[amsat-bb] suitable omni antenna for FM sats?

[Ron VE8RT]

Thanks for the comments,

   not without internet entirely, it is available in town but not at
home.  So keps could be updated.

   A beam and rotator might be possible, they may be challenged by the
set-up both with the hardware and software (if it is computer
tracking), and alignment.

   Myself, I found the previous discussion very helpful, and here I was
worried when I lost a bird within 2 degrees of the horizon (8 element
quad on 2M, helix on 70 cm, but manual rotator control and fixed
elevation).

   So I appreciate your experience, if you were in their position what
would you if you didn't have the time (summer is short), and you were
going to do this on a reasonable budget without it being too complex.
This new amateur does not have a technical background, they're a city
administrator in Cambridge Bay, NU.

   Whatever I can get into Yellowknife I should be able to get onto a
company aircraft to Cambridge Bay.  I'll be going over radio options
too, from time to time they pass through Yellowknife and we can get
some time for training.  Last month their job took them to Colorado and
then Alaska, but they didn't have their call sign yet, it might help
and be encouraging if on a future trip they could meet up with a local
club and experienced operators.

   Ron VE8RT

On Sat, 11 May 2019 08:19:57 -0500
Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> And if he is only needing to work Birds close to the horizon, I would 
> not even bother with the elevation rotor. or even tilt the beam up any.
> 
>  From what it sounds like the beam is not going to be very gigh at all, 
> so just from  ground reflections the main lobe will already be elevated.
> 
> so shoot for the horizion with any beam you can muster.
> 
> Maybe make up a pair of the "Cheap Yagis"
> 
> My wonder is without internet, how is he going to keep up with the ever 
> changing Keps?
> 
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 5/11/2019 12:34 AM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > As was stated multiple times in a very recent thread - omnis for sat work
> > are a poor compromise!!    Even a small beam at a 15-degree angle will
> > generally blow most omnis off the roof! Even better would be a pair of
> > beams (one for uplink, one for downlink) on an azimuth/elevation rotor!
> > But handheld can work almost as good!!
> >
> > 7   3
> > Jeff Moore   ---   KE7ACY
> > CN94
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 10:08 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>     We have a newly licenced amateur in DP79.  Because they fell a few
> >> points of getting their Basic with Honours they do not have HF
> >> privileges, their only way to communicate with the outside world is via
> >> satellite.  Anticipating this possible outcome, that they may not get
> >> access to the HF bands, I sent them a hard copy, (no home internet, and
> >> its slow and expensive there if you do have it), of the current copy of
> >> "Getting Started with Amateur Satellites".  As we're heading into the
> >> time of year to do any outside work, the most pressing question is what
> >> is the best compromise antenna for a base station.   Keeping in mind
> >> their location, in order to work anyone they'll have to get into the
> >> satellites while the satellite is close to their horizon, otherwise the
> >> satellite footprint will not cover areas with any satellite operators.
> >>
> >>     Ron VE8RT in DP22
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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