[amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?

[Joe]

Iknow kinda radical, but how about working with one of the radical new 
guys on the orbital block, Like the Chinese? or in a few years once they 
get all the bugs worked out, even the North Koreans?

Hey a ride is a ride if they can do it for cheap I don't care.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 8/29/2013 8:40 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> We need a very wealthy individual or two to get into the hobby and decide
> they want to work a HEO! If I were to win the lottery or somehow come into
> a few tens of millions of dollars, I'd pony up for the launch.
>
> Honestly, though, the numbers aren't completely unrealistic. A long and
> coordinated worldwide fundraising campaign could get it done. However, the
> website includes the following sentence:
>
> "The P3E-satellite should be ready for launch by mid-2007."
>
> http://www.p3e-satellite.org/en_EN/amsat.html
>
> Who's going to donate to a project when the website hasn't even been
> updated in over six years? I see it mentioned often that P3E is
> "essentially ready to go." If that's the case, why not press forward. As a
> relative newcomer, I'm often frustrated about the lack of updates about
> anything and websites that are wildly out of date. I know that everyone is
> a volunteer and busy with other things, but would it be so difficult to
> send out an update about what's going on once in a while? For example,
> TurkSat-3USAT was launched back in April. There have been absolutely no
> updates from anyone about what happened. Obviously the beacon is not
> transmitting and the transponder is not on, but what happened? Is there
> hope for recovery? If it has failed, the entire community could benefit
> from knowledge about what has happened so that similar failures don't
> happen in the future. Then there is AO-27. The website was last updated in
> January saying it will be several months before they know if the satellite
> can be recovered. A quick update would be appreciated, even if it's
> something like: "Due to time constraints, we haven't been able to attempt
> recovery."
>
> Things like this lead to the perception that this aspect of the hobby is
> dying. There is very little traffic on this reflector and not too much
> traffic on other web forums for amateur satellite operation. (See the QRZ
> forum topic "Is AMSAT dead?") I know there's always a lot going on "behind
> the scenes," but the lack of conversation and updates about what's going on
> doesn't really encourage hams to get involved or make donations.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
> Washington, DC
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Most of us really miss the old birds.  I was transferring satellite QSOs
>> from the 1980s through the
>> early 2000s to my electronic logbook, and was amazed at what I worked.
>>
>> AMSAT-DL has an excellent P3 satellite, currently being updated, but
>> essentially ready to go. Here is
>> the problem:  $5M - $10M launch costs to HEO. Even a super discount rate
>> of $1M would be impractical.
>> In the old days, we could beg, borrow, and barter for launches at nominal
>> rates on test flights.
>> Unfortunately, the launch industry has matured, and can find buyers for
>> even the smallest spaces and
>> mass. Sometimes counties can get what I think of as National Prestige
>> Rates for a first launch, but
>> those days are largely behind us.  Personally, I am confident that
>> AMSAT-DL will fly their satellite,
>> but it is clear that future HEOs will be few and far between.
>>
>> That is the highly abbreviated answer.
>>
>> 73s,
>>
>> Alan
>> WA4SCA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
>> Behalf Of Peter Klein
>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:59 AM
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] High orbit satellites?
>>
>> What are the chances that there will be another high-orbit satellite
>> like AO-10 and AO-13?  Does AMSAT have any plans in that direction since
>> the demise of AO-40?  My main satellite interest is live communication
>> with faraway places, and I really miss those Molnya birds.
>>
>> --Peter, KD7MW
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