[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Bruce Perens]

Rich,

I think the problem was that they weren't really protecting AMSAT. They
were protecting the incumbent AMSAT leadership team. They were able to deal
with the issue of discrimination without counsel. You don't need to call
your lawyer to understand how to deal with the only woman engineer in a
leadership role in the whole organization. You need to recognize the
realities of the present, that we are not all white Christian men and that
you need to have some more consideration for people who aren't like you.

If they had devoted as much time to hearing and attempting to understand
the complaints of the opposition as they did to contracting lawyers, this
would not have happened. No lawyers. No big argument now.

    Thanks

    Bruce

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> I'm not sure what the issue is.  If the organization was concerned about a
> legal issue, they should reach out to their lawyers - it's their
> responsibility to protect AMSAT.  Lawyers cost money.  Trying to track
> which individual dollars were used doesn't sound like a productive effort.
>
> Rich, KD2CQ
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:15 PM GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > You know, maybe the treasurer will come up on the air and put an end to
> > all this conjecture.
> >
> > This is getting tiring.
> >
> > ---
> >  Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side
> > 73 de W3AB/GEO
> >
> >  http://www.w3ab.org
> >
> > You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".
> >
> >     On Friday, July 17, 2020, 04:13:55 PM PDT, Fernando Ramirez via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  So, there's a separate funding source for legal services? The point is
> > that
> > regardless of where it came from, AMSAT paid for it. And it was a
> wasteful
> > use of the organization's resources.
> >
> > KF7R
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 3:06 PM Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I like watermelons. The board even has stated that the legal funds DID
> > NOT
> > > come from memberships dues.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/17/20, 3:52 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Clint Bradford via
> > AMSAT-BB" <
> > > amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >    Why are you comparing the legal expenditures with membership fees?
> > >
> > >    Di you discover that membership fees were used in any manner for
> those
> > > expenses?
> > >
> > >    If not, then why don’t we compare that amount with, say, Apples or
> > > Watermelons?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    > On Jul 17, 2020, at 12:46 PM, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote:
> > >    >
> > >    >>  Now we learn that the expenditure is over 16k. That is 363
> > > memberships, if this retired engineer's math is correct.
> > >
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