[amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite

[i8cvs]

Hi Robert, WB5MZO

P3-A the first HEO built by AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-NA was similar to
OSCAR-10 but it was lost in the atlantic ocean with the main satellite
called "Firewheel" and another small satellite called Subsat because a  pump
of fuel of the first stage of the ARIANE 1 flight L-02 failed and  the 23
may 1980 was a black day for all of us  but I don't remember if P3-A had an
insurance policy or not.

Peter DB2OS should have this information.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet at hotmail.com>
To: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow at kourou.de>; "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite



Peter I am pretty sure it was not Oscar 10 but the launch before it...AS I
recall Phase3A was launched with a spacecraft called "firefly"...and one
more which I dont remember (AMPTE?)and of course all three were lost..

But I agree now days the money is absurd.

Sure wish we had Oscar 10 back...

Robert WB5MZO


> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:52:41 +0200
> From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite
>
> Rocky Jones wrote:
>> Launch insurance...
>>
>> I could be wrong but I think that Phase 3A had an insurance policy (if
memory serves)...the Ariane IV went Bang...
>>
>> do I recall this correctly?
>>
> To my knowledge it was P3-B (OSCAR-10) with Ariane-1 L06. And yes, they
> had to pay some money because P3-B was bumped by the last rocket stage
> and did not get it to the planned orbit....
>
> But forget it... in the early days it was still expensive, but not
> comparable what you nowadays have to pay for such insurance.
> However, some launch providers (like Arianespace) will give you now a
> free launch in case the launcher failed...
>
> 73s Peter DB2OS
>
>
> BTW:* SpaceX updated its launch manifest. Most notably, the NASA COTS
> missions are moved down the list.*
>
> ATSB (Malaysia)
> Q3 2008*
> Falcon 1
> Kwajalein
>
> US Government
> Q4 2008*
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
> MDA Corp. (Canada)
> 2009
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
> Avanti Communications (UK)
> 2009
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
> NASA COTS – Demo 1
> 2009
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
> NASA COTS – Demo 2
> 2009
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
> SpaceDev
> 2009
> Falcon 1
> Kwajalein
>
> NASA COTS – Demo 3
> 2010
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
> MDA Corp. (Canada)
> 2010
> Falcon 1
> Kwajalein
>
> Swedish Space Corp. (Sweden)
> 2010
> Falcon 1
> Kwajalein
>
> Bigelow Aerospace
> 2011
> Falcon 9
> Cape Canaveral
>
>
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