[amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z

Mon Aug 24 19:09:06 UTC 2015

Hi James,

I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter
into the hobby!   That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!!
  You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts
with the negative comments.   Fortunately, they are few and far between.
Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the
old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior
to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds.

Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on
working through the process and making contacts.   Good Job!!

7 3
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
Bend Oregon
CN94

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV <james at wx4tv.com> wrote:

> We’re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn the
> material and earn her Technician license.  She is now studying for her
> General and learning Morse Code.  She also likes to learn by doing.  Hence,
> she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates.  But, she
> learns.  I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned
> about adults like them from reading these posts.  (Yes, she does read them.)
>
> As her dad, I will call it as I see it.  You’re both being bullies to a
> little girl who is excited about her new hobby.  Way to go.  I hope that
> you feel superior to her by  setting the record straight that this wasn’t a
> valid contact.
>
> She doesn’t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards.
> She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where her
> signal went.  She likes to go to public places to operate because people
> ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is.  This time,
> the recording got covered up by someone asking a question.  She is a little
> girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio.
> Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement.  Well done.
>
> She bounced back, though…  She determined on her own that if she is ever
> in a grid that you need, she isn’t going to give it to you.  (Grids are so
> important, aren’t they?)
>
> Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next
> year.  Maybe you might make it into her speech.
>
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sked QSOs do count for awards.  Done all of the time for EME and meteor
> > scatter QSOs.
> >
> > John AF5CC
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus <gus at 8p6sm.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Bob is completely correct.
> >>
> >> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what
> >> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to
> stand
> >> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear.  If you didn't copy the
> callsign
> >> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO.  No relays or outside
> >> assistance are allowed.  And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count
> >> either, for contests or awards.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed.  I certainly wouldn't want
> >> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either.  Nor would I
> >> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either.  But facts
> >> are facts.
> >>
> >> Ineptitude?  Belittling?  Really?  Let's not go there.
> >>
> >> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, Bob…  I will bite.  Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on
> the
> >>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording.
> I am
> >>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9
> year
> >>> old wasn’t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios
> and an
> >>> antenna.  Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby
> >>> altogether.  I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can
> >>> belittle my daughter to her face.
> >>>
> >>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the
> >>> recording.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob.
> >>>>
> >>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to
> >>>> give you a call.
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator
> covered
> >>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question?
> >>>>
> >>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing
> >>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve AI9IN
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Basic concept....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact
> !!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BOB KO6TZ
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