20" tilt over tower) with a relay to switch between the two antennas just of fun.  
I use 70 feet of LMR600 I could have gotten by with LMR 400 which I use on U & V. I use a IC-910 at 10W.  I have a 70W amp that's waiting for my ambition to catch up. The book Antennas by Krauss has a ton of valuable helix info. Here in W. Washington there is some local L band activity.  With mountains all around L band presents some interesting bouncing propagation. We only have one satellite (AO-92) with L band capability, and that's only once a week. I would like to see a linear bird with L band, maybe even S band down like the aforementioned AO-40 (sob sob). I'm sure others will chime in with information.  On Ebay there are a few antennas available https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=1.2+ghz+yagi&_sacat=0
I have one I have yet to try out.  ABout $50 it's cheap enough to try.  I don't know if any of us are using one of these.  At this time we all have the time to play radio <grin>.  Lots of options Tom.
73 and stay safe out there
Bob W7LRD



> On April 2, 2020 at 8:14 AM Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again about adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but I wanted to check my thinking on this?
> 
> There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink. Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that I need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline would be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts at the antenna. Plenty AO-92.
> 
> So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400 is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the rotor).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Blog: www.ny4i.com
> Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 18:27:09 2020
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:27:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
Message-ID: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>

I  hope the group doesn't mind a non-ham question since we're all trying to help our communities in this difficult time.

Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the first order of business is finding some hardware.

As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've been asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for short-range broadcasting to car radios.

Interested in commercial products only; thanks but not something I want to build & be responsible for maintaining.

Thanks very much a good wishes to all.

-Scott,  K4KDR

From mchambers at showmeham.info  Thu Apr  2 18:47:36 2020
From: mchambers at showmeham.info (Matthew Chambers)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 13:47:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <CA+0ZtTYVFwyh_Z3UrL0OOhUq5vyWCczJuq-8zwhH4ZNEkKKZUg@mail.gmail.com>

There has been lots of talk about this on several of the broadcast forums
too (such as Christian Radio Tech "CR-TECH"). Most are looking for ways to
meet Part 15 requirements, such as running into "leaky" coax with a dummy
load.
As far as supply, there might be some engineers in the CR-Tech forum that
can help source equipment from Christian broadcasters. You can find them at
http://crtech.org/ or at groups.io.

None of the radio stations that I'm engineering for currently have any
spare transmitters, And anything we'd have would be a bit on the hefty side
with no way to practically ship them very far.

Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
Owner/Engineer
*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
Mobile (660)415-5620
www.mchambersradio.com



On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:29 PM Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I  hope the group doesn't mind a non-ham question since we're all trying
> to help our communities in this difficult time.
>
> Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the
> commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the
> first order of business is finding some hardware.
>
> As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've been
> asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for
> short-range broadcasting to car radios.
>
> Interested in commercial products only; thanks but not something I want to
> build & be responsible for maintaining.
>
> Thanks very much a good wishes to all.
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From larry.howell.47 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 18:42:38 2020
From: larry.howell.47 at gmail.com (Larry Howell)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:42:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
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Hi Scott,

This one may be what you're looking for:
https://www.amazon.com/Retekess-Portable-Transmitter-Broadcast-Translation/dp/B06XZ7W4WQ

72/73...  Larry AC8YE

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 2:28 PM Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I  hope the group doesn't mind a non-ham question since we're all trying
> to help our communities in this difficult time.
>
> Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the
> commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the
> first order of business is finding some hardware.
>
> As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've been
> asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for
> short-range broadcasting to car radios.
>
> Interested in commercial products only; thanks but not something I want to
> build & be responsible for maintaining.
>
> Thanks very much a good wishes to all.
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From mchambers at showmeham.info  Thu Apr  2 18:59:44 2020
From: mchambers at showmeham.info (Matthew Chambers)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 13:59:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <CAMiRMkKX45gX6CybAPj1VV41mbjjoZSKCP1Gz_o9q6npy5_aXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
	<CAMiRMkKX45gX6CybAPj1VV41mbjjoZSKCP1Gz_o9q6npy5_aXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+0ZtTZLSaNKtHUR2uQZryPyT_pU-ckxNQq=-xrHV2mrjgav3Q@mail.gmail.com>

I've also used this one before too, Rolls makes nice pro-level stuff that
won't drain the purse.
https://www.probroadcastsupply.com/rolls-hr70-fm-digital-transmitter-hr70/

Also the link that Larry sent looks good too. (good catch Larry AC8YE!)

Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
Owner/Engineer
*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
Mobile (660)415-5620
www.mchambersradio.com



On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:57 PM Larry Howell via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> This one may be what you're looking for:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Retekess-Portable-Transmitter-Broadcast-Translation/dp/B06XZ7W4WQ
>
> 72/73...  Larry AC8YE
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 2:28 PM Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I  hope the group doesn't mind a non-ham question since we're all trying
> > to help our communities in this difficult time.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the
> > commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the
> > first order of business is finding some hardware.
> >
> > As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've
> been
> > asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for
> > short-range broadcasting to car radios.
> >
> > Interested in commercial products only; thanks but not something I want
> to
> > build & be responsible for maintaining.
> >
> > Thanks very much a good wishes to all.
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Apr  2 19:16:54 2020
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 15:16:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNJZRnFgt5zOx7gnr_5s-gCtyzGkSroYvcoxMgoHnSPezQ@mail.gmail.com>

A fair question.  I've been considering something like that for my wife's
church (outdoor seating very widely spaced)...

But then we realized it went against another of our goals... that is,
saving emissions.  I have helped our church install solar for all its
energy and installed 5 EV charging stations in the parking lot and now at
least 1/4 of our members drive plugins.

The problem is that the emissions from 60 people driving to services on
Sunday is much more than the entire energy of the church itself!  So the
consensus was to stay put and use on-line meeting.

In earlier times we had plotted where all the members live and it turns out
that there are 3 major groupings (due to rivers and bays).  Were we to
"broadcast" as suggested, one could set up three such short range
transmtters in those three clusters and then people would only have to
drive to a home in their local cluster instead of across the bridge and all
to the same place.

Just thinking out loud.

bob


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I  hope the group doesn't mind a non-ham question since we're all trying
> to help our communities in this difficult time.
>
> Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the
> commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the
> first order of business is finding some hardware.
>
> As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've been
> asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for
> short-range broadcasting to car radios.
>
> Interested in commercial products only; thanks but not something I want to
> build & be responsible for maintaining.
>
> Thanks very much a good wishes to all.
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 19:54:04 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 15:54:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNJZRnFgt5zOx7gnr_5s-gCtyzGkSroYvcoxMgoHnSPezQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
	<CALdCfNJZRnFgt5zOx7gnr_5s-gCtyzGkSroYvcoxMgoHnSPezQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO994XijXAQNRwC9DcYRB3UWq_QQM3eZZ-NHF30V2RpSA@mail.gmail.com>

Generically LPFM could mean something like a part 15 transmitter that would
work for cars in a parking lot, but the term is also a specific FCC license
class up to 100 watts ERP.

For the FCC's LPFM there is not a filing window to get a
license/construction permit and the last one was in 2013.

But maybe we can get Congress to get the FCC to create a new one due to
this crisis.

https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/lpfm#WINDOWS

73, John Brier KG4AKV


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 15:20 Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> A fair question.  I've been considering something like that for my wife's
> church (outdoor seating very widely spaced)...
>
> But then we realized it went against another of our goals... that is,
> saving emissions.  I have helped our church install solar for all its
> energy and installed 5 EV charging stations in the parking lot and now at
> least 1/4 of our members drive plugins.
>
> The problem is that the emissions from 60 people driving to services on
> Sunday is much more than the entire energy of the church itself!  So the
> consensus was to stay put and use on-line meeting.
>
> In earlier times we had plotted where all the members live and it turns out
> that there are 3 major groupings (due to rivers and bays).  Were we to
> "broadcast" as suggested, one could set up three such short range
> transmtters in those three clusters and then people would only have to
> drive to a home in their local cluster instead of across the bridge and all
> to the same place.
>
> Just thinking out loud.
>
> bob
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I  hope the group doesn't mind a non-ham question since we're all trying
> > to help our communities in this difficult time.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the
> > commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the
> > first order of business is finding some hardware.
> >
> > As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've
> been
> > asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for
> > short-range broadcasting to car radios.
> >
> > Interested in commercial products only; thanks but not something I want
> to
> > build & be responsible for maintaining.
> >
> > Thanks very much a good wishes to all.
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> >
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From n9jl at rocketmail.com  Thu Apr  2 19:33:31 2020
From: n9jl at rocketmail.com (John Lutz)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:33:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Operating Schedule
References: <947755770.764711.1585856011452.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <947755770.764711.1585856011452@mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know where information regarding the operating schedule for the ISS crew can be found?
Regards,
John, N9JL

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From mail at hatzakis.net  Thu Apr  2 19:42:50 2020
From: mail at hatzakis.net (Michael Hatzakis Jr MD)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:42:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
In-Reply-To: <1585839642.67424083@apps.rackspace.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1585839642.67424083@apps.rackspace.com>
Message-ID: <DC6E53D6-9BEB-43A2-8321-AB6A826BA8F3@hatzakis.net>

Jim and group,

Maybe I heard this question differently, I heard, what are the advantages of balancing an antenna in the middle at its balance point, versus closer to the reflective end using a counterweight?   

I am also entertaining this option, as the height of my rotor, and thereby the serviceability of the array, are dependent on the length of the back (reflective end) of the antenna).  The more antenna behind, the more chance it will hit the ground or roof line.


Michael Hatzakis Jr   K3MH


> On Apr 2, 2020, at 8:00 AM, jim--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Bob Hammond asked (in part):
>> I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
>> fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
>> weight opposite the antennas.
> 
>> How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
>> counterbalance?  Any issues?
> 
> I would highly recommend against using any substantial antenna arrangement on an elevation rotor without it being balanced.  If it is not balanced, you are putting far more strain on the gears and motor.  Try this to understand the difference.  Take your antenna, and hold it at one end with one hand.  Point it at the horizon.  Then rotate it so it points straight up.  Now move your hand so it is at the balance point, and repeat the demo.  Which one do think is easier?  Don't have an antenna handy, use a long piece of pipe, or conduit, or rebar, or even a stick or baseball bat.
> 
> 73
> -----
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim at k6ccc.org
> 
> 
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Thu Apr  2 20:33:19 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 15:33:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Operating Schedule
In-Reply-To: <947755770.764711.1585856011452@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <947755770.764711.1585856011452.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<947755770.764711.1585856011452@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnDiZ2yfWoZG3cb3oHryqMrXnj-9VNL028-0FSn+sOJ09A@mail.gmail.com>

The schedule of upcoming ARISS contacts is posted regularly on this
list and in AMSAT News Service weekly bulletins. It is also available
at https://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html The occasional SSTV
events are generally also announced in these sources.

Beyond scheduled contacts, casual operations by astronauts are at
their discretion and subject to their off hours. There is no published
schedule for these.

When not being used for voice contacts, the ISS station is frequently
in APRS packet digipeater mode. More information on that is at
https://www.ariss.org/contact-the-iss.html#Packet

During dockings, EVAs, and other special operations aboard the ISS the
amateur station is turned off. Such occasions may occur at any time
and are often not announced in advance.
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:19 PM John Lutz via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where information regarding the operating schedule for the ISS crew can be found?
> Regards,
> John, N9JL
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Thu Apr  2 20:44:07 2020
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 13:44:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <8c0f467b-e7ca-a5b5-f6b0-4433e39ff059@k6ccc.org>

On 04/02/2020 11:27, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the first order of business is finding some hardware.
>
> As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've been asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for short-range broadcasting to car radios.

Getting a LPFM license is not as easy and fast as you think.
As for Part 15 transmitters, there are lots of them out there. There are 
also many available that are claiming to be license free, but not really 
meeting the Part 15 limits (especially if you put a "real" antenna on 
them).? One of my other addictions is running a music synchronized 
Christmas light show.? Almost every person running a music synchronized 
light show is running their music over an FM transmitter - sometimes in 
addition to outdoor speakers. There are several very commonly used 
transmitters.? Search Amazon for CZE-05b and you will find lots of hits 
- that's what I'm using. In my case, I have a homebuilt "real" antenna, 
but I put a in line attenuator between the radio and the antenna to keep 
at least close to Part 15 limits.

As for the drive-in theaters, my assumption is that they are supposedly 
operating under Part 15, but I would be willing to bet that a lot are 
exceeding the field strength limits of Part 15 by at least a bit - 
directional antennas come to mind.? I do know that the last time I did a 
FCC license search for the FM band, the nearest drive in theater (with 
their four screens) did not show up in a licensed listing.

-- 
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org
Ofc:  818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395


From mchambers at showmeham.info  Thu Apr  2 21:59:20 2020
From: mchambers at showmeham.info (Matthew Chambers)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 16:59:20 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <8c0f467b-e7ca-a5b5-f6b0-4433e39ff059@k6ccc.org>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
	<8c0f467b-e7ca-a5b5-f6b0-4433e39ff059@k6ccc.org>
Message-ID: <CA+0ZtTbF=LxB3knUkfFGapuYZ7YBWL0pKJ75pq52eZV-NE7vJQ@mail.gmail.com>

One of the guys on the other group I belong to brought up how some of the
drive-in theaters he worked with operated their system. They had a
transmitter that they hooked up a long run of "leaky" coax to with a 50 ohm
resistor at the far end. The coax was buried under the field where the cars
parked and radiated along it's entire length. No one place exceeded Part 15
limits but the whole area had enough signal to be picked up on all but the
worst car stereos.
Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
Owner/Engineer
*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
Mobile (660)415-5620
www.mchambersradio.com



On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:54 PM Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> On 04/02/2020 11:27, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a low-power transmitter for broadcast on the
> commercial FM radio band?  An LPFM license can be acquired asap, but the
> first order of business is finding some hardware.
> >
> > As you can imagine, church gatherings are out of the question so I've
> been asked to see if I can locate a "drive-in theater" type transmitter for
> short-range broadcasting to car radios.
>
> Getting a LPFM license is not as easy and fast as you think.
> As for Part 15 transmitters, there are lots of them out there. There are
> also many available that are claiming to be license free, but not really
> meeting the Part 15 limits (especially if you put a "real" antenna on
> them).  One of my other addictions is running a music synchronized
> Christmas light show.  Almost every person running a music synchronized
> light show is running their music over an FM transmitter - sometimes in
> addition to outdoor speakers. There are several very commonly used
> transmitters.  Search Amazon for CZE-05b and you will find lots of hits
> - that's what I'm using. In my case, I have a homebuilt "real" antenna,
> but I put a in line attenuator between the radio and the antenna to keep
> at least close to Part 15 limits.
>
> As for the drive-in theaters, my assumption is that they are supposedly
> operating under Part 15, but I would be willing to bet that a lot are
> exceeding the field strength limits of Part 15 by at least a bit -
> directional antennas come to mind.  I do know that the last time I did a
> FCC license search for the FM band, the nearest drive in theater (with
> their four screens) did not show up in a licensed listing.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim at k6ccc.org
> Ofc:  818-548-4804
> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Thu Apr  2 22:04:17 2020
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 15:04:17 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low-Power FM (broadcast band) Transmitter?
In-Reply-To: <CA+0ZtTbF=LxB3knUkfFGapuYZ7YBWL0pKJ75pq52eZV-NE7vJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91C26EDF1BC845829FDFFDA995802A4C@CSI9020>
	<8c0f467b-e7ca-a5b5-f6b0-4433e39ff059@k6ccc.org>
	<CA+0ZtTbF=LxB3knUkfFGapuYZ7YBWL0pKJ75pq52eZV-NE7vJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0304118-d20a-01ea-10b8-445b81b25a66@k6ccc.org>

On 04/02/2020 14:59, Matthew Chambers via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> One of the guys on the other group I belong to brought up how some of the
> drive-in theaters he worked with operated their system. They had a
> transmitter that they hooked up a long run of "leaky" coax to with a 50 ohm
> resistor at the far end. The coax was buried under the field where the cars
> parked and radiated along it's entire length. No one place exceeded Part 15
> limits but the whole area had enough signal to be picked up on all but the
> worst car stereos.
>

That makes a lot of sense, and it makes it far easier to keep the signal 
inside the fence so outsiders can't watch and listen for free.

-- 
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org
Ofc:  818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395


From ariss.w8aas at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 00:00:00 2020
From: ariss.w8aas at gmail.com (Dave Taylor)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 20:00:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Operating Schedule
In-Reply-To: <947755770.764711.1585856011452@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <947755770.764711.1585856011452.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<947755770.764711.1585856011452@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <280626F2-6A4A-4604-856B-975D51339C86@gmail.com>

Right now, packet/APRS is operating and available on 145.825 MHz (subject to the whims of old and temperamental equipment).  The new radio system is on-board, but installation is not yet on NASA?s schedule.

With most schools closed and students locked down around the world, all near-term educational contacts have been postponed or cancelled by the schools involved.  When contacts resume, they will be announced as usual: on this list, various ham radio news outlets, and www.ariss.org <http://www.ariss.org/>.

Dave, W8AAS

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 3:33 PM, John Lutz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where information regarding the operating schedule for the ISS crew can be found?
> Regards,
> John, N9JL
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From tommypnq at centrum.cz  Fri Apr  3 15:20:31 2020
From: tommypnq at centrum.cz (=?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBVcmJhbmVj?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 17:20:31 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT-2/NO-104 status
Message-ID: <0fd8a27d-c263-df88-b2a5-4d96162c3840@centrum.cz>

Hi all,

NO-104/PSAT2 status

The 2m/APRS side of the sat is still non operating for the unknown 
reasons. Any change or any packet heard would be welcomed.

The 435MHz side of the sat is still going strong. The PSK31 transponder 
is operating flawlessly with occasional activity seen over the US. If 
you are operating through transponder, you are asked to stay within 
400-1000Hz of downlink frequency. Lower you can interfere with the tlm 
beacons and higher you will be wiped off by the SSTV signal.

The orbit is elliptical with apogee position period approximately 34 days.

The 435.350MHz downlink frequency is temperature dependent a bit so best 
reception with any kind of SDR, where in waterfall you can see actual 
downlink freq. The greatest offset is seen after eclipse when sat is 
coldest. The downlink is operating in Sun only, it switches off entering 
the eclipse and switches on coming from eclipse or after 30minute timer.

The tlm beacons transmit every 4 minutes. The spectrum of the signal is 
narrow, so in SDR you can use just 2kHz bandwidth gaining SNR. Two 
minutes after tlm, the SSTV picture is transmitted in 4 minutes 
intervals also. For reception best bandwidth observed is around 9500Hz. 
Transmitted pictures are alternating prestored ones and pictures from 
camera memory stored on orbit.

Reception is possible on high passes with good omni antenna using the 
LNA in the quiet environment. But for the passes till horizon, 
directional antenna and LNA is needed.

We are still looking for any stations capable of regular downlink 
receptions with position between 40deg South and 40deg North. If you can 
make the receptions available in IQ format it would be greatly welcomed. 
Station capable of uplink in 29MHz to sat can be selected as commanding 
station and then can acquire pictures in real time or store them in 
sequence. So you can get pictures of your side of the globe, just 
contact us.

Further info and contacts can be found at

https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md

Best regards

Tomas OK2PNQ


From kk5do at arrl.net  Sat Apr  4 15:46:32 2020
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:46:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards during Stay Home orders
References: <aed80854-8bf9-abdd-46e1-24615534f0b2.ref@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <aed80854-8bf9-abdd-46e1-24615534f0b2@arrl.net>

So, you are sitting at home waiting to go back to work. You are working 
some of the passes of a satellite. Logging as you go. What are you going 
to do with all those contacts in your log? Easy?

You apply for an AMSAT or ARRL award. The ARRL has Worked All States, 
DXCC and VUCC all with satellite endorsements. AMSAT has the Satellite 
Communicator Club for working your very first contact on a satellite. 
The easiest award to apply for. Go directly to the AMSAT Online store 
and purchase the award. In the comments enter the time/date, satellite 
and station worked. That?s it. No waiting for QSL cards, no waiting for 
LoTW confirmation. Then send me an email that you have paid for the 
award so I know there is one waiting to be processed.

AMSAT has a few other awards. The AMSAT Satellite Communications 
Achievement Award for working 20 different contacts in different US 
States, VE Call Areas and DXCC entities. Adding 40 more, you earn the 
AMSAT Sexagesimal Award and adding another 40 earns the AMSAT Century 
Award.

Have you been keeping your log for a long time? You might already 
qualify for the AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Satellite Operator 
Achievement Award. This award is for 1,000 contacts with anyone over a 
satellite. Endorsements for each 1,000 up to 4,000 and a special 
certificate at 5,000.

There is also the South Africa AMSAT Satellite Communications 
Achievement award. This award is for 25 contacts through a LEO 
satellite. As we have no HEO satellites at this time and only one GEO 
satellite you are pretty much good on almost any satellite you work.

And the final one, the AMSAT Rover award. A bit much to explain here.

You can get information on all the AMSAT Awards at http://www.amsat.org 
click on Services and click on the word Awards. You can also click on 
each of the individual awards to get information on each.

Submission is easy for the AMSAT awards. Scan your QSL cards or screen 
shot your LoTW for each contact. Place them in a ZIP file, Word 
Document, PDF document and email them to kk5do at amsat dot org. I will 
then take a look at your submission, complete my documentation and email 
you to go pay for the award/s at the AMSAT online store.

Remember, all satellites are COVID-19 free and you should have no 
hesitation making a contact through one.

73...bruce

-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
               
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org

AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat


From w2ev at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  4 19:47:34 2020
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 19:47:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kudos: WB4SON and the AMSAT Ambassador Program
References: <934425515.418538.1586029654421.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <934425515.418538.1586029654421@mail.yahoo.com>

I can't thank AMSAT enough for providing the AMSAT Ambassador program.

This morning, the Rochester VHF Group convened it's first "Spring Session" of 2020 ... online!? AMSAT Ambassador Bob Beatty, WB4SON kept everyone both interested and engaged.? He is an extremely personable, knowledgeable and fluent speaker; an excellent AMSAT resource.

His professionalism was evident as he ran two "test flights" with us prior to the live, online meeting.? Everything was assured to run smoothly.

I strongly endorse the AMSAT Ambassador program and recommend clubs big-and-small take pause to look into it more deeply: https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/

While I'm certain that all AMSAT Ambassadors are well qualified, I can say for certainty that if you are lucky enough to get Bob's schedule to align with your clubs' then you are certain to have a successful event.

Yours in the hobby,

Ev Tupis, W2EV
Chairman, Rochester VHF Group
http://www.RVHFG.org

Celebrating 71 years as the longest continuously
active VHF oriented club in the known universe



From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sat Apr  4 20:49:08 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 16:49:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kudos: WB4SON and the AMSAT Ambassador Program
In-Reply-To: <934425515.418538.1586029654421@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <934425515.418538.1586029654421.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<934425515.418538.1586029654421@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8Pnsc=Eur_oxR0qeVhddYWEDhsiSb-iHJ6XEwrBFo-V9A@mail.gmail.com>

Way to go Bob!

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 15:48 Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I can't thank AMSAT enough for providing the AMSAT Ambassador program.
>
> This morning, the Rochester VHF Group convened it's first "Spring Session"
> of 2020 ... online!  AMSAT Ambassador Bob Beatty, WB4SON kept everyone both
> interested and engaged.  He is an extremely personable, knowledgeable and
> fluent speaker; an excellent AMSAT resource.
>
> His professionalism was evident as he ran two "test flights" with us prior
> to the live, online meeting.  Everything was assured to run smoothly.
>
> I strongly endorse the AMSAT Ambassador program and recommend clubs
> big-and-small take pause to look into it more deeply:
> https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/
>
> While I'm certain that all AMSAT Ambassadors are well qualified, I can say
> for certainty that if you are lucky enough to get Bob's schedule to align
> with your clubs' then you are certain to have a successful event.
>
> Yours in the hobby,
>
> Ev Tupis, W2EV
> Chairman, Rochester VHF Group
> http://www.RVHFG.org
>
> Celebrating 71 years as the longest continuously
> active VHF oriented club in the known universe
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Apr  5 00:00:07 2020
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 17:00:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-096 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpUhXyGvA3Ocy3G9X3NEPQ+1OutTfSO4YHoYtKxzNOMkA@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-096

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mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS
publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on
the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who
share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun-
icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
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In this edition:

* Ham Radio Book Featured in "Story Time From Space" on ISS
* NO-104 / PSAT2 Status
* VUCC Standings for April 2020
* AMSAT Awards During Stay-at-Home Orders
* Radio Amateurs of Canada Offers New Online Amateur Radio Course
* AMSAT South Africa Reports Good Progress with AfriCUBE
* ARISS News
* Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* Satellite Shorts from All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-096.01
ANS-096 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 096.01
 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE April 5, 2020
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-096.01

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         Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office
    is closed until further notice. For details, please visit
  https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/

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Ham Radio Book Featured in "Story Time From Space" on ISS

In a collaborative initiative between the ISS National Lab Space Sta-
tion Explorers, Story Time From Space, and ARISS, the recent book Ada
Lace, Take Me to Your Leader by Emily Calandrelli, KD8PKR, was read by
Astronaut Anne McClain for Story Time From Space. Anne read the book
in three segments. The second segment features a tour of the ARISS
radio station that includes details about ham radio and ARISS.

Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, AMSAT VP Human Spaceflight, pointed out that at
the end of the final segment, a video was included of Astronaut Sunita
Williams, KD5PLB talking about the impact of ham radio on both the ISS
astronauts and the students participating in ARISS activities. Many
schools and media outlets?and even the USA?s First Lady?have recom-
mended that parents have housebound youth listen to McClain read the
book.

The Vermont Community Newspaper Group?s (Burlington) reporter wrote in
part, ?A great way to get out of the house?way out of the house?without
leaving home?. In this installment Ada is trying to fix a ham radio.
It?s a nice antidote to weighty issues, enjoying readings from weight-
lessness.?

A few posts recommending McClain?s YouTube thus far are: Los Angeles?s
ABC TV7; Daily Times (Delaware County, PA); The Mercury (Berks County,
PA); The Trentonian (NJ); The Barnstable Patriot (MA); and the Orange
School District and Hamilton School District (NJ).

Find the video for your favorite future astronaut at:
https://storytimefromspace.com/ada-lace-part-1/

[ANS thanks Rosalie White, K1STO, of the ARISS staff for the above
information]

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NO-104 / PSAT2 Status

The 2m/APRS side of the sat is still non operating for the unknown
reasons. Any change or any packet heard would be welcomed.

The 435MHz side of the sat is still going strong. The PSK31 trans-
ponder is operating flawlessly with occasional activity seen over the
US. If you are operating through transponder, you are asked to stay
within 400-1000Hz of downlink frequency. Lower you can interfere with
the tlm beacons and higher you will be wiped off by the SSTV signal.

The orbit is elliptical with apogee position period approximately 34
days.

The 435.350MHz downlink frequency is temperature dependent a bit so
best reception with any kind of SDR, where in waterfall you can see
actual downlink freq. The greatest offset is seen after eclipse when
sat is coldest. The downlink is operating in Sun only, it switches off
entering the eclipse and switches on coming from eclipse or after 30-
minute timer.

The tlm beacons transmit every 4 minutes. The spectrum of the signal
is narrow, so in SDR you can use just 2kHz bandwidth gaining SNR. Two
minutes after tlm, the SSTV picture is transmitted in 4 minutes
intervals also. For reception best bandwidth observed is around
9500Hz. Transmitted pictures are alternating prestored ones and pict-
ures from camera memory stored on orbit.

Reception is possible on high passes with good omni antenna using the
LNA in the quiet environment. But for the passes till horizon,
directional antenna and LNA is needed.

We are still looking for any stations capable of regular downlink
receptions with position between 40deg South and 40deg North. If you
can make the receptions available in IQ format it would be greatly
welcomed. Station capable of uplink in 29MHz to sat can be selected as
commanding station and then can acquire pictures in real time or store
them in sequence. So you can get pictures of your side of the globe,
just contact us.

Further info and contacts can be found at

https://github.com/alpov/PSAT-2/blob/master/README.md

[ANS thanks Tom?? Urbanec, OK2PNQ, for the above information]

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           Purchase AMSAT Gear on our Zazzle storefront.
          25% of the purchase price of each product goes
            towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space
              https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear

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VUCC Standings for April 2020

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the
ARRL for the period March 1, 2020 through April 1, 2020.
Congratulations to all those who made the list this month!

CALL Mar Apr

N3GS 624 652
K9UO 550 565
KK4YEL 413 504
G0ABI 453 454
KB2YSI 101 450
AD0HJ 405 425
N7EGY 351 405
KC9VGG 228 310
N9FN 207 303
PT9BM 225 255
KC9UQR 240 252
WA9JBQ 175 225
W4ZXT 150 202
K5ZM 135 179
WD9EWK (DM41) 148 164
WD9EWK (DM22) 131 150
N4QX 125 138
XE2YWH 102 137
EA2AA 101 125
IZ1ERR New 112
N7JY New 106
KE4BKL New 101
AA7WB New 100
DP0GVN New 100

[ANS thanks Ronald Parsons, W5RKN, for the above information]

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AMSAT Awards During Stay-at-Home Orders

So, you are sitting at home waiting to go back to work. You are work-
ing some of the passes of a satellite. Logging as you go. What are you
going to do with all those contacts in your log? Easy?

You apply for an AMSAT or ARRL award. The ARRL has Worked All States,
DXCC and VUCC all with satellite endorsements. AMSAT has the Satellite
Communicator Club for working your very first contact on a satellite.
The easiest award to apply for. Go directly to the AMSAT Online store
and purchase the award. In the comments enter the time/date, satellite
and station worked. That?s it. No waiting for QSL cards, no waiting
for LoTW confirmation. Then send me an email that you have paid for
the award so I know there is one waiting to be processed.

AMSAT has a few other awards. The AMSAT Satellite Communications
Achievement Award for working 20 different contacts in different US
States, VE Call Areas and DXCC entities. Adding 40 more, you earn the
AMSAT Sexagesimal Award and adding another 40 earns the AMSAT Century
Award.

Have you been keeping your log for a long time? You might already
qualify for the AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Satellite Operator
Achievement Award. This award is for 1,000 contacts with anyone over a
satellite. Endorsements for each 1,000 up to 4,000 and a special
certificate at 5,000.

There is also the South Africa AMSAT Satellite Communications
Achievement award. This award is for 25 contacts through a LEO
satellite. As we have no HEO satellites at this time and only one GEO
satellite you are pretty much good on almost any satellite you work.

And the final one, the AMSAT Rover award. A bit much to explain here.

You can get information on all the AMSAT Awards at
http://www.amsat.org click on Services and click on the word Awards.
You can also click on each of the individual awards to get information
on each.

Submission is easy for the AMSAT awards. Scan your QSL cards or screen
shot your LoTW for each contact. Place them in a ZIP file, Word
Document, PDF document and email them to kk5do at amsat dot org. I
will then take a look at your submission, complete my documentation
and email you to go pay for the award/s at the AMSAT online store.

Remember, all satellites are COVID-19 free and you should have no
hesitation making a contact through one.

[ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director of Contests and Awards
for the above information]
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Radio Amateurs of Canada Offers New Online Amateur Radio Course

In response to the current Covid-19 crisis, Radio Amateurs of Canada
is pleased to announce that it is introducing a new online Amateur Ra-
dio course so that individuals can upgrade their qualifications while
continuing to practise social/physical distancing.

The RAC Online Basic Amateur Radio Qualification Course prepares stu-
dents for the Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
(ISED) Basic Qualification Level Operator Certificate exam to operate
on allocated Amateur Radio frequencies.

The course will use the GoToMeeting web-based service and will start
on Thursday, April 16 and will finish in mid-June. Classes will be
held on Thursday evenings from 6 pm to 8:30 (1800 ? 2030) Eastern Time
(1900 ? 2130 Atlantic Time) and Sunday afternoons 1 pm to 3:30 pm
(1300 ? 1530) Eastern Time (1400 ? 1630 Atlantic Time).

The course instructor is Al Penney, VO1NO. Al was first licensed in
1977 and has been active in many areas of Amateur Radio including con-
testing, DXing, VHF/UHF weak signal, satellites, emergency communica-
tions and DXpeditioning. He has served as the President of six differ-
ent Amateur Radio clubs in both Canada and the United States and cur-
rently chairs the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) Region 2
Band Planning Committee. Al has taught the Basic Qualification Amateur
Radio Course since 1994.

Cost: The registration fee for the course is $50 plus GST/HST. The
cost of the Basic Study Guide is extra and an order link will be pro-
vided upon completion of payment.

For more information please visit:
https://www.rac.ca/basic-radio-course/

[ANS thanks Southgate ARC for the above information]
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AMSAT South Africa Reports Good Progress with AfriCUBE

AMSATSA held its regular online progress meeting this past Wednesday.
During the past few weeks, progress was made on all fronts. The trans-
ponder was tested on the air and an actual contact was made through the
transponder. Hannes Coetzee, ZS6BZP installed the transponder on the
tower at his house and made a contact with Keith Laaks, ZS6TW. While
it was only over a few kilometres distance, the importance of the
contact was that there was no interference and the audio quality was
good.

This past week Anton Janovsky, ZR6AIC has worked on the software and
through a complicated link managed to upload and install newer soft-
ware remotely. ?Anton connected to my computer and took over the
machine using TeamViewer and then connected via Wi-Fi to the trans-
ponder on my tower,? Hannes, ZS6BZP said. ?In normal times we would
have simply exchanged a memory stick, but in abnormal times one has
to resort to unconventional ways of doing things?.

Further updates will be uploaded this weekend with more testing of the
transponder. The next step is to open the testing to local radio ama-
teurs. Full details will be announced on SARL News and on the AMSAT SA
Web. The full AfriCUBE development story is available on
www.amsatsa.org.za.

The review meeting was also updated with the other components of Afri-
CUBE. The space frame is complete, the PC boards for the solar panels
have been designed and will be manufactured as soon as the lockdown
is over. Work is continuing on the antenna and solar panel deployment
and a further prototype will be manufactured as soon as South Africa
returns to normal work. The electronic power supply unit is complete.
A new interface between the Raspberry Pi and the processor has been
designed and the circuit board laid out.

[ANS thanks the South African Radio League for the above information]

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ARISS News

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-03-30 21:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

TBD

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for
when you are not playing on your radio? Check out these links:

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has
something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram,
Facebook, or Twitter. By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have
any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.
Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy,
ature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World. Check out:
https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.
Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools
and the public in general. As such, we may have last minute cancel-
lations or postponements of school contacts. As always, I will try to
provide everyone with near-real-time updates.

The following schools have now been postponed or canceled due to COVID
-19:

Postponed:

* SPDW Voortrekker Movement, Oranjeville, South Africa, direct via
  ZS9SPD
* RO-SAT One, Piatra-Neam?, Romania, direct via YR?ISS
* McConnell Middle School, Loganville, GA, prefer direct via KD4TGR
* Monroe Carrell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt, Nashville, TN,
  direct via N4FR
* Oakwood School, Morgan Hill, CA, direct via AE6XM
* Ramona Lutheran School, Ramona, CA, direct via N6ROR

Canceled:

* Electromagnetic Field, Ledbury, United Kingdom, direct via GB4EMF

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

[ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N, of the ARISS Operations Team, for
the above information]

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     Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows,
    and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through
           AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards
                  Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
        https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/

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Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events

AMSAT Ambassadors provide presentations, demonstrate communicating
through amateur satellites, and host information tables at club
meetings, hamfests, conventions, maker faires, and other events.

Due to COVID-19, many hamfest and events around the United States have
been canceled or postponed. While we make every effort to ensure the
information contained below is correct, there may be some that we
missed.

We wish all of you safekeeping and hope to be at a hamfest near you
soon.

Current schedule:

May 2, 2020 Arrowhead Radio Amateurs Club Hamfest, Superior, WI
June 12-13, 2020, Ham-Con, Plano, TX
October 16-18, 2020, AMSAT Symposium and Annual General Meeting,
Bloomington, MN

The following events scheduled to have an AMSAT presence have been
CANCELED:

April 18, 2020 Brainerd Area Amateur Radio Club Hamfest, Brainerd, MN
May 2, 2020, Cochise Amateur Radio Association Hamfest, Sierra
Vista, AZ
May 8-9, 2020 Prescott Hamfest, Prescott, AZ
May 15-17, Hamvention, Xenia, OH

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT Vice President - User
Services for the above information]

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    AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
    radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
            be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit.

   Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

+ From the Mountains to the Bay (CM88,89,98,99 DM09,19,29 DN00,01,02,
10,11,20,21) April 12-21, 2020
RJ, WY7AA, is hitting the asphalt again, roving from Wyoming to Vaca-
ville, CA. He?s attending a class from April 15-19, so most of the
roving will be outside of this time. Grids to be covered include:
CM88,89,98,99 DM09,19,29 DN00,01,02,10,11,20,21. Specific pass details
will be posted on WY7AA QRZ page and Twitter
(https://twitter.com/WY7AA) as the trip approaches.

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT Vice President - User Serv-
ices for the above information]

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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ At 15:41 UTC on April 2nd, the thrusters of Progress MS-13 fired for
427.5 seconds to provide ?v 0.48. m/s and raise the ISS's orbit height
by about 0.9 km. (ANS thanks @Zarya_info on Twitter)

+ New distance records have been claimed for XW-2B and EO-88. F4DXV
reports working VO1FOG on XW-2B on April 1st and again on EO-88 on
April 2nd. The 4,086 km trans-Atlantic QSOs are the longest claimed
on either of these two satellites. For more records, check
https://www.amsat.org/satellite-distance-records/

+ The Folding at home project is a distributed computing project that
is currently running calculations to analyze protein structures on the
COVID-19 virus. Donate your spare computer time to help this project
and consider joining AMSAT's team (#67910). More information at
https://foldingathome.org/covid19/ AMSAT's team standings can be
found at https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/69710

+ The 2020 Eastern VHF/UHF Conference has been canceled, so there will
be no Proceedings published. All the papers submitted so far are now
available online at: http://newsvhf.com/conference/2020papers.html

(more papers may be coming - there is no hard deadline) (ANS thanks
the 2020 Eastern VHF/UHF Conference)

+ AMSAT-EA has applied for IARU coordination of the Hades satellite.
Hades, a 1.5p Pocketqube will feature a V/U linear transponder, a re-
generative transponder for FM/FSK/ASK and 0.05kbps-125kbps ASK/FSK/PSK
telemetry, store & forward and data transmission from ground stations.
(ANS thanks the IARU for the above information)

+ Bob Beatty, WB4SON, reported a successful "Satellites for Beginners"
presentation via Zoom to the Rochester VHF Society on Saturday, April
4th. If your group would like to host a virtual AMSAT presentation,
email ambassadors at amsat.org.

+ Happy First Contact Day! 43 years from today, Zefram Cochrane will
break the warp barrier with the Phoenix and make first contact with
the Vulcans.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

/EX

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President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73 and remember to help Keep Amateur Radio in Space,

This week's ANS Editor,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
n8hm at amsat dot org

From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Sun Apr  5 12:57:39 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:57:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEOpack tuning
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>

I?ve had my LEOpack antennas about 8 years, but over the winter my station
became almost totally deaf on 2 meters. I took the 2 meter beam down and
cleaned up a bunch of corrosion around the coax connector, and that seems
to have helped the situation, but...

I checked the antenna with my MFJ Antenna Analyzer (which I did not have
back when I first assembled these antennas) and find that the 2 meter beam
is resonant at about 143.95 MHz ? just below the 2 meter ham band. Up at
145.9, where I would LIKE it to be resonant, my SWR is about 2.5:1. Pretty
high.

Messing with the tuning sliders only made things worse (these adjust
impedance and not necessarily resonance), so I?m wondering, has anyone else
found it necessary to trim the elements on these?

My calculations are that about 1/8? off each end of the DEs would bring it
up the 2 MHz needed. Opinions?
-- 
***Sent from Gmail on iPhone***
Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. K0JM
Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at
Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA
Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn.
------------------------------------------------
"Get the facts first. You can distort them later."
---Mark Twain

From ks1g04 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 16:11:53 2020
From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone want a Kansas City Tracker manual?
Message-ID: <CACZz0S1_yoOdvrNevsDgHgz-mfa8BEXN+o07s7eKwdgRX=Zisg@mail.gmail.com>

Found while cleaning out shack.  LL Grace KCT v 2.43A instructions, June
2000.  Excellent condition.  Email me direct your mailing address if you
want it.   No I can't scan and email it.

73 Steve KS1G

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sun Apr  5 16:21:00 2020
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:21:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEOpack tuning
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006601d60b66$32be9990$983bccb0$@mindspring.com>

Hi Mark,

Experience with these antennas at the demo station at Dayton, confirmed by Robert with M2 who fixed the issue, suggests that you may want to look at the routing and placement of the phasing cables. They are very sensitive on placement, and the issues we had were fixed by Robert rerouting them to be identical with the diagrams in the instructions. Good luck.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Mark D. Johns via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 8:58 AM
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEOpack tuning

I?ve had my LEOpack antennas about 8 years, but over the winter my station became almost totally deaf on 2 meters. I took the 2 meter beam down and cleaned up a bunch of corrosion around the coax connector, and that seems to have helped the situation, but...

I checked the antenna with my MFJ Antenna Analyzer (which I did not have back when I first assembled these antennas) and find that the 2 meter beam is resonant at about 143.95 MHz ? just below the 2 meter ham band. Up at 145.9, where I would LIKE it to be resonant, my SWR is about 2.5:1. Pretty high.

Messing with the tuning sliders only made things worse (these adjust impedance and not necessarily resonance), so I?m wondering, has anyone else found it necessary to trim the elements on these?

My calculations are that about 1/8? off each end of the DEs would bring it up the 2 MHz needed. Opinions?
--
***Sent from Gmail on iPhone***
Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. K0JM
Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn.
------------------------------------------------
"Get the facts first. You can distort them later."
---Mark Twain
_______________________________________________
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From ks1g04 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 16:27:29 2020
From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:27:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] More ancient technology Sat Tracker board and software
Message-ID: <CACZz0S3MJZNt=k1BQeCANm4VTJMtK7En0aT-PQtWLSKTq+z_Cg@mail.gmail.com>

More cleaning shack.  Sat Tracker board and software.  Looks like parallel
printer interface to PC and 8 pin DIN to a G5400/5500 rotator control box.
Includes frequency tracker add-on software on 3.5 floppy disk and
Instant-Track (DOS) on 5.25 floppy and CD. No capability to check if
floppies are readable. InstantTrack will run on a Win10 system using
DOSBOX.

Email me direct if you want it.  All sent as-is.

73 Steve KS1G   <callsign> at amsat.org

From marklhammond at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 16:46:48 2020
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 12:46:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEOpack tuning
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200405164703.E0C2382E3@lansing182.amsat.org>

Hello Mark,

A couple of years ago I had isssues with an M2 2M7 antenna.  SWR would go high, come back down.  Went on for months, up and down the latter, trying to fix. Drove me nuts.  I finally ordered a replacement antenna and swapped out the driven element.   Turns out the issue was this--poor connection between the driven element aluminum "block" and the center pipe!!   After cleaning up the (not visible) corrosion on the underside, where it sits on the center pipe, it was fine.    I swore it was a matching cable, broken solder joint down in the driven element, coax connector...but it wasn't.  All due to bad contact/corrosion between driven element block and main aluminum center pole.   

Might not be your problem--but something to check and remember in case that's a culprit later!

I've had numerous M2 antennas over the years.  Love them, highly recommend.  They are tough, durable, and effective. 

Let us know when you figure out...even if it's in a few years ;-)

73,

Mark N8MH 

At 07:57 AM 4/5/2020 -0500, Mark D. Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>I???ve had my LEOpack antennas about 8 years, but over the winter my station became almost totally deaf on 2 meters. I took the 2 meter beam down and cleaned up a bunch of corrosion around the coax connector, and that seems to have helped the situation, but... I checked the antenna with my MFJ Antenna Analyzer (which I did not have back when I first assembled these antennas) and find that the 2 meter beam is resonant at about 143.95 MHz ? just beloww the 2 meter ham band. Up at 145.9, where I would LIKE it to be resonant, my SWR is about 2.5:1. Pretty high. Messing with the tuning sliders only made things worse (these adjust impedance and not necessarily resonance), so I???m wondering, has anyone else found it necessary to trim the elements on these? My calculations are that about 1/8??? off each end of the DEs would bring it up the 2 MHz needed. Opinions? -- ***Sent from Gmail on iPhone*** Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. K0JM Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn. ------------------------------------------------ "Get the facts first. You can distort them later." ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 

From kb2mjeff at att.net  Sun Apr  5 17:12:12 2020
From: kb2mjeff at att.net (Jeff )
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:12:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone want a Kansas City Tracker manual?
In-Reply-To: <CACZz0S1_yoOdvrNevsDgHgz-mfa8BEXN+o07s7eKwdgRX=Zisg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZz0S1_yoOdvrNevsDgHgz-mfa8BEXN+o07s7eKwdgRX=Zisg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02ec01d60b6d$59bfef60$0d3fce20$@att.net>

I have a KCT board to go along with it if anyone wants it. Maybe we should send both  to the Smithsonian  ?


73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Stephan Greene via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:12
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone want a Kansas City Tracker manual?

Found while cleaning out shack.  LL Grace KCT v 2.43A instructions, June 2000.  Excellent condition.  Email me direct your mailing address if you
want it.   No I can't scan and email it.

73 Steve KS1G



From va3mw at portcredit.net  Sun Apr  5 18:56:02 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 14:56:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to Drive SATpc32
Message-ID: <CA+33ts6-q97w51Zc8oqLo89ODTw+5L66OWZfucerzj1vfz-N8g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

I did this video to help experienced hams but new satellite operators to
navigate SATpc32.

https://youtu.be/JLdROrcY7fY

For me, the first weeks week terribly frustrating to get over the hump.

This assumes your radio and rotator are already connected to SATpc32 but
you have yet to get a quality first QSO.

Feel free to add useful comments in the video chat.

Mike va3mw

From cq.kg6o at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 20:25:01 2020
From: cq.kg6o at gmail.com (Chris Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:25:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] A Critique on Operations of the FM Birds
Message-ID: <CANPmdb2eGgxSJGaePHRz6er8UPh4n5vj63Nk2Gx5jvsSUaVcsQ@mail.gmail.com>

We all want and need more good operators on the FM Birds, and each pass is
a severely-limited resource.

Unfortunately, I am constantly bearing witness to operating practices which
run counter to these facts.

To promote more operators using the birds we have, so that they can give up
new grid squares, and perhaps become more active down the road, and in
order to build the AMSAT membership I offer the following:

FOR *ALL* FM SATELLITE OPERATORS: Please update your personal/favored Best
Practices Guide with your reflection upon the following suggestions...

1) *Record your audio for each pass*
  - If you are running portable: I'm in love  with my little Sony voice
recorder that has simultaneous audio in and out on 3.5mm jacks.
  - If you can run 50w, and/or high gain, you have zero excuses not to do
so.

1b) When you are recording your passes, please *don't ask for callsign
repeats*.
  - Just be sure the entire callsign was clear for the recording.
  - That repeat takes up an entire window for a new contact.

2) Keep your contact to *pass*ing *no more than the exchange (e.g. callsign
and grid square)*
  - Even one extra transmission soaks valuable bird time needed for the
next contact to start, ad provides no added benefit to the community.
  - e.g. There is no need to let the distant operator know you sent them a
package.

3) *Don't repeat contacts*, even just to say 'hello.'
  - It soaks an entire contact window for someone else, and that person
usually is not on the bird for every pass.
  - I have seen this, first-hand: hearing a conversation on a satellite
crushes new operators (literally and figuratively). They were waiting for a
window to make a contact on the only pass of the day, and hearing this
provided an excellent excuse for the new operators give up, and abandon sat
work entirely because they realize they may never be able to get to the
'level' of someone having that conversation, depriving the rest of us of
future new contacts.

4) *Don't use 50w ?*
  - I continually hear big-gun stations wind up crushing less-powerful
operators trying to get into the bird -- many of whom are usually equipped
with just a handheld and a handheld beam... and many of those are just
trying to make their first contact via our 'smart space debris'.
  - This practice alsso keeps 'honest' 5-watt'ers from being able to score
needed Grid Squares as the neelessly-stronger stations carelessly override
our signals... [aherm] especially when acting contrary to Suggestion '3'.

5) *Use Full Duplex*
  - Out of consideration for others, please do not try to make a
contact via the bird without a full-duplex radio and the ability to hear
others on the satellite.
  - Good-quailty Full-duplex FM radios are cheap and available online for
as little as $100, or new for $250 (DJ-G7).
  - By hearing your signal on the bird, you will begin to hear and
understand that your signal may be stepping on other operators also trying
to get in.
  - As soon as you hear yourself on top someone else, consult Suggestion 4,
and make a decision about how needed your contact is.

In Summary: *YOU DO NOT OWN THE BIRD*
*  - *If it's a blank passband... THAT'S A GOOD THING! Every blank second
is an opportunity for a new station to make a call, which is what we want.
   - ASSUME that there is ALWAYS someone new on, usually with just an
arrow/elk and their handheld, trying to make their first contact.



VUCC wasn't earned in a day, but it shouldn't take 3 passes for one
operator to make a single contact.

I believe I may be re-sending some variation of this [message] each time I
encounter more of the operating practices I've recently observed on
AO-91/92 and SO-50 which sparked this Email*.

? 47 CFR ? 97.313 <https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.313> -
'...minimum
transmitter power necessary'
* Flagrancy may earn an edited copy of these suggestions sent directly to
you. Repeated Flagrancy may earn a shame-mail to the group.

/ch
KG6O atsin arrl dot net

From ke4al at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  5 21:01:28 2020
From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to Drive SATpc32
In-Reply-To: <CA+33ts6-q97w51Zc8oqLo89ODTw+5L66OWZfucerzj1vfz-N8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+33ts6-q97w51Zc8oqLo89ODTw+5L66OWZfucerzj1vfz-N8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <679856138.865762.1586120488469@mail.yahoo.com>

Great job, Michael.? Thank for sharing.

73,

Robert, KE4AL


On Sunday, April 5, 2020, 01:57:14 PM CDT, Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: 


Hi All

I did this video to help experienced hams but new satellite operators to
navigate SATpc32.

https://youtu.be/JLdROrcY7fY

For me, the first weeks week terribly frustrating to get over the hump.

This assumes your radio and rotator are already connected to SATpc32 but
you have yet to get a quality first QSO.

Feel free to add useful comments in the video chat.

Mike va3mw
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From va3mw at portcredit.net  Sun Apr  5 23:03:38 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 19:03:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to Drive SATpc32
In-Reply-To: <000301d60b9d$2896c9b0$79c45d10$@charter.net>
References: <CA+33ts6-q97w51Zc8oqLo89ODTw+5L66OWZfucerzj1vfz-N8g@mail.gmail.com>
	<000301d60b9d$2896c9b0$79c45d10$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts446v+-ogQqJ3rVakfyF7g-Jvv1w0hFiZi0qKgrnz6fCw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure that someone might be able to share that with you from this list.
I'm still hacking away at them and I am amazed that I made so many errors
in 3 or 4 entries.

Someone might be able to share theirs with you.

Mike va3mw

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 6:54 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:

> Nice video, Mike.
>
> I wish there were something like this to cover the importing/updating/setup
> of the sql files. That is where my problems have always been and what
> prevents me from using the program.
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Walker via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:56 AM
> To: AMSAT
> Subject: [amsat-bb] How to Drive SATpc32
>
> Hi All
>
> I did this video to help experienced hams but new satellite operators to
> navigate SATpc32.
>
> https://youtu.be/JLdROrcY7fY
>
> For me, the first weeks week terribly frustrating to get over the hump.
>
> This assumes your radio and rotator are already connected to SATpc32 but
> you have yet to get a quality first QSO.
>
> Feel free to add useful comments in the video chat.
>
> Mike va3mw
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

From penguin359 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 05:44:44 2020
From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 22:44:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 with the FT-818nd
Message-ID: <CACymvmdznsEKZQFcX5q8kxZSs1t0m2iDEFGFOye4iksbHYiNEQ@mail.gmail.com>

I recently tried using SatPC32 for CAT control of my Yaesu FT-818nd rig for
automatic tuning during a pass of the XW-2B linear transponder satellite.
The radio appears to be just a minor hardware refresh of the FT-817 and
FT-817nd so I have it configured to use Yaesu FT-817 in the radio control
settings. My CAT control interface is using a U5 Link which connects to the
accessory port on the back of the radio. Inside the box, it is just an FTDI
chip. It is set to the baud rate 38400. I have successfully been using this
box with both Ham Radio Deluxe and N1MM for various other controls.
However, I had an issue with SatPC32 not making all of the correct
adjustments.

>From what I can tell, it is dropping commands. The radio was only partly
configured correctly such as setting the USB/LSB modes on VFOs A/B. It was
not adjusting the frequency. I had the CAT delay set to the original value
of 70 ms and tried increasing it. At 180 ms, it was still having issues,
but I finally bumped it up to 300 ms and the radio started responding
correctly. I then saw it tuning both the TX and RX VFOs as needed
throughout the pass. However, at this delay, it spends a noticeable amount
of time in the TX VFO before it updates the frequency and, if I'm not
watching carefully, will press the PTT on only to have it jump to the RX
VFO to transmit. It also means more time where I won't be hearing the
incoming signal if someone else is talking.

Are there any recommendations for improving this situation or could I
possibly have a bad (cheap Chinese clone?) FTDI chip that is limiting the
rate that commands can be sent? I have not had any issues with HRD or N1MM,
but I expect they are sending commands at a lower rate since it's not a
constant Doppler shift. Anyone else have a solid FT-817/818 setup?

- Loren
K7IW

From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Mon Apr  6 13:49:59 2020
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (Ray Soifer)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:49:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] May QST
References: <407280608.1206397.1586180999270.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <407280608.1206397.1586180999270@mail.yahoo.com>

The digital edition of May QST is now available to ARRL members.? See pp. 52-53.

73 Ray W2RS

From documike at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 21:41:17 2020
From: documike at comcast.net (Mike Lucas)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:41:17 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-736R TAP Board Install
Message-ID: <003d01d60c5c$1ac10430$50430c90$@comcast.net>

Good day & hope everyone is doing well.  Has anyone done a TAP board
installation on their Ft-736R & used it with an SDR as a PAN adapter?  If so
can you share your experience with it and maybe point me to some
installation tips, pix, etc.?  It looks like a worthwhile project for not a
lot of expense.

Regards,

Mike N7ASZ


From cq.kg6o at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 03:06:47 2020
From: cq.kg6o at gmail.com (Chris Hoffman, KG6O)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:06:47 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
In-Reply-To: <89697847.1617202.1585101785285@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <89697847.1617202.1585101785285@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46C460D7-9D30-4BDE-A6FB-92F98BC2FF5B@gmail.com>

I agree ?Never? is incredibly strong. Perhaps ?...should be avoided if at all possible...?? 

In my opinion, the problem is not QRM or congestion. The problem is welcomeness. 

The problem is that new operators continually hear banter and ?... it?s a nice morning here, Bob...? then when they try to squeeze in a contact ?after the conversation is over? they are instead crushed by other operators also trying to respect boundaries on an 8min pass. 

The problem is that new operators have told me they perceive what are obviously repeated contacts as an expression of territory, and they put down the antenna for good.

The problem is the assumption that it?s ?...NOT a busy pass.? That very idea serves to disenfranchise, devalue, and repel new operators, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Save Repeated Contacts ?short or long? for EMail or HF: it should ALWAYS be considered to be a ?busy pass? until we have available passes every 5 minutes. 

I challenge the experienced ?regular? operators to stay off the PTT, listen for the new contacts that will inevitably show up,  and remember that ?in the aggregate? any open transponder time is an invitation for new operators.

/CH
KG6O
kg6o at arrl.net

> On Mar 24, 2020, at 19:06, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ? It all depends on the situation. If it is a busy pass and others are
> trying to make a QSO with a specific station since they are a Rover
> or DX or rare somehow or New, just step aside if you don't need or
> want that station. If it is NOT a busy pass, there should be no problem
> with calling any station for any reason as long as you are not QRMing
> an existing QSO in progress. How easy is it to just LISTEN and hear
> what is going on and act accordingly? Just like on other Bands or
> Modes or Repeaters, DON'T transmit on top of a busy frequency. BTW,
> if you can't hear other stations or the Beacon on a pass, it would not
> be good to do a lot of transmitting since you may be causing a lot of
> QRM to other users. Listening to several passes without hearing other
> stations probably indicates you have a RX problem. When setting up
> a station, always make sure you are hearing well before ever trying
> to transmit.
> 
> GL/73/Enjoy, Bob K8BL
>     On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:46:00 PM EDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
> 
> I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
> multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by case
> basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if this is
> a problem.
> 
> Brian Wilkins
> KO4AQF
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
>>> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
>> station
>>> if you have already worked them before.  Let others get a chance.
>> 
>> 
>> "Never" is a powerful word.  There are plenty of passes that I've worked
>> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
>> worked plenty of times before.    Weekday morning passes are typical
>> examples.  I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least modifying it
>> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests good
>> operating habits that cover this).
>> 
>> --Roy
>> K3RLD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Tue Apr  7 05:00:18 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 23:00:18 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-475H CI-V questions
Message-ID: <20200406230018.47c83b09036dffb50d818a75@yknwt.ca>

  I've recently came into an IC-475H that I'd like to use as the uplink
on linear sats.  But I'm having some trouble getting the CAT control to
work.  I'm using grig instead of going in/out of Gpredict just to test
the CI-V link.

I thought that this should work in grig:
grig -m 307 -r /dev/ttyUSB1 -s 1200 -c 14

  but it doesn't seem to connect.  I have visually verified in the 475
the switch settings for the address and speed, they're set to default
$14 1200 baud.  With nothing connected the DC voltage on the remote
output is about 2.0VDC which agrees with the schematic.

  I'm hoping that there is something I've overlooked.  The interface
with grig works with my IC-R7000 
grig -m 340 -r /dev/ttyUSB1 -s 1200 -c 08

   Ron VE8RT

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From corlissbs at aol.com  Tue Apr  7 14:31:04 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] A Critique on Operations of the FM Birds
References: <446547258.1830565.1586269864540.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <446547258.1830565.1586269864540@mail.yahoo.com>

My 2 cents worth of opinion, given free. I own both the Alinco DJ-G7 and Kenwood D72. There is no comparison between the two radios. The Alinco has desense problems, so one still has to use two radios to work full duplex. Where the Alinco shines, is that it can do L/v on AO-92, but still with another radio for down link to hear it best. Save your money for a D710, unless you are looking for L/v!

50 watts?? I think that if you check the specs of the new 9700 radio, it puts out more than 50 watts. Couple that to a 30 db gain yagi antenna any one can "rule the airwaves." Yes, please give us portable and handheld hams a break. But the offenders probably are not on this message board. As portables, we try to do the best we can. I do throw my call out once during most passes that I work, because I know that hams need some of the grids that i work from when I rove. I learned that by Gridmaster. I am happy to give someone a grid by appointment.
I began working the FM and linear birds in 2013. It has always been a "good old boys club" on the birds. Guys saying "Hi" to their friends and it isn't going to change. I remember Uncle Frank being the center of attention on each pass and there was a "Breakfast Club." It was fun back then. Yes, the birds were much less busy, but not much has or will change other than the amount of people trying to get into a bird. PO-101 seems to be that way now.
Why does one permanent shack station, with high power have to dominate a pass? Especially when a rover is on. Make one contact and let people get the rover. Just because you may not collect grids, a lot of others do.
I, personally am unhappy with what I am hearing on the FM birds and it is not the guys saying "Hi" to their friends. There is a lot more going on our there.

There are some very poor operators out there and I believe, some jammers with open mics, etc. That part is sad and has gotten worse, lately. Again,just my opinion and thank you for letting me voice it. Brad Smith KC9UQR

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Tue Apr  7 16:13:07 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:13:07 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-475H CI-V questions - sorted out?
In-Reply-To: <20200406230018.47c83b09036dffb50d818a75@yknwt.ca>
References: <20200406230018.47c83b09036dffb50d818a75@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <20200407101307.36978fe2bb1b0d25c500497f@yknwt.ca>

Thanks for the private e-mails, the CI-V is now working.  too my
surprise invoking grig or rigctld would not work until I dropped the
CI-V address in the command line.  Without -c14 (or -c anything) it
worked.  I have more questions, now that I can follow the Doppler
shift, in a subsequent post.

Going to try in a minute or two on XW-2

      Ron VE8RT DP22

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 23:00:18 -0600
Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>   I've recently came into an IC-475H that I'd like to use as the uplink
> on linear sats.  But I'm having some trouble getting the CAT control to
> work.  I'm using grig instead of going in/out of Gpredict just to test
> the CI-V link.
> 
> I thought that this should work in grig:
> grig -m 307 -r /dev/ttyUSB1 -s 1200 -c 14
> 
>   but it doesn't seem to connect.  I have visually verified in the 475
> the switch settings for the address and speed, they're set to default
> $14 1200 baud.  With nothing connected the DC voltage on the remote
> output is about 2.0VDC which agrees with the schematic.
> 
>   I'm hoping that there is something I've overlooked.  The interface
> with grig works with my IC-R7000 
> grig -m 340 -r /dev/ttyUSB1 -s 1200 -c 08
> 
>    Ron VE8RT
> 
> -- 
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc  Tue Apr  7 16:21:52 2020
From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:21:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
In-Reply-To: <46C460D7-9D30-4BDE-A6FB-92F98BC2FF5B@gmail.com>
References: <89697847.1617202.1585101785285@mail.yahoo.com>
	<46C460D7-9D30-4BDE-A6FB-92F98BC2FF5B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxUf8Vg8xZ2Uaao8O5-DgMtPBpU4Rwas0UVYb-W7_Ja8Sw@mail.gmail.com>

I agree that "never" is too strong.  I've used this example before, but--a
few years ago, I set up a sched with a friend in Ontario to talk briefly
with my grandson so the grandson could have a chance to do a satellite and
get a QSL card and maybe plant a seed of interest in amateur radio.  It all
came off, they spent maybe 30 sec talking, and then we signed off and
thanked everyone for making a 8-year-old's day.  Those who were waiting
were kind and considerate.  I would not do that if there was a rover on, of
course, but once in a while, I think it is fair to make an exception for a
kid, a class, a demo, etc.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:13 PM Chris Hoffman, KG6O via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I agree ?Never? is incredibly strong. Perhaps ?...should be avoided if at
> all possible...??
>
> In my opinion, the problem is not QRM or congestion. The problem is
> welcomeness.
>
> The problem is that new operators continually hear banter and ?... it?s a
> nice morning here, Bob...? then when they try to squeeze in a contact
> ?after the conversation is over? they are instead crushed by other
> operators also trying to respect boundaries on an 8min pass.
>
> The problem is that new operators have told me they perceive what are
> obviously repeated contacts as an expression of territory, and they put
> down the antenna for good.
>
> The problem is the assumption that it?s ?...NOT a busy pass.? That very
> idea serves to disenfranchise, devalue, and repel new operators, making it
> a self-fulfilling prophecy. Save Repeated Contacts ?short or long? for
> EMail or HF: it should ALWAYS be considered to be a ?busy pass? until we
> have available passes every 5 minutes.
>
> I challenge the experienced ?regular? operators to stay off the PTT,
> listen for the new contacts that will inevitably show up,  and remember
> that ?in the aggregate? any open transponder time is an invitation for new
> operators.
>
> /CH
> KG6O
> kg6o at arrl.net
>
> > On Mar 24, 2020, at 19:06, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > ? It all depends on the situation. If it is a busy pass and others are
> > trying to make a QSO with a specific station since they are a Rover
> > or DX or rare somehow or New, just step aside if you don't need or
> > want that station. If it is NOT a busy pass, there should be no problem
> > with calling any station for any reason as long as you are not QRMing
> > an existing QSO in progress. How easy is it to just LISTEN and hear
> > what is going on and act accordingly? Just like on other Bands or
> > Modes or Repeaters, DON'T transmit on top of a busy frequency. BTW,
> > if you can't hear other stations or the Beacon on a pass, it would not
> > be good to do a lot of transmitting since you may be causing a lot of
> > QRM to other users. Listening to several passes without hearing other
> > stations probably indicates you have a RX problem. When setting up
> > a station, always make sure you are hearing well before ever trying
> > to transmit.
> >
> > GL/73/Enjoy, Bob K8BL
> >     On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:46:00 PM EDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF
> via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
> > multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by case
> > basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if this
> is
> > a problem.
> >
> > Brian Wilkins
> > KO4AQF
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
> >>> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
> >> station
> >>> if you have already worked them before.  Let others get a chance.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Never" is a powerful word.  There are plenty of passes that I've worked
> >> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
> >> worked plenty of times before.    Weekday morning passes are typical
> >> examples.  I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least modifying
> it
> >> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests
> good
> >> operating habits that cover this).
> >>
> >> --Roy
> >> K3RLD
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Tue Apr  7 16:24:07 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:24:07 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
Message-ID: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>

  I rely a lot on the AMSAT frequency guide, to at least double check
the software (GPredict).  There are several satillites listed on the
April 2019 (latest guide I have) that I have no data for, TLE's or
transponder.  Maybe if I'd been following this list more closely I'd be
up to date.  They are no longer in service, or would I find them
identified as something else?

  My 475 CAT control worked very well on the latest pass of XW-2B, too
bad I couldn't hear anyone else on the west coast.

   Ron VE8RT 

-- 
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Apr  7 17:08:35 2020
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 13:08:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
References: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>

Ron,

Which satellites don't you have data for? Some may be listed under
their non-OSCAR names in GPredict.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:39 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>   I rely a lot on the AMSAT frequency guide, to at least double check
> the software (GPredict).  There are several satillites listed on the
> April 2019 (latest guide I have) that I have no data for, TLE's or
> transponder.  Maybe if I'd been following this list more closely I'd be
> up to date.  They are no longer in service, or would I find them
> identified as something else?
>
>   My 475 CAT control worked very well on the latest pass of XW-2B, too
> bad I couldn't hear anyone else on the west coast.
>
>    Ron VE8RT
>
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From cq.kg6o at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 17:33:57 2020
From: cq.kg6o at gmail.com (Chris Hoffman)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:33:57 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
In-Reply-To: <CABX7KxUf8Vg8xZ2Uaao8O5-DgMtPBpU4Rwas0UVYb-W7_Ja8Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89697847.1617202.1585101785285@mail.yahoo.com>
	<46C460D7-9D30-4BDE-A6FB-92F98BC2FF5B@gmail.com>
	<CABX7KxUf8Vg8xZ2Uaao8O5-DgMtPBpU4Rwas0UVYb-W7_Ja8Sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANPmdb1dehyOs0HR_Ttp3Rky2GXf0TjR6rgVk62QXUsm-gESTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Fair point.

I believe this would be limited to 'repeated contacts'. No one wants to
intentionally take away the experience of a first-timer.

/ch
KG6O
KG6O atsin arrl dot net


On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 9:30 AM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I agree that "never" is too strong.  I've used this example before, but--a
> few years ago, I set up a sched with a friend in Ontario to talk briefly
> with my grandson so the grandson could have a chance to do a satellite and
> get a QSL card and maybe plant a seed of interest in amateur radio.  It all
> came off, they spent maybe 30 sec talking, and then we signed off and
> thanked everyone for making a 8-year-old's day.  Those who were waiting
> were kind and considerate.  I would not do that if there was a rover on, of
> course, but once in a while, I think it is fair to make an exception for a
> kid, a class, a demo, etc.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:13 PM Chris Hoffman, KG6O via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > I agree ?Never? is incredibly strong. Perhaps ?...should be avoided if at
> > all possible...??
> >
> > In my opinion, the problem is not QRM or congestion. The problem is
> > welcomeness.
> >
> > The problem is that new operators continually hear banter and ?... it?s a
> > nice morning here, Bob...? then when they try to squeeze in a contact
> > ?after the conversation is over? they are instead crushed by other
> > operators also trying to respect boundaries on an 8min pass.
> >
> > The problem is that new operators have told me they perceive what are
> > obviously repeated contacts as an expression of territory, and they put
> > down the antenna for good.
> >
> > The problem is the assumption that it?s ?...NOT a busy pass.? That very
> > idea serves to disenfranchise, devalue, and repel new operators, making
> it
> > a self-fulfilling prophecy. Save Repeated Contacts ?short or long? for
> > EMail or HF: it should ALWAYS be considered to be a ?busy pass? until we
> > have available passes every 5 minutes.
> >
> > I challenge the experienced ?regular? operators to stay off the PTT,
> > listen for the new contacts that will inevitably show up,  and remember
> > that ?in the aggregate? any open transponder time is an invitation for
> new
> > operators.
> >
> > /CH
> > KG6O
> > kg6o at arrl.net
> >
> > > On Mar 24, 2020, at 19:06, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ? It all depends on the situation. If it is a busy pass and others are
> > > trying to make a QSO with a specific station since they are a Rover
> > > or DX or rare somehow or New, just step aside if you don't need or
> > > want that station. If it is NOT a busy pass, there should be no problem
> > > with calling any station for any reason as long as you are not QRMing
> > > an existing QSO in progress. How easy is it to just LISTEN and hear
> > > what is going on and act accordingly? Just like on other Bands or
> > > Modes or Repeaters, DON'T transmit on top of a busy frequency. BTW,
> > > if you can't hear other stations or the Beacon on a pass, it would not
> > > be good to do a lot of transmitting since you may be causing a lot of
> > > QRM to other users. Listening to several passes without hearing other
> > > stations probably indicates you have a RX problem. When setting up
> > > a station, always make sure you are hearing well before ever trying
> > > to transmit.
> > >
> > > GL/73/Enjoy, Bob K8BL
> > >     On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:46:00 PM EDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF
> > via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
> > > multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by case
> > > basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if this
> > is
> > > a problem.
> > >
> > > Brian Wilkins
> > > KO4AQF
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
> > >>> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
> > >> station
> > >>> if you have already worked them before.  Let others get a chance.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Never" is a powerful word.  There are plenty of passes that I've
> worked
> > >> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
> > >> worked plenty of times before.    Weekday morning passes are typical
> > >> examples.  I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least
> modifying
> > it
> > >> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests
> > good
> > >> operating habits that cover this).
> > >>
> > >> --Roy
> > >> K3RLD
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > >> expressed
> > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > >> AMSAT-NA.
> > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > >> Subscription settings:
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> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> of
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> expressed
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Tue Apr  7 21:36:40 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 15:36:40 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] odd phenomena AO7 ?
Message-ID: <20200407153640.4ee4d31a4b9f853488d247db@yknwt.ca>

  back in the late 80's and early 90's I'd heard this on the HF sats
that downlinked on 10M, but not on 2M.

 While looking at future satellite plots I had the receiver tuned to
the mid band of the AO7 downlink and I'm hearing CW (145.948 MHz).
There are no amateur satellites above my horizon, anywhere.  It was
very clear, sounded like someone listening for their output, long
dashes, bursts of CW, pauses, more of the same.  I thought that I'd
recorded it, but I didn't press the record button long enough and have
nothing to show for it.  GPredict, at about 21:12 UTC had the azimuth
of AO7 at 327 deg with an elevation of -54.  It lasted a few minutes
and the followed the Doppler correction as shown on GPredict.  When I
pointed my antenna to the GPredict azimuth for AO7 the signal strength
noticeably increased.

  Does this also happen on 2M?

    Ron VE8RT

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Tue Apr  7 21:40:36 2020
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 21:40:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
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 Burns (WB1FJ, I think maybe),
I agree that there should always be room for a QSOlike that. If we ever get to a place in Ham Radio whereanyone is criticized for making a contact together withtheir Child/Grandchild/Spouse/Friend, we're done!

73,? ?Bob? K8BL
    On Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 12:26:21 PM EDT, Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I agree that "never" is too strong.? I've used this example before, but--a
few years ago, I set up a sched with a friend in Ontario to talk briefly
with my grandson so the grandson could have a chance to do a satellite and
get a QSL card and maybe plant a seed of interest in amateur radio.? It all
came off, they spent maybe 30 sec talking, and then we signed off and
thanked everyone for making a 8-year-old's day.? Those who were waiting
were kind and considerate.? I would not do that if there was a rover on, of
course, but once in a while, I think it is fair to make an exception for a
kid, a class, a demo, etc.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:13 PM Chris Hoffman, KG6O via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I agree ?Never? is incredibly strong. Perhaps ?...should be avoided if at
> all possible...??
>
> In my opinion, the problem is not QRM or congestion. The problem is
> welcomeness.
>
> The problem is that new operators continually hear banter and ?... it?s a
> nice morning here, Bob...? then when they try to squeeze in a contact
> ?after the conversation is over? they are instead crushed by other
> operators also trying to respect boundaries on an 8min pass.
>
> The problem is that new operators have told me they perceive what are
> obviously repeated contacts as an expression of territory, and they put
> down the antenna for good.
>
> The problem is the assumption that it?s ?...NOT a busy pass.? That very
> idea serves to disenfranchise, devalue, and repel new operators, making it
> a self-fulfilling prophecy. Save Repeated Contacts ?short or long? for
> EMail or HF: it should ALWAYS be considered to be a ?busy pass? until we
> have available passes every 5 minutes.
>
> I challenge the experienced ?regular? operators to stay off the PTT,
> listen for the new contacts that will inevitably show up,? and remember
> that ?in the aggregate? any open transponder time is an invitation for new
> operators.
>
> /CH
> KG6O
> kg6o at arrl.net
>
> > On Mar 24, 2020, at 19:06, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > ? It all depends on the situation. If it is a busy pass and others are
> > trying to make a QSO with a specific station since they are a Rover
> > or DX or rare somehow or New, just step aside if you don't need or
> > want that station. If it is NOT a busy pass, there should be no problem
> > with calling any station for any reason as long as you are not QRMing
> > an existing QSO in progress. How easy is it to just LISTEN and hear
> > what is going on and act accordingly? Just like on other Bands or
> > Modes or Repeaters, DON'T transmit on top of a busy frequency. BTW,
> > if you can't hear other stations or the Beacon on a pass, it would not
> > be good to do a lot of transmitting since you may be causing a lot of
> > QRM to other users. Listening to several passes without hearing other
> > stations probably indicates you have a RX problem. When setting up
> > a station, always make sure you are hearing well before ever trying
> > to transmit.
> >
> > GL/73/Enjoy, Bob K8BL
> >? ? On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:46:00 PM EDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF
> via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
> > multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by case
> > basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if this
> is
> > a problem.
> >
> > Brian Wilkins
> > KO4AQF
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
> >>> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
> >> station
> >>> if you have already worked them before.? Let others get a chance.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Never" is a powerful word.? There are plenty of passes that I've worked
> >> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
> >> worked plenty of times before.? ? Weekday morning passes are typical
> >> examples.? I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least modifying
> it
> >> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests
> good
> >> operating habits that cover this).
> >>
> >> --Roy
> >> K3RLD
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 22:02:59 2020
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:02:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] odd phenomena AO7 ?
In-Reply-To: <20200407153640.4ee4d31a4b9f853488d247db@yknwt.ca>
References: <20200407153640.4ee4d31a4b9f853488d247db@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOa+=sDjc958SyNE4qZEVQDAfJyK0yKd3it26wi5Uhmt0g@mail.gmail.com>

Good day, Ron!

Satellite 'Move-2' was west of your location around that time & is supposed
to have a beacon on 145.950.  So, that's a possible source.

https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/move-2-orbit.png

https://www.move2space.de/MOVE-II/satellite/radio-amateurs/

-Scott,  K4KDR

=======================

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 5:38 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>   back in the late 80's and early 90's I'd heard this on the HF sats
> that downlinked on 10M, but not on 2M.
>
>  While looking at future satellite plots I had the receiver tuned to
> the mid band of the AO7 downlink and I'm hearing CW (145.948 MHz).
> There are no amateur satellites above my horizon, anywhere.  It was
> very clear, sounded like someone listening for their output, long
> dashes, bursts of CW, pauses, more of the same.  I thought that I'd
> recorded it, but I didn't press the record button long enough and have
> nothing to show for it.  GPredict, at about 21:12 UTC had the azimuth
> of AO7 at 327 deg with an elevation of -54.  It lasted a few minutes
> and the followed the Doppler correction as shown on GPredict.  When I
> pointed my antenna to the GPredict azimuth for AO7 the signal strength
> noticeably increased.
>
>   Does this also happen on 2M?
>
>     Ron VE8RT
>
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Tue Apr  7 23:52:41 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 17:52:41 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] odd phenomena AO7 ?
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOa+=sDjc958SyNE4qZEVQDAfJyK0yKd3it26wi5Uhmt0g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200407153640.4ee4d31a4b9f853488d247db@yknwt.ca>
	<CAJCSnOa+=sDjc958SyNE4qZEVQDAfJyK0yKd3it26wi5Uhmt0g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200407175241.d050cbf805b7ceee8d2f896e@yknwt.ca>

Hi Scott,

   I tried to get an audio sample of the beacon, but no luck.  After
spending some time downloading a few files (long, slow download)
identified as CW at the satnoggs site I had to give up, there was no
identifiable Morse on the ones I downloaded.

   So I can't say that it wasn't Move II, the CW was at about 25wpm,
some longer dashes, it appeared to me to be random, definitely no
audible data.

   Too bad I didn't record it.

     Ron VE8RT

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:02:59 -0400
Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Good day, Ron!
> 
> Satellite 'Move-2' was west of your location around that time & is supposed
> to have a beacon on 145.950.  So, that's a possible source.
> 
> https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/move-2-orbit.png
> 
> https://www.move2space.de/MOVE-II/satellite/radio-amateurs/
> 
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> 
> =======================
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 5:38 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
> >   back in the late 80's and early 90's I'd heard this on the HF sats
> > that downlinked on 10M, but not on 2M.
> >
> >  While looking at future satellite plots I had the receiver tuned to
> > the mid band of the AO7 downlink and I'm hearing CW (145.948 MHz).
> > There are no amateur satellites above my horizon, anywhere.  It was
> > very clear, sounded like someone listening for their output, long
> > dashes, bursts of CW, pauses, more of the same.  I thought that I'd
> > recorded it, but I didn't press the record button long enough and have
> > nothing to show for it.  GPredict, at about 21:12 UTC had the azimuth
> > of AO7 at 327 deg with an elevation of -54.  It lasted a few minutes
> > and the followed the Doppler correction as shown on GPredict.  When I
> > pointed my antenna to the GPredict azimuth for AO7 the signal strength
> > noticeably increased.
> >
> >   Does this also happen on 2M?
> >
> >     Ron VE8RT
> >
> > --
> > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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-- 
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From bwilkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 00:03:51 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 20:03:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] odd phenomena AO7 ?
In-Reply-To: <20200407175241.d050cbf805b7ceee8d2f896e@yknwt.ca>
References: <20200407153640.4ee4d31a4b9f853488d247db@yknwt.ca>
	<CAJCSnOa+=sDjc958SyNE4qZEVQDAfJyK0yKd3it26wi5Uhmt0g@mail.gmail.com>
	<20200407175241.d050cbf805b7ceee8d2f896e@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq32cduvDHY3xyY+HJ+arxD9Pqq9dK+codWcjgVTPWTABzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Another plausible idea is that someone was practicing CW on 145.948 and you
happened to pick it up locally. Seems like an odd frequency to practice on
however it cannot be ruled out

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:55 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
>    I tried to get an audio sample of the beacon, but no luck.  After
> spending some time downloading a few files (long, slow download)
> identified as CW at the satnoggs site I had to give up, there was no
> identifiable Morse on the ones I downloaded.
>
>    So I can't say that it wasn't Move II, the CW was at about 25wpm,
> some longer dashes, it appeared to me to be random, definitely no
> audible data.
>
>    Too bad I didn't record it.
>
>      Ron VE8RT
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:02:59 -0400
> Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Good day, Ron!
> >
> > Satellite 'Move-2' was west of your location around that time & is
> supposed
> > to have a beacon on 145.950.  So, that's a possible source.
> >
> > https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/move-2-orbit.png
> >
> > https://www.move2space.de/MOVE-II/satellite/radio-amateurs/
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> >
> > =======================
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 5:38 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   back in the late 80's and early 90's I'd heard this on the HF sats
> > > that downlinked on 10M, but not on 2M.
> > >
> > >  While looking at future satellite plots I had the receiver tuned to
> > > the mid band of the AO7 downlink and I'm hearing CW (145.948 MHz).
> > > There are no amateur satellites above my horizon, anywhere.  It was
> > > very clear, sounded like someone listening for their output, long
> > > dashes, bursts of CW, pauses, more of the same.  I thought that I'd
> > > recorded it, but I didn't press the record button long enough and have
> > > nothing to show for it.  GPredict, at about 21:12 UTC had the azimuth
> > > of AO7 at 327 deg with an elevation of -54.  It lasted a few minutes
> > > and the followed the Doppler correction as shown on GPredict.  When I
> > > pointed my antenna to the GPredict azimuth for AO7 the signal strength
> > > noticeably increased.
> > >
> > >   Does this also happen on 2M?
> > >
> > >     Ron VE8RT
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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KO4AQF

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Wed Apr  8 00:37:24 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:37:24 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] odd phenomena AO7 ?
In-Reply-To: <CAO_Eq32cduvDHY3xyY+HJ+arxD9Pqq9dK+codWcjgVTPWTABzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200407153640.4ee4d31a4b9f853488d247db@yknwt.ca>
	<CAJCSnOa+=sDjc958SyNE4qZEVQDAfJyK0yKd3it26wi5Uhmt0g@mail.gmail.com>
	<20200407175241.d050cbf805b7ceee8d2f896e@yknwt.ca>
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Message-ID: <20200407183724.5674b72bbcf6938b04ef30ec@yknwt.ca>

Hi Brian,

   I could wish that there was another CW operator within VHF range
here :-)  The MOVE II satellite beacon sounds likely as there was
definitely Doppler (negative, it was moving away at 21:12) shift on
it.  But I appreciate the helpful speculation.

    Ron VE8RT

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 20:03:51 -0400
Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Another plausible idea is that someone was practicing CW on 145.948 and you
> happened to pick it up locally. Seems like an odd frequency to practice on
> however it cannot be ruled out
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:55 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> >    I tried to get an audio sample of the beacon, but no luck.  After
> > spending some time downloading a few files (long, slow download)
> > identified as CW at the satnoggs site I had to give up, there was no
> > identifiable Morse on the ones I downloaded.
> >
> >    So I can't say that it wasn't Move II, the CW was at about 25wpm,
> > some longer dashes, it appeared to me to be random, definitely no
> > audible data.
> >
> >    Too bad I didn't record it.
> >
> >      Ron VE8RT
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:02:59 -0400
> > Scott via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Good day, Ron!
> > >
> > > Satellite 'Move-2' was west of your location around that time & is
> > supposed
> > > to have a beacon on 145.950.  So, that's a possible source.
> > >
> > > https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/move-2-orbit.png
> > >
> > > https://www.move2space.de/MOVE-II/satellite/radio-amateurs/
> > >
> > > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > >
> > > =======================
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 5:38 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >   back in the late 80's and early 90's I'd heard this on the HF sats
> > > > that downlinked on 10M, but not on 2M.
> > > >
> > > >  While looking at future satellite plots I had the receiver tuned to
> > > > the mid band of the AO7 downlink and I'm hearing CW (145.948 MHz).
> > > > There are no amateur satellites above my horizon, anywhere.  It was
> > > > very clear, sounded like someone listening for their output, long
> > > > dashes, bursts of CW, pauses, more of the same.  I thought that I'd
> > > > recorded it, but I didn't press the record button long enough and have
> > > > nothing to show for it.  GPredict, at about 21:12 UTC had the azimuth
> > > > of AO7 at 327 deg with an elevation of -54.  It lasted a few minutes
> > > > and the followed the Doppler correction as shown on GPredict.  When I
> > > > pointed my antenna to the GPredict azimuth for AO7 the signal strength
> > > > noticeably increased.
> > > >
> > > >   Does this also happen on 2M?
> > > >
> > > >     Ron VE8RT
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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> KO4AQF


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From w7lrd at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 02:08:10 2020
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 19:08:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] sun/moon
Message-ID: <2076556663.189729.1586311690643@connect.xfinity.com>

where is the sun/moon tracker in satpc32?  Can't find it.
73 Bob W7LRD






From ka3hsw at att.net  Wed Apr  8 03:59:49 2020
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:59:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] sun/moon
In-Reply-To: <2076556663.189729.1586311690643@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <2076556663.189729.1586311690643@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <D6A4A1709020420B807EB674A89D61AF@RadioRoomPC>

SuM.exe, in the SatPC32 folder.

George, KA3HSW



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Subject: [amsat-bb] sun/moon

where is the sun/moon tracker in satpc32?  Can't find it.
73 Bob W7LRD





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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 19:06:21 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 12:06:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
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References: <89697847.1617202.1585101785285@mail.yahoo.com>
	<46C460D7-9D30-4BDE-A6FB-92F98BC2FF5B@gmail.com>
	<CABX7KxUf8Vg8xZ2Uaao8O5-DgMtPBpU4Rwas0UVYb-W7_Ja8Sw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1839567489.2164615.1586295636548@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OorGou=4aVXzx+X19e2PTKSK4cktt-afr8bUiqPc5zXAA@mail.gmail.com>

Tell me if I'm a poor operator.

Bob W7OTJ

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:47 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>  Burns (WB1FJ, I think maybe),
> I agree that there should always be room for a QSOlike that. If we ever
> get to a place in Ham Radio whereanyone is criticized for making a contact
> together withtheir Child/Grandchild/Spouse/Friend, we're done!
>
> 73,   Bob  K8BL
>     On Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 12:26:21 PM EDT, Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  I agree that "never" is too strong.  I've used this example before, but--a
> few years ago, I set up a sched with a friend in Ontario to talk briefly
> with my grandson so the grandson could have a chance to do a satellite and
> get a QSL card and maybe plant a seed of interest in amateur radio.  It all
> came off, they spent maybe 30 sec talking, and then we signed off and
> thanked everyone for making a 8-year-old's day.  Those who were waiting
> were kind and considerate.  I would not do that if there was a rover on, of
> course, but once in a while, I think it is fair to make an exception for a
> kid, a class, a demo, etc.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:13 PM Chris Hoffman, KG6O via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > I agree ?Never? is incredibly strong. Perhaps ?...should be avoided if at
> > all possible...??
> >
> > In my opinion, the problem is not QRM or congestion. The problem is
> > welcomeness.
> >
> > The problem is that new operators continually hear banter and ?... it?s a
> > nice morning here, Bob...? then when they try to squeeze in a contact
> > ?after the conversation is over? they are instead crushed by other
> > operators also trying to respect boundaries on an 8min pass.
> >
> > The problem is that new operators have told me they perceive what are
> > obviously repeated contacts as an expression of territory, and they put
> > down the antenna for good.
> >
> > The problem is the assumption that it?s ?...NOT a busy pass.? That very
> > idea serves to disenfranchise, devalue, and repel new operators, making
> it
> > a self-fulfilling prophecy. Save Repeated Contacts ?short or long? for
> > EMail or HF: it should ALWAYS be considered to be a ?busy pass? until we
> > have available passes every 5 minutes.
> >
> > I challenge the experienced ?regular? operators to stay off the PTT,
> > listen for the new contacts that will inevitably show up,  and remember
> > that ?in the aggregate? any open transponder time is an invitation for
> new
> > operators.
> >
> > /CH
> > KG6O
> > kg6o at arrl.net
> >
> > > On Mar 24, 2020, at 19:06, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ? It all depends on the situation. If it is a busy pass and others are
> > > trying to make a QSO with a specific station since they are a Rover
> > > or DX or rare somehow or New, just step aside if you don't need or
> > > want that station. If it is NOT a busy pass, there should be no problem
> > > with calling any station for any reason as long as you are not QRMing
> > > an existing QSO in progress. How easy is it to just LISTEN and hear
> > > what is going on and act accordingly? Just like on other Bands or
> > > Modes or Repeaters, DON'T transmit on top of a busy frequency. BTW,
> > > if you can't hear other stations or the Beacon on a pass, it would not
> > > be good to do a lot of transmitting since you may be causing a lot of
> > > QRM to other users. Listening to several passes without hearing other
> > > stations probably indicates you have a RX problem. When setting up
> > > a station, always make sure you are hearing well before ever trying
> > > to transmit.
> > >
> > > GL/73/Enjoy, Bob K8BL
> > >    On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:46:00 PM EDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF
> > via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
> > > multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by case
> > > basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if this
> > is
> > > a problem.
> > >
> > > Brian Wilkins
> > > KO4AQF
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
> > >>> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
> > >> station
> > >>> if you have already worked them before.  Let others get a chance.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Never" is a powerful word.  There are plenty of passes that I've
> worked
> > >> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
> > >> worked plenty of times before.    Weekday morning passes are typical
> > >> examples.  I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least
> modifying
> > it
> > >> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests
> > good
> > >> operating habits that cover this).
> > >>
> > >> --Roy
> > >> K3RLD
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > >> expressed
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> > >> AMSAT-NA.
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Wed Apr  8 19:42:12 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:42:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEOpack tuning
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnC_fJDSz9cS50JfHfX0OwC=nxaYBzkHq2urvqC1L+=wwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just to follow up on this, I pretty much took the antenna apart --
removed all of the phasing harnesses to make sure the connectors were
clean, dry, and free of corrosion. I also removed the aluminum
"blocks" and made sure the boom was clean underneath them, per the
suggestions here. When I replaced the harnesses, I was very careful to
arrange them precisely as shown in the assembly instructions (I had a
couple of them not quite right). Then, I put the antenna analyzer on
and messed with the matching sliders until I got the SWR down to 1.2:1
at 145.9 MHz. Quite an improvement!

Thank you for all of the suggestions -- especially regarding the dress
of the harnesses. I think that was the big one.

Unfortunately, when I put the antenna back on the roof, it still
receives like a dummy load. I think I must have a bad piece of coax.
That will be the next project.

See you on the birds (eventually).
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 7:57 AM Mark D. Johns <mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu> wrote:
>
> I?ve had my LEOpack antennas about 8 years, but over the winter my station became almost totally deaf on 2 meters. I took the 2 meter beam down and cleaned up a bunch of corrosion around the coax connector, and that seems to have helped the situation, but...
>
> I checked the antenna with my MFJ Antenna Analyzer (which I did not have back when I first assembled these antennas) and find that the 2 meter beam is resonant at about 143.95 MHz ? just below the 2 meter ham band. Up at 145.9, where I would LIKE it to be resonant, my SWR is about 2.5:1. Pretty high.
>
> Messing with the tuning sliders only made things worse (these adjust impedance and not necessarily resonance), so I?m wondering, has anyone else found it necessary to trim the elements on these?
>
> My calculations are that about 1/8? off each end of the DEs would bring it up the 2 MHz needed. Opinions?
> --
> ***Sent from Gmail on iPhone***
> Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. K0JM
> Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at
> Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA
> Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn.
> ------------------------------------------------
> "Get the facts first. You can distort them later."
> ---Mark Twain

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Wed Apr  8 20:03:19 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:03:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEOpack tuning
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnC_fJDSz9cS50JfHfX0OwC=nxaYBzkHq2urvqC1L+=wwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHKCqnBD90PdWMf=a2i+VrPL7rpqqJJonZv+2bXj+kfmQccp6A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHKCqnC_fJDSz9cS50JfHfX0OwC=nxaYBzkHq2urvqC1L+=wwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e963ca1f-99d9-c1c0-9471-5ad07cede544@pobox.com>

On 04/08/20 14:42, Mark D. Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Unfortunately, when I put the antenna back on the roof, it still
> receives like a dummy load. I think I must have a bad piece of coax.
> That will be the next project.

Have you looked into something like the the NanoVNA as a diagnostic tool?

https://www.rtl-sdr.com/calculating-coax-length-by-using-a-nanovna-as-a-time-domain-reflectometer/

Very handy for only $50!

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From wandtosborne at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 21:28:08 2020
From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:28:08 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Rocket Recovery test
Message-ID: <b7858969-06bf-a1bc-cb60-59d91469955d@gmail.com>

Before New Zealand went into COVID-19 lockdown, the folks at Rocket Lab 
did a test to recover a first stage Electron rocket.

You can see the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CWGDhkmbs

There are some other videos of the view from the rocket and inside the 
helicopter.

73,

Terry Osborne ZL2BAC



From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 01:22:48 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:22:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OorGou=4aVXzx+X19e2PTKSK4cktt-afr8bUiqPc5zXAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89697847.1617202.1585101785285@mail.yahoo.com>
	<46C460D7-9D30-4BDE-A6FB-92F98BC2FF5B@gmail.com>
	<CABX7KxUf8Vg8xZ2Uaao8O5-DgMtPBpU4Rwas0UVYb-W7_Ja8Sw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1839567489.2164615.1586295636548@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAKoB7OorGou=4aVXzx+X19e2PTKSK4cktt-afr8bUiqPc5zXAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8Nqs2fWb4Fc5N80nVwsHEhwHwYOee5sN0id2vW1bED9Mg@mail.gmail.com>

Bob, your call has not burned itself into my memory, so I can neither
confirm nor deny if you are a poor operator; this is a good thing. There
are people on that list in my head. I can hear them saying their call in
their own voice... .. . . .  .   .

The repeat QSO's are annoying when there is a busy pass going on, but
sometimes it is easier to answer that call then to let them attempt it 3,
5, 8 more times; being a bit sarcastic here.  However, on dead passes, once
the bird has left most of the country, I have had some awesome rapid fire
everyone-work-everyone-else round tables. QSOs are finished, the next one
happens, everyone waiting as needed, ... those feel so good, even if you
have those people in your log 10s, 100s of times.

I was excited to have my son call CQ and talk to a station on a linear bird
once. He loved to hear his own voice coming out of the radio. I do not
think I will be likely to try it on an FM bird anytime soon. Heck, doing a
demo on an FM bird on a weekend, good luck. Fortunately I am on the right
coast and can pick the coastal leaning pass, if possible, or at least early
pass which seem to be slightly possible to make a few QSO's on with 5-10w
of power.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:12 PM Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Tell me if I'm a poor operator.
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:47 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >  Burns (WB1FJ, I think maybe),
> > I agree that there should always be room for a QSOlike that. If we ever
> > get to a place in Ham Radio whereanyone is criticized for making a
> contact
> > together withtheir Child/Grandchild/Spouse/Friend, we're done!
> >
> > 73,   Bob  K8BL
> >     On Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 12:26:21 PM EDT, Burns Fisher via
> AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  I agree that "never" is too strong.  I've used this example before,
> but--a
> > few years ago, I set up a sched with a friend in Ontario to talk briefly
> > with my grandson so the grandson could have a chance to do a satellite
> and
> > get a QSL card and maybe plant a seed of interest in amateur radio.  It
> all
> > came off, they spent maybe 30 sec talking, and then we signed off and
> > thanked everyone for making a 8-year-old's day.  Those who were waiting
> > were kind and considerate.  I would not do that if there was a rover on,
> of
> > course, but once in a while, I think it is fair to make an exception for
> a
> > kid, a class, a demo, etc.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:13 PM Chris Hoffman, KG6O via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree ?Never? is incredibly strong. Perhaps ?...should be avoided if
> at
> > > all possible...??
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the problem is not QRM or congestion. The problem is
> > > welcomeness.
> > >
> > > The problem is that new operators continually hear banter and ?...
> it?s a
> > > nice morning here, Bob...? then when they try to squeeze in a contact
> > > ?after the conversation is over? they are instead crushed by other
> > > operators also trying to respect boundaries on an 8min pass.
> > >
> > > The problem is that new operators have told me they perceive what are
> > > obviously repeated contacts as an expression of territory, and they put
> > > down the antenna for good.
> > >
> > > The problem is the assumption that it?s ?...NOT a busy pass.? That very
> > > idea serves to disenfranchise, devalue, and repel new operators, making
> > it
> > > a self-fulfilling prophecy. Save Repeated Contacts ?short or long? for
> > > EMail or HF: it should ALWAYS be considered to be a ?busy pass? until
> we
> > > have available passes every 5 minutes.
> > >
> > > I challenge the experienced ?regular? operators to stay off the PTT,
> > > listen for the new contacts that will inevitably show up,  and remember
> > > that ?in the aggregate? any open transponder time is an invitation for
> > new
> > > operators.
> > >
> > > /CH
> > > KG6O
> > > kg6o at arrl.net
> > >
> > > > On Mar 24, 2020, at 19:06, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ? It all depends on the situation. If it is a busy pass and others
> are
> > > > trying to make a QSO with a specific station since they are a Rover
> > > > or DX or rare somehow or New, just step aside if you don't need or
> > > > want that station. If it is NOT a busy pass, there should be no
> problem
> > > > with calling any station for any reason as long as you are not QRMing
> > > > an existing QSO in progress. How easy is it to just LISTEN and hear
> > > > what is going on and act accordingly? Just like on other Bands or
> > > > Modes or Repeaters, DON'T transmit on top of a busy frequency. BTW,
> > > > if you can't hear other stations or the Beacon on a pass, it would
> not
> > > > be good to do a lot of transmitting since you may be causing a lot of
> > > > QRM to other users. Listening to several passes without hearing other
> > > > stations probably indicates you have a RX problem. When setting up
> > > > a station, always make sure you are hearing well before ever trying
> > > > to transmit.
> > > >
> > > > GL/73/Enjoy, Bob K8BL
> > > >    On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:46:00 PM EDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF
> > > via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
> > > > multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by
> case
> > > > basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if
> this
> > > is
> > > > a problem.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Wilkins
> > > > KO4AQF
> > > >
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at
> length
> > > >>> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
> > > >> station
> > > >>> if you have already worked them before.  Let others get a chance.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Never" is a powerful word.  There are plenty of passes that I've
> > worked
> > > >> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that
> I've
> > > >> worked plenty of times before.    Weekday morning passes are typical
> > > >> examples.  I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least
> > modifying
> > > it
> > > >> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already
> suggests
> > > good
> > > >> operating habits that cover this).
> > > >>
> > > >> --Roy
> > > >> K3RLD
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From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 01:28:24 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:28:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
	<CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>

As an example of what Paul is talking about, CAS-4B is known as:  ZHUHAI-1
02 (CAS 4B).

It might not be found in the list if you were only looking for CAS-4B.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:13 PM Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Which satellites don't you have data for? Some may be listed under
> their non-OSCAR names in GPredict.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:39 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >   I rely a lot on the AMSAT frequency guide, to at least double check
> > the software (GPredict).  There are several satillites listed on the
> > April 2019 (latest guide I have) that I have no data for, TLE's or
> > transponder.  Maybe if I'd been following this list more closely I'd be
> > up to date.  They are no longer in service, or would I find them
> > identified as something else?
> >
> >   My 475 CAT control worked very well on the latest pass of XW-2B, too
> > bad I couldn't hear anyone else on the west coast.
> >
> >    Ron VE8RT
> >
> > --
> > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


-- 
73,
Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 02:43:27 2020
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:43:27 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
	<CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b128f88b-b27a-54a5-8850-7d63eaff4856@gmail.com>

It would be really handy if the Guide would list the satellite's catalog
number under the name.  That's universal.

Greg  KO6TH


Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> As an example of what Paul is talking about, CAS-4B is known as:  ZHUHAI-1
> 02 (CAS 4B).
>
> It might not be found in the list if you were only looking for CAS-4B.
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:13 PM Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Which satellites don't you have data for? Some may be listed under
>> their non-OSCAR names in GPredict.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:39 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>   I rely a lot on the AMSAT frequency guide, to at least double check
>>> the software (GPredict).  There are several satillites listed on the
>>> April 2019 (latest guide I have) that I have no data for, TLE's or
>>> transponder.  Maybe if I'd been following this list more closely I'd be
>>> up to date.  They are no longer in service, or would I find them
>>> identified as something else?
>>>
>>>   My 475 CAT control worked very well on the latest pass of XW-2B, too
>>> bad I couldn't hear anyone else on the west coast.
>>>
>>>    Ron VE8RT
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 03:22:01 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 23:22:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <b128f88b-b27a-54a5-8850-7d63eaff4856@gmail.com>
References: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
	<CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>
	<b128f88b-b27a-54a5-8850-7d63eaff4856@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKM6Eh+WOxY8KQLY8qHUwXxW-A4W9eHuKtgLY1AsLkExKA@mail.gmail.com>

The Getting Started book lists the catalog number :-)

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:45 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> It would be really handy if the Guide would list the satellite's catalog
> number under the name.  That's universal.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > As an example of what Paul is talking about, CAS-4B is known as:  ZHUHAI-1
> > 02 (CAS 4B).
> >
> > It might not be found in the list if you were only looking for CAS-4B.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:13 PM Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Ron,
> >>
> >> Which satellites don't you have data for? Some may be listed under
> >> their non-OSCAR names in GPredict.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Paul, N8HM
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:39 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB
> >> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>>   I rely a lot on the AMSAT frequency guide, to at least double check
> >>> the software (GPredict).  There are several satillites listed on the
> >>> April 2019 (latest guide I have) that I have no data for, TLE's or
> >>> transponder.  Maybe if I'd been following this list more closely I'd be
> >>> up to date.  They are no longer in service, or would I find them
> >>> identified as something else?
> >>>
> >>>   My 475 CAT control worked very well on the latest pass of XW-2B, too
> >>> bad I couldn't hear anyone else on the west coast.
> >>>
> >>>    Ron VE8RT
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Thu Apr  9 03:35:09 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:35:09 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
	<CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200408213509.31e5af31847d32a1ff768ea9@yknwt.ca>

Thank you all,

   I've found most of them, and added to my active list the ones that
appear to be working.

    Ron

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:28:24 -0400
Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com> wrote:

> As an example of what Paul is talking about, CAS-4B is known as:  ZHUHAI-1
> 02 (CAS 4B).
> 
> It might not be found in the list if you were only looking for CAS-4B.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:13 PM Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> > Ron,
> >
> > Which satellites don't you have data for? Some may be listed under
> > their non-OSCAR names in GPredict.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 03:43:09 2020
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:43:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKM6Eh+WOxY8KQLY8qHUwXxW-A4W9eHuKtgLY1AsLkExKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200407102407.716badba2c1c09998193b1bb@yknwt.ca>
	<CABzOSOp5CjAtiEFY7wJ5n0MLb_kJk+bWVwPvuKAtNF-F08cmUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8PAh=tyQRhdngivenuRpHZo5ELxzd8HWhDQoNCb9d57eg@mail.gmail.com>
	<b128f88b-b27a-54a5-8850-7d63eaff4856@gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKM6Eh+WOxY8KQLY8qHUwXxW-A4W9eHuKtgLY1AsLkExKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4baf0e55-a4b1-163b-1dde-edc80da6e8cd@gmail.com>

Yes, but the Frequency Guide sits nicely under my satellite rig, so it's
always handy.

Greg  KO6TH


John Brier wrote:
> The Getting Started book lists the catalog number :-)
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:45 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> It would be really handy if the Guide would list the satellite's catalog
>> number under the name.  That's universal.
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>


From gw1fky at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 10:35:13 2020
From: gw1fky at aol.com (gw1fky at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:35:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 and Move-11 - Move-11b
References: <144804240.3016168.1586428513537.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <144804240.3016168.1586428513537@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,I noted the comments and reports regarding sources of signals being received whilst monitoring AO-7.I am located in Wales ( UK ) and use a simple "ELK " antenna and "Funcube" dongle for monitoringmany of the satellites.I can confirm that recently whilst monitoring? I noted strong signals in the band with the software forFox satellites and others during pass times in the morning and late evening.I checked out both MOVE -11? ( Operates 145.950 Mhz ) and MOVE- 11b ( Operates 145.840 Mhz ).
The signals were very strong and ?the Fox Telemetry software in auto? late yesterday evening(8th April )? Move-11b on 145.840 and quite wide - It prevented the software from locking onto the Foxsatellite that I was tracking at times.Ken EatonGW1FKY

From aj9n at aol.com  Wed Apr  8 22:43:17 2020
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 22:43:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-08 22:30
	UTC
References: <2095243916.1856049.1586385797356.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2095243916.1856049.1586385797356@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-08 22:30 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

TBD

?

?

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?

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for when you are not playing on your radio?? Check out these links:?? 

?

?

>From ARISS Vice Chair Oliver Amend DG6BCE: ESA Astronauts to offer inspiration during isolation in?????  #SpaceConnectsUs

?

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Astronauts_to_offer_inspiration_during_isolation_in_SpaceConnectsU

In Europe and around the world, we?ve been getting used to a different way of living in recent weeks. On Thursday, 26 March, ESA and long-time partner Asteroid Day will host #SpaceConnectsUs ? a chance to connect across borders and hear from space explorers, artists, and scientists about how to manage ourselves and our environment as our communities battle a global pandemic.

#SpaceConnectsUs is an online event running on March 26th from 16:00?21:00 CET (15:00?20:00 GMT) on ESA WebTV and ESA YouTube to help everyone practising social distancing or in isolation enjoy science, our home planet, and our dreams of the sky above us. 

The programme will feature remote connections with astronauts and guests from all over the world.? The presenters and guests will speak to children, young adults and their families and friends about their experience and techniques in confined places, lessons in life from space exploration, their trust in science and their sources of inspiration.? The programme runs in five language segments starting at 16:00 in Dutch, followed by German (17:00 CET), Italian (18:00 CET), French (19:00 CET) and English (20:00 CET, 19:00 GMT).

?

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.? By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.? Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy, Nature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World.? Check out:? https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard 

?

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.? Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem 

?

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?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? 

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? 

?

Postponed:

SPDW Voortrekker Movement, Oranjeville, South Africa, direct via ZS9SPD

RO-SAT One, Piatra-Neam?, Romania, direct via YR?ISS

McConnell Middle School, Loganville, GA, prefer direct via KD4TGR

Monroe Carrell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt, Nashville, TN, direct via N4FR

Oakwood School, Morgan Hill, CA, direct via AE6XM

Ramona Lutheran School, Ramona, CA, direct via N6ROR

?

Cancelled:

Electromagnetic Field, Ledbury, United Kingdom, direct via GB4EMF

?

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-04-08 22:30 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-03-21 00:00 UTC. 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station?

?

Contact Opportunity?

?

Call for Proposals?

?

Upcoming Proposal Window is February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 

?

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Program is seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations, individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew member on board the ISS.? ARISS is happy to announce a proposal window will open February 1, 2020 for contacts that would be held between January 1, 2021 and June 30, 2021. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education plan.?

?

The proposal window for contacts between January 1, 2021 and June 30, 2021 will open on February 1, 2020 and close on March 31, 2020.? Proposal information and documents can be found at www.ariss.org. Two ARISS Introductory Webinar sessions will be held on November 7, 2019. The first is at 6:00 PM ET and the second is at 9:00 PM ET. The same material will be covered during both sessions, so choose the session that best fits your schedule. The Eventbrite link to sign up is?https://ariss-introductory-webinar-fall-2019.eventbrite.com?.

?

The Opportunity?

?

Crew members aboard the International Space Station will participate in scheduled Amateur Radio contacts. These radio contacts are approximately 10 minutes in length and allow students to interact with the astronauts through a question-and-answer session.?

?

An ARISS contact is a voice-only communication opportunity via Amateur Radio between astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the space station and classrooms and communities. ARISS contacts afford education audiences the opportunity to learn firsthand from astronauts what it is like to live and work in space and to learn about space research conducted on the ISS. Students also will have an opportunity to learn about satellite communication, wireless technology, and radio science. Because of the nature of human spaceflight and the complexity of scheduling activities aboard the ISS, organizations must demonstrate flexibility to accommodate changes in dates and times of the radio contact.?

?

Amateur Radio organizations around the world with the support of NASA and space agencies in Russia, Canada, Japan and Europe present educational organizations with this opportunity. The ham radio organizations' volunteer efforts provide the equipment and operational support to enable communication between crew on the ISS and students around the world using Amateur Radio.??

?

More Information

?

For proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com.?

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 

Sergey RV3DR with 133 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1387. 

Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? 

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1320. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. 

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 60 on orbit 

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

Exp. 61 on orbit 

Oleg Skripochka

Jessica Meir

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?



From eromagni at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 14:48:00 2020
From: eromagni at gmail.com (The Romagni's)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:48:00 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] OA4 on AO7
Message-ID: <CAHyAO8gdd2NcFpxUvhM5Gk-zsHPQmYM5TtfwpK+uC_rZvrn++g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I have spend my stay-at-home time hunting... OA4/XQ3SA has been very active
on AO7... after 4 days yesterday finally got him, we have a very small
window between EM55 and FH17; The old but trusted AO7 came thru for me.
Looking at my records that is the longest qso so far I have done via the
birds, around 3385 miles.

He seem to have some local QRN, but he is there on almost every afternoon
pass.

73

Steve
W4DTA

From kj9idave at charter.net  Thu Apr  9 17:01:33 2020
From: kj9idave at charter.net (David J. Schmocker)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:01:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] OA4 on AO7
In-Reply-To: <CAHyAO8gdd2NcFpxUvhM5Gk-zsHPQmYM5TtfwpK+uC_rZvrn++g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHyAO8gdd2NcFpxUvhM5Gk-zsHPQmYM5TtfwpK+uC_rZvrn++g@mail.gmail.com>
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Congratulations Steve!? Nice going!

73,
Dave KJ9I

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> Hello all,
>
> I have spend my stay-at-home time hunting... OA4/XQ3SA has been very active
> on AO7... after 4 days yesterday finally got him, we have a very small
> window between EM55 and FH17; The old but trusted AO7 came thru for me.
> Looking at my records that is the longest qso so far I have done via the
> birds, around 3385 miles.
>
> He seem to have some local QRN, but he is there on almost every afternoon
> pass.
>
> 73
>
> Steve
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Thu Apr  9 19:12:57 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:12:57 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
Message-ID: <20200409131257.41227b578b3c9174b946b295@yknwt.ca>

  I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any
suggested recorders?

    Ron VE8RT DP22

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From corlissbs at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 19:45:01 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:45:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorder
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<I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Anysuggested recorders?>
I just use my iPhone. That way I don't have to haul and charge another item.? Brad KC9UQR


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 19:45:34 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:45:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
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This Sony ICD-PX370 I believe is popular with satops. I looked into it and
saw it was mp3 only and mono, not stereo. For editing videos wav is
desirable and stereo is nice as one day I might use one channel for ambient
and one for radio.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICDPX370-Digital-Recorder-Built/dp/B06XFTWCBJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sony+audio+recorder+icd-px370&qid=1586461199&sr=8-3

I found the slightly more expensive ICD-PX470 with stereo and wav recording
and got that. Most won't need those features though.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XTX2S2N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_QR3JEb4HRJJZW

73, John Brier KG4AKV

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wrote:

>   I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any
> suggested recorders?
>
>     Ron VE8RT DP22
>
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From bkeating1954 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 19:46:18 2020
From: bkeating1954 at gmail.com (Bob Keating)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:46:18 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
In-Reply-To: <20200409131257.41227b578b3c9174b946b295@yknwt.ca>
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Hi Ron,

I really like my TASCAM DR-5 compact digital recorder. It is about the 
size of an HT, I run an 1/8' patch cord from the headphone out jack on 
my YeasuFT-60R into the MIC/LINE IN jack on the recorder and then plug 
my headphones into the Headphone/Line Out jack on recorder. I am able to 
record the satellite pass and not have to worry about writing down call 
signs. I come back later in the evening and use a USB patch cord to 
connect to my computer and then log my QSOs to LoTW. Good luck!

73,

Bob N6REK

On 4/9/2020 12:12 PM, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>    I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any
> suggested recorders?
>
>      Ron VE8RT DP22
>

From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Thu Apr  9 19:51:20 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:51:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
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Message-ID: <1355429714.3493216.1586461880335@mail.yahoo.com>

Avoid Philips DVT2000 or DVT2050 (counter-intuitive controls and memory needs reprogramming each time the batteries are changed).
I can recommend the Olympus VN-722PC.
Look for micro?SD storage and USB connectivity?


On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:23 PM, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

? I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Any
suggested recorders?

? ? Ron VE8RT DP22

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From jplanner at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr  9 20:01:17 2020
From: jplanner at sbcglobal.net (Gerald Witalec)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:01:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorder
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 Brad, I like my Sony ICD-B600 for various projects. Just a thought , but I'm sure there are others.
Jerry...W8RQM

    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:45:39 PM EDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 <I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Anysuggested recorders?>
I just use my iPhone. That way I don't have to haul and charge another item.? Brad KC9UQR

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From saguaroastro at cox.net  Thu Apr  9 20:04:21 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 13:04:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
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Use a SONY ICD-PX820. Nexpensive, Small & lightweight and plugs into your computer via a mini USB port. It the is like a removable storage device. I rename the file? and drag it to a folder on my hard drive.?Uses 2 AAA which last quit a long time.?73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 4/9/20  12:22  (GMT-07:00) To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder? ? I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Anysuggested recorders???? Ron VE8RT DP22-- Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Thu Apr  9 20:17:21 2020
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:17:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
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I like the SONY ICD-PX440 or equivalent.

It has a built-in USB connector for convenient transfer.

It it also configured to be wired inline, so your audio out and headphones both connect to it.

If you don't hear anything in the headphones, something is misconfigured. I like that.

Not sure how it handles in a cold environment.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
>  I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any
> suggested recorders?
> 
>    Ron VE8RT DP22
> 
> -- 
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From kb7wsd at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 20:32:19 2020
From: kb7wsd at gmail.com (Grant Hopper)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:32:19 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
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I really like my Olympus.  I paid $105 when I got it.
The important features were the fact that it has a backlight, is stereo,
accepts MicroSD, and can use either alkaline or rechargeables with the
ability to recharge internally.  Sony had one that was equally perfect but
discontinued it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019G8LNL6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00

73,
Grant
KB7WSD

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:24 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>   I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any
> suggested recorders?
>
>     Ron VE8RT DP22
>
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From aa5uk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  9 20:35:07 2020
From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:35:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
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 Excellent recorder I use the same one.? Got mine as a refurbished unit on eBay.? I have two, one I keep as a spare. 
Make sure you change the configuration to INPUT from MIC if you split the audio out of the radio audio jack. 
Play with the audio sensitivity settings until you get clean recordings. 

Just plug it into your PC USB port and Drag and drop the files into the PC folder of choice. 

73, Adrian AA5UK




    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:19:13 PM CDT, Bryan KL7CN via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I like the SONY ICD-PX440 or equivalent.

It has a built-in USB connector for convenient transfer.

It it also configured to be wired inline, so your audio out and headphones both connect to it.

If you don't hear anything in the headphones, something is misconfigured. I like that.

Not sure how it handles in a cold environment.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
>? I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Any
> suggested recorders?
> 
>? ? Ron VE8RT DP22
> 
> -- 
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr  9 20:51:15 2020
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:51:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorder
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 Very true, an old smart phone is a gold mine for satellite ops, to name a few it provides - 

Clock,Calendar - to alert before the pass, 
AmsatDroid app - satellite tracker, Voice Recorder and Player app, 
Compass app - to get your bearings right, 
Built-in Camera to capture photos or videos, Built-in WiFi to transfer audio and pictures to computer or internet, ? 
A Flash-light app - if you dropped something, 
Very light and small... straps on your arm for hands-free operation. etc...
Connecting HT's audio out with a Y-cable to headphone and smartphone, provides super clean audio ! 
In some cases, the WiFi can also be used to live-stream audio/video for demonstration purposes.? 
?
Just my 2 cents. 
? 
73!? 
Umesh? 
k6vug? 
?
?
    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 12:45:39 PM PDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 <I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Anysuggested recorders?>
I just use my iPhone. That way I don't have to haul and charge another item.? Brad KC9UQR

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From bwilkins at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 20:56:57 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:56:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorder
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I use iPhone as well. Saves on money. Already own one

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:55 PM k6vug--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>  Very true, an old smart phone is a gold mine for satellite ops, to name a
> few it provides -
>
> Clock,Calendar - to alert before the pass,
> AmsatDroid app - satellite tracker, Voice Recorder and Player app,
> Compass app - to get your bearings right,
> Built-in Camera to capture photos or videos, Built-in WiFi to transfer
> audio and pictures to computer or internet,
> A Flash-light app - if you dropped something,
> Very light and small... straps on your arm for hands-free operation. etc...
> Connecting HT's audio out with a Y-cable to headphone and smartphone,
> provides super clean audio !
> In some cases, the WiFi can also be used to live-stream audio/video for
> demonstration purposes.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> 73!
> Umesh
> k6vug
>
>
>     On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 12:45:39 PM PDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>  <I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Anysuggested
> recorders?>
> I just use my iPhone. That way I don't have to haul and charge another
> item.  Brad KC9UQR
>
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From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr  9 21:02:50 2020
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:02:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorder
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 Almost forgot the obvious - 

Built-in GPS to keep the pass times accurate while roving or mobile, 
and also to SOS your position via satellite if you get lost in the woods ! 
?
Umesh, k6vug 
?
?

    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 1:53:46 PM PDT, k6vug--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
  Very true, an old smart phone is a gold mine for satellite ops, to name a few it provides - 

Clock,Calendar - to alert before the pass, 
AmsatDroid app - satellite tracker, Voice Recorder and Player app, 
Compass app - to get your bearings right, 
Built-in Camera to capture photos or videos, Built-in WiFi to transfer audio and pictures to computer or internet, ? 
A Flash-light app - if you dropped something, 
Very light and small... straps on your arm for hands-free operation. etc...
Connecting HT's audio out with a Y-cable to headphone and smartphone, provides super clean audio ! 
In some cases, the WiFi can also be used to live-stream audio/video for demonstration purposes.? 
?
Just my 2 cents. 
? 
73!? 
Umesh? 
k6vug? 
?
?
? ? On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 12:45:39 PM PDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:? 
 
 <I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Anysuggested recorders?>
I just use my iPhone. That way I don't have to haul and charge another item.? Brad KC9UQR

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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Thu Apr  9 21:04:00 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:04:00 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder? time stamps?
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Wow, I got a lot of replies, thanks for the recommendations and the "do
not buy this" comments.  I should have asked, do any of these put a
date/time stamp on the file?  A stereo one may have an advantage, a
live mic on one channel, and a line in on the other.

   Ron VE8RT

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:12:57 -0600
Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>   I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any
> suggested recorders?
> 
>     Ron VE8RT DP22
> 
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From clintbradford at mac.com  Thu Apr  9 21:16:00 2020
From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 14:16:00 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorder
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How about the simple Voice Record app on your SmartPhone - in 
your shirt pocket?

Clint Bradford K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com <http://www.work-sat.com/>



From kd4iz at frawg.org  Thu Apr  9 19:38:22 2020
From: kd4iz at frawg.org (kd4iz at frawg.org)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:38:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
In-Reply-To: <20200409131257.41227b578b3c9174b946b295@yknwt.ca>
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Ron,
I have used both a ZOOM H1n or my iPhone. The H1n is much more convenient. I
use it for all kinds of recording tasks including various radio sessions.
Small, light, and good quality... Also has a 1/4" camera type mount that can
be used on tripods, clamp-ons, and goosenecks. Line in feature works well as
does the built in stereo mic. USB or micro SD card transfer is possible.
Jack
KD4IZ
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  I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any suggested
recorders?

    Ron VE8RT DP22

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From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Thu Apr  9 21:36:27 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:36:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder? time stamps?
In-Reply-To: <20200409150400.91058fb0e6240637c867fae8@yknwt.ca>
References: <20200409131257.41227b578b3c9174b946b295@yknwt.ca>
	<20200409150400.91058fb0e6240637c867fae8@yknwt.ca>
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For the features you have had recommended a date/time stamp should certainly be part of the package. In fact, that is the programming I referred to previously.Another thing to consider is your radio output and the recorder input. It may be worth spending a couple of extra dollars on a mono-to-stereo adapter.


On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 5:17 PM, Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

Wow, I got a lot of replies, thanks for the recommendations and the "do
not buy this" comments.? I should have asked, do any of these put a
date/time stamp on the file?? A stereo one may have an advantage, a
live mic on one channel, and a line in on the other.

? Ron VE8RT

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:12:57 -0600
Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>? I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Any
> suggested recorders?
> 
>? ? Ron VE8RT DP22
> 
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Thu Apr  9 22:41:54 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:41:54 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
In-Reply-To: <004b01d60ea6$6efbe410$4cf3ac30$@frawg.org>
References: <20200409131257.41227b578b3c9174b946b295@yknwt.ca>
	<004b01d60ea6$6efbe410$4cf3ac30$@frawg.org>
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Hi jack,

  I'm going to look into it, nice set of additional features.

   73  Ron VE8RT

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:38:22 -0400
Jack Spitznagel via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Ron,
> I have used both a ZOOM H1n or my iPhone. The H1n is much more convenient. I
> use it for all kinds of recording tasks including various radio sessions.
> Small, light, and good quality... Also has a 1/4" camera type mount that can
> be used on tripods, clamp-ons, and goosenecks. Line in feature works well as
> does the built in stereo mic. USB or micro SD card transfer is possible.
> Jack
> KD4IZ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT via
> AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 15:13
> To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
> 
>   I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.  Any suggested
> recorders?
> 
>     Ron VE8RT DP22
> 
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 22:42:26 2020
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nick KE8AKW)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 18:42:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYu1CFeBXcP3068J-QkMy+thHAGAjCYxqEqz8vZvNdPn6Q@mail.gmail.com>

The best Audio Recorder is your ears, and a pen and a piece of paper :) But
if you dont have one hand free you might be better off with some type of a
inline audio recorder for sure!

73 Nick KE8AKW

From wizardofzid at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 22:44:55 2020
From: wizardofzid at gmail.com (Russ Kinner)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 15:44:55 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
Message-ID: <vn33gmuuvnquknrdxyxdwj4e.1586471542036@email.android.com>

I use an Olympus IEC JIS LR03 Which is also used to record classroom sessions.  Its about the size of a small candy bar and holds about 22 hrs. in mp3 format.  It has a built-in USB connector to get the files into a PC and a MIC micro phone jack along built in microphone.  Any electronic recorder should work fine with these minimum features.

I use Audacity to edit and change formats to get a file that can be emailed or placed on a file service such a Google or dropbox (there are several others if you record daily and need the space.)

WD9EWK among several others record most passes on FM birds that are in range.  He is only 25 miles away from me so hears the same passes as I do.  Look for someone near you if you want to check what other stations hear.  With receiver de-sense, you may not hear exactly what others do. 

There are resources to help on line if you do a little searching.  There is no one place to check but Amsat is a good starting point as is this message service.  I'm only 2+ months on the FM birds and I have a ways to go to have a good signal/operating practice but I'm much farther along due to on line info.  Keep asking questions when you need help.

Rusty. WA8ZID

From saguaroastro at cox.net  Thu Apr  9 22:58:31 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 15:58:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder? time stamps?
In-Reply-To: <20200409150400.91058fb0e6240637c867fae8@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <20200409225838.35BB98B80@lansing182.amsat.org>

The icd px820 does. I imagine most will.? When you open the device in you file explorer the date created will show the time stamp of when you pressed record. I set the time on the recorder to UTC eliminating the need for the math.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 4/9/20  14:17  (GMT-07:00) To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder? time stamps? Wow, I got a lot of replies, thanks for the recommendations and the "donot buy this" comments.? I should have asked, do any of these put adate/time stamp on the file?? A stereo one may have an advantage, alive mic on one channel, and a line in on the other.?? Ron VE8RTOn Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:12:57 -0600Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:>?? I should make a practice of recording my QSOs for logging.? Any> suggested recorders?> >???? Ron VE8RT DP22> > -- > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>> _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb-- Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From corlissbs at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 23:44:58 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 23:44:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Past Satellite Ham
References: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888@mail.yahoo.com>

Are there any "old timers" on the board (from around 2013), who remember Julia Gatti N2PPL? She used to be on SO-50 almost every day, with her Arrow and HT. I have not heard her for years. Just wondering. Brad KC9UQR


From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 23:48:01 2020
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 18:48:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Past Satellite Ham
In-Reply-To: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4DC417EA-AE15-4B5F-8B30-1196D233383F@gmail.com>

I got a card from her last year. The first card I got from her was back in the early 90s.

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Are there any "old timers" on the board (from around 2013), who remember Julia Gatti N2PPL? She used to be on SO-50 almost every day, with her Arrow and HT. I have not heard her for years. Just wondering. Brad KC9UQR
> 
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 10 00:28:20 2020
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 00:28:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Past Satellite Ham
In-Reply-To: <4DC417EA-AE15-4B5F-8B30-1196D233383F@gmail.com>
References: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888@mail.yahoo.com>
	<4DC417EA-AE15-4B5F-8B30-1196D233383F@gmail.com>
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 My last QSO with Julia was in March 2018 when I was roving in La.Hope all is well with her.? ? ?de? Bob? K8BL

    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 07:48:16 PM EDT, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I got a card from her last year. The first card I got from her was back in the early 90s.

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Are there any "old timers" on the board (from around 2013), who remember Julia Gatti N2PPL? She used to be on SO-50 almost every day, with her Arrow and HT. I have not heard her for years. Just wondering. Brad KC9UQR
> 
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Fri Apr 10 00:53:27 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 18:53:27 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
In-Reply-To: <vn33gmuuvnquknrdxyxdwj4e.1586471542036@email.android.com>
References: <vn33gmuuvnquknrdxyxdwj4e.1586471542036@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <20200409185327.f8225b36a6c29eae9888a51a@yknwt.ca>

   Good to know, but there isn't likely anyone close to me recording.
I have a lot of quiet personal time with the birds :-) as their
footprints move north far from the crowds.  Its a great training
opportunity if we had new amateurs getting started on satellites as no
one else would hear them once the footprint is totally north of
everyone else.

    I'm checking the availability, features, and cost of course of
these recorders.  Old cellphones I figure would have very good audio,
but not the other features (stereo, write to media maybe) that
dedicated recorders would have.

   Ron VE8RT

On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 15:44:55 -0700
Russ Kinner via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I use an Olympus IEC JIS LR03 Which is also used to record classroom sessions.  Its about the size of a small candy bar and holds about 22 hrs. in mp3 format.  It has a built-in USB connector to get the files into a PC and a MIC micro phone jack along built in microphone.  Any electronic recorder should work fine with these minimum features.
> 
> I use Audacity to edit and change formats to get a file that can be emailed or placed on a file service such a Google or dropbox (there are several others if you record daily and need the space.)
> 
> WD9EWK among several others record most passes on FM birds that are in range.  He is only 25 miles away from me so hears the same passes as I do.  Look for someone near you if you want to check what other stations hear.  With receiver de-sense, you may not hear exactly what others do. 
> 
> There are resources to help on line if you do a little searching.  There is no one place to check but Amsat is a good starting point as is this message service.  I'm only 2+ months on the FM birds and I have a ways to go to have a good signal/operating practice but I'm much farther along due to on line info.  Keep asking questions when you need help.
> 
> Rusty. WA8ZID
> _______________________________________________
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Apr 10 01:07:47 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:07:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] suggested audio recorder?
In-Reply-To: <vn33gmuuvnquknrdxyxdwj4e.1586471542036@email.android.com>
References: <vn33gmuuvnquknrdxyxdwj4e.1586471542036@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <4e24265b-edd7-4ea0-0bbd-4b5e2bc351cc@pobox.com>

On 04/09/20 17:44, Russ Kinner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> There are resources to help on line if you do a little searching.

Remember that SatNOGS stations are recording passes, so they might also 
have a recording of the pass:

https://satnogs.org/

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From kb2mjeff at att.net  Fri Apr 10 11:29:26 2020
From: kb2mjeff at att.net (Jeff )
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 07:29:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2D
References: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$.ref@att.net>
Message-ID: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$@att.net>

XW-2D is broke again. Sounds like it?s in meteor scatter mode  ?

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Fri Apr 10 12:58:41 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:41 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2D
In-Reply-To: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$@att.net>
References: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$.ref@att.net>
	<0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$@att.net>
Message-ID: <20200410065841.0bccc9a4509fe435ffe8920a@yknwt.ca>

Tried it this morning on CW, solid downlink signal for a few seconds,
off for several seconds, on for a few, ....

I think that I noticed that behaviour a couple of days ago.

Ron VE8RT

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 07:29:26 -0400
Jeff  via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> XW-2D is broke again. Sounds like it?s in meteor scatter mode  ?
> 
>  
> 
> 73 Jeff kb2m
> 
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From wb3csy at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 13:59:36 2020
From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:59:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Past Satellite Ham
In-Reply-To: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <231385550.3541594.1586475898888.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<231385550.3541594.1586475898888@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJckjgOgqamBrWwHONd_pz6BfycOt0pP2PYS5=PawuT_7bB=1A@mail.gmail.com>

I talked to Julia on the phone about 2 months ago. She is well. Just busy
and has not been on the birds.I told her about DMR and the AMSAT TG.
Hopefully we will be able to "work" her there.
73,
Rick WB3CSY



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From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Fri Apr 10 19:57:44 2020
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:57:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite station for sale
Message-ID: <8E33347F32F94189A1F150DDB69F7B19@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>

Posting for a friend.

Contact Jerry directly if interested: n5rv (at) outlook.com 

The station consists of the following:

Yaesu FT-847 (manual, mic., box, various cables)
Yaesu FC-20 Tuner
Yaesu SP-8 Speaker (Not in very good condition, may have been in smoking environment, I cleaned it up the best I could)
Yaesu FP-1030a 30A power supply
2x Tigertronics SignaLink USB
M2 SatPack1 VHF/UHF (egg beater) antennas with cross boom
SatPC32 software package with key

I would like $1300 for all, but will entertain cash+trades, offers.  
Willing to drive halfway within a reasonable distance.
.


From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Fri Apr 10 23:26:25 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:26:25 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>

  maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
might be "home far should you go"

  It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log is
acceptable.

  What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
grid squares out of the noise?

  A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
high end hearing aids do some audio processing.

  I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though he
had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
hear it.

  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?

   Ron VE8RT

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From royldean at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 00:41:45 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:41:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>

>
>   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>    Ron VE8RT


I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).

So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.   I believe
most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
awards that go with grid collection.

I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
the pass) is totally legit.   Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.

--Roy
K3RLD

From royldean at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 00:44:03 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:44:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <CADGPg2vSq5YsZ5a_kfK+xy+qK4JvBfSsFZ1OYPiRkS9+Qk5AiQ@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I believe
> most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> awards that go with grid collection.


Of course, now that I think about it, if you use LotW or QSL cards, you
pretty much get the grid for free no matter what - so honestly maybe grid
exchange is popular just because it's quick and straight forward, and works
best for people that are listening to ongoing QSOs and need specific grids?

--Roy
K3RLD

From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 00:52:54 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:52:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <4baf0e55-a4b1-163b-1dde-edc80da6e8cd@gmail.com>
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It's too big to fit in my satellite rig bag, so I hardly ever see them. I
have made a portable cheatsheet that I need to reprint as mine is nearly
toast.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 23:43 Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but the Frequency Guide sits nicely under my satellite rig, so it's
> always handy.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> John Brier wrote:
> > The Getting Started book lists the catalog number :-)
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:45 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >> It would be really handy if the Guide would list the satellite's catalog
> >> number under the name.  That's universal.
> >>
> >> Greg  KO6TH
> >>
> >>
>
>

From kc0bmf at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 01:17:11 2020
From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (W0JW John)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:17:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
Message-ID: <CAG-+cOaed-NSWhOpm-3oRk0y_NP1oQyBrCkYtYBiga-qBdpj0A@mail.gmail.com>

I came into this posting late so if this has already been shared sorry for
the band width. But if not this site will give you a lot of information.
       73 John W0JW EN31be

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/satslist.htm

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Apr 11 02:03:10 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:03:10 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Freq Guide April 2019
In-Reply-To: <CAG-+cOaed-NSWhOpm-3oRk0y_NP1oQyBrCkYtYBiga-qBdpj0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG-+cOaed-NSWhOpm-3oRk0y_NP1oQyBrCkYtYBiga-qBdpj0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200410200310.0762e9484c40dbe340498ad7@yknwt.ca>

Thanks John,

  I don't think that this site had been brought up, had I checked it I beforehand I probably would have had my questions answered.

     Ron VE8RT

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:17:11 -0500
W0JW John via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I came into this posting late so if this has already been shared sorry for
> the band width. But if not this site will give you a lot of information.
>        73 John W0JW EN31be
> 
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/satslist.htm
> _______________________________________________
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 03:19:36 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>

During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:

KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
W1AW: QSL, FN31
KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X

That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?

Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X

> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?
>> 
>> 
>>  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>>   Ron VE8RT
> 
> 
> I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> 
> So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.   I believe
> most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> awards that go with grid collection.
> 
> I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> the pass) is totally legit.   Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 03:19:36 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>

During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:

KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
W1AW: QSL, FN31
KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X

That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?

Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X

> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?
>> 
>> 
>>  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>>   Ron VE8RT
> 
> 
> I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> 
> So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.   I believe
> most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> awards that go with grid collection.
> 
> I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> the pass) is totally legit.   Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From skristof at etczone.com  Sat Apr 11 11:49:50 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:49:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
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Opening with "CQ Satellite" is not really a recommended practice.

This: "On the FM satellites, it is not necessary to call CQ as on HF." is cut-and-paste from here:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-20131010.pdf

Sean, your own paper on the AMSAT website says this:?
" Don?t Call CQ - Please don?t call ?CQ Satellite? on an FM satellite". That's cut-and-paste from here:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/FM-Satellites-Best-Practices.pdf
To Roy and any interested others, I highly recommend the materials at both of these links as excellent tips and practices for satellite operation. Note that they are geared towards the FM satellites.
Steve AI9IN
Grid EM79ji
Oldenburg IN
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
Date: 04/10/20 23:24
To: Roy Dean (royldean at gmail.com)
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?

During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:

KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
W1AW: QSL, FN31
KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X

That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?

Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X

> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> ?
>>
>>
>> ?Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>> ? Ron VE8RT
>
>




From w2ev at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 12:38:36 2020
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:38:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
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This issue comes up with regularity.? The answer is simple.? If you want a direct answer...scroll to the last paragraph of this email.

----- Background -----

Let's play out a scenario from the point of a 3rd party listening to two sides of a valid QSO from the "old days" of voice-based meteor scatter communications:

Man's Voice: CQ W2AAA CQ W2AAA CQ W2AAA Break
Woman's Voice: W2AAA K0ZZ W2AAA K0ZZ W2AAA? K0ZZBreak
Man's Voice: K0ZZ W2AAA K0ZZ W2AAA K0ZZ W2AAA Break
Woman's Voice: W2AAA S5 W2AAA S5 W2AAA S5 Break
Man's Voice: Roger S5 S4 Roger S5 S4 Roger S5 S4 Break
Woman's Voice: Roger S4 73 Roger S4 73 Roger S4 73 Break
Man's Voice: Roger Roger Roger Break
Woman's Voice: Roger Roger Roger Break
Man's Voice: Roger Roger Roger Break
Woman's Voice: Roger Roger Roger Break
Man's Voice: Roger Roger Roger Break
Woman's Voice: Roger Roger Roger Break
(silence)

Unless you were part of the QSO or had engaged in this particular agreed upon protocol before, you would have no way to decipher what just happened.

I could explain everything that happened (including the fact that the Man's side of the QSO didn't copy enough to agree that a QSO had occurred during the last exchange and required three repeats until their QSO Protocol was satisfied)... but ultimately, the point is:

A QSO is "valid" when two parties agree to a protocol (or follow an events' established protocol) and follow it to their satisfaction.? Doing so honorably is part of the hobby.

Regards,
Ev, W2EV
Chairman, Rochester VHF Group
The Rochester VHF Group

From kb1hy2 at comcast.net  Sat Apr 11 12:46:38 2020
From: kb1hy2 at comcast.net (Peter Budnik)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:46:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2D
In-Reply-To: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$@att.net>
References: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$@att.net>
Message-ID: <58173A7B-2E02-4316-86A3-E6BA1908FA1A@comcast.net>

A pass last night sounded the same. Only get a few symbols through then off again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Jeff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?XW-2D is broke again. Sounds like it?s in meteor scatter mode  ?
> 
> 
> 
> 73 Jeff kb2m
> 
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From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Apr 11 13:13:42 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:13:42 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
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  I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways.  That of
using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
after the contact.  In the examples the grid square is read back and
acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
contact.  If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).

  Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
stations on that pass?

       Ron VE8RT  DP22

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
> 
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> 
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
> 
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> 
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > 
> > ?
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >>   Ron VE8RT
> > 
> > 
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > 
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.   I believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> > 
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit.   Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> > miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > 
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Apr 11 13:17:02 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:17:02 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2D
In-Reply-To: <58173A7B-2E02-4316-86A3-E6BA1908FA1A@comcast.net>
References: <0cb301d60f2b$4b799d40$e26cd7c0$@att.net>
	<58173A7B-2E02-4316-86A3-E6BA1908FA1A@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20200411071702.8f5d5c8592d0f9bee4ace140@yknwt.ca>

I suppose it could be treated like MS, if there is a regular interval
and fixed length of the on periods try getting through with bursts of
data or fast CW.

Even better, maybe it can be fixed or reset by a ground station.

  Ron VE8RT

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:46:38 -0400
Peter Budnik via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> A pass last night sounded the same. Only get a few symbols through then off again.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Jeff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > 
> > ?XW-2D is broke again. Sounds like it?s in meteor scatter mode  ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 73 Jeff kb2m
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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-- 
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 13:18:08 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:18:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <1ab43be7519982d33d834e99bd24f1c1@etczone.com>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
	<1ab43be7519982d33d834e99bd24f1c1@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <1367618564.4121132.1586611088989@mail.yahoo.com>

There are linear satellites as well, Steve.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer 

    On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 06:51:24 AM CDT, Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 
Opening with "CQ Satellite" is not really a recommended practice.

This: "On the FM satellites, it is not necessary to call CQ as on HF." is cut-and-paste from here:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-20131010.pdf

Sean, your own paper on the AMSAT website says this:?
" Don?t Call CQ - Please don?t call ?CQ Satellite? on an FM satellite". That's cut-and-paste from here:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/FM-Satellites-Best-Practices.pdf
To Roy and any interested others, I highly recommend the materials at both of these links as excellent tips and practices for satellite operation. Note that they are geared towards the FM satellites.
Steve AI9IN
Grid EM79ji
Oldenburg IN
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
Date: 04/10/20 23:24
To: Roy Dean (royldean at gmail.com)
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?

During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:

KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
W1AW: QSL, FN31
KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X

That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?

Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X

> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> ?
>>
>>
>> ?Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>> ? Ron VE8RT
>
>



_______________________________________________
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 13:27:16 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <20200411071342.c00693abe3268cace53d7f12@yknwt.ca>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
	<20200411071342.c00693abe3268cace53d7f12@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <141804769.4104721.1586611636192@mail.yahoo.com>

I have no issue with recording a pass. I do so regularly, and out of practicality: as a portable operator, I have one hand holding my antenna and the other adjusting my VFO to correct for Doppler.?
I use my recorder as mu log. But I also use it to help me verify my contacts. If I don't complete a QSO with both parties saying "yes, I heard your info," it's not a valid contact to me.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer 

    On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 08:13:49 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca> wrote:  
 
 ? I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways.? That of
using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
after the contact.? In the examples the grid square is read back and
acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
contact.? If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).

? Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
stations on that pass?

? ? ? Ron VE8RT? DP22

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
> 
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> 
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
> 
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> 
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > 
> > ?
> >> 
> >> 
> >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >>? Ron VE8RT
> > 
> > 
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > 
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> > 
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > 
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
  

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Apr 11 13:39:13 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:39:13 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <141804769.4104721.1586611636192@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
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	<141804769.4104721.1586611636192@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thank you Sean,

  I can, and will, work with this.  As I can have the mental equivalent
of stuttering, I know what I want to say but it comes out wrong -
usually skips ahead leaving out or substituting information, I didn't
feel that my shortcoming was fair to the other station(s).

   Ron VE8RT

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
"Sean K." <kx9x at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have no issue with recording a pass. I do so regularly, and out of practicality: as a portable operator, I have one hand holding my antenna and the other adjusting my VFO to correct for Doppler.?
> I use my recorder as mu log. But I also use it to help me verify my contacts. If I don't complete a QSO with both parties saying "yes, I heard your info," it's not a valid contact to me.
> Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer 
> 
>     On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 08:13:49 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca> wrote:  
>  
>  ? I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways.? That of
> using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
> after the contact.? In the examples the grid square is read back and
> acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
> especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
> It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
> processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
> contact.? If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
> the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
> I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
> tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).
> 
> ? Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
> to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
> stations on that pass?
> 
> ? ? ? Ron VE8RT? DP22
> 
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
> Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> > During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
> > 
> > KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> > W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> > KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> > W1AW: QSL, FN31
> > KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> > 
> > That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
> > 
> > Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> > 
> > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > ?
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >>? Ron VE8RT
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> > > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > > 
> > > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I believe
> > > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > > awards that go with grid collection.
> > > 
> > > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> > > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > > 
> > > --Roy
> > > K3RLD
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>   


-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sat Apr 11 14:12:05 2020
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:12:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
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Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5?

KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW FN41
KX9X: W1AW, QSL, EN50
W1AW: QSL, Thanks

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:19 PM Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
> exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
> acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
>
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
> scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
> receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
>
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >>   Ron VE8RT
> >
> >
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
> than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> >
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.   I
> believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> >
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit.   Using a recording from a satnogs station
> 500
> > miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From royldean at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 14:38:59 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:38:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
Message-ID: <CADGPg2tncRgTL=Pw=u7j0nWeXKY4S5gFAw8xjURTN-J34pDhGw@mail.gmail.com>

To those in the northeast, it appears that somebody might be setting up a
repeater on the 70cm uplink frequency of AO-92 (at least that's what it
sounded like).   I got one call sign (from NH), but there is no email
address shown on QRZ to inquire about it.   Might want to keep this in mind
when operating the early passes on AO-92.

--Roy
K3RLD

From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Sat Apr 11 14:43:44 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:43:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
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Roy,?I heard that traffic too. Did you Google the call sign in question? Sometimes doing so will pull up call signs that QRZ has missed
NateN5LEX

On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 10:38 AM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
To those in the northeast, it appears that somebody might be setting up a
repeater on the 70cm uplink frequency of AO-92 (at least that's what it
sounded like).? I got one call sign (from NH), but there is no email
address shown on QRZ to inquire about it.? Might want to keep this in mind
when operating the early passes on AO-92.

--Roy
K3RLD
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 14:46:41 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:46:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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I generally prefer not to give out my info until I've been acknowledged by the other station. I've done it, but it doesn't always work well. Personal preference.
But yes, your suggestion would work and possibly be more efficient, unless there is QRM or other interference during the initial exchange, which could lead to repeats or fills. But that could happen at any point in the QSO.


Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer 

    On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 09:14:52 AM CDT, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5?

KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW FN41
KX9X: W1AW, QSL, EN50
W1AW: QSL, Thanks

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:19 PM Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
> exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
> acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
>
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
> scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
> receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
>
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >>
> >>
> >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >>? Ron VE8RT
> >
> >
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
> than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> >
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I
> believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> >
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station
> 500
> > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sat Apr 11 15:01:40 2020
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:01:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
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Got a recording you can share?

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
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AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:39 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92

To those in the northeast, it appears that somebody might be setting up a
repeater on the 70cm uplink frequency of AO-92 (at least that's what it
sounded like).   I got one call sign (from NH), but there is no email
address shown on QRZ to inquire about it.   Might want to keep this in mind
when operating the early passes on AO-92.

--Roy
K3RLD
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From bwilkins at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 15:07:19 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:07:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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Agree to all except CQ Satellite. It is unnecessary

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 10:15 AM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5?
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW FN41
> KX9X: W1AW, QSL, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, Thanks
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:19 PM Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
> > exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
> > acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
> >
> > KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> > W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> > KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> > W1AW: QSL, FN31
> > KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> >
> > That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
> > scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
> > receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact
> ?good.?
> >
> > Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> >
> > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >>   Ron VE8RT
> > >
> > >
> > > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
> > than
> > > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > >
> > > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.   I
> > believe
> > > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > > awards that go with grid collection.
> > >
> > > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself
> on
> > > the pass) is totally legit.   Using a recording from a satnogs station
> > 500
> > > miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > >
> > > --Roy
> > > K3RLD
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
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> >
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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From brennanprice at verizon.net  Sat Apr 11 15:22:51 2020
From: brennanprice at verizon.net (Brennan Price)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:22:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gagarin Cup International DX Contest
References: <1125735726.4236504.1586618571426.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1125735726.4236504.1586618571426@mail.yahoo.com>

There are several ways in which the Yuri Gagarin International DX Contest (CW only) is unique. One of them is that satellite QSOs count. While radiosport on satellites may seem concerning, the level of activity (at least in North America) is usually no more consuming than AMSAT CW Activity Day every New Year's Day, and certainly less consuming than Field Day (or a typical weekend FM pass). I feel it can conducted responsibly, and I am going to try this year. I invite you to join me.

I plan to be QRV as time permits in this year's contest, which runs from 2100 UTC Saturday to 2100 UTC Sunday.

Recommended CQ format is CQ GC de [call]. Exchange is RST (don't complicate things--599 means no more and no less than "I hear you" in the radiosport context, so send 599) and ITU Zone (8 for me).

I will operate via the functional XW-2x satellites, the CAS-4x satellites, and EO-88. I will not try AO-7, as CW is more prone to cause a mode change, all other things being equal.

I'll be toward the lower end of the passband when the satellite passes westish or northish from my back deck in FM18iv. I hope to work some of you. I commit to keeping my EIRP low and enjoying the passes with other users.

73 de Brennan N4QX

From kx9x at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 15:33:18 2020
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:33:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CAO_Eq33swiTOYtfM_EE-2pJ+UpcZG_Y1gQua84AnpYfYcjvCiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2vbT+P-SGX5Mv2iwaCRVh1WRwcsVkk4n9WhPUL4X7U64g@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B39AC25-E83C-4A80-ADC3-CBA4AA339306@yahoo.com>
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Yes, on FM satellites, calling CQ is unnecessary and undesirable.

I should have emphasized in my initial post that I was referencing a linear satellite.?
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer 

    On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 10:23:47 AM CDT, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Agree to all except CQ Satellite. It is unnecessary

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 10:15 AM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5?
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW FN41
> KX9X: W1AW, QSL, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, Thanks
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:19 PM Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
> > exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
> > acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
> >
> > KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> > W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> > KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> > W1AW: QSL, FN31
> > KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> >
> > That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
> > scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
> > receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact
> ?good.?
> >
> > Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> >
> > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >>? Ron VE8RT
> > >
> > >
> > > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
> > than
> > > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > >
> > > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I
> > believe
> > > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > > awards that go with grid collection.
> > >
> > > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself
> on
> > > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station
> > 500
> > > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > >
> > > --Roy
> > > K3RLD
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From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Sat Apr 11 15:34:03 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:34:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
In-Reply-To: <02aa01d61012$1b7e0df0$527a29d0$@mindspring.com>
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	<02aa01d61012$1b7e0df0$527a29d0$@mindspring.com>
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Roy, sorry, I didn?t read your post carefully.?
Drew, my recording has unusual traffic for a satellite- as Roy mentioned it sounded like land based repeater traffic. Unfortunately I did not hear anyone ID. Maybe Roy has something useful.?It was definitely?a strange pass.
Scott, I had similar issues- no problem.
NateN5LEX


On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 11:19 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

Got a recording you can share?

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Roy Dean via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:39 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92

To those in the northeast, it appears that somebody might be setting up a
repeater on the 70cm uplink frequency of AO-92 (at least that's what it
sounded like).? I got one call sign (from NH), but there is no email
address shown on QRZ to inquire about it.? Might want to keep this in mind
when operating the early passes on AO-92.

--Roy
K3RLD
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From corlissbs at aol.com  Sat Apr 11 18:22:38 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:22:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Efficient Contacts
References: <890964060.4187875.1586629358442.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <890964060.4187875.1586629358442@mail.yahoo.com>

< Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5? >

Most people do it in 3 transmissions.
My call, your call, with my grid.Reply, with grid.QSL and your call.
With the crowding on the FM birds, one has to get as inventive as one can. Lots of times, the QSL gets stepped on by a more powerful station. It happens all the time to me, as a portable. Lots of hams will still call it a contact. If I get stepped on , I try to come back to the station again. But sometimes-------------.? Brad KC9UQR

From corlissbs at aol.com  Sat Apr 11 18:41:49 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:41:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Past Satellite Ham
References: <380617699.4276431.1586630509459.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <380617699.4276431.1586630509459@mail.yahoo.com>

<I talked to Julia on the phone about 2 months ago. She is well. Just busyand has not been on the birds.I told her about DMR and the AMSAT TG.Hopefully we will be able to "work" her there.>
Thank you, Rick. Great to know that she is well. We have worked on SO-50 many times. I , too would love to get into the AMSAT net, if they could do it on a repeater that also does D-Star.? Brad KC9UQR

From n1uw at gokarns.com  Sun Apr 12 00:08:15 2020
From: n1uw at gokarns.com (Frank Karnauskas)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 17:08:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-103 AMSAT Weekly News Bulletin
Message-ID: <001001d6105e$77128140$653783c0$@gokarns.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-103


The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and 
information service of AMSAT North America, The Radio
Amateur Satellite Corporation.  ANS publishes news related to Amateur
Radio in space including reports on the activities of a worldwide
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digital Amateur Radio satellites.

The news feed on http://amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio 
in space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat dot org.

In this edition:

* ARISS Responds to the COVID-19 Pandemic
* New TQSL Version Provides Better LoTW Rover Support
* AMSAT-EA Registering SanoSat-1 for AMSAT Nepal
* ESA and LibreSpace Report: SDR's for Small Satellites
* Brazil Holds 430 and 1240 MHz Hearing
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* ARISS News
* Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
* Satellite Shorts from All Over

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AMSAT News Service Bulletin 103.01
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April 12, 2020
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ARISS Responds to the COVID-19 Pandemic

In light of the recent COVID-19 pandemic, the ARISS team is working 
to transform its activities for the health and safety of our 
students, host educational institutions and its team.  It has 
instituted an immediate response effort followed by a more strategic, 
longer term initiative to protect all.  ARISS leadership, working 
with a physician on the team, is carefully reviewing all of its 
procedures in light of the evolving COVID-19 recommendation. ARISS 
will continue to monitor the local and global situations and will 
modify its local and global planning as these situations change. 

ARISS has two primary initiatives underway.  One is to develop 
?virtual school? contacts to link each student in their home through 
its telebridge stations.  The other is to plan SSTV (picture 
downlink) sessions during which pictures from ISS can be received by 
all in their homes.

For further information on the ARISS plan, see: 
https://www.ariss.org/COVID-19.html

[ANS thanks Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, ARISS International Chair for the 
above information.]

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New TQSL Version Provides Better LoTW Rover Support

The latest version of TrustedQSL (TQSL), version 2.5.2, offers 
improved Logbook of The World (LoTW) support for operations from 
several locations, as well as the ability to detect uploads that 
contain incorrect location data. 

The primary new feature in TQSL 2.5.2 allows logging programs, in 
conjunction with TQSL, to avoid incorrect contact uploads, while 
adding mechanisms to allow easy uploading of logs for roving 
stations. LoTW had required rovers to identify each location used 
as a separate location in TQSL. The new version of TQSL allows these 
operations to be handled much more smoothly by using information from 
the station?s logging program.

When a log is signed by TQSL, the station details ? call Sign, DXCC 
entity, grid square, and other location details provided by the 
selected station location (and call sign certificate) ? are compared 
with the details in the log. If the US state and station location in 
a log do not agree, TQSL 2.5.2 will reject the contact, detecting 
errors in instances when an incorrect station location has been 
chosen. 

This feature will necessitate changes in many logging programs, 
because it requires that the log provide station details previously 
not used by TQSL. Once a logging program supplies these (MY_STATE, 
MY_DXCC, MY_CQ_ZONE, etc.), then TQSL will validate them against the 
log. Currently, Cabrillo logs use the CALLSIGN field to verify that 
the contacts are for the correct call sign.

Optionally, a station performing roaming operations (e.g., from 
multiple grid squares) can choose to have TQSL assume that the log is 
correct. When call sign or home station are provided with the log, 
TQSL will automatically update the details on the upload. Select 
?Override Station Location with QTH Details from your Log? on the 
?Log Handling? preference page to enable this feature.

This release also includes an update to the most recent TQSL 
configuration file.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information.]

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AMSAT-EA Registering SanoSat-1 for AMSAT Nepal

The Union of Spanish Amateur Radio Operators' satellite group, 
AMSAT-EA, is registering with IARU and the ITU the AMSAT Nepal 
satellite SanoSat-1.  This is being done due to the difficulty of 
carrying out this procedure in the Asian country. This is a one-off 
collaboration which will allow said satellite to fly under the 
Spanish flag.  It should be launched jointly with the AMSAT-EA 
EASAT-2 and Hades satellites possibly with SpaceX later this year.

SanoSat-1 is a 5cm/side pocketQube 1P designed and developed 
affordably for the hobbyist community by using readily available 
commercial of-the-shelf components (COTS).

The SanoSat-1 satellite integrates a gamma radiation sensor as a 
payload. Its main mission will be to measure space radiation while 
orbiting, and periodically transmit its level to Earth using RTTY-FSK 
modulation. All radio amateurs will be able to receive and decode 
radiation measurement data.

The secondary mission of the SanoSat-1 satellite is also to 
demonstrate the storage and forwarding concept which will be useful 
in remote disaster-prone locations. The satellite will collect 
data from ground sensors, store it on board and transmit it to 
Earth's main station. The design and kit for the ground sensors will 
be made available to the general public.

One of AMSAT Nepal's goals is to encourage more people to join the 
group of radio amateurs by receiving data from SanoSat-1 which will 
also transmit a CW beacon with its internal status.

Another activity scheduled to promote radio amateurs and satellite 
technology to science and technology students around the world is the 
organization of hands-on workshops on the construction of 
pico-satellites and ground stations. There will be an opportunity to 
build an affordable open source ground station (SatNOGS) and a 
dedicated GFSK receiver ground station to receive the data.  The 
design of the satellite itself will be open source as well. 

More information is available at: 
https://tinyurl.com/ANS-103-SanoSat-1

[ANS thanks the Union of Spanish Amateur Radio Operators for the 
above information.]

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ESA and LibreSpace Report: SDR's for Small Satellites

The European Space Agency Libre Space Foundation has published a 
paper comparing many common software defined radios (SDR's). The 
devices they examined are:

- RTS-SDR v3
- Airspy Mini
- SDRPlay RSPduo
- LimeSDR Mini
- BladeRF 2.0 Micro
- Ettus USRP B210
- Pluto SDR

The report looked at several bands of interest, but not the HF bands 
? not surprising considering that some of the devices can?t even 
operate on HF. They did examine VHF, UHF, L band, S band, and C band 
performance. Some of the SDR's have transmit capabilities, and for 
those devices, they tested the transmit function as well as receive.

The review isn?t just subjective. It calculates noise figures and 
dynamic range, along with other technical parameters. It also 
includes GNURadio flowgraphs for their test setups, which would be a 
place to start if one wanted to do these kinds of measurements 
oneself.

Towards the end of the 134 page report is an assessment of SDR 
software and how the boards are supported. There was no clear winner 
or loser although the report did mention how SDRPlay?s closed source 
limited software support in some applications.

Read the complete report at:
https://tinyurl.com/ANS-103-SDR-Report

[ANS thanks Hackaday for the above information.]

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Brazil Holds 430 and 1240 MHz Hearing

A public hearing is being held in Brazil concerning both the 430 MHz 
and the 1240 MHz Amateur Radio bands.

On March 23, 2020 the National Telecommunications Agency, ANATEL, 
published a Public Consultation proposal number 14/2020 on technical 
and operational requirements for the use of the frequency bands from 
430 MHz to 440 MHz and from 1240 MHz to 1300 MHz by stations of the 
Private Limited Service (SLP) for radiolocation applications.

The national amateur radio society LABRE says ?The Radio Amateur 
community is concerned about the possible occurrence of interference, 
especially in the 70 cm band.?

Read the translated LABRE post at: https://tinyurl.com/BrazilLABRE.

[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information.]

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

- From the Mountains to the Bay(CM88,89,98,99 DM09,19,29 DN00,01,02,
  10,11,20,21) April 12-21, 2020
RJ, WY7AA, is hitting the asphalt again, roving from Wyoming to 
Vacaville, CA. He?s attending a class from April 15-19, so most of 
the roving will be outside of this time. Grids to be covered include: 
CM88,89,98,99 DM09,19,29 DN00,01,02,10,11,20,21. Specific pass 
details will be posted on WY7AA QRZ page and Twitter 
(https://twitter.com/WY7AA) as the trip approaches.

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL for the above information.]

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ARISS News

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools 
and the public in general. As such, we may have last minute 
cancellations or postponements of school contacts. As always, ARISS 
will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.

The following schools have now been postponed or canceled due to 
COVID-19:

Postponed:

- SPDW Voortrekker Movement, Oranjeville, South Africa, direct via
  ZS9SPD
- RO-SAT One, Piatra-Neam?, Romania, direct via YR?ISS
- McConnell Middle School, Loganville, GA, prefer direct via KD4TGR
- Monroe Carrell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt, Nashville, TN,
  direct via N4FR
- Oakwood School, Morgan Hill, CA, direct via AE6XM
- Ramona Lutheran School, Ramona, CA, direct via N6ROR

Canceled:

- Electromagnetic Field, Ledbury, United Kingdom, direct via GB4EMF

[ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N, for the above information]


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Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events

Due to COVID-19, many hamfests and events around the United States 
have been cancelled or postponed.  While we make every effort to 
ensure the information contained below is correct, there may be some 
that we missed.  

Current schedule:

- May 2, 2020 Arrowhead Radio Amateurs Club Hamfest, Superior, WI
- June 12-13, 2020, Ham-Con, Plano, TX

The following events scheduled to have an AMSAT presence have been
CANCELED:

- April 18, 2020 Brainerd Area Amateur Radio Club Hamfest, 
  Brainerd, MN
- May 2, 2020, Cochise Amateur Radio Association Hamfest, 
  Sierra Vista, AZ
- May 8-9, 2020 Prescott Hamfest, Prescott, AZ
- May 15-17, Hamvention, Xenia, OH

[ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information.]

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Shorts from All Over

+ Fresh ISS Crew Arrives

NASA astronaut Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR, and two Russian cosmonauts 
arrived Thursday for their mission aboard the International Space 
Station, temporarily restoring the orbiting laboratory's population 
to six people. The Soyuz MS-16 spacecraft carrying Cassidy, along 
with Anatoly Ivanishin and Ivan Vagner of the Russian space agency 
Roscosmos, docked to the station's Poisk service module at 10:13 A.M. 
after a four-orbit, six-hour flight. Their Soyuz spacecraft launched 
at 4:05 A.M. EDT (0805Z, or 1:05 P.M. Kazakhstan time) from the 
Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. 
  
[ANS thanks NASA for the above information.]


+ Rocket Lab Rocket Recovery Test Video

Before New Zealand went into COVID-19 lockdown, the folks at Rocket 
Lab did a test to recover a first stage Electron rocket. You can see 
the video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CWGDhkmbs

[ANS thanks Terry Osborne ZL2BAC for the above information.]


+ Preparing for the Ultimate DXpedition? Read the Manual First!

For those of you who have been dreaming about operating from the moon 
or Mars, you can begin your preparations by reading SpaceX's Starship 
User Guide Version 1.0.  No, it's not a detailed flight manual but 
it will help you plan your provisions.  It's light reading and can be 
seen at https://tinyurl.com/ANS-103-Starship

[ANS thanks JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM for the above information.]


+ First Transatlantic Contact on 70 Centimeters Reported

History appears to have been made on April 7, when AMSAT member 
Burt Demarcq, FG8OJ and an operator at 
D4VHF in Cape Verde off the African Coast and , on 
Guadeloupe in the Caribbean completed a contact on 70 centimeters 
using FT8 ? a distance of 3,867 kilometers (2,398 miles). This would 
mark the first transatlantic contact on that band that did not 
involve satellites or moonbounce. The most likely mode of propagation 
was marine ducting, with the signal being trapped close to the ocean 
surface.

One day earlier, 9Y4D in Trinidad copied D4VHF over a distance of 
4,006 kilometers (2,484 miles), but no contact was made. D4VHF is the 
VHF-UHF contest call sign of the Monteverde Contest Team (D4C).

Perhaps not coincidentally, FG8OJ was the first to span the Atlantic 
on 2 meters over the same path, when he worked D41CV in Cape Verde on 
June 16, 2019.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information.]

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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 12:11:53 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 05:11:53 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>

Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and pull
a callsign out of the mud.
I recommend this freeware for satellite users.

Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!

Bob W7OTJ

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>   maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
> might be "home far should you go"
>
>   It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log is
> acceptable.
>
>   What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
> grid squares out of the noise?
>
>   A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
> picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
> high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
>
>   I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
> to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though he
> had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
> hear it.
>
>   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>
>    Ron VE8RT
>
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 12:28:58 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:28:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>

My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
recording, so do what you need to.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and pull
> a callsign out of the mud.
> I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
>
> Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> >   maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
> > might be "home far should you go"
> >
> >   It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log is
> > acceptable.
> >
> >   What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
> > grid squares out of the noise?
> >
> >   A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
> > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
> > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
> >
> >   I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
> > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though he
> > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
> > hear it.
> >
> >   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >
> >    Ron VE8RT
> >
> > --
> > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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From ki7unj at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 15:48:42 2020
From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:48:42 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
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If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
then how did you make contact?

Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did you
call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call till
after the pass?






On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
> recording, so do what you need to.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
> pull
> > a callsign out of the mud.
> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
> >
> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
> >
> > Bob W7OTJ
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
> > > might be "home far should you go"
> > >
> > >   It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log is
> > > acceptable.
> > >
> > >   What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
> > > grid squares out of the noise?
> > >
> > >   A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
> > >
> > >   I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though he
> > > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
> > > hear it.
> > >
> > >   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >
> > >    Ron VE8RT
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
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> > program!
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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 16:16:30 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:16:30 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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Casey,

I made a legitimate contact with the other OP.  If my using Audacity to
clean up the audio and verify the contact and his grid bothers you, so be
it.

Next time, I'll be sure and check with you before I do anything.

Bob W7OTJ


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 8:48 AM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
> then how did you make contact?
>
> Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did you
> call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call till
> after the pass?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
>> recording, so do what you need to.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
>> pull
>> > a callsign out of the mud.
>> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
>> >
>> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
>> >
>> > Bob W7OTJ
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >   maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
>> > > might be "home far should you go"
>> > >
>> > >   It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log
>> is
>> > > acceptable.
>> > >
>> > >   What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
>> > > grid squares out of the noise?
>> > >
>> > >   A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
>> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
>> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
>> > >
>> > >   I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
>> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though
>> he
>> > > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
>> > > hear it.
>> > >
>> > >   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>> > >
>> > >    Ron VE8RT
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
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>
>

From dmitry.mizin at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 16:26:58 2020
From: dmitry.mizin at gmail.com (Dmitry Mizin)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:26:58 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Contacts with N6DNM from CM99/98 and DM08/09 grids on
	Apr 9, 10, 11
Message-ID: <CAF=oU+i0_v0PhJzxeEWnr+mkW+=3yEwJ5FTpgins4FXbFq4mkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

As I am stuck here in Tahoe region, I did a few mini roves to those grids
making 131 contacts overall. All uploaded to LOTW where 81 were confirmed.

I know I've worked many ops for the first time (and this sometimes true
even for those who worked me before) and often other operator will make
mistake with my call. So, if you do need confirmation for those grids -
make sure you have my call correctly - N6DNM. If confirmations are still
missing for you, email me directly with details and I will verify it on my
side.

Thank you all for contacts and looking forward to catching you later!

Dmitry N6DNM

From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Sun Apr 12 16:35:21 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 16:35:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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I?m?with Casey on this. If you use the recording to confirm that you correctly?heard and repeated back another station?s call sign then?it?s a valid contact. If the recording is used after the fact to deduce whose?voice you heard...it was not a valid?contact by definition.?
NateN5LEX


On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 12:19 PM, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

Casey,

I made a legitimate contact with the other OP.? If my using Audacity to
clean up the audio and verify the contact and his grid bothers you, so be
it.

Next time, I'll be sure and check with you before I do anything.

Bob W7OTJ


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 8:48 AM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
> then how did you make contact?
>
> Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did you
> call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call till
> after the pass?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
>> recording, so do what you need to.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
>> pull
>> > a callsign out of the mud.
>> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
>> >
>> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
>> >
>> > Bob W7OTJ
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >? maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
>> > > might be "home far should you go"
>> > >
>> > >? It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log
>> is
>> > > acceptable.
>> > >
>> > >? What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
>> > > grid squares out of the noise?
>> > >
>> > >? A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
>> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
>> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
>> > >
>> > >? I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
>> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though
>> he
>> > > had full quieting.? I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
>> > > hear it.
>> > >
>> > >? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>> > >
>> > >? ? Ron VE8RT
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
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>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From w2ev at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 12 16:35:56 2020
From: w2ev at yahoo.com (Ev Tupis)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 16:35:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
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Message-ID: <1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>

AMSATers...

I'll say it again, "A contact is made when you fulfill whatever criteria you (or an event sponsor) agree it is.? Do so honorably (like playing golf)."

This topic *will* come up periodically because we all feel that we all must agree.? We do not.

For example: some people believe that machine decoding does not constitute a "real" QSO, so they do not use the JT-modes.? However...they are happy to engage in a PSK31 or RTTY QSO...where the machine does real-time decoding for them.

You get the idea.

Please, re-read the first paragraph and find your peace with it.

Yours in the hobby,
Ev, W2EV
Rochester VHF Group









On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 11:52:07 AM EDT, KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: 





If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
then how did you make contact?

Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did you
call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call till
after the pass?






On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
> recording, so do what you need to.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
> pull
> > a callsign out of the mud.
> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
> >
> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
> >
> > Bob W7OTJ
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >? maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
> > > might be "home far should you go"
> > >
> > >? It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log is
> > > acceptable.
> > >
> > >? What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
> > > grid squares out of the noise?
> > >
> > >? A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that even
> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
> > >
> > >? I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though he
> > > had full quieting.? I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
> > > hear it.
> > >
> > >? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >
> > >? ? Ron VE8RT
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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From rwyrwas48 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 16:46:39 2020
From: rwyrwas48 at gmail.com (Rick Wyrwas)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 11:46:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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Amen,  Happy Easter all!!

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:45 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> AMSATers...
>
> I'll say it again, "A contact is made when you fulfill whatever criteria
> you (or an event sponsor) agree it is.  Do so honorably (like playing
> golf)."
>
> This topic *will* come up periodically because we all feel that we all
> must agree.  We do not.
>
> For example: some people believe that machine decoding does not constitute
> a "real" QSO, so they do not use the JT-modes.  However...they are happy to
> engage in a PSK31 or RTTY QSO...where the machine does real-time decoding
> for them.
>
> You get the idea.
>
> Please, re-read the first paragraph and find your peace with it.
>
> Yours in the hobby,
> Ev, W2EV
> Rochester VHF Group
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 11:52:07 AM EDT, KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
> then how did you make contact?
>
> Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did you
> call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call till
> after the pass?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
> > recording, so do what you need to.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
> > pull
> > > a callsign out of the mud.
> > > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
> > >
> > > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
> > >
> > > Bob W7OTJ
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >  maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
> > > > might be "home far should you go"
> > > >
> > > >  It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log
> is
> > > > acceptable.
> > > >
> > > >  What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
> > > > grid squares out of the noise?
> > > >
> > > >  A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job at
> > > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that
> even
> > > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
> > > >
> > > >  I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
> > > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though
> he
> > > > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
> > > > hear it.
> > > >
> > > >  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > > >
> > > >    Ron VE8RT
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> available
> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > > > expressed
> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of
> > > > AMSAT-NA.
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> --
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> >
>
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From bwilkins at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 17:02:46 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:02:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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I use the recording to record the QSOs in LOTW because I suck at
remembering and I don?t write anything down during the pass. Cleaning up
the audio could be used to make sure you recorded the pass properly in LOTW
meaning you record the right call sign. It?s just a memory re caller.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 12:37 PM nathanjwhite via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
> I?m with Casey on this. If you use the recording to confirm that you
> correctly heard and repeated back another station?s call sign then it?s a
> valid contact. If the recording is used after the fact to deduce
> whose voice you heard...it was not a valid contact by definition.
> NateN5LEX
>
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 12:19 PM, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Casey,
>
> I made a legitimate contact with the other OP.  If my using Audacity to
> clean up the audio and verify the contact and his grid bothers you, so be
> it.
>
> Next time, I'll be sure and check with you before I do anything.
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 8:48 AM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
> > then how did you make contact?
> >
> > Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did
> you
> > call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call
> till
> > after the pass?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
> >> recording, so do what you need to.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
> >> pull
> >> > a callsign out of the mud.
> >> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
> >> >
> >> > Bob W7OTJ
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >> > >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >  maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
> >> > > might be "home far should you go"
> >> > >
> >> > >  It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log
> >> is
> >> > > acceptable.
> >> > >
> >> > >  What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
> >> > > grid squares out of the noise?
> >> > >
> >> > >  A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job
> at
> >> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that
> even
> >> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
> >> > >
> >> > >  I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
> >> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though
> >> he
> >> > > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like
> to
> >> > > hear it.
> >> > >
> >> > >  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >> > >
> >> > >    Ron VE8RT
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> > Opinions
> >> > > expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >> of
> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
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> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> >
> >
> > --
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> > https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
> > https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
> > http://bit.do/ki7unj
> > <
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> >
> >
> >
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From zm1267 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 18:56:20 2020
From: zm1267 at gmail.com (z man)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 14:56:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] What is a good contact?
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>From now on I'm just going to put my call out there on the satellite and
ANY station that also puts their call out, will be considered a contact...
(Tongue in cheek)

I live in RI. If I try to work a station in AK or HI, I have to make sure I
get their call AND grid correct, otherwise its a busted contact and a
struggle to work them again. Using a recorder is good for logbook updates,
but if I were to realize I got their call wrong, you bet I'm emailing them
to set up a sked for a redo! It's the same thing for HF contacts...

Im not here to argue, just answer a question. You're going to do what
you're comfortable with. It's just a hobby - some people forget that. You
didn't hear the call or grid right the first time? Work 'em again - it's
moe funner that way!

Larry
N1MIW

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Sun Apr 12 20:44:07 2020
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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I've been Roving for quite a few years. It takes a lot of time and effort
and $$$ to activate some of the Grids I've been to. My joy is to give out
Grids to those who need them. It's all done gladly and willingly.

This is what I consider a "Good Contact".?

1 - I set up and wait for the Pass and announce my Call/Grid when I hear myself.
2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.
3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid
4 - That's a "Good Contact" - they heard me & responded, I heard them & responded
5 - Contact logged, next station calls.

The Pass is copied on my Sony ICD-BX140 Digital Recorder via a mini-mic
placed in one side of my headphones which catches both sides of the QSO. Then,
when I return to where I'm staying, I transcribe the QSOs for uploading to
LoTW. If there is doubt with a Call, I'll listen to the recording again to verify.

This has worked very well for me for over 125 different Grid activations and
many several times as I travel. I don't recall any complaints, however, they would
all be handled appropriately(!).

GL/73,? ? Bob? K8BL? ? ? ? ? ? ?(AMSAT #6593, since 1979)

P.S. The Digital Recorder can be seen in a pic on my QRZ Page.

From royldean at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 15:24:25 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:24:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
Message-ID: <CADGPg2vPghJbyDJD-OSL1aNL4KW1aoeKoEwT8fCdb_jOPS+=Kg@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, definitely more repeater stuff on the 15:20 pass this morning (early
in the pass... it's cleared up now).   No call signs heard this morning,
but they were gabbing about corona virus on sea vessels.

--Roy
K3RLD

From ki7unj at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 16:45:15 2020
From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:45:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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Bob,

If you're using the recording to:

1) Write down who you worked. after the fact since logging on the fly can
be difficult... GREAT!
2) Verify you said the call right... GREAT!
3) Re-Verify what gird they said so you can mark it off the list....GREAT!


If you are using the recording to clean it up, playing CSI and "enhancing"
the file and having to play it over and over to figure out the call after
the fact since you didn't hear it live, or didn't say it correctly back..
then that's a busted call and that would not be a good contact.


But hey... we all can log whatever we feel like and make VUCC/488/DX awards
as "easy" as we would like.....



End of the Day log whatever you want... Takes to 2 to tango.. errr QSL.





On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:17 AM Bob Hammond <propgrinder at gmail.com> wrote:

> Casey,
>
> I made a legitimate contact with the other OP.  If my using Audacity to
> clean up the audio and verify the contact and his grid bothers you, so be
> it.
>
> Next time, I'll be sure and check with you before I do anything.
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 8:48 AM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
>> then how did you make contact?
>>
>> Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did
>> you call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call
>> till after the pass?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
>>> recording, so do what you need to.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
>>> pull
>>> > a callsign out of the mud.
>>> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
>>> >
>>> > Bob W7OTJ
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>> > >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >   maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
>>> > > might be "home far should you go"
>>> > >
>>> > >   It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the log
>>> is
>>> > > acceptable.
>>> > >
>>> > >   What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs and
>>> > > grid squares out of the noise?
>>> > >
>>> > >   A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job
>>> at
>>> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that
>>> even
>>> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
>>> > >
>>> > >   I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was low
>>> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even though
>>> he
>>> > > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like to
>>> > > hear it.
>>> > >
>>> > >   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>>> > >
>>> > >    Ron VE8RT
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> > Opinions
>>> > > expressed
>>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>> views of
>>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> > program!
>>> > > Subscription settings:
>>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> > >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>> > expressed
>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>> > AMSAT-NA.
>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ*
>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
>> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
>> http://bit.do/ki7unj
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>>
>>
>

-- 
*Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ*
https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
http://bit.do/ki7unj
<https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon Apr 13 16:56:19 2020
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 12:56:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2vPghJbyDJD-OSL1aNL4KW1aoeKoEwT8fCdb_jOPS+=Kg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2vPghJbyDJD-OSL1aNL4KW1aoeKoEwT8fCdb_jOPS+=Kg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99D6A0CA-493B-4BE4-94AF-48FF6B5647BB@mindspring.com>

I got a recording with some mostly clear call signs. I?m in the process of trying to contact them. Any further reports or recordings would be helpful.

Thanks, Drew KO4MA

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Yep, definitely more repeater stuff on the 15:20 pass this morning (early
> in the pass... it's cleared up now).   No call signs heard this morning,
> but they were gabbing about corona virus on sea vessels.
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From royldean at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 17:08:52 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:08:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sjFC2yndG5VcH7oyMSdMFPWHhLm9O6_rBKmvv9TRq1zw@mail.gmail.com>

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2028147/

There is a little bit of the discussion that can be heard in this recording
from today's 15:20z pass.

--Roy
K3RLD

From aj9n at aol.com  Mon Apr 13 17:21:09 2020
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-13 17:00
	UTC
References: <617858629.3258659.1586798469847.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <617858629.3258659.1586798469847@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-13 17:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

TBD

?

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit (***)

Welcome aboard! 

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

?

*************************************************

?

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for when you are not playing on your radio?? Check out these links:?? (***)

?

?

>From ARISS Vice Chair Oliver Amend DG6BCE: ESA Astronauts to offer inspiration during isolation in?????  #SpaceConnectsUs

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Astronauts_to_offer_inspiration_during_isolation_in_SpaceConnectsU

?

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.? By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.? Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy, Nature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World.? Check out: ?https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard 

?

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.? Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem 

?

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? 

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? 

?

Postponed:

No new schools (***)

?

Cancelled:

No new schools (***)

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-04-13 17:00 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-03-21 00:00 UTC. 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States) 

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

********************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 

Sergey RV3DR with 133 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1387. 

Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? 

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1320. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. 

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 60 on orbit 

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

Exp. 61 on orbit 

Oleg Skripochka

Jessica Meir

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit (***)

Welcome aboard! 

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?



From propgrinder at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 18:06:06 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:06:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CAPFr_Uk-FyaxBBtaj_usQ11tWXmh8KGYNLj2OUwEr=CzJS+BMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKoB7OpQBJvGEjDA2Q_MDdJTPQ_kX2k3XgKpdGMmAy5=GxFdyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_Uk-FyaxBBtaj_usQ11tWXmh8KGYNLj2OUwEr=CzJS+BMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoB7Oo=j5Nr+fx=viGZkCQ1YvSsjHDuf4S9-RYYEKAE53QB_g@mail.gmail.com>

I think that's all quite valid and good operating practice, Casey.

Bob W7OTJ

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:45 AM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> If you're using the recording to:
>
> 1) Write down who you worked. after the fact since logging on the fly can
> be difficult... GREAT!
> 2) Verify you said the call right... GREAT!
> 3) Re-Verify what gird they said so you can mark it off the list....GREAT!
>
>
> If you are using the recording to clean it up, playing CSI and "enhancing"
> the file and having to play it over and over to figure out the call after
> the fact since you didn't hear it live, or didn't say it correctly back..
> then that's a busted call and that would not be a good contact.
>
>
> But hey... we all can log whatever we feel like and make VUCC/488/DX
> awards as "easy" as we would like.....
>
>
>
> End of the Day log whatever you want... Takes to 2 to tango.. errr QSL.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:17 AM Bob Hammond <propgrinder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Casey,
>>
>> I made a legitimate contact with the other OP.  If my using Audacity to
>> clean up the audio and verify the contact and his grid bothers you, so be
>> it.
>>
>> Next time, I'll be sure and check with you before I do anything.
>>
>> Bob W7OTJ
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 8:48 AM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have to listen to the recording to hear the call after the fact,
>>> then how did you make contact?
>>>
>>> Cause you didn't hear it live as it happened, so then how the heck did
>>> you call the other Op by the correct call? since you didn't know the call
>>> till after the pass?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:30 AM Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My personal opinion, post processing is not adding information to the
>>>> recording, so do what you need to.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 08:14 Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Yesterday, I used Audacity to clarify recorded audio of a contact and
>>>> pull
>>>> > a callsign out of the mud.
>>>> > I recommend this freeware for satellite users.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks Ron VE8RT for mentioning it!
>>>> >
>>>> > Bob W7OTJ
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>>> > >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >   maybe this has been brought up before, an alternative subject line
>>>> > > might be "home far should you go"
>>>> > >
>>>> > >   It seems that recording contacts and translating them into the
>>>> log is
>>>> > > acceptable.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >   What about using post recording enhancements to pull call signs
>>>> and
>>>> > > grid squares out of the noise?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >   A younger person with uncompromised hearing would do a better job
>>>> at
>>>> > > picking out contact information, the arguement might be made that
>>>> even
>>>> > > high end hearing aids do some audio processing.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >   I just used Audacity to pull KJ7ATK's call out as Diawata-2 was
>>>> low
>>>> > > to my horizon, and his FM deviation was almost not there even
>>>> though he
>>>> > > had full quieting.  I'll pass someone the recording if they'd like
>>>> to
>>>> > > hear it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >   Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >    Ron VE8RT
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available
>>>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> > Opinions
>>>> > > expressed
>>>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views of
>>>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>>>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> > program!
>>>> > > Subscription settings:
>>>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> > >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>> > expressed
>>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>> > AMSAT-NA.
>>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> > Subscription settings:
>>>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> >
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ*
>>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
>>> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
>>> http://bit.do/ki7unj
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> *Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ*
> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
> http://bit.do/ki7unj
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1521073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>
>

From va3mw at portcredit.net  Mon Apr 13 18:26:45 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:26:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
Message-ID: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

For the new operators, you may like this nice piece of code by W9KE

Doppler.SQF Edit

http://www.tomdoyle.org/dopplersqfeditor/DopplerSqfEditor.html

Mike va3mw

From va3mw at portcredit.net  Mon Apr 13 18:52:12 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:52:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor --part 2
In-Reply-To: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts4qmx-SBUMetNiPM2Tm8qV6XiXR1jDXNzYVMPeBvVPOFA@mail.gmail.com>

And, if you want a complete list of 410 birds

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/Doppler.sqf

There was only 1 mistake in it.

Mike va3mw


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:26 PM Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> For the new operators, you may like this nice piece of code by W9KE
>
> Doppler.SQF Edit
>
> http://www.tomdoyle.org/dopplersqfeditor/DopplerSqfEditor.html
>
> Mike va3mw
>
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 19:25:52 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:25:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAFeVdENm_f79Tq8+5uFPM9eo2BOTustS=zTQVWoj=UbAa_S_cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOrM21ADPJ4TzGq_vOwM4BJh7CO7rrnKbs+8nSNnmDK3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Bob this is how I do it.

The only exception is occasionally if I get tongue tied and can't spit out
their call right I will sometimes say "got it on the recording" and still
count it. I prefer not to but have done it and others also do it.

If someone doesn't agree with that my defense is I am dyslexic so give me a
break. ;-)

This thread has reminded me that, afaik, the FCC rules don't define a
contact, so as someone else said, it really depends on what you and the
other station agree on. Contests or other awards may specify and for that
you have to do what their rules are, obviously.

73, John Brier


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 16:51 Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
> I've been Roving for quite a few years. It takes a lot of time and effort
> and $$$ to activate some of the Grids I've been to. My joy is to give out
> Grids to those who need them. It's all done gladly and willingly.
>
> This is what I consider a "Good Contact".
>
> 1 - I set up and wait for the Pass and announce my Call/Grid when I hear
> myself.
> 2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.
> 3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid
> 4 - That's a "Good Contact" - they heard me & responded, I heard them &
> responded
> 5 - Contact logged, next station calls.
>
> The Pass is copied on my Sony ICD-BX140 Digital Recorder via a mini-mic
> placed in one side of my headphones which catches both sides of the QSO.
> Then,
> when I return to where I'm staying, I transcribe the QSOs for uploading to
> LoTW. If there is doubt with a Call, I'll listen to the recording again to
> verify.
>
> This has worked very well for me for over 125 different Grid activations
> and
> many several times as I travel. I don't recall any complaints, however,
> they would
> all be handled appropriately(!).
>
> GL/73,    Bob  K8BL             (AMSAT #6593, since 1979)
>
> P.S. The Digital Recorder can be seen in a pic on my QRZ Page.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From stephennipper at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 19:38:09 2020
From: stephennipper at gmail.com (H. Stephen Nipper)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:38:09 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOrM21ADPJ4TzGq_vOwM4BJh7CO7rrnKbs+8nSNnmDK3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAFeVdENm_f79Tq8+5uFPM9eo2BOTustS=zTQVWoj=UbAa_S_cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALn0fKOrM21ADPJ4TzGq_vOwM4BJh7CO7rrnKbs+8nSNnmDK3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPf7+3rj7==w2jaQVVXvAGgHCsWvNSrZcEyjM1snn8iP5wy_=g@mail.gmail.com>

I think we have about beat this topic to death.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:27 PM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Bob this is how I do it.
>
> The only exception is occasionally if I get tongue tied and can't spit out
> their call right I will sometimes say "got it on the recording" and still
> count it. I prefer not to but have done it and others also do it.
>
> If someone doesn't agree with that my defense is I am dyslexic so give me a
> break. ;-)
>
> This thread has reminded me that, afaik, the FCC rules don't define a
> contact, so as someone else said, it really depends on what you and the
> other station agree on. Contests or other awards may specify and for that
> you have to do what their rules are, obviously.
>
> 73, John Brier
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 16:51 Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've been Roving for quite a few years. It takes a lot of time and effort
> > and $$$ to activate some of the Grids I've been to. My joy is to give out
> > Grids to those who need them. It's all done gladly and willingly.
> >
> > This is what I consider a "Good Contact".
> >
> > 1 - I set up and wait for the Pass and announce my Call/Grid when I hear
> > myself.
> > 2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.
> > 3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid
> > 4 - That's a "Good Contact" - they heard me & responded, I heard them &
> > responded
> > 5 - Contact logged, next station calls.
> >
> > The Pass is copied on my Sony ICD-BX140 Digital Recorder via a mini-mic
> > placed in one side of my headphones which catches both sides of the QSO.
> > Then,
> > when I return to where I'm staying, I transcribe the QSOs for uploading
> to
> > LoTW. If there is doubt with a Call, I'll listen to the recording again
> to
> > verify.
> >
> > This has worked very well for me for over 125 different Grid activations
> > and
> > many several times as I travel. I don't recall any complaints, however,
> > they would
> > all be handled appropriately(!).
> >
> > GL/73,    Bob  K8BL             (AMSAT #6593, since 1979)
> >
> > P.S. The Digital Recorder can be seen in a pic on my QRZ Page.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>


-- 
Stephen Nipper
Boise, Idaho
N7DJX

From w3ab at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 13 19:39:09 2020
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:39:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cheap 10W solar panels
References: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>

The link is to ML Solar, local to me in Cali.
https://tinyurl.com/txyw2bj

---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".

From ny4i at ny4i.com  Mon Apr 13 19:43:18 2020
From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:43:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D296C3D6-709E-4DBC-AB35-FB1B503EC29F@ny4i.com>

A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer in-use, satellites in these files? The 
Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore. Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option?as in one never even sees it.

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)




> On Apr 13, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> For the new operators, you may like this nice piece of code by W9KE
> 
> Doppler.SQF Edit
> 
> http://www.tomdoyle.org/dopplersqfeditor/DopplerSqfEditor.html
> 
> Mike va3mw
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Apr 13 19:48:16 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:48:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cheap 10W solar panels
In-Reply-To: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aac884cc-9ff3-ab29-0d80-7c0d253f5f40@pobox.com>

On 04/13/20 14:39, GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> The link is to ML Solar, local to me in Cali.
> https://tinyurl.com/txyw2bj

This link goes to a Yahoo! email login, and is probably not what you 
intended to send.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From corlissbs at aol.com  Mon Apr 13 19:50:50 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good Contact???
References: <308791304.5156271.1586807450925.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <308791304.5156271.1586807450925@mail.yahoo.com>

<2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid>
Since I am always operating handheld or portable, whether at my QTH, or roving, I cannot write the call down as it is being said, as both of my hands happen to be employed at the moment. Since a rover usually gives his grid, at least every few calls, I may say "Grid CM94, My Call" for example and the rover usually comes back at me and I appreciate that and I will then give my call and grid. Sometimes that is the best that can be done. I get his call when he comes back to me. I also record every pass on my iPhone. My memory isn't geed enough to remember 5 calls (or more, if I am roving) that I just worked, along with the activities of pointing an antenna and manually adjusting Doppler, so I rely on my recording. I know it is difficult to understand, but working portable is a lot different than sitting in front of an SDR computer screen in one's shack, with a 9700 with a speaker system and elevating and rotating, computer controlled yagi antennas. Some of us are doing this under not-so-ideal conditions. I have worked with my Arrow in the rain and in a snowstorm, several times without gloves, with noisy trucks going by and people asking me what I am doing,while trying to work. I have been asked if I am tracking animals and once as I was setting up, someone threatened to call the police. (I offered to let him use my phone, and I have Amateur Radio plates on my vehicles.) So, please cut some of us a little slack, if we are not operating exactly by "the book." Also, getting stepped on by the rude, big guns will eradicate part of the call. (Big guns are certainly more important than little portables.) If it is his/her call that gets stepped on, I can pick it up as he/she makes more contacts. If it is my call, I will email him/her to verify what my call is and make sure the contact is correct. Many times the person will thank me because he was missing one letter. Brad KC9UQR



From list at k0nr.com  Mon Apr 13 19:29:18 2020
From: list at k0nr.com (Bob K0NR - email list)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:29:18 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAFeVdENm_f79Tq8+5uFPM9eo2BOTustS=zTQVWoj=UbAa_S_cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ef1398ad-0d1a-002e-f78c-44860de549dc@k0nr.com>

Overhead on Twitter:

"Does anyone know what station I just worked on SO-50?
I am not sure of the callsign, but I think it starts with Kilo. I also 
need the grid."

Bob K0NR



From ki7unj at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 20:18:58 2020
From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:18:58 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <ef1398ad-0d1a-002e-f78c-44860de549dc@k0nr.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAFeVdENm_f79Tq8+5uFPM9eo2BOTustS=zTQVWoj=UbAa_S_cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
	<ef1398ad-0d1a-002e-f78c-44860de549dc@k0nr.com>
Message-ID: <CAPFr_Un-c8Bvk+n_5GKGSVxDRwpRmiT-PfDB+xMTevyvxTq6NA@mail.gmail.com>

I always get a chuckle when I hear this, now if they said "who was it I
heard I want to sked with them for a later contact"  that makes sense.

Posting of "who did I work?" on twitter is the original reason @hambadges
on twitter exists, and this was the EXACT reason the first badge was created

The First "HamBadge"  --->
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/hP5_spKTuy3bDPwHWbvzvhkmxa8F_fU_YSjyjUQdiYjp_A_UaLp1HdaZl1jG_3e6URyWbg0UkQ=w1280


https://twitter.com/HamBadges

If you need twitter/Facepalm/Etc to tell you who you worked.... you DIDNT
WORK THEM!!!



On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:05 PM Bob K0NR - email list via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Overhead on Twitter:
>
> "Does anyone know what station I just worked on SO-50?
> I am not sure of the callsign, but I think it starts with Kilo. I also
> need the grid."
>
> Bob K0NR
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


-- 
*Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ*
https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
http://bit.do/ki7unj
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Mon Apr 13 20:20:09 2020
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:20:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <D296C3D6-709E-4DBC-AB35-FB1B503EC29F@ny4i.com>
References: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<D296C3D6-709E-4DBC-AB35-FB1B503EC29F@ny4i.com>
Message-ID: <eb157cd0-58aa-8626-aa05-39dd4878e5f0@k6ccc.org>

On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer in-use, satellites in these files? The
> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore. Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option?as in one never even sees it.
>
Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.? 
AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was 
confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.

-- 
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim at k6ccc.org
Ofc:  818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395


From w3ab at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 13 20:24:03 2020
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:24:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cheap 10W solar panels
In-Reply-To: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <888621441.5185389.1586809443351@mail.yahoo.com>

That link was an error on my side. Their email didn't have a hot link in it. I apologize.
ML Solar is in Campbell, CA and can be reached at 408.583.8101.?http://www.mlsolar.com
 I have purchased many items from them, you can stop by and do a will-call if you wish.
They are selling?these for $5.00/ea with a minimum quantity of 20 pcs. Currently listed on ebay for $25.00 ea.
---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out". 

    On Monday, April 13, 2020, 12:44:13 PM PDT, GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 The link is to ML Solar, local to me in Cali.
https://tinyurl.com/txyw2bj

---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
  

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 20:28:00 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:28:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <ef1398ad-0d1a-002e-f78c-44860de549dc@k0nr.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAFeVdENm_f79Tq8+5uFPM9eo2BOTustS=zTQVWoj=UbAa_S_cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
	<ef1398ad-0d1a-002e-f78c-44860de549dc@k0nr.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOXzDCw6WxqVO9wXDS+XQxM5J=hcdFQ2nwqxRjFa+MW2w@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah we see that on this mailing list too, though your Twitter example is
the most striking I have seen. They don't even know the first letter?!

I guess if they repeated the callsign over the air it would be a contact...
But if you can't log it because you can't remember it and you didn't record
it...

Hopefully this is a new operator who is still building out their setup and
learning to multitask.

73, John Brier KG4AKV


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:06 Bob K0NR - email list via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Overhead on Twitter:
>
> "Does anyone know what station I just worked on SO-50?
> I am not sure of the callsign, but I think it starts with Kilo. I also
> need the grid."
>
> Bob K0NR
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Apr 13 20:35:56 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:35:56 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cheap 10W solar panels
In-Reply-To: <888621441.5185389.1586809443351@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>
	<888621441.5185389.1586809443351@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d91c4d06-5279-22ea-be1b-30dcf19f8262@pobox.com>

On 04/13/20 15:24, GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> That link was an error on my side. Their email didn't have a hot link in it. I apologize.
> ML Solar is in Campbell, CA and can be reached at 408.583.8101.?http://www.mlsolar.com
>   I have purchased many items from them, you can stop by and do a will-call if you wish.
> They are selling?these for $5.00/ea with a minimum quantity of 20 pcs. Currently listed on ebay for $25.00 ea.

Note that this is $2/watt, far more expensive than other offerings.

For example:

https://smile.amazon.com/Richsolar-Polycrystalline-Efficiency-Module-Marine/dp/B07DNP14JY

That panel, 3.3' x 2.2', is 100 Watts for $80, or $0.80/watt. This price 
is low-average in terms of $/watt and the panel is pretty small. Not a 
backpacker's delight, but definitely enough to cart around for remote 
operation.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 20:36:38 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:36:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <eb157cd0-58aa-8626-aa05-39dd4878e5f0@k6ccc.org>
References: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<D296C3D6-709E-4DBC-AB35-FB1B503EC29F@ny4i.com>
	<eb157cd0-58aa-8626-aa05-39dd4878e5f0@k6ccc.org>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>

I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
reasons.

Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
section of the file.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
> in-use, satellites in these files? The
> > Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
> never even sees it.
> >
> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim at k6ccc.org
> Ofc:  818-548-4804
> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Mon Apr 13 20:42:21 2020
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOrM21ADPJ4TzGq_vOwM4BJh7CO7rrnKbs+8nSNnmDK3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200410172625.645b6f37474ae87377c22aa1@yknwt.ca>
	<CAKoB7OpnOfYa37A+BRHDSa8Z=XWv6x9nBjVq5_JoNsumAPDXWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAJiE8OLczME6pwZGpQbgUDZN4h7n5Mv2iimiCW5cC+VUdp2pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPFr_UmEyXhvfK7zNArwy--Un4beUrG22qyrL3p2JWP+88zmEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1619670343.2973265.1586709356720@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAFeVdENm_f79Tq8+5uFPM9eo2BOTustS=zTQVWoj=UbAa_S_cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<891420647.4593996.1586724247648@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALn0fKOrM21ADPJ4TzGq_vOwM4BJh7CO7rrnKbs+8nSNnmDK3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1167696160.5079478.1586810541901@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi John,
I'm sure the FCC has no interest in what a QSO is as long as a transmittingstation properly ID's.
Various Ham Organizations have their own rules for what they consider a validQSO, mainly for Awards/Contests/Records. Anyone using a made-up means tocreate QSOs really cheapens things for everyone. Someone cheating for thingslike that brings down the value of them to zero!
GL/73,? ?Bob? K8BL

    On Monday, April 13, 2020, 03:26:10 PM EDT, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Bob this is how I do it.
The only exception is occasionally if I get tongue tied and can't spit out their call right I will sometimes say "got it on the recording" and still count it. I prefer not to but have done it and others also do it.
If someone doesn't agree with that my defense is I am dyslexic so give me a break. ;-)
This thread has reminded me that, afaik, the FCC rules don't define a contact, so as someone else said, it really depends on what you and the other station agree on. Contests or other awards may specify and for that you have to do what their rules are, obviously.
73, John Brier

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 16:51 Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:


I've been Roving for quite a few years. It takes a lot of time and effort
and $$$ to activate some of the Grids I've been to. My joy is to give out
Grids to those who need them. It's all done gladly and willingly.

This is what I consider a "Good Contact".?

1 - I set up and wait for the Pass and announce my Call/Grid when I hear myself.
2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.
3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid
4 - That's a "Good Contact" - they heard me & responded, I heard them & responded
5 - Contact logged, next station calls.

The Pass is copied on my Sony ICD-BX140 Digital Recorder via a mini-mic
placed in one side of my headphones which catches both sides of the QSO. Then,
when I return to where I'm staying, I transcribe the QSOs for uploading to
LoTW. If there is doubt with a Call, I'll listen to the recording again to verify.

This has worked very well for me for over 125 different Grid activations and
many several times as I travel. I don't recall any complaints, however, they would
all be handled appropriately(!).

GL/73,? ? Bob? K8BL? ? ? ? ? ? ?(AMSAT #6593, since 1979)

P.S. The Digital Recorder can be seen in a pic on my QRZ Page.
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Mon Apr 13 21:02:36 2020
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good Contact???
In-Reply-To: <308791304.5156271.1586807450925@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <308791304.5156271.1586807450925.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<308791304.5156271.1586807450925@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1094609874.5156474.1586811756535@mail.yahoo.com>

 Brad,
Make sure you have your FCC License with you when roving. Police maywant to see it since it would make them feel better that they "Checked you out."Also, saying that you are testing/verifying the ability to conduct emergencycommunications in case of a disaster might be helpful (and truthful).
I've been accused of tracking animals several times. HIHI? Check out my QRZPage for a story.
73,? ? ?Bob? K8BL

    On Monday, April 13, 2020, 03:51:07 PM EDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 <2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid>
Since I am always operating handheld or portable, whether at my QTH, or roving, I cannot write the call down as it is being said, as both of my hands happen to be employed at the moment. Since a rover usually gives his grid, at least every few calls, I may say "Grid CM94, My Call" for example and the rover usually comes back at me and I appreciate that and I will then give my call and grid. Sometimes that is the best that can be done. I get his call when he comes back to me. I also record every pass on my iPhone. My memory isn't geed enough to remember 5 calls (or more, if I am roving) that I just worked, along with the activities of pointing an antenna and manually adjusting Doppler, so I rely on my recording. I know it is difficult to understand, but working portable is a lot different than sitting in front of an SDR computer screen in one's shack, with a 9700 with a speaker system and elevating and rotating, computer controlled yagi antennas. Some of us are doing this under not-so
 -ideal conditions. I have worked with my Arrow in the rain and in a snowstorm, several times without gloves, with noisy trucks going by and people asking me what I am doing,while trying to work. I have been asked if I am tracking animals and once as I was setting up, someone threatened to call the police. (I offered to let him use my phone, and I have Amateur Radio plates on my vehicles.) So, please cut some of us a little slack, if we are not operating exactly by "the book." Also, getting stepped on by the rude, big guns will eradicate part of the call. (Big guns are certainly more important than little portables.) If it is his/her call that gets stepped on, I can pick it up as he/she makes more contacts. If it is my call, I will email him/her to verify what my call is and make sure the contact is correct. Many times the person will thank me because he was missing one letter. Brad KC9UQR


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From va3mw at portcredit.net  Mon Apr 13 21:07:46 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:07:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+33ts5Y2p79NaM-b8c=UXRSwH7gJwdm3AoHY8g6Ca-T2+Zh-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<D296C3D6-709E-4DBC-AB35-FB1B503EC29F@ny4i.com>
	<eb157cd0-58aa-8626-aa05-39dd4878e5f0@k6ccc.org>
	<CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts7Yzq3RqGsVW0vmQBYehO1zzZPsSBN73zROArdjDdXB8A@mail.gmail.com>

I would love a purged list of only active birds.

What I will do is compare my list to those on Amsat's pages.  If something
comes back from the dead, it is easy enough to add.

Mike va3mw


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:40 PM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> reasons.
>
> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> section of the file.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
> > in-use, satellites in these files? The
> > > Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
> > Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
> > adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
> > never even sees it.
> > >
> > Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
> > AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
> > confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
> >
> > --
> > 73
> > -------------------------------------
> > Jim Walls - K6CCC
> > jim at k6ccc.org
> > Ofc:  818-548-4804
> > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> > AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
> >
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Apr 13 21:10:38 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:10:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cheap 10W solar panels
In-Reply-To: <d91c4d06-5279-22ea-be1b-30dcf19f8262@pobox.com>
References: <881583031.5123674.1586806749874.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<881583031.5123674.1586806749874@mail.yahoo.com>
	<888621441.5185389.1586809443351@mail.yahoo.com>
	<d91c4d06-5279-22ea-be1b-30dcf19f8262@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <a34d511c-fb18-9009-82ce-b382714443f2@pobox.com>

On 04/13/20 15:35, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:

>> They are selling?these for $5.00/ea with a minimum quantity of 20 pcs. 
>> Currently listed on ebay for $25.00 ea.
> 
> Note that this is $2/watt, far more expensive than other offerings.

*sigh* This is why I'm not a mathematics professor.

I retract my previous statement regarding these $0.50/watt panels. They 
are a good price.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 21:31:56 2020
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:31:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D1D7C8E-391F-48C4-A187-B7452774B885@gmail.com>

As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply just a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to differentiate between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead simple to edit the file. With so many different opinions, like everything else, on how it should be done it?s easier if people just generate what fits their need. A satellite no longer is relevant to you, delete the line. Something new in orbit, add a line. We have the technology https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> reasons.
> 
> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> section of the file.
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
>> in-use, satellites in these files? The
>>> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
>> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
>> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
>> never even sees it.
>>> 
>> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
>> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
>> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>> 
>> --
>> 73
>> -------------------------------------
>> Jim Walls - K6CCC
>> jim at k6ccc.org
>> Ofc:  818-548-4804
>> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
>> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>> 
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From ny4i at ny4i.com  Mon Apr 13 21:48:09 2020
From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:48:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <9D1D7C8E-391F-48C4-A187-B7452774B885@gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9D1D7C8E-391F-48C4-A187-B7452774B885@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DDCBAC7B-AC2E-447E-A437-ADDAB4FE7CAD@ny4i.com>

Agreed regarding DOPPLER.SQL, deleting entries is easy. I will create a new thread as I crossed two ideas and it is confusing people.

Thanks,

Tom
Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)




> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply just a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to differentiate between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead simple to edit the file. With so many different opinions, like everything else, on how it should be done it?s easier if people just generate what fits their need. A satellite no longer is relevant to you, delete the line. Something new in orbit, add a line. We have the technology https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
> 
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
>> reasons.
>> 
>> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
>> section of the file.
>> 
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
>>> in-use, satellites in these files? The
>>>> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
>>> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
>>> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
>>> never even sees it.
>>>> 
>>> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
>>> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
>>> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 73
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> Jim Walls - K6CCC
>>> jim at k6ccc.org
>>> Ofc:  818-548-4804
>>> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
>>> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>>> 
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
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From ny4i at ny4i.com  Mon Apr 13 22:01:41 2020
From: ny4i at ny4i.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:01:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- Limit satellites to active ones?
In-Reply-To: <DDCBAC7B-AC2E-447E-A437-ADDAB4FE7CAD@ny4i.com>
References: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9D1D7C8E-391F-48C4-A187-B7452774B885@gmail.com>
	<DDCBAC7B-AC2E-447E-A437-ADDAB4FE7CAD@ny4i.com>
Message-ID: <5A995A6C-6F9E-4E01-A67D-A5F3307C77B5@ny4i.com>

A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer in-use, satellites in these files? This is not about the DOPPLER.SQL file but more about the lists in general as the elements files are full of objects one can never use for communications.  For example, when I open the Satellite dialog, I see 200 available satellites. I have my filters setup but there is a big list of essentially no communication use?unless it comes back from the dead and the AMSAT News will tell me that I have no doubt.

I was asking if one could filter the ?Available? list but that looks to be just a representation of the files underneath (amateur.txt, cubesat.txt, etc).

Just as we have editors for Doppler.SQL, I think one answer might be to create a new file with the active satellites in it (derived from the AMSAT satellites page). I can then use that my ?Active sats? Keps file as my input. I can programmatically build the active sats file from the downloaded elements files. That seems like an easy Perl script I can put on a website.

As far as a feature request (and this is purely for usability), I would summarize it thusly, add a feature where one can list the name of the satellites one wants to see in the Available file. This would be an Active filter. You can enable that with a checkbox to see active sats or all for historical reference. Then even though the program downloads the latest elements, it would only show the satellites in the active file or all if Active is not checked.

 

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 22:55:43 2020
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:55:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
In-Reply-To: <9D1D7C8E-391F-48C4-A187-B7452774B885@gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKNdPRfkDt1Sxh1989CsoOVw7mAJbgU8uNCzgwhRjG8ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9D1D7C8E-391F-48C4-A187-B7452774B885@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN4GayVgTQqLaO-gcV=YcC1v54pCC7Eq22H4723HzH_BA@mail.gmail.com>

I should have been more specific about what I meant when I used the word
sections.

Add a comment somewhere in the file that says something like "the sats
below are dead." In that way you create sections using comments as headers.

At the very least you could say satellites that have re-entered the
atmosphere are dead.

That said, yes, it is not hard to edit the files as you prefer.

One advantage to having the default files list sats in different sections
would be that all the people who prefer that don't have to do the same
change themselves on new installs.

It could also be helpful to new satops who might not know what sats are
alive or dead.

73, John Brier KG4AKV


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 17:31 Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:

> As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply just
> a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to differentiate
> between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead simple to edit the
> file. With so many different opinions, like everything else, on how it
> should be done it?s easier if people just generate what fits their need. A
> satellite no longer is relevant to you, delete the line. Something new in
> orbit, add a line. We have the technology
> https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
> On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> reasons.
>
> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> section of the file.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
>
> in-use, satellites in these files? The
>
> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
>
> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
>
> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
>
> never even sees it.
>
>
> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
>
> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
>
> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>
>
> --
>
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From devin at thecabal.org  Mon Apr 13 23:04:42 2020
From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:04:42 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
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Replied directly to Mike and John with my first response, copying to the list now.

Straight CSV format doesn't provide support for comments, and while it's probably not terribly complex to add support for them to a parser, there are other ways to do the job.

For example, import the CSV file into Excel (or your spreadsheet manipulation program of choice). Add a column "Status" and for each line, mark whether they are active or inactive. Save it as a proper Excel workbook (.xlsx).

Then, create a new worksheet in the same workbook (new tab down at the bottom). With a little bit of Excel-fu, you can have that worksheet display only those rows from the original worksheet that have "Active" in the Status field you just added. You can simply then save that worksheet as CSV to create your new working CSV file, but still have all of those original entries backed up and archived.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of John Brier
> via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:56 PM
> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
> 
> I should have been more specific about what I meant when I used the word
> sections.
> 
> Add a comment somewhere in the file that says something like "the sats
> below are dead." In that way you create sections using comments as headers.
> 
> At the very least you could say satellites that have re-entered the atmosphere
> are dead.
> 
> That said, yes, it is not hard to edit the files as you prefer.
> 
> One advantage to having the default files list sats in different sections would
> be that all the people who prefer that don't have to do the same change
> themselves on new installs.
> 
> It could also be helpful to new satops who might not know what sats are alive
> or dead.
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 17:31 Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply
> > just a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to
> > differentiate between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead
> > simple to edit the file. With so many different opinions, like
> > everything else, on how it should be done it?s easier if people just
> > generate what fits their need. A satellite no longer is relevant to
> > you, delete the line. Something new in orbit, add a line. We have the
> > technology https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
> >
> > 73,
> > Mike Diehl
> > W8LID/VE6LID
> >
> > On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> > reasons.
> >
> > Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> > section of the file.
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >
> > A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no
> > longer
> >
> > in-use, satellites in these files? The
> >
> > Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
> >
> > Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
> >
> > adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in
> > one
> >
> > never even sees it.
> >
> >
> > Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
> >
> > AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
> >
> > confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > 73
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > Jim Walls - K6CCC
> >
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From yokshs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 14:50:21 2020
From: yokshs at gmail.com (Kyle Y)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 09:50:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wanted: Icom AG25 preamp
Message-ID: <CAJwRzNORjOGfwkge0QsXSxMvntYwVRwZO-YjmfzEZErN8qnj+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Anybody have an Icom AG25 preamp that they'd like to sell?

Please contact me directly if so. Thanks. 73

Kyle
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From wizardofzid at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 06:41:12 2020
From: wizardofzid at gmail.com (wizardofzid)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 23:41:12 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
Message-ID: <5e97fe0a.1c69fb81.9e34d.95ec@mx.google.com>

I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency) 5-10 min. before the FM pass.? It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM receiver but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.? Seems to fade out prior to the AO-91 pass.? I expect it is an analog bird but so far I haven't figured out which.? Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 07:03:29 2020
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:03:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
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Most likely it is the Max Valier satellite. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:42 AM, wizardofzid via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency) 5-10 min. before the FM pass.  It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM receiver but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.  Seems to fade out prior to the AO-91 pass.  I expect it is an analog bird but so far I haven't figured out which.  Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From SaguaroAstro at cox.net  Thu Apr 16 22:41:37 2020
From: SaguaroAstro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:41:37 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
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Jeff, that is probably it. Rusty lives a few miles from me so I  ran it in SatPC 32 and found MVS came over DM33 at 1736UT 15 Apr on a descending pass and AO-91 came over on an ascending pas at 1745UT. Dm33 was in the mutual footprint between 1745 and 1747.

I'll have to listen for it, from the looks of things these two bird cross path fairly often.

Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz

Most likely it is the Max Valier satellite. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:42 AM, wizardofzid via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency) 
> 5-10 min. before the FM pass.  It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM 
> receiver but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.  Seems to fade 
> out prior to the AO-91 pass.  I expect it is an analog bird but so far 
> I haven't figured out which.  Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my 
> Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 
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From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 22:51:14 2020
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 17:51:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
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Yep. It?s a real nuisance and causes a lot of issues when trying to work AO-91. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Rick Tejera <SaguaroAstro at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Jeff, that is probably it. Rusty lives a few miles from me so I  ran it in SatPC 32 and found MVS came over DM33 at 1736UT 15 Apr on a descending pass and AO-91 came over on an ascending pas at 1745UT. Dm33 was in the mutual footprint between 1745 and 1747.
> 
> I'll have to listen for it, from the looks of things these two bird cross path fairly often.
> 
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
> www.W7TBC.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 00:03
> To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
> 
> Most likely it is the Max Valier satellite. 
> 
> Jeff WE4B 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:42 AM, wizardofzid via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency) 
>> 5-10 min. before the FM pass.  It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM 
>> receiver but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.  Seems to fade 
>> out prior to the AO-91 pass.  I expect it is an analog bird but so far 
>> I haven't figured out which.  Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my 
>> Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 
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From penguin359 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 17 22:57:55 2020
From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:57:55 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID: <CACymvmceU8hYUbq4XC4M98p3zFVnruSFA8zmDrLN9sb4GpbUKA@mail.gmail.com>

I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
this satellite.

I am using a Yaesu FT-3DR with an Elk Antenna. I had very clear audio for
much of the pass which is usually the more difficult part from experience.
On that pass, I heard:

DN17
N6AJ DM05
KA7FVV
K8YSE/7 DM43
WJ7WJ CN85

I'm not looking for LoTW confirmations, just if any of them heard me at
all. I have five presets, all receive on 145.900 and transmit on 437.490,
437.495, 437.500, 437.505, and 437.510 MHz in that order. When pressing
PTT, my radio showed the corresponding TX frequency and also TN 141.3 along
with FM in the corner so I can't figure out what I was doing wrong
especially during the peak when it should be close to being on frequency.
I've been very successful with my set up on AO-91, AO-92, and SO-50 so it
leaves me completely befuddled what I did wrong.

Confused,
Loren
K7IW

From royldean at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 00:05:44 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:05:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID: <CADGPg2uR_cXu62Tw5znLO6NdjhigoggOmQG872=YQ7Z0NxcKdg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
> not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> this satellite


PO-101 is very stubborn when it comes to uplink power.   I've never tried
below 10 watts, and even when I'm using 20 watts (which is now my standard
with it), it sometimes "cuts out" in the middle of a qso.   It may be even
more difficult with just an HT and an Elk, which isn't all that great on
70cm to start with.   YMMV.

--Roy
K3RLD

From bwilkins at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 00:11:39 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:11:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
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I have only made it into PO-101 once and that was after ?upgrading? to an
Arrow II antenna. I also use a 5W HT

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:07 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> >
> > I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> > just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> > satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in.
> I'm
> > not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> > this satellite
>
>
> PO-101 is very stubborn when it comes to uplink power.   I've never tried
> below 10 watts, and even when I'm using 20 watts (which is now my standard
> with it), it sometimes "cuts out" in the middle of a qso.   It may be even
> more difficult with just an HT and an Elk, which isn't all that great on
> 70cm to start with.   YMMV.
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
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From saguaroastro at cox.net  Sat Apr 18 02:37:31 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:37:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
In-Reply-To: <CAO_Eq30Kog-eXi-f8tqYRUmgT2QoiMSXchEhW0jh+oxD=kbJAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200418023736.740C98034@lansing182.amsat.org>

I have no problems getting into it with 10 watts and an Elk. I am curious as to why he is having trouble. He sounds like he"s got things set up correctly.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 4/17/20  17:12  (GMT-07:00) To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me I have only made it into PO-101 once and that was after ?upgrading? to anArrow II antenna. I also use a 5W HTOn Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:07 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>wrote:> >> > I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z> > just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the> > satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in.> I'm> > not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with> > this satellite>>> PO-101 is very stubborn when it comes to uplink power.?? I've never tried> below 10 watts, and even when I'm using 20 watts (which is now my standard> with it), it sometimes "cuts out" in the middle of a qso.?? It may be even> more difficult with just an HT and an Elk, which isn't all that great on> 70cm to start with.?? YMMV.>> --Roy> K3RLD> _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions> expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of> AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>-- Brian WilkinsKO4AQF_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 18 02:42:39 2020
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:42:39 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
In-Reply-To: <CACymvmceU8hYUbq4XC4M98p3zFVnruSFA8zmDrLN9sb4GpbUKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACymvmceU8hYUbq4XC4M98p3zFVnruSFA8zmDrLN9sb4GpbUKA@mail.gmail.com>
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Today was my first contact through PO-101.  Always missed the schedule.  Nice it is on all the time now.  I noticed the downlink would cut out occasionally.  Double check you have the 141.3 tone for the uplink.  I am in DN17.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 15:58, Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
> not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> this satellite.
> 
> I am using a Yaesu FT-3DR with an Elk Antenna. I had very clear audio for
> much of the pass which is usually the more difficult part from experience.
> On that pass, I heard:
> 
> DN17
> N6AJ DM05
> KA7FVV
> K8YSE/7 DM43
> WJ7WJ CN85
> 
> I'm not looking for LoTW confirmations, just if any of them heard me at
> all. I have five presets, all receive on 145.900 and transmit on 437.490,
> 437.495, 437.500, 437.505, and 437.510 MHz in that order. When pressing
> PTT, my radio showed the corresponding TX frequency and also TN 141.3 along
> with FM in the corner so I can't figure out what I was doing wrong
> especially during the peak when it should be close to being on frequency.
> I've been very successful with my set up on AO-91, AO-92, and SO-50 so it
> leaves me completely befuddled what I did wrong.
> 
> Confused,
> Loren
> K7IW
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From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 18 02:42:39 2020
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:42:39 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
In-Reply-To: <CACymvmceU8hYUbq4XC4M98p3zFVnruSFA8zmDrLN9sb4GpbUKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACymvmceU8hYUbq4XC4M98p3zFVnruSFA8zmDrLN9sb4GpbUKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A5AFE5F6-7162-491D-8C5C-BA2BF7936819@yahoo.com>

Today was my first contact through PO-101.  Always missed the schedule.  Nice it is on all the time now.  I noticed the downlink would cut out occasionally.  Double check you have the 141.3 tone for the uplink.  I am in DN17.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 15:58, Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
> not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> this satellite.
> 
> I am using a Yaesu FT-3DR with an Elk Antenna. I had very clear audio for
> much of the pass which is usually the more difficult part from experience.
> On that pass, I heard:
> 
> DN17
> N6AJ DM05
> KA7FVV
> K8YSE/7 DM43
> WJ7WJ CN85
> 
> I'm not looking for LoTW confirmations, just if any of them heard me at
> all. I have five presets, all receive on 145.900 and transmit on 437.490,
> 437.495, 437.500, 437.505, and 437.510 MHz in that order. When pressing
> PTT, my radio showed the corresponding TX frequency and also TN 141.3 along
> with FM in the corner so I can't figure out what I was doing wrong
> especially during the peak when it should be close to being on frequency.
> I've been very successful with my set up on AO-91, AO-92, and SO-50 so it
> leaves me completely befuddled what I did wrong.
> 
> Confused,
> Loren
> K7IW
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Sat Apr 18 04:16:43 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 23:16:43 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Interesting news about on-orbit geostationary satellite
	maintenance
Message-ID: <C8457B99-21DF-4865-BE47-44D2CD6DD866@pobox.com>

"For the first time ever, a robotic spacecraft caught an old satellite and extended its life"

https://tinyurl.com/y7ta8qzr

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From ve8rt at yknwt.ca  Sat Apr 18 11:33:49 2020
From: ve8rt at yknwt.ca (Ron VE8RT)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 05:33:49 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] VE8RAC on for WARD 12z-24z
Message-ID: <20200418053349.c8b8daae52d3688190aeff79@yknwt.ca>

   with some breaks for meals and shopping I hope to be active on
satellites for World Amateur Radio Day using the call sign VE8RAC.
This will be on U/v satellites, linear and FM (making an effort to use
best practices to reduce QRM), but not AO7 which is too fragile.
QSLing will be through the Radio Amateurs of Canada www.rac.ca as this
is there call sign not my own.

   A note about QSLing, for my own call sign, please keep in mind that
US stamps on a SASE will not work here.  If sending me a QSL through
the mail a self addressed envelope is appreciated, and unless the
demand gets too high I don't mind covering return postage.  Otherwise
unless I forget I'll return the SASE when I mail out my QSL card so
that it may be used within the US.

  73  Ron VE8RT, and for a few hours today only VE8RAC

-- 
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>

From wizardofzid at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 18:37:09 2020
From: wizardofzid at gmail.com (Russ Kinner)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:37:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91 and CW
Message-ID: <qip9wa3g1aoe6l5n0htwv9dx.1587235029220@email.android.com>

Thanks guys, more curious than anything.  I scanned thru the list and didn't see Max with 145.96 telemetry.

Rusty

From aa5uk at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 18 21:32:50 2020
From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:32:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for CAS-4B Pass recording 20:57 UTC pass
References: <1704952526.1898325.1587245570485.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1704952526.1898325.1587245570485@mail.yahoo.com>

I just worked the AO-7 pass (recording was OK) and the following CAS-4B pass but I forgot to turn on the recorder on the CAS-4B pass
I copied a N9??P, W? and a WH6E??
Can someone please send a recording if they have it. Thank you!
73, Adrian AA5UK EN61

From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 21:37:41 2020
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:37:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for CAS-4B Pass recording 20:57 UTC pass
Message-ID: <3357BA01-2925-45B7-AC2B-4C82508EE23F@gmail.com>

WH6E was on and he is in FL not HI. The first time I worked him the call surprised me as well. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 

From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Sun Apr 19 00:00:00 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 19:00:00 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-110 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnDAtVrOKjx+bxo+waxbUFtOVnvn5dR=tA7ii2_CZowh8w@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
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the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who
share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun-
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The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
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In this edition:

* ARRL, AMSAT Seek Changes in FCC Orbital Debris Mitigation Proposals
* House Committee Leaders Request FCC Delay Rulemaking on Space Debris
* 3D Printed Cubesat Simulator Frame Design Posted
* New OSCAR T-Shirt Available from AMSAT Zazzle Store
* Receiving SMOG-P and ATL-1 Nano Satellites With an RTL-SDR
* Commercial Blogs Feature Introductions to Satellite Operations
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* ARISS News
* Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-110.01
ANS-110 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 110.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE 2020 April 19
To All RADIO AMATEURS
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ARRL, AMSAT Seek Changes in FCC Orbital Debris Mitigation Proposals

ARRL Washington Counsel Dave Siddall, K3ZJ, and AMSAT Executive Vice
President Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, on April 8, discussed with senior FCC
International Bureau staff by telephone the FCC?s draft Report & Order
(R&O) on mitigation of orbital debris (IB Docket No. 18-313). The ama-
teur representatives told the FCC staff that ?two aspects of the draft
regulations are of particular concern?. and would seriously hinder
amateur radio?s future operations in space, if adopted as proposed
without the relatively minor changes that we propose.?

First, ARRL and AMSAT requested a revision to proposed language that
otherwise would allow only private individual licensees to indemnify
the U.S. for the operations of an amateur space satellite. ARRL and
AMSAT requested that satellite owners be added to that provision. The
amateur representatives, noting that amateur radio licensees may only
be individuals under the amateur rules, stated that ?[i]n no other
service would an individual be required to personally make a similar
indemnification? and that ?it would be difficult to impossible to find
an individual Amateur Radio licensee willing to bear that risk.?

Second, ARRL and AMSAT asked the FCC to delay by 3 years the proposed
effective date of April 23, 2022, for a rule that would require satel-
lite operators to certify that space stations ?be designed with the
maneuvering capabilities sufficient to perform collision avoidance?
for spacecraft designed to operate above 400 kilometers in altitude.
Citing the long lead times to design and construct Amateur satellites,
ARRL and AMSAT suggested that a more reasonable date would be April 23,
2025 and noted that, based on recent past years, only an estimated 3-5
amateur satellites likely would be launched during the extra period.

?We do not disagree with the purpose of this requirement,? they told
the FCC staff, but ?the proposed effective date is unreasonable in the
case of amateur radio satellites.? The new effective date ?would allow
time for amateur spacecraft designers to adapt to this new require-
ment,? they said.

Citing the value of amateur satellites to the development of the com-
mercial small satellite industry, and student participation in such
projects, ARRL and AMSAT said a strong and robust Amateur Satellite
Service will help inspire future developments in satellite technology.
The requested changes to the draft R&O would help ensure that amateur
radio continues to have a future in space and contribute to the public
interest on an educational, non-pecuniary basis.

The FCC is expected to consider the R&O at its April 23 open meeting.
The AMSAT/ARRL document may be read in full at: https://bit.ly/2KjfHjf

[ANS thanks the American Radio Relay League for the above information]

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House Committee Leaders Request FCC Delay Rulemaking on Space Debris

House Science, Space, and Technology Committee Ranking Member Frank
Lucas, Chairwoman Eddie Bernice Johnson, Space & Aeronautics Subcom-
mittee Ranking Member Brian Babin, and Space & Aeronautics Subcommit-
tee Chairwoman Kendra Horn sent a letterrequesting that the Federal
Communication Commission (FCC) delay on their Proposed Rulemaking in
the matter of Mitigation of Orbital Debris in the New Space Age.

The Science Committee Members raised a number of concerns with moving
forward on the rule, including the timing of the action during the
COVID-19 pandemic. ?Given the unprecedented circumstances surrounding
the COVID-19 crisis, the immense effort undertaken to recover from the
pandemic, and the potential for the FCC?s proposal to exacerbate im-
pacts on U.S. industry and international competitiveness at a critical
period in our nation?s history, we hope that you will agree to postpone
future action,? the letter reads.

The letter also raises substantive concerns with the rule itself, the
rulemaking process, and the potential for regulatory and legislative
inconsistency, noting significant concerns from stakeholders [inclu-
ding AMSAT].

??The proposal contradicts Executive Branch policy and is inconsistent
with existing and proposed legislative action,? the letter states.
?Regulatory action by the FCC at this time, without clear authority
from Congress, will at the very least create confusion and undermine
the Commission?s work, and at worst undermine U.S. economic competi-
tiveness and leadership in space.? The letter also mentions that FCC
action could duplicate efforts at the Department of Commerce.

?The full text of the letter is available at: https://bit.ly/3bhJqoC

[ANS thanks spaceref.com for the above information]


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         Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office
    is closed until further notice. For details, please visit
  https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/

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3D Printed Cubesat Simulator Frame Design Posted

AMSAT VP - Educational Relations, Dr. Alan Johnston, KU2Y, posted his
build of the 3D printed 'Universal 1U Cubesat Frame' by Juliano85
at: https://thingiverse.com/make:789484  Alan notes, "It is a perfect
frame for the new AMSAT CubeSatSim, a low cost CubeSat functional
satellite model." Information on building the Simulator can found at:
http://cubesatsim.org

The CubeSatSim is a low cost satellite emulator that runs on solar pan-
els and batteries, and transmits UHF radio telemetry. The simulator is
a tool for education and demonstrations. It can be used in a classroom
or training setting to introduce the basics of satellites, or it can
be used to teach STEM (Science Technology Engineering and Math) con-
cepts. It can also be a stepping stone in a project to build and
launch an actual flight model CubeSat.

[ANS thanks Alan Johnston, KU2Y, VP - Educational Relations, for the
above information]


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           Purchase AMSAT Gear on our Zazzle storefront.
          25% of the purchase price of each product goes
            towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space
              https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear

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New OSCAR T-Shirt Available from AMSAT Zazzle Store

Thanks to an post on Twitter from Michael Styne, K2MTS, AMSAT is
pleased to offer a new t-shirt on the AMSAT Zazzle Store. This t-
shirt design is available in variants suitable for printing on either
dark or lightly colored shirts.

The shirt features a representation of AMSAT-OSCAR 7 in orbit with the
tagline "OSCAR - Adventure and Excitement in Space Age Communication"
This image was used in advertisements for the 1978 ARRL book "Getting
to Know OSCAR." The ARRL has granted AMSAT permission to republish
this classic image as a t-shirt.

Get yours today! 25% of the purchase price goes towards Keeping
Amateur Radio in Space.

https://www.zazzle.com/oscar_t_shirt_dark-235643945481104970

https://www.zazzle.com/oscar_t_shirt_light-235449229998854129

[ANS thanks Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, AMSAT Executive VP, for the above
information]

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Receiving SMOG-P and ATL-1 Nano Satellites With an RTL-SDR

Zoltan Doczi (HA7DCD) has published a tutorial that shows how to re-
ceive signals from the SMOG-P and ATL-1 nano satellites which were
launched via Rocket Lab back in late 2019.

SMOG-P is a Hungarian nano satellite developed by BME University. It's
payload consists of an on board spectrum analyzer that is designed to
measure electromagnetic pollution (electrosmog) from space, and to al-
so monitor the DVB-T spectrum. It currently holds the title of the
world's smallest satellite in operation.  ATL-1 is another Hungarian
satellite this time developed by ATL Ltd. Its mission is to test a new
thermal isolation material in space and to monitor the DVB-T spectrum.

To receive telemetry from these satellites one can use a Raspberry Pi,
RTL-SDR, Yagi, and optionally an LNA and filter. In his post Zoltan
shows how to install the SMOG-P decoder, and provides a script that
automatically decodes, uploads packets to the BME University server,
and archives old IQ files and packets.

Zoltan notes that if you wish to receive these satellites, now is the
time to do so as these nano satellites are in a very low orbit and on-
ly have an orbital lifespan of only 6-8 months total.

The full blog post with photos may be found at: https://bit.ly/2VeTk56
and at https://bit.ly/3cnfV4Z

[ANS thanks Zoltan Doczi, HA7DCD, and RTL-SDR.com for the above infor-
mation]


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     Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows,
    and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through
           AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards
                  Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
        https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/

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Commercial Blogs Feature Introductions to Satellite Operations

The official corporate blogs of two businesses closely related to the
amateur radio market have focused attention on introducing newcomers
to the world of satellites in this past week. Icom America, Inc. and
DX Engineering have both featured satellite operations in blog posts,
and have promoted these posts on their corporate social media channels.

Electronics manufacturer Icom America featured a post introducing sat-
ellite operations to newcomers this week. The blog post, authored by
Jim Wilson, K5ND, is titled, "Satellite Operations ? Amazing Technol-
ogy, Grids and Grins." The post is dated April 13, 2020.

In a social media post the same day, @IcomAmericaInc tweeted:
"Have you ever tried satellite operations? If you haven't, we have
a short blog by Jim Wilson @k5nd that can spark your interest.
Find out more at: https://bit.ly/2WWF0PU "

The blog entry, which includes many photos and graphics, offers some
basic information on satellites currently available, discusses ideas
for possible ground stations, and mentions satellite operating activi-
ties such as DX, grid chasing, and roaming. The post also includes a
link to amsat.org and promotes the 2019 Edition of Getting Started
with Amateur Satellites, published by AMSAT.

[ANS thanks Icom America for the above information]

Also, amateur radio retailer DX Engineering placed a satellite post in
the Technical Articles section of their "On All Bands" blog. The post,
by Sean Kutzko, KX9X, appeared on April 15.

Titled, "How to Predict and Track a Satellite Pass," the post offers a
basic primer on satellite tracking and reviews a number of online sat-
ellite tracking sites, as well as some of the available tracking soft-
ware and apps for Windows, iOS, and Android operating systems. SatPC32,
which is available through AMSAT, is prominently mentioned.

A Tweet from @SeanKutzko states: "To access a #hamradio satellite, you
have to know when it?s above the horizon and where to point your an-
tenna. My latest blog for @DXEngineering shows you how to do both!
https://onallbands.com/how-to-predict-and-track-a-satellite-pass/
@AMSAT #amsat #hamr #arrl #KX9X"

[ANS thanks Sean Kutzko, KX9X, for the above information]

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

Due to COVID-19, there are no announced satellite operations at this
moment. Any roving activity of which AMSAT becomes aware will be post-
ed at:
https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/

Until then, stay safe and keep making contacts from home.

Please submit any additions or corrections to ke4al (at) amsat.org

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT VP-User Services for the
above information]


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    AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
    radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
            be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit.

   Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

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ARISS News

ARISS lets students worldwide experience the excitement of talking
directly with crew members of the International Space Station, inspir-
ing them to pursue interests in careers in science, technology,
engineering and math, and engaging them with radio science technology
through amateur radio.

The ARISS team continues to test and firm up a plan to transform ARISS
contacts and how ARISS interacts with youth and education institutions.
ARISS will provide distance learning with every student and staff mem-
ber in their own homes (even quarantined).

[ANS thanks ARISS for the above information]

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Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events

Want to see AMSAT in action or learn more about amateur radio in space?
AMSAT Ambassadors provide presentations, demonstrate communicating
through amateur satellites, and host information tables at club meet-
ings, hamfests, conventions, maker faires, and other events.

Due to COVID-19, many hamfest and events around the United States have
been cancelled or postponed.  While we make every effort to ensure the
information contained below is correct, there may be some that we
missed. We wish all of you safekeeping and hope to be at a hamfest
near you soon.

Current schedule:

    (May 2, 2020) Arrowhead Radio Amateurs Club Hamfest, Superior, WI
       has been postponed to September 26, 2020
    June 12-13, 2020, Ham-Com, Plano, TX

The following events scheduled to have an AMSAT presence have been
CANCELED:

    March 21, 2020, Midwinter Madness Hamfest, Buffalo, MN
    March 21, 2020, Scottsdale Amateur Radio Club Hamfest,
              Scottsdale, AZ
    March 28, 2020, Tucson Spring Hamfest, Tucson, AZ
    March 29, 2020, Vienna Wireless Winterfest, Annandale, VA
    April 4, 2020 River Bend Wireless and Mechanical Society
              Presentation, Faribault, MN
    April 18, 2020 Brainerd Area Amateur Radio Club Hamfest,
              Brainerd, MN
    May 2, 2020, Cochise Amateur Radio Association Hamfest, Sierra
              Vista, AZ
    May 8-9, 2020 Prescott Hamfest, Prescott, AZ
    May 15-17, Hamvention, Xenia, OH

A copy of the AMSAT hamfest brochure is available for download from:
https://bit.ly/2ygVFmV  This color brochure is designed to be printed
double-sided and folded into a tri-fold handout.

To include your upcoming AMSAT presentation and/or demonstration,
please send an email to ambassadors (at) amsat (dot) org.

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT VP-User Services for the
above information]

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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ The Hubble Space Telescope explores the universe 24 hours a day, 7
  days a week. That means it has observed some fascinating cosmic won-
  der every day of the year, including on your birthday. What did Hub-
  ble look at on your birthday? Enter the month and date to find out
  at:  https://go.nasa.gov/2RJeAxu
  (ANS thanks NASA.gov for the above information)

+ The Youth on the Air Camp in the Americas, a summer camp for licens-
  ed amateur radio operators ages 15 through 25 that was scheduled to
  take place June 21 through June 26, 2020 at the National Voice of
  America Museum of Broadcasting in West Chester Township (North Cin-
  cinnati), Ohio has been postponed until the summer of 2021 due to
  the COVID-19 pandemic. A satellite session had been planned for this
  event. For more information about YOTA in the Americas can be found
  at YouthOnTheAir.org.
  (ANS thanks Camp Director Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, for the above informa-
  tion)

+ Houston, we?ve had a problem. April 11th marked the 50th anniversary
  of Apollo 13?s launch. Check out the amazing Apollo 13 in Real Time
  to follow the mission as it happened or jump to any point in the mis-
  sion timeline) at: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/  NASA also re-
  leased "Apollo 13: Home Safe," a 30 minute documentary that follows
  the mission, available at:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8kjDF0IJU  Apollo 13 remains one
  of the greatest all-time feats of human ingenuity and improvisation
  under pressure.
  (ANS thanks The Orbital Index for the above information)

+ Space has not been insulated from the virus. An article cataloging
  some of the impacts of the pandemic on the spaceflight, "How the
  Coronavirus Outbreak is Affecting the Space Industry," can be found
  at: http://www.satmagazine.com/story.php?number=818620039
  (ANS thanks SatMagazine for the above information)

+ The International Space Station Expedition 62 crew, consisting of
  NASA Flight Engineer Jessica Meir, Flight Engineer Andrew Morgan,
  KI5AAA, and Commander Oleg Skripochka, RA0LDJ, departed the Interna-
  tional Space Station and landed in Kazakhstan on Friday, 17 April.
  The Soyuz MS-15 spacecraft undocked from the aft port of the sta-
  tion's Zvezda service module at 0153z Friday, and landed on the
  Kazakh steppe at 0516z. The replacement crew, consisting of NASA
  astronaut Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR, and Roscosmos cosmonauts Anatoly
  Ivanishin and Ivan Vagner arrived at the ISS on April 9.
  (ANS thanks SpacelightNow for the above information)

+ ARRL members will now receive digital access to four ARRL magazines
  beginning with their latest issues. Joining QST and On the Air maga-
  zines on a digital platform will be the bimonthly editions of QEX ?
  The Forum for Communications Experimenters and NCJ ? National Con-
  test Journal.  Print subscriptions of QEX and NCJ will continue to
  be available at additional cost for those who want to receive them.
  All four magazines are easily accessed through any web browser from
  members-only links, or via the free ARRL Magazines app is available
  for iOS and Android.
  (ANS thanks ARRL for the above information)

+ Intelsat?s IS-901 satellite is nearly 20 years old, and well beyond
  its expected lifespan, but a small spacecraft built by Northrop
  Grumman succeeded in docking with the satellite and giving it an-
  other five years of service, the companies announced on Friday. The
  feat is a space industry first. Full article at:
  https://tinyurl.com/y7ta8qzr
  (ANS thanks Zach Metzinger, N0ZGO, and CNBC.com for the above infor-
  mation)


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73 and Remember to help keep amateur radio in space,
This week's ANS Editor, Mark D. Johns, K0JM

k0jm at amsat dot org

From kk5do at arrl.net  Sun Apr 19 20:44:32 2020
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:44:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W4AMI Award
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>

I have had a few questions and a bunch of submissions lately. I thought 
I would clear up some of the questions about this award. I have also 
updated the web page for the award with submission information.

Just a little history, Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI, was a very prolific 
operator and in his honor this certificate was created and the first 
certificate was issued to him on June 27, 1994. He has since become an 
SK and his local club has taken over his call sign. The award was 
originally the W4AMI Satellite Operator Achievement Award. The local 
club asked me not to use their call sign for the award. I changed the 
award to The Robert W. Barbee, Jr. W4AMI Satellite Operator Achievement 
Award. And here we are today, finally having issued over 100 
certificates and over 30 of the 5,000 certificate.

This award is for making 1,000 contacts with any station any time. You 
can say hello to your friend on every satellite on every pass every day 
and count those contacts. That being said, any contact you log counts. 
The award has endorsements for making 1,000 more contacts up to 4,000. 
Another 1,000 contacts will earn a special W4AMI 5,000 certificate.

To submit for the award, please email me an extract from your log either 
in Microsoft Excel XLS(X) format or ADI(F) format. Either will work just 
fine. Then wait for me to get back to you notifying you to go online and 
make your payment. I need nothing from LoTW, confirmed contacts are not 
an issue, this award is for simply making a contact.

73...bruce

-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
               
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From cathryn at junglevision.com  Sun Apr 19 23:39:56 2020
From: cathryn at junglevision.com (Cathryn Mataga)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:39:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>
	<570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>

I'd be fine with Amsat-Journal? being digital only, permanently. For me, 
best would be a plain unencrypted PDF file that I could download from 
the site, or receive via email.

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Sun Apr 19 23:54:01 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:54:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>
	<570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>
	<99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>
Message-ID: <5393215e-945a-2454-a907-efd4ea940571@pobox.com>

On 04/19/20 18:39, Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I'd be fine with Amsat-Journal? being digital only, permanently. For me, 
> best would be a plain unencrypted PDF file that I could download from 
> the site, or receive via email.

This is a bit non-sequitur, eh? Or did I miss something?

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From cathryn at junglevision.com  Mon Apr 20 00:01:01 2020
From: cathryn at junglevision.com (Cathryn Mataga)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <5393215e-945a-2454-a907-efd4ea940571@pobox.com>
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>
	<570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>
	<99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>
	<5393215e-945a-2454-a907-efd4ea940571@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>

 From the website.

"The March/April issue of /The AMSAT Journal/ will be produced on time. 
However, it may only be possible to publish it in digital format. Stay 
tuned for further updates."

On 4/19/2020 4:54 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On 04/19/20 18:39, Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> I'd be fine with Amsat-Journal? being digital only, permanently. For 
>> me, best would be a plain unencrypted PDF file that I could download 
>> from the site, or receive via email.
>
> This is a bit non-sequitur, eh? Or did I miss something?
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From bernd1peters at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 00:13:09 2020
From: bernd1peters at gmail.com (bernd1peters at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:13:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>	<570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>	<99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>	<5393215e-945a-2454-a907-efd4ea940571@pobox.com>
	<dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
Message-ID: <045801d616a8$7922aa00$6b67fe00$@gmail.com>

I would be perfectly happy with a PDF file, saves a ton of money.

73,
Bernd - KB7AK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:01 PM
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?

 From the website.

"The March/April issue of /The AMSAT Journal/ will be produced on time. 
However, it may only be possible to publish it in digital format. Stay tuned for further updates."

On 4/19/2020 4:54 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On 04/19/20 18:39, Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> I'd be fine with Amsat-Journal  being digital only, permanently. For 
>> me, best would be a plain unencrypted PDF file that I could download 
>> from the site, or receive via email.
>
> This is a bit non-sequitur, eh? Or did I miss something?
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
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Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From wb3csy at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 00:13:35 2020
From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:13:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
References: <dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
Message-ID: <93C63B61-8B74-4567-BB6C-041B94965A3F@gmail.com>

I receive Spectrum Monitor every month as a PDF. The magazine does not take up any space in the house, stores very nicely on the hard drive for future reference, AND it?s in color like the rest of the world. I imagine sending it out the journal to the membership as a PDF would save AMSAT a ton of money. Each issue is excellent and I always look forward to seeing/learning something new in the AMSAT Journal. Keep up the great work. 
73,
Rick WB3CSY

Sent from Rick's iPad 3
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact" - Carl Sagan

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> On Apr 19, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?From the website.
> 
> "The March/April issue of /The AMSAT Journal/ will be produced on time. However, it may only be possible to publish it in digital format. Stay tuned for further updates."
> 
>> On 4/19/2020 4:54 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> On 04/19/20 18:39, Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> I'd be fine with Amsat-Journal  being digital only, permanently. For me, best would be a plain unencrypted PDF file that I could download from the site, or receive via email.
>> 
>> This is a bit non-sequitur, eh? Or did I miss something?
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Mon Apr 20 00:17:13 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:17:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>
	<570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>
	<99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>
	<5393215e-945a-2454-a907-efd4ea940571@pobox.com>
	<dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
Message-ID: <684b3f62-7847-6a94-5225-041cd37877ea@pobox.com>

On 04/19/20 19:01, Cathryn Mataga wrote:
>  From the website.
> 
> "The March/April issue of /The AMSAT Journal/ will be produced on time. 
> However, it may only be possible to publish it in digital format. Stay 
> tuned for further updates."

Ah, that's good background.

I'm one of those curmudgeons that actually likes to read paper, so I'm 
not in favor of this course of action. An opt-in, sure, but not a 
wholesale change.

I spend far too much time looking at glowing pixels.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Mon Apr 20 00:48:33 2020
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:48:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
Message-ID: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@w5rkn.com>

I was very pleased when ARRL made electronic copies of QST available along
with downloadable copies of past issues. I could finally dispose of those
magazine boxes stores on the top closet shelf. Doing something similar for
The AMSAT Journal would be great. It even would allow color to be used in
the articles. I seldom need hard copies of many articles, so printing has
not been a problem. PDF would be my format preference. We would get the
Journal earlier and wouldn't have to store the old issues. I assume AMSAT
would make available an online availability of past issues.

Ron W5RKN

 


From hobergenix at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 04:33:22 2020
From: hobergenix at gmail.com (Mike Hoblinski)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:33:22 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only
Message-ID: <CAMpzqDFhAeDMrp2KxOn-OWA_teJz8V00kF-pRbG0JmoHpBqWog@mail.gmail.com>

The Amsat-UK membership offers a membership that has both mail and digital
opticion for their
journal version. I live in the USA and am an Amsat-NA member but I enjoy
reading other
satellite news and stories. I receive their digital copy as soon as its put
out. I can download it
and save it for future reading and reference. They do put a water mark or
reference on the first
page to identify the person and source of the download. Having the Amsat
Journal downloadable
might be of interest to other people around the world that would like to
see some of the fine articles in it. Maybe charge a fee per issue. Another
plus for members could be online storage of back
issues. I enjoy going back thru my stack of paper copies on a rainy day and
always seem to find something I have missed or now want to try. Some
members could opt for a digital only Journal
maybe saving some costs and paper.

Just my thoughts
Mike Hoblinski
N6IMF

From bkeating1954 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 05:05:27 2020
From: bkeating1954 at gmail.com (Bob Keating)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 22:05:27 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
Message-ID: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>

Has anybody found a way to? upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and 
have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants 
the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem 
able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!

Bob N6REK


From jeff30339 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 05:53:15 2020
From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 00:53:15 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
In-Reply-To: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>
References: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49BD4612-8FFE-41AC-A448-30D77CCEDCD7@gmail.com>

QRZ does not recognize SAT as a propagation mode. They have been asked many times over the years to add it but can?t/won?t do so. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Bob Keating via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Has anybody found a way to  upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
> 
> Bob N6REK
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kj9idave at charter.net  Mon Apr 20 12:32:47 2020
From: kj9idave at charter.net (David J. Schmocker)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 07:32:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <684b3f62-7847-6a94-5225-041cd37877ea@pobox.com>
References: <570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b.ref@arrl.net>
	<570dbe32-f71b-6e03-6ff4-32d84ef5d07b@arrl.net>
	<99a92c60-73ab-9e9f-76c8-0106afbb2e02@junglevision.com>
	<5393215e-945a-2454-a907-efd4ea940571@pobox.com>
	<dd0881bc-a2ee-b246-56f7-d6371fd8629c@junglevision.com>
	<684b3f62-7847-6a94-5225-041cd37877ea@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <f37d41bf-853f-69fb-4430-e13b455d6844@charter.net>

As a person diagnosed with tennis-elbow (over-use of tendons in forearm 
from computing mouse/keyboard movements), my Amsat Journal preference 
remains printed material.

I realize there are advantages to go digital/soft-copy, but an opt-out 
of printed default would serve those with various needs.

If a new printer is required, please consult Quad Graphics (Pewaukee, 
WI) with whom I have no financial connection (the disclaimer).

very 73,

Dave KJ9I


From kk5do at arrl.net  Mon Apr 20 13:04:41 2020
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:04:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
In-Reply-To: <49BD4612-8FFE-41AC-A448-30D77CCEDCD7@gmail.com>
References: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>
	<49BD4612-8FFE-41AC-A448-30D77CCEDCD7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d8551f66-c8d9-2221-d479-d2b2f37860c9@arrl.net>

I remember when QRZ was up for sale. Not sure if it was sold. If so, the 
original owner and author of the software is probably no longer involved 
and the new owner may not want to make changes or know how to make changes.

Just a guess.

73...bruce

On 4/20/2020 12:53 AM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> QRZ does not recognize SAT as a propagation mode. They have been asked many times over the years to add it but can?t/won?t do so.
>
> Jeff WE4B
>
>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Bob Keating via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Has anybody found a way to  upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
>>
>> Bob N6REK
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
               
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org

AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat



From carl at esteys.net  Mon Apr 20 17:19:03 2020
From: carl at esteys.net (Carl A Estey)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:19:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas
Message-ID: <2C30C950-21D7-4983-A0CB-C905B2958D30@esteys.net>

Recently I bought through AMSAT the LEO pack and assembled and installed it this weekend. The SWR on the 2-meter antenna is 1.4:1 from 144.1 to 146.1 with resistance of 58 ohms and 2.5:1 at 148 MHz.  The 70-cm antenna has the best SWR (3.0:1 and resistance of 25 ohms) at 442.6 MHZ.   Obviously neither is great.

How should I tune the antennas?  It appears that the only tuning possible is to adjust the shorting straps for distance from the inside edge of the shorting bar to there boom.  ShouldI I be able to achieve 1.1:1 on both antennas?  How should the coax be routed from the junction block?  I have the LMR-400 feedline zip tied along the boom to the cross bar and then around the rotors.  

What suggestions do you have?

The instructions particularly concerning the location of the 1/4-wave phasing line and the 1/2 wave balun were not very clear.  Does anyone  have any pictures or illustrations that show placement of the tasing line and balun?

73
Carl WA0CQG  


From ke4kol at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 20 17:49:29 2020
From: ke4kol at bellsouth.net (ke4kol)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:49:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
References: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>

Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
Thanks for any replies.
Jim, Ke4kol


From w7lrd at comcast.net  Mon Apr 20 18:35:55 2020
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:35:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
In-Reply-To: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <251832319.43710.1587407756308@connect.xfinity.com>

H 24 el loop, or RHCP 16 T helix
73 Bob W7LRD
> On April 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
> Thanks for any replies.
> Jim, Ke4kol
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Mon Apr 20 19:02:47 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:02:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas
In-Reply-To: <2C30C950-21D7-4983-A0CB-C905B2958D30@esteys.net>
References: <2C30C950-21D7-4983-A0CB-C905B2958D30@esteys.net>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnATgxi=DgdDJjCdCtjUK1PAULAtvXWkvsWJjt+ng59h6A@mail.gmail.com>

Carl,

I just went through this with my LEO-Pack that has been up for almost
8 years. I didn't have good test equipment available when I first put
it together. When I started having trouble recently, and tested it
properly, I discovered SWRs on 2m very much as you describe. On advice
from people on this list, I went back to the assembly instructions and
discovered that I had actually not put the antenna together properly
to begin with. The diagram(s) in the instructions are somewhat
confusing, and I would say, even a little misleading. Look at the
PHOTOGRAPH in the instructions very, very, VERY closely and make sure
that the various blocks and phasing lines are placed exactly as shown
in the photo. It's difficult to see, but if you study it closely and
duplicate what's in the photo I think you'll find you have better
results. I did. Now 1.1:1 at 145.9 MHz.

You probably want to be using LMR-400 UltraFlex around the rotators.
Regular LMR-400 is awfully stiff. Bring it along the antenna boom
straight back, then keep going straight back, along the same axis, for
about a foot past the mounting clamp. Then make a nice wide loop back
to cross boom to which the antenna is mounted and fasten the coax
there at a point near the end of the reflector. Don't make a sharp
bend or kink in the coax. Good luck. 73
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:15 PM Carl A Estey via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Recently I bought through AMSAT the LEO pack and assembled and installed it this weekend. The SWR on the 2-meter antenna is 1.4:1 from 144.1 to 146.1 with resistance of 58 ohms and 2.5:1 at 148 MHz.  The 70-cm antenna has the best SWR (3.0:1 and resistance of 25 ohms) at 442.6 MHZ.   Obviously neither is great.
>
> How should I tune the antennas?  It appears that the only tuning possible is to adjust the shorting straps for distance from the inside edge of the shorting bar to there boom.  ShouldI I be able to achieve 1.1:1 on both antennas?  How should the coax be routed from the junction block?  I have the LMR-400 feedline zip tied along the boom to the cross bar and then around the rotors.
>
> What suggestions do you have?
>
> The instructions particularly concerning the location of the 1/4-wave phasing line and the 1/2 wave balun were not very clear.  Does anyone  have any pictures or illustrations that show placement of the tasing line and balun?
>
> 73
> Carl WA0CQG
>
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From seb at wintek.com  Mon Apr 20 20:10:15 2020
From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen  E. Belter)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:10:15 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
In-Reply-To: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AA7D7A00-1B70-47D7-A1D4-73D775F91176@wintek.com>

Jim,

Do you already own the antenna?

If not, circularly polarized will usually work best for satellites.  

If you already own the antenna, then put the elements perpendicular to the mast, assuming the mast is metal.

If you have the antenna and the mounting mast or boom is fiberglass, then it makes only a minor difference as the satellite is likely tumbling while in orbit, oscillating between horizontal and vertical.

73, Steve N9IP
-- 
Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com
 

?On 4/20/20, 1:51 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of ke4kol via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

    Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
    Thanks for any replies.
    Jim, Ke4kol
    
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From on4cjq at telenet.be  Mon Apr 20 20:11:03 2020
From: on4cjq at telenet.be (on4cjq at telenet.be)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:11:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
In-Reply-To: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>
References: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <506602781.331737938.1587413463101.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>

You need to log a sat qso with propagation mode SAT, uplink freq at the satellite(some are using the transverters IF freq which is not allways the same) the sat-name, the mode...
If it's logged without the SAT propagation mode, it looks like a terrestrial contact, and that's a huge difference.
It's very important for award hunters.

So you need to use a good logging program. There would be much more matches in LOTW, EQSL etc. if people upload correctly.
More than 20% of received online qsl is rejected on my side due to incorrect logging.
Using here VQlog for years without any problems so far. I'm not aware of any other good sat-logging software, but of course there will be good ones too.

73's,

Jerry ON4CJQ

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Aan: "amsat-bb" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
Verzonden: Maandag 20 april 2020 07:05:27
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com

Has anybody found a way to? upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and 
have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants 
the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem 
able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!

Bob N6REK

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From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 20 20:56:44 2020
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:56:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
In-Reply-To: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
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I currently have a cheap 10 element antenna in a vertical configuration.  I wanted to also use it on our local D-Star repeater as well.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 10:50, ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
> Thanks for any replies.
> Jim, Ke4kol
> 
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From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 20 20:56:44 2020
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:56:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
In-Reply-To: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <73A3E9C3-8680-46C1-BD5D-76006E95D23B@yahoo.com>

I currently have a cheap 10 element antenna in a vertical configuration.  I wanted to also use it on our local D-Star repeater as well.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 10:50, ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
> Thanks for any replies.
> Jim, Ke4kol
> 
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From medicatlarge14 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 20:59:08 2020
From: medicatlarge14 at gmail.com (Ron Lewis)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:59:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
In-Reply-To: <506602781.331737938.1587413463101.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
References: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@gmail.com>
	<506602781.331737938.1587413463101.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <CAONiDGfyGETVLWNn=bJY6AYDOUkRXNO1hUFz+C99Tj5+fnXBdg@mail.gmail.com>

The problem I am having with QRZ.com is most people use other logging
software that migrates or populates into QRZ.com. However, if you log your
QSO's on QRZ.com, people who use LoTW don't like to upload QSO's on QRZ.com
and want only LoTW, even though the they have a QRZ.com account.



On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 16:16 Jerry via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> You need to log a sat qso with propagation mode SAT, uplink freq at the
> satellite(some are using the transverters IF freq which is not allways the
> same) the sat-name, the mode...
> If it's logged without the SAT propagation mode, it looks like a
> terrestrial contact, and that's a huge difference.
> It's very important for award hunters.
>
> So you need to use a good logging program. There would be much more
> matches in LOTW, EQSL etc. if people upload correctly.
> More than 20% of received online qsl is rejected on my side due to
> incorrect logging.
> Using here VQlog for years without any problems so far. I'm not aware of
> any other good sat-logging software, but of course there will be good ones
> too.
>
> 73's,
>
> Jerry ON4CJQ
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Aan: "amsat-bb" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
> Verzonden: Maandag 20 april 2020 07:05:27
> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
>
> Has anybody found a way to  upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and
> have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants
> the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem
> able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
>
> Bob N6REK
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 21:41:23 2020
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nick KE8AKW)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:41:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYuM0y_SwHd6YLVGOiYKWmKzVjmpQHNtxO5jba=vm1o4tA@mail.gmail.com>

Definitely recommend a directional antenna of some kind. Dont get hung up
on polarity (Horizontal, Circular) too much. I use a Directive Systems 45
Element Loop Yagi that works nicely. The two best brands if antennas for
23cm base station sat work that are popular today are Directive Systems
which makes loop yagis and Wimo which makes 23cm Helix antennas. Both work
very well. The most important factor I have found with this band is to keep
your horizon as clear as possible. Tree leafs or hills will heavily
attenuate your signal on this band more so then 70cm, so elevate your
antenna if possible that will help alot. You can get into the bird with as
little as 1w if your horizon is completely clear, but if you have big
obstructions like massive pine trees like I do, 10w or a bit more may be
needed. It's a very fun mode to operate and tinker on.

73 Nick KE8AKW

From aj9n at aol.com  Mon Apr 20 22:21:49 2020
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-20 22:00
	UTC
References: <1922552068.2518606.1587421309747.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1922552068.2518606.1587421309747@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-20 22:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Northern Virginia Schools Group, Woodbridge VA, Multi-point telebridge via AB1OC (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR 

Contact is go for: Thu 2020-04-30 13:35:00 UTC 62 deg

?

A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home.? (***)

?

?

Exp. 60 back on earth (***) 

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

Exp. 61 back on earth (***) 

Oleg Skripochka

Jessica Meir

?

ARISS thanks all 3 for a job well done! (***)

?

*************************************************

?

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for when you are not playing on your radio?? Check out these links:?? 

?

?

>From ARISS Vice Chair Oliver Amend DG6BCE: ESA Astronauts to offer inspiration during isolation in?????  #SpaceConnectsUs

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Astronauts_to_offer_inspiration_during_isolation_in_SpaceConnectsU

?

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.? By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.? Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy, Nature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World.? Check out:? https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard 

?

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.? Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem 

?

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? 

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? 

?

Postponed:

No new schools

?

Cancelled:

No new schools

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-04-20 22:00 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-03-21 00:00 UTC. 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States) 

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

********************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 

Sergey RV3DR with 133 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1387. 

Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? 

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1320. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. 

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 60 back on earth (***) 

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

Exp. 61 back on earth (***) 

Oleg Skripochka

Jessica Meir

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit 

Welcome aboard! 

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?



From CARL at ESTEYS.NET  Mon Apr 20 23:02:17 2020
From: CARL at ESTEYS.NET (Carl A Estey)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 18:02:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnATgxi=DgdDJjCdCtjUK1PAULAtvXWkvsWJjt+ng59h6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2C30C950-21D7-4983-A0CB-C905B2958D30@esteys.net>
	<CAHKCqnATgxi=DgdDJjCdCtjUK1PAULAtvXWkvsWJjt+ng59h6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <171FCC6D-BF9E-4235-9C59-5AEFE9185F26@ESTEYS.NET>

Thanks to all who replied so far - and I appreciate all ideas and suggestions.  

I failed to say that the cables are all ABR Industries premade 75? LMR-400 UltraFlex and the rotor cables were also premade by ABR.  Chuck and the folks at ABR did a great job of supporting me and have some ready-to-order short adapter cables that go a square Molex-similar European connector with 6-pins to 6 spade lugs that easily connect to the Yaesu G-5500 rotor control unit.  This made the rotor cable ?snap-and-play?.  

I quickly took some photos of the Leo pack to show cable routing, etc but AMSAT-BB rules forbid attachments, so if you would like pictures I can send them to your email.   

This brings me to how the LEO pack got on the roof - a friend, who knows nothing of radio but is great mechanically did the assembly and roof install.  He is Cambodian and I am sure I heard cursing about the M2 directions in at least TWO languages!

Please provide any input you may have as we will try very soon to rework as needed from the roof to save taking it all down to retune.  I suspect that the biggest issue will be to use the M2 dimensions for the driven element shorting block.

73
Carl WA0CQG



From w5acm at swbell.net  Tue Apr 21 04:09:22 2020
From: w5acm at swbell.net (Andy)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:09:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@w5rkn.com>
References: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@w5rkn.com>
Message-ID: <046601d61792$a40d7de0$ec2879a0$@swbell.net>

The Rice University newspaper, The Thresher, first published in 1916, has
gone electronic only, but perhaps not permanently. I enjoy receiving hard
copy, but as we change with the times, I could be convinced. PDF works
really well for many.

Andy W5ACM
AMSAT LM 1552 and previous BoD Member
ARRL LM
Chief Operator Rice Radio http://ktru.org

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ronald
Parsons via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:49 PM
To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?

I was very pleased when ARRL made electronic copies of QST available along
with downloadable copies of past issues. I could finally dispose of those
magazine boxes stores on the top closet shelf. Doing something similar for
The AMSAT Journal would be great. It even would allow color to be used in
the articles. I seldom need hard copies of many articles, so printing has
not been a problem. PDF would be my format preference. We would get the
Journal earlier and wouldn't have to store the old issues. I assume AMSAT
would make available an online availability of past issues.

Ron W5RKN

 

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From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net  Tue Apr 21 12:39:36 2020
From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:39:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <046601d61792$a40d7de0$ec2879a0$@swbell.net>
References: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@w5rkn.com>
	<046601d61792$a40d7de0$ec2879a0$@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <de8108c2-a69d-5ee7-844e-38b2cd4161f0@burlingtontelecom.net>

I would have no problem with a PDF.

I would like to see the format changed a bit. In most PDF's, they are 
simple copies of the print format. They are usually based on 2 or 3 
column portrait layouts. On a typical PC monitor, it forces you to 
scroll up/down to follow the text.

Check out what TAPR did with the Packet Status Register. The format is 
Landscape and fits easily on screen. Pretty easy to read.

https://tapr.wpengine.com/psr/psr144.pdf

Just a suggestion.

Mike

On 4/21/2020 12:09 AM, Andy via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> The Rice University newspaper, The Thresher, first published in 1916, has
> gone electronic only, but perhaps not permanently. I enjoy receiving hard
> copy, but as we change with the times, I could be convinced. PDF works
> really well for many.
> 
> Andy W5ACM
> AMSAT LM 1552 and previous BoD Member
> ARRL LM
> Chief Operator Rice Radio http://ktru.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ronald
> Parsons via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:49 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
> 
> I was very pleased when ARRL made electronic copies of QST available along
> with downloadable copies of past issues. I could finally dispose of those
> magazine boxes stores on the top closet shelf. Doing something similar for
> The AMSAT Journal would be great. It even would allow color to be used in
> the articles. I seldom need hard copies of many articles, so printing has
> not been a problem. PDF would be my format preference. We would get the
> Journal earlier and wouldn't have to store the old issues. I assume AMSAT
> would make available an online availability of past issues.
> 
> Ron W5RKN
> 
>   
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 

-- 

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

From kent at kfrazier.com  Tue Apr 21 16:45:40 2020
From: kent at kfrazier.com (Kent R Frazier)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 10:45:40 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <de8108c2-a69d-5ee7-844e-38b2cd4161f0@burlingtontelecom.net>
References: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@w5rkn.com>
	<046601d61792$a40d7de0$ec2879a0$@swbell.net>
	<de8108c2-a69d-5ee7-844e-38b2cd4161f0@burlingtontelecom.net>
Message-ID: <CAKmkdM0TdXgaSCu9K8kMEqAOTJExS8oN-ekomX4Mf7f1tEki+g@mail.gmail.com>

I'm fine with going to a PDF format and I like Mikes's idea of using the
landscape format as TAPR has done.


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 6:41 AM Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I would have no problem with a PDF.
>
> I would like to see the format changed a bit. In most PDF's, they are
> simple copies of the print format. They are usually based on 2 or 3
> column portrait layouts. On a typical PC monitor, it forces you to
> scroll up/down to follow the text.
>
> Check out what TAPR did with the Packet Status Register. The format is
> Landscape and fits easily on screen. Pretty easy to read.
>
> https://tapr.wpengine.com/psr/psr144.pdf
>
> Just a suggestion.
>
> Mike
>
> On 4/21/2020 12:09 AM, Andy via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > The Rice University newspaper, The Thresher, first published in 1916, has
> > gone electronic only, but perhaps not permanently. I enjoy receiving hard
> > copy, but as we change with the times, I could be convinced. PDF works
> > really well for many.
> >
> > Andy W5ACM
> > AMSAT LM 1552 and previous BoD Member
> > ARRL LM
> > Chief Operator Rice Radio http://ktru.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ronald
> > Parsons via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:49 PM
> > To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
> >
> > I was very pleased when ARRL made electronic copies of QST available
> along
> > with downloadable copies of past issues. I could finally dispose of those
> > magazine boxes stores on the top closet shelf. Doing something similar
> for
> > The AMSAT Journal would be great. It even would allow color to be used in
> > the articles. I seldom need hard copies of many articles, so printing has
> > not been a problem. PDF would be my format preference. We would get the
> > Journal earlier and wouldn't have to store the old issues. I assume AMSAT
> > would make available an online availability of past issues.
> >
> > Ron W5RKN
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all
> > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> > views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
> "A closed mouth gathers no feet"
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From kent at kfrazier.com  Tue Apr 21 17:39:52 2020
From: kent at kfrazier.com (Kent R Frazier)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:39:52 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Missing AMSAT Journal
Message-ID: <CAKmkdM04W27f2=E4yif3BZS3CxNSa-vmd9Bx1KxN10=segPaiA@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to be missing my AMSAT Journal Volume 24, Number 6
(November/December 2019).
I checked the web site and I didn't any back issues. If not a copyright
violation, would anyone be willing to scan the article "For Beginners
Amateur Radio Satellite Primer II" and email it to me?

Thanks,

Kent

-- 
Kent R Frazier
Amateur Radio License K5KNT
AMSAT Life Member #2380, ARRL Member
Alt. email: k5knt at amsat.org or k5knt at arrl.net

From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Tue Apr 21 17:47:21 2020
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 14:47:21 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tt
Message-ID: <CAAy53m4cAB53BCSgMWSQmrtByBf64AkThVARoqS_nYskd=Jc=w@mail.gmail.com>

Tem
-- 
*PY5LF *
*Luciano Fabricio*
*www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*

From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Apr 21 19:43:54 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:43:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another effect of COVID-19
Message-ID: <9a3cb3fb2efaefbc048a74d7c882414d@etczone.com>


?With everybody at home these days every day is like a weekend on the FM satellites. Good luck if you've got an HT and an Arrow.
Steve AI9IN


From royldean at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 23:57:09 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:57:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another effect of COVID-19
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sHU=WT5GEa2rUYxe6ykOttv2FVDEYXy7JaMag+sOyaww@mail.gmail.com>

>
>  With everybody at home these days every day is like a weekend on the FM
> satellites. Good luck if you've got an HT and an Arrow.
> Steve AI9IN


I've been having surprisingly good luck on SO-50 during the day.

--Roy
K3RLD

From bwilkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 00:32:39 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:32:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another effect of COVID-19
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2sHU=WT5GEa2rUYxe6ykOttv2FVDEYXy7JaMag+sOyaww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2sHU=WT5GEa2rUYxe6ykOttv2FVDEYXy7JaMag+sOyaww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq33u6pmJ1oikzxSYg6YMAHkQbOq0EY7TNipBc0oBsLfn-Q@mail.gmail.com>

SO-50 is medium difficulty IMHO

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:58 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> >
> >  With everybody at home these days every day is like a weekend on the FM
> > satellites. Good luck if you've got an HT and an Arrow.
> > Steve AI9IN
>
>
> I've been having surprisingly good luck on SO-50 during the day.
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
Brian Wilkins
KO4AQF

From rich at ourowndomain.com  Wed Apr 22 10:49:24 2020
From: rich at ourowndomain.com (Rich Gopstein)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 06:49:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
In-Reply-To: <de8108c2-a69d-5ee7-844e-38b2cd4161f0@burlingtontelecom.net>
References: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@w5rkn.com>
	<046601d61792$a40d7de0$ec2879a0$@swbell.net>
	<de8108c2-a69d-5ee7-844e-38b2cd4161f0@burlingtontelecom.net>
Message-ID: <CANsNeaqAq5jyFoSr-S-P26Wem8aZL4AMi2AeGAyXh3CK9G51pA@mail.gmail.com>

I read journals on a variety of electronic devices. Because of the range of
screen sizes and resolutions, you really need a format that can dynamically
adapt to the size and resolution of whatever the user has.

I'd recommend not using PDF at all, but going to a native web page that can
adapt to whatever screens people are using.

There is nothing more frustrating than trying to read a PDF on a mobile
phone...

Rich, KD2CQ

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 8:42 AM Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I would have no problem with a PDF.
>
> I would like to see the format changed a bit. In most PDF's, they are
> simple copies of the print format. They are usually based on 2 or 3
> column portrait layouts. On a typical PC monitor, it forces you to
> scroll up/down to follow the text.
>
> Check out what TAPR did with the Packet Status Register. The format is
> Landscape and fits easily on screen. Pretty easy to read.
>
> https://tapr.wpengine.com/psr/psr144.pdf
>
> Just a suggestion.
>
> Mike
>
> On 4/21/2020 12:09 AM, Andy via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > The Rice University newspaper, The Thresher, first published in 1916, has
> > gone electronic only, but perhaps not permanently. I enjoy receiving hard
> > copy, but as we change with the times, I could be convinced. PDF works
> > really well for many.
> >
> > Andy W5ACM
> > AMSAT LM 1552 and previous BoD Member
> > ARRL LM
> > Chief Operator Rice Radio http://ktru.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ronald
> > Parsons via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:49 PM
> > To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
> >
> > I was very pleased when ARRL made electronic copies of QST available
> along
> > with downloadable copies of past issues. I could finally dispose of those
> > magazine boxes stores on the top closet shelf. Doing something similar
> for
> > The AMSAT Journal would be great. It even would allow color to be used in
> > the articles. I seldom need hard copies of many articles, so printing has
> > not been a problem. PDF would be my format preference. We would get the
> > Journal earlier and wouldn't have to store the old issues. I assume AMSAT
> > would make available an online availability of past issues.
> >
> > Ron W5RKN
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all
> > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> > views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
> "A closed mouth gathers no feet"
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From aj9n at aol.com  Wed Apr 22 18:01:11 2020
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:01:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-22 17:30
	UTC
References: <1423386162.705661.1587578471601.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1423386162.705661.1587578471601@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-22 17:30 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Northern Virginia Schools Group, Woodbridge VA, Multi-point telebridge via AB1OC 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR 

Contact is go for: Thu 2020-04-30 13:35:00 UTC 62 deg

?

A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home.

?

?

*************************************************

?

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for when you are not playing on your radio?? Check out these links:?? 

?

?

>From ARISS Vice Chair Oliver Amend DG6BCE: ESA Astronauts to offer inspiration during isolation in?????  #SpaceConnectsUs

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Astronauts_to_offer_inspiration_during_isolation_in_SpaceConnectsU

?

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.? By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.? Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy, Nature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World.? Check out: ?https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard 

?

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.? Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem 

?

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? 

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? 

?

Postponed:

Salem-South Lyon District Library, South Lyon, MI, telebridge via TBD (***)

?

Cancelled:

YOTA Region 2 Camp, Voice of America (VOA) Museum, West Chester, OH, telebridge via TBD or direct via W8Y (***)

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-04-22 17:30 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-03-21 00:00 UTC. 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States) 

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

********************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 

Sergey RV3DR with 133 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1387. 

Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? 

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1320. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. 

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit 

Welcome aboard! 

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?



From w7lrd at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 20:12:59 2020
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L band
Message-ID: <1150713824.79573.1587586380299@connect.xfinity.com>

I had AO92 all to myself.  I sounded pretty good hihi
73 Bob W7LRD


From saguaroastro at cox.net  Wed Apr 22 20:21:40 2020
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (saguaroastro)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:21:40 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L band
In-Reply-To: <1150713824.79573.1587586380299@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <20200422202145.97B1D88C1@lansing182.amsat.org>

Couldn"t get away from work...maybe next week.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 4/22/20  13:13  (GMT-07:00) To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L band I had AO92 all to myself.? I sounded pretty good hihi73 Bob W7LRD_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Wed Apr 22 22:01:26 2020
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:01:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-92 L band
Message-ID: <013401d618f1$92067510$b6135f30$@w5rkn.com>

Everything conspired against L-Band for me today (UTC). Family, other
commitments, bedtime, .

A belated 73 to all the regulars.

Ron W5RKN

 


From bkeating1954 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 14:42:50 2020
From: bkeating1954 at gmail.com (Bob Keating)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:42:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
In-Reply-To: <CAONiDGfyGETVLWNn=bJY6AYDOUkRXNO1hUFz+C99Tj5+fnXBdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAONiDGfyGETVLWNn=bJY6AYDOUkRXNO1hUFz+C99Tj5+fnXBdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B92FEB20-5A02-46C5-952E-6D4E7C033302@gmail.com>

QRZ does not have a SAT propagation mode. I seem to recall that I have had some successful confirmations by simply entering FM mode and just the uplink frequency. But then this means one would have to log separately to LoTW via TQSL in order to get credit for a satellite qso. 
Bob N6REK 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 13:59, Ron Lewis <medicatlarge14 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The problem I am having with QRZ.com is most people use other logging software that migrates or populates into QRZ.com. However, if you log your QSO's on QRZ.com, people who use LoTW don't like to upload QSO's on QRZ.com and want only LoTW, even though the they have a QRZ.com account. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 16:16 Jerry via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> You need to log a sat qso with propagation mode SAT, uplink freq at the satellite(some are using the transverters IF freq which is not allways the same) the sat-name, the mode...
>> If it's logged without the SAT propagation mode, it looks like a terrestrial contact, and that's a huge difference.
>> It's very important for award hunters.
>> 
>> So you need to use a good logging program. There would be much more matches in LOTW, EQSL etc. if people upload correctly.
>> More than 20% of received online qsl is rejected on my side due to incorrect logging.
>> Using here VQlog for years without any problems so far. I'm not aware of any other good sat-logging software, but of course there will be good ones too.
>> 
>> 73's,
>> 
>> Jerry ON4CJQ
>> 
>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Aan: "amsat-bb" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>> Verzonden: Maandag 20 april 2020 07:05:27
>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
>> 
>> Has anybody found a way to  upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and 
>> have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants 
>> the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem 
>> able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
>> 
>> Bob N6REK
>> 
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From bkeating1954 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 14:48:51 2020
From: bkeating1954 at gmail.com (Bob Keating)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:48:51 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
In-Reply-To: <CAONiDGfyGETVLWNn=bJY6AYDOUkRXNO1hUFz+C99Tj5+fnXBdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAONiDGfyGETVLWNn=bJY6AYDOUkRXNO1hUFz+C99Tj5+fnXBdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B7257EB3-36E1-43BD-B8E2-F0FAA6C8A59C@gmail.com>

Oops! Sorry Jerry, just saw your email. Didn?t mean to be redundant. It sure would be nice if the powers that be at QRZ would take us satellite operators into consideration. I?m wondering if one is working split frequency on HF the same problem occurs?
Bob N6REK 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 13:59, Ron Lewis <medicatlarge14 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The problem I am having with QRZ.com is most people use other logging software that migrates or populates into QRZ.com. However, if you log your QSO's on QRZ.com, people who use LoTW don't like to upload QSO's on QRZ.com and want only LoTW, even though the they have a QRZ.com account. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 16:16 Jerry via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> You need to log a sat qso with propagation mode SAT, uplink freq at the satellite(some are using the transverters IF freq which is not allways the same) the sat-name, the mode...
>> If it's logged without the SAT propagation mode, it looks like a terrestrial contact, and that's a huge difference.
>> It's very important for award hunters.
>> 
>> So you need to use a good logging program. There would be much more matches in LOTW, EQSL etc. if people upload correctly.
>> More than 20% of received online qsl is rejected on my side due to incorrect logging.
>> Using here VQlog for years without any problems so far. I'm not aware of any other good sat-logging software, but of course there will be good ones too.
>> 
>> 73's,
>> 
>> Jerry ON4CJQ
>> 
>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Aan: "amsat-bb" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>> Verzonden: Maandag 20 april 2020 07:05:27
>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
>> 
>> Has anybody found a way to  upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and 
>> have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants 
>> the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem 
>> able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
>> 
>> Bob N6REK
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From corlissbs at aol.com  Thu Apr 23 15:18:00 2020
From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:18:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another Effect of Covid 19
References: <2100698001.340837.1587655080914.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2100698001.340837.1587655080914@mail.yahoo.com>

< With everybody at home these days every day is like a weekend on the FM satellites. Good luck if you've got an HT and an Arrow. >

It has been difficult, but I keep trying and sometimes succeeding. The discouraging thing is the open mics on 91 and 92, which I am beginning to think is a deliberate act by some disgruntled ham that can't get into the bird. What doesn't make sense is that if the station is powerful enough to disrupt, it would be powerful enough to get in.? Brad KC9UQR

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Apr 23 17:03:56 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:03:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another Effect of Covid 19
In-Reply-To: <2100698001.340837.1587655080914@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2100698001.340837.1587655080914.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2100698001.340837.1587655080914@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e82aa996b9429c6a5ac1391dc67bdb6e@etczone.com>


I have also experienced that. For a person doing that I would guess that disruption is the whole point. They are not interested in a QSO.
Steve AI9IN
?
----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
Date: 04/23/20 11:38
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another Effect of Covid 19

< With everybody at home these days every day is like a weekend on the FM satellites. Good luck if you've got an HT and an Arrow. >

It has been difficult, but I keep trying and sometimes succeeding. The discouraging thing is the open mics on 91 and 92, which I am beginning to think is a deliberate act by some disgruntled ham that can't get into the bird. What doesn't make sense is that if the station is powerful enough to disrupt, it would be powerful enough to get in.? Brad KC9UQR
_______________________________________________




From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 22:28:57 2020
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Ham Radio Essentials)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 17:28:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
Message-ID: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just hook
that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?

73 de W0AAE

From ka3hsw at att.net  Thu Apr 23 22:58:22 2020
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 17:58:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AC0D92096FDA4866BF5F9A19B9ABA9B3@RadioRoomPC>

Absolutely!  That's actually how I started out on the RS birds...  Had a set
of Drake B-line twins for HF, and got hold of the matching SC-2 receive
converter and TC-2 transverter. Had a wire dipole in the attic for the 10
and 15 meter downlinks, and built a 2-meter turnstile for the uplink.  Not
sure if the 7300 has an output for a transverter, but with the power turned
down (and attenuators, if needed), go nuts! Not being full-duplex will
present some challenges (you could always use the 7300 for the uplink and an
RTL-SDR for receive...)

George, KA3HSW



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ham Radio
Essentials via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:29 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?

Hello,

I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just hook
that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?

73 de W0AAE



From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Thu Apr 23 22:59:53 2020
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:59:53 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Transverters are a very viable option for producing RF on VHF/UHF and up.   The trade off is usually a bit more work on integration and operation.  For example it might take a bit of futzing to get a smallish (100mW) signal out of the '7300 for input to the transverter.

As far as operation, you may need to do some mental arithmetic when calculating your transmit frequency, although many radios can be programed such that their display does that for you.

de KM1P

________________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Ham Radio Essentials via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:28 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?

Hello,

I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just hook
that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?

73 de W0AAE
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From wageners at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 23:29:55 2020
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:29:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHBkYVWkt61xj8UVmicEq-mL9QQnz2c1=RVQXgbCO43d7A@mail.gmail.com>

Here you go:

https://shop.kuhne-electronic.com/kuhne/en/shop/amateur-radio/new/Transverterinterface+for+IC7300+KIT/?card=1820

has worked for me.

73, Stefan VE4SW

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:04 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Transverters are a very viable option for producing RF on VHF/UHF and up.
>  The trade off is usually a bit more work on integration and operation.
> For example it might take a bit of futzing to get a smallish (100mW) signal
> out of the '7300 for input to the transverter.
>
> As far as operation, you may need to do some mental arithmetic when
> calculating your transmit frequency, although many radios can be programed
> such that their display does that for you.
>
> de KM1P
>
> ________________________________________
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Ham Radio
> Essentials via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:28 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
>
> Hello,
>
> I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
> there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
> transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just hook
> that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?
>
> 73 de W0AAE
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 23:38:29 2020
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Ham Radio Essentials)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:38:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <CAKu8kHBkYVWkt61xj8UVmicEq-mL9QQnz2c1=RVQXgbCO43d7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAKu8kHBkYVWkt61xj8UVmicEq-mL9QQnz2c1=RVQXgbCO43d7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+-4feM_XH88dZi4jJO32EsJXjm2rZrh1JxkA=BWCD3ef=m7Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everybody for the information!  I am thinking of using a web SDR for
the receive(may work a little), but maybe I'll just go semi-duplex for
right now, or maybe get an SDR radio for the receive side.
Thanks again!

73 de W0AAE

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Stefan Wagener via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Here you go:
>
>
> https://shop.kuhne-electronic.com/kuhne/en/shop/amateur-radio/new/Transverterinterface+for+IC7300+KIT/?card=1820
>
> has worked for me.
>
> 73, Stefan VE4SW
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:04 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > Transverters are a very viable option for producing RF on VHF/UHF and up.
> >  The trade off is usually a bit more work on integration and operation.
> > For example it might take a bit of futzing to get a smallish (100mW)
> signal
> > out of the '7300 for input to the transverter.
> >
> > As far as operation, you may need to do some mental arithmetic when
> > calculating your transmit frequency, although many radios can be
> programed
> > such that their display does that for you.
> >
> > de KM1P
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Ham Radio
> > Essentials via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:28 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
> > there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
> > transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just
> hook
> > that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?
> >
> > 73 de W0AAE
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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From va3ase at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 02:29:30 2020
From: va3ase at gmail.com (VA3ASE)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:29:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
Message-ID: <CACgQwJ_xwdu9aYGtQZvyPAg-qz4zmzO4M-uVfvmGTtLzBi41gQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've been learning to operate my station using SatPC32. I'm finding I need
to constantly adjust my uplink calibration in the CAT Tuning menu or I
start to lose myself. On the most recent pass of XW-2A it required
adjustment of about 150 Hz over the duration. This seems like a lot to me -
I know its normal to make fine adjustments at the beginning of a pass but
thought I could then leave it. Is this normal or is something amiss?

If anything I suspect it is related to keps - I update these manually by
going to Satellites and clicking Update Keps. Then selecting the nasa.all
file and Download. Have I missed something?

Station details: Icom IC-9700 transceiver (firmware 1.21), SatPC32 version
12.8d, Windows 10. Crossed yagis on a G-5500 rotator, K3NG based interface.

Thanks in advance and 73,
Alex VA3ASE

From k6vug at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 24 14:53:12 2020
From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:53:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <CACgQwJ_xwdu9aYGtQZvyPAg-qz4zmzO4M-uVfvmGTtLzBi41gQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACgQwJ_xwdu9aYGtQZvyPAg-qz4zmzO4M-uVfvmGTtLzBi41gQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1017427224.134677.1587739992744@mail.yahoo.com>

 
It happens with both Sat{C32 as well as HRD Satellite and gets really bad 
on higher passes. 

73!Umesh, k6vug



    On Thursday, April 23, 2020, 7:30:27 PM PDT, VA3ASE via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 I've been learning to operate my station using SatPC32. I'm finding I need
to constantly adjust my uplink calibration in the CAT Tuning menu or I
start to lose myself. On the most recent pass of XW-2A it required
adjustment of about 150 Hz over the duration. This seems like a lot to me -
I know its normal to make fine adjustments at the beginning of a pass but
thought I could then leave it. Is this normal or is something amiss?

If anything I suspect it is related to keps - I update these manually by
going to Satellites and clicking Update Keps. Then selecting the nasa.all
file and Download. Have I missed something?

Station details: Icom IC-9700 transceiver (firmware 1.21), SatPC32 version
12.8d, Windows 10. Crossed yagis on a G-5500 rotator, K3NG based interface.

Thanks in advance and 73,
Alex VA3ASE
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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 15:13:44 2020
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:13:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <1017427224.134677.1587739992744@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CACgQwJ_xwdu9aYGtQZvyPAg-qz4zmzO4M-uVfvmGTtLzBi41gQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1017427224.134677.1587739992744@mail.yahoo.com>
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Have you checked your system clock?  Try https://time.is which is very
accurate.  Some computer clocks can drift badly, and this can cause the need
for constant tweaking, even with very stable satellites.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
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<-- via AMSAT-BB
<Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:53 AM
<To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; VA3ASE <va3ase at gmail.com>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
<
<
<It happens with both Sat{C32 as well as HRD Satellite and gets really bad
<on higher passes.
<
<73!Umesh, k6vug
<
<
<
<    On Thursday, April 23, 2020, 7:30:27 PM PDT, VA3ASE via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-
<bb at amsat.org> wrote:
<
< I've been learning to operate my station using SatPC32. I'm finding I need
<to constantly adjust my uplink calibration in the CAT Tuning menu or I
<start to lose myself. On the most recent pass of XW-2A it required
<adjustment of about 150 Hz over the duration. This seems like a lot to me -
<I know its normal to make fine adjustments at the beginning of a pass but
<thought I could then leave it. Is this normal or is something amiss?
<
<If anything I suspect it is related to keps - I update these manually by
<going to Satellites and clicking Update Keps. Then selecting the nasa.all
<file and Download. Have I missed something?
<
<Station details: Icom IC-9700 transceiver (firmware 1.21), SatPC32 version
<12.8d, Windows 10. Crossed yagis on a G-5500 rotator, K3NG based interface.
<
<Thanks in advance and 73,
<Alex VA3ASE
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From propgrinder at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 16:17:48 2020
From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:17:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur Radio
	Operator
Message-ID: <CAKoB7OrEJ7yHQ+DH7kO1mBf-ded7PDqrxyXEfzfD7LxoMv6PKQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s-military-satellite-found-by-amateur-radio-operator

From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 16:53:36 2020
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Ham Radio Essentials)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:53:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feM_XH88dZi4jJO32EsJXjm2rZrh1JxkA=BWCD3ef=m7Ng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAKu8kHBkYVWkt61xj8UVmicEq-mL9QQnz2c1=RVQXgbCO43d7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+-4feM_XH88dZi4jJO32EsJXjm2rZrh1JxkA=BWCD3ef=m7Ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Just one more question:  Has anybody had any experience with a cheap SDR
desensing on FM or SSB when they transmit?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:38 PM Ham Radio Essentials <arrl.kvan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks everybody for the information!  I am thinking of using a web SDR
> for the receive(may work a little), but maybe I'll just go semi-duplex for
> right now, or maybe get an SDR radio for the receive side.
> Thanks again!
>
> 73 de W0AAE
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Stefan Wagener via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Here you go:
>>
>>
>> https://shop.kuhne-electronic.com/kuhne/en/shop/amateur-radio/new/Transverterinterface+for+IC7300+KIT/?card=1820
>>
>> has worked for me.
>>
>> 73, Stefan VE4SW
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:04 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Transverters are a very viable option for producing RF on VHF/UHF and
>> up.
>> >  The trade off is usually a bit more work on integration and operation.
>> > For example it might take a bit of futzing to get a smallish (100mW)
>> signal
>> > out of the '7300 for input to the transverter.
>> >
>> > As far as operation, you may need to do some mental arithmetic when
>> > calculating your transmit frequency, although many radios can be
>> programed
>> > such that their display does that for you.
>> >
>> > de KM1P
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Ham Radio
>> > Essentials via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:28 PM
>> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
>> > there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
>> > transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just
>> hook
>> > that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?
>> >
>> > 73 de W0AAE
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Apr 24 16:57:47 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:57:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur
	Radio	Operator
In-Reply-To: <CAKoB7OrEJ7yHQ+DH7kO1mBf-ded7PDqrxyXEfzfD7LxoMv6PKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrEJ7yHQ+DH7kO1mBf-ded7PDqrxyXEfzfD7LxoMv6PKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89447703-CF8D-47A9-B660-8F2170D295F8@pobox.com>

On April 24, 2020 11:17:48 AM CDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s-military-satellite-found-by-amateur-radio-operator
>

Following the rabbit hole down, I think the article might be incorrect about Transit 5B-5's power source. 

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/21144/is-transit-5b-5-a-k-a-oscar-2-really-still-kind-of-active

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From va3mw at portcredit.net  Fri Apr 24 17:00:12 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:00:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <000201d61a4a$f318f710$d94ae530$@gmail.com>
References: <CACgQwJ_xwdu9aYGtQZvyPAg-qz4zmzO4M-uVfvmGTtLzBi41gQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1017427224.134677.1587739992744@mail.yahoo.com>
	<000201d61a4a$f318f710$d94ae530$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts45Pna_1yY9rFEDF305rPL3c-kQ3aZe34efr2cOGqSYNw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alex

Can you describe a bit more on how you do your calibration?

It works for me, but I had to do it for each satellite and then hit
"Change/Store Data File", the hit the button under Store "Uplink
Calibration".

It mostly works but I might still have to touch it up from time to time.

Mike va3mw


On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Alan via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Have you checked your system clock?  Try https://time.is which is very
> accurate.  Some computer clocks can drift badly, and this can cause the
> need
> for constant tweaking, even with very stable satellites.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug-
> <-- via AMSAT-BB
> <Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:53 AM
> <To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; VA3ASE <va3ase at gmail.com>
> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
> <
> <
> <It happens with both Sat{C32 as well as HRD Satellite and gets really bad
> <on higher passes.
> <
> <73!Umesh, k6vug
> <
> <
> <
> <    On Thursday, April 23, 2020, 7:30:27 PM PDT, VA3ASE via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-
> <bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> <
> < I've been learning to operate my station using SatPC32. I'm finding I
> need
> <to constantly adjust my uplink calibration in the CAT Tuning menu or I
> <start to lose myself. On the most recent pass of XW-2A it required
> <adjustment of about 150 Hz over the duration. This seems like a lot to me
> -
> <I know its normal to make fine adjustments at the beginning of a pass but
> <thought I could then leave it. Is this normal or is something amiss?
> <
> <If anything I suspect it is related to keps - I update these manually by
> <going to Satellites and clicking Update Keps. Then selecting the nasa.all
> <file and Download. Have I missed something?
> <
> <Station details: Icom IC-9700 transceiver (firmware 1.21), SatPC32 version
> <12.8d, Windows 10. Crossed yagis on a G-5500 rotator, K3NG based
> interface.
> <
> <Thanks in advance and 73,
> <Alex VA3ASE
> <_______________________________________________
> <Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> <expressed
> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-
> <NA.
> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> <program!
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Fri Apr 24 17:07:58 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:07:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <CA+-4feOi66Srtp-uyLaoLB4o6apatt0Bm-=WaVcPKHyHk4i-MA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAKu8kHBkYVWkt61xj8UVmicEq-mL9QQnz2c1=RVQXgbCO43d7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+-4feM_XH88dZi4jJO32EsJXjm2rZrh1JxkA=BWCD3ef=m7Ng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+-4feOi66Srtp-uyLaoLB4o6apatt0Bm-=WaVcPKHyHk4i-MA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnB3NLHVGB+xiQ9Foz01oDeHQDh7ixXwE9QPjdLLpa=k9g@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, but I've also had experience with expensive transceivers and
transverters desensing on FM and SSB when I transmit.
It's a common issue, especially if the uplink is on VHF and the
downlink is on UHF (3rd harmonic).
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:55 AM Ham Radio Essentials via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Just one more question:  Has anybody had any experience with a cheap SDR
> desensing on FM or SSB when they transmit?
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:38 PM Ham Radio Essentials <arrl.kvan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks everybody for the information!  I am thinking of using a web SDR
> > for the receive(may work a little), but maybe I'll just go semi-duplex for
> > right now, or maybe get an SDR radio for the receive side.
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > 73 de W0AAE
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Stefan Wagener via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Here you go:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://shop.kuhne-electronic.com/kuhne/en/shop/amateur-radio/new/Transverterinterface+for+IC7300+KIT/?card=1820
> >>
> >> has worked for me.
> >>
> >> 73, Stefan VE4SW
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:04 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Transverters are a very viable option for producing RF on VHF/UHF and
> >> up.
> >> >  The trade off is usually a bit more work on integration and operation.
> >> > For example it might take a bit of futzing to get a smallish (100mW)
> >> signal
> >> > out of the '7300 for input to the transverter.
> >> >
> >> > As far as operation, you may need to do some mental arithmetic when
> >> > calculating your transmit frequency, although many radios can be
> >> programed
> >> > such that their display does that for you.
> >> >
> >> > de KM1P
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Ham Radio
> >> > Essentials via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:28 PM
> >> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >> > Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am wondering if
> >> > there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
> >> > transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I just
> >> hook
> >> > that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?
> >> >
> >> > 73 de W0AAE
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions
> >> > expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
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> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions
> >> > expressed
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From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Fri Apr 24 17:20:22 2020
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:20:22 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By
	Amateur	Radio	Operator
In-Reply-To: <89447703-CF8D-47A9-B660-8F2170D295F8@pobox.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrEJ7yHQ+DH7kO1mBf-ded7PDqrxyXEfzfD7LxoMv6PKQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<89447703-CF8D-47A9-B660-8F2170D295F8@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <BLAPR22MB2115D4CE68336FC71E5AC96D87D00@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Scott actually used an eclipse timing and corresponding loss of carrier to prove to himself that he was detecting that LES-5.

See https://skyriddles.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/the-recovery-of-les-5/

de KM1P

________________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:57 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur      Radio   Operator

On April 24, 2020 11:17:48 AM CDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s-military-satellite-found-by-amateur-radio-operator
>

Following the rabbit hole down, I think the article might be incorrect about Transit 5B-5's power source.

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/21144/is-transit-5b-5-a-k-a-oscar-2-really-still-kind-of-active

--- Zach
N0ZGO
_______________________________________________
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From va3mw at portcredit.net  Fri Apr 24 17:45:23 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:45:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur
 Radio Operator
In-Reply-To: <BLAPR22MB2115D4CE68336FC71E5AC96D87D00@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrEJ7yHQ+DH7kO1mBf-ded7PDqrxyXEfzfD7LxoMv6PKQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<89447703-CF8D-47A9-B660-8F2170D295F8@pobox.com>
	<BLAPR22MB2115D4CE68336FC71E5AC96D87D00@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts4WsM6DFwOT8Stporbqe7=HGOX5ja2LJvdR2jpzFxPTSQ@mail.gmail.com>

That looks like VE7TIL.

Mike va3mw


On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:34 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Scott actually used an eclipse timing and corresponding loss of carrier to
> prove to himself that he was detecting that LES-5.
>
> See https://skyriddles.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/the-recovery-of-les-5/
>
> de KM1P
>
> ________________________________________
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Zach Metzinger
> via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:57 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By
> Amateur      Radio   Operator
>
> On April 24, 2020 11:17:48 AM CDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s-military-satellite-found-by-amateur-radio-operator
> >
>
> Following the rabbit hole down, I think the article might be incorrect
> about Transit 5B-5's power source.
>
>
> https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/21144/is-transit-5b-5-a-k-a-oscar-2-really-still-kind-of-active
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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>

From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Fri Apr 24 17:45:44 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:45:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur
 Radio Operator
In-Reply-To: <BLAPR22MB2115D4CE68336FC71E5AC96D87D00@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAKoB7OrEJ7yHQ+DH7kO1mBf-ded7PDqrxyXEfzfD7LxoMv6PKQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<89447703-CF8D-47A9-B660-8F2170D295F8@pobox.com>
	<BLAPR22MB2115D4CE68336FC71E5AC96D87D00@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnC48MvFm3nOv0TbXkEN20AL7-oamLazbRkdCPw7q3MQXg@mail.gmail.com>

I think you may be confusing the satellites mentioned in the article.
The article claims that Transit 5B-5 was nuclear powered, which
matches the NASA record. But Scott claims to have identified LES-5 by
eclipse times. LES-5 is a completely different bird than Transit 5B-5.
Scott found Transit 5B-5 a couple years ago, and he found LES-5 just
last month.
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:33 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Scott actually used an eclipse timing and corresponding loss of carrier to prove to himself that he was detecting that LES-5.
>
> See https://skyriddles.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/the-recovery-of-les-5/
>
> de KM1P
>
> ________________________________________
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:57 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur      Radio   Operator
>
> On April 24, 2020 11:17:48 AM CDT, Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s-military-satellite-found-by-amateur-radio-operator
> >
>
> Following the rabbit hole down, I think the article might be incorrect about Transit 5B-5's power source.
>
> https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/21144/is-transit-5b-5-a-k-a-oscar-2-really-still-kind-of-active
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Fri Apr 24 18:24:47 2020
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:24:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Let's take some pictures.
Message-ID: <013501d61a65$a2a66040$e7f320c0$@mindspring.com>

The command team has had a few requests for camera mode on AO-92 over the
last few weeks, and it's been a while, so let's take some pictures next
week.

 

Next Tuesday morning, April 28th, we'll attempt to command the camera on at
approximately 1440Z and 1612Z. We'll also try the 1750Z pass. If we can't
command on the 1750Z pass, we'll find a suitable pass later in the week for
the west coast.

 

Take a look at
https://www.amsat.org/foxtelem-software-for-windows-mac-linux/ for a guide
on how to set up FoxTelem, and https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4
for near-live images as we go. Remember, the more stations submitting
telemetry during the event, the better the chance of complete images!

 

73, Drew KO4MA

AMSAT VP Operations

 


From arrl.kvan at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 22:26:04 2020
From: arrl.kvan at gmail.com (Ham Radio Essentials)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:26:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
In-Reply-To: <CAHKCqnB3NLHVGB+xiQ9Foz01oDeHQDh7ixXwE9QPjdLLpa=k9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+-4feOArAm40WqtRcnpooyTRUQotdLDxHOsHGmyQguXkuN=qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLAPR22MB21153C0D04B7B24EB35BE40587D30@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAKu8kHBkYVWkt61xj8UVmicEq-mL9QQnz2c1=RVQXgbCO43d7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+-4feM_XH88dZi4jJO32EsJXjm2rZrh1JxkA=BWCD3ef=m7Ng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+-4feOi66Srtp-uyLaoLB4o6apatt0Bm-=WaVcPKHyHk4i-MA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHKCqnB3NLHVGB+xiQ9Foz01oDeHQDh7ixXwE9QPjdLLpa=k9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+-4feM8zgaR8tJHcMqK5N5KwXwCyXu5pK_NJU-KfNDanOV6Uw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all!

73 de W0AAE

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark D. Johns <mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu>
wrote:

> Yes, but I've also had experience with expensive transceivers and
> transverters desensing on FM and SSB when I transmit.
> It's a common issue, especially if the uplink is on VHF and the
> downlink is on UHF (3rd harmonic).
> --
> Mark D. Johns, K?JM
> AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
> Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
> -----------------------------------------------
> "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
>    you would stay out and your dog would go in."
>     ---Mark Twain
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:55 AM Ham Radio Essentials via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Just one more question:  Has anybody had any experience with a cheap SDR
> > desensing on FM or SSB when they transmit?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:38 PM Ham Radio Essentials <
> arrl.kvan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks everybody for the information!  I am thinking of using a web SDR
> > > for the receive(may work a little), but maybe I'll just go semi-duplex
> for
> > > right now, or maybe get an SDR radio for the receive side.
> > > Thanks again!
> > >
> > > 73 de W0AAE
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Stefan Wagener via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Here you go:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> https://shop.kuhne-electronic.com/kuhne/en/shop/amateur-radio/new/Transverterinterface+for+IC7300+KIT/?card=1820
> > >>
> > >> has worked for me.
> > >>
> > >> 73, Stefan VE4SW
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:04 PM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Transverters are a very viable option for producing RF on VHF/UHF
> and
> > >> up.
> > >> >  The trade off is usually a bit more work on integration and
> operation.
> > >> > For example it might take a bit of futzing to get a smallish (100mW)
> > >> signal
> > >> > out of the '7300 for input to the transverter.
> > >> >
> > >> > As far as operation, you may need to do some mental arithmetic when
> > >> > calculating your transmit frequency, although many radios can be
> > >> programed
> > >> > such that their display does that for you.
> > >> >
> > >> > de KM1P
> > >> >
> > >> > ________________________________________
> > >> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Ham Radio
> > >> > Essentials via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:28 PM
> > >> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > >> > Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF/UHF Transverter?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been doing FM satellites for quite some time, and I am
> wondering if
> > >> > there is a cheap way to get into linear satellites.  Could I use a
> > >> > transverter for VHF and UHF?  I have an IC-7300 for HF.  Could I
> just
> > >> hook
> > >> > that up to a transverter and it would put out RF on VHF and UHF?
> > >> >
> > >> > 73 de W0AAE
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > >> > expressed
> > >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> > >> > AMSAT-NA.
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> > >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > >> > expressed
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From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sat Apr 25 03:51:30 2020
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 22:51:30 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
References: <01bb01d61ab4$ce87a580$6b96f080$.ref@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <01bb01d61ab4$ce87a580$6b96f080$@verizon.net>

The clock is important to be as accurate as possible.  Also make sure that
you are using as accurate a latitude and longitude setting in Observer
setup.  Even just using two decimal places  after the Lat/Lon value may not
be adequate especially on high passes even if the clock is accurate.  These
two settings will make all the difference.

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
EM12ms

______________________

------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:13:44 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca at gmail.com>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink Calibration in SatPC32
Message-ID: <000201d61a4a$f318f710$d94ae530$@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Have you checked your system clock?  Try https://time.is which is very
accurate.  Some computer clocks can drift badly, and this can cause the need
for constant tweaking, even with very stable satellites.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA




From ki7unj at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 00:01:46 2020
From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 17:01:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-117 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAPFr_UnnF_UaEhy7BKBv7t_OXKRs7yn7FT2-U_413QLt5_jN5Q@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-117

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS
publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on
the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who
share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun-
icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans

In this edition:

* March/April 2020 Edition of Apogee View Posted
* Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur Radio Operator
* Let's Take Some Pictures
* Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution
* The W4AMI Award and How to Obtain One
* New OSCAR T-Shirt Available from AMSAT Zazzle Store
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* ARISS News
* Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-117.01
ANS-117 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 117.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE 2020 April 26
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-117.01

March/April 2020 Edition of Apogee View Posted

The March/April 2020 edition of Apogee View, a comprehensive update
on AMSAT's activities from AMSAT President Clayton Coleman, W5PFG,
has been posted to the AMSAT website.

https://www.amsat.org/apogeeview/

[ANS thanks AMSAT the above information]

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Long-Lost U.S. Military Satellite Found By Amateur Radio Operator

Scott Tilley, VE7TIL, has made the news once again for tracking down
yet another "zombie" satellite. Scott was the subject of a report
broadcast on National Public Radio on Friday, April 24.

This time, he managed to identify signals from LES-5, an experimental
military UHF communications satellite built by the Massachusetts Insti-
tute of Technology's Lincoln Laboratory and launched in 1967. Even
though the satellite was supposed to shut down in 1972, it's still go-
ing. As long as the solar panels are in the sun, the satellite's radio
continues to operate.

In 2018, Tilly found a signal from a NASA probe called IMAGE that the
space agency had lost track of in 2005. With Tilley's help, NASA was
able to reestablish contact. He has rediscovered several other long-
forgotten birds, including Transit 5B-5, a nuclear-powered U.S. Navy
navigation satellite launched in 1965.

Scott announced his findings on LES-5 through his Twitter account,
@coastal8049, on March 24. The full NPR story may be found at:
https://n.pr/2x64aAZ.

[ANS thanks NPR.org for the above information]


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         Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office
    is closed until further notice. For details, please visit
  https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/

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Let's Take Some Pictures

The command team has had a few requests for camera mode on AO-92 over
the last few weeks, and it?s been a while, so let?s take some pictures
 next week.

Next Tuesday morning, April 28th, we?ll attempt to command the camera
on at approximately 1440Z and 1612Z. We?ll also try the 1750Z pass.
If we can?t command on the 1750Z pass, we?ll find a suitable pass
later in the week for the west coast.

Take a look at
https://www.amsat.org/foxtelem-software-for-windows-mac-linux/
for a guide on how to set up FoxTelem, and
https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4 for near-live images
as we go. Remember, the more stations submitting telemetry during
the event, the better the chance of complete images!

[ANS thanks Andrew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT VP Operations,
for the above information]

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           Purchase AMSAT Gear on our Zazzle storefront.
          25% of the purchase price of each product goes
            towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space
              https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear

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Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution

Last week's AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletin (ANS-110.01) contained
a news item entitled "Receiving SMOG-P and ATL-1 Nano Satellites With
an RTL-SDR" from Zoltan Doczi, HA7DCD.

Please note that on December 19, 2019 AMSAT designated SMOG-P as
Magyar-OSCAR 105 (MO-105) and ATL-1 as Magyar-OSCAR 106 (MO-106).

In the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution, the TLEs for these two Hungarian
satellites are shown as follows:

MO-105 is NORAD Cat ID 44832 (SMOG-P)
MO-106 is NORAD Cat ID 44830 (ATL-1)

[ANS thanks Ray Hoad, WA5QGD, AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager, for the
 above information]

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The W4AMI Award and How to Obtain One

Just a little history, Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI, was a very prolific
operator and in his honor this certificate was created and the first
certificate was issued to him on June 27, 1994. He has since become an
SK and his local club has taken over his call sign. The award was
originally the W4AMI Satellite Operator Achievement Award. The local
club asked me not to use their call sign for the award. I changed the
award to The Robert W. Barbee, Jr. W4AMI Satellite Operator Achievement
Award. And here we are today, finally having issued over 100
certificates and over 30 of the 5,000 certificates.

This award is for making 1,000 contacts with any station any time. You
can say hello to your friend on every satellite on every pass every day
and count those contacts. That being said, any contact you log counts.
The award has endorsements for making 1,000 more contacts up to 4,000.
Another 1,000 contacts will earn a special W4AMI 5,000 certificate.

To submit for the award, please email me an extract from your log either
in Microsoft Excel XLS(X) format or ADI(F) format. Either will work just
fine. Then wait for me to get back to you notifying you to go online and
make your payment. I need nothing from LoTW, confirmed contacts are not
an issue, this award is for simply making a contact.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat-robert-w-barbee-jr-w4ami-award/

[ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards,
for the above information]

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     Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows,
    and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through
           AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards
                  Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
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New OSCAR T-Shirt Available from AMSAT Zazzle Store

Thanks to an post on Twitter from Michael Styne, K2MTS, AMSAT is
pleased to offer a new t-shirt on the AMSAT Zazzle Store. This t-
shirt design is available in variants suitable for printing on either
dark or lightly colored shirts.

The shirt features a representation of AMSAT-OSCAR 7 in orbit with the
tagline "OSCAR - Adventure and Excitement in Space Age Communication"
This image was used in advertisements for the 1978 ARRL book "Getting
to Know OSCAR." The ARRL has granted AMSAT permission to republish
this classic image as a t-shirt.

Get yours today! 25% of the purchase price goes towards Keeping
Amateur Radio in Space.

https://www.zazzle.com/oscar_t_shirt_dark-235643945481104970

https://www.zazzle.com/oscar_t_shirt_light-235449229998854129

[ANS thanks Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, AMSAT Executive VP, for the above
information]

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

ZW8, BRAZIL (Special Event). Operators Freddy/PY3YD, Joselito/PS8BR,
Fernando/PS8CW, Raimundo/PS8DX, Jose/PS8ET, Milton/PS8HF, Nelson/PS8NF,
Pirajah/PS8RF, Dalton/PS8TV and Andre/PT9AL are using the special event
callsign ZW8THANKS as a tribute to health care professionals fighting
COVID-19. Activity will be on all bands and modes including the satel-
lites. QSL via direct, eQSL or LoTW.
(ANS thanks the Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1461 for the above information)

Due to COVID-19, there are no other announced satellite operations at
this moment. Any roving activity of which AMSAT becomes aware will be
posted at:
https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/

Until then, stay safe and keep making contacts from home.

Please submit any additions or corrections to ke4al (at) amsat.org

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT VP-User Services for the
above information]

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    AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
    radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
            be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit.

   Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

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ARISS News

ARISS lets students worldwide experience the excitement of talking
directly with crew members of the International Space Station, inspir-
ing them to pursue interests in careers in science, technology,
engineering and math, and engaging them with radio science technology
through amateur radio.

Northern Virginia Schools Group, Woodbridge VA, Multi-point telebridge
contact via AB1OC is scheduled for Thursday, April 30. The ISS call-
sign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS, and the scheduled astronaut
is Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR. The contact is go for 13:35:00 UTC at a max-
imum elevation of 62 degrees. Stations in the eastern U.S. should be
able to listen in on this contact on 145.80 MHz FM. A multi-point tele-
bridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from
their own home.

The ARISS team continues to test and firm up a plan to transform ARISS
contacts and how ARISS interacts with youth and education institutions.
ARISS will provide distance learning with every student and staff mem-
ber in their own homes (even quarantined).

[ANS thanks ARISS for the above information]

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Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events

Want to see AMSAT in action or learn more about amateur radio in space?
AMSAT Ambassadors provide presentations, demonstrate communicating
through amateur satellites, and host information tables at club meet-
ings, hamfests, conventions, maker faires, and other events.

Due to COVID-19, many hamfest and events around the United States have
been canceled or postponed.  While we make every effort to ensure the
information contained below is correct, there may be some that we
missed. We wish all of you safekeeping and hope to be at a hamfest
near you soon.

Current schedule:
    June 12-13, 2020, Ham-Com, Plano, TX
    September 26, 2020 Arrowhead Radio Amateurs Club Hamfest, Superior, WI


The following events scheduled to have an AMSAT presence have been
CANCELED:
    May 2, 2020, Cochise Amateur Radio Association Hamfest, Sierra
              Vista, AZ
    May 8-9, 2020 Prescott Hamfest, Prescott, AZ
    May 15-17, Hamvention, Xenia, OH

A copy of the AMSAT hamfest brochure is available for download from:
https://bit.ly/2ygVFmV  This color brochure is designed to be printed
double-sided and folded into a tri-fold handout.

To include your upcoming AMSAT presentation and/or demonstration,
please send an email to ambassadors (at) amsat (dot) org.

[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT VP-User Services for the
above information]

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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ Diwata-2 (PO-101) has been active daily to provide emergency access
  during Covid-19 pandemic. Check https://twitter.com/Diwata2PH
  For Daily activation schedule
  (ANS thanks DIWATA-2 Ground Team for the above information)

+ On this 50th anniversary of the flight of Apollo 13, the BBC has pro-
  duced a documentary video series, "13 Minutes to the Moon," along
  with associated web resources and podcasts. The documentary can be
  accessed worldwide at: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2
  (ANS thanks Peter Green, G0ABI, for the above information)

+ Happy 30th anniversary, Hubble! The Hubble Space Telescope was laun-
  ched into LEO on April 24th, 1990 aboard Space Shuttle Discovery
  STS-31 launch video). Featuring a 2.4 m mirror and optics that are
  smooth to 10 nanometers (but were in the wrong shape until corrected
  by the first of five servicing missions in 1993), Hubble takes images
  of the Universe with never-before-seen quality. The telescope may
  work into the 2040s, hopefully being joined by its more-advanced sib-
  ling, the JWST, next year. Take a moment to browse some of Hubble?s
  most stunning snapshots of the Universe at:
  https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/
  (ANS thanks The Orbital Index for the above information)

+ Astronauts onboard the International Space Station have gotten a
  first good look at the controversial Starlink satellites. On April
  13th, they photographed a train of 16 Starlinks cutting through
  Southern Lights over the Antarctic. Learn more about their unique
  photo + corresponding ground-based sightings on Spaceweather.com
  (ANS thanks Southgate ARC for the above information)

+ SpaceX launched 60 more spacecraft Wednesday to join the Starlink
  fleet. The successful launch Wednesday marked the 84th flight of a
  Falcon 9 rocket since June 2010. That makes SpaceX?s Falcon 9 the
  most-flown orbital-class U.S. launcher currently in operation, ex-
  ceeding the 83 missions performed by the Atlas 5 rocket built by
  rival United Launch Alliance. With Wednesday?s launch, SpaceX has
  delivered 422 Starlink satellites to space. The company is seeking
  regulatory approval to fly 4,400 of the satellites in the project's
  first phase. SpaceX?s next Starlink launch after Wednesday could
  happen as soon as early May on another Falcon 9 rocket mission. That
  will be followed by SpaceX?s first launch with astronauts on-board ?
  scheduled for May 27 ? to begin a test flight of the company?s Crew
  Dragon spaceship to the International Space Station.
  (ANS thanks spaceflightnow.com for the above information)

+ A series of unusually severe spring storms parading across the south-
  eastern USA had residents taking shelter this week from hail and tor-
  nadoes. High above the maelstrom, sprites were dancing. Sprites are
  a form of electricity in powerful storm clouds. While regular light-
  ning lances down, sprites leap up. They can reach all the way to the
  edge of space 90 km or more above Earth?s surface.
  (ANS thanks Southgate ARC and spaceweatherarchive.com for the above
  information)

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/EX

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73 and Remember to help keep amateur radio in space,
This week's ANS Editor, Casey Tucker, KI7UNJ

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From m-arai at a.email.ne.jp  Sun Apr 26 02:46:44 2020
From: m-arai at a.email.ne.jp (Masahiro Arai)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:46:44 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Quetzal-1 deploy from ISS 28th Apr
Message-ID: <11f12918-b2c2-b486-2664-d0edc7c53ace@a.email.ne.jp>

JAXA announced Guatemalan 1st satellite Quetzal-1 deploy from ISS
1520z 28th April.

The live will be on YouTube JAXA channel at 1445-1540z.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M39SjJJsEc

Quetzal-1 is 1U CubeSat. She operates on amateur band.
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=653


This is J-SSOD#13 mission. G-Satellite is also J-SSOD#13 mission.
There is no her deployment info.

G-Satellite is 3U CubeSat. She does not operate amateur band, but very
interesting satellite. G-Satellite deploys miniature figures of Mobile
Suite GUNDAM and Char ZAKU in orbit and sends messages from space
about the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games.
It might be postponed until the Games.

https://tokyo2020.org/en/news/g-satellite-completed
https://tokyo2020.org/en/news/tokyo-2020-g-satellite-carried-to-the-international-space-station


Masa  JN1GKZ     Tokyo Japan


From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Sun Apr 26 15:27:14 2020
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:27:14 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT-2 SSTV
Message-ID: <CAAy53m4_gxjU7yZ_Vts9k6n-0ZVA9gvaFRiMECa6rKL7OOMiFw@mail.gmail.com>

Images of PSAT-2 in a one minute video.

https://youtu.be/goaTrVtWH3o

-- 
*PY5LF *
*Luciano Fabricio*
*www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*

From cbusch at nc.rr.com  Sat Apr 25 21:18:42 2020
From: cbusch at nc.rr.com (Chris Busch)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 17:18:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB tracker and Sat32PC
Message-ID: <0358B165-705B-4E2A-A371-FB0274AE2323@nc.rr.com>

Gentlemen, just getting back into Satellite work - used to work AO-13 regularly with a pair of KLM twists, GASFET preamps, Yeasu 726R and Mirage amps plus a KCT tracker. Now trying to get my newly built LVB tracker to work with SAT32PC

I?ve read the post and response in the archives from 2018 concerning interfacing the LVB tracker to Sat32PC which was a big help (thank you!), but my issue is that while Sat32PC can now control the azimuth via GS-232 commands over a serial port, the tracker is ignoring elevation commands. I have calibrated the (90 degree) elevation rotor multiple times and stored to EPROM, but no joy to any of the GS-232 elevation commands, even when I issue them directly from a Putty ap via the com port. I can read back the calibration offset values and the rotor position, but none of the commands to the rotor to change elevation work. I know the elevation rotor interface is working because I can move the rotor with the LVB push buttons. 

Although I just built this interface (from an AMSAT UK kit), the design is >15 years old and emails to the designer have gone unanswered. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I?m out of ideas.

Thanks and 73
Chris  K4CKB





From ki6wj at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 26 17:31:45 2020
From: ki6wj at yahoo.com (James Brown)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:31:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] observer not centered sat 32
References: <436054973.531140.1587922305397.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <436054973.531140.1587922305397@mail.yahoo.com>

Running ver 8d sat 32. Can not get observer (my qth)to center on map. Think this happened after a windows update.Any ideas?
Jim KI6WJ

From e.krome at comcast.net  Sun Apr 26 17:48:28 2020
From: e.krome at comcast.net (EDWARD KROME)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:48:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB tracker and Sat32PC
In-Reply-To: <0358B165-705B-4E2A-A371-FB0274AE2323@nc.rr.com>
References: <0358B165-705B-4E2A-A371-FB0274AE2323@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <790325762.1338058.1587923309124@connect.xfinity.com>

Did you find the AZ-only or AZ-EL checkboxes under Setup in ServerSDX?

Ed K9EK

> On April 25, 2020 at 5:18 PM Chris Busch via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Gentlemen, just getting back into Satellite work - used to work AO-13 regularly with a pair of KLM twists, GASFET preamps, Yeasu 726R and Mirage amps plus a KCT tracker. Now trying to get my newly built LVB tracker to work with SAT32PC
> 
> I?ve read the post and response in the archives from 2018 concerning interfacing the LVB tracker to Sat32PC which was a big help (thank you!), but my issue is that while Sat32PC can now control the azimuth via GS-232 commands over a serial port, the tracker is ignoring elevation commands. I have calibrated the (90 degree) elevation rotor multiple times and stored to EPROM, but no joy to any of the GS-232 elevation commands, even when I issue them directly from a Putty ap via the com port. I can read back the calibration offset values and the rotor position, but none of the commands to the rotor to change elevation work. I know the elevation rotor interface is working because I can move the rotor with the LVB push buttons. 
> 
> Although I just built this interface (from an AMSAT UK kit), the design is >15 years old and emails to the designer have gone unanswered. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I?m out of ideas.
> 
> Thanks and 73
> Chris  K4CKB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Sun Apr 26 21:36:04 2020
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:36:04 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Status
Message-ID: <74FBC4DF-E38D-4256-B2D3-7E431883709C@g4dpz.me.uk>

Hi,

End of day and we have a working server in a closed environment.

All UI elements are working but we have to test upload. Will do that in the morning and if all goes well we should be collecting data again by midday UTC

As you can imagine we have moved quite a lot of data but it went smoothly.

Once again thank you for you patience.

73

Dave, G4DPZ

From kd4iz at frawg.org  Sun Apr 26 22:03:07 2020
From: kd4iz at frawg.org (kd4iz at frawg.org)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:03:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
Message-ID: <038a01d61c16$7823f910$686beb30$@frawg.org>

Out of curiosity - what is the status of this bird? It shows up in the NASA
orbital info, but not in the Amateur in the SatPC32 tracking selections. 

The German Orbital Systems site does not elaborate on some of the details.
particularly if one wished to configure a D-Star rig and try it. With
IC-9700's proliferating I would expect some noise if it is accessible.

 

Any info or help would be appreciated.

 

Jack Spitznagel - KD4IZ

Trustee for NR3DT

The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group

 

 


From sjdevience at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 12:55:51 2020
From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:55:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
Message-ID: <CAMPfQQD4qBy7HOEC29rqjwVsWf7f=yoPfQY4gjibqqHtmPsajQ@mail.gmail.com>

Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92
during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass. I
checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC in
New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone and
would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92
considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign and
discussions about sea vessels :)

-Stephen, N8URE

From aj9n at aol.com  Mon Apr 27 15:55:43 2020
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:55:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-27 16:00
	UTC
References: <879790038.648775.1588002943728.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <879790038.648775.1588002943728@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-27 16:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Northern Virginia Schools Group, Woodbridge VA, Multi-point telebridge via AB1OC 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR 

Contact is go for: Thu 2020-04-30 13:35:00 UTC 62 deg

?

Watch for live stream at: https://youtu.be/Cu8I9ose4Vo?(***)

?

A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home.

?

?

*************************************************

?

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for when you are not playing on your radio?? Check out these links:?? 

?

?

>From ARISS Vice Chair Oliver Amend DG6BCE: ESA Astronauts to offer inspiration during isolation in?????  #SpaceConnectsUs

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Astronauts_to_offer_inspiration_during_isolation_in_SpaceConnectsU

?

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.? By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.? Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy, Nature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World.? Check out:? https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard 

?

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.? Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem 

?

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? 

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? 

?

Postponed:

No additional schools (***)

?

Cancelled:

No additional schools (***)

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-04-27 16:00 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-03-21 00:00 UTC. 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States) 

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

********************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

*******************************************************************************

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 

Sergey RV3DR with 133 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1387. 

Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? 

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1320. 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. 

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit 

Welcome aboard! 

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?



From royldean at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 16:37:11 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:37:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] K4KDR featured on new Scott Manley Video
Message-ID: <CADGPg2uRhp66npfp-GK6kKvXLve0oLCHApB=yj9ijVPO0o7vRw@mail.gmail.com>

Scott (Chapman) is featured in Scott Manley's new video about the Iranian
Noor satellite.

https://youtu.be/SPTz7Ig9RQE

Nice work, K4KDR!

--Roy
K3RLD

From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Apr 27 16:51:31 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:51:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 QRM
Message-ID: <8c350ff71b2352d77e2b53bf7cd0622a@etczone.com>


I heard a couple of folks call me and I tried to answer but the deliberate QRM on AO-92 may have prevented you from hearing me. We'll just keep trying until the annoying person gets tired and moves on.
?I did get W4DTA in the log.

Steve AI9IN
Em79ji
Oldenburg IN
?


From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 27 20:58:37 2020
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:58:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact for Northern Virginia Schools
 Group - Woodbridge, VA
References: <960733959.791013.1588021117120.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <960733959.791013.1588021117120@mail.yahoo.com>


AnInternational Space Station school contact has been planned withparticipants at NorthernVirginia Schools Group, Woodbridge VA on30 April. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 13:35 UTC.It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutesbefore this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a Multi-Point Telebridgebetween NA1SS and AB1OC. Amulti-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on thetelebridge from their own home. Thecontact should be audible over the state of New Hampshire andadjacent areas. U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in onthe 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted inEnglish. Watchfor live stream at: https://youtu.be/Cu8I9ose4Vo





Story:

Weare students from Northern Virginia. We are ages 5-10 years old andwe are in K-5th grade, in Woodbridge VA, just outside of DC. Ourschool year was ended on March 13th and we have been home learningmany things using distance learning methods. We have been learninghow to get along in small spaces with little contact with the rest ofour community. We are learning quickly how it must feel to be on theISS! 





Participantswill ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

1.What does the sun look like from outer space?

2.How comfortable is it to sleep in space?

3.What is one thing you want to eat when you get back to earth?

4.I've heard that stars are red, yellow and blue. Can you see thosecolors in space when you look at the stars?

5.Besides your family, what do you miss most while being in space?

6.What are your thoughts on our Covid-19 situation right now? Does theEarth look differently over the last 3

 monthsnow that many people are inside and not creating pollution?

7.How often do you get to go out of the ISS? Have you been on anyspace walks?

8.Who makes the rocket that takes you to the ISS?

9.What does it feel like to float all the time?

10.Do you use flashlights on space walks?

11.How do you exercise in space?

12.How do you get out for space walks safely without the air from theISS coming out into space? How does it

 feelto walk in space?

13.What do you wear in the space station?

14.How did it feel when you first got to space?

15.How is space different from Earth? 

16.What do you study in school to become an astronaut?

17.What do you like the most about being in space?

18.Were you nervous when you launched into space?

19.How do you communicate with loved ones while you are in space?





PLEASECHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

VisitARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on theInternational Space Station (ARISS).

Toreceive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status





Nextplanned event(s):

TBD





AboutARISS

AmateurRadio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperativeventure of international amateur radio societies and the spaceagencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In theUnited States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation(AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Laband National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primarygoal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology,engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduledcontacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS andstudents in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radiocontacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn aboutspace, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information,see www.ariss.org.

Thankyou & 73,
David ? AA4KN



















From bwilkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 02:05:15 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:05:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAMPfQQD4qBy7HOEC29rqjwVsWf7f=yoPfQY4gjibqqHtmPsajQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMPfQQD4qBy7HOEC29rqjwVsWf7f=yoPfQY4gjibqqHtmPsajQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq306XWRL+nWykcxhddxaoiZz=PFyZ7Y3670NzOfjwMQcqA@mail.gmail.com>

I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from Florida
on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort this one
out

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92
> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass. I
> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC in
> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone and
> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92
> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign and
> discussions about sea vessels :)
>
> -Stephen, N8URE
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Tue Apr 28 02:15:03 2020
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:15:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
References: <019b01d61d02$d41feb10$7c5fc130$.ref@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <019b01d61d02$d41feb10$7c5fc130$@verizon.net>

Do be aware that the repeater that might be causing the interference may
actually not be running 67Hz tone.  The Fox satellites do need to hear 67 Hz
to wake the transponder, but after that it is a bent pipe.  Thus, as long as
it got woke up, it would pass whatever FM it hears.  

 

Like the apparent DMR interference we dealt with several months ago, it's
folks who think that it is "Clear air" down there and do their own thing.  

 

Hopefully someone with a scanner can locate and politely pass along some
education.

 

 

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP

EM12ms

_______

 

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:55:51 -0400

From: Stephen DeVience <sjdevience at gmail.com <mailto:sjdevience at gmail.com> >

To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org> 

Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92

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Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92

during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass. I

checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC in

New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone and

would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92

considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign and

discussions about sea vessels :)

 

-Stephen, N8URE

 

 

 


From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 02:32:04 2020
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:32:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAO_Eq306XWRL+nWykcxhddxaoiZz=PFyZ7Y3670NzOfjwMQcqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq306XWRL+nWykcxhddxaoiZz=PFyZ7Y3670NzOfjwMQcqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A4494A46-0053-426B-9E3E-E232D7C69C9F@gmail.com>

AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no magic wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is located in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint. Continued monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process has been used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and forward any call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them. Also, recordings help. 

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from Florida
> on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort this one
> out
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92
>> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass. I
>> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC in
>> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone and
>> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92
>> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign and
>> discussions about sea vessels :)
>> 
>> -Stephen, N8URE
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> -- 
> Brian Wilkins
> KO4AQF
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From bwilkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 02:36:54 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:36:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <A4494A46-0053-426B-9E3E-E232D7C69C9F@gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq306XWRL+nWykcxhddxaoiZz=PFyZ7Y3670NzOfjwMQcqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<A4494A46-0053-426B-9E3E-E232D7C69C9F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>

That?s what I meant. Thanks Mike. Already been communicating with
Glasbrenner

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:32 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:

> AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no magic
> wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is located
> in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint. Continued
> monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process has been
> used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and forward any
> call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them. Also,
> recordings help.
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from
> Florida
> > on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort this one
> > out
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92
> >> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass.
> I
> >> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC
> in
> >> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone
> and
> >> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92
> >> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign
> and
> >> discussions about sea vessels :)
> >>
> >> -Stephen, N8URE
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> > --
> > Brian Wilkins
> > KO4AQF
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
-- 
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KO4AQF

From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 02:42:37 2020
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:42:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>

Cool, it?s challenging because the length of passes aren?t much longer than the interval to ID. It?s frustrating but perseverance pays off. 

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:37, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> That?s what I meant. Thanks Mike. Already been communicating with Glasbrenner 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:32 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no magic wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is located in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint. Continued monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process has been used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and forward any call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them. Also, recordings help. 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID/VE6LID
>> 
>> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> > ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from Florida
>> > on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort this one
>> > out
>> > 
>> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
>> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92
>> >> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass. I
>> >> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC in
>> >> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone and
>> >> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92
>> >> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign and
>> >> discussions about sea vessels :)
>> >> 
>> >> -Stephen, N8URE
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> >> expressed
>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> >> AMSAT-NA.
>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >> 
>> > -- 
>> > Brian Wilkins
>> > KO4AQF
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> -- 
> Brian Wilkins
> KO4AQF

From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Tue Apr 28 03:05:40 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 03:05:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>

A couple of weeks ago we identified 2 stations overheard on AO-92?with apparent Boston area QTH (Waltham and Harvard)?but still no indication of a repeater.AMSAT has a recording of the pass.
NateN5LEX


On Monday, April 27, 2020, 10:44 PM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

Cool, it?s challenging because the length of passes aren?t much longer than the interval to ID. It?s frustrating but perseverance pays off. 

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:37, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> That?s what I meant. Thanks Mike. Already been communicating with Glasbrenner 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:32 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no magic wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is located in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint. Continued monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process has been used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and forward any call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them. Also, recordings help. 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID/VE6LID
>> 
>> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> > ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from Florida
>> > on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort this one
>> > out
>> > 
>> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
>> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on AO-92
>> >> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00 pass. I
>> >> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and W1RJC in
>> >> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz tone and
>> >> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for AO-92
>> >> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH callsign and
>> >> discussions about sea vessels :)
>> >> 
>> >> -Stephen, N8URE
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> >> expressed
>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> >> AMSAT-NA.
>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >> 
>> > -- 
>> > Brian Wilkins
>> > KO4AQF
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> -- 
> Brian Wilkins
> KO4AQF
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From sjdevience at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 12:47:57 2020
From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:47:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
	<1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>

I listened to that Satnogs recording again, and I hear a single beep
courtesy tone between transmissions from each person, so I think it's a
repeater. It has some points where the repeater conversation stops and then
appears to bring up the satellite again, so I would think it needs to match
the tone. Maybe someone here can better explain how the Fox tone squelch
works, for example how long it stays on after hearing a tone.

The repeater that I suspect has echolink, so maybe I can get on it during a
pass and get a recording.

-Stephen, N8URE

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:05 PM nathanjwhite <nathanjwhite at frontier.com>
wrote:

> A couple of weeks ago we identified 2 stations overheard on AO-92 with
> apparent Boston area QTH (Waltham and Harvard) but still no indication of a
> repeater.
> AMSAT has a recording of the pass.
>
> Nate
> N5LEX
>
> On Monday, April 27, 2020, 10:44 PM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Cool, it?s challenging because the length of passes aren?t much longer
> than the interval to ID. It?s frustrating but perseverance pays off.
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:37, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > That?s what I meant. Thanks Mike. Already been communicating with
> Glasbrenner
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:32 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no magic
> wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is located
> in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint. Continued
> monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process has been
> used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and forward any
> call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them. Also,
> recordings help.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Mike Diehl
> >> W8LID/VE6LID
> >>
> >> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from
> Florida
> >> > on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort this
> one
> >> > out
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
> >> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on
> AO-92
> >> >> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00
> pass. I
> >> >> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and
> W1RJC in
> >> >> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz
> tone and
> >> >> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for
> AO-92
> >> >> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH
> callsign and
> >> >> discussions about sea vessels :)
> >> >>
> >> >> -Stephen, N8URE
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> >> expressed
> >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> >> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> >> Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> >>
> >> > --
> >> > Brian Wilkins
> >> > KO4AQF
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> > Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > --
> > Brian Wilkins
> > KO4AQF
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

From bwilkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 13:03:18 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:03:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
	<1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq30+kuGAxxiPUt1wozVotYjBb7qZSTfMFqDnKaWF9UDf9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe it?s a coincidence however at one point I was chatting with some guys
earlier this year on EchoLink in the Northeast and there was suggestion on
connecting his EchoLink setup to AMSAT. I had forgotten about it until you
mentioned it. I don?t have any hard evidence it was done so I am not going
to out anyone here

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:48 AM Stephen DeVience <sjdevience at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I listened to that Satnogs recording again, and I hear a single beep
> courtesy tone between transmissions from each person, so I think it's a
> repeater. It has some points where the repeater conversation stops and then
> appears to bring up the satellite again, so I would think it needs to match
> the tone. Maybe someone here can better explain how the Fox tone squelch
> works, for example how long it stays on after hearing a tone.
>
> The repeater that I suspect has echolink, so maybe I can get on it during
> a pass and get a recording.
>
> -Stephen, N8URE
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:05 PM nathanjwhite <nathanjwhite at frontier.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A couple of weeks ago we identified 2 stations overheard on AO-92 with
>> apparent Boston area QTH (Waltham and Harvard) but still no indication of a
>> repeater.
>> AMSAT has a recording of the pass.
>>
>> Nate
>> N5LEX
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, 10:44 PM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> Cool, it?s challenging because the length of passes aren?t much longer
>> than the interval to ID. It?s frustrating but perseverance pays off.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID/VE6LID
>>
>> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:37, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?
>> > That?s what I meant. Thanks Mike. Already been communicating with
>> Glasbrenner
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:32 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no
>> magic wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is
>> located in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint.
>> Continued monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process
>> has been used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and
>> forward any call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them.
>> Also, recordings help.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Mike Diehl
>> >> W8LID/VE6LID
>> >>
>> >> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from
>> Florida
>> >> > on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort
>> this one
>> >> > out
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
>> >> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on
>> AO-92
>> >> >> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00
>> pass. I
>> >> >> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and
>> W1RJC in
>> >> >> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz
>> tone and
>> >> >> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for
>> AO-92
>> >> >> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH
>> callsign and
>> >> >> discussions about sea vessels :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Stephen, N8URE
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> >> >> expressed
>> >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of
>> >> >> AMSAT-NA.
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>> >> > --
>> >> > Brian Wilkins
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>> available
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From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc  Tue Apr 28 13:36:34 2020
From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:36:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAO_Eq30+kuGAxxiPUt1wozVotYjBb7qZSTfMFqDnKaWF9UDf9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
	<1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO_Eq30+kuGAxxiPUt1wozVotYjBb7qZSTfMFqDnKaWF9UDf9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABX7KxV5Whric4G1E-rDtAJYtsJusYu_bFXZOENKzJPqyRiDbQ@mail.gmail.com>

>Maybe someone here can better explain how the Fox tone squelch
>works, for example how long it stays on after hearing a tone.

The Fox FM satellites (now AO-91 and AO-92) have their receivers on all the
time and listen for the 67Hz tone.  If they do not hear it they turn on the
Tx every 2 minutes for about 10 seconds for a couple frames of telemetry
and a voice ID (without the repeater enabled).   If they do hear a tone,
they turn on the repeater for 1 minute (extended each time they hear the
tone).

The tone detector is not too sharp so it might trigger on 69.3 or 71.9 Hz
as well.  It does require that the tone be heard for a bit of time (I don't
remember exactly how long--in the hundreds of ms, I think), so it is not
too likely to be triggered by random noise that has some components in that
frequency range.  Of course it is not impossible.

Unlike many terrestrial repeaters, the Fox repeaters do not transmit a tone
squelch on the downlink.  Those frequencies are right where we stick the
telemetry.

I hope that is helpful...

Burns WB1FJ
AMSAT Fox Flight Software

>
>

From sjdevience at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 14:06:08 2020
From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:06:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
	<1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMPfQQD9E1MH1Fv9+NZg+zt9vx+xhAEZb5fF1rxq3Jxb2=p6Tg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Burns, that's a great explanation of the tones. In that case it
could be any of the 145.11 repeaters in that region on a third harmonic, or
someone who picked the uplink frequency for an uncoordinated repeater, as
has been mentioned.

-Stephen

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:47 AM Stephen DeVience <sjdevience at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I listened to that Satnogs recording again, and I hear a single beep
> courtesy tone between transmissions from each person, so I think it's a
> repeater. It has some points where the repeater conversation stops and then
> appears to bring up the satellite again, so I would think it needs to match
> the tone. Maybe someone here can better explain how the Fox tone squelch
> works, for example how long it stays on after hearing a tone.
>
> The repeater that I suspect has echolink, so maybe I can get on it during
> a pass and get a recording.
>
> -Stephen, N8URE
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:05 PM nathanjwhite <nathanjwhite at frontier.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A couple of weeks ago we identified 2 stations overheard on AO-92 with
>> apparent Boston area QTH (Waltham and Harvard) but still no indication of a
>> repeater.
>> AMSAT has a recording of the pass.
>>
>> Nate
>> N5LEX
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, 10:44 PM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> Cool, it?s challenging because the length of passes aren?t much longer
>> than the interval to ID. It?s frustrating but perseverance pays off.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID/VE6LID
>>
>> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:37, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?
>> > That?s what I meant. Thanks Mike. Already been communicating with
>> Glasbrenner
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:32 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> AMSAT can only sort it out with the help from users, they have no
>> magic wand. Through a process of elimination the region the offender is
>> located in can be narrowed down by figuring out a common footprint.
>> Continued monitoring can also reveal a repeater or user ID. This process
>> has been used in the past to track down offenders. Keep listening and
>> forward any call signs you hear, AMSAT will definitely reach out to them.
>> Also, recordings help.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Mike Diehl
>> >> W8LID/VE6LID
>> >>
>> >> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 22:07, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ?I heard it too at the same time-ish maybe about 1532z though from
>> Florida
>> >> > on a 4/26 pass from the North to South. Hopefully AMSAT can sort
>> this one
>> >> > out
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <
>> >> >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Following up on the previous discussion, I too heard a ragchew on
>> AO-92
>> >> >> during the 4/26 15:20 pass, and others heard it on the 4/27 02:00
>> pass. I
>> >> >> checked for repeaters in New England with a 67 Hz CTCSS tone, and
>> W1RJC in
>> >> >> New Bedford comes up. Its output at 145.110 MHz also uses a 67 Hz
>> tone and
>> >> >> would have a third harmonic at 435.330 MHz, just about right for
>> AO-92
>> >> >> considering doppler. It is also consistent with hearing a NH
>> callsign and
>> >> >> discussions about sea vessels :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Stephen, N8URE
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> >> >> expressed
>> >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of
>> >> >> AMSAT-NA.
>> >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >> >> Subscription settings:
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>> >> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Brian Wilkins
>> >> > KO4AQF
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
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>> >> > Subscription settings:
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>> > Brian Wilkins
>> > KO4AQF
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>

From kv1j at comcast.net  Tue Apr 28 14:51:29 2020
From: kv1j at comcast.net (Eric Williams)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:51:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
Message-ID: <000001d61d6c$8089db40$819d91c0$@comcast.net>

I am in the area of a suspected repeater. Also in the area of the towns
mentioned to could be that machine.  I'll watch for the next AO-92 pass and
announce my call of the repeater a few times and listen to AO-92.  So if you
hear "KV1J" it is me testing for the interference.  I have not looked at the
pass schedule yet but I can try a couple passes.
73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42


From nathanjwhite at frontier.com  Tue Apr 28 15:04:49 2020
From: nathanjwhite at frontier.com (nathanjwhite)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:04:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <000001d61d6c$8089db40$819d91c0$@comcast.net>
References: <000001d61d6c$8089db40$819d91c0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2129400971.1593659.1588086289372@mail.yahoo.com>

Maybe listen on the uplink frequency? My first impression was that it sounded like guys on simplex with BaoFengs and the courtesy tone left on. Could be they picked a frequency away from area repeaters and use it without a care. To cover?20 miles around the city they?d probably have the power up high enough to key the bird.?Stranger things have happened.
NateN5LEX


On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 10:51 AM, Eric Williams via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

I am in the area of a suspected repeater. Also in the area of the towns
mentioned to could be that machine.? I'll watch for the next AO-92 pass and
announce my call of the repeater a few times and listen to AO-92.? So if you
hear "KV1J" it is me testing for the interference.? I have not looked at the
pass schedule yet but I can try a couple passes.
73,? Eric? KV1J? FN42

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From kv1j at comcast.net  Tue Apr 28 15:14:09 2020
From: kv1j at comcast.net (Eric Williams)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:14:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
Message-ID: <000601d61d6f$abaff860$030fe920$@comcast.net>

Yes, I am also listening to the uplink freq.  Next pass is in about 1 hour.
73  Eric  KV1J 

(I use digest mode for this list so pardon the not including the string of
messages)

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Williams [mailto:kv1j at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:51 AM
To: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: RE: Repeater interference on AO-92 

I am in the area of a suspected repeater. Also in the area of the towns
mentioned to could be that machine.  I'll watch for the next AO-92 pass and
announce my call of the repeater a few times and listen to AO-92.  So if you
hear "KV1J" it is me testing for the interference.  I have not looked at the
pass schedule yet but I can try a couple passes.
73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42


From marklhammond at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 15:24:53 2020
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:24:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <000001d61d6c$8089db40$819d91c0$@comcast.net>
References: <000001d61d6c$8089db40$819d91c0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAPRXzypR-_63YEqVtL0X_QkhaxRABF_MF7F8msa1eDC79BaTDQ@mail.gmail.com>

The next AO-92 pass should be camera mode!!  Help collect frames, folks!

Mark N8MH

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:51 AM Eric Williams via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I am in the area of a suspected repeater. Also in the area of the towns
> mentioned to could be that machine.  I'll watch for the next AO-92 pass and
> announce my call of the repeater a few times and listen to AO-92.  So if
> you
> hear "KV1J" it is me testing for the interference.  I have not looked at
> the
> pass schedule yet but I can try a couple passes.
> 73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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-- 
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

From royldean at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 15:24:54 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:24:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Repeater interference on AO-92
Message-ID: <CADGPg2tQqjF_2ad6MEaBMawCm5gU0UGs5U24-vNaGXQ6maZLkA@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Yes, I am also listening to the uplink freq. Next pass is in about 1 hour.
> 73 Eric KV1J


Keep in mind that somebody may be commanding it into picture mode.

--Roy
K3RLD

From zleffke at vt.edu  Tue Apr 28 15:49:21 2020
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Leffke, Zachary)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:49:21 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2tQqjF_2ad6MEaBMawCm5gU0UGs5U24-vNaGXQ6maZLkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2tQqjF_2ad6MEaBMawCm5gU0UGs5U24-vNaGXQ6maZLkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB7037909245D237BD286AEDB8DFAC0@MN2PR05MB7037.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Not to get too far off topic, but this is the kind of thing that an SDR in orbit could help hunt down.  Imagine one of the GOLFs, with is SDR capability.....send a few commands, and now we have a bent pipe transponder on the frequency of interest, maybe routed maybe to an S or X Band downlink (or both), plop a carrier next to the relayed passband to aid in Doppler tracking.  Record a pass with the FM interferer transmitting, using TLEs (or better orbit data if available) reverse out the Doppler between monitoring GS and the bird, then look for the inflection point in the S-curve....there's Time of closest approach.....draw the ground track and at TCA, draw lines at right angles to the ground track....transmitter lies on that line.  Do that for a few passes (or with multiple receivers, i.e. both GOLFs) and you get intersecting lines...there's your huckleberry.  Even better, if there is IQ storage capacity on the birds, time it to record over the region of interest, and downlink the digital IQ at some later time (say over X-band at high rate).  This removes channel effects of the downlink and removes the need to be in the same footprint to receive the interferer.

Similar situation and geolocation was done via FO-29 in previous years, but that was because the uplink happened to lie in the passband of FO-29.  Essentially the same algorithms as the original SARSAT system before the advent of GPS.  With something like the GOLF series, we could actively 'go on the hunt' and control things a lot better.

Also, for the record, I don't know if this is actually a capability being designed into GOLF.  Just using GOLF as the example of Amateur SDRs in orbit and yet another novel application.  My little 'send a few commands' note above completely obscures how complex something like this could wind up being (especially if storage capabilities are included)....but fun to think about!


-Zach, KJ4QLP

-- 
Research Associate
Aerospace & Ocean Systems Lab
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:25 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92

>
> Yes, I am also listening to the uplink freq. Next pass is in about 1 hour.
> 73 Eric KV1J


Keep in mind that somebody may be commanding it into picture mode.

--Roy
K3RLD
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Apr 28 15:54:41 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:54:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <000601d61d6f$abaff860$030fe920$@comcast.net>
References: <000601d61d6f$abaff860$030fe920$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <f60466d1-adb5-1c7c-6716-c6376793acd8@pobox.com>

On 04/28/20 10:14, Eric Williams via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> (I use digest mode for this list so pardon the not including the string of
> messages)

Thank you! Trimming down reply quotes saves time and bandwidth.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Apr 28 16:20:04 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:20:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <f60466d1-adb5-1c7c-6716-c6376793acd8@pobox.com>
References: <000601d61d6f$abaff860$030fe920$@comcast.net>
	<f60466d1-adb5-1c7c-6716-c6376793acd8@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <be2d777a8e61c7895a5f4d81962c7fa9@etczone.com>


?Wow! Just tried the last AO-92 pass. Sounds like we've lost the use of that satellite until we get the interference thing straightened. Heard regular interference for the whole pass here in EM79.
Steve AI9IN
EM79ji
Oldenburg IN



From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Apr 28 16:22:12 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:22:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <f60466d1-adb5-1c7c-6716-c6376793acd8@pobox.com>
References: <000601d61d6f$abaff860$030fe920$@comcast.net>
	<f60466d1-adb5-1c7c-6716-c6376793acd8@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <6c37b02eca437f804e007b8716b6e4a6@etczone.com>


?Well, I just read the prior messages about camera mode. That's what I was hearing. So, never mind.
Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message -----



From cchunter3 at mindspring.com  Tue Apr 28 16:40:00 2020
From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:40:00 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA NEWS - Lunar Flashlight mission - CUBESAT TECH
Message-ID: <a8d3d1fd-4ba1-aba0-50e1-be8b39f46115@mindspring.com>

FYI - NASA CUBESAT NEWS

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7647&utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nasajpl&utm_content=daily20200427-1

73 Christy KB6LTY


From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 28 17:22:43 2020
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:22:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] First signals from Quetzal-1
References: <1083626630.1112762.1588094563682.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1083626630.1112762.1588094563682@mail.yahoo.com>

Please see here:
<?https://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/quetzal.htm ?>
73s de Roland PY4ZBZ

From sjdevience at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 18:39:26 2020
From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:39:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAMPfQQD9E1MH1Fv9+NZg+zt9vx+xhAEZb5fF1rxq3Jxb2=p6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
	<1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMPfQQD9E1MH1Fv9+NZg+zt9vx+xhAEZb5fF1rxq3Jxb2=p6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMPfQQA+wmcvWC7NQdT2KB-hBgKp0w8O+pO1+kX9jW=Q2mDhAA@mail.gmail.com>

*Not to get too far off topic, but this is the kind of thing that an
SDR in orbit could help hunt down.  Imagine one of the GOLFs, with is
SDR capability.....*

Yes, with its very own NROL-37, AMSAT could make enough money to put a
lot of satellites in orbit! Speaking of which, I'm sure there's a
recording of the interfering stations *somewhere* already.

KV1J, that would be awesome to test. Even just recording the repeater
output if someone is talking during the pass might allow it to be
correlated with a satellite recording. I was going to try on echolink,
but it looks like the nodes are down. Maybe leave a radio on the input
frequency sometime as well to see if anyone on baofengs shows up.


-Stephen, N8URE

From k5saf.tx at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 19:15:08 2020
From: k5saf.tx at gmail.com (Tom Matthews)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:15:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
Message-ID: <CAOD_qbUg-dEPUzi0T6ALbU3z61Y0sFV1pgyVRVA6XShiPdV29w@mail.gmail.com>

Thinking of AO-82 - Be sure to check out these fantastic images from today:
https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4

-- 
Tom K5SAF

From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 28 19:20:05 2020
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:20:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
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 AO-82... new satellite?

    On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 3:17:09 PM EDT, Tom Matthews via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 Thinking of AO-82 - Be sure to check out these fantastic images from today:
https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4

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From k5saf.tx at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 19:24:49 2020
From: k5saf.tx at gmail.com (Tom Matthews)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:24:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
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Wow Typo of course guys - AO-92

Too much screen time...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:20 PM Robert Switzer <rs2atmink at yahoo.com> wrote:

> AO-82... new satellite?
>
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 3:17:09 PM EDT, Tom Matthews via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
> Thinking of AO-82 - Be sure to check out these fantastic images from today:
> https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4
>
> --
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Apr 28 19:26:16 2020
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:26:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
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On 04/28/20 14:15, Tom Matthews via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Thinking of AO-82 - Be sure to check out these fantastic images from today:
> https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4

Fantastic pictures. Great job, VT!

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From marklhammond at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 19:55:53 2020
From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:55:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
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	<0a82eea0-29a6-7c5b-78e6-f4c0e433ab6f@pobox.com>
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Agreed!  Good job, VT and Fox team!  Always fun to help collect these
frames for the photos.   Did you visit the link of a photo, and see that it
shows where the satellite was then the image was taken?  Very cool!

https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showSubPage.php?id=4&image=fox1d/images/4_69_836525_20.jpg?9960&pc=20&reset=69&uptime=836525&zoom=1&mapZoom=5

Mark N8MH


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:37 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> On 04/28/20 14:15, Tom Matthews via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Thinking of AO-82 - Be sure to check out these fantastic images from
> today:
> > https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4
>
> Fantastic pictures. Great job, VT!
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
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From zleffke at vt.edu  Tue Apr 28 20:23:20 2020
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Leffke, Zachary)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:23:20 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
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	<0a82eea0-29a6-7c5b-78e6-f4c0e433ab6f@pobox.com>
	<CAPRXzyr46d8=pkadq26V-Fodjct5uNatQiYeGDj9u2qsLMSX9g@mail.gmail.com>
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Ha!  Great to see its still working!  Pretty good when our bare minimum success criteria was one image from orbit from one of the two cameras....

Wish I had more time to think about the roll rates and the earth-detection sensitivity settings (indicated by the 'VT-2' watermark).  Of the 9 images collected today, 3 looked pretty nice, 2 look like partial downloads, and 4 were false detects of light glinting off the antenna....wish we had factored more into the design to account for that so that we aren't wasting time downloading 'bad' images.....lesson learned for future work for next time.

I do love those limb of the earth shots....def my favorites!

-Zach, KJ4QLP

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To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images

Agreed!  Good job, VT and Fox team!  Always fun to help collect these
frames for the photos.   Did you visit the link of a photo, and see that it
shows where the satellite was then the image was taken?  Very cool!

https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showSubPage.php?id=4&image=fox1d/images/4_69_836525_20.jpg?9960&pc=20&reset=69&uptime=836525&zoom=1&mapZoom=5

Mark N8MH


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:37 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> On 04/28/20 14:15, Tom Matthews via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Thinking of AO-82 - Be sure to check out these fantastic images from
> today:
> > https://www.amsat.org/tlm/showImages.php?id=4
>
> Fantastic pictures. Great job, VT!
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
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From meyersb at uplogon.com  Tue Apr 28 22:26:17 2020
From: meyersb at uplogon.com (Bob Meyers)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:26:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
Message-ID: <738D648D-57C4-4A6E-B0B5-EF18AD48666B@uplogon.com>

I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload PO-101 it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name on line 41". 

Bob
WA8FXQ 

From bwilkins at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 22:36:20 2020
From: bwilkins at gmail.com (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:36:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
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References: <738D648D-57C4-4A6E-B0B5-EF18AD48666B@uplogon.com>
Message-ID: <CAO_Eq30gCxPYsAqu7w7gqio5zaS4JPOCoy5ja9nzhN8SpQxbDA@mail.gmail.com>

Can you post a Dropbox link to your ADIF file?

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:33 PM Bob Meyers via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been
> working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload PO-101
> it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this
> satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name
> on line 41".
>
> Bob
> WA8FXQ
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From twjones85 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 22:39:54 2020
From: twjones85 at gmail.com (Tanner Jones)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:39:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
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Looks like TQSL config file 11.8 is when it was added (per the AMSAT tweet).

Tanner

W9TWJ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Can you post a Dropbox link to your ADIF file?
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:33 PM Bob Meyers via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been
>> working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload PO-101
>> it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this
>> satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name
>> on line 41".
>> 
>> Bob
>> WA8FXQ
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From pconver at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 23:04:48 2020
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:04:48 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] QUETZAL-1
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=3CrHuB2yyqEZEGNE-5+JhZu+nJGvkR7FxHLidv=4-Yw@mail.gmail.com>

Passes & freqs http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=quetzal

Congrats Guatemala for your 1st Satellite.

73, lu7abf, Pedro

From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Apr 28 23:24:48 2020
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:24:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
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References: <738D648D-57C4-4A6E-B0B5-EF18AD48666B@uplogon.com>
Message-ID: <31645f38f6b175b363cf03273e45af4b@etczone.com>


?I submit mine as PO-101 and it works fine. Gotta have the dash.
Steve AI9IN
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Date: 04/28/20 18:33
To: Amsat (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101

I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been working very good on all satellites. ?However when I try and upload PO-101 it gets rejected by LoTW. ?Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this satellites name? ? I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name on line 41".

Bob
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From johnv at frontier.com  Tue Apr 28 23:28:06 2020
From: johnv at frontier.com (johnv at frontier.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:28:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
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References: <738D648D-57C4-4A6E-B0B5-EF18AD48666B@uplogon.com>
	<31645f38f6b175b363cf03273e45af4b@etczone.com>
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Upgrade your TQSL to the latest which is 2.5.3.

John 


Faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
 

    On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 4:26:00 PM PDT, Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:  
 
 
?I submit mine as PO-101 and it works fine. Gotta have the dash.
Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message -----
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Date: 04/28/20 18:33
To: Amsat (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101

I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been working very good on all satellites. ?However when I try and upload PO-101 it gets rejected by LoTW. ?Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this satellites name? ? I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name on line 41".

Bob
WA8FXQ
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From mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu  Tue Apr 28 23:42:14 2020
From: mjohns+K0JM at luther.edu (Mark D. Johns)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:42:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
In-Reply-To: <738D648D-57C4-4A6E-B0B5-EF18AD48666B@uplogon.com>
References: <738D648D-57C4-4A6E-B0B5-EF18AD48666B@uplogon.com>
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See https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats
also, get the new version of TQSL
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:32 PM Bob Meyers via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload PO-101 it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name on line 41".
>
> Bob
> WA8FXQ
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From wb3csy at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 03:02:08 2020
From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:02:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
In-Reply-To: <31645f38f6b175b363cf03273e45af4b@etczone.com>
References: <31645f38f6b175b363cf03273e45af4b@etczone.com>
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The new TQSL has a very picky. I got the same thing until I looked at the right top box in AC Log in more detail. Highlight alll the message in that box, paste it into a word processor and print it out. You most likely have errors in some entries the old TQSL never caught. Once you find each one in your ACLOG, edit and correct, reload them up to LOTW, it will then accept PO-101 sats without a problem. Had the same thing. There is nothing wrong with your current log other than there are mistakes. My most common was an ?I? instead of the number ?1? in a callsign. 
You will be purring along soon. 
73,
Rick WB3CSY

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> ?
>  I submit mine as PO-101 and it works fine. Gotta have the dash.
> Steve AI9IN
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Meyers via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
> Date: 04/28/20 18:33
> To: Amsat (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
> Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
> 
> I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has been working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload PO-101 it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite name on line 41".
> 
> Bob
> WA8FXQ
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From kv1j at comcast.net  Wed Apr 29 03:17:23 2020
From: kv1j at comcast.net (Eric Williams)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:17:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
Message-ID: <000001d61dd4$b4713a80$1d53af80$@comcast.net>

I ran the experiments for 2 passes. 28Apr 1608 UTC and 29Apr 0245 UTC.  The
first pass was just a few minutes before it switched to the video mode.  The
second pass was high elevation and 11 minutes.

It was mentioned that the interference might be from a 145.110 MHz repeater
due to the 3rd harmonic.  Also mentioned were towns heard in the
conversation and that there was a courtesy beep.  A repeater in our area
that fits all those items in the N1CON repeater in Concord MA.

For both passes I heard the bird fine and there were ongoing QSOs.  During
the passes I transmitted periodically on the repeater announcing my call and
'testing' to cause some audio on the repeater.  Also had another station
transmitting on the repeater.  Throughout the test I did not hear any
interference on the downlink.  So also, I did not listen to the uplink
frequency since there did not seem to be any interference at that time.  I
am using different radios for TX and RX, and antennas that are far apart for
the tests.

I'll check from time to time listening to the downlink.  If I hear the
interference, I can both check the uplink frequency and also listen to the
local repeaters.  There are many in this area.

73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42 (West of Boston MA) 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Williams [mailto:kv1j at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:14 AM
To: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: RE: Repeater interference on AO-92 

Yes, I am also listening to the uplink freq.  Next pass is in about 1 hour.
73  Eric  KV1J 

(I use digest mode for this list so pardon the not including the string of
messages)

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Williams [mailto:kv1j at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:51 AM
To: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: RE: Repeater interference on AO-92 

I am in the area of a suspected repeater. Also in the area of the towns
mentioned to could be that machine.  I'll watch for the next AO-92 pass and
announce my call of the repeater a few times and listen to AO-92.  So if you
hear "KV1J" it is me testing for the interference.  I have not looked at the
pass schedule yet but I can try a couple passes.
73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42


From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 29 03:21:09 2020
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 03:21:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 20-03
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ARISSNews Release No. 20-03 DaveJordan, AA4KN 

ARISSPR

aa4kn at amsat.org






FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE







Duringthe COVID-19 Pandemic, ARISS to Begin Experimental Demonstrations ofSchool Contacts using a Multipoint Telebridge Amateur Radio Approach




April28, 2020?AmateurRadio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is pleased toannounce the first use of a concept called MultipointTelebridge Contact via Amateur Radio,allowing school contacts for Stay-At-Home students and simultaneousreception by families, school faculty and the public.

 

Duringthe last several weeks, efforts to contain the spread of the COVID-19virus have resulted in massive school closures worldwide. Inaddition, the Stay-At-Home policies invoked by authorities, initiallyshut down opportunities for ARISS school contacts for the nearfuture. 




Tocircumvent these challenges and keep students and the public safe,ARISS is introducing the MultipointTelebridge Contact via Amateur Radio concept.First operation of this experimental system will occur during acontact scheduled with a group of Northern Virginia Studentslocated in Woodbridge, VA on Thursday, April 30 at 13:35 UTC (9:35EDT). During this event, an ARISS telebridge radio ground stationwill link to the astronaut on the International Space Station (ISS)ham radio station and each Stay-At-Home student and their teacherwill be individually linked to the telebridge station. Under theteacher?s direction, each student, from their home, takes a turnasking their question of the astronaut. 




QuotingARISS Chair Frank Bauer, ?Thisapproach is a huge pivot for ARISS, but we feel it is a greatstrategic move for ARISS. In these times of isolation due to thevirus, these ARISS connections provide a fantastic psychologicalboost to students, families, educators and the public. And theycontinue our long-standing efforts to inspire, engage and educatestudent in STEAM subjects and encourage them to pursue STEAMcareers.? 




ARISSis inviting the public to view a live stream of the upcoming contactat its new ARISS YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/Cu8I9ose4Vo.




Duringthe contact, participants will ask as many of the following questionsas time allows: 

1.What does the sun look like from outer space?

2.How comfortable is it to sleep in space?

3.What is one thing you want to eat when you get back to earth?

4.I've heard that stars are red, yellow and blue. Can you see thosecolors in space when you look at the stars?

5.Besides your family, what do you miss most while being in space?

6.What are your thoughts on our Covid-19 situation right now? Does theEarth look differently over the last 3 months now that many peopleare inside and not creating pollution?

7.How often do you get to go out of the ISS? Have you been on any spacewalks?

8.Who makes the rocket that takes you to the ISS?

9.What does it feel like to float all the time?

10.Do you use flashlights on space walks?

11.How do you exercise in space?

12.How do you get out for space walks safely without the air from theISS coming out into space? How does it feel to walk in space?

13.What do you wear in the space station?

14.How did it feel when you first got to space?

15.How is space different from Earth? 

16.What do you study in school to become an astronaut?

17.What do you like the most about being in space?

18.Were you nervous when you launched into space?

19.How do you communicate with loved ones while you are in space?




AboutARISS:




AmateurRadio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperativeventure of international amateur radio societies and the spaceagencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In theUnited States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation(AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Laband National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primarygoal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology,engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduledcontacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS andstudents in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radiocontacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn aboutspace, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information,see www.ariss.org







MediaContact:

DaveJordan, AA4KN

ARISSPR

 



















 








From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Apr 29 03:23:18 2020
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:23:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Images
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On 4/28/2020 15:23, Leffke, Zachary via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Ha!  Great to see its still working!  Pretty good when our bare minimum success criteria was one image from orbit from one of the two cameras....
>
> Wish I had more time to think about the roll rates and the earth-detection sensitivity settings (indicated by the 'VT-2' watermark).  Of the 9 images collected today, 3 looked pretty nice, 2 look like partial downloads, and 4 were false detects of light glinting off the antenna....wish we had factored more into the design to account for that so that we aren't wasting time downloading 'bad' images.....lesson learned for future work for next time.
>
> I do love those limb of the earth shots....def my favorites!
Yeah, great images!? Say, let's talk 640x480 when you get a chance, just
a reminder and you can reply to my office email address...?? hihi
My recollection is clear since I don't do anything so I am keen to play
with "settings" (intentional no-detail reference) and it be would be
nice to combine it with a resolution change capability as well.
Carrot on a stick in front of everybody, I'm mean without a doubt!?
Here's a chance to up your game...

73 Zach,

Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Apr 29 03:28:24 2020
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:28:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
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References: <000001d61dd4$b4713a80$1d53af80$@comcast.net>
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I don't know if it was mentioned, once the receiver is opened with a
67Hz tone AO-9n does not need to hear a tone with any transmission until
the one minute timer passes at which time the repeater TX stops.?
Hearing a tone with each transmission resets that timer, but it is quite
possible to make a QSO or cause interference during the one minute
without having the tone on your uplink signal.? A repeater output or
whatever other source of an unexpected signal such as a harmonic, could
be heard and repeated if it had better than ~ -120 dBm signal at the
satellite during that time.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 4/28/2020 22:17, Eric Williams via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I ran the experiments for 2 passes. 28Apr 1608 UTC and 29Apr 0245 UTC.  The
> first pass was just a few minutes before it switched to the video mode.  The
> second pass was high elevation and 11 minutes.
>
> It was mentioned that the interference might be from a 145.110 MHz repeater
> due to the 3rd harmonic.  Also mentioned were towns heard in the
> conversation and that there was a courtesy beep.  A repeater in our area
> that fits all those items in the N1CON repeater in Concord MA.
>
> For both passes I heard the bird fine and there were ongoing QSOs.  During
> the passes I transmitted periodically on the repeater announcing my call and
> 'testing' to cause some audio on the repeater.  Also had another station
> transmitting on the repeater.  Throughout the test I did not hear any
> interference on the downlink.  So also, I did not listen to the uplink
> frequency since there did not seem to be any interference at that time.  I
> am using different radios for TX and RX, and antennas that are far apart for
> the tests.
>
> I'll check from time to time listening to the downlink.  If I hear the
> interference, I can both check the uplink frequency and also listen to the
> local repeaters.  There are many in this area.
>
> 73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42 (West of Boston MA) 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Williams [mailto:kv1j at comcast.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:14 AM
> To: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: RE: Repeater interference on AO-92 
>
> Yes, I am also listening to the uplink freq.  Next pass is in about 1 hour.
> 73  Eric  KV1J 
>
> (I use digest mode for this list so pardon the not including the string of
> messages)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Williams [mailto:kv1j at comcast.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:51 AM
> To: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: RE: Repeater interference on AO-92 
>
> I am in the area of a suspected repeater. Also in the area of the towns
> mentioned to could be that machine.  I'll watch for the next AO-92 pass and
> announce my call of the repeater a few times and listen to AO-92.  So if you
> hear "KV1J" it is me testing for the interference.  I have not looked at the
> pass schedule yet but I can try a couple passes.
> 73,  Eric  KV1J  FN42
>
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From documike at comcast.net  Wed Apr 29 03:38:54 2020
From: documike at comcast.net (Mike Lucas)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:38:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE for QUETZAL-1?
Message-ID: <003801d61dd7$b59b8250$20d286f0$@comcast.net>

Anybody have or have a link to element set for the new satellite yet?

Thanks!

Mike N7ASZ


From penguin359 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 03:45:18 2020
From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:45:18 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE for QUETZAL-1?
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References: <003801d61dd7$b59b8250$20d286f0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CACymvmf+CjzdrWHmAGZjsREanh5O6Jar+Cp9k7iRiOawpVKOCQ@mail.gmail.com>

>From AMSAT Argentina:

http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt

It has this:

QUETZAL-1
1 99990U 98067A   20119.56587424  .00001440  00000-0  33911-4 0  9990
2 99999  51.6450 234.0607 0001480 200.5697 251.6220 15.49325980224329


It appears to be just a little behind the ISS so I am assuming it is
reasonably accurate.

- Loren
K7IW





On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:40 PM Mike Lucas via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Anybody have or have a link to element set for the new satellite yet?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike N7ASZ
>
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From penguin359 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 06:13:33 2020
From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:13:33 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
Message-ID: <CACymvmczZHa6Xy_kRBc+bU6jthm=Z=0Os8zSNA2YTtKsD7LcKg@mail.gmail.com>

I tried capturing some of the high-speed data from AO-92 today from the
final 1750Z pass today when the camera was activated. I believe I had some
success, but I am a little confused about what I captured. I did it in two
stages using my phone to capture the raw IQ from my SDR during the pass and
then playing it back on my computer right after into Foxtelem 108z5. The
pass was only 16 degrees at it's peak, but I was able to hear the satellite
down to as little as 6 degrees and Foxtelem reported 24 frames successfully
decoded.

My first point of confusion is I heard QSO what sounded like modem sounds
over the FM downlink intermixed with amateur calls coming through. I assume
that was the high-speed 9600 data mode I was hearing, but this was starting
a few minutes before 1750Z so was the camera mode able to be activated a
little early? Second, is the repeater still active while HS mode is
running? I thought that repeater operation would be disabled to avoid
having voice interfering with the data downlink or is this not an issue?

Last question is, why do I not having anything under the Camera (1D) tab
for AO-92? That tab is completely blank and doesn't seem to have any data
collected. It appears that all frames received are under either the Health
tab or HERCI HK (1D). The recent telemetry for HERCI HK is also all zeros
it seems.

It definitely sounded like there was some high-speed data transfer
happening, something besides the 200 bps DUV signal, but it doesn't look
like I collected anything particular to the Camera operation. Was it not
active during that time or did I just not collect enough frames to assemble
anything?

I still have the original raw IQ capture from the event today.

- Loren
K7IW

From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Wed Apr 29 09:31:03 2020
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 04:31:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
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References: <CACymvmczZHa6Xy_kRBc+bU6jthm=Z=0Os8zSNA2YTtKsD7LcKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <797795FC2BA7480B9B77FA768D2BEA06@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>

What you heard was the command station attempting to send the command to AO-92 to activate the camera.

Unfortunately, there were several stations trying to use the repeater at the time and blocking the commands being sent to 
AO-92.

When the camera is active, the repeater is not available.

Glenn
AA5PK

-----Original Message----- 
From: Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:13 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions

I tried capturing some of the high-speed data from AO-92 today from the
final 1750Z pass today when the camera was activated. I believe I had some
success, but I am a little confused about what I captured. I did it in two
stages using my phone to capture the raw IQ from my SDR during the pass and
then playing it back on my computer right after into Foxtelem 108z5. The
pass was only 16 degrees at it's peak, but I was able to hear the satellite
down to as little as 6 degrees and Foxtelem reported 24 frames successfully
decoded. 


From sjdevience at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 12:02:22 2020
From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:02:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Repeater interference on AO-92
In-Reply-To: <CAMPfQQA+wmcvWC7NQdT2KB-hBgKp0w8O+pO1+kX9jW=Q2mDhAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq303vNBL9Lv7xehhiZd8p2GWbSdndEkkJkQLdvEN0amEGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12AAA21-DCE6-4604-9B8F-0B99BA8AEF6B@gmail.com>
	<1240407378.1386473.1588043140508@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAMPfQQCainF7D8LFuNTCY_6bEzEL+JV2gj9AUyHtAeO-2_LoDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMPfQQD9E1MH1Fv9+NZg+zt9vx+xhAEZb5fF1rxq3Jxb2=p6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMPfQQA+wmcvWC7NQdT2KB-hBgKp0w8O+pO1+kX9jW=Q2mDhAA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for testing that Eric. Today it's in L/V mode, but tomorrows ~15:25
pass should have a similar time and profile to the ones where there have
been problems.

-Stephen, N8URE

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:39 PM Stephen DeVience <sjdevience at gmail.com>
wrote:

> *Not to get too far off topic, but this is the kind of thing that an SDR in orbit could help hunt down.  Imagine one of the GOLFs, with is SDR capability.....*
>
> Yes, with its very own NROL-37, AMSAT could make enough money to put a lot of satellites in orbit! Speaking of which, I'm sure there's a recording of the interfering stations *somewhere* already.
>
> KV1J, that would be awesome to test. Even just recording the repeater output if someone is talking during the pass might allow it to be correlated with a satellite recording. I was going to try on echolink, but it looks like the nodes are down. Maybe leave a radio on the input frequency sometime as well to see if anyone on baofengs shows up.
>
>
> -Stephen, N8URE
>
>

From paul.mcl at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 22:51:36 2020
From: paul.mcl at gmail.com (Paul Mcl)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:51:36 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
In-Reply-To: <4F201873-6BAF-450F-9A2A-CAC3FEEFEE75@gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq30gCxPYsAqu7w7gqio5zaS4JPOCoy5ja9nzhN8SpQxbDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F201873-6BAF-450F-9A2A-CAC3FEEFEE75@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJXrojBthLBGsrV3Hp4aNzHWo3e562RnnmtcNy_mur0919ncGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

What is the sat name that is used for PO-101 in LoTW?   I am also having a
problem but using 11.9.   I am manually adding the sat name entry as my
logger doesn?t support sats and using PO-101 but it doesn?t like it.

Regards

Paul MM0ZBH



On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 23:41, Tanner Jones via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Looks like TQSL config file 11.8 is when it was added (per the AMSAT
> tweet).
>
> Tanner
>
> W9TWJ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?Can you post a Dropbox link to your ADIF file?
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:33 PM Bob Meyers via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has
> been
> >> working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload
> PO-101
> >> it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this
> >> satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite
> name
> >> on line 41".
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> WA8FXQ
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> > --
> > Brian Wilkins
> > KO4AQF
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> expressed
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From py2rmy at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 23:46:34 2020
From: py2rmy at gmail.com (Ronaldo Martins)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:46:34 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT
Message-ID: <CA+-XhGWTCfgvYV=ABG7AVRk9mQu7ORw+kUZL3jdTZ0oPeWR4Nw@mail.gmail.com>

OL?
73 de PY2RMY

From ramsey4 at xtra.co.nz  Wed Apr 29 04:39:29 2020
From: ramsey4 at xtra.co.nz (Rob Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:39:29 +1200 (NZST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse
Message-ID: <715127390.1632347.1588135169344@webmail.xtra.co.nz>

A little more info please on the camera mode of AO-92 , Is this just a real time transmission as the satellite is overhead or close by? is it stored and sent continuously for a predetermined time? I had my station on remote all day got nothing here in New Zealand ZL3TCM

From meyersb at uplogon.com  Wed Apr 29 13:32:32 2020
From: meyersb at uplogon.com (Bob Meyers)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:32:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and PO-101
In-Reply-To: <CAJXrojBthLBGsrV3Hp4aNzHWo3e562RnnmtcNy_mur0919ncGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_Eq30gCxPYsAqu7w7gqio5zaS4JPOCoy5ja9nzhN8SpQxbDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F201873-6BAF-450F-9A2A-CAC3FEEFEE75@gmail.com>
	<CAJXrojBthLBGsrV3Hp4aNzHWo3e562RnnmtcNy_mur0919ncGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1DB51018-BF35-42DD-B18E-1BF615F2C892@uplogon.com>

Thanks for all the help.  I had to update my TQSL and in the update, the file for PO-101 was also updated.  My logging program now works and my contacts go to LoTW.   I will have to remember that TQSL files have to be updated whenever a new satellite is activated.

Bob
WA8FXQ 

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Paul Mcl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is the sat name that is used for PO-101 in LoTW?   I am also having a
> problem but using 11.9.   I am manually adding the sat name entry as my
> logger doesn?t support sats and using PO-101 but it doesn?t like it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Paul MM0ZBH
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 23:41, Tanner Jones via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Looks like TQSL config file 11.8 is when it was added (per the AMSAT
>> tweet).
>> 
>> Tanner
>> 
>> W9TWJ
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Can you post a Dropbox link to your ADIF file?
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:33 PM Bob Meyers via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am using N3FJP's logging program to upload contacts to LoTW. It has
>> been
>>>> working very good on all satellites.  However when I try and upload
>> PO-101
>>>> it gets rejected by LoTW.  Does anybody know what LoTW wants for this
>>>> satellites name?   I get a message back that says "invalid satellite
>> name
>>>> on line 41".
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> WA8FXQ
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> 
>>> --
>>> Brian Wilkins
>>> KO4AQF
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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From penguin359 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 13:53:56 2020
From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:53:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
In-Reply-To: <797795FC2BA7480B9B77FA768D2BEA06@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>
References: <CACymvmczZHa6Xy_kRBc+bU6jthm=Z=0Os8zSNA2YTtKsD7LcKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<797795FC2BA7480B9B77FA768D2BEA06@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>
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Ok, that makes sense. So the repeated signal I heard was simply repeated
attempts at getting the command through and were being interfered with by
the existing FM transmissions. All of the frames I collected would have
actually been DUV and not the same as the sounds I heard. Did camera mode
ever get activated during that third pass?



On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 02:31 Glenn Miller - AA5PK <aa5pk at suddenlink.net>
wrote:

> What you heard was the command station attempting to send the command to
> AO-92 to activate the camera.
>
> Unfortunately, there were several stations trying to use the repeater at
> the time and blocking the commands being sent to
> AO-92.
>
> When the camera is active, the repeater is not available.
>
> Glenn
> AA5PK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:13 AM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
>
> I tried capturing some of the high-speed data from AO-92 today from the
> final 1750Z pass today when the camera was activated. I believe I had some
> success, but I am a little confused about what I captured. I did it in two
> stages using my phone to capture the raw IQ from my SDR during the pass and
> then playing it back on my computer right after into Foxtelem 108z5. The
> pass was only 16 degrees at it's peak, but I was able to hear the satellite
> down to as little as 6 degrees and Foxtelem reported 24 frames successfully
> decoded.
>
>

From zleffke at vt.edu  Wed Apr 29 14:18:37 2020
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Leffke, Zachary)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:18:37 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse
In-Reply-To: <715127390.1632347.1588135169344@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
References: <715127390.1632347.1588135169344@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB7037F081F130BFC4F397AFD0DFAD0@MN2PR05MB7037.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rob,
When in camera mode the VT camera follows the following basic sequence:  Snap a picture, check how much 'earth' is in the frame, if it meets the 'earth detection' threshold, compress it with JPEG algorithms, break up the result into smaller data frames (8 pixel lines) and send the frame to the flight computer.  If the 'earth detection' threshold is not met, the image is discarded and another one is taken, check if there is earth, rinse repeat.  There is no long term storage of any given image and the earth detection step is part of the NOAA license.  If an image is received by a station, it's a shot from roughly 'overhead', and the AMSAT page has a nifty feature that shows the subsatellite point based off timestamp information from each image downloaded.

I believe there is a 45 minute timer (roughly half of one orbit, the command folks can double check my number there) for the general 'camera mode' of the spacecraft (which is both 'high speed mode' and 'camera on'), with the command stations that start that process in NA.  After the timeout the spacecraft goes back into transponder mode (or safe mode, again command stations can correct me there).  So it might be tricky to pick up in New Zealand.  I know early on in the life of AO-92 there were some experiments to trigger camera mode right as the spacecraft set over the horizon (I believe on ascending passes) by command stations at higher latitudes so that the camera would be active and received by Japanese hams.  A similar experiment might work for descending passes and southerly command stations, but it would be smart to look at the footprint/ground track to see which pass might put New Zealand in the footprint within the timer window.

-Zach, KJ4QLP
-- 
Research Associate
Aerospace & Ocean Systems Lab
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:39 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse

A little more info please on the camera mode of AO-92 , Is this just a real time transmission as the satellite is overhead or close by? is it stored and sent continuously for a predetermined time? I had my station on remote all day got nothing here in New Zealand ZL3TCM _______________________________________________
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 29 14:25:49 2020
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:25:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse
In-Reply-To: <715127390.1632347.1588135169344@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
References: <715127390.1632347.1588135169344@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
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Sorry, the images are real time and the camera is on a 45 minute timer to
satisfy one of our original NOAA imaging license requirements. We did get
some partial pics from Chile yesterday, but VK/ZL is likely too far for it
to remain on long enough to hear.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
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AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:39 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse

A little more info please on the camera mode of AO-92 , Is this just a real
time transmission as the satellite is overhead or close by? is it stored and
sent continuously for a predetermined time? I had my station on remote all
day got nothing here in New Zealand ZL3TCM
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 29 14:27:48 2020
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:27:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
In-Reply-To: <CACymvmeW40RsVnNaxFhht-VowTZUnCcf3_6YaPfhiW=vehSdEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACymvmczZHa6Xy_kRBc+bU6jthm=Z=0Os8zSNA2YTtKsD7LcKg@mail.gmail.com>	<797795FC2BA7480B9B77FA768D2BEA06@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>
	<CACymvmeW40RsVnNaxFhht-VowTZUnCcf3_6YaPfhiW=vehSdEQ@mail.gmail.com>
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No, it didn't get activated the third pass.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Loren M. Lang via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:54 AM
To: Glenn Miller - AA5PK <aa5pk at suddenlink.net>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions

Ok, that makes sense. So the repeated signal I heard was simply repeated
attempts at getting the command through and were being interfered with by
the existing FM transmissions. All of the frames I collected would have
actually been DUV and not the same as the sounds I heard. Did camera mode
ever get activated during that third pass?






From dtabor52 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 14:33:23 2020
From: dtabor52 at gmail.com (Douglas Tabor)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:33:23 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat-bb reader?
Message-ID: <4932CC24-506A-4295-880A-734436FDA649@gmail.com>

Does anyone know of an -bb ?reader? application that can be used with amsat-bb?

Back in the usenet days, there were reader clients that could parse entries to make them more human readable. Don?t really care if it?s Linux or MacOS based.

I browsed the amsat.org ?mailing lists and services? area and didn?t see any mention -or- is this another one of those things that are well known to those that know them well?

Many thanks.

N6UA, Douglas Tabor
dtabor52 at gmail.com




From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Apr 29 15:56:25 2020
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:56:25 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
In-Reply-To: <CACymvmeW40RsVnNaxFhht-VowTZUnCcf3_6YaPfhiW=vehSdEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACymvmczZHa6Xy_kRBc+bU6jthm=Z=0Os8zSNA2YTtKsD7LcKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<797795FC2BA7480B9B77FA768D2BEA06@DESKTOPL0IAS8B>
	<CACymvmeW40RsVnNaxFhht-VowTZUnCcf3_6YaPfhiW=vehSdEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4124a772-5c91-e2a0-2290-4c9f1c5d37e4@amsat.org>

Loren,

It is true that the DUV telemetry would continue uninterrupted, as long
as AO-92 was still in Transponder Mode.? As Drew confirmed the sat never
made it to Data Mode (the mode that enables the camera and high speed
data downlink) and if it had, the same DUV telemetry frames also come
down in the high speed data so you would continue to see them on FoxTelem.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 4/29/2020 08:53, Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> All of the frames I collected would have
> actually been DUV and not the same as the sounds I heard. Did camera mode
> ever get activated during that third pass?


From n6elf at nanoloop.io  Thu Apr 30 00:58:04 2020
From: n6elf at nanoloop.io (Ben Cook)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:58:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
Message-ID: <21464113-FE29-4A5C-9C69-6FD27FD1445C@nanoloop.io>

As someone new to satellite operations, I?m finding out that it?s 
extremely helpful to not only check the AMSAT status page before an 
upcoming pass, but also check reports from AMSAT and others on twitter. 
That helps to cut down on the confusion around schedule or mode changes. 
For example, helps to know that AO-92 was put into L mode an hour before 
the next pass you?re planning to work. Just thoughts to myself this 
first week or so on the air.

73,
Ben - N6ELF

From rw3xl at yandex.ru  Thu Apr 30 08:08:25 2020
From: rw3xl at yandex.ru (Blinov Igor)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:08:25 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
Message-ID: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>

Good day!
Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.
UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
BEACON 435605KHz
TLE:
1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
Try it!
--?
73! Igor, RW3XL


From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 11:28:12 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 07:28:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
In-Reply-To: <038a01d61c16$7823f910$686beb30$@frawg.org>
References: <038a01d61c16$7823f910$686beb30$@frawg.org>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8Poeb5wwUSsNBDELs6TQDsfWbx8yvc2Hqonu1eX5KLkRA@mail.gmail.com>

The last I heard was that it was being launched and then no further
information was released afterwards. I take that as the bird is
non-operational.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 18:07 Jack Spitznagel via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Out of curiosity - what is the status of this bird? It shows up in the NASA
> orbital info, but not in the Amateur in the SatPC32 tracking selections.
>
> The German Orbital Systems site does not elaborate on some of the details.
> particularly if one wished to configure a D-Star rig and try it. With
> IC-9700's proliferating I would expect some noise if it is accessible.
>
>
>
> Any info or help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jack Spitznagel - KD4IZ
>
> Trustee for NR3DT
>
> The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group
>
>
>
>
>
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From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Thu Apr 30 12:06:01 2020
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:06:01 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <d66462f9-424b-1252-0043-aa12023aabad@xs4all.nl>


The new amateur payload DOSAAF 85 appears to work very well.
Doppler measurements confirm that it is indeed object 44909,
2019-096E. The satellite identifies itself as "RS44" (i.e. Radio
Sputnik 44) on its CW beacon on 435.6043 kHz. The passband is
about 63 kHz wide. It may also have a downlink between 2400 and
2485 MHz. The frequencies of RS44/DOSAAF 85 have not been IARU
coordinated. The satellite is in an elliptical orbit with a perigee of
1175 km, an apogee of 1511 km and an inclination of 82.5 degrees.

The payload is apparently attached to the Breeze-KM upper stage of
a Rokot launch vehicle that launched three Gonets satellites on
December 26, 2019. It was originally expected to launch in 2015.
It is based on the Yubileiniy platform.

For details, see https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm 
<https://t.co/CCuN4HN8KI?amp=1>and
http://spaceflight101.com/rockot-blasts-off-from-plesetsk-with-military-satellite-payloads/

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 30-04-2020 10:08, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Good day!
> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.
> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> BEACON 435605KHz
> TLE:
> 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> Try it!
> -- 
> 73! Igor, RW3XL
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From peter at magicbug.co.uk  Thu Apr 30 12:17:24 2020
From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:17:24 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
In-Reply-To: <CAAJiE8Poeb5wwUSsNBDELs6TQDsfWbx8yvc2Hqonu1eX5KLkRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <038a01d61c16$7823f910$686beb30$@frawg.org>
	<CAAJiE8Poeb5wwUSsNBDELs6TQDsfWbx8yvc2Hqonu1eX5KLkRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFvUaiqqg0e0=QW_Dxqj-OboxT9Q7cU+qpdWBXWw6Z=hPfueCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah asked for further details on DSTAR One group of satellites but
the operator doesn't reply to emails and no updates so guessing failed
mission.

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 12:30, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> The last I heard was that it was being launched and then no further
> information was released afterwards. I take that as the bird is
> non-operational.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 18:07 Jack Spitznagel via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Out of curiosity - what is the status of this bird? It shows up in the NASA
> > orbital info, but not in the Amateur in the SatPC32 tracking selections.
> >
> > The German Orbital Systems site does not elaborate on some of the details.
> > particularly if one wished to configure a D-Star rig and try it. With
> > IC-9700's proliferating I would expect some noise if it is accessible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any info or help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack Spitznagel - KD4IZ
> >
> > Trustee for NR3DT
> >
> > The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 13:43:25 2020
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:43:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
Message-ID: <CADGPg2toHCoB2e0vGi_NGz5uoy0hoBMU3qJY=kA9NLsrmHVOEg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Yeah asked for further details on DSTAR One group of satellites but
> the operator doesn't reply to emails and no updates so guessing failed
> mission. Peter, 2M0SQL


There was ONE report of a successful D-Star qso not long after
commissioning.

Then the story faded into history......

--Roy
K3RLD

From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Thu Apr 30 13:48:13 2020
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:48:13 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <9fc9fa3b-2f11-4b95-dcae-e905c95e78ba@wanadoo.fr>

   ?????? ?????!
   Hello Igor!

   Strong signal of the 435.605 MHz beacon received here in Western 
Europe during the pass of orbit nr 1606, at about 12:30 TU. Thank you 
for the information.

   Have a nice day, ??????? ?????? ?? ???????, 73!

   ???-???? F5YG - Jean-Pierre F5YG

Le 30/04/2020 ? 08:08, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB a ?crit?:
> Good day!
> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.
> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> BEACON 435605KHz
> TLE:
> 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> Try it!
> -- 
> 73! Igor, RW3XL
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Thu Apr 30 13:56:09 2020
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:56:09 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <d66462f9-424b-1252-0043-aa12023aabad@xs4all.nl>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
	<d66462f9-424b-1252-0043-aa12023aabad@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <303fdea2-5905-b42c-266c-d9eb980dd06b@wanadoo.fr>

   Many, many thanks Nico for this valuable information.

   Best 73,

   J-P F5YG

Le 30/04/2020 ? 12:06, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB a ?crit?:
> 
> The new amateur payload DOSAAF 85 appears to work very well.
> Doppler measurements confirm that it is indeed object 44909,
> 2019-096E. The satellite identifies itself as "RS44" (i.e. Radio
> Sputnik 44) on its CW beacon on 435.6043 kHz. The passband is
> about 63 kHz wide. It may also have a downlink between 2400 and
> 2485 MHz. The frequencies of RS44/DOSAAF 85 have not been IARU
> coordinated. The satellite is in an elliptical orbit with a perigee of
> 1175 km, an apogee of 1511 km and an inclination of 82.5 degrees.
> 
> The payload is apparently attached to the Breeze-KM upper stage of
> a Rokot launch vehicle that launched three Gonets satellites on
> December 26, 2019. It was originally expected to launch in 2015.
> It is based on the Yubileiniy platform.
> 
> For details, see https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm 
> <https://t.co/CCuN4HN8KI?amp=1>and
> http://spaceflight101.com/rockot-blasts-off-from-plesetsk-with-military-satellite-payloads/ 
> 
> 
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
> 
> On 30-04-2020 10:08, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Good day!
>> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for 
>> testing purposes.
>> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
>> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
>> BEACON 435605KHz
>> TLE:
>> 1 44909U 19096E?? 20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0? 9999
>> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
>> Try it!
>> -- 
>> 73! Igor, RW3XL
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From brennanprice at verizon.net  Thu Apr 30 14:02:29 2020
From: brennanprice at verizon.net (Brennan Price)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:02:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 15, Issue 133
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It's apparently inverting (yay!).

>From AMSAT-BB:

Message: 8

Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:08:25 +0300

From: Blinov Igor <rw3xl at yandex.ru>

To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>

Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation

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Good day!

Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.

UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz

DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz

BEACON 435605KHz

TLE:

1 44909U 19096E? 20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0? 9999

2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985

Try it!

--?

73! Igor, RW3XL

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Today's Topics:

? 1. Re: AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions (Loren M. Lang)
? 2. Re: AO-92 camera mode more info plse (Leffke, Zachary)
? 3. Re: AO-92 camera mode more info plse (Andrew Glasbrenner)
? 4. Re: AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions (Andrew Glasbrenner)
? 5. amsat-bb reader? (Douglas Tabor)
? 6. Re: AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions (Jerry Buxton)
? 7. Re: AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions (Ben Cook)
? 8. DOSAAF-85 transponder activation (Blinov Igor)
? 9. Re: D-Star One Sparrow (Don KB2YSI)
? 10. Re: DOSAAF-85 transponder activation (Nico Janssen)
? 11. Re: D-Star One Sparrow (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
? 12. D-Star One Sparrow (Roy Dean)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:53:56 -0700
From: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359 at gmail.com>
To: Glenn Miller - AA5PK <aa5pk at suddenlink.net>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
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Ok, that makes sense. So the repeated signal I heard was simply repeated
attempts at getting the command through and were being interfered with by
the existing FM transmissions. All of the frames I collected would have
actually been DUV and not the same as the sounds I heard. Did camera mode
ever get activated during that third pass?



On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 02:31 Glenn Miller - AA5PK <aa5pk at suddenlink.net>
wrote:

> What you heard was the command station attempting to send the command to
> AO-92 to activate the camera.
>
> Unfortunately, there were several stations trying to use the repeater at
> the time and blocking the commands being sent to
> AO-92.
>
> When the camera is active, the repeater is not available.
>
> Glenn
> AA5PK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:13 AM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
>
> I tried capturing some of the high-speed data from AO-92 today from the
> final 1750Z pass today when the camera was activated. I believe I had some
> success, but I am a little confused about what I captured. I did it in two
> stages using my phone to capture the raw IQ from my SDR during the pass and
> then playing it back on my computer right after into Foxtelem 108z5. The
> pass was only 16 degrees at it's peak, but I was able to hear the satellite
> down to as little as 6 degrees and Foxtelem reported 24 frames successfully
> decoded.
>
>


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:18:37 +0000
From: "Leffke, Zachary" <zleffke at vt.edu>
To: "AMSAT-BB at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse
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Hi Rob,
When in camera mode the VT camera follows the following basic sequence:? Snap a picture, check how much 'earth' is in the frame, if it meets the 'earth detection' threshold, compress it with JPEG algorithms, break up the result into smaller data frames (8 pixel lines) and send the frame to the flight computer.? If the 'earth detection' threshold is not met, the image is discarded and another one is taken, check if there is earth, rinse repeat.? There is no long term storage of any given image and the earth detection step is part of the NOAA license.? If an image is received by a station, it's a shot from roughly 'overhead', and the AMSAT page has a nifty feature that shows the subsatellite point based off timestamp information from each image downloaded.

I believe there is a 45 minute timer (roughly half of one orbit, the command folks can double check my number there) for the general 'camera mode' of the spacecraft (which is both 'high speed mode' and 'camera on'), with the command stations that start that process in NA.? After the timeout the spacecraft goes back into transponder mode (or safe mode, again command stations can correct me there).? So it might be tricky to pick up in New Zealand.? I know early on in the life of AO-92 there were some experiments to trigger camera mode right as the spacecraft set over the horizon (I believe on ascending passes) by command stations at higher latitudes so that the camera would be active and received by Japanese hams.? A similar experiment might work for descending passes and southerly command stations, but it would be smart to look at the footprint/ground track to see which pass might put New Zealand in the footprint within the timer window.

-Zach, KJ4QLP
-- 
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Aerospace & Ocean Systems Lab
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Rob Ramsey via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:39 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse

A little more info please on the camera mode of AO-92 , Is this just a real time transmission as the satellite is overhead or close by? is it stored and sent continuously for a predetermined time? I had my station on remote all day got nothing here in New Zealand ZL3TCM _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:25:49 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
To: "'Rob Ramsey'" <ramsey4 at xtra.co.nz>
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse
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Sorry, the images are real time and the camera is on a 45 minute timer to
satisfy one of our original NOAA imaging license requirements. We did get
some partial pics from Chile yesterday, but VK/ZL is likely too far for it
to remain on long enough to hear.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Rob Ramsey via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:39 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode more info plse

A little more info please on the camera mode of AO-92 , Is this just a real
time transmission as the satellite is overhead or close by? is it stored and
sent continuously for a predetermined time? I had my station on remote all
day got nothing here in New Zealand ZL3TCM
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:27:48 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
To: "'Loren M. Lang'" <penguin359 at gmail.com>,??? <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
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No, it didn't get activated the third pass.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Loren M. Lang via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:54 AM
To: Glenn Miller - AA5PK <aa5pk at suddenlink.net>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions

Ok, that makes sense. So the repeated signal I heard was simply repeated
attempts at getting the command through and were being interfered with by
the existing FM transmissions. All of the frames I collected would have
actually been DUV and not the same as the sounds I heard. Did camera mode
ever get activated during that third pass?







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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:33:23 -0600
From: Douglas Tabor <dtabor52 at gmail.com>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat-bb reader?
Message-ID: <4932CC24-506A-4295-880A-734436FDA649 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8

Does anyone know of an -bb ?reader? application that can be used with amsat-bb?

Back in the usenet days, there were reader clients that could parse entries to make them more human readable. Don?t really care if it?s Linux or MacOS based.

I browsed the amsat.org ?mailing lists and services? area and didn?t see any mention -or- is this another one of those things that are well known to those that know them well?

Many thanks.

N6UA, Douglas Tabor
dtabor52 at gmail.com





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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:56:25 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy at amsat.org>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
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Loren,

It is true that the DUV telemetry would continue uninterrupted, as long
as AO-92 was still in Transponder Mode.? As Drew confirmed the sat never
made it to Data Mode (the mode that enables the camera and high speed
data downlink) and if it had, the same DUV telemetry frames also come
down in the high speed data so you would continue to see them on FoxTelem.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 4/29/2020 08:53, Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> All of the frames I collected would have
> actually been DUV and not the same as the sounds I heard. Did camera mode
> ever get activated during that third pass?



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:58:04 -0500
From: "Ben Cook" <n6elf at nanoloop.io>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 High Speed Data decode questions
Message-ID: <21464113-FE29-4A5C-9C69-6FD27FD1445C at nanoloop.io>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed

As someone new to satellite operations, I?m finding out that it?s 
extremely helpful to not only check the AMSAT status page before an 
upcoming pass, but also check reports from AMSAT and others on twitter. 
That helps to cut down on the confusion around schedule or mode changes. 
For example, helps to know that AO-92 was put into L mode an hour before 
the next pass you?re planning to work. Just thoughts to myself this 
first week or so on the air.

73,
Ben - N6ELF


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:08:25 +0300
From: Blinov Igor <rw3xl at yandex.ru>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
Message-ID: <468221588233298 at mail.yandex.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Good day!
Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.
UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
BEACON 435605KHz
TLE:
1 44909U 19096E? 20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0? 9999
2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
Try it!
--?
73! Igor, RW3XL



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 07:28:12 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com>
To: kd4iz at frawg.org
Cc: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
Message-ID:
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The last I heard was that it was being launched and then no further
information was released afterwards. I take that as the bird is
non-operational.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 18:07 Jack Spitznagel via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Out of curiosity - what is the status of this bird? It shows up in the NASA
> orbital info, but not in the Amateur in the SatPC32 tracking selections.
>
> The German Orbital Systems site does not elaborate on some of the details.
> particularly if one wished to configure a D-Star rig and try it. With
> IC-9700's proliferating I would expect some noise if it is accessible.
>
>
>
> Any info or help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jack Spitznagel - KD4IZ
>
> Trustee for NR3DT
>
> The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:06:01 +0200
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>
To: Blinov Igor <rw3xl at yandex.ru>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
Message-ID: <d66462f9-424b-1252-0043-aa12023aabad at xs4all.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


The new amateur payload DOSAAF 85 appears to work very well.
Doppler measurements confirm that it is indeed object 44909,
2019-096E. The satellite identifies itself as "RS44" (i.e. Radio
Sputnik 44) on its CW beacon on 435.6043 kHz. The passband is
about 63 kHz wide. It may also have a downlink between 2400 and
2485 MHz. The frequencies of RS44/DOSAAF 85 have not been IARU
coordinated. The satellite is in an elliptical orbit with a perigee of
1175 km, an apogee of 1511 km and an inclination of 82.5 degrees.

The payload is apparently attached to the Breeze-KM upper stage of
a Rokot launch vehicle that launched three Gonets satellites on
December 26, 2019. It was originally expected to launch in 2015.
It is based on the Yubileiniy platform.

For details, see https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm 
<https://t.co/CCuN4HN8KI?amp=1>and
http://spaceflight101.com/rockot-blasts-off-from-plesetsk-with-military-satellite-payloads/

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 30-04-2020 10:08, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Good day!
> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.
> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> BEACON 435605KHz
> TLE:
> 1 44909U 19096E? 20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0? 9999
> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> Try it!
> -- 
> 73! Igor, RW3XL
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:17:24 +0100
From: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter at magicbug.co.uk>
To: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi at gmail.com>
Cc: Amsat <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Yeah asked for further details on DSTAR One group of satellites but
the operator doesn't reply to emails and no updates so guessing failed
mission.

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 12:30, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> The last I heard was that it was being launched and then no further
> information was released afterwards. I take that as the bird is
> non-operational.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 18:07 Jack Spitznagel via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Out of curiosity - what is the status of this bird? It shows up in the NASA
> > orbital info, but not in the Amateur in the SatPC32 tracking selections.
> >
> > The German Orbital Systems site does not elaborate on some of the details.
> > particularly if one wished to configure a D-Star rig and try it. With
> > IC-9700's proliferating I would expect some noise if it is accessible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any info or help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack Spitznagel - KD4IZ
> >
> > Trustee for NR3DT
> >
> > The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:43:25 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] D-Star One Sparrow
Message-ID:
??? <CADGPg2toHCoB2e0vGi_NGz5uoy0hoBMU3qJY=kA9NLsrmHVOEg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

>
> Yeah asked for further details on DSTAR One group of satellites but
> the operator doesn't reply to emails and no updates so guessing failed
> mission. Peter, 2M0SQL


There was ONE report of a successful D-Star qso not long after
commissioning.

Then the story faded into history......

--Roy
K3RLD


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From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Apr 30 14:10:41 2020
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:10:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <303fdea2-5905-b42c-266c-d9eb980dd06b@wanadoo.fr>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
	<d66462f9-424b-1252-0043-aa12023aabad@xs4all.nl>
	<303fdea2-5905-b42c-266c-d9eb980dd06b@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOr0WhnudUNmdTh0tAM062sP7VysDfbB_hdTN5ZaFbMR_w@mail.gmail.com>

RS-44 has been added to the AMSAT Linear Satellite Frequency Summary:
https://www.amsat.org/linear-satellite-frequency-summary/ and the AMSAT
satellite status page: https://www.amsat.org/status/

It should also be added to AMSAT's keps distribution by this evening, which
will update a number of tracking apps with the satellite and our own
website's satellite tracking page as well.

As per custom, we will use the satellite's Radio Sputnik number to identify
it, so it will be listed in AMSAT sources as RS-44.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:03 AM Jean-Pierre Godet via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>    Many, many thanks Nico for this valuable information.
>
>    Best 73,
>
>    J-P F5YG
>
> Le 30/04/2020 ? 12:06, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB a ?crit :
> >
> > The new amateur payload DOSAAF 85 appears to work very well.
> > Doppler measurements confirm that it is indeed object 44909,
> > 2019-096E. The satellite identifies itself as "RS44" (i.e. Radio
> > Sputnik 44) on its CW beacon on 435.6043 kHz. The passband is
> > about 63 kHz wide. It may also have a downlink between 2400 and
> > 2485 MHz. The frequencies of RS44/DOSAAF 85 have not been IARU
> > coordinated. The satellite is in an elliptical orbit with a perigee of
> > 1175 km, an apogee of 1511 km and an inclination of 82.5 degrees.
> >
> > The payload is apparently attached to the Breeze-KM upper stage of
> > a Rokot launch vehicle that launched three Gonets satellites on
> > December 26, 2019. It was originally expected to launch in 2015.
> > It is based on the Yubileiniy platform.
> >
> > For details, see https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm
> > <https://t.co/CCuN4HN8KI?amp=1>and
> >
> http://spaceflight101.com/rockot-blasts-off-from-plesetsk-with-military-satellite-payloads/
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Nico PA0DLO
> >
> > On 30-04-2020 10:08, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >> Good day!
> >> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for
> >> testing purposes.
> >> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> >> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> >> BEACON 435605KHz
> >> TLE:
> >> 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
> >> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> >> Try it!
> >> --
> >> 73! Igor, RW3XL
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> >> program!
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From pconver at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 15:17:35 2020
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:17:35 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOr0WhnudUNmdTh0tAM062sP7VysDfbB_hdTN5ZaFbMR_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
	<d66462f9-424b-1252-0043-aa12023aabad@xs4all.nl>
	<303fdea2-5905-b42c-266c-d9eb980dd06b@wanadoo.fr>
	<CABzOSOr0WhnudUNmdTh0tAM062sP7VysDfbB_hdTN5ZaFbMR_w@mail.gmail.com>
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RS-44 Passes & Freq http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=rs-44

Congrats and thanks! for a promising satellite !

73, lu7abf, Pedro

On 4/30/20, Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> RS-44 has been added to the AMSAT Linear Satellite Frequency Summary:
> https://www.amsat.org/linear-satellite-frequency-summary/ and the AMSAT
> satellite status page: https://www.amsat.org/status/
>
> It should also be added to AMSAT's keps distribution by this evening, which
> will update a number of tracking apps with the satellite and our own
> website's satellite tracking page as well.
>
> As per custom, we will use the satellite's Radio Sputnik number to identify
> it, so it will be listed in AMSAT sources as RS-44.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:03 AM Jean-Pierre Godet via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>>    Many, many thanks Nico for this valuable information.
>>
>>    Best 73,
>>
>>    J-P F5YG
>>
>> Le 30/04/2020 ? 12:06, Nico Janssen via AMSAT-BB a ?crit :
>> >
>> > The new amateur payload DOSAAF 85 appears to work very well.
>> > Doppler measurements confirm that it is indeed object 44909,
>> > 2019-096E. The satellite identifies itself as "RS44" (i.e. Radio
>> > Sputnik 44) on its CW beacon on 435.6043 kHz. The passband is
>> > about 63 kHz wide. It may also have a downlink between 2400 and
>> > 2485 MHz. The frequencies of RS44/DOSAAF 85 have not been IARU
>> > coordinated. The satellite is in an elliptical orbit with a perigee of
>> > 1175 km, an apogee of 1511 km and an inclination of 82.5 degrees.
>> >
>> > The payload is apparently attached to the Breeze-KM upper stage of
>> > a Rokot launch vehicle that launched three Gonets satellites on
>> > December 26, 2019. It was originally expected to launch in 2015.
>> > It is based on the Yubileiniy platform.
>> >
>> > For details, see https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm
>> > <https://t.co/CCuN4HN8KI?amp=1>and
>> >
>> http://spaceflight101.com/rockot-blasts-off-from-plesetsk-with-military-satellite-payloads/
>> >
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Nico PA0DLO
>> >
>> > On 30-04-2020 10:08, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> >> Good day!
>> >> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for
>> >> testing purposes.
>> >> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
>> >> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
>> >> BEACON 435605KHz
>> >> TLE:
>> >> 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
>> >> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
>> >> Try it!
>> >> --
>> >> 73! Igor, RW3XL
>> >>
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From pgprendergast at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 30 15:25:00 2020
From: pgprendergast at yahoo.com (Peter)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:25:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF in HRD?
References: <509698568.271770.1588260300379.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <509698568.271770.1588260300379@mail.yahoo.com>

Can't track RS 44 because its no in the keplerian elements yet.No way to manually load the TLE into HRD either.Is their a way to get it into HRD so I can use it to track or at?least is their a way I can find out when it will be in my area and alt az data?ThanksPeterW2PP

From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 16:22:09 2020
From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan al-Basri)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:22:09 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF in HRD?
In-Reply-To: <509698568.271770.1588260300379@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <509698568.271770.1588260300379.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<509698568.271770.1588260300379@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAM4UQf28ffKxcurVL7q9jd8=6zjs9_AY1uZx=4Xe78qtLQmRPg@mail.gmail.com>

http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=rs-44#top

Put in your own grid square at the bottom
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:09 AM Peter via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Can't track RS 44 because its no in the keplerian elements yet.No way to
> manually load the TLE into HRD either.Is their a way to get it into HRD so
> I can use it to track or at least is their a way I can find out when it
> will be in my area and alt az data?ThanksPeterW2PP
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From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Thu Apr 30 16:23:16 2020
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:23:16 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF in HRD?
In-Reply-To: <509698568.271770.1588260300379@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <509698568.271770.1588260300379.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<509698568.271770.1588260300379@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLAPR22MB2115852634AED8975A1D99B887AA0@BLAPR22MB2115.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

I just added

RS-44
1 44909U 19096E   20121.19801016  .00000010  00000-0  00000+0 0  9993
2 44909  82.5240  27.3787 0217431 339.6534  19.6000 12.79706684 16018

to nasabare.txt on the AMSAT Web and FTP sites, if you can update HRD from there you should be good to go.


https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt


de KM1P Joe

________________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of Peter via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:25 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF in HRD?

Can't track RS 44 because its no in the keplerian elements yet.No way to manually load the TLE into HRD either.Is their a way to get it into HRD so I can use it to track or at least is their a way I can find out when it will be in my area and alt az data?ThanksPeterW2PP
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From aj9n at aol.com  Thu Apr 30 17:46:59 2020
From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:46:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-30 17:30
	UTC
References: <1777230049.1978338.1588268819638.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1777230049.1978338.1588268819638@mail.yahoo.com>


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-04-30 17:30 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Northern Virginia Schools Group, Woodbridge VA, Multi-point telebridge via AB1OC 

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR 

Contact was successful: Thu 2020-04-30 13:35:00 UTC 62 deg (***)

?

Watch for live stream at: https://youtu.be/Cu8I9ose4Vo

?

A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home.

?

?

*************************************************

?

Looking for some stay at home activities related to science and for when you are not playing on your radio?? Check out these links:?? 

?

?

>From ARISS Vice Chair Oliver Amend DG6BCE: ESA Astronauts to offer inspiration during isolation in?????  #SpaceConnectsUs

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Astronauts_to_offer_inspiration_during_isolation_in_SpaceConnectsU

?

Celestron, the telescope, microscope, and sports optics folks, now has something called #STEMINYOURBACKYARD that you can find on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.? By the way, I don't work for Celestron or have any business dealings with them and this is just something I saw.? Apparently there are 10 free STEM activities covering Astronomy, Nature and Wildlife, and The Microscopic World.? Check out:? https://www.celestron.com/blogs/news/discover-stem-in-your-backyard 

?

NASA has a STEM page with fun activities to do at home.? Check out https://www.nasa.gov/stem 

?

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? 

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? 

?

Postponed:

No additional schools (***)

?

Cancelled:

No additional schools (***)

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own 

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 

time. 

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-04-30 17:30 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and 

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and 

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf 

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt 

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-04-30 17:30 UTC. (***)

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf 

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States) 

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

********************************************************************************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

*******************************************************************************


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? 

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? 

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: 

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 

Sergey RV3DR with 133 

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date 

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional 

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1388. (***)

Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? 

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1321. (***) 

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. 

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the 

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit 

Welcome aboard! 

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

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73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

?

?

?

?

?



From documike at comcast.net  Thu Apr 30 18:56:01 2020
From: documike at comcast.net (Mike Lucas)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:56:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anybody Hear RS-44?
Message-ID: <004c01d61f20$fe63dba0$fb2b92e0$@comcast.net>

Listened for the Beacon & Transp freqs this last pass, heard nothing.
Anybody else hear anything yet?

Mike N7ASZ


From pconver at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 19:15:49 2020
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:15:49 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anybody Hear RS-44?
In-Reply-To: <004c01d61f20$fe63dba0$fb2b92e0$@comcast.net>
References: <004c01d61f20$fe63dba0$fb2b92e0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKkwTKYMVNzm8x+nFV5z=7QY1AXsMyCN4fa8G1Yzq0VQyQ@mail.gmail.com>

In  South Am?rica plenty QSOs, on midday pass today, excellent bird. Pases
& Freqs on http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=rs-44

73, lu7abf, Pedro

El jue., 30 de abril de 2020 15:58, Mike Lucas via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> escribi?:

> Listened for the Beacon & Transp freqs this last pass, heard nothing.
> Anybody else hear anything yet?
>
> Mike N7ASZ
>
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From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Thu Apr 30 20:54:48 2020
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:54:48 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <20200430205448.GB7101@debian>

 11:08 Thu 30 Apr 20  , Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Good day!
> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing purposes.
> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> BEACON 435605KHz
> TLE:
> 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> Try it!

Great sat!

I suffer for linear pol antenna (I'm going to build new cp yefa
when I'll be able to get alluminium, after lockdown) but I've
completed qso with 2M0SQL, R9LR (3900km) and DJ8MSD.

RS44 has an orbit similar to AO-7, operating mode like FO-29 but stronger
signal, what more? :-)

73, Lapo IK5NAX

From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Thu Apr 30 21:11:21 2020
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 18:11:21 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <CAAy53m6W=ZBrZCUfkXoezoj=1KqJDo0B+8T6M-taOV20oM4A=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
Here my reception of DOSAAF-85 ( 5 minutes only). The audio quality is very
good!
Thank you to all involved.

https://youtu.be/PScphMsPEcM

73

Em qui., 30 de abr. de 2020 ?s 05:17, Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> escreveu:

> Good day!
> Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for testing
> purposes.
> UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> BEACON 435605KHz
> TLE:
> 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
> 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> Try it!
> --
> 73! Igor, RW3XL
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From kb2ysi at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 23:35:42 2020
From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 19:35:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
In-Reply-To: <20200430205448.GB7101@debian>
References: <468221588233298@mail.yandex.ru> <20200430205448.GB7101@debian>
Message-ID: <CAAJiE8NjiunYSyoObER1YNokL3a-aaNYijFipUTL77kAMcBnJA@mail.gmail.com>

Does this mean it will be in orbit for quite a while?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 17:04 Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

>  11:08 Thu 30 Apr 20  , Blinov Igor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Good day!
> > Satellite DOSAAF-85 turn on transponder (linear, inverting) on for
> testing purposes.
> > UPLink 145965KHz +/-30 KHz
> > DOWNLink 435640KHz +/-30 KHz
> > BEACON 435605KHz
> > TLE:
> > 1 44909U 19096E   20120.96346743 +.00000010 +00000-0 +00000-0 0  9999
> > 2 44909 082.5239 027.5343 0217449 340.2089 019.0669 12.79706663015985
> > Try it!
>
> Great sat!
>
> I suffer for linear pol antenna (I'm going to build new cp yefa
> when I'll be able to get alluminium, after lockdown) but I've
> completed qso with 2M0SQL, R9LR (3900km) and DJ8MSD.
>
> RS44 has an orbit similar to AO-7, operating mode like FO-29 but stronger
> signal, what more? :-)
>
> 73, Lapo IK5NAX
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From ik5nax at radioteknos.it  Thu Apr 30 23:52:03 2020
From: ik5nax at radioteknos.it (Lapo Pieri)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 01:52:03 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85 transponder activation
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 19:35 Thu 30 Apr 20  , Don KB2YSI wrote:
> Does this mean it will be in orbit for quite a while?

I think so. It's a satellite with a large passband, many qso at a time.
I don't know about primary payload... let's hope well.

73, Lapo IK5NAX