[amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation?

Fri Mar 10 01:07:27 UTC 2017

I find it annoying that lots of the American HT's don't support cross-band
channels. For sure, not the new Icoms, don't think the TH-F6, but all
Chinese radios I have played with will do split band channels.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Tucker McGuire <tucker at mcguireland.com>
wrote:

> My FT-530 most certainly does true full duplex on mode B and mode J. You
> must be misinformed on the features of these HT's.
>
> Cheers & 73,
> Tucker
> W4FS
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2017 6:55 PM, "Gabriel Zeifman" <gabrielzeifman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Even the $30 Baofengs support cross-band memories for sat operations.
> That's how I started, but as Paul said, half-duplex on FM should not be
> condoned now, especially as our FM birds get more and more crowded and it
> becomes just an additional source of QRM.
>
> I've been very happy with my D72A. Packet is a nice feature to have to work
> ISS and NO-84.
>
> 73,
> Gabe
> NJ7H
>
> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >
> > You are simply wrong. The Kenwood TH-D72, D7, D7(G) as well as the Yaesu
> > FT-470 and FT-530 all are excellent full-duplex HTs with no desense.
> >
> > It appears you are suggesting that people operate half-duplex. That can
> > work somewhat, but is definitely not something I would ever recommend.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 18:25 Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:17:14 -0500
> >> From: Tucker McGuire <tucker at mcguireland.com>
> >> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> >> Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation? This is a
> loaded
> >> questions and every HAM I've ever met has opinions...
> >> It is better to ask what HT's fit SAT OPs functionality:
> >>
> >> Everyone wants 'full duplex', I've not seen a dual-band HT that can do
> >> 'real' RX while the PTT is pushed, period!
> >>
> >> Nest shoot for - What dual-band HT can program SAT offsets (in the SAME
> >> single memory)?
> >> My definition: in one memory can program both 2m-RX AND 70cm-PTT or
> >> vice-versa.
> >> Why: you only need say 4 or 5 memories per SAT for AOS/LOS OPs - one
> less
> >> hand needed and far less hassle.  I know Yaesu and Wuoxon can do this
> via
> >> PC Program. Kwood TH-F6, Icom IC-91/T8, Alinco G7 cannot they can do it
> >> only via flipping the A/B Bands (pain in the butt) - they do not allow
> >> cross band offsets in memory.
> >>
> >> Now another BAD issue with Yeasu & Wuoxun is they both have a high
> >> discharge rate of battery when in the OFF state. I found if I leave my
> HT's
> >> on the shelf for +60days I must isolate the battery for the radio to
> >> eliminate wasteful discharging dropp[ing a B-Meter bar. I do this by
> using
> >> a 'paper' business-card cut it to size, sandwich between the battery and
> HT
> >> - isolating the battery contacts. Easy, simple, effective, cheap - what
> HAM
> >> Radio is all about.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
> >> Sidney, OH 45365  EN70vh
> >>
> >>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA
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> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >
> > You are simply wrong. The Kenwood TH-D72, D7, D7(G) as well as the Yaesu
> > FT-470 and FT-530 all are excellent full-duplex HTs with no desense.
> >
> > It appears you are suggesting that people operate half-duplex. That can
> > work somewhat, but is definitely not something I would ever recommend.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 18:25 Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:17:14 -0500
> >> From: Tucker McGuire <tucker at mcguireland.com>
> >> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> >> Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation? This is a
> loaded
> >> questions and every HAM I've ever met has opinions...
> >> It is better to ask what HT's fit SAT OPs functionality:
> >>
> >> Everyone wants 'full duplex', I've not seen a dual-band HT that can do
> >> 'real' RX while the PTT is pushed, period!
> >>
> >> Nest shoot for - What dual-band HT can program SAT offsets (in the SAME
> >> single memory)?
> >> My definition: in one memory can program both 2m-RX AND 70cm-PTT or
> >> vice-versa.
> >> Why: you only need say 4 or 5 memories per SAT for AOS/LOS OPs - one
> less
> >> hand needed and far less hassle.  I know Yaesu and Wuoxon can do this
> via
> >> PC Program. Kwood TH-F6, Icom IC-91/T8, Alinco G7 cannot they can do it
> >> only via flipping the A/B Bands (pain in the butt) - they do not allow
> >> cross band offsets in memory.
> >>
> >> Now another BAD issue with Yeasu & Wuoxun is they both have a high
> >> discharge rate of battery when in the OFF state. I found if I leave my
> HT's
> >> on the shelf for +60days I must isolate the battery for the radio to
> >> eliminate wasteful discharging dropp[ing a B-Meter bar. I do this by
> using
> >> a 'paper' business-card cut it to size, sandwich between the battery and
> HT
> >> - isolating the battery contacts. Easy, simple, effective, cheap - what
> HAM
> >> Radio is all about.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
> >> Sidney, OH 45365  EN70vh
> >>
> >>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> >> expressed
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