[amsat-bb] Poor Operators

Thu Mar 19 20:00:57 UTC 2020

And using standardized phonetics is even better, I hear on HF all the time
calls that sound like "Zanzibar Portugal Derkaderkastan"

Matthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:56 PM John Geiger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Using phonetics can really help also, especially if you have letters that
> sound alike in your call, such as T and D.
>
> 73 John W5TD
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:40 PM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > There is another practice that I have not seen addressed here that makes
> > thing really tough - talking way too fast.  I understand the reason but
> > fast talking just leads to the request for repeats which means more
> traffic
> > and/or busted Q's.  So in addition to turn down the power how about
> > talking just a little slowly and more clearly?
> >
> > Just a suggestion.
> >
> > John K4SQC
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:03 PM Isaac C via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ps -. it was SO-50, pass 11:58 local time, Mar 12.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Isaac C <shorenicehere at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > > I am Isaac, W4ITC, grid FM14.
> > > > I am maybe two weeks ahead of you in the newbie category. I just got
> my
> > > > first QSO/QSL on March 12.
> > > > I connected with W0NBC.
> > > > After me, you can hear WB3CSY do an expert connection with someone
> > else.
> > > > I listened to many passed before I was brave enough to talk. It
> > probably
> > > > shows.
> > > > My rig is qty 2 Baofengs @ 5w with a WA5VJB home-made antenna.
> > > >
> > > > Best luck.
> > > >
> > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YSF3hL6NBtRMkcw3gDcx8VURQ3dB
> > > > UNl/view?usp=drivesdk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Mike Wilhelm via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I've been collecting equipment and waiting for the right time to try
> > and
> > > >> get on a bird.  Life is too busy...
> > > >> Anyway, it might be helpful if there were a few audio examples we
> > could
> > > >> pass on to newbies and uninformed operators of good and bad
> operating.
> > > I
> > > >> would recommend beeping out any parts of the call sign for any
> > examples
> > > of
> > > >> poor operation.  I'd sure like to hear them.  Maybe even post them
> to
> > a
> > > >> section on the AMSAT page covering operating?  I apologize if this
> is
> > > >> already out there...back to that too busy thing again.  I haven't
> had
> > > many
> > > >> opportunities to take my FT-470 outside with my Arrow and chase a
> > bird.
> > > >> The QSOs I've heard seem like they go so fast and I'd hate to annoy
> > > anyone
> > > >> by being the slowpoke.
> > > >> 73!  Mike AF5AT
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:52 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <
> > > >> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I am a minimalist because I want to be a minimalist. I understand
> > that
> > > >> the
> > > >> > FM bird is nothing more than a repeater and the strongest signal
> > takes
> > > >> the
> > > >> > bird, even if someone else is talking. "Someone else is talking"
> is
> > > the
> > > >> > rude part. Last weekend, I was chasing a rover and got "KC9" out
> and
> > > >> into
> > > >> > the bird (I work full duplux, so know that I was in) and someone
> > took
> > > >> over
> > > >> > by stepping on me. Luckily, I got him anyway, but someone was high
> > > power
> > > >> > and more important than me. That's the way contesters work. But, I
> > > don't
> > > >> > want to plaster someone's call on the board. I just hope that the
> > > >> person is
> > > >> > a member and thinks about it. Getting into a peeing contest with
> > > >> someone is
> > > >> > not beneficial to anybody, including the hobby. It used to be that
> > if
> > > >> one
> > > >> > said "handheld" or "portable" guys would give them a break, but
> that
> > > >> > doesn't happen anymore. The birds are too crowded for that. There
> > are
> > > >> > several people in my ham clubs that want to try satellite
> operation
> > > and
> > > >> > myself and my friend Rick (WA9JBQ) loves to
> > > >> >  mentor them and teach them the proper way to operate. Not
> everyone
> > > has
> > > >> > this benefit. I don't know what the answer is. Last Spring one ham
> > was
> > > >> an
> > > >> > extremely poor operator on the birds, but is now a better
> operator.
> > > So,
> > > >> > something works. But there is always the tendency to crank up the
> > > power
> > > >> to
> > > >> > get the station that you want, if you have the power available. It
> > is
> > > >> like
> > > >> > guys who I know that run 1,500 watts on FT8 to get what they
> want. I
> > > >> guess
> > > >> > it is going to happen and we have to live with that fact.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As soon as I solve my equipment problem with my 847 and the
> weather
> > > >> turns
> > > >> > warmer, I will be back on the linear birds. I sure do miss FO-29.
> > Brad
> > > >> > KC9UQR
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