[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Chad KG0MW]

You are right about that!

C


From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab at yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, July 17, 2020 at 3:41 PM
To: Chad KG0MW <chad.kg0mw at gmail.com>
Cc: Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com>, "Paul F. Merrill" <marinesvcs at gmail.com>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read

Chad,
The use of RROO assumes that one understands civility & will act accordingly.  lol
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73 de W3AB/GEO
On Jul 17, 2020, at 13:26, Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>> wrote:

Roberts Rules of Order are a great guideline. But they do not teach you how to socially interact with one another or how to gain the trust of someone..


C


On 7/13/20, 8:26 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

    Paul,

    Roberts Rules are regarding parliamentary procedure. AMSAT's bylaws are at
    https://www.amsat.org/bylaws-of-the-radio-amateur-satellite-corporation/ .
    They do not specify parliamentary procedure. They are about
    responsibilities of a director, elections, etc. And if you have the choice,
    Roberts is an antique, good parliamentarians use Sturgis.

    Bruce

    On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 9:12 PM Paul F. Merrill via AMSAT-BB <
    amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

 I agree that this mailing list has strayed from its strongest contribution:
 satellite information, discussion, and mentoring.

 I come from, and have been on the BOD of, a professional organization for a
 number of years now.

 FWIW, I know too well that an organization often lawyers up to protect
 itself, and in our issues, our attorney was engaged to act solely on behalf
 of the Organization and not necessarily current management.

 This thread has turned in to a long, ugly diatribe filled with accusations,
 counter-accusations, and painfully-obvious shills.  I am a recently-renewed
 member who doesn’t have a dog in the fight, so I just want what’s best for
 AMSAT.

 Sadly, the stereotypes are starting to show - the members who contribute
 nothing but want to tear down those “In power,” the members who contribute
 nothing and don’t want anyone to make waves, and the few who actually do
 anything.  As a number of people have commented, working in a non-profit or
 unpaid leadership role is utterly thankless, which is lost on many people -
 especially those who have never labored in this sort of endeavor.

 My favorite story from our times of trouble is when our Parliamentarian
 said, “Roberts Rules are the last refuge of a scoundrel.  Grown men and
 women should be able to comport themselves reasonably...but then I’d be out
 of a job.”   I’m taking a little license with his exact words, but the
 sentiment, along with my experience, formed my native distrust of those who
 are right and everyone and everything before them is wrong.  So...there’s
 my bias.  I will examine that, and all the information I can before I
 vote.  I hope everyone else will take the time and expend the effort to
 vote as intelligently as they can.

 My overriding guidance to my Association is that we contribute to the group
 so that we all benefit from the group.  A strong organization should
 outlive us.

 Personally, I can’t wait to vote and hopefully put a fork in this.

 Paul / W7IV



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 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:27:24 -0700
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 Is there a bulletin board that discusses amateur radio satellites
 operations still?   Asking for a friend.  This is getting old.


 Daron N7HQR

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