[amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election

Fri Jul 31 03:44:19 UTC 2020

Totally uncalled for.

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73 de W3AB/GEO

On Jul 30, 2020, 20:14, at 20:14, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>I love it!  (NOT!!!)   deliberate election interference  -- you should
>be
>proud!!  Tips for democrats trying to overthrow a FEDERAL election!!
>
>This is why I will probably NEVER become an AMSAT member  -  too many
>liberals in charge!
>
>KE7ACY
>
>On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:23 PM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
>amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> I would highly recommend everyone who got this unsolicited email to
>use
>> their email provider's 'Report as Spam' function. What this does is
>let
>> your provider know this was unwanted messaging, and flags the
>originating
>> relay (the actual computer that sent the emails out) as a bad actor.
>If
>> enough folks flag said server as a bad actor, that server will start
>> getting ignored by the internet's email infrastructure thru a series
>of
>> blocklists and reputation databases. I flagged the first email this
>morning
>> as such, and I've been slowly watching the commercial vendor's relay
>climb
>> in the 'bad reputation' score all day. Normally inexpensive relay
>services
>> also have provisions that require someone renting their servers to
>have
>> *explicit* (that is, opt-in) permission from their receivers, or they
>risk
>> paying exorbitant fees for breaking the rules. I haven't dug into the
>TOS
>> of this particular relay service yet, but I would guess it's no
>different.
>> I'm sure Candidate DeFelice and Candidate Johns were aware of this
>fine
>> print when they chose to use this service, so they must have deeper
>pockets
>> than me.
>>
>> The beauty of the internet today is it's largely a self policing
>group of
>> operators and engineers who just want things to work, and jerks to go
>> away.. and that's normally how it all goes down. Welcome to the 21st
>> century.
>>
>> -Dave, KG5CCI
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:07 PM Howie DeFelice via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Dave,
>> >
>> > That is a great question. I asked a similar quest of Clayton
>Coleman last
>> > year when AMSAT sent me a time critical email to an address I
>rarely
>> used.
>> > If AMSAT had an email list candidates should have access to it. The
>> answer
>> > I got was that AMSAT did not, and officially still does not
>apparently,
>> > have an email list for members and he obtained my email from
>QRZ.com.
>> AMSAT
>> > does provide candidates with a mailing list that includes callsigns
>so I
>> > looked up all the callsigns on the AMSAT mailing list in QRZ.com
>(over
>> 2200
>> > of them) and did my own email broadcast.  I did not use an outside
>firm
>> and
>> > the email list will be treated with the same rules that govern the
>> mailing
>> > list we were provided.  I did have to lease access to a commercial
>smtp
>> > relay service, buy some software and modify my web site DNS but it
>was a
>> > fraction of the cost and much faster than sending snail mail.
>Welcome to
>> > the 21st century 🙂 The email had an unsubscribe link if you don't
>want
>> to
>> > receive any additional mail from me.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Howie AB2S
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:59 PM
>> > To: Howie DeFelice <hdefelice at ab2s.freeservers.com>; AMSAT -BB <
>> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> > Subject: Re: AMSAT Critical Election
>> >
>> > Out of curiosity, did AMSAT supply email addresses to the
>candidates and
>> > if not how did a candidate get email addresses of AMSAT members?
>> >
>> > Dave-KB1PVH
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Galaxy S9
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 1:01 AM Howie DeFelice <
>> >
>hdefelice at ab2s.freeservers.com<mailto:hdefelice at ab2s.freeservers.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Your vote will determine the future of AMSAT
>> >
>> >
>> >  My name is Howie DeFelice and I am running for the AMSAT board of
>> > directors. You probably have read my short candidate statement that
>came
>> > along with your ballot. You can find much more in depth information
>about
>> > me and my ideas on my web site at www.ab2s.freeservers.com<
>> >
>>
>https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrack.smtpsendemail.com%2F9026972%2Fc%3Fp%3DEjQ7tXvsYnBDjFRcefprDeK9ZMrjiwnhwu1PoCNwQCOhol0d6TOWC01wpinvMUNi7-98ONNxia1MR-IC7uyR23vVYx1tK1TCPnYKm-2C3d9f2hbW2kfe04GG5yNT26N2qcRALnRe0WwVuOleo-bC5Q%3D%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1bbae00e6e5b42aa491108d834b248ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637317287610480529&sdata=Tc8WiEs%2FpEYEcB15jlcqebSycWMh3aCeEzedlKe%2Fsc8%3D&reserved=0
>> > >.
>> >
>> >  I have received many emails and read many comments on the AMSAT-BB
>that
>> > support the idea of moving the orgnization to a more proactive
>posture. I
>> > have long felt there were a large segments of the membership that
>felt
>> they
>> > were not being heard and the comments I have been getting have
>proved
>> that
>> > to be true. If you are one of those that feel that AMSAT has become
>a
>> > specialized contest club, that technical advancement is lagging and
>the
>> > needs of ALL the membership are not being heard, now is your chance
>to
>> make
>> > a difference.
>> >
>> >  It's going to take a lot of hard work to get the organization back
>on
>> > it's  founding path and will require a majority of like minded
>> individuals.
>> > We need to add two more dedicated directors to the board this
>election to
>> > begin making progress, like being able to call regular board
>meetings.
>> > Please consider voting for me and my associates; Dr. Bob McGwire
>and Mr.
>> > Jeff Johns. Your vote WILL make a difference.
>> >
>> > Thank you for your time,
>> >
>> > Howie DeFelice AB2S
>> >
>> > Unsubscribe by email<mailto:ab2s at amsat.org?subject=Unsubscribe>
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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