[amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?

[n0jy]

For AMSAT-NA, I believe ITAR prohibits us from pursuing such opportunities.

Jerry
N0JY

On 8/29/2013 9:34 AM, Joe wrote:
> Iknow kinda radical, but how about working with one of the radical new 
> guys on the orbital block, Like the Chinese? or in a few years once 
> they get all the bugs worked out, even the North Koreans?
>
> Hey a ride is a ride if they can do it for cheap I don't care.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 8/29/2013 8:40 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> We need a very wealthy individual or two to get into the hobby and 
>> decide
>> they want to work a HEO! If I were to win the lottery or somehow come 
>> into
>> a few tens of millions of dollars, I'd pony up for the launch.
>>
>> Honestly, though, the numbers aren't completely unrealistic. A long and
>> coordinated worldwide fundraising campaign could get it done. 
>> However, the
>> website includes the following sentence:
>>
>> "The P3E-satellite should be ready for launch by mid-2007."
>>
>> http://www.p3e-satellite.org/en_EN/amsat.html
>>
>> Who's going to donate to a project when the website hasn't even been
>> updated in over six years? I see it mentioned often that P3E is
>> "essentially ready to go." If that's the case, why not press forward. 
>> As a
>> relative newcomer, I'm often frustrated about the lack of updates about
>> anything and websites that are wildly out of date. I know that 
>> everyone is
>> a volunteer and busy with other things, but would it be so difficult to
>> send out an update about what's going on once in a while? For example,
>> TurkSat-3USAT was launched back in April. There have been absolutely no
>> updates from anyone about what happened. Obviously the beacon is not
>> transmitting and the transponder is not on, but what happened? Is there
>> hope for recovery? If it has failed, the entire community could benefit
>> from knowledge about what has happened so that similar failures don't
>> happen in the future. Then there is AO-27. The website was last 
>> updated in
>> January saying it will be several months before they know if the 
>> satellite
>> can be recovered. A quick update would be appreciated, even if it's
>> something like: "Due to time constraints, we haven't been able to 
>> attempt
>> recovery."
>>
>> Things like this lead to the perception that this aspect of the hobby is
>> dying. There is very little traffic on this reflector and not too much
>> traffic on other web forums for amateur satellite operation. (See the 
>> QRZ
>> forum topic "Is AMSAT dead?") I know there's always a lot going on 
>> "behind
>> the scenes," but the lack of conversation and updates about what's 
>> going on
>> doesn't really encourage hams to get involved or make donations.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>> Washington, DC
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Most of us really miss the old birds.  I was transferring satellite 
>>> QSOs
>>> from the 1980s through the
>>> early 2000s to my electronic logbook, and was amazed at what I worked.
>>>
>>> AMSAT-DL has an excellent P3 satellite, currently being updated, but
>>> essentially ready to go. Here is
>>> the problem:  $5M - $10M launch costs to HEO. Even a super discount 
>>> rate
>>> of $1M would be impractical.
>>> In the old days, we could beg, borrow, and barter for launches at 
>>> nominal
>>> rates on test flights.
>>> Unfortunately, the launch industry has matured, and can find buyers for
>>> even the smallest spaces and
>>> mass. Sometimes counties can get what I think of as National Prestige
>>> Rates for a first launch, but
>>> those days are largely behind us.  Personally, I am confident that
>>> AMSAT-DL will fly their satellite,
>>> but it is clear that future HEOs will be few and far between.
>>>
>>> That is the highly abbreviated answer.
>>>
>>> 73s,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> WA4SCA
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Peter Klein
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:59 AM
>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] High orbit satellites?
>>>
>>> What are the chances that there will be another high-orbit satellite
>>> like AO-10 and AO-13?  Does AMSAT have any plans in that direction 
>>> since
>>> the demise of AO-40?  My main satellite interest is live communication
>>> with faraway places, and I really miss those Molnya birds.
>>>
>>> --Peter, KD7MW
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