OK getting into a LEO orbit isn't all that hard. How about a mission of a Nice linear bird, But why not add Musk's ION engine to it, and just let it burn till it eventually gets into a HEO orbit or GEO orbit. even if it takes years to get there who cares? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com