[amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z

Mon Aug 24 23:16:06 UTC 2015

Well said Jeff,

I can't wait to hear your awesome daughter on the bird again James. You are a blessed Dad to have a youngster interested in Amateur Radio these days with all the outside distractions. I bet you are immensely proud of her. 
Keep up the good work and pretend the QRM isn't there. They will quietly go away. 

Michael/KC4ZVA
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On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Moore <tnetcenter at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi James,

I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter
into the hobby!   That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!!
 You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts
with the negative comments.   Fortunately, they are few and far between.
Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the
old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior
to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds.

Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on
working through the process and making contacts.   Good Job!!

7 3
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
Bend Oregon
CN94

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV <james at wx4tv.com> wrote:
> 
> We’re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn the
> material and earn her Technician license.  She is now studying for her
> General and learning Morse Code.  She also likes to learn by doing.  Hence,
> she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates.  But, she
> learns.  I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned
> about adults like them from reading these posts.  (Yes, she does read them.)
> 
> As her dad, I will call it as I see it.  You’re both being bullies to a
> little girl who is excited about her new hobby.  Way to go.  I hope that
> you feel superior to her by  setting the record straight that this wasn’t a
> valid contact.
> 
> She doesn’t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards.
> She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where her
> signal went.  She likes to go to public places to operate because people
> ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is.  This time,
> the recording got covered up by someone asking a question.  She is a little
> girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio.
> Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement.  Well done.
> 
> She bounced back, though…  She determined on her own that if she is ever
> in a grid that you need, she isn’t going to give it to you.  (Grids are so
> important, aren’t they?)
> 
> Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next
> year.  Maybe you might make it into her speech.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sked QSOs do count for awards.  Done all of the time for EME and meteor
>> scatter QSOs.
>> 
>> John AF5CC
>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus <gus at 8p6sm.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob is completely correct.
>>> 
>>> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what
>>> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to
> stand
>>> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear.  If you didn't copy the
> callsign
>>> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO.  No relays or outside
>>> assistance are allowed.  And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count
>>> either, for contests or awards.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed.  I certainly wouldn't want
>>> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either.  Nor would I
>>> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either.  But facts
>>> are facts.
>>> 
>>> Ineptitude?  Belittling?  Really?  Let's not go there.
>>> 
>>>> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, Bob…  I will bite.  Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on
> the
>>>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording.
> I am
>>>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9
> year
>>>> old wasn’t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios
> and an
>>>> antenna.  Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby
>>>> altogether.  I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can
>>>> belittle my daughter to her face.
>>>> 
>>>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the
>>>> recording.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to
>>>>> give you a call.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator
> covered
>>>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing
>>>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve AI9IN
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Basic concept....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact
> !!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BOB KO6TZ
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