[amsat-bb] Election Results

[John Brier]

I understand your not wanting discussion not related to engineering or
operations on this list, but there is nothing against the rules about
discussing the election or any other internal AMSAT issues on this list.

If you think there should be a rule against it or it should be moved
somewhere else, you should make a serious argument for it in another thread
or take it up with the org in some other serious way.

I personally think this discussion is critical to AMSAT's ability to
function well, or at least change in positive ways.

I also think the list has been managed well through this, which is a
compliment to the incumbents considering this is mostly about things others
wish the incumbents did differently.

To me it is democratic, a sign of free speech, or other similar values. I
hope we can all try to uphold these types of values within this community.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

P.S.
You can campaign lots of ways. Yes by doing things that aren't resisted...
But what about things that are resisted? Then you are forced to criticize
the resistance, and those that resist can make their case as to why their
resistance is legitimate, and back and forth until the situation resolves
itself. That is how change happens, or doesn't. But you can't justify your
resistance by just saying no louder.

P.P.S.

Please don't say what "we" are here for without specifying exactly who we
is because I am not here only for that. I care about what kinds of
satellites are built, what functions they have, and how and why they are
commanded to do certain things.

All that affects how I am able to interact with them from the ground. Since
I am not designing, building, or commanding them, discussion with the
people who are, or the people they are directed by is my only way of
affecting what is put in space. For my part I provide financial support
while trying to welcome and support new sat ops who bring in their own
financial resources.

All hams who use sats need designers and builders like you.

You all are doing the most technical work that many of us can't do. I am
grateful and I think those of us who don't design and build but just use,
are grateful too. I need you but I think you need me and those of us who
don't design or build as well because this is an expensive hobby in sum. We
have to work together.

P.P.P.S.

Thanks for reading.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 17:29 Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> On 09/28/20 15:31, john--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > There has been little discussion about the meaning of the election
> > results themselves and that is what really matters.
>
> John,
>
> I, speaking only for myself, don't want that to start on this list.
>
> The vote is over. The membership has spoken.
>
> If someone wants to run during the next election, now is the time to
> demonstrate and exemplify being a leader. That person will gather
> support, and that support could carry them onto the board during the
> next cycle.
>
> If you don't want to be part of AMSAT, there appears to be at least one
> other alternative (ORI). I suspect, in time, ORI will have some of the
> same discussions/debates/arguments/mudslinging on their list. History
> has a knack for repeating itself.
>
> We're here to design, build, and/or operate satellites, and I hope we
> get back to that.
>
> 73,
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
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