[amsat-bb] what is a good contact?

[Ron VE8RT]

Thank you Sean,

  I can, and will, work with this.  As I can have the mental equivalent
of stuttering, I know what I want to say but it comes out wrong -
usually skips ahead leaving out or substituting information, I didn't
feel that my shortcoming was fair to the other station(s).

   Ron VE8RT

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
"Sean K." <kx9x at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have no issue with recording a pass. I do so regularly, and out of practicality: as a portable operator, I have one hand holding my antenna and the other adjusting my VFO to correct for Doppler. 
> I use my recorder as mu log. But I also use it to help me verify my contacts. If I don't complete a QSO with both parties saying "yes, I heard your info," it's not a valid contact to me.
> Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer 
> 
>     On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 08:13:49 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca> wrote:  
>  
>    I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways.  That of
> using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
> after the contact.  In the examples the grid square is read back and
> acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
> especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
> It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
> processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
> contact.  If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
> the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
> I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
> tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).
> 
>   Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
> to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
> stations on that pass?
> 
>       Ron VE8RT  DP22
> 
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
> Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> > During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it’s not just the exchange of information that makes a contact “legitimate,” it’s acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here’s an example:
> > 
> > KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> > W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> > KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> > W1AW: QSL, FN31
> > KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> > 
> > That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge receiving the other station’s report. That’s what makes the contact “good.”
> > 
> > Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> > 
> > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>  Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >>  Ron VE8RT
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> > > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > > 
> > > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.  I believe
> > > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > > awards that go with grid collection.
> > > 
> > > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > > the pass) is totally legit.  Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> > > miles away - not so much.  I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > > 
> > > --Roy
> > > K3RLD
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> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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