[amsat-bb] Rude Operator, part deux

Thu Mar 19 12:34:18 UTC 2020

I absolutely agree with Mike completely here.

I work with MANY people on every given day on a various number of radio operational issues, with satellites just being one of the many modes.

And I have seen several times that someone getting this wrong is usually making an honest effort but just may not have the skills down yet on how to do this properly, and just needs a little assistance a lot more than slamming for their lack of knowledge.

Every one of us have made a mistake or two, or even more in my case in the many great years I have been a ham. And no doubt I will make more in the future on something.

But if we have someone struggling with how to make this work, please feel free to send me a private message with their callsign and I will be MORE than happy to reach out to them to see where I can help them get on the right path.

Let's not discourage a wonderful ham from using an exciting mode like this, let's embrace their enthusiasm so they may be able to help others in the same way.

And most importantly, it should be the responsibility of ALL of us to be Mentors in this hobby. We don't even have to be an expert to be a good Mentor.

And never fail to remember that every one of us had to be mentored at some point ourselves, as where would we be in this great hobby if that never happened for us?

Let's not forget, this is supposed to be FUN. So let's make it so.

OK, stepping off my soap box now. 😊

Walter/K5WH

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:02 AM
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Rude Operator, part deux

Hi Bob

I just want to say that if you want to share the store and solve it, then you really do need to share the entire story with all the facts.

If you want to publicly shame an operator, then please do tell the entire story with the operators call sign.  If you are not able to tell the entire story then it is not really worth mentioning it at all.

I barely work the FM birds and it is clear that they are a waste of time and investment money, at least over North America.  No different than 27.185Mhz.  We have a repeater like that here in Toronto where there is no

control.   Hopefully, we have seen the last of the FM repeaters in the sky

since this part of the hobby is partially out of control.

I would like to know the callsign in case he shows up on the Linear birds and I know how to treat this operator.

Also, if I knew the callsign, I have no issue listening for him on an FM bird and then emailing him privately to see what he has to say.  Maybe there is a misunderstanding as there are 2 sides to every story.  But, without the callsign, I won't waste my time.

OK, rant over and I apologize for my rant.  I would just like more of the facts and that is all I am saying -- with full respect of course.

many 73

Mike va3mw

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:43 PM Bob Keating < <mailto:bkeating1954 at gmail.com> bkeating1954 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,

> 

> Believe me, you will have no problem hearing him. In the interest of 

> privacy, I am not going to give his full call, but the prefix was XE2.

> 

> 73,

> 

> Bob N6REK

> On 3/18/2020 7:05 PM, Michael Walker wrote:

> 

> Hi Bob

> 

> It does take all kinds.

> 

> What was his callsign?  That way none of us will work him when we hear him.

> 

> Mike va3mw

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:28 PM Bob Keating via AMSAT-BB < 

>  <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> 

>> I'm sure those of you that were on the SO-50 pass this morning at 

>> 16:38 utc heard that rude operator who repeatedly threw out his call 

>> sign and called "CQ satellite".  He was stomping over everyone and 

>> apparently didn't hear those of us who responded to his call, myself 

>> and Doug N6UA had responded to him among others .My thought was this is a "newbie"

>> that has never worked the birds before, so I figured I would look him 

>> up on QRZ and send him a friendly email offering some help and suggestions.

>> Low and behold this guy's QRZ page is papered with scads of award 

>> certificates including, get this, a VUCC satellite award! You'd think 

>> he'd know better! I did kindly offer some suggestions and help 

>> including not calling "CQ satellite" and referred him to AMSAT's web 

>> site.  In addition, he was keeping operators from a QSO with N6UA who 

>> is roving right now.  I don't know if he was operating full duplex or 

>> maybe he didn't have his downlink frequency correct. Regardless, his 

>> signal was so strong and overpowering, i sincerely question if he was 

>> putting out just 5 watts.

>> 

>> We had a much better pass on AO-91 at 19:07.

>> 

>> 73,

>> 

>> Bob N6REK

>> 

>> 

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