[amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?

Sun Sep 25 01:41:21 UTC 2016

The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
IT person either.

We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Secretary
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:

> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>
> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>
>
>
> The website is not up to date.
>
> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>
>
> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>
>
> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
> advocacy.
>
>
> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>
>
> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
> you quit looking at it?"
>
>
>
> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>  don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>
>
> QUOTED
>
> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>
> 73...bruce
>
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>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
>
>
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> > the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
> > processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
> > changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
> > martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
> >
> > 73...bruce
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
> >
> > On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
> active
> > amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
> look
> > at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
> to
> > the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> > date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
> never
> > look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
> the
> > organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
> website
> > up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> > There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> > bringing this up.
> >
> >
> > I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> > upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> > call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> > am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > > constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> > >
> > > Dave-KB1PVH
> > >
> > > Sent from my Galaxy S7
> > >
> > > On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> > > >
> > > > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > > > the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
> happens
> > > > slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
> no
> > > > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
> store,
> > > > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > > >
> > > > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
> past,
> > > > off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > > > something.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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