[amsat-bb] Who Let THIS Info Out?

David Swanson dave at druidnetworks.com
Fri Aug 7 22:53:17 UTC 2020


I can't post a link Bruce, you've blocked me on twitter. Just like Michelle
blocked me last year and swears she didn't, or it must have been a twitter
bug or something. Now I'm being accused of faking screenshots. When it
comes to you and your party up is down, left is right, and Oceania has
always been at war with Eastasia. Keep repeating your lies enough, and the
plebes will fall in line. Orwell would be so proud.

-Dave, KG5CCI

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 5:42 PM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:

> I haven't been deleting tweets, so send the URLs. Screenshots are easy to
> fake.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 3:36 PM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Man I was hoping you'd deny this one.
>>
>> July 19, 2019 @bruceperens "Or, Mark, would you like to discuss this issue
>> before a fair legal expert? Courts have judges whose job it is to enforce
>> by-laws of corporations. I think you should back down and admit fault
>> before you are in a lot more hot water".
>>
>> I can post screenshots if you'd like, but the thread doesn't get much
>> better from there.
>>
>> -Dave, KG5CCI
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I made "numerous legal threats"? I don't think so.
>> >
>> > Given what a tremendous whopper that one is, I can't attach any
>> > credibility to the rest of your statement, except for one thing:
>> >
>> > It is true that Michelle and Patrick, and for that matter I, feel that
>> > AMSAT's NDAs prevent it from being able to achieve a workable ITAR
>> strategy.
>> >
>> > You simply can't use the ITAR 120.11 and EAR 734.7 carve-outs AND have
>> > secret or proprietary portions of any technology listed under the United
>> > States Munitions List. Once there is secret or proprietary technology,
>> all
>> > of the nasty restrictions of ITAR are unavoidable.
>> >
>> > It is possible to deal with secrets outside of the technology, such as
>> > launch schedules, and it is possible to compartmentalize some
>> > ITAR-protected information, for example technology specific to the
>> launch
>> > which is not necessary for broader cooperations  such as designing and
>> > constructing a satellite.
>> >
>> > Thus it is necessary for AMSAT to examine all existing NDAs, separate
>> > itself from ones that are no longer necessary, and carefully
>> > compartmentalize any which need to stand for the moment. Michelle and
>> > Patrick attempted to initiate this process, but have been blocked.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> >
>> >
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