[amsat-bb] My Ballot arrived - Now what? Something to consider.

[Alan]

Michelle,

Thanks for confirming my hypothesis on your tactics and actual motivations.  A lightning response consisting of a dense smokescreen, or perhaps heavy flack, means I am over the target.  :)

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


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You can fool some of the people all of the time, 
all of the people some of the time, and that is usually sufficient.






<-----Original Message-----
<From: Michelle Thompson [mailto:mountain.michelle at gmail.com]
<Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:07 AM
<To: APBIDDLE at mailaps.org; Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com>
<Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] My Ballot arrived - Now what? Something to consider.
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<That is true.
<
<It’s a classic hostile takeover when the doors are locked against a minority of the Directors,
<and when company assets are used for personal reasons.
<
<I add that secretly hiring lawyers to harass and obstruct elected leaders isn’t a hostile
<takeover. It’s just plain hostile.
<
<Lying about it and trying to cover it up is offensive.
<
<Unlike other things that we do, this isn’t rocket science.
<
<A stagnant board majority that freaks out and refuses to meet is not an asset to the
<corporation.
<
<Thanks to Alan for highlighting this aspect.
<
<-Michelle W5NYV
<
<On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 03:43 Alan via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-
<bb at amsat.org> > wrote:
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<
<	John,
<
<	It is more accurate to think of it as an attempted hostile takeover rather
<	than a civil war, even though it is driven by ego and ideology rather than
<	money. That is important when understanding the tools being used, and in
<	looking at the range of possible resolutions. They are somewhat different in
<	the two cases.
<
<	73,
<
<	Alan
<	WA4SCA
<
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<	<
<	<One of my ham radio friends asked me a few weeks ago, "What is going on
<	<with AMSAT?" It's nothing short of an all out civil war. And it is
<	<nasty and it's tearing us apart.
<	<
<	<With so many posts and so many twists and turns, it is hard to determine
<	<the root cause of the War. You have to stand way back to have any
<	<chance of finding out. If you take the time, the real issues becomes
<	<clear.
<	<
<	<The War on the amsat-bb seemed to subside a few days ago when members
<	<started talking about the ballots they were receiving in the mail.
<	<Maybe the thought was, if I just cast my vote, the problem will go away.
<	< Nothing could be farther from the truth. Patrick and Michelle are not
<	<on the ballot and they will still be on the Board after the election is
<	<over.
<	<
<	<My ballot and the candidate's statements arrived yesterday. And so did
<	<the oversize postcard sent out by 3 of the candidates. I read the
<	<statements and have been reading the candidate's comments on other
<	<social media platforms. Some of the candidates talked about some of
<	<the War issues. Some said they would like to see regular Board
<	<meetings. One candidate posted that he would cast the third vote
<	<required to demand General Board meetings be held regularly! That's
<	<about as bold as it gets in the candidate's statements. The same person
<	<promised to do some other things as well if elected; some helpful and
<	<some not, in my opinion. But at least he said them..
<	<
<	<A while back, a member made a post about who he would vote for. He
<	<documented everyone's credentials, experience, past efforts with AMSAT
<	<along with comments about personal interactions, if any. Those are good
<	<things to consider. But what about the future? What issues does the
<	<candidate deem important and how does he or she plan to deal with them?
<	<
<	<To me. the most important issue for AMSAT is to find a way to bring our
<	<Civil War to an end. And that would include negotiating an agreement
<	<with all parties that will restore civility and respect for all members,
<	<a culture that is open to all ideas regardless of who is suggesting
<	<them, as much transparency as the law permits along with fiscal
<	<responsibility and accountability. For the past week I've pondered how
<	<to do this and came up with a plan that has a chance of working. But
<	<I'm not running for a Board position (and never will) so I will defer to
<	<the candidates to come up with their own ideas.
<	<
<	<I challenge each candidate to address the issue and detail a plan to
<	<deal with it. Forget the general statements. There are things that
<	<must happen for the War to end. And if someone with a high school
<	<education and few accomplishments can do it, all of you should be able
<	<to solve this problem with ease. My vote will go to the candidates with
<	<the best plans. I urge others to wait a bit before casting their votes.
<	< Let's see what happens!
<	<
<	<73, John K8YSE
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<-Michelle W5NYV
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<"Potestatem obscuri lateris nescis."
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