[amsat-bb] Members Please Read

[Chad KG0MW]

Roberts Rules of Order are a great guideline. But they do not teach you how to socially interact with one another or how to gain the trust of someone..


C


On 7/13/20, 8:26 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

    Paul,

    Roberts Rules are regarding parliamentary procedure. AMSAT's bylaws are at
    https://www.amsat.org/bylaws-of-the-radio-amateur-satellite-corporation/ .
    They do not specify parliamentary procedure. They are about
    responsibilities of a director, elections, etc. And if you have the choice,
    Roberts is an antique, good parliamentarians use Sturgis.

    Bruce

    On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 9:12 PM Paul F. Merrill via AMSAT-BB <
    amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

    > I agree that this mailing list has strayed from its strongest contribution:
    > satellite information, discussion, and mentoring.
    >
    > I come from, and have been on the BOD of, a professional organization for a
    > number of years now.
    >
    > FWIW, I know too well that an organization often lawyers up to protect
    > itself, and in our issues, our attorney was engaged to act solely on behalf
    > of the Organization and not necessarily current management.
    >
    > This thread has turned in to a long, ugly diatribe filled with accusations,
    > counter-accusations, and painfully-obvious shills.  I am a recently-renewed
    > member who doesn’t have a dog in the fight, so I just want what’s best for
    > AMSAT.
    >
    > Sadly, the stereotypes are starting to show - the members who contribute
    > nothing but want to tear down those “In power,” the members who contribute
    > nothing and don’t want anyone to make waves, and the few who actually do
    > anything.  As a number of people have commented, working in a non-profit or
    > unpaid leadership role is utterly thankless, which is lost on many people -
    > especially those who have never labored in this sort of endeavor.
    >
    > My favorite story from our times of trouble is when our Parliamentarian
    > said, “Roberts Rules are the last refuge of a scoundrel.  Grown men and
    > women should be able to comport themselves reasonably...but then I’d be out
    > of a job.”   I’m taking a little license with his exact words, but the
    > sentiment, along with my experience, formed my native distrust of those who
    > are right and everyone and everything before them is wrong.  So...there’s
    > my bias.  I will examine that, and all the information I can before I
    > vote.  I hope everyone else will take the time and expend the effort to
    > vote as intelligently as they can.
    >
    > My overriding guidance to my Association is that we contribute to the group
    > so that we all benefit from the group.  A strong organization should
    > outlive us.
    >
    > Personally, I can’t wait to vote and hopefully put a fork in this.
    >
    > Paul / W7IV
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:27:24 -0700
    > From: "Daron Wilson" <daron at wilson.org>
    > To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
    > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
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    > Is there a bulletin board that discusses amateur radio satellites
    > operations still?   Asking for a friend.  This is getting old.
    >
    >
    > Daron N7HQR
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