[amsat-bb] Open Source Satellite Work Determined to be Free of ITAR

Wed Aug 19 03:27:27 UTC 2020

The application made it plain that our intent was to make the entire
satellite design and software Open Source.

It is interesting to note that the government form actually asks if you
have any Open Source software in the product.

I will leave it to ORI to decide whom to show the application. I have a
copy, but no permission to disclose it.

    Thanks

    Bruce

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:25 PM Rich Gopstein <rich at ourowndomain.com> wrote:

> The finding said nothing about open-source, so I don't understand how you
> can claim this is a win for open-source.
>
> BTW -  I'd be thrilled if this did say something about the use of
> open-source and ITAR, but it doesn't.
>
> Rich
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 9:56 PM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
>
>> We have the actual ITAR rules to tell us about the public knowledge
>> carve-out. We will receive further confirmation when we get a finding from
>> Department of Commerce, and of course every time a project asks for such a
>> finding there will be further confirmation. I don't think it will be
>> necessary to make as few assumptions as you did in your company.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 17:21 Rich Gopstein <rich at ourowndomain.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> Understood, however, the finding is very narrowly scoped - it only says
>>> that your system is not covered by ITAR.  It doesn't say why.  You believe
>>> it's related to the open-source nature of your system, however the finding *doesn't
>>> say that.*
>>>
>>> I worked for 28+ years in a field that was regulated by the US
>>> government.  We on occasion also asked for findings on various things.  We
>>> were NEVER allowed to make assumptions about the finding.  You could only
>>> go by what the finding said.  And in your case, it's only that your system
>>> is not covered by ITAR - nothing about *why* it's not covered. Because
>>> of that, you can't generalize about other systems being covered or not.  It
>>> may seem illogical, but that's the way the US regulatory system works.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 6:18 PM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rich,
>>>>
>>>> The most important thing here is that the DoD finding is *not
>>>> permission* - it is a finding that your project wasn't *ever* subject
>>>> to ITAR. This is thus useful to other projects that use the same Open
>>>> Source strategy.
>>>>
>>>> A finding is useful for risk-reduction, in that you can wave it at the
>>>> court and annoying FBI folks (they have harassed AMSAT developers in the
>>>> past) and you can use this one as a precedent if you are making a request
>>>> for another program in which you use the same strategies.
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks
>>>>
>>>>     Bruce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 2:59 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michelle,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's great news, but isn't that ruling only applicable to the
>>>>> specific
>>>>> system that you asked about (digital microwave broadband...)?  It's
>>>>> not a
>>>>> general finding that applies to anything else, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich, KD2CQ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 12:24 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
>>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Open Source Satellite Work Determined to be Free of ITAR
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://openresearch.institute/2020/08/18/cj-determination-open-source-satellite-work-is-free-of-itar/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The United States Department of State has ruled favorably on Open
>>>>> Research
>>>>> > Institute's commodity jurisdiction request, finding that specified
>>>>> > “Information and Software for a Digital Microwave Broadband
>>>>> Communications
>>>>> > System for Space and Terrestrial Amateur Radio Use” is definitely not
>>>>> > subject to State Department jurisdiction under ITAR, the
>>>>> International
>>>>> > Traffic in Arms Regulations. This is an important step toward
>>>>> reducing the
>>>>> > burden of regulations restricting international cooperation on
>>>>> amateur
>>>>> > satellite projects, which have impeded engineering work by amateurs
>>>>> in the
>>>>> > United States for decades.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Export regulations divide both technical information and actual
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> > into three categories. The most heavily restricted technologies fall
>>>>> under
>>>>> > ITAR, which is administered by the State Department. Technologies
>>>>> subject
>>>>> > to more routine restrictions fall under EAR, the Export
>>>>> Administration
>>>>> > Regulations, administered by the Department of Commerce.
>>>>> Technologies that
>>>>> > are not subject to either set of regulations are not restricted for
>>>>> export.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 20 February 2020, Open Research Institute (ORI) filed a Commodity
>>>>> > Jurisdiction (CJ) Request with the US State Department, seeking to
>>>>> > establish that key technologies for amateur radio are not subject to
>>>>> State
>>>>> > Department jurisdiction. “Information and Software for a Digital
>>>>> Microwave
>>>>> > Broadband Communications System for Space and Terrestrial Amateur
>>>>> Radio
>>>>> > Use” was assigned the case number CJ0003120. On 11 August 2020, the
>>>>> case
>>>>> > received a successful final determination: the technology is not
>>>>> subject to
>>>>> > State Department jurisdiction. This is the best possible outcome of
>>>>> a CJ
>>>>> > request.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Final Determination letter can be found at
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://openresearch.institute/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/CJ-0003120-Final-Determination-Letter.pdf
>>>>> > .
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Under this determination, the technologies are subject to the EAR.
>>>>> The next
>>>>> > step is to submit a classification request to the Commerce
>>>>> Department. ORI
>>>>> > anticipates that the Commerce Department will find that these
>>>>> technologies
>>>>> > are unrestricted under the carve-out for open source in the EAR.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Open Research Institute (ORI) is a non-profit research and
>>>>> development
>>>>> > organization which provides all of its work to the general public
>>>>> under the
>>>>> > principles of Open Source and Open Access to Research.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This work was accomplished by a team of dedicated and competent open
>>>>> source
>>>>> > volunteers. The effort was initiated by Bruce Perens K6BP and lead by
>>>>> > Michelle Thompson W5NYV.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Open Research Institute developed the ideas behind the Commodity
>>>>> > Jurisdiction request, hired Thomsen and Burke LLP (https://t-b.com/)
>>>>> for
>>>>> > expert legal advice, organized the revisions of the document, and
>>>>> invited
>>>>> > organizations and individuals with amateur satellite service
>>>>> interests to
>>>>> > join or support the request.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ORI thanks Libre Space Foundation and Dr. Daniel Estevez for
>>>>> providing
>>>>> > their subject matter expertise and written testimony, and JAMSAT for
>>>>> > helpful encouragement and support.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The legal costs were fully reimbursed with a generous grant from
>>>>> Amateur
>>>>> > Radio Digital Communications (ARDC). See
>>>>> > https://www.ampr.org/grants/grant-open-research-institute/.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ARDC and ORI share a vision of clearly establishing open source as
>>>>> the best
>>>>> > and safest way to accomplish technical volunteer work in amateur
>>>>> radio.
>>>>> > This final determination letter provides solid support for that
>>>>> vision. The
>>>>> > determination enables the development of implementation guidelines
>>>>> that
>>>>> > will allow free international collaboration.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This clears the path for a number of interesting projects
>>>>> facilitating new
>>>>> > methods for terrestrial and satellite communications, opening the
>>>>> door to
>>>>> > robust global digital amateur communications.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Questions and inquiries to ori at openresearch.institute
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Perens - CEO at stealth startup. I'll tell you what it is
>>>> eventually :-)
>>>>
>>>

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