[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Chad KG0MW]

I won’t walk away. I will be here to support what I believe AMSAT has always and will stand for.


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From: Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls at gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 11:40 PM
To: Chad KG0MW <chad.kg0mw at gmail.com>
Cc: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster at gmail.com>, Brad Smith <corlissbs at aol.com>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read

Sure Chad,

I'll consider supporting Amsat again as soon as this mess is cleaned up and everyone is satisfied with the outcome, whichever way it goes.
Ken, VE3HLS
So Phisai, Thailand
Blog:  bueng-ken.com<http://bueng-ken.com>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 08:58 Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
Joseph you are right. As much as the BoD needs to promote AMSAT, we as members need to stand up promote AMSAT and show our support. The more support we show, hopefully the sooner we can get back to actual constructive conversation.

Chad


On 7/12/20, 4:22 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> on behalf of amsat-bb at amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:

    Brad,

    What transparency and progress has been brought to the organization
    from the members that you speak of?  Specifically?  It appears that
    since they were voted in, everyone in the organization is now walking
    on egg-shells. The BB is now plastered with emails asking which words
    mean what feelings, name calling and chasing after the organization
    using whatever legal means the wizards-of-smart can conjure up all in
    the name of almighty, all-righeous, '''transparency'''. It all seems
    rather insincere and unproductive to me.  People like this should do
    the organization a favor, and leave, run their own competing
    organization and take whatever people and dollars happen to follow
    them.

    I would honestly like to return to the ARISSat-1 days, where it was
    just full-speed-ahead engineering and not all this talk all about
    'saving AMSAT' and ORI garbage.  All this ORI promotion on the BB, is
    absolute garbage.  No rational AMSAT member should be OK with that,
    especially from an AMSAT BOD member.  ORI is a separate, competing
    organization and their bylaws are..... telling.  If AMSATs bylaws were
    ever amended to be anything like those, you can kiss your membership
    goodbye, ref: https://openresearch.institute/organization-documents.
    Their bylaws literally say "Membership shall consist of the Board of
    Directors.".  Quite an Open organization, indeed!

    But I digress... The more of these kinds of people you vote in, the
    more the organization is going to be hurt, guaranteed. Because not
    only is nothing going to get done, obviously some people don't want to
    work with them for whatever-reasons and THAT actually is important.
    And, the reasons are important too.  Have you wondered why...?  I do!
    As a small business owner, when I hear such-and-such doesn't want to
    work with so-and-so, I immediately want to ask "What happened"?  From
    what the email traffic looks like, it seems like you may have to worry
    about legal action for everything you say or do around them or, maybe
    there was some pre-election history that most of the people that voted
    for them, didn't know about.  I have no clue, but this all does make
    me wonder.

    Either way, it seems like the state of things right now is Much Worst
    than it was prior-to the last election, so... Not sure why anyone
    would want more of this.  For me, the socio-political environment is
    just as important as the engi-nerding portion..  At the very least,
    BOD members need to be promoting the organization they are on the
    board of and noone should have to worry about legal retaliation over
    every little thing.

    Joseph Armbruster
    KJ4JIO

    On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 3:58 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
    <amsat-bb at amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:
    >
    > If you care about the AMSAT organization continuing to help hams in space communications, please read and reread Patrick's and Michelle's explanations.  They layout exactly what happened. Now we learn that the expenditure is over 16k. That is 363 memberships, if this retired engineer's math is correct. This is money wasted to beat down two members who want transparency and progress. This was not right. Our money was wasted! I am anxious for the election.
    >
    > Again, I ask that members do not resign over this. That helps nobody and hurts out hobby, which has already taken a huge hit. Solve this with your voting privilege.
    >
    > 73 Brad KC9UQR
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