[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Bruce Perens]

Paul,

Roberts Rules are regarding parliamentary procedure. AMSAT's bylaws are at
https://www.amsat.org/bylaws-of-the-radio-amateur-satellite-corporation/ .
They do not specify parliamentary procedure. They are about
responsibilities of a director, elections, etc. And if you have the choice,
Roberts is an antique, good parliamentarians use Sturgis.

Bruce

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 9:12 PM Paul F. Merrill via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I agree that this mailing list has strayed from its strongest contribution:
> satellite information, discussion, and mentoring.
>
> I come from, and have been on the BOD of, a professional organization for a
> number of years now.
>
> FWIW, I know too well that an organization often lawyers up to protect
> itself, and in our issues, our attorney was engaged to act solely on behalf
> of the Organization and not necessarily current management.
>
> This thread has turned in to a long, ugly diatribe filled with accusations,
> counter-accusations, and painfully-obvious shills.  I am a recently-renewed
> member who doesn’t have a dog in the fight, so I just want what’s best for
> AMSAT.
>
> Sadly, the stereotypes are starting to show - the members who contribute
> nothing but want to tear down those “In power,” the members who contribute
> nothing and don’t want anyone to make waves, and the few who actually do
> anything.  As a number of people have commented, working in a non-profit or
> unpaid leadership role is utterly thankless, which is lost on many people -
> especially those who have never labored in this sort of endeavor.
>
> My favorite story from our times of trouble is when our Parliamentarian
> said, “Roberts Rules are the last refuge of a scoundrel.  Grown men and
> women should be able to comport themselves reasonably...but then I’d be out
> of a job.”   I’m taking a little license with his exact words, but the
> sentiment, along with my experience, formed my native distrust of those who
> are right and everyone and everything before them is wrong.  So...there’s
> my bias.  I will examine that, and all the information I can before I
> vote.  I hope everyone else will take the time and expend the effort to
> vote as intelligently as they can.
>
> My overriding guidance to my Association is that we contribute to the group
> so that we all benefit from the group.  A strong organization should
> outlive us.
>
> Personally, I can’t wait to vote and hopefully put a fork in this.
>
> Paul / W7IV
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:27:24 -0700
> From: "Daron Wilson" <daron at wilson.org>
> To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
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> Is there a bulletin board that discusses amateur radio satellites
> operations still?   Asking for a friend.  This is getting old.
>
>
> Daron N7HQR
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