[amsat-bb] ARRL Antenna book, eggbeater antenna designs
David Swanson
dave at druidnetworks.com
Fri May 3 21:55:13 UTC 2019
OK Devin since you want to do this in public ---
Yes, I'm one of the guys (AL6D is the other) you sent an out of thread
reply to back on April 24th scolding us like a school marm for not just
accepting people who are causing deliberate interference. You then
proceeded to use a bunch of snowflake words like "ableism" at me and Gabe.
I promptly told you to go to hell with your preaching, and I'll tell you
again now in public.
Back on topic, here's the low-down - if you're not actually making
contacts, then you're not operating. You're SWLing. Any old joe with an SDR
and a coat hanger can listen, and they might even hear something from time
to time, that is a far cry from being a successful op. I'm not going to
bother telling you about the success I've had on Satellites (you can figure
that out yourself if you care too) but rest assured I do have a clue.
Interestingly, you have made 36 replies to this list since 2016 (based on a
quick search) and have no doubt seen countless thread about Omni's,
tripods, and Eggbeaters. Yet you have never made a QSO, and still come in
here offering incorrect advice to others, all the while playing the family
oh so poor card, to explain why you would want to build a sub-par setup and
cause deliberate interference on the current LEO fleet. You sir are a
genuine troll of the highest order, I only replied in kind with my dummy
load post suggestion.
You can reply to this thread if you like - cause I'm just a guy and don't
claim to have any power over other people's speech. I please do request
though that you don't ever get on the birds, cause you're obviously
incapable of the basic functions necessary to operate.
73!
-Dave, KG5CCI
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:10 PM Devin L. Ganger <devin at thecabal.org> wrote:
> Oh, that's right, you're the dude who's still butt-hurt because I called
> people out about bullying new users who ask about tripods.
>
> You're the dude who assumed that since you never heard me TX that meant I
> wasn't operating at all.
>
> You're the dude whose reading comprehension is lacking.
>
> And you seem to be the dude who thinks that if you know one aspect of
> operating you know them all and can't ever admit ignorance.
>
> Please don't bother to respond to the thread any more -- I know I can't
> trust any advice you might give, out of only the best of intentions,
> because you make too many faulty assumptions.
>
> --
> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> email: devin at thecabal.org
> web: Devin on Earth
> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of David
> > Swanson via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 1:58 PM
> > To: Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com>
> > Cc: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Antenna book, eggbeater antenna designs
> >
> > Hi Sean!
> >
> > I don't recall seeing any name calling here until your post, I genuinely
> want to
> > make sure the author of this thread who has sent numerous emails to this
> list
> > explaining how to operate gets the best tips in regards to their planned
> build.
> > I'm actually in the process of building the setup I recommended and will
> plan
> > on doing a demo for folks sometime here soon, stay tuned!
> >
> > -Dave, KG5CCI
> >
> > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:51 PM Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, yes, rather than maybe educate someone let's just berate them and
> > > functionally call them an idiot.
> > >
> > > Eggbeaters have a bad rap because they don't necessarily hear well.
> > > You may be making it into the bird but not hearing yourself, so you
> > > keep tuning around and calling trying to find yourself only to be
> > > deaf-ly QRMing other stations. I have no experience with them, but
> that's
> > what I've heard.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Sean WA1TE
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:49 PM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Instead of building eggbeaters, pick up a few of these:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-261
> > >>
> > >> You'll also need a pair of these:
> > >>
> > >> https://www.amazon.com/Coaxial-Cable-Female-SO239-
> > PL259/dp/B00KQHH7VC
> > >>
> > >> Hook those into your baofengs and you'll be just as effective on the
> > >> Satellites as you would with some homemade 'beaters.
> > >>
> > >> Good luck! 73!
> > >>
> > >> -Dave, KG5CCI
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:19 PM Devin L. Ganger via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Greetings, programs!
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm looking to work with my son (who will be studying to get his
> > >> > Technician license later this month) on building a UHF/VHF pair of
> > >> > eggbeater antennas. I've found a few papers online, but does anyone
> > >> have a
> > >> > good reference to a detailed design?
> > >> >
> > >> > Does the ARRL Antenna book latest edition have any significant
> > >> > coverage
> > >> of
> > >> > eggbeaters at all? I have an older version that has nothing.
> > >> >
> > >> > Also, most of the designs I see are for a single band. If you're
> > >> deploying
> > >> > a pair for satellite operations, do you simply attach them through
> > >> > a duplexer? I have a Diamond MX-72N that I picked up a while ago
> > >> > for using with dual Baofengs, but it's been sitting in my drawer
> > >> > since I picked
> > >> up my
> > >> > TH-D72A. It has a 1.6~150MHz lead and a 350~460MHz lead.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance for any pointers you might have.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> > >> > email: devin at thecabal.org<mailto:devin at thecabal.org>
> > >> > web: Devin on Earth<http://www.devinonearth.com/>
> > >> > cell: +1 425.239.2575
> > >> >
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