[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[W3AB/GEO]

Chad,

The use of RROO assumes that one understands civility & will act accordingly.  lol

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On Jul 17, 2020, 13:26, at 13:26, Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>Roberts Rules of Order are a great guideline. But they do not teach you
>how to socially interact with one another or how to gain the trust of
>someone..
>
>
>C
>
>
>On 7/13/20, 8:26 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB"
><amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>    Paul,
>
>Roberts Rules are regarding parliamentary procedure. AMSAT's bylaws are
>at
>https://www.amsat.org/bylaws-of-the-radio-amateur-satellite-corporation/
>.
>    They do not specify parliamentary procedure. They are about
>responsibilities of a director, elections, etc. And if you have the
>choice,
>    Roberts is an antique, good parliamentarians use Sturgis.
>
>    Bruce
>
>    On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 9:12 PM Paul F. Merrill via AMSAT-BB <
>    amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> I agree that this mailing list has strayed from its strongest
>contribution:
>    > satellite information, discussion, and mentoring.
>    >
>> I come from, and have been on the BOD of, a professional organization
>for a
>    > number of years now.
>    >
>> FWIW, I know too well that an organization often lawyers up to
>protect
>> itself, and in our issues, our attorney was engaged to act solely on
>behalf
>    > of the Organization and not necessarily current management.
>    >
>> This thread has turned in to a long, ugly diatribe filled with
>accusations,
>> counter-accusations, and painfully-obvious shills.  I am a
>recently-renewed
>> member who doesn’t have a dog in the fight, so I just want what’s
>best for
>    > AMSAT.
>    >
>> Sadly, the stereotypes are starting to show - the members who
>contribute
>> nothing but want to tear down those “In power,” the members who
>contribute
>> nothing and don’t want anyone to make waves, and the few who actually
>do
>> anything.  As a number of people have commented, working in a
>non-profit or
>> unpaid leadership role is utterly thankless, which is lost on many
>people -
>    > especially those who have never labored in this sort of endeavor.
>    >
>> My favorite story from our times of trouble is when our
>Parliamentarian
>> said, “Roberts Rules are the last refuge of a scoundrel.  Grown men
>and
>> women should be able to comport themselves reasonably...but then I’d
>be out
>> of a job.”   I’m taking a little license with his exact words, but
>the
>> sentiment, along with my experience, formed my native distrust of
>those who
>> are right and everyone and everything before them is wrong. 
>So...there’s
>> my bias.  I will examine that, and all the information I can before I
>> vote.  I hope everyone else will take the time and expend the effort
>to
>    > vote as intelligently as they can.
>    >
>> My overriding guidance to my Association is that we contribute to the
>group
> > so that we all benefit from the group.  A strong organization should
>    > outlive us.
>    >
>   > Personally, I can’t wait to vote and hopefully put a fork in this.
>    >
>    > Paul / W7IV
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > ————————-
>    >
>    > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:27:24 -0700
>    > From: "Daron Wilson" <daron at wilson.org>
>    > To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>    > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
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>    > Is there a bulletin board that discusses amateur radio satellites
>    > operations still?   Asking for a friend.  This is getting old.
>    >
>    >
>    > Daron N7HQR
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