[amsat-bb] Fwd: Dupe contacts on SO-50

[Gabriel Zeifman]

> 
> I think the issue Tucker raises is more when veteran sat ops try to discuss their DXpedition to Pitcairn on a busy SO-50 pass. I think everyone supports new blood, even when they fumble. 
> 
> 73,
> Gabe
> NJ7H
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 1:08 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Tucker W4FS,
>> 
>> 
>> First, you are far from being a curmudgeon! You'll have to put
>> in many years of crankiness before you can claim that title.
>> 
>> You raise a point that has persisted for quite a while regarding
>> FM Satellites. Experienced operators usually follow the proper
>> protocol/etiquette on the single-channel resource. They rarely
>> chit-chat unless the bird is idle. As with anything else, newbies
>> are learning the ropes.
>> 
>> The FM SATs, as we all know, are where the new folks start out
>> because they are easy due to readily available equipment. These
>> operators are trying to figure everything out at once - the frequencies,
>> the antennas, the PL, the AOS/LOS/AZ/EL, the protocol, etc., etc.
>> 
>> Until they figure all of these things out, the rest of the users are
>> going to have to endure problems of various kinds. It's the utter
>> reality of the situation. However, they are the "new blood" that
>> we need to keep this aspect of the hobby growing.
>> 
>> And, believe it or not, not all SAT Ops are Grid Chasers. Some only
>> care about the thrill of pointing a signal up toward the sky and
>> saying hello to someone via something flying through Space. We have
>> no choice but to co-exist in this environment. It is what it is.
>> 
>> A good primer for new operators can be found on John K8YSE's website
>> at:  http://www.papays.com/sat/general.html
>> 
>> All we can do is be good examples for the new/other users. When someone
>> is operating from a rare Grid and we already have it confirmed, stay clear. If the
>> pileup dies down and no one is calling, it's perfectly fine to say a quick hello
>> to let them know they are being heard. During routine passes, if you hear a new
>> Call, it's nice to give them a shout so they get the operating experience.
>> 
>> 73 & GL 2 All,       Bob  K8BL
>> 
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>>>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Tucker McGuire <tucker at mcguireland.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Hello space bird enthusiasts,
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I have noticed that certain stations on busy SO-50 passes work the same
>> 
>>> stations that they have worked on many previous passes when they are in the
>> 
>>> same grid. Dupe contacts.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> This can prevent and has prevented other stations from trying to work new
>> 
>>> grids that happen to be on or perhaps prevented them from working a new guy
>> 
>>> that hasn't been on the satellites before. On quiet passes I see no issues
>> 
>>> with working the same station you've worked hundreds of times before but on
>> 
>>> busy SO-50 passes it is just disruptive.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but that's my two cents.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers & 73,
>> 
>>> Tucker
>> 
>>> W4FS
>> 
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