[amsat-bb] ARRL Antenna book, eggbeater antenna designs

Fri May 3 22:10:13 UTC 2019

I’ll second this post and state that a directional antenna, either Yagi or LPDA will always work best for satellites. 

Jeff WE4B 

> On May 3, 2019, at 4:55 PM, David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> OK Devin since you want to do this in public ---
> 
> Yes, I'm one of the guys (AL6D is the other) you sent an out of thread
> reply to back on April 24th scolding us like a school marm for not just
> accepting people who are causing deliberate interference. You then
> proceeded to use a bunch of snowflake words like "ableism" at me and Gabe.
> I promptly told you to go to hell with your preaching, and I'll tell you
> again now in public.
> 
> Back on topic, here's the low-down - if you're not actually making
> contacts, then you're not operating. You're SWLing. Any old joe with an SDR
> and a coat hanger can listen, and they might even hear something from time
> to time, that is a far cry from being a successful op. I'm not going to
> bother telling you about the success I've had on Satellites (you can figure
> that out yourself if you care too) but rest assured I do have a clue.
> Interestingly, you have made 36 replies to this list since 2016 (based on a
> quick search) and have no doubt seen countless thread about Omni's,
> tripods, and Eggbeaters. Yet you have never made a QSO, and still come in
> here offering incorrect advice to others, all the while playing the family
> oh so poor card, to explain why you would want to build a sub-par setup and
> cause deliberate interference on the current LEO fleet. You sir are a
> genuine troll of the highest order, I only replied in kind with my dummy
> load post suggestion.
> 
> You can reply to this thread if you like - cause I'm just a guy and don't
> claim to have any power over other people's speech. I please do request
> though that you don't ever get on the birds, cause you're obviously
> incapable of the basic functions necessary to operate.
> 
> 73!
> 
> -Dave, KG5CCI
> 
>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:10 PM Devin L. Ganger <devin at thecabal.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's right, you're the dude who's still butt-hurt because I called
>> people out about bullying new users who ask about tripods.
>> 
>> You're the dude who assumed that since you never heard me TX that meant I
>> wasn't operating at all.
>> 
>> You're the dude whose reading comprehension is lacking.
>> 
>> And you seem to be the dude who thinks that if you know one aspect of
>> operating you know them all and can't ever admit ignorance.
>> 
>> Please don't bother to respond to the thread any more -- I know I can't
>> trust any advice you might give, out of only the best of intentions,
>> because you make too many faulty assumptions.
>> 
>> --
>> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
>> email: devin at thecabal.org
>> web: Devin on Earth
>> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org> On Behalf Of David
>>> Swanson via AMSAT-BB
>>> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 1:58 PM
>>> To: Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Antenna book, eggbeater antenna designs
>>> 
>>> Hi Sean!
>>> 
>>> I don't recall seeing any name calling here until your post, I genuinely
>> want to
>>> make sure the author of this thread who has sent numerous emails to this
>> list
>>> explaining how to operate gets the best tips in regards to their planned
>> build.
>>> I'm actually in the process of building the setup I recommended and will
>> plan
>>> on doing a demo for folks sometime here soon, stay tuned!
>>> 
>>> -Dave, KG5CCI
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:51 PM Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, yes, rather than maybe educate someone let's just berate them and
>>>> functionally call them an idiot.
>>>> 
>>>> Eggbeaters have a bad rap because they don't necessarily hear well.
>>>> You may be making it into the bird but not hearing yourself, so you
>>>> keep tuning around and calling trying to find yourself only to be
>>>> deaf-ly QRMing other stations. I have no experience with them, but
>> that's
>>> what I've heard.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Sean WA1TE
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:49 PM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Instead of building eggbeaters, pick up a few of these:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-261
>>>>> 
>>>>> You'll also need a pair of these:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Coaxial-Cable-Female-SO239-
>>> PL259/dp/B00KQHH7VC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hook those into your baofengs and you'll be just as effective on the
>>>>> Satellites as you would with some homemade 'beaters.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck! 73!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Dave, KG5CCI
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:19 PM Devin L. Ganger via AMSAT-BB <
>>>>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings, programs!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm looking to work with my son (who will be studying to get his
>>>>>> Technician license later this month) on building a UHF/VHF pair of
>>>>>> eggbeater antennas. I've found a few papers online, but does anyone
>>>>> have a
>>>>>> good reference to a detailed design?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does the ARRL Antenna book latest edition have any significant
>>>>>> coverage
>>>>> of
>>>>>> eggbeaters at all? I have an older version that has nothing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, most of the designs I see are for a single band. If you're
>>>>> deploying
>>>>>> a pair for satellite operations, do you simply attach them through
>>>>>> a duplexer? I have a Diamond MX-72N that I picked up a while ago
>>>>>> for using with dual Baofengs, but it's been sitting in my drawer
>>>>>> since I picked
>>>>> up my
>>>>>> TH-D72A. It has a 1.6~150MHz lead and a 350~460MHz lead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any pointers you might have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
>>>>>> email: devin at thecabal.org<mailto:devin at thecabal.org>
>>>>>> web: Devin on Earth<http://www.devinonearth.com/>
>>>>>> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>>>>>> 
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