[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Jeff Moore]

You don't cover up unauthorized spending and you don't spend money you
aren't cleared to spend!   Let the parties involved explain this thoroughly
or have an independent  3rd party do so!  Either way, we are all due the
facts, not conjecture, and character support statements!   LET THE FACTS
SPEAK TO THE SITUATION NOT OPINIONS!!

7  3
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY


On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 3:51 PM Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> I did read and do not believe what they are accusing the board of. I feel
> I know that board members well enough to put my support behind them. I have
> never met anyone involved with AMSAT that wanted to hurt the organization
> in any way. To say they misspent the money I feel is wrong. They did so to
> protect the organization. Sadly lawyers are not cheap and the money had to
> be spent. The accusations is what will tear us at the seams…
>
> chad
>
>
>
> Chad Phillips
> KG0MW
> Amsat Ambassador
> www.kg0mw.com
>
>
> > On Jul 12, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > What transparency and progress has been brought to the organization
> > from the members that you speak of?  Specifically?  It appears that
> > since they were voted in, everyone in the organization is now walking
> > on egg-shells. The BB is now plastered with emails asking which words
> > mean what feelings, name calling and chasing after the organization
> > using whatever legal means the wizards-of-smart can conjure up all in
> > the name of almighty, all-righeous, '''transparency'''. It all seems
> > rather insincere and unproductive to me.  People like this should do
> > the organization a favor, and leave, run their own competing
> > organization and take whatever people and dollars happen to follow
> > them.
> >
> > I would honestly like to return to the ARISSat-1 days, where it was
> > just full-speed-ahead engineering and not all this talk all about
> > 'saving AMSAT' and ORI garbage.  All this ORI promotion on the BB, is
> > absolute garbage.  No rational AMSAT member should be OK with that,
> > especially from an AMSAT BOD member.  ORI is a separate, competing
> > organization and their bylaws are..... telling.  If AMSATs bylaws were
> > ever amended to be anything like those, you can kiss your membership
> > goodbye, ref: https://openresearch.institute/organization-documents.
> > Their bylaws literally say "Membership shall consist of the Board of
> > Directors.".  Quite an Open organization, indeed!
> >
> > But I digress... The more of these kinds of people you vote in, the
> > more the organization is going to be hurt, guaranteed. Because not
> > only is nothing going to get done, obviously some people don't want to
> > work with them for whatever-reasons and THAT actually is important.
> > And, the reasons are important too.  Have you wondered why...?  I do!
> > As a small business owner, when I hear such-and-such doesn't want to
> > work with so-and-so, I immediately want to ask "What happened"?  From
> > what the email traffic looks like, it seems like you may have to worry
> > about legal action for everything you say or do around them or, maybe
> > there was some pre-election history that most of the people that voted
> > for them, didn't know about.  I have no clue, but this all does make
> > me wonder.
> >
> > Either way, it seems like the state of things right now is Much Worst
> > than it was prior-to the last election, so... Not sure why anyone
> > would want more of this.  For me, the socio-political environment is
> > just as important as the engi-nerding portion..  At the very least,
> > BOD members need to be promoting the organization they are on the
> > board of and noone should have to worry about legal retaliation over
> > every little thing.
> >
> > Joseph Armbruster
> > KJ4JIO
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 3:58 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> If you care about the AMSAT organization continuing to help hams in
> space communications, please read and reread Patrick's and Michelle's
> explanations.  They layout exactly what happened. Now we learn that the
> expenditure is over 16k. That is 363 memberships, if this retired
> engineer's math is correct. This is money wasted to beat down two members
> who want transparency and progress. This was not right. Our money was
> wasted! I am anxious for the election.
> >>
> >> Again, I ask that members do not resign over this. That helps nobody
> and hurts out hobby, which has already taken a huge hit. Solve this with
> your voting privilege.
> >>
> >> 73 Brad KC9UQR
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