[amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218

Tue Jun 26 02:58:29 UTC 2018

Paul,

According to the 2018 ARRL Field Day rules:

    7.3.7. Satellite QSO: 100 bonus points for successfully completing 
at least one
    QSO via an amateur radio satellite during the Field Day period. 
Satellite QSOs
    also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately on 
the summary
    sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional bonus 
for contacting
    different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be counted for 
QSO credit
    unless prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1. The QSO must be between two 
Earth stations
    through a satellite. Available to Classes A, B, and F.
    7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single 
channel FM
    satellite.

I was suggesting a change in the rules that the additional QSOs, at 
least on the
FM birds, would not be counted for QSO credit.  That might result in 
stations
getting the bonus and getting off, unless they wanted to help other 
stations to
get their bonus.  Of course, you'd think that limiting acceptable QSOs 
to one per
FM satellite would have the same affect.  Apparently not, it seems.  I 
guess some
stations didn't read the rules very closely.

73,

Mac / AE5PH

On 06/25/2018 06:24 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> The rules already limit FM QSOs to one.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 01:21 Mac A. Cody <maccody at att.net 
> <mailto:maccody at att.net>> wrote:
>
>     Greg,
>
>     Yeah.  Icertainly wouldn't make the bonus too much larger than 100
>     points.  Don't know how one would penalize for multiple QSOs. You
>     might make the one you need and then another station would call you.
>     I'd keep it at only one QSO allowed for the bonus and nothing more.
>     This would allow for a station to work others to help them get their
>     bonus, too, but only if that station wanted to help.  My guess is that
>     a lot of stations would bow out once they got their one QSO. That, I
>     hope, would free up the FM satellites fairly quickly.
>
>     Mac / AE5PH
>
>     On 06/25/2018 12:01 AM, Greg D wrote:
>     > The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation
>     > compared to the summer event.  I don't think what worked for the
>     winter
>     > event can scale to the summer one.  Imagine the chaos that would be
>     > caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact
>     in the
>     > summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of
>     participants to
>     > attempt a contact.  It would certainly bring additional
>     attention and
>     > interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much.
>     >
>     > But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good;
>     > perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds.
>     >
>     > Greg  KO6TH
>     >
>     >
>     > Mac A. Cody wrote:
>     >> One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for
>     >> Winter Field Day.  For Winter Field Day, a station can net a
>     1500-point
>     >> bonus for one satellite QSO.  There are no additional points for
>     >> subsequent QSOs.  Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for
>     >> an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points.
>     >>
>     >> 73,
>     >>
>     >> Mac Cody / AE5PH
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     >>> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today..
>     >>> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening
>     ONLY and
>     >>> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators
>     >>> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without  being
>     able to
>     >>> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange
>     monitored..and
>     >>> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys
>     >>> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first
>     >>> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording.
>     >>>
>     http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-wav-.wav
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
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