From aj9n at aol.com Tue Sep 1 02:00:22 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 02:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-01 01:30 UTC References: <1494865122.939018.1598925622985.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1494865122.939018.1598925622985@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-01 01:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? The KMO Kolska Wyspa, Ko?o, Poland, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Wed 2020-09-02 12:58:11 UTC 75 deg ? Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/ ? ? College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg (***) ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: Green Bank Elementary Middle School, Green Bank, WV (***) ? Cancelled: No new schools (***) ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-01 01:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-08-24 15:00 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1396. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1329. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Sep 1 15:06:54 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release No. 20-14 References: <141843690.1112836.1598972814910.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <141843690.1112836.1598972814910@mail.yahoo.com> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ARISS News Release??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? No.?? 20-14????? Dave Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org ? ? ? FORIMMEDIATE RELEASE ? ? ARISS Contact Scheduledfor Students at KMO Kolska Wyspa, Ko?o,Poland ? September01, 2020?Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) has receivedschedule confirmation for an ARISS radio contact with astronauts. ARISS is thegroup that puts together special amateur radio contacts between students aroundthe globe and crew members with ham radio licenses on the International Space Station (ISS). ? This ARISS event will be a telebridge contact via amateur radio and students will take turnsasking their questions of ISS Commander Chris Cassidy, amateur radio call sign KF5KDR. MartinDiggins, amateur radio call sign VK6MJ, in Australia will serve as the relay amateur radio ground station. ? The ARISS contact is scheduled for September 2,2020 at 2:58 pm CEST in Kolo (12:58 pm UTC,?8:58 am EDT,?7:58 amCDT, 6:58 am MDT and 5:58 am PDT). ? Several educational groups have beenselected for the ARISS school contact. ? The Klub M?odych Odkrywc?w (KMO) KolskaWyspa is a club of teen explorers, which was founded in June 2013 and youthhave taken part in educational programs in cooperation with the CopernicusScience Centre in Warsaw. The club is involved in the MoonKAM and the EarthKAM missions.In cooperation with 12 other clubs of teen explorers in Poland, KMO KolskaWyspa promoted these missions with an exhibition called "The Earth fromthe Sky.? ? Also invited to the ARISS contact arestudents from the Adam Mickiewicz Primary School No. 2, which has 120 studentsages 12 to 15, and Kazimierz Wielki Secondary School, which has 90 studentsages 16 to 19. Both schools are in Ko?o. The first offers students theopportunity to take part in many space-related activities and the second schoolis famous for the construction of robots. ? ???? _____________________________. ? Astime allows, students will ask these questions: 1. What do you dowhen you get ill or injured? 2. How long did youtrain before flying into space? 3. What kind of funactivities can you do in the state of microgravity? 4. What kind of fooddo you eat and is it tasty? 5. As fizzy drinksare forbidden in space because of CO2, so what time and how are you going tocelebrate the New Year on the ISS? 6. Do you use anywatches and clocks on the station? 7. What do you dreamabout most of all when you are in space? 8. What kind ofspacesuits do you use in outer space? 9. What do astronautsfeel when a spaceship docks to the ISS? 10. Is it true thatflights in the Crew Dragon are more comfortable than those in the SpaceShuttles? 11. What is theeffect of space flight on your body? 12. Do you keep intouch with your family or friends on Earth when you are in space? 13. What is the rangeof temperature inside and outside of the ISS? 14. What do you do inyour free time in space? 15. How often do youclean the ISS and why is it so important? 16. Where do you havemore appetite on Earth or in space? 17. What kind ofbooks do you read in space? 18. What kind ofresearch are you doing in space right now? 19. What kind ofrobots do you use in space and what are their applications? 20. How many timescan you see fireworks on Earth to celebrate the New Year?s Eve around theWorld? ? ? ARISS ? Celebrating 20 Years of Amateur RadioContinuous Operations on the ISS ? About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the InternationalSpace Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radiosocieties and the space agencies that support the International Space Station(ISS).? In the United States, sponsorsare the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio RelayLeague (ARRL), the ISS National Lab-Space Station Explorers, and NASA?s SpaceCommunications and Navigation program. The primary goal of ARISS is to promoteexploration of science, technology, engineering, the arts, and mathematicstopics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew membersaboard the ISS and students. Before and during these radio contacts, students,educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, andamateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org . ? MediaContact: DaveJordan, AA4KN ARISSPR ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Likeus on Facebook. Follow us on Twitter. Search on Amateur Radio on the ISS and at ARISS_status. ? ? ? ? From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Tue Sep 1 16:19:10 2020 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 11:19:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for September 2020 Message-ID: Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period August 1, 2020 through September 1, 2020. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! WOW! Long list again this month! CALL August September K8YSE 1926 1935 This was missed last month WA5KBH 759 766 W5RKN 708 721 AA8CH 641 702 N6UK 675 687 N0JE 652 655 NS3L 575 600 KI7UNJ 527 551 AD0HJ 450 478 AF5CC 425 461 KE8FZT 428 450 N9FN 403 450 PS8ET 434 450 W7JSD 355 375 WA9JBQ 326 355 KC9UQR 326 351 KC9VGG 310 336 N3CRT 200 303 K0JM New 300 KS1G 233 285 WW8W 228 260 K5CIS 150 250 KX9X 100 219 WB7QXU 140 204 KF6JOQ 101 201 WD9EWK (DM41) 164 176 KX9X (EN50) New 175 LW2DAF 130 166 W8LR 100 149 KB9STR 104 138 K1PAD New 130 DF2ET New 129 WA8ZID New 126 PP2RON New 106 KI4ASK New 105 KO4AQF New 104 K5TA New 101 LU3FCA 100 101 NA1ME New 100 If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at @.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for the two months. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! Ron W5RKN From christophe.mcr at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 16:26:57 2020 From: christophe.mcr at gmail.com (christophe.mcr) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 18:26:57 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload Message-ID: The Vega rocket (VV16) is scheduled to leave Kourou on *02 september * 2020 at 3h36 CEST with 53 satellites on board. One of the satellites that will be leaving is the *Amicalsat *satellite built by the CSUG (Centre Spatial Universitaire Grenoblois). The measurements made by the satellite will be available to all. They will allow radio amateurs to use them for propagation predictions. The project's website (in english) has just been put online: http:// amicalsat.univ-grenoble-alpes.fr/. The Amsat-Francophone supported this project: http://site.amsat-f.org/ amicalsat/ A software (Linux & Windows) is provided for decoding the telemetry and sending it to the database (SatNogs). The user manual is available (in english) https://code.electrolab.fr/xtof/josast/-/blob/master/ApplicationAmicalsat/src/site/markdown/UserManual.md *Beacon* *Frequency* *Modes* *Callsign* UHF 436.1 MHz AFSK 1200 RS17S S band 2,415.3 MHz GFSK 1000 kb/s http://amsat-f.org/AMSATLIST/SatellitePage/UK/0Amicalsat.html Reports are welcome. Thank you for your help. The first 5 people who receive a frame from AmicalSat will receive a gift. To submit your frame uses the satnogs SIDS or email satellite at adri38.fr. 2 other satellite : *Satellites * *beacon* *frequency* *Modes* *indicatif* *UPMSat-2* UHF 437.405 MHz AFSK 1200 UPMST2 *TTU100* Primary 435.450 MHz 1k2 and 9k6 et CW *TTU100* Secondary 10465.000 MHz OPSK de 62,5 Kbs a 20 Mbs * TTU100 : * http://amsat-f.org/AMSATLIST/SatellitePage/UK/0TT%C3%9C100%20(TT%C3%9CSat,%20MektorySAT%201,%20H%C3%A4marik)%20.html * UPMSat-2 : * http://amsat-f.org/AMSATLIST/SatellitePage/UK/0UPMSat-2%20.html *TLE* 1 74001U 20500A 20246.14839410 .00000000 00000-0 50000-4 0 05 2 74001 97.4424 319.0247 0002779 53.5911 328.5572 15.10021350 09 73 Christophe Mercier Amsat-F chairman From aj9n at aol.com Tue Sep 1 16:29:29 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 16:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-01 16:30 UTC References: <455251896.1150187.1598977769473.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <455251896.1150187.1598977769473@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-01 16:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? The KMO Kolska Wyspa, Ko?o, Poland, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Wed 2020-09-02 12:58:11 UTC 75 deg ? Watch for live stream at:? (***) https://batc.org.uk/live/vk6mj and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLuKT51K4aU Check the page for any updates of links: https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/ ? ? ? ? College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools (***) ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-01 16:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-08-24 15:00 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1396. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1329. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 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View/Reply Online (#42) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [ bruninga at usna.edu] _._,_._,_ From charlieray at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 17:22:09 2020 From: charlieray at gmail.com (Charles Reiche) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 13:22:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] S band In-Reply-To: <2024337641.62174.1598979165329@connect.xfinity.com> References: <2024337641.62174.1598979165329@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Launching tomorrow. *Beacon* *Frequency* *Modes* *Callsign* UHF 436.1 MHz AFSK 1200 RS17S S band 2,415.3 MHz GFSK 1000 kb/s http://amsat-f.org/AMSATLIST/SatellitePage/UK/0Amicalsat.html 73 N3CRT Charles Reiche On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 1:06 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hello- I was thinking of blowing the dust of some of my AO-40 (sobsob) > equipment. Is there anything, or will there be anything "up there" that > has S band capability? > 73 Bob W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From py41 at att.net Tue Sep 1 17:51:48 2020 From: py41 at att.net (Perry Yantis) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] S band References: <47887787.1194523.1598982708811.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47887787.1194523.1598982708811@mail.yahoo.com> DTUSAT-2 still has a beacon at 2401.860, tune up and down around this frequency.Short cw data that lasts about 5 seconds and repeats about every 15 seconds.I just heard it today. Perry WB8OTH py41 at att.net sent from my Apple Macbook Pro From jim at k6ccc.org Tue Sep 1 18:05:04 2020 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 11:05:04 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> On 09/01/2020 09:26, christophe.mcr via AMSAT-BB wrote: > The Vega rocket (VV16) is scheduled to leave Kourou on *02 september * 2020 > at 3h36 CEST with 53 satellites on board. Are any of these "amateur" payloads actually amateur usable transponders, or are they just telemetry transmitters on amateur frequencies? -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Sep 1 19:15:27 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:15:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: On 09/01/20 13:05, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Are any of these "amateur" payloads actually amateur usable > transponders, or are they just telemetry transmitters on amateur > frequencies? I second that sentiment, Jim. Seems like a lot of orbiting class projects, without much amateur relevance, using our bands. IMO, these should be Part 5 licenses in some other segment. --- Zach N0ZGO From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Sep 1 19:18:22 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:18:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] S band In-Reply-To: <2024337641.62174.1598979165329@connect.xfinity.com> References: <2024337641.62174.1598979165329@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <4aa4d9f6-87c8-e38a-25d1-b864f61f501c@pobox.com> On 09/01/20 11:52, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hello- I was thinking of blowing the dust of some of my AO-40 (sobsob) equipment. Is there anything, or will there be anything "up there" that has S band capability? > 73 Bob W7LRD Hello Bob, About 2 minutes into Jerry's "Two Minute Update": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H4iM1hoVG4 S-band uplink is mentioned. --- Zach N0ZGO From peter at magicbug.co.uk Tue Sep 1 19:33:11 2020 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 20:33:11 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched using ham freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of Amicalsat it's highly relevant with it's science payload. Peter, 2M0SQL On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, 20:17 Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB, wrote: > On 09/01/20 13:05, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Are any of these "amateur" payloads actually amateur usable > > transponders, or are they just telemetry transmitters on amateur > > frequencies? > > I second that sentiment, Jim. Seems like a lot of orbiting class > projects, without much amateur relevance, using our bands. > > IMO, these should be Part 5 licenses in some other segment. > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Sep 1 19:42:00 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:42:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: <65309631-629d-b33b-1e5d-e103e484fb81@pobox.com> On 09/01/20 14:33, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote: > While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched using > ham freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of Amicalsat it's > highly relevant with it's science payload. Is "Amicalsat" a satellite manufactured by the for-profit "SatRevolution S.A" company for csug.fr? https://satrevolution.com/company/careers/ If so, it's even _less_ relevant to the mission of non-profit amateur radio. If the two aren't related, then I'm mistaken. In any case, it appears to be a space weather satellite to send pictures down to earth. Do they even have an amateur callsign that will be transmitted? This one-way transmission, without much benefit to those outside the project, isn't furthering two-way amateur communications. I respectfully disagree with you on its relevance in any way to amateur radio. --- Zach N0ZGO From rich at ourowndomain.com Tue Sep 1 19:55:41 2020 From: rich at ourowndomain.com (Rich Gopstein) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 15:55:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT- 20% OFF ARRL's Energy Choices book In-Reply-To: References: <20200901124656.60C5120DB228@bmail.arrl.org> <1630B69177D40E78.25676@groups.io> Message-ID: I bought the book when it was first published and I really enjoyed reading it. It covers a wide range of topics, and all of them were interesting in various ways. 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AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jim at k6ccc.org Tue Sep 1 20:03:03 2020 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 13:03:03 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: <0c3c01d6808d$bd9d3930$38d7ab90$@frawg.org> References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> <0c3c01d6808d$bd9d3930$38d7ab90$@frawg.org> Message-ID: <2f1fbdc7-18e2-2239-004a-794ce70d353e@k6ccc.org> On 09/01/2020 11:28, kd4iz at frawg.org wrote: > there are > 3 Sats according to the website in Christophes' email, not 53. Must be a > typo. Actually there are 53 satellites on the launch - and one of those is actually a launcher that will deploy 12 cubesats. However, only three are using amateur frequencies. -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From christophe.mcr at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 20:22:25 2020 From: christophe.mcr at gmail.com (christophe.mcr) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 22:22:25 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: <2f1fbdc7-18e2-2239-004a-794ce70d353e@k6ccc.org> References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> <0c3c01d6808d$bd9d3930$38d7ab90$@frawg.org> <2f1fbdc7-18e2-2239-004a-794ce70d353e@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: 53 satellites are onboard but only 3 have been coordinated by IARU and use amateur frequency. For Amicalsat : A 2U CubeSat. AMICal Sat is an educational mission which has been developed by UGA-CSUG and MSU-SINP during 30 month. See : http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=686 and http://amicalsat.univ-grenoble-alpes.fr/pages/the_mission space weather data will be made available and could be used for propagation calculations. 73 Christophe Le mar. 1 sept. 2020 ? 22:06, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB a ?crit : > On 09/01/2020 11:28, kd4iz at frawg.org wrote: > > there are > > 3 Sats according to the website in Christophes' email, not 53. Must be a > > typo. > > Actually there are 53 satellites on the launch - and one of those is > actually a launcher that will deploy 12 cubesats. > However, only three are using amateur frequencies. > > -- > 73 > ------------------------------------- > Jim Walls - K6CCC > jim at k6ccc.org > Ofc: 818-548-4804 > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ > AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#m_-863488897327716881_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> From christophe.mcr at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 20:24:16 2020 From: christophe.mcr at gmail.com (christophe.mcr) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 22:24:16 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch has been postponed Message-ID: Dear The launch of Arianespace?s Small Spacecraft Mission Service (SSMS) Proof of Concept flight with Vega has been postponed due to the storm track of Typhoon Maysak over South Korea, which requires that the Jeju ground-based telemetry station be protected. Source : https://www.arianespace.com/mission-update/vv16-vega-weather-delay/ 73 Christophe Mercier Amsat-F chairman Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Sep 1 20:44:16 2020 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 16:44:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: <65309631-629d-b33b-1e5d-e103e484fb81@pobox.com> References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> <65309631-629d-b33b-1e5d-e103e484fb81@pobox.com> Message-ID: AmicalSat's space weather observation is, in my mind, and apparently in the IARU Satellite Advisor's mind, an "experiment relating to the radio technique" which means it meets the definition of amateur. It is important to remember that, while a great many of us got interested in this aspect of the hobby due to the two-way communications aspect, the amateur satellite service is broader. There are certainly satellites up there transmitting on the amateur bands that should not be in our bands, but I believe AmicalSat does fit. As for the manufacturer of the satellite? While, I don't feel that's relevant. I transmit on the amateur bands all the time with radios built for me by Yaesu, Kenwood, Elecraft, and Alinco. A satellite is best thought of as simply a piece of amateur station equipment, though one that's a bit more expensive and specialized than a commercial transceiver, and travelling faster and higher. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 3:47 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > On 09/01/20 14:33, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote: > > While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched using > > ham freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of Amicalsat it's > > highly relevant with it's science payload. > > Is "Amicalsat" a satellite manufactured by the for-profit "SatRevolution > S.A" company for csug.fr? > > https://satrevolution.com/company/careers/ > > If so, it's even _less_ relevant to the mission of non-profit amateur > radio. If the two aren't related, then I'm mistaken. > > In any case, it appears to be a space weather satellite to send pictures > down to earth. Do they even have an amateur callsign that will be > transmitted? This one-way transmission, without much benefit to those > outside the project, isn't furthering two-way amateur communications. > > I respectfully disagree with you on its relevance in any way to amateur > radio. > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gliderpilot at protonmail.com Tue Sep 1 19:34:07 2020 From: gliderpilot at protonmail.com (gliderpilot at protonmail.com) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 19:34:07 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? Message-ID: Folks, Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100? 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ) From kb2mjeff at att.net Tue Sep 1 21:35:59 2020 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:35:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <074e01d680a7$e33f5280$a9bdf780$@att.net> It's not being advertised as such, and nowhere in the specifications does it say it does. I wonder if it will do 9600 baud packet ? 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:34 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? Folks, Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100? 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ) From ki7unj at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 21:39:56 2020 From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:39:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As it's not full-duplex... I would doubt it. And reading the manual, there is nothing referring to such https://www.icomjapan.com/uploads/support/manual/IC-705_ENG_Advanced_0.pdf On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > Folks, > > Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100? > > 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Casey Tucker KI7UNJ https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Sep 1 21:42:59 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 16:42:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> <65309631-629d-b33b-1e5d-e103e484fb81@pobox.com> Message-ID: <49eb58d5-ee13-de6a-3a8d-a59add188c5a@pobox.com> On 09/01/20 15:44, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > As for the manufacturer of the satellite? While, I don't feel that's > relevant. I transmit on the amateur bands all the time with radios > built for me by Yaesu, Kenwood, Elecraft, and Alinco. A satellite is > best thought of as simply a piece of amateur station equipment, though > one that's a bit more expensive and specialized than a commercial > transceiver, and travelling faster and higher. Paul, I think you've made my point for me, right there. Back to building ... --- Zach N0ZGO From peter at magicbug.co.uk Tue Sep 1 22:03:07 2020 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 23:03:07 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As others pointed out and confirmed by ICOM no this isn't a duplex capable radio thus no satellite mode. Peter, 2M0SQL On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, 22:12 Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB, wrote: > > Folks, > > Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100? > > 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ki7unj at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 22:08:15 2020 From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 15:08:15 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: try this https://www.icomjapan.com/support/manual/3063/ Or google it.... "icom ic 705 manual english" On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:45 PM wrote: > > > Thanks Casey, > > > The link provided returns the following: Forbidden. You don't have permission to access this resource. > > 73's Oscar (N6PAZ) > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. > > ??????? Original Message ??????? > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 2:39 PM, KI7UNJ Tucker wrote: > > > As it's not full-duplex... I would doubt it. > > > > And reading the manual, there is nothing referring to such > > > > https://www.icomjapan.com/uploads/support/manual/IC-705_ENG_Advanced_0.pdf > > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB > > amsat-bb at amsat.org wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100? > > > 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ) > > > > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > > > > Casey Tucker KI7UNJ > > https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ > > -- Casey Tucker KI7UNJ https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ From ka3hdo at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 22:26:00 2020 From: ka3hdo at gmail.com (ka3hdo at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 18:26:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: References: <8b465ef1-81bb-e4c3-2159-9645b94dd221@k6ccc.org> <65309631-629d-b33b-1e5d-e103e484fb81@pobox.com> Message-ID: <039301d680ae$df7a5710$9e6f0530$@gmail.com> I am very honored that AMSAT had the vision years ago to fly the AMSAT/NASA GPS experiment on AO-40. Another "experiment relating to the radio technique." Without that opportunity, we would not have validated that GPS could be employed above the GPS constellation and beyond GEO. Program managers would not have the confidence to use GPS at GEO and beyond. Today, by employing GPS on the GEO orbit GOES weather satellites, those living in the Western Hemisphere are benefitting from significantly improved severe weather forecasting (hurricanes, flash floods, wild fire locations, etc). GPS is also employed on four space weather spacecraft flying 50% of the way to the moon. Its use on and around the moon is currently in the works. And, if you did not know, in 2006, the GPS program modified its specification to ensure this capability would be available for all space users in the future. What magnificent fruit from one little amateur radio space experiment!! Thanks, AMSAT!! What pathfinders you are! Can you imagine what the future holds for the experiment below? 73, Frank Bauer, KA3HDO -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 4:44 PM To: Zach Metzinger Cc: Amsat Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload AmicalSat's space weather observation is, in my mind, and apparently in the IARU Satellite Advisor's mind, an "experiment relating to the radio technique" which means it meets the definition of amateur. It is important to remember that, while a great many of us got interested in this aspect of the hobby due to the two-way communications aspect, the amateur satellite service is broader. There are certainly satellites up there transmitting on the amateur bands that should not be in our bands, but I believe AmicalSat does fit. As for the manufacturer of the satellite? While, I don't feel that's relevant. I transmit on the amateur bands all the time with radios built for me by Yaesu, Kenwood, Elecraft, and Alinco. A satellite is best thought of as simply a piece of amateur station equipment, though one that's a bit more expensive and specialized than a commercial transceiver, and travelling faster and higher. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 3:47 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > On 09/01/20 14:33, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote: > > While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched > > using ham freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of > > Amicalsat it's highly relevant with it's science payload. > > Is "Amicalsat" a satellite manufactured by the for-profit > "SatRevolution S.A" company for csug.fr? > > https://satrevolution.com/company/careers/ > > If so, it's even _less_ relevant to the mission of non-profit amateur > radio. If the two aren't related, then I'm mistaken. > > In any case, it appears to be a space weather satellite to send > pictures down to earth. Do they even have an amateur callsign that > will be transmitted? This one-way transmission, without much benefit > to those outside the project, isn't furthering two-way amateur communications. > > I respectfully disagree with you on its relevance in any way to > amateur radio. > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From chibill110 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 22:43:05 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:43:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Just wondering. Are any of the modules on curently flying Fox Sats opensource? Message-ID: I am just wondering are any of the stuff in the current Fox Sats opensource? If not, why not? If so, where could I find information on it? William Gaylord, KD9KCK From gliderpilot at protonmail.com Tue Sep 1 21:45:11 2020 From: gliderpilot at protonmail.com (gliderpilot at protonmail.com) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 21:45:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Casey, The link provided returns the following: Forbidden. You don't have permission to access this resource. 73's Oscar (N6PAZ) Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. ??????? Original Message ??????? On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 2:39 PM, KI7UNJ Tucker wrote: > As it's not full-duplex... I would doubt it. > > And reading the manual, there is nothing referring to such > > https://www.icomjapan.com/uploads/support/manual/IC-705_ENG_Advanced_0.pdf > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB > amsat-bb at amsat.org wrote: > > > Folks, > > Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100? > > 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ) > > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- > > Casey Tucker KI7UNJ > https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ From chibill110 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 00:03:13 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 19:03:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Just wondering. Are any of the modules on curently flying Fox Sats opensource? In-Reply-To: <382501270.1801053.1599002214526@mail.yahoo.com> References: <382501270.1801053.1599002214526@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you. Anyone know what licensing that documentation would be under? If any. (Like an opensource license or if its got no license making it All Rights Reserved) William Gaylord KD9KCK (Resent as I forgot to reply to the BB) On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:16 PM Robert Bankston wrote: > Bill, > > You can view Fox Engineering Data on the AMSAT website. Link is under > Projects|The Fox Project > > Direct link is > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AMSAT-Fox-Documentation.pdf > > In addition, as an AMSAT member, you can review past issues of the AMSAT > Proceedings and The AMSAT Journal archive on our member portal, > launch.amsat.org. There's a lot of great information in there. > > Robert, KE4AL > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 05:43:52 PM CDT, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > I am just wondering are any of the stuff in the current Fox Sats > opensource? If not, why not? If so, where could I find information on it? > > William Gaylord, KD9KCK > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From alozias at live.com Wed Sep 2 00:25:35 2020 From: alozias at live.com (Albert Ozias) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 00:25:35 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact? Message-ID: Do amateur radio operators who are active on linear satellites from DE exist? Al - N7EQF - CN84 From sjdevience at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 01:43:45 2020 From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 21:43:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload Message-ID: I would suggest that all these educational satellites that are just sending telemetry should have their own allocation, but the powers-that-be would probably take the spectrum from us to make it! So I suppose all these satellites at least help us protect the spectrum. Amicalsat has all of the protocols nicely documented so we can capture data and process it. I think that's a fair use of ham radio. On the other hand, the information on TTU100 is less forthcoming: https://old.taltech.ee/projects/mektory-eng/satellite-programme-3/satellite-programme/ Sure we can capture telemetry, but the other experiments are just using the ham bands for their own purposes. The trade off is that we can claim the 10 GHz band is being used by ham radio the next time someone tries to take it away. -Stephen N8URE From vk5qi at rfhead.net Wed Sep 2 02:52:08 2020 From: vk5qi at rfhead.net (Mark Jessop) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 12:22:08 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] Just wondering. Are any of the modules on curently flying Fox Sats opensource? In-Reply-To: References: <382501270.1801053.1599002214526@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Following on from this, are any of the linear transponder designs available anywhere? I do regular high-altitude balloon launches, and while FM cross-band repeaters are fun to fly, it would be more interesting to fly a linear transponder. Given there are many linear transponders in use on cubesats (some provided by AMSAT I believe), It would make sense to make use of an existing tested design. If I could buy one 'off-the-shelf' that would be better, since I am quite time-poor at the moment, though I realise this might be quite costly! 73 Mark VK5QI On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:33 AM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thank you. Anyone know what licensing that documentation would be under? If > any. (Like an opensource license or if its got no license making it All > Rights Reserved) > > William Gaylord KD9KCK > > (Resent as I forgot to reply to the BB) > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:16 PM Robert Bankston wrote: > > > Bill, > > > > You can view Fox Engineering Data on the AMSAT website. Link is under > > Projects|The Fox Project > > > > Direct link is > > > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AMSAT-Fox-Documentation.pdf > > > > In addition, as an AMSAT member, you can review past issues of the AMSAT > > Proceedings and The AMSAT Journal archive on our member portal, > > launch.amsat.org. There's a lot of great information in there. > > > > Robert, KE4AL > > > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 05:43:52 PM CDT, Bill Gaylord via > AMSAT-BB > > wrote: > > > > I am just wondering are any of the stuff in the current Fox Sats > > opensource? If not, why not? If so, where could I find information on it? > > > > William Gaylord, KD9KCK > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8fgv at usa.net Wed Sep 2 03:40:31 2020 From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 23:40:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload Message-ID: <456yiBDnf7408Set.1599018031@web08.cms.usa.net> According to the IARU website description, "AMICal Sat is an educational mission which has been developed by UGA-CSUG and MSU-SINP during 30 month. It involved 50 students of different level and specialties." One of the reasons that amateur radio still exists is that we can educate the next generation of students, and AMICal Sat seems to fulfill that mission. If it was a commercial or government mission or an academic mission without substantial student involvement, then Part 5 or whatever the European equivalent is would be more appropriate, but to grow the next generation of space scientists and satellite engineers it would seem to be a legitimate use of amateur radio frequencies. Dan Schultz N8FGV On 09/01/20 14:15, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> Are any of these "amateur" payloads actually amateur usable >> transponders, or are they just telemetry transmitters on amateur >> frequencies? >I second that sentiment, Jim. Seems like a lot of orbiting class >projects, without much amateur relevance, using our bands. >IMO, these should be Part 5 licenses in some other segment. From penguin359 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:16:32 2020 From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 03:16:32 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Status for Android Message-ID: I have an initial working version of the AMSAT Status app that can submit reports as well as can show existing status reports submitted by others. However, it's still a bit rough on the edges and can crash on older devices so I don't want to hit publish just yet, but I am up for adding anyone to the initial testing. If you are interested in being added to the Alpha releases to try it out, just send me a direct email and I can add you. You should get any updates up to the public release. -Loren K7IW From john at papays.com Wed Sep 2 14:09:57 2020 From: john at papays.com (john at papays.com) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 10:09:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Message-ID: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare on satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade ago. The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could be persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? 73, John K8YSE From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Wed Sep 2 14:25:53 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release No. 20-13 References: <449357849.1536857.1599056753964.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <449357849.1536857.1599056753964@mail.yahoo.com> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ARISS News Release??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? No.?? 20-13?????? Dave Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org ? FORIMMEDIATE RELEASE ? First Element of ARISSNext Generation (Next-Gen) Radio System Installed in ISS ColumbusModule ? September2, 2020?The ARISS team is pleased to announce that set up and installation of the first element of our next generation radiosystem was completed and amateur radio operations with it are now underway. Thisfirst element, dubbed the InterOperable Radio System (IORS), was installed in theInternational Space Station Columbus module. The IORS replaces the Ericssonradio system and packet module that were originally certified for spaceflighton July 26, 2000. ? Initial operation of the new radio system is in FM cross bandrepeater mode using an uplink frequency of 145.99 MHz with an access tone of 67Hz and a downlink frequency of 437.800 MHz. System activation was firstobserved at 01:02 UTC on September 2. Special operations will continue to beannounced. ? The IORS was launched from KennedySpace Center on March 6, 2020 on board the SpaceX CRS-20 resupply mission. It consists of a special, space-modified JVC Kenwood D710GAtransceiver, an ARISS developed multi-voltage power supply and interconnectingcables. The design, development, fabrication, testing, and launch of the first IORSwas an incredible five-year engineering achievement accomplished by the ARISS hardwarevolunteer team. It will enable new, exciting capabilities for ham radiooperators, students, and the general public.?Capabilities include a higherpower radio, voice repeater, digital packet radio (APRS) capabilities and aKenwood VC-H1 slow scan television (SSTV) system. ? A second IORS undergoes flight certification and willbe launched later for installation in the Russian Service module. This secondsystem enables dual, simultaneous operations, (e.g. voice repeater and APRSpacket), providing diverse opportunities for radio amateurs. It also provides on-orbitredundancy to ensure continuous operations in the event of an IORS componentfailure.? ? Next-gen development efforts continue. For theIORS, parts are being procured and a total of ten systems are being fabricatedto support flight, additional flight spares, ground testing and astronaut training.Follow-on next generation radio system elements include an L-band repeateruplink capability, currently in development, and a flight Raspberry-Pi, dubbed ?ARISS-Pi,?that is just beginning the design phase.?The ARISS-Pi promises operations autonomy and enhanced SSTVoperations.? ? ARISS is run almost entirely by volunteers, and with the help of generouscontributions from ARISS sponsors and individuals.?Donations to the ARISS program for next generation hardwaredevelopments, operations, education, and administration are welcome -- pleasego to?https://www.ariss.org/donate.html?to contribute to these efforts. ? ARISS--Celebrating 20years of continuous amateur radio operations on the ISS! ? Amateur Radio on the InternationalSpace Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radiosocieties and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the RadioAmateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), theISS National Lab-Space Station Explorers, and NASA?s Space Communications andNavigation program. The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration ofscience, technology, engineering, the arts, and mathematics topics byorganizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard theISS and students. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators,parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateurradio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ? MediaContact: DaveJordan, AA4KN ARISSPR ??????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????? Likeus on Facebook. Follow us on Twitter. Search on Amateur Radio on the ISS and at ARISS_status. ? ? ----------------------------------------------------- From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Wed Sep 2 14:47:46 2020 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joseph B. Fitzgerald) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:47:46 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Just wondering. Are any of the modules on curently flying Fox Sats opensource? In-Reply-To: References: <382501270.1801053.1599002214526@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: Hardware and software for Fox have an enormous amount of design information available in AMSAT symposium proceedings, available from the AMSAT store. That is a great place to start. There are a bunch of US laws and regulations regarding spacecraft design that have so far prevented AMSAT from making things as open as all of us want. That being said, interested parties can work with AMSAT Engineering to get good design info and perhaps help open up the information even more. The government seems to be much less concerned about balloons vs spacecraft. de KM1P Joe From wizardofzid at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:44:23 2020 From: wizardofzid at gmail.com (Russ Kinner) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 08:44:23 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DE activation Message-ID: I would think some Philadelphia based Sat. Ops. might be able to get the state on air. I hope to be in the general area in late November and might make a day trip to DE. Not sure about the trip yet but that seems to be a demand I could fill. Rusty, WA8ZID From royldean at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 16:03:57 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 12:03:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DE activation Message-ID: For a while, N3ROY was very active. Maybe try shooting him an email. --Roy (unrelated to the above callsign holder) K3RLD From daniel at destevez.net Wed Sep 2 16:39:22 2020 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 18:39:22 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: <456yiBDnf7408Set.1599018031@web08.cms.usa.net> References: <456yiBDnf7408Set.1599018031@web08.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <2dde4243-f394-15ba-4cce-681e1e2e5d41@destevez.net> El 2/9/20 a las 5:40, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB escribi?: > According to the IARU website description, "AMICal Sat is an educational > mission which has been developed by UGA-CSUG and MSU-SINP during 30 month. It > involved 50 students of different level and specialties." > > One of the reasons that amateur radio still exists is that we can educate the > next generation of students, and AMICal Sat seems to fulfill that mission. If > it was a commercial or government mission or an academic mission without > substantial student involvement, then Part 5 or whatever the European > equivalent is would be more appropriate, but to grow the next generation of > space scientists and satellite engineers it would seem to be a legitimate use > of amateur radio frequencies. > Hi all, Just to add a positive comment about AMICal Sat's mission. If the satellite works well and there is a good management plan from spacecraft operators, we as Amateurs could be receiving and processing aurora images taken by the satellite, and learning about digital protocols, CMOS image sensors and space weather. See https://destevez.net/2020/03/decoding-images-from-amical-sat/ for an idea of what this can look like. Of course this needs a lot of non-technical work of engagement between the satellite operators and the Amateur community so that a fruitful cooperation can happen. Only time will tell to what extent this will happen, but my view is already positive since that work linked above was done in collaboration with Julien F4HVX, who was collaborating with the satellite team. So we already see that this project is not completely alien to the Amateur radio community. However, I also value and generally agree with the comments about many satellites using Amateur radio spectrum without adding any real value to the Amateur radio community. Regulatory matters aside (IARU satcoord is working really hard with this), I prefer to think positively about these as "missed chances of cooperation between the Amateur community and academia/education, or even the private sector (but take with a lot of care due to the non-profit character of Amateur radio)". Best, Dani. From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Wed Sep 2 17:37:13 2020 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 19:37:13 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload In-Reply-To: <2dde4243-f394-15ba-4cce-681e1e2e5d41@destevez.net> References: <456yiBDnf7408Set.1599018031@web08.cms.usa.net> <2dde4243-f394-15ba-4cce-681e1e2e5d41@destevez.net> Message-ID: <9244c69bc1a69d46431c8c714849bc69@vgnet.nl> Thanks Dani, A big thumbs up!! From my experience, it is really rewarding in working with these universities and students, many of them are in the process of becoming licensed radio amateurs or are already. They are eager and open minded and by supporting them and letting them experience the community we will have space industrie ambassadors for the future. And for those small groups that don't want to comply to the official and gentlemen agreements we should confront them and send them to the right authorities. On 02-09-2020 18:39, Daniel Est?vez via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just to add a positive comment about AMICal Sat's mission. If the > satellite works well and there is a good management plan from > spacecraft > operators, we as Amateurs could be receiving and processing aurora > images taken by the satellite, and learning about digital protocols, > CMOS image sensors and space weather. See > > https://destevez.net/2020/03/decoding-images-from-amical-sat/ > > for an idea of what this can look like. > > Of course this needs a lot of non-technical work of engagement between > the satellite operators and the Amateur community so that a fruitful > cooperation can happen. Only time will tell to what extent this will > happen, but my view is already positive since that work linked above > was > done in collaboration with Julien F4HVX, who was collaborating with the > satellite team. So we already see that this project is not completely > alien to the Amateur radio community. > > However, I also value and generally agree with the comments about many > satellites using Amateur radio spectrum without adding any real value > to > the Amateur radio community. Regulatory matters aside (IARU satcoord is > working really hard with this), I prefer to think positively about > these > as "missed chances of cooperation between the Amateur community and > academia/education, or even the private sector (but take with a lot of > care due to the non-profit character of Amateur radio)". > > Best, > > Dani. Jan -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog https://www.satblog.info/ Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ SatNOGS: https://network.satnogs.org/users/PE0SAT/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat From chibill110 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:04:30 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 13:04:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Just wondering. Are any of the modules on curently flying Fox Sats opensource? In-Reply-To: References: <382501270.1801053.1599002214526@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My big concern is that all these documents even with schematics or anything are no use to open-source projects unless they have a license because with out a license they might as well be All Rights Reserved. On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 9:47 AM Joseph B. Fitzgerald wrote: > Hardware and software for Fox have an enormous amount of design > information available in AMSAT symposium proceedings, available from the > AMSAT store. That is a great place to start. > > There are a bunch of US laws and regulations regarding spacecraft design > that have so far prevented AMSAT from making things as open as all of us > want. That being said, interested parties can work with AMSAT Engineering > to get good design info and perhaps help open up the information even > more. The government seems to be much less concerned about balloons vs > spacecraft. > > de KM1P Joe > > From kb2mjeff at att.net Wed Sep 2 18:10:20 2020 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:10:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> Message-ID: <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the New Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare on satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade ago. The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could be persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? 73, John K8YSE From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:19:49 2020 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 22:19:49 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM repeater Message-ID: <0AA5BFFA-6B16-4F87-BADF-E2EBBAC103D1@gmail.com> Dear All, Just to let you know that Patrice (3B8FA) ad myself did superb QSO via the iSS FM repeater just a few minutes ago. Working fine 59+ both ways on V/U (145.990/437.800 MHz), really nice to have the ISS repeater back on air. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) From w3ab at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 18:35:04 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 18:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> Message-ID: <1251009193.2276822.1599071704357@mail.yahoo.com> Why, yes there is. It's called the Supawna Meadows National Wildlife Refuge, managed by the US F&W Service. ---? Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side?? 73 de W3AB/GEO ??? http://www.w3ab.org You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out". On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 11:15:21 AM PDT, Jeff via AMSAT-BB wrote: What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the New Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Several are asking about a Delaware contact.? DE has always been rare on satellites.? It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade ago.? The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X.? He has no email in qrz and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year.? N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019.? Maybe Paul could be persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? 73, John K8YSE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Wed Sep 2 18:43:04 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 18:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM repeater In-Reply-To: <0AA5BFFA-6B16-4F87-BADF-E2EBBAC103D1@gmail.com> References: <0AA5BFFA-6B16-4F87-BADF-E2EBBAC103D1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1234462162.1654586.1599072184671@mail.yahoo.com> Jean,I'm so glad you are having successful QSOs through our new ISS IORS in repeater mode. These signal reports are important to us. It's been in operation less than a day, so we're happy to hear all is going well. Please continue to check us at our website at?http://www.ariss.org,?on twitter at ARISS_status, facebook at Amateur Radio On The International Space Station (ARISS) for any future updates.?? 73s,Dave, AA4KNARISS PR On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 02:22:30 PM EDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB wrote: Dear All, Just to let you know that Patrice (3B8FA) ad myself did superb QSO via the iSS FM repeater just a few minutes ago. Working fine 59+ both ways on V/U (145.990/437.800 MHz), really nice to have the ISS repeater back on air. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:48:21 2020 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 22:48:21 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM repeater In-Reply-To: <0AA5BFFA-6B16-4F87-BADF-E2EBBAC103D1@gmail.com> References: <0AA5BFFA-6B16-4F87-BADF-E2EBBAC103D1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear All, I forgot to say, in spite sending it to the 3B8 mail forum, that this is a good example that we do great things as a worldwide community and that one and all contribution to AMSAT or ARISS is most welcomed, space is expensive and without your contribution, just a cup of tea or coffee multiply by millions of OM makes a huge differences for the most wanted HEO/GEO's from all. Without the financial resources we will eventually fail in the long term. Just an appeal to one and all to promote the hobby to higher altitudes. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > > Dear All, > > Just to let you know that Patrice (3B8FA) ad myself did superb QSO via the iSS FM repeater just a few minutes ago. Working fine 59+ both ways on V/U (145.990/437.800 MHz), really nice to have the ISS repeater back on air. > > 73 > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:52:22 2020 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 22:52:22 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM repeater In-Reply-To: <1234462162.1654586.1599072184671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0AA5BFFA-6B16-4F87-BADF-E2EBBAC103D1@gmail.com> <1234462162.1654586.1599072184671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Dave, We will monitor and feed back for sure, but in a nutshell working as good as the local repeaters, superb and congratulations to ARISS for such a good achievement. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:43 PM, David Jordan wrote: > > Jean, > I'm so glad you are having successful QSOs through our new ISS IORS in repeater mode. These signal reports are important to us. It's been in operation less than a day, so we're happy to hear all is going well. Please continue to check us at our website at http://www.ariss.org, on twitter at ARISS_status, facebook at Amateur Radio On The International Space Station (ARISS) for any future updates. > > 73s, > Dave, AA4KN > ARISS PR > > > On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 02:22:30 PM EDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > Dear All, > > Just to let you know that Patrice (3B8FA) ad myself did superb QSO via the iSS FM repeater just a few minutes ago. Working fine 59+ both ways on V/U (145.990/437.800 MHz), really nice to have the ISS repeater back on air. > > 73 > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 19:16:59 2020 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 15:16:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> Message-ID: I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware state line. I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is really needed on satellites. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB wrote: > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the > New > Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to > give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > AMSAT-BB > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare on > satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade > ago. > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz > and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could be > persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? > > 73, John K8YSE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb1hy2 at comcast.net Wed Sep 2 19:43:40 2020 From: kb1hy2 at comcast.net (PETER BUDNIK) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 15:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> Message-ID: <268794936.17158.1599075820992@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Paul I can use it for a new State. Tnx Peter,KB1HY Burlington CR > On 09/02/2020 3:16 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware state > line. > > I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. > > I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is really > needed on satellites. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the > > New > > Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to > > give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > > AMSAT-BB > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare on > > satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade > > ago. > > > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz > > and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could be > > persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? > > > > 73, John K8YSE > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2mjeff at att.net Wed Sep 2 19:55:37 2020 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 15:55:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> Message-ID: <0fff01d68163$07ed5cb0$17c81610$@att.net> It might be a haul for you from Titusville, but when you get there look for a dirt road to your right just before you get to the Fort Mott State Park. You want to then drive out to Finn's Point. That will put you in Delaware on the New Jersey side... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 3:17 PM To: kb2mjeff at att.net Cc: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware state line. I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is really needed on satellites. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB wrote: > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on > the New Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near > Philly in NJ to give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also > put DE on the air.... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > AMSAT-BB > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare > on satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a > decade ago. > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in > qrz and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could > be persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? > > 73, John K8YSE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Wed Sep 2 20:29:10 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 20:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-02 20:00 UTC References: <88757757.1699019.1599078550358.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <88757757.1699019.1599078550358@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-02 20:00 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? The KMO Kolska Wyspa, Ko?o, Poland, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact was succesful: Wed 2020-09-02 12:58:11 UTC 75 deg (***) ? Watch for live stream at:? (***) https://batc.org.uk/live/vk6mj and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLuKT51K4aU Check the page for any updates of links: https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/ ? ? ? ? College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg ? ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? (***) ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? (***) ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-02 20:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-02 20:00 UTC. (***) https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????? ??? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1397. (***) Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1330. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Wed Sep 2 20:30:03 2020 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joseph B. Fitzgerald) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 20:30:03 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Just wondering. Are any of the modules on curently flying Fox Sats opensource? In-Reply-To: References: <382501270.1801053.1599002214526@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: Your concern is widely shared within AMSAT, and a lot of work is being done to try to open things up as much as we we possibly can without attracting attention from lawyers and bureaucrats. I suspect that if you work with the article authors and/or AMSAT Engineering you will be able to get information released under favorable license terms. In my experience, Fox contributors would like to see the fruits of their efforts used as widely as possible. de KM1P Joe From ka9p at aol.com Wed Sep 2 22:43:55 2020 From: ka9p at aol.com (Scott McDonald) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 22:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: <268794936.17158.1599075820992@connect.xfinity.com> References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> <268794936.17158.1599075820992@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <1301844448.1755842.1599086635526@mail.yahoo.com> HI Paul,? It would finish my Satellite WAS :) 73 Scott ka9p -----Original Message----- From: PETER BUDNIK via AMSAT-BB To: Paul Andrews ; Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB ; kb2mjeff at att.net Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2020 2:43 pm Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Hi Paul I can use it for a new State. Tnx Peter,KB1HY Burlington CR > On 09/02/2020 3:16 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >? > I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware state > line. > > I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. > > I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is really > needed on satellites. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the > > New > > Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to > > give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > > AMSAT-BB > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact.? DE has always been rare on > > satellites.? It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade > > ago. > > > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X.? He has no email in qrz > > and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019.? Maybe Paul could be > > persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? > > > > 73, John K8YSE > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2mjeff at att.net Wed Sep 2 23:28:06 2020 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 19:28:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: <21a6cfdf-ec92-4648-beff-54da76342f74@yahoo.com> References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> <0fff01d68163$07ed5cb0$17c81610$@att.net> <21a6cfdf-ec92-4648-beff-54da76342f74@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <124b01d68180$b6fb7c60$24f27520$@att.net> What does this have to do with the conversation? We?re talking about DE not grids, and what your saying, goes without saying? 73 Jeff kb2m From: W3AB/GEO Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:06 PM To: kb2mjeff at att.net Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? I suggest you take a GPS RCVR and set it to grid squares. But of course you probably know that. ? ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO On Sep 2, 2020, at 12:58, Jeff via AMSAT-BB > wrote: It might be a haul for you from Titusville, but when you get there look for a dirt road to your right just before you get to the Fort Mott State Park. You want to then drive out to Finn's Point. That will put you in Delaware on the New Jersey side... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB > On Behalf Of Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 3:17 PM To: kb2mjeff at att.net Cc: amsat-bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware state line. I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is really needed on satellites. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB > wrote: What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the New Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB > On Behalf Of john--- via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare on satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade ago. The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could be persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? 73, John K8YSE _____ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _____ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _____ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tcarchcape at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 23:53:31 2020 From: tcarchcape at yahoo.com (Tim Crawford) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 23:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 QSL Card References: <235042940.1773741.1599090811663.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <235042940.1773741.1599090811663@mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder to everyone that you can secure a QSL card from the operators of PO-101 (jpeg image) that they will email you. TimKE7TAC https://twitter.com/Diwata2PH Diwata2PH at Diwata2PH?Jan 19[QSL CARDS for QSOs]CQ operators of PO-101! If you have successfully operated PO-101, you can request a QSL card from us! Just fill in the necessary info and we'll send it to you as a token of appreciation for using PO-101 :) QSL Card:QSL Card for QSOs via PO-101Please fill out the necessary information for your QSL card. Complete this form for each confirmed QSO. QSL cards will be released at the end of the month through your provided email. 73docs.google.com From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 01:50:20 2020 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 21:50:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: <1301844448.1755842.1599086635526@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> <268794936.17158.1599075820992@connect.xfinity.com> <1301844448.1755842.1599086635526@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Scott, I completed WAS on 144 MHz via EME and I greatly appreciate the OPs who went remote to help make that possible. I would be happy to go to Delaware to help you get your WAS. Can we do this on an FM bird? I need some time to pull together a portable system. We'll do a test run from my QTH in NJ and then I'll drive south to DE and we'll do it again. Does that work for you? 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:43 PM Scott McDonald wrote: > HI Paul, > > It would finish my Satellite WAS :) > > 73 Scott ka9p > > > -----Original Message----- > From: PETER BUDNIK via AMSAT-BB > To: Paul Andrews ; Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org>; kb2mjeff at att.net > Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2020 2:43 pm > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > Hi Paul > I can use it for a new State. > > Tnx > > Peter,KB1HY > Burlington CR > > On 09/02/2020 3:16 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > > I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware > state > > line. > > > > I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. > > > > I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is > really > > needed on satellites. > > > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on > the > > > New > > > Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in > NJ to > > > give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the > air.... > > > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > > > AMSAT-BB > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > > > > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare > on > > > satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade > > > ago. > > > > > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz > > > and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > > > > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could > be > > > persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for > Delaware? > > > > > > 73, John K8YSE > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ka9p at aol.com Thu Sep 3 02:31:27 2020 From: ka9p at aol.com (Scott McDonald) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 02:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> <268794936.17158.1599075820992@connect.xfinity.com> <1301844448.1755842.1599086635526@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1775711354.1813591.1599100287272@mail.yahoo.com> Wow Paul, that's incredibly generous.? I usually avoid the sometimes random chaos of the FM birds and would hate to see ya do that and then catch a bad couple of passes, as they sometimes tend to be. I've got a Field Day 847 I'd be happy to put in a box and send out there if you wanted a loaner to do a little rover action and go when you could line up everyone that wanted DE on FM or SSB.? It's a little rocky on mode J at over a few watts out, at least with my close spaced attic antennas, but fine on all the other linears and FM birds.? I'm certainly in no hurry, my Hawaii QSO was on AO10 in 1995, and the first KL7 was a 21/29 mhz QSO on RS12 in 94.? A few months one way or the other shouldn't make much difference :) If interested just drop me a line direct ka9p at aol.com. 73 and thanks Scott ka9p -----Original Message----- From: Paul Andrews To: Scott McDonald Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org ; kb2mjeff at att.net Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2020 8:50 pm Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Scott, I completed WAS on 144 MHz via EME and I greatly appreciate the OPs who went remote to help make that possible.? I would be happy to go to Delaware to help you get your WAS.? ?Can we do this on an FM bird?? ?I need some time to pull together a portable system.? We'll do a test run from my QTH in NJ and then I'll drive south to DE and we'll do it again.? ?Does that work for you? 73 - Paul - W2HRO? On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:43 PM Scott McDonald wrote: HI Paul,? It would finish my Satellite WAS :) 73 Scott ka9p -----Original Message----- From: PETER BUDNIK via AMSAT-BB To: Paul Andrews ; Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB ; kb2mjeff at att.net Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2020 2:43 pm Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? Hi Paul I can use it for a new State. Tnx Peter,KB1HY Burlington CR > On 09/02/2020 3:16 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >? > I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware state > line. > > I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. > > I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is really > needed on satellites. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on the > > New > > Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in NJ to > > give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the air.... > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > > AMSAT-BB > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact.? DE has always been rare on > > satellites.? It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade > > ago. > > > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X.? He has no email in qrz > > and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019.? Maybe Paul could be > > persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for Delaware? > > > > 73, John K8YSE > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From curt.laumann at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 02:32:58 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 19:32:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D printing and threaded inserts Message-ID: Hi All, To support my interest in building amateur radio equipment I recently dove into 3D printing. I'm sure many are aware of the technique below, but still others might find it interesting. *You can easily install threaded brass inserts into 3D printed parts, making them very robust and useful.* Feel free to view the PDF file at the link below for a brief introduction to this technique. Curt / K7ZOO Tucson AZ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pk_TxQrJCwZ3NnAyDzvdfZ9ijtQBwNNq/view?usp=sharing From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 02:52:09 2020 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 22:52:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? In-Reply-To: <1775711354.1813591.1599100287272@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3f3730f9adfc08e4908811b320416949@papays.com> <0ecf01d68154$529cebe0$f7d6c3a0$@att.net> <268794936.17158.1599075820992@connect.xfinity.com> <1301844448.1755842.1599086635526@mail.yahoo.com> <1775711354.1813591.1599100287272@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Scott, Check out my QRZ page and you'll see my Squam Lake house setup with two FM HTs. This has worked nicely with SO-50. I am very familiar with the FT-847 since that was my first satellite radio. I'll build up an antenna system and we'll test. SO-50 mid-week should be ok. Right???????? :0 I went to Connecticut with a 144 MHz EME system to give PA5Y WAS EME. It will be a pleasure to activate DE for you. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:31 PM Scott McDonald wrote: > Wow Paul, that's incredibly generous. I usually avoid the sometimes > random chaos of the FM birds and would hate to see ya do that and then > catch a bad couple of passes, as they sometimes tend to be. > > I've got a Field Day 847 I'd be happy to put in a box and send out there > if you wanted a loaner to do a little rover action and go when you could > line up everyone that wanted DE on FM or SSB. It's a little rocky on mode > J at over a few watts out, at least with my close spaced attic antennas, > but fine on all the other linears and FM birds. I'm certainly in no hurry, > my Hawaii QSO was on AO10 in 1995, and the first KL7 was a 21/29 mhz QSO on > RS12 in 94. A few months one way or the other shouldn't make much > difference :) > > If interested just drop me a line direct ka9p at aol.com. > > 73 and thanks Scott ka9p > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Andrews > To: Scott McDonald > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org ; kb2mjeff at att.net < > kb2mjeff at att.net> > Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2020 8:50 pm > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > Scott, > > I completed WAS on 144 MHz via EME and I greatly appreciate the OPs who > went remote to help make that possible. I would be happy to go to Delaware > to help you get your WAS. Can we do this on an FM bird? I need some > time to pull together a portable system. We'll do a test run from my QTH > in NJ and then I'll drive south to DE and we'll do it again. Does that > work for you? > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:43 PM Scott McDonald wrote: > > HI Paul, > > It would finish my Satellite WAS :) > > 73 Scott ka9p > > > -----Original Message----- > From: PETER BUDNIK via AMSAT-BB > To: Paul Andrews ; Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org>; kb2mjeff at att.net > Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2020 2:43 pm > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > Hi Paul > I can use it for a new State. > > Tnx > > Peter,KB1HY > Burlington CR > > On 09/02/2020 3:16 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > > I live in Titusville, NJ (FN20nh) about 45 minutes from the Delaware > state > > line. > > > > I was active with LEO satellites in 2015-16 and enjoyed the work. > > > > I am mostly active on EME now but could get geared up if Delaware is > really > > needed on satellites. > > > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jeff via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > What most people don't know is there is a small piece of Delaware on > the > > > New > > > Jersey side. I used to drive there from my home that's near Philly in > NJ to > > > give out DE. So maybe someone in Central NJ can also put DE on the > air.... > > > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of john--- via > > > AMSAT-BB > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:10 AM > > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > > Subject: [amsat-bb] DELAWARE CONTACT? > > > > > > Several are asking about a Delaware contact. DE has always been rare > on > > > satellites. It was one of the last I needed for WAS more than a decade > > > ago. > > > > > > The most recent op that I am aware of was WA3X. He has no email in qrz > > > and hasn't uploaded to LOTW in about a year. > > > > > > N8HM operated from there as W3ZM/3 in October 2019. Maybe Paul could > be > > > persuaded to take the train up there and satisfy the demand for > Delaware? > > > > > > 73, John K8YSE > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From maccody at att.net Thu Sep 3 02:55:44 2020 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 21:55:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D printing and threaded inserts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6fb7ce7e-e836-16bc-09d9-01478406206b@att.net> There are a number of good articles on Hackaday that address this technique: Threaded 3D Printed Part Comparison https://hackaday.com/2019/03/26/threaded-3d-printed-part-comparison/ Custom Threaded Inserts For 3D Printing https://hackaday.com/2015/08/31/custom-threaded-inserts-for-3d-printing/ Are You Getting Your Money?s Worth From Threaded Inserts? https://hackaday.com/2019/12/12/are-you-getting-your-moneys-worth-from-threaded-inserts/ Dremel Workstation?s New Job: Applying Threaded Inserts With Cheap Soldering Iron https://hackaday.com/2020/06/10/dremel-workstations-new-job-applying-threaded-inserts-with-cheap-soldering-iron/ 73, Mac Cody / AE5PH On 9/2/20 9:32 PM, Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi All, > > To support my interest in building amateur radio equipment I recently dove > into 3D printing. I'm sure many are aware of the technique below, but > still others might find it interesting. > > *You can easily install threaded brass inserts into 3D printed parts, > making them very robust and useful.* Feel free to view the PDF file at the > link below for a brief introduction to this technique. > > Curt / K7ZOO > Tucson AZ > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pk_TxQrJCwZ3NnAyDzvdfZ9ijtQBwNNq/view?usp=sharing > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tjschuessler at verizon.net Thu Sep 3 03:13:45 2020 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 22:13:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mini Rove to EM02/EM03 5 September References: <012501d681a0$3c5433b0$b4fc9b10$.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <012501d681a0$3c5433b0$b4fc9b10$@verizon.net> Hi all, I am not a big grid hunter/rover, but I got an email request to activate a grid near me to help someone move closer to his GridMaster award, so . I will be making a trip about an hour and a half west of here with my daughter, to hopefully the EM02/EM03 border, on a state highway in North Central Texas. If the roadside or terrain is not good, I may end up moving up the road to the next town and just do EM03. Hoping for the border though but not sure. Date, Saturday, September 5th, weather permitting of course. I am going to try and make the following FM passes. 1602? AO-92? Max El 10 E 1616 SO-50? Max El 22 SE 16:48 AO-91 Max El 24 E 17:35 AO-92 Max El 32 W 17:52 SO-50 Max El 31 SW 18:24 AO-91 Max El 28 W All times UTC for my AOS. Depending on how things go, I may not make the first or the last pass on this list, but will try if possible, to make all of them. I do not do Twitter so that is not an option for alerting, but think I am in the current Facebook group so may hang out there. During the lulls. Give me a shout please. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 03:51:49 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 23:51:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Two videos about the new ISS crossband repeater Message-ID: Part 1: "The ISS crossband voice repeater is back!" https://youtu.be/6LIgfv_cDCk Part 2: "My first pass on the new ISS crossband voice repeater!" https://youtu.be/M4gYuUgPAWY Congrats to ARISS and all involved on this milestone for the next gen IORS. It sounds great. 73, John Brier KG4AKV From curt.laumann at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 04:37:21 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 21:37:21 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D printing and threaded inserts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul, Right! This 3D printing enables so many different projects, is relatively EASY and LOW COST !!! To share some of the salient points for those not too familiar with 3D printing: A good-quality printer can be had for $250 (Ender3 is a VERY popular printer) Parts the size of your fist cost about $1 to $2 (roughly speaking) As Paul noted, there are materials which nicely survive UV and heat. You could print PETG parts for outside, or in the heat of your car. Parts take between an hour and a day to print, depending on size, complexity and density. FreeCAD software is really, really a nice match to what we do in amateur radio. A couple of hams here in Tucson love it, and it is very nicely suited to making ham radio widgets :) Cura software (also free) is used to take the output of FreeCAD and create "gcode" which drives the 3D printer. The heat insert tool that Paul referred to in his previous email can be seen at the link below: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078K72615/?coliid=I1K4DNMRZKIRXN&colid=2BL2OM2F3I95L&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it As for material, I get filament made by eSun which prints very nicely. I use PLA+ for stuff indoors, and PETG for outdoor products. Fun Fact: I print 27 whistles in a batch (takes 23 hours), add split rings, and give them away as gifts. They're about a dime each. Another Fun Fact: "Thingiverse" contains 1000's of projects that can be printed. All of this information is well known to avid 3D printer people, and I'm sure others can chime in with their perspective / ideas / product recommendations. BOTTOM LINE: If you like to build stuff, ANY stuff, and are willing to learn a very minor amount of software, the payoff is very very high! Curt / K7ZOO Tucson AZ On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Paul Andrews wrote: > Curt, > > Nice presentation. I also started 3D printing in May and recently > discovered heated brass inserts. These items can really expand the range > of possibilities. I have designed a folding satellite dish with 3D printed > parts and waterjet cut aluminum. We recently improved the strength of a > few parts using the brass inserts for M3 bolts. > > A standard soldering iron works nicely but you can achieve better accuracy > using a soldering iron tip specially designed to install the inserts. > > What plastic are you printing? I found that PETG is easy to print, UV > stable and will hold up in summer heat outdoors. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:39 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> To support my interest in building amateur radio equipment I recently dove >> into 3D printing. I'm sure many are aware of the technique below, but >> still others might find it interesting. >> >> *You can easily install threaded brass inserts into 3D printed parts, >> making them very robust and useful.* Feel free to view the PDF file at >> the >> link below for a brief introduction to this technique. >> >> Curt / K7ZOO >> Tucson AZ >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pk_TxQrJCwZ3NnAyDzvdfZ9ijtQBwNNq/view?usp=sharing >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From christophe.mcr at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 05:13:03 2020 From: christophe.mcr at gmail.com (christophe.mcr) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 07:13:03 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) - lauched with success Message-ID: Dear The Vega rocket was successfully launched. The satellites were separated. TLE Les TLE : 1 74002U 14900A 20247.14839410 .00000000 00000-0 50000-4 0 04 2 74002 97.4424 320.0103 0002779 53.5911 328.5572 15.10021350 03 73 Christophe Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> From alozias at live.com Thu Sep 3 05:59:00 2020 From: alozias at live.com (Albert Ozias) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 05:59:00 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact Message-ID: I am encouraged by the numbers of Satellite operators who would also to like to make a DE contact. I appreciate that it is less complicated to set up a portable station for the FM mode but my hope is whomever makes DE available has linear satellite capability. With my present station in western OR I cannot work further east than MT on FM birds but can work the Midwest on CAS-4A/B and the east coast on RS-44. 73 - Al -N7EQF -CN84 From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 12:21:43 2020 From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan N0AN) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 07:21:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 QSL Card In-Reply-To: <235042940.1773741.1599090811663@mail.yahoo.com> References: <235042940.1773741.1599090811663.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <235042940.1773741.1599090811663@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Got mine about 3 days ago. Nice ack 73, N0AN Hasan On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:55 PM Tim Crawford via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Just a reminder to everyone that you can secure a QSL card from the > operators of PO-101 (jpeg image) that they will email you. > TimKE7TAC > > https://twitter.com/Diwata2PH > > Diwata2PH at Diwata2PH?Jan 19[QSL CARDS for QSOs]CQ operators of PO-101! If > you have successfully operated PO-101, you can request a QSL card from us! > Just fill in the necessary info and we'll send it to you as a token of > appreciation for using PO-101 :) QSL Card:QSL Card for QSOs via > PO-101Please fill out the necessary information for your QSL card. Complete > this form for each confirmed QSO. QSL cards will be released at the end of > the month through your provided email. 73docs.google.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ki7unj at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 14:21:06 2020 From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 07:21:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Albert, I'm confused and have to ask as to why you can't work past MT on FM. I'm one gird over from you (CN94) and have worked the entire eastern seaboard and Puerto Rico via FM from here. Do you have some massive mountain blocking you? On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:00 PM Albert Ozias via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > I am encouraged by the numbers of Satellite operators who would also to like to make a DE contact. > I appreciate that it is less complicated to set up a portable station for the FM mode but my hope is whomever makes DE available has linear satellite capability. With my present station in western OR I cannot work further east than MT on FM birds but can work the Midwest on CAS-4A/B and the east coast on RS-44. > 73 - Al -N7EQF -CN84 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Casey Tucker KI7UNJ https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ From revjwo at att.net Thu Sep 3 14:48:13 2020 From: revjwo at att.net (BeetleJerald Oliver) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater References: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414@mail.yahoo.com> I can hear the downlink on 437.800 Mhz great....However, cannot get into the repeater......Is 145.990 Mhz with 67 Hz tone correct ?? ? ? ?Or did I miss something... Jerry? ?KJ4EU From kg4zlb at icloud.com Thu Sep 3 15:03:37 2020 From: kg4zlb at icloud.com (David Worboys) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:03:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: ISS Crossband Repeater References: <192A8736-92A1-407A-B934-9A4AA9023A52@icloud.com> Message-ID: <97B24543-6AEE-4CFB-A666-A3F2A47EDAA7@icloud.com> Yup, thats correct although I had difficulty accessing the repeater for the first 3 or 4 minutes of that last pass - after that it was fine! David KG4ZLB On Sep 3, 2020, at 10:48 AM, BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB wrote: I can hear the downlink on 437.800 Mhz great....However, cannot get into the repeater......Is 145.990 Mhz with 67 Hz tone correct ? Or did I miss something... Jerry KJ4EU _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 15:11:16 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Yono Adisoemarta) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 22:11:16 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 QSL Card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Same here got mine 3 days ago 73 de Yono - YD0NXX Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Hasan N0AN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?Got mine about 3 days ago. Nice ack > 73, N0AN > Hasan > > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:55 PM Tim Crawford via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >> Just a reminder to everyone that you can secure a QSL card from the >> operators of PO-101 (jpeg image) that they will email you. >> TimKE7TAC >> >> https://twitter.com/Diwata2PH >> >> Diwata2PH at Diwata2PH?Jan 19[QSL CARDS for QSOs]CQ operators of PO-101! If >> you have successfully operated PO-101, you can request a QSL card from us! >> Just fill in the necessary info and we'll send it to you as a token of >> appreciation for using PO-101 :) QSL Card:QSL Card for QSOs via >> PO-101Please fill out the necessary information for your QSL card. Complete >> this form for each confirmed QSO. QSL cards will be released at the end of >> the month through your provided email. 73docs.google.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 15:15:24 2020 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 19:15:24 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5D9FB72C-8FFC-47AA-97A3-99C53538BBAE@gmail.com> Jerry, Yes the frequencies and tone (67Hz) are correct. Today, I could here myself very strong (as good as the local repeaters) from very low elevation. Seems that the Tx is quite powerful compared with other birds, on the uplink it works also very well with low power (2W) however sometimes need much more which up to 25W, probably due to the ISS structure occulting the antenna towards the ground station. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:48 PM, BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > I can hear the downlink on 437.800 Mhz great....However, cannot get into the repeater......Is 145.990 Mhz with 67 Hz tone correct ? Or did I miss something... > > Jerry KJ4EU > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 15:15:53 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Yono Adisoemarta) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 22:15:53 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: One thing that I noticed that if one got too excited and speaks too loud / screaming then the audio becomes cut in and out, like there is a limiter on the audio chain. Speaks normally and the down audio is very nice. 73 de Yono - YD0NXX Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2020, at 9:50 PM, BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?I can hear the downlink on 437.800 Mhz great....However, cannot get into the repeater......Is 145.990 Mhz with 67 Hz tone correct ? Or did I miss something... > > Jerry KJ4EU > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Thu Sep 3 15:44:59 2020 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 11:44:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <5D9FB72C-8FFC-47AA-97A3-99C53538BBAE@gmail.com> References: <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2022971617.1975449.1599144493414@mail.yahoo.com> <5D9FB72C-8FFC-47AA-97A3-99C53538BBAE@gmail.com> Message-ID: I was unable to get into the repeater on a 45 deg elevation pass this morning using 5W and an Arrow antenna, but I had a lot of competition. I was able to hear the downlink reasonably well although I did notice the sporadic cutting in and out mentioned by Yono in another post in this thread. Steve AI9IN ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Date: 09/03/20 11:32 To: BeetleJerald Oliver (revjwo at att.net) Cc: AMSAT BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater Jerry, Yes the frequencies and tone (67Hz) are correct. Today, I could here myself very strong (as good as the local repeaters) from very low elevation. Seems that the Tx is quite powerful compared with other birds, on the uplink it works also very well with low power (2W) however sometimes need much more which up to 25W, probably due to the ISS structure occulting the antenna towards the ground station. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) From alozias at live.com Thu Sep 3 16:37:35 2020 From: alozias at live.com (Albert Ozias) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 16:37:35 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Casey, I am confused also. At my former QTH (30 East of my present location) I had M2 CP antennas and could work stations as far as you described. At my present location in Dallas OR my antennas are egg beaters in the attic and work better than I thought they would on linear birds but are poor on the FM satellites. For example, this morning I just worked the new ISS FM V/u system for my first time. I could not receive the downlink until the elevation was greater than 20 and the range was less than 900 km. As soon as the elevation dropped below 20 degrees and the range was greater than 1000 km, I lost my down link. My guess is it is due to polarity mis-match between the satellite and my antennas. 73 - Al - N7EQF ________________________________ From: KI7UNJ Tucker Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 7:21 AM To: Albert Ozias Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact Albert, I'm confused and have to ask as to why you can't work past MT on FM. I'm one gird over from you (CN94) and have worked the entire eastern seaboard and Puerto Rico via FM from here. Do you have some massive mountain blocking you? On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:00 PM Albert Ozias via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > I am encouraged by the numbers of Satellite operators who would also to like to make a DE contact. > I appreciate that it is less complicated to set up a portable station for the FM mode but my hope is whomever makes DE available has linear satellite capability. With my present station in western OR I cannot work further east than MT on FM birds but can work the Midwest on CAS-4A/B and the east coast on RS-44. > 73 - Al -N7EQF -CN84 From ki7unj at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 16:47:23 2020 From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 09:47:23 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Albert, I think you stated your issue in the first paragraph "egg beaters in the attic" On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 9:37 AM Albert Ozias wrote: > > Casey, > I am confused also. At my former QTH (30 East of my present location) I had M2 CP antennas and could work stations as far as you described. At my present location in Dallas OR my antennas are egg beaters in the attic and work better than I thought they would on linear birds but are poor on the FM satellites. > For example, this morning I just worked the new ISS FM V/u system for my first time. I could not receive the downlink until the elevation was greater than 20 and the range was less than 900 km. As soon as the elevation dropped below 20 degrees and the range was greater than 1000 km, I lost my down link. > My guess is it is due to polarity mis-match between the satellite and my antennas. > 73 - Al - N7EQF > > ________________________________ > From: KI7UNJ Tucker > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 7:21 AM > To: Albert Ozias > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Delaware Contact > > Albert, > > I'm confused and have to ask as to why you can't work past MT on FM. > I'm one gird over from you (CN94) and have worked the entire eastern > seaboard and Puerto Rico via FM from here. Do you have some massive > mountain blocking you? > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:00 PM Albert Ozias via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > I am encouraged by the numbers of Satellite operators who would also to like to make a DE contact. > > I appreciate that it is less complicated to set up a portable station for the FM mode but my hope is whomever makes DE available has linear satellite capability. With my present station in western OR I cannot work further east than MT on FM birds but can work the Midwest on CAS-4A/B and the east coast on RS-44. > > 73 - Al -N7EQF -CN84 > -- Casey Tucker KI7UNJ https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ From ki6wj at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 17:25:06 2020 From: ki6wj at yahoo.com (James Brown) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] gprediict and PI References: <1384615810.2845361.1599153906696.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1384615810.2845361.1599153906696@mail.yahoo.com> Hi GuysI want to embark on converting my sat station over to PI 4b computer using gpredict,hamlib and a compatible rotor control unit that will work with Yaesu G5500. I am sure someone out there has done this but I am in need of an elmer! Someone will comment, why. I have my hF stations working fine with PI and I want to send Microsoft to the dungeon! Jim KI6WJ From ke4al at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 17:53:24 2020 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] gprediict and PI In-Reply-To: <1384615810.2845361.1599153906696@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1384615810.2845361.1599153906696.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1384615810.2845361.1599153906696@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <672451643.2852610.1599155604761@mail.yahoo.com> I like Luigi Cruz' PiSDR distro for RPi.? It comes with everything you need. ?? https://pisdr.luigi.ltd/ ?? This would be a great place to start Robert , KE4AL From royldean at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 18:06:12 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:06:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] gprediict and PI Message-ID: > > Hi GuysI want to embark on converting my sat station over to PI 4b > computer using gpredict,hamlib and a compatible rotor control unit that > will work with Yaesu G5500. > I am sure someone out there has done this but I am in need of an elmer! > Someone will comment, why. I have my hF stations working fine with PI and I > want to send Microsoft to the dungeon! > Jim KI6WJ While I don't do it now (I use Ubuntu on a normal pc), my first rotator setup was on a Pi 3B+. There was no secret to it, other than at the time there was a bug in the GS232 code for Hamlib that interfaced with my G-5400B and Fox-Delta ST2. However a code savvy ham submitted an update to Hamlib which is now implemented in their main branch that is specific to the Fox-Delta ST2 controller (608 FoxDelta GS232/ST2). If you follow the setup commands for both software packages, it should be straight forward. --Roy K3RLD From vk5qi at rfhead.net Fri Sep 4 04:28:53 2020 From: vk5qi at rfhead.net (Mark Jessop) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 13:58:53 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS? Message-ID: After noticing that a SatNOGS station (through a fluke of configuration) had decoded a packet [1] on the new repeater downlink frequency, I investigated a bit more and found that all the passes observed recently had 9k6 FSK packet traffic on the downlink. An example packet: [0.4] NA1SS>0P0PS4,APRSAT:'v&<0x1c>l <0x1c>SI]ARISS-ISS PM2=<0x0d> ------ U frame UI: p/f=0, No layer 3 protocol implemented., length = 48 dest 0P0PS4 0 c/r=0 res=3 last=0 source NA1SS 0 c/r=1 res=3 last=0 digi 1 APRSAT 0 h=0 res=3 last=1 000: 60 a0 60 a0 a6 68 60 9c 82 62 a6 a6 40 e0 82 a0 `.`..h`..b.. at ... 010: a4 a6 82 a8 61 03 f0 27 76 26 1c 6c 20 1c 53 49 ....a..'v&.l .SI 020: 5d 41 52 49 53 53 2d 49 53 53 20 50 4d 32 3d 0d ]ARISS-ISS PM2=. ------ Is this being generated within the new Kenwood radio, or somewhere else? What does the packet contain? (It looks like there might be some telemetry in there?) 73 Mark VK5QI [1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2780486/ From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 08:05:59 2020 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 12:05:59 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11C2CE5E-1C58-460F-85E5-3949D820227A@gmail.com> Mark, I also noticed the data stream on the waterfall but when tried to decode it ISS was already too low elevation. Therefore will leave the modem permanently on and forward whatever received to Satnogs and also feedback on the BB. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Sep 4, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Mark Jessop via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > After noticing that a SatNOGS station (through a fluke of configuration) > had decoded a packet [1] on the new repeater downlink frequency, I > investigated a bit more and found that all the passes observed recently had > 9k6 FSK packet traffic on the downlink. > > An example packet: > [0.4] NA1SS>0P0PS4,APRSAT:'v&<0x1c>l <0x1c>SI]ARISS-ISS PM2=<0x0d> > ------ > U frame UI: p/f=0, No layer 3 protocol implemented., length = 48 > dest 0P0PS4 0 c/r=0 res=3 last=0 > source NA1SS 0 c/r=1 res=3 last=0 > digi 1 APRSAT 0 h=0 res=3 last=1 > 000: 60 a0 60 a0 a6 68 60 9c 82 62 a6 a6 40 e0 82 a0 `.`..h`..b.. at ... > 010: a4 a6 82 a8 61 03 f0 27 76 26 1c 6c 20 1c 53 49 ....a..'v&.l .SI > 020: 5d 41 52 49 53 53 2d 49 53 53 20 50 4d 32 3d 0d ]ARISS-ISS PM2=. > ------ > Is this being generated within the new Kenwood radio, or somewhere else? > What does the packet contain? (It looks like there might be some telemetry > in there?) > > 73 > Mark VK5QI > > [1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2780486/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From royldean at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 09:17:56 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 05:17:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM Repeater Report Message-ID: I worked the 9:00z pass this morning (12 degrees max, to my north - typically my best passes). I had to get up early for work and I ended up waking up 2 hours early and not being able to fall back a asleep, so what the heck. The only callsigns on were myself and KE8FZT. Andrew was choppy getting in at half a watt, constantly cutting in and out. When he was getting in, he was clear as day - full quieting. I couldn't get in at all until around TCA, and at that point I was also loud and clear, but couldn't bring up the repeater on every attempt (I'd say I got in every 2nd or 3rd attempt). As soon as the ISS fell below about 6 degrees, I couldn't get in anymore. I was transmitting at 20 watts the whole time. I tried tones from 67 to 88.5 Hz from about 6 degrees to 3 degrees, with no luck. Is this radio connected to the same antenna system that the old packet radio was hooked up to? It really seems to be behaving just like the packet system (hit or miss getting in). --Roy K3RLD From hp2vx at hotmail.com Fri Sep 4 17:53:25 2020 From: hp2vx at hotmail.com (Virgilio Castillo R.) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:53:25 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM Repeater Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Or harder squelched? Virgilio - HP2VX ~ www.qsl.net/hp2vx/ ________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 4:17:56 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM Repeater Report I worked the 9:00z pass this morning (12 degrees max, to my north - typically my best passes). I had to get up early for work and I ended up waking up 2 hours early and not being able to fall back a asleep, so what the heck. The only callsigns on were myself and KE8FZT. Andrew was choppy getting in at half a watt, constantly cutting in and out. When he was getting in, he was clear as day - full quieting. I couldn't get in at all until around TCA, and at that point I was also loud and clear, but couldn't bring up the repeater on every attempt (I'd say I got in every 2nd or 3rd attempt). As soon as the ISS fell below about 6 degrees, I couldn't get in anymore. I was transmitting at 20 watts the whole time. I tried tones from 67 to 88.5 Hz from about 6 degrees to 3 degrees, with no luck. Is this radio connected to the same antenna system that the old packet radio was hooked up to? It really seems to be behaving just like the packet system (hit or miss getting in). --Roy K3RLD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Fri Sep 4 21:36:10 2020 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:36:10 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD Message-ID: As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my satellite station. I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) which I also own. I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone. Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB. 73, Jerry AB5R From n8deu at outlook.com Fri Sep 4 21:50:33 2020 From: n8deu at outlook.com (Tim N8DEU) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:50:33 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Message-ID: Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but the transmit side is a different story. It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu FT-736 and the FT-847. Thank You, Tim Cunningham - N8DEU From chibill110 at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 22:12:15 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:12:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For all my attempts at Satellite ops (Even just listening), i use gPredict. William Gaylord KD9KCK On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 4:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my > satellite station. > > I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am > receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) which I > also own. > > I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have > tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone. > > Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB. > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wageners at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 22:57:11 2020 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:57:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There has been lots of discussion in the past about HRD and its usefulness for satellite tracking and radio control. The consensus has been that HRD is not well suited for these tasks, especially with newer radios like the IC-9700. Yes, it can work but SatPc32 runs circles around it. The other big plus is that if you get your SatPc32 license key from AMSAT, you are actually supporting the organization. That is not the case with HRD or any of the other Windows programs. Most fixed stations use SatPC32 for a reason. It might not be the most elegant program but has a lot of nice features, supports the newest radios, updates are always free, and a lot of folks can help. It's the program that is supported by AMSAT! Hope this helps, Stefan, VE4SW On Fri., Sep. 4, 2020, 5:14 p.m. Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB, < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > For all my attempts at Satellite ops (Even just listening), i use gPredict. > > William Gaylord KD9KCK > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 4:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> > wrote: > > > As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my > > satellite station. > > > > I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am > > receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) > which I > > also own. > > > > I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have > > tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone. > > > > Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB. > > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w3ab at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 23:52:05 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:52:05 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f6178d0-a4c4-42ce-a5fd-a823324b19fc@yahoo.com> Tim, Have you tried simplex contacts? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? > >The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >the transmit side is a different story. > >It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other >stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu >FT-736 and the FT-847. > > >Thank You, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri Sep 4 23:21:00 2020 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 16:21:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d68312$0e2eb3c0$2a8c1b40$@charter.net> Hi Jerry, unfortunately for you, you have stepped on the 'third rail' of questions on the amsat mail list !! I'm sure all kinds of opinions will follow your post...some honest and helpful, but I suspect, a lot of HRD bashing. IMO, both programs have their merits. SatPC32 has the 'graphics' of DOS, but it works. HRD has much better graphics, interfaces with your log, updates keps much easier and works just fine on LEO sats. It has a rep for allegedly not working well with linear sats, but most of those 'opinions' are from people that used the program 20 years ago. I suggest the tried and proven course of action: use the trial versions of both programs and see what works best for YOU... A lot of new development has been done on HRD's Sat program in recent years...not much on SatPC32. For me, I used HRD to get VUCC #226...I have yet to be able to configure SAT PC 32 for use with my TS2000's...maybe that's on me...but, as I say, the fairest test is what works for YOU... In either case, I wish you GL !!! 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:36 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my satellite station. I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) which I also own. I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone. Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB. 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8deu at outlook.com Sat Sep 5 03:59:02 2020 From: n8deu at outlook.com (Tim N8DEU) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 03:59:02 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: <7f6178d0-a4c4-42ce-a5fd-a823324b19fc@yahoo.com> References: , <7f6178d0-a4c4-42ce-a5fd-a823324b19fc@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the same results. - Tim ________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Tim, Have you tried simplex contacts? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? > >The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >the transmit side is a different story. > >It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other >stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu >FT-736 and the FT-847. > > >Thank You, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From revjwo at att.net Sat Sep 5 15:14:14 2020 From: revjwo at att.net (BeetleJerald Oliver) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> For LoTW purposes, is the crossband repeater logged? as ISS-FM, or just ISS.? Just made my 1st contact thru the repeater this morning.... Jerry? ?KJ4EU From kg4zlb at icloud.com Sat Sep 5 15:19:13 2020 From: kg4zlb at icloud.com (David Worboys) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:19:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1B9D1ED1-4124-4BF2-9F12-9FC6E918FE82@icloud.com> Its ARISS for LoTW purposes 73 David KG4ZLB On Sep 5, 2020, at 11:14 AM, BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB wrote: For LoTW purposes, is the crossband repeater logged as ISS-FM, or just ISS. Just made my 1st contact thru the repeater this morning.... Jerry KJ4EU _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Sat Sep 5 15:56:35 2020 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald Parsons) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:56:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and the ISS repeater Message-ID: <01c201d6839d$220c64b0$66252e10$@w5rkn.com> To be consistent with other satellites, which use the popular keps satellite name as the LoTW satellite name, LoTW should accept "ISS" as a satellite name along with "ARISS" Cc: LoTW-help at arrl.org Ron W5RKN From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Sep 5 16:15:23 2020 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 12:15:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and the ISS repeater In-Reply-To: <01c201d6839d$220c64b0$66252e10$@w5rkn.com> References: <01c201d6839d$220c64b0$66252e10$@w5rkn.com> Message-ID: I don?t believe the LoTW system has a way to create a satellite name alias. ARISS has always been the LoTW name for the ISS amateur radio systems. Since a QSO has to match satellite names, creating another one would cause serious problems unless the LoTW developers implemented some form of alias to allow ARISS to match with ISS. It?s possible this could be implemented locally in TQSL to allow an ADIF SAT_NAME of ISS to be read as a LoTW satellite name of ARISS at log signing time. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 11:57 Ronald Parsons via AMSAT-BB wrote: > To be consistent with other satellites, which use the popular keps > satellite > > name as the LoTW satellite name, LoTW should accept "ISS" as a satellite > > name along with "ARISS" > > > > > > > > Cc: LoTW-help at arrl.org > > > > > > > > Ron W5RKN > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From pinoleronica at hotmail.com Sat Sep 5 18:45:28 2020 From: pinoleronica at hotmail.com (Rafael Pena) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 18:45:28 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr. Payton, thanks for the many Qs in sat mod. I have used HRD with 9100 but it was caos....never / will not work, they claim is the Icom 9100 problem :( ...but since we are in the Icom 9700 once you talk to the radio which is not that difficult to do and setup the rotator. The display of the sats is awesome. One can track the sats via Elevation, World Map, or Radar. ....then....I have found that in many instances I have to enter the sat frequency, mode, etc., which can happen with any other software....logging now....kind of cumbersome to log a Sat qso...too many steps just to do one Sat log ...the software does not detect automatically the sat name...or maybe I don't know how to use it..... doppler works ok... Then I also used / tested Log40M...great software which allows just about anything, log, uploads, doppler, sat updates, rotor control, etc. Display of sats is neat. Very easy to setup...My issues were with uploading to eQSL...the contacts were not being uploaded properly...rejected by the other operator because of the wrong mode or something like that. LotW, QRZ was ok...just eQSL had this issue...maybe is fix with newer version. It was many months ago and I could not be manually uploding to eQSL. Now comes SatPC32. In conjunction with DXLab suite of apps, the Icom 9700 can be used in both, non-sat and sat mode as the software knows SatPC32 movements. DXKeeper automatically knows the name of satellite, mode, freq, time, etc. Loggin is a breeze....and properly setup it will tell you all of the needed information from the other operator; grid, name, qth, etc. Uploads to LotW, eQSL, QRZ are possible. My $.05 .... NN3RP / Rafael ******************************************** Message: 7 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:36:10 +0000 From: Gerald Payton To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my satellite station. I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) which I also own. I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone. Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB. 73, Jerry AB5R ------------------------------ From w3ab at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 20:00:16 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 20:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: References: <7f6178d0-a4c4-42ce-a5fd-a823324b19fc@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1281658284.3624481.1599336016919@mail.yahoo.com> Can you look at the deviation? ---? Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side?? 73 de W3AB/GEO ??? http://www.w3ab.org You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out". On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU wrote: Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the same results. - TimFrom: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC?Tim, Have you tried simplex contacts? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? > >The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >the transmit side is a different story. > >It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other >stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu >FT-736 and the FT-847. > > >Thank You, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sun Sep 6 00:04:02 2020 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 20:04:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Manual Tracking ISS pass times Message-ID: For those who dont keep an up-to-date ISS tracking program always handy, I find it easy to remember that in general ISS passes are about 23 minutes later each day, but overall ,moving Earlier by 51 minutes every other day. See the plot about 40% down this page: http://aprs.org/MobileLEOtracking.html Nice to remember when you dont have access to heavens-above.com Again the actual orbit is moving earlier each day, but almost repeats every other day. Bob From robert.machale at yahoo.com Sun Sep 6 00:11:44 2020 From: robert.machale at yahoo.com (Robert MacHale) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 00:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Manual Tracking ISS pass times In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1718247296.3647464.1599351104422@mail.yahoo.com> Also - this is helpful for tracking upcoming passes of the ISS + all APRS satellites. It defaults the GPS location to your IP address. To improve accuracy enter exact GPS coordinates in the fields on the right of the screen. http://www.aprsat.com/predict Feel free to share. 73 Robert MacHale . KE6BLR FCC Licensed Radio Operator? .?http://www.aprsat.com/predict .?http://www.spaceCommunicator.club? . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration Silly Joke:?What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi Cliff! He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- THOMAS PAINE There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. -- ERNEST HEMINGWAY On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 05:06:31 PM PDT, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB wrote: For those who dont keep an up-to-date ISS tracking program always handy, I find it easy to remember that in general ISS passes are about 23 minutes later each day, but overall ,moving Earlier by 51 minutes every other day. See the plot about 40% down this page: http://aprs.org/MobileLEOtracking.html Nice to remember when you dont have access to heavens-above.com Again the actual orbit is moving earlier each day, but almost repeats every other day. Bob _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k0jm.mark at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 12:52:13 2020 From: k0jm.mark at gmail.com (Mark Johns, K0JM) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 07:52:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-250 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-250 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun- icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. 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DATE 2020 Sept 06 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-250.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- First Element of ARISSNext Generation (Next-Gen) Radio System Installed in ISS ColumbusModule September2, 2020?The ARISS team is pleased to announce that installa- tion and set up of the first element of the InterOperable Radio System (IORS) has been completed and amateur radio operations with it are now underway. This first element, was installed in the International Space Station Columbus module. The IORS replaces the Ericsson radio system and packet module that were originally certified for spaceflight on July 26, 2000. Initial operation of the new radio system is in FM cross bandrepeater mode using an uplink frequency of 145.99 MHz with an access tone of 67Hz and a downlink frequency of 437.800 MHz. System activation was first observed at 01:02 UTC on September 2. Special operations will continue to be announced. The IORS was launched from Kennedy Space Center on March 6, 2020 on board the SpaceX CRS-20 resupply mission. It consists of a special, space-modified JVC Kenwood D710GA transceiver, an ARISS developed multi-voltage power supply and interconnecting cables. The design, development, fabrication, testing, and launch of the first IORS was an incredible five-year engineering achievement accomplished by the ARISS hardware volunteer team. It will enable new and exciting capabilities for ham radio operators, students, and the general public. Capabilities include a higher power radio, voice repeater, digital packet radio (APRS) capabilities and a Kenwood VC-H1 slow scan television (SSTV) system. A second IORS undergoes flight certification and will be launched later for installation in the Russian Service module. This second system en- ables dual, simultaneous operations, (e.g. voice repeater and APRS packet), providing diverse opportunities for radio amateurs. It also provides on-orbit redundancy to ensure continuous operations in the event of an IORS component failure. Next-gen development efforts continue. For the IORS, parts are being procured and a total of ten systems are being fabricated to support flight, additional flight spares, ground testing and astronaut train- ing. Follow-on next generation radio system elements include an L-band repeater uplink capability, currently in development, and a flight Raspberry-Pi, dubbed ?ARISS-Pi, ?that is just beginning the design phase. The ARISS-Pi promises operations autonomy and enhanced SSTV operations. ARISS is run almost entirely by volunteers, and with the help of gener- ous contributions from ARISS sponsors and individuals. Donations to the ARISS program for next generation hardware developments, operations, education, and administration are welcome -- please go to https://www.ariss.org/donate.html to contribute to these efforts. (ANS thanks Dave Jordan, AA4KN of ARISS PR for the above information) --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARLB021 FCC Application Fee Proposal Proceeding is Open for Comments Comments are being accepted on the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) in MD Docket 20-270, which proposes application fees for radio amateurs. Formal deadlines for comments and reply comments will be determined once the NPRM appears in the Federal Register. Comments may be filed now by using the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System (ECFS), located at https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings, and posting to MD Docket N o. 20-270. The docket is already open for accepting comments, even though deadlines have not yet been set. The NPRM can be found online in PDF format at: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-20-116A1.pdf. A review current of information on this proposal follows: Amateur radio licensees would pay a $50 fee for each amateur radio li- cense application if the FCC adopts rules it proposed this week. In- cluded in the FCC?s fee proposal are applications for new licenses, re- newal and upgrades to existing licenses, and vanity call sign requests. Excluded are applications for administrative updates, such as changes of address, and annual regulatory fees. The FCC proposal is contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) in MD Docket 20-270, which was adopted to implement portions of the ?Repack Airwaves Yielding Better Access for Users of Modern Services Act? of 2018 ? the so-called ?Ray Baum?s Act." The Act requires that the FCC switch from a Congressionally-mandated fee structure to a cost-based system of assessment. In its NPRM, the FCC proposed application fees for a broad range of services that use the FCC?s Universal Licensing System (ULS), including the Amateur Radio Service that had been excluded by an earlier statute. The 2018 statute excludes the Amateur Service from annual regulatory fees, but not from application fees. ?Applications for personal licenses are mostly automated and do not have individualized staff costs for data input or review,? the FCC said in its NPRM. ?For these automated processes ? new/major modifications, renewal, and minor modifications ? we propose a nominal application fee of $50 due to automating the processes, routine ULS maintenance, and limited instances where staff input is required.? The same $50 fee would apply to all Amateur Service applications, in- cluding those for vanity call signs. ?Although there is currently no fee for vanity call signs in the Amateur Radio Service, we find that such applications impose similar costs in aggregate on Commission re- sources as new applications and therefore propose a $50 fee,? the FCC said. The FCC is not proposing to charge for administrative updates, such as mailing address changes for amateur applications, and amateur radio will remain exempt from annual regulatory fees. ?For administrative up- dates [and] modifications, which also are highly automated, we find that it is in the public interest to encourage licensees to update their [own] information without a charge,? the FCC said. The FCC also proposes to assess a $50 fee for individuals who want a printed copy of their license. ?The Commission has proposed to elimi- nate these services ? but to the extent the Commission does not do so, we propose a fee of $50 to cover the costs of these services,? the FCC said. The Ray Baum?s Act does not exempt filing fees in the Amateur Radio Service. The FCC dropped assessment of fees for vanity call signs sev- eral years ago. Deadlines for comments and reply comments will be determined once the NPRM appears in the Federal Register. Interested parties may file com- ments by using the FCC?s Electronic Comment Filing System (ECFS), post- ing to MD Docket No. 20-270. This docket is already open to accept com- ments, even thoughdeadlines have not yet been set. [ANS thanks ARRL News for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office is closed until further notice. For details, please visit https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Vega rocket (VV16) was sucessfully launched September 3, 2020. The rocket left Kourou on 3 September, 2020 at 01h51 UTC with 53 satellites on board. One of the satellites launched is the Amicalsat satellite built by the CSUG (Centre Spatial Universitaire Grenoblois). Measure- ments made by the satellite will be available to all and will assist radio amateurs in making propagation predictions. The project's website (in English) has just been put online: https://bit.ly/2YWfs5B AMSAT-F supported this project. Additional information may be found at: https://bit.ly/3lHxiCY Linux & Windows Software is provided for decoding the Amicalsat tele- metry and for sending it to the SatNogs database. An English version of the user manual is available at: https://bit.ly/2QILo8S Beacon Frequency Modes Callsign UHF 436.1 MHz AFSK 1200 RS17S S band 2,415.3 MHz GFSK 1000 kb/s https://bit.ly/31LGgaq Reports are welcome. Thank you for your help. The first 5 people who receive a frame from AmicalSat will receive a gift. To submit your frame uses the satnogs SIDS or email satellite at adri38.fr. 2 other satellites are on this mission: Satellites beacon frequency Modes Identifier UPMSat-2 UHF 437.405 MHz AFSK 1200 UPMST2 TTU100 Primary UHF 435.450 MHz 1k2, 9k6, CW TTU100 TTU100 Secondary SHF 10465.000 MHz OPSK 62.5 Kbs and 20 Mbs Links: UPMSat-2: https://bit.ly/2EL4VTO TTU100: https://bit.ly/2QXRmmN Projected TLE (Updated 03 September, 2020 after launch announcement): 1 74002U 14900A 20247.14839410 .00000000 00000-0 50000-4 0 04 2 74002 97.4424 320.0103 0002779 53.5911 328.5572 15.10021350 03 [ANS thanks Christophe Mercier, Amsat-F chairman for the above informa- tion] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows, and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space. https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ TEVEL Mission Nears Projected Launch DATE TEVEL, a mission with eight identical CubeSats, has been coordinated and approved by the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU), and is scheduled for launch from India sometime this fall. The project, lead by the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya, a private research college in Herzliya, Israel, consists of high-school students? educational sat- ellite experiments that involve telemetry beacons for educational re- search activities. But also on board are FM amateur radio transponders. Telemetry will 9k6 BPSK AX25 telemetry downlinks. But each satellite can be commanded to operate as U/V FM transponders. Planning a launch into a 580 km 98 degree orbit in September 2020. The eight spacecraft in the TEVEL mission, identified as T1OFK, T2YRC, T3TYB, T4ATA, T5SNG, T6NZR, T7ADM, T8GBS will all downlink for beacon, telemetry and trans- ponder on 436.400 MHz and the transponder input on 145.970 MHz. [ANS thanks IARU for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Want to fly the colors on your own grid expedition? Get your AMSAT car flag and other neat stuff from our Zazzle store! 25% of the purchase price of each product goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Changes to the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for September 3, 2020 The names of the following satellites have been changed as follows: S-Net G (Cat ID 43186) is now S-Net D S-Net H (Cat ID 43186) is now S-Net B S-Net J (Cat ID 43186) is now S-Net A S-Net K (Cat ID 43186) is now S-Net C Thanks to Sebastian Lange (DL7BST) for the above update. Arianespace launched 53 new satellites on Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 01:51 UTC on a Vega POC (Proof of Concept) mission to test their new SSMS (Small Spacecraft Mission Service) satellite dispenser. At least two new satellites, TTU-100 and UPMSAT 2, carry amateur radio transmitters have been placed in orbit. So far only UPMSAT 2 has been identified as Cat ID 46277. More later. The following satellite has been and added to this week's AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: UPMSat 2 - Cat ID 46277. Thanks to Nico Janssen, PA0DLO, for determining which object is UPMSat 2. [ANS thanks Ray Hoad, WA5QGD, AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- VUCC Awards-Endorsements for September 2020 Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period August 1, 2020 through September 1, 2020. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL August September K8YSE 1926 1935 This was missed last month WA5KBH 759 766 W5RKN 708 721 AA8CH 641 702 N6UK 675 687 N0JE 652 655 NS3L 575 600 KI7UNJ 527 551 AD0HJ 450 478 AF5CC 425 461 KE8FZT 428 450 N9FN 403 450 PS8ET 434 450 W7JSD 355 375 WA9JBQ 326 355 KC9UQR 326 351 KC9VGG 310 336 N3CRT 200 303 K0JM New 300 KS1G 233 285 WW8W 228 260 K5CIS 150 250 KX9X 100 219 WB7QXU 140 204 KF6JOQ 101 201 WD9EWK 164 176 (from DM41) KX9X New 175 (from EN50) LW2DAF 130 166 W8LR 100 149 KB9STR 104 138 K1PAD New 130 DF2ET New 129 WA8ZID New 126 PP2RON New 106 KI4ASK New 105 KO4AQF New 104 K5TA New 101 LU3FCA 100 101 NA1ME New 100 If you find errors or omissions, please contact Ron Parsons W5RKN at @.com and he will revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for two months. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! [ANS thanks Ron Parsons, W5RKN for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS NEWS Amateurs and others around the world may listen in on contacts between amateurs operating in schools and allowing students to interact with astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the International Space Station. The downlink frequency on which to listen is 145.800 MHz worldwide. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-01 01:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: The KMO Kolska Wyspa, Ko?o, Poland, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Wed 2020-09-02 12:58:11 UTC 75 deg There has been no report about the success of this contact. College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg There is a new radio on board the ISS. The Kenwood D710GA is now in use. The crossband repeater is now avail- able when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts. The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down. Watch the Doppler on the downlink. ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general. As such, we may have last minute cancella- tions or postponements of school contacts. As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates. The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19: Postponed: Green Bank Elementary Middle School, Green Bank, WV Cancelled: No new schools [ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N, one of the ARISS operation team men- tors for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur radio package, including two-way communication capability, to be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Upcoming Satellite Operations DM07, DM08: N6REK will be on vacation next week in the Eastern Sierra and plans to work AO-91, AO-92 and PO-101 from the DM07/08 gridline on a holiday schedule from Wednesday, Sept. 2 to Saturday, Sept. 5. Watch the AMSAT BB for details. @WA9JBQ has been working through Idaho hitting DN24,DN25,DN26 DN34, DN16, DN15, and DN14. He started August 15th, then moved into Montana for DN35,DN36, DN37, DN38 DN49 DN47. He will be out a total of 5-6 weeks working mostly FM but also some linear birds. Details will be posted on twitter.com. @AD7DB is heading out to hit a few grids: #Roving announcement! He hopes to activate on Fri 9/11/20 and Sun 9/13 include DM06, DM07, DM08, DM16, DM17 and DM18. He will operate all day Saturday 9/12 from DM19. He is taking just FM gear. More info as date gets closer at: https://twitter.com/ad7db/status/1300217001726500865 [ANS thanks Paul Overnfor, KE0PBR, AMSAT rover page manager, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events Clint Bradford K6LCS has booked his ?Work the FM Voice Satellites With Minimal Equipment? presentation for the following clubs: 09/02/2020 ? Garden State ARA, New Jersey 09/14/2020 ? North Agusta Belevedere Radio Club 10/27/2020 ? Cherryland ARC / Traverse Bay ARC TBD ? Antelope Valley (CA) ARC TBD ? A private presentation fo a Boy Scout troop in Danville, PA These will be Zoom presentations. Everyone is asked to update their copies of the Zoom application ? by directly visiting Zoom.us. [ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT VP-User Services for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + 4A50, MEXICO (Special Event). Look for special event station 4A50CRH to be active between September 1st and December 31st. Activity is to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Club de Radioaficionados Hidro- calidos (XE2CRH). Operations will be on 160-6 meter, satellites, CW, SSB, FM, and the Digital modes. QSL via XE2AU, LoTW, eQSL or ClubLog. Every QSO will be confirmed. (ANS thanks the Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin for the above information) + Flying for the first time since a failure in early July, Rocket Lab?s Electron launcher delivered Capella Space?s first commercial radar remote sensing satellite to orbit after lifting off from New Zealand on Sunday, August 30. The successful mission signaled a return to launch operations for Rocket Lab after suffering a failure on the last Electron flight July 4. Investigators traced the cause of the failure to a single faulty electrical connector on the second stage, which detached in flight and led to a premature engine shutdown. (ANS thanks Spaceflight Now for the above information) + A Falcon 9 rocket dodged stormy weather and successfully placed an Argentine radar observation satellite into an orbit over Earth?s poles Sunday on SpaceX?s 100th launch. Instead of launching toward the northeast or east, the Falcon 9 darted through a cloudy sky and arced to the south-southeast from Florida?s Space Coast, then made a right turn to fly along the east coast of Florida over Fort Lauder- dale and Miami on the way to a polar orbit. The launch Sunday was the first from Cape Canaveral to fly on a southerly track since 1969. (ANS thanks Spaceflight Now for the above information) + A long-retired NASA satellite burned up in Earth's atmosphere last weekend, the agency has confirmed. NASA launched the satellite, c alled Orbiting Geophysics Observatory 1, or OGO-1, in September 1964, the first in a series of five missions to help scientists understand the magnetic environment around Earth. OGO-1 was the first to launch but the last to fall out of orbit; the satellite had circled Earth aimlessly since its retirement in 1971. (ANS thanks space.com for the above information) + Dave, AA4KN relays that Patrice, 3B8FA, and Jean Marc, 3B8DU, held a successful QSO using the new IORS, repeater function: Jean Marc wrote: "Just to let you know that Patrice (3B8FA) and myself did superb QSO via the ISS FM repeater just a few minutes ago (reported 2 September, 2020 @ 02:22:30). Working fine 59+ both ways on V/U (145.990/437.800 MHz), really nice to have the ISS repeater back on air." (ANS thanks Dave AA4KN of ARISS PR for the report) --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73 and Remember to help keep amateur radio in space, This week's ANS Editor, Jack Spitznagel, KD4IZ kd4iz at frawg dot org From w3ab at yahoo.com Sun Sep 6 18:28:24 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC References: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133@mail.yahoo.com> Tim, It seems a modulation issue of some type. I don't have a 9700 but I do have a 7600 and had a modulation distortion problem. When using the accessory port insure that "DATA OFF MOD" is set only to "ACC", not "MIC+ACC". All the others should be set to "USB". ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEOOn Sep 5, 2020, at 22:00, Tim N8DEU wrote: I made several measurements with the deviation starting at 0.75 kHz up to 4.00 kHz in 0.25 kHz steps. At each step 10 packets were transmitted and multiple receivers were used for decoding. At no point did the success rate go above 50% decoding. At 3.25 kHz and 3.50 kHz the transmit decode rate was 50%. All other settings were less. ? The Kantronics 9616 cannot drive the IC-9700 any higher than 4.07 kHz deviation and that level is achieved at XMITLVL = 114. Increasing the XMITLVL does not produce any additional increase in FM deviation using the square wave tone from the CALIBRATE mode. ? I have worked with 1200 baud packet for 33 years and set up quite a number of systems and this one will require some more observation. The same Kantronics 9612 connected to a Yaesu FT-736 or and an FT-847 show a 100% packet decode rate at 1200 baud. Both of these radio?s work fine at 9600 baud which is something not mentioned anywhere for the IC-9700. ? I was checking to see if others are having issues with the IC-9700. This started with a friend asking questions for the past 2 months about having trouble with the IC-9700 connected to a KAM XL and I walked him through all the logical steps. Finally, I decided I better try hooking my 9612 up to the Accessory Port to see how it works. This should not be too complicated. My results were exactly the same poor results he encountered on transmitting 1200 baud packets. ? Increasing TX Delay does nothing to help as that does not seem to be the issue. ? 1200 baud packets are decoded through the receiver perfectly fine. ? The problem is transmitting 1200 baud packets for a successful decode rate on the IC-9700 through the Accessory Port. ? ? ? Best Regards, Tim Cunningham ? N8DEU ? ? ? From: GEO Badger Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:00 PM To: Tim N8DEU Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC ? Can you look at the deviation? ? ---? Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side ?? 73 de W3AB/GEO ??? http://www.w3ab.org You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out". ? ? On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU wrote: ? ? Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. ? Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the same results. ? ? - Tim From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC ? Tim, Have you tried simplex contacts? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? > >The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >the transmit side is a different story. > >It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other >stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu >FT-736 and the FT-847. > > >Thank You, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ? From n8deu at outlook.com Sun Sep 6 20:48:55 2020 From: n8deu at outlook.com (Tim N8DEU) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 20:48:55 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2081713883.787830.1599416904133@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I stopped guessing and started measuring. The data holds the answer after a deeper dive into this issue. The audio is not distorted. The problem with the ICOM IC-9700 and both Kantronics 9612 and KAM XL setups is a very old problem. I knew something seemed familiar about the decode problem, but it was 33 years ago. After measuring the IC-9700 signals on a service monitor and viewing the signal on an oscilloscope hooked to a Kenwood TH-D7a headphone jack, the picture was very clear. I discovered the old twisted audio problem where the higher 2100 Hz tone is much lower in amplitude than the lower 1300 Hz tone. Why does this matter? The XR2211 demodulators had immense trouble decoding packets with this condition and so does the TH-D7a with a Tasco modem, but the Tasco modem decodes ~50% of something where the XR2211 does not decode anything. When (Amplow*cos(FreqLow)) is close to the same value as (Amphigh*cos(FreqHigh)) the performance is not good on an XR2211 decoder nor a Tasco modem chip. Early in the days of 1200 baud TAPR packet modem designs it was discovered the higher tone needed to be 20 dB higher. In other words, you at least need some pre-empahasis on the transmit signal for it to be decoded and obtain some noise reduction. There is no pre-emphasis on the transmit signal from the IC-9700 Accessory Port based on the results I measured. The low tone is about 1.47 times higher than the high tone relative to the deviation measured. When I measure the two tones levels with an oscilloscope tied to the TH-D7a headphone jack, I measure the low tone is 1.29 times higher than the high tone. Both of the audio tones output from the Kantronics 9612 are the same level at roughly 50mV. Thus, the 9700 clearly alters the signal levels on the two tones in a less than desirable fashion! I have not tried sending audio through the microphone connector yet, but I would hope it would at least have pre-emphasis for better results on boosting the high tone. Before I pass judgement, I will present the data to ICOM on the topic. Hopefully, the response I get will be better than what my friend received from them. They claimed to him the TNC keys the radio and it passes the audio as if they have no problem in the equation. In their defense, they did not understand the problem, but they did not pursue it either. Their response was correct from a simplistic view, but what their radio does or does not do with the audio can break everything. Pete, N4YOT, found if he sent 2 duplicate packets back to back with his KAM XL, the transmitted packet would be decoded. This raised the possibility the TXDelay might be the culprit initially from his results. However, that gets into the 50% packet decode rate. When I hooked up my Kantronics 9612 on my end to the IC-9700, I experienced the same problem as Pete and he worked on this for the past 2 months getting nowhere and little help from ICOM. I finally hooked up the 9612 to the IC-9700 to take a look for myself. It quickly became obvious there is a lack of pre-emphasis on the high tone when the data is transmitted. In fact, the emphasis is on the low tone or the high tone is being attenuated!!! The end result is poor decoding of that transmitted signal when the low tone is higher in amplitude than the high tone. There is indeed a problem with the ICOM IC-9700 using the Accessory Port with 1200 baud packet. This requires a hardware modification on the 9612 to implement a filter to reverse these effects unless ICOM can provide some insight on how it can be accomplished with their radio where the problem exists. Let's see what ICOM has to say with the detailed measurements I collected. Best Regards, Tim Cunningham - N8DEU From: GEO Badger Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:28 PM To: Tim N8DEU Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Tim, It seems a modulation issue of some type. I don't have a 9700 but I do have a 7600 and had a modulation distortion problem. When using the accessory port insure that "DATA OFF MOD" is set only to "ACC", not "MIC+ACC". All the others should be set to "USB". ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO On Sep 5, 2020, at 22:00, Tim N8DEU > wrote: I made several measurements with the deviation starting at 0.75 kHz up to 4.00 kHz in 0.25 kHz steps. At each step 10 packets were transmitted and multiple receivers were used for decoding. At no point did the success rate go above 50% decoding. At 3.25 kHz and 3.50 kHz the transmit decode rate was 50%. All other settings were less. The Kantronics 9616 cannot drive the IC-9700 any higher than 4.07 kHz deviation and that level is achieved at XMITLVL = 114. Increasing the XMITLVL does not produce any additional increase in FM deviation using the square wave tone from the CALIBRATE mode. I have worked with 1200 baud packet for 33 years and set up quite a number of systems and this one will require some more observation. The same Kantronics 9612 connected to a Yaesu FT-736 or and an FT-847 show a 100% packet decode rate at 1200 baud. Both of these radio?s work fine at 9600 baud which is something not mentioned anywhere for the IC-9700. I was checking to see if others are having issues with the IC-9700. This started with a friend asking questions for the past 2 months about having trouble with the IC-9700 connected to a KAM XL and I walked him through all the logical steps. Finally, I decided I better try hooking my 9612 up to the Accessory Port to see how it works. This should not be too complicated. My results were exactly the same poor results he encountered on transmitting 1200 baud packets. Increasing TX Delay does nothing to help as that does not seem to be the issue. 1200 baud packets are decoded through the receiver perfectly fine. The problem is transmitting 1200 baud packets for a successful decode rate on the IC-9700 through the Accessory Port. Best Regards, Tim Cunningham ? N8DEU From: GEO Badger Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:00 PM To: Tim N8DEU Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Can you look at the deviation? --- Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side 73 de W3AB/GEO http://www.w3ab.org You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out". On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU wrote: Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the same results. - Tim From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Tim, Have you tried simplex contacts? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? > >The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >the transmit side is a different story. > >It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other >stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu >FT-736 and the FT-847. > > >Thank You, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Sun Sep 6 21:22:58 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:22:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: References: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2081713883.787830.1599416904133@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0f73522b-d06f-43be-b765-2b91b2d1b3f3@yahoo.com> Very good Tim. Thanks for diving in so deeply. BTW, have you tried the TX audio EQ? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 6, 2020, 13:48, at 13:48, Tim N8DEU wrote: > >I stopped guessing and started measuring. The data holds the answer >after a deeper dive into this issue. > >The audio is not distorted. > >The problem with the ICOM IC-9700 and both Kantronics 9612 and KAM XL >setups is a very old problem. I knew something seemed familiar about >the decode problem, but it was 33 years ago. After measuring the >IC-9700 signals on a service monitor and viewing the signal on an >oscilloscope hooked to a Kenwood TH-D7a headphone jack, the picture was >very clear. I discovered the old twisted audio problem where the higher >2100 Hz tone is much lower in amplitude than the lower 1300 Hz tone. >Why does this matter? The XR2211 demodulators had immense trouble >decoding packets with this condition and so does the TH-D7a with a >Tasco modem, but the Tasco modem decodes ~50% of something where the >XR2211 does not decode anything. > >When (Amplow*cos(FreqLow)) is close to the same value as >(Amphigh*cos(FreqHigh)) the performance is not good on an XR2211 >decoder nor a Tasco modem chip. Early in the days of 1200 baud TAPR >packet modem designs it was discovered the higher tone needed to be 20 >dB higher. In other words, you at least need some pre-empahasis on the >transmit signal for it to be decoded and obtain some noise reduction. >There is no pre-emphasis on the transmit signal from the IC-9700 >Accessory Port based on the results I measured. The low tone is about >1.47 times higher than the high tone relative to the deviation >measured. When I measure the two tones levels with an oscilloscope tied >to the TH-D7a headphone jack, I measure the low tone is 1.29 times >higher than the high tone. > >Both of the audio tones output from the Kantronics 9612 are the same >level at roughly 50mV. Thus, the 9700 clearly alters the signal levels >on the two tones in a less than desirable fashion! > >I have not tried sending audio through the microphone connector yet, >but I would hope it would at least have pre-emphasis for better results >on boosting the high tone. > >Before I pass judgement, I will present the data to ICOM on the topic. >Hopefully, the response I get will be better than what my friend >received from them. They claimed to him the TNC keys the radio and it >passes the audio as if they have no problem in the equation. In their >defense, they did not understand the problem, but they did not pursue >it either. Their response was correct from a simplistic view, but what >their radio does or does not do with the audio can break everything. >Pete, N4YOT, found if he sent 2 duplicate packets back to back with his >KAM XL, the transmitted packet would be decoded. This raised the >possibility the TXDelay might be the culprit initially from his >results. However, that gets into the 50% packet decode rate. > >When I hooked up my Kantronics 9612 on my end to the IC-9700, I >experienced the same problem as Pete and he worked on this for the past >2 months getting nowhere and little help from ICOM. I finally hooked up >the 9612 to the IC-9700 to take a look for myself. It quickly became >obvious there is a lack of pre-emphasis on the high tone when the data >is transmitted. In fact, the emphasis is on the low tone or the high >tone is being attenuated!!! The end result is poor decoding of that >transmitted signal when the low tone is higher in amplitude than the >high tone. There is indeed a problem with the ICOM IC-9700 using the >Accessory Port with 1200 baud packet. > >This requires a hardware modification on the 9612 to implement a filter >to reverse these effects unless ICOM can provide some insight on how it >can be accomplished with their radio where the problem exists. > >Let's see what ICOM has to say with the detailed measurements I >collected. > > >Best Regards, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > > >From: GEO Badger >Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:28 PM >To: Tim N8DEU >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > >Tim, > >It seems a modulation issue of some type. > >I don't have a 9700 but I do have a 7600 and had a modulation >distortion problem. When using the accessory port insure that "DATA OFF >MOD" is set only to "ACC", not "MIC+ACC". All the others should be set >to "USB". > >___ >Sent from my two way wrist watch >73 de W3AB/GEO >On Sep 5, 2020, at 22:00, Tim N8DEU >> wrote: > >I made several measurements with the deviation starting at 0.75 kHz up >to 4.00 kHz in 0.25 kHz steps. At each step 10 packets were transmitted >and multiple receivers were used for decoding. At no point did the >success rate go above 50% decoding. At 3.25 kHz and 3.50 kHz the >transmit decode rate was 50%. All other settings were less. > > > >The Kantronics 9616 cannot drive the IC-9700 any higher than 4.07 kHz >deviation and that level is achieved at XMITLVL = 114. Increasing the >XMITLVL does not produce any additional increase in FM deviation using >the square wave tone from the CALIBRATE mode. > > > >I have worked with 1200 baud packet for 33 years and set up quite a >number of systems and this one will require some more observation. The >same Kantronics 9612 connected to a Yaesu FT-736 or and an FT-847 show >a 100% packet decode rate at 1200 baud. Both of these radio?s work fine >at 9600 baud which is something not mentioned anywhere for the IC-9700. > > > >I was checking to see if others are having issues with the IC-9700. >This started with a friend asking questions for the past 2 months about >having trouble with the IC-9700 connected to a KAM XL and I walked him >through all the logical steps. Finally, I decided I better try hooking >my 9612 up to the Accessory Port to see how it works. This should not >be too complicated. My results were exactly the same poor results he >encountered on transmitting 1200 baud packets. > > > >Increasing TX Delay does nothing to help as that does not seem to be >the issue. > > > >1200 baud packets are decoded through the receiver perfectly fine. > > > >The problem is transmitting 1200 baud packets for a successful decode >rate on the IC-9700 through the Accessory Port. > > > > > > > >Best Regards, > >Tim Cunningham ? N8DEU > > > > > > > >From: GEO Badger >Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:00 PM >To: Tim N8DEU >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > > > >Can you look at the deviation? > > > >--- >Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side > > >73 de W3AB/GEO > >http://www.w3ab.org > >You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and >out". > > > > > >On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU > wrote: > > > > > >Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. > > > >Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one >with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the >same results. > > > > > >- Tim > >From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via >AMSAT-BB >Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > > > >Tim, > >Have you tried simplex contacts? > >?___ >Sent from my two way wrist watch >73 de W3AB/GEO? > >On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB > wrote: >>Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >>accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? >> >>The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >>firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >>Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >>the transmit side is a different story. >> >>It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by >other >>stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >>TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a >Yaesu >>FT-736 and the FT-847. >> >> >>Thank You, >>Tim Cunningham - N8DEU >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>of AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8deu at outlook.com Sun Sep 6 22:00:34 2020 From: n8deu at outlook.com (Tim N8DEU) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 22:00:34 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: <0f73522b-d06f-43be-b765-2b91b2d1b3f3@yahoo.com> References: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2081713883.787830.1599416904133@mail.yahoo.com> , <0f73522b-d06f-43be-b765-2b91b2d1b3f3@yahoo.com> Message-ID: What audio EQ? 9612 or IC-9700? If you are talking about the Treble and Bass settings on the IC-9700, they had no significant impact in decoding the transmitted signal. Best Regards, Tim Cunningham - N8DEU From: W3AB/GEO Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:23 PM To: Tim N8DEU Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Very good Tim. Thanks for diving in so deeply. BTW, have you tried the TX audio EQ? ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO On Sep 6, 2020, at 13:48, Tim N8DEU > wrote: I stopped guessing and started measuring. The data holds the answer after a deeper dive into this issue. The audio is not distorted. The problem with the ICOM IC-9700 and both Kantronics 9612 and KAM XL setups is a very old problem. I knew something seemed familiar about the decode problem, but it was 33 years ago. After measuring the IC-9700 signals on a service monitor and viewing the signal on an oscilloscope hooked to a Kenwood TH-D7a headphone jack, the picture was very clear. I discovered the old twisted audio problem where the higher 2100 Hz tone is much lower in amplitude than the lower 1300 Hz tone. Why does this matter? The XR2211 demodulators had immense trouble decoding packets with this condition and so does the TH-D7a with a Tasco modem, but the Tasco modem decodes ~50% of something where the XR2211 does not decode anything. When (Amplow*cos(FreqLow)) is close to the same value as (Amphigh*cos(FreqHigh)) the performance is not good on an XR2211 decoder nor a Tasco modem chip. Early in the days of 1200 baud TAPR packet modem designs it was discovered the higher tone needed to be 20 dB higher. In other words, you at least need some pre-empahasis on the transmit signal for it to be decoded and obtain some noise reduction. There is no pre-emphasis on the transmit signal from the IC-9700 Accessory Port based on the results I measured. The low tone is about 1.47 times higher than the high tone relative to the deviation measured. When I measure the two tones levels with an oscilloscope tied to the TH-D7a headphone jack, I measure the low tone is 1.29 times higher than the high tone. Both of the audio tones output from the Kantronics 9612 are the same level at roughly 50mV. Thus, the 9700 clearly alters the signal levels on the two tones in a less than desirable fashion! I have not tried sending audio through the microphone connector yet, but I would hope it would at least have pre-emphasis for better results on boosting the high tone. Before I pass judgement, I will present the data to ICOM on the topic. Hopefully, the response I get will be better than what my friend received from them. They claimed to him the TNC keys the radio and it passes the audio as if they have no problem in the equation. In their defense, they did not understand the problem, but they did not pursue it either. Their response was correct from a simplistic view, but what their radio does or does not do with the audio can break everything. Pete, N4YOT, found if he sent 2 duplicate packets back to back with his KAM XL, the transmitted packet would be decoded. This raised the possibility the TXDelay might be the culprit initially from his results. However, that gets into the 50% packet decode rate. When I hooked up my Kantronics 9612 on my end to the IC-9700, I experienced the same problem as Pete and he worked on this for the past 2 months getting nowhere and little help from ICOM. I finally hooked up the 9612 to the IC-9700 to take a look for myself. It quickly became obvious there is a lack of pre-emphasis on the high tone when the data is transmitted. In fact, the emphasis is on the low tone or the high tone is being attenuated!!! The end result is poor decoding of that transmitted signal when the low tone is higher in amplitude than the high tone. There is indeed a problem with the ICOM IC-9700 using the Accessory Port with 1200 baud packet. This requires a hardware modification on the 9612 to implement a filter to reverse these effects unless ICOM can provide some insight on how it can be accomplished with their radio where the problem exists. Let's see what ICOM has to say with the detailed measurements I collected. Best Regards, Tim Cunningham - N8DEU From: GEO Badger Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:28 PM To: Tim N8DEU Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Tim, It seems a modulation issue of some type. I don't have a 9700 but I do have a 7600 and had a modulation distortion problem. When using the accessory port insure that "DATA OFF MOD" is set only to "ACC", not "MIC+ACC". All the others should be set to "USB". ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO On Sep 5, 2020, at 22:00, Tim N8DEU > wrote: I made several measurements with the deviation starting at 0.75 kHz up to 4.00 kHz in 0.25 kHz steps. At each step 10 packets were transmitted and multiple receivers were used for decoding. At no point did the success rate go above 50% decoding. At 3.25 kHz and 3.50 kHz the transmit decode rate was 50%. All other settings were less. The Kantronics 9616 cannot drive the IC-9700 any higher than 4.07 kHz deviation and that level is achieved at XMITLVL = 114. Increasing the XMITLVL does not produce any additional increase in FM deviation using the square wave tone from the CALIBRATE mode. I have worked with 1200 baud packet for 33 years and set up quite a number of systems and this one will require some more observation. The same Kantronics 9612 connected to a Yaesu FT-736 or and an FT-847 show a 100% packet decode rate at 1200 baud. Both of these radio?s work fine at 9600 baud which is something not mentioned anywhere for the IC-9700. I was checking to see if others are having issues with the IC-9700. This started with a friend asking questions for the past 2 months about having trouble with the IC-9700 connected to a KAM XL and I walked him through all the logical steps. Finally, I decided I better try hooking my 9612 up to the Accessory Port to see how it works. This should not be too complicated. My results were exactly the same poor results he encountered on transmitting 1200 baud packets. Increasing TX Delay does nothing to help as that does not seem to be the issue. 1200 baud packets are decoded through the receiver perfectly fine. The problem is transmitting 1200 baud packets for a successful decode rate on the IC-9700 through the Accessory Port. Best Regards, Tim Cunningham ? N8DEU From: GEO Badger Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:00 PM To: Tim N8DEU Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Can you look at the deviation? --- Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side 73 de W3AB/GEO http://www.w3ab.org You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out". On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU wrote: Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the same results. - Tim From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC Tim, Have you tried simplex contacts? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? > >The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >the transmit side is a different story. > >It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other >stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu >FT-736 and the FT-847. > > >Thank You, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wd9get at amsat.org Sun Sep 6 22:01:37 2020 From: wd9get at amsat.org (Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 17:01:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT D-Star talkgroups Message-ID: <6f1ec9c8-8cab-835e-5e67-4afda4094bb2@amsat.org> I'm having trouble with the AMSAT D-Star reflectors. I can hear traffic with no difficulty, but I am not heard when I transmit. Other reflectors work fine (30C, 1C, 4B, etc). I've tried the various alternative reflectors that are hooked together (DCS, XLX, XRF systems using reflectors 28C, SAT, and SIN). When I transmit, the Pi-Star shows me getting into the hotspot and it shows the reflector connected. The gateway pages for the reflectors sometimes show me connected, sometimes they don't. My hotspot is a RPi 3 running Pi-Star 4.1.2 with a DVMega board (firmware 3.26) -- both the newest versions I've tried accessing the hotspot with both my TH-D74A and Icom ID-51A I use the Pi-Star interface to change reflectors I can use the AMSAT reflectors from my Windows computer with an AMBE stick and BlueDV If anyone has any insights as to why my transmissions aren't getting to the system I'd appreciate advice. Keith WD9GET From w3ab at yahoo.com Sun Sep 6 23:40:42 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 16:40:42 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: References: <2081713883.787830.1599416904133.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2081713883.787830.1599416904133@mail.yahoo.com> , <0f73522b-d06f-43be-b765-2b91b2d1b3f3@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't know if the 9700 has TX EQ. The 7600 does. Hmm, you just triggered something about TNC's I'll research. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 6, 2020, 15:00, at 15:00, Tim N8DEU wrote: >What audio EQ? > >9612 or IC-9700? > >If you are talking about the Treble and Bass settings on the IC-9700, >they had no significant impact in decoding the transmitted signal. > > >Best Regards, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > > > > > >From: W3AB/GEO >Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:23 PM >To: Tim N8DEU >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > >Very good Tim. Thanks for diving in so deeply. >BTW, have you tried the TX audio EQ? >___ >Sent from my two way wrist watch >73 de W3AB/GEO >On Sep 6, 2020, at 13:48, Tim N8DEU >> wrote: > > >I stopped guessing and started measuring. The data holds the answer >after a deeper dive into this issue. > > >The audio is not distorted. > > >The problem with the ICOM IC-9700 and both Kantronics 9612 and KAM XL >setups is a very old problem. I knew something seemed familiar about >the decode problem, but it was 33 years ago. After measuring the >IC-9700 signals on a service monitor and viewing the signal on an >oscilloscope hooked to a Kenwood TH-D7a headphone jack, the picture was >very clear. I discovered the old twisted audio problem where the higher >2100 Hz tone is much lower in amplitude than the lower 1300 Hz tone. >Why does this matter? The XR2211 demodulators had immense trouble >decoding packets with this condition and so does the TH-D7a with a >Tasco modem, but the Tasco modem decodes ~50% of something where the >XR2211 does not decode anything. > > >When (Amplow*cos(FreqLow)) is close to the same value as >(Amphigh*cos(FreqHigh)) the performance is not good on an XR2211 >decoder nor a Tasco modem chip. Early in the days of 1200 baud TAPR >packet modem designs it was discovered the higher tone needed to be 20 >dB higher. In other words, you at least need some pre-empahasis on the >transmit signal for it to be decoded and obtain some noise reduction. >There is no pre-emphasis on the transmit signal from the IC-9700 >Accessory Port based on the results I measured. The low tone is about >1.47 times higher than the high tone relative to the deviation >measured. When I measure the two tones levels with an oscilloscope tied >to the TH-D7a headphone jack, I measure the low tone is 1.29 times >higher than the high tone. > > >Both of the audio tones output from the Kantronics 9612 are the same >level at roughly 50mV. Thus, the 9700 clearly alters the signal levels >on the two tones in a less than desirable fashion! > > >I have not tried sending audio through the microphone connector yet, >but I would hope it would at least have pre-emphasis for better results >on boosting the high tone. > > >Before I pass judgement, I will present the data to ICOM on the topic. >Hopefully, the response I get will be better than what my friend >received from them. They claimed to him the TNC keys the radio and it >passes the audio as if they have no problem in the equation. In their >defense, they did not understand the problem, but they did not pursue >it either. Their response was correct from a simplistic view, but what >their radio does or does not do with the audio can break everything. >Pete, N4YOT, found if he sent 2 duplicate packets back to back with his >KAM XL, the transmitted packet would be decoded. This raised the >possibility the TXDelay might be the culprit initially from his >results. However, that gets into the 50% packet decode rate. > > >When I hooked up my Kantronics 9612 on my end to the IC-9700, I >experienced the same problem as Pete and he worked on this for the past >2 months getting nowhere and little help from ICOM. I finally hooked up >the 9612 to the IC-9700 to take a look for myself. It quickly became >obvious there is a lack of pre-emphasis on the high tone when the data >is transmitted. In fact, the emphasis is on the low tone or the high >tone is being attenuated!!! The end result is poor decoding of that >transmitted signal when the low tone is higher in amplitude than the >high tone. There is indeed a problem with the ICOM IC-9700 using the >Accessory Port with 1200 baud packet. > > >This requires a hardware modification on the 9612 to implement a filter >to reverse these effects unless ICOM can provide some insight on how it >can be accomplished with their radio where the problem exists. > > >Let's see what ICOM has to say with the detailed measurements I >collected. > > > > >Best Regards, >Tim Cunningham - N8DEU > > > > >From: GEO Badger >Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:28 PM >To: Tim N8DEU >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > > >Tim, > >It seems a modulation issue of some type. > >I don't have a 9700 but I do have a 7600 and had a modulation >distortion problem. When using the accessory port insure that "DATA OFF >MOD" is set only to "ACC", not "MIC+ACC". All the others should be set >to "USB". > >___ >Sent from my two way wrist watch >73 de W3AB/GEO >On Sep 5, 2020, at 22:00, Tim N8DEU >> wrote: > >I made several measurements with the deviation starting at 0.75 kHz up >to 4.00 kHz in 0.25 kHz steps. At each step 10 packets were transmitted >and multiple receivers were used for decoding. At no point did the >success rate go above 50% decoding. At 3.25 kHz and 3.50 kHz the >transmit decode rate was 50%. All other settings were less. > > > >The Kantronics 9616 cannot drive the IC-9700 any higher than 4.07 kHz >deviation and that level is achieved at XMITLVL = 114. Increasing the >XMITLVL does not produce any additional increase in FM deviation using >the square wave tone from the CALIBRATE mode. > > > >I have worked with 1200 baud packet for 33 years and set up quite a >number of systems and this one will require some more observation. The >same Kantronics 9612 connected to a Yaesu FT-736 or and an FT-847 show >a 100% packet decode rate at 1200 baud. Both of these radio?s work fine >at 9600 baud which is something not mentioned anywhere for the IC-9700. > > > >I was checking to see if others are having issues with the IC-9700. >This started with a friend asking questions for the past 2 months about >having trouble with the IC-9700 connected to a KAM XL and I walked him >through all the logical steps. Finally, I decided I better try hooking >my 9612 up to the Accessory Port to see how it works. This should not >be too complicated. My results were exactly the same poor results he >encountered on transmitting 1200 baud packets. > > > >Increasing TX Delay does nothing to help as that does not seem to be >the issue. > > > >1200 baud packets are decoded through the receiver perfectly fine. > > > >The problem is transmitting 1200 baud packets for a successful decode >rate on the IC-9700 through the Accessory Port. > > > > > > > >Best Regards, > >Tim Cunningham ? N8DEU > > > > > > > >From: GEO Badger >Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:00 PM >To: Tim N8DEU >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > > > >Can you look at the deviation? > > > >--- >Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side > > >73 de W3AB/GEO > >http://www.w3ab.org > >You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and >out". > > > > > >On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU > wrote: > > > > > >Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple. > > > >Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one >with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the >same results. > > > > > >- Tim > >From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via >AMSAT-BB >Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC > > > >Tim, > >Have you tried simplex contacts? > >?___ >Sent from my two way wrist watch >73 de W3AB/GEO? > >On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB > wrote: >>Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the >>accessory port of the Icom IC-9700? >> >>The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same >>firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s. >>Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but >>the transmit side is a different story. >> >>It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by >other >>stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the >>TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a >Yaesu >>FT-736 and the FT-847. >> >> >>Thank You, >>Tim Cunningham - N8DEU >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>of AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Mon Sep 7 00:06:52 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Yono Adisoemarta) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:06:52 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What is the setup to decode ? I?ll try to replicate the problem as I have a 9612 somewhere in the storage. 73 de Yono - YD0NXX Sent from my iPhone From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Sep 7 15:42:39 2020 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 10:42:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] New AMSAT net for Dallas/ Ft. Worth, Texas References: <022401d6852d$84b4eb00$8e1ec100$.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <022401d6852d$84b4eb00$8e1ec100$@verizon.net> The DFW Metroplex has had a local AMSAT net for at least 35 years on the Arlington ARC repeater each Wednesday evening. It continues to be a great home for the net. I am a regular net control and have taken over the organization of the net following the passing of our late friend, Keith Pugh, W5IU. The metro area has grown so much to the North and East however, that most likely, folks up in that area have no way to get into the Arlington machine which is in the southwest quadrant, which in some cases is over 60 miles away. I tried to engage a linked repeater group in the area but they were not willing to host a "Non-Affiliated net" on their system. The Arlington machine has no Internet connectivity for modes like Wires-X or other of the digital voice modes. Thus I proposed to the Dallas Amateur Radio Club, of which I am a member, to let me host an AMSAT net-EAST. Dates will be every Tuesday at 8PM CT except the first Tuesday of the month. DARC does have an Echolink node on W5FC-R so it will allow for folks who can't hit it by RF, a chance still to get in with a local group of satellite enthusiasts. Oh yes, we will continue to host the West net on the Arlington machine as will. Yup, this is the same time as the Houston AMSAT net, which has an Echolink presence at the same time, but no intentional competition is intended. That is the slot DARC could give me. Our first DFW AMSAT East net is tomorrow, September 8th. I am posting this here, because I am hoping to do something unique with this net. I want to have a 20 minute "Expert" section where satellite chasers, designers, rovers, data downloaders, antenna builders and more, can share their passion for certain aspects of the hobby. Having an Echolink connection to the repeater means it will be easy to draw from the larger AMSAT community, both here and abroad. If you would be interested in being a part of this one week, please do drop me a note off list and we can discuss and set up a week for you to present. Hope yo can be a part of this new outreach venture. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From jeff30339 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 00:58:39 2020 From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff Johns) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 19:58:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! Message-ID: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@gmail.com> ?Candidates whom are running for a position on the AMSAT BoDs are allowed to use AMSAT?s publications/media in order to campaign per AMSAT bylaws. As such, this email is an allowed campaign email. If you are eligible to vote in this year?s election and have not yet done so, please consider casting your vote for me, Howie AB2S and Bob N4HY. This election cycle has been quite heated, as it should be. Myself and those I endorse want to change how AMSAT is operated. We want to see the organization follow its bylaws and the Code of Washington D.C. and to remove the dark cloud which is currently hanging over the organization. This dark cloud has been brought about by the organization being treated as a clubhouse and not a non-profit business. During this election cycle, AMSAT members have learned that their elected officials have squandered membership monies in a complete violation of bylaws and Washington DC corporate code. This HAS to stop. AMSAT members have learned that the BoDs refuse (the majority of them including those running for re-election) to have regular meetings. How can any organization survive in this manner? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but he was too busy to do so. Folks, that is the attitude of the majority of the BoDs, they simply don?t seem to care. What kind of leadership is that? Those incumbents running against me are promising you an HEO satellite but they can?t even tell us why AO-95 never worked, AO-92 is basically dead and HO-107 only lasted a few days. Members deserve leadership and answers, not false promises. This will be my last campaign email of the season. I?m just asking people to take a objective and not subjective look at AMSAT as it stands today. If emotions are removed, it?s easy to see that AMSAT is failing financially, ethically and failing in being a world-class leader of keeping amateur radio in space. If you are a member and haven?t voted, please do so tomorrow so that your ballot will reach the Secretary in time to be counted. AMSAT is worth saving but if changes don?t happen soon. There won?t be anything left to save. AMSAT needs real leadership not just uninterested OM that enjoy having a title. Let?s keep the organization going for decades to come. This can happen with a vote for me, Howie and Bob. Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing you on the air. 73! Jeff WE4B http://we4bravo.com From curt.laumann at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 01:49:31 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 18:49:31 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for a couple Fox telemetry files? (to practice decoding) Message-ID: Hello, I downloaded and installed the Fox 1 Telemetry tool. A group of us are going to discuss using this tool during our weekly net tonight, and It thought it would be helpful to have a couple of audio files to practice decoding. If you have one or two telemetry audio files that you could send to k7zoo at arrl.net it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Curt / K7ZOO From mccardelm at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 06:57:34 2020 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 02:57:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! In-Reply-To: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@gmail.com> References: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but he was too busy to do so. ? This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said no such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement he offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92. You can look it up and read it for Yourself. People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions of the truth. EMike McCardel, AA8EM Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator > On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but he was too busy to do so. From ciemon at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 09:10:07 2020 From: ciemon at gmail.com (Ciemon Dunville) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:10:07 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! In-Reply-To: References: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Interpretation of the statement aside what I find interesting is that this sort of news and subsequent discussion is not happening on this list. Surely the whole point of having a central point of focus is that all information should be here. Do I need to subscribe to QRZ.com now to find out what's going on in the world of AMSAT? Why aren't the various BoD people giving regular updates here for us all to see? 73 Ciemon - G0TRT On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 08:01, E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering > stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that > if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data > but he was too busy to do so. ? > > This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said no > such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement he > offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say > that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far > cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92. > You can look it up and read it for Yourself. > > People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions > of the truth. > > > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service > Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations > Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator > > > > On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on > QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if > anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but > he was too busy to do so. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 11:01:15 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 07:01:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! In-Reply-To: References: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would like to see regular updates again, in an environment that is free of legal intimidation and rich of engineering activity, like it use to be... That's why I voted for: Hammond, Paige, Stoetzer. AMSAT should be voting for people who speak well about AMSAT, work for AMSAT and want it to continue to evolve and grow. I have seen some board members speak up now and then, but it seems limited now and focused on answering specific engineering questions. I'm not on the board of AMSAT, or involved with the board in any way, but from all observations i've been able to make from the -bb traffic, it seems like many on the BOD are being forced to walk on eggshells with their words and are being stifled due to legal threats. Reference the -bb email "[Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020", and all it's majesty. With an email like this being sent publically to the -bb, who knows what else has gone on behind the scenes or in board meetings. Not sure if the email was sent just-for-show or not (you know how some people can be these days...), but that's the work of Patrick and Michelle (ref the email), whom appear to be part of the root cause of the deafening silence we are experiencing from the board. If you want to do AMSAT a service, sift through the -bb and vote-away the friends-and-family of ORI. Otherwise, it feels like it will be the last year, ad-infinitum, minus any engineering activity. Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:14 AM Ciemon Dunville via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Interpretation of the statement aside what I find interesting is that this > sort of news and subsequent discussion is not happening on this list. > Surely the whole point of having a central point of focus is that all > information should be here. Do I need to subscribe to QRZ.com now to find > out what's going on in the world of AMSAT? > > Why aren't the various BoD people giving regular updates here for us all to > see? > > 73 > Ciemon - G0TRT > > > > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 08:01, E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering > > stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that > > if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data > > but he was too busy to do so. ? > > > > This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said > no > > such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement > he > > offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say > > that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far > > cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92. > > You can look it up and read it for Yourself. > > > > People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions > > of the truth. > > > > > > > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > > Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service > > Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations > > Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on > > QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that > if > > anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data > but > > he was too busy to do so. > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-08 12:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-02 20:00 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1397. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1330. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From mccardelm at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 12:38:12 2020 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 08:38:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are a volunteer organization. Perhaps, instead of criticizing, for the purpose of your personal gain, you could grab a handful of data and start analyzing. What you aren?t seeing is the lack of people doing the hard behind the scenes work to get everything done. Think of AMSAT as an ice cream cone. The ice cream is the fun part playing with satellite in space, making contacts and friends etc. Typically the ice cream over-expands the cone. The cone holds it up and if you squeeze too hard it crumbles and you lose all the fun. It takes a lot of people?s time, talent and treasure to design, test, fund, launch, activate and maintain a satellite. We should always be focusing on the next satellite. And, yes, we should be trying to figure out what happened to the ones that break. But it should never, is never, incumbent on one person to do so. Just remember going forward we need us all, old guard, new guard, engineers, free thinkers, tinkers, PR people, educators, data mongers, accountants, operators, experimenters, writers, editors, philanthropists, and wackos. In the process of all of this I challenge you and everyone to, at the very least, to be honest and fair in your criticism. When we come out the other side we will indeed need each others help. EMike McCardel, AA8EM Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator > On Sep 8, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Jeff Johns wrote: > > ? > Why be focusing on GOLF when he can?t answer why all the other satellites are failing? > > If we don?t learn from shortcomings, how do we move forward? > > Jeff WE4B > >>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 1:57 AM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >>> >> ?Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but he was too busy to do so. ? >> >> This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said no such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement he offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92. >> You can look it up and read it for Yourself. >> >> People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions of the truth. >> >> >> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >> Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service >> Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations >> Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator >> >> >>>> On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: >>>> >>> A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but he was too busy to do so. From royldean at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 12:47:05 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 08:47:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for a couple Fox telemetry files? (to practice decoding) Message-ID: > > Hello, I downloaded and installed the Fox 1 Telemetry tool. A group of us > are > going to discuss using this tool during our weekly net tonight, and It > thought it would be helpful to have a couple of audio files to practice > decoding. If you have one or two telemetry audio files that you could send > to > k7zoo at arrl.net it > would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Curt / K7ZOO Curt, I actually plan on listening in this evening, and have an audio file from a pass yesterday, however it is over 100 mb. Do you have a way of accepting this via something other than email? --Roy K3RLD From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc Tue Sep 8 13:40:41 2020 From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 09:40:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It seems perfectly clear that the root problem with AO-92 is that the batteries are no longer holding a charge as well as they did when new. I am not a battery expert, and unfortunately, we had no battery expert volunteers when the Foxes were being built (although we do now). Fox was designed for AMSAT engineering and ops to learn about cubesats. This is one of the things we learned. All the Foxes are complete--there is nothing we can do about that except work for better results on Golf. Another issue is that AO-92 sometimes stays in safe mode after the voltage rises again as it exits eclipse and requires a command station to start the repeater again. That is not the design. I'll take responsibility for that behavior since I wrote that software. And believe me I *am* analysing it to ensure future birds that I work on don't have that bug (which is subtle to the extent that I have not yet found it, or even been able to reproduce it on the ground). I'd add that these problems are most likely based on volunteer engineers with limited time butting up against fixed launch schedules set by large for-profit corporations with big payrolls. It's hard for me to imagine blaming the board of a volunteer, non-profit corporation for this situation. 73, Burns Fisher, WB1FJ AMSAT Flight Software Volunteer From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com Tue Sep 8 14:16:11 2020 From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 14:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Virtual Conference (DCC), September 11 - 12 (THIS WEEK) In-Reply-To: <784659664.3413361.1599574484384@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1820463719.4232682.1599545023214.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1820463719.4232682.1599545023214@mail.yahoo.com> <1043932228.3314661.1599549493348@mail.yahoo.com> <93128696.3320434.1599550872990@mail.yahoo.com> <1374508861.3317468.1599551171884@mail.yahoo.com> <1464292055.3317643.1599551378925@mail.yahoo.com> <784659664.3413361.1599574484384@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <550727668.3416733.1599574571287@mail.yahoo.com> 39th Annual ARRL / TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC)? THIS WEEK - Friday, September 11th & Saturday, 12th ? DCC will be a virtual conference using Zoom video communications and YouTube video-sharing platforms. DCC information, Technical Papers, Presentation Schedule & Registration Available at:? DCC Information DCC Technical Papers DCC Presentation Schedule DCC Registration Registered DCC attendees participating via Zoom will be able to interact with presenters and other attendees via a chat room as well as raise a virtual hand to ask questions.?(you don?t need a Zoom account to register). Non-registered DCC attendees can watch the live stream for free on YouTube, however non-registered DCC attendees will not be able to ask questions or chat. No registration is required for YouTube access. The YouTube URL will be announced and posted on this webpage preceding the DCC. DCC registration is free for TAPR members and $30 for non-members. Members receive a 100% discount at checkout.? Non-members who would like to join TAPR and receive the free DCC pass can simply add TAPR membership and DCC registration to their shopping carts. After checkout, they will receive the free DCC pass when their membership is processed. From g0kla at arrl.net Tue Sep 8 15:06:34 2020 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 11:06:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for a couple Fox telemetry files? (to practice decoding) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Curt, SatNogs have lots of recordings of Fox spacecraft. So you could try there, in addition to any you get from others. They record them in ogg format but you can convert them to wav files with a program like audacity. I would ask that you try to avoid uploading the data to the server if you are playing back other peoples recordings. We log the lat/lon of stations that submit data and it is nice to keep that clean if possible, for any subsequent analysis. If you don't get any other responses then email me directly and I will find you one. I'm working right now so it would need to be from my home computer. 73 Chris On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 9:51 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hello, > > I downloaded and installed the Fox 1 Telemetry tool. A group of us are > going to discuss using this tool during our weekly net tonight, and It > thought it would be helpful to have a couple of audio files to practice > decoding. > > If you have one or two telemetry audio files that you could send to > k7zoo at arrl.net it would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Curt / K7ZOO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 15:39:46 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 11:39:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for a couple Fox telemetry files? (to practice decoding) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The manual references sample wav files: http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/recordings/ 3.3 Testing with a wav file http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/foxtelem_manual.pdf Isn't this what was asked for? 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:12 AM Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Curt, > > SatNogs have lots of recordings of Fox spacecraft. So you could try there, > in addition to any you get from others. They record them in ogg format but > you can convert them to wav files with a program like audacity. > > I would ask that you try to avoid uploading the data to the server if you > are playing back other peoples recordings. We log the lat/lon of stations > that submit data and it is nice to keep that clean if possible, for any > subsequent analysis. > > If you don't get any other responses then email me directly and I will find > you one. I'm working right now so it would need to be from my home > computer. > > 73 > Chris > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 9:51 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I downloaded and installed the Fox 1 Telemetry tool. A group of us are > > going to discuss using this tool during our weekly net tonight, and It > > thought it would be helpful to have a couple of audio files to practice > > decoding. > > > > If you have one or two telemetry audio files that you could send to > > k7zoo at arrl.net it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Curt / K7ZOO > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > -- > Chris E. Thompson > chrisethompson at gmail.com > g0kla at arrl.net > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com Tue Sep 8 16:08:20 2020 From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Virtual Conference (DCC), September 11 - 12 (THIS WEEK) In-Reply-To: <550727668.3416733.1599574571287@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1820463719.4232682.1599545023214.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1820463719.4232682.1599545023214@mail.yahoo.com> <1043932228.3314661.1599549493348@mail.yahoo.com> <93128696.3320434.1599550872990@mail.yahoo.com> <1374508861.3317468.1599551171884@mail.yahoo.com> <1464292055.3317643.1599551378925@mail.yahoo.com> <784659664.3413361.1599574484384@mail.yahoo.com> <550727668.3416733.1599574571287@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2123926583.3469165.1599581300189@mail.yahoo.com> Since the AMSAT email list apparently removed the hyperlinks from the previous post the explicit URLs is now included below.? DCC information, Technical Papers, Presentation Schedule & Registration Available at:? DCC Information http://www.tapr.org/dcc DCC Technical Papers https://tapr.org/papers-of-the-2020-arrl-tapr-digital-communications-conference-dcc/ DCC Presentation Schedulehttps://tapr.org/2020-dcc-schedule/ DCC Registration https://tapr.wpengine.com/?product=dcc-registration On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 09:16:11 AM CDT, Mark Thompson wrote: 39th Annual ARRL / TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC)? THIS WEEK - Friday, September 11th & Saturday, 12th ? DCC will be a virtual conference using Zoom video communications and YouTube video-sharing platforms. DCC information, Technical Papers, Presentation Schedule & Registration Available at:? DCC Information DCC Technical Papers DCC Presentation Schedule DCC Registration Registered DCC attendees participating via Zoom will be able to interact with presenters and other attendees via a chat room as well as raise a virtual hand to ask questions.?(you don?t need a Zoom account to register). Non-registered DCC attendees can watch the live stream for free on YouTube, however non-registered DCC attendees will not be able to ask questions or chat. No registration is required for YouTube access. The YouTube URL will be announced and posted on this webpage preceding the DCC. DCC registration is free for TAPR members and $30 for non-members. Members receive a 100% discount at checkout.? Non-members who would like to join TAPR and receive the free DCC pass can simply add TAPR membership and DCC registration to their shopping carts. After checkout, they will receive the free DCC pass when their membership is processed. From ea4gqs at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:05:19 2020 From: ea4gqs at gmail.com (Felix Paez EA4GQS) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 19:05:19 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with recordings of UPMSAT-2 Message-ID: Dear friends, UPMSAT-2 team would appreciate a lot if some of you could send some recordings of their satellite. They are very interested in recordings made outside Spain. Please be aware that UPMSAT-2 should be received in 437.405 MHz using USB, not FM. Any transmissions can be send to contacto at amsat-ea.org Thanks a lot, Felix EA4GQS From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Sep 8 18:53:42 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 18:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release No. 20-15 References: <2132493334.3547843.1599591222014.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2132493334.3547843.1599591222014@mail.yahoo.com> ? ? ARISS News Release??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? No.?? 20-15???? Dave Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org ? ? ? FORIMMEDIATE RELEASE ? ? ARISS Contact Scheduled for Students at College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France ? ? September 8, 2020?AmateurRadio on the International Space Station (ARISS) has received scheduleconfirmation for an ARISS radio contact with astronauts. ARISS is the groupthat puts together special amateur radio contacts between students around theglobe and crew members with ham radio licenses on the International Space Station (ISS). ? This will be a telebridge contact via amateur radio and students will take turnsasking their questions of ISS Commander Chris Cassidy, amateur radio call sign KF5KDR. ARISS telebridge operator Tony Hutchison, call sign VK5ZAI, will relaythe ARISS contact via his ham radio ground station in Pinks Beach, Australia. ? The ARISS radio contact is scheduled forSeptember 10, 2020 at 10:17 pm CEST (Gueux) (08:17 UTC,?4:17 amEDT,?3:17 am CDT, 2:17 am MDT and 1:17 am PDT). ? The schoolselected for the telebridge ARISS school contact is College Raymond Sirot orRaymond Sirot Middle School (with about 600 students ages 11 to 15) in thesmall town of Gueux. It is a rural school located in the northeastern area ofFrance, about 100 miles northeast of Paris. The school teachesstudents a wide range of subjects including technology, physics, biology,chemistry, mathematics, and the arts. ? ???? _____________________________ ? Astime allows, students will ask these questions: ? 1. Why did you choosethis job? 2. How long did ittake to get ready for this mission? 3. What were yourfeelings when you left the Earth? 4. What was the firstthing you did when you got on board the ISS? 5. What are the mainobjectives of your mission? 6. What are the goalsof the experiments made in the ISS? 7. How are yousupplied during your mission? 8. How do you getenough water? Do you recycle it? 9. What do you do ifan astronaut gets sick on the ISS? 10. How does it feelto witness 16 sunsets and sunrises in one day and therefore, how do you makethe difference between night and day? 11. What is the mostdifficult task of daily life to achieve in weightlessness? 12. Is it difficultto wash yourself? To go to the toilet? 13. What do you dowhen you have some free time? 14. What is the mostdifficult thing you have to deal with in the ISS? Being far from your family?Fearing a technical problem? Living close to each other? 15. Do you think thathumankind will be able to colonize other planets one day? 16. Since your veryfirst mission, have you noticed any changes on the Earth? 17. What is your bestmemory in space? 18. What is yourworst memory in space? 19. Have you everbeen afraid for your life during a space mission? 20. Have you everobserved strange phenomena from the ISS? ? ARISS ? Celebrating 20 Years of Amateur Radio Continuous Operations onthe ISS ? About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the InternationalSpace Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radiosocieties and the space agencies that support the International Space Station(ISS).? In the United States, sponsorsare the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio RelayLeague (ARRL), the ISS National Lab-Space Station Explorers, and NASA?s SpaceCommunications and Navigation program. The primary goal of ARISS is to promoteexploration of science, technology, engineering, the arts, and mathematicstopics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew membersaboard the ISS and students. Before and during these radio contacts, students,educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, andamateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org . ? MediaContact: DaveJordan, AA4KN ARISSPR ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Likeus on Facebook. Follow us on Twitter. Search on Amateur Radio on the ISS and at ARISS_status. From tnetcenter at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 23:15:26 2020 From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:15:26 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! In-Reply-To: References: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@gmail.com> Message-ID: There can't be anything going on in "board meetings" when they aren't having any! Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 4:01 AM Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I would like to see regular updates again, in an environment that is free > of legal intimidation and rich of engineering activity, like it use to > be... That's why I voted for: Hammond, Paige, Stoetzer. > > AMSAT should be voting for people who speak well about AMSAT, work for > AMSAT and want it to continue to evolve and grow. I have seen some board > members speak up now and then, but it seems limited now and focused on > answering specific engineering questions. > > I'm not on the board of AMSAT, or involved with the board in any way, but > from all observations i've been able to make from the -bb traffic, it seems > like many on the BOD are being forced to walk on eggshells with their words > and are being stifled due to legal threats. Reference the -bb email > "[Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020", and all it's majesty. With an > email like this being sent publically to the -bb, who knows what else has > gone on behind the scenes or in board meetings. Not sure if the email was > sent just-for-show or not (you know how some people can be these days...), > but that's the work of Patrick and Michelle (ref the email), whom appear to > be part of the root cause of the deafening silence we are experiencing from > the board. If you want to do AMSAT a service, sift through the -bb and > vote-away the friends-and-family of ORI. Otherwise, it feels like it will > be the last year, ad-infinitum, minus any engineering activity. > > Joseph Armbruster > KJ4JIO > > > From kc0bmf at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 02:13:06 2020 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (W0JW John) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 21:13:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ICOM CR-293 HIGH STABILITY CRYSTAL UNIT Message-ID: Hello to the group I am wondering if anyone has a ICOM CR-293 HIGH STABILITY CRYSTAL UNIT in excess of their needs ? If so please drop me a line at W0JW at ARRLNET Thanks John W0JW From revjwo at att.net Wed Sep 9 13:37:12 2020 From: revjwo at att.net (BeetleJerald Oliver) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging Sat Qso's References: <2050794742.205378.1599658632562.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2050794742.205378.1599658632562@mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone use HRD Logbook for logging sat contacts?? There does not seem to be a seamless way to upload to loTW from that logging program.I personally use AC Log and modify the program for sat contacts by setting up the required fields per LoTW specifications.? It works great and have had no problems at all with it.? HRD Logbook does not seem to have a way to modify the required fields for LoTW upload that will satisfy LoTW requirements.? I have a friend using HRD for this and he cannot upload his contacts, except by manually uploading them from the LoTW "create adif file" in TQSL.? Any info would be helpful. Jerry? ?KJ4EU From kontakt at sp3qfe.net Wed Sep 9 13:56:58 2020 From: kontakt at sp3qfe.net (Armand SP3QFE) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:56:58 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Is it FM or NarrowFM? Thank you. 73, Armand SP3QFE From kg4zlb at icloud.com Wed Sep 9 14:23:23 2020 From: kg4zlb at icloud.com (David Worboys) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:23:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1EB2DE1C-7693-4F01-A610-9838F857A38C@icloud.com> I use FM. I have not seen any notices advising anything else. 73 David KG4ZLB On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Armand SP3QFE via AMSAT-BB wrote: Hello Everyone, Is it FM or NarrowFM? Thank you. 73, Armand SP3QFE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ariss.w8aas at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 14:38:58 2020 From: ariss.w8aas at gmail.com (Dave Taylor) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:38:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ECEF12A-BD49-41A3-B926-10E9EBA60DF9@gmail.com> It is FM, Armand. Dave, W8AAS > On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Armand SP3QFE via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Is it FM or NarrowFM? > > Thank you. > > 73, Armand SP3QFE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ka7fvv at yahoo.com Wed Sep 9 15:18:35 2020 From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott Harvey) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <3ECEF12A-BD49-41A3-B926-10E9EBA60DF9@gmail.com> References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> <3ECEF12A-BD49-41A3-B926-10E9EBA60DF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2002141595.262187.1599664715167@mail.yahoo.com> Yes it is FM Armand. 73, Scott, KA7FVV Director - KBARA? kbara.orgCo-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeaterka7fvv.net On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 07:39:41 AM PDT, Dave Taylor via AMSAT-BB wrote: It is FM, Armand. Dave, W8AAS > On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Armand SP3QFE via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Is it FM or NarrowFM? > > Thank you. > > 73, Armand SP3QFE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Wed Sep 9 21:15:33 2020 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 14:15:33 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rt 66 OTA 2020 - W6D Message-ID: Hello All, COVID19 will not stop Route 66 on the Air! For this year it starts Sept 12 goes thru the 20th. If you will be hunting for the W6 stations for this event, I will be representing W6D on the Sats, FM, and SSB birds. only paper QSL cards will be issued for W6D contacts. (no LoTW) for the mailing address go to QRZ.com for W6D. This page also has link for more info on the event. I will be operating from my home QTH, in DM14. (not far from Rt 66) good hunting! 73 Christy KB6LTY From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Wed Sep 9 22:13:34 2020 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 18:13:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RS-44 Thursday Message-ID: I plan to be on RS-44 tomorrow 9/10/2020 around 1425Z to hopefully work John, AA2HJ from FN34im here in Vermont. Anyone needing VT, this looks like a good CONUS pass. -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From aj9n at aol.com Wed Sep 9 22:51:24 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 22:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-09 22:30 UTC References: <920976811.459854.1599691884099.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <920976811.459854.1599691884099@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-09 22:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg ? Watch for live stream at:? https://videodiff.phm.education.gouv.fr/live/liaison-iss-bis (***) ? Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Fri 2020-09-18 12:56:34 UTC 65 deg ? ? ? ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: Centrum vo?n?ho ?asu Kosice (Center of spare-time activities in Ko?ice), Kosice, Slovakia (***) ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-09 22:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-02 20:00 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1397. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1330. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From ariss.w8aas at gmail.com Thu Sep 10 01:13:14 2020 From: ariss.w8aas at gmail.com (Dave Taylor) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 21:13:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B27255-7F57-4035-A161-68AF769871DB@gmail.com> G?day Mark, The 9k6 packet is being generated by the Kenwood. It?s the standard Mic-E format APRS beacon that the radio generates. It carries info that is displayed on a receiving Kenwood radio, such as location, course, and speed. The radio is not receiving GPS data, so most of that ?data? has no meaning for ISS. The only things of interest for ARISS are the current program mode (indicated by the status message) and the temperature of the radio final amp. You can see the temperature as the final 2 characters of the dest address, 0P0PS4 in the packet you quoted. It?s a bit odd, because of the Mic-E encoding. In Mic-E, P-Y decodes as 0-9, so S4 represents 34 degrees C. Dave, W8AAS > On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:28 AM, Mark Jessop via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > After noticing that a SatNOGS station (through a fluke of configuration) > had decoded a packet [1] on the new repeater downlink frequency, I > investigated a bit more and found that all the passes observed recently had > 9k6 FSK packet traffic on the downlink. > > An example packet: > [0.4] NA1SS>0P0PS4,APRSAT:'v&<0x1c>l <0x1c>SI]ARISS-ISS PM2=<0x0d> > ------ > U frame UI: p/f=0, No layer 3 protocol implemented., length = 48 > dest 0P0PS4 0 c/r=0 res=3 last=0 > source NA1SS 0 c/r=1 res=3 last=0 > digi 1 APRSAT 0 h=0 res=3 last=1 > 000: 60 a0 60 a0 a6 68 60 9c 82 62 a6 a6 40 e0 82 a0 `.`..h`..b.. at ... > 010: a4 a6 82 a8 61 03 f0 27 76 26 1c 6c 20 1c 53 49 ....a..'v&.l .SI > 020: 5d 41 52 49 53 53 2d 49 53 53 20 50 4d 32 3d 0d ]ARISS-ISS PM2=. > ------ > Is this being generated within the new Kenwood radio, or somewhere else? > What does the packet contain? (It looks like there might be some telemetry > in there?) > > 73 > Mark VK5QI > > [1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2780486/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Wed Sep 9 22:07:41 2020 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 15:07:41 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging Sat Qso's In-Reply-To: <2050794742.205378.1599658632562@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2050794742.205378.1599658632562.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2050794742.205378.1599658632562@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008d01d686f5$a4484ec0$ecd8ec40$@charter.net> Hi Jerry, the HRD logbook will work fine for upload to LOTW. There are just a couple of steps needed.... First, make sure you have a field in your log for 'Satellite Name'....hit the 'Layout' button and add it where you want. Second, when you complete the qso, hit the 'add' button and HRD will bring in all the frequencies, etc. Third, in 'Logbook', click on that entry and you will see a new window. At the top, click the 'Show' tab and select tabs or click all the boxes.. Fourth, you should now see a line of tabs at the bottom of the modify window. 2 of these tabs are important to complete the correct log for LOTW. 1. the 'Ant/Sat' tab. Fill in the exact sat name, as it is known by amsat, norad, etc. (i.e AO-92...not ao92 or AO92) in the "mode' drop down, select FM or SSB or whatever you worked 2. Click the 'Propagation' tab...in the 'propagation mode' drop down, select 'Satellite' Fifth, click the 'Update' button and all should be good in your log. If you have a QRZ xml subscription, you can click the 'Update' tab and it will bring in more info from your contact NOTE: if the contact is roving or in a different grid than his callbook address, you will need to add the correct grid in the 'Modify' window Lastly, if you have set up the LOTW Upload tab in HRD, you can click an entry, click the 'LOTW Upload' tab and it will be sent to LOTW. Or you can export an HRD log to an adif file and upload that way to LOTW. FYI, lots of HRD bashers on this list, but the above steps work just fine... 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 6:37 AM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging Sat Qso's Does anyone use HRD Logbook for logging sat contacts? There does not seem to be a seamless way to upload to loTW from that logging program.I personally use AC Log and modify the program for sat contacts by setting up the required fields per LoTW specifications. It works great and have had no problems at all with it. HRD Logbook does not seem to have a way to modify the required fields for LoTW upload that will satisfy LoTW requirements. I have a friend using HRD for this and he cannot upload his contacts, except by manually uploading them from the LoTW "create adif file" in TQSL. Any info would be helpful. Jerry KJ4EU _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Thu Sep 10 14:07:01 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-10 14:00 UTC References: <519297219.666130.1599746821447.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <519297219.666130.1599746821447@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-10 14:00 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact was successful: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg (***) ? Watch for live stream at:? https://videodiff.phm.education.gouv.fr/live/liaison-iss-bis ? Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Fri 2020-09-18 12:56:34 UTC 65 deg ? ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? Here are a few websites that are space related that you might want to check out. (***) ? The Adler Planetarium in Chicago, IL, has on-line free presentations.? Check out: Adler Astronomy Live?takes place every other Thursday at 12:00 pm CT (17:00 UTC) and lasts around 45 minutes. The September 10 topic is The Aquarius Project. https://www.adlerplanetarium.org/event/adler-astronomy-live/.? I was the control operator and mentor for an ARISS contact that was held from Adler back on 2002-12-29.? If you ever get to Chicago, check out the museum. ? If you are looking for space memorabilia to buy, then check out The American Space Museum and Space Walk of Fame in Titusville, FL.? They are holding an on-line auction of space stuff.? If you ever come to watch a launch at KSC, be sure to check this museum out.? It looks small from the outside but it is anything but on the inside. They tell you they have Friends in Low Places as much of their displays come from the KSC workers.? http://spacewalkoffame.org/ ? ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? There is a new radio on board the ISS. ?The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools (***) ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-10 14:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-10 14:00 UTC. (***) https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1398. (***) Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1331. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From corlissbs at aol.com Thu Sep 10 14:48:40 2020 From: corlissbs at aol.com (Brad Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW with HRD is Easy References: <597636840.733146.1599749320034.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <597636840.733146.1599749320034@mail.yahoo.com> I have used HRD for years and love it. Here is how I log satellite and ISS on HRD. HRD FOR SATELLITE ? You have to have your location (QTH) set up. Click the Ant/Sat tab, type in the satellite name in the box. Click the Propagation tab, the Prop Mode must be ?Satellite? from the pull down menu. Freq. is the uplink Freq. and is not part of what LOTW looks at. If the Locator box defaults to FM19, click the QRZ tab to get his actual grid.? When you do a correction, this happens, his grid changes to FM19, which is the center of the US. Upload to LOTW as normal ? ROVING ? After roving, you have to go into TQSL and set up a new location (grid square, state) Name it the grid square from which you worked. (Or you could name it a location, like ?Home,? ?Rochelle.?) When you upload those QSO?s to LOTW, type in the grid square or squares from which you operated, in the? Station Location? box.?? For a grid line type it this way: ?EN52,62? with no spaces. If you have an error, it will show you.? Make sure you change back to ?Home? for the next QTH upload. ? ? LOTW INSTRUCTIONS ? Log into ARRL site, Logbook of The World site, or ARRL site and click LOTW on left, or go to LOTW.ARRL.org and log in. You can click Your QSO?s and do a search for any QSO?s that you want to find, by call. Click ?Most Recent QSL?s? to see confirmed QSL?s. Click ?Most Recent QSO?s to see what QSO?s are confirmed.? A blue ?United States? or country name means the QSO has been confirmed.? You can download from HRD. ? You can click ?Your Account? and then ?Your Activity? and see your last uploads.? Click ?Result? to see the details of the upload. ? Click AWARDS to see your grids for VUCC, etc. ? Brad KC9UQR From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Thu Sep 10 14:54:13 2020 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:54:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RS-44 Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tnx for the 14 contacts this morning on RS-44. And John got VT for his WAS! Congrats. All contacts uploaded to LoTW. Mike On 9/9/2020 6:13 PM, Mike Seguin wrote: > I plan to be on RS-44 tomorrow 9/10/2020 around 1425Z to hopefully work > John, AA2HJ from FN34im here in Vermont. Anyone needing VT, this looks > like a good CONUS pass. -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Thu Sep 10 23:04:06 2020 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:04:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AmicalSat2 updated TLEs? Message-ID: <1f5c90fe-fd91-f77d-4062-c291e42a7d77@mindspring.com> are there updated TLEs for AmicalSat-2? the ones I have issued right after launch day seem to be out of date. thanks 73 Christy KB6LTY From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Thu Sep 10 23:04:05 2020 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 18:04:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4 Ground Message-ID: ARDC awarded ORI $500,000 to do major development on the phase 4 ground digital communications terminal. ORI has assembled a tremendous engineering team to do this work. Congratulations to ORI. I was informed the check is in the mail. This is the largest grant ARDC has given to date. ORI was previously awarded large grants by the ARRL foundation and the Yasme foundation to support the work. 73s Bob N4HY From vk5qi at rfhead.net Thu Sep 10 23:12:49 2020 From: vk5qi at rfhead.net (Mark Jessop) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 08:42:49 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] AmicalSat2 updated TLEs? In-Reply-To: <1f5c90fe-fd91-f77d-4062-c291e42a7d77@mindspring.com> References: <1f5c90fe-fd91-f77d-4062-c291e42a7d77@mindspring.com> Message-ID: There are some better-fitting TLEs obtained from doppler measurement available here: https://community.libre.space/t/vega-vv16-launch-2020-09-03/6360/62?u=vk5qi 73 Mark VK5QI On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:34 AM christy hunter via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > are there updated TLEs for AmicalSat-2? the ones I have issued right > after launch day seem to be out of date. > > thanks > > 73 Christy KB6LTY > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruce at perens.com Fri Sep 11 00:39:18 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:39:18 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is just part of a complete plan to provide for the space and ground needs of amateur radio. Thus, you can expect to see additional grants on this scale. ORI remains an AMSAT-Affiliated organization, and the participation of AMSAT and its members is always welcome. Thanks Bruce On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 PM Robert McGwier wrote: > ARDC awarded ORI $500,000 to do major development on the phase 4 ground > digital communications terminal. ORI has assembled a tremendous engineering > team to do this work. > > Congratulations to ORI. I was informed the check is in the mail. This is > the largest grant ARDC has given to date. ORI was previously awarded large > grants by the ARRL foundation and the Yasme foundation to support the work. > > 73s > Bob > N4HY > > > > > > > From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 01:16:24 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 21:16:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bruce, Wowzers! That's a pile of money and it's kind of difficult for me to piece this together... but, whenever such a large amount of $ is involved, I always like to trace it. I'm digging through all this trying to figure out where the heck ARDC could come up with a metric (or english) pile of money like that to distribute in a grant and so-far, i've determined: 1) IANA designated 44/8 for "AMPRNET Amature Radio Experiment Net", back in the day... ref: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc790 2) Via some legal (questionable?) wizardry, ARDC was able to stake a claim to 100% of 44/8, and sell off IPs that were designated for Amateur Radio Experiment Net ref: https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/Courtesy-Notice-to-AG-Signed-ARDC.pdf 3) Robert McGwier (N4HY) is on the "2020 Grants Advisory Committee" for ARDC: ref: https://www.ampr.org/giving/ 4) And he's also involved with ORI: ref: https://openresearch.institute/public/mailing-lists/ground-station/ground-station/2018-April/000087.html 5) ORI ends up with a massive grant! I do admit.... this is incredible work! I have a few questions about RFC790 and the ownership of those IPs. Can you explain to everyone on the -bb, how the living heck ARDC had the legal right to ownership to all of those IPs. One thing is quite obvious from all of this... Namely, I need to quit my job and come work with you all of you! Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > This is just part of a complete plan to provide for the space and ground > needs of amateur radio. Thus, you can expect to see additional grants on > this scale. ORI remains an AMSAT-Affiliated organization, and the > participation of AMSAT and its members is always welcome. > > Thanks > > Bruce > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 PM Robert McGwier wrote: > > > ARDC awarded ORI $500,000 to do major development on the phase 4 ground > > digital communications terminal. ORI has assembled a tremendous > engineering > > team to do this work. > > > > Congratulations to ORI. I was informed the check is in the mail. This is > > the largest grant ARDC has given to date. ORI was previously awarded > large > > grants by the ARRL foundation and the Yasme foundation to support the > work. > > > > 73s > > Bob > > N4HY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 02:43:15 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:43:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone on the -bb, So, this is the first i've read about any of this amateur radio IP stuff and i'm still digging around, learning about it. I assume this is common knowledge in the amateur radio community... but as for me, this is news!!! I just whois'd 44.192.0.1 and saw good ole amazon: Organization: Amazon.com, Inc. (AMAZO-4) RegDate: 2019-07-18 So it appears at least Amazon purchased part of the addresses. Garsh... If only I was born a couple decades earlier, and went to school with Hank Magnuski, et al.... (ref [HM] RFC790)... Maybe, 'my charity inc' could have inherited part of that... I mean, what a deal!!! Now, according to wikipedia and other sources the sale raised over 50 million USD!!! (ref: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/a-civil-discussion-about-the-future-of-amsat-na.667517/page-4#post-5146742 ) 50 million american pesos!!!!!! Holy smokes!! ! ! ! ! !!!!! ! ! !!!! Now, i'm not sure if that figure is correct, can anyone on the -bb verify this? Two public references appear to suggest this number. If this figure is correct, can ARDC spare another, say... several million for a launch for AMSAT? All this moping around on the -bb, pretending that the amateur radio community does not have the funding for a launch at this point, all seems reasonably ridiculous to me now... Did I miss something? K, Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 9:16 PM Joseph Armbruster < josepharmbruster at gmail.com> wrote: > Bruce, > > Wowzers! That's a pile of money and it's kind of difficult for me to > piece this together... but, whenever such a large amount of $ is involved, > I always like to trace it. I'm digging through all this trying to figure > out where the heck ARDC could come up with a metric (or english) pile of > money like that to distribute in a grant and so-far, i've determined: > > 1) IANA designated 44/8 for "AMPRNET Amature Radio Experiment Net", back > in the day... > ref: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc790 > > 2) Via some legal (questionable?) wizardry, ARDC was able to stake a > claim to 100% of 44/8, and sell off IPs that were designated for Amateur > Radio Experiment Net > ref: > https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/Courtesy-Notice-to-AG-Signed-ARDC.pdf > > 3) Robert McGwier (N4HY) is on the "2020 Grants Advisory Committee" for > ARDC: > ref: https://www.ampr.org/giving/ > > 4) And he's also involved with ORI: > ref: > https://openresearch.institute/public/mailing-lists/ground-station/ground-station/2018-April/000087.html > > 5) ORI ends up with a massive grant! > > I do admit.... this is incredible work! I have a few questions about > RFC790 and the ownership of those IPs. Can you explain to everyone on the > -bb, how the living heck ARDC had the legal right to ownership to all of > those IPs. > > One thing is quite obvious from all of this... Namely, I need to quit my > job and come work with you all of you! > > Joseph Armbruster > KJ4JIO > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> This is just part of a complete plan to provide for the space and ground >> needs of amateur radio. Thus, you can expect to see additional grants on >> this scale. ORI remains an AMSAT-Affiliated organization, and the >> participation of AMSAT and its members is always welcome. >> >> Thanks >> >> Bruce >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 PM Robert McGwier wrote: >> >> > ARDC awarded ORI $500,000 to do major development on the phase 4 ground >> > digital communications terminal. ORI has assembled a tremendous >> engineering >> > team to do this work. >> > >> > Congratulations to ORI. I was informed the check is in the mail. This >> is >> > the largest grant ARDC has given to date. ORI was previously awarded >> large >> > grants by the ARRL foundation and the Yasme foundation to support the >> work. >> > >> > 73s >> > Bob >> > N4HY >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From bruce at perens.com Fri Sep 11 02:40:58 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:40:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 6:13 PM Joseph Armbruster < josepharmbruster at gmail.com> wrote: > One thing is quite obvious from all of this... Namely, I need to quit my > job and come work with you all of you! > It's a volunteer project, and you are welcome to help, as are all AMSAT members and all Radio Amateurs,* regardless of where they live. *Because of that ITAR stuff we worked out. All but one of the present ARDC board of directors that I know of are AMSAT members of very high stature and long standing. Bob McGwier who was AMSAT CTO and board member. Phil Karn has done a lot of the digital innovation of AMSAT and we recently saw his work on a radio buoy, Bdale Garbee did a lot of work on P3D, including a GPS that was meant to operate above the GPS constellation. Brian Kantor recently passed away, and deserves a lot of the thanks for all of this, and I don't know if he was a satellite op, but he was definitely a digital ham. Long, long ago, Brian and Phil Karn and others of the digital amateur radio pioneers set up an IP network for Amateur Radio. Because nobody took the Internet seriously, we were granted a class-A network for Amateur Radio, with 16,777,216 addresses just in our part. This was "net 44", because the addresses were of the form 44.0.0.0 . It was also called AMPR.org for the DNS system. I operated a station in this network using the KA9Q software and a Kantronics TNC. In the present time, people have grown to take the Internet a lot more seriously, and the world ran out of IPV4 addresses in their 32-bit space. We now have IPV6, which has a much larger address space, but IPV4 is still important. So, Brian and friends sold 3/4 of our addresses to Amazon for a lot of money, and formed a non-profit to manage it. We still have more than enough IPV4 addresses for ham radio, and the fact is that most new work would be on IPV6. Entertainingly, my Amazon Lightsail server is on net 44 now. Thanks Bruce From bruce at perens.com Fri Sep 11 02:53:56 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:53:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:40 PM Joseph Armbruster < josepharmbruster at gmail.com> wrote: > If this figure is correct, can ARDC spare another, say... several million > for a launch for AMSAT? > Yeah, probably. One thing you need to be clear about. Everything that ARDC funds must be Open. It's their rule. So, it's going to need some change in the direction of AMSAT. I can't speak for the ARDC guys at all, but I know that some of them have reason to be upset with AMSAT and have said so. Over misdirected donations, and some organizational issues, and some of the technical direction, and definitely that "Open" thing. I knew this was happening for a long time, and it was always close to my mind during the election discussion, and I could not talk about it. Now you might understand more of were I was coming from. Thanks Bruce From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 03:55:42 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 23:55:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To me this is a huge reason for AMSAT to embrace open source. It looks like there is a path through the ITAR/EAR limitation. ARDC has greater than $50 million and plan to give away 5% a year from what I read. That's $2.5 million a year for 20 years. There is plenty of time for AMSAT to figure out how to go all open source and win grants. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 22:55 Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:40 PM Joseph Armbruster < > josepharmbruster at gmail.com> wrote: > > > If this figure is correct, can ARDC spare another, say... several million > > for a launch for AMSAT? > > > > Yeah, probably. One thing you need to be clear about. Everything that ARDC > funds must be Open. It's their rule. So, it's going to need some change in > the direction of AMSAT. > From bruce at perens.com Fri Sep 11 03:58:06 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 20:58:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:55 PM John Brier wrote: > That's $2.5 million a year for 20 years. > Actually, it is not limited to 20 years. Granting organizations invest their funds, and grant from the income. This is probably meant to still be going long from now. Thanks Bruce From vu2exp at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 04:39:26 2020 From: vu2exp at gmail.com (Rajesh Vagadia - VU2EXP) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:09:26 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] Two VU Hams successfully did QSOs via Six different FM Satellites in single day Message-ID: Dear hams, We are enjoying AMSAT-UK OSCAR QSO Party from VU Land. 9th September 2020 proved memorable day for myself Rajesh VU2EXP & Lucky VU2LBW from India. We successfully worked via Six different FM Satellites in single day from VU Land. It's personal record for us for such satellite activities in region. Some satellite were 18 year (SO-50) to 27 year (AO-27) old, which all favoured us. The list of satellite we worked through were AO-91 (0650Z), PO-101 (0830Z), AO-27 (1305Z), SO-50 (1514Z), AO-92 (1712Z) & ARISS - ISS (1714Z). That's all the satellites I am getting from my region (ML52jh) & have capabilities to work with my portable setup consisting pair of HT & Homebrew IOio Antenna! There were bit challenges like uncertainty of AO-92 switching to L mode or turning into safe mode during eclipse, some passes (AO-92 & ISS) were at the same time and in different directions, low elevation of 3? ISS pass at VU2LBW's end, power failure at partners end for some moments, possibility of raining which could have interrupted my portable operation etc! We did our best and continued chasing via each satellite & exchanged 59 reports from all 6 birds. So exciting experience for us. I am very thankful to VU2LBW for cooperating with lots of patience. I was on my portable setup operating from my terrace whereas I was benefited with decent setup of VU2LBW located at MK82tv. What a great memorable day! 73's Rajesh Vagadia VU2EXP Regional Coordinator West India Zone AMSAT-INDIA Rajkot (Gujarat) INDIA E: vu2exp at gmail.com From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 05:11:14 2020 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:11:14 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Two VU Hams successfully did QSOs via Six different FM Satellites in single day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92A5274D-4FAB-4A93-B6AD-6B14F9CBB9D7@gmail.com> Congratulations Rajesh, Let us know when you have such events and if passes favorable we may have slight windows between VU and 3B8. In such case put also the President of ARRA , Patrick FR5FC in Reunion Island (in copy), in copy he may disseminate the info so that we promote satellite operations in the region. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Sep 11, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Rajesh Vagadia - VU2EXP via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Dear hams, > > We are enjoying AMSAT-UK OSCAR QSO Party from VU Land. 9th September 2020 > proved memorable day for myself Rajesh VU2EXP & Lucky VU2LBW from India. > > We successfully worked via Six different FM Satellites in single day from > VU Land. It's personal record for us for such satellite activities in > region. Some satellite were 18 year (SO-50) to 27 year (AO-27) old, which > all favoured us. > > The list of satellite we worked through were AO-91 (0650Z), PO-101 (0830Z), > AO-27 (1305Z), SO-50 (1514Z), AO-92 (1712Z) & ARISS - ISS (1714Z). That's > all the satellites I am getting from my region (ML52jh) & have capabilities > to work with my portable setup consisting pair of HT & Homebrew IOio > Antenna! > > There were bit challenges like uncertainty of AO-92 switching to L mode or > turning into safe mode during eclipse, some passes (AO-92 & ISS) were at > the same time and in different directions, low elevation of 3? ISS pass at > VU2LBW's end, power failure at partners end for some moments, possibility > of raining which could have interrupted my portable operation etc! We did > our best and continued chasing via each satellite & exchanged 59 reports > from all 6 birds. So exciting experience for us. I am very thankful to > VU2LBW for cooperating with lots of patience. I was on my portable setup > operating from my terrace whereas I was benefited with decent setup of > VU2LBW located at MK82tv. > > What a great memorable day! > > 73's > > Rajesh Vagadia VU2EXP > Regional Coordinator > West India Zone > AMSAT-INDIA > Rajkot (Gujarat) INDIA > E: vu2exp at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From karn at ka9q.net Fri Sep 11 05:41:39 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:41:39 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> On 9/10/20 19:40, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > In the present time, people have grown to take the Internet a lot more > seriously, and the world ran out of IPV4 addresses in their 32-bit space. > We now have IPV6, which has a much larger address space, but IPV4 is still > important. So, Brian and friends sold 3/4 of our addresses to Amazon for a > lot of money, and formed a non-profit to manage it. Correction: ARDC sold 1/4 (not 3/4) of its original IPv4 address block, 44.0.0.0/8. The part that was sold is 44.192.0.0/10, i.e., the top quarter, which had never been used on the "real" Internet though it had been used internally in some European ampr subnets. ampr.org still has the bottom 3/4 of its original assignment: 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10. Hams running IP are still able to use these two blocks. The 44.0.0.0/8 block was originally obtained by Hank Magnuski, KA6M, in the early 1980s, literally for the cost of a phone call. It did not see much use until the mid 1980s when I began work on my KA9Q NOS TCP/IP package; at that time, Hank transferred control of the 44 block to me. Brian Kantor WB6CYT and Wally Lindstruth WA6JPR soon joined in its management, with Brian running much of the infrastructure out of the University of California San Diego (UCSD) where he spent his entire career. NONE of us had any idea whatsoever that these numbers would someday have serious monetary value. We did amprnet simply because we really believed in the potential of the Internet and, as hams, felt ham radio was the perfect place to experiment with the Internet protocols. (Some of you have fond memories of those days, as do I.) We thought it was a cool idea that would find good uses, but we had no idea that the Internet over radio would change the world as much as it did. It certainly changed my life; in 1991 I moved from New Jersey to San Diego to accept a position with Qualcomm largely on the basis of my work with TCP/IP over ham radio, and Brian and I became very close friends. In the early 2010s, Brian obtained Hank's and my consent to transfer formal ownership of this address block to a nonprofit he created for the purpose: Amateur Radio Digital Communications, or ARDC. (Wally Lindstruth had passed away by this time). In 2018 and 2019, with full knowledge and consent of the ARDC board, Brian negotiated the sale of the 44.192.0.0/10 block with the proceeds to ARDC to be used for a wide range of charitable grants to benefit ham radio, the Internet, and especially the intersection of the two and their role in STEM education. Unfortunately, the nature of the IP address market and the size of the sale necessitated secrecy, which none of us liked. A nondisclosure agreement still limits what we can publicly say about the terms of the sale, though some facts can be readily determined from public sources such as the "whois" database and IP address market data. Brian passed away unexpectedly in November 2019 and I've taken over as president and chair of ARDC. Hank continues to serve on the grant review committee chaired by John Hays, K7VE. Since ARDC is an IRS 501(c)(3) nonprofit foundation, it is required to file detailed tax returns (990 forms) with the IRS; this will happen very shortly. By law, nonprofit tax returns are publicly available. Phil Karn, KA9Q ARDC President & Chair From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 07:07:15 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 03:07:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since someone complained about not clipping emails. I will try to do it when I can :-) It's harder to do on mobile. On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:58 PM Bruce Perens wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:55 PM John Brier wrote: >> >> That's $2.5 million a year for 20 years. > > > Actually, it is not limited to 20 years. Granting organizations invest their funds, and grant from the income. This is probably meant to still be going long from now. > Clearly you're talking to someone who doesn't invest. I imagine you could make a lot of money off that amount of money. Good point! 73, John Brier KG4AKV From karn at ka9q.net Fri Sep 11 07:35:47 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:35:47 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/10/20 20:55, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote: > To me this is a huge reason for AMSAT to embrace open source. Yes, ARDC funding is a reason but it's not the only one. Everybody on the ARDC board and grant committee agrees that one of the main reasons (if not THE main reason) for amateur radio's continued existence is its unique value as an educational tool. Not just formal classroom instruction but the kind of self-directed, hands-on tinkering and experimentation with electronics and communications that is still unique to ham radio. When I became a ham in 1971 at age 14, I didn't want to just talk on the radio. I wanted to know how radios worked, what was behind the knobs. I carried a sheaf of Heathkit schematics around with me in school, peeking at them in class as other kids might peek at comic books. I learned a lot by studying them and by modifying and experimenting on the old ham gear (much of it Heathkit) I could actually afford. It cemented my decision to get my EE degrees and specifically to go into the communications industry. Ham radio set the entire direction of my life. There's been a huge amount of progress in electronic communications over 50 years. But not all of it has been for the better when it comes to learning by taking things apart. Take an iPhone apart and figure out how it works. Good luck! That's where open source comes in. It's become a very successful development model, mainly for software but increasingly also for hardware. It works because open source is above all an excellent educational tool. Anybody -- even students with no money -- can get an open source design, take it apart, study it, experiment with it, break it, fix it. Maybe even improve it, share your work with others, build a reputation and turn it into a career. So, ARDC aside, open source is very much in keeping with the spirit and history of ham radio. In fact, it's now essential to the survival of ham radio, including the amateur satellite service. No, you don't *have* to know anything about how a radio works just to use one. But what's the point? If you want to talk on a satellite, and you only care that it works, not *how* it works, you might be better served by Iridium (or soon Starlink) than by amateur radio satellites. Quite frankly, ham radio will never compete favorably with Iridium or Starlink, nor could it because of FCC restrictions. So what's the point of developing an amateur radio satellite unless it's all in the open? ARDC is a nonprofit foundation so all of our grants must be for charitable purposes. That does not include making money unless *that* money is used for charitable purposes. (Our endowment income goes into grants). But the development of open source technology freely available to anyone for any purpose *is* a completely legitimate charitable purpose; in fact, quite a few open source projects are already supported by foundations. And if one of our grants helps inspire a young person into a successful STEM career, well, I personally can't think of a single better use for our money. --Phil From karn at ka9q.net Fri Sep 11 07:39:45 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:39:45 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/11/20 00:07, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >>> That's $2.5 million a year for 20 years. >> >> Actually, it is not limited to 20 years. Granting organizations invest their funds, and grant from the income. This is probably meant to still be going long from now. >> > Clearly you're talking to someone who doesn't invest. I imagine you > could make a lot of money off that amount of money. Good point! The IRS requires charitable foundations that earn most of their income from investments (as opposed to public donations) to give away at least 5% of their assets every year. Unfortunately, that number doesn't seem to change with inflation or the prevailing market returns so it may or may not be possible to make grants in perpetuity without growing your endowment from other sources. Phil From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 10:43:10 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:43:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> References: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> Message-ID: Phil, This is one heckuva story! And, you filled in several of the gaps that I was unable to dig up online, at least in a few minutes of pointing/clicking/clacking. I did notice the 2019 tax forms were unavailable, can't wait to diff 2018 2019 (the addition of 0's will be magical). I had a hard time sleeping last night thinking about how one little phone call back in 1980 could result in all this. So Hank transferred the block of IPs to you, individually? Was that the kind of thing where you were all working on a campus together and it was all word-of-mouth or was it a more formal act on paper? In 2010 though, why did Brian need to ask Hank at all? I mean at that point, they were your individual property. I'm surprised whatever university you were attending did not try to stake a claim to them. Was there any paper trail regarding the ownership / transfer between the original 1980 phone call request and ARDC's inheritance? This is one of the most amazing stories and biggest mind-blowers I have encountered in amateur radio history. Has anyone written an article / short story about this? If-not, someone needs to etch this one into the books, it's quite incredible. Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:46 AM Phil Karn via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On 9/10/20 19:40, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > > In the present time, people have grown to take the Internet a lot more > > seriously, and the world ran out of IPV4 addresses in their 32-bit space. > > We now have IPV6, which has a much larger address space, but IPV4 is > still > > important. So, Brian and friends sold 3/4 of our addresses to Amazon for > a > > lot of money, and formed a non-profit to manage it. > > Correction: ARDC sold 1/4 (not 3/4) of its original IPv4 address block, > 44.0.0.0/8. The part that was sold is 44.192.0.0/10, i.e., the top > quarter, which had never been used on the "real" Internet though it had > been used internally in some European ampr subnets. > > ampr.org still has the bottom 3/4 of its original assignment: 44.0.0.0/9 > and 44.128.0.0/10. Hams running IP are still able to use these two blocks. > > The 44.0.0.0/8 block was originally obtained by Hank Magnuski, KA6M, in > the early 1980s, literally for the cost of a phone call. It did not see > much use until the mid 1980s when I began work on my KA9Q NOS TCP/IP > package; at that time, Hank transferred control of the 44 block to me. > Brian Kantor WB6CYT and Wally Lindstruth WA6JPR soon joined in its > management, with Brian running much of the infrastructure out of the > University of California San Diego (UCSD) where he spent his entire career. > > NONE of us had any idea whatsoever that these numbers would someday have > serious monetary value. We did amprnet simply because we really believed > in the potential of the Internet and, as hams, felt ham radio was the > perfect place to experiment with the Internet protocols. (Some of you > have fond memories of those days, as do I.) We thought it was a cool > idea that would find good uses, but we had no idea that the Internet > over radio would change the world as much as it did. It certainly > changed my life; in 1991 I moved from New Jersey to San Diego to accept > a position with Qualcomm largely on the basis of my work with TCP/IP > over ham radio, and Brian and I became very close friends. > > In the early 2010s, Brian obtained Hank's and my consent to transfer > formal ownership of this address block to a nonprofit he created for the > purpose: Amateur Radio Digital Communications, or ARDC. (Wally > Lindstruth had passed away by this time). In 2018 and 2019, with full > knowledge and consent of the ARDC board, Brian negotiated the sale of > the 44.192.0.0/10 block with the proceeds to ARDC to be used for a wide > range of charitable grants to benefit ham radio, the Internet, and > especially the intersection of the two and their role in STEM education. > Unfortunately, the nature of the IP address market and the size of the > sale necessitated secrecy, which none of us liked. A nondisclosure > agreement still limits what we can publicly say about the terms of the > sale, though some facts can be readily determined from public sources > such as the "whois" database and IP address market data. > > Brian passed away unexpectedly in November 2019 and I've taken over as > president and chair of ARDC. Hank continues to serve on the grant review > committee chaired by John Hays, K7VE. > > Since ARDC is an IRS 501(c)(3) nonprofit foundation, it is required to > file detailed tax returns (990 forms) with the IRS; this will happen > very shortly. By law, nonprofit tax returns are publicly available. > > Phil Karn, KA9Q > > ARDC President & Chair > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From karn at ka9q.net Fri Sep 11 12:25:54 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 05:25:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> Message-ID: <1ab72ac8-4346-f36d-71b7-65b1944fcde0@ka9q.net> On 9/11/20 03:43, Joseph Armbruster wrote: > > So Hank transferred the block of IPs to you, individually?? Was that > the kind of thing where you were all working on a campus together and > it was all word-of-mouth or was it a more formal act on paper?? In > 2010 though, why did Brian need to ask Hank at all?? I mean at that > point, they were your individual property.? I'm surprised whatever > university you were attending did not try to stake a claim to them.? > Was there any paper trail regarding the ownership / transfer between > the original 1980 phone call request and ARDC's inheritance? IP addresses were registered somewhat informally in the early days when the Internet was a research project and address blocks were free, but they were regularly published in various Internet documents like RFCs (Requests for Comments). When the Internet grew up, more formal entities like ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers) and ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), among others, were created to register who owned what and to make those databases publicly available. At various times, Hank, Brian and I were on all these lists next to network 44, making us each at various times the legal owners. I haven't been a student anywhere since I graduated from CMU with my MSEE in 1979. Since control had been passed informally between us over the years according to whoever was then most willing to do the work, when IPv4 addresses began to get scarce we got concerned that someone might try to grab them from us hams. So Brian proposed to create the nonprofit ARDC to legally own network 44. Since Hank's name and mine had also been associated with 44 at various times, Brian thought it important to make sure all of us were OK with it. I for one never thought twice about it. In fact, when it later dawned on us just *how* much this thing might soon be worth, I was even more glad that we'd all agreed. For many years Brian rejected inquiries to buy or even lease part of network 44, but eventually we (the ARDC board) realized that, with IPv6 finally being deployed, IPv4 addresses wouldn't be in demand forever. So we authorized him to seek a buyer of the upper 1/4 that had never been used. I never quite let myself believe that Brian would pull it off. But he did, and now we have a pretty good endowment to do neat things with in ham radio, open source and STEM education. What really ticks me off, and always will, is that Brian had the vision and did all the hard work yet only lived long enough to see our first two grants (TAPR student scholarships and the ARISS power supply project).? Fate has a truly wicked sense of humor. Phil From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 12:47:26 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 08:47:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: <1ab72ac8-4346-f36d-71b7-65b1944fcde0@ka9q.net> References: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> <1ab72ac8-4346-f36d-71b7-65b1944fcde0@ka9q.net> Message-ID: Phil, I appreciate your summary of all this. Apparently, I am late to the game on this news story, but maybe I am not the only one and hopefully others on the -bb learned something from this moment in history. I know I sure did!! Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:25 AM Phil Karn wrote: > On 9/11/20 03:43, Joseph Armbruster wrote: > > > > So Hank transferred the block of IPs to you, individually? Was that > > the kind of thing where you were all working on a campus together and > > it was all word-of-mouth or was it a more formal act on paper? In > > 2010 though, why did Brian need to ask Hank at all? I mean at that > > point, they were your individual property. I'm surprised whatever > > university you were attending did not try to stake a claim to them. > > Was there any paper trail regarding the ownership / transfer between > > the original 1980 phone call request and ARDC's inheritance? > > IP addresses were registered somewhat informally in the early days when > the Internet was a research project and address blocks were free, but > they were regularly published in various Internet documents like RFCs > (Requests for Comments). When the Internet grew up, more formal entities > like ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers) and ICANN (Internet > Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), among others, were created > to register who owned what and to make those databases publicly > available. At various times, Hank, Brian and I were on all these lists > next to network 44, making us each at various times the legal owners. > > I haven't been a student anywhere since I graduated from CMU with my > MSEE in 1979. > > Since control had been passed informally between us over the years > according to whoever was then most willing to do the work, when IPv4 > addresses began to get scarce we got concerned that someone might try to > grab them from us hams. So Brian proposed to create the nonprofit ARDC > to legally own network 44. Since Hank's name and mine had also been > associated with 44 at various times, Brian thought it important to make > sure all of us were OK with it. I for one never thought twice about it. > In fact, when it later dawned on us just *how* much this thing might > soon be worth, I was even more glad that we'd all agreed. > > For many years Brian rejected inquiries to buy or even lease part of > network 44, but eventually we (the ARDC board) realized that, with IPv6 > finally being deployed, IPv4 addresses wouldn't be in demand forever. So > we authorized him to seek a buyer of the upper 1/4 that had never been > used. I never quite let myself believe that Brian would pull it off. But > he did, and now we have a pretty good endowment to do neat things with > in ham radio, open source and STEM education. > > What really ticks me off, and always will, is that Brian had the vision > and did all the hard work yet only lived long enough to see our first > two grants (TAPR student scholarships and the ARISS power supply > project). Fate has a truly wicked sense of humor. > > Phil > > > > From karn at ka9q.net Fri Sep 11 13:04:22 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:04:22 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> <1ab72ac8-4346-f36d-71b7-65b1944fcde0@ka9q.net> Message-ID: <49b743c5-a061-0816-f55b-6061ac1de9f5@ka9q.net> On 9/11/20 05:47, Joseph Armbruster wrote: > Phil, > > I appreciate your summary of all this.? Apparently, I am late to the > game on this news story, but maybe I am?not the only one and hopefully > others on the -bb learned something from this moment in?history.? I > know I sure did!! > > Joseph Armbruster > KJ4JIO > Sure. It just occurred to me that I probably never posted this to amsat-bb. I wrote it for Brian Kantor's memorial service back in early February (which already seems a lifetime ago). It touches on the history of amprnet and ARDC since that was so important to him. http://www.ka9q.net/brian-eulogy.pages.pdf --Phil From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc Fri Sep 11 13:05:23 2020 From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:05:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> <1ab72ac8-4346-f36d-71b7-65b1944fcde0@ka9q.net> Message-ID: Indeed this is fascinating! Thanks for sharing it, Phil. I wonder if there are any other non-commercial entities holding big blocks of addresses. I suppose it would not be THAT hard to find out. (I'm pretty sure HP via Digital holds a whole quad's worth unless they have sold it off or split it among their various spin-offs since I worked there, but this obviously a commercial entity). MIT? Stanford? 73, Burns WB1FJ On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:48 AM Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Phil, > > I appreciate your summary of all this. Apparently, I am late to the game > on this news story, but maybe I am not the only one and hopefully others on > the -bb learned something from this moment in history. I know I sure did!! > > Joseph Armbruster > KJ4JIO > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:25 AM Phil Karn wrote: > > > On 9/11/20 03:43, Joseph Armbruster wrote: > > > > > > So Hank transferred the block of IPs to you, individually? Was that > > > the kind of thing where you were all working on a campus together and > > > it was all word-of-mouth or was it a more formal act on paper? In > > > 2010 though, why did Brian need to ask Hank at all? I mean at that > > > point, they were your individual property. I'm surprised whatever > > > university you were attending did not try to stake a claim to them. > > > Was there any paper trail regarding the ownership / transfer between > > > the original 1980 phone call request and ARDC's inheritance? > > > > IP addresses were registered somewhat informally in the early days when > > the Internet was a research project and address blocks were free, but > > they were regularly published in various Internet documents like RFCs > > (Requests for Comments). When the Internet grew up, more formal entities > > like ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers) and ICANN (Internet > > Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), among others, were created > > to register who owned what and to make those databases publicly > > available. At various times, Hank, Brian and I were on all these lists > > next to network 44, making us each at various times the legal owners. > > > > I haven't been a student anywhere since I graduated from CMU with my > > MSEE in 1979. > > > > Since control had been passed informally between us over the years > > according to whoever was then most willing to do the work, when IPv4 > > addresses began to get scarce we got concerned that someone might try to > > grab them from us hams. So Brian proposed to create the nonprofit ARDC > > to legally own network 44. Since Hank's name and mine had also been > > associated with 44 at various times, Brian thought it important to make > > sure all of us were OK with it. I for one never thought twice about it. > > In fact, when it later dawned on us just *how* much this thing might > > soon be worth, I was even more glad that we'd all agreed. > > > > For many years Brian rejected inquiries to buy or even lease part of > > network 44, but eventually we (the ARDC board) realized that, with IPv6 > > finally being deployed, IPv4 addresses wouldn't be in demand forever. So > > we authorized him to seek a buyer of the upper 1/4 that had never been > > used. I never quite let myself believe that Brian would pull it off. But > > he did, and now we have a pretty good endowment to do neat things with > > in ham radio, open source and STEM education. > > > > What really ticks me off, and always will, is that Brian had the vision > > and did all the hard work yet only lived long enough to see our first > > two grants (TAPR student scholarships and the ARISS power supply > > project). Fate has a truly wicked sense of humor. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 13:11:31 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:11:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bruce, When you say "everything that ARDC funds must be Open", as an observer, it makes me squirm in my seat just a little bit. First, there's nothing in their articles of incorporation about that, ref: https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/articles.pdf. I know that only means so much, and says nothing about it's membership and how they feel about things, but it is sufficient to say, that it funded at least one activity, namely the sale of some amateur IPs to a commercial entity, that many would argue is not an "Open" activity. I suppose exceptions can always be made when there are Mega-bucks involved :-). I get it. I completely understand Phils response and how it is an action of financial opportunity, which has and will continue to benefit the amateur community. Nothing more to say except high-five to Phil and his crew for being in the right place at the right time, maintaining good relationships and leveraging a resource at a good time! Quite the story, indeed! Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:54 PM Bruce Perens wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:40 PM Joseph Armbruster < > josepharmbruster at gmail.com> wrote: > >> If this figure is correct, can ARDC spare another, say... several million >> for a launch for AMSAT? >> > > Yeah, probably. One thing you need to be clear about. Everything that ARDC > funds must be Open. It's their rule. So, it's going to need some change in > the direction of AMSAT. > > I can't speak for the ARDC guys at all, but I know that some of them have > reason to be upset with AMSAT and have said so. Over misdirected donations, > and some organizational issues, and some of the technical direction, and > definitely that "Open" thing. > > I knew this was happening for a long time, and it was always close to my > mind during the election discussion, and I could not talk about it. Now you > might understand more of were I was coming from. > > Thanks > > Bruce > From matthias.bopp at dd1us.de Fri Sep 11 13:04:06 2020 From: matthias.bopp at dd1us.de (Matthias Bopp) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:04:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-DL online symposium 2020 Message-ID: AMSAT-DL Online Symposium on September 26th 2020 Unfortunately, the AMSAT-DL Symposium planned for September 26th and 27th, 2020 cannot take place this year in the usual manner. Since the health of everyone is very close to our hearts and the legal framework currently leaves no other option, we have decided not to hold a meeting on site in Bochum this year. We regret this very much, but the premises only allow an occupancy of less than 20 persons. A "social" meeting with dinner is unfortunately not possible either, nor is a flea market and other activities, such as the QO-100 User Meeting, which happened for the first time during the HAM Radio Fair in Friedrichshafen in 2019. Instead, we will broadcast the symposium as an "online" meeting in DATV via the broadband transponder of QO-100 and on the Internet on the YouTube channel of AMSAT-DL (https://www.youtube.com/user/amsatdl). Enclosed is the preliminary schedule for September 26th 2020 (all times in CEST=UTC+2): Start Topic Who 09:00 Welcome, Introduction, Agenda Matthias DD1US 09:10 Interview with the AMSAT-DL Board of Directors: Peter DB2OS (Chairman), Michael DD5ER, Thilo DJ5YM Matthias DD1US 09:45 Introduction to Bochum Observatory and its Ham Radio activities Thilo DJ5YM 10:10 The AMSAT-DL LunART project proposal to ESA Peter DB2OS 10:35 The ADALM Pluto as part of the AMSAT-DL QO-100 control station in Bochum Mario DL5MLO 11:10 Portable station for QO-100 based on the modules of AMSAT-DL Matthias DD1US 12:00 Lunch break 12:45 QO-100 DX-pedition to Namibia/South Africa/Botswana Charly DK3ZL 13:45 Digital Narrowband Operation via QO-100 Florian DF2ET 14:20 School contacts via QO-100 with DP0GVN in Antarctica Heiner DD0KP 14:55 Update of ARISS and AREx activities Oliver DG6BCE 15:45 Coffee break 16:00 Reception of the recently launched probes to Mars Daniel EA4GPZ, Paul M0EYT, Achim DH2VA 16:50 Final interview with the AMSAT-DL BOD and conclusions: Peter DB2OS (Chairman), Michael DD5ER, Thilo DJ5YM Matthias DD1US 17:10 Introduction to the virtual QO-100 user meeting Matthias DD1US 17:20 Virtual QO-100 user meeting via the QO-100 NB transponder Florian DF2ET 17:50 Closing of the symposium and virtual QO-100 user meeting Matthias DD1US Due to the international audience, most of the lectures will be held in English. The current schedule can be found on the AMSAT-DL homepage at https://amsat-dl.org. We would like to invite you all, also on behalf of the AMSAT-DL board, to this year's AMSAT-DL online conference and the virtual QO-100 user meeting. Jens DH6BB, Lenz DL8RDL, Florian DF2ET and Matthias DD1US Please send any queries to Matthias DD1US From karn at ka9q.net Fri Sep 11 13:41:21 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:41:21 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05d6a206-951c-378b-f045-ebde43400d0e@ka9q.net> On 9/11/20 06:11, Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Bruce, > > When you say "everything that ARDC funds must be Open", as an observer, it > makes me squirm in my seat just a little bit. First, there's nothing in > their articles of incorporation about that, ref: > https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/articles.pdf. Nonprofits are advised to keep their articles of incorporation as general as possible and put the more specific stuff in the Bylaws where they can be more easily changed as needed. > I know that only > means so much, and says nothing about it's membership and how they feel > about things, but it is sufficient to say, that it funded at least one > activity, namely the sale of some amateur IPs to a commercial entity, that > many would argue is not an "Open" activity. I suppose exceptions can > always be made when there are Mega-bucks involved :-). I get it. I > completely understand Phils response and how it is an action of financial > opportunity, which has and will continue to benefit the amateur community. > Nothing more to say except high-five to Phil and his crew for being in the > right place at the right time, maintaining good relationships and > leveraging a resource at a good time! Quite the story, indeed! ARDC is not a membership organization. Its policy is set by its board of directors. We have a pretty specific and widely accepted definition of "open": any intellectual property we fund must be made freely available under one of the accepted open source or Creative Commons licenses, as appropriate. It does not mean that anything and everything ARDC has in its files must be published. I don't think you'd expect us to openly publish access credentials for our investment accounts, for example. But we will release our financial information as required for any nonprofit. ARDC expects to fund most open IP development through grants, but we may also offer to "buy out" certain specific pieces of existing IP. E.g., we may pay the publisher of a book or magazine or the author of a proprietary computer program that we consider especially valuable to make their work freely available under an open source or Creative Commons license. Either way, ARDC's primary purpose is to increase the amount of freely available technology, technical and educational information available to hams and other experimenters. Since our ultimate goal is education, we also contribute to scholarship funds. This year we created a block of new scholarships through the Foundation for Amateur Radio and we also matched, dollar for dollar, every existing scholarship awarded by the ARRL Foundation. Phil From mat_62 at charter.net Fri Sep 11 15:02:47 2020 From: mat_62 at charter.net (Michael Tondee) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:02:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Wow! Sounds like you guys have done and are doing an awful lot for the hobby. My thanks to you. It appears there are resources out there if AMSAT is willing to do what's necessary to have access to them. I guess the question is what's that involve? Is it simply just going open source or is there more to it than that? Are there other stumbling blocks that they wouldn't be comfortable with for some reason? 73, Michael, W4HIJ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:41:39 -0700 > From: Phil Karn > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and > it's only the first. > Message-ID: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66 at ka9q.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 9/10/20 19:40, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> In the present time, people have grown to take the Internet a lot more >> seriously, and the world ran out of IPV4 addresses in their 32-bit space. >> We now have IPV6, which has a much larger address space, but IPV4 is still >> important. So, Brian and friends sold 3/4 of our addresses to Amazon for a >> lot of money, and formed a non-profit to manage it. > Correction: ARDC sold 1/4 (not 3/4) of its original IPv4 address block, > 44.0.0.0/8. The part that was sold is 44.192.0.0/10, i.e., the top > quarter, which had never been used on the "real" Internet though it had > been used internally in some European ampr subnets. > > ampr.org still has the bottom 3/4 of its original assignment: 44.0.0.0/9 > and 44.128.0.0/10. Hams running IP are still able to use these two blocks. > > The 44.0.0.0/8 block was originally obtained by Hank Magnuski, KA6M, in > the early 1980s, literally for the cost of a phone call. It did not see > much use until the mid 1980s when I began work on my KA9Q NOS TCP/IP > package; at that time, Hank transferred control of the 44 block to me. > Brian Kantor WB6CYT and Wally Lindstruth WA6JPR soon joined in its > management, with Brian running much of the infrastructure out of the > University of California San Diego (UCSD) where he spent his entire career. > > NONE of us had any idea whatsoever that these numbers would someday have > serious monetary value. We did amprnet simply because we really believed > in the potential of the Internet and, as hams, felt ham radio was the > perfect place to experiment with the Internet protocols. (Some of you > have fond memories of those days, as do I.) We thought it was a cool > idea that would find good uses, but we had no idea that the Internet > over radio would change the world as much as it did. It certainly > changed my life; in 1991 I moved from New Jersey to San Diego to accept > a position with Qualcomm largely on the basis of my work with TCP/IP > over ham radio, and Brian and I became very close friends. > > In the early 2010s, Brian obtained Hank's and my consent to transfer > formal ownership of this address block to a nonprofit he created for the > purpose: Amateur Radio Digital Communications, or ARDC. (Wally > Lindstruth had passed away by this time). In 2018 and 2019, with full > knowledge and consent of the ARDC board, Brian negotiated the sale of > the 44.192.0.0/10 block with the proceeds to ARDC to be used for a wide > range of charitable grants to benefit ham radio, the Internet, and > especially the intersection of the two and their role in STEM education. > Unfortunately, the nature of the IP address market and the size of the > sale necessitated secrecy, which none of us liked. A nondisclosure > agreement still limits what we can publicly say about the terms of the > sale, though some facts can be readily determined from public sources > such as the "whois" database and IP address market data. > > Brian passed away unexpectedly in November 2019 and I've taken over as > president and chair of ARDC. Hank continues to serve on the grant review > committee chaired by John Hays, K7VE. > > Since ARDC is an IRS 501(c)(3) nonprofit foundation, it is required to > file detailed tax returns (990 forms) with the IRS; this will happen > very shortly. By law, nonprofit tax returns are publicly available. > > Phil Karn, KA9Q > > ARDC President & Chair > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > From bruce at perens.com Fri Sep 11 17:04:56 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:04:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:29 AM Michael Tondee via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Is it simply just going open source or is there more to it than that? Are > there other stumbling blocks that they wouldn't be comfortable with for > some reason? :-) We've sort of just had this discussion, and yes AMSAT is very uncomfortable. Running the project as clear of ITAR and EAR is a requirement if you are going to put software out under an Open Source license and all of your other technical documentation under a Creative Commons license, and we have told you how to do that but people seem to be dubious so far. This also means the project has to be free of NDAs, at least for the funded part, and if you remember from past discussion the board found it really offensive that the new directors wanted to know what AMSAT's NDAs were and were inclined to get rid of them wherever possible. Essentially, you can copy what we are doing at ORI. But now, AMSAT is going to do that. AMSAT will not go Open Source because it is the right thing to do. AMSAT will not go Open Source because it allows them to collaborate with the international AMSAT organizations, LibreSpace, and ORI. AMSAT will not go Open Source because it provides the maximum benefit to Radio Amateurs. AMSAT will not go Open Source because it allows them to dispense with the pain of ITAR and EAR compliance. NO! AMSAT will go Open Source because THEY ARE BEING OFFERED MONEY TO DO SO, and THAT is the AMERICAN WAY! :-) OK, excuse me for having some fun with you. But there is an element of truth in that. Thanks Bruce From g0kla at arrl.net Fri Sep 11 17:50:20 2020 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:50:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <38f30c90-6874-b8bc-5855-9e27bbb3bf66@ka9q.net> <1ab72ac8-4346-f36d-71b7-65b1944fcde0@ka9q.net> Message-ID: I had heard the story before, maybe from Phil at Symposium, but it is good to hear it again. I remember fondly using KA9Q NOS TCP/IP when I was at University. We used it to demo connecting to the PDP11 in the radio shack from a Sinclair Z88 using a TNC and PYE Westminster with a packet crystal. That was in front of all the incoming Electronic Eng and Comp Sci students. The whole setup fitted in a brief case. We picked up quite a few new members from that. It was great stuff. We definitely need more of that type of thing today. Thanks for guiding this money into a fund that benefits Amateur Radio and STEM. I think that is fantastic, 73 Chris On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:13 AM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Indeed this is fascinating! Thanks for sharing it, Phil. > > I wonder if there are any other non-commercial entities holding big blocks > of addresses. I suppose it would not be THAT hard to find out. (I'm > pretty sure HP via Digital holds a whole quad's worth unless they have sold > it off or split it among their various spin-offs since I worked there, but > this obviously a commercial entity). > MIT? Stanford? > > 73, Burns WB1FJ > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:48 AM Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > Phil, > > > > I appreciate your summary of all this. Apparently, I am late to the game > > on this news story, but maybe I am not the only one and hopefully others > on > > the -bb learned something from this moment in history. I know I sure > did!! > > > > Joseph Armbruster > > KJ4JIO > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:25 AM Phil Karn wrote: > > > > > On 9/11/20 03:43, Joseph Armbruster wrote: > > > > > > > > So Hank transferred the block of IPs to you, individually? Was that > > > > the kind of thing where you were all working on a campus together and > > > > it was all word-of-mouth or was it a more formal act on paper? In > > > > 2010 though, why did Brian need to ask Hank at all? I mean at that > > > > point, they were your individual property. I'm surprised whatever > > > > university you were attending did not try to stake a claim to them. > > > > Was there any paper trail regarding the ownership / transfer between > > > > the original 1980 phone call request and ARDC's inheritance? > > > > > > IP addresses were registered somewhat informally in the early days when > > > the Internet was a research project and address blocks were free, but > > > they were regularly published in various Internet documents like RFCs > > > (Requests for Comments). When the Internet grew up, more formal > entities > > > like ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers) and ICANN (Internet > > > Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), among others, were created > > > to register who owned what and to make those databases publicly > > > available. At various times, Hank, Brian and I were on all these lists > > > next to network 44, making us each at various times the legal owners. > > > > > > I haven't been a student anywhere since I graduated from CMU with my > > > MSEE in 1979. > > > > > > Since control had been passed informally between us over the years > > > according to whoever was then most willing to do the work, when IPv4 > > > addresses began to get scarce we got concerned that someone might try > to > > > grab them from us hams. So Brian proposed to create the nonprofit ARDC > > > to legally own network 44. Since Hank's name and mine had also been > > > associated with 44 at various times, Brian thought it important to make > > > sure all of us were OK with it. I for one never thought twice about it. > > > In fact, when it later dawned on us just *how* much this thing might > > > soon be worth, I was even more glad that we'd all agreed. > > > > > > For many years Brian rejected inquiries to buy or even lease part of > > > network 44, but eventually we (the ARDC board) realized that, with IPv6 > > > finally being deployed, IPv4 addresses wouldn't be in demand forever. > So > > > we authorized him to seek a buyer of the upper 1/4 that had never been > > > used. I never quite let myself believe that Brian would pull it off. > But > > > he did, and now we have a pretty good endowment to do neat things with > > > in ham radio, open source and STEM education. > > > > > > What really ticks me off, and always will, is that Brian had the vision > > > and did all the hard work yet only lived long enough to see our first > > > two grants (TAPR student scholarships and the ARISS power supply > > > project). Fate has a truly wicked sense of humor. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From zmetzing at pobox.com Fri Sep 11 23:28:12 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:28:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Message-ID: On 2020-09-11 12:04, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > OK, excuse me for having some fun with you. But there is an element of > truth in that. Bruce, I speak only for myself and on behalf of none. Irrespective of the bazillions that ARDC might be giving your organization, but I and I suspect many potential volunteers are being turned off by your incessant berating and criticizing of AMSAT (NA). I've got a fixed number of hours to volunteer, and I prefer to give those to an organization that isn't trying to undermine another. Live and let live, and "vote with your feet" as a friend used to say. ORI is not something I want to be associated with, at this point. 73, --- Zach N0ZGO From bruce at perens.com Fri Sep 11 23:52:01 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:52:01 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Message-ID: Zach, The purpose is not to berate AMSAT but to make a point - that AMSAT can meet the requirements of ARDC and potentially have money for launches from a source that is actually giving out money on that scale. But the cost for AMSAT is running the project ITAR and EAR free, and producing the software as Open Source and the design documents under creative commons. Now, most people would say "Sure, let's do that, it's worth it. As it happens, people here have just soundly rejected that plan. At this point, AMSAT needs to make the decision to run some projects in Open Source mode, or turn its back on the potential for million-dollar checks. That is the point. Thanks Bruce From karn at ka9q.net Sat Sep 12 00:30:20 2020 From: karn at ka9q.net (Phil Karn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:30:20 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Message-ID: <3f893202-7014-44a6-caad-1cfc0bc1fa9e@ka9q.net> On 9/11/20 16:52, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > But the cost for > AMSAT is running the project ITAR and EAR free, and producing the software > as Open Source and the design documents under creative commons. > > Now, most people would say "Sure, let's do that, it's worth it. As it Bruce, I hesitate to jump in here but I want to ask the others here a sincere question: Is AMSAT's hesitancy to embrace open project development due to a continuing fear of export controls, or are there other reasons? Are there ways to further resolve this fear and/or any other concerns about going open? Again, this is a completely honest question; I really don't know the answer. Having some experience myself with the export control process, I know how illogical, irrational and opaque the whole thing can be, and I fully understand how it can play with everyone's minds. So despite ORI's success in its ITAR commodity jurisdiction request I can't fault AMSAT for still being hesitant to jump in with both feet. It will probably take time for this development to be better understood by everyone and for people to become comfortable with it. i also see nothing to prevent AMSAT from filing its own CJRs for projects that it proposes to do in the open. The more favorable rulings we get, the better it will be for everyone. ARDC certainly doesn't want to fund a project only to get the principals in legal trouble. On the other hand, our policy of only funding open development projects is non-negotiable. We certainly hope that AMSAT can find a way to move forward with projects that can be developed under open terms and we are as eager to evaluate their proposals as from anyone else, and as we already have from ORI. 73, Phil From kb2ysi at gmail.com Sat Sep 12 14:11:37 2020 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:11:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT D-Star talkgroups In-Reply-To: <6f1ec9c8-8cab-835e-5e67-4afda4094bb2@amsat.org> References: <6f1ec9c8-8cab-835e-5e67-4afda4094bb2@amsat.org> Message-ID: I only have experience with the D74a, after linking to the reflector, you have to tell the radio to use the reflector. On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:28 PM Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I'm having trouble with the AMSAT D-Star reflectors. I can hear traffic > with no difficulty, but I am not heard when I transmit. Other reflectors > work fine (30C, 1C, 4B, etc). I've tried the various alternative > reflectors that are hooked together (DCS, XLX, XRF systems using > reflectors 28C, SAT, and SIN). When I transmit, the Pi-Star shows me > getting into the hotspot and it shows the reflector connected. The > gateway pages for the reflectors sometimes show me connected, sometimes > they don't. > > My hotspot is a RPi 3 running Pi-Star 4.1.2 with a DVMega board > (firmware 3.26) -- both the newest versions > I've tried accessing the hotspot with both my TH-D74A and Icom ID-51A > I use the Pi-Star interface to change reflectors > I can use the AMSAT reflectors from my Windows computer with an AMBE > stick and BlueDV > > If anyone has any insights as to why my transmissions aren't getting to > the system I'd appreciate advice. > > Keith WD9GET > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- 73, Don KB2YSI https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi From n8fgv at usa.net Sat Sep 12 03:27:42 2020 From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 23:27:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. Message-ID: <014yiLDAQ5120Set.1599881262@web12.cms.usa.net> Going Open Source is the second thing that AMSAT needs to do. The first thing is to learn how to govern the organization in an adult manner without all the petty bickering and name calling of the past couple of months, no matter which group wins the BOD election in a few days. The more I learn about the secondary launch market as it exists today, the more I must conclude that the only way that we will get a launch to HEO for a satellite large enough to serve our needs will be to buy it on the commercial launch market, and we are talking millions of dollars for that. Since we have no generous Arab royalty on this side of the pond, it did not look very hopeful that some rich benefactor would come to our aid. It still might be too big of an ask, but the days of free satellite launches as "ballast" are far behind us and we better learn to adapt to that reality. Dan Schultz N8FGV ----------------------------- Michael, W4HIJ, wrote: It appears there are resources out there if AMSAT is willing to do what's necessary to have access to them. I guess the question is what's that involve? Is it simply just going open source or is there more to it than that? Are there other stumbling blocks that they wouldn't be comfortable with for some reason? From peter at magicbug.co.uk Sat Sep 12 15:46:19 2020 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:46:19 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Message-ID: Zach, no you summed it up for myself too. Peter, 2M0SQL On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, 00:30 Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB, wrote: > On 2020-09-11 12:04, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > OK, excuse me for having some fun with you. But there is an element of > > truth in that. > > Bruce, > > I speak only for myself and on behalf of none. > > Irrespective of the bazillions that ARDC might be giving your > organization, but I and I suspect many potential volunteers are being > turned off by your incessant berating and criticizing of AMSAT (NA). > > I've got a fixed number of hours to volunteer, and I prefer to give > those to an organization that isn't trying to undermine another. Live > and let live, and "vote with your feet" as a friend used to say. > > ORI is not something I want to be associated with, at this point. > > 73, > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From db at db.net Sat Sep 12 16:15:19 2020 From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:15:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> Message-ID: <20200912161519.GA91299@night.db.net> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 04:46:19PM +0100, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Zach, > > no you summed it up for myself too. > > Peter, 2M0SQL > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, 00:30 Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB, > wrote: > > > On 2020-09-11 12:04, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > > > OK, excuse me for having some fun with you. But there is an element of > > > truth in that. > > > > Bruce, > > > > I speak only for myself and on behalf of none. > > > > Irrespective of the bazillions that ARDC might be giving your > > organization, but I and I suspect many potential volunteers are being > > turned off by your incessant berating and criticizing of AMSAT (NA). > > > > I've got a fixed number of hours to volunteer, and I prefer to give > > those to an organization that isn't trying to undermine another. Live > > and let live, and "vote with your feet" as a friend used to say. It goes both ways. All the bickering at the ORI guys is turning me off from AMSAT. I have at least one article in the journal, I helped fix one article on the older website and I've handed out AMSAT material at one hamfest but all you guys whinging and calling ORI folks names makes me not want to be associated with you folks. I think I can speak for everyone here that I am so looking forward to when all this unpleasant stuff is off of the BB. > > 73, > > > > --- Zach > > N0ZGO 73, Diane VA3DB -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From zmetzing at pobox.com Sat Sep 12 19:10:58 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:10:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ORI receives half million dollar grant, and, it's only the first. In-Reply-To: <20200912161519.GA91299@night.db.net> References: <0c04206a-e13f-a898-0f59-45435eb1b9d6@charter.net> <20200912161519.GA91299@night.db.net> Message-ID: <870739af-f585-d6ce-3d67-90e4aecb0c02@pobox.com> On 09/12/20 11:15, Diane Bruce wrote: > I think I can speak for everyone here that I am so looking forward to > when all this unpleasant stuff is off of the BB. Diane, On this, we agree completely. --- Zach N0ZGO (FreeBSD-er since sometime in the late 90's) From ke9v at mac.com Sat Sep 12 19:25:05 2020 From: ke9v at mac.com (Jeff Davis) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:25:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2G on LEO Pack Message-ID: <5A556B9B-89AE-4B4D-B392-BA367DF44C67@mac.com> Looking for links to photos of 1.2G antenna installed on the same boom as a LEO Pack. Thanks! 73 Jeff KE9V From aj9n at aol.com Sat Sep 12 20:14:23 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 20:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-12 20:00 UTC References: <1285439323.1483267.1599941663968.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1285439323.1483267.1599941663968@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-12 20:00 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Fri 2020-09-18 12:56:34 UTC 65 deg ? Watch for live stream at:? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMDcOZOF2FE&feature=youtu.be (***) ? ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools (***) ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-12 20:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-10 14:00 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1398. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1331. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From Frank at GoKarns.com Sun Sep 13 00:09:23 2020 From: Frank at GoKarns.com (Frank Karnauskas) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:09:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletin ANS-257 for September 13, 2020 Message-ID: <001001d68962$24ad8440$6e088cc0$@GoKarns.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-257 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and information service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat dot org. In this edition: * Virtual 2020 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting on October 17, 2020 * AMSAT Virtual Symposium Call for Papers * Preparations Continue for World Radiocommunication Conference 2023 * Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for September 10, 2020 * AMSAT-DL Announces Virtual Satellite Symposium September 26, 2020 * AMSAT-UK Announces Colloquium 2020 October 11, 2020 * Upcoming Satellite Operations * ARISS News * Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events * Satellite Shorts from All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-257.01 ANS-257 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 257.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. September 13, 2020 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-257.01 Virtual 2020 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting on October 17, 2020 The 2020 Virtual AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting will be held Saturday, October 17, 2020 from 9:00am CDT - 5:00pm CDT (UTC -5). Symposium presentations will be a combination of pre-recorded and live video segments along with question and answer sessions held via a Zoom meeting. The tentative schedule is: 9:00am CDT Opening Remarks 9:15am CDT - 12:45pm CDT General Presentations 1:00pm CDT - 2:00pm CDT AMSAT Education / CubeSat Simulator 2:00pm CDT - 3:00pm CDT ARISS (Amateur Radio on the International Space Station)/ AREx (Amateur Radio Exploration) 3:00pm CDT - 4:00pm CDT AMSAT Engineering 4:00pm CDT - 5:00pm CDT 2020 AMSAT Annual General Meeting The Symposium will be streamed free of charge on AMSAT's YouTube account. Registered attendees will receive a digital copy of the AMSAT Symposium Proceedings and will be entitled to join the Zoom meeting and participate in the question and answer sessions. Registered attendees will also be entered into prize drawings. Registration is free and available only for AMSAT members at https://launch.amsat.org/Events. Registration will close on Friday, October 16 at 5:00pm CDT. [ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Virtual Symposium Call for Papers Proposals for papers and Symposium presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible. Final papers for the Symposium Proceedings must be submitted by October 5, 2020 to Dan Schultz, N8FGV at n8fgv at usa.net. Symposium presentations should be limited to 15 minutes of pre-recorded video. Video presentations must be submitted by October 10, 2020 to Paul Stoetzer, N8HM at n8hm at arrl.net. We ask that presenters be available to take questions via Zoom following the airing of their pre-recorded video. [ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information.] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office is closed until further notice. For details, please visit https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Preparations Continue for World Radiocommunication Conference 2023 Preparations for World Radiocommunication Conference 2023 (WRC-23) go forward, the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) continues its efforts to protect amateur and amateur-satellite allocations. The international conference, which generally takes place every 4 years, is sponsored by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU). IARU participated in the first online meeting of Project Team A (PTA) of the WRC-23 CEPT Conference Preparatory Group (CPG), reporting this week that ?a good start was made on items of interest to the amateur and amateur-satellite services.? Agenda Item 1.12 addresses studies stemming from WRC-19 that are now underway to consider a new secondary allocation to the Earth exploration-satellite (active) service (EESS active) for spaceborne radar sounders in the 40 ? 50 MHz range, taking into account the protection of incumbent services (including in adjacent bands), which would include 6 meters. A handful of countries have also allocated secondary amateur bands in the vicinity of 40 MHz. The WRC-19 Resolution (Res. 656), which ordered the studies, noted that spaceborne-active RF sensors can provide unique information on physical properties of the Earth, and that spaceborne-active remote sensing requires specific frequency ranges depending on the physical phenomena to be observed. Spaceborne radars are intended to operate only in uninhabited or sparsely populated areas with particular focus on deserts and polar ice fields, between the hours of 3 AM and 6 AM local time. Agenda Item 1.14 addresses the Earth Exploration Satellite service (passive) (EESS passive) in the range 231.5 - 250 GHz. The Amateur and Amateur-satellite services have a primary allocation at 248???250 GHz, and a secondary allocation at 241???248 GHz. Agenda Item 9.1 will consider and approve the Report of the Director of the ITU Radiocommunication Bureau on the activities of the Radiocommunication Sector since WRC-19. This includes a review of the amateur service and the amateur-satellite service allocations in the frequency band 1.240 ? 1.300 GHz to determine if additional measures are required to ensure protection of the radionavigation- satellite (space-to-Earth) service (RNSS) operating in the same band. The 1.240 ? 1.300 GHz band is allocated worldwide to the amateur service on a secondary basis, and the amateur-satellite service (Earth-to-space) may operate in the band 1.260 ? 1.270 GHz. The primary concern is the potential for interference to the Galileo Global Navigation Satellite System (GPS) in ITU Region 1 (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa). Instances of interference to one of the RNSS channels from amateur operations have been reported. IARU has said it?s prepared to fully cooperate in any studies. The IARU participated in the initial meeting of Project Team C of the WRC-23 CEPT CPG, where the preliminary CEPT position on international studies on coexistence between the amateur service and RNSS was discussed. Agenda Item 9.1A concerns spaceweather sensors, which must be protected by regulation without placing constraints on incumbent services. ?The scope of this topic is wide and could cover HF to EHF spectrum,? IARU said. ?Until studies are progressed, it is not certain how the amateur and amateur-satellite services might be impacted.? Agenda Item 9.1C was proposed by a few countries interested in the possible use of mobile technologies in frequency bands allocated to the fixed service. ?In practice, amateur service allocations in the range 430 MHz to 250 GHz could be affected where there is a primary allocation to the fixed service and a secondary allocation to the amateur service,? IARU said, citing 2.3 GHz and 3.4 GHz as examples. Last summer, France raised a proposal to consider 144 ? 146 MHz as a primary allocation to the Aeronautical mobile service, as part of a broader consideration of spectrum allocated to that service. IARU pledged to continue ?to represent the amateur and Amateur- satellite services throughout the electromagnetic spectrum at meetings of regulatory bodies during the coming months.? [ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for September 10, 2020 As noted last week, Arianespace launched of 53 new satellites on September 3, 2020. This also placed three new satellites carrying Amateur Radio transmitters into orbit. They are Amicalsat, TTU-100 and UPMSAT 2. So far, only UPMSAT 2 has been identified as Object 46276 (See below). Based on observations this past week, Nico Janseen has refined his identification of UPMSat 2 to be Object 46276, not Object 46277 as it seemed last week. Also, OBJECT D (Cat ID 46275) and OBJECT F (Cat ID 46277) have been added this week in hope that they may be Amicalsat and TTU-100. Watch for further information. Therefore, the following satellites have been and added to this week's AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: OBJECT D - Cat ID 46275 UPMSat 2 - Cat ID 46276 OBJECT F - Cat ID 46277 Thanks to Nico Janssen, PA0DLO, for verifying Cat ID 46276 is in fact UPMSat2. The following satellite has decayed from orbit and has been removed from this week's AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: Tanusha-3 - NORAD Cat ID 43597 (Decayed on August 5, 2020 per Space-Track). [ANS thanks the Ray Hoad for the above information.] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows, and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space. https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ AMSAT-DL Announces Virtual Satellite Symposium September 26, 2020 Unfortunately, the AMSAT-DL Symposium planned for September 26-27, 2020 cannot take place this year in the usual manner. Since the health of everyone is very close to our hearts and the legal framework currently leaves no other option, AMSAT-DL has decided not to hold a meeting on site in Bochum this year. A social meeting with dinner is not possible, nor is a flea market or other activities such as the QO-100 User Meeting which happened for the first time during the HAM Radio Fair in Friedrichshafen in 2019. Instead, AMSAT-DL will broadcast the symposium as an online meeting in DATV via the broadband transponder of QO-100 and on the internet on the AMSAT-DL YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/amsatdl. Due to the international audience, most of the lectures will be held in English. The current schedule can be found on the AMSAT-DL homepage at https://amsat-dl.org. AMSAT-DL and its board invites everyone to this year's AMSAT-DL online conference and the virtual QO-100 user meeting. [ANS thanks the AMSAT-DL for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-UK Announces Colloquium 2020 October 11, 2020 There will not be an in-person AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium this year instead they will be holding an Online Event on Sunday, October 11, 2020. This is the day after the RSGB?s Radio Convention which is also an on-line event. The AMSAT-UK Convention will run from 11:00am to approximately 5:00pm, with a break for lunch and several short breaks during the day. (Times are British Summer Time, or UTC/GMT + 1.) Membership in AMSAT-UK is not required to attend and the event is free of charge. The event will be in the form of a Zoom Webinar. Register at http://tinyurl.com/amsatukreg2020 and follow the instructions which will arrive by email. No special software is installed since a browser plug in is used by Zoom. Those who are registered before the start of the Colloquium will be entered for a number of free raffles which will take place during the event. The event will be hosted by Graham Shirville, G3VZV and Jim Heck, G3WGM and formally opened by our Chairman, Martin Sweeting, G3YJO. For those registered it will be possible to pose questions to the speakers during Q and A sessions. Informal on-line discussions after the official close of the Colloquium, are also planned. The Colloquium will be live streamed to the AMSAT-UK YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/AMSATUK. Complete information is available at https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/. [ANS thanks the AMSAT-UK for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Satellite Operations CN86; 9/19 & 9/20 John Van Dalen, @N7AME hopes to access the FM satellites AO-91, and AO-92 on most passes on September 19 and 20 during the WWDXC Salmon Run. If they count, John will be at Lewis and Clark State Park (K-3221) in Washington and in Lewis County which will be Grid CN96. Check Twitter @N7AME for updates. JM08; 9/17 - 9/21 Philippe Chateau, EA4NF will be @EA6/EA4NF on Formentera Island. This counts as DXCC EA6, Grid JM08, and IOTA EU-004. Philippe will be on LEO FM & Linear birds. QSL via LoTW as EA6/EA4NF. For this new satellite portable activation, Philippe will bring with him his Yaesu FT-818ND and a FT-817ND operating in full duplex with an Alaskan Arrow Antenna. DM06, DM07, DM08, DM16, DM17 and DM18; 9/11 and 9/13 David Bartholomew, AD7DB is heading out to activate DM06, DM07, DM08, DM16, DM17 and DM18 on Friday, 9/11/20 and Sunday 9/13. Taking FM gear only. Click @AD7DB for details. [ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + Completed Contacts College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign was NA1SS. The astronaut was Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR. The contact was successful on Thursday, 9-10-2020 at 08:17:01 UTC. + Upcoming Contacts Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR. The contact is go for Friday, 9-18-2020 at 12:56:34 UTC. [ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N for the above information.] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur radio package, including two-way communication capability, to be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events + Clint Bradford K6LCS has booked his ?Work the FM Voice Satellites With Minimal Equipment? presentation for the for the following clubs: 09/14/2020 ? North Agusta Belevedere Radio Club 10/27/2020 ? Cherryland ARC / Traverse Bay ARC TBD ? Antelope Valley (CA) ARC TBD ? A private presentation for a Boy Scout troop in Danville, PA These will be Zoom presentations. Everyone is asked to update their copies of the Zoom application by directly visiting Zoom.us. [ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Shorts from All Over + UPMSAT-2 Recordings Wanted The UPMSAT-2 team would appreciate receiving recordings of their satellite. They are especially interested in recordings made from outside Spain. UPMSAT-2 transmits on 437.405 MHz using USB, not FM. Recordings can be send to contacto at amsat-ea.org [ANS thanks Felix Paez EA4GQS for the above information.] + Route 66 On-the-Air from W6D Christy Hunter, KB6LTY is happy to report that the COVID-19 pandemic is not keeping the 2020 Route 66 On-the Air event off the air. This year the event starts September 12 and goes through September 20. Christy will be representing W6D on the FM and SSB birds from her home not far from Route 66 in DM14. Only paper QSL cards will be issued for W6D contacts(no LoTW). Look for W6D on QRZ.com for her mailing address. Complete information on the event can be found at http://w6jbt.org/. [ANS thanks Christy Hunter, KB6LTY for the above information.] + Reminder: Annual GNU Radio Conference Begins September 14, 2020 GRCon20 will be held starting September 14, 2020 online as a virtual event. Keynote speakers include: Becky Schoenfeld W1BXY, Managing Editor of QST magazine, Oona R?is?nen [windytan] hacker of signals and computer programmer, and Jim St. Leger, Director Open Source, Intel. Full registrations are sold out but free registration for all virtual GRCon20 technical talks, keynotes, and lightning talks is still available at https://tickets.gnuradio.org/grcon20/. [ANS thanks GNU Radio for the above information.] + NASA, NOAA to Discuss Solar Cycle Prediction NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) will discuss predictions for the upcoming solar cycle during a media teleconference at 1 p.m. EDT Tuesday, Sept. 15. Tracking the solar cycle is a key part of better understanding the Sun and mitigating its impacts on human technology and infrastructure. During the teleconference, experts on the Solar Cycle 25 Prediction Panel will discuss recent updates in solar cycle progress, and the forecast for the upcoming cycle, Solar Cycle 25. Complete information and registration information can be found at https://tinyurl.com/ANS-257-NASA-Live. [ANS thanks NASA Radio for the above information.] + AT&T Seeking Buyers For DirecTV Well-heeled Amateurs wanting a geosynchronous ham radio satellite of their own now have their chance. AT&T purchased DirecTV in 2015 and paid some $67 billion overall. With declining viewership and increased competition, ATT&T wants to unload the company and decrease its debt load. Most observers suggest the price might be a flea-market bargain at about $20 billion. The catch? ATT&T would retain 50% ownership. [ANS thanks Satnews for the above information.] -------------------------------------------------------------------- In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive additional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the student rate for a maximum of six post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Frank Karnauskas, N1UW n1uw at amsat dot org Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ke9v at mac.com Sun Sep 13 01:26:23 2020 From: ke9v at mac.com (Jeff Davis) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:26:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2G on LEO Pack In-Reply-To: <5A556B9B-89AE-4B4D-B392-BA367DF44C67@mac.com> References: <5A556B9B-89AE-4B4D-B392-BA367DF44C67@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks all for the pointers, got what I needed. 73 Jeff KE9V > On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Looking for links to photos of 1.2G antenna installed on the same boom as a LEO Pack. From badencapecod at gmail.com Sun Sep 13 10:38:37 2020 From: badencapecod at gmail.com (Wes Baden) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:38:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW Message-ID: Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least as it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At least on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the two most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed mode at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult? Should SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of satellites) or LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being confirmed. Ugh. Wes NA1ME From badencapecod at gmail.com Sun Sep 13 10:54:44 2020 From: badencapecod at gmail.com (Wes Baden) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:54:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed Message-ID: Way too early in the morning and without coffee when I sent that post about changes in LOTW. It's PHONE they removed, which used to appear immediately after CW in the first two Mode field options. For linear SAT users, the previous PHONE choice is now replaced by LSB, SSB and USB. Pick one now and hope the operator you've contacted picks the same one, for a match. Or should the new standard, for us, simply be SSB? Wes NA1ME From kb1hy2 at comcast.net Sun Sep 13 11:02:33 2020 From: kb1hy2 at comcast.net (Peter Budnik) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:02:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: SSB is always my choice Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?Way too early in the morning and without coffee when I sent that post about > changes in LOTW. It's PHONE they removed, which used to appear immediately > after CW in the first two Mode field options. For linear SAT users, the > previous PHONE choice is now replaced by LSB, SSB and USB. Pick one now > and hope the operator you've contacted picks the same one, for a match. Or > should the new standard, for us, simply be SSB? > > Wes NA1ME > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kontakt at sp3qfe.net Sun Sep 13 12:12:00 2020 From: kontakt at sp3qfe.net (Armand SP3QFE) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:12:00 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater In-Reply-To: <3ECEF12A-BD49-41A3-B926-10E9EBA60DF9@gmail.com> References: <874500120.2667742.1599318854872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <874500120.2667742.1599318854872@mail.yahoo.com> <3ECEF12A-BD49-41A3-B926-10E9EBA60DF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3126cf745666e1cf1613d3c63f8153fc@sp3qfe.net> Tnank you David and Dave, W dniu 2020-09-09 16:38, Dave Taylor napisa?(a): > It is FM, Armand. > > Dave, W8AAS > >> On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Armand SP3QFE via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Is it FM or NarrowFM? >> >> Thank you. >> >> 73, Armand SP3QFE >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Sun Sep 13 13:35:21 2020 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:35:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It doesn?t matter as long as they are of the same mode group you?ll get a match. There are only 4 mode groups, CW, Data, Image and Phone. You could put AM on AO-91 and you?ll get a match. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID/VE6LID > On Sep 13, 2020, at 06:57, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?Way too early in the morning and without coffee when I sent that post about > changes in LOTW. It's PHONE they removed, which used to appear immediately > after CW in the first two Mode field options. For linear SAT users, the > previous PHONE choice is now replaced by LSB, SSB and USB. Pick one now > and hope the operator you've contacted picks the same one, for a match. Or > should the new standard, for us, simply be SSB? > > Wes NA1ME > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From on4cjq at telenet.be Sun Sep 13 18:25:56 2020 From: on4cjq at telenet.be (on4cjq at telenet.be) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 20:25:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Hello Wes, a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc. when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to use good logging software. I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw... Best 73's Jerry ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "amsat-bb" Aan: "amsat-bb" Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37 Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least as it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At least on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the two most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed mode at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult? Should SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of satellites) or LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being confirmed. Ugh. Wes NA1ME _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Sun Sep 13 19:32:51 2020 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL)) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 19:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW In-Reply-To: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1234872482.1783346.1600025571134@mail.yahoo.com> Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al: Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves. For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL. For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8, PSK31 and RTTY. For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids. For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it comes to Voice type modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there NO entries for USB or LSB, just SSB. In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs of USB, LSB and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest list ever known to mankind. So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes it's PHONE and sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB). GEEEEESH!!!! TNX/73,? ? ? Bob? K8BL On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB wrote: Hello Wes, a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc. when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to use good logging software. I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...? Best 73's Jerry ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "amsat-bb" Aan: "amsat-bb" Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37 Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least as it involves SAT contacts?? Can we get ARRL to undo some things?? At least on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry fields one after another.? It's a much slower process now.? Also, the two most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. This also slows down entries.? Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed mode at all.? It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB.? I could be wrong, but isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult?? Should SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of satellites) or LSB (our input to them)?? In sum, the whole process is now slower with multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being confirmed.? Ugh. Wes NA1ME _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Sun Sep 13 23:19:56 2020 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:19:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW In-Reply-To: <1234872482.1783346.1600025571134@mail.yahoo.com> References: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> <1234872482.1783346.1600025571134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions from HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB" wrote: >Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al: > >Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves. > >For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL. > >For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8, >PSK31 >and RTTY. > >For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids. > >For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it >comes to Voice type >modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there >NO >entries for USB or LSB, just SSB. > >In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs >of USB, LSB >and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest >list ever known >to mankind. > >So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes >it's PHONE and >sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB). >GEEEEESH!!!! > >TNX/73,? ? ? Bob? K8BL > > > > > > > >On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > >Hello Wes, > >a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the >correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc. >when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because >people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of >them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to >use good logging software. >I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...? > >Best 73's >Jerry >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >Van: "amsat-bb" >Aan: "amsat-bb" >Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37 >Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW > >Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least >as >it involves SAT contacts?? Can we get ARRL to undo some things?? At >least >on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry >fields one after another.? It's a much slower process now.? Also, the >two >most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no >longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. >This also slows down entries.? Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed >mode >at all.? It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB.? I could be wrong, but >isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult?? >Should >SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of >satellites) or >LSB (our input to them)?? In sum, the whole process is now slower with >multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being >confirmed.? Ugh. > >Wes NA1ME >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2ysi at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 13:19:05 2020 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:19:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW In-Reply-To: References: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> <1234872482.1783346.1600025571134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I suggest you join the ARRL-LoTW at groups.io to see what is going on. Rich Murphy (I think I have the name correct), the author of TSQL, is very active on there. Make sure you SEARCH before posting. People who are volunteering to make software, services, etc... should be treated as humans. Sad that it needs to be said. TSQL ! = LoTW I have had no issues with the new version of TSQL logging satellite contacts. FM & SSB are still accepted/available. On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 19:23 W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions > from HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams. > > ?___ > Sent from my two way wrist watch > 73 de W3AB/GEO? > > On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB" < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al: > > > >Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves. > > > >For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL. > > > >For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8, > >PSK31 > >and RTTY. > > > >For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids. > > > >For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it > >comes to Voice type > >modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there > >NO > >entries for USB or LSB, just SSB. > > > >In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs > >of USB, LSB > >and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest > >list ever known > >to mankind. > > > >So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes > >it's PHONE and > >sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB). > >GEEEEESH!!!! > > > >TNX/73, Bob K8BL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Wes, > > > >a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the > >correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc. > >when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because > >people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of > >them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to > >use good logging software. > >I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw... > > > >Best 73's > >Jerry > >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > >Van: "amsat-bb" > >Aan: "amsat-bb" > >Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37 > >Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW > > > >Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least > >as > >it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At > >least > >on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry > >fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the > >two > >most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no > >longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. > >This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed > >mode > >at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but > >isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult? > >Should > >SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of > >satellites) or > >LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with > >multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being > >confirmed. Ugh. > > > >Wes NA1ME > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >of AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >program! > >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >of AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >program! > >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >of AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >program! > >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb2ysi at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 13:20:25 2020 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:20:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW In-Reply-To: References: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> <1234872482.1783346.1600025571134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ARRL-LoTW at groups.arrl.org is another place to get information /in touch with Rick about TSQL. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 09:19 Don KB2YSI wrote: > I suggest you join the ARRL-LoTW at groups.io to see what is going on. Rich > Murphy (I think I have the name correct), the author of TSQL, is very > active on there. Make sure you SEARCH before posting. > > People who are volunteering to make software, services, etc... should be > treated as humans. Sad that it needs to be said. > > TSQL ! = LoTW > > I have had no issues with the new version of TSQL logging satellite > contacts. FM & SSB are still accepted/available. > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 19:23 W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions >> from HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams. >> >> ?___ >> Sent from my two way wrist watch >> 73 de W3AB/GEO? >> >> On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB" < >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: >> >Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al: >> > >> >Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves. >> > >> >For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL. >> > >> >For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8, >> >PSK31 >> >and RTTY. >> > >> >For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids. >> > >> >For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it >> >comes to Voice type >> >modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there >> >NO >> >entries for USB or LSB, just SSB. >> > >> >In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs >> >of USB, LSB >> >and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest >> >list ever known >> >to mankind. >> > >> >So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes >> >it's PHONE and >> >sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB). >> >GEEEEESH!!!! >> > >> >TNX/73, Bob K8BL >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hello Wes, >> > >> >a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the >> >correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc. >> >when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because >> >people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of >> >them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to >> >use good logging software. >> >I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw... >> > >> >Best 73's >> >Jerry >> >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >> >Van: "amsat-bb" >> >Aan: "amsat-bb" >> >Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37 >> >Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW >> > >> >Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least >> >as >> >it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At >> >least >> >on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry >> >fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the >> >two >> >most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no >> >longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. >> >This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed >> >mode >> >at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but >> >isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult? >> >Should >> >SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of >> >satellites) or >> >LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with >> >multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being >> >confirmed. Ugh. >> > >> >Wes NA1ME >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >Opinions expressed >> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> >of AMSAT-NA. >> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >program! >> >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >Opinions expressed >> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> >of AMSAT-NA. >> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >program! >> >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >Opinions expressed >> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> >of AMSAT-NA. >> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >program! >> >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From badencapecod at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 14:11:36 2020 From: badencapecod at gmail.com (Wes Baden) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:11:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New LOTW ADIF File Generator Message-ID: I didn't mean for my original post to kick up any dust. In hindsight, it was a classic "Who Moved My Cheese?" moment. Train a mouse to move through a maze to find cheese, then move the position of the cheese, and the mouse will become disoriented and panic at first. In my case, I should have played with the new system for a while before posting. Many thanks to those who passed on information about navigating the ADIF file generator now. Using TAB rather than ENTER, as I did previously, gets me down from one entry line to another (ENTER no longer does, at least on my PC). Also, the elimination of "Phone," replaced by a number of voice modes, really does make a lot of sense. I miss what are probably the most common linear satellite modes, CW and now SSB, being at the top of the Mode list, but as someone pointed out, they are findable fairly quickly by typing in "C" or "S" first. I have no trouble using LOTW at this point (I really need to get a logging program, though!), and my CW and SSB contacts are matching on LOTW just as they should be. I appreciate the coders' ongoing efforts to tweak LOTW and made it better over time. In the future, I just need to remember not to panic when the cheese gets moved once again. 73, Wes NA1ME From kb2ysi at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 14:37:39 2020 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:37:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New LOTW ADIF File Generator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You should see the dumb logging solution that I am using.... I too need to get back to using a logging program. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 10:15 Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I didn't mean for my original post to kick up any dust. In hindsight, it > was a classic "Who Moved My Cheese?" moment. Train a mouse to move through > a maze to find cheese, then move the position of the cheese, and the mouse > will become disoriented and panic at first. In my case, I should have > played with the new system for a while before posting. Many thanks to > those who passed on information about navigating the ADIF file generator > now. Using TAB rather than ENTER, as I did previously, gets me down from > one entry line to another (ENTER no longer does, at least on my PC). Also, > the elimination of "Phone," replaced by a number of voice modes, really > does make a lot of sense. I miss what are probably the most common linear > satellite modes, CW and now SSB, being at the top of the Mode list, but as > someone pointed out, they are findable fairly quickly by typing in "C" or > "S" first. I have no trouble using LOTW at this point (I really need to > get a logging program, though!), and my CW and SSB contacts are matching on > LOTW just as they should be. I appreciate the coders' ongoing efforts to > tweak LOTW and made it better over time. In the future, I just need to > remember not to panic when the cheese gets moved once again. > > 73, Wes NA1ME > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Sep 14 15:05:16 2020 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL)) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW In-Reply-To: References: <820964517.162148772.1600021556367.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> <1234872482.1783346.1600025571134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1070084991.2071052.1600095916071@mail.yahoo.com> Don, My point is that there are several differences across the application with the terminology of the same Mode. It can be confusing to members that are not frequent users. It should be OK to mention something that is factually true. I have no problem using LoTW and appreciate the efforts that the League and its volunteers put forth for our benefit. It would be wonderful if more Hams would make use of it for confirmations. Of the 250,000 Q's I have in there, there are only about 1/3 that have been confirmed. TNX/73/GL,? ? ? ? ?Bob? K8BL On Monday, September 14, 2020, 09:19:23 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI wrote: I suggest you join the ARRL-LoTW at groups.io to see what is going on. Rich Murphy (I think I have the name correct), the author of TSQL, is very active on there. Make sure you SEARCH before posting. People who are volunteering to make software, services, etc... should be treated as humans. Sad that it needs to be said.? TSQL ! = LoTW I have had no issues with the new version of TSQL logging satellite contacts. FM & SSB are still accepted/available.? On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 19:23 W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions from HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams. > > ?___ > Sent from my two way wrist watch > 73 de W3AB/GEO? > > On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB" wrote: >>Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al: >> >>Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves. >> >>For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL. >> >>For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8, >>PSK31 >>and RTTY. >> >>For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids. >> >>For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it >>comes to Voice type >>modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there >>NO >>entries for USB or LSB, just SSB. >> >>In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs >>of USB, LSB >>and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest >>list ever known >>to mankind. >> >>So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes >>it's PHONE and >>sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB). >>GEEEEESH!!!! >> >>TNX/73,? ? ? Bob? K8BL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>Hello Wes, >> >>a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the >>correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc. >>when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because >>people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of >>them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to >>use good logging software. >>I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...? >> >>Best 73's >>Jerry >>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >>Van: "amsat-bb" >>Aan: "amsat-bb" >>Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37 >>Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW >> >>Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least >>as >>it involves SAT contacts?? Can we get ARRL to undo some things?? At >>least >>on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry >>fields one after another.? It's a much slower process now.? Also, the >>two >>most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no >>longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized. >>This also slows down entries.? Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed >>mode >>at all.? It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB.? I could be wrong, but >>isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult?? >>Should >>SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of >>satellites) or >>LSB (our input to them)?? In sum, the whole process is now slower with >>multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being >>confirmed.? Ugh. >> >>Wes NA1ME >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>of AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From fgeraci14 at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 16:08:40 2020 From: fgeraci14 at gmail.com (Francis Geraci) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:08:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon donations Message-ID: I just got an Email from AmazonSmile. $5,660.00 was donated to Amsat. All you Amazon buyers, use "Amazonsmile" when buying, and donate to Amsat. IMHO W1FXX From kk5do at amsat.org Mon Sep 14 16:15:34 2020 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 11:15:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you use the app, you can set it up for smile. If you use a web browser be sure to always goto smile.amazon.com 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Francis Geraci via AMSAT-BB wrote: ?I just got an Email from AmazonSmile. $5,660.00 was donated to Amsat. All you Amazon buyers, use "Amazonsmile" when buying, and donate to Amsat. IMHO W1FXX _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at k6ccc.org Mon Sep 14 16:49:17 2020 From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1600102157.486311771@apps.rackspace.com> Bruce said: > If you use the app, you can set it up for smile. If you use a web browser be sure to always goto smile.amazon.com I normally use a browser, but I do have the Amazon app on my phone. Note that it is rather hidden on the app. On the app, press the three horizontal bars in the upper left corner for the main menu. Then under "Programs and Features", select "See All Programs". Then scroll down to "AmazonSmile" (not in alphabetical order). 73 ----- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org From royldean at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 20:55:12 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:55:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Message-ID: I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent permanently)? --Roy K3RLD From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc Mon Sep 14 21:21:10 2020 From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:21:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's been in Facebook and on Twitter. Maybe I said something here a few days ago. In any case, its battery is having trouble keeping it running through eclipses. It then goes into auto-safe mode. There is apparently a bug in the software that I wrote for the Foxes so that under some circumstances it "forgets" that it went into safe automatically and stays in safe mode even when the voltage comes back up after it enters the sun. In that case we have to wait for a command station to re-enable it. This is not too tenable over the long run, so I'm not sure what the ops people plan to do. It would be nice if the batteries failed open so it worked reliably in sun like AO-7. Unfortunately, that did NOT happen with AO-85. We'll see with 92. 73, Burns WB1FJ AMSAT Flight Software On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:57 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it > commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent > permanently)? > > --Roy > K3RLD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scottk5ta at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 21:23:41 2020 From: scottk5ta at gmail.com (Scott Davis) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:23:41 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Route 66 On The Air Message-ID: <0D401AF1-0012-4F31-B5BC-D43D4FAB57B4@gmail.com> I will be on the air as W6H occasionally until this Sunday, 20-Sep, as New Mexico?s satellite representative in the "Route 66 On The Air" special event. For general info visit http://w6jbt.org/?page_id=19 . QSL via K8TE. Our coordinator is working on getting a certificate for LoTW, but it's not up yet. Besides, the paper cards are nice-looking. Christy, KB6LTY, is also on sats as W6D from San Bernardino County -- you remember the old song "...Kingman, Barstow, San Bernardino!" We worked each other this afternoon on PO-101. -Scott K5TA DM65 Albuquerque. From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Sep 14 22:12:11 2020 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 18:12:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. So, we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where we stand. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent permanently)? --Roy K3RLD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From chibill110 at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 22:30:36 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:30:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> References: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Just wondering why AO-92 is failing so much quicker than AO-85. AO-85 lasted about 4 years in space till it went silent / started having battery issues. AO-92 has only been in space for about 2 and 3/4 years. AO-91 seems to be doing okay. Or at least I haven't seen anyone talking about it going into safemode. And I haven't heard it in safemode. 73 William KD9KCK On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:14 PM Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. > > AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it > goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU > resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been > commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, > but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the > transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. > > Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on > ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station > availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will > kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. > So, > we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where > we > stand. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > AMSAT VP Operations > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via > AMSAT-BB > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 > > I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it > commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent > permanently)? > > --Roy > K3RLD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kg4zlb at icloud.com Mon Sep 14 22:39:33 2020 From: kg4zlb at icloud.com (David Worboys) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 18:39:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> References: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Drew, would it be possible that if you are able command it back on an ad-hoc basis it could be commanded into L/V mode for those sessions? There are plenty of U/V opportunities up there for anyone already. Thanks David KG4ZLB On Sep 14, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote: I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. So, we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where we stand. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent permanently)? --Roy K3RLD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Sep 14 23:07:31 2020 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:07:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <02f101d68aeb$d3147810$793d6830$@mindspring.com> A few factors probably involved: AO-85 saw less use due to being a little harder to access. It was also in a higher orbit, that wasn?t sun-synchronous with a near 12 o?clock LTAN, so it saw more sunlight. 73, Drew KO4MA From: Bill Gaylord Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 6:31 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: Roy Dean ; AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Just wondering why AO-92 is failing so much quicker than AO-85. AO-85 lasted about 4 years in space till it went silent / started having battery issues. AO-92 has only been in space for about 2 and 3/4 years. AO-91 seems to be doing okay. Or at least I haven't seen anyone talking about it going into safemode. And I haven't heard it in safemode. 73 William KD9KCK On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:14 PM Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB > wrote: I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. So, we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where we stand. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB > On Behalf Of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent permanently)? --Roy K3RLD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . 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Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Sep 14 23:08:28 2020 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:08:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <02f601d68aeb$f569fd40$e03df7c0$@mindspring.com> Certainly to be considered... 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: David Worboys Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 6:40 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Drew, would it be possible that if you are able command it back on an ad-hoc basis it could be commanded into L/V mode for those sessions? There are plenty of U/V opportunities up there for anyone already. Thanks David KG4ZLB On Sep 14, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote: I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. So, we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where we stand. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent permanently)? --Roy K3RLD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marinesvcs at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 23:35:57 2020 From: marinesvcs at gmail.com (Paul F. Merrill) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:35:57 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Pac-Comm PSK-1 Packer Controller In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Any interest from anyone here before I put this out to the larger World? TNX, Paul / W7IV From chibill110 at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 23:45:35 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 18:45:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: <02f101d68aeb$d3147810$793d6830$@mindspring.com> References: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> <02f101d68aeb$d3147810$793d6830$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Didnt AO-85 cells fail due to over heating? Maybe the cell dying on AO-92 was just weaker then the others. Or maybe the L/U mode strained them more? As that was a key difference between AO-85 and AO-92. Does AO-91 have L/U i dont recall if it did. KD9kCK On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 6:07 PM Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > A few factors probably involved: > > AO-85 saw less use due to being a little harder to access. It was also in > a higher orbit, that wasn?t sun-synchronous with a near 12 o?clock LTAN, so > it saw more sunlight. > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > *From:* Bill Gaylord > *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2020 6:31 PM > *To:* Andrew Glasbrenner > *Cc:* Roy Dean ; AMSAT BB > *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 > > > > Just wondering why AO-92 is failing so much quicker than AO-85. AO-85 > lasted about 4 years in space till it went silent / started having battery > issues. AO-92 has only been in space for about 2 and 3/4 years. > > > > > > > > AO-91 seems to be doing okay. Or at least I haven't seen anyone talking > about it going into safemode. And I haven't heard it in safemode. > > > > 73 > > William KD9KCK > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:14 PM Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. > > AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it > goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU > resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been > commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, > but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the > transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. > > Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on > ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station > availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will > kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. > So, > we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where > we > stand. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > AMSAT VP Operations > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via > AMSAT-BB > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 > > I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it > commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent > permanently)? > > --Roy > K3RLD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From kb2mjeff at att.net Tue Sep 15 00:09:33 2020 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:09:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 References: <000301d68af4$7e092470$7a1b6d50$.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <000301d68af4$7e092470$7a1b6d50$@att.net> I second this. L/V mode would certainly beat the batteries up much less due to the lighter traffic load. I agree with Dave, there are plenty of U/V passes... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 7:08 PM To: 'David Worboys' Cc: 'AMSAT BB' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Certainly to be considered... 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: David Worboys Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 6:40 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Drew, would it be possible that if you are able command it back on an ad-hoc basis it could be commanded into L/V mode for those sessions? There are plenty of U/V opportunities up there for anyone already. Thanks David KG4ZLB On Sep 14, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote: I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded the transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater on ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 will kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. So, we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where we stand. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Sep 15 16:21:38 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release No. 20-16 References: <570020032.2415637.1600186898416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <570020032.2415637.1600186898416@mail.yahoo.com> ? ? 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The primary goal of ARISS is to promoteexploration of science, technology, engineering, the arts, and mathematicstopics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew membersaboard the ISS and students. Before and during these radio contacts, students,educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, andamateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org ? MediaContact: DaveJordan, AA4KN ARISSPR ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Likeus on Facebook. Follow us on Twitter. Search on Amateur Radio on the ISS and at ARISS_status. ? ? ? ? From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 17:29:28 2020 From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan N0AN) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:29:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] JO-97 TLM Uploads? Message-ID: My count hasn't changed in at least several days on the uk-site. Am I doing something wrong? I haven't knowingly changed any settings in the dashboard.. The dashboard is decoding and says it's uploading, but the count at http://data.amsat-uk.org/ranking Isn't changing for my callsign. Ideas? Maybe I missed something in a message on the list. Been very busy. AO-73 and EO-88 are showing up fine for my uploads. 73, N0AN Hasan From g0kla at arrl.net Tue Sep 15 18:09:48 2020 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 14:09:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <02de01d68ae4$189087b0$49b19710$@mindspring.com> <02f101d68aeb$d3147810$793d6830$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Bill, It's true that we think AO-85's battery was damaged due to overheating, but it is just a theory based on the telemetry that was downlinked. Now that we have two cases where the batteries have failed we might be able to see a different pattern. With that said AO-85 had a linear power supply and AO-92 had an MPPT, so the hardware is not identical as I remember. I think AO-91 and AO-92 are almost exactly the same except for experiments onboard. If it's something you (or others) want to research then you can pull down the telemetry with FoxTelem or I can supply you with an extract and explanations. All of the schematics are available in the symposium proceedings from previous years. 73 Chris On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 7:48 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Didnt AO-85 cells fail due to over heating? Maybe the cell dying on AO-92 > was just weaker then the others. > > Or maybe the L/U mode strained them more? As that was a key difference > between AO-85 and AO-92. Does AO-91 have L/U i dont recall if it did. > > KD9kCK > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 6:07 PM Andrew Glasbrenner < > glasbrenner at mindspring.com> > wrote: > > > A few factors probably involved: > > > > AO-85 saw less use due to being a little harder to access. It was also in > > a higher orbit, that wasn?t sun-synchronous with a near 12 o?clock LTAN, > so > > it saw more sunlight. > > > > > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > > > > > *From:* Bill Gaylord > > *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2020 6:31 PM > > *To:* Andrew Glasbrenner > > *Cc:* Roy Dean ; AMSAT BB > > *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 > > > > > > > > Just wondering why AO-92 is failing so much quicker than AO-85. AO-85 > > lasted about 4 years in space till it went silent / started having > battery > > issues. AO-92 has only been in space for about 2 and 3/4 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AO-91 seems to be doing okay. Or at least I haven't seen anyone talking > > about it going into safemode. And I haven't heard it in safemode. > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > William KD9KCK > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:14 PM Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > > I've mostly been posting about it on Twitter. > > > > AO-92 has a cell that's failing, and towards the end of many eclipses it > > goes into auto-safe mode at 3.6v. If the battery drops low enough the IHU > > resets, and it comes back up in normal safe mode. Mark and I have been > > commanding to repeater mode on the first available pass after the resets, > > but it's not a long term sustainable answer. Last night Mark commanded > the > > transmitter completely off while we consider a plan of action. > > > > Leaving autosafe on and the tx off, we may be able to turn the repeater > on > > ad-hoc for weekends or such, completely dependent on command station > > availability. Turning autosafe and the IHU off like we did with AO-85 > will > > kill the satellite pretty quickly, so that's not a good response either. > > So, > > we'll look at resets and battery states before this weekend and see where > > we > > stand. > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT VP Operations > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via > > AMSAT-BB > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:55 PM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 > > > > I can find no information about AO-92 going silent recently. Was it > > commanded into a silent state (as AO-85 was shortly before it went silent > > permanently)? > > > > --Roy > > K3RLD > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > > all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From sv1ljj at raag.org Wed Sep 16 06:12:55 2020 From: sv1ljj at raag.org (Apostolos Kefalas) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:12:55 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] JO-97 TLM Uploads? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98a0290e86c54ea9cb6c399c5013b2330bf56200.camel@raag.org> Same problem here. Although I am uploading telemetry packets, realtime data do not change! Apostolos SV1LJJ On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 12:29 -0500, Hasan N0AN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > My count hasn't changed in at least several days on the uk-site. Am I > doing > something wrong? I haven't knowingly changed any settings in the > dashboard.. > > The dashboard is decoding and says it's uploading, but the count at > > http://data.amsat-uk.org/ranking > > Isn't changing for my callsign. > > Ideas? Maybe I missed something in a message on the list. Been very > busy. > > AO-73 and EO-88 are showing up fine for my uploads. > 73, N0AN > Hasan > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com Wed Sep 16 08:54:59 2020 From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan N0AN) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 03:54:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] JO-97 TLM Uploads? In-Reply-To: <98a0290e86c54ea9cb6c399c5013b2330bf56200.camel@raag.org> References: <98a0290e86c54ea9cb6c399c5013b2330bf56200.camel@raag.org> Message-ID: Apostolos, It started working late yesterday afternoon, and it is still working at 4:00 a.m. this morning. Prior to that the data was at least a week old. 73, N0AN Hasan On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:12 AM Apostolos Kefalas wrote: > Same problem here. > > Although I am uploading telemetry packets, realtime data do not change! > > > Apostolos > SV1LJJ > > On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 12:29 -0500, Hasan N0AN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > My count hasn't changed in at least several days on the uk-site. Am I > > doing > > something wrong? I haven't knowingly changed any settings in the > > dashboard.. > > > > The dashboard is decoding and says it's uploading, but the count at > > > > http://data.amsat-uk.org/ranking > > > > Isn't changing for my callsign. > > > > Ideas? Maybe I missed something in a message on the list. Been very > > busy. > > > > AO-73 and EO-88 are showing up fine for my uploads. > > 73, N0AN > > Hasan > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > > of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > Subscription settings: > > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > From briaandy at gmail.com Wed Sep 16 09:11:16 2020 From: briaandy at gmail.com (Andy Brian) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:11:16 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro Rotary motor Message-ID: Hi, Anyone have the good information where to buy or find the substitute for azimuth rotary KR-5600? thanks for any information BR Andy From pgprendergast at yahoo.com Wed Sep 16 10:46:53 2020 From: pgprendergast at yahoo.com (Pgprendergast) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 06:46:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election References: Message-ID: Are the results out yet? Peter Sent from my iPhone From kk5do at arrl.net Wed Sep 16 11:23:47 2020 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 06:23:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e2ee522-4247-f345-04cb-30e26d175c3a@arrl.net> Ballots had to be in yesterday, 9/15/20. They are going to be counted today. After the Secretary counts the ballots and verifies the results he will then make notifications. It is a one person army doing the work. Be patient. 73...bruce On 9/16/2020 5:46 AM, Pgprendergast via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Are the results out yet? > Peter > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From w9gb at icloud.com Wed Sep 16 13:44:59 2020 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:44:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro Rotary motor Message-ID: <35646926-E797-4FBE-BCC1-CC7FD09BB02F@icloud.com> Andy - As you know Yaesu bought out the Kenpro rotator product line. ? At one time, Peter G3IBI had spare parts for Kenpro. Contact him. http://www.g3ibi.co.uk/spares == On March 11, 2011 the T?hoku earthquake and tsunami moved the main island of Japan Honshu 2.4 meters (8 feet) to the East. The Fukushima and Miyagi prefectures received significant damage and some areas totally destroyed. This was a significant disruption, and changed the Asian electronics supplier channel. Many small electronics suppliers/subcontractors were in this Japanese region. This resulted in parts and assembly shortages for many industries (automobile, appliance, amateur radio). Eventually Japanese mfg. pivoted to other Asian suppliers. == In March 2012, the Yaesu/Kenpro azimuth motor failed on the G-5500 Az-El rotator system owned by David Palmer, KB5WIA. He contacted Yaesu USA Parts, but they formed him that they had no replacement AZ motors (at the time ? 2011 T?hoku). ? Here are the steps and photos that KB5WIA took to DIY Disassemble and Rewind that Azimuth motor. http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/yaesu-g5500-rotator-motor-repair.html Repair notes by Ivo Klinkert, PA1IVO https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/G-5500.html Yaesu/Kenpro Rotator Repair Notes compiled from AMSAT Archives http://www.ocrg.org/W7KKE/rotor/rotor_help.html greg w9gb === Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:11:16 +0200 From: Andy Brian To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro Rotary motor Hi, Anyone have the good information where to buy or find the substitute for azimuth rotary KR-5600? thanks for any information BR Andy From kk5do at arrl.net Wed Sep 16 16:16:50 2020 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:16:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Your AmazonSmile charity received a $433.52 donation References: <0100017497aea5df-199644fb-b88e-48e7-9b2f-26de046a2010-000000@email.amazonses.com> Message-ID: Not sure if everyone that purchases through Amazon Smile gets these messages or only me for setting it up. 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Thanks for supporting Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation and continuing to generate donations by shopping at smile.amazon.com or with AmazonSmile ON in the app. Go to smile.amazon.com: https://smile.amazon.com Want to use AmazonSmile in the Amazon Shopping app on your phone? See how to activate <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/b?node=15576745011&ref=smi_em_db20_exaC_ftl_mob_mkt">here</a>.<br><br><i>*Message reflects the charity you were supporting as of August 27.</i> ====================================== ? 2020 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Amazon, Amazon.com, the Amazon.com logo, Prime, and 1-Click are registered trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. Amazon.com, 410 Terry Avenue N., Seattle, WA 98109-5210. Reference: 525128080 From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Wed Sep 16 16:27:15 2020 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:27:15 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] JO-97 TLM Uploads? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C52873C-5BAD-48EA-8898-47799090E4BF@g4dpz.me.uk> There was a packet with a large sequence number in it. Which caused one of the upload traps to activate. I have been on holiday and released the trap last night. Uploads are working again and I will be updating the scores this evening. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Sep 2020, at 09:59, Hasan N0AN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?Apostolos, > > It started working late yesterday afternoon, and it is still working at > 4:00 a.m. this morning. Prior to that the data was at least a week old. > > 73, N0AN > Hasan > > >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:12 AM Apostolos Kefalas wrote: >> >> Same problem here. >> >> Although I am uploading telemetry packets, realtime data do not change! >> >> >> Apostolos >> SV1LJJ >> >>> On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 12:29 -0500, Hasan N0AN via AMSAT-BB wrote: >>> My count hasn't changed in at least several days on the uk-site. Am I >>> doing >>> something wrong? I haven't knowingly changed any settings in the >>> dashboard.. >>> >>> The dashboard is decoding and says it's uploading, but the count at >>> >>> http://data.amsat-uk.org/ranking >>> >>> Isn't changing for my callsign. >>> >>> Ideas? Maybe I missed something in a message on the list. Been very >>> busy. >>> >>> AO-73 and EO-88 are showing up fine for my uploads. >>> 73, N0AN >>> Hasan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: >>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rhyolite at leikhim.com Wed Sep 16 17:17:29 2020 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:17:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? Message-ID: I just got three strange messages , one with an attachment,? from sender:? AMSAT-BB The subject line was something I started last month. The word "virus" appended to subject line on two of these by AVG. -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From jbarbre at xmission.com Wed Sep 16 17:58:59 2020 From: jbarbre at xmission.com (Jim Barbre) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:58:59 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese HF satellite Message-ID: <7d632bd8-d3ad-7a4b-9cd1-c4e1f9c50436@xmission.com> Did the Chinese launch their HF amateur radio satellite yesterday, September 15th, as scheduled? Thanks. 73 Jim Barbre KB7YSY From penguin359 at gmail.com Wed Sep 16 19:27:42 2020 From: penguin359 at gmail.com (Loren M. Lang) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:27:42 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't think it was AMSAT-BB that was hacked. Email headers can easily be set to almost anything, but the Sender you mentioned does not even mention amsat.org in the email address. Here is what I see for you: Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB >From your email: sender: AMSAT-BB Check the original email headers for the email, in particular, any received headers and see if anything actually appears to be going through amsat.org. Better than that, see if the bogus emails are actually in the thread list on amsat.org: https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/ -Loren K7IW On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > I just got three strange messages , one with an attachment, from > sender: AMSAT-BB > > The subject line was something I started last month. The word "virus" appended to subject line on two of these by AVG. > > -- > Joe Leikhim > > > Leikhim and Associates > > Communications Consultants > > Oviedo, Florida > > JLeikhim at Leikhim.com > > 407-982-0446 > > WWW.LEIKHIM.COM > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at amsat.org Wed Sep 16 18:41:36 2020 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:41:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84E0B14F-0BD0-44D5-8D61-6C29B6BE7EC7@amsat.org> AMSAT bb is unable to forward attachments. If you look at the headers you will probably see it did not come from AMSAT. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: ?I just got three strange messages , one with an attachment, from sender: AMSAT-BB The subject line was something I started last month. The word "virus" appended to subject line on two of these by AVG. -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From briaandy at gmail.com Thu Sep 17 08:04:27 2020 From: briaandy at gmail.com (Andy Brian) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:04:27 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro Rotary motor In-Reply-To: <35646926-E797-4FBE-BCC1-CC7FD09BB02F@icloud.com> References: <35646926-E797-4FBE-BCC1-CC7FD09BB02F@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hi all, it seems obsolete and impossible to find it also at G3IBI out of stock. thanks all for help BR Andy On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 3:47 PM Gregory Beat via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Andy - > As you know Yaesu bought out the Kenpro rotator product line. > ? > At one time, Peter G3IBI had spare parts for Kenpro. Contact him. > http://www.g3ibi.co.uk/spares > == > On March 11, 2011 the T?hoku earthquake and tsunami moved the main island > of Japan Honshu 2.4 meters (8 feet) to the East. The Fukushima and Miyagi > prefectures received significant damage and some areas totally destroyed. > This was a significant disruption, and changed the Asian electronics > supplier channel. > Many small electronics suppliers/subcontractors were in this Japanese > region. This resulted in parts and assembly shortages for many industries > (automobile, appliance, amateur radio). Eventually Japanese mfg. pivoted > to other Asian suppliers. > == > In March 2012, the Yaesu/Kenpro azimuth motor failed on the G-5500 Az-El > rotator system owned by David Palmer, KB5WIA. He contacted Yaesu USA > Parts, but they formed him that they had no replacement AZ motors (at the > time ? 2011 T?hoku). > ? > Here are the steps and photos that KB5WIA took to DIY Disassemble and > Rewind that Azimuth motor. > http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/yaesu-g5500-rotator-motor-repair.html > > Repair notes by Ivo Klinkert, PA1IVO > https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/G-5500.html > > Yaesu/Kenpro Rotator Repair Notes compiled from AMSAT Archives > http://www.ocrg.org/W7KKE/rotor/rotor_help.html > > greg > w9gb > === > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:11:16 +0200 > From: Andy Brian > To: AMSAT-BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro Rotary motor > > Hi, > > Anyone have the good information where to buy or find the substitute for > azimuth rotary KR-5600? > thanks for any information > > BR Andy > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Thu Sep 17 16:14:06 2020 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:14:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese HF satellite In-Reply-To: <7d632bd8-d3ad-7a4b-9cd1-c4e1f9c50436@xmission.com> References: <7d632bd8-d3ad-7a4b-9cd1-c4e1f9c50436@xmission.com> Message-ID: <58f6d6cd-fa98-e27b-4750-f666bf197814@mindspring.com> satellites listed for that date show a series(9) OF SATS named JILN-01 GAOFEN X, launched from China. 73 Christy KB6LTY *Jim Barbre* jbarbre at xmission.com /Wed Sep 16 17:58:59 UTC 2020/ * Previous message: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? * *Messages sorted by:* [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did the Chinese launch their HF amateur radio satellite yesterday, September 15th, as scheduled? Thanks. 73 Jim Barbre KB7YSY ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Previous message: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? * *Messages sorted by:* [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ More information about the AMSAT-BB mailing list From wandtosborne at gmail.com Thu Sep 17 23:28:59 2020 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:28:59 +1200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab launch from Wallops Island getting close Message-ID: See: https://www.rocketlabusa.com/about-us/updates/rocket-lab-completes-final-dress-rehearsal-at-launch-complex-2-ahead-of-first-electron-mission-from-u-s-soil/ 73, Terry Osborne ZL2BAC From ke4al at yahoo.com Fri Sep 18 13:57:36 2020 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] The AMSAT Journal, July/August 2020 References: <1372837356.3881239.1600437456252.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1372837356.3881239.1600437456252@mail.yahoo.com> Due to COVID-19, the July/August 2020 issue of The AMSAT Journal will only be available to members on AMSAT?s Member Portal.? Please visit launch.amsat.org to view/download your copy today. The AMSAT Journal is a bi-monthly magazine for amateur radio in space enthusiasts, published by the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT). Each issue is your source for hardware and software projects, technical tips, STEM initiatives, operational activities, and news from around the world. Inside the Current Issue: Engineering Update Jerry Buxton N0JY User Services Update Robert Bankston KE4AL Treasurer's Report Robert Bankston KE4AL Educational Relations Update Alan Johnston KU2Y AMSAT Field Day 2020 Bruce Paige KK5DO For Beginners ? Amateur Radio Satellite Primer VI Keith Baker KB1SF/VE2KSF Satellite Cyber Threats Omar ?lvarez-C?rdenas XE1AO; Miguel A. Garc?a-Ruiz VE3BKM; Margarita G. MayoralBaldivia XE1BMG; Ra?l T. Aquino-Santos (SWL) Integration of a Distributed Ground Station Network M.A.Mendoza-B?rcenas (SWL); Rafael Prieto-Mel?ndez (SWL); Alejandro Padr?n-God?nez (SWL); Gerardo Calva-Olmos (SWL), Omar ?lvarez-C?rdenas XE1AO; Margarita G. Mayoral-Baldivia XE1BMG; Alfonso TamezRodr?guez XE2O Satellite Antenna Tracking Using Goto Telescope Mounts Dwayne Sinclair NA6US Not an AMSAT member?? Visit launch.amsat.org and JOIN TODAY! Robert Bankston, KE4AL Vice-President, User Services Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From brennanprice at verizon.net Fri Sep 18 15:00:03 2020 From: brennanprice at verizon.net (Brennan Price) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Election References: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> Peter Prendergast wrote: > Are the results out yet? 1,233 envelopes were returned, of which 1,231 could be associated with a unique member. As the local public health situation makes a traditionally tellered count infeasible, I have invited candidates, directors, officers, and a few people local to Northern Virginia who I had planned to invite as tellers to observe my handling of the ballots through a Zoom session I've set up (to the extent my webcam permits--I try to set up to give a good view). The handling involves opening each envelope face down, removing the ballot from the face-down envelope and putting it into a receptacle, and tallying the ballots after all of them within the batch have been placed into the receptacle, meeting the bylaws requirement for a secret ballot. I have conducted two sessions thus far (Wednesday afternoon and Thursday evening). I believe I will be able to finish in one more session. Invited folks from across and without the generally perceived ideological divide have observed one or both sessions in whole and in part, and I appreciate their investment of time to give the confidence that observing the process imparts. The bylaws require an announcement as soon as practicable, and in no event later than September 30. This standard will be met. 73, Brennan Price, N4QX Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation From zmetzing at pobox.com Fri Sep 18 15:23:55 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:23:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election In-Reply-To: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> References: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94aac227-b9a4-4e69-b3ef-7bf814419fad@www.fastmail.com> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Brennan Price via AMSAT-BB wrote: > The bylaws require an announcement as soon as practicable, and in no > event later than September 30. This standard will be met. Brennan, I'd like to thank you for volunteering your valuable time for this essential task, and for your professional demeanor during the process. --- Zach N0ZGO From n6rfm1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 16:04:04 2020 From: n6rfm1 at gmail.com (Robert Mattaliano) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:04:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election In-Reply-To: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> References: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13F67B58-6E5C-4991-9F72-55FF163ACA17@gmail.com> Thank you Brennan, Your efforts and diligence are much appreciated. Bob M. N6RFM > On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:17, Brennan Price via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?Peter Prendergast wrote: > >> Are the results out yet? > > 1,233 envelopes were returned, of which 1,231 could be associated with a unique member. > > As the local public health situation makes a traditionally tellered count infeasible, I have invited candidates, directors, officers, and a few people local to Northern Virginia who I had planned to invite as tellers to observe my handling of the ballots through a Zoom session I've set up (to the extent my webcam permits--I try to set up to give a good view). The handling involves opening each envelope face down, removing the ballot from the face-down envelope and putting it into a receptacle, and tallying the ballots after all of them within the batch have been placed into the receptacle, meeting the bylaws requirement for a secret ballot. > > I have conducted two sessions thus far (Wednesday afternoon and Thursday evening). I believe I will be able to finish in one more session. Invited folks from across and without the generally perceived ideological divide have observed one or both sessions in whole and in part, and I appreciate their investment of time to give the confidence that observing the process imparts. > > The bylaws require an announcement as soon as practicable, and in no event later than September 30. This standard will be met. > > 73, > Brennan Price, N4QX > Secretary > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Fri Sep 18 16:34:10 2020 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:34:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 QSO? In-Reply-To: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> References: <426149530.6119383.1600441203795.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <426149530.6119383.1600441203795@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you were in grid square EN90 and I had a QSO with you via SO-50 this morning about 1327 UTC, please reply. My recorder did not clearly pick up your callsign. ?Thanks! Steve AI9IN Oldenburg IN Grid EM79ji ? From aj9n at aol.com Fri Sep 18 17:18:04 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC References: <1271055055.3661474.1600449484934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1271055055.3661474.1600449484934@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact was successful: Fri 2020-09-18 12:56:34 UTC 65 deg (***) ? Watch for live stream at:? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMDcOZOF2FE&feature=youtu.be ? ? ************************************************************************************************************* There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. (***) https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1399. (***) Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1332. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 18:13:08 2020 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:13:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gpredict "Transponder" database update for ISS? Message-ID: Hi folks, Does anyone know if there is a way to update Gpredict's "Transponder" database for the new ISS cross-band repeater? The program can download a JSON blobby-thing from the Internet with all the transponders included, but the Mode V/U FM Voice information for the ISS is for the old radio (145.800 up, instead of 145.990). I can temporarily override the setting in the Radio Control screen, but it reverts back to the un-altered information from time to time, which is rather annoying. Thanks, Greg KO6TH From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Sep 18 18:18:47 2020 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:18:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gpredict "Transponder" database update for ISS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greg, This is sourced through the SatNOGS database. It looks like the proper transmitter is listed as Mode V/U FM - Voice Repeater: https://db.satnogs.org/satellite/25544#transmitters 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:13 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know if there is a way to update Gpredict's "Transponder" > database for the new ISS cross-band repeater? The program can download > a JSON blobby-thing from the Internet with all the transponders > included, but the Mode V/U FM Voice information for the ISS is for the > old radio (145.800 up, instead of 145.990). > > I can temporarily override the setting in the Radio Control screen, but > it reverts back to the un-altered information from time to time, which > is rather annoying. > > Thanks, > > Greg KO6TH > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From royldean at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 19:39:00 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:39:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gpredict "Transponder" database update for ISS? Message-ID: It should be there. I updated transponders about a day after the repeater went online (I was the one who added the transmitter via SatNogs transmitter submittal). It's listed as "Mode V/U FM - Voice Repeater", and should be the last one listed. --Roy K3RLD > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know if there is a way to update Gpredict's "Transponder" > database for the new ISS cross-band repeater? The program can download > a JSON blobby-thing from the Internet with all the transponders > included, but the Mode V/U FM Voice information for the ISS is for the > old radio (145.800 up, instead of 145.990). > > I can temporarily override the setting in the Radio Control screen, but > it reverts back to the un-altered information from time to time, which > is rather annoying. > > Thanks, > > Greg KO6TH > > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri Sep 18 22:57:47 2020 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 18:57:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 notes Message-ID: <000201d68e0f$211caf70$63560e50$@mindspring.com> All, AO-7 is approaching a return to full illumination, sometime around September 25. This period will last until approximately December 26. During this time, it is likely AO-7 will switch between Modes A and B (2m/10m, and 70cm/2m) every 24 hours. Get those 10m antennas ready to enjoy mode A every other day. On another note, here's a reminder and request to remember to keep the power down. Recently, I've observed sometimes several different stations, usually in the middle of the passband, ditting away on CW in an attempt to find themselves. This often bounces the entire passband up and down, and sometimes causes the transponder to reset ("flip") to Mode A. Try to find yourself with very low power, or on SSB, or best, with full Doppler control, and the other users will thank you. If you have to use high power to find yourself, your receive antenna and system probably needs improvement. SSB users should also watch their uplink power carefully. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Ops From skristof at etczone.com Fri Sep 18 23:25:48 2020 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:25:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 notes In-Reply-To: <000201d68e0f$211caf70$63560e50$@mindspring.com> References: <000201d68e0f$211caf70$63560e50$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <04a4f80d4a43fb5286181dd3f6c4b20d@etczone.com> Drew, what counts as "low-power" for AO-7? Steve AI9IN ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Date: 09/18/20 18:59 To: AMSAT BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Cc: ans-editor at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 notes All, AO-7 is approaching a return to full illumination, sometime around September 25. This period will last until approximately December 26. During this time, it is likely AO-7 will switch between Modes A and B (2m/10m, and 70cm/2m) every 24 hours. Get those 10m antennas ready to enjoy mode A every other day. On another note, here's a reminder and request to remember to keep the power down. Recently, I've observed sometimes several different stations, usually in the middle of the passband, ditting away on CW in an attempt to find themselves. This often bounces the entire passband up and down, and sometimes causes the transponder to reset ("flip") to Mode A. Try to find yourself with very low power, or on SSB, or best, with full Doppler control, and the other users will thank you. If you have to use high power to find yourself, your receive antenna and system probably needs improvement. SSB users should also watch their uplink power carefully. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Ops _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri Sep 18 23:45:55 2020 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:45:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 notes Message-ID: <000a01d68e15$da32d470$8e987d50$@mindspring.com> Low enough that the passband doesn't bounce up and down with each character or syllable, or when there is a minimal amount of frequency distortion on ssb. Some days that?s more or less than other days. Antenna gain also is part of the equation. I said power, I should have said ERP. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:26 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 notes Drew, what counts as "low-power" for AO-7? Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Date: 09/18/20 18:59 To: AMSAT BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Cc: ans-editor at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 notes All, AO-7 is approaching a return to full illumination, sometime around September 25. This period will last until approximately December 26. During this time, it is likely AO-7 will switch between Modes A and B (2m/10m, and 70cm/2m) every 24 hours. Get those 10m antennas ready to enjoy mode A every other day. On another note, here's a reminder and request to remember to keep the power down. Recently, I've observed sometimes several different stations, usually in the middle of the passband, ditting away on CW in an attempt to find themselves. This often bounces the entire passband up and down, and sometimes causes the transponder to reset ("flip") to Mode A. Try to find yourself with very low power, or on SSB, or best, with full Doppler control, and the other users will thank you. If you have to use high power to find yourself, your receive antenna and system probably needs improvement. SSB users should also watch their uplink power carefully. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Ops _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From royldean at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 23:55:59 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:55:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gpredict "Transponder" database update for ISS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't think you are getting the latest set of transmitters. The list I have is: Mode U/V Voice Mod V APRS Mode V/V FM (Crew R1) Mode V/V FM (Crew R2+3) Mode U APRS Digi Mode V/U FM Voice VHF-2 Soyuz Communication - FMN VHF-1 Soyuz Communication - FMN TEMP Off-Frequency SSTV Mode V/V APRS Tanusha FM Tomsk-TPU-120 CUCU (SpaceX COTS UHF Communication Unit) Soyuz / Orlan space suit Mystery transmitter 137.6257 ISS CCSDS Data 1 Mode V Imaging Mode V/U FM - Voice Repeater [this is the new repeater pair] I am running Ubuntu 18.04, and Gpredict 2.3.57-2d80 --Roy K3RLD On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 6:32 PM Greg D wrote: > Hi Paul, Roy, > > Interesting. I'm not seeing all those options. The fetch of the > transmitters.json seemed to work (file with today's time stamp found in > ~/.config/Gpredict/trsp). Deleted it, and re-fetched. No change. > > Are there too many entries for all to be displayed, or is something else > stale in my config, preventing the updated file from being applied? I > don't have (or don't think I have) any utilities to edit the file, to clear > out the now-unused entries. I can't post a screen shot here, but the > pull-down for the mode only includes the following (in this order): > > - Mode V/V AFSK Packet > - Mode V/U FM Voice > - Mode V APRS > - Mode V Imaging > - Mode U/V FM Voice > - Mode V/V FM (crew R2+3) > - Mode V/V FM (crew R1) > - Tomsk-TPI-120 - Deployed in outer space > - Mode U APRS Digi > - Soyouz Communication - FMN > - Tanusha FM > > Mode V/U FM Voice is the closest, but with the wrong uplink frequency. > > Greg KO6TH > > > Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Greg, > > This is sourced through the SatNOGS database. It looks like the proper > transmitter is listed as Mode V/U FM - Voice Repeater:https://db.satnogs.org/satellite/25544#transmitters > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:13 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know if there is a way to update Gpredict's "Transponder" > database for the new ISS cross-band repeater? The program can download > a JSON blobby-thing from the Internet with all the transponders > included, but the Mode V/U FM Voice information for the ISS is for the > old radio (145.800 up, instead of 145.990). > > I can temporarily override the setting in the Radio Control screen, but > it reverts back to the un-altered information from time to time, which > is rather annoying. > > Thanks, > > Greg KO6TH > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Sat Sep 19 03:08:38 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (P. Suryono Adisoemarta) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 03:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92: Lack of beacon References: <550197751.3808556.1600484918504.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <550197751.3808556.1600484918504@mail.yahoo.com> Dear all, why AO-92 is totally quiet in the past couple of days? Can the beacon be activated so we can keep take a look on its condition, similar with AO-95. 73 de Yono - YD0NXXJakarta, Indonesia From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Sat Sep 19 04:11:36 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Yono Adisoemarta) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 11:11:36 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92: Lack of beacon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E309C7E-1F8E-4228-8C50-C43AAB918970@yahoo.com> I guess I should?ve follow-up on that posting as I read and understand one battery cell is failing . The question is why not treat similar to AO-95 with beacon active while permanently in Safe Mode, to minimize stress on the remaining good cells . 73 de Yono - YD0NXX Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 10:25 AM, KI7UNJ Tucker wrote: > > ? > This has been answered multiple times via the BB > > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/079702.html > > It is being kept offline UFN, till a plan is worked out. > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM P. Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> Dear all, >> why AO-92 is totally quiet in the past couple of days? Can the beacon be activated so we can keep take a look on its condition, similar with AO-95. >> 73 de Yono - YD0NXXJakarta, Indonesia >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > -- > Casey Tucker KI7UNJ > https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ > From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Sep 19 13:08:47 2020 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 09:08:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92: Lack of beacon In-Reply-To: <7E309C7E-1F8E-4228-8C50-C43AAB918970@yahoo.com> References: <7E309C7E-1F8E-4228-8C50-C43AAB918970@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45042058-b4d9-11b9-5f4d-6eab0d29dbf6@gmail.com> Hello Yono, Due to what looks like a failing cell in the battery, if AO-92 is in SAFE mode (like is AO-95), during eclipse the transmitter coming "ON" to beacon every couple minutes apparently drops the voltage to a point that a reset occurs.?? Then, the satellite is still in SAFE mode, so next orbit in eclipse, it repeats.? That is what the pattern looks like.? It seems not productive and likely to be harmful to that cell and the battery. So, by turning the transmitter OFF, it looks like that prevents the reset cycles every orbit.? This should be better for the battery, and may extend our enjoyment of AO-92 in occasional repeater mode--even if that requires us to manually turning it ON or OFF, for special events or occasions. Hope that information is helpful. 73, Mark N8MH (Command station) On 9/19/2020 12:11 AM, Yono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I guess I should?ve follow-up on that posting as I read and understand one battery cell is failing . > > The question is why not treat similar to AO-95 with beacon active while permanently in Safe Mode, to minimize stress on the remaining good cells . > > 73 de Yono - YD0NXX > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 19, 2020, at 10:25 AM, KI7UNJ Tucker wrote: >> >> ? >> This has been answered multiple times via the BB >> >> https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/079702.html >> >> It is being kept offline UFN, till a plan is worked out. >> >>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM P. Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> why AO-92 is totally quiet in the past couple of days? Can the beacon be activated so we can keep take a look on its condition, similar with AO-95. >>> 73 de Yono - YD0NXXJakarta, Indonesia >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> -- >> Casey Tucker KI7UNJ >> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Sep 19 15:10:57 2020 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 11:10:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode 1535 utc today 19 Sept 2020 Message-ID: Going to try camera mode on AO-92 about 1535 utc today 19 Sept 2020! Get your Foxtelem running in HS mode. @AMSAT #amsat -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sat Sep 19 17:19:27 2020 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:19:27 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gpredict "Transponder" database update for ISS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03d0de06-c974-865e-5914-afe2c2534812@gmail.com> Thanks, Apostolos, The version of Gpredict (1.3_465) is the latest that was offered with this distro. There appear to be several bugs involved here. I haven't tried force-loading a newer version, or building from source, but generally when things are this far out of date, that process doesn't end well. I did the manual update on the file, and that seems to be working, so I'm good for now. At some point I will need to rebuild the entire system. That may be my winter's project... 73, Greg KO6TH Apostolos Kefalas wrote: > Hello Greg, > > I do not know which version of Gpredict you are using, but I remember > there was a bug in older versions, regarding the update of > transponders. Try the latest version which seems to work OK, at least > in my case. > > If you can't (don't want to) update, with your favorite editor, edit > the file: > > ~/.config/Gpredict/trsp/25544.trsp > > find the V/U transponder and update it. > > > 73 > Apostolos, SV1LJJ > > > > On Fri, 2020-09-18 at 11:13 -0700, Greg D via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone know if there is a way to update Gpredict's "Transponder" >> database for the new ISS cross-band repeater? The program can >> download >> a JSON blobby-thing from the Internet with all the transponders >> included, but the Mode V/U FM Voice information for the ISS is for >> the >> old radio (145.800 up, instead of 145.990). >> >> I can temporarily override the setting in the Radio Control screen, >> but >> it reverts back to the un-altered information from time to time, >> which >> is rather annoying. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: >> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com Sat Sep 19 21:45:15 2020 From: hbasri.schiers6 at gmail.com (Hasan N0AN) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:45:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese HF satellite In-Reply-To: <58f6d6cd-fa98-e27b-4750-f666bf197814@mindspring.com> References: <7d632bd8-d3ad-7a4b-9cd1-c4e1f9c50436@xmission.com> <58f6d6cd-fa98-e27b-4750-f666bf197814@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Hi Christy Can anyone confirm that the SATs were successfully launched? ...and is there any updated info? 73, N0AN Hasan On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:57 AM christy hunter via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > satellites listed for that date show a series(9) OF SATS named JILN-01 > GAOFEN X, > > launched from China. > > 73 Christy KB6LTY > > > *Jim Barbre* jbarbre at xmission.com > ?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bamsat-bb%5D%20Chinese%20HF%20satellite&In-Reply-To=%3C7d632bd8-d3ad-7a4b-9cd1-c4e1f9c50436% > 40xmission.com%3E> > /Wed Sep 16 17:58:59 UTC 2020/ > > * Previous message: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? > > * *Messages sorted by:* [ date ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/date.html#79722> > [ thread ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/thread.html#79722> > [ subject ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/subject.html#79722 > > > [ author ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/author.html#79722> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Did the Chinese launch their HF amateur radio satellite yesterday, > September 15th, as scheduled? > Thanks. > 73 > Jim Barbre > KB7YSY > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * Previous message: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB hacked??? > > * *Messages sorted by:* [ date ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/date.html#79722> > [ thread ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/thread.html#79722> > [ subject ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/subject.html#79722 > > > [ author ] > < > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/author.html#79722> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > More information about the AMSAT-BB mailing list > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From DCFox at rwglaw.com Sat Sep 19 23:22:16 2020 From: DCFox at rwglaw.com (D. Craig Fox) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:22:16 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] more Fox Delta- G5400 fun Message-ID: Hello fellow satops. After thinking I had fixed my Fox Delta ST2 calibration/runaway readout problem (worked for "a while"), the problem started up again. With much help from Dinesh VU2FD and Frank K7SFN at FD, the epromm was reprogrammed, thinking maybe some rf got into the ST2. Unfortunately, now there is no readout on the ST2 display, although it is illuminated, and I cannot manually bring up the calibration screen (or any screen). The front buttons on the ST2 are inoperative. The DIN plug connections between the ST2 and the G5400 are solid. The G5400 controller and rotors all work as they should using the Yaesu controller box. Not sure how to go about doing any further troubleshooting except maybe to check voltages on the wires coming from the G5400 through the DIN plug to the screw strip on the ST2 board. I've got my money's worth out of this great little box and don't mind getting a new one (this time, the USB version), but need to first eliminate the G5400 as the issue. If anyone happens to have info on what voltages I should be reading on the cable/ wires from the G5400, that would be very helpful. I assume some of the voltages will be variable based on rotor positions. I checked the G5400 manual but it does not appear to provide that information without analysis of the schematic. (beyond my skill set) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 73, Craig N6RSX From k0jm.mark at gmail.com Sun Sep 20 00:00:00 2020 From: k0jm.mark at gmail.com (Mark Johns, K0JM) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 19:00:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-264 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-264 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun- icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. 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DATE 2020 September 20 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-264.01 AMSAT Board of Directors Elections Results Balloting for the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation?s 2020 Board of Directors election concluded September 15. Of the 1,233 envelopes returned, 1,231 could be associated with a unique member. Ballots were separated from the envelopes to maintain secrecy and counted by the Secretary over three sessions conducted on September 16, 17, and 18. Candidates, Directors, Officers, and tellers chosen by the Secretary were invited to observe the opening of returned envelopes and handling of ballots during the count. Five envelopes contained reports of deceased members, resulting in a total of 1,226 ballots scrutinized. The number of votes cast for each candidate is as follows: Mark Hammond, N8MH 707 Paul Stoetzer, N8HM 703 Bruce Paige, KK5DO 667 Howie DeFelice, AB2S 550 Bob McGwier, N4HY 534 Jeff Johns, WE4B 429 Four ballots were spoiled. Accordingly, pursuant to Article III, Section 4 of the Bylaws: Mark Hammond, N8MH, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, and Bruce Paige, KK5DO, have been elected as Directors of the Corporation for terms ending in 2022. Howie DeFelice, AB2S, has been elected as First Alternate Director of the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. Bob McGwier, N4HY, has been elected as Second Alternate Director of the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. The Secretary thanks the candidates for their cooperation during the election process, those who observed the counting for their time and scrutiny, and the members of the Corporation for their interest and participation. (ANS thanks Brennan Price, N4QX, AMSAT Secretary for the above infor- mation) +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office is closed until further notice. For details, please visit https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ July/August AMSAT Journal Is Now Available Due to COVID-19, the July/August 2020 issue of The AMSAT Journal will only be available to members on AMSAT?s Member Portal. Please visit launch.amsat.org to view/download your copy today. The AMSAT Journal is a bi-monthly magazine for amateur radio in space enthusiasts, published by the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT). Each issue is your source for hardware and software projects, technical tips, STEM initiatives, operational activities, and news from around the world. Inside the Current Issue Engineering Update, Jerry Buxton N0JY User Services Update, Robert Bankston KE4AL Treasurer's Report, Robert Bankston KE4AL Educational Relations Update, Alan Johnston KU2Y AMSAT Field Day 2020, Bruce Paige KK5DO For Beginners ? Amateur Radio Satellite Primer VI, Keith Baker KB1SF/VE2KSF Satellite Cyber Threats, Omar ?lvarez-C?rdenas XE1AO; Miguel A. Garc?a-Ruiz VE3BKM; Margarita G. MayoralBaldivia XE1BMG; Ra?l T. Aquino-Santos (SWL) Integration of a Distributed Ground Station Network, M.A.Mendoza- B?rcenas (SWL); Rafael Prieto-Mel?ndez (SWL); Alejandro Padr?n- God?nez (SWL); Gerardo Calva-Olmos (SWL), Omar ?lvarez-C?rdenas XE1AO; Margarita G. Mayoral-Baldivia XE1BMG; Alfonso TamezRod- r?guez ? XE2O Satellite Antenna Tracking Using Goto Telescope Mounts, Dwayne Sinclair ? NA6US [ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows, and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space. https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ RAC Canada 2020 Conference and AGM is this Sunday Radio Amateurs of Canada is pleased to welcome all Amateurs to the RAC Canada 2020 Conference which will be held on Sunday, September 20 be- fore the RAC Annual General Meeting. Complete descriptions of all of the presentations can be found on the RAC website at: https://www.rac.ca/rac-canada-2020-conference-and-agm-is-this-sunday/ There is no registration fee for this event and registration is now underway. Canada 2020 Conference Overview: The RAC Canada 2020 Conference is an interactive mini-conference that will feature interesting presentations on a wide range of topics as shown below. Whether you are a new Amateur or have been enjoying Ama- teur Radio for many years there will be something of interest for you to discover. Given the great response we have received, we have now decided to ex- tend the schedule to include a keynote presentation followed by three sessions. Each session will have multiple presentations so that participants can choose those presentations that are of most interest to them. In addi- tion, all sessions will be recorded for viewing later so you won?t miss out if two of your favourites take place at the same time. Keynote presentation: 12 noon to 12:50 pm ET First session (4 presentations): 1 pm to 1:50 ET Second session (4 presentations): 2 pm to 2:50 ET Third session (3 presentations): 3 pm to 3:50 ET The Annual General Meeting will then begin after the Conference at 4 pm ET. Conference Presentations and Schedule: The following is a list of presentations and the schedule of events: Keynote Presentation: 12 noon to 12:50 pm ET ?A Fireside Chat?: ?Amateur Radio during the Global Pandemic and other topics? An informal discussion featuring the following distinguished guests: Glenn MacDonell, VE3XRA: President, Radio Amateurs of Canada Tim Ellam, VE6SH: President, International Amateur Radio Union Rick Roderick, K5UR: President, American Radio Relay League Steve Thomas, M1ACB: General Manager, Radio Soc'ty of Great Britain In these unprecedented times, this is an excellent ? and possibly historic opportunity ? to engage in a discussion on the challenges we face today and the future of Amateur Radio. First session: 1 pm to 1:50 pm ET Getting Started with Amateur Radio Satellites ? Tom Schuessler, N5HYP Amateur Radio and Youth ? Brian Jackson, VE6JBJ Amateur Radio Challenges in Canada?s North ? Ron Thompson, VE8RT and Angela Gerbrandt, VY0YL CY9C St. Paul Island DXpedition ? Phil McBride, VA3QR Second session: 2 pm to 12:50 pm ET 6m FT8 DXing ? Ron Schwartz, VE3VN Contesting: Remote Operating ? Cary Rubenfeld, VE4EA, Tom Haavisto, VE3CX & Gerry Hull, VE1RM VO2AC: Contest DXpedition to Labrador (CQ Zone 2) ? Chris Allingham, VE3FU/VO2AC Amateur Radio Hotspots: A Quick Overview ? Allan Boyd, VE3AJB Third session: 3 pm to 3:50 pm ET La proposition d?une classe d?entr?e pour les radioamateurs (en fran?ais) ? Guy Richard, VE2QG/VE2XTD Amateur Radio: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow ? Allen Wootton, VY1KX High Altitude Balloons: The Elevation Education ? Kelly Shulman, VE3KLX [ANS thanks Radio Amateurs of Canada and Southgate ARC for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AO-7 Approaching Return To Full Illumination AO-7 is approaching a return to full illumination, sometime around September 25. This period will last until approximately December 26. During this time, it is likely AO-7 will switch between Modes A and B (2m/10m, and 70cm/2m) every 24 hours. Get those 10m antennas ready to enjoy mode A every other day. On another note, here?s a reminder and request to remember to keep the power down. Recently, I?ve observed sometimes several different sta- tions, usually in the middle of the passband, ditting away on CW in an attempt to find themselves. This often bounces the entire passband up and down, and sometimes causes the transponder to reset (?flip?) to Mode A. Try to find yourself with very low power, or on SSB, or best, with full Doppler control, and the other users will thank you. If you have to use high power to find yourself, your receive antenna and sys- tem probably needs improvement. SSB users should also watch their up- link power carefully. [ANS thanks Andrew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT VP Operations, for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Want to fly the colors on your own grid expedition? Get your AMSAT car flag and other neat stuff from our Zazzle store! 25% of the purchase price of each product goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution The following satellites have been and removed from this week's AMSAT- NA TLE Distribution: OBJECT D - Cat ID 46275. OBJECT F - Cat ID 46277. To understand why, first consider that at this time about 52 satellites have been placed in orbit, so far. Nico Janssen, PA0DLO, has determined that Object D and Object F cannot be either AmicalSat or TTU 110. This based on the fact that Object D and Object F are in the SAME group of satellites (and orbit) into which UPMSat 2 (Cat. ID 46276) was launched. AmicalSat and TTU 100 are in another (and later) group of satellites that were launched later into a higher orbit and are now about a half an orbit away from UPMSat 2 (and Object D and Object F). This is quite a bit of good detective work by Nico! There's more! Since TTU 100 is not transmitting, it is really not pos- sible to identify TTU 100 by radio signal at this time. (The group that TTU 100 was launched still makes it sure that Objects D and F are not AmicalSat and TTU 100.) So TTU 100's Catalog Number is still (at this time) unknown. And so ... the following satellite has been and added to this week's AMSAT-NA TLE distribution: AmicalSat - Cat ID 46287. Again, a big thanks to Nico Janssen, PA0DLO. [ANS thanks Ray Hoad, WA5QGD, AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager, for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS NEWS Amateurs and others around the world may listen in on contacts between amateurs operating in schools and allowing students to interact with astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the International Space Station. The downlink frequency on which to listen is 145.800 MHz worldwide. Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON The ISS callsign was scheduled to be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut was Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR. The contact was scheduled for Friday, 9-18-2020 at 12:56:34 UTC. The contact was successful. [ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N, one of the ARISS operation team men- tors for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur radio package, including two-way communication capability, to be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Upcoming Satellite Operations Quick Hits: EM26/27 ?Late this week or This weekend? @KL7TN JM08, 9/17 -9/21 @EA6/EA4NF. Formentera Island. DXCC EA6 ? Grid JM08 ? IOTA EU-004, LEO SAT FM & LINEARS, QSL via LoTW as EA6/EA4NF. For this new sat portable activation, Philippe will bring with him his Yaesu FT818ND and a FT817ND operating in full Duplex on all LEO satellites with an Alaskan Arrow Antenna. CN86, 9/19 & 9/20, @N7AME : I hope to access the FM satellites AO-91, and AO-92 on most passes during September 19 and 20 during the WWDXC Salmon Run. If they count, I will be at Lewis and Clark SP WA (K-3221) and in Lewis County which will be Grid CN96. K5TA will be on the air as W6H occasionally until this Sunday, 20-Sep, as New Mexico's satellite representative in the ?Route 66 On The Air? special event. For general info visit http://w6jbt.org/?page_id=19. QSL via K8TE. Our coordinator is working on getting a certificate for LoTW, but it?s not up yet. Besides, the paper cards are nice-looking. Christy, KB6LTY, is also on sats as W6D from San Bernardino County ? you remember the old song ??Kingman, Barstow, San Bernardino!? -Scott K5TA DM65 Albuquerque. CN76/77 10/3 and 10/4 @AD0DX Just booked tickets for beautiful Ocean Shores, WA? CN76/CN77 grid line Sat Oct 3 approx 0000z to Sun Oct 4th approx 1700z, pass details closer to the trip Major Roves: Beginning this Saturday, 19 Sept thru Friday, 25 Sept, @kylee_ke0wpa and @ND0C will be doing some holiday roving in several Iowa grids: EN11, EN12, EN20, EN21, EN22 and EN30 ? some lines. None of them are particularly rare, but we?ll be there nevertheless. Operation will be limited by work commitments and family activities, but we will focus on AO-91 and SO-50 and maybe some linears. Hope to turn a few grids green for some folks. Please play nice, i.e. no blind calls, no stomp- ing and allow the QSOs to be completed! [ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR, AMSAT rover page manager, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events Clint Bradford K6LCS has booked his ?Work the FM Voice Satellites With Minimal Equipment? presentation for the clubs: 10/27/2020 ? Cherryland ARC / Traverse Bay ARC TBD ? Antelope Valley (CA) ARC TBD ? A private presentation for a Boy Scout troop in Danville, Penn. These will be Zoom presentations. Everyone is asked to update their copies of the Zoom application ? by directly visiting Zoom.us. The 38th Annual AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting in- person event scheduled to be held in Bloomington, Minnesota has been canceled. The event will be shifted to a virtual, online platform. The in-person event was scheduled to occur Friday, October 16th - Sunday, October 18th. As the 2020 virtual event plans are developed, they will be announced via the usual AMSAT channels. [ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR, AMSAT Events page manager, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + Last week Jupiter had 79 moons. This week it may have 600 more, in- cluding some that go backwards! A new study says that there may be as many as 600 small ?irregular moons? orbiting Jupiter. An irregular moon is a minor object that used to orbit the Sun, but was captured by a giant planet early on in the Solar System?s history. Having swapped from being Sun-orbiting to planet-orbiting, they often have ?eccentric? orbits; distant, inclined and retrograde?they orbit back- wards. (ANS thanks Forbes.com for the above information) + Rajesh Vagadia, VU2EXP, from Gujarat State in western India, and Lucky Bijanki, VU2LBW from Bangalore in southern India, successfully worked one another via six different FM Satellites in single day on September 9. It's a record for such satellite activities in the region. Satellites worked were AO-91 (0650Z), PO-101 (0830Z), AO-27 (1305Z), SO-50 (1514Z), AO-92 (1712Z) & ARISS - ISS (1714Z). (ANS thanks Rajesh Vagadia, VU2EXP, for the above information) + A small leak of ammonia has been detected at the U.S. segment of the International Space Station (ISS). Ammonia is used in transferring heat from the US segment on the ISS to space. Moderate levels of ammonia are not so dangerous, but exposure to high concentrations of it can be a health hazard. The leak is at a rate of about 700 grams [1.5 pounds] per year. There is no threat to the ISS crew. A similar situation occurred in 2017 and was resolved. (ANS thanks Space Daily for the above information) + Earth observation satellites are playing a key role in analyzing and responding to the fires in the western U.S. NASA?s Fire Information for Resource Management System provides daily fire point-source de- tection, along with real time geofenced updates, world wide. NASA also provides a dashboard of world temperature. (ANS thanks The Or- bital Index for the above information) + It was like the opening scene from a movie: cars pulled over on a busy freeway, with everyone gawking in disbelief at what they were seeing. Drivers in New Jersey on September 14 thought a flying saucer was hovering above them. But in reality, it was just another day in 2020 and the UFO was an aircraft from planet Earth: the Goodyear Blimp. With just the right lighting conditions, viewing angle and reflections, the blimp looked just like a classic flying saucer. (ANS thanks Universe Today for the above information) + Following requests from many amateurs outside South Africa, AMSAT-SA now offers its hand-held VHF/UHF yagi for export if ordered in a batch of 6, at R950 each (approx US $65), total for a batch of 6 R5700. (approx US $ 390). Available to countries in the European Union and the USA. For more information, see http://www.amsatsa.org.za/DualbandYagi.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73 and Remember to help keep amateur radio in space, This week's ANS Editor, Mark D. Johns, K0JM k0jm at amsat dot org From royldean at gmail.com Sun Sep 20 00:05:33 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 20:05:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] more Fox Delta- G5400 fun Message-ID: Craig, Not sure if this helps, but occasionally when I switch on my serial ST2 + G5400 rotator, I get the same blank screen. I am able to clear it by turning off the G-5400B controller, unplugging the ST2 at the USB plug (its on a prolific serial-usb adapter), and then turning the G5400B controller back on (I power the ST2 directly from the G5400B). The screen comes back, and then I plug the USB adapter back in and I can use the system normally. I suspect you've already tried stuff like this already, but worth a shot. Good luck. --Roy K3RLD > Hello fellow satops. After thinking I had fixed my Fox Delta ST2 calibration/runaway readout problem (worked for "a while"), the problem started up again. With much help from Dinesh VU2FD and Frank K7SFN at FD, the epromm was reprogrammed, thinking maybe some rf got into the ST2. Unfortunately, now there is no readout on the ST2 display, although it is illuminated, and I cannot manually bring up the calibration screen (or any screen). The front buttons on the ST2 are inoperative. The DIN plug connections between the ST2 and the G5400 are solid. The G5400 controller and rotors all work as they should using the Yaesu controller box. Not sure how to go about doing any further troubleshooting except maybe to check voltages on the wires coming from the G5400 through the DIN plug to the screw strip on the ST2 board. I've got my money's worth out of this great little box and don't mind getting a new one (this time, the USB version), but need to first eliminate the G5400 as the issue. > > If anyone happens to have info on what voltages I should be reading on the cable/ wires from the G5400, that would be very helpful. I assume some of the voltages will be variable based on rotor positions. I checked the G5400 manual but it does not appear to provide that information without analysis of the schematic. (beyond my skill set) > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > 73, Craig > N6RSX > > From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Sun Sep 20 01:31:06 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Yono Adisoemarta) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:31:06 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92: Lack of beacon In-Reply-To: <45042058-b4d9-11b9-5f4d-6eab0d29dbf6@gmail.com> References: <45042058-b4d9-11b9-5f4d-6eab0d29dbf6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mark, Thanks for the explanation and the path forward to prolong the life of AO-92. 73 de Yono - YD0NXX Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Mark Hammond wrote: > > ?Hello Yono, > > Due to what looks like a failing cell in the battery, if AO-92 is in SAFE mode (like is AO-95), during eclipse the transmitter coming "ON" to beacon every couple minutes apparently drops the voltage to a point that a reset occurs. Then, the satellite is still in SAFE mode, so next orbit in eclipse, it repeats. That is what the pattern looks like. It seems not productive and likely to be harmful to that cell and the battery. > > So, by turning the transmitter OFF, it looks like that prevents the reset cycles every orbit. This should be better for the battery, and may extend our enjoyment of AO-92 in occasional repeater mode--even if that requires us to manually turning it ON or OFF, for special events or occasions. > > Hope that information is helpful. > > 73, > > Mark N8MH (Command station) > >> On 9/19/2020 12:11 AM, Yono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> I guess I should?ve follow-up on that posting as I read and understand one battery cell is failing . >> >> The question is why not treat similar to AO-95 with beacon active while permanently in Safe Mode, to minimize stress on the remaining good cells . >> >> 73 de Yono - YD0NXX >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 10:25 AM, KI7UNJ Tucker wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> This has been answered multiple times via the BB >>> >>> https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-September/079702.html >>> >>> It is being kept offline UFN, till a plan is worked out. >>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM P. Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> why AO-92 is totally quiet in the past couple of days? Can the beacon be activated so we can keep take a look on its condition, similar with AO-95. >>>> 73 de Yono - YD0NXXJakarta, Indonesia >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> -- >>> Casey Tucker KI7UNJ >>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Sun Sep 20 01:45:47 2020 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 20:45:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Amateurs of Canada AMSAT presentation. References: <02f201d68eef$c3e5bef0$4bb13cd0$.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <02f201d68eef$c3e5bef0$4bb13cd0$@verizon.net> Hi all, I will be doing a "Getting Started" presentation for the Radio Amateurs of Canada Annual conference tomorrow, Sunday September 20th. My session will be at 1PM Eastern, 1800Z. They will be streaming and archiving all their sessions on the RAC YouTube Channel but you can go to the Radio Amateurs of Canada web site and register for the Zoom sessions to be able to do Q & A. I recommend any of our Canadian satellite friends who are on the list to register if not already, and please join in. They have some other interesting seminars on various different topics as well as their Annual Meeting. Not too long a commitment. Only about54 hours from end to end on Sunday. Should be another fun outreach for Amateur Radio in Space. Hope to see yo there. 73 Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From hamsat at xs4all.nl Sun Sep 20 07:32:37 2020 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 09:32:37 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese HF satellite In-Reply-To: References: <7d632bd8-d3ad-7a4b-9cd1-c4e1f9c50436@xmission.com> <58f6d6cd-fa98-e27b-4750-f666bf197814@mindspring.com> Message-ID: No new Chinese amateur satellites have been launched. There are plans to launch CAS 5A, CAS 5B, CAS 7A and CAS 7C on a Long March 11 rocket 'soon'. As there was a launch of such a rocket on September 15 rumors appeared that maybe these CASs could be on this launch. But it appeared that nine Jilin Earth imaging satellites were launched instead. There is no new information available on a possible launch date for the CASs, not even rumors. 73, Nico PA0DLO On 19-09-2020 23:45, Hasan N0AN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi Christy > Can anyone confirm that the SATs were successfully launched? ...and is > there any updated info? > 73, N0AN > Hasan > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:57 AM christy hunter via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> satellites listed for that date show a series(9) OF SATS named JILN-01 >> GAOFEN X, >> >> launched from China. >> >> 73 Christy KB6LTY >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Did the Chinese launch their HF amateur radio satellite yesterday, >> September 15th, as scheduled? >> Thanks. >> 73 >> Jim Barbre >> KB7YSY >> >> From mikflathead at aol.com Sun Sep 20 19:10:32 2020 From: mikflathead at aol.com (mikflathead at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas References: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> I am looking for ideas on fastening the feed lines for CP antennas. I have a 22 element M2 for 144 and a 435CP30 M2. Running the feed lines out the back seems to create problems. Are people supporting the cables or letting them hang. Any ideas will be help full. Thanks Mike From gary_mayfield at hotmail.com Sun Sep 20 19:50:08 2020 From: gary_mayfield at hotmail.com (Gary) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:50:08 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas In-Reply-To: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I always ran my feedline along the boom of the antenna to the crossboom. Then along the crossboom back to the AZ/EL rotator with a loop around the rotator. There are a couple pictures near the bottom of the page here: http://www.kk0sd.net/sattower/sattower02.htm I used a metal crossboom based on information from antenna guru Keith Britain, wa5vjb. You can see that information here: http://www.kk0sd.net/metalboom/metalboom.htm It worked very well. 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of WB8PFZ via AMSAT-BB Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 2:11 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas I am looking for ideas on fastening the feed lines for CP antennas. I have a 22 element M2 for 144 and a 435CP30 M2. Running the feed lines out the back seems to create problems. Are people supporting the cables or letting them hang. Any ideas will be help full. Thanks Mike _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From DCFox at rwglaw.com Sun Sep 20 22:53:32 2020 From: DCFox at rwglaw.com (D. Craig Fox) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 22:53:32 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] more Fox Delta- G5400 fun In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d7967896754444b8242a7f389e0bcec@RWGEX1.RWG.com> Thanks Roy. I also had that experience early on. I will give it another try using your specific technique. I had previously noted that the display ordinarily works even when the usb/serial cable is unplugged. But I will give it a try. After speaking to Dinesh at FD, I think the epromm is toast. Thanks again. 73, Craig N6RSX -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:06 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] more Fox Delta- G5400 fun Craig, Not sure if this helps, but occasionally when I switch on my serial ST2 + G5400 rotator, I get the same blank screen. I am able to clear it by turning off the G-5400B controller, unplugging the ST2 at the USB plug (its on a prolific serial-usb adapter), and then turning the G5400B controller back on (I power the ST2 directly from the G5400B). The screen comes back, and then I plug the USB adapter back in and I can use the system normally. I suspect you've already tried stuff like this already, but worth a shot. Good luck. --Roy K3RLD > Hello fellow satops. After thinking I had fixed my Fox Delta ST2 calibration/runaway readout problem (worked for "a while"), the problem started up again. With much help from Dinesh VU2FD and Frank K7SFN at FD, the epromm was reprogrammed, thinking maybe some rf got into the ST2. Unfortunately, now there is no readout on the ST2 display, although it is illuminated, and I cannot manually bring up the calibration screen (or any screen). The front buttons on the ST2 are inoperative. The DIN plug connections between the ST2 and the G5400 are solid. The G5400 controller and rotors all work as they should using the Yaesu controller box. Not sure how to go about doing any further troubleshooting except maybe to check voltages on the wires coming from the G5400 through the DIN plug to the screw strip on the ST2 board. I've got my money's worth out of this great little box and don't mind getting a new one (this time, the USB version), but need to first eliminate the G5400 as the is! sue. > > If anyone happens to have info on what voltages I should be reading on > the cable/ wires from the G5400, that would be very helpful. I assume > some of the voltages will be variable based on rotor positions. I > checked the G5400 manual but it does not appear to provide that > information without analysis of the schematic. (beyond my skill set) > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > 73, Craig > N6RSX > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb (If this message is spam, please report it to IT Dept. Thank you.) From jim at k6ccc.org Mon Sep 21 00:07:37 2020 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:07:37 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas In-Reply-To: References: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <81256a29-ef65-ffb2-1ff7-76aeedf5cc5b@k6ccc.org> On 09/20/2020 12:50, Gary via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I always ran my feedline along the boom of the antenna to the crossboom. Then along the crossboom back to the AZ/EL rotator with a loop around the rotator. Same here. -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 00:36:44 2020 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:36:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Board election Message-ID: Congratulations to those who came in 1-3 and are now board members and Howie who is first alternate. I am deeply grateful for all who supported my candidacy. My place in this notwithstanding, I feel it makes little sense for me to be second alternate given this seems likely to cause conflict of interest recusals in my position with ARDC. I would have dealt with he pain of it had I been elected to the board or been first alternate. Jeff Johns also ran so this move by me doesn't leave AMSAT without a second alternate. I wish the organization well in its endeavors. My life membership continues and I have a new amateur satellite system under construction at my retirement home in Alabama and I expect to be active soon since I have constructed the M2 crossed yagis, received the Yaesu AZ/EL rotator and expect my Q5 to arrive this Fall. My new satellite tracking software package written in Golang is well underway and I hope I can get people to try it soon. 73s Bob N4HY From afeller at ieee.org Mon Sep 21 00:50:32 2020 From: afeller at ieee.org (Arthur Feller) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 20:50:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Board election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Bob!! Your voice at the table would give me much more confidence in the quality of our Board?s decisions. The knowledge, experience, and reasoning you bring to the table won?t be replaced. Please, reconsider and stay at the table. 73, art?.. W4ART Arlington VA > On 20-Sep-2020, at 08:36 PM, Robert McGwier via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Congratulations to those who came in 1-3 and are now board members and > Howie who is first alternate. > > I am deeply grateful for all who supported my candidacy. > > My place in this notwithstanding, I feel it makes little sense for me to be > second alternate given this seems likely to cause conflict of interest > recusals in my position with ARDC. I would have dealt with he pain of it > had I been elected to the board or been first alternate. Jeff Johns also > ran so this move by me doesn't leave AMSAT without a second alternate. > > I wish the organization well in its endeavors. > > My life membership continues and I have a new amateur satellite system > under construction at my retirement home in Alabama and I expect to be > active soon since I have constructed the M2 crossed yagis, received the > Yaesu AZ/EL rotator and expect my Q5 to arrive this Fall. My new satellite > tracking software package written in Golang is well underway and I hope I > can get people to try it soon. > > 73s > Bob > N4HY > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb To thrive in life, you need three bones: a wish bone, a back bone, and a funny bone. - Reba McEntire http://afeller.us From john at papays.com Mon Sep 21 17:40:51 2020 From: john at papays.com (john at papays.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 13:40:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/MM QSL Confirmations Message-ID: <6c40fc03cfe63af028f2d38803b4aa54@papays.com> Yuri, UT1FG/MM, is back on the Goldeneye and is sailing from Columbia to Jacksonville Florida today, September 21, 2020. At Jacksonville he will have a good opportunity to mail out confirmations from last season as well as others prior. Please follow the procedure at papays.com/sat and email your pdf's to me. I will forward them to Yuri. If you have sent pdf's in the past and not received an answer, please send them again. As he gets closer to Jacksonville, he will not be able to work on the confirmations so please get your requests in now. That way you will have a better chance at getting the confirmations mailed. 73, John K8YSE From mountain.michelle at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 17:57:38 2020 From: mountain.michelle at gmail.com (Michelle Thompson) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:57:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Major Grant for Open Source Amateur Radio Satellite Service Work Message-ID: I'm very happy to announce that two grants have been made for open source amateur radio satellite work. This closes out an extraordinarily successful summer of regulatory progress, published designs, community development, and fundraising. All of this work directly benefits AMSAT. It benefits AMSAT regardless of whether it's ignored in the short term, attacked, ridiculed, or stolen. One of the new grants, for $4200, is for AmbaSat-inspired nanosat microwave designs. These lightweight designs will be useful for high-altitude balloons as well as space. Intended for University level education, this project will produce repeatable and manufacturable open source designs. The other grant is for $507,020. It is for the second phase of engineering work for the complete digital ground station and payload design. This grant took 14 months of very hard work to obtain. All are welcome to participate. All work is published in a way that makes it accessible to the general public at no cost, with standard licensing and full compliance with all regulations. A third grant, for Rent-a-GEO, is still under review. You can look back through the archives to find out more about that proposal. AMSAT leaders were informed of these grant applications. AMSAT was informed and invited to be part of the Commodity Jurisdiction Request, in writing, multiple times. AMSAT members were invited to contribute, review, participate, comment, and critique the grant proposal. Many members did. The process of writing the grants has been open, with workshops at major amateur events, recruitment of a committee from a diverse technical background, forum presentations, paper presentations, hardware experiments, work carried out on a public mailing list, and so on. There were at least six significant re-writes based on unflinching feedback from the community, ARDC technical review board, and committee members. That is what "very hard work" means. Before the transponder grant was awarded, ORI board offered a technical support contract that would share all funds with AMSAT/ARISS/AREx. As long as the work was mutually beneficial, the funds would be openly available to AREx. That contract can be found here: https://github.com/phase4ground/documents/blob/master/Papers_Articles_Presentations/Articles_and_Announcements/AREx-Support-Contract-July-2020.pdf This was presented as a starting point draft, open to negotiation and tailoring. However, it was declined without an explanation. This is not the only negative response to fundraising and regulatory work from AMSAT. Attacks against the landmark Commodity Jurisdiction Request, personal attacks by leadership on anyone associated with this grant, and the open ridicule of the previous YASME, ARRL Foundation, and ARDC grants seem to be what a bit more than half of members want. That is certainly what AMSAT leadership is currently providing. Calling successful engineers that have dozens of projects in space "liars" and "grifters", and shrieking that this grant is going to be "completely wasted" by an AMSAT member society while sharing photos of cash on fire on social media, is not a great look for the Executive Vice President of AMSAT. Ridiculing a desperately needed Final Determination letter from the State Department as a "self-indulgent publicity stunt" is a shockingly stupid thing for the VP of Engineering to publicly state. Rejecting written offers of six-figure fundraising support, and rejecting dozens of competent volunteer recruits' free labor, seems kind of dumb to me. AMSAT would be in great shape if it took advantage of the gifts of time, talent, and treasure that have been consistently and freely offered. Instead, we have a raft of resignations, continued silence, and ugly memes. In looking at the low numbers of AMSAT voters, it may seem kind of silly to keep showing up with seriously needed solutions (ITAR/EAR, several world's-first technical advancements, major funds) when they are rejected so clumsily. However, just because it seems silly now, does not mean it is wrong to keep trying. Nearly half of voters wanted open source and a return to technical leadership this year. This is a huge increase looking at the past three years (from zero!) and is extremely good news. Unfortunately, this time around, non-technical and litigious leadership managed to keep their seats. However, the trend is clear, the regulatory framework has changed, and open source work is rapidly leapfrogging opaque, authoritarian, and exclusionary mindsets. There is a very bright future unfolding. Do you want to make a difference? Consider running for the board. The time to start preparing for 2021 is now. It's well worth the effort and time. If I can make the difference that I have in the past year, in terms of regulatory work, technical work, and fundraising, just imagine what you can do! There has never been a better time to get into amateur microwave, digital design, FPGAs, and space. -Michelle W5NYV From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Sep 21 18:05:46 2020 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:05:46 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] The AMSAT Journal, July/August 2020 In-Reply-To: <1372837356.3881239.1600437456252@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1372837356.3881239.1600437456252.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1372837356.3881239.1600437456252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Robert, How has COVID-19 prevented AMSAT from printing and mailing Journals? I just received the October QST, and have been receiving them each month since the start of the pandemic. Other ham organizations that mail publications have continued to do this. It seems like AMSAT could do the same thing. Is there something else going on, which has not been disclosed either to the Board of Directors or the general AMSAT membership, as to why AMSAT stopped printing and mailing Journals? Thank you. Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 1:59 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Due to COVID-19, the July/August 2020 issue of The AMSAT Journal will > only be available to members on AMSAT?s Member Portal. Please visit > launch.amsat.org to view/download your copy today. > > > > From seb at wintek.com Mon Sep 21 18:29:31 2020 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:29:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Board election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2BC124BD-8B2E-4DCB-B539-394438E592AC@wintek.com> Bob, I'd also like to see you serve as an Alternate on AMSAT's Board of Directors. You have lots of knowledge and experience that could be very helpful in the year ahead. Space is hard, and AMSAT can use all the help we can get. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com ?On 9/20/20, 8:53 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Arthur Feller via AMSAT-BB" wrote: Hi, Bob!! Your voice at the table would give me much more confidence in the quality of our Board?s decisions. The knowledge, experience, and reasoning you bring to the table won?t be replaced. Please, reconsider and stay at the table. 73, art?.. W4ART Arlington VA > On 20-Sep-2020, at 08:36 PM, Robert McGwier via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Congratulations to those who came in 1-3 and are now board members and > Howie who is first alternate. > > I am deeply grateful for all who supported my candidacy. > > My place in this notwithstanding, I feel it makes little sense for me to be > second alternate given this seems likely to cause conflict of interest > recusals in my position with ARDC. I would have dealt with he pain of it > had I been elected to the board or been first alternate. Jeff Johns also > ran so this move by me doesn't leave AMSAT without a second alternate. > > I wish the organization well in its endeavors. > > My life membership continues and I have a new amateur satellite system > under construction at my retirement home in Alabama and I expect to be > active soon since I have constructed the M2 crossed yagis, received the > Yaesu AZ/EL rotator and expect my Q5 to arrive this Fall. My new satellite > tracking software package written in Golang is well underway and I hope I > can get people to try it soon. > > 73s > Bob > N4HY > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb To thrive in life, you need three bones: a wish bone, a back bone, and a funny bone. - Reba McEntire http://afeller.us _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Sep 21 18:53:42 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Board election In-Reply-To: <2BC124BD-8B2E-4DCB-B539-394438E592AC@wintek.com> References: <2BC124BD-8B2E-4DCB-B539-394438E592AC@wintek.com> Message-ID: <1786077590.4473328.1600714422456@mail.yahoo.com> Bob,Like Steve, I believe you bring a lot to the table Bob and should serve as an alternate. Your experience is invaluable. Dave Jordan, AA4KN? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:30 PM, Stephen E. Belter via AMSAT-BB wrote: Bob, I'd also like to see you serve as an Alternate on AMSAT's Board of Directors.? You have lots of knowledge and experience that could be very helpful in the year ahead.? Space is hard, and AMSAT can use all the help we can get. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com ?On 9/20/20, 8:53 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Arthur Feller via AMSAT-BB" wrote: ? ? Hi, Bob!! ? ? Your voice at the table would give me much more confidence in the quality of our Board?s decisions.? The knowledge, experience, and reasoning you bring to the table won?t be replaced.? Please, reconsider and stay at the table. ? ? 73, art?.. ? ? W4ART? Arlington VA ? ? > On 20-Sep-2020, at 08:36 PM, Robert McGwier via AMSAT-BB wrote: ? ? > ? ? > Congratulations to those who came in 1-3 and are now board members and ? ? > Howie who is first alternate. ? ? > ? ? > I am deeply grateful for all who supported my candidacy. ? ? > ? ? > My place in this notwithstanding, I feel it makes little sense for me to be ? ? > second alternate given this seems likely to cause conflict of interest ? ? > recusals in my position with ARDC.? I would have dealt with he pain of it ? ? > had I been elected to the board or been first alternate.? Jeff Johns also ? ? > ran so this move by me doesn't leave AMSAT without a second alternate. ? ? > ? ? > I wish the organization well in its endeavors. ? ? > ? ? > My life membership continues and I have a new amateur satellite system ? ? > under construction at my retirement home in Alabama and I expect to be ? ? > active soon since I have constructed the M2 crossed yagis, received the ? ? > Yaesu AZ/EL rotator and expect my Q5 to arrive this Fall. My new satellite ? ? > tracking software package written in Golang is well underway and I hope I ? ? > can get people to try it soon. ? ? > ? ? > 73s ? ? > Bob ? ? > N4HY ? ? > _______________________________________________ ? ? > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available ? ? > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 19:30:59 2020 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 15:30:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Major Grant for Open Source Amateur Radio Satellite Service Work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michelle, With respects to the technical stuff, what is the current state of affairs with the ground station? 1) Does this presentation represent the most up2date picture of the current state of affairs or is there a more recent publication available? https://github.com/phase4ground/documents/blob/master/Papers_Articles_Presentations/Slide_Presentations/p4xt_phase_one_workshop.pptx 2) There are about 7 teams laid out at the end of the presentation (build/rpu/apu/etc...). How big is the team right now and are there any areas that need support? 3) How aggressive is the development timeline? Or, maybe to help get a grip on it, what are the teams milestones, say for the next 6 months (high level). 4) I see a lot of off the shelf (analogdevices/trenz/etc...) hardware in the presentation. They appear to be commercial / non-oss type stuff. Are you using some of them for short-term prototyping, with the intent of replacing them once a particular subsystem is designed and built out? 5) When is the project slated to be complete, or at least, slated to have a prototype that one could potentially build independently and/or order and tinker with? Thank You in advance for the update, Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO From aj9n at aol.com Mon Sep 21 19:29:35 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-21 19:30 UTC References: <485992845.4487129.1600716575936.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <485992845.4487129.1600716575936@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-21 19:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Turkish State Meteorological Service Mehmet Zakir Ekni High School, Yenimahalle, Turkey Kuyuba?i ?ehit O?uzhan Duyar Secondary School, Ke?i?ren, Turkey Ted Ankara College Foundation High School, G?lba??, Turkey Maya Anatolian High School, G?lba??, Turkey Direct via TC2TSC The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Tue 2020-09-29 12:35:08 UTC 78 deg (***) ? ? ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-21 19:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1399. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1332. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From mccardelm at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 21:37:22 2020 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:37:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Board election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9023EA6A-D8DC-4B68-A697-BAF06EAC58B6@gmail.com> Bob, Like others, I think you would be great alternate to the BoD. It?s important especially after this last election season that there be people of reason who have the intelligence to sort out the truth. I encourage you to stay on. Please reconsider. EMike McCardel, AA8EM Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator > On Sep 20, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Robert McGwier via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?Congratulations to those who came in 1-3 and are now board members and > Howie who is first alternate. > > I am deeply grateful for all who supported my candidacy. > > My place in this notwithstanding, I feel it makes little sense for me to be > second alternate given this seems likely to cause conflict of interest > recusals in my position with ARDC. I would have dealt with he pain of it > had I been elected to the board or been first alternate. Jeff Johns also > ran so this move by me doesn't leave AMSAT without a second alternate. > > I wish the organization well in its endeavors. > > My life membership continues and I have a new amateur satellite system > under construction at my retirement home in Alabama and I expect to be > active soon since I have constructed the M2 crossed yagis, received the > Yaesu AZ/EL rotator and expect my Q5 to arrive this Fall. My new satellite > tracking software package written in Golang is well underway and I hope I > can get people to try it soon. > > 73s > Bob > N4HY > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruce at perens.com Mon Sep 21 22:13:40 2020 From: bruce at perens.com (Bruce Perens) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 15:13:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Regarding election results, How many members does AMSAT have? In-Reply-To: <8c71420c-763d-4ce8-aed5-adf543901bff@charter.net> References: <8c71420c-763d-4ce8-aed5-adf543901bff@charter.net> Message-ID: I think we should open a mailing list on the ORI side for satellite operators. Because obviously AMSAT isn't the only US satellite organization, so you shouldn't have to feel alienated out of a piece of your hobby just because AMSAT makes a choice. I'll get that done and then announce it. There already is the "ground station" mailing list where most engineering discussion takes place. Thanks Bruce On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:45 PM Michael Tondee wrote: > Is that a matter of public record? Looking at the vote totals of the > election is what made me ponder the question. I'll be quietly moving on > now and enjoying other aspects of the ham hobby but I'm really curious > what your membership totals are and what the percentage of turnout was > for what was such an important election. > > 73, > > Michael, W4HIJ > > From chibill110 at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 03:50:48 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 22:50:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] What's the deal with having to pay to access Symposium Proceedings? Message-ID: What's the deal with having to pay to access the Symposium Proceedings? Shouldn't these documents be open to members or is there something I am missing? As I have been pointed to look at the Symposium Proceedings a few times while looking into how the Fox Sats work. William Gaylord KD9KCK From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Sep 22 03:54:47 2020 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 23:54:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What's the deal with having to pay to access Symposium Proceedings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All published editions of the Proceedings are free for members at https://launch.amsat.org/Member-Resources 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 23:51 Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote: > What's the deal with having to pay to access the Symposium Proceedings? > > Shouldn't these documents be open to members or is there something I am > > missing? As I have been pointed to look at the Symposium Proceedings a few > > times while looking into how the Fox Sats work. > > > > > > William Gaylord KD9KCK > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From clintbradford at mac.com Tue Sep 22 12:21:50 2020 From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 05:21:50 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Elections Message-ID: BOB>> ? [someone else] also ran so this move by me doesn't leave AMSAT without a second alternate. The electorate spoke. It is YOU who was needed. Please reconsider - and serve AMSAT-NA in that capacity. Please do NOT let the choice of the voters slip away ? Clint Bradford K6LCS From mccardelm at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 13:15:38 2020 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 09:15:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Regarding election results, How many members does AMSAT have? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FAC493C-C70D-4F76-8826-9F3B05D6D0D2@gmail.com> Bruce, Who is the ?We? you suggest. ORI? Just to remind everyone one of your previous comments: ?Perhaps nothing indicts the agenda Of ?The Team? than This quote from Bruce Perens. ?I am not convinced that I need to spend my time on convincing anyone at AMSAT. At some point it becomes less effort to simply let AMSAT die and carry on the work elsewhere.?? This seems to be the agenda right along. Personally I can live in a world with more than one amateur radio group or amateur radio satellite group. Especially when one has an historical records of putting satellites into space and the other doesn?t. EMike McCardel, AA8EM Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator > On Sep 21, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?I think we should open a mailing list on the ORI side for satellite > operators. Because obviously AMSAT isn't the only US satellite > organization, so you shouldn't have to feel alienated out of a piece of > your hobby just because AMSAT makes a choice. I'll get that done and then > announce it. There already is the "ground station" mailing list where most > engineering discussion takes place. > > Thanks > > Bruce > > >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:45 PM Michael Tondee wrote: >> >> Is that a matter of public record? Looking at the vote totals of the >> election is what made me ponder the question. I'll be quietly moving on >> now and enjoying other aspects of the ham hobby but I'm really curious >> what your membership totals are and what the percentage of turnout was >> for what was such an important election. >> >> 73, >> >> Michael, W4HIJ >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From curt.laumann at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 00:44:18 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:44:18 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements Message-ID: Hi All, Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) cover the shaft ends. The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine screw, one nut, four bonding points. The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter parasitic elements as well. Regards, Curt / K7ZOO Tucson AZ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing From wageners at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 01:07:42 2020 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:07:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very nice! Will you make the STL file available? 73 Stefan, VE4SW On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > cover the shaft ends. > > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > screw, one nut, four bonding points. > > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > parasitic elements as well. > > Regards, > > Curt / K7ZOO > Tucson AZ > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 01:09:47 2020 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:09:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you share the 3D printing files? Which material are you using? 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 20:46 Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi All, > > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > cover the shaft ends. > > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > screw, one nut, four bonding points. > > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > parasitic elements as well. > > Regards, > > Curt / K7ZOO > Tucson AZ > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From curt.laumann at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 01:24:52 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:24:52 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sure Stefan, et al, I'd be happy to share the STL file. I used FreeCAD and will make those files available as well. I'm sure others can further improve the design. I printed this part out of eSun PLA+, but a better choice for outside use might be PETG. Regards, Curt / K7ZOO Tucson AZ On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 6:07 PM Stefan Wagener wrote: > Very nice! Will you make the STL file available? > > 73 Stefan, VE4SW > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm >> Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link >> below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are >> bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) >> cover the shaft ends. >> >> The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting >> parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the >> angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After >> struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other >> versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine >> screw, one nut, four bonding points. >> >> The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter >> parasitic elements as well. >> >> Regards, >> >> Curt / K7ZOO >> Tucson AZ >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From zmetzing at pobox.com Wed Sep 23 01:52:25 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:52:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <180a5a8c-43f6-9e93-0226-9a9ea0968791@pobox.com> On 09/22/20 19:44, Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > cover the shaft ends. > > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > screw, one nut, four bonding points. > > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > parasitic elements as well. Hello Curt, It appears you and I had the same thought. Look for an upcoming article, already submitted, in the AMSAT journal about my design. The OpenSCAD source files and STL files will be available. --- Zach N0ZGO From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 03:45:16 2020 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:45:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I built a patch feed for 1296 MHz and a folding fabric dish using many 3D printed parts. I have some experience testing parts under stress in hot weather. PLA is great for prototyping but will fail quickly outdoors and then be eaten by squirels and deer. :0 Nylon is strong but softens significantly in heat. ABS or PETG are UV stabile and relatively heat resistant. PETG is great because it prints straight and strong. 3D printing will be a game changer for ham antenna builders. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 21:27 Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Sure Stefan, et al, I'd be happy to share the STL file. I used FreeCAD and > will make those files available as well. I'm sure others can further > improve the design. > > I printed this part out of eSun PLA+, but a better choice for outside use > might be PETG. > > Regards, > > Curt / K7ZOO > Tucson AZ > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 6:07 PM Stefan Wagener wrote: > > > Very nice! Will you make the STL file available? > > > > 73 Stefan, VE4SW > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > >> Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link > >> below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > >> bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > >> cover the shaft ends. > >> > >> The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > >> parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > >> angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > >> struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > >> versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > >> screw, one nut, four bonding points. > >> > >> The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > >> parasitic elements as well. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Curt / K7ZOO > >> Tucson AZ > >> > >> > >> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 16:08:26 2020 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:08:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Curt, Your whole process and experimentation of these would make for an interesting AMSAT Journal article. If you have the time, please consider writing it up. Pictures included. E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD Former Senior Editor for AMSAT News Service, Past VP Educational Relations for AMSAT-NA Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > cover the shaft ends. > > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > screw, one nut, four bonding points. > > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > parasitic elements as well. > > Regards, > > Curt / K7ZOO > Tucson AZ > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From skristof at etczone.com Wed Sep 23 16:17:49 2020 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:17:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D printing (was 70 cm Lindenblad progress) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4655db97395b6fc3e1815ca66770d6de@etczone.com> I am pretty ignorant with respect to 3D printing, but this question just popped into my head. Is there any kind of electrically conductive material that can be used for 3D printing so you could print the actual antenna? Steve AI9IN ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Date: 09/23/20 11:05 To: Curt Laumann (curt.laumann at gmail.com) Cc: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements I built a patch feed for 1296 MHz and a folding fabric dish using many 3D printed parts. ?I have some experience testing parts under stress in hot weather. PLA is great for prototyping but will fail quickly outdoors and then be eaten by squirels and deer. ?:0 Nylon is strong but softens significantly in heat. ABS or PETG are UV stabile and relatively heat resistant. ? PETG is great because it prints straight and strong. 3D printing will be a game changer for ham antenna builders. 73 - Paul - W2HRO From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 17:27:20 2020 From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:27:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D printing (was 70 cm Lindenblad progress) In-Reply-To: <4655db97395b6fc3e1815ca66770d6de@etczone.com> References: <4655db97395b6fc3e1815ca66770d6de@etczone.com> Message-ID: There are plastic filaments for 3D printing that contain conductive material. They are conductive but probably not as good as aluminum and certainly not copper. There are highly conductive acrylic paints that can be applied the the exterior of printed parts. I have read research about printing waveguide and applying silver paint. The results were good. I have printed antenna parts and applied adhesive copper foil. This can work well. Copper foil is cheap. 73 - Paul - W2HRO On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:40 PM Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > I am pretty ignorant with respect to 3D printing, but this question just > popped into my head. Is there any kind of electrically conductive material > that can be used for 3D printing so you could print the actual antenna? > > Steve AI9IN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) > Date: 09/23/20 11:05 > To: Curt Laumann (curt.laumann at gmail.com) > Cc: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support > structure for parasitic elements > > I built a patch feed for 1296 MHz and a folding fabric dish using many 3D > printed parts. I have some experience testing parts under stress in hot > weather. > > PLA is great for prototyping but will fail quickly outdoors and then be > eaten by squirels and deer. :0 > > Nylon is strong but softens significantly in heat. > > ABS or PETG are UV stabile and relatively heat resistant. PETG is great > because it prints straight and strong. > > 3D printing will be a game changer for ham antenna builders. > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From g0kla at arrl.net Wed Sep 23 20:09:36 2020 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:09:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This looks great. I look forward to seeing the STL and design files. BTW PLA held up well for 3D printed antenna parts in Brooklyn NY. It might melt elsewhere, but given the melting point is about 180C and it only got to about 40C on my roof, the 3D printed parts were fine. I had them up through winter and summer for many years. It seems UV resistant. While squirrels have access to the roof, they could not get to the 3D printed parts, so that was not an issue. 73 Chris On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Curt, > > Your whole process and experimentation of these would make for an > interesting AMSAT Journal article. > If you have the time, please consider writing it up. Pictures included. > > E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD > Former Senior Editor for AMSAT News Service, > Past VP Educational Relations for AMSAT-NA > > Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? > http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link > > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > > cover the shaft ends. > > > > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > > screw, one nut, four bonding points. > > > > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > > parasitic elements as well. > > > > Regards, > > > > Curt / K7ZOO > > Tucson AZ > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From framirezferrer at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 20:19:08 2020 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:19:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: PLA won't last long under Arizona's heat. A better choice would be PETG, ABS or ASA (best choice). 73 Fernando, KF7R On Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 1:14 PM Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > This looks great. I look forward to seeing the STL and design files. > BTW PLA held up well for 3D printed antenna parts in Brooklyn NY. It might > melt elsewhere, but given the melting point is about 180C and it only got > to about 40C on my roof, the 3D printed parts were fine. I had them up > through winter and summer for many years. It seems UV resistant. While > squirrels have access to the roof, they could not get to the 3D printed > parts, so that was not an issue. > > 73 > Chris > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > Curt, > > > > Your whole process and experimentation of these would make for an > > interesting AMSAT Journal article. > > If you have the time, please consider writing it up. Pictures included. > > > > E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD > > Former Senior Editor for AMSAT News Service, > > Past VP Educational Relations for AMSAT-NA > > > > Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? > > http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm > > > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture > (link > > > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are > > > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) > > > cover the shaft ends. > > > > > > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting > > > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the > > > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After > > > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other > > > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine > > > screw, one nut, four bonding points. > > > > > > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter > > > parasitic elements as well. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Curt / K7ZOO > > > Tucson AZ > > > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > -- > Chris E. Thompson > chrisethompson at gmail.com > g0kla at arrl.net > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From curt.laumann at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 02:18:38 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:18:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 cm Lindenblad progress - notable support structure for parasitic elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chris, I really have to chuckle at this discussion!!! I grew up in MN, but now live in Tucson... what a contrast. I see squirrels maybe a few times a year on my Tucson property, but the Arizona UV is obviously brutal. One of my friends (K7RJ) printed out a PLA part to use on an outside mast. It lasted about six months (outside in direct sun) and started to show signs of significant deformation. By the way, the "cold" water here in Tucson (at my house) doesn't get cold to the touch until (literally) October. :) Curt / K7ZOO On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:09 PM Chris Thompson wrote: > This looks great. I look forward to seeing the STL and design files. > BTW PLA held up well for 3D printed antenna parts in Brooklyn NY. It > might melt elsewhere, but given the melting point is about 180C and it only > got to about 40C on my roof, the 3D printed parts were fine. I had them up > through winter and summer for many years. It seems UV resistant. While > squirrels have access to the roof, they could not get to the 3D printed > parts, so that was not an issue. > > 73 > Chris > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> Curt, >> >> Your whole process and experimentation of these would make for an >> interesting AMSAT Journal article. >> If you have the time, please consider writing it up. Pictures included. >> >> E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD >> Former Senior Editor for AMSAT News Service, >> Past VP Educational Relations for AMSAT-NA >> >> Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? >> http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Over the past few months I've been designing & assembling a few 70 cm >> > Lindenblads. The current version is shown in the attached picture (link >> > below). Arrow shafts are used for parasitic elements. The shafts are >> > bonded in place with fiberglass resin. Rubber end caps (from McMaster) >> > cover the shaft ends. >> > >> > The notable part of this design is the central structure (supporting >> > parasitic elements) is 3D printed as *one part*. Virtually all of the >> > angles and spacings are achieved in the 3D printing process. After >> > struggling to align and bond various PVC and irrigation parts in other >> > versions, it was a breeze to assemble this design: one nylon machine >> > screw, one nut, four bonding points. >> > >> > The design could be easily modified to accommodate 0.125 inch diameter >> > parasitic elements as well. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Curt / K7ZOO >> > Tucson AZ >> > >> > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i2c6T5lZtI00KChbJuyphvvechzBvlNw/view?usp=sharing >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> > expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > -- > Chris E. Thompson > chrisethompson at gmail.com > g0kla at arrl.net > From rhyolite at leikhim.com Wed Sep 23 23:19:39 2020 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:19:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? Message-ID: <7ed2c18b-20c4-9dbe-2f4a-9597adff5c05@leikhim.com> Have election results been tallied??? -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 06:53:24 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 02:53:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <7ed2c18b-20c4-9dbe-2f4a-9597adff5c05@leikhim.com> References: <7ed2c18b-20c4-9dbe-2f4a-9597adff5c05@leikhim.com> Message-ID: It was in ANS. I don't believe it was sent in a separate email, which I think would have been nice. "AMSAT Board of Directors Elections Results Balloting for the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation?s 2020 Board of Directors election concluded September 15. Of the 1,233 envelopes returned, 1,231 could be associated with a unique member. Ballots were separated from the envelopes to maintain secrecy and counted by the Secretary over three sessions conducted on September 16, 17, and 18. Candidates, Directors, Officers, and tellers chosen by the Secretary were invited to observe the opening of returned envelopes and handling of ballots during the count. Five envelopes contained reports of deceased members, resulting in a total of 1,226 ballots scrutinized. The number of votes cast for each candidate is as follows: Mark Hammond, N8MH 707 Paul Stoetzer, N8HM 703 Bruce Paige, KK5DO 667 Howie DeFelice, AB2S 550 Bob McGwier, N4HY 534 Jeff Johns, WE4B 429 Four ballots were spoiled. Accordingly, pursuant to Article III, Section 4 of the Bylaws: Mark Hammond, N8MH, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, and Bruce Paige, KK5DO, have been elected as Directors of the Corporation for terms ending in 2022. Howie DeFelice, AB2S, has been elected as First Alternate Director of the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. Bob McGwier, N4HY, has been elected as Second Alternate Director of the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. The Secretary thanks the candidates for their cooperation during the election process, those who observed the counting for their time and scrutiny, and the members of the Corporation for their interest and participation. (ANS thanks Brennan Price, N4QX, AMSAT Secretary for the above infor- mation)" Congrats to the winners. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:44 AM Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Have election results been tallied??? > > -- > Joe Leikhim > > > Leikhim and Associates > > Communications Consultants > > Oviedo, Florida > > JLeikhim at Leikhim.com > > 407-982-0446 > > WWW.LEIKHIM.COM > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k0jm.mark at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 12:30:54 2020 From: k0jm.mark at gmail.com (Mark Johns, K0JM) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:30:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: References: <7ed2c18b-20c4-9dbe-2f4a-9597adff5c05@leikhim.com> Message-ID: It was posted to amsat-bb as a separate email on Friday, and in ANS on Saturday evening. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:54 John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote: > It was in ANS. I don't believe it was sent in a separate email, which > > I think would have been nice. > > > > "AMSAT Board of Directors Elections Results > > > > Balloting for the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation?s 2020 Board of > > Directors election concluded September 15. Of the 1,233 envelopes > > returned, 1,231 could be associated with a unique member. > > > > Ballots were separated from the envelopes to maintain secrecy and > > counted by the Secretary over three sessions conducted on September > > 16, 17, and 18. Candidates, Directors, Officers, and tellers chosen by > > the Secretary were invited to observe the opening of returned > > envelopes and handling of ballots during the count. > > > > Five envelopes contained reports of deceased members, resulting in a > > total of 1,226 ballots scrutinized. > > > > The number of votes cast for each candidate is as follows: > > > > Mark Hammond, N8MH 707 > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM 703 > > Bruce Paige, KK5DO 667 > > Howie DeFelice, AB2S 550 > > Bob McGwier, N4HY 534 > > Jeff Johns, WE4B 429 > > > > Four ballots were spoiled. > > > > Accordingly, pursuant to Article III, Section 4 of the Bylaws: > > > > Mark Hammond, N8MH, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, and Bruce Paige, KK5DO, have > > been elected as Directors of the Corporation for terms ending in 2022. > > > > Howie DeFelice, AB2S, has been elected as First Alternate Director of > > the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. > > > > Bob McGwier, N4HY, has been elected as Second Alternate Director of > > the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. > > > > The Secretary thanks the candidates for their cooperation during the > > election process, those who observed the counting for their time and > > scrutiny, and the members of the Corporation for their interest and > > participation. > > > > (ANS thanks Brennan Price, N4QX, AMSAT Secretary for the above infor- > > mation)" > > > > Congrats to the winners. > > > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:44 AM Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB > > wrote: > > > > > > Have election results been tallied??? > > > > > > -- > > > Joe Leikhim > > > > > > > > > Leikhim and Associates > > > > > > Communications Consultants > > > > > > Oviedo, Florida > > > > > > JLeikhim at Leikhim.com > > > > > > 407-982-0446 > > > > > > WWW.LEIKHIM.COM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- -- Mark D. Johns, K?JM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From twjones85 at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 13:02:00 2020 From: twjones85 at gmail.com (Tanner Jones) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 08:02:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> Interesting... I don?t think I received the separate email, but I did catch it in the ANS. Just wanted to also thank Mr. Price (N4QX) for his service as Secretary and for all the work he put in to make the election run smoothly. 73, Tanner W9TWJ Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?It was posted to amsat-bb as a separate email on Friday, and in ANS on > Saturday evening. > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:54 John Brier via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >> It was in ANS. I don't believe it was sent in a separate email, which >> >> I think would have been nice. >> >> >> >> "AMSAT Board of Directors Elections Results >> >> >> >> Balloting for the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation?s 2020 Board of >> >> Directors election concluded September 15. Of the 1,233 envelopes >> >> returned, 1,231 could be associated with a unique member. >> >> >> >> Ballots were separated from the envelopes to maintain secrecy and >> >> counted by the Secretary over three sessions conducted on September >> >> 16, 17, and 18. Candidates, Directors, Officers, and tellers chosen by >> >> the Secretary were invited to observe the opening of returned >> >> envelopes and handling of ballots during the count. >> >> >> >> Five envelopes contained reports of deceased members, resulting in a >> >> total of 1,226 ballots scrutinized. >> >> >> >> The number of votes cast for each candidate is as follows: >> >> >> >> Mark Hammond, N8MH 707 >> >> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM 703 >> >> Bruce Paige, KK5DO 667 >> >> Howie DeFelice, AB2S 550 >> >> Bob McGwier, N4HY 534 >> >> Jeff Johns, WE4B 429 >> >> >> >> Four ballots were spoiled. >> >> >> >> Accordingly, pursuant to Article III, Section 4 of the Bylaws: >> >> >> >> Mark Hammond, N8MH, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, and Bruce Paige, KK5DO, have >> >> been elected as Directors of the Corporation for terms ending in 2022. >> >> >> >> Howie DeFelice, AB2S, has been elected as First Alternate Director of >> >> the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. >> >> >> >> Bob McGwier, N4HY, has been elected as Second Alternate Director of >> >> the Corporation for a term ending in 2021. >> >> >> >> The Secretary thanks the candidates for their cooperation during the >> >> election process, those who observed the counting for their time and >> >> scrutiny, and the members of the Corporation for their interest and >> >> participation. >> >> >> >> (ANS thanks Brennan Price, N4QX, AMSAT Secretary for the above infor- >> >> mation)" >> >> >> >> Congrats to the winners. >> >> >> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:44 AM Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Have election results been tallied??? >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Joe Leikhim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Leikhim and Associates >> >>> >> >>> Communications Consultants >> >>> >> >>> Oviedo, Florida >> >>> >> >>> JLeikhim at Leikhim.com >> >>> >> >>> 407-982-0446 >> >>> >> >>> WWW.LEIKHIM.COM >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> -- > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?JM > AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor > Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at k6ccc.org Thu Sep 24 14:44:22 2020 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:44:22 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> References: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01897a22-f785-04e5-3f75-a6f3e325006d@k6ccc.org> On 09/24/2020 06:02, Tanner Jones via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Interesting... I don?t think I received the separate email, but I did catch it in the ANS. > Neither did I (receive it via AMSAT-BB).? But I did it via ANS. -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From amsat.va7kbm at outlook.com Thu Sep 24 17:00:59 2020 From: amsat.va7kbm at outlook.com (VA7KBM) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:00:59 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <01897a22-f785-04e5-3f75-a6f3e325006d@k6ccc.org> References: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> <01897a22-f785-04e5-3f75-a6f3e325006d@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: It seems to me AMSAT needs a separate mailing list for members only. Never heard of an organization that discusses all of its private (meaning member business) on a public list! 73 Ken VA7KBM On 9/24/2020 7:44 AM, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On 09/24/2020 06:02, Tanner Jones via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> Interesting... I don?t think I received the separate email, but I did >> catch it in the ANS. >> > > Neither did I (receive it via AMSAT-BB).? But I did it via ANS. > From kk5do at arrl.net Thu Sep 24 20:26:54 2020 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:26:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day 2020 References: Message-ID: For those interested in results, I have posted the results on the AMSAT web site. You can either click this direct link https://www.amsat.org/field-day-2020-results/ or Click on Events, Field Day and Field Day 2020 Results I carried the satellite info for 10 years 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2022 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From k0jm.mark at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 21:21:28 2020 From: k0jm.mark at gmail.com (Mark Johns, K0JM) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:21:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <53eefb02-a094-95fb-fb6f-7fbabe3e6036@leikhim.com> References: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> <53eefb02-a094-95fb-fb6f-7fbabe3e6036@leikhim.com> Message-ID: My mistake. I thought it had gone to the full list, but it only came to ANS editors. I?m sorry that I didn?t notice that. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 13:09 Joe Leikhim wrote: > I searched the e-mail and archives and nothing found of the tally. It > > should have been posted on the AMSAT-NA website but not there either as > > of my last check. ANS I seldom read because it is usually TLDR. > > > > > > On 9/24/2020 9:02 AM, Tanner Jones wrote: > > > Interesting... I don?t think I received the separate email, but I did > catch it in the ANS. > > > > > > Just wanted to also thank Mr. Price (N4QX) for his service as Secretary > and for all the work he put in to make the election run smoothly. > > > > > > 73, > > > Tanner > > > > > > W9TWJ > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> ?It was posted to amsat-bb as a separate email on Friday, and in ANS on > > >> Saturday evening. > > > > -- -- Mark D. Johns, K?JM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From rhyolite at leikhim.com Thu Sep 24 18:09:20 2020 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 14:09:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> References: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <53eefb02-a094-95fb-fb6f-7fbabe3e6036@leikhim.com> I searched the e-mail and archives and nothing found of the tally. It should have been posted on the AMSAT-NA website but not there either as of my last check. ANS I seldom read because it is usually TLDR. On 9/24/2020 9:02 AM, Tanner Jones wrote: > Interesting... I don?t think I received the separate email, but I did catch it in the ANS. > > Just wanted to also thank Mr. Price (N4QX) for his service as Secretary and for all the work he put in to make the election run smoothly. > > 73, > Tanner > > W9TWJ > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> >> ?It was posted to amsat-bb as a separate email on Friday, and in ANS on >> Saturday evening. From k9jkm at comcast.net Fri Sep 25 00:19:27 2020 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:19:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <53eefb02-a094-95fb-fb6f-7fbabe3e6036@leikhim.com> References: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> <53eefb02-a094-95fb-fb6f-7fbabe3e6036@leikhim.com> Message-ID: <5F6D378F.8080104@comcast.net> On 9/24/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I searched the e-mail and archives and nothing found of the tally. It > should have been posted on the AMSAT-NA website but not there either > as of my last check. ANS I seldom read because it is usually TLDR. I might recall, perhaps correctly or incorrectly, that at one point you mentioned you're not a member of AMSAT. I'm willing to be corrected however. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 00:39:23 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:39:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <5F6D378F.8080104@comcast.net> References: <5078DF9B-82A6-4B2E-AB62-03F217FA2E5D@gmail.com> <53eefb02-a094-95fb-fb6f-7fbabe3e6036@leikhim.com> <5F6D378F.8080104@comcast.net> Message-ID: What was the exact subject of the email? I'm a member and I didn't notice it and don't see it in my searches. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 20:22 JoAnne K9JKM via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On 9/24/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > I searched the e-mail and archives and nothing found of the tally. It > > should have been posted on the AMSAT-NA website but not there either > > as of my last check. ANS I seldom read because it is usually TLDR. > > I might recall, perhaps correctly or incorrectly, that at one point you > mentioned you're not a member of AMSAT. I'm willing to be corrected > however. > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Fri Sep 25 01:59:28 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-25 02:00 UTC References: <2024475384.539543.1600999168256.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2024475384.539543.1600999168256@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-25 02:00 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? TBD ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-25 02:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1399. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1332. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From rhyolite at leikhim.com Fri Sep 25 03:10:24 2020 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:10:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <4c6f7d31-6c3a-38fa-a7b8-ac5b73fa5a97@leikhim.com> References: <4c6f7d31-6c3a-38fa-a7b8-ac5b73fa5a97@leikhim.com> Message-ID: <848a01eb-179f-3a53-5848-052a3cf5e695@leikhim.com> JoAnne; No, I never said such a thing, nor sure why you would even bring that up at all, or why it would be relevant to my asking about the tally. I have been a licensed ham for ~25 years and a dues paying member of AMSAT; member # #31678 for well over 24 years. , However with what I see going on here I am rethinking that. On 9/24/2020 1:09 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: >/I searched the e-mail and archives and nothing found of the tally. It />/should have been posted on the AMSAT-NA website but not there either />/as of my last check. ANS I seldom read because it is usually TLDR. /*_I might recall, perhaps correctly or incorrectly, that at one point you mentioned you're not a member of AMSAT. I'm willing to be corrected however._* -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org -- Joe K4SAT From k9jkm at comcast.net Fri Sep 25 03:30:27 2020 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 22:30:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results?? In-Reply-To: <848a01eb-179f-3a53-5848-052a3cf5e695@leikhim.com> References: <4c6f7d31-6c3a-38fa-a7b8-ac5b73fa5a97@leikhim.com> <848a01eb-179f-3a53-5848-052a3cf5e695@leikhim.com> Message-ID: <5F6D6453.10303@comcast.net> On 9/24/2020 10:10 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote: > JoAnne; > > No, I never said such a thing ... I stand corrected. Sorry to disturb you. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri Sep 25 12:28:17 2020 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:28:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeff Jones blocked - please explain Message-ID: Jeff Jones Posted in social media that AMSAT blocked him from reading Tweets, etc. In fact, this is what he posted Now, I must report what has happened to me as a result of speaking out against the incumbents (legacy) members of the AMSAT BoDs. Because I spoke out, I was removed from the AMSAT-BB mailing list (a direct violation of AMSAT-NA bylaws). I was removed and banned from the AMSAT-NA Facebook page and I am blocked from viewing the AMSAT Twitter feed. I am a member, and I would like the Board to respond with what criteria were followed in order to come to this conclusion. Is there a Bylaw that he violated? This reads like one person decided on his or her own to lock him out. I have no personal gain in this, however, I do get concerned when things start to take on a dictator roll. Does AMSAT follow any sort of Democracy process? Mike va3mw From charlieray at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 12:52:28 2020 From: charlieray at gmail.com (Charles Reiche) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:52:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeff Jones blocked - please explain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Possibly there was a violation of the Acceptable Use policy? Found here: https://www.amsat.org/new-mail-services-page/ https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.pdf 73 N3CRT Charles Reiche On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:33 AM Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Jeff Jones Posted in social media that AMSAT blocked him from reading > Tweets, etc. > > In fact, this is what he posted > > Now, I must report what has happened to me as a result of speaking out > against the incumbents (legacy) members of the AMSAT BoDs. Because I spoke > out, I was removed from the AMSAT-BB mailing list (a direct violation of > AMSAT-NA bylaws). I was removed and banned from the AMSAT-NA Facebook page > and I am blocked from viewing the AMSAT Twitter feed. > > > I am a member, and I would like the Board to respond with what criteria > were followed in order to come to this conclusion. Is there a Bylaw that > he violated? This reads like one person decided on his or her own to lock > him out. > > I have no personal gain in this, however, I do get concerned when things > start to take on a dictator roll. > > Does AMSAT follow any sort of Democracy process? > > Mike va3mw > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri Sep 25 13:10:45 2020 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:10:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeff Jones blocked - please explain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Charles I hope it was related to that and if so then the offender was educated what he did wrong. To do it without informing the offender as to why is just wrong. Mike va3mw On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:52 AM Charles Reiche wrote: > Possibly there was a violation of the Acceptable Use policy? > > Found here: https://www.amsat.org/new-mail-services-page/ > > > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.pdf > > > 73 > N3CRT > Charles Reiche > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:33 AM Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > >> Jeff Jones Posted in social media that AMSAT blocked him from reading >> Tweets, etc. >> >> In fact, this is what he posted >> >> Now, I must report what has happened to me as a result of speaking out >> against the incumbents (legacy) members of the AMSAT BoDs. Because I spoke >> out, I was removed from the AMSAT-BB mailing list (a direct violation of >> AMSAT-NA bylaws). I was removed and banned from the AMSAT-NA Facebook page >> and I am blocked from viewing the AMSAT Twitter feed. >> >> >> I am a member, and I would like the Board to respond with what criteria >> were followed in order to come to this conclusion. Is there a Bylaw that >> he violated? This reads like one person decided on his or her own to lock >> him out. >> >> I have no personal gain in this, however, I do get concerned when things >> start to take on a dictator roll. >> >> Does AMSAT follow any sort of Democracy process? >> >> Mike va3mw >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From ke4al at yahoo.com Fri Sep 25 13:53:54 2020 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeff Jones blocked - please explain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1506837368.740963.1601042034139@mail.yahoo.com> The person in question clearly violated the Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT Public Mailing Lists (AUP), and was informed of such. ?? While AMSAT embraces diversity of opinions and values, we will not allow AMSAT mailing lists to be used to make inflammatory posts containing attacks against individuals or AMSAT. ?? We caution subscribers when the content of posts begin to cross a line and inform them when it becomes necessary to remove them from the list.? This is done privately and professionally, as it should be. ?? Robert Bankston, KE4AL AMSAT-BB Moderator _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kevin at phunc.com Fri Sep 25 14:00:08 2020 From: kevin at phunc.com (Kevin Elliott) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 07:00:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeff Jones blocked - please explain In-Reply-To: <1506837368.740963.1601042034139@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1506837368.740963.1601042034139@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <367F2BC3-1E6A-4B7F-8151-F2B691330776@phunc.com> I?m tired of the childish behavior of this organization and it?s prehistoric model of dealing with issues. I?ve had enough of the drama always consuming the list, and I?m finally starting to realize this organization is essentially a fraud at this point. Goodbye! > On Sep 25, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > ?The person in question clearly violated the Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT Public Mailing Lists (AUP), and was informed of such. > > While AMSAT embraces diversity of opinions and values, we will not allow AMSAT mailing lists to be used to make inflammatory posts containing attacks against individuals or AMSAT. > > We caution subscribers when the content of posts begin to cross a line and inform them when it becomes necessary to remove them from the list. This is done privately and professionally, as it should be. > > Robert Bankston, KE4AL > AMSAT-BB Moderator > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Fri Sep 25 14:04:06 2020 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL)) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 14:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeff Jones blocked - please explain In-Reply-To: <1506837368.740963.1601042034139@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1506837368.740963.1601042034139@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441687654.729304.1601042646404@mail.yahoo.com> Robert, Thanks for posting this information/reminder. I was hoping that things would calm down after the Election andthe AMSAT-BB could be safely taken off my Spam List. It nowis, but a return to the constant griping has got to stop. KYFC TNX/73,? ? Bob? K8BL? ? ?(AMSAT #6593) On Friday, September 25, 2020, 09:55:43 AM EDT, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote: The person in question clearly violated the Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT Public Mailing Lists (AUP), and was informed of such. ?? While AMSAT embraces diversity of opinions and values, we will not allow AMSAT mailing lists to be used to make inflammatory posts containing attacks against individuals or AMSAT. ?? We caution subscribers when the content of posts begin to cross a line and inform them when it becomes necessary to remove them from the list.? This is done privately and professionally, as it should be. ?? Robert Bankston, KE4AL AMSAT-BB Moderator _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Fri Sep 25 16:42:14 2020 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:42:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] G5500/LVB Tracker/SatPC32 Message-ID: I'm helping a friend get his satellite station set up. He's using an LVB Tracker, G5500 and SatPC32. I'm working on the rotor setup. The setting for 450 degree AZ rotation is greyed out. I can't select it and I'd like to do that. I do have flip mode off. I have to be missing something. -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 17:51:53 2020 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 13:51:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] G5500/LVB Tracker/SatPC32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, do you by chance have 180 deg EL selected? You can't have both 180 and 450.... so 90/450 or 180/360 or 90/360. Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] AMSAT Director and Command Station On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:48 PM Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I'm helping a friend get his satellite station set up. > > He's using an LVB Tracker, G5500 and SatPC32. I'm working on the rotor > setup. The setting for 450 degree AZ rotation is greyed out. I can't > select it and I'd like to do that. I do have flip mode off. > > I have to be missing something. > > -- > > 73, > Mike, N1JEZ > "A closed mouth gathers no feet" > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Fri Sep 25 19:31:01 2020 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:31:01 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] G5500/LVB Tracker/SatPC32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88f9d201-053d-e7fc-957d-397acebc6e45@t-online.de> Mike, make also sure that the? turning point of the azimuth rotor (menu Rotor Setup)? is set to N. By default it is S. 73s, Erich, DK1TG Am 25.09.2020 um 19:51 schrieb Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB: > Mike, do you by chance have 180 deg EL selected? You can't have both 180 > and 450.... so 90/450 or 180/360 or 90/360. > > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > AMSAT Director and Command Station > > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:48 PM Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> I'm helping a friend get his satellite station set up. >> >> He's using an LVB Tracker, G5500 and SatPC32. I'm working on the rotor >> setup. The setting for 450 degree AZ rotation is greyed out. I can't >> select it and I'd like to do that. I do have flip mode off. >> >> I have to be missing something. >> >> -- >> >> 73, >> Mike, N1JEZ >> "A closed mouth gathers no feet" >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Fri Sep 25 18:41:33 2020 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 14:41:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] G5500/LVB Tracker/SatPC32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84d62d9a-29e7-6b10-963f-7d6a73b98644@burlingtontelecom.net> Problem solved. I had to set "turning point of azimuth rotor" to N in Rotor Setup. Was set to S. Tnx to all that replied. Mike On 9/25/2020 12:42 PM, Mike Seguin wrote: > I'm helping a friend get his satellite station set up. > > He's using an LVB Tracker, G5500 and SatPC32. I'm working on the rotor > setup. The setting for 450 degree AZ rotation is greyed out. I can't > select it and I'd like to do that. I do have flip mode off. > > I have to be missing something. > -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From zmetzing at pobox.com Fri Sep 25 18:29:23 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 13:29:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Raise a grand for GOLF! Message-ID: I happened to see this while looking for something else on Twitter, which I do not log into and rarely look at. Posted by AMSAT on Sep 24, 2020 at 6:17 PM: > Raise a grand for GOLF! An anonymous donor has offered to match the first ten contributions of $50 over the next three > days to AMSAT?s GOLF program. Donate today at https://amsat.org/donations/amsat-golf-program-donations/ So, donate away! (This underscores why it is important not to prioritize social-media platforms over the mailing list.) 73, --- Zach N0ZGO From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Fri Sep 25 20:14:06 2020 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joseph B. Fitzgerald) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:14:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Raise a grand for GOLF! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this note, Zach. I figured that something like that must have been happening. The web server sends me messages when various things happen, usually bad news like low disk space, heavy server load etc. So when I saw my inbox full of messages I was concerned that something was broken. But no! The server was reporting that it was happily processing a bunch of $50 donations. Readers are urged to continue this webserver stress test by sending more and larger donations. https://www.amsat.org/donations/amsat-golf-program-donations/ de KM1P Joe From curt.laumann at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 22:55:35 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:55:35 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] K7ZOO 3D printed 70cm Lindy information Message-ID: Hi All, In the spirit of sharing & collaboration: I'd like to offer up my recent work to develop a 3D printed 70 cm Lindy. This leverages the excellent article by AA2TX, striving to make the design significantly more manufacturable. In the share folder (link below) you'll find both design files and descriptive project notes. Constructive feedback to enhance the designs or clarify documentation is certainly welcome. While this effort produced a nicely-performing antenna, I'm sure there are still opportunities for improvement. Regards, Curt / K7ZOO Tucson AZ https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15BXhG_1jJZcUSbdn8j4leHhwdGFLSOZq?usp=sharing From k8bl at ameritech.net Fri Sep 25 23:59:21 2020 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (Bob Liddy (K8BL)) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 23:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SAT-VUCC References: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> Congrats to John K8YSE on reaching the ARRL VUCC Stratosphereof 1999 Confirmed Grids!! Simply AWESOME!!! 73,? ? ?Bob? K8BL From twjones85 at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 00:33:08 2020 From: twjones85 at gmail.com (Tanner Jones) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:33:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SAT-VUCC In-Reply-To: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Absolutely incredible! Congratulations to John!! 73, Tanner W9TWJ On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 7:27 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Congrats to John K8YSE on reaching the ARRL VUCC Stratosphereof 1999 > Confirmed Grids!! Simply AWESOME!!! > 73, Bob K8BL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wb3csy at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 01:06:44 2020 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:06:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SAT-VUCC In-Reply-To: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8778C85C-B131-4D88-AA3E-9BA14542CCD5@gmail.com> Congratulations John! That is a great accomplishment. Many of us can only dream of reaching that goal. 73, Rick WB3CSY Sent from Rick's iPad 3 "Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact" - Carl Sagan No trees were killed in the sending of this message, however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From kk5do at amsat.org Sat Sep 26 01:17:07 2020 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:17:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SAT-VUCC In-Reply-To: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65FA2065-65C3-4F85-B0FF-AA2160365D73@amsat.org> That is quite an accomplishment. Congratulations. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2020, at 7:27 PM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB wrote: ?Congrats to John K8YSE on reaching the ARRL VUCC Stratosphereof 1999 Confirmed Grids!! Simply AWESOME!!! 73, Bob K8BL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n0jy at amsat.org Sat Sep 26 02:59:33 2020 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:59:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Raise a grand for GOLF! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93274083-92b7-d55c-2452-49c28c0077de@amsat.org> I try to keep Zach enthusiastic about making donations. Every time he needs to order GOLF parts I tell him "hey, it's about time for another of your generous donations to AMSAT isn't it?"? I call it the EZ Payroll Deduction Donation.? EZ for me, mainly...? hihi Yes, all donations are appreciated!? No matter the amount you can share, every component counts. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 9/25/2020 15:14, Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thanks for this note, Zach. I figured that something like that must have been happening. The web server sends me messages when various things happen, usually bad news like low disk space, heavy server load etc. So when I saw my inbox full of messages I was concerned that something was broken. But no! The server was reporting that it was happily processing a bunch of $50 donations. > > Readers are urged to continue this webserver stress test by sending more and larger donations. > > https://www.amsat.org/donations/amsat-golf-program-donations/ > > de KM1P Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ke9v at mac.com Sat Sep 26 14:25:02 2020 From: ke9v at mac.com (Jeff Davis) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 10:25:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Connection Question Message-ID: LMR400 routed into the shack to the main transceiver. Curious how others have implemented a semi-elegant solution for using these antennas with FCD+ or other dongle requiring an SMA connection. I know how to do it clumsily, I?m interested in learning how you're doing that nicely? 73 Jeff KE9V From ke4kol at bellsouth.net Sat Sep 26 12:18:32 2020 From: ke4kol at bellsouth.net (ke4kol) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 12:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SAT-VUCC In-Reply-To: <65FA2065-65C3-4F85-B0FF-AA2160365D73@amsat.org> References: <1515308467.948085.1601078361252@mail.yahoo.com> <65FA2065-65C3-4F85-B0FF-AA2160365D73@amsat.org> Message-ID: <156605008.1040382.1601122712715@mail.yahoo.com> Way to go John.? Congrats. Jim, Ke4kol On Friday, September 25, 2020, 09:29:19 PM EDT, Bruce via AMSAT-BB wrote: That is quite an accomplishment.? Congratulations. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2020, at 7:27 PM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB wrote: ?Congrats to John K8YSE on reaching the ARRL VUCC Stratosphereof 1999 Confirmed Grids!! Simply AWESOME!!! 73,? ? Bob? K8BL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 17:27:19 2020 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:27:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Connection Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jeff, I use a thin, flexible jumper with SMA male into SDR and other end is either N-female or SO-239. Cheap on eBay or pretty easy to make. Mark N8MH On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB wrote: > LMR400 routed into the shack to the main transceiver. Curious how others > have implemented a semi-elegant solution for using these antennas with FCD+ > or other dongle requiring an SMA connection. > > > > I know how to do it clumsily, I?m interested in learning how you're doing > that nicely? > > > > 73 Jeff KE9V > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] AMSAT Director and Command Station From propgrinder at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 18:25:36 2020 From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 11:25:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Connection Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jeff, this is what I use for my SDR: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V6R6ZL3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Bob W7OTJ On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 10:34 AM Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Hi Jeff, I use a thin, flexible jumper with SMA male into SDR and other end > is either N-female or SO-239. Cheap on eBay or pretty easy to make. > > Mark > N8MH > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> > wrote: > > > LMR400 routed into the shack to the main transceiver. Curious how others > > have implemented a semi-elegant solution for using these antennas with > FCD+ > > or other dongle requiring an SMA connection. > > > > > > > > I know how to do it clumsily, I?m interested in learning how you're doing > > that nicely? > > > > > > > > 73 Jeff KE9V > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > AMSAT Director and Command Station > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From peter at magicbug.co.uk Sat Sep 26 20:08:40 2020 From: peter at magicbug.co.uk (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:08:40 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Connection Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marks method exactly how I do it jumper pig tails so you don't have big connector strain. Peter, 2M0SQL On Sat, 26 Sep 2020, 18:32 Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB, wrote: > Hi Jeff, I use a thin, flexible jumper with SMA male into SDR and other end > is either N-female or SO-239. Cheap on eBay or pretty easy to make. > > Mark > N8MH > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> > wrote: > > > LMR400 routed into the shack to the main transceiver. Curious how others > > have implemented a semi-elegant solution for using these antennas with > FCD+ > > or other dongle requiring an SMA connection. > > > > > > > > I know how to do it clumsily, I?m interested in learning how you're doing > > that nicely? > > > > > > > > 73 Jeff KE9V > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > AMSAT Director and Command Station > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Sat Sep 26 20:55:20 2020 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:55:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF Message-ID: I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. Thanks for help. 73, Jerry AB5R From stephennipper at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 20:54:27 2020 From: stephennipper at gmail.com (H. Stephen Nipper) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:54:27 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Connection Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can also find the adapter cable that has a female N connector to the male SMA. Keeps you from needing an N barrel connector. Stephen Nipper N7DJX On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 2:40 PM Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Marks method exactly how I do it jumper pig tails so you don't have big > connector strain. > > Peter, 2M0SQL > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020, 18:32 Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB, < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> > wrote: > > > Hi Jeff, I use a thin, flexible jumper with SMA male into SDR and other > end > > is either N-female or SO-239. Cheap on eBay or pretty easy to make. > > > > Mark > > N8MH > > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> > > wrote: > > > > > LMR400 routed into the shack to the main transceiver. Curious how > others > > > have implemented a semi-elegant solution for using these antennas with > > FCD+ > > > or other dongle requiring an SMA connection. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know how to do it clumsily, I?m interested in learning how you're > doing > > > that nicely? > > > > > > > > > > > > 73 Jeff KE9V > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > > expressed > > > > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > > > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > > AMSAT Director and Command Station > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Stephen Nipper Boise, Idaho N7DJX From stephennipper at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 21:15:43 2020 From: stephennipper at gmail.com (H. Stephen Nipper) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:15:43 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A good source that has more than just cable is kf7p.com. From grounding equipment to all kinds of cable. The other one I have used is thewireman.com Stephen Nipper N7DJX On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:04 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their > best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and > PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. > Thanks for help. > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Stephen Nipper Boise, Idaho N7DJX From cathryn at junglevision.com Sat Sep 26 21:22:51 2020 From: cathryn at junglevision.com (Cathryn Mataga) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:22:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas In-Reply-To: <81256a29-ef65-ffb2-1ff7-76aeedf5cc5b@k6ccc.org> References: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> <81256a29-ef65-ffb2-1ff7-76aeedf5cc5b@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: I thought the manual for the M2 antenna specifically warned about this. That the feed line should droop off the back?? Last time I monkeyed up with antennas, I even made this change.? Not sure if this made a difference, though, as I had another issue that turned out to be my real problem. On 9/20/2020 5:07 PM, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On 09/20/2020 12:50, Gary via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> I always ran my feedline along the boom of the antenna to the >> crossboom. Then along the crossboom back to the AZ/EL rotator with a >> loop around the rotator. > > Same here. > From gary_mayfield at hotmail.com Sat Sep 26 21:55:31 2020 From: gary_mayfield at hotmail.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:55:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shireen is usually hard to beat. https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/coax-cable/rfc400uf 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 3:55 PM To: amsat-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. Thanks for help. 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From royldean at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 21:55:03 2020 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 17:55:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF Message-ID: I use USA Coax / MPD Digital: https://usacoax.com/ --Roy K3RLD > I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. > Thanks for help. > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > > From propgrinder at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 22:57:41 2020 From: propgrinder at gmail.com (Bob Hammond) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:57:41 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas In-Reply-To: References: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> <81256a29-ef65-ffb2-1ff7-76aeedf5cc5b@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: That's how I do mine....droop off the back. Bob W7OTJ On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:20 PM Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I thought the manual for the M2 antenna specifically warned about this. > That the feed line should droop off the back? Last time I monkeyed up > with antennas, I even made this change. Not sure if this made a > difference, though, as I had another issue that turned out to be my real > problem. > > On 9/20/2020 5:07 PM, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > On 09/20/2020 12:50, Gary via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >> I always ran my feedline along the boom of the antenna to the > >> crossboom. Then along the crossboom back to the AZ/EL rotator with a > >> loop around the rotator. > > > > Same here. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From gary_mayfield at hotmail.com Sat Sep 26 23:20:26 2020 From: gary_mayfield at hotmail.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:20:26 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas In-Reply-To: References: <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1920164245.6744473.1600629032566@mail.yahoo.com> <81256a29-ef65-ffb2-1ff7-76aeedf5cc5b@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: Rather than explain how to do it correctly it was easier to say just don't do it. So they said don't do it. If you want to read how to do it correctly I have published antenna guru Kent Britain (WA5VJB) paper on the subject with permission here: http://www.kk0sd.net/metalboom/metalboom.htm If you would like to see pictures of how I followed his instructions you can seen the pictures near the bottom of the page here: http://www.kk0sd.net/sattower/sattower02.htm 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:23 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] feeding CP antennas I thought the manual for the M2 antenna specifically warned about this. That the feed line should droop off the back?? Last time I monkeyed up with antennas, I even made this change.? Not sure if this made a difference, though, as I had another issue that turned out to be my real problem. On 9/20/2020 5:07 PM, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On 09/20/2020 12:50, Gary via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> I always ran my feedline along the boom of the antenna to the >> crossboom. Then along the crossboom back to the AZ/EL rotator with a >> loop around the rotator. > > Same here. > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ke9v at mac.com Sat Sep 26 23:27:48 2020 From: ke9v at mac.com (Jeff Davis) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:27:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Connection Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <412BB1BC-315E-4461-93C5-2904FB0A608E@mac.com> Thanks for all the helpful replies. Much appreciated. I?m going to assemble something with a switch and will incorporate a few of the ideas shared. When it?s done I?ll share it here. Thanks again! 73 Jeff KE9V > On Sep 26, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > LMR400 routed into the shack to the main transceiver. Curious how others have implemented a semi-elegant solution for using these antennas with FCD+ or other dongle requiring an SMA connection. > > I know how to do it clumsily, I?m interested in learning how you're doing that nicely? From kd4iz at frawg.org Sun Sep 27 00:03:12 2020 From: kd4iz at frawg.org (kd4iz at frawg.org) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:03:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-271 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <001d01d69461$985823a0$c9086ae0$@frawg.org> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-271 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun- icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans In this edition: * 2020 Virtual AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting * Reminder: Current AMSAT Journal is available on Member Portal * AMSAT-DL Online Symposium * AMSAT-UK Convention * ARRL LOTW new user guide * AMSAT Field Day Results for 2020 have been posted * ARISS News * Upcoming Satellite Operations * Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-271.01 ANS-271 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 271.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE 2020 September 27 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-271.01 2020 Virtual AMSAT Space Symposium Announcement: The 2020 Virtual AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting will be held on Saturday, October 17th from 9:00am CDT - 5:00pm CDT (UTC -5). Symposium presentations will be a combination of pre-recorded video segments along with a question and answer sessions held via a Zoom meeting. The Symposium will be made available for free live on AMSAT's YouTube channel. Registered attendees will receive a digital copy of the AMSAT Symposium Proceedings and will be entitled to join the Zoom meeting. Only registered attendees will be able to participate in the question and answer sessions. Registered attendees will also be entered into prize drawings. Registration is free and available only for AMSAT members. Registration will close on Friday, October 16th at 5:00pm CDT. Proposals for papers and Symposium presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible. Final papers for the Symposium Proceedings must be submitted by October 5, 2020 to Dan Schultz, N8FGV, n8fgv at usa.net. Symposium presentations should be limited to 15 minutes of pre-recorded video. Video presentations must be submitted by October 10, 2020 to Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, n8hm at arrl.net. We ask that presenters be available to take questions via Zoom immediately following the airing of their pre-recorded video. Tentative Schedule 9:00am CDT Opening Remarks 9:15am CDT - 12:45pm CDT General Presentations 1:00pm CDT - 2:00pm CDT AMSAT Education / CubeSat Simulator 2:00pm CDT - 3:00pm CDT ARISS / AREx update 3:00pm CDT - 4:00pm CDT AMSAT Engineering 4:00pm CDT - 5:00pm CDT 2020 AMSAT Annual General Meeting (ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR, AMSAT Events page manager for the above information) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Reminder: July/August AMSAT Journal Is Available on Member Portal Due to COVID-19, the July/August 2020 issue of The AMSAT Journal will only be available to members on AMSAT's Member Portal. Please visit launch.amsat.org to view/download your copy today. The AMSAT Journal is a bi-monthly magazine for amateur radio in space enthusiasts, published by the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT). Each issue is your source for hardware and software projects, technical tips, STEM initiatives, operational activities, and news from around the world. Inside the Current Issue Engineering Update, Jerry Buxton N0JY User Services Update, Robert Bankston KE4AL Treasurer's Report, Robert Bankston KE4AL Educational Relations Update, Alan Johnston KU2Y AMSAT Field Day 2020, Bruce Paige KK5DO For Beginners - Amateur Radio Satellite Primer VI, Keith Baker KB1SF/VE2KSF Satellite Cyber Threats, Omar ?lvarez-C?rdenas XE1AO; Miguel A. Garc?a-Ruiz VE3BKM; Margarita G. MayoralBaldivia XE1BMG; Ra?l T. Aquino-Santos (SWL) Integration of a Distributed Ground Station Network, M.A.Mendoza- B?rcenas (SWL); Rafael Prieto-Mel?ndez (SWL); Alejandro Padr?n- God?nez (SWL); Gerardo Calva-Olmos (SWL), Omar ?lvarez-C?rdenas XE1AO; Margarita G. Mayoral-Baldivia XE1BMG; Alfonso TamezRod- r?guez . XE2O Satellite Antenna Tracking Using Goto Telescope Mounts, Dwayne Sinclair . NA6US [ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office is closed until further notice. For details, please visit https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ AMSAT-UK Convention Announcement: The Online AMSAT-UK Convention takes place on Sunday, October 11, from 11am BST (10:00 GMT) to approximately 5pm, with a break for lunch, and several short breaks during the day. You don't have to be a member of AMSAT-UK to participate, and the event is free of charge but please register ASAP. A number of interesting talks and demonstrations are planned including a talk on the Lunar Amateur Radio Transponder project (LUNART). A draft schedule of the day's events may be downloaded from: https://bit.ly/35ZsOCg Please register online at http://tinyurl.com/amsatukreg2020 [ANS thanks Trevor Essex, M5AKA & AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-DL Symposium Announcement: AMSAT-DL have announced this year's Symposium on Saturday, September 26, will be streamed live on YouTube and most of the lectures will be in English to cater for an international audience. Mattias, DD1US reports: "Instead, we will broadcast the symposium as an "online" meeting in DATV via the broadband transponder of QO-100 and on the Internet on the YouTube channel of AMSAT-DL at: https://www.youtube.com/user/amsatdl Announced sessions will include presentations on Lunar Amateur Radio Transponder project (LUNART) and several sessions focused on QO-100 usage and modes of operation. The current schedule can be found on the AMSAT-DL homepage at: https://amsat-dl.org/en/ [ANS thanks Matthias Bopp, DD1US & AMSAT-DL for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows, and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space. https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ New User guide for ARRL LOTW: A guide for beginner LOTW users has been released by Gary, ZL2IFB. Gary pulled together a team of contributors who assisted him on the project. The 33 page guide was written with the new user in mind, but contains many tips and explanations that veteran users will find useful as well. The guide may be downloaeded from: https://www.g4ifb.com/LoTW_New_User_Guide.pdf [ANS thanks Gary, ZL4IFB for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Field Day Results for 2020 have been posted: Bruce Paige, KK5DO has posted the AMSAT Field Day 2020 results on the AMSAT web site. A direct link to the results page is: https://www.amsat.org/field-day-2020-results/ Alternatively, it is possible to navigate to the page by clicking on Events, Field Day and Field Day 2020 Results. [ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests & Awards and AMSAT Board Member for the above information] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Want to fly the colors on your own grid expedition? Get your AMSAT car flag and other neat stuff from our Zazzle store! 25% of the purchase price of each product goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ ARISS NEWS Amateurs and others around the world may listen in on contacts between amateurs operating in schools and allowing students to interact with astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the International Space Station. The downlink frequency on which to listen is 145.800 MHz worldwide. ARISS NEWS Amateurs and others around the world may listen in on contacts between amateurs operating in schools and allowing students to interact with astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the International Space Station. The downlink frequency on which to listen is 145.800 MHz worldwide. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-21 19:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Turkish State Meteorological Service Mehmet Zakir Ekni High School, Yenimahalle, Turkey Kuyuba?i ?ehit O?uzhan Duyar Secondary School, Ke?i?ren, Turkey Ted Ankara College Foundation High School, G?lba??, Turkey Maya Anatolian High School, G?lba??, Turkey Direct via TC2TSC The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Tue 2020-09-29 12:35:08 UTC 78 deg (***) There is a new radio on board the ISS. The Kenwood D710GA is now in use. The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts. The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down. Watch the Doppler on the downlink. ************************************************* ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general. As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts. As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates. Postponed: No new schools have been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19: The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. [ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N, one of the ARISS operation team men- tors for the above information] ARISS Europe announcement: Possible SSTV Events Slow Scan TV (SSTV) transmissions will probably occur from the Internat- ional Space Station (ISS) next week. Possible times: Wed 2020-09-30 13:05 UTC to 18:45 UTC Thu 2020-10-01 12:30 UTC to 17:40 UTC Images will be downlinked at 145.8 MHz and the expected SSTV mode of operation is PD 120. Radio enthusiasts participating in the event can post and view images on the ARISS SSTV Gallery at: https://www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/ [ANS thanks Gaston Bertels, ON4WF of ARISS Europe for the above information and JoAnn Maenpaa, K9JKM for the relay] +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur radio package, including two-way communication capability, to be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit. Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/ +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Upcoming Satellite Operations Upcoming Roves: Quick Hits: FK67, NP3V, 9/26: Saturday 26 NP3V - Luis will be activating grid FK67 again. Activation will be on AO-91, SO-50 and IO-86 all FM. DM35, DM36 and DM45: @K7TAB 9/23 - 10/1 ish: I will be camping in DM35 and will operate from there occasionally over the next 8-10 days. I will also activate DM36 at some point, probably early to middle of next week. I will also be very near DM45, so Sats & SOTA may happen again! EN10, @K0JM, 9/25: K0JM possibly EN10 for one or two FM passes on Friday morning, strictly holiday style, as circumstances permit. CN76/77 10/3 and 10/4 @AD0DX Just booked tickets for beautiful Ocean Shores, WA. CN76/CN77 grid line Sat Oct 3 approx 0000z to Sun Oct 4th approx 1700z, pass details closer to the trip EL Grids, @N1PEB 10/10 -10-14: 10/10 EL95 Key Largo, 10/11 EL94 Key West, 10/12 EL84 Dry Tortuga, 10/13 EL94 Key West, 10/14 TBD Major Roves: Beginning this Saturday, 19 Sept thru Friday, 25 Sept, @kylee_ke0wpa and @ND0C will be doing some holiday roving in several Iowa grids: EN11, EN12, EN20, EN21, EN22 and EN30 - some lines. None of them are particul- arly rare, but we'll be there nevertheless. Operation will be limited by work commitments and family activities, but we will focus on AO-91 and SO-50 and maybe some linears. Hope to turn a few grids green for some folks. Please play nice, i.e. no blind calls, no stomping and allow the QSOs to be completed! **** Postponed ******* DL88: Ron (@AD0DX) and Doug (@N6UA) are making another run at the elusive DL88 in Big Bend National Park, TX. As we know they tried this grid back in March, and due to the mud couldn't get to the grid, so never ones to quit, off they go again. Today the tent- ative date is Monday July 6th, 2020. They will be using the K5Z call sign. More information is available at the K5Z QRZ Page. [ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR, AMSAT rover page manager, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events Clint Bradford, K6LCS will give his "Work the FM Voice Satellites With Minimal Equipment" Zoom presentation on the following dates for: 10/27/2020 - Cherryland ARC / Traverse Bay ARC Additional presentations are in the planning stage: TBD - Antelope Valley (CA) ARC and a private presentation for a Boy Scout troop in Danville, Pennsylvania Club Groups are asked to update their copies of the Zoom application prior to the scheduled session by directly downloading it from https://zoom.us/ [ANS thanks Clint Bradford, K6CLS for the above information] RSGB 2020 Convention - antenna modelling and ionoscatter During the online RSGB 2020 Convention, you will be able to enjoy some excellent lectures. On Saturday, 10 October 2020, the RSGB will be presenting two online streams for everyone to enjoy. Highlights will be "Antenna Modelling With MMANA-GAL with Steve Nichols, G0KYA and Palle, OZ1RH will look at Ionoscatter on 50 and 144MHz. Information is available at https://rsgb.org.uk/convention. [ANS thanks the RSGB GB2RS News for the above information] AMSAT-DL has been live streaming this year's AMSAT-DL Symposium. Details on the Internet on the YouTube channel of AMSAT-DL at: https://www.youtube.com/user/amsatdl Editor's Note: we are not aware if the YouTube presentations will be available after the Symposium. [ANS thanks Matthias Bopp, DD1US & AMSAT-DL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + NASA officials released a nearly five-year, $28 billion plan Monday to return astronauts to the surface of the moon before the end of 2024, but the agency's administrator said the "aggressive" timeline set by the Trump administration last year hinges on Congress approv- ing $3.2 billion in the next few months to kick-start development of new human-rated lunar landers. (ANS thanks Spaceflight Now for the above information) + Astronauts on the International Space Station carried out an "avoid- ance maneuver" on September 22 to ensure they would not be hit by a piece of debris, said NASA, urging better management of objects in Earth's orbit. Russian and US flight controllers worked together dur- ing a two-and-a-half-minute operation to adjust the station's orbit and move further away, avoiding collision. [Such maneuvers usually mean that Keps for ISS must be updated -- Ed.] (ANS thanks Space Daily for the above information) + A solid-fueled Long March 11 launcher delivered nine small Chinese Earth observation satellites to orbit on September 15 after firing off a ship positioned in the Yellow Sea. Unfortunately, the payload did NOT include the CAS-7 satellites amateurs have been anticipating. That launch is still pending. (ANS thanks Spaceflight Now for the above information) + Sept. 22 Spaceflight Now published an updated general launch schedule: Updating time for Delta 4-Heavy/NROL-44; Adding date and time for Falcon 9/Starlink 12; Electron/STP-27RM delayed; Falcon 9/GPS 3 SV04 moved forward; Adding date for Falcon 9/SpaceX CRS 21; Adding date for Falcon 9/Turksat 5A; Adding date for Falcon 9/Transporter 1; Atlas 5/CST-100 Starliner Orbital Flight Test 2 delayed. Details at: https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/ (ANS thanks Spaceflight Now for the above information) + Sept. 24 Blue Origin scrubbed a test of NASA landing system hardware on the latest New Shepard flight Additional Additional information may be found at: https://bit.ly/3hYWSQX (ANS thanks NASA's spaceflight.com for the above information) --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73 and Remember to help keep amateur radio in space, This week's ANS Editor, Jack Spitznagel, KD4IZ kd4iz at amsat dot org From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Sep 27 01:01:43 2020 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1368246626.68818.1601168503416@connect.xfinity.com> cable experts > On 09/26/2020 1:55 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. > Thanks for help. > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From curt.laumann at gmail.com Sun Sep 27 06:47:12 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:47:12 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are you interested in a 70 cm ParaLindy kit? Message-ID: Hi All, Learning about a well-established parametric Lindenblad design, adding on to it a bit, along with manufacturing and building (and using!) this version of a Lindenblad antenna was really a joy over the last couple months. I believe other satellite enthusiasts might enjoy building it too, but possibly the 3D printing is not a keen interest. Not to make any profit but really just to share, I'm considering offering a kit as described below. Assembling this kit would result in four parametric elements that bolt onto the aluminum dipole described in the AMSAT article by AA2TX. (article available in a Google share folder; see link below) The proposed cost of the kit would be $42.53, shipped via USPS to CONUS. A list of kit contents and costs is shown below. If you're interested in this kit, please drop me a note to k7zoo at arrl.net If there is sufficient interest, I'll put together a limited number of kits and ship them out. (It's not my intent to go into the antenna business, but just to share a bit!) As an alternate approach: please note there are commercial 3D printing services from which you can order 3D parts. Regards, Curt / K7ZOO *LINK TO DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE ANTENNA* https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15BXhG_1jJZcUSbdn8j4leHhwdGFLSOZq?usp=sharing *DETAILS OF PARTS IN THE KIT* K7ZOO 3D Printed ParaLindy Support PETG printed support structure for parasitic elements in AA2TX Lindenblad antenna. Price is driven by cost of material & printer maintenance. Bulk material cost for 1 kilogram of PETG is approx. $25. The piece is 132 grams. Cost of material in this part: $3.30. Estimate a little more to support printer maintenance. $7.50 Arrow Shafts Size 2219, length 11.75 $3.62 each, $14.48 for a set of four. $14.48 Rubber End Caps McMaster PN 9753K16. 10 each (8 needed + 2 spares) $1.50 Modeling Clay 25 grams of clay. Used to hold arrows and seal against resin leaking during bonding operation. $1.00 Packing Material Bubble wrap and/or packing peanuts. $3.00 Shipping USPS large flat-rate box $15.05 TOTAL $42.53 From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Sun Sep 27 13:00:24 2020 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:00:24 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Coax Sources Message-ID: MANY THANKS to all that responded to my coax question. Now, does anyone know where I can find a MONEY TREE? 73, Jerry AB5R From wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc Sun Sep 27 13:08:52 2020 From: wb1fj-bb at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:08:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: <1368246626.68818.1601168503416@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1368246626.68818.1601168503416@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: No reason not to ask, although you might well get a lot of answers :-) I have gotten cable from Shireen and found it to be fine, although if it matters to you, you should be aware that it is not actually Times Microwave cable. While it is their own brand, the specs are the same. I have also gotten cable from MPD Digital, website usacoax.com, who does sell custom-length and custom-connector Time-Microwave cable of all sizes. Last time I looked, the prices were not hugely different; both have been reasonably fast to fulfill, and cables from both seem to be of good quality; some of Shireen's are still in use after having been outside (in a PVC pipe) for 7 years or so. MPD does sell some pre-made cables through Amazon FWIW. 73, Burns WB1FJ On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:47 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > cable experts > > On 09/26/2020 1:55 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > > > > I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their > best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and > PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. > > Thanks for help. > > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb2ysi at gmail.com Sun Sep 27 12:19:22 2020 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:19:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I bought LMR240UF jumpers from h abrind.com when I started working satellites, and they are still in working order. It appears they have LMR400UF as well. On Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 17:04 Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their > best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and > PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. > Thanks for help. > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From straarup at gmail.com Sun Sep 27 16:55:52 2020 From: straarup at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren_Straarup?=) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:55:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gerald, Why 75' of ultra flex? I would you flex over the rotator, then the normal non-flex for the long stretch.. lower loss and often cheaper. Vy 73 de AK4WQ/ OZ2DAK, Soren Straarup On Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 16:04 Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I may be opening Pandora's Box, but I would like to ask the BB for their > best source(s) for LMR400UF cable. I will need two cables (N to N and > PL259 to PL259) approx. 75 ft. long. > Thanks for help. > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zmetzing at pobox.com Sun Sep 27 16:38:11 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:38:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sources for LMR400UF In-Reply-To: References: <1368246626.68818.1601168503416@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: On 09/27/20 08:08, Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB wrote: > No reason not to ask, although you might well get a lot of answers :-) <..> > MPD does sell some pre-made cables through Amazon FWIW. One more to add to the list: https://smile.amazon.com/Wilson-Electronics-WILSON-400-N-Male-952375/dp/B0018PUC2C The coax is not LMR, but the measurements done by other buyers seem to indicate that it is nearly identical. Good enough for 75% of the price, plus connectors! The termination and connectors are high-quality, comparable to Amphenol. This cable is made/assembled in the U.S. of A. --- Zach N0ZGO From ks1g04 at gmail.com Sun Sep 27 21:18:25 2020 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:18:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 27th Birthday, AO-27 Message-ID: Happy 27th birthday to AMRAD-Oscar 27, still alive and operating today! For an amateur radio satellite operator in the early 1990s, working on a satellite project based on the AMSAT Microsat design was a dream job! The hams on the team (including Dino Lorenzini, Mark Kanawati, Steve Greene and Mike Wyrick) couldn't help but include an amateur radio payload, and were successful with the help of fellow amateurs and the local Vienna, Virginia Amateur Research and Development (AMRAD) group: Paul Renaldo, Andre Castillot, Dave Rogers, Glenn Baumgartner, Sandy Sanders, Matt Butcher, Randy Mays, and Terry Fox, and with help from AMSAT?s Lyle Johnson, Chuck Green, and Jim White, among many others. EYESAT-1/AO-27 launched (with the amateur payload and an extra UHF antenna for the downlink) at 0145 UTC September 26, 1993. [Ariane-4 V59 also launched amateur satellites KO-25, IO-26, and PO-28, SSTL?s Healthsat-2, the Stella research satellite, and the Spot-3 earth observation satellite.] The satellite was commanded on during the next orbit and the first QSO on the amateur payload was made the following morning on September 27, 1993. (We think ? does anyone have an archive of amsat-bb emails from 1993 who can check?) AO-27 was the first FM ?bent pipe? satellite and proved to be easy to work with a strong downlink and sensitive receiver. The amateur FM repeater has served many Hams worldwide and was one of the first ?Easy Sats?. AO-27 was later used for the first successful D-Star mode satellite QSO. The 800km orbit provides continent-spanning coverage. At least one station is known to have worked 49 states solely via AO-27! And here we are today, the 27th of September, 2020, celebrating the 27th birthday of AO-27! Thanks to Mike Wyrick N3UC who babysat the spacecraft for the last 27 years. And thanks to all those who helped. There are many untold stories and photos we hope to share in the near future. Current information on AO-27?s operating schedule is at www.ao27.net 73 Mark, Mike, Steve (N4TPY, N3UC, KS1G) From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Mon Sep 28 12:45:33 2020 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Yono Adisoemarta) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 19:45:33 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 5 years of IO-86 satellite References: Message-ID: Today is the celebration of 5 years of flawless operation of IO-86 satellite. This satellite has performed in at least 3 emergency communications from disaster area in Indonesia, and has been a breeding ground for close to 100 new Indonesian amsat operators. Yesterday we?ve concluded a 3-day event to celebrate this huge milestone thru a VR and APRS qso party. Please remember this satellite was designed for portable (HT with handheld yagi / elk antenna) ops, so please refrain of using high power in accessing IO-86. 73 de Yono - YD0NXX AMSAT-ID Technical Team IO-86 design team Sent from my iPhone From paulopv8dx at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 17:22:57 2020 From: paulopv8dx at gmail.com (Paulo PV8DX) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:22:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 5 years of IO-86 satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Yono Congratulations LAPAN has also helped us in the teaching / learning process. Sometimes the principal of school here in my city requested. The LAPAN team has always responded positively to requests. Appreciated for STEM development. Long live LAPAN. Thanks for attention 73? de Paulo PV8DX Em 28/09/2020 08:45, Yono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB escreveu: > Today is the celebration of 5 years of flawless operation of IO-86 satellite. > This satellite has performed in at least 3 emergency communications from disaster area in Indonesia, and has been a breeding ground for close to 100 new Indonesian amsat operators. > > Yesterday we?ve concluded a 3-day event to celebrate this huge milestone thru a VR and APRS qso party. > > Please remember this satellite was designed for portable (HT with handheld yagi / elk antenna) ops, so please refrain of using high power in accessing IO-86. From aj9n at aol.com Mon Sep 28 17:22:42 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-28 17:30 UTC References: <1005486750.1543606.1601313762895.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1005486750.1543606.1601313762895@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-28 17:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Sorry gang about the late information but ARISS just got confirmation today that this contact is go. No word yet if it was successful. (***) About Gagarin From Space Radio Amateur Session With Students Of The International Aerospace School At Amgu Blagoveshchensk, Amur State University, Blagoveshchensk, Russia direct via RK?J (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Anatoli Ivanishin (***) Contact is go for 2020-09-28 08:48 UTC deg (***) ? McConnell Middle School, Loganville, GA, multi-point telebridge via ON4ISS (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Contact is go for: Wed 2020-10-07 14:15:55 UTC 82 deg (***) ? RO-SAT One, Piatra-Neam?, Romania, direct via YR?ISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy Contact is go for: Fri 2020-10-09 11:07:49 UTC 49 deg (***) ? ? SSTV from MAI (Moscow Aviation Institute) (***) Wed 2020-09-30 13:05 UTC to 18:45 UTC Thu 2020-10-01 12:30 UTC to 17:40 UTC ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-28 17:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. ?Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1399. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1332. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Sep 28 18:46:31 2020 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 18:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Special Bulletin References: <200055551.1590494.1601318791603.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200055551.1590494.1601318791603@mail.yahoo.com> A Moscow Aviation Institute MAI-75 SSTV Experiment event is planned for Wednesday, September 30 starting 13:05 UTC to 18:45 UTC and Thursday, October 1, starting at 12:30 UTC to 17:45 UTC. Listen for Slow Scan TV (SSTV) signals to be downlinked at 145.800 MHz +/- Doppler. The mode is expected to be PD 120. Received images of reasonable quality can be posted at the ARISS SSTV Gallery at https://www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/ Dave, AA4KNARISS PR From john at papays.com Mon Sep 28 20:31:38 2020 From: john at papays.com (john at papays.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:31:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results Message-ID: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> It was unfortunate that the election results were not released in a separate message on the amsat-bb. The mistake was explained by Mark Johns, K0JM, and is totally understandable. Putting out a weekly or monthly newsletter is a lot of work and those who have done it here or elsewhere know how much effort it takes. So hats off to those who do this for AMSAT. There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election results themselves and that is what really matters. About 57% of the votes were for the three candidates who campaigned on staying the course. 43% of the votes wanted a change of some sort. So the organization is divided, but how serious the divide remains to be seen. Although they were not on the ballot, In some ways the election was a referendum on Patrick and Michelle who have made their positions known to the membership that has been paying attention. Now that they did not pick up any support from the election, will they continue to serve? And if they choose not to serve, will the alternates (who wanted change also) feel that they would be able to contribute in a meaningful way? As Kenny Rogers once said, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run." Some members have already announced their intentions not to serve in various ways and for various reasons. Others may follow. The Symposium and associated Board Meeting coming up soon may provide some answers as to the future direction of AMSAT. We will wait and see how it all turns out. 73, John K8YSE From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Sep 28 21:21:31 2020 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:21:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results (diasppointing) In-Reply-To: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> References: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> Message-ID: I am disappointed to learn of these results. I thought the new progressive group was headed in the right direction. Satellite research takes money and there is lots of it out there! I just retired from a "university" where I found it fun to try to build amateur satellites with available project funding. But My fun was building them, not trying to figure out how to pay for them. I was getting by on maybe a $10k per year budget. But then more academic faculty came on board. They spent their time looking for grants and money and writing proposals and we were swimming in so much money we did not have the resources to spend it! For a guy who likes to build a cubesat on a table top,, I could not possibly spend even a fraction of it. BUT THEY WERE leading in the right direction. They showed how there is so much money out there that if you just direct your interests and proposals correctly there is plenty to go around and to cover the amateur interests as well. I learned the lesson that academics is all about making proposals and getting BIG bucks to do things that meet your mutual interests. That is the only way AMSAT can survive is to have those people on the leading edge and making proposals where AMSAT and other interests overlap. I really ignored all the AMSAT BB arguing going on, because I thought it was obvious that the progressives were on the right track and the status quo was just holding us back. I am shocked to see the progressives lost. Bob, WB4APR On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM john--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > It was unfortunate that the election results were not released in a > separate message on the amsat-bb. The mistake was explained by Mark > Johns, K0JM, and is totally understandable. Putting out a weekly or > monthly newsletter is a lot of work and those who have done it here or > elsewhere know how much effort it takes. So hats off to those who do > this for AMSAT. > > There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election > results themselves and that is what really matters. About 57% of the > votes were for the three candidates who campaigned on staying the > course. 43% of the votes wanted a change of some sort. So the > organization is divided, but how serious the divide remains to be seen. > > > Although they were not on the ballot, In some ways the election was a > referendum on Patrick and Michelle who have made their positions known > to the membership that has been paying attention. Now that they did not > pick up any support from the election, will they continue to serve? And > if they choose not to serve, will the alternates (who wanted change > also) feel that they would be able to contribute in a meaningful way? > As Kenny Rogers once said, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know > when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run." Some > members have already announced their intentions not to serve in various > ways and for various reasons. Others may follow. > > The Symposium and associated Board Meeting coming up soon may provide > some answers as to the future direction of AMSAT. We will wait and see > how it all turns out. > > 73, John K8YSE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zmetzing at pobox.com Mon Sep 28 21:25:54 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:25:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results In-Reply-To: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> References: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> Message-ID: On 09/28/20 15:31, john--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election > results themselves and that is what really matters. John, I, speaking only for myself, don't want that to start on this list. The vote is over. The membership has spoken. If someone wants to run during the next election, now is the time to demonstrate and exemplify being a leader. That person will gather support, and that support could carry them onto the board during the next cycle. If you don't want to be part of AMSAT, there appears to be at least one other alternative (ORI). I suspect, in time, ORI will have some of the same discussions/debates/arguments/mudslinging on their list. History has a knack for repeating itself. We're here to design, build, and/or operate satellites, and I hope we get back to that. 73, --- Zach N0ZGO From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 23:12:20 2020 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 19:12:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results In-Reply-To: References: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> Message-ID: I understand your not wanting discussion not related to engineering or operations on this list, but there is nothing against the rules about discussing the election or any other internal AMSAT issues on this list. If you think there should be a rule against it or it should be moved somewhere else, you should make a serious argument for it in another thread or take it up with the org in some other serious way. I personally think this discussion is critical to AMSAT's ability to function well, or at least change in positive ways. I also think the list has been managed well through this, which is a compliment to the incumbents considering this is mostly about things others wish the incumbents did differently. To me it is democratic, a sign of free speech, or other similar values. I hope we can all try to uphold these types of values within this community. 73, John Brier KG4AKV P.S. You can campaign lots of ways. Yes by doing things that aren't resisted... But what about things that are resisted? Then you are forced to criticize the resistance, and those that resist can make their case as to why their resistance is legitimate, and back and forth until the situation resolves itself. That is how change happens, or doesn't. But you can't justify your resistance by just saying no louder. P.P.S. Please don't say what "we" are here for without specifying exactly who we is because I am not here only for that. I care about what kinds of satellites are built, what functions they have, and how and why they are commanded to do certain things. All that affects how I am able to interact with them from the ground. Since I am not designing, building, or commanding them, discussion with the people who are, or the people they are directed by is my only way of affecting what is put in space. For my part I provide financial support while trying to welcome and support new sat ops who bring in their own financial resources. All hams who use sats need designers and builders like you. You all are doing the most technical work that many of us can't do. I am grateful and I think those of us who don't design and build but just use, are grateful too. I need you but I think you need me and those of us who don't design or build as well because this is an expensive hobby in sum. We have to work together. P.P.P.S. Thanks for reading. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 17:29 Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote: > On 09/28/20 15:31, john--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election > > results themselves and that is what really matters. > > John, > > I, speaking only for myself, don't want that to start on this list. > > The vote is over. The membership has spoken. > > If someone wants to run during the next election, now is the time to > demonstrate and exemplify being a leader. That person will gather > support, and that support could carry them onto the board during the > next cycle. > > If you don't want to be part of AMSAT, there appears to be at least one > other alternative (ORI). I suspect, in time, ORI will have some of the > same discussions/debates/arguments/mudslinging on their list. History > has a knack for repeating itself. > > We're here to design, build, and/or operate satellites, and I hope we > get back to that. > > 73, > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From sjdevience at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 00:18:52 2020 From: sjdevience at gmail.com (Stephen DeVience) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:18:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results (diasppointing) Message-ID: Bob, You make a good point about the money available for academic projects. It seems like there are more and more student- and university-built satellites using amateur frequencies (sometimes questionably), but with no actual transponder or digipeater. Working with them to add a small transponder payload like the LTM or the Brno PSK module could be an easy way to get more bandwidth up there without a lot of overhead cost. I also back your sentiment that AMSAT should consider applying to more grants from places like ARDC and maybe even the NSF or similar. Education is one of its main purposes, and the NSF may be open to it. -Stephen, N8URE From mat_62 at charter.net Mon Sep 28 23:59:32 2020 From: mat_62 at charter.net (Michael Tondee) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 19:59:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The membership has spoken. I don't agree with their decision but that's life. I wish the organization the best. I was ready to move on and pursue some other things and was about to unsubscribe from the list but seeing a post like this where someone of Bob's stature in the hobby expresses his opinion gives me hope all is not lost and makes me want to not be so hasty and quick to judge. I may hang around awhile longer and see what direction the organization takes. 73, Michael, W4HIJ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:21:31 -0400 > From: Robert Bruninga > To: amsat bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Election Results (diasppointing) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I am disappointed to learn of these results. I thought the new progressive > group was headed in the right direction. > > Satellite research takes money and there is lots of it out there! I just > retired from a "university" where I found it fun to try to build amateur > satellites with available project funding. But My fun was building them, > not trying to figure out how to pay for them. I was getting by on maybe a > $10k per year budget. > > But then more academic faculty came on board. They spent their time > looking for grants and money and writing proposals and we were swimming in > so much money we did not have the resources to spend it! For a guy who > likes to build a cubesat on a table top,, I could not possibly spend even a > fraction of it. BUT THEY WERE leading in the right direction. They showed > how there is so much money out there that if you just direct your interests > and proposals correctly there is plenty to go around and to cover the > amateur interests as well. > > I learned the lesson that academics is all about making proposals and > getting BIG bucks to do things that meet your mutual interests. That is > the only way AMSAT can survive is to have those people on the leading edge > and making proposals where AMSAT and other interests overlap. > > I really ignored all the AMSAT BB arguing going on, because I thought it > was obvious that the progressives were on the right track and the status > quo was just holding us back. I am shocked to see the progressives lost. > > Bob, WB4APR > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM john--- via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> It was unfortunate that the election results were not released in a >> separate message on the amsat-bb. The mistake was explained by Mark >> Johns, K0JM, and is totally understandable. Putting out a weekly or >> monthly newsletter is a lot of work and those who have done it here or >> elsewhere know how much effort it takes. So hats off to those who do >> this for AMSAT. >> >> There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election >> results themselves and that is what really matters. About 57% of the >> votes were for the three candidates who campaigned on staying the >> course. 43% of the votes wanted a change of some sort. So the >> organization is divided, but how serious the divide remains to be seen. >> >> >> Although they were not on the ballot, In some ways the election was a >> referendum on Patrick and Michelle who have made their positions known >> to the membership that has been paying attention. Now that they did not >> pick up any support from the election, will they continue to serve? And >> if they choose not to serve, will the alternates (who wanted change >> also) feel that they would be able to contribute in a meaningful way? >> As Kenny Rogers once said, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know >> when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run." Some >> members have already announced their intentions not to serve in various >> ways and for various reasons. Others may follow. >> >> The Symposium and associated Board Meeting coming up soon may provide >> some answers as to the future direction of AMSAT. We will wait and see >> how it all turns out. >> >> 73, John K8YSE >> _______________________________________________ >> > > From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Sep 29 00:34:46 2020 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:34:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's a lot of misconceptions out there that AMSAT is somehow "standing still" or "behind the times." This is all just completely wrong. I would encourage everyone to attend/view the AMSAT Virtual Symposium on October 17th. We're going to have a lot of interesting presentations on all the exciting and cutting edge things that we're working on: GOLF, ARISS/AREx, the CubeSat Simulator, LTM, etc. AMSAT members should also check out the July/August 2020 edition of The AMSAT Journal at launch.amsat.org. Jerry's Engineering Update gives good background on GOLF and an update on GOLF-TEE's progress. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:24 PM Michael Tondee via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > The membership has spoken. I don't agree with their decision but that's > life. I wish the organization the best. I was ready to move on and > pursue some other things and was about to unsubscribe from the list but > seeing a post like this where someone of Bob's stature in the hobby > expresses his opinion gives me hope all is not lost and makes me want to > not be so hasty and quick to judge. I may hang around awhile longer and > see what direction the organization takes. > > 73, > > Michael, W4HIJ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:21:31 -0400 > > From: Robert Bruninga > > To: amsat bb > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Election Results (diasppointing) > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > I am disappointed to learn of these results. I thought the new progressive > > group was headed in the right direction. > > > > Satellite research takes money and there is lots of it out there! I just > > retired from a "university" where I found it fun to try to build amateur > > satellites with available project funding. But My fun was building them, > > not trying to figure out how to pay for them. I was getting by on maybe a > > $10k per year budget. > > > > But then more academic faculty came on board. They spent their time > > looking for grants and money and writing proposals and we were swimming in > > so much money we did not have the resources to spend it! For a guy who > > likes to build a cubesat on a table top,, I could not possibly spend even a > > fraction of it. BUT THEY WERE leading in the right direction. They showed > > how there is so much money out there that if you just direct your interests > > and proposals correctly there is plenty to go around and to cover the > > amateur interests as well. > > > > I learned the lesson that academics is all about making proposals and > > getting BIG bucks to do things that meet your mutual interests. That is > > the only way AMSAT can survive is to have those people on the leading edge > > and making proposals where AMSAT and other interests overlap. > > > > I really ignored all the AMSAT BB arguing going on, because I thought it > > was obvious that the progressives were on the right track and the status > > quo was just holding us back. I am shocked to see the progressives lost. > > > > Bob, WB4APR > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM john--- via AMSAT-BB > > wrote: > > > >> It was unfortunate that the election results were not released in a > >> separate message on the amsat-bb. The mistake was explained by Mark > >> Johns, K0JM, and is totally understandable. Putting out a weekly or > >> monthly newsletter is a lot of work and those who have done it here or > >> elsewhere know how much effort it takes. So hats off to those who do > >> this for AMSAT. > >> > >> There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election > >> results themselves and that is what really matters. About 57% of the > >> votes were for the three candidates who campaigned on staying the > >> course. 43% of the votes wanted a change of some sort. So the > >> organization is divided, but how serious the divide remains to be seen. > >> > >> > >> Although they were not on the ballot, In some ways the election was a > >> referendum on Patrick and Michelle who have made their positions known > >> to the membership that has been paying attention. Now that they did not > >> pick up any support from the election, will they continue to serve? And > >> if they choose not to serve, will the alternates (who wanted change > >> also) feel that they would be able to contribute in a meaningful way? > >> As Kenny Rogers once said, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know > >> when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run." Some > >> members have already announced their intentions not to serve in various > >> ways and for various reasons. Others may follow. > >> > >> The Symposium and associated Board Meeting coming up soon may provide > >> some answers as to the future direction of AMSAT. We will wait and see > >> how it all turns out. > >> > >> 73, John K8YSE > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rhyolite at leikhim.com Mon Sep 28 21:49:35 2020 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:49:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results (diasppointing) Message-ID: <6c0a211e-aab1-4f5c-3415-4bc1b3d3b386@leikhim.com> I am with Bob on this. A month or two back I raised the question * about why we were not getting into HEO and got barraged with the same old excuses from the "old guard" about ITAR, Funding, etc. It was clearly distressing to me as a long time AMSAT member to learn that all the old guard can do is regurgitate the same mantra for 15 years. Meanwhile our friends on the other side of the globe have a GEO sat that anyone with a small amount of funds can use, and with no funds can listen to the downlink on the "internet". Michelle sent me some information about ORI and the "progressive" efforts being made to get past the ITAR logjam. It was not shared with me the funding windfall that was becoming available which should wake folks up now. I voted for the progressive group. I don't see the shortfall in votes as being a "referendum" for the old guard, rather, they need to step up and accept that continuing the defeatist mindset cannot continue. Get on the ball AMSAD BOD!!! * [amsat-bb] GeoSat OSCAR-2024 Positive comments, no whining....(Was need HEO..please..) Joe K4SAT VERY Cautiously optimistic Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:21:31 -0400 From: Robert Bruninga "I am disappointed to learn of these results. I thought the new progressive group was headed in the right direction. Satellite research takes money and there is lots of it out there! I just retired from a "university" where I found it fun to try to build amateur satellites with available project funding. But My fun was building them, not trying to figure out how to pay for them. I was getting by on maybe a $10k per year budget. But then more academic faculty came on board. They spent their time looking for grants and money and writing proposals and we were swimming in so much money we did not have the resources to spend it! For a guy who likes to build a cubesat on a table top,, I could not possibly spend even a fraction of it. BUT THEY WERE leading in the right direction. They showed how there is so much money out there that if you just direct your interests and proposals correctly there is plenty to go around and to cover the amateur interests as well. I learned the lesson that academics is all about making proposals and getting BIG bucks to do things that meet your mutual interests. That is the only way AMSAT can survive is to have those people on the leading edge and making proposals where AMSAT and other interests overlap. I really ignored all the AMSAT BB arguing going on, because I thought it was obvious that the progressives were on the right track and the status quo was just holding us back. I am shocked to see the progressives lost. Bob, WB4APR" -- Joe K4SAT From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Sep 29 02:50:36 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 21:50:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results In-Reply-To: References: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> Message-ID: <3fb07847-1c4c-689a-f12c-1b951f5993c8@pobox.com> On 2020-09-28 18:12, John Brier wrote: > Please don't say what "we" are here for without specifying exactly who > we is because I am not here only for that. I care about what kinds of > satellites are built, what functions they have, and how and why they are > commanded to do certain things. Hello John, Small point of clarification: I should have said "operating via", which would be using them, not commanding them. I should have also avoided the pronoun "we". I do not claim to speak for anyone else. I sincerely wish for a different mailing list which would cover only technical aspects of, news about, and operating via our fleet. I have absolutely no interest in rehashing election results or armchair quarterbacking of the management. It seems to me that AMSAT is making progress. While Fox-1C failed, it is an outlier. Let's all root for a flawless Fox-1D launch and commissioning! Golf-T and Golf-1 look to be great satellites, especially for microwave experimenters. This is my area of interest, and I've already obtained some bits and bobs, as our friends across the pond are fond of saying, for RX on 10GHz. (I've been cleared by the XYL to put a rotator on the shed roof. Hopefully, I'll be able to point antennas at satellites soon!) --- Zach N0ZGO From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Sep 29 02:52:41 2020 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 21:52:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Election Results In-Reply-To: <3fb07847-1c4c-689a-f12c-1b951f5993c8@pobox.com> References: <559eebde6ed8a9a46c39306ae91daf50@papays.com> <3fb07847-1c4c-689a-f12c-1b951f5993c8@pobox.com> Message-ID: <6ac0868d-88dc-9f4a-c1ae-102ac72f3f69@pobox.com> On 2020-09-28 21:50, Zach Metzinger wrote: > an outlier. Let's all root for a flawless Fox-1D launch and commissioning! Correction: Fox-1E (Too late for me to be writing emails.) --- Zach N0ZGO From ke4al at yahoo.com Tue Sep 29 14:01:52 2020 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] EMERGENCY MODERATION MODE References: <2078030422.185054.1601388112422.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2078030422.185054.1601388112422@mail.yahoo.com> The AMSAT-BB is a mailing list to support technical discussions, inquiries, and suggestions related to amateur satellite service.? Its? audience includes both AMSAT members and non-members. At any given time, the readers may also include amateur radio operators, shortwave listeners, minors, potential financial donors, potential launch providers, officials from other amateur radio and satellite organizations, officials from international space agencies, and equipment suppliers and manufacturers. ?? As such, the AMSAT-BB is not a "free speech" zone.? There is prescribed acceptable and unacceptable content.? ?? Due to the continued abuse by some subscribers, I have placed the AMSAT-BB on Emergency Moderation.? Moderators will review each post to ensure it complies with the Acceptable Use Policy.? Those found not to be in compliance will be removed from the list. ?? This will inevitably cause a delay in your messages being posted; however it is essential to ensure a safe and constructive environment.? I apologize for the inconvenience. ?? Respectfully, ?? Robert Bankston, KE4AL Vice-President, User Services Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Tue Sep 29 16:10:47 2020 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:10:47 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program Message-ID: Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. Thanks 73, Jerry AB5R From ariss.w8aas at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 16:45:04 2020 From: ariss.w8aas at gmail.com (Dave Taylor) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:45:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F0A93F4-1A71-4A32-9E9C-3E2FACFEAD33@gmail.com> They are listed as Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. That?s the formal name of AMSAT. Dave W8AAS > On Sep 29, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. > Thanks > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From chibill110 at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 16:43:57 2020 From: chibill110 at gmail.com (Bill Gaylord) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:43:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am pretty sure its called Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation on smile.amazon.com William KD9KCK On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:39 AM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, > but "Amsat" was not found. > Thanks > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Sep 29 16:49:25 2020 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:49:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. > Thanks > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Tue Sep 29 16:55:27 2020 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:55:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007601d69681$5561f900$0025eb00$@mindspring.com> Try Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:11 PM To: amsat-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. Thanks 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at k6ccc.org Tue Sep 29 16:57:58 2020 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 09:57:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 09/29/2020 09:10, Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. > Thanks > I just looked at my setup.? It is listed as: Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From skristof at etczone.com Tue Sep 29 16:58:09 2020 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:58:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16f31fff45e8ac6e4629b026de662274@etczone.com> Look under Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. Steve AI9IN ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb at amsat.org) Date: 09/29/20 12:38 To: amsat-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. ?I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. Thanks 73, Jerry AB5R From k0jm.mark at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 17:07:16 2020 From: k0jm.mark at gmail.com (Mark Johns, K0JM) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:07:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sad Tale of a New Rover Message-ID: I've been at this satellite thing for more than 35 years, so when a family trip took me through some relatively rare grids in Nebraska last week, I thought it would be a great chance to try out my new FT-818 on a rove. Looks like fun, and how hard can it be? Well, this old satellite hand had forgotten many of the skills needed back before I built a capable, computer-controlled station. I didn't practice enough with the new rig at home, I didn't get familiar enough with the location apps, and I assumed too much expertise on the part of the operator. In fact, I couldn't even find the grid line correctly! And on another pass, I couldn't even hear the bird (still working on what happened there). So, moral of the story, sometimes getting out of one's comfort zone and trying something different is a good thing. But doing so requires some humility. Some things are harder than they look, whether it's building and launching a satellite, or just working one from a gravel road in Nebraska. My hat is off to the successful rovers across the nation. And I shall work on (re)learning the necessary basic skills before setting out again. (P.S., if you were one of the stations I worked from the "grid line," the LoTW upload has been corrected. Sorry, it was only EN11.) -- Mark D. Johns, K?JM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From jeff at ke9v.net Tue Sep 29 17:25:48 2020 From: jeff at ke9v.net (Jeff Davis) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 13:25:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Take a look here, the link is listed on this page: https://www.amsat.org/2516/ 73 Jeff KE9V On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, > but "Amsat" was not found. > Thanks > > 73, > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Jeff KE9V From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Tue Sep 29 17:33:59 2020 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 17:33:59 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: THANKS to everyone. especially this one with the link. 73 to ALL Jerry AB5R ________________________________ From: Jeff Davis Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:25 PM To: Gerald Payton Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon's Smile Program Take a look here, the link is listed on this page: https://www.amsat.org/2516/ 73 Jeff KE9V On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB > wrote: Please reiterate HOW to credit Amsat on Amazon's Smile Program. I tried, but "Amsat" was not found. Thanks 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Jeff KE9V From w7lrd at comcast.net Tue Sep 29 18:37:38 2020 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (73 Bob W7LRD) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] EMERGENCY MODERATION MODE In-Reply-To: <2078030422.185054.1601388112422@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2078030422.185054.1601388112422.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2078030422.185054.1601388112422@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <107815501.20900.1601404659089@connect.xfinity.com> thankyou > On 09/29/2020 7:01 AM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > The AMSAT-BB is a mailing list to support technical discussions, inquiries, and suggestions related to amateur satellite service.? Its? audience includes both AMSAT members and non-members. At any given time, the readers may also include amateur radio operators, shortwave listeners, minors, potential financial donors, potential launch providers, officials from other amateur radio and satellite organizations, officials from international space agencies, and equipment suppliers and manufacturers. > ?? > As such, the AMSAT-BB is not a "free speech" zone.? There is prescribed acceptable and unacceptable content.? > ?? > Due to the continued abuse by some subscribers, I have placed the AMSAT-BB on Emergency Moderation.? Moderators will review each post to ensure it complies with the Acceptable Use Policy.? Those found not to be in compliance will be removed from the list. > ?? > This will inevitably cause a delay in your messages being posted; however it is essential to ensure a safe and constructive environment.? I apologize for the inconvenience. > ?? > Respectfully, > ?? > Robert Bankston, KE4AL > Vice-President, User Services > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bryan at kl7cn.net Tue Sep 29 18:40:54 2020 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:40:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sad Tale of a New Rover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2135597B-B0B1-40BD-8A59-2EC05C53FE98@kl7cn.net> Thank you for sharing that, Mark! Anyone who has roved can relate. Keep (re)learning and keep roving! > On Sep 29, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > So, moral of the story, sometimes getting out of one's comfort zone and > trying something different is a good thing. But doing so requires some > humility. Some things are harder than they look, whether it's building > and launching a satellite, or just working one from a gravel road in > Nebraska. My hat is off to the successful rovers across the nation. > And I shall work on (re)learning the necessary basic skills before > setting out again. -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 From n1uw at gokarns.com Tue Sep 29 19:41:22 2020 From: n1uw at gokarns.com (Frank Karnauskas) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:41:22 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sad Tale of a New Rover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000401d69698$837b2750$8a7175f0$@gokarns.com> Wait until you're my age. Everything is new every day so I have to relearn everything...every day! Cheers, Frank Frank Karnauskas, N1UW 1402 Summit Shores Drive Burnsville, MN 55306 N1UW at GoKarns.com 612-644-9174 -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:07 AM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Sad Tale of a New Rover I've been at this satellite thing for more than 35 years, so when a family trip took me through some relatively rare grids in Nebraska last week, I thought it would be a great chance to try out my new FT-818 on a rove. Looks like fun, and how hard can it be? Well, this old satellite hand had forgotten many of the skills needed back before I built a capable, computer-controlled station. I didn't practice enough with the new rig at home, I didn't get familiar enough with the location apps, and I assumed too much expertise on the part of the operator. In fact, I couldn't even find the grid line correctly! And on another pass, I couldn't even hear the bird (still working on what happened there). So, moral of the story, sometimes getting out of one's comfort zone and trying something different is a good thing. But doing so requires some humility. Some things are harder than they look, whether it's building and launching a satellite, or just working one from a gravel road in Nebraska. My hat is off to the successful rovers across the nation. And I shall work on (re)learning the necessary basic skills before setting out again. (P.S., if you were one of the stations I worked from the "grid line," the LoTW upload has been corrected. Sorry, it was only EN11.) -- Mark D. Johns, K?JM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Tue Sep 29 21:07:36 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-29 21:00 UTC References: <363576799.51253.1601413656612.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <363576799.51253.1601413656612@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-29 21:00 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Sorry gang about the late information but ARISS just got confirmation today that this contact is go. No word yet if it was successful. ? About Gagarin From Space Radio Amateur Session With Students Of The International Aerospace School At Amgu Blagoveshchensk, Amur State University, Blagoveshchensk, Russia direct via RK?J The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Anatoli Ivanishin Contact is go for 2020-09-28 08:48 UTC deg ? Vladivostok, Russia, direct via TBD (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Anatoli Ivanishin Watch for possible contact Fri 2020-10-09 08:15 UTC (***) ? RO-SAT One, Piatra-Neam?, Romania, direct via YR?ISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy Contact is go for: Fri 2020-10-09 11:07:49 UTC 49 deg ? ? ? SSTV from MAI (Moscow Aviation Institute) Wed 2020-09-30 13:05 UTC to 18:45 UTC Thu 2020-10-01 12:30 UTC to 17:40 UTC ? ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-29 21:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1399. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1332. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From curt.laumann at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 20:59:46 2020 From: curt.laumann at gmail.com (Curt Laumann) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 13:59:46 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DM36 active Thursday Oct 1 by K7ZOO Message-ID: Hi All, I'm planning to be working satellite passes from DM36 this Thursday, Oct 1, during the afternoon and evening. Please see the link below for a schedule of passes I'll attempt. On the transponder birds I'd prefer to work CW, but will also do some SSB. I'll be about 40 miles SSW of Colorado City, AZ Hope to catch you on the air :) Regards, Curt / K7ZOO https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szF2-wSpscpw20DWbbyYBAWGjSjZyPKY/view?usp=sharing From fgeraci14 at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 20:24:57 2020 From: fgeraci14 at gmail.com (Francis Geraci) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:24:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Amateur Radio Satellite Message-ID: Pretty excited about these "Sats". I "cut my teeth" on the "RS" birds. I still have the "Q" cards to prove it. No computer tracking software then. All by "hand". I'm sure there are many others here that did this also. Fond memories... W1FXX - Lost in Paradise From dquagliana at gmail.com Wed Sep 30 06:29:00 2020 From: dquagliana at gmail.com (Douglas Quagliana) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 01:29:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Did anyone archive Clive's UO-11 website? Or, do you have any of the .zip files? Message-ID: Friends, Clive Wallis, G3CWV, used to maintain a website with lots of UO-11 information, recordings and telemetry. Unfortunately, he became a silent key in 2015. I recently tried to go to Clive's UO-11 website, http://g3cwv.co.uk/oscar11.htm, and discovered that is no longer on the web. I tried the Internet Archive's Wayback machine and found that they had archived most of the HTML pages, but not the zip files with the telemetry and recordings. Did anyone make an archive or a copy of Clive's website? Or, did you ever download and save any of the .zip files with the audio recordings or telemetry? If so, I would like to get copies of the .zip files with the recordings and telemetry. 73, Douglas KA2UPW/5 From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Sep 30 12:55:52 2020 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:55:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sad Tale of a New Rover In-Reply-To: <2135597B-B0B1-40BD-8A59-2EC05C53FE98@kl7cn.net> References: <2135597B-B0B1-40BD-8A59-2EC05C53FE98@kl7cn.net> Message-ID: A big +1 on both posts. More arm chair operators should attempt to make QSO's in the field. They might get an idea of what manual everything entails. Many times on linear birds I have been complained to about not being 100% on frequency. It is always a station sitting in a chair maxing out their level of exertion at pushing a button. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 15:06 Bryan KL7CN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thank you for sharing that, Mark! > > Anyone who has roved can relate. > > Keep (re)learning and keep roving! > > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > > So, moral of the story, sometimes getting out of one's comfort zone and > > trying something different is a good thing. But doing so requires some > > humility. Some things are harder than they look, whether it's building > > and launching a satellite, or just working one from a gravel road in > > Nebraska. My hat is off to the successful rovers across the nation. > > And I shall work on (re)learning the necessary basic skills before > > setting out again. > > -- bag > > Bryan KL7CN/W6 > Location: CM98, usually > E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net > Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ki7unj at gmail.com Wed Sep 30 14:15:35 2020 From: ki7unj at gmail.com (KI7UNJ Tucker) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:15:35 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DM36 active Thursday Oct 1 by K7ZOO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For users looking for ZULU times, click below and then scroll to the bottom and put in your grid to see what common footprint you have https://www.satmatch.com/satellite/CAS-4A,CAS-4B,AO-07,ISS,SO-50,XW-2F,XW-2C,XW-2D,AO-27,AO-73/obs1/DM36?search_start_time=2020-10-01T18:00:00Z&duration_hrs=10 I removed 95 from his list On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:45 PM Curt Laumann via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm planning to be working satellite passes from DM36 this Thursday, Oct 1, > during the afternoon and evening. Please see the link below for a schedule > of passes I'll attempt. On the transponder birds I'd prefer to work CW, > but will also do some SSB. I'll be about 40 miles SSW of Colorado City, > AZ > > Hope to catch you on the air :) > > Regards, > > Curt / K7ZOO > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szF2-wSpscpw20DWbbyYBAWGjSjZyPKY/view?usp=sharing > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- *Casey Tucker KI7UNJ* https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ From aj9n at aol.com Wed Sep 30 19:43:38 2020 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 19:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-30 19:30 UTC References: <947857235.420914.1601495018031.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <947857235.420914.1601495018031@mail.yahoo.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-30 19:30 UTC ? Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Sorry gang about the late information but ARISS just got confirmation today that this contact is go. No word yet if it was successful. ? About Gagarin From Space Radio Amateur Session With Students Of The International Aerospace School At Amgu Blagoveshchensk, Amur State University, Blagoveshchensk, Russia direct via RK?J The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Anatoli Ivanishin Contact is go for 2020-09-28 08:48 UTC deg ? Vladivostok, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Anatoli Ivanishin Watch for possible contact Fri 2020-10-09 08:15 UTC ? RO-SAT One, Piatra-Neam?, Romania, direct via YR?ISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy Contact is go for: Fri 2020-10-09 11:07:49 UTC 49 deg ? ? ? SSTV from MAI (Moscow Aviation Institute) Wed 2020-09-30 13:05 UTC to 18:45 UTC Thu 2020-10-01 12:30 UTC to 17:40 UTC ? ? ************************************************************************************************************* ? ? There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.? The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for ARISS school contacts.? ? The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the Doppler on the downlink.? ? ? ######################################################################################################################################## ? A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. ************************************************* ? ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates.? ? The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:? ? Postponed: No new schools ? Cancelled: No new schools ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? ? Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also. ? ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? ? Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS ? The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-30 19:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. ? https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ? ? The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-18 17:30 UTC. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ? ? ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ??? ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ??? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? ? Message to US Educators ? ARISS Contact Applications (United States) ? The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed. ? For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. ? Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education at gmail.com. ? About ARISS: ? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. ? ******************************************************************************** ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) ? Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email to:? school.selection.manager at ariss-eu.org ? ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) ? Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. ? For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd at gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss at iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ ? Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. ? **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts.? ? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.???????????? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ? ? The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ ? ? **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: ? Francesco IK?WGF with 140 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138 Sergey RV3DR with 135 Gaston ON4WF with 123 ? **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. ? ? ? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1399. Each school counts as 1 event.?????????????????????????????????? Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1332. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. ? A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf ? Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ? ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS ? **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts ? https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** ? Exp. 62 now on orbit Chris Cassidy KF5KDR Anatoli Ivanishin Ivan Vagner **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From bryan at kl7cn.net Wed Sep 30 21:15:30 2020 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:15:30 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sad Tale of a New Rover In-Reply-To: References: <2135597B-B0B1-40BD-8A59-2EC05C53FE98@kl7cn.net> Message-ID: I have encountered the same comments -- and sometimes they do sound like complaints but not terribly often -- when operating full manual for Doppler correction while holding and rotating an antenna for manual tracking. It's a real hot mess out there for me sometimes. Many more times, and usually from the most avid rovers and experienced operators, I have encountered patience and special "voice cadence" recognition of my callsign when I am a bit more than a little off frequency. It takes resilience for everyone. That combined with aligning all the technical elements of a successful satellite QSO are what make it so fun to me! Hooray Amateur Satellites! -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Sep 30, 2020, at 5:55 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > > A big +1 on both posts. > > More arm chair operators should attempt to make QSO's in the field. They might get an idea of what manual everything entails. > > Many times on linear birds I have been complained to about not being 100% on frequency. It is always a station sitting in a chair maxing out their level of exertion at pushing a button. > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 15:06 Bryan KL7CN via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thank you for sharing that, Mark! > > Anyone who has roved can relate. > > Keep (re)learning and keep roving! > > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Mark Johns, K0JM via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > > So, moral of the story, sometimes getting out of one's comfort zone and > > trying something different is a good thing. But doing so requires some > > humility. Some things are harder than they look, whether it's building > > and launching a satellite, or just working one from a gravel road in > > Nebraska. My hat is off to the successful rovers across the nation. > > And I shall work on (re)learning the necessary basic skills before > > setting out again. > > -- bag > > Bryan KL7CN/W6 > Location: CM98, usually > E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net > Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb