[amsat-bb] AMSAT Member Mailing list

[Kevin]

Bruce,
    So hang on a moment, you're telling me that the candidates are 
allowed to use the mailing list for their campaign (fine), but rather 
than them doing it themselves they turned the task over to you? So you 
were in possession of the mailing list and then you turned it over to 
the bulk mailing center when you authored the mailer?

Kevin WA7FWF #19623







On 7/12/2020 9:08 PM, Bruce Perens wrote:
> The candidates are allowed the use of the mailing list for their 
> campaign. If you read the bylaws, they make it very clear. One of the 
> candidates did all of the handling of the mailing list.
>
> Incidentally, the board was not aware that they had to give the 
> mailing list to the candidates. This was something the candidates had 
> to tell them, after I read the bylaws. Had the board run things the 
> way they desired, only a board controlled 200 word statement would 
> have reached you from the candidates, except for the incumbents, who 
> have had free use of AMSAT's official publications to carry their 
> opinions.
>
> In a more perfect world, the board would have known their own bylaws, 
> or at least the secretary who was running the election would have read 
> them.
>
> But in a more perfect world, two people were trying to reform the 
> organization with not face quite this uphill a battle.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 9:00 PM Kevin <wa7fwf at gmail.com 
> <mailto:wa7fwf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Well how did the bulk mailing company get the AMSAT member mailing
>     list if AMSAT did not provide it?
>
>     Kevin
>
>
>     On 7/12/2020 8:32 PM, Bruce Perens wrote:
>>     The mailing list was never compromised. But my HOME address,
>>     under "Open Research Institute" was used as the return address.
>>     This was a mistake and I didn't ask for it. I was, however, the
>>     author of the mailer, in which I introduced the candidates. The
>>     mailing was done by a bulk Mail company and did not involve me. I
>>     got one returned letter, informed someone responsible who had a
>>     right to see that address, and promptly forgot it.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Bruce
>>
>>     On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 7:11 PM Kevin via AMSAT-BB
>>     <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
>>
>>           Hello All,
>>
>>            In a previous email to the BB I posted the link to the
>>         letter we all
>>         received as members.
>>
>>         https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/20200710_AMSAT_Leadership_Explains_Legal_Expenses.pdf
>>
>>         I was re-reading it and something caught my eye that I had
>>         missed before.
>>
>>         "AMSAT did not provide a copy of its membership mailing
>>         addresses to
>>         Open Research Institute."
>>
>>             Just how was our mailing list compromised? This seems
>>         like a serious
>>         breech of security, was this a hack? was any other
>>         information lost?
>>         was it ever found out how it happened? is our mailing list as
>>         they say
>>         "out in the wind"?
>>
>>         Michelle could you possibly check from the ORI side and
>>         backtrack how
>>         ORI came into possession of the AMSAT mailing list, was it
>>         something
>>         that was procured online?
>>
>>         AMSAT needs to follow up on this privacy issue and report
>>         back what it
>>         found and any steps that were taken to prevent this from
>>         happening in
>>         the future.
>>
>>
>>         I look forward to an answer
>>
>>         73 Kevin WA7FWF #19623
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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