[amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?

Sun Sep 25 02:10:07 UTC 2016

I am an IT person

I am a web designer

I am volunteering 

I spend most of my time on the PC

What do u need done I will do it

Andrew 

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Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net


> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
> IT person either.
> 
> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> Secretary
> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>> 
>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The website is not up to date.
>> 
>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>> 
>> 
>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>> 
>> 
>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>> advocacy.
>> 
>> 
>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>> 
>> 
>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>> you quit looking at it?"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>> 
>> 
>> QUOTED
>> 
>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>> 
>> 73...bruce
>> 
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>> 
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>> bringing this up.
>> 
>> 
>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>> 
>>> 73...bruce
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>> active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>> look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>> to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>> never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>> the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>> website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>> happens
>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>> no
>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>> store,
>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>> past,
>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>> something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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