[amsat-bb] Poor Operators

Thu Mar 19 19:50:40 UTC 2020

This is not just a problem for hams on satellites but hams on local
repeaters passing emergency traffic and unfortunately also an infested
problem in my 911 dispatch. I wish I knew how to slow people down. I tell
people to listen to the Missouri Highway Patrol dispatch and try to sound
like them, it sometimes works, usually not as well as i'd like.

Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
Owner/Engineer
*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*
PO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270
Mobile (660)415-5620
www.mchambersradio.com

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:43 PM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> All,
>
> There is another practice that I have not seen addressed here that makes
> thing really tough - talking way too fast.  I understand the reason but
> fast talking just leads to the request for repeats which means more traffic
> and/or busted Q's.  So in addition to turn down the power how about
> talking just a little slowly and more clearly?
>
> Just a suggestion.
>
> John K4SQC
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:03 PM Isaac C via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > ps -. it was SO-50, pass 11:58 local time, Mar 12.
> >
> > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Isaac C <shorenicehere at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > > I am Isaac, W4ITC, grid FM14.
> > > I am maybe two weeks ahead of you in the newbie category. I just got my
> > > first QSO/QSL on March 12.
> > > I connected with W0NBC.
> > > After me, you can hear WB3CSY do an expert connection with someone
> else.
> > > I listened to many passed before I was brave enough to talk. It
> probably
> > > shows.
> > > My rig is qty 2 Baofengs @ 5w with a WA5VJB home-made antenna.
> > >
> > > Best luck.
> > >
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YSF3hL6NBtRMkcw3gDcx8VURQ3dB
> > > UNl/view?usp=drivesdk
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Mike Wilhelm via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been collecting equipment and waiting for the right time to try
> and
> > >> get on a bird.  Life is too busy...
> > >> Anyway, it might be helpful if there were a few audio examples we
> could
> > >> pass on to newbies and uninformed operators of good and bad operating.
> > I
> > >> would recommend beeping out any parts of the call sign for any
> examples
> > of
> > >> poor operation.  I'd sure like to hear them.  Maybe even post them to
> a
> > >> section on the AMSAT page covering operating?  I apologize if this is
> > >> already out there...back to that too busy thing again.  I haven't had
> > many
> > >> opportunities to take my FT-470 outside with my Arrow and chase a
> bird.
> > >> The QSOs I've heard seem like they go so fast and I'd hate to annoy
> > anyone
> > >> by being the slowpoke.
> > >> 73!  Mike AF5AT
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:52 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I am a minimalist because I want to be a minimalist. I understand
> that
> > >> the
> > >> > FM bird is nothing more than a repeater and the strongest signal
> takes
> > >> the
> > >> > bird, even if someone else is talking. "Someone else is talking" is
> > the
> > >> > rude part. Last weekend, I was chasing a rover and got "KC9" out and
> > >> into
> > >> > the bird (I work full duplux, so know that I was in) and someone
> took
> > >> over
> > >> > by stepping on me. Luckily, I got him anyway, but someone was high
> > power
> > >> > and more important than me. That's the way contesters work. But, I
> > don't
> > >> > want to plaster someone's call on the board. I just hope that the
> > >> person is
> > >> > a member and thinks about it. Getting into a peeing contest with
> > >> someone is
> > >> > not beneficial to anybody, including the hobby. It used to be that
> if
> > >> one
> > >> > said "handheld" or "portable" guys would give them a break, but that
> > >> > doesn't happen anymore. The birds are too crowded for that. There
> are
> > >> > several people in my ham clubs that want to try satellite operation
> > and
> > >> > myself and my friend Rick (WA9JBQ) loves to
> > >> >  mentor them and teach them the proper way to operate. Not everyone
> > has
> > >> > this benefit. I don't know what the answer is. Last Spring one ham
> was
> > >> an
> > >> > extremely poor operator on the birds, but is now a better operator.
> > So,
> > >> > something works. But there is always the tendency to crank up the
> > power
> > >> to
> > >> > get the station that you want, if you have the power available. It
> is
> > >> like
> > >> > guys who I know that run 1,500 watts on FT8 to get what they want. I
> > >> guess
> > >> > it is going to happen and we have to live with that fact.
> > >> >
> > >> > As soon as I solve my equipment problem with my 847 and the weather
> > >> turns
> > >> > warmer, I will be back on the linear birds. I sure do miss FO-29.
> Brad
> > >> > KC9UQR
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