[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Kevin]

Since you are not a member Jeff you would not have received the email 
that we all did clearly stating that there was no unauthorized spending.

You can read it here...

https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/20200710_AMSAT_Leadership_Explains_Legal_Expenses.pdf

Kevin WA7FWF #19623

On 7/12/2020 4:12 PM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> You don't cover up unauthorized spending and you don't spend money you
> aren't cleared to spend!   Let the parties involved explain this thoroughly
> or have an independent  3rd party do so!  Either way, we are all due the
> facts, not conjecture, and character support statements!   LET THE FACTS
> SPEAK TO THE SITUATION NOT OPINIONS!!
>
> 7  3
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 3:51 PM Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I did read and do not believe what they are accusing the board of. I feel
>> I know that board members well enough to put my support behind them. I have
>> never met anyone involved with AMSAT that wanted to hurt the organization
>> in any way. To say they misspent the money I feel is wrong. They did so to
>> protect the organization. Sadly lawyers are not cheap and the money had to
>> be spent. The accusations is what will tear us at the seams…
>>
>> chad
>>
>>
>>
>> Chad Phillips
>> KG0MW
>> Amsat Ambassador
>> www.kg0mw.com
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>> Brad,
>>>
>>> What transparency and progress has been brought to the organization
>>> from the members that you speak of?  Specifically?  It appears that
>>> since they were voted in, everyone in the organization is now walking
>>> on egg-shells. The BB is now plastered with emails asking which words
>>> mean what feelings, name calling and chasing after the organization
>>> using whatever legal means the wizards-of-smart can conjure up all in
>>> the name of almighty, all-righeous, '''transparency'''. It all seems
>>> rather insincere and unproductive to me.  People like this should do
>>> the organization a favor, and leave, run their own competing
>>> organization and take whatever people and dollars happen to follow
>>> them.
>>>
>>> I would honestly like to return to the ARISSat-1 days, where it was
>>> just full-speed-ahead engineering and not all this talk all about
>>> 'saving AMSAT' and ORI garbage.  All this ORI promotion on the BB, is
>>> absolute garbage.  No rational AMSAT member should be OK with that,
>>> especially from an AMSAT BOD member.  ORI is a separate, competing
>>> organization and their bylaws are..... telling.  If AMSATs bylaws were
>>> ever amended to be anything like those, you can kiss your membership
>>> goodbye, ref: https://openresearch.institute/organization-documents.
>>> Their bylaws literally say "Membership shall consist of the Board of
>>> Directors.".  Quite an Open organization, indeed!
>>>
>>> But I digress... The more of these kinds of people you vote in, the
>>> more the organization is going to be hurt, guaranteed. Because not
>>> only is nothing going to get done, obviously some people don't want to
>>> work with them for whatever-reasons and THAT actually is important.
>>> And, the reasons are important too.  Have you wondered why...?  I do!
>>> As a small business owner, when I hear such-and-such doesn't want to
>>> work with so-and-so, I immediately want to ask "What happened"?  From
>>> what the email traffic looks like, it seems like you may have to worry
>>> about legal action for everything you say or do around them or, maybe
>>> there was some pre-election history that most of the people that voted
>>> for them, didn't know about.  I have no clue, but this all does make
>>> me wonder.
>>>
>>> Either way, it seems like the state of things right now is Much Worst
>>> than it was prior-to the last election, so... Not sure why anyone
>>> would want more of this.  For me, the socio-political environment is
>>> just as important as the engi-nerding portion..  At the very least,
>>> BOD members need to be promoting the organization they are on the
>>> board of and noone should have to worry about legal retaliation over
>>> every little thing.
>>>
>>> Joseph Armbruster
>>> KJ4JIO
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 3:58 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
>>> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>> If you care about the AMSAT organization continuing to help hams in
>> space communications, please read and reread Patrick's and Michelle's
>> explanations.  They layout exactly what happened. Now we learn that the
>> expenditure is over 16k. That is 363 memberships, if this retired
>> engineer's math is correct. This is money wasted to beat down two members
>> who want transparency and progress. This was not right. Our money was
>> wasted! I am anxious for the election.
>>>> Again, I ask that members do not resign over this. That helps nobody
>> and hurts out hobby, which has already taken a huge hit. Solve this with
>> your voting privilege.
>>>> 73 Brad KC9UQR
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