[amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite

[Rocky Jones]

Hello Domenico i8CVS  thanks for the correction..."fire" stuck in my mind...but I was working off of memory and sometimes on somethings my mind is like a shelf...you put something on it somethingelse has to fall off!

BTW your post here are usually quite impressive...nice going.

73's

Robert


> From: domenico.i8cvs at tin.it
> To: orbitjet at hotmail.com; peter.guelzow at kourou.de; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:11:58 +0200
>
> Hi Robert, WB5MZO
>
> P3-A the first HEO built by AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-NA was similar to
> OSCAR-10 but it was lost in the atlantic ocean with the main satellite
> called "Firewheel" and another small satellite called Subsat because a pump
> of fuel of the first stage of the ARIANE 1 flight L-02 failed and the 23
> may 1980 was a black day for all of us but I don't remember if P3-A had an
> insurance policy or not.
>
> Peter DB2OS should have this information.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Jones" 
> To: "Peter Guelzow" ; "AMSAT BB"
> 
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:27 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite
>
>
>
> Peter I am pretty sure it was not Oscar 10 but the launch before it...AS I
> recall Phase3A was launched with a spacecraft called "firefly"...and one
> more which I dont remember (AMPTE?)and of course all three were lost..
>
> But I agree now days the money is absurd.
>
> Sure wish we had Oscar 10 back...
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:52:41 +0200
>> From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What happens when you loose a satellite
>>
>> Rocky Jones wrote:
>>> Launch insurance...
>>>
>>> I could be wrong but I think that Phase 3A had an insurance policy (if
> memory serves)...the Ariane IV went Bang...
>>>
>>> do I recall this correctly?
>>>
>> To my knowledge it was P3-B (OSCAR-10) with Ariane-1 L06. And yes, they
>> had to pay some money because P3-B was bumped by the last rocket stage
>> and did not get it to the planned orbit....
>>
>> But forget it... in the early days it was still expensive, but not
>> comparable what you nowadays have to pay for such insurance.
>> However, some launch providers (like Arianespace) will give you now a
>> free launch in case the launcher failed...
>>
>> 73s Peter DB2OS
>>
>>
>> BTW:* SpaceX updated its launch manifest. Most notably, the NASA COTS
>> missions are moved down the list.*
>>
>> ATSB (Malaysia)
>> Q3 2008*
>> Falcon 1
>> Kwajalein
>>
>> US Government
>> Q4 2008*
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>> MDA Corp. (Canada)
>> 2009
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>> Avanti Communications (UK)
>> 2009
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>> NASA COTS – Demo 1
>> 2009
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>> NASA COTS – Demo 2
>> 2009
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>> SpaceDev
>> 2009
>> Falcon 1
>> Kwajalein
>>
>> NASA COTS – Demo 3
>> 2010
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>> MDA Corp. (Canada)
>> 2010
>> Falcon 1
>> Kwajalein
>>
>> Swedish Space Corp. (Sweden)
>> 2010
>> Falcon 1
>> Kwajalein
>>
>> Bigelow Aerospace
>> 2011
>> Falcon 9
>> Cape Canaveral
>>
>>
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