[amsat-bb] Brief summary of the "unauthorized expenses" claim

[Jeff Moore]

IF the BoD approved the expenses, why isn't that reflected in OFFICIAL
documentation???

Seems to me the incumbents are playing fast and loose with the facts
here!!!!

3 rd party investigation is called for to get at the REAL truth!   Then let
the chips fall where they may!

7   3
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY


On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:15 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> Let me clarify:
>
> I said "the board said the expenses were authorized."
>
> I didn't say "the board directly authorized the expenses"
>
> The implication is that the officers authorized the expenses and the board
> was OK with that.  And since it's up to the board to decide what the
> officers can or can't authorize, the fact that they said that the expenses
> were authorized should be sufficient.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:46 PM Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > But even in your own evaluation there are contradictions.
> >
> > Quote from your email: "If an expense went to the board for approval, it
> > would show up in the
> >   minutes of that board meeting."
> >
> > Further down your email: "- In this case, the members of the AMSAT board
> > at the time said that the
> >   expenses were authorized."
> >
> >
> > Then, by your own evaluation of the by-laws, if the members of the board
> > authorized the expenditures (second quote), shouldn't that authorization
> > show up in the minutes of the board meeting? (first quote)
> >
> > Steve AI9IN
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org)
> > Date: 07/13/20 15:25
> > To: Amsat - BBs (AMSAT-BB at amsat.org)
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Brief summary of the "unauthorized expenses" claim
> >
> > First: I'm not a lawyer.  These are my observations only.
> >
> > This is what I learned over the past few days while researching the claim
> > that the AMSAT money spent on legal services related to the new directors
> > was "unauthorized".
> >
> >   - I read the AMSAT bylaws.  They are very readable, BTW - and not long.
> >   - The bylaws say that expenses can be authorized either by the board
> >   itself or by the officers of AMSAT if the board delegates that
> authority.
> >   - If an expense went to the board for approval, it would show up in the
> >   minutes of that board meeting.
> >   - If an expense were authorized by an officer, then it wouldn't show up
> >   in the minutes of a board meeting.
> >   - The claim that the expenses were unauthorized was based on the
> >   observation that there was no record in the board meeting minutes of
> the
> >   authorization.  However, as mentioned above, not everything has to go
> to
> >   the board for approval.  And that decision is up to the board itself.
> >   - In this case, the members of the AMSAT board at the time said that
> the
> >   expenses were authorized.
> >   - Since the board has the authority to authorize expenditures (directly
> >   or indirectly) and they say the expenses were authorized, that
> indicates
> > to
> >   me that the expenses were authorized.
> >
> > Note: Michelle and Patrick were not members of the board when this
> > happened.  They were analyzing this after the fact.
> >
> > Rich
> > KD2CQ
> > AMSAT Life Member
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