[amsat-bb] Tesla Field Day mode (taxpayers)

[Robert Bruninga]

Its bad to continue this here...

> No, the subject is not for here, but also,
> not for a 'hit and run' attack on fossil fuel vehicles...
> Nonsense, Bob. FACTS:
>
https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/are-electric-car-subsidies-j
ust-giveaways-to-the-wealthy/

The facts are that we tax payers pay $20 billion dollars a year for Gas
and Oil subsidies.
Divide that by the number of gas vehicles sold per year and you get $3300
subsidy per gas car.
The article you quote ignores that fact and uses flawed one sided
comparisons throughout.

If the government does not incentivize us to move away from high emission
cars, who will?

Here are a few truths ignored by that oil-company wall-street biased
article:
* 53% of all EV's in 2018 now cost less (w incentives) than the average
gas car ($35k)
* 50% of all plugins now have ranges over 350 miles
* EV's sales are growing by 50 to 100% a year.  Gas car sales are falling
since mid 2018
* Thank heavens that those who can afford them are buying them.
* Or, Does the author want poor people to buy EV's so others can keep
driving gas?
* EVs help everyone to breathe cleaner air.  What are others doing for
clean air?
* There are 6 EV pickups in development (higher torque, towing, and
worksite 240 VAC)
* There is an EV model for almost everyone except the daily road warrior.
* EV's can drive the American Average 40 mi/day from just 12 solar panels
only!

It's an exciting time. I cant believe I have long enough to see solar half
the cost of utilities and EV's that are now better, faster, cleaner and
cheaper to buy, cheaper to operate and cheaper to maintain than the
average gas car.  And it makes a great power source for Ham radio (except
for the RFI)...

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tesla Field Day mode (taxpayers)

> True, Zach....the difference is, the taxpayers don't pay for your
> setup!!

An apparent complaint about clean air EV incentives, while ignoring the
petroleum subsidies of about $3300 per dirty-air gas car.  Which is now
about the same as the $3750 Tesla incentive.  But, the Tesla incentive
will decrease by half in the next six months and then zero.  While the
dirty gas car continues to get subsidized by tax payers for decades...

We should end this thread as off topic, but need to correct any
misinformation.  Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach
Metzinger
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tesla Field Day mode

On 2/20/19 1:28 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> Very nice!  Wish I could afford [a Tesla]...
>
> A Chevy Volt can run a Field Day (or a house under minimum power) for
> about 8 hours before it has to start the engine to recharge the battery.
> These 3 year-old off-lease Volts go for only about $12k.

Seems a bit overkill when a marine deep-cycle and a solar panel will run
you about $500, no? ;-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO