[amsat-bb] suitable omni antenna for FM sats?

[Joe]

I just do not want him to looose interest.

If all I had was like an eggbeater for the Birds i'd try for a few weeks 
then quit out of frustration.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
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On 5/11/2019 8:46 AM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> Thanks for the comments,
>
>     not without internet entirely, it is available in town but not at
> home.  So keps could be updated.
>
>     A beam and rotator might be possible, they may be challenged by the
> set-up both with the hardware and software (if it is computer
> tracking), and alignment.
>
>     Myself, I found the previous discussion very helpful, and here I was
> worried when I lost a bird within 2 degrees of the horizon (8 element
> quad on 2M, helix on 70 cm, but manual rotator control and fixed
> elevation).
>
>     So I appreciate your experience, if you were in their position what
> would you if you didn't have the time (summer is short), and you were
> going to do this on a reasonable budget without it being too complex.
> This new amateur does not have a technical background, they're a city
> administrator in Cambridge Bay, NU.
>
>     Whatever I can get into Yellowknife I should be able to get onto a
> company aircraft to Cambridge Bay.  I'll be going over radio options
> too, from time to time they pass through Yellowknife and we can get
> some time for training.  Last month their job took them to Colorado and
> then Alaska, but they didn't have their call sign yet, it might help
> and be encouraging if on a future trip they could meet up with a local
> club and experienced operators.
>
>     Ron VE8RT
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019 08:19:57 -0500
> Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> And if he is only needing to work Birds close to the horizon, I would
>> not even bother with the elevation rotor. or even tilt the beam up any.
>>
>>   From what it sounds like the beam is not going to be very gigh at all,
>> so just from  ground reflections the main lobe will already be elevated.
>>
>> so shoot for the horizion with any beam you can muster.
>>
>> Maybe make up a pair of the "Cheap Yagis"
>>
>> My wonder is without internet, how is he going to keep up with the ever
>> changing Keps?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 5/11/2019 12:34 AM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> As was stated multiple times in a very recent thread - omnis for sat work
>>> are a poor compromise!!    Even a small beam at a 15-degree angle will
>>> generally blow most omnis off the roof! Even better would be a pair of
>>> beams (one for uplink, one for downlink) on an azimuth/elevation rotor!
>>> But handheld can work almost as good!!
>>>
>>> 7   3
>>> Jeff Moore   ---   KE7ACY
>>> CN94
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 10:08 PM Ron VE8RT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>      We have a newly licenced amateur in DP79.  Because they fell a few
>>>> points of getting their Basic with Honours they do not have HF
>>>> privileges, their only way to communicate with the outside world is via
>>>> satellite.  Anticipating this possible outcome, that they may not get
>>>> access to the HF bands, I sent them a hard copy, (no home internet, and
>>>> its slow and expensive there if you do have it), of the current copy of
>>>> "Getting Started with Amateur Satellites".  As we're heading into the
>>>> time of year to do any outside work, the most pressing question is what
>>>> is the best compromise antenna for a base station.   Keeping in mind
>>>> their location, in order to work anyone they'll have to get into the
>>>> satellites while the satellite is close to their horizon, otherwise the
>>>> satellite footprint will not cover areas with any satellite operators.
>>>>
>>>>      Ron VE8RT in DP22
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt at yknwt.ca>
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