[amsat-bb] Fwd: Dupe contacts on SO-50

[Tucker McGuire]

You're correct Gabe.

 I don't want the new guy to miss out on a QSO because of these dupe
contacts on really busy passes. In my original email I said "or perhaps
prevented them from working a new guy that hasn't been on the satellites
before" I was not just referring to stations on in new rare grids (Not
everyone chases grids). I've heard new guys just trying to get that first
contact get ignored before.

Cheers & 73,
Tucker
W4FS

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman at gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > I think the issue Tucker raises is more when veteran sat ops try to
> discuss their DXpedition to Pitcairn on a busy SO-50 pass. I think everyone
> supports new blood, even when they fumble.
> >
> > 73,
> > Gabe
> > NJ7H
> >
> >> On Apr 17, 2017, at 1:08 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tucker W4FS,
> >>
> >>
> >> First, you are far from being a curmudgeon! You'll have to put
> >> in many years of crankiness before you can claim that title.
> >>
> >> You raise a point that has persisted for quite a while regarding
> >> FM Satellites. Experienced operators usually follow the proper
> >> protocol/etiquette on the single-channel resource. They rarely
> >> chit-chat unless the bird is idle. As with anything else, newbies
> >> are learning the ropes.
> >>
> >> The FM SATs, as we all know, are where the new folks start out
> >> because they are easy due to readily available equipment. These
> >> operators are trying to figure everything out at once - the frequencies,
> >> the antennas, the PL, the AOS/LOS/AZ/EL, the protocol, etc., etc.
> >>
> >> Until they figure all of these things out, the rest of the users are
> >> going to have to endure problems of various kinds. It's the utter
> >> reality of the situation. However, they are the "new blood" that
> >> we need to keep this aspect of the hobby growing.
> >>
> >> And, believe it or not, not all SAT Ops are Grid Chasers. Some only
> >> care about the thrill of pointing a signal up toward the sky and
> >> saying hello to someone via something flying through Space. We have
> >> no choice but to co-exist in this environment. It is what it is.
> >>
> >> A good primer for new operators can be found on John K8YSE's website
> >> at:  http://www.papays.com/sat/general.html
> >>
> >> All we can do is be good examples for the new/other users. When someone
> >> is operating from a rare Grid and we already have it confirmed, stay
> clear. If the
> >> pileup dies down and no one is calling, it's perfectly fine to say a
> quick hello
> >> to let them know they are being heard. During routine passes, if you
> hear a new
> >> Call, it's nice to give them a shout so they get the operating
> experience.
> >>
> >> 73 & GL 2 All,       Bob  K8BL
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Tucker McGuire <tucker at mcguireland.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Hello space bird enthusiasts,
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> I have noticed that certain stations on busy SO-50 passes work the same
> >>
> >>> stations that they have worked on many previous passes when they are
> in the
> >>
> >>> same grid. Dupe contacts.
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> This can prevent and has prevented other stations from trying to work
> new
> >>
> >>> grids that happen to be on or perhaps prevented them from working a
> new guy
> >>
> >>> that hasn't been on the satellites before. On quiet passes I see no
> issues
> >>
> >>> with working the same station you've worked hundreds of times before
> but on
> >>
> >>> busy SO-50 passes it is just disruptive.
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but that's my two cents.
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Cheers & 73,
> >>
> >>> Tucker
> >>
> >>> W4FS
> >>
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